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Little Horny Edition 2: Episode 3
Last thread: >>122419626

>ARG Patch
Added The Keeper (unlocked by donating 1000 coins to the greed machine) and new items:

Keeper now holds... a single fucking penny
Rib of Greed
Keeper's Store Key
Karma
Sticky Nickels
Deep Pockets

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that cum that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.

>How to unlock The Keeper?
Donate 1000 coins to the greed machine.
If you're not up for autistic level of grinding, use cheat engine;
1. First scan for the value you have in the greed machine.
2. If only one result, change it to 999.
3. If not, donate one coin and try again.
4. Repeat step 3 until it works.

>The Keeper has no sprite and dies instantly!
Remove players.xml from your resources folder.

>What are the seeds for unlocking The Lost?
This time, I found the seeds.
Isaac: 6028 LLMK - Must be on normal. Use the curse room to cut yourself and go left for the allah akbars.
Maggy: ALFA 0NTS - Bomb drop in caves 1, below the spawn. Again, cut yourself first.
Judass: AW0M SLC7 - Normal difficulty. Pretty good seed, should be easy to get to mommy.
Assazel: You can't use a seed.

Glowing Hourglass doesn't work in greed mode now anyway.
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I want to fuck Eve.
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welp
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So was old dude isaac just a ruse?
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>>122502257
She counts as a demon.
That's alright by me.
>steak captcha
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>>122502328
Yes. He's gone to the big bazinga in the sky.
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>>122502257
Who the fuck doesn't.
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So what's tech 2 + eve's mascara do?
Straight-up double damage?
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Has anyone noticed Mega Satan summons random Sins more often since the last few patches? It used to be that if you took a while between each wave then he would summon them but I'm getting them after a few seconds now.
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finally done with this shit


now I'm never EVER touching Greed mode again

thanks Edmund, for ruining a potentially fun mode with a fucking retarded grind machine that has absolutely 0 fun factor
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BUFF KEEPER AND FUCK YOUR ARG SHIT
REEEEEEEEEE-
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>>122502589
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>>122502768
Anon, you still need to do Lost and Keeper greed mode :^)

I finished both of them and I swore to never play that half-assed bullshit ever again
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>>122502697
It seemed like it.
>have a run with horrible damage
>get to mega Satan
>kill a hand
>SINS
>hand is back
>repeat three times
>suicide into Mega Brimstone
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So they go to the trouble of giving Lost D4, but then also give him the Mantle so fucking nobody will ever want to use it?

Why?
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>>122503186
Removes it from the pool, friend and mate.
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PLEASE ED JUST LET ME FINISH MY STEAK
AAAAAAAAAAA
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One, two, three, four
Warp through time, and through the door
Throw the card, vanquish greed
So I can kill this awful need

One, two, three, four
500 strong, my minds gone sore
Halfway there at inches a time
With countless pennies, nickels and dimes

One, two, three, four
Go on back, it's such a bore
The prize, I'm not even longing for.
One, two, three, four.
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>>122502964
>>122502589
Nevermind, I think it is just more damage
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>>122502768

I just installed that mod that puts a Greed Machine and a dollar into the starting room, unlocked Lost's Holy Mantle, and then uninstalled it because I don't even fucking want Keeper or any of his shitty unlocks. What's the point?
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>>122503316
Got a link to the mod?
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>>122503282

More like they didn't think shit through.

Removing one item you don't want to use from the pool is a drop in the bucket for Lost, for whom half the items in the game range from completely useless to actively suicidal.
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does the d100 reroll my key pieces?
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>>122503656

http://www.moddingofisaac.com/mod/889/greedmodedonationmaschinefarm

Grind no more, my friend.
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>>122503860
Yup.
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This game is a fucking wreck.
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>>122503860
Key Pieces and Polaroids can't be rerolled.
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>>122503310
10/10
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>>122504421
You're wrong. Both of them can be rerolled.
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>Chaos Card on Scolex
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Post those times you knew you won, /boig/.
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>>122505158
If they can, it's a bug and unintended. All the times I've used D4/D100 they didn't reroll.
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>load up daily today
>oh cool it's isaac, maybe I'll get pretty far
>pauses for a second
>[playername] daily score: 0
BRAVO
R
A
V
O
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>>122505435
congrats you saved 5 minutes of your time
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>>122505632
Oh, you meant, if you have already picked them up. Yeah you can't, my bad.
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>>122505509
with that filter you already lost :^)
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>>122505509
I still can't believe that happened.

filter is shit
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>>122505698
it doesn't work on him
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>>122506340

Because you didn't hit his tail
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IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE
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>>122506668
You were going through the basement too fast, maybe these kind of things will make you try to appreciate the game more slowly and thus, in its fullest
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>>122506668
you can kill them in literally 2 seconds with the ball
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>>122506832
living on the edge
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>>122506832
>risking contact damage with the lost
If it was sac dagger, sure, but not the ball of bandages
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>>122506621
if you hit his tail, it cuts the tail off, does 1/5 of his health bar, and makes him completely fucking invincible unless you have mom's contact or poison/flame tears
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>>122505698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV4icZ1srsU

you're a fucking idiot
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>>122506668
>Holy Mantle
>Halo of Flies
>Bandage Ball
You should be fine.
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>>122507556
lol okay I didn't know that happens, usually I never have a blank card so if I have a chaos card I never use it on him because I save it for hush/isaac/blue baby.

but sure, not knowing how a rare item doesn't work on a somewhat rare boss makes me a fucking idiot
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>>122507421

I don't know if I believe this but I was just thinking a minute ago about how after 2 updates I'm at the point in this game where I don't know what's a bug or what's intended and just a shitty or half-baked idea anymore. So fuck it, I wouldn't be surprised if you were telling the truth.
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>???
>Catacombs II
>Health has dwindled to almost nothing thanks to bad luck with D10
>Get to shop, sitting on 50 coins despite buying up every shop to this point thanks to first floor Humble Bundle and good luck with nickel and dime drops
>Box of Friends
>Have no familiars but, fuck it, D10 is killing me
>Have been sitting on a ? Card since floor one
>Finally find treasure room right by boss room
>Lil Gurd

I'm probably going to die, but at least I'll die surrounded by Lil Gurdies.
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>>122503310
beautiful
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>nicalis does gr8 job on rebirth
>shits the bed with afterbirth

how did this happen
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>>122508048
it just happened to me, I saved and Alt-F4'd several times to make sure it was true
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>>122506832
>Just don't take damage and the game will be easy!

I blow ass at this game but some of the small room layouts are fucked regardless of how well you can play.
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>>122507913
"commenting on shit I don't know about in a dismissive tone and then getting mad when someone calls me on it makes me a fucking idiot?"
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>>122508519
I have 0 motivation playing the game after this 'expansion'.
I cheated my way with the keeper to unlock items and I don't even know anymore.
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>do the lost for unlocks
>realize everything is still unlocked
>keep playing the lost

it's funny how one item made a character fun
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>>122506808
Don't know if you're just joking, but I've noticed that clocke-ish looking thing in the level transitions, does this really do anything?
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>>122508692
>dismissive tone
>getting mad

Uhhhhh

Only leave a reply in this thread if you have knowledge about every obscure interaction that goes on in this game so this pedantic autist doesn't get riled up.
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>>122508519
The reason they did so well with rebirth is probably because Edmund was doing quality control while watching over them.

The reason they shit the bed with afterbirth is probably because Edmund was too busy designing his ARG bullshit and planning how he was gonna get back at us for using datamined info to unlock the Lost and then bitching about his unplayibility until he finally decided to fucking buff him.
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>>122502257
WHAT A HORRIBLE NIGHT TO HAVE MY PERIOD
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>>122505435
>wasting a chaos card on something that's not hush, ultra greed, mega satan, ???, or the Lamb
you deserved it
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I just crashed on the daily because I shot twice in a row, 2 rooms before the lamb. I'm not even mad, because I was obliterating everything with the coolest shots I've ever had. Dr Festus to shoot bombs, these laser goggles which creates a ring of laser around your shots. Crickets head to fire off 4 mini bombs on hit, parasite to make each of those shoot out extra bombs and sad bombs to make each of those bombs shoot out lightning in all directions. I have no idea about the interactive tons, but a single attack caused 6 rounds of explosions which became more and more violent. I couldn't shoot more than once per room because there was nowhere to hide, but to my joy I finally found pyromaniac so I wanted to play around a bit. 2 attacks against monstro and it crashed.

I ain't even mad, though not getting to screens hot as well as getting a 0 score because of the crash hurt a bit
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>Try to scum my way through greed mode lost using alt f4
>get fucked by ultra greed
>relaunch game, as soon as I continue die instantly
I think I'll just go back to Cain runs.
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>>122510897

Alt+F4 never worked for me, I always had to alt+tab, then use task manager to kill it, otherwise it'd record my progress like if I exited normally.
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>>122510897
>>122511028
It got patched, along with the Glowing Hour Glass
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>>122511186
Earlier in the run it worked fine, but as soon as I got to ultra greed it just killed me.
I thought it was changed so that if you try to pause the game, then Alt + F4 it wouldn't let you close the game
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>>122509631
Uhhhhh

Don't talk about knowing what something does when you really don't so you don't rile correct autists up.
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>>122502090
source please
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>>122505509
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>>122511186
It didn't get patched yet, stop spreading misinformation you dumb fuck
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>>122511947
>yet
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Loki is a nigger...
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If i change the value in CE to 999 coins in greedmode will I get the other unlocks aswell?
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>>122512372
>playing greed mode
>devil round
>3 Lokii
>thats not a typo
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>>122512741
yes, the next coin you insert will unlock everything
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>>122512840
thanks anon, was afraid i was gonna miss out and lock them somehow.

tfw I bought blank card i basement 1 and didnt get 2 of diamonds until sheol
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>Install classic music mod
>Get nothing but burning basement 3 runs in a row with rooms full of those faggot flaming hoppers and narrow gaps between rocks to move in, no damage ups

Thanks
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>papa fly does 100% of your tear damage
holy fuck
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Can I still get the Glowing Hourglass in Greed mode?
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>>122512978
Old keeper sucks ass. /opinion
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>>122513439
yes, do it fast before Eggmund patches it out
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>>122512978
Holy fuck new keeper looks retarded.
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>>122509340
I'm fucking glad that they gave The Lost the Holy Mantle. Generally whenever you're randoming the lost you die early on and have to restart, but now you actually stand a fucking chance
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So apparently Godhead is in the Greed Mode Shop Pool normally, and you can get it without Chaos.
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High luck pecomes peculiar in chest.
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>the lost boss rush
>stain spawns, goes underground
>spawns DIRECTLY under me while I'm trying to deal with another boss

fuck off
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>>122513576
thanks, anon.
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>>122513686
Isn't Head of the Keeper a special item?
How the fuck did you manage to get 2 god-tier special items, anon?
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>>122513472
>Not liking cute old men
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>>122513472

>Wants a dried up husk instead of a badass old man

Figures a faggot like this would be using a weeb reaction image
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>>122513610

it's literally just a reused shopkeeper sprite but for some reason without a noose
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>>122514019
>wanting a greed character that ties into the game instead of some old man who doesn't fit into the game

Oh sure showed me with that poor reaction image selection lad. NOT
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>Use Steam Achievement Manager + Alt/F2 to cheat in the Keeper
>No graphics, no health, dies if I do anything

Is this intentional?
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>>122509487
It's a very rough estimation of how far you are vs how far you should be if your aiming for boss rush.

