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>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/
https://www.youtube.com/user/adwcta/videos

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com/
http://hearthrank.com/

>Watch and learn quest
https://sites.google.com/site/hsgresources1/battletags/

>Deck Tracker:
https://github.com/Epix37/Hearthstone-Deck-Tracker/releases
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first for arena mage is cancer

>play against mage in arena
>7-2
>close game, pick up some momentum
>play around a flamestrike turn 7
>she does it anyway
>fall a little behind but keep pushing
>turn 8 flamestrike
>really behind, survive
>good trades on turn 9, maybe I have a chance
>get pyroblasted turn 10
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How many fingers do you see?
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>>122419872
>look mom i posted it again
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>>122419872
arena paladin is worse, fuck off
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>it's a face hunter playing casual game
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>Shitting on Warrior with Zoolock

So why does everyone hate Warrior decks?
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>Drafting an arena
>Using hearth arena to record rewards and winrate
>Notice I had two exactly similar drafts with the same cards and even same card position
Weird
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>playing at literally rank 25 with new f2p alt
>netdecked patron player as opponent
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>>122420496
>playing not arena / brawl

>not expecting 100% netdecks
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WHERE IS MY DAILY QUEST BLIZZARD IT'S ALMOST 2 HOURS PAST MIDNIGHT REEE.
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Anyone having a lot of dissconnecting issues with EU serbers?
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reynad is our guy
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what card has the best entrance quote and why is it grommash hellscream
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>rolled 3 win shaman quest
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>tfw you finally unlock 4th wing of naxx

where do I go from here
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>>122421090
The 5th wing
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>>122421196
none of those cards are good though
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>>122420993
I prefer Doomguard.
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>>122421253
>Shade of Naxx
>not good

shaking my head to be honest family
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I just lost 4 Tuskarr jousts against a face hunter with my 1 chow in the deck. Does blizzard actually math or do they script it in ways for le funny trolden shit?
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>>122421253
shade and avenge, kel is a fun card when you get bored too.
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>>122421357
>relying on joust

risk vs reward, go with more reliable healing like healbot or guardian
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>Always save dust
>Only open classic packs
>Decide to craft Justicar for my CW deck
>Play ONE arena
>0-3 the dream
>open pack
>Justicar
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>>122420993
>not We're gonna be rich
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>>122421357
>tfw get lorewalker cho from piloted shredder twice in 24 hours
>as mage

RNGesus is a cruel master, and he's gotta get his kicks somehow.
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>>122420993
wild pyromancer

if only it wasn't such a shit card
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>>122421335
Shade is played in one deck. It doesn't even fit into most classes, because it's a slow card with high risk/reward ratio.

This is coming from someone who owns two golden shades.

KT is ok but 5th wing of Naxx is meh overall.
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>>122420571
>at rank 25
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Damn thanks for the deck senpai. Having a lot of fun usually
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>>122421508
I'm not relying on joust, i'm relying on the 5/5, but when i have literally only 1 card in my deck that can lose the joust out of like 15-20, and i pull it 4 times in a row. Math says that it's supposed to be VERY hard to do that.
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>>122420993
>I GOT THE BEST DEELZ ANYWHERE
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>>122421335
horrible card desu senpai

unless you're a filthy shiteating druid player
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>>122420993
>mind if I roll need?
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>>122420993
The best one is unquestionably from ultimate waifu, Blackwing Technician.

LEAVE ME ALONE
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>>122420993

GET IN THERE AND FIGHT FAGGOT
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>>122420496
same guy

If I pull a Ysera with an alt do I kill myself?
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>>122420993

I SEEEEEE YOUUUUUUUUU
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>>122421357
"RANDOMNESS IS SKILL"
-PCGamer 2015
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I want to play a fun and cheap warrior control deck while I am saving up for the first two Naxx wings + the first Blackrock wing.

This is my current poorfag list.

Any recommendations?
I feel like Varian Wrynn should be dusted, maybe for a brawl? I do have some dust to make rares / epics, but not legendaries.

Thanks in advance!
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Alright, what is the best anti-aggro deck out there that can also beat other shit?
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>WAAAAHHHH CONTROL WARRIOR AND FREEZE MAGE ARE KILLING THIS GAME
>Signed - Hunter and secret Paladin mouthbreathers

No shit you want the status quo to be maintained, you're playing the favored decks.
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>>122422335
face hunter
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What is the counterplay to reno jackson?
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>>122422479
>Fedora the post
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do I put mad scientist in mech mage decks?
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>>122422508
concede
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>>122422479
They want the status quo changed you fucking imbecile
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>>122422508
HIV
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>>122422508
Board control and hand advantage.
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>>122420087
Because, they're playing face decks with the maximum amount of damage and high attack minions. They don't have any removal or stickty minions, and get mad when they can't win by turn 7 and 8.

As a CW, Zoolock is one of my hardest match ups if I don't get good value out of my brawl. Your minions are too sticky, you have taunts, burst, draw, and removal. Zoo will do well now that Warrior and Mages are countering the brainless face decks that Zoo usually struggles against.
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tfw using windows xp and can't run deck tracker
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>>122422335
aggro rogue
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>>122422623
Yeah, it's good to have secrets like mirror entity for board control and counterspell to protect your mechs in the deck.
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>>122422508
Not pointing every green card to the opposing hero's portrait. See those strange looking things between you and the opponent's portraits? You have to interact with those now.
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>>122421751
Welcome to hearthstone.

Losing 1/30 odds is around the norm on this game.

but sometimes you win 1/200,000,000 odds.

https://youtu.be/0EnNSkBElFA?t=50s
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>>122420993
YOU HAVE BEEN MEASURED AND FOUND WANTING
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>>122422508
Run Deathlord and hope it pulls Reno out of your opponent's deck
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>>122420993

>YOOOOUUUU ARE NOT PREPAAAAARED
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>>122422218
>>122422218
Pls respond ;_;
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>>122422961
>play against Reno freeze mage
>read this
MY HEAD IS GOING TO EXPLODE
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>>122420993
I've always been a fan of Taz'dingo!
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>>122422508
Reno counter plays himself

You have to gimp your deck to play him.

As a midrange pally, I was able to kill a priest with reno, doing well over 100 damage, as he had thought stole my healbot + lay on hands + 2 truesilvers, and he had his own healbot / heals / velen etc.

Did it before fatigue too.
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>>122422730

Sounds about right.
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When is secret paladin going to be nerfed??

I'd be making great ranked progress tonight if I didn't lose every third game to secret paladin

I mean, Blizzard knows from statistics that Paladin is the strongest class in the game from win rate and cost effective class cards right?

I mean, why is this allowed? The only winning move after Mysterious Challenger is to already have a board that can handle it or have extremely specific board clear options

What is wrong with blizzard? Why is this allowed? Why do I have to lose to Paladin? When will it be balanced? Im about to kill myself
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Change any word in quote with meme
>"MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMES OBEY MY COMMAND"
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>>122423714
Go play MTG you kek
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>>122423751
WHO DARES SUMMON MEMES?!
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>>122422508
The fact that you have to make a deck specifically to cater to him is an immediate counterplay in itself. It's like playing that one MtG gametype where you make a deck where there's only one of each card, so it creates a different strategy in being more thoughtful on what you have to use and when.

In this kind of deck, though, he's really good, and provides a very important clutch heal. Pic related.

In before
>Huntard
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>>122423714
They have said that there is a counter for secret paladin, just no one really plays it and it's essentially your fault for copying decks from tempostorm instead of actually thinking for yourself and making new decks.
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>>122423751

GET IN THERE AND MEME FAGGOT
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>>122423751

YOU FACE JARAXXUS, MEME LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION
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>>122423751
We're gonna be memes
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>>122424106

I'm playing a priest deck I constructed myself cunt. No one plays it because it would lose to everything else. Go fuck yourself.
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I dont main a Priest, mainly because I fucking hate that little pussy of a hero, and while they have some of the craziest combos in the game with Dragon Priest & other builds w/ Inner Fire / Divine, I have a question-

Why THE FUCK doesnt EVERY GODDAMN PREIST DECK RUN 2 SHADOW WORD DEATHS AND 2 SHADOW WORD PAINS?

These cards are insanely good. Instant removal with low cost - classes like Paladins dont even have a removal ability.

What am I missing here?
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>>122423714
any nerf to MC will lead to at least 1 free legendary, and up to 2 free legendaries for every secret pally player, which will then use that dust to create the next most cancerous deck, most likely aggro druid.
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what are some other good pieces for combo lock now that reno is around?
not entirely sure about the molten but i think it can still be decent, maybe a mountain
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>>122422781
What should I take out for the mad scientists and secrets?
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>>122424257
but they don't have weapons or secrets :^(
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>>122422623

no?
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>>122424496
oops
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>>122422508
>countering a shitty card that whenever is played the player is behind
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>>122423240
Not enough bombs to call this control. Cut the healbots for sure you have armor gain and they don't work well with varian. What are your biggest minions in collection? You could run stuff like acolytes of pain, armorsmith, cruel taskmasters, frothing berserkers or the 4/3 charge (though shredders are better), pre naxx control warrior used those and whirwinds. But you need late game bombs. Healbots, sheep, spider tank, defender of argus, evil heckler those are first in lane to cut when replacing.
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>>122424257

because for most of the game they're dead draws
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Zeriyah I know you browse here so I just want you to know that you are /hsg/'s girl and the perfect woman.
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>>122424690

Intellect, Flamecannon, Mana Wyrms
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someone let me watch em NA.
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>>122424257
absolutely nothing to be honest my family man

They're the only class with clean removal available, though you could argue Rogue's have assassinate but not a single serious deck runs that.

If another class got clean removal it'd simply be soulless and homogenization, which is why Blizzard simply prints cards that have flavor to them (Enter the Coliseum, Brawl, etc). Though one can argue that the lack of straight-forward 4 attack minion removal can be a part of the priest "flavor" but that doesn't exactly excuse the ability for the Priest to run four instances of removal in one deck.

Pic related is the true cancer of Priest though.
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>>122420993
Thrilho
But only in French. Most gnomes are way better in French.
Just listen to it when you play him
http://fr.hearthhead.com/card=855/millhouse-tempete-de-mana
>that screeching scream
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>>122424257
SW:P is pointless because small creatures tend to be played in groups

Also 4-attack minions dodge both spells and are very common(Shredder)
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>>122424973

>mindcontrol
>pure cancer

>slowest card in existence, can't even be run anymore
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What exactly speaks against Velen+Mindblast in priest? It's just three cards and with only one tick from Emperor on ANY combo piece you have 20 damage from hand.
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>>122424690
You have too many 1 drops replace cogmaster or mana wrym with mad scientist. Replace esportal with mirror entity and counterspell.
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>>122425070
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>>122425158
Doesn't keep it from being annoying as fuck, especially in longer matches where your extremely useful cards that would really help you in a match up either end up stolen or not played due to fear of being stolen.

