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IT LIVES edition

It Died >>122307414

>DLC Info (Out 24/11/2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/bloodborne-ps4/the-old-hunters-dlc/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel & Deal Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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Fuck you micolash
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>finally land Chicago for bloodtwink build
>doesn't line up with the bandolier on Hunter's Garb
>floats on hip
>clips into arm

great
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>>122429623

90% of most shit clips with everything. Even Charred Hunters set clips with itself.
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>>122429623
>600x337

I can't see any of the stuff you're complaining about.
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9 DAYS

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BB is long dead now fellas, maybe the expasion will somehow bring BB back to life? I sure hope its a big one....
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>>122430845
bb is alive and well, bbg is just quiet right now
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>>122431170
>was making a BoM build but lost momentum when I realized I chose a class that wastes almost 10 points
I had to restart. Can't deal with that level of inefficiency.
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>mfw realizing I could slap electrical tape over that horrible glowing abomination on my PS4 controller
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Is there another game made by From that is like the chalices? Or more of a dungeon crawler?
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>>122431936
Look up Shadow Tower. It's available on PSN.
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>>122432010
will do
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>>122432010
that looks way too spooky for me
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Charred hunters set is one of the worst things I've ever seen when it comes to clipping, it's fucking horrendous.
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>>122431569
Anon! You have shown me the light! I must do this immediately.
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why the long neck /bbg/?
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HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS 8 DAYS
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>>122432798
If the good hunter were to turn into a beast, it would definitely a beastly incarnation of a llama.
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>Taurus Demon could fall off the roof
>Martyr Lolparryme can't

I think I figured out who's behind the B-team meme, he insinuated it and he's been fucking with us ever since.
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>>122433360

Loran Darkbeast can fly.
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>>122433360
I think it would be stupid for Logarius to fall of a ledge since he can levitate pretty well.
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>>122433360
logarius can fly tho
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>>122433238
>llamas
>beast patients are 50% neck
>large ones grab you and spit in your face

Of course! It all makes sense now!
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>>122433671
Amelia has a pretty serious neck too
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>>122433605
Yeah I feel like the flying attacks were added once they realized Gwyn on a roof would just jump off all the time.

Still is there any boss that can defeat itself through some fluke like that?

Obviously excluding using visceral attacks to thrown enemies out of the map.
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>>122434152
Not a fluke, but Ebrietas' star barrier slowly damages her while it's active. If you leave her alone after 50% hp, she'll eventually kill herself.
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>>122434152
No, even when the chalice dungeon boss room has a massive pit in the middle of it they put up invisible walls to prevent suicide.
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>>122431335
How did you fuck up so bad?
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>>122434152
Pthumerian Descendant sometimes teleports to ledges and kills himself.
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>>122434383
See>>122435240 Elder teleports past the invisible walls and it's fucking hilarious
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>>122435240

Any webms of this? Never seen it happen.
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>>122435668
The webm exists, but I didn't save it unfortunately.
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What's the difference between root chalices and normal chalices?
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Best mode soon anons
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>>122436976
Normal Chalices' interiors are fixed and the same for everyone. Root chalices are randomly generated so it's different every time you enter root chalices.
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>roar in front of the doll
>run up to the garden
>run back and drop down above the messengers
>roar can be heard again

Weird audio bug huh, one time a yahar'gul hunter death cry kept replaying for me.
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>>122436976
Root chalices are the randomized ones you farm for gems and loot. Normal chalices are the ones you slog through to get root chalices.
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Quick, post character sheets, I don't care how embarrassing they may be
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>>122437460
Roar echoes are the spookiest.
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>>122437848
How is some ponce going NUHHHHHHHH spooky?
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>>122437926
>Not playing a female for cute roars

kek
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>>122437992
>Went with mature voice
>Roar sounds like a 40 year old housewife demanding her husband takes out the trash
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>>122436378
That actually happen to me once when i was coop with someone, that old duy got rekt by himself was funny as fuck.
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EVERYTHING

CLIPS
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>>122439252
I find the worst cloth clipping is with the Bone Ash Skirt. If the ash part weren't so white and there were less clippings, it would be GOAT trousers.
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So I've already made an Arc build and skl quality build. What other builds are fun that vary from these two?

STR/skl seems too similar. Is Str/Tinge a thing?
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>>122439252
My main char wears Execution Garb so I don't have this issue. It's so big it covers any possible clipping
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>>122440631
Str/blt is not a thing, unless the DLC adds a new weapon for it. Until then, the only reason to consider investing in both is a 720-800+ AR Cannon.

Str/arc with Wheel and Tonitrus is at least worth trying, if only for the novelty factor. Both are capable of stacking buffs in interesting ways, like the Tonitrus' built-in Fool's buff in trick mode, and its trick mode simply boosting damage directly instead of flipping the stats, while the Wheel switches between physical and arcane and can push its arc damage even higher with revs, and also has a built-in Poorman's buff in trick mode.

More on the pure-ish strength end, a 50str/12skl build with Claws and a Hammer is fun, and is a good candidate to use the new Saw Mill weapon and a couple skill points away from the Beast Cleaver. Don't forget 15 arcane for the best tools; a Hammer with high beasthood and a shell is no joke.

If you want to be a special snowflake, you could always consider Arc/blt and hope to whatever you worship that the pre-dlc patch fixes the Reiter so it can use its arcane scaling correctly. In the meantime, an arcane Cane and Repeating Pistol manage just fine. Stack three Oedon Writhe runes to replenish your bullets using visceral attacks, and have Nourishing radials to boost both visceral and elemental damage.
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>>122441262
>More on the pure-ish strength end, a 50str/12skl build with Claws and a Hammer is fun, and is a good candidate to use the new Saw Mill weapon and a couple skill points away from the Beast Cleaver. Don't forget 15 arcane for the best tools; a Hammer with high beasthood and a shell is no joke.

I'll start on this tonight. Seems to have several weapon choices, both fun and powerful.

Although Wheel sounds fun too.

Thanks
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There is a Crossbow and a Marvelous Chester outfit in the DLC. Hunter is even voiced by the Chester Dude but the mask is frown instead of a smirk
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>>122442196
Nice sources there m8arooni
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>>122442196
>>122442390
>final boss
>pic related reveals her face
>eyes are occluded by wax
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>>122442961
>It's Eileen
>Eileen was the Maiden in Black all along
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>>122442961
>her
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>>122442961
>he has the mask of the father
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>>122442961

Isn't that just the Cainhurst set?
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>>122443817
probably the same guy who still thinks the fuccboi of the old faggots is female
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>>122444157
>no boob space on chest piece

>>122444142
You should see an eye doctor.
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Tried to fight Rom again and ended up summoning 3 of the new NPC hunters

>Vergil - Ludwig holy blade
>Arianna - Tonitrus
>Alucard - Wheel

They all acted weirdly human, rolling around everywhere, randomly gesturing, and spinning in place.
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>>122444568
>>122444157
>she's a delicious flat
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>>122444937

Wait, what? Did we get a stealth patch?
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>>122444937
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>>122438178

Young Female roar is best roar. Although it's really more of a screech.
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Trying to get Burial Blade on my NG character. Can you still be co-op summoned into a CD with it?

If not what is the fastest chalice path to one?
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>>122445842
>>122445962

Looks like it. Go to Byrgenwerth and try and summon someone.

I mean I guess you could try anywhere but thats where I tried.
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I wish they do a patch for root chalice that instead of recreating another FRC, for example, you just have to reset your chalice and it will back to Layer 1 with newly generated labyrinths.
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>>122446458

Oh, wow, I'll have to test this out. Do I have to be offline?
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oh god why did I wait

I had all that time before but I squandered it

Only 5 days left to get a lvl 15 blood gem and kill queen yharnam. I only reached defiled chalice an hour ago after I started it at like 2. I'm bad at this game and now I'll never get the platinum theme.
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>>122446724
Have you ever had to be when summoning NPC's?

Of course not.
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So I finally got the Bloodborne Platinum trophy. When will I get my theme?
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>>122446795
you get memes now, themes later. When the DLC is released, you'll probably get it. But I think the theme is exclusive to euro accounts.
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>>122446789

Well, I don't know if they work like Gascoigne. I guess I'll just look around Byrgenwerth.
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>no quarterstaff weapon
Suffering.
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So I have a level 104 character chilling out in NG not killing the moon presence until I get the DLC and complete that. What areas can I ring my beckoning bell?

I am bored guys
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>>122447945

Try the lategame areas like Mensis.

You could even attempt to open some FRC dungeons. People in /bbg/ are usually always up for those.
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rate my build?

59/15/23/50/5/15 BL 117 Cruel Fate

Runes: 2x Clockwise Metamorphoses, 1x Counter Clockwise Metamorphosis.

Weapon: Threaded Cane main-hand, Blunderbuss and Wooden Shield off-hand.

Tools: Beast Roar

It is meant for PvP.
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I hope there's some kind of a pre-release trailer for DLC to build up even more hype.
I want to see at least a small glimpse of MLGS.
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Why is BB so much better than DaS?

It makes it even worse that any sequel to BB will be inferior mainly because it won't be as thrilling the first time through.
Kinda been there done that kinda thing.
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>>122445842
>>122446724
>>122447007
The cieling says "gullible" take a look.
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>>122448332

It's ok.

With Cruel Fate, you should have made your build more ARC-focused, as that particular origin has the most ARC compared the rest.

I, personally, would have shaved off those nine levels in VIT and kept it at 50, the hardcap. I would have put two points into STR so you could reach the softcap. SKL is fine, as is BLT. Again, with Cruel Fate, you should have made your build more ARC-focused, but that's alright.

I think it's pretty decent. Use the Empty Phantasm Shell since you have 15 ARC. It's a useful buff.

Threaded Cane a best.
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>>122448623
>only like a week left

they're probably not going to go for that much trouble
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>Experimenting with sending patients to Fauxsefka
>that dialogue she gives me about how she's going to try "old blood" next
>that toast to the discovery of "kinship"
Why is this dialogue not on fextralife or wikidot?
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>>122449082
I haven't made the build yet, it's just in the planning stages. Which origin would you use instead?

I am thinking of bringing it down from 117 to 98. I like being higher level, but 98 is OK, too. That way I will avoid 150s in Mensis, and also won't have an unfair advantage in 6cb.
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>>122435230
Oh I chose military veteran or something. Has wasted points in STR and one of the lowest starting ARC stats. It was roughly 10 wasted points because my goals were BoM/BB with weapon req str and 15 arc.
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>>122450437

Actually, after going through mugenmonkey, Cruel Fate is actually the most efficient origin for what you're trying to do.

All you need in order to get to 98 is shave off 12 levels. If you still want to use the hunter tools, you might want to take some points off of VIT or END. I'd say VIT because you can always use the clockwise runes.
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>>122450945
Thanks. I will probably go to BL 80 and use savescumming to see whether I like the build with vit, end, or strength taken out at 98.
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>>122450361
Did you record it? Post it here so we can edit it in
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>>122452046
>Did you record it?
No. What I did was visit the backdoor before even getting my directive to send her patients. After that, I left to go see her from the other side of the door to get the mission for bringing people to her. Then I left and visited the old lady and arianna and skeptical man. I sent the lady and skeptic to the clinic and arianna to the chapel. Then I went to go talk to Fauxsefka from behind the door. She was really thankful and mentioned the stuff I talked about before. Pretty telling though, I think it's full confirmation that not all blood ministration is carried out with "old blood"
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>>122449112
The hype is outrageous; I can't even bring myself to play anymore. All my characters are basically set, and I dont want to make new one until we know weapon requirements.
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>>122452186
Really? I'll do it once the DLC hits and I move on to NG+ with my ARC character when I'm grinding chunks for the MLGS. Pretty weird that neither ENB or Vat (that little thief) or even the reddit mention this.
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>>122452327
>. Pretty weird that neither ENB or Vat (that little thief) or even the reddit mention this.
Yeah, I thought that too. The dialogue in question played when she rewarded me with my insight and elixirs. I thought it was uncommon, but not unheard of, or else I would have recorded it just so I could transcribe the dialogue for you guys. But I can't find a transcript of this dialogue anywhere.
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>You can get this weapon without needing to deal with chalice dungeons by starting the fight with Gehrman or Moon Presence, then leaving and summoning a player with a Beast Claw into the Hunter's Dream.

http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Beast+Claw

Does this shit actually work? I wanted to start a new character to specifically use them, but my soul cant take grinding through the chalices again on an alt.
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>>122452504
I saw two guys test it and report results awhile back. They said it worked reliably.
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>>122452504
You'll have to go through the dungeons to get the 27.2% gems anyway.
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>>122428906/
is this camerabeast in ihyll?
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>>122452593
True, but I wanna go through them start to finish in beastie mode.

>>122452582
Awesome, time to start an alt!
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>>122452887
True, thankfully I got mind pre-SRRC patch so I could get them pretty much right after BSB, NG with beast claws is hella fun.
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>>122453648
>Never got beastclaws superearly before they patched SRRC
>Never got burial blade superearly before they patched SRRC
>Never tried out the Arcane Rifle Spear
So many lost opportunities. I hope chalice patch restores SRRC to all dungeons regardless of whether you've done them
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>Didn't make the cut of Alakdak's latest video
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>>122455126
Ha
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Any tips for a bloodtinge build? Should I go 50 blt, 25 skill or is something else recommended? Also, is Rifle Spear/Reiter worth it or do they end up just being outclassed by the chicago?
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>>122457417
I went 50 tinge 25 skill and had loads of fun. Rifle Spear and Reiter are fun sidearms but they're better off on a 50 SKL build.

For maximum fun level vit only after having 50 BLT and 25 SKL. And do Logarius early so you can get your edge katana early.
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>>122457602
Will do, thanks. I'll use the Rifle Spear until then, I've never tried it out.
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>>122457602
Question: do you have a good number of brainsucker gems? I'm pretty sure you can stack flat arcane gems onto Reiterpallasch and it'll boost the bullet damage, but I haven't tested it recently. It used to, that's for sure.
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>>122457602
Using blunderbuss against fuckshit Keeper NPC's is the best.
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Is the PvP meta level likely going to change ehen the dlc comes out?
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>>122460095
No. You'll still have the "muh sacrifices" crowd at 98 and the "¯\_(ツ)_/¯" crowd at 150 and the "fight club with too many fucking rules" crowd at 120.
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>>122460095
No. PvP meta is pretty much non-existent and it differs from group to group. Since the Souls fanboys can't deal with the game's more offensive PvP and have abandoned it in anticipation for DaS III, there's no universal meta.