If your further to the right then it on the loading screen, your ahead of the rough schedule. Vice versa, your too slow.
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>>122514174
>Doesn't fit

Gate keeper of heaven nigga
also could be literally any old man in the bible
there are 100s.
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How farm angel statues?
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>>122514019
Don't bully softposters.
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>>122514282
You mean St. Peter? Yeah, could work.
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>>122514282
I think entire isaac lore is based around isaac's corruption and his downfall. I don't see how Moses goes into this. Please do explain if you do.

I just think greed is more fitting for entire character since he has stupid coin mechanics, but that doesn't mean the old man character wont be used somewhere else. Maybe he won't be worse than the keeper, or maybe he will. Only epic edmund's trolling knows.
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>>122514297
D6 and a lot of bombs.
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>>122514282
But it doesn't tie into the game.
Watch the fucking greed mode ending.
Go into ANY Secret Room or Shop.
Or how about the Greed Heads, known as Keepers?
Or how about the Head of the Keeper?
You're just a delusional fuckwit.
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>>122514174

>Implying Keeper is a proper Greed character

On second thought, you're right. For the shit chracter we got, I'm glad it's not the great old man and instead is just a recycled shopkeeper sprite. It wouldn't do the old man justice.
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So why don't familiars get stronger on kills/floor advancements
iean come on they are for the most part piddly-piss weak at least give them something
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>>122514626

let's just rename and retheme all of the other characters because they don't fit

I mean who the fuck is Lazarus? Eden? they don't make sense thematically at all, fuck 'em
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>>122514658
That doesn't mean old man wouldn't be even worse, hell I didnt think anyone could top lost, but with the keeper its proven to be possible.
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Epic Fetus is ridiculous with triple shot and quad shot. Just saved me in my Keeper run on greed mode.

Now I never need to play Greed mode again, thanks Edmund for forcing us to play something constantly so that we end up hating it.
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>>122514717
You're a fucking retard.
The keeper is a name that already exists in Isaac, and has existed since fucking vanilla.
Making the Keeper some old man for no fucking reason just because "lol he looks cool" is the stupidest shit I've ever heard.
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>>122512978
>>122513610
>>122514019
>>122514717
http://www.moddingofisaac.com/mod/888/oldmankeeper
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>>122514960
Doesn't change the fact that edmund loves ruses.

Making the keeper an unexpected old man sounds like something he would do.

Also keeper could refer to saint peter.
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>>122515030

>sign in with steam

no thanks
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>>122514265
>Is this intentional
Presumably.
People wouldn't forget to read the FAQ accidentally, would they?

>>122514698
I think they scale on your tear damage.
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>>122515072
But the game already has a fucking keeper in it
You're trying to find bullshit excuses for why he should be what you want
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>>122515157
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8pfv39upomr85u8/Old+Man+Keeper.rar
mediafire of the 1.0 version mod.
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>>122515157
Here, just uploaded it to MEGA in case people like you don't wanna sign in: https://mega.nz/#!GNtmXbpZ!U3tLraQCBbMp5b6N2eRjKc25Hha2UT3U1allHrZDQbU

>>122515237
MEGA here is a 1.1 version.
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>>122515216
I'm not saying that, I honestly want both designs used.

You could easily put in an old man from the bible like peter or noah or jonah and use the old man sprites.
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>>122515157

I bet you use a fake name when you order pizza
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>>122515214
>People wouldn't forget to read the FAQ accidentally, would they?
I-I didn't think

oops
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>>122515357

the place where i order from doesn't ask for my name

i'd rather just get the download link elsewhere
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Oh fuck off
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>>122515357
>Not telling them its Abdul-Ghaffar calling in and if they don't bring 10 pizzas for free within 20 minutes their pizzeria will explode
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nice room edmund
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>>122515604

>I bet he's never even seen the room with two Rag Men
>oh

yeah, fuck that room.
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>>122515604
What does Guppy's Paw even do for the Keeper?
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>>122515712
Just guessing but it probably takes a heart and gives you nothing.
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Death's Scythe, Dead Eye, and the sticky bomb shot has some silly fucking synergy

I'm sad that my software goofed and didn't record the hush fight, they got literally twice as big, blocked my entire fucking screen
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>>122502257
Me too.
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>>122515818
Inb4 someone asks for the source.
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>>122509340
It's not just the Mantle, it's also the fact he has Spectral Tears.
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>>122512978
>old keeper
>implying it was ever intended to be more than a red herring
I'm sure It will be used in the future.
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>>122516131

Imagine what a reasonably pleasant experience this expansion could have been if Edmund didn't have such a hateboner for dataminers.
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>>122515353
I wouldn't mind if they used him for an actual biblical character or something like that, but he's clearly meant to relate directly to Isaac, like Blue Baby and The Lost.
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>>122515357
>needing a name to order pizza
>not being friends with the owners of the local pizza shop to get a discount
>not having a local pizza shop
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>eden's blessing gives me the belt
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AHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>122516245
MAYBE NOBODY WOULD HAVE DATAMINED IF HE JUST LET THE COMMUNITY FIGURE IT OUT WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING INSTEAD OF BEING A SMUG PIECE OF SHIT ON TWITTER WITH TYRONE ABOUT IT, DATAMINER WOULDN'T HAVE WENT AHEAD AND DATAMINED AND SPOILED EVERYTHING
ALSO FUCK VINNY FOR INTERVIEWING HIM
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>>122515712
My guess would be that it takes away a coin heart and gives you blue flies. if it does anything at all that is, like >>122515773 said
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>>122516562
OH HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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>>122517112
well all that's left is massive mephisto now
i'll probably take a break from the lost to fuck around with the other characters some
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>>122516597
Yep, that's it. I've tried it just to see.
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>>122516569
Vinny didnt do anything, he didn't know, like most of us. Hell who would've thought edmund is such a manchild that would timegate content because he didn't get his fun with an arg?
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How does glass cannon interact with Keeper and his health?
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>>122517360
I'd assume it takes you down to 1 coin.
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>>122517351
I'm pretty sure he was referring to the fact that the steak meme originated from Vinny's Interview.
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>>122517360
It's bugged.
Using it brings you down to 0 health, then using it at 0 health puts you up to 1 health.
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>>122514878

At least he has a chance.

Keeper is already here and trash. Old Man has hope now because he turned out not to be Keeper.

And if he never comes out and was just some red herring, then that's still better than coming out and being somehow worse than Lost.
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So, with the next DLC do you think:

a) Edmund has had his fun and the next secret character will be something a lot more reasonable to unlock.

b) Edmund will have been so thrilled with how this all turned out that he will try to one up himself for the next character.
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>>122515157
It's Reddit, dude

If anyone jacked your account they'd find out who did it, take your account back for you, and fill up your inventory

They're white knight af
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>>122517680
I'm expecting another ARG, which I don't mind. I just want the secret character to be fun.
I also want his unlock conditions to not be FUCKING RETARDED.
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>>122517756
I'd be happy with this too.
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>>122509340
Yeah I've actually done a few runs as him now

shame it's hidden behind a ridiculous coinwall
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>>122517756
Keeper is literal garbage in all aspects

>Triple Shot fucks up your tear speed
>Shit unlocks
>Shittier health system than The fucking Lost
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>>122510370
What is Blank Card? I have no fucking idea!
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Well after grinding Greed Mode out for a few days I finally can't stand it anymore. I'm downloading that mod that puts a dollar and the greed machine in the first floor shop.
Congrats on finally fucking breaking me, Edmund.
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>>122516569
hey now, that's not nice

Vinny is a fan of Ed's work, like you wouldn't interview a guy if you had the platform to do it and you liked his stuff

fucking frogposters I swear
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>>122517756
An ARG would be fine as long as Smegmund makes an effort to have it accessible to everyone and not the three people who happen to live in his hometown.
>>
100% achievement is still unattainable so maybe Old Man is still coming as long as we chew slowly
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>>122515818
>>122515957
...
...
source?
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>>122517470
Edmund never even said the steak thing, did he? Wasn't that Tyrone?
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>>122518234
>All the bullshit with The Keeper was just to distract us for when the old man is added in a "bug patch."
MASTER RUSEMAN!
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>>122518470
Yeah, but it's easy to blame Edmund for all the problems with the game.
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>>122518470
>>122518617
Besides, the portion of the interview in question was this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/2lxx87/ed_on_the_losts_datamining_its_disheartening_ive/
Sorry if I triggered anyone. :^)
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>>122518470
He did say
>It's a hint at slowing the fuck down ;)
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>>122518234
>The Keeper gets his own unique greed donation machine
>You need to insert 1000 coins into it in order to unlock the old man
>It comes with other character unlocks, like Petrified Poop for Blue Baby, and Suicide King for Lazarus
>It also comes with an unlock that allows The Keeper to pick up health containers
>The patch gives The Keeper 3 bombs for greed mode, and all coin drops are sticky nickels
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>>122516569
OR MAYBE IF SOMEONE HADN'T PUT UP FUCKING STEAM ACHIEVEMENTS AND IN GAME SECRETS FOR THE SOOOOOOOOOPER SEKRIT CHARACTER NOBODY WOULD'VE KNOWN TO LOOK FOR IT
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>>122518731
this really fucking fries my eggs because we were like, 2 hours tops away from solving it when they came away with the answer

like 2 fucking hours was the difference between having a good Afterbirth expansion and having Edmund cry and shit his pants
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>>122517680
next DLC is just a level editor and mod support

it will cost real life money and you won't be able to use all the tiles until you donate 1000 coins to the special Tile Donation Machine
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is this the run?
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>>122519206
When you get Swallowed Penny or Piggy Bank, then yes, it is.
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>>122519046
also this >>122518804 because seriously of course people are going to start looking for it if it's right there in front of their fucking face
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>>122515957
>>122518345
Enjoy.
http://i.imgur.com/vWomHfF.png
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>>122519540
>het
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>>122519540
many thanks, anon
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>>122505509
>>
Well, Edmund did it.

He made a character harder and less fun than The Lost.
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>>122512978
>Isaac living to adulthood

pull the other one
>>
>Book of Revelations, a biblical book dedicated to the foretelling of God bringing upon the end times, gives +30% devil room chance
>The Book of Belial, one of the books from the Satanic Bible, a series of books which is the core foundation of satanism, gives +12.5%
>The actual Satanic Bible doesn't give any increased chance

WHAT IN THE EVERLOVING FUCK
WHO THE FUCKING HELL CAME UP WITH THIS SHIT
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>>122520184
Reverend McMuffin.
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>>122520181
>Isaac just wanting to dress up as an old man
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>>122519294
Swallowed Penny feels like playing Sonic with one ring.
>>
>One of the only good pills added by Afterbirth is Power Pill
>Have never gotten to use it because I never find more than one in a run
>Have seen retro vision more times than I care to remember

Why did pills get kill
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>>122520389
>Isaac just wanted to dress up as his father.
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>>122520624
Lilith is isaac's interpretation of his mother.

Lilith x Old Man when?

:^)
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>>122520539
Because there are challenges that add two pills, and one of them is negative.
I don't know what Edmund was thinking. I'm never completing that challenge.
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>>122519540

Who's the artist?

tfw 95% of fanart is trash
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>>122520995

I know. And why? How the fuck does someone honestly sit there and think "Yeah these challenges should each unlock 2 pills. Also they're all bad. That's fun and rewarding, right?
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>Mom's Box with Cancer
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It took a while, but I'm finally ready.
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>>122521017
I've actually enjoyed most of the Isaac fanart I've seen
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>>122521017
That would be me. I go by monorus.