It should honestly just cost 11 mana desu.
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Remember when people said Reno was shit
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>>122424257
I honestly think entomb is much better than mind control and I'm gonna try to make a control priest deck with it. It's way faster, it ignores deathrattles, and it makes you win fatigue wars.
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>>122425070
Click the 'jouer' button to hear him
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>dumbass Warrior thinks he is smart for dropping two acolyte's of pain when I have a minibot and 4 silver homies on the board
>Divine Favor to draw everything
>he starts spamming threaten as I drop MC, Boom and Tirion all on curve

out fucking skilled, what a cuk. lmao :^)
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>>122425473
you are an idiot if you think that card is good
it's even worse as a priest spell
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>>122425473
>I honestly think entomb is much better than mind control

same
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>>122423751
Can I roll meeeeemes?
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>>122425621
>you are an idiot if you think that card is good
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>>122425867
>every game is a fatigue game
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>>122425473
>I honestly think entomb is much better than mind control
What the hell? For 4 more mana you could be playing his minion on your side of the field which is instant value.
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>>122425985
>le games end on turn 7 meme

face hunter meta was long ago
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>>122426051
>just let him hit your face for 4 more turns
>>122425867
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>>122426089
Secret Paladin didn't go anywhere to be honest, family
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savannah highmane
every single pack
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>>122425621
I am not the only one that thinks that card is good but by all means keep being shit.
>>122426051
>10 mana
Meanwhile this is 6 and instantly deals with shit like tyrion, highmane on curve.
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>>122426051
>for >>>only<<< 4 more mana

gadgetzan and leeroy were only nerfed one mana and are useless now, if they were nerfed four mana they might as well be removed from the game
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>>122426118
Alternatively play Sylv on 6, Boom on 7 and and whatever else on 8 and 9.

>I'm just going to not play any cards because he had a six drop
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>>122426346
>Savannah Highmane is STILL better than most class legendaries
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>not entombing their Reno after you Reno yourself
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>>122426362
>spend your entire turn to deal with Tirion on curve
>meanwhile the Loatheb, Dr. Boom and MC are still there to rip your face off
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>>122426363
4 mana to summon a rag/sylvanas/ysera/etc is pretty good bro.
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>>122426364
>Alternatively play Sylv on 6, Boom on 7
>just pack your deck with OP P2W legendaries guys!

And what about those of us who aren't good goyim?
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>>122426642
the designers don't really want you to win games, friend
it's gonna be hard
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>>122426576
I'd rather remove it right away(without triggering deathrattles and putting it into my deck for later) for 6 mana

It's only 1 more mana than Assassinate yet is way more useful
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>>122426642
Don't play priest? Play zoo or face hunter.
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>>122426526
I feel like this isn't even worth answering. So by your logic you don't play any cards or deal with anything before your enemy drops tyrion on curve? If you have all that shit alive and enemy drops tyrion on top of it you lost already shitter.
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>>122426779
There's a really good reason why no Rogue uses Assassinate and it has nothing to do with deathrattles man
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>>122423751
>"EVERYONE, MEME IN HERE!"
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>>122426779
>comparing it to a card that never sees play
Good argument.

>>122426792
Not him but it's no different that what >>122426118 said.
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>>122426863
>There's a really good reason why no Rogue uses Assassinate

Because a Blade Flurry for 13 wipes the entire board and the opponent's face at the same time?
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>>122426792
I saying you could light bomb there and clear that shit.

How many 6 mana spell cards do you think you can run in Priest? Reno isn't going to slow the game down that much to be honest senpai
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>>122426863

Because rogues already have a lot of damage and removal.

Assassinate isn't bad, it's just not needed when you have double evis double sap huge flurries etc.
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>>122427035

There is no reason you woudln't run both lightbomb and entomb. They are for different things.

Of course you would lightbomb a big board, but would you prefer to lightbomb or entomb a single tirion?

Apples and Oranges dipshit.
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>>122426863
blade flurry is a twisting nether on the opponents face?
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>>122427054
right because not only are those good removal, it's also versatile enough to do face damage.

Cards that only kill minions, especially when they cost 5+ mana, are just not good enough to be played.
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>>122427171
>There is no reason you woudln't run both lightbomb and entomb.
Takes up too many deckslots for 6-drops. If you want removal, use SW:D. It's far more mana efficient.
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>>122427171
I prefer to coin mind control his tirion instead ;^]
>this card is amazing in one or two imaginary scenarios
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I've only watched full review of LOE from Kolento and he liked entomb. Just checked other reviews from Firebat -says it's good, Kripp - says people will try it and it might be good and Forsen - says it's insanely good. Two of those guys may be memers but there is a trend here.
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>>122427313
>still having the coin by turn 9

>inventing imaginary scenarios while complaining about someone using an imaginary scenario

anti-Entombers are fucking Wisp-league holy shit
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>>122423751
>I BRING LIFE AND MEMES

for all I know she actually says this
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>>122427313

Entomb is good in every scenario in which the enemy has a consolidated threat.

Which is far from uncommon. It requires the same paramaters as MC to be good for fucks sake.

The only difference is you don't get the minion but you are allowed to do other things, like hero power or play other minions.
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>Can't use hearthstone on my PC for another week
>won't be able to grind up enough to buy the next wing on release

I really want to have at least one full adventure and earn a heroic cardback.
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>>122427512
Since the boom fiasco I'd hold off on citing pro streamers.
>inb4 the "they didn't know" damage control
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>>122427512
these were all the same people that said El Mysteriouso was shit and so was Mustard for Battle. Can't really trust anything they say.
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>Hey Ben! Are you planning to make Reno Jackson highlighted, once its Battlecry is "activated"? That would be so helpful...
"We'll look into it. Not as easy to do as the others so not sure when."
>Why it is not easy ?
"We have to consistently check board state for other cards like that. Reno compares every card in deck with every other one.
It's puts a lot of load on the servers to do the operation hundreds of times a game to make sure it's correctly colored.
Still probably doable but we can't just do it the way we did the others."

So since they can't pull the "Our playerbase will get too confused :)" they had to admit they're incompetent developers?
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>>122427512
Trump gave entomb a no.
>forsen
lel
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>>122427780
>Trump gave entomb a no.

Oh the guy who called Boom and Challenger shit?
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Alright /hsg/ let's vote on entomb, and after the meta settles out we can see if we're shitters or not:

http://strawpoll.me/6018598

We should really do this with contested cards before every expansion release
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>>122427780
Tump also gave boom a no, Kibler said it's good, amaz was sceptical but saw the possibility in control priest and the guy who reviewed the card with Amaz, Amnsesiac said it was good too.
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>>122427738

They don't need to admit their are incompetent developers, just play the game it's fucking obvious with all the shit that doesn't work properly.
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>>122425070
>that screech at the end
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>>122427738
>hundreds of times per game
>load on servers
Since the colorization is for your eyes only couldn't they just house that method client side?
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>>122427876
the same people said those cards are shit are saying Entomb is good.

Why should we trust any opinion on this card?
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>>122427896

It doesn't matter, the only way to know if something is good or not is to play it in a heap of games.

Until that can be done it's pointless.
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>>122427972

> that method client side?

>giving the client a way to scan and compare cards in your deck

yeah that couldn't possibly go wrong senpai
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>can cast Entomb and play Piloted Shredder on the same turn

Better than Mind Control CONFIRMED
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>>122427896
>six mana to maybe get the chance to draw a card or get a dead drop while denying your opponent a card
>not just removing the offending creature
>not just playing your own turn six
>not just holding out for mind control
I don't see how anyone thinks this will be good outside of some modified thief deck.
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>>122428285
>not just removing the offending creature

THAT'S WHAT ENTOMB FUCKING DOES YOU DIPSTICK
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>>122428074
Exactly. So we'll see what people think now, and then see what priest is like after it comes out.
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>>122428285
Who said you have to play it turn 6?
Also, it removes cards such as Highmane and Sylvanas, and you don't really want to kill those.
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>>122428285
If you think mind control is better than entomb you shouldn't speak.
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>>122428430
Why remove something for six mana when you can do it with three? Or remove the entire board with that same six? Or put up Voljin+removal for five? Priest has an excess of removal already, and the gimmick attatched to this isn't worth it.
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can't wait for lotv and overwatch to kill hearthstone desu familia
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>$100
>two legendaries (nat pagle x2, thanks blizzard)
>a few golds
>600 dust after duplicates
>could dust up a load of other cards but that seems counter productive

Didn't realize HS was jewing this hard.
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Why is massan allowed to viewbot so obviously? Always has a dead chat with 15k+ viewers.. Even chats with 500 are much faster.
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>>122428626

>Didn't realize HS was jewing this hard.

You might actually be retarded then
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huh

Battlecry Shaman is actually kinda fun?

everyone seems to be ignoring this guy till it's too late.
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>>122428797
wish he was at least 3/6
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>>122428797

Battlecry shaman is going to be great with brann
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>>122428591
That's not remove, that's destroy.
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>>122428591
>Why remove something for six mana when you can do it with three?

Because Entomb hits things no matter what their power is, so you can remove things like Ysera or Grommash or Reno

You can remove Sunwalkers and Shredders and Cairnes

You can remove Sylvanas or Highmane without popping their deathrattles

And it's 4 less mana than MC so it's not a dead card as long as MC is
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3 - 0 at rank 10 with a reno jackson priest deck i just threw together lol, anyone want dick list
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>>122428907
sure
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>>122428691
Because LoL streamers have been botting for years. Twitch doesn't really care.
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So, I have 1800 dust and got the basic legos (Boom, Rag, Sylvanas) and some others (Mal'ganis, Toshley, Thalnos). What other must-crafts am I missing? Angry trees and card-draw trees? Tirion? Antonio?
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>>122429141
there are many good legendaries for various decks, ysera, alex, justicar.
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>>122429104
if the bots don't trigger ad impressions then i find this very believable
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>>122429141
dust rag desu
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>>122428691
Massan's stream is comfy, I don't feel like chatting when I'm watching him.
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>>122428987

the light shall burn you
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>>122429398

Crafted it because reddit. Thinking about trees, druids are shining right now
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>>122428898
And of course there's the fact that Entomb can happily be ran alongside SW:P, SW:D, and MC in the same deck!

Kinda like how Forgotten Torch is being ran alongside Frostbolt and Fireball
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>>122429532
thanks senpai
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>>122429141
Craft whatever you enjoy playing. I crafted angry tree noises, but I hardly play it now.
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>>122428865
3/6 for 4 would be a pretty good vanilla card, with the 2 damage rock juggling on top of that it would be the most power creeped card they ever printed.

something had to give somewhere.
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So is Reno Jackson actually a thing? I took a week away from the game

And my first 3 matches were against Reno Jackson decks. I wrecked all 3 with zoo, but is it actually considered a good card or is it just a meme for the coming weeks?
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>>122429876
He seems worth trying out, so you'll see people testing the waters with him for a couple weeks at least.
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>>122429876
It might be an anti-aggro solution
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>>122429835

2 dmg juggle for a battle cry is not that good. Knife juggler gets 3/2 and a juggle on any summon. 3/6 would have been fine
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So this just happened

On my phone so no detailed screenshot
He went from 30 hp to 0 real quick
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YES. OH LAWD HAVE I WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS ONE MOMENT.
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>>122429876
There's been a lot more control or combo oriented decks on the ladder since reno. Loatheb laughs at them all. No point putting yourself back to 30 when you have lethal on the board and in the hand.
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>>122424106

>They have said there is a counter

See RNG overload topdeck cancer Shaman
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>>122428797
because it's pretty bad

>>122429835
yeah, because water elemental is seeing ton a play. because knife juggler sacrifices stats for ping that is far easier to activate.
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>>122429876
it's a meme deck.

1 of each makes your draws so inconsistent, even when using multiple cards that fill the same purpose.

and the times when you really need Reno to come save your ass he's usually no where to be found, and every other time he's a dead card in your hand.
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>>122430007
What happened
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>>122424106
blizzard also said beast druid is very strong. they've twice said certain cards/decks were okay before nerfing a few weeks later. i wouldn't really concern myself with what they say
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>>122430170
I don't fucking know it was a bug or something he just used his ping
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>>122424106
>>122430059
I'm wondering what the perfect counter to MC, doom, tirion on curve is supposed to be.