But for what it's worth, 4chan and Reddit will stick to their self-imposed meta when the DLC comes.
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>>122460245
Oh I guess if there's a level-bracketed arena then the meta might change slightly, like the irrelevant 100 meta back in DkS.
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>>122458313
Not on a character than can wield the Reiter, and after farming ARC%+Flat ARC gems from them a while ago I'm not going near the fuckers again

>>122460095
Well everyone is probably going to go over their BL's to try out the different weapons before rebuilding around them.
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doll in Japanese
https://twitter.com/giwamasa/status/666097787017146369

bloodborne didn't originally have a japanese dub (neither does any other souls game as far as I know) but apparently one is coming with old hunters.
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>>122460380
That's okay mate, I'll just load up my BL200 and get back to you on that one.
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>>122460821
Weird that they're making one now. Wonder if it'll be available on the English release.
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>none of the ihyll brainsucker glyphs are bosses
Really, guys?
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Why the FUCK can't I find the arcane haze workshop tool? Is it because I deleted my lower P chalice?
I've tried a couple glyph'd lower p chalices and the arcane haze workshop tool isn't where people find it in their videos/wiki and the dungeon looks completly different.
Should I grind the materials and make the chalice again?
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>>122461386
That's because you're making root dungeons you retard. Just do a normal search for standard chalices.
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>>122461116
I'm guessing it's because of sony localization?
Bloodborne got dubbed to French, German, Italian and Spanish in the European release which none of the Bamco published games did. Also a bunch more text translations as you can see on the screenshot.
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>>122461116
Considering BB is already dubbed in most European languages, why wouldn't it be dubbed in Japanese , as well ?
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>>122460821
She sounds like some generic maid. Her english VA has a weird accent that makes her manner of speech really distinguishable and cute.

Souls games are a rare example of a GOAT english dubs overall.
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>>122462041
Technically, those aren't dubs. Normally all versions use the english voice actors, even the japanese versions. Bloodborne getting localized dubs and not just subs is highly unusual.
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>>122460821
Wow that's cringeworthy af. This'll only appeal to weabs.
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>>122462041
And DBZ too
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>>122460380
I think the answer is yes. Makes me wonder what kind of damage this would do at 50 bloodtinge with perfect arcane brainsucker gems. It unfortunately doesn't seem to gain arcane scaling.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to make a new twink.
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Time to see how shitty this ends up looking in-game.
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>>122461442
Fuck I feel like a mong now , thanks though. Finally got it and about to do defiled chalice..
>>122462647
If she had ginger hair she'd look like a typical pikey.
R8 mine nerd
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>>122462041
The German dub is pretty decent. Nothing special, but nothing cringeworthy. Here's the doll, for example (her dialogue starts at 3:48):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATFuMaB4eck
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>>122462647
>>122462725

But that's a boys haircut
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>>122462846
>not liking short haired girls
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>>122463196
See
>>122462846
Btw does anyone wanna help me run through defiled chalice? Trying to plat it before the dlc comes out and I only need the Yharnam ueen trophy.
(Guess which button on my keyboard is broken)
pw - bbg0077
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>>122462845
Do you have a link to German Micolash ?
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>>122463359
12:50

https://youtu.be/F2T5haAb1jY?t=12m50s
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>>122463505
oh gawd he sounds like a dying seal
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>>122463505
>>122463591
More like dying rat oh my fucking god I can't breathe

English VA is so much superior
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>>122463591

>Auuuugghhhhoooooooooooooooooo

I'm dead
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>>122463505
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>>122452504
>I wanted to start a new character to specifically use them, but my soul cant take grinding through the chalices again on an alt.

Let's see, either you get through enough to kill BSB, go straight to CD's and do less than half of what it takes to get top-tier gems, or you go through the entire game to summon someone that has them.

Unless you can get whatever version from who you summon, giving you the uncanny, it doesn't sound worth it. I'd go through the CD's and get the shitty version to +9 through the actual game, not to mention you'll get good gems along the way.

>>122460095
If I can't use lots of what I want to, I'm probably going to bump my shit to 120. I'm tired of only fighting faggots in Mensis anyway, not to mention the extra vit would be nice since I capped at 42.

Meta's be damned.
I also was a huge pusher for 98 if that means anything.

>>122463591
I can't wait to plug my headphones in when I'm able to.
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>>122463335
pls responnd
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>>122464196
I'll ring at SRRC, gimme a few minutes to turn my ps4 on
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>>122464182
Two things, matey:

1) summoning someone for them only gets you the regular one, regardless of which kind they're using

2) the regular one IS the superior one, due to lack of a waning slot
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>>122464330
Sweet bro
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>>122464368
Alright, searching now
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What are the best gems for my edgy bloodcrow cosplay guys ?
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>>122464596
Noice. Have some 50 cent shenanigans while you wait
https://instagram.com/p/-H4mZqML6H/
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>>122464642
Bloodtinge gems, of course. Farm bloodlickers for more off-shape gems relative to the area.
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>>122464642
Bolt
The fuck do you think nigga
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>>122464642
>EDGY

Fire, because your character comes from Hell. He likes flames and staying up all night and he can stay up all night because his dad isn't the boss of him.
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>>122464642
Depends on your level.
I've made mine BLT build on BL74 with 40/40 vit/blt and i'd rather have a 400 AR normal mode katana and slightly weaker BLT mode katana than a stronger tricked mode but no damage on normal one, so i went with three 27.2%.
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>>122464689
>>122464642
Just go for two 27.2% physical radials and a 31.5% blood circle
Getting a single blood radial is literally a 0.66% chance, and that's not even factoring in getting a usable curse
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>>122464962
Bloodlickers drop off-shape bloodtinge gems more often than other enemies. Ihyll lickers give radials more, Isz give triangles more, etc.

It's not that bad.
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I have
>50 vit
>50 arcane
>12 skill
And the rest are base stats , should I use another 10 for 20 strength then stay at BL 99?
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>>122465164

Why not just get more endurance? the damage from 10 points in str won't be that much if you're doing an arc build.
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I want to make a vlad the implier build so fucking bad
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>>122465220
>wheel isn't worth it
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>>122465220
The damage from using an entire new weapon might be worth it.
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>>122465220
For the 4chan speshul sekrit wheel build you mong
Also I feel like base vit + vit rune is more than enough for me
>>122465262
>>122465292
So it's worth it yeah?
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>>122465561
There isn't much reason not to if you don't wanna go 99arc, and it's the only weapon with buffable arcane damage if that's your thing.
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I seriously hope that ignition hammer is good.
If it has a high damage in tricked mode then it can potentially make a 1hko weapon with oil urns.
>>
Patch notes tomorrow.
If we're good :^)
>明日11月17日(火)夜9時30分よりニコニコ生放送番組をお送りします。DLCやアップデート情報を中心にお届けします。よろしければ、ご覧くださ
>We will send you a smile live program from 9:30 tomorrow November 17 ( Tuesday) night . It will deliver around the DLC and updates information . If you are good , and refer

>>122464362
>the regular one IS the superior one, due to lack of a waning slot
Yeah, you're right.
My point of time and using the weapon throughout your playthrough stands though.

>>122465164
Wheel is totes worth it.
I've got 89 arc and base stats for Wheel at BL98, and it's not worth it since everything 1-shots so it's best to stay back and Tool spam, but with 50 vit you're good.
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>>122442961
Obviously it's a mask with a big ass collar.
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>>122466136

>If you are good
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>>122466149
>mfw his weapon will end up as a bloodtinge counterpart of MLGS
>mfw it will be called a dark slayer
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>>122466290
I'm not looking forward to another sword bloodtinge weapon, but I'll take anything. Really keeping my fingers crossed that we get something that can do some crazy blood shit, like the Queen Yharnam fight.
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Threaded Cane is a lot weaker than I remember it being.
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>>122466107
What times do you usually invade? I want to run into people that are dumb enough to walk into oil urns
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>each rev of the wheel costs 1%hp/sec stacking, rounded down
>totals are rounded down, and less than one becomes zero

According to my calculations, a wheel build with 10 vit can get three revs with no hp loss while invading or cooping in cursed chalice dungeons.
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>>122466382
Just invade outside of dueling spots, coopers are ALWAYS retarded and just waiting for a chance to get killed by the most mundane shit ever even on high levels.
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>>122466457
Yes, that sounds completely worth it for a slow weapon like the wheel.
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>>122466136
>>122466025
Time to start stacking souls then. What's the best variant of it?
Also does anyone wanna help with defiled amy? PW - bbg0077
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>>122466569
Uncanny
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Speaking of Uncanny/Lost stuff, how do you think the new weapons will incorporate those versions? Will we just get Uncanny/Lost dlc weapons in the chalices after the patch? Hopefully we'll just be able to fucking buy them.
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>>122467082
Sweet what about saw spear?
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>>122467197
What if they just don't? Imagine finally getting your hands on burial cleaver only to realize it's stuck with a waning slot.
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>>122467275
Lost for delicious elemental saw spear.

>>122467292
I'd be pretty pissed. I'm still irritated that they all look the same; some minor cosmetic differences would have been extremely welcome.
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>>122467275
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Who made pic related?
If you're here, spoiler your PSN or whatever name you go around as? I want to make sure some fag isn't taking credit if you give a shit.
You can email [email protected] if you don't want to post your information. The name I'm seeing is rocksolid######

>>122466457
I can confirm that, with 10 vit, I still lose health.
I'll make 100% sure when I get home today as I'm >>122466136.
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>>122467513
>good if you get bolt%/+flat bolt because ______________
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>>122466290
>MFW it's just a chikago reskin you get when you pre-order the dlc
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>>122467275
>>122467513
>>122467637
:^)
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>>122467332
>>122467513
Nice.
>dat pic
Christ on the cross. Is there a full version by any chance?
Actually I think I remember some dude here posting his weapons and it had all this info annotated on , does anyone have that pic?
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>>122467637
It's because the extra damage on the +flat is higher than what you'd lose from the slightly weaker %bolt.
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>>122467513
Forgot to mention, I don't think that glyph for abhorrent works or maybe I'm fucking retarded and couldn't trick my brain into entering the glyph correctly
I used 6q77zr9h

>>122467637
Because you're a big stinkin homo
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>>122467776
see>>122467708
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>>122467851
see>>you're mum
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>>122467898
I'm mum? I'm mum. Everyone call me mum
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>>122468019
Your__ new
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>Do You Rike It?
Do You Rike It?
______Well?____
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>>122468159
Yes, perfect if you want to host in nightmares.
But if you can, go down to 140 as they can invade 120.
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>>122467521
Is that 10 vit without runes, while in a cursed dungeon?
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>>122468159
>>122468256
Just looked up summon range for 98's and it's up to 137, so I'd lose damage for co-op.
Guess I'll get to 39 Vit.

I can't deal with this 10 vit anymore.
Think staying at 89 arc is worth it for 49 vit?
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>>122468278
>without runes
Without hp runes, yes. I run around with 25 vials and 29 bullets since everything would 1-shot anyway.
I have 286 hp.

I'll check when I'm off work and reply to your original post. It'll be a while.
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>>122468325
>39 Vit.
>past BL100
ahahaha nope
go down to 89 arc, you will keep 90% of your tool damage, even more if tools are softcapping on 70 arc like ACB
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>>122468325
If it makes any difference, that build should perform just fine in BL150 pvp. Those morons actually think arcane isn't viable.
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>>122468436
I'm already at 89 arc.
This is my current build, I just want to still be able to help in co-op, but I'm tired of everyone just backstepping in PvP until ______ and L2'ing me once for a kill.

It was just supposed to be a gimmicky retarded build and kill time for the DLC, but it's just frustrating. I was helping with an FRC HBLB the other day and its flying blood spike attack killed me, which doesn't do shit for damage, the 2nd spike or something.

>>122468461
This is true. I feel like 120 is going to be the meta after the DLC because people are going to want to adjust their builds without making a new character the exact same way and not lose hundreds of hours of progress.
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>>122466136

So hyped right now.
>>
SRRC invasions are hot right now.
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>>122468436
>>122468736
How most PvP fights go:
>trick Wheel and spin once (don't lose hp)
>Bloodbullet and heal
>OHB and Exgloves once or twice
>dash R1 like a madman while dodging when appropriate (leaving my vial run out for stam rune, I get 3 dash R1's and one dodge until 0 stam)
>if all else fails, ExGlove and then ACB
>opponent wasn't retarded still
>out of bullets
>dash R1 until I get hit in the back from ~20 feet away because lol latency issues

It's not every case, but at least half of the fights.

I'd work on farming gems for my Saw Spear and Tonitrus and whatever, but if I can't get the HP for it to matter, then I don't see the point in wasting my time.
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>>122468983

Whats OHB?
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>>122468461
BL150 babies are fucking horrible, it's mostly bom dashers, r1 spammers or ds2 spinners thinking that this thing works in bb. Invading and hosting at 140 generally feels easy as shit, given that my build is 50/50 quality with immense damage output.
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>>122469112
THIS. FUCKING. GUY.
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>>122468958
Level?
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>>122469112

Was I the only one who spun in ds2 just because I liked to play unlocked in ds1 and preferred to have my thumb moving when waiting to do a move? It's not my fault From are incompetent when it comes to making a non laggy as balls network.
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>>122469178
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>>122469065
Old Hunter's Bone
Animu dash

>>122469112
You think 150's are bad?
I was at 240 (duping for Vileblood Regsiter that got deleted anyway) and didn't even have 19.8%'s and won most of the fights.
Stats were 50 everything, 40 end.

They were laughably bad, not to mention most were invading me.

also holy fucking shit lol fucking saved
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>>122469212
98

I got stunlocked to death twice now.
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>>122469341
>he fucking left
Please tell me you messaged his bitch ass or he messaged you.
Holy fuck
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>>122469341
and then he just leaves
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>>122469501
I've killed him during the next invasion and after that he invaded and left ONE MORE TIME.
Haven't seen him ever since and it was already like a month ago.

Seriously, if you want to see the finest retard fest the game has to offer, make a high level build and host or invade in nightmares, attacking on sight. It makes them mad as fuck because someone ain't following their honor meta.
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>>122469675

>Eileen

I will never not be triggered by bad cosplay
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>>122469675
>It makes them mad as fuck because someone ain't following their honor meta.
Good, fuck them. I attack every single fuck that bows, no matter the level, it's an invasion.
Fuck them in the first place for doing it to me any time I ever returned it.
>>
I kinda want to start a replay on a new character and get myself to Rom or wherever the midpoint is to be prepared but I'm too worried I might fuck myself out of a sick weapon by picking the wrong stats. Why the shit was there no respec item in this game, anyway?
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I want a laughing gesture to make people bad.
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>>122469797
Most of the cosplays i see in BB are fucking hilariously bad.
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>>122469878
>new character and get myself to Rom or wherever the midpoint is to be prepared
Why do you guys do this to yourselves?
It's going to be accessible after a point in the game, yes, but you can go to it any time after that, I'm sure.

