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(´∩。• ᵕ •。∩`) Binding my waifulith edition (´∩。• ᵕ •。∩`)

Last thread: >>122352862

ARG Patch
Added The Keeper (unlocked by donating 1000 coins to the greed machine) and new items:

Keeper now holds... a single fucking penny
Rib of Greed
Keeper's Store Key
Karma
Sticky Nickels
Deep Pockets

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that cum that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.

>How to unlock The Keeper?
Donate 1000 coins to the greed machine.
If you're not up for autistic level of grinding, use cheat engine;
1. First scan for the value you have in the greed machine.
2. If only one result, change it to 999.
3. If not, donate one coin and try again.
4. Repeat step 3 until it works.

>The Keeper has no sprite and dies instantly!
Remove players.xml from your resources folder.

>How to unlock The Lost?
This time, I found the seeds.
Isaac: 6028 LLMK - Must be on normal. Use the curse room to cut yourself and go left for the allah akbars.
Maggy: ALFA 0NTS - Bomb drop in caves 1, below the spawn. Again, cut yourself first.
Judass: AW0M SLC7 - Normal difficulty. Pretty good seed, should be easy to get to mommy.

Want to use Keeper without all the hassle?
>Reset until you find D20 in the shop (takes less than 5 minutes on average since D20 is in multiple shop pools)
>Go to next floor with D20
>Do Waves 1-10 without picking up any coins
>Reroll coins into chests, open chests, buy battery in shop, use D20 again, repeat until game broken
>Get blue hourglass and chaos card
>Enjoy your Keeper and 100+ Eden tokens
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>Rebirth adds 4 new characters
>1 great, 2 alright, 1 total shit
>Afterbirth adds 2 new charactrs
>1 perfect waifu struck down in her prime, 1 even worse than the worst character

where do we go from here
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>people drawing the characters female
>when it's still intended do be isaac
>almost no trap lillith/maggie/eve art

why god.
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post yfw
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>>122420712
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>>122420646
because your fetish is fucking awful
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When did this general turn so shit?
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xrcv
42c0

enjoy the maximum bomb run
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>>122420712
>jera + sack head
my new favorite
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>>122421401
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>>122421401
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>>122421360
all generals have always been shit, anon
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>>122420646
it's all in isaac's head
each character is a different being
fuck off and die, fag.
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>>122421516
>>122421657
What the fuck was it.
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>Looking through unpacked afterbirth files
>Thinking about respriting some of the babies
>Realize I'll never see them anyway
>Even if I release them I doubt anyone will ever see them because there's over 6 gorillion babies
>mfw this knowledge
>mfw Edmund didn't just go with the original idea to make them imaginary friends which would've given him more opportunities for variation and would've fit fine with the game anyway
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>>122423846
demon cock
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>Your waifu is a baby factory

Balance mods when? Fucking hell, Afterbirth sucked the fun out of the game
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>>122423846
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/122419626/#122421401
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>>122424184
>Balance mods when
In the new DLC :^)
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>>122423869
>New Character announced
>another ARG ensues where the result is that someone literally eats a hundred dollar steak and then sucks Edmund's Dick to add the new content
>The Imagination is unlocked once you unlock every Co-Op Baby that isn't related to Imagination's Unlocks
>their icon depicts a pure black baby with a ? for a face
>The Imagination allows you to play as a random Co-Op Baby, eventually gaining the ability to pick which one you want to be once you get all of their Post-It Unlocks
>every single Post-It is another Co-Op Baby
>there's also a new achievement called 1002%
>you can only unlock it once 1001% is unlocked and you complete both Hard Mode AND Greed Mode with every single Co-Op Baby
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for real though where the fuck would you spend 100 bucks on a steak? the highest I've ever seen a steak go is $50 and that's including shit like potatoes and drinks and like 3 other sides
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Speed killed any enjoyment i had for this game, not including the epic steak memes and ARG for less than 100 people to participate while everyone else gets to sit in a room lit by a monitor and wait for their DLC they paid for to get patched in. I fucking hate videogames.
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>>122424821
http://www.killenssteakhouse.com/menu.html
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>>122424673
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WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CO-OP BABIES

LITERALLY WHY

WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT
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>>122425416
For all the local co-op you'll play in front of your PC in your cave, anon.
Online? What's that?
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I know how to make the game better!
>Remove all babies except for the one's unlocked at mom's heart.
>You can't play multiplayer with that character until you beat mom's heart.
>All of the time spent making co-op babies goes to better, more important things.
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>>122425416
So Smegmund can play with his Wife.
No, seriously. That's basically the only time he actually plays Isaac is when it's Co-Op with his Wife.
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>>122425107
>A 20% gratuity will be added to all parties of 8 or more
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>>122424673
> New DLC that costs 100 dollars.
> Claims to be the biggest expansion ever, including never before seen mechanics and goodies.
> People buy/pirate it.
> It's just the same game with a new character and some new items.
> The new character plays like Link for Legend of Zelda.
> Data miners can't find anything other than a lot of missing asset and cryptic post-its.
> Edmund drops cryptic hints everywhere and people try to solve it.
> Forums exploding into a flame war because people aren't getting what they paid for.
> Edmund claims this new ARG is "bonus content", and wasn't part of the promise. Claims the new character is the new experience.
> Years go by, no one solves the ARG, leaving people stuck with Link.
> People are demanding refunds.
> Edmund is sued by Nintendo.
> He commits suicide.
> The 100 dollar expansion becomes infamous and is removed from the store, everyone receives their refunds if they requested it.
> Several months later, someone finally solves the riddle.
> yfw Edmunds suicide was all part of the ARG.
> People locate his grave site and dig him out.
> Inside the coffin is his body and a message saying this was a social experiment to see how far people would go to get virtual items.
> A shadow looms over the grave robbers.
> It's Gaben
> He hands them the rights to Binding of Isaac and the source code.
> With a nod, he leaves them fading into the fog.
> The hunters look deep into the source code and everything Edmund left behind.
> They find a steam key that was encrypted.
> They run in through one of their steam accounts.
> Their steam client crashes and shuts down.
> They open it back up, there's an update.
> Half Life 3.
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>>122426253
10/10 I cri ever tim
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>Playing as Azazel in Greed Mode
>First floor shop contains discounted Tammy's Head and a Car Battery
Welp, I win.
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>tiny room bosses
just
why
why is this a thing
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>>122426253
wew lad
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>Magic Mushroom + Capricorn + Halo
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>>122427448
Boring as shit.
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>need to get azazel chest clear
>need to also get hush clear
>decide to go hush
>kill hush
>chest appears instead of beam to cathedral and trapdoor to shoel
>even though i've already killed hush before

thanks ed
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>>122425416
So that Egghead and his Korean boyfriend can have maximum fun.
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>>122424673

1002% = Autism the achievement.
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With Jera is it better to duplicate chests or the spoils that chests give?
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So I haven't been on /r/bindingofisaac, what's their opinion of afterbirth? Do they hate it? Or are they sucking ed's dick dry?

I won't go on reddit for obvious reasons.
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>>122428615
Recently they've been ranting on how much artificial difficulty Afterbirth has, and how Edmund ignores the playerbase that performs worse than the rest
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>>122428559
Chests, because if you dupe a chest with an item, the dupe will have one too.
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Tyrone said there is an item nobody found yet.

what if it's unlocked via multiplayer?
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>>122428830
wouldn't surprise me, with so many babies.
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>>122428830
no it's buried at the real life north pole, it's another epic puzzle
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>>122428830
Where?
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Come up with ideas for Co-op babies

>Raw Steak baby
>after getting hit once, the baby dies and leaves 100 pedestals
>they all contain the dollar
>picking any of them up shows a video clip of edmund eating a raw steak
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>20/20+lump of coal+polyphemus+rubber cement+brimstone
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>>122429096
ARG baby

>Can only be unlocked via finding a special code in real life
>The code is hidden within one of thousands of raw steaks nailed to lamp posts
>When it dies in game it crashes your game until you find another code within another steak
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>>122429089
we don't know dummy, no one's found it
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Is Azazel fixed?
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>unlocked the keeper with cheat engine because fuck greed mode
>have no idea how he works
>get swallowed penny early, seems good on keeper
>notice HP ups don't do shit
>take a pill
>it's HP down
>actually lowers my HP
>get one shot later in the floor
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>>122428830

wasn't that posted before we even had the rest of the original items
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>>122428830
Where did he say that?
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>>122429560
>>122429634
It was. Probably Mega Blast.
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>unlocking keeper and other greed donations
>miss chaos card, only have 6 hearts for fight
>die and have to restart
>30 more minutes of D20 grind for items
>donation machine only takes 4 coins before jamming now
>512 coins so far

i am normally a really peaceful anti-violence guy but holy fuck fuck edmund and his retarded autist logic i wish i could punch the guy over and over
actively fucking over your fanbase is not fun or endearing i genuinely wish suffering on the guy now
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>>122429935
use glowing hourglass m80
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>>122429496
yes
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>>122429935
This >>122430074
or Cheat Engine
It's not like it's even a test of skill like with the lost. I felt no remorse doing it and I completed True Platinum God on Rebirth without any cheats.
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>>122430310
Danke.
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Brownie is the most bullshit boss if you have a low fire rate, I don't think any other boss punishes you that badly. What the fuck am I meant to do with Eve's Mascara?
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>Item room
>Explosivo
>Item room
>Explosivo
>Item room
>Explosivo
>Item room
>Explosivo
I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF THIS SHITTY STICKY BOMB TEAR THAT IS LITERALLY A DAMAGE DOWN ON ENEMIES THAT CAN DO ANYTHING MORE THAN WALK IN A STRAIGHT LINE

also it's killed me many times on zombies that run towards you
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>>122430849
>Item Room
>The Bean
>Item Room
>Butter Bean
>Item Room
>Black Bean
>Item Room
>Black Bean
>Item Room
>Mega Bean
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>>122429935
>100+ hours of content :^)

I had a friend who isn't even good at Isaac start a new save file with just mono-Isaac for Greed Mode to test it out. He found out it wasn't even that good without half of the unlocks
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Lillith porn where
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>150+ hours
>Have never seen a Chaos Card
What's the secret?
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>trying to farm greed box
>my run is so broken from picking up almost every item in the game before the glowing hourglass showed up that I can't even fire tears without the game crashing

at one point it crashed my entire computer
>still get 1 penny at a time before the machine jams

Ayyyy got me Edmund
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>>122431224
that's what pisses me off about all this. in order to get most of the cool and fun items into the game, you have to grind out runs on each character. god forbid you want the lost unlocks

but greed mode unlocks, including the keeper, are just fucking retarded. here's another character who offers somewhat of a new mechanic and their own unlocks, but they're behind a fucking 999 coin wall that would take you literally 100+ hours to unlock the legitimate way

like fuck OFF edmund i don't want to spend 800 fucking hours on your game resetting for good items and grinding to get a shit character
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>>122431518
You have to unlock it from the Rebirth challenges, specifically Challenge 9

If you've already done it then you just have some shit luck
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Does that "5%" stand for 50%?
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Does the break rate for the greed machine ever lower? Even characters with 6% chance it busts after 3-4 coins. Switching characters is not a viable way of farming this thing
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why are angel/devil rooms all shit
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>>122432050
angel rooms are great
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>>122432050
You're kidding right? Devil rooms consistently hold some of the best items in the game.

Angel rooms also have some of the best items, but have a much lower chance to contain them.
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So the greed machine % chance to break is not random is it?