Especially if loathe b is played on 5
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>>122429876

It's obnoxious as shit and fucks over a lot of combo decks relying on lategame burst.
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>>122430007

Another victim to the Mistress of Pain/Auchenai deathtrap
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>>122430295

Play Gaara's Shaman. It is situational for ANY class. Get your early game minions then just devastate topdeck after topdeck after topdeck. Also it has a Kezan Mystic to steal an early game secret to secure a win.
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>>122430170
>>122430278
These are the people that play this game.


In other news, how viable would it be to make a fatigue/control deck with Reno that has a ton of duplicates and simply tries not to play him until the last few turns?
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>>122430278
>>122430170

Mistress of Pain and Aucheani have synergy.

Mistress heals you for her damage dealt
Aucaheni turns damage into healing

The healing mistress tries to do is turned into damage, causing the mistress to try to heal for that damage and it becomes a damage loop that kills the priest.
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>>122430303
those druid and hunter tears are quite delicious
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I want to build reno priest so I can kill myself with auchenai
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>Getting the Win 5 Tavern Brawls quest TWICE this week

I'm just gonna sit on the 2 wins I already got on this second one and wait til Wednesday. With 60 effective health and RNG out the ass, these games can take 20 mins only to lose because "lol 2 mana Pyroblast" or "lol sniped your best minions every turn with Rag"
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>>122430303
>fucks over combo decks

good
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Haven't seen this being run at all. I think everyone realized quite quickly how shitty it is.
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>>122431114
A friend of mine actually plays him, he laddered to 5 pretty quickly with his deck, too.
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>>122431114
>health the same or lower than it's cost

already a no no, let alone the shit battlecry
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>All these faggots crying about CW and Reno
Just play Justicar midrange Paladin, Mill, Priest, memesteed lock, Zoolock, or a control warrior of your own senpai.

Oh wait, it's just tempo mage, hunter, aggro druid and secret cancerdin kicking and whining to preserve their meta.
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>>122431032
No, bad. If you keep killing off combo decks we will end up in ultimate minion wars, i.e. what secret paladin is right now. Play most threatening minion on curve and go face.

>chow
>juggler
>muster
>shredder
>loatheb
>challenger
>boom
>tirion

Do you want every game to go like this?
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>>122431114
Would be good in a Brann Bronzebeard deck I think.
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>>122431114
Why would anyone in their right mind play a card that can be so easily removed and sets them up for a random fireball to the face at any point in the game?
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>>122431114
it's pretty good in a zoo deck
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This is coming next week

Why does priest have to spend an extra mana for hellfire? Especially considering it has a downside?
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>>122431308
Viable for face rushing I guess. Most games finish with 10+ cards left to draw anyway which immediately gives you low odds.
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>>122431494
priest already has the most removal in the game

why does warlock have a shitty frostbolt? because they have the strongest hero power in the game
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trump just shat on everybody's anime waifu dreams

>have you ever fallen in love with a 2d girl?
>"no, because they aren't real"
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>>122431114
>dies to shredder
Kek unplayable.
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>>122431494
Because it can't be king of both spot removal and AoE.
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>>122431638
he's already the king of aoe removal as well, lightbomb and holy nova are the two strongest board control spells in the game
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>>122431283
>Go face
Yep, just trade your minion's value for face damage. then go cry on the forums when they heal for 29 with Reno, and 32 with Brann+Healbot.

Trade? me no trade smorc XD just like my favourite memers on twitch ;)

>>122431494
Yes, let's give the class with the best single target removal, and the most AoE in the game, an objectively better AoE card of another class that denies draw.
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>>122431552
Has he been doing Q&A for like an hour now?
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>>122431114
>gives Shredder or BGH a free random 7 damage to your face

Only good if it falls out of Piloted Sky Golem to be honest family
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>>122431772
I don't know, I just got there
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okay guys I have 910 dust and I don't have:

2x abusive sergeants
1x worgen infiltrator
2x knife juggler
1x eaglehorn bow
1x arcane golem
2x argent horserider

should I spend the 910 dust I have creating them or just buy classic packs with all the gold I get
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>>122431923
just do it family

when I started I just went all out for facehunter as well, and after soullessly smashing hundreds of kids with it I finally had enough dust for a midrange deck
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>>122431741
>that shitty everything post
What? Answer the question, retard. Do you want all combo decks to die off so we end up in perpetual secret paladin vs. secret paladin matches?

Because the more combo decks disappear, the stronger minion based styles will be. Patron and freeze mage kept paladin somewhat in check and look where we are now with patron gone. After today's tournament people are already crying for freeze nerfs.
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>>122431923
Do it. Going the free2play route requires a strong starting face/aggro deck.
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>>122431114
I think it was probably designed to fall out of sky golem, but I got wrecked by one earlier today. It didn't hurt that the Warlock playing it also had a god hand but w/e.
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Why am I seeing so many fucking handlocks recently?
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>>122431923
I don't get why you'd run Worgen. Arcane Blast would be better as 1-of, or a southsea for the good synergy with the weapons.
1 arcane golem is also enough, here's my list, I want to run another zooka instead of the alpha wolf
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>>122432404
Because control is in right now
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>>122432404
Because people are dumb and aren't playing Druid.
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>>122432404
The better question is why aren't you playing mill rogue.
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>kill opponent's shredder
>out pops master swordsmith
>he double innervates kel'thuzad
>mfw
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>>122432418
because worgen is not only guaranteed 2 damage but has potential to do more, and forces either a ping which slows tempo down or forces an unfavorable trade which slows tempo as well
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>>122432717
It can't go past taunts, and it doesn't deal instant damage. I think Deckhand or Arcane Blast is better than it.
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>arena
>draft nothing higher than 6 mana

I should have just bought a pack
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>>122431303
Nice reading comprehension.
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>mfw 4 wings of BRM just to get flamewaker
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>>122432970
Sounds like you're a tempo deck then. Take the board early no matter what, play around AoE when you can. I believe in you anon
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>>122433079
>getting memed on
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>>122433132
well you also get Patron, Imp Gang Boss and Emperor
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>Mage mirror match

>Instead of "My magic will tear you apart!" get "Oh, it is on!" in a dark voice

Oh god I wasn't expecting that

Was this a recent change?
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>>122433304
Huh, what do you mean?
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>>122433524
Yup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBfjmP4bwE
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>>122432404
yeah it was weird because yesterday I had absolutely nothing but face hunter, zoo, mech mage and secret paladin. Now I keep getting handlock, dragon priest, dragon warrior and control warrior. I've never seen the meta shift so fast.
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>>122432160
>>122432301
Yea it's either craft those cards, or save the dust and get archmage antonidas for my mech mage deck
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>>122433652
Or maybe your sample size is absurdly small to talk about shifts in the meta.
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Who should I craft first? Sylvanas or Harrison for my Reno-range Pally?
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>>122433889
Sylv
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Why do people still watch Kripp? He's such an intolerable piece of shit. Not to mention he's become the biggest sellout, corporate kek possible.
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>>122434021
I agree, I only watch good streamers like Forsen
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>>122433889
Sylvanas is almost always good.

Harrison is either pretty good, or a dead card. depending on your match up.
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>>122434021
Kolento just went to bed
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>>122433619

Wonder if this hints at them getting the voice actors in for something else like responses to new skins
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>>122421529
>Complaining about getting 400 dust
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>>122434231
Wouldn't surprise me at all, should be pretty cheap and people like this stuff.
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>>122433619
Most of them don't even sound the same. The rogue sounds the most similar. Then maybe pally shaman and I think it was hunter.

A lot of the others don't sound anything like the original voice
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>>122434231
yeah, can't imagine blizzard hiring voice actors for just one line. unless it's people off the street like alleria obviously was
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First pick in arena, do I pick le secret man or that new djinn?
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Why trying to play a non face hunter deck feels so wrong?
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>>122434626
I think the voices for the new ones sound too clear in the audio mix. It's like they're louder and closer to you.
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>>122434648
Don't try to build your arena deck around one card. Despite how good MC is, you're not guaranteed to get a ton or even any secrets at all. Djinn is the better option considering the buffs you can get. It will also be able to get the same pseudo-taunt effect that murloc knight gets in arena. Have fun watching your opponent fumble like a retard trying to kill it.
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>>122434645

>you will never be a qt cosplayer that fucks a random hearthstone lad to have your voice immortalized in a digital card game that is unironically delaying the release of the third and fourth wings by a week so americans can celebrate the genocide of 200m native americans by eating turkey and absolving themselves of guilt by having obama pardon one turkey
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>>122434648
>le secret man
first, gtfo reddit

second, what secret man are you fucking talking about? Mad Scientist? Mysterious Challenger? Ethereal Arcanist? There's a lot of secret men, be specific
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>>122434935
the 3rd and 4th wings are delayed? why?
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I just re-subbed to WoW after not playing for three years, couldn't come up with a name, and then unsubbed.

Think of all the packs I could have bought with that ;_;
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>>122435109
>so americans can celebrate the genocide of 200m native americans by eating turkey and absolving themselves of guilt by having obama pardon one turkey
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>>122435139
F
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>>122435139
8?

Unless you bought the expansion too
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>>122434768
because your hero power goes face, and doesn't affect the board or your hand. It is literally the worst hero power for every deck type except face.
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>>122435264

I did
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>>122435139

>resub to wow
>run around org and sw
>pet battle random rats
>leave
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>>122434931
>tfw pulled another djinni but no buffs
At least I got a tirion, so I guess I can't complain.
2-3 here I come.
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>try to play mill rogue
>nothing but face hunter

this game does this on purpose doesnt it
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>>122435358
Add Reno :^)
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>>122435514
haha nice meme
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>>122435109
American holidays.
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Are there any other youtubers that do shit like Trump where they go into detail about how to play decks, why they choose the cards they do in arena, and just info like that?

I've watched his videos extensively so I'm looking for another person to follow
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rogue is a dead class, all thats left is oil and mill rogue. mill rogue doesnt even work that well compared to drood mill.

>has the worst hero power objectively.
>the one high damage aoe it has requires multiple cards to be good.
>its main mechanic is a negative because theyre too afraid of giving more cards that synergize it
>its other main mechanic can be disrupting by a 2 drop.
>no cards that make stealth even good.

Just nuke this class already and give the pirates to warrior, no-one will miss it.
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>>122435649
Kripp :^)
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>>122435358

>play mill
>vs facehunter

>gangup deathlords and healbots
>shadowstep deathlords and healbots
>win
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>>122435649
ADWCTA and Shadybunny are both better than Trump, both at playing and at explaining their thought processes.
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>>122435692
>>has the worst hero power objectively.

Love the class cards but god rogue hero power sucks balls. can't wait for murloc legendary to change hero powers.
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>>122435649
Watch adwcta for arena videos.
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>>122435829
The problem is that if you get rid of her hero power now you can't rely on blade flurry for shit like implosion/mustard.
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>Playing Freeze mage
>Vs dreadsteed warlock

>Running 2x antique healbot, 2x earthen ring, 2x sacrificial pact, siphon soul, malganis

What fresh hell is this?
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>>122435772
>>122435921
Cool thanks guys
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>>122436081

kibbler was playing something like that the other day
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>>122436081
Memestead is very close to being viable.
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>>122436148
>>122436187

I just feel like vs anything except a heavy control deck like freeze mage or control warrior this would be very ineffective.
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>>122436081

>waaaah my exodia isnt working :'^(

Go play some Solitaire, freezefag.
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>that gratifying feel when you win simply because the retarded faggot hits face instead of trades
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>>122436621
#justshieldbearerthings
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>>122436517

Hey man, I had the "Win 3 games as mage" quest.
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>faceless manipulator targeting a battlecry minion triggers rumbling elemental twice
>djinn will also receive the effects of friendly druid battlecry like Lore heal on other minions
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>Get Dreadsteed from Bane of Doom
>Ancestral Spirit my Dreadsteed

RAG ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>122436931
>knife juggler wont proc when you play keeper

how is blizzard so incompetent
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Have you thanked the hero Hearthstone needed today, /hsg/?
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>>122434021
He's also an asshole who thinks he can do no wrong. If he gets lucky and top decks he'll unironcially say it was all planned but if his opponent wins then they got lucky and shouldn't have won.
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>>122437034
card is cancer
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>>122434021
I really hate this fat headed loser, his superiority complex and his permanent smug attitude just blows me away to how anyone can stand being 5 minutes around him.
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>>122434021

Well, he's still better than Forsen.