I've got all my characters in NG, and it's a good thing, because now I can get on my 19.8%'s go there, finish the awesomeness, then NG+ and do it again even harder with the same gems.

I just hope there is at least a Blood Rock to get so I'm not fucking myself extra by missing it.
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>>122470039
>Trying to cosplay in a game with very few outfits

It never ends well.
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>>122469849
>>
Am I the only one who doesnt like the hunters tools? On most of my builds i wont even go to 15 but even with the ones i did i barely use the tools. one old bone at the start and maybe one glove during battle is all i ever done.
Maybe the dlc is going to insert some interesting one because right now i wont find them worthwhile
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>>122470218

I only use the gloves and call beyond to finish off bosses. The rest of the tools are pretty shitty.
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>>122470162
Nigga you need to chill. Just throw a pebble or numbing mist when they bow.
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>>122470218
I use them only on my arc build, the rest are either at 10 arc to use the Wheel or less.
I'd prefer more damage or hp over animu dodges to be honest (to be honest).

>>122470162
Good, fuck him. Too bad it wasn't a kill.
I never use the cannon anymore, I should give this a shot.
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>>122470546
DID SOMEONE SAID CHILL?
THIS IS HOW I FUCKING CHILL
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>>122460326
>abandoned BB in anticipation for BB 1.5 with 100 nearly identical greatswords and no guns
oh the irony
>>
Whats the best radials I can get for arcane gems?
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>>122466136
The patch notes are apparently in less than 9 hours.
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Ok fags I want to go crazy and destroy everyone in pvp like a mindless beast and let their blood rain down on me. Cannon seems appropriate but what weapons should I use besides Beast Claws?
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>>122472015
Fuark, nevermind. 21 hours.
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>>122472108
Memeblade duh
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>>122472015
Yeah, that's when 9:30 japan time is. But they're saying 9:30 at night which would imply they mean 21:30. Not sure why they would write it like that, though.
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>>122472108
>I want to destroy everyone in pvp
>cannon and beast claws

choose one
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>>122472015
GET FUCKING HYPE
>>122472158
GET FUCKING HYPE LATER

>>122471489
27.2% off-shape drops if you try hard enough.
The best you can probably hope for are Phys%/+flat-arc if you don't want to farm for countless hours.
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>>122471489
You could always just farm Nourishing, too. You can get those easily from Rom or Amygdala, if Amy appears in Ihyll.
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Gonna try defiled amy again , anyone down?
PW - bbg0077
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>>122472490
I'll try that. Better than trying for lucky off gems
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>>122472573

Give me a second. Turning on PS4 now.
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>>122472573

Ringing. Time to die a million times.
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>>122472573
I'll try
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>>122472853
>>122473012
>>122473072

Cool i'll ring at the lamp
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>>122473098

Short Root Chalice is not finding anything. I already typed the password.
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>>122473305
Well one guy has joined me so far , i'll give it another couple mins before we start.
You sure you typed in the right pw?
bbg0077
no caps
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>>122473305
It takes a few minutes. I'm already with him. Waiting for #2
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>>122473391

Oh boy I am retarded. I had it set to local for some reason. Ringing again. Pass bbg0078
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>>122470162
>His name was friendship
>he bowed to you
>you BMA cannon him
he just wanted to be your friend
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>>122473602

0077 I mean. Small mobile device big fingers.
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>>122473602
>>122473697

I kucked ya. Sorry m8.
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>>122473668
Picture unrelated?
That fucker is the most nasty guy out of all of them. Some weird beggar who wants to take advantage of woman deservers no respect
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>>122473697
Yay us
>>
kek slapped amy's shit on first attempt , thanks a ton guys.
>>
>trying a blt build after an arc build
Holy shit this is dull. And I can't even get the Lost Chikage until the end of the game?

Please DLC, save me with some decent weapons. I'm for sure not good enough with this build to make it through Defiled on mu own.
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>>122474240
It doesn't get better. Chikage builds are boring as fuck, playing as or fighting.
I quit mine at BL50, and I even had the Lost version from SRRC'ing pre-1.05.
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>>122474387
I wish I had done that. Honestly I'm willing to get good, but I fucking hate that the version of the weapon that I actually want to upgrade is at the end, so I have to waste all my chunks on a lesser version to get there.

At least I was able to SRRC the Beast Claws before it was patched out.
>>
>>122469112
That webm is hilarious
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>>122474582
If you think about it, you're not really wasting chunks since you get enough to +9 3 weapons in the main game, not to mention the ones you get from bosses while you'll be going through the CD's to get the Lost version.
>+9 normal chikage, evelyn, _____
>chunks from CD's to +9 lost chikage
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>>122473780

Its okay as long as the other hunter and wasnt black.
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>>122474851
I'm an aryan
>>
Hey, guys, is Arcane worth it or nah?
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>>122475086
yes, one of the most fun builds
>>
Question to those with "blunderbully" builds:

Why do you use the blunderbuss rather than Ludwig's Rifle? I thought that one was better due to having even more range.
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>>122475016
why do you cosplay food mascots?
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>>122475620
It's almost like you want to get hit in the gabber
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>>122475620
kek
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So the edge blade has quality stat requirements but only Str scaling?
>>
>>122469112

Who won?
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>>122475261
For damage, after 33 blt, blunderbuss out damages the ludwig
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>>122476969

I see. I've got 50, so this should be fun! Thanks.
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>>122476969
How does it stack against evelyn and repeater?
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>>122477329
At 50 BLT, evelyn is 300 AR, repeater is 336 AR and blunderbuss is 83 AR. While ludwig is 78 AR. That said, blunderbuss can do crazy damage as seen thru here>>122457602
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>>122477706
How so? Is each individual part of the scattershot 83 AR?
>>
Would any of you anons happen to know any FRC glyphs with Undead Giants? Preferably an Ihyll or an Isz glyph since I need them in radial/triangle form.

I'm surprised adept gem farming glyphs aren't actually in the OP.
>>
>>122477780
nah just the shot itself, but could be individual parts of the spread since its damage varies depending how close you are to the enemy compared to the pistol/eve where its damage is the same wherever you are
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>>122478443
ye that's what I meant, pretty interesting
>>
How do I savescum? I am new to this.
>>
>>122479702
back up your save data
do something sketchy
copy backed up data to system
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>die to Watchers 3 times

That's enough for today
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>>122480575
i can help bb
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>Cursed Bolt Gem of Electric Thunder Lightning God
>Add Fire ATK +30
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>>122480631
lol its cool I've killed them at least 100 times in the past, just not feeling it today. Thanks tho
>>
>make super cute waifu on friends PS4
>copy save data on usb stick
>can't import it onto my Ps4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZuzw2TCNSU
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>>122481049
You can't?
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>>122481049
Surely you saved the template and can just look at the numbers right?
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>>122481191
Ps4 says there is no save data on the stick. However I can see the fucking data on PC.
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So what's wheel 101? Trick , rev once , slap shit?
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>>122481708
Spam dash attack and flee if someone swaps to full choir set.
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>>122481708

>Step 1: Dash + R1
>repeat step 1
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>>122481795
You haven't seriously used wheel/arc wheel. You're just parroting.
>>
>tfw fire atk +18% radial gem just dropped
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>>122481281
Ask him to screenshot each page of the sliders.
If you didn't save it on his shit, take your USB back over there, upload, screenshot yours yourself, and then do it on your PS4.

>>122481795
obligatory

>>122481968
Outside of a CD? 'Cause you can get 23.1% fire radials from NPC hunters, avoiding FRC Hotdog if he's an issue.

>>122481708
Str or Arc?
I prefer Str, as you barely lose damage when tricked and you get the full moveset.
Kirkhammer outdamages Wheel for Str builds, but I feel it's better for PvP.
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>>122481968
>perfect fire gem
>on a quality build
this game sometimes
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>>122482797
Shut the fuck up Benjie.
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>>122482797
>>122482797
http://psnprofiles.com/trophies/3431-Bloodborne/DesecratedFlame
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>>122482850
Shut the fuck up, Loranon.
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>>122483054
No.
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>>122482850
>>122482867
You two should date so you can gtfo of here.
It's a win/win.
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Holy shit this thing is satisfying

https://youtu.be/veK9L8V3-Ro
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I just realized TOH releases 2 days before thanksgiving for a lot of /bbg/, you guys gonna rustle up one of these for the big day?
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>>122482850
>muh hatred for no reason
>>122482867
>muh giving a shit about what other people think

Holy shit you guys are fucking annoying.
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>>122483413
>American Thanksgiving
I'll never be able to understand it. November is such a shitty time to have a holiday. Thanksgiving Dinner is just the prequel for Christmas dinner.

>>122483505
>no reason
Benjie is such a god damn attention whore that he actively attacks advice given by others so that he can push his own methods and infographics.

He only helps people for an egostroke. He wants that egostroke badly enough to attack other contributors and helpers.
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>>122483634
>He doesn't even like thanksgiving
Man I knew your opinions have been shit but this confirms that everything you say is retarded and unreasonably bitter
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>>122483634
>he actively attacks advice
>He only helps people for an egostroke
I help because I'm bored.
I also have never attacked advice. Prove it, faggot.
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>>122483634
>Benjie is such a god damn attention whore that he actively attacks advice given by others so that he can push his own methods and infographics.
Nah, doesn't happen.
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>>122483952
Oh I like Thanksgiving. I just think having it in November is absurd.

>>122483995
>I also have never attacked advice.
Yes you did.
>Prove it, faggot.
I don't need to. You openly admitted to doing it less than 2 weeks ago. You tried to justify it by saying you were "fucking around" or some other flimsy excuse.
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>>122483634
why did you post a picture of liam nieson
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>>122484020
But it did. I'm not sitting here telling lies. I'm reminding the community of who he is.
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>>122484187
He's gay, don'cha know?
Loves that Nieson cock
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>>122484295
No, you're offering your own misguided opinion and getting shot down, then choosing to see that as you 'reminding' a group of people of the before mentioned baseless nonsense. It's sad.
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>>122484165
>I just think having it in November is absurd.
Yes, we should also celebrate Independence day some day that is completely irrelevant, like in March or something.
July is too hot, I don't care if some old dudes, like BENJAMIN FRANKLIN signed some stupid paper.

>I didn't
>yes you did
>prove it
>no, I don't have to
lol
Never change, retard.
I did no such thing. This is an anonymous board, after all. I'll trip if you promise to filter me.
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>>122484426
>Yes, we should also celebrate Independence day some day that is completely irrelevant, like in March or something.
Or maybe you could just put a small buffer between your major family dinner holidays.
>I did no such thing.
Yes you did. It's a shame that foolz exploded or else I could bury you in evidence.
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>>122484295
Benji seems like a cool guy, helpful, and doesn't afraid of anything.
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>>122484423
>misguided
It's a fact. He's denying it, but I'm not sitting here making shit up. I posted advice for Defiled Hotdog and he specifically attacked mine while encouraging people to use his infographic. I called him out on it a couple weeks ago and he brushed it off saying he was shitposting for fun or whatever else.

This happened. It's a fact.
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>>122484527
>I hate family
What a deep-seeded anger you must have to project this hard onto other humans who aren't even related to you.

>yes you did
Solid argument, touche, ol' buddy.
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>>122484659
>it's a fact because I say so!
ok
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>>122484726
>What a deep-seeded anger you must have to project this hard onto other humans who aren't even related to you.
I don't mind family in the slightest. Again, I like Thanksgiving, I just think the date Americans celebrate it on is assbackwards.
>Solid argument, touche, ol' buddy.
Backpedal all you want. We both know the truth.
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>>122484527
Changing the dates of holidays that have been a tradition for ages is just retarded

>>122484616
He's just fantastic
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>>122484659
>He specifically attacked mine

Look at the language you use when discussing yourself, you delicate little snowflake you. I don't doubt for a second something that inconsequential happened, I'm guessing he was bored and wanted to hash it out, why would it be a personal thing? Even if it was, who would give a shit? Argue your case then. Jesus christ, really?
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>>122484659
How long are you going to keep this up?
Why not keep this shit Bloodborne related?
You say you hate circlejerks, but then you go and derail the thread almost every time you post with namefagging.

>>122484847
>BENJIE DICKSUCKER 2200-BOT
I'm getting a divorce for you, no matter the cost.
>>
Alrighty /bgg/ , only 3 bosses left till I get my plat.
Who's free?
PW - bbg0077
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>>122484165
>being this mad for being useless to /bbg/ and coop to anybody

Benji knows his shit while you're being a pathetic envious faggot who wants to be the only attention whore.
>>
[spoilers] Are we gonna post NEET nests on the 24th?
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>>122484847
>Changing the dates of holidays that have been a tradition for ages is just retarded
You could just choose a non-retarded date the first time. That's what my country did.

>>122484930
>I'm guessing he was bored and wanted to hash it out, why would it be a personal thing?
It wasn't personal. It was about his ego initially. Not me. I made it personal by taking serious offence to his behavior.
> wanted to hash it out
He specifically urged the user who wanted help to ignore my advice and only use his.
> Even if it was, who would give a shit?
I give a shit because Benjie wants to pretend he's some sort of good Samaritan.
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>>122485048
this desu
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>>122484996
I got a hot minute for it, yeah
What's your BL? I don't want to get downscaled for bring a character a little out of your range
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>>122485048
>Benji knows his shit
Benjie doesn't know anything aside from his dumb KirkPellet strat. I've thrashed him in every fightclub I've attended.

>>122485048
>the only attention whore.
I don't want attention. If I did, I'd have adopted a name and tripcode by now.
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so ive been using my little brothers ps4 to play bloodborne all the time but now i´m getting one myself because he uses his a lot as well

my question is,can i transfer savegames from one ps4 to another if i use the same psn id? dont want my 27% gem burial blade waifu to be rip
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>>122485187
bl 99
Fighting HMPH HPMH. Ringing at lamp m9
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>>122485085
and hheerree coooomes the zebraposting

>It wasn't personal. It was about his ego initially. Not me. I made it personal by taking serious offence to his behavior.

