/wtg/ - War Thunder General

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WHEN?

>>122500014
BTFO

Was putting a talisman on the M18 rather than on the M10 or buying Cobra King a mistake?

>>122501450
No.

>>122501450
No

>>122501450
Definitely not

>>122501554
>>122501505
>>122501482
Cobra King this bad?

>>122501615
it's ok at most, the M18 is both more fun and better

>>122500045
Did the other Sabre engine not produce as much heat for them to get rid of the huge drag-chin-radiator and go for the wing root ones? Did they do the job in cooling it?

>>122498149
>get jumped by one plane
>he sets it on fire and damages it in a way it's clearly going to "you will leave your aircraft in ..." soon. (flaps falling off, etc, make this clear)
>another guy gets in a single hit before this happens
>single hit guy gets kill credit

is kill credit just RNG or what?

>>122502415
It still has a chin radiator, just a much smaller one. And I would assume that even if there was less radiator area it would be more effective just because of how fucking fast the Fury was.

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>"hit" a tiny bolshevik pile of twigs and canvas with a 40mm HEFI
>it doesn't explode into a thousand bits

>>122503396
Speaking of radiators why did nobody in WW2 think of using the surface of the entire plane as a radiator? If it's made of aluminum/duralumin, it should conduct heat well, and having the entire skin as a heat conductor means all of the passing air around the plane gets rid of the heat. Or maybe it was thought of but wasn't as effective as regular radiators?

>>122504192
Just to add, I'm thinking of something that's only used on the fuselage so the hot air wouldn't compromise lift on the wings.

>>122503396
>enemy tries to prop hang up to me
>stalls
>teammate hits him a few times
>no visible damage
>I go back to finish him
>get one hit in
>he crashes into the ocean
>I get assist, teammate gets kill
It must be RNG.

>>122503982
maybe they need a quick replay option like in tanks, so you can save from spazzing out?

>>122504192
Now you're spreading out a delicate and critical component to a greater area of the plane, so it's going to need much more armor plating and still be at higher risk of being hit.

I understand and even kinda like the LOST CONTROL thing in RB, but why the fuck is it in arcade too? This is a gamemode where biplanes can go transonic in dives and heavy bombers can pull 12G turns, what's the point of adding a "realistic" feature to it?

>>122498097
Not really because most of the crew of modern tank are separated in the tank

>>122505167
Gaijin probably can't make it work for just one mode because they're a terrible dev.

>Briddish danks will be paywalled
>current premiums won't unlock them
>new packs will need purchasing

Calling it now.

>>122505167
pretty much this >>122505872
anyway, who cares?

>>122506169
>please contribute with a couple of shekels to get access to the bong tonks beta
>bongs will be undertiered as fuck and will club everything, hence attracting shitters

>>122506551

I care because sometimes I feel like playing full retard mode, and the G-loc takes away a bit of the full retard factor that makes low tier (biplanes and at most tier 1, I'm not gonna touch medium to high tier arcade let alone jets) fun

>>122504759
it wouldn't be delicate at all, imagine heat spreading copper pipes or a mesh coming from the engine and spread out over the fuselage skin from the inside. Hitting the fuselage would only damage one small portion of the mesh.

>>122506878
Copper pipes carrying water, water that needs to be pressurized. How do you maintain that pressure when part of it is riddled with 8mm holes?

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Tanks are dead... they finally managed to do it they killed it. It is gone now lost forever.

I returned today to wt after several months.
Have you got some good guide for the crew point and the planes worth the effort to pick?

>>122507515
Good point

>>122507618
yes, its called mouseover it

>>122507689
good, can i put an usb up your ass? i need the deep understanding of the gameyou store in your anus, because the mouseoverit technique tell me what a skill do, not the best way to assign point

>>122507521

Nothing of value was lost.

>>122507993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s--hg43ybY

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At least planes are still okay.
>Daily reminder to put gunpods on your g-2's

>>122508696
>wanting worse performance
why desu

>>122508801
more daka

>>122509084
>needing more than one cannon

You don't need more dakka, you need to get more gud.

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>>122508801
Dropping bombers and fighters alike with a single slight pass and continuing on your way of course.

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>>122509084
dakka doesn't kill Yak-3P
>>122509587
Killing bombers doesn't win games

>>122509621
B-But it's fun!

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Is it true that Russian tanks with the same RDX in their shells have more explosive power than German ones, or is this typical wehraboo "muh russian bias" shit? I've got some dude telling me that Russian shells are overperforming but he's got jack shit evidence to back it up.

>>122510025
ALL RUSSIAN IS OVERPERFORMING

>>122510025
Explosive types (and their equivalent to TNT) and amount are all listed under shell types now, just go look at it yourself.

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>>122509621
You want this, don't you? The hate is swelling in you now. Take your gunpods. Use it. Plane is unarmored. Strike it down with it. Give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant.

>>122510025
It's on the shells stat cards, you can see the TNT equivalent mass for each shell. Russian ones have double their actual mass, Americans and Germans have half.

>>122510236
I have.

This dudes telling me that that number isn't actually real, it's the one in the game files that matters.