Not that that's saying much though.
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>>122437405
>>122437405
lol no he isn't
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>>122437034
He's a temporary meta fix. Face hunter and secret paladin will come back in a few weeks after all the hype has settled.
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>>122437405
>Well, he's still better than Forsen.
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>>122437507
>>122437554

Oh, sorry, do you really like hearing a guy say "Never am I ever lucky" every 30 seconds for several hours?
>>
ayy
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>>122437118
Its let me have more fun with this game than I have in a long, long while. I keep getting messages from huntards because my healadin deck curbstomps them so hard a DMX track should be playing.

>>122437513
Frankly, he's going to be a staple in my slower decks now. But I always like playing meme cards, same reason my control pally has Bolvar
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>>122437741

>got memed on by a summoning stone mage because both deathsbites were literally the bottom 2 of my deck

digital athletics at work.
>>
>in arena
>literally lose because the guy is playing around MC Tech
>MC Tech is the only card in my hand
>it wasn't even suspicious as I filled out my curve every turn

Bravo
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>>122438120
Maybe he just didn't have a fourth minion
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>>122438249

He did. He held back on hero powering with 3 mana and 3 minions on board.
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>>122438120

there are people that don't play around mc tech in arena?
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>>122438120
If I'm already winning on the board why take the risk? MCT aside, overextending can usually lead to disaster in arena.

This is why you're not infinite.
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>>122438120
prime example of people who don't go 12
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How can I improve on this? I'm open to all suggestions senpaitachi. The only thing I'm not budging on is the new cards, as it wouldn't be much of a new deck without them. Dupes also don't work in Paladin, like they do Warrior and Warlock, as Paladin can't survive as long as Warrior nor does it have the card draw of Warlock.
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who /hitrank15anddemotebacktorank20/ here?
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>>122438681
I managed to hit 13, I've settled back around 17/18 right now
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>>122438513
I'd swap out a seal of champions for somethingā€”keeper of Uldaman will probably suffice when it's released. And I don't like Sentinel, I'd run avenging wraith, it's a great unexpected card. But that's about all I can recommend. I actually like Jeweled Scarab a lot, a lot more than I was expected.
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>>122438681
>>122438826
Fucking how you shitters. I'm playing gimmicks and experimenting with new decks, and the most I dropped is to rank 10.
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>>122438901
No point in suggesting cards that aren't released yet senpai, the deck would look a lot different if I could run Brann. Hell, Brann might make Reno useless entirely, which makes the highlander deck meaningless. Avenging Wrath is too expensive, and does very little. I'd rather run a Pyro, Ooze, or even a BloodKnight/MC. Each card needs to pull its own weight in highlander decks.
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Why is this card balanced, again? Oh right, it's fucking not! Needs a nerf to the ground, just like all the cancer killing this game
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>>122438826
>>122438681

I've played ranked like, twice this season for a few games each and I got rank 10. Ranked is a joke senpai
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Just got Eadric the Pure.
Dust or usable?
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should I run counterspell in mech mage
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>>122439223
the problem isn't that it's OP

the problem is that you need at least 1 card from each adventure and you can't craft them
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>>122439410
>control meta looming over the horizon
>Dusting a card that might become a staple for the meta
Just wait til league of memes is released, not like you urgently need the dust if you're asking.
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Rags or Rhonin?
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Why doesn't /hsg/ play each other more often? These posts are 90% ladder and 10% arena.

Why do we never use the tournament sites in the OP to arrange something between anons?
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>tfw you beat dragon priest with mech mage
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>>122439791

They don't want people to know they're actually all rank 15 shitters.
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>>122439753
>not picking the fire lord
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>>122439791
because the sad fucks that play this game realize it takes 0 skill and is pointless to play against others
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>>122439410
He's usable, meh against aggro, decent against midrange, and having a 3rd peacekeeper is amazing vs control
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>>122439753
3 mana Avenging Wrath is pretty good. Especially when you have a Flamewaker.
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Post broken cards
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How can anyone take this game seriously?
http://youtu.be/E-wgbP5pOwo
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>>122440159
I really don't understand how reno is broken

i tried a highlander deck with pally but it felt like the only reason he was "good" was because i took so much damage from my deck being all around shittier than normal
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>>122440159
>no dark lady
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>>122440159
>freezing trap
>highmane
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>>122440290

what dark lady?
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>>122440501
Highmane is pretty fucking OP
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>>122440159
>Flamestrike (in arena, sure)
>Justicar
>Reno
>Murloc Knight (in arena. maybe)
>No Owl
>No Esportal
>No Anton
>No Emperor
>No Innervate/ramp (would be balanced if Lore didn't exist)
>No Lore (wouldn't be broken if Innervate didn't exist)
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>>122440632
>Justicar
Tank up is fucking broken as fuck m8.
>Reno
He is the new meme

>Owl
>Esportal
>Emperor
>Lore
kek
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>meanwhile in bizzaro /hsg/
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>>122440890
Wow I was actually extremely lucky in that game
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>drawing 7+ cards with cult master in a single turn
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>>122440890
When the fuck will Blizzard nerf King Krush so a Hunter deck other than control isn't viable?
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>>122440539
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>>122440890
Damn, I got outplayed. I need to learn how that deck ticks so I can beat it.
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>>122440890
Im really liking the consistency of this new set, theyve seemed to remove all the inconsisnt rng prone cards with this new ban list, and adding side decking has really improved the strategy and intelligence of this game, blizzard continues to be a shining example of game design and balance, and I for one am happy they continue to cater to real hardcore gamers and their fanbase instead of casualizing everything they touch and appealing to the lowest common denominator!
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>>122440890
PALADIN PRIEST AND WAR BUFFS WHEN
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>>122440159
>Murloc Knight
>Still broken after the release of Tinyfin
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>>122440890
I sure love playing Hearthstone.
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>>122440960
>priest mirror
>other priest goes full northshire
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>>122440870
>Turn 6 or 7 6/3 that does nothing
>Broken
>Meme card that has been out for a couple of days
>Broken
>The card that is auto include in every single combo deck since it's been added
>Not broken
>A card that either breaks even or wins you the game on the spot for 2 mana
>Not broken
>The card that renders every single taunt/buff/none battle cry minion that costs over 4 useless for 2 mana
>Not broken
>The card that enables Druid to dump all their hand mindlessly on the board, then build their hand back up while putting a 5/5 body
>Not broken
Stick to posting how butthurt you are about meme warriors.
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>>122440890
That's a good original content, I'm sure you're not a shieldbearer making that.
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I summon Explosive Sheep
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>>122420993
WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDS

OBEEEEEEEEEEEEY MY COMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
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>>122439410
>dusted my first and only golden legendary, eadric, for dr boom

feels bad but he was never really good. even after hitting two giants, which is probably the best value, i still lost to a handlock. and with tempo/hunter running all over the place, he was just a overpriced aldor.
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>>122440890
Wow, all those streamers were really on point about Varian Wyrnn, I'm seeing him practically every game! He's so damn overpowered, how could blizzard release such a card?

Meanwhile paladin secrets are still completely useless! When will we get some real support so that these cards aren't just taking up space in the paladin collection? Streamers were right again, Mysterious Challenger is completely useless outside of meme decks.
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>>122440890

SHAMAN NERFS FUCKING WHEN
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>>122441423
He is pretty much an overpriced aldor with 4 more hp, but having a 3rd aldor is really good in some matchups. It lets you hit shit with your weapons more freely.
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>>122440890
wow, another set where almost all the cards are good. deckbuilding is really hard and interesting.
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>mfw dragon priest and velens

i fucking hate this shit
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>>122441560
If they adjusted his stats and made him 5 mana (you know, a slot that Paladin can actually add to) it would be auto include in every deck. I wish if they had made him the 6/6 for 6, and Dr. 6 was the 3/7 for 7.
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Has Rag gotten worse since last time they had this Tavern Brawl?
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>>122441772
>and Dr. 6 was the 3/7 for 7.

That might actually be a buff, it puts him out of BGH range when avenge procs.
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>>122440159
>paladins run 10/20 of those cards

LOL
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>>122441340
>turn 6/3 that makes you unkillable
I'd say it's preeeeeeetty gooooood

>YOU'RE JUST MAD ABOUT WARRIORS
No?

>card being in every deck of a certain type makes it broken
Then we agree justicar is broken as fuck?
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>>122441116

But she is not broken, anon.

>>122440226

People has been complaining all day about him so I put it in there.

Highmane is broken as shit and you can put two of them on the deck, Freezing Trap is over powered.

>>122440632

I was going to put the owl on the list but he is not broken, I did forgot about funstable portal, tho.
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>>122441671

>tfw dragon priest is a literal free win for my deck and I haven't lost a game one at all since TGT
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Who /ladder anxiety/ here?
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>>122442057
You shouldn't put him there just because people are complaining

honestly he's just whatever, he's a fun card to be sure, but when you force yourself to only include only 1-of of things like zombie chow or minibot you weaken your aggro matchup because your early game consistency suffers(which is where a full heal would be useful anyway)

I don't think justicar on warrior is broken against anything but combo decks either. Justicar is flat out worse than shield block/shieldmaiden against aggro because of how slow she is and completely useless against pally.
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>>122442547
Here, and I ain't even rank 10. I just stick to casual.
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How many people have this card back in total?
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its amazing how blizz has made kripp become this 'controlled opposition' thing. hes just a pawn. hes more than happy to wear a shitty hearthstone tee and a sports jacket at hearthstone events like a paid shill
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I finally decided to join the dark side and start botting. Can /hsg/ give me some tips?

What is the best way to farm gold? Ranked 20 at ranked mode with auto concede or casual mode?
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>>122442932

ranked mode with auto concede at 19
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>>122442547
stuck at rank 9 with midrange hunter. Always lose to druid's fun interactive combo
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>>122439410
lube your ass up for the retarded reno fatigue meta that leddit begged for, you should keep it
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>>122441892
I've had nothing but Rag this time around and I've won all 4 games I've played.
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>>122440890
I'm really glad Blizzard is taking advantage of its digital format. Even though some newer cards would be much better than original, they've done a great job going back and making sure that there are as few worthless cards as possible. That Priestess of Elune buff really shows what great developers they are.
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Should I do it...
I mean... should I?
Reno would just be too much fun...
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>>122443345
>implying it's a hard choice
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>>122443345

TBK is pretty fucking good, but since Reno is still new I'd go with him.
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>>122443345
Negro Knight either wins the game or sits in your hand the entire match,
Gormok is useless unless you're winning or your opponent is a retard.
Reno is shiny, and can be amazing in Arena.
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>>122443345
gormok is win more
bk is good
reno is probably going to be a 6 4/6
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Reminder that true meme cancer magic is right around the corner.