You shouldn't have to read that back more than once to spot the errors
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>>122485238
PSN id?
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>>122485260
Yeah it works if it's the same psn id, a fool proof way would be uploading your data to the ps+ cloud but a usb is fine

>>122485301
Glyph? Would be faster than srrcing into the chalice
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>>122484996
You gave up on HMPH already?

>>122485071
Once TOH comes out, I probably won't post for a good week, at least until I've done everything in it.

>>122485085
legs r ez-r than hed to be honest family

>>122485238
> I've thrashed him in every fightclub I've attended.
Prove it :^)_____(^:

>>122485260
Unsure, now. See >>122481049 & >>122481281
>same psn id
Oh, yeah, but why would you want to? You couldn't play online at the same time, and if one of your PS4's is the 'main' one, you can have 1 PS+ for the account, and not have to pay more for another, but both will have PS+ access.
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>>122485505
ive made my own psn id on my brothers ps4 for bloodborne luckily so i might be fine
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>>122485238
>Thinking FC's here are competitive
It's just for fucking about and having fun while killing eachother, I don't think anyone here takes it seriously except you
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>>122485487
p3wic3e
>>122485505
Haven't given up perse , i'm just kinda thirsty for my plat kek
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>>122485505
>Prove it
I don't have to. I know your username. I know I whooped you soundly.

>legs r ez-r than hed to be honest family
Yup. There goes the facade.

>>122485671
>It's just for fucking about and having fun while killing each other
No. That's not what duels are about. Fightclubs are for serious battling.
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>>122485671
tell that to the rosmarinus memers
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>>122485751
>No dungeons found
Did you forget to open it?
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>>122485791
>he takes FCs seriously
>'serious battling'
hahaha
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>>122485868
Oh fuck my q button is broke sorry
glyph - p3wic3qe
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>>122485810
But familia... I am a rosy memer
Shit's just for fun, competition is for the actual tourneys

>>122485791
Duels are more competitive man, bbg fightclubs here are just for fucking about
For actually competing there's a tourney coming up if you want to test your worth against others or whatever but nobody cares in FC's as far as I know
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Anyone want to farm some easy bosses for gems and chunks? I'm talking pwmf, or we could run through ptwrx6tb if you need rocks. I could do with some company to break the monotony.
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>>122485791
>It's just for fucking about and having fun while killing each other
*tips fedora*
But honestly, FCs are created for fun and more interaction between participants in this board (sometimes with the FB and Reddit demographic). FCs are the only thing that keep this board from becoming into something that is solely comprised of asinine bickering--as fun as that sounds.

Also, what's with all the Thanksgiving crap? I'm not of European descent and we didn't steal other race's land. What's the big deal?
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>>122486284
Canadians celebrate it in early October. Americans do it in late November.

That's all.
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>>122485649
I don't have my PS4 in front of me, so I can't tell you exactly how (but there are videos), but make sure his account is the 'Master' PS4 or whatever it's called. You can find it under settings.

>>122485751
>Haven't given up perse
I get that. A little secret? I got my plat on my first guy, who was BL240 ;)
I solo'd the CD's, but it was a lot easier, but I don't think I had any good gems, just the 18% you find and 15% atk up.

>>122485791
>yes huh
>nuh uh
>yes huh
>nuh uh
This works both ways, idiot.

I've beaten you every time, and you've never beaten me. Prove me otherwise.
I even beat you without gems and using fists only, while you said you were trying your hardest.

>>122486214
>competition is for the actual tourneys
Fuck, I haven't posted that for a few days.
12 have signed up, which is ok with me since we're doing doubles it looks like, so it's going to take a long time
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>>122486214
but there's nothing fun about rosmarinus
all people ever do is sprit it about to avoid losing. where's the fun in that? it's just as annoying as gunspam.
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>>122486108
Completely forgot that most of my characters don't have the requirements for it because I srrc glitched my way in for most of them
I'll have to use my shitter build that I still don't know how to play properly but I unlocked the chalice on that one, so bear with me
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>>122485791
>making poorly excuses
>attending to prove a single person that his opinions are facts just because he say so
>taking FC this much seriously

You were never meant to be part of BB community because of your utter retarded nature
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>>122486269
>>122486269
sounds like sumfin i could be interested in
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/bbg/ PRE-DLC TOURNAMENT

>WHEN?
Starting Friday, November 20th at 7pm EST and continuing as needed the following days.

>WHERE?
To be determined, but probably a Non-FRC Isz one of us can make since the last took place in Loran. If you would like, create an Isz CD and submit the glyph, to be listed, to [email protected] or ragincajunnugz on the PSN. Keep in mind: little or no enemies, a messenger bath, and open-closed glyph.

>RULES
Same as Fight Club, but a few changes:
- Host will be neutral and streaming, so no one needs to Blood Bullet
- All gems acceptable
- Best 2/3 (semi-finals will be best of 5, Finals will be best of 7)
- BL 120 cap (those who feel the need on a lower than 120, when facing a 120 as your opponent, may savescum, level up, and then fight)
- There will be no complaints of lag. If you believe lag is the cause of your loss, take it like a man.
- After a character has been selected to participate, there will be no changing once the Tournament has started.
- Rules subject to change, stay updated.

>SIGN UPS
Message ragincajunnugz on the PSN or email [email protected] with your Character name and Blood Level.

>PRIZE
Winner will receive, by choice, either a $20 PSN or the Bloodborne DLC, The Old Hunters.
Delivery of prize pending region locking.

Last date for sign-up is Thursday, November 19th.

Voting (voting to be final Nov. 17th):
Healing - http://strawpoll.me/5849318
Restrictions - http://strawpoll.me/5849344
Type of Tourny - http://strawpoll.me/5849411

Last Tournament: https://youtu.be/GepsJFnlLqw

I may have forgotten something and I am open to suggestions, so either reply to this post or the above PSN/Email with ideas or information.
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>>122486428
heh
>>122486474
np m9
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>>122486428
>This works both ways, idiot.
No it doesn't. I know what I know. Nothing you say can change the fact that I know I'm telling the truth.
>I even beat you without gems and using fists only, while you said you were trying your hardest.
Wow, your fragile little ego gettin' wounded again?
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>>122486382
It's stupid that an argument had to stem just from that. You all get turkey. It's a win win.

>>122486269
Sucks that the build I'm using now and the one I'm particularly interested and very invested in is still in Isz. Hoping next time we could farm gems. It's 3AM here and I'll be off to bed soon and won't be able to blaze through Isz to join you in any FRCs. Good luck with the gems, la familia
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>>122486512
Come to pwmf22gu and we can farm watchers if u want

>3 '27.2% + HP depletes -9' in a row earlier
>3 chunks over around 20 runs

I got mad
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>>122486651
By the way, anyone have a better resolution on this image?

This was the biggest I could find, and it's almost twice as big as the one I had before it.
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>>122486715
>It's stupid that an argument had to stem just from that.
It didn't. I just mentioned my preferences. It was a completely secondary aspect of this argument.
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>>122486443
Are you kidding? It's fucking hilarious
though personally I don't think it's worse than gunspam, rosy is only viable and annoying when the other person is at low health, if you try to use it for actual damage you'll just get your shit kicked in while gunspamming can easily kill someone from full health no issue
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>>122486651
>120 cap

fug I forgot about that
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>>122486716
cumin bb
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>>122486474
Ringing m9
If anyone wants to join the pw is bbg0077
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>>122486862
nah man gunspam can be dodged. with rosmarinus there's no chance of getting in through i-frames and it's basically a sealed deal that you'll win once you pull it out.
also
>that saw spear
truly you are the king of memes
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>>122486716
which bell m80
>>
So tomorrow is the day we can download the dlc, right?
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>>122487153
Go beckoning, pw 1212bbg
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>>122486714
>I made it personal by taking serious offence

>your fragile ego gettin' wounded again?

ayy lmao

>>122486715
>You all get turkey. It's a win win.
>implying turkey is the meat of choice

>>122486907
There is only one person at BL120, and I didn't want to exclude him since it's his only character.
Apologies in advance for any miscommunication.

>>122486862
[spoiler[you fucking monster i am literally so triggered right now im shaking like im in my workspace and people are looking probably wondering what is wrong with that nutcase well you created me why would you do this to me you are literally raping me right now[/spoiler[
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>>122487216

I wish. Tomorrow is just a stream event with patch notes and more info on the DLC.
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>>122487257
ranging at lamp pw was already set to that for some reason
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>>122487257
>>122478079
We blunt farming tonight or sometime before the tourny!? m90's?
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>>122487392
No, you can predownload it.
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>>122486907
Is 120 that bad?
I still don't understand the issue with savescumming and going back to 98 after the fight or for the whole thing.
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>>122486862
Watching people get sprit to death is more gut-wrenching than watching cows in a slaughterhouse.

>>122487298
The implication that turkey is the meat of choice came from the american shows I've seen on TV. We don't have it here, but we do get super crispy pork bellies for Christmas and New Years Eve, which is pretty GOAT.
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>>122487452
I want blunt gems but i dont know if I can handle fighting undead hitbox again and again he's my worst boss


>>122487572
No I just forgot about it, gonna have to farm and decide what character to level up etc etc.

I'm probably gonna go 120 every character depending on what happens with DLC
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Shut the fuck up about Turkey already when everyone knows Macaroni is where is at.
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>>122487587
>Turkey meat
It's actually goat: tastes good, super healthy, can be substituted for other meats that are normally bad for you, etc.
I like turkey bacon better than regular bacon

>>122487880
>blunts
It takes forever, but we'll be good if we even get a scythe variant we'll just trade aggro and attacks.

>120
I'm doing the same, especially if I can't use some weapons.
I mainly can't wait to just give it a few days after TOH comes out and tear shit up on my twink.
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>>122487587
Well slaughterhouses are very tame actually, there's a lot that goes into making the animals as comfortable as possible before their demise, respect your food and keep humane

This on the other hand is pure sadism
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>>122488257
It's like a B-tier smut movie clip

I found the most effective way to deal with spritting is to gun spam and wait for the spritter to get near you and just go all out on the offensive. That's better than dying like a terrified animal, I guess.
>>
Who is the best pvp player here?
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>>122488465
>Terrified animal
What are you, a hippy? I mean I can't blame you for getting that idea because most people who haven't done work in the field don't know what's going on there but they're really not as bad as you think
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>>122488257
that was my friend you bullied there!
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>>122488901

Bengi
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>>122488965
It's a simile. I love meat as much as the next guy, and the meat I love is not the phallic kind

>>122488901
Nobody. Although, Buscemi won the previous tournament, that doesn't account for anything since not everybody participated in the tourney. I do enjoy watching dris fight, though..
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>>122489172
>dris
But isn't he the guy that just unzips his Chikage all night?
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>>122488901
nyarlko and _____me______
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>>122488901
Any Australian with a blunderbuss.
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>>122489256
He's got the spacing with the Chikage down. He's pretty decent with it.
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>>122489010
And I'll bully him again just you watch me
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>>122489473
>He's pretty decent with it
no
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>>122489497
He died like Megaman
>>
>9:30 PM (In Japan) there will be a live show that will have gameplay and will be revealed information about the patch and DLC.

This is tomorrow! We might have The League by this weekend!!!!
>>
>>122489473
If you think decent is spamming the unzip attack then yeah he's excellent.
>>
>>122489497

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgT-IOPxk-k
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>>122488901
Me, everyone else is a pussy. I'll prove it in the next FC too if you want to step up and get your heiny caved in
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>>122489497
STOP IT
>>122489597
kek
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>>122489617
>9:30 PM (In Japan)
>Japan time

Thats today here then at 8pm.
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>>122489772
would you care to tell us who you are?
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>>122489541
>>122489638

Of all the Chikage users I've fought, he's the most competent. With the BoM, he's not have bad. Relies on executioner's gloves a lot. Nothing fancy.

>>122489772
I'd rather you register for the tourney and watch me beat you into a bloody pulp...kid...
>>
Can't we all just get along?
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>>122490056
the fact that you know the kinds of responses that comment will generate should constitute shitposting
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>>122489968
>With the BoM, he's not have bad
more like youre not half good if youre getting beat by him
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>>122490056
disparity between opinions and the bickering that comes with it fuel this board, so of course we can't. If we got along, we'd be reddit.
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>>122489824
No because then people will pick on me just know that by the end of the night you will have been thoroughly thrashed by a superior player
>>
>>122490224
You can get along and be respectful without needing to be a hivemind hug box.
>>
Will the League leaderboards have rewards?
>>
http://www.examiner.com/article/gecco-corp-announces-bloodborne-arms-collection

So now your figure can be OP too!
>>
Time for the final boss lads. Then it's PLATINUM!
Anyone wanna join me? PW-bbg0077
>>
>>122490282
it sounds like you dont even have the game
>>
Guys, will Chapel bro stop talking to me if I kill Arianna's baby?
I love him so much ;_;
>>
>>122490739
I don't follow

Just like in PvP - I don't follow. I lead. No Fear.
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>>122491065

He will hate you forever. He will stop talking to you, pretend you are not there and talk shit about you behind your back.
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>>122491126
What you just said was literally gayer than all the gascan posting combined
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>>122490613
FUCK YES
DID IT
SHOUT OUT TO MANILOW
>>
>>122469320
Not at all, friend. Been doing that since DeS
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>>122469675
Axe is the perfect weapon for bullying. That L2 is its best move
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>>122491126
welp now im sure you dont have it
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>>122491283
How is the weather in second place? You either walk away with respect, or you just walk away. There is no second place, just win and lose. No Fear.
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>>122491301
Oh man, people are thanking me by name, time for Loranon to hate me like a drunk founding father
Was glad to help m8
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>>122491478
What makes you think that, do i need to include a fact about the game in every post? Seriously, what's leading you to that conclusion?
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>>122491483
Calm down dude, I almost got a papercut on your edge
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>>122491301
grats lad
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>>122491614
>continues to shamelessly attentionwhore and draw out his conflict with loranon
I don't know why you haven't figured it out yet. The only winning move is not to play. Stop contributing.
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>>122489087
I didn't post this

>>122489541
I think so, he usually fucks my shit up.

>>122490342
Who knows? Probably will be a huge fucking dupe-fest again, though. I'm still very upset about that.