Except he can't access the game files. So he doesn't actually have anything to say soviet shells are overperforming

>>122510272
What do you mean by that? Example? Like, do they have double the TNT equivalent for the same explosive or what.

>>122510418
>Except he can't access the game files. So he doesn't actually have anything to say soviet shells are overperforming
Yes he can, just like people did before, and found out that the MK103 HVAP shells have a higher chance to set you on fire than .50 cal API. I'm sure you've seen the graph of different shell performance and values for planes.

>>122510025

I haven't played a lot in months, but it used to be really obvious. A penetrating hit anywhere with a Russian gun would be a one hit kill, every time. Meanwhile, German guns required about five better aimed shots.

The few games I've played recently, the non-Russian guns do more damage, but I haven't faced or used Russians yet to compare.

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>>122510674
Well according to him he can't access them anymore.

I don't know why I bother arguing, so far it's been like fighting a brick wall.

>>122510901
It's literally on the wiki.

>>122510901
Yea, there was a thread on the forums that got deleted showing that Russian 122mm APHE had the same explosives as a 152mm. This is is from before the new stat cards.

>>122510901
>Well according to him he can't access them anymore.

That's correct. We're looking about 4-5 months before wt-tools gets updated again. If it is encrypted though, we're never going to see raw FM files again.

>>122511246
I'm well aware of that thread - I'm not sure there's anyone who seriously played the game who wasn't aware of that thread honestly. But as far as I'm aware, Gaijin said with this patch that they changed all the shell values to their historical values - thus the addition of the explosive and filler values to the stat cards.

What he's trying to argue is that Russian shells are still overperforming, even though the stat cards are accurate now. Except he hasn't proven it, just saying that he can't access the game files anymore....

At this point I'm convinced it's just blind, mindless "Russian bias!!11!" argument all over again.

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Found this on FB, poster is a total shitter and i don't get how the contents are relevant to the gift message, but I respect their dedication to the general

>>122511408
So he is talking out of his ass? (For now at least)

Well, least I know he's an idiot I guess.

>>122511634
>lohere memespouting in real life

>>122511708
He's correct. The stat cards are just typed out. It has no correlation to whatever is actually contained within the file. I don't know why, but to me, it says "lazy" rather than "hiding".

Now, this may have changed in 1.53. Until someone is able to unpack the aces.vromfs.bin files, we don't know.

>>122510025
>>122510759
See, I wouldn't mind the russian shells because they're historical accuray. But combine that with the bullshit invulnerable sloped armor that gaijin conveniently forgot to model with the historical garbage weldwork, metal quality and other 'rushed-construction' characteristics.

The russian tanks have all the benefits but none of the disadvantages.

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>>122511579
>gaijin routinely proved to be lying cunts
>gaijin says they fixed it )))
>you believed them

>>122512154

The shell mechanics are far from reality.

>>122512191
>wanting evidence to back up claims

Sorry, but I've had people try and tell me that the Russian M4 has more explosive power in its shells than the American M4, only to look into the game files and find out that they're full of shit. Gaijin might be a bunch of lying cunts, but so is the community when it comes to these things.

>>122512154
Im still butthurt about the tiger's driver viewport.

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>>122512630
Maybe it'll be like the 262s BR and be fixed after ages and ages of Gaijin ignoring it.

Unrelated pic of my cat.

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>>122512842
If Gaijin would give them more fucking thrust, the BR they're at wouldn't be so bad.

The C-1 and C-2 got shit on this patch even more now because of Gs now actually doing what they're supposed to do.

>>122513447
The A1 is pretty OK at it's current BR afaik, no? I don't really know about the C-1 and C-2, rocket aircraft are weird.

>>122513541
The C-1 and C-2 suffer wing-ripping because of the rockets they have.
I'm aware you can simply not use them, but you're forced to because of how shit the thrust is on the jets stock.

The A-1 can also use more thrust, but I've been managing with it just fine by forcing P/F-80s and Meteors into energy fights.

>>122504192

They did

Its called surface evaporation cooling, and it has a few problems, cheif amoung them being a loss in efficiency with altitude unless you were to pressurise it (which creates more problems)

>I am a Naziboo
>I have bad breath
>I am autistic

Who am I?

>>122514010
Doktor_Junkers

>>122514010
all of QT508

>>122514010
The war thunder subreddit

>>122511408
>see raw FM files again.

Where can I look at this stuff?

>>122514053
Close
>>122514071
>QT
>Naziboos
>>122514207
Close

>>122514264
I only have the 1.51 files.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeWjdsWGFBcXdZem8

I didn't unpack everything though. I'm pretty lazy.

>>122514010
Konig "I'm disgusted by feet but i won't brush my teeth" Pilot

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Can anyone explain how this flanking wasn't obvious?

The guy even shoots at my old position to taunt me or something.

>>122514515
Ding ding ding
Congrats anon you win a 10% RP booster )))

>>122514557
>b-but flanking doesn't work!

>>122514557
Everyone just assumes German players are retarded by default now.