I have 20% chance to break on isaac and it jams after one coin literally every single time. Did it about 10 times in a row now with the hourglass.
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>>122431839
Nope!
It stands for 99.
Alternatively, the 5% means how likely you are to donate all of your coins.
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i know this would never happen, but i honestly wish there were built-in mutators. like smash bros style allowed items, or risk of rain's item selection mutator
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>>122431839
You guys really dont understand how math works
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What's the item pool of the bomb beggar?
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>>122432583
bomb-related items
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>>122419626
Any way I can disable the pill's activate animation?
Also retro vision?

it slows me the fuck down.
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>>122432472
Why is there even a percentage in the first place when it almost always jams after the first one or two coins, anyways?
You could have 1% ten runs in a row and it'd still jam.
That kind of RNG isn't natural, it's bullshit.
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>>122432245

It is but it's like already been seeded or something. It did it after every 8 coins for me.
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>>122432812
guess i'm just getting the fat end of edmunds steak dick right now
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>>122431224
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>>122433112
100+ Hours of Greed Mode!
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>>122433112

>Base game "over 500 hours of gameplay!"

>got RPG in around 124 hours (I don't know if this is fast or slow)
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>>122433112
>a whole new alt path
4 rooms and a boss does not constitute an alt path edmund
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>haven't beaten anything with eve except heart and boss rush
>"eve now holds razor blade!"
>finally something that makes her not trash
>have to beat satan with her to unlock it
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>>122433351
I got RPG in about 118. Spamming D4 until only Activated Items show up in the Item Pools in The Chest isn't hard, it's getting Angel/Secret Room Items, The Lost and Meat/Bandage that's obnoxious.
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Can we do challenge runs by giving yourself items with CE like in the old Isaac?
If so do you guys have any fun ideas for challenge runs? Afterbirth is boring af senpai desu
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So, I'm Lilith, I've got pretty high tears, Ipecac, the Habit, box of friends, and through cambion conception I have some demon familiar that bounces around the room with a damaging aura

I just breezed through Boss Rush, but I have low health.

Should I try to beat Hush? Haven't fought it yet, and I was going to try to do the Dark Room. I don't want to die to Hush and miss beating the Dark Room.
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>>122433112
>100+ more hours
Just donating. That's all
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>>122433978
No, your damage doesn't matter vs. Hush it's your survivability and dodging ability.
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>play keeper
>get knife on 2nd floor
>fight mini stan as boss
>whore of babylon
>pethro it cause ill never stay as 1 hp as keeper with wooden nickel
>abbadon
>pick it up
>die

thanks
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>>122433484
just prioritize getting the second floor devil room dawg
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>>122435010
Fun fact, Whore of Babylon wouldn't have done anything for Keeper anyways since he can't have Half Coins.
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>>122435010
Keeper is all about that angel meta man.
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>>122435010
>>122435404
Yeah, WoB only works at one heart for Eve. Every other character only has it at half.
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>>122435010
oh my god that drumstick looks delicious
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>That item that was extreme pure shit in rebirth and was instant reset, and then got buffed to the point it's a run winner by itself and you're crying tears of joy when you have it.
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>>122428238
mmmm sexy
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>>122435691
It's a bug
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>>122435691
until the bugfix releases
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>>122435691

What's that? You're having fun? PATCH INCOMING!
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>>122435404
>>122435505
oh right, i main eve for the most part, i like the speed boost from whore, and forget that sometimes
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>afterbirth ruined the whole game
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>>122435873
>>122435893
>>122435964
I know, and it's really really sad.
Back to "I will never pick you unless I have pyromaniac, which will never happen" tier.
I just don't understand the point of these items. It's not that they are shit like holy water. It's that they are unusable. You simply can't use them.
I wonder if devs are aware that they took time to work on items that NOBODY will use.
As a dev myself, I can't understand that.
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>>122436729
>as a dev myself
what have you made, anon?
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>>122436729
>I wonder if devs are aware that they took time to work on items that NOBODY will use.
Wow, they probably spent a whole HOUR making this item! Such a waste.
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>>122436729
I just realized a majority of the useless items are Activated Items.
Which makes it even worse because you can't pick them up just to get it over with, because then you'll have to replace your actually good item such as the D6.
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>>122436729
It's bad, but it isn't useless. Say you've got no bombs, you've explored the floor, and there's a tinted rock. That's a situation you might use Kamikaze for. Or if you got hit and have polaroid/celtic invincibility. Or if you know you're going to get hit anyway, you can avoid taking more damage than needed.

It's shit, but it isn't useless. I would take it over the bean anyday, anyway.
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>>122435873
>>122435893
>>122435964
>patch releases
>kamikaze still does no self-damage
>but now consume a bomb upon use
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>>122437521
that's like completely the opposite of what "Kamikaze" means
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>>122437338
The Bean is arguably more useful than Kamikaze. Butter Bean, on the other hand, probably is the worst active item in the game.
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>>122436729

I recall hearing that the idea was that you may get shit items and you may get GREAT items. It's about how lucky you are.

But then he goes and nerfs good shit anyway so fuck knows
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which one guys
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>>122437606
>the joke
>your head
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>>122437624
Kamikaze can blow up tinted rocks, open up secret rooms, and does 40 damage.

The bean deals 21 damage + 5 over time, but to actually use it, you need to be extremely close to an enemy, which means you're at a much higher risk of taking damage.

Even butter bean is more useful than the bean, since if you're being cornered, you can use it to give yourself extra time.
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>>122437828
right
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>>122437828
Honestly ? none of them.
But mascara can be good if you get enough tears up, or if you get something like monstro's lung that will let you clean the room in one hit.
Explosive tear is basically a huge damage down. Have fun killing enemies that can go FUCKING INVINCIBLE, or teleport, or go underground, etc
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>>122438097
>Explosive tear is basically a huge damage down.
What?
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>>122438342
The sticky will fall off the enemy without exploding if the enemy can jump, teleport, or burrow.
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>>122438414
But it's not a damage down.
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>Playing o linux
>IV bag is still in the game

I'm eating slowly edmund, ty.
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>>122438475
the sticky tears don't do damage when they attach to enemies, so if it doesnt explode, it means less damage
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>>122436729
>I wonder if devs are aware that they took time to work on items that NOBODY will use.
>As a dev myself, I can't understand that.

Cruelty. Sadism. Huehuehue.
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>>122438643
If it explodes on more than 50% of enemies it's still worth taking.
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so what's the deal with hush, blue womb, and that purgatory area teased with the new ending?

if it weren't for the fact that the game's been datamined, i'd say there's more stuff to find.

but i doubt it
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>>122438918
Hush is the new ending.
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>>122438694
>Fuck off Edmund.
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Remember when we thought the blue womb would be a real floor?
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>>122436729

Why are you under the impression that Edmund's design philosophy for this game is that it should be fun?

>Trying the Guardian Challenge.
>Playing flawlessly.
>Get to Mom.
>It's Red Mom.
>Literally nothing I can do to prevent my death.

>Retry.
>Scolex on Womb 1.
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>>122438475
Except if you have very low damage, explosive tears is a damage down in the fact that it delays your damage.
Here have an example :
>polyphemus cricket head tear on an enemy, it dies as soon as the tear hits.
>explosive tears on an enemy, it sticks, you have to wait till it explodes while taking care of not getting too close.
>most of the time if your damage is high the enemy will die to your regular tear before it detonates, thus making the explosive tear useless and a wasted tear compared to a regular one
>sometime, the enemy will make the explosive tear useless by teleporting/going underground/etc
I call that a damage down

So basically, with same damage stat, assuming your damage and rate of fire is not shit, you will kills enemies faster without explosive tears. So I call that a damage down, cause technically, it is.
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>>122438643
>"polyphemus is effectively a damage down, how am i supposed to hit fast moving enemies?"
>>
is there a way for me to see what items I have rolled in a pool in a current game? I think this dumb fucking car battery + d6 accidentally rolled over the blue hourglass.
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>>122438918
It's all there specifically to not make any sense and fuck with fan theories.

You think there's actually any connection between any of the shit in this game? Apparently Isaac is ???, It Lives, The Lost, and The Keeper all at once, despite the fact that Isaac can encounter three of those individuals in a run, effectively being able to kill himself two different times, and somehow die himself in two different spots to spawn three seperate post-death selves.
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>>122439072
You should not focus on one enemy then. When tears sitcks just shoot at other enemies.
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>>122439152
What? That's not a comparable scenario
Polyphemus is way more reliable than fucking explosivo
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>>122439058
Is it still possible for the fucker to just stand still on spikes?
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>>122439072
i found it super useful when i also had a lump of coal. attaches to enemies, just keeps expanding until it explodes. damage is HUGE there, and also sometimes took out an enemy near it. good run there.
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>>122439382

I've gotten pretty "lucky", if you can call it that, as I've never had the punching bag run into spikes or red poop on any of my (failed) runs.

I feel sorry for Punching Bag. He used to be one of my favorite items, but now I can't even stand to look at him.
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>>122439152
That's not true.
But if you replace polyphemus with eve's mascara you would be right.
Also, unless your tear rate is already maxed, odd thin mushroom is technically a damage up.
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>>122439209
please help
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>>122439593
This is the truth, yet the game attempts and fails to be 2deep4u all the fucking time.
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>playing Keeper
>Swallowed Penny on first floor
>Restock in the first shop
Gonna be one of those runs.
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>The Keeper doesn't even start with an increased angel room chance.
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>>122439892
Why should he?
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>>122439892

>The Keeper doesn't get anything from beating the most difficult boss in the game, save for 1 fucking penny.
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>>122440113
it's ed's way of saying stop fucking playing now
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>>122439892
they should've just made his health to not count as red hearts for the purpose of getting devil/angel rooms
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>>122440185

Well maybe I want to keep fucking eating my damn steak, Edmund.
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Hey guys, wanna see something funny?
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>>122440862
kek
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>>122440862
DO IT
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>>122440952
>>122440959
wow, i rerolled 3 times and the shit you start with is unrerollable
gg steakmund
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>>122440113
Everything regarding the Keeper is Ed saying Fuck You for what happened with The Lost
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>>122440862
>tfw pyromaniac negates kamikaze and you will actually take damage now.
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Please don't sexualize the characters.
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>>122433351
took me about 140
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>>122433438
It's not even an alternate to anything, it's a side mission of sorts. Is Edmund just mentally defective?
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I picked up mutant spider on the Keeper.
Send help, my tears take over 2 seconds between shots.
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>>122441461
Yes
>autism
>neckbeard
>manbaby
>retarded
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>>122433112
>New alt path
My fucking sides
>100+ Hours
How fucking delusional do you even have to be to think that Greed Mode will add 100 more hours to anything
>New alt floors
That's a stretch since they have nothing going for them beyond new textures and music
>tons (of) new enemies
There's what, like 5 actually new enemies and the rest are all "X but it explodes on death"
>Super secrets
Don't fucking even
>more poop
LOVE this meme
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>>122441381
Something something Adversary's feet
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>>122438918
>purgatory area
yeah wait a minute

why did I even fucking look at the blog posts when they were all lies
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>>122441098

And he'll still deny it despite it being plain as fucking day. That much salt cannot be healthy.