Turn 6 Ysera
Turn 6 Mind Control
Turn 6 Rafaam
Turn 6 Anyfin Can Happen
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>>122443345
I mean if there's ever a place Reno would for sure get value it's arena

You will never trigger gormoks battlecry

Black knight is ok in arena, but he's not even a choice when there's Reno right next to him.
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>rank 19
>everyone plays the holy champion priest

Anyone have a checklist for dragon warrior? Mine is very fun but it's not netdeck tier
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>>122443643
the problem is healing in arena is usually not very useful, especially since pally doesn't have board swing cards like flamestrike as commons.
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>>122443603

>restricted to 1 card per turn for 4 more turns

will be absolutely crushed by aggro.
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>>122443603
>Turn 6 Anyfin Can Happen

Why would you ever

you'd only get full value if you were playing the dirt cheap shitty murlocs till that point, which would be garbage. you want that card to be pulling warleaders, murk-eye and bluegills.
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>>122443345
This is what I ended up making. Prob wont get anywhere with it but just playing Reno would be fun
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are you supposed to trade your scientist in as fast as possible as mage
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>>122444132
whoops, too tired to post correctly
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Turn one shredder
Double living roots
Savage roar

Thanks blizzard this is a fun and interactive game
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>>122444273
>silverback patriarch

jesus, what were your other choices
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>>122444172

Depends on the match-up. you'd want Entity to be up when they're playing something big like Boom or sticky like Shredder.

If its against a Druid or Freeze, you don't want it up early or you'll end up grabbing Aspirant or Doomsayer.
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>>122444390
Target dummy
Wisp

No troll... seriously those were the other 2
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>>122444471

>Target Dummy

You know how I know you're full of shit?
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>>122443712

>everyone plays the holy champion priest

There is no "holy champion" priest, it's a versatile card that can be put in like, all priest decks.
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>>122444471
target dummy is a rare anon
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>>122444471

>common
>common
>rare

>one choice set

:^)
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>>122444471
Lying on an anonymous imageboard is pretty fucking pathetic desu
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>>122444529
Anon dont be silly, holy champion priest is right up there with fireball mage and war axe warrior
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>>122444471
o whoops, wrong one
Wisp and young dragonhawk
was thinking of target dummy, kezan and angry chicken
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>3rd agro Druid in a row
How the actual fuck do I deal with this bullshit?
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>tfw you quit hearthstone after the joy of hunting for cards is gone
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>>122444389
What makes you think this game is either fun or interactive
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>>122444892
Control Warrior and Freeze Mage is usually a bad match up for me. It's not a hard deck to beat.
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>>122444956
Did you obtain all cards?
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>>122445059
Don't have the cards
Fuck this game sideways
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>>122445228
patron warrior fucks it too and is a lot cheaper than control
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>>122429835
you don't understand what power creep is
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>>122435172
>>122434935
>some people did things in the past so lets blame people in the present
you're just as retarded as terrorists
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>>122445228
Its way cheaper than MTG atm.
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>>122445618
I would hope a digital cardgame where you spend money and can pretty much never make any money back is cheaper
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>>122445618
Huh. I unpacked one of those the other day. I didn't know this wimpy version of Jace was worth so much.
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>>122445618
mtg is worth spending money on tho
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>>122445618

Of course its cheaper than MTG, that doesn't justify it.

MTG is a physical product bound by supply and demand that also has a retention of value and actual ownership of a product.

HS is a digital product where there is no supply and no demand, no retention of value at all and you don't own anything.

HS is also a poorly produced, imbalanced and inconsistent casual game that has a massive price tag it didn't need.

You could have sold this game mostly on cosmetics like boards, board items, hero portraits, emotes, cardbacks and various levels of foils. People eat that shit up and will pay thousands of dollars to be unique.
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>>122445580
I raped your mom yesterday, it's in the past though. So I'll be around dinner at your home ;^)
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>repentance into deathlord
>trade haunted creeper for it
>he gives me thirion
>surrenders
Sometimes I feel bad for playing cancer, but then I remember everyone else is doing so even in casual and I feel better about crushing those shitters.
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>>122445952
>>122445735
>MTG is an investment
>everybody who spend money on any card got a profit out of it
>inb4 neither of which was said
So why act like that were the case, you fags?
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Consider the following:

A facehunter cannot win (read: the criteria necessary for victory on the hunter's part are not logically possible [i.e. will not occur in any possible world]) against a priest who has power world shield, double shadow boxer and double light of the naaru in opening hand, and draws into double velen's, and deathlord.

>but anon, you're just a mad facehunter shitter baby who can't get out of rank 18, the priest had god draws

So I was just meme'd on? Cuz I got meme'd on last time I posted here (if anyone remembers I was the guy who got wrecked by a druid who meme communion'd into draw into draw into avianna into legendary after legendary). I get meme'd on everyday. It's not a meme when the game shits on you this frequently, unless you're literally willing to admit one person's luck can somehow be different than other people's luck. If you're not willing to admit that, then what is the explanation for such a consistent series of unlikely outcomes with negative subjective value happening to one person? According to you fags facehuntering to ten, five, even legendary, should be cake.

So which is it, do outcomes tend to an average, or do some people just break the system and get "unlucky?"
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>>122446131

>buy mtg collection for x
>sell mtg collection for y

>buy HS collection for x
>sell HS collection for nothing

It's pretty simple concept. You can sell an MTG collection and get a least most of your money back because it's an actual product with value. Buying into HS is just throwing money away because you don't own anything.
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>>122446394
>implying you can't sell your bnet account
Funny how dumb you are
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>>122446365
Just use your owls
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>>122446394
>anything you buy has to be sellable
Why?
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>>122446365
Shit son that's a lot of memes.
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>>122446394
>You can sell an MTG collection and get a least most of your money back
Says who? Your baseless conjecture or what else?
>implying everybody has a collection
>implying there is limitless demand of any shitty MTG collection
Keep being delusional
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>>122446529

People are comparing to products for value. So you make the note that one is much much less valuable because it has essentially no resell value unlike the other one.

This is what context is senpai
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaS59PkdoDg

just found this gem from Blizzcon
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>>122446365
>unless you're literally willing to admit one person's luck can somehow be different than other people's luck
Oh no. How could anybody be willing to admit that luck is like luck and not just constant doe everybody
>why aren't all lottery players winners?
>are you telling that it differs for different people
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>>122446632
Food has no value! Africa is now saved.
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I'm not saying Summoning Stone is good, but it's not even close to as shit as people think it is. I just played it in a spell draw Paladin deck and it may as well be Miracle paladin at that point.
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>>122446714
Ha, that's my friend's video. He was so stoked when people cheered for him after he said his line. Sad I didn't get a chance to see him during Blizzcon. I was watching the HotS finals at the time and didn't even know he was over there.
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>>122446714
>gem
10 min of agonizing ear cancer
What?
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>>122446834

>food has no resell value and is not an ownable product and is also massless, sizeless and doesn't require investment to create

???
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>>122446880
It is. Played against a rogue. I tried it myself with infinite headcracks and sprint. It is a shitty meme deck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJm9B64WSxE

LOL
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>>122446989
>everything digital is not ownable
How stupid are you exactly?
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>>122446989
>hs is not an ownable product by blizzard and is also sizeless and doesn't require investment to create
Data has rights, you know.
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>>122446880
The problem is that its casting cost is so high that it limits what spells you can combo it with when you initially play it, and most people will immediately nuke the shit out of it if they'e able to.

Because of this, it has very little synergy with other decks other than Paladins (which can likely make Secret Paladin even worse) or Rogues, since they have the cheapest spell costs.

Also the fact that you can't control what pops out of it makes it unreliable for anything but board presence, and if you try playing a board wipe, chances are you're killing the minion spawn as well, wasting the effect.

So, yeah, it's a pretty piss poor card except in very specific decks. It's like they tried to make another version of Gadgetzan Auctioneer but even more heavily nerfed.
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>Divine Favor still exists

uninstalled so hard, back to LeL it is
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>>122447021
Rogue is one of the worst control decks there is, it has to be played in a control deck.
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>>122447124

>talking specifically about a single product
>"everything"

How stupid are you? You don't own your HS account and you don't own any of the cards within and the hold essentially no value.
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>>122446989
>ads,licensing fees, services of any kind
All worthless according to your retard logic.
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>>122446365
tfw playing a cunt priest and enemy facehunter is still smashing his minions on my 4/12 Deathlord on turn 8 and then concedes.

The light shall burn you :^)
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>>122447196
How are all MTG cards valuable again? Oh wait, everybody has the rarest cards and everybody else wants to buy them, right, you mongoloid?
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>>122447021
I've won 6 games in a row with it at a rank 16-14 (just lost my first one just then)
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Nexus Champion Saraad is a pretty alright card. I'm liking this meme in my control warrior
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>>122431923
What did your deck look like when you first started out?
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>>122447324

The same reason every product is valuable, because people DO want them and there is only so many of them in existence.
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>>122447578
>every product is valuable
>b-but hearthstone is not valuable!!!
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Why does shredder still exist?
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>>122446780

Outstanding.

Winning the lottery is a success criterion that is extremely unlikely to obtain. So somebody who does win the lottery might have different luck than those who don't win the lottery. Maybe we can call someone who does win the lottery "lucky."

Ostensibly, everyone entered the lottery with equal chance to win. Only a posteriori was the "lucky" winner revealed to be more lucky than everyone else. After the fact, we find that the player who won the lottery was more lucky than the rest of the players.

If winning the lottery is our analog for hearthstone, than when two players queue up for a game, they will ostensibly both have an equal chance to win. Only after one player takes victory, will we see just who was the luckier player. Luck is the only factor to play into a victory.

Does that sound right? Is winning the lottery the correct analog to winning any amount greater than one match of hearthstone?
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Good luck getting anywhere retail value on MTG cards. MTG has changed a lot since Khans came out. The new block structure has made standard almost as costly as Modern. I don't feel like dropping $600 just to play at FMN and not get entirely shit on. You can easily build ever tier one deck in HS for way less. Plus I can play HS when I want and I don't have to deal with smelly people. I almost puked at the BFZ prereleas events I went to. So many unshowered people that smelled like dirty old cum and dog shit.
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>>122425070
"PrĆ©parez-vous Ć  affronter le puissant Millhouse TempĆŖte-de-Mana !".
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>>122445618
MTG isnt a convenient game to spend money on because the play hours are fucking regulated.

What about night owls like ourselves. Up at 2 in the morning. Oh sure let me just walk down to my local MTG store thats open and full of tables.

HS is the best because you can literally find a game in less than 5 seconds even from your phone.
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How much fucking foundation makeup does Kripp go through a week making his videos? Why doesn't he just go to a tanning bed if he cares so much instead of putting a gallon of makeup on before shooting a video?
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>>122447817
I will agree that the worst part about mtg is the people who play it, good lord. the smell in the card shop, why is it liked almost exclusively by fat unwashed neckbeards, good thing I can play commander with friends
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>>122447895
He just needs it.
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>>122447882
>on the shitter
>want to kill 10 minutes
>"sure am glad I spent $400 on MTG!"
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>>122423751
HELLO!! MEME!!
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>>122447817

>You can easily build ever tier one deck in HS for way less

Here is the thing though, HS didn't need to be expensive at all. It's a digital game that could have sold itself through the cosmetic market. You can make an absolute mint selling expensive boards/board items/cardbacks/foils/portraits/emotes and all that shit.

Packs could be incredibly cheaper, dust ratios could have been good/or even 1:1.

But they didn't, they took the lazy way out and let people convince themselves its still good by saying "well its cheaper than MTG!"
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>>122448124
So you're just mad it hs is something that it isn't? The fuck is your problem?
>>
What do you guys think to dropping a Loot Hoarder for a Jeweled Scarab in Freeze Mage?
3 mana spells can be pretty good for them. Frost Nova or a decent secret. The minions could be decent, too. BGH or MCT. Even Coldlight Oracle could be good to draw into your stuff.