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>>122514557
>has the advantage
>just sits there

>>122514557
This is a case where flanking shouldn't work. He's not actively fighting something from the front, nor is he busy with something.

>>122514557
jesus that was embarrassing to watch

>>122514772
He had actually just been hit before than, I didn't see it in the game only in the replay.

I thought after seeing that that maybe his turret was broken, but you can see him moving it. So maybe it was his breach and is therefore sitting repairing. But if that was true why was he pushing forwards?

>>122515046
Did he shoot before? The reload for the T32 is excessively long and could have been megafucked by a sleepy loader.

>>122515240
No, but i'll rewatch the replay to see if he did.

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>You'll never play old Mozdok again

>>122515573
That's some pretty memey chat you have there.

>>122515320
>>122515240
Ok so he shoots at 3:08
Again at 3:28
Gets hit at 3:41
(I don't know if xray view shows current damage data in replays but appears ok)
I hit him at 3:56 as in the webm, I spotted him to the side but you see that he rotates when behind cover and I hit him bang on the slope of his front armour and it bounces no damage.
Then I murder kill him at 4:24

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>>122515726
It was a miracle to beat the germans back then, and that match we won by a landslide. It was justified. Wish I still had the replay. It was one of those matches you never forget.

From that same match

The MiG-15 is such an ugly pos, shame the La-168 was dumpstered

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Here have some more webms

>>122515803
And the T-32 is invulnerable to the 88 frontally
what the fuck was he doing?

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>>122516206
It has one of the ugliest canopies ever made. Slavs wanted to make it as sturdy and durable as possible,so the base design suffered.

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>stock P-38

>>122516740
Was the La-15/174 based off of this?

>>122516870
hah, sort of. Nazi designs.

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>>122500045
FUCKING WHEN!?!??!?!?

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>>122517109
It's ugly

>>122512842
>tfw the Meteor F3 is the new 262, forced to fight alongside/against Sabres and MiG-15bis every game

RIP planebro

>>122499885
Who typeset this?

>>122516740

Almost all jets back then looked like that

I'm glad they started placing intakes on the wing roots, because nose intake is ugly as fuck

Post yfw you realize all tanks have rangefinders in RB.

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>>122500045
WHEN?

Just want to drop off the belly of my bomber bro and engage bogies in my cute jet figher.

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>>122518452
epic xd lol desu
>mfw

>>122518869
LITERALLY FUCKING NEVER, FUCK OFF

>>122511634
heck off hunter

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>>122519132
SCREAMING ON A MESSAGE BOARD.

RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

ded
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>>122509621
>Killing bombers doesn't win games
>he hasn't played against B-29s

>>122520973
gud

>>122521532
not much in my G-2, no

BASE AAA IS THE BIGGEST LOAD OF HORSESHIT IN THIS GAME.
YOUR BASE SHOULD NOT BE A SAFE PLACE FREE FROM INTERFERENCE THAT YOU CAN JUST RUN TO WHEN YOU ARE IN DANGER.

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When are we getting the F8F-2? I want my Grumman space magic already.

In a slightly related note, Bearcats now snap at 700km/h and at 9G. Gaijin have successfully completely nerfed one of Americas only effective Tier IV fighters, great.

>>122522146
>being this much of a little bitch
>implying tier 5 AAA shouldn't be guided missiles

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>>122518869
WHEN?

>>122522176
Looks like if germany got the nerf corporation to build the 190

>>122522717
>T5
>relevant

>>122522176
>Gaijin have successfully completely nerfed one of Americas only effective Tier IV fighters, great.
so the lowered HP wasn't enough? The reduced turning capability wasn't enough?
The overheating above 80% throttle wasn't enough?
And the bong's griffons remain next to untouched

>>122522717
I'm going to try just sitting on the runway one of these days and see how many planes die trying to kill me to end the match.

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>>122523283
Probably none, considering a meteor can make three consecutive passes and be completely fine.

>>122523261
Nope, apparently not.

I guarantee I'll still see German pilots bitching about the F8F somehow.

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MXY-7 When?

>>122523426
Lad I saw that posted weeks ago.

>>122523606
What's that little nipple on the tip of the plane?

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>>122523695
its cold in japan sometimes

>>122523695
The propeller the plane uses to fly.

>>122523695
It detonates the plane.

>>122523283
I saw the AAA kill 4 guys in less than 3 minutes on the AF. On other match I've lost 3 teammates on the enemy AF; I've seen them doing 3 or 4 passes on someone in total before they got raped. The first guy got deleted before he could make a pass
I dont even bother to get close to the AF anymore unless we're around 6 in the area.

>>122523606
Why does it even have a gun sight

Were jap pilots that inaccurate?

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>>122523946
I mean, you only have one shot.

>>122523931
It's frustrating because in jet games you're never more than about 2 minutes from the AF so making a return whenever you're in danger is a valid strategy and I see it happen sometimes.

>>122523689
It happened a while back, but it doesn't make it less relevant. AAA is dumb, but only because it's unreliable and has no real counterplay. It's not "too strong."