Why else would he run an ARG where only a fraction of a single percent of people can even participate because it had to be finished by going to a fucking neighborhood in California, if not to ensure people who are better at using computers than he is couldn't crack whatever he had in store?
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>>122438694
/ck/ is a magical place
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>yfw Florian made a better expansion by himself in Flash
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>>122442445
>Implying
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>>122442445
Both of them are trainwrecks.
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>>122442445
The Eternal Update's only redeeming quality is that it's free.
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>>122441037
are you kidding me?

that's how I beat half the original rebirth challenges lol
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>>122442445
>implying florian's eternal clusterfuck is better than afterbirth
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>>122442761
Afterbirth's only redeeming quality is that it has co-op babies.
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>>122442602
>>122442805
>>122442761
I certainly had more fun with it
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700 greed kills later and I have a new shit character to play.
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>>122443040
anon
all you had to do was cheat engine it
you didn't have to go this far
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>>122443040
>playing normal mode
Dude, save yourself some time and play in hard.
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>>122443040
>774

Get on my fucking level faggot, I have 851 and counting.

I got the greed machine to 999 once, and I am doing again since it reset when I unlocked keeper.
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>>122443167
I don't care about godhead that much.
Hard mode just makes you have to deal with asstons of champion enemies so every room takes significantly longer to clear unless you actually manage to find damage items.
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>>122443276
nigger what the fuck
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>>122443167
But these enemies can give you bombs, batteries, money or keys.
Play hard dude. The game is not harder. The only difference is that you will unlock more things.
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>>122441615
Pray you can get Polyphemus and then Libra.
Then you'll get to have fun until you blow up something too close to you
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Come up with a hip new gamemode that's mpre fun than Greed Mode
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ayy
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Does it matter in what order you get Soy milk/Libra?
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>>122443589

Some kind of bizarre mashup between Super Meat Boy and Isaac.
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>>122443480
>the only difference is that you will unlock more thing
Fixed.
No one cares about fucking co-op babies ed.
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>>122443659
Libra is constantly rebalancing your stats, so I don't think it matter when you grab Libra.
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can missingno run out of items?
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>>122435691
>Have this
>Having loadsa fun
>Get Bomber Boy
>ohboyherewego
>It cancels out the bug
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>>122438070
Kamikaze makes you lose a full soul heart.
Is it even worth bombing anything for that?
>>
Holy shit, BRAINS! is a fucking chore.
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>>122443589
Something like rogue legacy.
No more floors, but interconnected, big areas.
You have a limited time to beat all bosses (2 per area) to unlock the final area with mega satan. Boss rush before mega satan fight, ala mega man.
Defeating all bosses without being hit unlock an alternate final area with the Hush.
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>>122444192
>doing pretty well in brains, but low on hp
>get to boss of womb 1
>teratoma
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>>122443594
How in the hell did you accomplish that misery?
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>>122444181
1 for 2 is a good deal, anon. Besides, if you don't have any in the first place and already did the boss, you can take as much red heart damage as you want.
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>>122444334
I'd assume
>Speed down pill
>Taurus
>Lard
>Thunder Thighs
>>
which one
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>>122444360
Tinted rocks don't always give you two soul hearts, or even one soul heart.
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>>122444467
Top right! Infestation 2
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>>122444487
Yeah and DLCs don't always give you fun but I bought Afterbirth anyway
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>Completing this challenge unlocks 2 new pill effects: Re-Lax (Drop a trail of poop, like Explosive Diarrhea would) and ??? (Applies a Curse of the Maze effect for the floor, which cannot be negated with Curse removal items).
>??? (Applies a Curse of the Maze effect for the floor, which cannot be negated with Curse removal items)
it probably counts as neutral too
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>>122444467
Top right is probably the best with your build, but bottom right may be fun if you want more explosions at the cost of some of your tears not doing damage.
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>>122444467
>Dunce Cap
>20/20
How do those synergize?
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>>122444579
They both do.
Enjoy your increasingly bloated pill pool.
Percs is somewhat nice I guess if you find more than one.
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>>122444664
2 shots in each direction.
>>122444610
I picked Explosivo. Things are blowing up,
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>>122444664
20/20 causes a second tear to spawn alongside each other. It's fucking outstanding on it's own, even better with triple shot/quad shot.
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>>122445048

>Tumor Transformation + 20/20 + Triple Shot + Quad Shot.
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I have an idea for a challenge.

>Keeper
>Polyphemus
>20/20
>Dunce Cap
>The Inner Eye
>Mutant Spider
>>
I hate that there's a fucking LIST to the amount of bosses that just take a hot steaming pile of SHIT all over The Guardian challenge
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>>122445257
>no soy milk
Not trying hard enough.
>>
ezpz
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>>122445257
And then tractor beam so all the tears go in one spot.
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>>122445360
I have an idea for a challenge !
>tiny planet
>soy milk
Sounds super fun !
>>
fuck this shitty zero content game
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>>122445484
>having to aim
nah family. rubber cement
>>
>epipiphoria doesn't work with lilith
fuck
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>>122445371
That list is even bigger for the speed! one.
It even includes mini bosses and some rooms.
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>>122445520
STILL haven't beaten that challenge
I can't tell you the number of times I've tried it and just get the worst fucking items imaginable
>>
so what will make keeper fixed?
what will make keeper fun?
imo make nickels act like soul hearts, dimes act like eternals and grant a coin container
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>>122445645
Man up, senpai.
I got Mom's Knife and Red Mom for my final boss and still beat it.
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>>122445713
I thought maybe "free shop items, no restock in pool" was a good idea
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>>122445713
He can pick up heart/coin containers.
There's literally no reason he shouldn't.
He's a fucking inverse Blue Baby. Blue Baby is Isaac after he suffocated in the Chest, and the Keeper is Isaac after he hung himself in the secret room.

Blue Baby can only have spirit hearts, making active play more dangerous and making devil rooms more risky, and the Keeper can only have red hearts/coins, and each container is halved, making active play more dangerous and making devil rooms more risky.
He didn't have to make him into a bullshit asshole fucking 2-hit character.

How much you want to FUCKING bet that Edmund is going to say "OH NO, KEEPER IS MEANT TO GAIN HEALTH FROM CONTAINERS, THAT WAS JUST A BUG :^)"
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>>122445713
Immaculate Conception.
Cambion Conception.
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>>122445795
>bragging about Mom's Knife and Red Mom of all things and acting like it's challenging
what the fuck
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>>122446048
Mpreg doesn't solve all problems.
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>>122446043
he can totally take devil deals guys! somebody at nicalis missed the bug!
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>>122446120
I take it you've never had Mom's Knife + Tiny Planet before.
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fun run i'm having now, playing as eve. kamikaze in first treasure room.
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>>122446346
Don't throw the knife.
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I WAS AT FULL FUCKING HEALTH BEFORE THIS ROOM
IT HAD LITERALLY 11 OF THOSE FAST AS FUCK TALL RED SPIDERS

FUCK THIS GAME
SUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT
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>>122446446
Which is exactly how I played. Thing is, running into enemies with the knife does shit for damage when you have Soy Milk.
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>>122446467
so you took 1 damage? :^)
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>>122446552
YOUR POST MADE ME ANGRY AS FUCK AND KEEP PLAYING AND I GOT A 48 HOUR ENERGY PILL
THANK YOU
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New item ideas
>passive item that makes you immune to fire, mega stan's and that other boss's fire attacks included
>active item that turns rocks into coins, they turn back into rocks after some time if you don't pick them up
>passive item that changes your tears into a laser projectile that's aimed with a mouse, can be charged for more damage but slower speed, bounces from walls several times
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>>122445713
being able to fire more than one shot per minute
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>>122447741
These are all shit and most people play isaac with a controller
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>>122446878
;)
>>
so is moddingofisaac's login still broken
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>>122447741
Passive item called Stillbirth that omits Afterbirth content from the run you pick it up in

>>122448086
It shouldn't be
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>>122448303
It shouldn't be, but when you're dealing with Valve, nothing makes sense.

I can log in at steampowered.com,
but for whatever reason I can't log in at steamcommunity.com
Doesn't even give me an error message, just clears the fields and calls it a day
>>
So apparently Afterbirth is hot garbage but I'm still jonesing pretty bad to play it, greed mode looks really neat.
A-Anything announced for ps4 yet guys?
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>>122447741
>Steak
>Picking it up will timegate you from going onto the next floor and picking up items
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>>122446379
i haven't had this much fun playing eve in a while jfc.
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>>122448576
Greed mode is super boring, but desu I wasn't really excited by this mode even before release. It's kind of like an easy mode if you wanna test some items.
New tems are ok, the patches ruining things like box of friends are not.
Lilith is super cool, Keeper is super bad.
Blue wonb and Hush feels like a scam really. New alt floors are cosmetic at best.
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>>122449098
How come greed mode's shit? The impression I get is that it's hard as fuck because of the boss at the end that scales with your damage or whatever mega greed does.
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>>122449257
It's not hard in the slightest. I could beat him with The Lost + Holy Mantle with literally 0 trouble.
It's just boring. Every playthrough is the exact same, and this is a game that's mainly popular BECAUSE every playthrough is different.
>>
In other news,

Taurus, speed down, but you get a Chariot effect and over time speed up,

is completely fucking useless in Greed mode. It doesn't even trigger in the main rooms. So it's a Speed Down, no bonus.
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>>122449257
The boss is pretty easy, but boring to fight since he lasts so long. By the time you get to him you'll be near the 12 heart cap anyway.
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>>122449257
The damage-scaling just makes it grindy, not difficult.
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Man just had an AMAZING Onan's Streak run
First floor poly
second floor pyro
quarter
athame
Lazarus' rags into lazarus
Fucking crazy
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>>122449424
i didnt kno that ty
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>>122449369
Huh, yeah I can see that then. That stinks.
I guess I'll at least have my initial fun doing the rounds with all the characters then kind of using it to make cool item combos.

If you get stuff in greed mode it still counts as being unlocked and goes to your progress and shit right? That would be an easy way to track down shit you need.
>>
>>122449257
That's the only difficulty, but Ultra greed pattern is quite simple. The fight is boring, not hard. You can beat him even with shit build if you have enough health.
On the other hand, Hush, while being boring too, can be nearly impossible with certain build (like no orbital mom's knife, or low rate of fire shield tear).

Of course you want to play it since its new, and I hope you will be able to do it buddy. I just hop you won't be disappointed like I was.
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>>122449556
Yeah, it's good for getting 1001% whenever it's fucking fixed/the content is finally implemented, but that's it.

After I finished it with The Lost and the Keeper I swore I'd never play it again.
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>>122449553
The only rooms it works in are rooms where the doors close on entry, I.E. Satan rooms with a demon spawn, Curse rooms with a mob spawn, hatch down rooms with mobs in them, Greed boss and the final boss room.
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>>122449610
I'm still having fun with just regular Rebirth so I should be content for a while at least.
Maybe some of the things people are complaining about will even be fixed by the time I get my version! That would be pleasant.
>>
Yaknow, it feels good to have finished Greed Mode as the Lost without Mantle start (or Mantle at all) and 20/20 Bomb tears.
>>
>>122449736
yeah, I thought Isaac would be something I wouldn't have to worry about holding back on given how relatively good Rebirth's launch was, but I was apparently wrong again!

glad PC's here to bugtest and suck Edmund's dick until he decides to give us EXTRA CONTENT as CHARITY before just letting the other systems have it when they pay for it
>>
>>122449814
Feels pretty good to have not bothered with Lost pre-Mantle.
>>
i just 2 shooted mega satan, brimstone + marked + epic featus + tons of damage is ridiculos, nothing survived me
>>
1125
>>
>Mega satan as the Lost
The ride never ends. Angel room ? Nope, here have red chests full of spiders.