Have some more trash.
https://imgur.com/a/nmW9a
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>install cheatengine
>suddenly all this unwanted shit in my browser

holy fuck this thing is the most virus smelling piece of shit ive installed in the last 10 years. Let me guess I'm going to get some shit keylogging and hacking my email in another week eh?
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>>122521859
Keep it up dude. You got talent
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>>122521859
>/boig/ artist that isn't bad with horrible fetishes
you're alright in my book anon
i mean, i can't get into your art because >dicks, but you're alright
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>>122521859
Good work. Do you do gay stuff at all? Specifically with Azazel?
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>>122521859
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>>122521859
Needs more butt-stuff
straight or gay, I don't care.
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Anyone happen to have a link to the afterbirth OST?
I lost the one posted yesterday cause on mobile.

Please and thank you
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>>122521697
good luck senpai
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>>122522357
why anon, it's only 4 dollars on steam

are you telling me 4 dollars isn't a great deal for some steak sauce?
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>>122522163
>>122522186
>>122522238
Thanks. Not really into gay stuff.
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>>122521859
>Monorus
Take this offering.
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>>122521859

Wow, never expected to run into you. Been following your tumblr for a few months now, keep up the good shit mate.
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>>122522569
Understandable. Most people aren't gay.
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>>122522569
Do you have a blog or anything where you post all of your art? Thanks for making straight art by the way.
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>>122522378
Well fuck
I forgot the battery
rip
>>
>Having a pretty good Lost run
>Mediocre shops aside from Mom's Box while I already had Cancer
>Item rooms ranging from mediocre to useless, even though I've had More Options since floor 1
>Only thing I could use is more damage
>Finally get a Devil Room
>Only item is Razor Blade

Guess if I got something nice I'd be having too much fun.
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>>122522879

m8 if you're going to exploit the game why not just get a mod that trivializes the grind or use cheat engine? Nobody wants to grind out fucking coins 1-3 at a time.
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>>122522992
Because I'm having fun, anon
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>>122522460
OST doesn't come with afterbirth, anon, as far as i know
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>>122522992
B-But that's cheating.
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>>122523073

Okay. Exploit away, then.

I wouldn't want to take that away from you. I'm not Edmund.
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>>122522879
shoulda grabbed the habit
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>>122523073
>>122523325
You're gonna regret that choice.
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place your bets on how fast the donation machine jams
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>>122522805
>thanking someone for making straight art
80% of art is straight, dude
all i want is girls kissing girls is that so much to ask for
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>>122523073
>fun
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY?
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>>122523292

It did if you already had the Rebirth OST.

>>122523440
7 coins
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>>122522608
Thanks, I guess.

>>122522710
Thanks.

>>122522805
All of it? Not really. Every site has some sort of restriction that prevents me from posting certain things. My tumblr has most of my art: http://monor.us/
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>>122523440
12 coins
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>>122523440
13 coins
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>>122523440
6 coins
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>>122523523
>>122523567
>>122523605

i managed to get 30 in

okay haul i guess
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>>122523440
14 coins
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>>122523440
3 coins
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>>122523546

Tumblr doesn't seem to take offense when people make posts containing imgur links to disallowed content, you could maybe do that? I know of a few other artists who take advantage of that particular loophole.
>>
Daily reminder that edmund keked you out of 6.66 dollars.
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>>122524390

no he didn't

i didn't buy it
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>>122505509
Never have I felt so powerful.
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fuck
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what the fuck is this
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>>122524991
NO BALLS
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>>122524991

oh it doesn't override it

i'm just retarded
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Hey, does killing U.Greed net you an Eden token every time? Because I Have 200 Eden tokens all of the sudden.
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don't do this to me
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>>122525629
NO BALLLLLLS
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>>122525554
Same here senpai.
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>>122525717
Well that's a cool side effect. Now after spending all that time unlocking The Keeper, I can play as a fun character.
>>
>Decide to finally unlock the lost
>Seeds in the OP made everything simple
>Bathing in satan's brimstone np
>Die
>No lost

fuck it I'll just go download a save
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>>122525848

can't use seeds on azazel retard
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>>122525848
Are you using seeds for Azazel's Part?
Because you can't unlock The Lost if you are.
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>>122525981
I am aware of that. I read the op as I said.
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>>122525704

i am unsure if this is the correct choice
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>>122526483
>Throwing away the run to prove some anonymous person on the internet fuck all

good job
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>>122526483

OH HOLY SHIT
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>>122526583
I believe in him. You go anon!
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I'm ready to make some deals with the devil.
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i firmly believe this was the right decision

not pictured: tough love
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>>122526583
>he doesn't do it for the memes
Calling the police as we speak.
>>
they could at least give proper mod tools so the community could do their work for them and actually create new content instead of reskinned everything and coop babies

but thats saved for expansion 2: because the first one had too much content
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>>122527054
>black hearts + imp
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>>122527219
>they could at least give proper mod tools
They will for the low low price of $11 an an ARG :^)
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>marked + soy milk

WELP
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>>122527558
>Toxic Shock
You'll be fine.
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>>122527313
More like Infested Baby one floor, Krampus fight on the next. Brimstone could be patched out and I'd never notice.
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>>122527692
>Upon entering a room, all enemies are poisoned, dealing double Isaac's tear damage
>dealing double Isaac's tear damage
>soy milk
>dealing double Isaac's tear damage
>damage down, tears way up ;)
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>>122527692

you were right but for the wrong reasons

i still did insane damage with my tears for some reason
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>>122527881
Which should still be enough to take them down to 2/3 HP.
>>
Is Afterbirth worth buying
>>
>>122527967
>piercing shots
>Cricket's Body
because each shot went through the enemy and split and each split went through the enemy and split and each split went through...
>>
AND THE FINAL LOADOUT

not pictured are the bombs splitting 4 diferent tiems
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>>122528081
Hold off for now.
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>>122528136

oops lol
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Slow but steady my friends.
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>>122505509
>>
>cheat engined my way to 999 coins
Fuck you Edmund I'll eat my steak however the fuck I want

Keeper is alright slightly less shitty than the lost was in rebirth but still pretty bad.
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HEY LET'S GET MEGA STAN TOO

to the guy who told me to pick up missingno: thanks bb i'll love you 5ever
>>
>>122528245
What's wrong with it? Bugs?
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>>122528540
Pretty much, yeah. It's also in the middle of being heavily re-balanced too.
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>>122528081
Meh. Underwhelming. 6/10
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>>122528459
Also I just realized how much of a cunt getting to mega satan is going to be with him since he can't get hit at all to get devil deals. Oh well.
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>>122528343
just cheat engine you retard
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>>122528469
>edens gift on the last floor
damn that run just keeps giving
>>
why can't we have any more fun OP characters like azazel? why did keeper have to be yet another character where 60% of the item pool is totally useless for him
>>
>>122525848
You have to do all the deaths sequentially there's some file you can look at when doing the unlocks to check your progress but I forget what it is. Just google it. It's a bitch and the satan death is glitchy as hell.
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>>122528795
No, the Keeper is a gimmick character in which any advantage to the gimmick has been thought ahead to and nerfed preemptively because fuck you
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First for the 5 Blank Rune super secret room is fucktardedly broken
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>>122528890
just wait, you'll unlock the keeper starting with swallowed penny in stillbirth
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>>122528795
Honestly the keeper would be a legitimate and fun character if health ups worked on him past two coins. That's all he needs to be a good character.
>>
QUICK

DOES REROLLING USING THE MACHINE IN GREED MODE REMOVE IT FROM THE POOL
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>>122529093
Uhh, uhh! I don't know!
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>>122529093
i believe so
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>>122528990
i'm trying but every single fucking run i get at least 2 hp up item and only activatables
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>>122519174
And you have to go and retile Nicalis' office floor to find a piece of paper with a close-up still of an obscure movie and find a small plush of Dingle at the filming site. You then have to flush the plushie in Edmund's hidden toilet, and then the secret character, Clyde, will be able to be unlocked by making the Tile Donation Machine explode twice.

Clyde is blindfolded, can never pick up coins, bombs, or keys, and can only kill enemies by way of an infinite-charge Bean
>>
>>122529078
HP ups should be luck ups for him, resulting in him getting more pennies.

Devil deals should cost money (20 cents per red heart)

If he had those 2 things going for him, he'd be a lot more fun to play and have some real strategy going for him other than "cross fingers and pray". As it stands right now he is literally the only character in the game that cannot take 2 heart deals/3 soul heart under any circumstance.
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>>122529351
He can take them if he has extra lives :^)
>>
Make a worse character than the Keeper
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>>122528773
Why are you calling me a retard?
>>
>Keeper dies if he picks up Abaddon

>>122529609
anon I'm not sure I -can- make a worse character
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>>122529609
The Keeper with one coin container.
>>
>>122528297
kek, noice
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>>122529750
So pre-mantle Lost with triple shot & no devil deals?
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>>122529627
because youre a STUPID!!! FUCKING!!! RETARD BIIIIIIIITCH!
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can someone explain the mechanics of the keeper to me?
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>>122529609

Keeper with permanent, non-rerollable regular R U A Wizard (not the double shot one) and one container.
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>>122529851
and no flight
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>>122529351
i really like the idea of money being his hp or some shit
instead of wooden nickel, you get a new item that consumes coins for hp. that way you can drop coins at will if you need to rather than relying on chance or charges
that or money IS his hp, with like -1 coin being a 1/2 heart of damage and -2 coins being a full heart of damage. yeah it'll get stupid but fuck it i want something fun
>>
>>122529896
Being worse than The Lost
>>
>>122529351
I disagree the money for devil deals is arguably worse than what he currently has. Some runs even getting 15 coins by floor 3/4 is a stretch. Maybe 10 coins I can see. But having health ups work on him would also mean a large portion of the item pool is actually useful for him again
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>>122529858
2rude4me senpai
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>>122529896

As slow as maggy with worse luck than lazarus. Has two heart containers, and can never, ever have any more than that. When you enter a room, all heart-type consumables turn into blue flies, and you can never pick them up. Permanent triple shot. coins heal him. all of his unlocks are awful.
>>
>>122530092
Deep pockets are ok.
>>
please do not bully Greed he had a hard life
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>>122529609
Caasi
Dies after 1 hit from anything, can't pick up red/soul/spirit hearts
Hearts are automatically rerolled into super troll bombs
Permanent R U A wizard and marked.
2 damage per tear, 0.7 damage multiplier, 15 tear delay
Starts with Suicide King, IPECAC, My Reflection and Tiny Plant. Also his shot speed is halved.
Butter bean is put into every pool 15 times will not be removed from said pools under any circumstances

All of his unlocks are co-op babies with no effect, except for his hush unlock. He unlocks "Kill Hearts" which are visually similar to red or soul hearts but hurt you for 2 hearts of damage when picked up.

To unlock him, you have to literally buy a $100 steak, deliver it to edmund, give him a handjob with it and then slowly eat the cumsteak in front of him.

r8 my original character
>>
Wasn't there supposed to be a chain lightning type item?
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>>122530258
Starter Deck is better.
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>>122530380
>tiny plant
10/10 character, would play/fellate
>>
>>122530258

I guess, but it's just a rehashed combination of two items without the drawback/benefit of eliminating the other consumable. His trinkets are extremely situational at best and two of his own unlocks don't help you at all.

At least starting with wooden nickel makes him marginally less awful.
>>
tried to record it but it came out slow and it ends prematurely
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>>122529609

Character with Soy Milk+Tiny Planet that will die if he takes damage items.