>i report the NSDAP clan every time I see one in-game

>>122524913
#GasNaziboos

>>122524318
Post-1.53 AAA is a completely different world, that's why your month-old epic webm is irrelevant.

>>122525062
If you'd like I could go get new footage of AAA doing fuck all, but I promise it won't look any different. They're still RNG machines that will pilot snipe you at speed and altitude one day and do fuck all the next.

>>122526103
Except now making a single high-speed pass is guaranteed death and it'll probably get you at 3-4 km overhead if you give it the chance, but yes, an RNG machine that always rolls 20.

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Fucking burgers

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>Talisman D-30 + 200% booster + premium
>6 kills
>accidentally left a rank 1 plane in research so earn basically no vehicle RP

wow, I am fucking done with this game, what kind of shitty system is this? This is actually unforgivable

>>122526661
>why does this game not compensate for my own mental retardation?

>>122526661
Wow you are literally dumb.

>>122526779
>>122526894
Do you honestly believe it's legitimate to cut RP by this much when researching a low tier plane with a high tier?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS4_Z84-rRE

I can't tell if it's better than before, but I've been getting least one kill with it a match, fun stuff.

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>>122526661
>>122526779
>>122526894

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Fucking Burger Prime time

>>122523695
You may notice the same thing on torpedos

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>>122526271
>deluded d20 player spouting bullshit
Which board am I on?

>>122527345
I typically kill 229s in it and I think it's just because the 229 meta has shifted from "I can turnfight like a zero" to "I can kill ground targets", making them easy kills. War Thunder players fucking love killing ground targets. I used to think it was just US players but you give Germans an excellent plane that happens to be able to kill ground targets and what do you know.

>>122528247
Ground targets give easy money and sometimes that one asshole is really far away.

>>122528093
Wow another month old webm, thanks for sharing.

>>122528385
>literally just recorded it for you right now
Are you just going to stick to being wrong forever?

>>122507515
Dunno how viable it is with WW2 tech, but some kind of automatically closing system.

i.e. you spray along the tail area, tail stops being supplied water but the forward fuselage continues.

>>122528665
Are you going to stick to trying to cherry-pick examples?

>>122529027
>play one game
>record that game
Would you like to queue with me for a few games and watch me not die to AAA?

>>122529157
I'm done arguing with a blind retard actually.

I was told the MiG-15bis would be good, but this is the blandest shit

>>122529273
>calls bases guaranteed death
>provided with videographic evidence to the contrary
>calls others blind
Lad...

>>122529403
>cherrypicking harder than a mexican immigrant
>being this mad

>>122529917
>implying cherry picking
>implying I'm suppressing evidence
>using words when you don't know what they mean

>>122530076
>>122529917
>>122529403
>>122529273
*ooh ooh oh AH AH AH AH AH AH AH*
*throws shit at bystanders*

>>122530545
Okay Helmet

>>122530545
This forced monkey meme is honestly one of the most unfunny things I've ever seen.

>>122530545
>*actions*
kill yourself

>>122530749
it's because everyone uses it wrong

>>122530749
>>122530653
>>122530753
>>122530820
>ooh ooh AH AH OOH OOH AHH AH AH AH AH

should i research the il28 or the mig-9 lads

>>122531384
Work for your MiG-15bis so you can sit on the top of the totem pole until the next patch a year from now.

>>122531914
>bias pendulum
I'm working on my UK jets, it's gotta swing back this way eventually, right?
right?

>>122532160
hunter is already way better than most people say it is

>>122532356
>muh missing thrust
>muh energy retention at 200 kmh
>no turn rate at 100 kmh
>climbs slower than mig-15!

I'm sure we'll eventually see it be the top jet it should be. For now though, it's in the "gaijin plz fix, we don't know how to fly it, but it's your fault" phase.

>>122532160
I'm still waiting for a !otsu mod to give my B-57B 20mm cannons.

>>122510759
The 85 mm APHEBC of the T-34-85 hits harder than an long 88 mm. Also APHEBC kills lightly armored targets without overpen. Noted when grinded both tiers at the same time.

jesus fuck how do you even fly the MiG-15
Hunter was easy to figure out compared to this thing

>>122533264
>climb at high speed
>dive on anyone
>remind them that it was nothin' personal

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>these fucking new maps

>shoot slavshitter in turret
>gets the saving roll despite me having 50% more penetration then required at that thickness, angle, and range
>slavshitter clicks on literally the worst place to ever click yet still gets a 1 hit KO
I guess that's totally why the slavs put the cast turret on literally every tank past '43

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Can someone explain to me the science behind how the Hunter can turn at retarded high speeds?

but can't pull up out of a low speed loop

>>122536813
High wing loading means it needs to be going fast to properly maneuver. When you're going slow, there just isn't enough air under the control surfaces for cool shit to happen.

>>122536813
>ufo gaijin bias for bongs naturally
Because it's above corner velocity where it turns best. Also the thrust it has at high speeds help a lot to maintain energy.

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>activate booster
>get shot through 2 solid walls and 2 iron fences by some subhuman while I'm driving at 20mph

how does one see active boosters?

>>122537926
There would be a little marker up where your convertible RP and Lions are.