Got a good run ? Too bad, here have Bloat in a tiny room, have fun.
This fucking steak man. The best fucking feeling is that I already beat Mega Satan pre-afterbirth with this fucking char.
>>
>>122451124
>he didn't unlock the holy mantle
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>>122451256
>he actually played the game he bought when he bought it instead of 2 weeks later
>>
I have gotten over 30 pills on this run and not one of them has been positive.
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>>122451363
Maybe he should've slowed down and savored his 100+ hours of content
>>
>the keeper

more like the shitter, fuck you waiter this is not the steak i ordered
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>>122451456
I think I've gotten Tears Up exactly once while playing Afterbirth.
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>>122451612
Of course you didn't order it, it was bonus content after all.
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>>122451735
>i can shit on your dessert because its on the house
>>
>giant fucking monstro in tiny room
>literally too big to walk past without taking contact damage
thanks ed
>>
Sometime, I feel like Brimstone got removed from devil deals.
I have to play Azazel just to remind me of how it looks like.
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>all this soot
Hush has too much health.
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>>122451946
Good luck finding mega blast.
>>
>tfw you used a save file cause you're tired as shit of some of those bullshit 'chievs
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>>122425416
I play co-op with friends and gf
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>>122452489
Is it fun?
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>>122452570
With friends, yes
Gf is a shitter tho, might git gud some day
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>>122452595
nice
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>>122452595
That's awesome
If you made it, definitely keep it up with different transformations/items
A lot of potential for more awesome art
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>>122452814
>>122452968
nah just posting the amazing shit on the steam gallery from folks, a lot of different people start making these now lately
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>>122453064
Damn that's badass too
I gotta check that shit out
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>picked up Libra during SPEEED
>lowers your speed to normal levels
SOMEONE TELL THE CHEF MY STEAK IS COOKED TO PERFECTION
>>
i just had the most luckiest run with the keeper ever, THE STEAK IS WELL DONE
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fug i want them both
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The Keeper should start with head of the keeper after killing mega greed, its retarded that he doesnt
>>
>>122454012
Habit is infinitely better than Deep pockets
>>
>>122454104
It's retarded that you don't get item unlocks for Mega Satan and completing the post-its, too.
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>>122454152
But you do, you get mega satan head
>>
>>122454151
this
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>>122454178
>1 item for every character's post-its
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>>122454238
Enjoy your steak and dont complain ;)

you also get co-op babies! aint i so trollful
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>>122453429

YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
LIBRA IS KING
SPEED GOT FUCKED
>>
>Serpent's Kiss in first treasure room
>for Keeper
It's like Eggmund is taunting me.
>>
So uh, what the fuck is with that room with the spitting statues and walking hosts in flooded caverns?

The actual fuck is this shit?
>>
>>122454379
>Serpent's Kiss
at least it's still poison tears
>>
why the fuck would you want to unlock sticky nickels
>>
>>122454581
Literally the hardest room in the game if you don't have flying
Second hardest if you do

Hardest room in the game bar none is the one where it's just a walkway from one door to the next with 5 exploding flies floating around
Even with flying that room is fucking brutal
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>finally get round to unlocking The Lost after filling in every other post-it note

oh good god what the fuck is this
>>
>working on a shitty, bugged expansion
>only focusing on getting those presales, knowing that nobody will buy the bugged shitstain after it's released and the reviews are out
>steam announces 30 day return policy
>panic
>stroke of genius
>decide to start presales 31 days before the game is released so nobody can return it
>>
>>122454832
>mfw i refunded then pirated
>mfw i can still unlock achievemnts

thanks for the free steak eggmound
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>>122454832
but the reviews are fine because people are people
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>2 keys
are you shitting me
it's like the game knows when you have dosh and puts shit in the shop
but when you have 1 coin and golden key drops in caves 1 it's fucking stopwatch and black candle every fucking time
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>>122455090
Brother I was just going to post something like this like 10 minutes ago
I'm so fucking tired of seeing Mom's Purse and Converter, I'm going to lose my fucking mind
>>
>>122455064

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes

"But it sucks!"
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>>122454723
there was this room near release that I've never seen again that was the hardest fucking thing I've ever seen
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>>122455064
the shitty thing is that it's like every fucking Steam game where all the positive reviews are jokes "10/10 haven't left my room in 2 days" or just flat out sucking the developer's dick where all the negative reviews are like "well I'm sad that it turned out this way but I can't recommend the game"
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Oh, very clever Edmund, as you damage the boss he gets armour, so you have to wait for it to wear off.
The way to beat ultra greed is to enjoy your steak slowly.
WELL FUCK YOU, I CAN BEAT THIS FUCKER IN UNDER A MINUTE BY THROWING BOMBS AT IT!

Dr. Fetus, Fire Mind, Megaman Boms whatever it is, Triple shot, Mom's Eye, fuckload of damage ups, bob's rotten head and host's hat.

WELCOME TO HELL
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Why does How to Jump even exist?
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>>122455090
can you imagine if, instead of Greed Mode being a half-baked alternative mode, it was a special room type available any floor that has a shop (so up to the womb)?

Like Greed Mode, the "Greed Room" would keep summoning waves of enemies, you can either choose to fight maybe 5 waves of the generally more challenging enemies or push the spiked button as usual to turn it off.

The more you fight it, the harder the enemies it provides until eventually just being bosses that award nickels or dimes each wave, as opposed to the regular reward of 1-3 pennies per wave.

This way, you'd be able to really farm out the shops if you're a particularly skilled player (there'd have to be some cap on the greed rooms, though), but even less-skilled players would get at least an opportunity to get shit in your shops
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>>122455192
fixed your image bro
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>>122455651
Beautiful
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>>122455064
>reading the reviews
"Though a Big problem of the original hastn't been completely fixed: the character "The Lost". It's still borderline unplayable."

well he must be feeling pretty fucking dumb right about now.

Also the reviews aren't fine. Very Positive for any non-VN is basically damning for a game. Keep in mind that Rebirth is Overwhelmingly Positive.
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>>122455192
There should be a version of this with Greed sitting next to the Angel with a Stopwatch
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i'm having so much fun with my steak, just hiding behind shits
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>>122455456
They MASSIVELY nerfed his super armor, now if you're powerful enough you can destroy him.
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>>122455064
Steam reviews are horrible anyway, you barely ever see anything that isn't "Very Positive" because it's flooded with postiive reviews from people who haven't even played it

reminds me of this video
http://maximumwitchturtle.tumblr.com/post/132983109412/user-reviews-very-positive

I know >tumblr but it's exactly what's wrong with how Steam reviews work
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>>122455885
nigga his bullet hell isn't even hard when there's only one of them
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>>122455885
seriously who the fuck thought The Stain was a good idea

especially the two of them in The Shop
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>>122455937
>negative reviews are several sentences or paragraphs
>positive reviews are like six words
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>>122456006
like >>122455972 said, just one of them is fine, I think it's actually a decent boss, though its bullet-hell attack is often overused.

But yeah, 2 of them in The Shop is bullshit, a lot of the time that's simply undodgeable
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>Unlocked Keeper
>Greed Machine reset
>I cannot handle the donation machine or the greed machine not being at
>My autism mode kicks in
>Holding R until I can find a D20 or some shit to break the game

My intense autism is a curse.
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>>122456164
Not being at 999*
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>>122455937
It's a thing called the "vocal minority"
The people who dislike the game will make the negative review, but most of them don't. So those who don't make a review just say that the ones who did write a negative review was helpful.
However, EVERYONE who likes the game for some fucking reason needs to write something positive about it, and as such they NEVER reach the most helpful list because there's so fucking few of them, but they need to SUCK THE GAME'S COCK SO HARD that literally every single fucking person has to write a positive review about it JUST to prove the other side wrong.

Never base your purchases off of steam reviews. Either use reliable outlets, if they even fucking exist, or watch raw gameplay of it and see what you think.
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>Cambion Conception + Pyro + epic fetus + a fireplace
HAHAHAHAHA
YES
YES
YES
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>>122454720
I have a hard time believing this is anything more then a bug that showed up in a daily one day and them making it a "feature / unlock" cause they can't fix the bug.

Seriously, there is no positive. Unless it like, tripled your chance to get a nickle, it's generally not worth it. Even then bombs are worth a nickle, so unless your rolling in bombs, bombs tend to be more useful in main runs.
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>bombs no longer stop the Haunt
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>>122450542
No, you didn't.
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tfw
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>basement 1
should i?
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Blue Bomber wouldn't be NEARLY as fucking hard if it wasn't Kamikaze having a straight 1 second cooldown
Bosses like >>122457998
>>122457303
Mom, Mom's heart, and Polycepaldshf.lk are fucking BRUTAL
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>>122458021
>giving up the nickel
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>>122455289
at least they're not the brimstone eyes
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>>122456006
one by itself is fine, the pattern is pretty easy
2 of them at once is stupid hard
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>Unlocked Ipepac
>Hush was open
>Game crashed
>Restarted game starts me back in the beginning of Womb II with the amount of red hearts I had with 0 Special Hearts

EDMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUND
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>>122458069
i dun did it
seems pretty cool so far
wish me luck
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>>122458021
>giving up the nickle for what is essentially a handicapped reset
The answer to that question is the same as the answer for "as you retarded?"
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Which waifu is the most pure?
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>>122459818
Mama Gurdy
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for what purpose
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>>122458416
no u
i dun it without extra lives or savescumming
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>>122460247
You're talking about what the purpose of that shitty Cursed Eye is, right?
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>tfw really high and really drunk and was thinking of isaac before and now remembering experiences and feelings I had when I was 5 years old
My nose is really warm like orange sherbet with white in the middle
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Beside those visual fixes the Keeper can seriously use some fucking buff
or just give him a weaker version of tripple coin tears for christ sake its basicly a greed
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>>122460247
You're the Lost, so you don't have to worry about getting hit. It's the only character where Cursed Eye is actually helpful.
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>>122462938
Make him start with Money=Power or at least give him one more health so he can pick some goddamn Devil Deals properly.

Why does he get a penny for defeating Hush instead of something actually useful like +1 health?
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STOP MAKING ME FACE THE HAUNT ON FLOOR ONE YOU PIECE OF SHIT
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>>122463542
>he can't beat Haunt on floor one
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>>122463542
Fine, you get Rag Man Double Trouble instead.
Enjoy.
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>Get flanked by invisible enemies while playing as The Keeper in the Chest
>Little Horn coughs a bullet before I have the chance to react right in front of my face

And they say unavoidable damage is a meme
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>>122462984
i was actually talking about the 3 swallowed coins.
items that repeatedly appear in the game doesnt make any sense to me
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>>122463542
>get the hunt, rag man, or little devil cunt hole every single fucking time

end me
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>>122463727
>all ridiculously easy bosses
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Protip: don't pick up Bum Friend if you play as the Keeper
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anyone got a seed for floor 1-2 coin tears? I just wanna play greed as he was suposed to be lel
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GUYS QUICK does 20/20 work on brimstone/azazel
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>>122464273
no
triple shot does however
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>>122464273
>>122464305
well never mind they fixed that in afterbirth it seems
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>>122454012
Anybody noticed how similar Keeper is to those dead guys in the shop?
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:)
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>>122464502
Going too far imo.
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>>122464305
>>122464406
didnt matter hush has 4.2 billion health so i couldnt kill him anyway without completely breaking the game
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>>122463727
Little Horn? He's one of the easiest bosses. Also one of the cutest bosses.
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>>122464659
Out of my little wall of hornies, you made a huge wall of little hornies.
God bless you, anon.
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>doing Keeper run
>black coin drops
>cant pick it up it just flips over
wut
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>>122465001
Bomb it.
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>FUCKER GOES UNDERGROUND
>KEEP DISTANCE FOR 3 MINUTES STRAIGHT
>3 MINUTES
>SUDDENLY SHOOTS RIGHT UP MY ASSHOLE
>DIE