Now for an interesting character.

One that starts with one heart, IV Bad, Bloody Lust and Little Chad. I think that'd be fun.
>>
I don't know how it goes around here but do you guys just hold R until you get a good item?
>>
>>122530258
Rib of Greed is cool. Nothing worse than getting a Greed fight followed by a Super Greed fight, when all you need is a shop to spend money.
>>
>>122531013

only if i'm keeper

i don't even do that with the lost anymore
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>>122530891
>fucking pissing bombs everywhere with laser rings around them
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>>122531013
I R if Curse of the Blind or Cellar with a shit first item.
>>
>>122531013
Nah. Plenty of good runs start out slow
>>
>>122531013
I usually don't but I do sometimes after I get pissed off from previous runs that had a lot of bullshit going on in them.
>>
>>122531241
boring as fuck tho. fighting rag man with no useful upgrades is always just tedious
>>
Ive just realised that quad shot stacks with itself now, and so does triple shot but not 20/20

Since they interact additively, 4+4+3+3+2=16-shot at once

Someone give me something fun to test this out with with the custom challenge editor
>>
>>122531365
Don't forget to do it with the keeper for another 3
>>
so i got like 4 buddies but no special transformation

did they get rid of it?

or did they just make it so lost couldnt get it since it was so easy to get all the transformations w/ the d4
>>
>>122531365
Brimstone's charge time?
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>>122531183

i have a new appreciation for missingno now

i will always take it when i see it from now on, regardless of whether or not the runs will ever be that good
>>
>>122531013
I'll hold R til I get a decent item. I'm not playing a run with Telepathy for Dummies.
>>
i'm doing the glass cannon challenge
should i go to hush y/n
>>
>>122531465
The charge time doesnt stack, it charges up like you only had 1 quad shot and nothing else

>>122531434
I think Loki's Horns + Tumor transformation gives another 3 + 2 respectively but Im only looking at the traditional multiple-shot items right now
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>>122530894

Well.....I thought it was cool...
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>>122531013
Typically something satisfactory at the very least.
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>>122531365
I thought 20/20 spawned another tear next to any you generated. Shouldn't it be (4+4+3+3)2 ?
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anybody know the Heimlich? I might need someone standing by if I choke from chewing too fast.
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>>122531340
Yeah I won't deny that.
I can definitely understand why some people just prefer to hold R for something good.
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>>122530894
How does it fit in with the game, though?
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>you are now punished if you unlock things

I would like to return this steak, it is overdone.
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>>122531625
It's not actually multiplicative when interacting stuff like quad shot, it's only an additional 2 tears without a further tear rate penalty

for example, single quad shot + triple shot + 20/20 gives only 9 tears instead of your expected 14
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>>122531673

Is there a biblical character that got stronger through pain? That would be it.
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>>122531804

Hate to burst your bubble, but there's already a character that gets stronger based on taking pain.
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>>122531920

But Samson is SHIT.
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>>122532031

In vanilla, maybe.
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>>122532031
he's pretty alright if you get IV Bag
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>>122531459
It's only with certain babies.
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Conjoined_%28Transformation%29
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Apply a fix to a shit item boys.

>Tiny planet
>4 tears now orbit you (like ludo), you can no longer shoot tears. they orbit around the same rate that the longest fly does but a little faster.
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>almost done with all the post-its
>will soon be able to go back to Normal mode
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>>122532096
fuck this game! sage
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What does Head of the Keeper do with Azazel? Does it cancel out his Brimstone?
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>>122532171

>Yum Heart
>Restores 1 more heart every other floor

Would mean on Basement 1 is gives 1 heart, but on Caves 2 and so on.
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>>122532343
Probably does nothing at all.
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>>122532343

Head of the keeper will never do anything if you don't have regular tears. Knife, bomb, brimstone, epic fetus won't spawn money with it.
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>>122532171
Wow man you managed to make it even worse, grats.
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>first time fighting The Hush

>I have CURSED EYE
>took one hit when it was at 10% hp

>8 hearts left
>2 of hearts
welp
time to get fucking good
>>
how to make keeper bearable: find minimush as soon as possible
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>>122531920
The worst part is that he doesn't even make sense. Samson's story was that he was powerful until his hair was cut. It would actually be better if his passive was like the new crown item, that gives you higher attack until you take damage, as long as you're at full health.
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>>122529609
Purist character.
Same stats as Isaac but can't pick up items, trinkets, or consumables.
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>>122532678
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>>122532171

The poop can now spawn golden and rainbow shits.
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>>122532769
i mean odd mush w/e he still sucks
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>>122532171
>Brimstone
>halve damage, double charging wait time
t. Ed
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>>122532769
Why Mini Mush?
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enjoying my steak

ONE

BITE

AT

A

TIME
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>>122532171
>Shoop Da Whoop
>Charges similar to Isaac's Tears, slower
>Attack power increased to 5-bar strength Brimstone

>Every Single Fucking Item that requires Isaac to get hit in return for some pointless tiny damage
>Instead changed to close proximity
>For example, The Virus now poisons enemies that are just about to touch you
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>>122532859
Doesn't the poop synergise with midas touch now to make gold poops?
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I'm playing as the lost, and I'm stuck with a choice.

Should I take Glass Cannon, or stay with my current Pinking Shears?
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>>122533615
Go big or go home.
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>>122533615
Glass cannon I think. Although pinking shears are nice if you get gnawed leaf or something
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>>122533615
do you have gnawed leaf? if not, go for the glass cannon
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>>122533753
>>122533758
>>122533774
Glass Cannon it is, then
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>>122533615
plinking shears for fast boss killing
glass cannon is nice but plinking tears shit apart and lets you focus on defense
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>tfw this is all the steak we're getting

How do I accept this terrible fate.
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>sacred hear + scythes

thank you rng, for making this keep run bearable

btw fuck edmund and fuck this no content xp pack
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>>122532850
Did it

Fun boss
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Holy fuck

Literally every fucking devil/angel room has just been fucking hearts (read: flies) this whole greed run

Fuck off Edmund
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Second try. I've got Trickle Charge and Chaos Card in the corner, so all I need is Glowing Hourglass to max out my Greed Machine.
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guys

maybe

the rest of the steak

is hidden behind getting the donation machine to 1000 TWICE

arg!!!
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>>122534997

I don't even want it there once. Keeper sounds like anti-fun.
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>>122505509

Wiz is pretty fun with lasers and rubber cement
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>>122535293
>fun
Whoops, that wasn't meant to be there. Just stay calm and wait til the next patch where Ed will nerf it out so you can enjoy your steak properly
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What a face
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>>122502292

Holy shit, that reminds me of my first Greed Mode Cain Run.

What's the seed? Two people coming across the same seed at the same time - what are the odds?
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>>122535293

Can you bring up the items you have here? The next patch will address a few of them.
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>>122535273
maybe keeper gets +1 coin per 1000 greed coins

still wouldnt be worth using cause lol 3 bullets per minute
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WHAT IF

>Keeper got 1 more health every 25 coins?
>Keeper started with $$$=Power so having money like his goddamn name implies has benefiet
>Angel Rooms don't suck absolute shit so you have a decent alternative since devil rooms kill the fucker with anything decent
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>>122536001
He'd still have unbearably shit fire rate.
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>>122536079

That's a negative of triple shot on anyone so I don't knock him for it.
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>Double Chaos Card
>9 Volt
>AAA Battery
>Glowing Hourglass
I'm prepared, there's no possible way I can fuck this up.
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>>122535815
>>122535436

kek

This steak is too tasty, please return it to the kitchen
>>
THANK YOU BASED BUMBO
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>>122536872
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I'm just gonna go with my gut feeling that the Keeper will get some sort of sensible buff at some point, and not play the game. I'd rather wait for last patches and items and 100% saves to download. Done with this treadmill shit when I just wanna have fun shooting.

Honestly I say this primarily because my attempt to transfer my old save failed and left me with a clean wipe to start from. I just don't have it in me to do it all again with holiday hours coming.
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>>122537038
Don't wait for patches, use the Swallowed Coin exploit while you can. He's literally invincible with it, and it's really easy to get.
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>>122533514
Yeah it does, found this out playing as ??? the other day. I think it's like a 20% chance per poop to be gold and it also works with the relax pill.
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Well, shit. I'm doing so much damage I don't even need the Chaos Cards.
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>>122537136
That's the thing. I have to unlock him, and the Lost, and EVERYTHING again. I don't want to. I don't got it in me or the time, I just want a 100% save file now to cruise and play around with at my infrequent leisure, but nobody has one

Plus I figure even with one the game will be broken a few more times since they have one more character to add or somesuch
>>
Just beat sheol and dark chest with Shitter, now i gotta cheese a run to go for mega satan, and i dont want to do Boss Rush since >sticky Coins

Why does edmund hate fun?
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>>122503186

If you carry it to the final boss, you can wait until you get hit and then reroll your twenty health-ups into a last minute superweapon.
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Bout to go get killed by Satan. Wish me luck.
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>>122510897

Extra lives are used when you reload the game now, assuming you have a source of extra lives. For Guppy's collar, this means you have to keep relaunching until you survive the reload.
>>
How the fuck do I get past Blue Bomber?

>end up fighting Mr. Fred at Womb 1, burning through my Algiz Rune

>get several bullshit rooms in a row at Sheol and die
>>
Why is Speed so hard?
>>
>>122538987
Enjoying steak takes technique, anon!
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how about an item that reduces your tear delay by a very small amount every time you buy an item from the shop
>>
Yaaaaaay. Now I can properly enjoy my steak, right?
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Gimpy's a good item.
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>>122538987
Save and use bombs on bosses is my only advice. You start with Mr. Mega bombs. I just did it myself and thought I was screwed and found my bombs did way more damage than I did myself.
>>
Is there a way to "influence" the item pool, so to speak? I constantly get Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinners in my first floors, either as a Treasure Room or a Boss Pool item. I assume by not grabbing them whenever I see them, it lowers their chances of spawning?
>>
>watching NL's most recent video
>he got Dr Fetus
>and tons of damage
>and mr. mega
What the fuck.

>>122540641
Nope. The only thing that changes is that if you get a special item, it decreases the chances of special items spawning that run.
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I want to get off this wild ride ;_;
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I did it boig! Also managed to clear bossrush with the lost on this run.
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If you kill Ultra Greed quick enough with the Chaos Card he doesn't bleed.
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>>122534479
>he plays Normal mode
Pussy ass bitch
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>>122540940
>no D6 on the pedestals
You fucked up m8
You could've easily quadrupled your breakfasting time by getting it.
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>>122541636
Are you telling me that I wasted 1 hour and 30 minutes in nothing?
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>>122542143
Nah, if you can manage to put the Blank Card on the main room by getting a spacebar item there, typically through using Judgement, you can get a D6, and whenever you have a shitton of item pedestals, pop it and grab what you see.
It makes shit a lot easier and faster.
Perthro runes do the same thing.
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So close I can taste it.
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>>122542371
Wouldn't that make all of the pedestal items breakfast?
I have one dice there that could reroll the items, but I don't know...
>>
What is the point of character appearance when they lose it after 3-4 items most of the time?
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>>122542469
I mean when you're originally doing it, anon.
All you need to do is reroll everything when there's too many pedestals to handle to make getting to the item much faster. Also helps you to stay the FUCK away from Chaos.