What do you guys think?
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>>122443603
the ONLY deck this will be useful for is Giants and that is it
>>122425473
I'm excited for entomb cause it's 2 more of a different sort of mind control, that's what this adventure added for some classes, more of the same cards but that freakin breaks shit when you got 4 of a card instead of 2 now
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>>122447804
>analog
You are extremely autistic. Take a nap and your meds.
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>>122448315
Well you could use Scarab and in your words get something that "could be decent" or you could just use loothoarder and be guaranteed something that is decent.
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>>122423751

>ah got the meme in mah sights
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>>122448315
It wouldn't be atrocious but what's the point? a combo deck wants to draw their pieces, not random okay cards
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>>122448275

>The fuck is your problem?

I explained that, it's a massively overcosted game for what you get and what there is.

If the game was sold mostly on cosmetics then it would be a better game because there wouldn't be incentives for them to create powercreep, constant pack filler, broken shit or have their current refusal to balance shit design principles.

I am sorry I wanted a better game
>>
Beneath the grounds denies reno, right?
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>>122423751

>I MEME and the world trembles!
>>
>try to play magic
>minimum 450 dollars, cycles every 6 months
>Try to play HS
>110 dollars will get you a decent deck
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>>122448315
You could draw great cards from it, but freeze mage needs to draw their combo cards to win and loot hoarder helps them thin their deck faster to get to their win condition.
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>>122425070
All the Warlock legendaries are way better too. Mal'Ganis and Lord Jaraxxus are freaking awesome in French, damn. Scary without being overacted like our version.

Fun fact French get a cool poem as their Skycap'n Kragg flavor text: Il chevauche un perroquet, porte une mĆ¢choire en guise de protĆØge-Ć©paules et un chapeau de pirate tout en tenant une lance-crochet gĆ©ante ! Alors cā€™est qui le patron ? LUI.

Not sure why Hearthstone 'experts' get so much so wrong. Like Liquidhearth has a TEAM of people reviewing cards and they seriously rated Reno Jackson a 3/10. WTF?

>>122437225
Yeah I am really shocked at how much starting early can help.

>>122440226

Allow Reno decks to at least hit the meta, its only been 8 hours since a 40k viewer tournament with no decklists on screen showed Reno off. Once SuperJJ's deck goes viral it'll be a broken card. Seriously it took more than a day for Patron Warrior to be broken, should take Reno Freeze a couple days.
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>>122448423
>have retarded expectations
>get mad when they are not fulfilled
>somehow everybody and everything but you is at fault
Top kek
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I wanna give her the dick
>>122448494
>Beneath the grounds
don't you dare motherfucker
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>>122448578

>retarded expectations
>to not be jewed as hard as a company can jew for no reason other than to jew

Yeah that is really my bad.
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>>122448409
>>122448384
Yea, I guess you're right.
I was thinking of 3 Ice Blocks and shit.
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>>122448649
So you are, whilst not needing to be interested in overwatch, extremely happy that it is not f2p, right?
Look you can expect a new upcoming game to NOT have dlc, but you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Who does mill decks the best? Rogue? What are some good decklists to look at?
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>this fucking kripp game right now
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>>122448774
Shadow step, gang up, cold light oracle
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>>122448423
You sound like some high school drop out single mom with a litter of little nigglets demanding that McDonalds pay her $15 an hour to do a job that a high school student would gladly do for $8 an hour,.

>>122447882
Exactly. I can play HS whenever the fuck I want. MTG cards are just pieces of paper. Their whole value is based on supply and demand. Most of that demand is from people willing to spend whatever they have to top 8 a GP or make the Pro Tour. I can instantly get any card or deck I want 24/7. I don't have to wait 2-5 days on cards to arrive in the mail.
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>>122448782
Resident sleeper am I right guys?
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>>122448381

Uh-oh, it's autism time! Why not just refrain from posting if you were gonna make such an extremely weak post that contributes nothing?

So did you not understand the word, or are you just triggered by its use?
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>>122448774
Last thread had a good one iirc
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>>122449019
Look, nobody has a problem understanding what luck is except you. So have a nice day and take care
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Anyone know the Lore behind this guy? If any?

I really like him as a card. I wish he would see more play.
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>>122448774

Both rogue and druid make good mill decks for their own reason.

They aren't hard to make, just get the basic mill cards and fill in the blanks with survivability and removal.
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>>122449131
he's the leader of the diseased leper gnomes
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>>122449131
He a boss or something? Dunno. Google broken or what?
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>>122448774
I feel like druid has better survivability but rogue has better mill
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>>122449131
Gas the Troggs, race war now!
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>>122449131
read this
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Sicco_Thermaplugg
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>>122449131
That guy tried to become king-like rules of Gnomeregann. He placed a radiation bomb that turned a lot of the gnomish population into insane leper gnomes.
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Holy shit, nobody told me it was this fun to play patron
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>>122449139
>>122449050
>>122448859
>>122449212

Neato. How crucial is King Mukla?, exactly?
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>>122424257

>Complaining about cheap removal with low cost
>Meanwhile warriors have 4 removals that cost 1 mana, each of them better than both swd and swp
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>>122449340
Not very, I feel
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>>122449340

Completely unrequired
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Why does blizzard almost never buff cards?
I realize that they want goys to buy tons of card packs to try and get good cards but why never buff anything?
There are so many non-common cards that are absolutely garbage to the point where they'll never see play in any deck but blizz refuses to touch them.
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>>122449131
He's basically gnome hitler, which is pretty cool. I only looked into his lore because I pulled him.
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>>122449340
Drawing your combo is more important than that ape. He is just great denying your opponent to draw hisniwn cards
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>>122449127

Thanks, I really do have a problem understanding luck. I had hoped some kind anon would explain it to me, but I guess I should just look it up on my own.

Funny you should insult me, then treat me well, but oh well. You have a good night too, anon.
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>>122449404

They are filler created specifically to prevent you from getting good cards from packs.
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>>122449404
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>>122449503
Yes I also get that but then why do you have cards with cool concepts that are absolutely horrible but would at least have a niche if they were buffed a bit? Do they just like to throw gimmicky cards into this game for no reason?
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>>122449521
You are not seeing the bigger picture. Now you can run 4 booty bay dudes. :^)
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>>122449665
implying I'd be running 2 of them to begin with
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>heal for 31 points
>Hunter still wins turn 9

So interactive
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Shouldn't there be more minions which do something with a divine shield? Absorbing to heal or whatever? Seems kind of weird how only the blood knight can do something with it
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>>122421640
>I don't like free boardclear with equality.
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>>122449846
>31

that doesn't sound like reno healing to me buddy
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>>122423751
>Memes, it has to be meeeeeemesssssssssssss
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>>122449867

>free

>two card 4 mana combo that clears your own board
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>>122449794
>powercreeping useless cards into further oblivion
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>>122449392
>>122449395
>>122449472

Thoughts on Beneath the Grounds? I hear that it's shit, but I also see it included in most of these mill decks I'm looking at.
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>>122449131
I use him in my mech mage deck as a last ditch effort to seal the end game. I don't have antonio or pyroblast
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>>122450017
It's helpful but not required. I kill most of my opponents with fatigue damage and not with minions.
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>>122449857
No other classes use Divine Shields though.

Plus the circumstances to pull that off consistently are very specific.
That would be like card that only targets a specific tribe, and that would just be retarded.

Kind of like Hemet and Light's Champion
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>>122450090

How do you not fall asleep while playing?
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>>122450180

Mill rogue games aren't long games friend.
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>>122450131
>class
Blood knight is a neutral card, you dolt.
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Do you see Toshley being useful in the future, at least?
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>>122450568
Do you even know how to fucking read?
I said only Paladins USE Divine Shield
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>>122450772
Not really. I am no deck theorizing fanatic though
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>>122450793

some warlock zoo decks still use that 1/1 neutral girl with divine shield and annoy o trons :^)
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Floating around rank 16. How do I improve this
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>>122450921
You don't.
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I'm thinking of making a mill rogue with Reno, 2 shadow steps, 2 heal bots and gang up. Is mill rogue finally viable?
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>>122450793
So? Who cares? The only card which does something with it besides having it already or casting it is the blood knight
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>>122450909
If your deck can't deal with a 1/1 and a 1/2 with divine shield you have bigger problems
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>>122450921
>zombie chow
>Even though Warrior and Dragon Priest both use Ysera, dragon warrior isnt using it
>double shield block and shield maiden without any shield slams
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>construct all-spell deck for 40 spells quest
>win

Uhh, well that was pretty neat.
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>>122450964
You need removal in form of blade flurry, poison and eviscerate.
Not having two of each would suck tremendously
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>>122451054
presumably he doesn't own a ysera
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>>122450964
Also, I would rename the deck Roussey Rogue cause I would be a punching bag. ....ill let myself out.
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>>122423751
>BY MEMES BE PURGED
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>>122451054
>>122451138

>zombie chow

Why not

>Even though Warrior and Dragon Priest both use Ysera, dragon warrior isnt using it

What do i replace in order to include Ysera

>double shield block and shield maiden without any shield slams

What do I replace with two shield slams
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>>122423751
>PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE MEMES
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>>122423751
Heh, this meme's toast
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>Opponent is a facehunter
>Get a perfect starting hand as control priest
>0 mulligans
>Get perfect draws
>Easiest game I've ever had

Yep, that's enough Hearthstone for tonight, I've run out of luck
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>>122451279

Zombies out for slams
Kezan out for Ysera
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>>122442547
Is this a joke lol. I had ladder anxiety in top10 legend, I play murlocks at higher ranks than you.
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>>122442932
>>122443057

What are the chances of getting banned for botting? I don't want to lose my primary account.
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>>122451705

> I don't want to lose my primary account.

Then don't bot. How is that a hard conclusion to come to.
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>>122451705
100%
But getting 'caught' botting. That's the question.
I don't bot, but I spot bots every now and then so I'm guessing they aren't caught very often.
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>>122451279
>>zombie chow
>Why not
Because is a slow ass deck like control warrior doesnt need it to survive against aggro, a midrange dragon deck surely wouldnt need it either. You have axe, slam, champion, bash, and guardian. You should be fine against aggro
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>>122451682
I get upset losing ranks at any rank
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>Plays f2p warlock against mage
>2hp left
>Reno Memeson incoming
>Mage has BSOD

It helped that I've had only shadowbolt and demonfire doubled in my deck.
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>>122451682
That's pretty sugoi, onii chan. But we can't all be awesome like you. I have this bad habit of half assing when playing multiple games.
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>>122451747
I have been f2p for 5 months now, and grinding for gold isn't much fun. I have all the adventures so far, and just a couple of useful legendaries. At this rate, I can maybe craft 1 useful legendary every month, and its just not worth it. Botting may allow me too craft 2 useful legendaries every month. But, yeah, I don't want to risk my 5 months old f2p account.