EEEEEEDMUUUUUUUUUUND
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>The Keeper now starts with the Coin Converter! Exchange 15 coins for a health upgrade.
Would that make The Keeper worth it?
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>>122465365
Hold still, he only pops up when he's near you.
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>There are people ITT who think No. 2 is a bad item
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>>122465768
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The Bloat is the worst fucking boss in the game
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>>122465838
nice meme anon, upvoted!
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>>122465847
>fagman
>the caunt
>brownigger
>the rage
Bloat is fucking annoying, but he's not the worst. If not the eyes, I would say he's one of the easier ones.
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how about fallout reference item?

power armor helmet:same as mod spier gives you info and +2 soul hearts

power armor torso:gives you +5 soul hearts

power armor legs:gives you +2 soul hearts and your now able to stomp rocks -1 movement
speed

power armor transformation:now bullets can't hurt you -1 movement speed

pip-boy figure:all stat up
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>>122465957
>bullets can't hurt you
anon, never try thinking again
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>>122465957
wow, what a faggot
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>>122465957
fuck off back to 9gag
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>>122465768
>pick up No. 2
>now every room ever has Poop-related enemies and every boss ever is some form of Dingle, Dangle, Brownie or Double Trouble and Damage Ups stop existing so I'm not allowed to kill them before the Butt Bombs heal them
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>>122465952
it's hard to pick the worst with so many contenders, but what is the best boss?

hardmode: no bosses past womb 2
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>>122466208
LITTLE HORNY
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>>122466282
pls sexualize
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>>122466169
Oooor you can just realize that if you keep continously shooting you only make 1 poop bomb per room
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>>122466282
>>122466305
he's too easy though
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>>122466305
Any time, little buddy.
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>>122466420
Why even bother picking it up then, if you're not using it's 'benefits'.
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>>122466648
You'd be stupid to use it against poop enemies

In all other situations, it's literally a better Pyro
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post playtime
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>>122467034
>>
reports of a patch and that greed doesn't respawn with hourglass can someone confirm
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Can I kill the lamb and mega stan in the same run?
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Should I?
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>>122467741
Anyone? I'm chillin in front of the lamb's door and don't want to waste this mega stan key.
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>>122467741
>>122468360
you can just don't touch the chest
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thanks
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>>122468360
>>122467741
yes, do the lamb first
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>You're having a mediocre greed mode run
>Go for a devil deal button
>It's double champion Bloat
>They both jump to the top of the room as soon as they spawn
>Eventually kill them, lose a fuckton of hp
>Get an angel room
>Two angel chests and two soul hearts behind blue fires
>You have no keys or bombs

Are angel and devil rooms extra shit in greed mode or something?
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Does Lump of Coal stack? (got one from Krampus, and there is one in the shop)
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>>122468595
Either way, you're only going to be able to put in a single penny in that Greed Machine.
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>There's a chance you dont get your Angel / Devil deal
>There's a chance you get nothing from your Angel / Devil deal
>There's a chance you get nothing from your shop
>There'a chance you cant access / pick up item from your item room
>There's a chance you get only active items from your item room
Somedays i fucking hate this game. 5th run in a row i loose because i get nothing but active items for 3 floors straight.
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is this still works?
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>>122468859
IIRC you need the car battery too for when you start grinding greed with the hourglass.
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>having a good greed run
>40 something coins
>beat greed with relative ease
>put in two coins
>jams
I am thankful for whoever came up with this E P I C idea xddd, exactly what I expected too
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>>122468859
Did it last night. Hourglass with two charges is bugged, so infinite charge. Just Chaos Card Ultra Greed, put four pennies in the machine, warp back, and repeat.
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>>122468859
hope you haven't updated
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>>122469217
>>122469426
Welp, never mind. Glad I did it last night then.
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>>122469426
>there are people who didn't just cheat engine to 999 coins
for what purpose
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>>122469426
Honestly, I still don't understand why the percentage is there if the RNG is so bad that it literally jams after one or two coins every single time without fail.
I mean, I know Cheat Engine is there, but it's still fucking retarded.
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>see the steps to infinite farm Greed
>pick Eve since I dont have her Greed unlock anyways
>First Shop has the D20 aww yiss
>2 hours later
>Everything in the Shop is just Milk, the blue hourglass never spawned.
>Welp time to dl cheatengine

Don't know what happened, since the ítem pool clearly wasn't empty since after buying like 6 or 7 milks a non milk ítem would pop out, my guess is that I picked up chaos at some point and that messed up everything. On the bright side ultra Greed died in like 2 seconds.

I'll have to do the same with the donation machine since the damn thing it's so rare that I have only seen it once since I started playing again... on Greed Mode and as you can guess it stuck after 2 coins.
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>>122469426
SLOW
DOWN
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>>122469426
order now and get this second steak absolutely free
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I JUST WANT MY 1001% ACHIEVEMENT AAAAAAAAAA FUCK OFF NICALIS
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>>122469426
>100+ hours of content :)
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>>122469828
That's not so bad for The Lost assuming you unlocked Mantle.
>get hit
>quit
>continue
>????
>PROFIT
Unless that doesn't work anymore, either.
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>>122469426
>killed ultra greed 700 times yesterday because I didn't want to have to play greed mode again.
Haha too late faggots the pain is over.
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>>122469426
>spent 4 hours yesterday trying to break the game desperately knowing they would patch the hourglass
>best I managed to get was 100 coins because LOL FUCK YOU 1 COIN PER RUN
>wake up today
>patch ruined the hourglass

Honestly i've never been this upset at a game before. The greed machine donation mechanics feels like a huge insult to the people who bought this game. A gigantic fuck you savor the steak from edmund.

How the fuck can he patch out the only thing that made it beatable and not do something to fix the ENDLESS complaints from the players about how broken and retarded the system is?

Does Cheat Engine ban your steam account? I've never cheated in a game like that before but fuck this donation bullshit it's the most time-walled player content for NO FUCKING REASON

I don't even care about the keeper I just want holy mantle for the lost.
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>>122470259
Nope,
>getting banned from a single player game

Cheat your heart away.
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>>122470259
You're allowed to mod, change, or cheat in the game however you want
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>>122470460
>>122470367
thank fuck. I really feel needing to resort to cheating, but holy fuck edmund just make it so the machine doesn't jam after 2 coins. Make it so it has a 50 coin minimum or some shit I don't even give a fuck. make it so every characters % drops to 0 when playing another character. There are so many better ways of handling this I am 10/10 upset right now at how much time I wasted this weekend on the fucking greed machine to only be at 450 coins.
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>>122470595
Like I said earlier, you might as well not even have a percentage given how little it fucking matters.
As a toasterfag, I'm really going to hate this once Afterbirth hits consoles since I wont have any exploits or Cheat Engine to save me from the autism.
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>>122466707
>you'd be stupid to use it against poop enemies
>When you fire a tear you have a chance to randomly drop a poop bomb

So is the strategy here to not shoot any tears?
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Lets say i "Find" an older version of isaac in internet.
Can i put my savefile in there , complete the 999 greed machine and then put it back in my game?
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>>122471036
just cheat engine man.
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>>122463813
it's more than they just take 8 fucking years to kill
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>>122471246
never used cheat engine in my life so i'm shit with it
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>>122463843
well no shit
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>>122457723
you are right edmund, that would be fun, we dont want that
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>>122471407
Well, you know anon.
You can't 2-shot mega satan, since he has damage-gates.
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>>122469426
lol is this genuinely a fucking joke?

Ed and Nicalis are total fucking hacks. Never buying anything of theirs again.
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>>122471574
i one shoted every form then
>>
So I beat the Lamb and Mega Satan with Lilith today, but it didn't unlock the Succubus or whatever you get from beating the Lamb. Is this a bug?
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>>122470995
>When you fire a tear you have a chance to randomly drop a poop bomb

Where the fuck did you even read that?

>" Continuously firing or charging tears for 3 seconds causes Isaac to drop a Butt Bomb. Only 1 Butt Bomb can be dropped per charge, so you'll need to stop firing then start again to drop another one."
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>>122471681
no, it's a feature
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You deserve this Ed
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>>122469426
IT'S STILL NOT PATCHED OUT


DO IT WHILE YOU STILL HAVE THE TIME
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>>122471780
>next patch makes the D20 no longer appear in Greed Mode
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>>122471303
Dude it's easy.

Download cheatengine, run cheatengine, play boi until you get to the Greed machine. Load boi in cheatengine (press the pc icon and look for boi process). Type the Greed machine coin amount in value and hit first scan, donate a coin write the New value and hit next scan proceed until only one value is shown right click on that then change the value to 999.
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>>122471845
eh fuck it i'm just going to use Cheat Engine. honestly why even waste my time "breaking" the game only to get fucked by the not-actually-random percent chance for the fucking machine to jam. Still takes hours to do it the "legitimate" breaking way when CE makes it almost instant. If Edmund wasn't such a fucking faggot about the whole thing and added a quick fix to make it not a monstrous grind I might actually consider doing it legitimately.
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>>122471634
>fix a bug
>WHAT DA FUK R U DOIN!?
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>>122471892
thanks i guess ill try again
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>>122471892
Is cheat engine pretty easy to uninstall? Once I cheese the 999 donation coins I want it off my machine so i don't vac ban myself on accident.
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>>122471951
Yeah something like :Greed Box wont Jam on the first 10 coins.

I mean its still a Long grind but at least its way more progress than beating Greed and get stuck at 2 coins
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>>122471989
HOPE YOU ENJOY PLAYING LITERALLY 400 FUCKING HOURS OF PUTTING ONE PENNY IN EVERY TIME
>>
aren't coop babies useless for majority of the userbase

or did they finally expand from local only
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>>122472172
>>122471951
all he has to do is make the Greed box not jam

that's fucking it, that's all he has to do

there is literally no fucking reason for it

the core thing of Greed mode is "manage your money to keep as much as possible to donate" BUT THAT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER IF YOU CAN ONLY DONATE 4 PENNIES
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>>122472197
Already finished the hourglass trick bud.
Hope you enjoy actually playing the game.
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>>122472250
Nope, they're still a novelty that only Edmund and his Wife care about.
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>>122472172
IMO it shouldn't jam at all.
You GOT there with all those coins, you ACHIEVED victory with all those coins, why the fuck wouldn't they let you donate all of them?
>>
>trying to beat megasatan with maggy
>have 20/20 and quad shot
>6 tears but terrible fire rate and almost no other damage ups
>get to the chest
>grab soy milk thinking it would help
>literally no damage (what was I thinking)
>open another chest
>epic fetus
>had butt bombs
>every shot is 6 butt bombs
>become death incarnate

really lucked out on that one. rate and subscribe
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>>122472291
I did the hourglass thing already too but it's still fucking retarded that they patched it. Nobody, fucking nobody will grind the Greed Machine legitimately. Nobody.
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>>122472101
Its easy to uninstall and you cant be vac banned by using it in single player games nor by having it in your pc, valve doesn't scan your pc for installed software. The only way I could see you get banned would be if you are playing a multiplayer and running cheatengine trying to change values on that game.

On a side note I had to use cheatengine to play saintsrow 2 due the speed bug so it has its uses
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>>122472286
>>122472325
agreed. there's really no reason for it to jam. If I hoard 99 pennies and not get hit at greed I should be allowed to dump them all.