>>122491301
>man knees low
Holy shit
You bend them to pick berries
fuuuuuuuuck

>>122492003
That wasn't me, either.
Maybe I really should trip?
Does your IP matter, or is it a password? I've never attempted it, and when I looked recently, the FAQ was kind of confusing.
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>>122491646
>I'm not giving my name, I-I'll just keep kicking your ass anonymously
All I'm getting from all of your posts is BWUACK BWUAAAAACK BWUAACK

Since you're dense as a brick I'll spell it out for you, you're a chicken
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>>122492157
Well am I a coward or do I not own the game? Either way you're going down like me on ur mum at next FC
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>>122492085
Pls don't use a trip Benjie. Stay with us
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>>122492231
I repeat dense as a brick, you're not chicken for not owning a game and you keep saying you do own it
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>>122492345
Keep repeating another term and using it incorrectly, that doesn't surprise me given your history with spouting unrelated nonsense. Read your last post back for crying out loud. Which, coincidentally, is what ur mum will be doing next time we meet and what you will be doing when i punch your face in FC
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>>122492157
>getting baited this hard
I know this isn't /v/, but really?

>>122492296
I wouldn't even know where to start, anyway.
Plus, after TOH comes out, we shoot the shit for a while, I'll probably stop posting here. I already have the better part of 1,000 hours, and even in DeS I only had a few hundred.

I think WoW is the only game I put this much time into. This is going to be bittersweet as fuck but I'll keep you fags added.
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>>122492085
Just because he's too retarded to sniff out samefagging correctly doesn't mean you should use a trip
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>>122492085
>>man knees low
What? Is this some ebin general meme/drama thing?
Dude is p chill , I wonder why all general threads devolve into this sorta malarky
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>>122492852
I don't think the joke about the name was supposed to be hurtful, rahgginkajunnugs knows better than that
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>>122492852
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>>122488901
This one dude that always uses the Blindfold cap and the axe. Never won a match against him
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>>122492852
>barry manilow
>mans knees are low
>berries to be picked
>bend knees to lower
>careberry's knees are low man
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>>122493181
>Barry
I'm fucking triggered man, the name without the bear pun is just a singer
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>>122493181
Beary-mans Heblows
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Damn, patch notes tomorrow. Finally I will get to know if they will nerf my beloved Flat Arcane Wheel and Chikage. Hopefully that does not come to pass.
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So I'm on my first run of this game. Just got done with healing church workshop.

How much insight is too much insight?
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>>122495648
No such thing as too many eyes awooo
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>>122495648
13
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>>122495713

Shit, I'm already at 22. I don't even know what this shit does other than make the giant dude who grabs you cathedral ward a bit more visible.
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>>122433360
gargoyles cant fall off the roof

check mate athiests
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>>122495497
If they're going to do that shit then they might as well nerf the kirk and ludwig because otherwise the game its going to be imbalance and unplayable. I can understand the wheel but the chikage? Come on...
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>>122442196
chester already voices djura
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>>122494631
It hurts
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>>122448838
because the combat and animations arent trash
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>>122495817
He's yanking your foreskin, there's no good or bad amount. It's your humanity, if you've played Souls games
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>>122496408

I've only played Demon's Souls, which had world tendency. This seems a ton different though.
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>>122496632
Oh, well you can use insight to summon and buy a few things later on
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Anyone know how big the expansion download size is gonna be?
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>>122488901
Kobra easily
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>>122496730
Having more insight also makes the game harder.
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>was thinking that the only thing BB lacks setting-wise is some kind of a secret Freemasonry-like society
>DLC will actually add the League who look like some secret lodge with shared ideology and secrets
can't fucking wait already
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>>122496792

90gb of content.
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>>122496930
>>DLC will actually add the League who look like some secret lodge with shared ideology and secrets
the league sounds gay though
>league for faggots helping each other

fuck that dude. give us a pvp league.

you know how they could have fixed bullet spam in this game btw? it would have been so simple. just give the guns a reload animation after each shot that's punishable. there you go, fucking fixed. SHAME
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>>122488901
Kobra. Because no one record their fights. I miss old DS "frag movies"
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>>122496930
BB has secret societies out the ass, what are you talking about? If there's one thing it has a lot of it's secret societies
>>
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH KOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSHHHHHHH

KOSH KOSH KOSHM KOSH AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>122497139
>He dies to gun spam
SHAME, ITS ALL SO SIMPLE, SHAME

How about get the fuck good?
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>>122488901
Are there any youtube recordings of bb tournies, fight clubs etc? there was so much for demon's/dark souls

pls link if there are
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>>122497139
you sound like the faggot here
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Chalice Rom is the worst boss in the series. Prove me wrong.
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>>122473803
All he wants is friends. How the fuck can a blind and legless burn victim take advantage of anybody
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>>122497579
its actually easier because you can use the pillars to block the meteors
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>>122497428
>>122497572
I love how triggered 4chan nolifers get over the slightest criticism of a video game lol. If only you had better things to do than define your entire existence by bloodborne :^)

brb getting laid btw
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>>122497731
how can you be getting laid when I'm already fukkin ur girl, faggit
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>>122497731
>damage control
Kek
e
k
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>>122497731
>>122497852
and it's not his mum because im in her

I mean she has room for 2 easy but i dont smell NEET
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>>122497906
>and it's not his mum because im in her
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>>122497731
that wasn't criticism, at all.
>league sounds gaygive us a pvp league
>fix gun spam
>SHAME
if it was "criticism" he was doing it in the most faggoty way possible
>brb getting laid
> :^)
yeah okay brb getting laid
>>
Out of sheer curiosity, did anyone play Bloodborne, then play Dark Souls, then go back to Bloodborne? I dominated Bloodborne on my first playthrough, got into Dark Souls and now I'm playing Bloodborne abominably bad. I'm actually disgusting myself at how bad I'm playing. I thought I'd get better as I kept playing but I don't seem to be improving.
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>>122498163
just kill yourself family
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>>122498163
After taking a 2 month self imposed break I returned to BB to find I play way, way more or less the same
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>>122498163
Don't blame DS for your scrubness.
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>>122496871
NO
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>>122498701
YES
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>>122498336
Thanks for being honest at least.

Seems like this general has gone to shit since the last time I was here.
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>>122497702
But the space is way to reduced, so I need to kill at least a few of spiders to have room to hit it, while avoiding his spamming attacks, while avoiding other spiders that deal a lot of damage.

Fuck Rom he is the 4 kings of BB.
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>>122498840
Everyone is just hyped for the DLC and we have done everything inside out a hundred times so the thought new content could be approaching is quite literally what many of us are living for at the moment im ending myself after xmas to be honest senfam desu
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>>122497579

It just requires a different strategy. Burger Rom has enough space to run around and kill spiders. Chalice Rom has almost no space to evade spiders and the longer you take to kill him the more spiders he summons taking away space to maneuver. The strategy is to get strong enough gear to kill him on the second teleport before he keeps spawning more spiders.
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Post Bloodborne wallpapers? I'm sick of my Star Wars one.
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>>122497579
He is not the descendant. That's all the proof you need.
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>>122498490
Except I'm not, I'm just asking about other peoples' experience. If everyone said they hadn't then that's fine, but if someone said they had, identified why and overcame it with whatever they did, even better.

Not everyone who comes in asking something is a whining crybaby, stop being so defensive.
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>>122499560
>stop being so defensive.
After you.
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>>122498163
BB actually punishes you for playing like you would play DaS.
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>>122497579
Loran Darkbeast is way worse.
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>>122499673
That reply is case in point. I sure feel sorry for people who have to share a general with people like you.

>>122499774
I feel that way in terms of enemy attack cooldowns, you think you're safe compared to DaS speeds and then get slapped with someone. The safety BB offers you in healing compared to DaS is pretty nice though.
>>
I love helping scrubs get by Gascoigne. What a fun fight, and knowing they're about to get dicked hard by cathedral ward is a nice feeling.
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>>122470618
lol
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>>122470618
>not wave

wave best gesture
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What do you think the new items will be? I think beast mode is triggered by a pellet like beast pellets
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>>122499408
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>>122486651
Can we watch live if were not in it ?
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>fire cleric beast uses the network test cleric beast theme
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>>122502395
It also already is used in the main game you know
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>>122503325
What? When is that?
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>>122464182
>If I can't use lots of what I want to, I'm probably going to bump my shit to 120.

This is going to happen to my 98. Thanks, beast cleaver.

There's things to debate about the value of different metas and ranges, I guess, but I think for the individual the thing to do is just have a character at all ranges. I'll take that one 98 to 120 so I have a character in that range, make a new 98, and then I also have a 43, a 60, two 80s and a 146.

I'll probably also make a new mid-ranger for MLGS. It's always a weapon worth making a build around.

>>122501773

I'm still betting on it being a new hunter tool, another form of the Dragon Torso Stone, because that'll give you a way to use that roar they showed while you're in beast mode. Beast mode being the result of capping your beasthood is certainly possible, but it wouldn't give you a way to use that new roar animation.

>>122501820

I really want that armor set. It's fucking suave.
>>
>>122497428
>>122497572
I think reloading would be great for immersion. The animation that Gascoigne uses would be enough, just add a nice cling when a cartridge case falls on the ground and it would be great. Furthermore it would buff the Pallasch and Riflespear because you have one extra shot without reloading.
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>>122486651
I really want to do this, but I work until 10PM CST this Friday. Could I maybe just suffer a first round loss since I would be late?
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>>122498794
alright
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>>122428906
So the DLC is getting released midnight right?
I live in glorious yurop and I'm wondering when I'll be able to download it.
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>>122503634
I don't see why not, capping beasthood could be what triggers a new moveset, then you have until the meter runs out
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>>122503654
It would change the entire mechanics of the game, guns would be more pointless than they are already

>immersion

pls
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>>122489541
>>122490195
fite me rite now kid, I'll even stream it
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>>122503654
Both reloading and a stamina cost to account for the recoil would be cute
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>>122504523
>I'll even stream it
Will you even download 40 torrents on top of that? You want to make sure you have as large of a lag advantage as possible.
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>>122504523
I've already fought you
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>>122495648

99 is not enough

get red pilled
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>>122504782
no shit burger, but now it's on
I don't baseball me kid
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>>122504915
I don't accept baseball*
as a valid excuse
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>>122502395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0IoXIQxhJ4

>that slightly synthetic tone of the choir
>reminiscent of DeS
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>>122504915
>I don't baseball me kid

Oh shit its fucking on now you fucker
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>>122504356
pls respond
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>>122505220
in 6cb ringing right now goofus
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>>122505456
You can pre-download it if you preorder, it will automatically download. For the uk its normally 1:00am
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Did you farm up enough materials to upgrade the DLC weapons yet?
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>>122505573
I live in Finland so that pretty much midnight for me
fucken sweet
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>>122505525
I'm not him

but im up for a fight or two
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>>122505719
oh
well I guess if you want to, the whole point was to record burger getting his hispanic ass handed to him as he likes to leave out part two when he posts his fc video and he never saved the fights I pooped on him with the chikage for days either
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>>122505593
Got enough chunks and rocks for 2 full upgrades on 5 of my 6 characters, 4 of them have a spare rock too. Got enough for 1 full upgrade on my BT.

I reckon DLC will have loads of materials any way if past DLCs have been anything to go by, plus there's loads of new weapons
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>>122506038
This is Walls, up for a ruck or two? What are your characters called? I dunno if we have fought much in the past
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>>122505593
enough for the threaded memer and the saw mill, which is enough
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>>122505593
No, what's the best place to farm chunks ?
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>>122505593
No, I have been upgrading every weapon in the game instead on my 30/20/30/15/18/25 build.
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>>122505921
pls see
>>122506163

I goofed
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>>122506279
>30/20/30/15/18/25

What kind of build is that ?
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>>122506201
chalice bosses
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>>122506457
Any chalice/boss in particular ?
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>>122506321
ya I'll be in 6cb waitin
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>>122506456
It lets you use everything currently in the game except A Call Beyond at level 88.

At level 125 it would be able to have like 50 vit and 40 arc (to really use everything), but I am holding off on that to see if any of the DLC gear has massive stat requirements.

It's the build that I am going to take into the DLC first to so that I can try out every DLC item as soon as I find them.
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>>122506592
Depth 5 for chunks, depth 5 layer 3 and 4 for a chance at rocks
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>>122505921
here 4 u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmIvjki46wQ&ab_channel=topburger239

I thought you were dead so I unlocked
>>
Rank the weapons.

Apparently, Saw spear is top tier? What the fuck. it has shit cleave
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>>122506772
Ah ye we fight alot, I rung already
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>>122506772
t-they're all the same
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>>122506976
>messing with character creator for days
nah
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>>122506789
All right, makes sense
>>
>>122507008
>not delighting in spending an hour in character creator each time

I don't want to make any more builds but I know the new fashion guarantees i will
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>>122506976
They look cool imo
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>>122507008
>not messing with character creator for days including scale adjustment
>not playing each attempt up to your chosen attire and deleting it and starting over if it doesn't look quite right

step it up baka
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>>122507140

>Spend 9 hours creating the perfect waifu
>Start game
>Looks nothing like in the character creator
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>>122507571
>not realizing constant saving of the character and starting of the game is required in order to see them in the shadows

The secret is flatten the cheekbones
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>>122507140
>>122507564
way too much slider fussing
I prefered DD's character creator but all my arisens looked similar anyway, at least the pawns were diverse
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>>122507749
When did you play? Did you go to /ddg/?
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>>122507713
>>122507571
worth it tbreallyh
>>
>>122507749
There is no excuse for having characters in DD looking too alike. The character creator in those games was easy mode.
>>
>>122507854
lurked, mostly there for pawn pick-ups
>>
>>122508114
I had the pawn Trip back in summer 2013-early 2014, she resides eternally within in The Rift now because I sold my PS3
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>>122507987
once I found the right face shape and stuff it hurt to look uglier so I had to change eyes and hair and what not
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>>122508489
There were so many good combinations though.
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>>122508114
>>122508282
whenever I played DD and the Witcher 3 I felt like I was playing an mmo sans the multiplayer.

Open world games are overrated, Bb and DaS have it right: interconnected labyrinths>open worlds
>>
Can't figure out which weapon I should use my one blood rock for. Which is the best all-around weapon? Saw Cleaver?
>>
>>122509010
I prefer open worlds, especially in the case of DD.

>>122509104
The Axe.
>>
>>122509104
depends on your build homie
>>
>>122509104

Which one do you like the most? Which one do you see yourself using the most? What's your build?
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>>122509104
Saw cleaver
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>>122509010
I really enjoy exploring open worlds, exploring the map was one of the rare elements I really enjoyed with Witcher 3. I don't think they are better than Souls-style interconnection but I don't have a preference really. I think there's ways of making both of them in good or shitty
>>
>>122509198
Really? The axe has always seemed lackluster.

>>122509273
I have 30 in each stat and I'm going to farm it up to 50 in each stat.
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>>122509498
holy jesus man then you can upgrade whatever the fuck you want
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>>122509498
>I'm going to farm it up to 50 in each stat

He asked for your build though
>>
>>122509498
The axe is probably the best weapon in the game, especially if you pair it with the LHB.