>in b4 shekels
Student loans before card packs.
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Fuck this. I cant practice my new Reno deck with all this free to play players. I dont want to rekt them with my deck.
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>streamers all try out overwatch
>some like tides even say they'll switch to it forever
>realize they get shit viewers
>realize they're shit at the game
>realize the game is shit
>crawl back to Hearthstone

top kek
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>>122450017
Protip: If your opponent were to draw ambush while their hand is full, it burns
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>>122452131
Is it a warlock?
You gotta make a Reno warlock,its ridiculous
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>>122451682

I have ladder anxiety when I'm fucking your mum.
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>>122452287
>not putting a paper bag over her head
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>>122452263
Third one in a row, did this get played in a tournament or something?
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>>122451515

This is my face when I play priest against hunter no matter what cards I draw.
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>>122451515
>fight control priest as warrior
>weird chink moonrunes
>he doesnt run shrinkmeisters

Easiest Ysera of my lyf for 5 turns
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>>122452263
If i only got the legoes for it.
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>>122452345
New meta desu senpai

reno control lock
reno fatigue warrior
reno freeze mage

bring back the leper gnomes
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>mfw https://youtu.be/PWmfNeLs7fA?t=35
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>>122452578
Indeed.
In my opinion Reno mage is much worse since you cannot really draw 10 extra cards for him
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>>122452605
>reno freeze mage
Does that work? Please no more freeze mages.
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>>122452684
Is it possible to lose with this curve?
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>>122452745

No, it's pointless. Makes you stronger against the matchups you win anyway.
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>>122452745
SuperJJ just swept seatstory cup with it, so yes, it works. It's basically invincible. I fear for hearthstone if this deck archetype becomes a thing. Say what you will about aggro but the games were short. Besides how is healing endlessly any less brainless than attacking face endlessly ?
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>>122452787
Yeah freeze mage
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Aggro being killed off and the rise of P2W control decks is the death of this game.

inb4 >I'm f2p since 2 years just grind/bot XD
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>>122452684
Oh nice, someone used my image.

>>122452787
You can lose but it's very unlikely.

>>122452825
>Besides how is healing endlessly any less brainless than attacking face endlessly ?
Honestly what I hate most about Freeze mages is the fucking Ice Block and chained turns of near invincibility after they 5 mana or so. You can't do jack shit without charge.
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>>122452745
Please more Freeze Mages, I don't want to keep losing to El Mysteriosos as CW
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Is tempo mage cancer?
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>>122452919
Reno freeze kinda works for me. drawing your dubs are not that hard
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>>122453081
No. frost mage is
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>>122453081
Absolutely
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>>122452919

>waaaah ME FACE BUT HE NO DIE
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>>122453081
every tier 1 netdeck is cancer because everyone above rank 25 and below legend runs netdecks.

when you can name all 30 cards in every opponents deck and still not be able to play around them, yeah, the game's gotten out of hand
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>>122453081
Only when they get this kind of draw. Not unbeatable though. The only cards that are dumb are SKILL PORTAL and maybe walker.

>>122453164
You don't get it do you little shitter? If a freeze mage gets the perfect draws by turn 5, he will win regardless of what you do, only control warrior can survive the grind but dragon priest, ramp druid and everything else is fucked. Maybe oil rogue could pull it off and also possibly a face hunter which are ironically aggro decks.
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>>122453081
It's fun as a barrel of monkeys. But it might feel pretty cancerous for your opponent when you pull all the perfect tempo plays and outskill people with e-sportal. So just like any other deck in the game.
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>everyone complains about face cancer in casual
>no one complains about golden decks in casual
Fuck you. This is the reason I queue face cancer in casual mode.
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>people complaining about freeze of all things

Tech kezan
Win

Wow that was hard
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>>122453308
>LeKezanFace
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>>122453393
Tell me the difference about a golden card/deck and a normal one.
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>Mage kills Deathlord
>He pulls out an Echoing Ooze
Okay, why the fuck was that card in his deck?
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>>122453423
>kezan
>a good card
suck my clit
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>>122453478

one has golden cards, the other doesn't
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>>122423751
>Pass meme that arclight spanner!
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>>122452825

Shieldbearer, please. You do realize freeze mage is auto win against some and auto lose against other decks? Cifka ran the I-play-creatures-on-curve-with-no-heals-or-removal priest, the many-a-cards-in-hand-lifetap-yourself-to-enemy-lethal-range warlock, the no-heals-mysterious-holyman-aggro deck and casino mage which is a meme in itself.

>>122453308

>tripfag
>not retarded

Ramp druid wins 8 out of 10 games against freeze and so does any proper control deck like warrior, priest or paladin.
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>Reroll 40g to Watch and Learn
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Why is there gaps in between tavern brawls? I don't want to play regular hearthstone
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>>122452825
>Ban Warrior
>Auto-win with freeze

Great tournament.
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>>122453575

Control Priest autoloses hard against freeze, they can literally do nothing. You straza them, they heal a little and then you 22 to 0 them right after. It's not like they can burst you.
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>>122453491
Reddit please.
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>>122422707
>>122424725
Really it's just board control. If your deck relies on him then your deck relies on losing for most of the game which is never reliable.
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WE'RE
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How irreplacable is geddon in cw?
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>>122454021
How do you plan on dealing with board floods without him?
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>>122453793

That's nonsense. Priest has infinitely more removal than freeze has threats and we're living in a justicar era where hero power heals for 4. You don't even need to run flash heals in your deck, just one light of naaru and hero power a turn is enough to make sure he never kills you. His usual burst is Alex for 15 then 16 damage.
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>>122454057
Not him, but I don't have Geddon, either. I just run 2 Brawls, and have made space for 2 Whirlwinds somehow. It's a decent substitution.
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How meme would Deathwing+Fist of Jaraxxus be?
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>>122454021

You can try double brawl if you don't have geddon.
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>>122454185
post list?
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>>122454189
Meme as fuck. But you need 2 Leper Gnomes on board too for maximum meme.
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>>122454189
so supreme

ya gotta scream
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>>122454189
Not as bad as you think it would be.
A 12/12 plus 8 face damage can easily close out a game especially if you've baited their BGH.
It's a shame Warlocks can't equip weapons without randomization. You should run Blingtron and Harrison for more functional memes
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>>122454237
Sure, man. Not the greatest deck, but it serves me well.
I also don't have Sylvannas in, but I actually plan on putting her in, whereas I'm not sure I'd take out a Brawl for Geddon.
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A little late, but guess I can go do something else for now.
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Should I be crafting Lightbombs or Cabals first for Priest?
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>>122454021
He's really really nice to have, very useful and can bait BGH too. You can replace him with revenge if you want.

I run him + 2 brawls
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Anyone else loving the jewled scarab? Played him in mage and shaman today and loved it.

I play kind of a tempo/control mage, its a version of kiblers "fireworks" deck and scarab has been nice as a one off. Let me get an extra duplicate v a control warrior and its saved me with a clutch frost nova one game.

In shaman I played 2. Shaman has so many good 3's so its pretty nice. Extra hex's v control, extra storms v aggro, good stuff.
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>>122454571
Lightbomb unless you're using 1-2 shrinkmeisters.
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I didn't sign up for this.

My apologies, to whoever I will face in ranked.
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>>122454571

Doesn't matter you want both eventually and both are good on their own.
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>>122454650
>>122454571
Also, you could try one of each instead of crafting 2 of one.
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>>122454571
Lightbombs. Hell, I only run one cabal these days without any shrinkmeisters
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>>122454126

Just this morning I straza'd a Control priest, he dropped Justicar and healed to 21, and then I went pyroblast frostbolt ice Lance ice Lance for exact lethal. He gave me all the time in the world to search for combo pieces because again, no burst. His board was more or less perma frozen.

So much for "never kills you."
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>>122454650
>>122454724
>>122454736
>>122454738
K I'll try one of each, starting with Lightbomb
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>>122454887
That's a good idea rather than double cabal or lightbomb.

Though you will realise why most people run double lightbomb soon enough
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>tfw my control Pally is probably indistinguishable from Secret Pally and Eboladin most of the time, because Pally earlygame is just that fucking broken and I win before getting my big guys out
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>>122454560
The fuck am I looking at?
3 wins and 3 losses doesn't equal 100% you stupid shit.
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>>122454823
Most freeze mages don't play pyroblast. But honestly if freeze mages are problem to priest, it's pretty easy to tech against it. Thoughtsteals are great card in control matchups any way and kezan stealing Ice block is almost insta win. Mage needs some crazy Tony-rollings to win that.
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>>122454954
Well I played against a midrange pally recently and he had a chance to play like 4 justicar turns against me as priest. Ysera's a big girl though
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>>122455028

Ouch. I put the wrong label. It should be "Total" instead of "Loss".
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Is Dr. Boom still the go-to first to craft legendary for a new player? Do you think he'll still be a good card in most decks 2-3 seasons from now or will Reno Jackson decks render him obsolete? This is my third season playing the game and I finally have enough dust to make one.
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>>122455037
>Most freeze mages don't play pyroblast
Are you memeing me senpai
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>>122455129
Yes, in fact Dr. Boom is good against Reno decks because he gives you insane board control.
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>>122455037

Pyroblast wasn't even the deciding factor, I had a fireball and another frostbolt in hand which combined with the ping is 10 damage all the same.

No Priest is going to run thoughtsteals and kezan just to improve a single matchup because it'd hurt them too much against aggro.
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>>122455129
He's been the best lego since GvG and Blizzard doesn't have any plans to nerf him
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>>122455129

Boom isn't an aggro or combo card so I doubt Reno will have any effect on him.
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Is my deck good enough?
My strategy is counter everything and hope your opponent concedes.
I'm still thinking of putting a Flash Heal for those stupid Alextraza combos.
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How do you guys deal with aggro druid? He will kill you even with reno.
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>>122455257
You're a control deck with no late game
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>>122454823

You do realize that is a very unlikely scenario? You emperor'd a hand with almost your entire burn damage in it AND you claim you had him permafrozen up until that point. In the same extreme scenario I can say what if priest sw:d'd your alex and then double flash healed himself? Or what if he throughtstole your ice block? You average follow up burst is usually either 2 fireballs and bolt for 15 or thalnos fireball bolt/lance for 16. Control Priest that's running plenty of healing on average outheals that, unlike dragon priest for example.
>>
LoE has a goddamn orgasmic theme.
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>>122455185
Well Kezan also works against almost any mage and hunter decks and can do something against Ray Mysterio decks. Thoughtsteals are bad in aggro matchups but as I said, it's great against other control decks so it's ok choice if ladder is control infested.
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>>122455307
I don't have any late game cards.
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>>122455371
No legendaries? Do you have any of the adventures? Faceless Manipulator even?
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Not to be a bigot but is druid of the fang a homosexual? He sounds flamboyant.
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>>122455435
First wing of Naxx and BRM only.
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>>122455371
Dude, boulderfist ogres lmao. Or temple enforcers. They aren't the optimal choices but they'll do the job until you get legos to replace them.
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>>122455286
Hope I draw into removal before he fel reavers.

Playing against aggro is a crapshoot, you just gotta hope you draw well
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>>122455473
Surely you got get something cheap? Even a single Kraken could help, it's like a common too
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>>122455439
More like Druid of the Fa-bulous.
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>>122455473
Just put some 6-9 mana big guys into your deck that are available to you.
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>actually ran into a secret pally that used the new secret
>it even killed my thaurissan
>it didn't matter in the slightest because he had already lost the board and had no hope of killing me

Glad to see pally shitters being dumb enough to put that thing in their decks instead of competitive spirit.
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>>122455318

>what if he swd alex

As if the body matters. I didn't even attack with it since he had a 2/12 deathlord on board, and he still died.

The reason I had all my burn and freezing stuff is precisely because as control priest he was unable to put enough pressure and instead gave me time to fish for them.