I know the donation box was also a grind but you could do it at any floor in any game with the same percent chance no matter what so grinding floor 1 for coins was a lot easier than grinding the entirety of fucking greed mode. Plus the donation machine didn't block out an entire character (two if you count the holy mantle on the lost as making the character actually viable)
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>>122472426
Reddit will.
And while they're grinding, they'll be servicing Edmund's Cock the entire time.
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>>122472468
You'd be surprised. Almost every thread that mentions the greed machine is bitching about the jam percentage or telling people how to cheese it with the hourglass or linking to the mod that spawns a dollar and the donation box in the cellar.

Even reddit wants nothing to do with grinding that shitbox.
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>>122472465
and also it was in the main game, not the fucking shitty boring Greed Mode
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>>122472465
and the regular donation machine has a fucking use, since you can bomb it to get shop items if you're low on cash but high on bombs

>>122472468
they're actually pissed over there, not quite as much but they 90% of them agree this is fucking stupid
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>>122472468
Why does everyone blame reddit for everything? I know its not a great website, but still.
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>>122472461
Fuck saintsrow. 4 was optimized like shit so i had to cheat the game in 2 parts that were imposible to do.
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>>122472286
>>122472325
>the core thing of Greed mode is "manage your money to keep as much as possible to donate"

Unfortunaly we know that this isn't the case, Greed Mode is easily broken and it's not too hard to end like a rich god of destruction in that Mode. But thats Edmund and Nicalis for not testing shit.
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>>122472779
to be fair to that guy, they were really polished Edmund's and Tyrone's knobs this week, pretending that the Keeper unlocks weren't already in the game
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>>122472798
I couldn't finishing 4 since my vidya card borked and im with a shitty one due being poor at the moment but I dont remember having any issues with the game. 2 was unplayable due the speed bug and I don't know if they parched that out
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>>122472808
you know, I understood when something went wrong in Isaac, because it was just 2 guys. there's no way they could have caught even half of everything, especially working in Flash

REBIRTH IS A FUCKING TEAM OF PEOPLE, FUCKING FIGURE SHIT OUT.
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>>122472808
Still, that's ten perfect runs to unlock everything.

>>122472872
Yeah, but the go to response for "something has gone wrong" is to put reddit at fault somehow. Like, in any given situation at any place on 4chan. Its either Reddit or Tumblr.
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>today's daily
>Dr. Fetus

>curse of the blind

>Loki's Horns

No. It's not fair. IT'S NOT FAIR.
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Did they nerf ultra greed?
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>break ultra greed
>tears so crazy I can't see the screen for several seconds after firing once
>greed dies on top of me and I click the box before I can even see it

almost put my fist through my monitor
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>>122473037
Sounds like a fun time.
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>>122472972
Atleast for 2 months after the game came out there was this bug. there was a part at the begining when you had to escape in a ship , the segment ended with you squezing between two doors. If your fps was bad you were unable to do it because the doors didnt actually lost speed on their end but your ship does , doesnt matter how well you did the first part.
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>>122473205
you would have only donated 1 penny anyway
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>>122473345
you're right, that was my next attempt to break the game. Could kill U.Greed with 2 bombs, but could only donate 1 penny at a time. Wasn't worth it.
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20380831/GreedMode.html

>average amount of runs is 90
>fucking 90 to unlock a character that isn't even fun
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>Alt-F4 in since game's release
>2 years later decide it's time to fix it

for
what
fucking
purpose
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>>122473624
>that isn't even fun
Dont choke on the steak mate
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>>122473806
because fuck you :^)

I hate how they don't realize people "abuse" these tactics because the core mechanics are fundamentally broken. Instead of fixing the actual problem they remove the bandaid and fuck everyone over.

Adding holy mantle to the lost was honestly the first majorly good chance they did to fix one of these broken issues, and then they created a whole new issue with the greed machine bullshit and the keeper.
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>restock
>chaos
>steam sale
>humble bundle

and then

>greed!
>super greed!

I swear this game goes out of its way to fuck you over
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>>122472779
it's used as the official Isaac forums, they're all cocksucking retards, and cocksucking is encouraged thanks to le upboats
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>>122474254
really tells you something then when they designated cock-sucking team start calling edmund out on his bullshit.
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>>122457303
moar plz
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>>122468859
>try to do this

>get D20

>no batteries in shops for the rest of the run

what the fuck?
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>>122474370
yeah but they're not going to do anything about it

Edmund's going to say "sorry greed machine thing was a bug" and they'll be right back to sucking his dick
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>>122457086
good album
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so can anyone confirm if 1001% is still broken or if the update fixed that

or were they too busy trying to keep you from playing the content for as long as possible, again
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>>122472872
>pretending that the Keeper unlocks weren't already in the game
But people do that here too.
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>7 hearts + guppy's paw for that easy hush mark
>devil deal
>that question mark curse
>sure, every 2 heart item is prob worth it
>it's abaddon
>mfw
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>>122475158
not as much
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>>122475210
it happens to the best of us.
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>>122475210
my condolences
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>>122475210
>get curse of the blind in the chest
>end up picking up soy milk
Fuck that curse so much
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>>122475210
>get to Blue Womb with a relatively decent Lost build, Pre-Mantle
>3 Orbitals, Trinity Shield, Host Hat and strong tears with decent rate of fire, sadly wasn't lucky enough to get Mantle on top of it
>Curse of the Blind
>decide to pick up an item hoping it'll help
>mfw Soy Milk
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>>122469426
>mfw I enjoy my steak
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>>122475158
>it was in the game so that must mean it will be included.
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>>122475584
>>122475564
>there are people who don't save before picking up every Curse of the Blind item and reload if it's shit
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>>122475686
Can you still do that now that they fixed Alt+F4?
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Rib of greed one of the best things about afterbirth desu
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>>122475584
What the fuck is wrong with that cow?
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>>122475725
Did they actually fix Alt+F4?
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>>122475841
it's missing a face
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>>122475841
A train ripped most of its head off, but parts of the brain were still there.
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>>122475883
I see that. Any idea where it went?
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>>122475210
but abadon is great and 6 black hearts is more than enough for hush. Hush really isn't that hard. He's a cunt with the lost but any character who can take a few hits shouldn't have a hard time with hush.
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>>122475725
>having auto-updates on

I'm not sure, but I would assume
>>
So considering how much majority of the bonus content of this game fucking sucks, I'm never doing the Boss Rush, Hush, Mega Satan or Greed Mode again once I'm done getting the unlocks

The best the game has been has always been up to ??? or Lamb
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>>122476021
Hell, Lamb isn't even worth going to ever unless you already have a strong enough build to carry you through Sheol and Dark Room.
The Chest is always fun because it guarantees a shit load of items that may or may not let you stomp ??? after struggling with Isaac, but Dark Room just has Red Chests that may or may not give you an item that's not quite as good and from a smaller pool, unless you have Guppy's Tail and a ton of Luck Ups to make Gold Chests appear more often.
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>>122476006
Thanks. Poor cow.
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>>122476168
I'll be honest, I prefer The Lamb to ???

Because due to pathetic balancing, Isaac is more difficult than ???. Satan is pretty annoying, but The Lamb probably has one of the most interesting attacks of the Rebirth bosses. Better than Mega Satan who just spawns other bosses in attempt to be hard

All of the 'final bosses' from Rebirth onward fucking suck
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>>122476175
>that file name
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I only count 96 or 97 new items, is this seriously it?
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>>122476168
Dark Room + Lamb is more fun because it's at least slightly more challenging than the alternative, and the chest looks ugly.
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>>122476335
I've always found The Lamb to be one of the easier end game bosses. I dont think Ive ever died to it.
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>>122476525
Trinkets, friend.
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>>122476018
Only killed hush twice before, I almost made it

but yeah not the greatest player here I'll admit
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>>122476513
Trinkets dummy.
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>>122427448
>no smb super fan
>>
Hi /boig/, I'm from /rlg/.

Basically, our general occasionally receives a stream of new posters seeking a place to discuss what we at /rlg/ call roguelike-likes, roguelites, or alternatively "NOT A FUCKING ROGUELIKE" since our userbase largely only plays hard manly man roguelikes with eyeburning ASCII graphics and text-based interfaces forked from games from the 80s.

We'd be interested in knowing how many of you would be interested in making a general for games like Crypt of the NecroDancer, Spelunky, Don't Starve and such so we have somewhere to redirect roguelite people in addition to this general.

/indie/ will also be asked.

http://strawpoll.me/6022038
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>>122476674
love this meme
thanks edmund
wotl was 100 times better than this hot garbage
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>>122476575
>Trinkets
Are you saying that because of red chests? Why?
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>>122476836
>meme
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>>122476892
trinkets are a meme
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tfw you forget to drop the left hand before going to the chest
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>>122477043
hey northernlion, didn't know you visited 4chan

seriously though there's not a worse feeling
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>>122476863
Quoting Eggmund McMuffin himself. Trinkets are included in the tally.
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>>122477540
Then you replied to the wrong person, bruv.
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>>122472872
I really don't understand this.

After the whole ARG thing (I'm sick of reading that fucking term, something about the whole concept just makes me angry), Reddit was convinced that Keeper and associated unlocks were 'extra content' that weren't promised and therefore bonus on top of what we received in Afterbirth.

But that makes no fucking sense as I assume that Keeper and his unlocks contribute the the new Platinum God / 1001% or whatever Eggmund is calling it this time, and thus can not be bonus content because it's required to 100% the game.

It annoys me how quickly Reddit got back on Ed and his teams dick, and it's pretty clear at least Ed and Tyrone love it in their echo chamber of optimism and love because they shoot down and criticism with childish insults.

I've put in over 600 hours between original Isaac and Rebirth, but between the smug attitude of the devs and their determination to nerf everything that was fun about the game for some kind of deluded idea of balance, in a game that was never about having balance, I won't be giving them any more money.

Fuck me this year has been a disappointing year for gaming.
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>>122477540
then I'm never buying anything of his again
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>>122477712
stop being a butt tard tinfoil hatter and just eat your steak
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>>122465763

Flat out bullshit. I've gotten hit by his popup while standing still. I've gotten hit by it while moving up and down, side to side, in circles, Stain is a faggot and peekaboo enemies are the worst in the game.
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The percentage is meaningless, jamming rate is seeded, it only works when you have 0% then it jams on seed, 5% is the same as 20%.
Found it out when my hourglass cheese always jammed at 15 coins, regardless if it had 2% or full 20%.
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any tips on making good pace for hush? I play BOI very slowly and usually full clear floors so it's difficult for me to know when i'm at good pace when I don't do that and play a different playstyle. strangely enough I never really see posts about the time limit for hush when I used to see them all the time for boss rush.
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>>122471780
senpai
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>>122477712
>thought I could find solace in Afterbirth after the MGSV fiasco
>it's just as tedious and unfinished
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>>122473806
How did they fix it? Pls respond.
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Umm, I killed Conquest and the boss battle theme is still playing.
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>>122477712
>mfw people insist on jamming their steak down their throat as quickly as possible
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>>122477712
Just wait for Xenoblade senpai.
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>started a new file for afterbirth
>had RPG before and raced a lot so burnt out
>have hardly bothered with the new content just gone through the unlocks to mega satan/lamb/bb/hush with the original cast
>done the original challenges but they're so aggresively unfun (Cursed, Cat got your Tongue, Family Man) that i dont' want to do the new ones

I haven't even tried greed mode yet and i'm so burnt out. Perhaps i shouldn't have put 3k hours into the originals but i don't really feel like any of the afterbirth content is that good

Lilith was fun but nerfed. A lot of the crazy powerful combos were nerfed. Azazel is fucking dead. Cain and Maggie were left as fucking gutter characters.
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>>122478560
Azazel has been revived mate.
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>>122478560
At least you can unlock Paper Clip as a starting item for Cain.
Meanwhile, Maggy is still "Slower Isaac with 4 Hearts and the Yum Heart" just like she's been since her introduction four years ago.
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>>122478560

I'm glad I didn't start a new file. The DLC is disappointing.
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>>122477712
If it makes you feel better, there is still a lot of salt on the subreddit community over there. The damage has been done - sure, people are happier but not satisfied.