Its move set and reach make it god tier. If you are going to have 50 str and skl, you should use the rock on LHB instead.

small LHB - speed and stunlocks on easy to stagger enemies

extended axe, reach, CC, stun potential, and knock back

large LHB - massive damage and stun locks on larger enemies
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https://twitter.com/Bloodborne_PS4

>patch notes in 14 hours
>doll's jp voice
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>>122506789
Why not just level everything to 50 then, but with 40 End?
This is probably a reason you lose fights so much.
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>>122509829
>encouraging a 50 all around stat "build"
>suggesting the LHB

You trully are an abomination Lucifer, and I'm not even gonna talk about your name. Well played
>>
>>122509948
I am not him. My builds tend to stop around level 100.
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>>122509891
Gross man, dodged a bullet there
>>
>>122510046
I am not encouraging a 50 in all stats build. He said that is what he was using. If that is what he is using then the LHB is the best weapon for him. LHB is an amazing weapon. If is the only weapon in the same tier as the Axe.
>>
>>122509498

If you're going to have 50 in each stat, you're probably going to want to use the LHB. It gets high scaling in both STR and SKL-- absolutely deadly with 50 in both.

Pair it with the buff from the Empty Phantasm Shell and you have yourself one hell of a weapon.
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>>122510195
>LHB is an amazing weapon
>only weapon in the same tier as the Axe

Yeah for scrubs like you maybe
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>>122510327
So you even know what "scrub" means? It seems like you are just the typical retard that uses it as a generic term for "someone I don't like."
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>>122510465
:^)
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>>122510571
>Papier de feu

Frenchies playing BB?

Seems appropriate.
>>
What build should I start making for the dlc?

I already have a Skill one w/BB min Str, a Str Hammer one, a Chikage build and an Arc build with min stats for the Memeblade.

Any ideas other than quality?
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>>122510942
Preparing to remove kebab with swords and gunz
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>>122511110

Str/arc? Wheel n' Deal.
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>>122511197
Go Arc/str

Dat moonlight blade...it HAS to be Arc/str, right?
>>
>>122511197
I was thinking about that, but I want something in anticipation for the new weapons.
Some of you might know their stat requirements and stuff
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>>122511320

Probably just arc/arc.

>>122511347

We only know a few. It's pretty close now, so if that's a concern I think it's smarter to just wait.
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holy shit this looks cool
>>
>>122511347
New threaded cleaver is 15str/15skl
Don't remember the bow stats, but it was skill based. It's all we know
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>>122511347
So far there's 2 that scale similar to hammer, though you need 15 skill for one of them, and one that scales with skill
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What does /bbg/ think about burial blade? I just got it from killing that hunter guy and it seems alright. Weak scaling and awkward moveset but it looks cool.
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>>122511681
It looks really cool. I should do a skill build, but I rarely see people using it in pvp tho
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>>122511402
Ideally, I'd like to have an appropriate build with some story progression so I can get on the new content fairly quickly.
Waiting wouldn't be a problem if they released a physical limited edition in the west, since I'd buy that and have to wait for it to ship anyway. But apparently they don't want our money.
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>>122511462
>this looks cool
it does...
so,
what is it?

I cant speak moonstuffs
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>>122511781
it was just for the japan showfloor thingy that showed th DLC footage for bloodborne
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>>122511681
good for skill, better for PvE than PvP ut good fun all around
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>tfw too afraid to be overleveled for DLC so trudging through the chalices as level 30

I really need to get better at this game...
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>>122511749
u blind m8

Skill has excellent weapons for PvP
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>>122512009
I'm doing the DLC on base NG as a str build at like level 70 or so, and then as a fully leveled 100+ character on NG+

Base NG seems pretty nice for a first time.

You could just always do a quick run to the DLC when its out, so you're not overlevelled at all. But really, its not a huge concern.
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>>122512068
I was talking about BB, rarely see people with it. There are more using BoM or Reiter
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Fuck guys there's like 7 days left
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>>122512202
Ah ye true
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How's the Reiterpallasch? Never see anyone talk about it or use it. Low tier weapon?
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>>122512380
Top tier PvP weapon
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>>122512380
>never seen anyone talk about it or use it
its tricked form is top tier if used right, but it's also gay as fuck and for shielding babbies
the untricked has some decent moves but overall the tricked is superior because the gun tracking isn't as wonky from the r2 as opposed to the trick and you can stunlock with the r1 combo and catch dashes easier as it's a fast sweep
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>>122511681

It's feels awesome. The transforming attacks are wonderful.
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Anyone up for Cainhurst coop? I just need help with Logarius. BL39, pass is bbgbl39
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>9:11
PATCH NOTES WHEN?
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>>122512854
where you ringin son, I'll be there
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>>122513362
Right outside the boss gate, thank you!
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>>122513398
bullied
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>>122510049
I know, I was asking you.
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>>122513207
In a little while man
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>>122511462
I've warmed up to the red knight armor since i've seen it front on, from the side it looked like they were giving it a skeleton face, now it looks awesome.
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>>122512190
>>122512009
Now you're making me want to do it on my bl60 NG QTY build first instead of my mains. They're tricked out with gems but they're on NG++++ too.

fug
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Happening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLKBMIi7fE&f
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>>122515312
not happening
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>>122515312
what
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>>122515312
>all those fucking jump cuts
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>>122515312
>strange eldritch language
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Never seen this move before in like 20-30 fights
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>>122515024

Does it have that stupid crown on the back of it in the game too?
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>>122516123
It will, but crown prongs a cool because you're a lord of cinder
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Hows the Chikage atm? Haven't played for roughly 4 months but I remember it being pretty solid.

Also is there a pvp weapon tier list?
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>>122515312
Nice try, but that isn't the DLC.
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>>122516632
Its damage can get utterly ridiculous, but the moveset is trash. Damage is irrelevant when you can't hit people or are easy to parry.
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>>122452186
Late but my guess is that Celestial Emmissary is a kin to the Great Ones beckoned by Iosefka or whatever after Ebrietas went into mourning and became a useless fat bitch, and she's experimenting with this new strain of ay lmao blood.
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>>122517001
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/orphanage-key

"Key to the Orphanage, birthplace of the Choir.

The Orphanage, shadowed by the Grand Cathedral, was a
place of scholarship and experimentation, where young
orphans became potent unseen thinkers for the Healing
Church.

The Choir, that would later split from the Healing Church,
was a creation of the Orphanage."

This is the key that leads to Celestial Emissary.
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>>122516946
So I'm guessing skill is the way to go for pvp? I had a reiterpallasch/bom/bb build (pretty much full skill) and it was very strong.
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>>122517223
>where young orphans became potent unseen thinkers for the Healing Church

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FUCK

can't mean the celestial babies because they're dumb baby seals
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>>122517523
Probably means the blue alien fucks. We already know humans can be made into those (courtesy of Iosefka), and they're what's behind the door that key unlocks.
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>>122517607
hey yeah, and little people are in the garden in the expansion trailer
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>>122516946
>moveset is trash
sad but sorta true
it has some solid moves though, the r2 has a wide sweep and the r1 followups after the initial slow r1 are solid, but the transform attack is super telegraphed and the l2 combo is absolute shit (especially since the initial hit is thrust, not blood)
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>>122518043
>(especially since the initial hit is thrust, not blood)
that explains alot
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>>122509104
Hunter Axe or Saw Cleaver hold equal claim to that title. I'd argue it goes to the axe though, it's moveset is fucking PERFECT.
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>>122505593

I got 20 chunks today. I think I will use the bow first.
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Was the real Iosefka a high ranking member of the church gone rogue? She had to have been related to the Healing Church somehow, if she was refining Old Blood.
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patch notes where
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What determines on what you are going to turn into? Was looking at all the different beasts and got curious. Is it insanity, madness, strength or the amount of insight?
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>>122518981

Tomorrow at 8pm
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>>122519119
>tomorrow at 8pm
says where nigga
that stream happened like an hour ago where the fuck are the patch notes
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>>122518990
The game doesn't explain what determines it, if anything does at all. Miyazaki implies that a person's own resistance to transformation determines the size and grotesqueness of the beast they become: the greater your resistance, the greater the backlash when it finally breaks. As to the specific type of beast when that transformation happens, not a clue.

>>122519196
What stream?
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>>122519196

Oh shit you are right. I thought it was 15th today.
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>>122518990
It's mindset. Those who act without knowledge and lose themselves to mindless thirst for blood devolve into "beastly idiocy" and become the beasts they're acting like. The attire and weapons of a hunter aren't just for defense and offense -- form and style were considered important to keep one's humanity in check and prevent them from devolving into mindless beasts (hence why some hunters rocked fancy hats and the threaded cane, and why clothes have such a big impact on your Beasthood stat)
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>>122519748

Wow thats cool as fuck.
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>>122518990
>>122519748
It's been stated many times that the holier or more virtuous the person, the more hideous the beast they turn into
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>Ringaginding to help with Father Gascoigne
>Find some folks
>We're thrashing him
>1/3rd
>Gascoigne does his explosion transformation
>There are two Gascoignes
>One human one just standing and his beast version who begins its normal attack routines
>Attacking the beast body has no effect, though its able to hurt me
>Attacking his immobile human body hurts him

>Another attempt
>Same thing happens
>This time his human body is slowly sliding along the ground
>Slides up to the wall at the side of the arena
>It suddenly flies straight up and out of sight at sanic speed

Mfw both times
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>no patch notes
>no stream
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>>122520045
WEBMS

>>122520119
It's today at 9:30 nippon time, still got about 11 hours
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>>122520028
Or more likely those "holy and virtuous" people were members of the church who had greater insight and knowledge into Yharnam's secrets and thus could resist turning into a beast for far longer than most others, making their transformation have more backlash.
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Hey faggots

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv241918855

Starts in 10 hour(s) 48 minute(s).

You can go to sleep and watch it in the morning.
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>>122519748
>>122520239
Which is completely backwards to how it works in-game. The higher your insight, the lower your beasthood and the weaker you are when using temporary transformation. The lower your insight, the higher your beasthood and the stronger you get with temporary transformation.
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>>122520239
Nah, read the interviews. It specifically says holy
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>>122520335
>have to work tomorrow
Fuck, and I've called in sick too many times this month. I trust you guys to spoil the shit out of me when I get back.
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>>122520416
Insight is not the same as humanity/knowledge
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>>122520239
>were members of the church who had greater insight and knowledge into Yharnam's secrets and thus could resist turning into a beast for far longer than most others, making their transformation have more backlash.

Nah mang. Church assholes use more blood. They have more eldritch monster blood in their bodies, so they turn into the most inhuman freaks when the moon goes all cheeky breeky.
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>data miners will be figuring out the scaling of new weapons for sunday/monday

its happenddnnin
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>>122520416
>the higher your insight the more resistant you are to beast transformation
Doesn't seem backward to me.
>>122520427
I think "holy" has a different meaning when applied to members of the Healing Church. Their blood saints aren't exactly saintly, after all.
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>>122520591
Insight is literally your amount of eldritch knowledge, you can read it in the stat screen. Humanity isn't even a stat in this game, and considering the top hat gives very little beasthood resistance I imagine the hunters who lived by that code weren't doing themselves any good.
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>>122520723
It's not used differently in the context of the 2 interviews
>>122520727
Sorry I should've specified, not humanity in terms of a stat, just humanity. If you want to look at it like that 'eldritch knowledge' is different to 'knowledge' or sanity
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>>122520723
Beasthood is treated as a status resistance by the game. The longer the meter, the greater your resistance. The way Miyazaki describes it also sounds exactly like a status resistance.

How would having a shorter meter mean you resist something more? We already know having less resistance against going beast means you turn into a weaker one, and having lower beasthood means your damage cap is lower when using temporary transformation. Hence, a weaker beast.
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>>122520727
>considering the top hat gives very little beasthood resistance
It's not a resistance stat. The higher the number the closer you are to being a beast, so the top hat giving very little Beast shows that it works.

>>122521027
>"The higher this attribute, the closer you are to beasthood when temporary transformed."
It's a temporary transformation, not a full on one. Having a higher beasthood stat means you're closer to embracing your beasthood. Filling the beasthood meter does nothing by itself unless you hit one of the breakpoints. It's not a measure of resistance, it's a measure of upper limit.
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>>122520723
>>122520727
Here ya go
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>>122521530
fake
miyamoto doesn't even speak english
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>>122521660
mitsubishi typed that out himself m8
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>>122447945
Just go into ng+, game is only a few hours long when u know it
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>>122521787
>implying you were there when toyota wrote that out
nice try mate
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>>122521787

Pretty sure Chaoxiang Huiliang just talks and the interviewer types it.
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>>122521378
>The higher this attribute, the closer you are to beasthood when temporary transformed.
That's actually a slight mistranslation. When translated directly, "The higher this attribute" is not referring to the number but to filling the meter itself. This is the reason why it took so long for us to figure out what beasthood did, but in japan they knew how it worked right away: their game literally told them how it worked in the beast claw, pellet, and beasthood descriptions, whereas ours replaced what was supposed to be an explanation of beasthood with lore fluff. Example: a more direct translation of the final two lines on Beast Claw reads "Beasthood rises with every backsplash of blood from the wounds you carve and flesh you tear.
This might bring its user ever-growing power and pleasure, if continued."

Secondly, check your stat screen. Beasthood is grouped with the resistance stats. Why?

Third: clothing gives poison resistance, rapid poison resistance, frenzy resistance, and beasthood. Why does it give beasthood, along with the resistances?

Fourth: you can cure beasthood buildup by drinking a sedative. Antidotes cure poison and rapid poison, while sedatives cure frenzy and beasthood.

Fifth: It's written in the fucking instruction manual, dude.
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These bone ash hunters never drop arcane radials, what the fuck.
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>>122516078
Which ones? I think I've seen every animation in that webm every time I've fought him, that sounds unusual
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>>122516078

>co oping Gehrman

Not cool
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>>122522654
the combo with the fast double strike I assume, I've seen it before as well and I've only fought gehrman a few times
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>>122522432
I'm aware that it works like a resistance stat for gameplay purposes, but how does that disprove what I said about it from a lore perspective?
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>>122522526

It took me a day and a half before they dropped one. I noticed they were not dropping when I had 40 insight but did start dropping when I had 67. Dont know if it matters or it was just luck. I was farming with all 3 eye runes and 430 discovery the whole time.
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>>122516078
That's pretty common, you must have stayed far away from him all the other times.
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>from will never explain how discovery effects drop rates
pls, this shit is way too rng for me to hash out anything other than circumstancial bullshit on all sides
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>>122520696
>cheeky breeky
https://youtu.be/zh_p20lHqtA
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>>122523046

I'll try getting more insight, then. Hopefully that works.
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>>122518043
>(especially since the initial hit is thrust, not blood)

But it's a thrust with a sword that's covered in blood. That's even the part of the sword that's coated in blood, the point.
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>>122522896
Because Miyazaki is talking about the same thing.