>>122542435
Congrats, you just made the ex-worst character in the game fun.
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>>122542616
Well, I want to give up now...
Stupid greed machine.
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>>122543153
Cheat engine, anon.
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>>122527746
i've seen it thrice since afterbirth and only on runs that were already pretty much won.
I just want basement 1 curse room to not contain the fucking sentry tower demon but a portal to a floor 1 brimstone devil deal.
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>>122543180
But I want my achievements
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>>122543303
You still get the achievements.
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>>122542435

Stop right there, Anon. That's the last unlock that's worth it. You can go home. The Lost is actually kind of fun now. Take your victory and walk away. Please, Anon.
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>>122542435
This is a photoshop, right? Ed wouldn't make the Lost actually tolerable, would he?

what's the tierlist for the characters now
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I've never been more in love with Dry Baby than now
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>>122543393
Almost there. The fireworks are a nice touch.
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>>122540225
son

you've got a WAY to fall
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>>122543507
I feel so accomplished.
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>>122543303
doesn't disable achievements
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>>122543440
In terms of gameplay:
Isaac>Azazel>Judas>Cain>Eve>Samson>Lilith>The Lost>Blue Baby>Lazarus>Maggy>Keeper

In terms of fun:
Isaac>Eden>Judas=Cain>Eve>The Lost>Samson>Lilith>Blue Baby>Lazarus>Maggy>Dogshit>Keeper
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>>122543440
Isaac > Azazel > Everyone Else > The Lost > Lazarus > Keeper > Judas
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>>122543746
>gamplay
>Judas that high
>Blue Baby that low
>>
>>122543507

DON'T DO IT ANON
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>>122543746
>eve anywhere near top tier with the shitty damage multiplier that she has
>>
>>122543926
Whore of Babylon
Razor Blade
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Should I fight small blue fag, or mega stan?
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>>122543991
why both?
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>>122543981
She has to get down to 1 heart or all spirit hearts to get her damage up to speed with the rest of the cast.

>>122543991
hush lad
>>
>>122543991
Nothing is stopping you from doing both.
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>>122543991
Both
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>>122544061
Except Judas has one heart two. Besides, you should be trying to go all-spirit heart anyway.
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>>122543991
>normal mode
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>>122543832
>Judas
>Bad
>Being shit at the game
anon come on
>>
Do I have to beat Hush with all characters before I can progress to Cathedral/Sheol after beating the Hush?
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>>122544221
>implying I ever said he was bad
Face it, without guaranteed devil deals, he can't hold a candle to Whore or Paperclip. Hell, even the Lost is better than him.
>>
>>122544312
I like the books early damage and in Rebirth it was a viable item too keep on bad runs for that guaranteed devil deal. But it's good that they nerfed it because I was having fun playing judas in Rebirth.
>>
>>122544312
>1.35 damage multiplier at all times
>+2 damage with book of belial
I do miss guaranteed devil rooms, but oh fucking well.

They should make Satanic Bible into the new guaranteed devil room chance, since Book of Belial is actually a book found in the Satanic Bible.
>>
>>122503910

this shitty site isn't letting me download and i've logged in w steam + have a public profile. can someone share it elsewhere?
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>>122544269
No.
>>
>>122544989
there's a guide in the OP.
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>>122544312
That's some fine bait you've got there
>>
Since last update the fucking game just keeps crashing often on startup
bravo Eddmund
>>
Share your least favorite part of afterbirth and how you would change it.
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>>122546104
timegated content

release the whole fucking game, there's the fix
>>
Why are spiders the fucking absolute worst in this game still
that unpredictable fucking movement FUCKS MY ASS really hard each time when playing the lost god fucking damnit
>>
>>122546205
They just have inconsistent lock on range. They can lock and charge on you from pretty far away, just keep that in mind and they will be pretty easy to deal with.
>>
>>122546104
total lack of content

add content
>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCLA38NIQu0
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I tried looking first, but I couldn't find anything and I'm not sure how to go about it. What do I do to get the Glowing Hourglass reset thing in greed mode to work properly? Is there a certain start I need to have? I'd like to do this before my steak gets taken away.
>>
is there actually a mod out there allowing you to play super greed or some shit?
I dont see why Eggmund didnt just add in the possibility of transforming into super greed when picking up 3 money related items.
>>
>>122546419
that was the most fun fucking stream I've ever been around for

I had more fun watching that than actually playing Afterbirth

i wish he didn't suck at the game
>>
>>122546419
these vids are RETARDED
>>
>>122546419
relax
>>
Am I going crazy or are Tinted Rocks MUCH more common on hard mode than on normal mode?
>>
WHY THE FUCK
IS ADDICTED A NEUTRAL PILL EFFECT?
WHY AM I ABLE TO GET IT WITH FUCKING PHD
DID THEY TEST THIS FUCKING GAME AT ALL
SO FUCKING RETARDED
>>
>>122546735
Nah you're crazy. I barely see them on Hard or I can barely see at all because keep getting fucking Curse of Darkness.
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>playing azazel to get the hush kill
>first devil room had judas' shadow
>nah, want to keep my health, i would otherwise
>second room is an angel room
>walk up to it
>accidentally hit q while trying to adjust my fingers
>mfw
>>
Today, I found out that Marked can cause the Doctor's Remote to burst out of the bowels of shit-tier to become amazingly powerful. It starts shooting rockets automatically until you leave the room, and they do sooo much damage.

It's great.
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Is there an item causing me to not take damage from kamikaze in my list or did Ed make it not-shit?
>>
>>122548071
It's a bug, enjoy it while it lasts.
>>
so apparently if you open a blue spider red chest and then glowing hourglass out, your spiders seem to double
>>
>>122548148
Of course it is.

Oh well, this Eden run will be enjoyable at least
>>
>>122548071

It's a bug, apparently.

Might as well abuse the hell out of it while you can.
>>
8SYN
HP34
Bumbo 1st floor, nickels in each shopkeeper in the secret room, which you're guaranteed to get to since The Moon drops. Stopwatch/Sackhead choice in the 2nd floor shop.
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>>122548656
>Stopwatch/Sackhead choice
Holy fucking shit
That's such a hard god damn choice
Unless I needed Hush or boss Rush done, I'd do sackhead
Such a good fucking item if you're into long runs
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>>122548779
I went with Stopwatch since I'm the Lost. Easier choice.
>>
anyone got a seed for penny tears?
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>>122548656
Hot damn, just got better.
>>
>keeper has a noose in between cutscenes
>doesnt have it in-game
???
>>
>>122549232
>keeper is sitting in cutscenes
>is standing in-game
What does it mean?
>>
>>122549232
>???
no anon that's a different character
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>>122547719
>finally beat hush
>"finally, now to go to the che-"
>accidentally hit space
>i have the glowing hourglass
>mfw
>>
>>122544196
>wanting co-op babbies
>>
Does transforming into mom turn all drops into pills? I want to make sure it was that transformation that got rid of all my cards.
>>
>>122551062

No, that was little baggy.
>>
>>122551062
Little Baggy.
>>
>>122551141
>>122551157
Oh, I see. Thank you.
>>
>cheating in a childs' game
>>
>>122502090
I ran a simulation on how many successfull Greed Runs you need to unlock The Keeper on average (I assumed the player had unlimited coins for each run).
Turns out if you evenly use all characters except for The Keeper and The Lost and donate 81 coins each, you will need an average of 38 successfull runs (Assuming you donated 109 coins before The Keeper was added)
If you did not donate any coins before The Keeper was added, you will need an average of 47 runs.

If we assume that one successful Greed Run takes about 30 minutes, to unlock The Keeper the intended way you would have to invest about 19 hours (23.5 hours if you donated no coins prior to the update).
>>
>The Soul
>Stopwatch
>Halo of Flies

Safest Keeper run in history confirmed, we fucking got this.
>>
pewdiepie just uploaded isaac video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX-PIer2v54
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>>122535790
>>122502292
holy shit just got the same
>>
>>122528081
Not for full price.
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rate my not fun time
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>>122552694
You're missing Swallowed Penny/Piggy Bank.
>>
>just want to get godhead
>need to get to bullshit big baal with RNG-dependent access conditions
THANKS EGGMOUND
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>>122553516
I think I got this even without those. Turns out the Soul was another run though? (Either that or it went off the item list)
>>
>>122553854
seed nigger i require it
tell me that head of the keeper is on some early floor
>>
>>122553929
Nah, got it on Depths 1 or 2 from a Golden chest I think?

Seed is GNTD W8ZZ but I thought you couldn't unlock items from seeds.
>>
>decent run going with Keeper
>it's still not fun
I want to like this steak, Ed, but you somehow made the coolest sin into the most boring fucking character.
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>>122553929
>make it to Blue Womb
>Chaos Card in the shop

There's some incentive to get good, anon.
>>
>anyone trying to 100% afterbirth

solely a measure of your autism, don't do it unless you want to seem autistic when you brag about it to your one and only friend
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>>122554419
>implying I have a friend
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>>122554561
You seem cute, do you want a friend?
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>>122554624
that girl is a murderous harlot
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Since when in the hell have bomb beggars been a thing?
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>Azazel
>kamikaze
>sad bombs
>curse of the tower
the bombs from tower worked with sad tears. the game lagged horifically for the few moments the bombs went off and then ran at doublespeed for the next 5 seconds. curse of the tower went off like 3 times at once during the satan fight at crashed the game, but it was still fun.
>it runs perfectly in the womb but like garbage on the rest of the game
anyone know why that'd be?
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>>122554767
Since Afterbirth launched, but they're extremely rare.
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>>122531545
never go to hush on challenges, I'm already too late but I fucked that up
doesn't count as you winning and makes the challenge a lot harder for no payout unless you really want 2 treasure rooms 4 chests and a shop.
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>>122554926
It's too late, I already did it.

I won easily.
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>only 5%
>3 coins and already jammed
and this percentage will going up this is truly a worst grind gameplay
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>>122554983
I mean, it does stop at 20%.
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>>122554940
good work, friend
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>>122555215
it was glass cannon anon
i started with epic fetus
it was literally impossible to lose
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>>122555032
only 5 coins per 1 win is still bullshit I will use cheat engine
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>Doing Daily
>It's Samson and you have to beat Isaac
>Get Reaper Tears early on in a Devil Deal because I thought that would be the best item I'd be able to get
>Devil Deal before Mom
>Mom's Knife
>Only have 1 heart and 1 Soul Heart
>Die to Mom

If I would've saved my hearts I would've at least gone to Mom's Heart.
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God damn it.
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>>122556203
Did Edmund make Brimstone super rare to find? I've never seen it yet.
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>>122556260
Since Afterbirth, I've literally only gotten it on Lost runs. Strange shit.

Though really, with the larger devil room pool and higher rate of junk devil rooms, it only makes sense that it's rarer.
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>>122556260
definitely feels rarer but maybe I've just been unlucky


in greed I've only seen it after breaking the game and rerolling 15 breakfests for 20 minutes
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First time doing blue bomber

Should I trade Kamikaze for Candle at basement2?
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Brimknives don't synergize with Sad Bombs.
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>>122556579
Why the fuck would you do that ?
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>>122556579
Yes.
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>>122556579
Why would you ever

why

kamikaze is like instant damage, you have to wait for candle, plus the damage output of kamikaze is much better even if it is more dangerous
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>>122556732
>>122556736
I'm getting mixed results here

Idk I like infinite bombs to get free shit but a consistent range attack seems decent? idk
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>>122556770
Candle also blocks tears.
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>>122556770
Pick what you want, but kamikaze offers way more dps (more up time), easy tinted rocks and secret rooms, and, most important : get out jail card.