>>122473806
Alt-F4 is working my end, and no patches are scheduled according to Steam. I'm using the Alt-F4 when I die.
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Hahaha its over. I'm never touching this character again.
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>>122478560
>done the original challenges but they're so aggresively unfun (Cursed, Cat got your Tongue, Family Man)

Why aren't there more challenges like the one where you have technology 1/2 and mindbender? You know, actual fun setups rather than rng grindfests where the bosses/rooms you get factor into your success more than your skill.
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>>122478884
so how'd you make it to boss rush/hush? The early game is so hard as Keeper
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>>122478884
I'm still amazed that they managed to make a character worse than The Lost.
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>>122478978
Godhead via chaos.

>>122479003
I bet the old man is even worse. Edmund gets some sick enjoyment out of other people suffer.
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>>122469657
do you get all achievements and unlocks by doing this?
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>>122477906
>boss rush
>20 minutes for 6 floors
>hush
>30 minutes for 8 floors
Hush is pretty easy to get to.
Boss rush is much harder than before now with even less rewards and hush takes about 14 years to kill so unless you are going for unlocks there is no reason to desire either.
>>
So im using Missing hud but i still can't get the items to show on the right side of my screen, how can i do that?
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I really hate Hush's scaling damage shit, because it fucks you over if you have high damage and if you don't then it doesn't do shit to scale towards your damage. I just spent ten minutes with next to no damage and still lost.
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>tammy's head doesn't fire 10 missiles around you when you got epic fetus
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Fucking ragman on level 1, goddamn piece of shit I hate you so fucking much you tedious thundercunt.
>>
>tfw old man will never be playable
>tfw your friends that play isaac are okay with edmund and nicalis fucking over the playerbase at every opportunity
>tfw you spent money on afterbirth
>tfw they make a character worse than The Lost.
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>>122479482
options
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I really thought community items were gonna save Afterbirth

What's amazing is that Florian managed to make a better isaac expansion all by himself in flash
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will dying with azazel by a random monster ruin unlocking the lost?
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>>122480885
a bunch of people are going to laugh at you, but it's true

well, Eternal's more "fun" at least
>>
I'm pretty sure that the game now takes note that you are using Glowing Hourglass and sets the machine to jam at 1 coin each after a couple loops.

That's an enormous fuck you to the players. It's like Edmund and Tyrone are trying extra hard to make the entirety of Greed Mode awful.
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>>122481034
Of course?
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>>122480885
>What's amazing is that Florian managed to make a better isaac expansion all by himself in flash
This is like saying a piece of dog shit smells better than the inside of the sewers.
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>>122481208
any death will ruin the run?
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>>122478978
I got to them by finding Ipecac in the first treasure room. Cleared Hush in like 21 minutes.
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>>122464414
WOAH DUDE
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>>122478936
exactly
Family Man is a perfect example of this

Literally not one person is going to go all the way to Isaac with 3 Babies + Boss items. You basically just have to reset endlessly for a Lil Brim or luck into an OP combo like Brim from a devil deal and a tammies head, which is crazy unlikely. It's not fun or challenging it's just luck.

>>122478673
True , but paper clip is no trade off for less hp, range. He needs good pills back on the lucky foot.

>>122478650
i didn't know. Good.
>>
everyone keeps saying there was an update that "fixed" Glowing Hourglass but I don't have one????
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EDMUUUUND
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>>122481636
When they say "fixed", they mean you can't use it to Unjam the Greed Machine to put more coins into it anymore.
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>>122481706
I understand that you dingus that's why it's in quotes

I'm saying I don't see an update
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>>122481501
>Literally noone
speak for yourself, orbitals were fantastic.
>>
>Seraphim baby
Is there anything special about it?
It seems like a really boring piece of shit.
>>
>>122482470
Its tears have the effect of sacred heart, which makes them fairly damaging and give them homing
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>>122482470
It's basically Little Steven:Angel Edition.
>Select all images with Steak.
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>>122482470
Its shots have homing and deal 10 damage per shot which is really high for a familiar.
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>>122482470
It's a better Little Steven.
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>>122482647
>>122482701
>>122482768
>>122482638
Hm, thanks.
It sounded worse on paper.
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Does this game have issues registering inputs sometimes?

Sometimes I go to move and nothing happens. It's rare as fuck though.
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>>122483001
Sometimes it stalls up and then Isaac does a little jig to catch up with the inputs. I just assumed it was my computer.
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???
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>>122483472
Both
Don't be a pussy
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>>122483719
Dark Bum and Missing Page 2
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Why does the game have pixel art graphics? I remember it looking similar to super meat boy last time I played, though I have to say it does fit the tone better and makes it look less vulgar.
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>>122483893
Edmund thought the graphics of flash isaac were shit.
Changed it in the remake.
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>>122483893
The vanilla game had flash game graphics like that
Rebirth has a filter to make it sort of look like the old art, but it still looks really jaggedy
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>>122483893
I'm not some ebin retro gaymur but I prefer the pixel graphics tbqh
>>
>I'm never playing (insert character name here) again!

>New Update/DLC forces you to play that character again.

EEEEDDDDMMMMMMUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNDDDDDD

>>122478884
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>>122478978
Start run, bomb the first pot you can find, reset
Repeat until swallowed penny drops
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>>122481501
>not getting carried by based Rotten Babby
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>>122484223
>new update comes out
>resets everyone's progress and savefiles
>everyone has to do everything again
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why does greed have a noose around his neck?
does it symbolise depts that couldnt be paid so he necked himself or something?
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>Wafer in first treasure room
>playing as Keeper
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>>122484635
He hung himself.
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>>122484393
Import the save file you dipshit.
>>
Is the Keeper at least okay if you find tongue and goat head?
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>>122484762
The new patch that breaks everyone's files and no way to import. I'm not playing the game for first day.
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>>122484803
>Taking deals at all as Keeper.
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>>122484393
>use to cheat engine to give everyone infinite resources and health
>finish everything in a day

>>122484803
>taking Devil Deals as Keeper
Put your faith in the light.
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>>122484852
well I mean if you have multiple health ups on the floor you could get something good and stay at full
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>>122475679
if it wasn't supposed to be in the game then what content did we even pay for
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>>122485051
co-op babies and over 100 hours of greed machine grinding.
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>>122485051
Trinkets and babies.
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>>122485051
Lilith and 95 items
along with 200+ new co-op babies and a few trinkets that add to the item count.
>>
>still don't know what golden horse shoe does
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>>122485281
Removes falling damage.
wait a minute...
>>
EDDMUND FUCKING BUFF KEEPER HOLY SHIT
HOW CAN YOU MAKE A LESS ENJOYABLE CHARACTER THAN THE LOST (pre-mantle)
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>>122476825
Don't forget Dungeons of Dredmor.
>>
does 1001% finally fucking work now?
Hear there is a new patch.
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>>122484223
>never playing the lost again
>patch actually makes him viable (holy mantle)
>locked behind one of the most frustrating RNG grinds in gaming history

truly ebin
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>>122485281
I hear it makes the dollar appear from slot machines more often.
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>>122485592
>Keeper no longer has two giant coins for health, but instead uses his actual money
>he starts with 5 Coins
>he also loses the Wooden Nickel and gets a new activated item, Life of Greed or something along those lines that can convert all Hearts in a room into Coins, each type of heart being more valuable (1+1 Free obviously giving an equivalent, Eternal Hearts giving Dimes, etc) and has a 6-room charge, can be unlocked for other characters by beating Hush, effectively replacing the "Keeper now holds a penny!" Unlock
>Devil Deals are reworked to cost coins, with the costs varying based on how much you currently have
>>
Whats so bad about the keeper? Seems like with wooden nickle you can take one or two hits per room. Is it because devil deals fuck him in the butt?
>>
Wait, who is this Keeper and how is he worse than the Lost
>>
What if the Keeper just... for every 99 coins you get a new "heart"

Perhaps the quarter and dollar are more common. Or his luck with the slot machine is extremely high
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>>122486686
>can only take 2 hits max (3 with Mantle), 1 hit minimum because he caps at 2 Life Coins, which translates into 2 hits
>can very easily lose his second Life Coin via Health Down Pills/Items or Devil Deals until you get an HP Up
>Triple Shot gimps his firerate considerably and his damage doesn't compensate for this
>95% of Devil Deals kill him unless he has an extra life
>can't take advantage of some items like Whore of Babylon or Polaroid since he can't have Half Coins
>all of his unlocks save for Deep Pockets are completely fucking useless (Trinkets, Co-Op Babies) or even unhelpful (Sticky Nickels if you haven't already been running into them)
The only "pro" is that he's harder to die with if you get Swallowed Penny or Piggy Bank.
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>>122486686
Because he really is just a worse Lost.
>Triple Shot but shit-ass fire rate so even if you land every shot you're only doing equal damage.
>No flying
>No spectral tears
>Holy Mantle kind of but you need money lying around to refresh it
>can't go in curse rooms
>can't take Devil Deals
>can't even safely take unknown pills because lol health down
You can sort of mitigate the health problem once per room but you have to give up your active slot for it. As it stands you need to R for Swallowed Penny for him to be okay.
>>
>>122487229
or he gets shop items for free
treasure rooms are now shops
no restock
>>
>>122487232
>>122487304
maybe it's just because my butthole was blistered by the lost pre-afterbirth but he still sounds better than the lost was back then except no flying.

Granted the lost now is an actually viable character with spectral tears and holy mantle.
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>>122487686
He's better than the "don't make a mistake. ever" character but he's still the worst of all the characters right now. Congratulations to Lazarus.
>>
>new character: The Found
>no flight
>no hearts
>no speed
>1 tear fired every hour
>if a devil room so much as spawns, your run ends
>if you die, rebirth permanently uninstalls itself from your computer
>is actually a cropped picture of eggmund eating a steak
>start with 100 copies of the dollar
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>>122489065
Sort of a lame character.
>>
Glowing Hourglass still works for Greed donations. Do it while you can.
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>>122489265
Just gonna cheat-engine that shit. Fuck Edmund
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>>122489065
>if a devil room so much as spawns, your run ends
>one of his unlockables somehow still need to defeat Satan
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>>122489345
If breaking the game is eating the steak too fast, then using cheat-engine is like shitting on the steak.

DO IT
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>>122489535
I feel like at this point the greed machine is like waiting for a table at a restaurant to eat the steak and they keep taking walk-ins before your reservation and despite what you order you probably won't even get the steak to eat.

And when you finally get on it you choke on the first bite.
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Is this supposed to happen? He appears and plays normally when I go in-game, but he's got nothing on the character select screen.
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>>122490163
It's the fucking mod you dingus.
It isn't updated.
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>>122490163
There's an issue with him appearing on the character screen for pirated and modded versions of the game. Edmund said something about it on twitter the other day.
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Is there a tutorial for the cheat engine greed machine thingy.