I can't believe we're even arguing this, CP is one of the best matchups for freeze, this is common knowledge.
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>I AM MALGANIS, I AM E-
>I got the beast in my sight

Nerf when? This fucking card is making me paranoid already.
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>Playing me Iron Jugg deck
>Enemy Warrior plays Varian
>He draws the two mines

Epic. Simply Eric.
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>>122455612


Could you even imagine a meta without BGH? terrifying.
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>>122455473
If I were you I'd try head for last two BRM wings for Chromaggus (good Ysera substitute) and Nefarian. Thing is, Naxx has overall more useful cards if you don't exclusively play priest

Dust should be saved up for either Boom, Syl or Ysera
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>Prophet Velen from a pack
Keep for Auchenai meme decks or dust it?
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>>122455612
I've literally never seen a Mal'Ganis live for 2 turns when I play against warlock. Everyone knows to save their stuff for that fucker since he's so strong
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>>122454126
if you're assuming CP has a good matchup against Freeze Mage because CW does, you're wrong

Control Priest's inability to go above 30 health fucks them in this matchup, and its inability to put any pressure whatsoever gives freeze mage ample time to assemble their combo

it was the same with miracle/oil vs priest. 0 pressure, the rogue just assembles combo and destroys them.
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>>122455715
Only if you need the dust.

>>122455667
Or he could even switch to a dragon priest if he did that
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>>122455741
Well if you get to keep Mal'ganis for 2+ turns the game is over anyway.
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>>122455741
The best feeling is killing a voidcaller and BGHing Mal'ganis before he finishes talking. Your opponent doesn't even get any of his benefits and its predictable too
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>>122455247
>>122455230
>>122455184
But with the same dust I could make a pretty good cancer aggro druid deck with 2 fel reavers and 2 force of nature. That deck still wants a dr boom but those four cards would have a bigger impact than just the boom alone. I'd like to be able to make something fun like a ragnaros or saraad but looking at the long term I'd get more cards faster by crafting to fotm cancer.
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>>122455976
4 epics has a bigger impact than 1 lego true.

But you gotta realise that almost every deck uses boom. If you craft 2 Meme Reavers and 2 Farces of Nature, you only invest 1600 dust in a single deck (though midrange exists).

Make a Boom and you've invested 1600 dust in the majority of decks and classes out there
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>>122455976
What this nigga said: >>122456073
Also getting epics is more likely than getting legos and you get at least one vanilla pack per week from brawl anyway for those FoNs.
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Would Freeze Mage shoot to top tier if they had access to some anti armour card?
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>>122455592

We're arguing this because in your scenario you had everything going for you and nothing going for him. You do realize 6 points of heal from 15 to 21 is BELOW AVERAGE for control priests and 21 damage a single turn is ABOVE AVERAGE for freeze mage. In fact it's pretty much nigh maximum amount of damage you can do. You must be confusing dragon with control priest. Dragons lose to freeze cp doesn't.

>>122455804

No, I'm speaking from my personal experience since I play both of those decks. I feel like CP is favored, not as much as druids and far away from CW. I just feel like mage is the one praying for good draws in that matchup.
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>>122456351
>shoot to top tier
Its already a top tier deck
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>>122456073
>>122456171
That's a good point guys thanks for the advice, I think I'll go for the boom then. I'm not going to buy individual packs and the chances of opening a boom are far lower than getting decent epics from other packs. I'd rather make epics one at a time to go with an epic I've already opened.
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>>122456351

Seeing how druids and cws shit on them, the answer is yes then again flares and kezans would shoot them back down to tier 2. It's never going to be a good deck for ladder.
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Freeze mage is the thinking man's go to deck.
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>>122420993
WITNESS THE POWER OF PURE WATER

Or King Krush's stomping
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>>122455473
you messed up, you should've gotten all of naxx and first wing of brm
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>>122420993

>grommash hellscream

But that's not how you spell Iron Sensei, anon.

>Come close, and listen
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Is Rag worth keeping? Ragnaros and Jaraxxus are my only two legendaries, but I'm only 400 dust away from Dr. Boom.

Near as I can tell he's a replaceable card for Control Warrior, and that's about it.
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Does Cursed Blade double ALL damage to the enemy hero? So if I SMOrc him on my turn I'll do double damage?
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>>122456803
He's used in Tempo Mage and Grim Patron
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>>122456817
Yup. That's why it sucks so bad.
Plus it has 3 durability so you have to swing it a ton to get rid of it. Should've been a 4/3 for 2 mana
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>>122456803

Keep ragnaros, if you still need dust you can dust some of the other worthless cards you have.
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Where we at?
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>>122456909
Can't wait to receive it from Blingtron

Meme so supreme
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>>122456960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7PJRj6MINw
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Do I have any chance with a vanilla deck? I rarely play this, but now whenever I jump on I get wrecked by a but of powerful cards I don't have, my deck is a shaman deck built somewhat around swarming and bloodlust
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Rate my rank 16 deck
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>>122456375
I don't want to sound like a sheep just parroting opinions, but even pros consider Control Priest to be unfavorable against Freeze Mage

http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/hearthstone/497747-power-ranks-blizzcon-finalists-special-edition

It's considered an unfavorable matchup, along with all other combo-based decks for the reason I explained (CP puts no board pressure which lets combo decks just assemble their super 30dmg combo)
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>>122457292
>booty bay bodyguard
>no jousts
nice try, faggot
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>>122457292
>booty bay bodyguard
check out evil heckler senpai, also toss lord of the arena, it's shit, add like boulderfist ogres or something
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Why could museum curator have been a 2/2, there is no reason that it couldn't have been a 2/2, priest has no 2 drops outside of dragon priest, 1/2 will only ever be useful against 1 drops unless you buff it to all hell.

Yes it generates a lot of value but that doesnt stop the stats being dogshit.
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>enter thread
>there is a Shieldbearer that thinks Priest beats Freeze Mage
lmao never change /hsg/
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>>122457960
because priest and 2 drops
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>>122457960
It's a deck extender, which for CP is better than a card draw with a high probability of giving you a good card since you can pick from 3.

1/2 is fair since it's meant for a control deck, and can contest shitty 1hp aggro minions.
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>>122458067
I get that, but it cant contest anything substantial either like a knife juggler, games as preist are won or lost based on whether you can clear the knife juggler when it drops turn 2,and this guy cant do that. Thats a huge issue.

When we compare this card to mad scientist (which has an even stronger effect) it seems nonsensical for this card to be weaker than mad scientist.
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>>122458158
I agree it's weaker than mad scientist in both effect and stats but scientist is retardedly overpowered.

it could be a 1/1 and that piece of shit would still be played
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>>122458242
Not really. In Freeze Mage sure, but Tempo Mage and Hunter would cut it.
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>saraad gives me flare against secret paladin
>flare draws me my death for the challenger

Feels good, man
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>>122427738
>Reno compares every card in deck with every other one.

Reno Jackson a comp sci freshman homework confirmed.
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>>122458242
I guess the overall point im making is that aggro decks have retardedly op shit like mad scientist, knife juggler and minibot but control decks (particularly control priests) tend to get shafted by their early drops.

Its hard to play defensively when the sheer power playing on curve gives aggro is overwhelming.
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>everyone hyped for reno jackson freeze mage
>people will play warriors to counter freeze mage
>I'll play midrange combo druid + kezan to counter both

thoughts /hsg/?
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>>122458301
Thinning your deck is really good though, and drawing+playing a secret for free is far more of a tempo gain than the tempo loss from playing a 2mana 1/1 for both hunter and tempo mage, in my opinion at least.

>>122458359
I think the bigger problem is those cards are way too strong rather than curator is too weak, but I do see what you mean.
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>>122457960
>>122458067
Museum Curator is a good card but Warlock got an even better card, which is absolutely disgusting.

Peddler and Curator should have their stats swapped.
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>>122458409
Everything's going to change when wing 2 comes out. And then wing 3. And then wing 4
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>>122458310
Your opponents face when.
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>>122458428
>warlock is intended to have shit card quality to compensate for overpowered hero power
>gets good cards anyway

>priest has the worst hero power in the entire game
>isn't allowed to have a good 2 drop because "balance"
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>>122458418
It really isn't. Before Mad Scientist would kill Juggler for example and set up the Freezing to fuck up their Shredder. Afterwards Juggler, Aspirant whatever can just kill it AND be the minion to trigger the trap all in one.
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>>122458510

Brann is going to hit the meta hard. I can feel it.
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>>122458564
Aspirant can already do that though.

I'll give you that juggler can't, but turn 2 juggler is usually only played when there's no other option left. The typical strong turn 2 and even some turn 1 (zombie chow) plays can all do exactly what you describe even now (aspirant, minibot, creeper sorta, etc)
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to begin with, I don't understand the appeal of playing a netdeck. You didn't construct that, how is it meaningful at all to win with that deck?

And beyond that, I don't understand the appeal of tempo mages and secret Paladins. On top of playing a deck you didn't make, you're not even making decisions. Mages and Paladins just spill their hands out with 0 decision making or gameplay depth.
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>>122458659

Someone dig up that Playing To Win article and link it to this guy.
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>>122458659

People are stupid and lazy, the end.
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>>122458659
Google "Timmy, Johnny and Spike"
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>>122458659
I don't understand the appeal of playing in the first place.

You can literally get the full experience just by watching a stream, except you also get some degree of social interaction as well.
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I'm on 10 wins with this deck, one game to go :^)
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When the fuck is Massan getting banned from Twitch?
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>>122420993

>I am the dancing master!
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>>122458757

This article implies that there are players who aren't Spike. The Hearthstone version of this article would be titled "Spike"
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>>122420993
DOOOOOM FOR EVERRRYYYONEEE
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>>122458931
Why not send this to Twitch or maybe even Reddit? It might be a good idea since they might make a huge drama about that.
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>>122458931

Nobody here can do anything about this and mostly don't care

go post it to reddit for karma or something faggot christ, this is twitches problem now ours
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>>122458931
shut up he is our guy there is no viewbot
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>>122458931
Why you care so much? Why do you think we care?
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>>122458931
>>122459126
>>122459196
>>122459229
>>122459239
>Same IP
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Noooo! I was going so well
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>>122459392

Nice to see an obscure card shine in it's intended role.
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>>122459392
>tf2 player caught with his pants down
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>>122459346
>posted hours ago
>canĀ“t come back
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>>122459346

nobody cares faggot fuck off
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>>122459458
It's EVE Online, not TF2
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>>122459512

Its a hat reference, anon.
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>>122459586
Oh, I thought he was referring to my mumble overlay or something, my bad.
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>>122459512
>EVE Online
People still play that shit?
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>>122458931
message twitch, holy shit
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Regretting dusting some epics now that Reno is making some cards vial be because you need to fill the deck up
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reno is cancer
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>>122459656
>He doesn't do cap escalations and dump inordinate sums of isk on blingfit pvp
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>>122459707
>t. aggrobabby
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>play arena trying to flee secret paladin
>tfw even in arena there's no escaping the cancer
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>>122459707
You mean chemo
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>>122459656

I play it by not playing and thats literally how it's supposed to work. It's like paying for child support. The next time I'm due to log in is in 178 days.
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>>122459656
Sure it's actually pretty fun if you really get into it. It's issues are mainly due with the players than anything.
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>>122459780
For some reason I hardly see any Secret Paladins on EU. It's all Tempo Mages and Aggro Druids all of the time.
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>>122459863

Nah. The game is only fun in theory. If you're actually having fun then you're an exception.

EVE is pretty much just a spreadsheet simulator and ship model viewer.
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new bread

>>122460016
>>122460016
>>122460016
>>122460016
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>>122459831
>The next time I'm due to log in is in 178 days.
Do you pay a subscription for that?
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>>122449521
>goblin rates more expensive but just as good

seems legit
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>>122420993
HE HE HE HE UH HA HA HA
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>>122459656
Yeah, people play EVE so my friend have steady job in CCP. Keep supporting him, thx bb.
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>>122423751
>One meme, one kill.
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