Red candle is great of course, and can be better dps wise (especially against mobile enemies like mom's foot), but you the power to leave any room when you desire.
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>>122556318
>>122556479
Brimstone, along with other special items like Pyromania, has a reduced chance of being found (by a factor of four I think).
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>>122557031
Dammit I'm so fucking tired I can't even write.
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>>122556894
>>122557031
Thanks for the inputs!

I kept the kamikaze since it was early. Would've taken the candle in depth I think?
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>>122556260
Devil deal item pool is larger in afterbirth, making special item even harder to find. It sucks.
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>>122557106
No dude, no. Never take candle over kamikaze. Candle DPS drops, while kamikaze stays relevant until Chest / Dark Room(you don't even get to that point in the challenge). It's an instant kill for most non-boss mobs. If you use candle, you have to use it, throw it, wait for it to recharge, repeat. Kamikaze is just "boom, boom, boom" over and over. More DPS. I highly recommend just gitting gud at spacing yourself rather than relying on candle.
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>>122522569
>not really into gay stuff
you are the hero this general needs
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Does the Seraphim transformation give a Wafer effect? I'm fighting Hush and only taking 1/2 a heart per hit but I don't have the Wafer.
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Brimstone bombs carry.
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I wish I knew what combinations override stuff. I lost my Habit when trying to do the shop trick in greed mode. I think it was after getting the Seraphim combination that I lost it since walking into the curse room didn't hurt me anymore and all I needed was Hourglass since I had everything else. I couldn't get blank card off on 2 of diamonds anymore. I spent three hours just to have it erased by this.
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>Get to Massive Mephisto
>Broken Watch procs its slow effect

Best steak I've ever had.
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>>122557503
You probably just picked up a damage reduction like Holy Mantle, and you don't take damage anyways when you fly into Curse Rooms.
As a tip, you don't actually have to go through the door to deal the damage, you just have to touch it.
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>only have mega satan left to do on lost
>suddenly all the devil rooms start giving me good items and often show 3 of them too

wow fuck you edmund!!!
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>>122557398
Did you use a Percs pill / pick up Cancer?
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>>122559321
just take em and find a get out of the jail free card
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>>122530654
The Wooden Nickel turns him into Maggy with less health and a 50/50 chance of healing yourself each room

Fuck the Store Key, he should innately start with it as a passive and Swallowed Penny as his Trinket
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>>122559867

You can't take devil deals since 90% of them will kill him, Angel rooms are garbage 90% of the time as well so you can't even look forward to that. He doesn't have an innate $$$=Power so keeping money like his name implies does nothing. I imagined since he was the keeper, his gig would be being able to get shit from shops for free and/or a 0% Greed fight chance, but nope, and to top it off, his unlocks are pretty questionable. I can't think of a reason anyone would ever actively want sticky nickels.
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>>122536884
>A good majority of those are fucking useless

10/10 game Ed. Active items a shit
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>>122502090
>Glowing Hourglass doesn't work in greed mode now anyway.
What.
I just used it to max the greed machine less than an hour ago.
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A friendly reminder from OP that this 'expansion' is shit.
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Oh wow I actually did it.
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which one?
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>>122561196
If it's Basement 2, left.
If it's not, neither.
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>>122561265
>25:48

its basement 1 senpai i used joker
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>>122561332
I was more giving you a general rule for choosing so that you'd stop clogging the thread up with your bullshit "community interaction".
Nobody cares about your Curse of the Blind choice on your Eden run.
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>>122561512
But isn't /boig/ just for that?
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>tfw beat The Guardian first try
Am I lucky or what?
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>greed mod as azazel for speed farming
>first devil is red chest and 2 black hearts
>second is angel room with pennies
>third is angel room with 2 soul hearts and 1 gold heart
>fourth is angel room with 1 soul heart and 1 eternal heart
>fifth is devil deal, 2 black hearts and 1 red chest again
>last is angel room, 2 soul hearts and 1 gold heart AGAIN

Just... I don't know. That's the first time I don't get a single item with devil deals/angel room, not even in chests... I'm glad I was playing Azazel but really, how can you fuck this bad Nicalis ? What's the fucking point of making 2 separate item pools if you never give the opportunity to have them ?
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>>122561786
You got carried by your book, like I was.
The challenge is not hard, just stack HP for mom's foot and avoid as much damage as possible.
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>>122561512
General would be dead as fuck if people stopped posting that kind of shit senpai.
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>>122561982
I also had Stopwatch Basement 2
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>>122561786
It's an RNG challenge.

>>122561908
Can't be having too much fun on Greed mode, goyi- I mean anon.
Now go for next 100+ runs, you need to fill the machine without cheating!
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>curse of the tower
>pyromaniac
>12 red heart containers
oy vey
>>
Just beat The Hush for the first time with any character as The Lost

That razor is one hell of a thing.
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>tammy's head in the first 50 seconds
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>>122564148
niceme.me
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>>122564148
new MLP
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>>122565096
Amazing, anon.
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>>122564859
At least it's not horses, Anon.
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>>122565275
>>122564148
The fick is this shit, why was the sprite changed?
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>>122565345
It's a mod.
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>>122565345
its some dumb mod he found at /mlp/
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>>122565525
Sure.
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>>122546104
Small rooms
Useless Devil and Angel rooms
Items you need bombs or keys to get
Keeper not being able to boost his HP this one makes the least amount of cents because The Lost is already the no HP character. There's no reason to have two
Remove nerfs
Remove Greed Mode and make the Shop a brand new final chapter
Hush as the equivalent to Mega Stan for the Chest
Give Hush and Mega Stan their own floors
Items to buff shitty characters like Immaculate Conception for Maggy, Petrified Poop for ???, etc.
Release all the content on time
Stop making so many shit items so it floods up the pools with shit no one likes
No scaling health ever
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when i leave the crawlspace this P1 shit flashes on top of the ladder for a second
what is this, some arg bullshit again?
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>>122566012
If you get lodged out of small rooms, which happens sometimes because the game wasn't tested, it says P1 to stand for Player 1 to determine where you are on the screen if you manage to leave the boundaries of the game. I'd assume P2 would be for the shitty Co-Op babies

In crawlspaces, since you have to leave the screen in order to load the level back up again, they couldn't be bothered to remove the tell for where you are
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>Got a good amount of coins,Ultra Greed fight was ez
>Fuck yeah gonna get Lost a holy mantle
>Immediately jams at the first coin

NICE FUCKING STEAK MEME,FATMUND MCSHILLEN!!NICE FUCKING 6% CHANCE TO JAM!I AM ANALLY ANGUISHED BY THIS SHIT BECAUSE IT KEEPS HAPPENING.CHEAT ENGINE.EXE HERE I COME!
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>>122566425
>eating your steak slowly
>not downloading cheat engine
kek you into kekholding fa.m?
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>>122566537
>kekholding
>kek holding

nigga what
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>>122546104
>Small boss rooms, and the bugs present with them

Obvious change

>Unneeded character nerfs
Namely Azazel and Judas.
Lilith makes a bit of sense because she was absurd in Greed mode

Still is with a lot of battery items

>Weak characters still getting no love
Blue Baby and Lazarus, for instance
Every other character is more interesting to play.

Give them thematic items
Even petrified poop for BB would help.

>>122567178
C.uck is filtered into kek, desu senpai
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>>122567236
there's no h in that word though f_am
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>>122567178
it's the fucking filter f'am

why do they have to fuck everything up
>>
>>122567495
senpai why can't you bypass the filter
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>>122567654
nice bypass fàm
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>>122567759
yeah i can do like fåm or fäm but that's a different word altogether fãm
>>
So what fun things have been purged with Afterbirth's presence?

Stuff like the lack of I Am Error rooms in the Chest/Dark Room now.
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>>122567862
Anything that had the potential to be fun has been nerfed or outright removed.
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>People say the Keeper is harder than the Lost

Yeah nah fuck the Lost.
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>>122567495
baka desu senpai
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AHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>122513808
No items from afterbirth are special
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>>122569185
here's hoping for tine planet
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>>122569296
Mitre and 3 Spacebars.

We rolling now!
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Might as well clear the entire chest and see what I get.

Well, attempt to clear it. Might get fucked by blind
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>>122569520
why didn't you reroll the spacebar items

d6 is kinda bad if you cant see the items
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>>122569597
He did, look at the sidebar.
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>>122569597
I did reroll them. I'm rerolling every space bar.

So far nothing bad. This is a pretty boring blind chest.
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>>122569737
>>122569817
oh sure my bad
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Chest cleared. Nothing bad obtained. This was the most shocking room until I realized Polaroid.

I don't want to imagine this as the Lost or Keeper though
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>>122570016
>That room

What the actual fuck
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>>122570142
6 buttons on the floor. Most logical thing would be to do one at a time but I just ran over all of them
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Athame is so fucking god tier it's not even funny
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Man, Blank Card + Jera is fun on a bun.
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>>122570373
>fun
Hey now, be careful with that word.
Blank Card is already way at the bottom of the Greed item pool.
Don't make Edmund take it out of the game.
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>>122570493
Oh woops, I mean, man I sure hate having an entire room filled up with hearts.
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>>122570607
Anon how did you lose 7 fucking soul hearts
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>>122570848
I am pure shit at vidya.
Also it's pretty hard to see what's going on with all those hearts cluttering the room.
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>>122570848
Not him but you wouldn't believe how many hearts I can lose in a fight with red poop in the room.
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>NECROPOLIS LEVEL 2
ONLY DAMAGE UP HAS BEEN THE HALO FROM AN ANGEL ROOM

WHY
WHY EDMUND WHY
I'M KILLING ALL MY ENEMIES WITH ATHAME AND CURSE OF THE TOWER BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOREVER
>>
Is it just me or does Taurus not work in Greed mode?
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>>122571683
You know what really needs scaling health?
An optional bullet-hell boss and the end-boss of a mode you'll never willingly play.
What's that, the main game? No, that doesn't need scaling at all.
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>>122571748
It works in Greed Mode, but only on the rooms that close when you enter, like the level-end rooms.
It doesn't work when you press the button because fuck you.
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So uh, what happens, again?
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>>122572420
Diplopia is a one-use item that duplicates every single item in a room, including pedestal items.
Your best bet is to save it for a particularly good Angel/Devil Deal, Boss Rush, Blue Womb or a good Tears and/or Damage Up.
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>>122572585
Or the Chest.
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>>122572585
Nonono, I get that

What does it do with the ? card
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>Fighting Hush as Fun Guy with one makes you larger pill and no orbitals

TEST YOUR MIGHT
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>>122572691
Oh. ? Card will do the same thing without consuming Diplopia.
So hold onto both and keep an eye out for items worth using one of the two or both on.
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>>122572853
One Makes You Larger doesn't affect your hitbox, silly.
That would have taken effort to code.
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>>122570279
Is it? I found Circle of Protection and Maw of The Void to be fun to use. Especially Circle of Protection.
Haven't unlocked Athame yet, busy clearing I Rule right now, then going to Eve Hard Mode, hope for a super start, and take out Mega Stan, Hush, and Boss Rush all in one run.
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>>122522089
Have you thought about unchecking the "Install ShitDump Plus Add-on for me!" box when you install things?
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WHY
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>>122573554
dont be a pussy
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>>122573554
>>122573581

FUCK IT
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>>122573682
DO IT
>>
so did we finally get the content we paid for?
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>>122573714
WHY ARE YOU ALLOWED TO ROLL INTO DEAD CAT TWICE
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>>122573780
Do you get your hundred dollar steak immediately in the restaurant? No, you wait for it to be cooked.
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>>122573780
We've had it for a while now.
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>playing the lost
>see a red & white card
>have 9 coins
>"Well, if it's spades, I can have keys for the gold chests in the other room. If it's clubs, I can break that tinted rock. If it's diamonds, I'll have enough for a shop item when I get a key."
>use it
>2 of hearts
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>>122574295
>using cards before seeing what they are

why
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>>122574478
Maybe he's playing using the Mystery Cards seed option?
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>>122574478
>>122574590
I don't actually know why I worded it like that. I knew it was 2 of Hearts before I used it.