Just got a Ki-61 and Ki-44 but I can't decide which one to fly for the next little bit.

61 looks kind of like a 109. Are they similar?

>>122538914
early Ki-61 have ridiculous performance for their br. They're more like Japanese Mc.202.

>>122538972
Ridiculous as in bad or good?

Is Fury good?

What is the best way to dive on someone quickly without fucking your wings?

>>122539148
From a movie standpoint, it's okay, maybe a 7/10 at best.

From a realism standpoint, you'd be better off playing WoT

>>122539328
>conscripted faggot ruins it for everyone
>tigger kills 3/4 shermans before dying
>girls are sluts for the invading force
It's p real, senpai.

>>122539443
>tigger kills 3/4 shermans before dying
Thank you history channel.

>girls are sluts for the invading force
Why don't I remember this part

>>122539148
personally its my favorite ww2 movie, i don't give a shit about what other people say
like saving private ryan it is one of the few ww2 movies that isn't about the glorification of war, but rather the terribleness of it all. the main character grows as a soldier but loses his humanity in the end.
>>122539510
chocolate bar girl, the girl that normie fucks in the town

>>122537063
The Hunter has lower wing loading than the other swept wing jets in the game.

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>>122539510
This qt

>>122536813
At low speed it's using most of its available AoA just to stay airborne.

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>>122509621
I should continue cropping stuff.
Stopped because, one day, google image search stopped giving results.
It was fun trapping people into searching for "loli" only to find there where some extra appendages.
Curse you google, I know they did it on purpose.

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>>122541278
>surprising moonspeak

>>122541278
Those are really shit tier faces anon, you can do better than that.

how the FUCK can i have so much trouble transitioning from tier 3 to tier 4 germans?

I fucking DOMINATE in the g-2 trop but put me in any tier 4 and I'm god damn clueless

>>122542190
Becuse the g-2 is an easy life club machine and at tier 4 other nations start reaching your level of bullshit.

>try 15bis after a long time
>facing a team full of Hunters
>kill two while my team wipes out the rest
what was all the hunter hype about again?

>>122542190
The G-2 is better than most things it faces, the Tier IV 109s are not.

>>122542534
It's just shit tier bong pilots that don't know how to fly a plane outside of their hard to use left right machines

>>122542190
>I fucking DOMINATE in the g-2 trop
The G2 pretty much outmatches its opposition in every way.

>>122542190
>implying tier 4 germans are hard

also the g-2/trop is the 2nd best 109 in the game

WHICH AVIATION TREE IS BEST TREE
RUSSIAN SHITTERS NEED NOT APPLY

>>122543020
clapistan

>>122543020
bongistan

>>122543020
Spacefires.

>>122543053
>>122543112
>fiddies

fucking doubt it breh

>>122542525
but most of the shit it faces can compete with it, except maybe the corsairs

>>122543371
>bongistan
>fiddies

>>122543371
How bad are you?

>>122543371
I thought everyone agreed that performance is more important than slightly better guns

>>122543417
It's still better than 90% of them.

>>122543473
I belive everyone who plays RB agrees on that. Im guessing he's an arcade shitter

>>122543371
>can kill light pillboxes with no effort
>highest chance to start fires
What's the problem?

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>>122540131
>sweatingtowelman.tiff

>>122543371
US .50s are top-tier T1-T4.

>tfw you'll never go on long range patrols with your best mate in your F-86s
>you'll never drop your tanks and accelerate into the setting sun
>you'll never strive for air dominance over all of Korea
>range and endurance will never be relevant
>massively multiplayer dynamic campaign "world war mode" will never happen

>jump into my first game in my F2H
>instantly get jumped by a MiG-15bis
I don't know what I expected, but I should've known better.

>>122547527
all 8.0 jets are in a tight spot, it's not a case of russian bias

>>122547619
I like how the F2 and CL-13 can dominate top tier matches for a year, but the minute the favour swings into the Mig-15bis side it's suddenly russian bias.

is the tempest ii still based?

>>122547619
>it's not a case of russian bias
>>122547701
>le russian bias phantom
are you retarded?

>>122547836
do you believe the MiG-9 has any chance against sabres, even a-series, or hunters?

>>122547836
>le russian bias phantom

What? I'm pointing out all the people who're claiming the new Mig-15bis is Russian bias.

>>122547924
The MiG-9 shouldn't be fighting F-2s or Hunters just the same as the F2H or Meteor F.Mk 3 shouldn't be fighting the MiG-15bis or CL-13. Everything about jet BRs is a nightmare.

>>122548089
>Everything about jet BRs is a nightmare.
All 1.0-spread matchups are nightmares.

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>>122548279
>tfw fighting a J2M2 in a F4F-3

>>122548389
Remember: Japanese underdogs

>>122548426
hard to use N1K, J2M2, Ki 84 ko, A7M

im truly surprised japan has one of the lowest player counts

>>122549324
no exciting jets to work towards, only plane known by shitters is the A6M, and that's mostly known for losing

>>122549324
It's because all the europoor naziboos who tell themselves Germany is the best for fighting on two fronts have to convince themselves Japan was a meme so they can disregard that the US was doing that too.