>the urge to transform into a beast is in conflict with the basic sense of humanity we all have
>that humanity serves as a shackle, keeping the transformation in its place
>the stronger the shackle, the larger the recoil when its finally broken

He's literally talking about resistance. A person resists turning into a beast through their sense of humanity, but when that resistance crumbles they transform. Those who resist it less become smaller beasts, while those who resist it more become greater beasts.

When you can change a few words without changing the overall meaning of what is being said, the words are being used as synonyms.
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>>122523435
yeah brah believe me I know how retarded it is
nothing like landing an l2 with a hard read only for it to do like 200 damage because 800 blood damage is disregarded for your fucking meager 400 thrust ar
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Think they will add the arcane sword back for the DLC?
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>>122523809
You mean the Holy Moonlight Blade?
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>>122523809
Doubt it, but maybe? From the trailer it didn't look like anything more than a glorified lever.

>>122524128
nah he's talking about that thing from the super early Project Beast trailer where the hunter stabs a blue glowey sword into a pedestal.
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>>122524128

No I mean this.

https://youtu.be/xx8KTIeSnzs?t=51

Looked like a switch to open something. I am hoping they added it as an arcane spell.
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>>122523554
That doesn't really line up with what we're talking about though. The "shackle" here would be the lower Beasthood number -- you literally cannot progress beyond certain levels of transformation without the higher Beasthood number. The mutation only happens when that shackle breaks, and it never does for the player.
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Bring back gimmicky fuck huge bosses like the Dragon God.
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>>122518990
>>122519297
>As to the specific type of beast when that transformation happens, not a clue.

I can put forth a theory on it;

Gilbert mentions very early on that he's never heard of paleblood, and that the player should visit the church to ask about "special" types of blood. This suggests that there's other kinds of blood that Gilbert does know about, presumably including the stuff he's taking to curb his illness. To me that suggests that what kind of beast you turn into may depend on what strain or strains of blood you've been doping. For instance, Gilbert turns into a beast patient, same as many of the specimens down in Old Yharnam. Maybe that's the kind of beast that regular-ass healing blood (the kind that would be given to a filthy outsider) turns you into. Then you could look at the Suspicious Beggar, who turns into an Abhorrent Beast, and peddles in Beast Pellets; perhaps it's that particular kind of blood which will result in that particularly powerful beast form. Perhaps that's even why Abhorrent retains speech and reason.

Then you've got the church, who can turn into giant furry beasts or who can end up as funny-looking ayyliums. I'd bet the former is taking one kind of blood, old blood maybe, and the latter is shooting up with Bribri's brown ichor.

In that case it would also be possible that mixing different kinds of blood would result in a different beast entirely.

Of course, even if there's a lick of truth to this there's the additional variant of how hard you were resisting the transformation, since that's Word of God, so even individuals all sharing one strain or mixture of strains could still end up looking pretty different, like Amelia and Cleric do.
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>>122524687

I'm in for it. I always thought those fights sucked until I played DS2 and didn't get one. That's when I realized they were actually a nice change of pace.
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>>122524552
But that's exactly what I'm saying. Having a low beasthood means you cannot hit the higher beasthood breakpoints. It is exactly the same as saying a person's weaker sense of humanity means they become a smaller beast (low beasthood resistance) whereas a stronger sense of humanity means they become a larger beast (high beasthood resistance).

As that excerpt from the manual states, "While transformed into a beast, a fuller Resistance Gauge boosts the effect of transformation".

As written,
>while transformed into a beast

It doesn't matter if the transformation is only temporary, it's still a transformation.
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>>122523430
too spooky

what does it say?
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I still want a live action series
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>>122524962
That's not what it's suggesting at all, though. Higher beasthood breakpoints means you're closer to becoming a beast than someone with low beast breakpoints. It doesn't mean you're turning into a stronger beast, you're just becoming more beast-like, feral, and aggressive. Someone with a low Beasthood stat is trying to resist turning into a Beast and thus progresses less in the transformation, while someone with a high Beasthood embraces it and relishes and enjoys the bloodshed. Look at the beasthood numbers on sets of armor. The Cainhurst sets place an emphasis on refinement and elegance, things that separate humans from beasts, and have some of the lowest Beasthood stats in the game.
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>>122525527
"While transformed into a beast, a fuller Resistance Gauge boosts the effect of transformantion"

When that resistance gauge is on the screen at all, you are already transformed into a beast. There is no resisting going on here, it has already been done. Even if it's only temporary, you are a beast. And in this case, a higher resistance to the Transformed status affliction allows you to eventually become a more powerful beast.

Even then, how you're describing it goes against what you're trying to say it is. You're saying that someone with a low beasthood stat is trying to resist turning into a beast, but if that were the case then they ought to eventually become a giant beast. As in, someone who resisted it more would become a stronger beast. However, that is not the case mechanically; they instead are limited to lower strength.

Miyazaki says that those who resist their inner beasts more will eventually become stronger beasts. The game demonstrates that those with higher beasthood are stronger when transformed. Are these not the same thing?
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>>122516632
This is my personal tier list:
S:
Logarius Wheel, Saw Spear
A:
Saw Cleaver
A-:
Hunter Axe, Threaded Cane
B:
Ludwig's Holy Blade, Reiterpallasch, Blade of Mercy
B-:
Burial Blade, Kirk Hammer, Rifle Spear
C:
Chikage,
C-:
Stake Driver, Tonitrus
D:
Beast Claw
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>>122525527
It's worth noting that the creatures the Cainhurst Vilebloods transformed into don't count as beasts at all, they're a separate class of enemy.

Alternatively, it's possible that refinement and elegance aren't the opposite of Beasthood, as a few Vileblood items mention that they once dealt with a beast scourge of their own. Fat lot of good their fancy-pants ballroom dances did then.
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>Invade at 150 through SRRC
>Check the chalice afterward
>It was a depth 2 hintertomb root with fetid offering only
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What's the best build for a twinking build? I want a build to screw with people who return with the DLC.
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>>122527756
wheel
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>>122527036
Move that Kirk up to A and we're cool
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Does anyone have a video of the One Reborn talking in his weird gibberish? Sounds cool

>"AHHHHHH SCJHKASHCJKSHJKCHSJCHJSCH COOLIMANCE"
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>>122519196
>that stream happened like an hour ago where the fuck are the patch notes

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv241918855
That stream happens in 9 hours Kosm
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>>122528092
Maybe at the end of B-.

Ludwig's, BoM dash, and tricked Reiter are all more solid weapons imo. Kirk also sucks against healing.
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>>122528238
ye I realized after I made that post
someone mislead me by telling me it was 9:30am instead of PM
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>>122528279
End of B, I meant to type.
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>>122527756

For what BL range? That's the question. I'd bet a lot of people will be breezing through on their BL150s at first.
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I hereby claim the spear warpick in the DLC as my weaponfu. All other claims can FUCK OFF

This is not open to debate.
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>>122528092
>kirk
>A
it's fun and all but get real son
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>>122526976
>Micolash: "As you once did for the vacuous Rom, grant us eyes, grant us eyes. Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy."
Insight reduces beasthood. Micolash implies that turning into beasts is due to lack of insight. Explain this.
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>>122528657

BLACKSKY EYE IS MINE
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>>122528657

I might play around with it a bit between other weapons. We'll see. Depends on if it has good quality scaling or not, if not I might just ditch it.
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>>122527229
Eileen's set also has low Beasthood, and her attire is meant to be symbolic for sending off hunters as humans and not beasts. The wearers of the Church sets approach the beast problem from a medical capacity as "doctors" and also have low Beasthood.
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>>122528626
Good point, I was assuming somewhere along the lines of midgame, like some level good for catching people on the low end people powerleveling to ezmode blood starved beastie, and on the high end maybe forestfriends.

But you put forth a really good point. If I wanted to catch people's tricked out endgame characters, what's a good range for hitting them you figure?
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>>122528784
Rom isn't a beast, it's a kin. Beasthunter gems have no effect on it, whereas kinhunter gems do.
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>>122529307
What? I never even implied that Rom is a beast.
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>>122529458
What? Then how were you disagreeing at all?

Turning into a beast is due to a lack of insight. Low insight equals higher beasthood. It's in line with what I've been saying the whole time.
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>Gehrman bossfight
That fight was amazing, the music was amazing, the arena is amazing.
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>>122529675
And what I've been saying is that Insight reducing Beasthood means that a lower number = less beastly, and the reason why the Healing Church members transform into more hideous beasts is because they've been resisting turning into a beast longer due to higher Insight.
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>>122530028
Now you're just contradicting yourself outright. If a lower insight means less beastly, then a lower insight means less beastly. It does not suddenly mean clerics turn into greater beasts just because they're clerics.
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>>122529304

For endgamers I think 115-120 maybe? You can hit the ~150s and the 100s, and of course you're at the same level as the 120s. You can't reach the 200+ scumbags but who would want to anyway?
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>>122530276
The backlash is bigger because they've been suppressing their inner beast.
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>>122530351
Alright, thanks. Sorry I usually end game around 70-90 depending on the weapon and have never done PVP before, let alone most of the lower chalice dungeons.

I had planned to walk through them with a buddy but he went full shitter and traded the game in after struggling with One Reborn.
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>>122530468
You want to twink when you've never done PvP before? Why?

And iktf, both of my irl friends who played with me have sold their PS4s. I will be playing solo.
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>>122530468
>TOR was too hard
some people smdh tbqh
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>>122530468
>after struggling with One Reborn
He didn't kill the bell maidens didn't he
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>>122530468
>want to screw with people coming back for the dlc
>doesn't pvp and has no gems
brah
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>>122530374
Yes. That suppression is their resistance. To Transformation. Beasthood is that resistance.

Higher beasthood means stronger beast when transformed. Miyazaki says people who suppress their inner beast more have a bigger backlash when it breaks.

They're the same thing.
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The chalice update better overhaul gems. The majority of them are garbage with no purpose. ATK Down goes immediately to the trash can. Same with fire gems that have Beast Down and Arcane gems with Kin Down. Its so fucking stupid. Imo every gem should have some use for different builds.
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>>122530874
But they LOSE Beasthood with Insight.
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>>122531026
Why wouldn't you want kin down on an arcane gem? Every kin in the game resists arcane to some degree, it's the best curse to have on there because you'll never use arcane against them. However, some beasts are weaker to arcane than fire, like Silverbeasts and hotdog, so you don't want beast down on an arcane gem. But you don't want kin down on a fire weapon, because some kin are weaker to fire than they are to bolt, namely brainsuckers. Fire would be better with stamina curses to not get in the way of that.

Every beast in the game resists bolt to some degree, so beast down is best on those.
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>>122530468

Well, 120 will also be a good level for tackling Defiled Pthumeru and such if you've never done the harder dungeons before. They're pretty brutal at low levels.

Make sure to check that link in the OP for the chalice speedrun, don't want to be wasting any time down there.

Random PvP is a little harsher at top levels because you tend not to have a huge damage advantage like you do at 43 or 60. If you're lucky most of the DLC will be nightmare zone so you can invade solo hosts, but even that'll have a learning curve. Good luck.
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>537 million souls away from BL 544
>Can make 881k souls per run farming winter lanterns
>~2m20s per run
>That's ~22.6m souls per hour
>It should only take about 24 hours of farming to reach 544

I've spent at least that much time farming gems. I can do this.
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>>122531923
for what purpose
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>>122531026
>chalice update
Explain further?
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>>122531230
Which does nothing to contradict anything I've been saying. Have you been paying attention at all?

You're trying to say that gaining insight should make it harder to become a beast, because you're assuming that *church hunters would have high insight*. Have you listened to Amelia's prayer? Lady has no idea what the fuck is going on at all, and there's not a single mention of eyes or knowledge anywhere in it. The Healing Church, and Mensis, have nothing to do with insight.

The whole eyes and insight thing started with Willem in Byrgenwerth, and was continued by the Choir. The Choir is the one babbling on about eyes on the brain. Fun fact: the spells Micolash uses are both connected with the Choir, not Mensis. Despite how the /bbg/ meme goes, Micolash is most likely associated with the Choir. As for the Mensis cage on his head, we already have one example of a Choir member being locked in a cage, shackled to a chair, and strapped with a Mensis Cage. It's the corpse you find the Upper Ward key on.
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>>122532051
Mentioned in an interview. They said there wouldn't be any changes to chalice dungeons for the DLC, but that a future patch for them is planned.
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>>122531440
>Every kin in the game resists arcane to some degree

I do way more damage to the humanoid chalice enemies with arcane than fire and bolt. Same with silver beast. Wish the guide listed all enemies with their weaknesses but it doesnt so I have to test this shit constantly.
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>>122531990
To be 544.
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>>122532387
but
why
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>>122532502
to be higher than 543
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>>122532502

Because
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>8 hours until the bomb drops
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>>122530640
Well, I did pvp in the other games religiously. I just got busy for Bloodborne and just did like 2 runs through the game before having to put it down.

So my goal is to just...pimp out a character, and fight someone. I'm shit so if I can't beat them with the advantages I have, they've easily won. Over time I'll get better and need less, maybe remove some gems, maybe use a less viable weapon. If someone's utter shit and you can tell they're dumping their pants to get away, that's one of the ole' fist fight guys to loosen him up and realize it's for fun.

Hard to explain the mindset but I've fucked with people outside of competitive pvp, just invasion pvp, since Demon's Souls right after I got my first pure bladestone.

>>122530651
>>122530664
I know, and he could figure out the maidens but basically he fought tor like game grumps did. Kind of tried to tank it.

I had a rally gem and the stake driver so I could regain tank a bit but still needed to choose well where I attacked. he didn't seem to notice a difference and didn't listen to shit.

Some areas are better for spam r1 than others.

>>122530670
The couple of invasions I did people just did the normal souls shit. Run, hide, summon. Seems this will be standard funfair.