I am an 90 year old man and don't internet quite well.
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>>122445645
>lump of coal
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>>122490365
Read the OP you fucking dingus.
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Done with this shit mode.
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>>122490665

YOU'RE CHEWING TOO FAAAAAAAAAST
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>>122490779
I'm going to chew through Keeper shit now.
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>>122490882
I want to chew ultra greed's ass
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turns out Keeper's Head is pretty nice to have for the Hush fight
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What exactly is the keeper's deal?
I want to know if it worth unlocking.
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>>122491239

He's absolute shit. Is his shittiness intentional? Maybe, maybe not. Right now, he's not worth unlocking unless you just want to unlock everything.
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>>122491239
unless you're a completionist, it's not
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>>122491239
see >>122487232
>>122487524
>>
>100 coins in Greed

Ok so what's the easiest chararacter to break Greed Mode? used to be Lilith until they nerfed her
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>>122491542
Literally any character +blank card +2 of diamonds
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welp I was carrying the store key early on my Lamb Keeper run so I guess that's bugged too because I just unlocked it after Satan

good game
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>>122491542
use the mod that spawns the greed machine and the dollar on the first floor
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>first item as blue baby is serpents kiss

just give me the win
>>
How many breakfast do i have to eat until i find the god damn hourglass?
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>>122491813
only one

but eat it slowly
>>
Are status effects still broken? I've heard some people talk about just skipping poison and charm items because they clip/overwrite "useful" status like petrify.
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>>122491813
Slow down with the chewing kid
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>>122491542
just cheat engine or install the mod. it's not worth doing it legitimately.
>>
Is Continuum still broken with Tech X


The lasers do no damage when they come back through the wall
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>>122491813
don't pick up chaos. If you grabbed chaos you're fucked.

If you're seeing breakfasts before the hourglass you're already fucked. Just restart.
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>>122489373
>satan unlock: Mean Baby
>it's a baby painted black, with words written in blood on it
>it says "CHEW SLOWER"
>>
>>122491973
>>122491697
What's the name of the mod?
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>>122491813
>picking up chaos on a D20/IV bag breaking run
it's your fault anon.
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>>122492263
https://www.reddit.com/r/themoddingofisaac/comments/3swch6/greed_mode_donation_farming_mod/
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How did this happen? I don't have Chaos, and I thought Godhead was only part of the Angel Room pool.
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>>122492553
this is normal, godhead ia also in the item room pool and has been since rebirth
>>
>Judas
>one heart
>Ipecac, Cricket's Body

living on the edge
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>>122492553
same
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I tried to eat my steak too fast.
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>>122492365
Thanks family
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>>122492787
>>122492553
it's in the greed mode item room pool, not sure about the main game.
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>>122492829
anon stop

you're becoming too powerful
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>>122491542
Same for all characters.

The moment you get D20, it's pretty much over due to all the pennies to roll and the restocking batteries in the shops. That can further branch into Blank Card or Glowing Hourglass stuff.
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>>122492829
perthro doesn't do anythign?
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So I've been trying to grind out the Hourglass+Chaos card for Greed farming.

I've got both, but I've using the D100 so many times that my items have dissapeared, and now I only have a weak tri-shot.

What do? I've read that closing the game from task manager solves this, but I don't want to risk losing my items
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>>122493256
if you have both why do you care about your other items? Just get to U.Greed and kill him with the chaos card.
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>>122493161
Just more breakfast.
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Thanks Obama.
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>>122493693
pretty sure you can shoot between the diagonal of the rocks.
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too bad I'm not in greed mode, eh
>>
everyone upset about the grind but what you should be upset about is how little content there is
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HEALTH UP PLS TREATMENT
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>>122494304
but 120+ co-op babies!
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>>122494326
Praise Ed
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>>122493256
why bother just use cheat engine grats you now have a terrible character
>>
>>122494304
I'm only upset about the content because I used CE on the greed machine like anyone not autistic
This DLC barely qualifies as early access
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>>122494304
honestly i'm fine with the amount of content. Two new bosses, two characters, 90ish items and a new game mode is easily worth 7 dollars to me.

The grind is bullshit because it gates me from enjoying the content I paid for for a completely arbitrary reason and comes off like a big FUCK YOU from edmund.
>>
Just unlocked 999 coins with the cheat engine.

Over 400 hours of WotL and Rebirth/Afterbirth and I would do it again.

Grinding this long with the machine jamming is just bad game design.
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>>122494648
Gonna do that shit when I get home tonight. 180 hours in rebirth, got RPG, never cheated in a game before, but holy fuck this greed machine debacle makes me want to never play isaac again.
>>
>120 news items!
>a major chunk are just trinkets, and most items are just reskins of existing item effects
Fuck edmund
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>health scaling

GET FUCKED
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>>122494845
dude 100+ hours of gameplay one for each new coop baby
>>
>12.22 dmg after first floor
I think this is a record for me with Cain.
>>
>>122495137
How to zoom out like that?
>>
>>122493256
>using D100 for greed mode farming
filterfags like you deserve to fail
>>
>>122495269
C:\Users\<user>\Documents\My Games\Binding of Isaac Afterbirth
options.ini

Change MaxScale
Lowest number can be 1
I use 2 >>122495137
>>
>tfw i managed to accidentally create a new isaac meme
it's a complicated feel
>>
>>122495326
except it speeds up the grinding by giving you more options to get the hourglass from, dumb fuck
>>
>>122495462
nice meme dude nice meme
>>
>>122495609
what the fuck
by doing D20 grinding you can get perthro runes, and if you have the D6 by starting with Isaac WHICH YOU SHOULD ALREADY BE DOING, you have guaranteed rerolls
the D100 just puts you into breakfast because you're too fucking stupid to understand how the game mechanics work
>>
>>122495779
D20 grinding is shit, just start with a blank card and get a 2 of diamonds and start breaking the game. D20 is way slower and less reliable.
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I really wish I got some of these stupid combinations online earlier.
>>
>>122495779
actually scratch that
you're fucking retarded either way
all it does is save you ~5 seconds every once in a while when doing item rerolls
so amazing
>>
>>122495890
Split shot+cricket's body+magnetic tears?
>>
IS THERE ANY FUCKING WAY AT ALL TO INCREASE YOUR HEALTH AS THE KEEPER?

MY GOD THIS CHARACTER IS WORSE THAN THE LOST
>>
>>122496103
no. Health ups can increase you back to 2 though.
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>>122496103
Just reset and bomb pots until you get a swallowed penny
>>
>>122496061
Pretty much, but no Cricket's Body.
I wish I had, it would have been pretty silly.
>>
Come on, /boig/, don't die AGAIN.
>>
>>122497248
Keeper is too boring and everyone is tired of the game already.
>>
>>122497248
What do you want to talk about anon? I've already thoroughly vented my rage at the greed machine bullshit.
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>>122497248
Show's over, senpaitachi
>>
Does Edmund expect people to continue to play Greed mode?
All the fun is gone out of the game now. I have no reason to keep playing for the completion of a character I need to grind to improve and another character that I have to grind to just unlock.
>>
>>122497542
I wish there was more uses for suicide king. The liklihood that you'll get it and have multiple lives AND no hearts is pretty fucking slim.
>>
>>122497810
I enjoyed greed mode until this weekend when I spent almost 7+ hours grinding/breaking it and still only have 450 coins in the box. I'm pretty sure I wont touch the mode for a long time after I CE my way to 999 which is a shame because I do actually enjoy it.
>>
>>122497248
Isaac is kill
RIP in piece
I am still salty about the old man.

It'll revive when edmund makes another mistake.
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>>122497810
I was genuinely excited to play the new gamemode that would change the way you played issac, but it just turned into a pile of trash with a donation machine that not only jams, but you never get to with more than 10 cents per run.
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>>122497441
We can talk about how well sexualized little horny can be.
>>
>>122498450
please don't fuck the demons.
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>>122498598
Make me.
>>
>>122494304
why not both?
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>finally make it to Greed with Hourglass+Chaos card

>the machine is rigged to stop working after 3 coins


Like, if it's a mindless grind for hours even when you are ""cheating"", what is the fucking point in having this mechanic to begin with?

Fuck you Edmund
>>
>cant get to mega stan because of key bullshit
So how far should I go before resetting because this is retarded
>>
>find Abaddon in a stone chest as the Keeper thanks to CHAOS
>"fuck it why not"
>have no health
>not dead
>kill the boss without getting hit
>pedistal item is godhead
>the second I pick it up I immediately kneel over and die

Why does this guy exist again
>>
>>122495462
you probably didnt

define which
>>
>>122499409
be grateful anon my kept jamming after 1 coin :^)
>>
>>122499497
Ketchup for your steak. Free of charge.
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>>122498598
what about their mother?
>>
>>122499707
She's eight at most senpai.
>>
>>122499707
hey if tranny isaac floats your boat, go for it.

>>122499448
The keys aren't even that hard. Are you just shit at getting deals? Also reset by the womb 2 if you haven't gotten the key pieces.
>>
>get 1 dollar in utero
>2nd machine breaks at 96 coins and gives me another dollar
>kill super greed in Sheol with 99 coins and a good 20 laying on the floor

This is such a fucking joke.
Why is there never a fucking useful room in any of Sheol?
>>
>>122499707
>she
>>
At this point I'm pretty fucking sure Nicalis are just bad at game design. Who the fuck thought narrow room War was fair?
>>
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>>122499775
That doesn't make her any less of a hot demon.
>>
>>122499886
>Take no deals
>Get 1 angel room
>rest are devil rooms
It's just shit luck I suppose but god damn is it not frusterating
>>
>>122494304
There are a bunch of build defining items and new synergies. Also, the base game mode is saturated enough in terms of floors and bosses.

Greed Mode is a massive disappointment, but the rest is good.
>>
>>122499931
the womb and beyond are basically fucked for fun rooms. Honestly I hate it and always have, makes runs way more boring.
>>
>>122499932
are you saying men can't be mothers!!!
>>
>>122499983
If you want fairness go play CoD or one of the JRPGs they shill on v, TBoI is not the game for you.
>>
>>122500169
>CoD
>fair
>>
>>122500016
>Get 1 Angel room
That's enough, family.
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>>122500057
It's really frustrating at times.
Just give me a simple arcade room, not even a shop, and I'd be happy.


>filters
Knock it.
>>
>>122499690
I mean it's nice there was another character, but did he have to be just a marginally better Lost?
>>
>>122500370
>ugly ass filters
>>
>>122500638
>better
not post-Mantle
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>Mfw tech 2 + Rubber Cement
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How about that ARG, boys? Pretty exciting, right?
>>
>>122501365
>azazel with rubber cement
>>
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thanks
>>
>>122501612
>linking to kotaku
I don't WANT to hate you Ed.
>>
>>122501902
Press spacebar while next to the machine
>>
>>122501902
>steak'd
>>
Has anyone noticed Mega Satan summons random Sins more often since the last few patches? It used to be that if you took a while between each wave then he would summon them but I'm getting them after a few seconds now.
>>
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New thread when?
Oh wait.
>>122502090
>>122502090
>>122502090

Pic unrelated.
>>
>>122499538
this one >>122433112
>>
>>122499497
You abandoned your faith in god and then decided to abandon the devil. That's what you get.
>>
>>122502165
BOOP THE SNO-
oh yeah, almost forgot this was /boig/
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>>122501612
>nothing about buffing keeper
into
the
trash
>>
So they go to the trouble of giving Lost D4, but then also give him Holy Mantle so fucking nobody will ever want to use it?

Why?
>>
>>122502092

i did

i ended up with lard
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>>122501612
>copy paste the summary from reddit and add a few sentences here and there to make it look like your own work
Good job, clearly lessons were learned about journalism.
>>
>>122479362
Yup. Fire away anon.
>>
>>122469657
do you also get the other unlocks if you CE 999 coins?
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