I think I'm too use to shitty pills.
>>
>proptosis vs the stain as the lost

just end my life, such a good run gone to waste
>>
What's the point in removing the devil room doors if you leave the boss room?
>>
I have completed everything except Keeper stuff, unlocked him but never played yet. Should I wait until some patch makes him less awful?
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>>122512978
Old man isaac is probably Abraham, but that's just a guess.
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>>122576645
No clue
I've always assumed it was so you couldn't go out to the shop for a battery and reroll it with a D6 or some shit
But it makes no sense to me other than to have a reason for Goathead existing
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>>122576645
It forces you to plan for the potential Devil Deal/Krampus and puts you on the spot if you didn't think ahead.

>>122576703
You shouldn't wait, because the next patch will remove him healing from coins and take Holy Mantle out of the game when you play as him.
>>
Is Hush like Mom's fight where it locks you out afterwards?
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>>122577148
no, you can go back to the other rooms
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>>122576857
I don't mean re-entering the devil room, but:
>kill boss
>devil door opens
>go back into level
>go into boss room
>devil door not there anymore
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Which one?

Also, MissingNo. made me this way.
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>>122577339
Awesome thanks buddy
Nothing quite like being able to knock out Hush and Mega in the same run
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>>122577714
Please respond.
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>>122577714
>Ipecac on Hush
I'm so sorry. I'd take Tech .5 for the piercing, and with ipecac it'd do a lot of damage.
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>>122577714
Sac dagger without ANY hesitation
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>>122577968
Got it, thanks. MissingNo is so unexpectedly good.
>>122578059
But I already have full 3 orbitals. Going for Tech.5 cuz MissingNo also gave me Kidney Stone, Chocolate Milk, Ipecac, Deathtouch, etc.
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R E K T
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WHAT THE FUCK

WHY
WY
HWYH
W'KJE
WKHF';LKADF;ALKDJFADKJF

WHY DOES THIS KEEP FUCKING HAPPENING TO ME

GO FUCK YOURSELF EDMUND
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Holy FUCK, Missingno!
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>>122578594
I HATE THIS GAME
I HATE YOU NICALIS
I HATE YOU EDMUND
>>
Anyone know if Raw Liver gives 2 health ups for the keeper?
I got a black market and I want to get Guppy's Head and then Raw liver to get back to 2 health coins. (There's also Fate, Maw of the Void, and Breakfast.)
>inb4 take breakfast
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>lost run for mega stan
>get mom's knife
>book of belial from library(platinumgod says it doesn't remove angel rooms)
>polyphemus
>all kinds of other good items
>do boss rush even though i don't need it
>only do a devil deal on the last floor of the womb because there's no point in holding back at that point
>go to cathedral
>easily beat it
>at the chest
>no dad's key in starting room
>get through the entire floor using book of shadows and just playing well
>every single chest i open doesn't have dad's key
>three bombs left
>successfully guess both of the secret rooms
>they're shit

Can't eat my steak much slower than this, Edmund.
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>>122577714
D A G G E R
A
G
G
E
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>>122578996
Seed for anyone who may want it I guess. Enjoy no mega stan.
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>>122578996
NEVER bank on finding a Dad's Key now
The item pool is fucking huge and I'm sure it gets pushed to the back in the Chest
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>>122579435
Actually, since the last patch I have found Dad's Key in the first four gold chests. Albeit not on a character I needed it on, but still.

I just have terrible luck. Might as well kill myself.
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>>122521859
Awesome stuff, not-whore Eve is my favorite
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Fucking finally.
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JUST LET ME IN

GOD

DAMNIT
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>>122567495
this is way funnier than your shitty ebonics

I genuinely get a chuckle every time I see desu sempai
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>>122567862
>So what fun things have been purged with Afterbirth's presence?

everything
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>>122573780
probably

but the 100% achievement is still unlockable, so who knows if that's a bug or a feature
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>pandora's box + the car battery doesn't spawn double the stuff
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>Refuse 4 devil deals in a row
>Donate to the blood bank
>Give judgements money
>Donate to the shop
>have shit damage and rely on midas touch to do kill bosses
>Don't get a single angel room despite all of this

I have not gotten to mega satan since afterbirth once and have all of lilith's and the lost's post its to do.
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>>122583095
>Sena

That dog has shit taste.
>>
>first time in Cathedral also killing Isaac
Shit's good.
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>>122584014
The guitar + chorus makes that so good.
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>>122584162
I've actually muted the BoI music after just ~2 hours of playing and haven't heard any of it for the past 40h.
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>>122584354
So do I. But I only unmute the music during Boss Rush, Hush, Blue Womb, Satan/MegaStan, or Chest.
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Do we have all the content now? Is the steak safe to be gulped down yet?
I'm still not playing until everything's released
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>tfw beating Sheol and the Dark Room with 1 Heart and a fuckton of damage
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>>122585696
probably not
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>>122585306

Burning Basement's pretty good though
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>>122585306
I like the cellar track a lot
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>>122584354
>>122585306
I just got a mod for vanilla BoI music to replace the new OST. They weren't bad but the Rebirth/Afterbirth OST didn't impress me at all (excluding the Caves anyways, love that track).
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What would YOU take, anon?
I'm Lazarus, doing a Dark Room.
I took the Epic Fetus.
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>>122586758
Epic Fetus, I like explosive tears more & secret rooms would be an ease to find.
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>>122570016
>unavoidable damage doesn't exist
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>>122586758

I'd probably only take Sacrificial Dagger over Epic Fetus if I had Gnawed Leaf. And even then I'd have to think about it.
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>>122587074
I could have though. That was a button room. I pressed all buttons
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This is still a really bad synergy, right?
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>>122587274
>>122570223
You were fucked anyway.
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>>122587359

>Still

But it never was?

It lowers charge time.
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>>122585306
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhdlLlRMH_c

The only redeeming part of greed mode is reaching ultra greed and hearing this.
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>>122579661

So... i guess you used the Hourglass/Chaos card trick? How long it took you do fill the machine?

I'll try to do the same shit later.
>>
http://i.imgur.com/nAyFHEX.gif
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>>122587457
Oh does it?
I've never had Chocolate Milk+Brim in Rebirth/Afterbirth, only in WotL where it increased your charge time drastically for negligible damage.

Thanks.
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>>122587581

Oh. OG Isaac was so long ago I barely remember anything, but yeah. In this game it just decreases charge time but gives no damage bonus. Worth picking up.
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>>122587527
30/45 minutes, anon.
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>letting go of the button during an Incubus's brimstone doesn't cancel it like normal Brim
>if you press the button again you can begin charging another Brimstone beam during the current one
>with decent enough tears, you can basically shoot an endless stream of brimstone with Incubus

holy shit
don't tell Edmund
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>>122587359
How did you get missinghud to work after the patch? It displays 0 for me
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>>122586758
I went on to do Hush and then realized my speed would not be enough to avoid the lasers. Guess what did me in?

>>122587074
Yeah that
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>>122585696
1001% achievement is still unobtainable
>>
There's a gallery of isaac in panda. That's sad.
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>>122579661
wasn't hourglass abuse patched?
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>>122589130
there's a whole subreddit for it
it's the only reason i visit reddit
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>>122589130
How can you fags jack off to the story of a dying kid?
Like
What the fuck
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>>122565767
>cents
10/10
>>
>>122589484
The human capability to create porn out of something never fails to impress me.
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>>122588169
Not so bad...

Thanks for the info man!
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Whose fucking idea was it to add the totally random and unavoidable tears from off the edges of the stage to the hush fight?

I just had a dr.fetus+ipecac run with the lost and it was ripped away from me because the completely untelegraphed offscreen bullets happened to catch me.
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>>122590102
Stand still.
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>restarting keeper
>get knife and swallowed penny on first floor
>find chaos card and blank card later
>do boss rush and hush
>can't get both key pieces, so no megasatan

I could have eaten the whole thing, fuck you.
>>
What are the drawbacks of Technology 1? Are there any or is it a straight upgrade?
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>>122590102
They're actually pathetically easy to dodge.
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>>122590102
>non-telegraphed
He starts crying them, nigga.
You see them coming at you, and if you only see them when they wrap around you aren't paying enough attention.
They're easy to dodge.

>>122590943
Its hitbox is really narrow and it doesn't work with tear effects, IIRC.
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>>122546104
more content
no lying
bring OP azazel back
stop trying to nerf fun
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>>122543754
>judas below keeper
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man, I have so many hours in this game and I still feel like I'm playing sub-optimally

I never use sacrifice rooms, challenge rooms or curse rooms (except when I have flying or holy mantle) and I barely ever use dice rooms. Also I almost never remember to search for secret rooms and devil rooms are a fucking bitch now since like 30% of the time it's Krampus
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>>122593547
>I never use sacrifice rooms, challenge rooms or curse rooms (except when I have flying or holy mantle) and I barely ever use dice rooms.

That is playing optimally
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>>122593547
>I never use sacrifice rooms, challenge rooms or curse rooms (except when I have flying or holy mantle) and I barely ever use dice rooms
Because they're shite
>not liking the free A Lump Of Coal
Burn in hell
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>>122593767
I always get hit at least twice by him unless I have some ridiculous broken build

he must be doing some audio cues for his lasers but I play with the sound off
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>>122593547


>I never use sacrifice rooms
Neither does anybody else, they're 100% trash. Not a single reason to ever use them. Even if the rest of the floor is covered in hearts and you have a skeleton key, it's just a waste of time.
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>>122593547
>Sacrifice Rooms
Understandable because they're still shit.
>Challenge Rooms
They're even shittier thanks to Afterbirth unless you're The Lost, Azazel or have Flight.
>Curse Rooms
They're even shittier thanks to Afterbirth.
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>>122592813
>anything below Judas in Afterbirth
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>>122593849
There are visual cues, he has a specific face when about to lazor
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ok so how to fix rooms?

curse rooms = guaranteed collectible drops
challenge rooms = guaranteed item
sacrifice rooms = err... scrap them?
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>>122594275
sacrifice rooms: combine them with treasure rooms by putting spikes in front of the item :^)
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>play Isaac for the first time since finding out Azazel is fixed
>"gonna unlock me a Lilith"
>this happens by the second floor
I didn't think it would be this easy
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>>122594430
But Regular Treasure Rooms already do that :^)
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>>122594167
Why do you not like Judas?
He's my favourite with Cain.
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>>122587359
Chocolate Milk is one of the best items in the game
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>>122594167
>can pick up hearts
>can pick up soul hearts
>not dogshit firing rate
>free damage on a three-room cooldown
>increased devil/angel room chance with said free damage
>can still use curse rooms with one health pickup or a soul heart
>can take two-heart devil deals without dying

I'd love to know why you think Keeper is better than Judas.
>>
>blue bomber

this shit goes to Sheol? Oh my god
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>>122594820
i'm just upset because Judas used to be my favorite
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>>122594854
>he went to Sheol
That boy ain't right, I tell you hwat.
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>>122594762
>I can't read
Alright, buddy.