>>122531580
Thank you. Any advice on what kind of weapon will give me a psychological advantage? Something people aren't used to fighting or underestimate?
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Having low insight means that you're more vulnerable to becoming a beast. The easier it is for you to transfrom, the weaker of a beast you are. Having high insight gives you more resitance because you're more aware of your own beastly traits. The more you resist it, the more it builds up. The more it builds up, the stronger your transformation will be when you finally give in.

What's not to understand?
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>>122533752

Eh, not really. Just find something you like and use that.
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>>122528657
Maining that MLGS the second I get it
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>>122534425
Might as well never stop playing DkS1. If you're never going to embrace change and try something new, just fucking keep doing the same shit and let us get the new shit without pandering to faggots like you.
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>>122534768
>sperging out this hard

m80 I'll have build for every single new weapon lol
Either way this is Bloodborne. The weapon's bound to be tons more complex, plus it visually looks pretty neat with the whole arcane theme. No need to foam at the mouth
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>>122535095
Best response ya got, huh? It's OK kid. Nothing personal.
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>>122534768
>If you're never going to embrace change and try something new,
>Seriously implying that BB's MLGS will function exactly the same way the DkS ones did even though all the other weapons are so different from everything that came before them
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>>122534768
it's been from armored core and kingsfield too. I don't mind it being there as a once an episode reference, but i do think it would be funny to have it sometimes appear as moonlight poleaxe or something just for variety.
after all, the evelynn reference with it being in a library with some odd maneuvering to get to reminds me of the duke's archives, but it sure doesnt shoot three bullets, the repeating pistol even only shoots two
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>>122535386
>>122535407
It isn't specifically the MLGS, it's the babby greatsword user syndrome, where they use a weapon because it helps them end a battle easily.

I don't have to explain to you guys the skill to effectiveness ratio of a weapon in use.
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>>122535386
>all weapons different from what came before
>Ludwig's is TWO old weapons in one.
>so is axe

he's rihgt on about the security blankie thing people do with weapons
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>>122535589
>skill to effectiveness ratio
you sound like a fag but this is why I don't respect saw users
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>>122535831
Thank you. Saw spear is a weapon specific to this game that is kind of a pve crutch, it just gets a decent bonus in too many situations.

It's fine to have some weapons that are easier than others, but when people specifically praise and uphold those weapons, stick to them like glue, and like in the case of MLGS, drool at the mouth waiting for the next incarnation of their shitterstick...it's fucking annoying.
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>>122535589
>Using an arguably effective weapon means you're a shit babby
Obviously you must use beast claws only or else you're a scrublord
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>>122535982
Man you are fucking annoying.
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>>122533754
It's completely backwards, that's what's not to understand.

When your insight is lower, your capacity for beasthood is higher, because the resistance gauge is longer. When your insight is higher, your capacity for beasthood is lower, because your resistance gauge is shorter. This is exactly the same as what Miyazaki says, where resisting transformation more means you'll eventually become a bigger beast. It's plain as day, exactly as written, and it's not complicated.

I'm legitimately starting to think you're just fucking with me.
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>>122535982
Someone was excited for a new weapon in a game that desperately needs them and you turn it into a way to try to make yourself seem better
Impressive sperging my man
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>>122535589
maybe he just likes it.
my favorite weapon in the series has been greatclub all the time, imagine my dissapointment when bloodborne didnt have one.

I have no idea what untricked great club would be though.

anyway, if my opponent needs a powerful weapon to play, that's fine with me, I use my favorite weapons, and I do fine against them, sometimes matchup is worse than if i picked sagat, but i dont want to play sagat/my guile is better than my sagat.
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>>122536208
I'm not the same anon as before. I got it backwards there. Take what I said about high and low insight flip them. That's what I meant to say.
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>>122532249
>a future patch for them is planned.
Just wanna point out that the chalice update could easily have actual content in it, much like "The League" and whatnot. Fromsoft has been getting friendlier with the idea of free content patches.
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>>122536485
I'm sorry, I got riled up there. I think I'm just going to back out of this discussion for tonight.

The DLC will probably shed some light on what the hell beasthood is, especially what with there being an actual beast mode.
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>>122535982
>WAAAAAAH stop playing how I dont wanty you to play!!!
there are things in the world, they're called people and they also have minds, these things called "minds" tend to think differently than you.
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>>122536590
I think the League is being released as part of a patch more to address a major problem with the base game: no co-op oaths whatsoever. It's almost as if they thought Executioners was supposed to be a co-op thing, then got surprised when absolutely no one used it because it did the opposite of that.

Also: "reverse cut content". That's just too funny.
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>>122537015
>I think the League is being released as part of a patch more to address a major problem with the base game: no co-op oaths whatsoever
Yes but It's also highly likely that the patch that adds this oath will also be the chalice patch and one of the final overall balance patches with real changes. Afterwards, I imagine all we'll see is them moderating overpowered stuff from the dlc weapons if something like Arcane Rifle Spear pops up again. No major changes beyond that though.
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>>122536294
It's not the same. It's going to be a fucking slightly different ludwigs. Also my argument had nothing to do with me.

>>122536091
I like to use all the weapons, but the Stakedriver and Reiter are my favorites.

>>122536408
I wonder how you could put a good tricked version into the club...Maybe it could transform from like an armored spiked club into a spiked shield or something for a flip.

>>122536728
It's not about how I WANT them to play, in a direct manner. Directly, if we went into a fight club and all weapons were more equally represented I'd be really happy, it'd show people's willingness to find a fun weapon and master it despite what meta or shitter instincts tell them.

It's that at the age I am, I'm sick and fucking tired of whatever you call it in online games where EVERYONE gravitates to the same shit.

Everyone I invaded in DkS, DkS2, BB seems to use the same fucking weapon, and not out of skill and appreciation, you can tell when someone knows their power moves, offguard moves, etc.

It's entirely different when it's some tard going ham because he's too fucking scared to try to balance out with skill what the ludwig's brings to the table for him with a different weapon.

Every fucking game has this. This shitty webshow calls it first order optimal strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EitZRLt2G3w

I fucking hate these guys, but this is one where they were right on the nose.
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>>122537185
Unlikely, because they already said the chalice patch is scheduled for some time after the DLC. The League patch comes out before the DLC.

>>122537292
Good lord man, there's no reason to get mad over things you can't control. Those people aren't trying to assault you by using the same weapons, they're trying to play at the absolute best level they can. You try to get good by using progressively worse shit, they try to get good by mastering what is objectively good. Both ways actually lead to the same results, it's just that yours takes longer.

When I say they lead to the same result, I do mean it. They are practicing the techniques they use in combat, learning to understand when and where they apply by using them, the whole shebang. At the end of the day, they're going to know all the stuff they started out not knowing, just by virtue of sheer experience. Your method, on the other hand, tries to practice a technique by using a tool not best suited for the technique. Basically, you're only ever going to learn it wrong. And I'm saying this as someone who uses the Beast Claw and acknowledges all its flaws.
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>>122537292
>It's going to be a fucking slightly different ludwigs

This one lacks faith.
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Do NPC hunters count as kin or beast? Gas turns into a beast but others just go mad over the insight and the more insight you have the closer you are to the cosmos which turns you into a kin right?
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>>122537292
Out of all the weapons I've seen people use. The chikage is the most fucking common. even in the fightclub, chikage chikage chikage. its fucking insane.

>>122538340
>kin or beast
why would they count as either?
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>>122538340
NPC hunters never count as kin or beast. Higher insight would in theory bring you closer to "kinhood", but there is no mechanic in-game for kin transformation. On that note, while beasthood by all rights ought to count as beast transformation, it doesn't trigger vs beast effects on gems. It's a mystery.
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>>122537718
I don't take their path personally, but I do realize that for everyone that doesn't take their path the game's get better.

Also, no mine doesn't take longer. When I switch to use an objectively better weapon, especially one other than theirs, I will be better because I sought to put myself to the test to get better while they sought to allow themselves be carried by the mechanics.

Saying I'd learn it wrong is just dumb, you learn two fundamental things in pvp. You learn the ins and outs of your weapon, and the enemy's weapon.

If they use those variety of weapons they get insight they never had before, such as how better players respond to them, which teaches them new ways to combat that weapon as well as use it personally.

They are missing out on combat experience in favor of being safe, having a slightly higher guarantee of success against people of their skill level or lower.

I'm not salty about them using ludwigs to kill me because if they're a shitter ludwig's user to begin with (as opposed to someone who uses it skillfully, which is a small percentage, and even smaller when you apply the bell curve to them and all players) they are fucked vs someone who's talented.

That's why forest gangbangs were fun for us. Because we weren't shitters but the shitters were doing everything MECHANICALLY in their power to give themselves advantages while we were just skilled players, so it was satisfying to lay them out for hours on end despite the advantages they had.

This was common knowledge then but seems forgotten now. No matter how good the weapon a shitter uses, he'll never beat someone experienced regardless of what weapon that person is using.

Yeah, they do better against 2-3/5 players. But if they'd stop being such pansies and just master a weapon, EVEN that weapon (what are the odds that'd be the one in this scenario though).

>>122538451
I see more ludwig's by far. Chikage is only mildly better, if at all.
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>>122538636
holy fucking autism
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>>122538636
You're arguing generalization vs specialization. A specialist will master one weapon long before a generalist masters all weapons, or even a single weapon. You aren't going to argue that fact.

What you're forgetting is you've had a hell of a lot more time to be a generalist than the people you're trying to generalize have at being specialists. You are literally playing against new, inexperienced players and talking about how they're trash because they haven't been playing the game for as long as you. It's a sentiment for fools, because the only true difference between you and "them" is time.

It's time to let it go. They aren't the garbage you want them to be; they're people.
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>>122537718
>they already said the chalice patch is scheduled for some time after the DLC
No they didn't.
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>>122538903
>pic
>>122539087
Perhaps I'm wording it badly, but everything you're saying is an inaccurate assessment of what I'm debating. Let me try to not shoot your arguments down, but use your arguments to better triangulate where I am coming from.

>specialization vs generalization
No, this is about personal cowardice in choosing the path where the game gives them the biggest mechanical advantage. It's in being slave to their fear instead of embracing that games are for challenge and the first state built into a game is a failure state.

>grandfathered into elitism
No, I'm not comparing people based on the length of time played, for example I mentioned the bell curve.

If you, regardless of all other circumstances, just tossed everyone online on a bell curve with the left being worst to right being best as far as performing, then compared to one with the left being least skilled, and right being most skilled, you'd find that the people I am attacking, those who seek purely mechanical advantages out of fear and who want to sate their ego with winning but won't bother getting good, you'd find that those that rely on mechanical advantages in the first graph, would be shifted leftwards on average in their place on the second graph.

This is irrespective of time played. I'm not sealbashing and pissing down their throat for using the ludwigs. I used the fucking saw cleaver (granted on release before we knew it) on my first run entirely, and thought I was a badass with how little trouble I had until I tried again using the Beast Claws only on my NG+ run.

It's not about people being garbage, it's about how sometimes a KIND of low level meta can ruin a game. Think Drake Sword.

I want to have this discussion, honestly. You're patient, you don't result to ad hominem, and you seem to be trying to understand me so please hang in there. Help me get to the core of this and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's just never been tested in the public marketplace of ideas.
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>>122539524
http://fextralife.com/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-an-interview-with-yasuhiro-kitao/
>The Old Hunters expansion will not bring new Chalice Dungeons or such, however a patch is planned to augment the replayability and the friendliness of the dungeons, separately from the expansion.

They technically didn't, huh? Interesting.

To be fair, they'd need to put all the uncanny/lost weapons and any higher/lower versions of runes somewhere, and chalice dungeons is where those are supposed to go.
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>>122539524

Yes they did but I know you just want me to do the work and find the source because you are too lazy to do it yourself. Well I wont, fuck you.
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>>122537292
>I wonder how you could put a good tricked version into the club
as funny as large club becomes great club would be, it'd likely be a mace becoming a greatclub, bloodborne is notably missing a 1-hand mace kind weapon, so that's the obvious route.
I'd also like to see a lucerne kind weapon.
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>>122539772
I don't agree with anything you're saying actually I just don't want to read it but whatever lmao but loranon, if you're here, take notes
you can still greentext and attack points without having to zebrapost
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>>122539772
not that guy, but it sounds like you're complaining about team scrub in marvel.

there's a couple of strong teams that are kind of hard to play, magneto famously has an infinite you have to learn, and a different one for happy birthday, etc, but anyone can always pick sentinel, cable, capt.commando
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NEW THREAD WHEN
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>>122539772
>Let me try to not shoot your arguments down, but use your arguments to better triangulate where I am coming from
Excellent, you are learning.

You assume that their choosing to focus on one weapon is a type of cowardice. Furthermore, you're taking an infinitesimally small slice of their playing experience, i.e. the period of time when you fought them, and attempting to extrapolate that onto the entirety of their "gaming personality". You do not know if that's all each individual person you encountered does. You have no way of knowing if they aren't actually trying to practice with a weapon they've never used before, and are using it based on what they've heard of the weapon as a starting point to get a general feel of how it works. You only know that they're new, and that you fought them while they were using one of the 15 weapons in the game (technically more like 13, since two of them are awfully hard for a new player to get). The people you express a dislike for are, for all intents and purposes, an artificial construct.

Besides, they're new and still learning, and I doubt the majority of Bloodborne's players are even 20. You can't expect them to start playing games for the challenge when most games these days aren't even about that to begin with.

I don't think the graph you're describing would look like a bell curve. You're trying to say less skilled people would be on one end, and more skilled would be on the other? Assuming the Y-axis is number of players, that would be more like a steady decline for about two inches followed by a nigh-vertical drop for several feet. The average PvPer is better than nine out of ten other players. A metagame is not based around what the majority of people are using, but what those one in ten players are doing. 'Scrubmeta' has always been distinct from the real meta, and no number of drake swords has ever threatened the real DaS1 meta, because those players die too fast.
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>making sinister dungeons
>ringing beckoning bell for co-op with randoms
>getting invaded and fighting the adversary off

This is fun as fuck. Chalice dungeons are the shit.
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>>122540390
>bloodborne is notably missing a 1-hand mace kind weapon

Poor Tonitrus. Nobody remembers it.
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Anyone want to help with Loran Darkbeast? Glyph: fuie3kcu pass: bbg7 bl: 70
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>>122541052
Continuing:

Bloodborne actually gives us a way to make exclusive fight clubs, and to even make another one if that one gets compromised. Closed chalice dungeons, m9. And if you really, really want to set a skillbar for entry, you can just make a sinister Ihyll because A) defiled chalice roadblock, and B) most people aren't even capable of entering sinister glyph dungeons because they never picked up a sinister chalice.
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>>122541360
Well, shit
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