>>122549731
I'm not sure that I can follow this reasoning.
Japan is not played because of European naziboos?

>>122549798
Japan is not played because people have convinced themselves that they sucked.

>>122549731
>implying Japan was anywhere near the same thread as britain or russia at any stage of the war

I'm not even a wehraboo but that's a pretty funny one right there. The history of japan in WW2 was raping a bunch of illiterate asian parents, poking a bear with a stick and then systematically losing the entire empire it had built up for the past two decades in the space of four years.

>>122549867
I meant to type peasants and threat but my fingers are retarded.

>>122549867
>disregarding how back and forth the pacific theatre naval air force arms race was
If Japan had the materials they need to fight the war they started the US would've been in a sticky situation.

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>>122550135
>if japan had

Stop right there anon, I've already heard enough.

>>122550135
You can't outproduce the US.
Even if Japan magically wasn't a resource starved Island nation and properlly prepared for a war prior, it would still have lost to a war economy US in the long run.

>>122550351
In the long run, absolutely, especially with the advent of nuclear capabilities, but it would've dragged out the war a while longer.

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>tfw you forget low low on your aircraft your guns are placed

>>122550419
It really wouldn't have. If the US didn't end it Russia would have. Japan was more fucked than Germany was.

>>122550135
>if

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Floats above T1 literally when?

>>122550970
hopefully never, unless they're placed in sub-trees

>>122551158
Why don't you want the Sea Dart, anon? Or the SR.A/1? Or the E16A? Or the H8K?

>>122551440
They'll be overtiered funplanes, acting as nothing but roadbumps.

actually fuck it, I'm tier v in all nations, bring it on. SR.A/1 looks cool.

>>122551553
>Sea Dart
>overtiered
>4x20mm cannons
>1,325 kmph
I'm afraid I don't understand how it could possibly be overtiered, anon.

>>122551649
>sea dart
>afterburner
they'll never do it
i wish they would, because afterburners would be cool as fuck, but apparently they are op

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>>122551649
>It flew only as a prototype, and never entered production.

>>122551864
>implying gaijin care about that

>>122551864
sounds like the perfect plane for war thunder

>>122551864
>A7M
>Ki-43 with 20mm cannons
>J7W
>Ki-200
>fucking R2Y2
How about you suck my dick.

So that is where our money gone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-QBqT9RQAM

>>122551838
They were supposed to use afterburning engines, but they weren't ready in time so they used other non-afterburning engines. It would be fine on that front, but they'll still never do it.

>>122551960
>this [other cancerous tumour] justifies the existence of [the cancerous tumour i want to exist]
eat shit burgerboo

>>122552010
>our money

it's gaijins money the minute you complete the transaction

Think before opening your wallet you fucking abortion.

>>122552038
From what I can tell, the testbed engines could still afterburn. With that said, I could be wrong as fuck

Also I don't want prototypes in the game fuck, I wish they'd take every single sneaky bullshit model out
then again I also wish they'd make it so instead of having a tech tree you would get individual conflicts and unlock most of the planes for that given battle at once, but i guess i'll just have to make a game like that

>>122552083
>plane that flew doesn't have more of a right to be in the game than the three variants of the plane that was never even built

>>122535264
These maps are a joke. Gaijin has no clue what they're doing.

>>122552181
I would literally prefer the MOBA maps from WoT rather than the shit we have now. At least that stuff is balanced.

>>122552163
Normally wikipedia will note thrust with and without afterburner on planes that have them, but I guess they just didn't get around to it for the Sea Dart.

I guess that dream is dead for good, which is a shame because it sat comfortably inside the WT timeline.

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>>122552315
>tfw all cool planes used afterburners

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>>122552538
>draken
please no I've already fapped today

>>122552538
Why does WT have to dominate it's incredibly niche market. Surely other developers have noticed by now how successful a middleground between a simulator and arcade flight game has been, right? I want modern dogfights and shit that don't require me to learn the specific startup sequence of my aircraft for three hours, or fly something that closer represents a UFO than an actual aircraft.

>>122552538
Because airplane designers who knew what they were doing (not Yakovlev or Gloster) used jet engines with afterburners.

Also,
>sweden

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>>122552894
>implying there was anything wrong with cold war sweden

>>122552695
I fucking know, it seems like a great idea to hop in with a bit more realism but nobody does it.

>>122552695
>other developers have noticed by now how successful a middleground between a simulator and arcade flight game has been, right?
>Sim queue can take over an hour
>realistic matches are mixed as often as not in tiers 1 and 5
>more and more focus on arcade mode

>tfw I'd rather have a pvp airplane game where you buy an airframe, equip its engine/gun hardpoints, etc
>tfw I don't like mecha so MWO is a no-go and Elite Dangerous is meh-tier, at least until the next update comes

>>122553229
Just wait for Star Citizen, coming out in [Current year] + 2 years!

>>122553792
>tfw I lived long enough to see Falcon BMS 4.33 and DCS 1.5 open beta

Star Citizen is going to be easy.