>>122594820
Because people think if they whine enough about how Judas is unplayable, he'll get buffed again.
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>>122594919
>implying Sheol isn't twice as easy as Cathedral
>>
how badly was judas nerfed
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>>122594275

Don't do any of that and put more spiders and 4 champion Rag Men in each room. For treasure rooms make it so the item doesn't appear until you defeat all of those enemies.
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>>122595024
Satan is immune to Kamikaze.
Your only method of damage is carefully timing your bombs or using Brother Bobby.

>>122595106
Book of Belial no longer guarantees Devil or Angel Rooms, that's it.
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>>122595148
sorry I wasn't thinking about the challenge just talking in general
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>first time playing blue baby
>get krampus in a small devil room on level 2 with two aggro fires.
Thanks for nothing, game.
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>>122595148
It's also worth mentioning that book of belial still increases devil room chance, it's just not guaranteed anymore
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>>122594854
I feel like a good 5-10 challenges would be a fuck ton easier if they stopped at Mom's Heart.
Looking at you Darkness Falls.
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>>122587531
>imgur
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>>122590102
They're continuum shots. When she starts shooting, he shoots in one direction, and it will keep coming from that direction.
That's your cue to move to the side so you can attack him without taking damage.
It's literally easier than even the easiest of 2hu games
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>>122595651
the filesize was likely too big

think before you type
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>>122595651
File size, presumably.
>8.55 MB
Yep.
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>>122595976
it's something called a webm
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>Athame confirmed god tier item for The Guardian Challenge
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>>122596186
It's god tier even not on the challenge
Group of those stupid drowned chargers? Run into them and take all of them out at once and get like 3-4 black hearts
It's even MORE broken if you get the Blind Rage trinket
Top tier as fuck
>>
Holy shit serpents kiss is OP as fuck.

Common cold + the virus + black hearts every 6-7 kills
>>
Let's say they were creating a trinket that would blindfold your player, but could be dropped any time.
What bonuses would you get from holding it?
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>2 devil rooms and deals taken floor to floor
>nothing on the next floor
I really don't understand how this stupid fucking system works
I didn't take any damage, i took the deal, go fuck yourself
Doesn't help that Goat head is rare as fuck now and I NEVER see it
Fuck you edmund
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>>122597209
taking a deal really only influences if the next deal is angel or devil.

As far as whether or not you get a deal unless you have goat head its around a 50% chance that a deal room will spawn assuming you take no red heart damage on the floor.
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>>122595710
I hate Ragman, so don't put Scatman John's face on it.
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>>122587531
I'm honestly amazed your game wasn't crashing.

I had a similar build a few days ago and I couldn't even fire a tear without the entire game crashing. Even locked up my computer once.
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PLEASE PUT RAGMAN ONTO FLOOR 3 AND BELOW

THOSE FUCKING BANDANNA SPIDERS HAVE MORE HEALTH THAN GODDAMN MONSTRO
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>>122594689
fuck I had the ludo+brim combo once and I still dream of getting it again.
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>>122597547
I get more annoyed by Peep than Ragman because at least I know Ragman is imbalanced as fuck but I feel like I should not be getting hit by that fucking pissmonster
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>>122594275
sacrifice rooms: every heart of damage spawns an item, increasing in quality depending on how many you lose without exiting the room
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>>122597870
how do you gauge quality though

there is no such filter in the game. Maybe you can go "collectible - > normal chest - > golden chest"
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Man I fucking hate Lilith
Tedious ass fuckin
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>>122597998
that's pretty much what I was thinking. like coin -> key/bomb -> pill/card -> normal chest -> golden chest etc. Killing yourself should act like a suicide king and/or guarantee an item from the devil room. Also removes the sacrifice room so you can scum it with dead cat.
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>>122597547
Rag Man himself has health equal to Monstro. The spiders are about as bulky as the purple worms that shoot spiral tears.
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>>122598226

At least she has the most easymode bossrush ever. Even with no damage ups its basically unlosable.
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>>122594275
I think Curse and Challenge rooms are fine as is. If you really want to buff curse rooms, make it so that the damage they deal doesn't reduce your devil deal chance since it's self-inflicted.

I guess Challenge Rooms always being 3 chests would be an acceptable buff, too, but I don't really think they need it.
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>>122598226
Would fucking Lilith in the ass impregnate her if it hurt?
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>>122598296
Yeah if I ever get to bossrush with this garbage
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>>122598578
Lillith is fun if you think of her gimmick being doubling your tears rather than doubling your familiars. Honestly most of the time taking other babies is actually worse because it spaces out your incubus.

Go for tear modifiers like Monstro's Lung and fuck shit up with the box.
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>Doing the Daily
>Scarred Womb 1
>Room full of red poops in columns with a button on the left side
>Get to the button, press it
>Your reward is a super troll bomb
>You're trapped in the column of shit so you can't run away

UNAVOIDABLE DAMAGE ISN'T REAL, GUYS
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>>122595646

That's how challenges have always been.

The stupid bullshit ones drag on forever, the fun ones with cool item combinations end at Mom's Foot.

Practically the only exception is I Rule, which is pretty fun and goes all the way to Mega Satan.
>>
The lost with built in holy mantle is really really fun.

Like seriously some of the most fun i've ever had with the game.

It's gone from being a bullshit difficulty spike to a super fun glass cannon what with the free devil deals, free curse rooms and free spike chests.
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>>122598781
>UNAVOIDABLE DAMAGE ISN'T REAL, GUYS
who the fuck said that. I'll slap them

unless you have specific defensive items or a lot of stat buffs unavoidable damage rooms are a fact
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>guillotine as Azazel
This is weird, I think I don't like how this controls.
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>guillotine on anyone
>>
>Dr Fetus
>Loki's horns
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>>122599295
>liilth
>>
I wish I knew who the anon who informed me that you can save the game in angel rooms to get both Key Pieces was so that I could buy him a legitimate 100 dollar steak

so much strife saved
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Oh god it's over. It's finally over.
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>>122599542
>It's finally over.
Nope.
Enjoy Pre-Mantle Lost 2.0!
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>>122599741
Keeper is way better than the Lost.
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>>122599164

There are still people who think this, even in our post-Afterbirth world.
>>
Grinding out the Keeper unlock is suffering.
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>>122599906
>no devil deals
>same health as lost with holy mantle
>no flight
>no spectral tears
>no d4
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>>122600354

Install the Dollar+Greed Machine in starting room mod or use cheat engine. No point suffering through some bullshit grind. This is an RNG dungeon crawler, not a F2P Korean MMO.
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>>122600480
I still find him more enjoyable than the Lost. Challenging but not complete bullshit.
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>>122599542
But every 1000 additional coins you donate to greed machine gives him another health coin.
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>>122600675
Are you kidding me
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Which one
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>>122600819
Spoon Bender is shit unless you have any of the Technologies or Brimstone.
Cricket's Body is alright in almost any situation if you can get your Range back up.
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>>122600819
Dog Rug
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>>122600819
crickets body
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>>122600778

Yes.
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>Polyphemus Keeper
I call it the Once-a-Year Tears.
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Is it possible to not take damage in this room?
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>>122601140
Get gud kid
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>>122601012
You think it's bad now? Just wait until you get Mutant Spider and Eve's Mascara.
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>>122600778
No. Confirmed with cheat engine.
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>>122601140
Move to middle and then wing it.
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>>122601243
>steak captcha
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Is there any reason to pick up the D8, D10, D12, or nerfed D7?
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>>122601225
Mutant Spider and Triple Shot tear delay don't stack, I'm pretty sure
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>>122601605
D8 is alright if you find it after picking up a bunch of worthless stat ups. Reroll your shit until you have better stats.

D7 is still really good for getting multiple rewards from miniboss rooms and shit.

D10 and D12 are pretty worthless. I guess D12 can possibly roll Skulls for Black Hearts/Cards, Mushrooms for Liberty Cap/Magic Mush and Tinted Rocks, but in general it'll be useless.
>>
>>122601605
D7 can still be usable like how it was Pre-Nerf if you happen to have AAA Battery and 9-Volt.
D8 is about as RNG as it gets with your stats (Damage, Tears, Range, Speed).
D12 is great if you happen to have lots of bombs and you're on a floor with Skulls, Mushrooms or Urns.
D10 is basically useless.
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i'm noticing a trend with mystery sack
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>>122602792
OKAY WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT
I HAVEN'T UNLOCKED STICKY NICKELS WHAT THE FUCK MAN
>>
So with 1001% not achievable, what are the odds the old man is gonna be a third character to the expansion? If he's fun will that ease the pain of everything else?
>>
>>122503910
Man, this would be nice to have, if only steamcommunity.com would actually let me login

Why the fuck do we have to login to download mods anyway?
>>
>>122602936

Sticky nickels don't even need to be unlocked.
>>
>>122602969
If he is in the game, considering the fact that he seems to be a biblical character rather than a dead Isaac like Blue Baby, Lost and Keeper, he's most likely going to be extremely fun for the first few days before being nerfed to oblivion.
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>>122603154

To keep pirates from getting the mods. :^)
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>>122603154
http://www.mediafire.com/download/h7p71cnoygo9933/Greed+mode+donation+Farm+1.2.zip

Here you go fem
We should put this in the OP
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>>122602969
>If he's fun will that ease the pain of everything else?

No.
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>>122603450
yeah fuck you
I can login at steampowered just fine, but any instance of steamcommunity rejects me without even giving me an error
>>
>>122602969

I doubt he'll ever actually be put into the game. That'd be too much of a good idea for ed and tyrone.
>>
>>122602969
Assuming Old Man is Abraham, how would he play, anyhow?
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>>122603868
did you really edit out your friend's profile pictures
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>>122603868

Why fuck me, I didn't make the site.

That's the actual reason they make you log in. It does a library check to make sure you bought the game. That's why it doesn't work if your profile is private.
>>
>>122602969
I thought it was confirmed that the old man was just a skin someone made to use with the datamined keeper data?
>>
>>122604045
yes. I care about my friends enough not to post their profiles (pictures or no) on 4chan of all places

>>122604070
You implied I pirated.
I actually don't remember if my profile is private. probably is, but that doesn't explain why I can't login even when I'm just going to steamcommunity itself

>>122603756
You are awesome.
>>
>>122604315

I didn't imply you pirated. You asked why you have to log in and I answered you. The :^) was because I think it's retarded too.
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Oh look
It's the "Guess I'm just fucking dead" room
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>>122600675
DELETE THIS
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>>122604450
I apologize, then.
>>
Why are all the new transformations such dogshit? And why is there no spider transformation?
>>
>>122604951
Was Tumor "fixed" yet?
And does it actually synergize with things like Brimstone?
>>
Is whore of babylon still broken? I just traded away all my hearts away with eve and it doesn't seem to be activated, but I can't tell under the piles of head fuck ups I've picked up.
>>
>>122605112

Tumor lets you shoot straight now on top of the transformation effect.

Never had that transformation, let alone getting it with Brimstone, so I don't know.
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>>122605326
Works fine for me
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>>122605326
I had WoB as Azazel the other day and it worked fine.
>>
>>122597209
Download MissingHud2, it gives deal percentages so you can see how it fluctuates from floor to floor and what influences its chances.
>>
new thread when
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I want the cheat engine so I don't have to grind Greed mode, someone got a link?
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>>122606116
n e v e r

rip /boig/
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