>>122553792
Space is alright, but I'd still prefer a prop/jet game.

>>122553874
I'm only kidding, I know it'll probably come out soon enough. I've already got a copy, but I'm pretending the game is still in actual development and I can't play it until it's actually released.

>>122553919
The biggest problem I have with space dogfight games is that nose position is essentially free.

>>122554039
The biggest problem I have with space dogfight games is the necessary suspension of belief, desu.

>>122554039
Star Citizen has G loc while Elite Dangerous has fantasy turn speed restrictions that essentially make it like flying an aeroplane anyways. I do see your point however.

>>122554156
>>122554102
That said I loved Free Alleg. Shame people don't play ded games.

>>122514557
Did you damage him? His only excuse would be he was repairing or switching crews.

>>122515573
I think it was even flatter before. God I miss it ;_;

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>FLSPS

>>122515573
does mozdok still have that one spot in the middle where one team has good terrain advantage

>>122554694
they turned it into a fucking hamlet now ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>122554862
I like the little house clusters from a visual perspective. Do people who actually tank not like it?

>>122554924
Loathe it is probably an understatement. They turned yet another authentic map into a close quarters brawl. If you compare the current Mozdok with the version from one year ago, you'd have to conclude it's a different map althogether now. It's a fucking shame as well, as it was one of the best realistic maps. It becomes even more obvious when you look at the SB version. Nice rolling hills with open fields and then it suddenly turns into this convoluted hilly mess with random objects placed everywhere.

>>122555129

>posted from my Nazibunker

>>122555153
>implying

>>122555129
Everyone says the change to close quarters map is "russian bias", but honestly it's just that it's so much faster to get into action. Gaijin are basically making the maps more casual so that players can charge straight into the action seconds from spawning.

>>122548389

You can outmaneuver him, just pretend you're flying a Zero and he's in a P-51. You have the advantage of having more ammo as well as more consistent weapon damage.

>>122555458
>not wanting to climb a hill for altitude advantage to boom and zoom enemy tanks

>>122555497
It was Sim and I died instantly.

>>122555458

Russian tanks are better at close range.

>>122555551
So are American tanks, considering their pen values are garbage, especially for their t3 heavies, which is where the grind gets atrocious.

>>122555547

You're going to have fun trying to fly slower Japanese planes against HARD TO USE P-51D30s, then.

>>122555551
That is irrelevant, because the whole "Russian bias" argument is that Gaijin does these things because they benefit Russian tanks. All I'm saying is it's clear Gaijin is just trying to turn ground forces into a fast paced tank game, not favouring one nation.


Also literally everyone other than Tiger drivers hate Kursk, so don't try and say "oh but they never make long range maps for Germans". That map sucks and that kind of map layout sucks.

>>122555760
There is literally no reason to use jap naval planes when you could use Ki-43s and N1Ks instead.

>>122555843

>Not wanting to spade every plane

Moreover, the N1K is a Navy aircraft, just land-based.

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>>122556830

>>122556908
Technically he's right. The N1K started as a sub-par navy floatplane, then they removed the floats and it was great, and by the time it was being fielded it didn't matter so much that they couldn't launch it off carriers.

>>122556908

The Japanese Army and Navy had different aircraft for just about everything, even transport aircraft. The N1K, though land-based, was used by the Navy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_military_aircraft_designation_systems#Short_system

Yesterday I was arguing with an anon tht the Sherman M4 tank was the shittiest tank in the war.


Was I right and more importantly why do you believe its a viable tank?

>>122552936
>There is a smiling sun on the sun-dial above the entrance.

kek

>>122558060
are you just disregarding the zillions of shitty light tanks and tankettes that were in the war

>>122555778
I love Kursk and I hate nazibunkers. Now what?

>>122558259
What do you mean?
I'm just saying that the sherman was the least efficient and had the worst fire power.

When compared to a Panzer V or a T-34 the sherman is an absolute joke

>>122558060
It doesn't have a great track record in tank vs tank warfare, but that doesn't matter when it's a quantity over quality vehicle. Almost fifty thousand shermans were built and that beats less than two thousand assorted tigers any day of the week.

>>122558060

Absolutely not.

You will not find a more reliable and easily maintained WWII tank.

When introduced in 1942, it had better armour than any other medium tank, and better armour than any heavy tank beside the Tiger. The gun was also better than any other standard issue medium tank gun, the KwK 40 was better, but not commonplace at that point.

The comparisons of "it's not as strong as a Panther/heavy tank!" are ridiculous. There was a short period where Shermans didn't fare so well against Germans, after which the German tank forces were basically entirely destroyed and Shermans were upgunned. No-one cares about Soviet tanks getting absolutely rekt for most of the war, or British tanks getting rekt between 1941 and 42. It's just a few weeks of Shermans having difficulty that completely dominates the perception.

The only advantage of any T-34 over it is the cost of manufacture. Panzer IVs were outdated shit. Panther is a 50 ton tank with serious shortcomings. Comet is perhaps comparable, but different, to an Easy 8 Sherman.

Not even American.

>>122555551
Only at some tiers. And to be more specific, only the early T34s. Impressive as they are armorwise at T5, APDS and HEATFS make short work of any form of protection at that tier. Of course, since most people are traumatized by the the 3.3 slav teams, they've internalized that mindset and project it on every other slav tier. T4 Slavs for example have the worst 'close combat' capabilities. But really, every tank sucks at close range. That's why doctrine actively calls for them avoiding cities or other ambush rich environments.

>>122558605
But thats impossible how does a 75mm gun penetrate a tiger armor?

This is why soviets resorted to 85mm T-34 on their way from Russian fields to Germany.

You talk about record, but thats the thing. US army never had to defend itself againt blitz assaults from the panzer armies.

So how exactly can anyone vouch for Sherman's quality?
PIV were only meant to stomp on the earliest medium tanks.
Panzer V and Tigers are the real thing.

>>122558527
the panzer v was purpose built to confront other armor so comparing a generalist design like the initial sherman will of course make the sherman look poor, a better comparison is in the pz4, which began its life carry stubby howitzer cannons until receiving upgrades

the soviets considered the sherman approximately equivalent to their t-34s and used them as such when they received some in lend lease.

its poor reputation stems from the usa's neglect in upgrading its primary armament prior to engaging in land war in europe, as the soviets had done with adding the 85mm to their t-34s and the germans in adding long 75mm to their pz4s thanks to their experience in armor engagements with one another. when the mistake was realized, shermans were equipped with and carried improved guns adequately.

>>122558993

It can penetrate the sides and rear.

>US army never had to defend itself againt blitz assaults from the panzer armies

Which were done by Pz IIs, Pz 38/5ts, and a small number of Pz IIIs and howitzer armed Pz IVs.

>>122558993
By flanking it. By getting lucky against shitty cast armor. By waiting for some P-47s.

Tanks didn't just park on a hill a few miles away from each other and plink away until one gave up and got bored like every single match of Kursk.

>>122559091
The latest attempts in the easter fronts were done by Tigers and elephants

>>122559238

Which failed miserably.

>>122558437
Your opinions are trash, nothing I can do to help that.

>>122558979
This really. It's fucking annoying too, but I guess most people never progress far enough in the tree of all nations to form a more objective view of the various tanks in game.

>>122558670
OK I agree that the Sherman was not a bad tank but this right here is absolute kekery. You went from one end of the spectrum to the complete other side of it you bloody burger.

>>122558993
>Tiger
>blitz

Ok now THAT'S fucking hilarious.

>Trying the 410 in SB
>Had a great time vs P-38s
>Slav hits me with a couple of shvak rounds, turns tail section yellow
>Plane transforms from twin-engine heavy fighter to a fucking windmill

What the fuck is this shit

>>122559605
How?
Please explain.

>>122559782
"a couple" of shvak rounds would probably make most of your tail air, but the models in this game can't show that

>>122559782
Have you tried playing a Wildcat? A little elevator damage and you're done.

>>122559542

What is better?

>>122556908
Every plane in the Navy line that isn't the A6M is a landbased interceptor.

what the fuck happened to bombers? I can't hit for shit anymore from high alt

>>122561076
realism senpai

>>122559883
The only thing a Tiger is going to be blitzing is through German mechanics.

>Try WT again for first time in ages
>Nothing but dogshit small maps for tanks
>T34's dominate on those

Fun

>>122561271
>muh realistic 2km sniping battles
>what was that about 800m engagement distance? nonsense

How the fuck does one play 3.7 burger tanks? The shermans are dogshit and M10 is the only thing thats good, but it has so bad speed and turret traverse.

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>>122561498

how to fly the B-57?

>>122561498
I've had a lot of success in the Chaffee. That, a p47, and whatever as a backup tank makes for a good lineup.

>>122561769
By being an asshole.

Don't want to fly like an asshole and climb into space? Don't fly B-57.

>2,3k RP from destroying 11 tanks and 5 assists

Lol ok

>>122561808
Chaffee's pretty shit compared to the locust.

>>122561769
Pray Mig-15bis-senpai doesn't notice you. That's really all there is.

>>122561823
Who climbs into space on a turretless aircraft?

>>122562483
That so? I have no clue really. I seem to do well in it.

>>122562483
La-15 can also easily catch B57 since the last patch.

>>122562615
Staying away from the top predators and not overheating is really all there is. It's a pretty basic plane. Once you get the B then you get to deal with the bomb bay rotation delay, which is a pain, but once you have all the rockets it's a monster in GF.

>>122562782
I really haven't had a problem with anything but MiG-15s and Hunters this patch.

>>122562548
nobody

it can't even go that high

>>122562863
Probably because the La-15 hasn't been good long enough for people to realize it yet. It had its maneuverability improved, and wing-rip speed raised to 945kph. The problem of it wanting to accelerate beyond the wing-rip speed is still there, but now you barely have to touch on it to be able to outrun most of what you face.

P80 is actually pretty good when you get a few upgrades in it

>>122563859
against fair opposition, definitely
>tfw it will never again have a battlerating below 7

>>122564118
it is also pretty fun and also good looking