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>iCBT2 Details
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>What is Tree of Savior?
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>What's changed since iCBT1?
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>Current Beta Tests
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>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
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First for wanting Gesti to sit on my face
Vakarine bes goddes gabija #2
>Dungeons don't work
>The moment I'm out of their level range they work
E P I C
goddam are parties broke again? I just hit 130 before going to sleep yesterday
>>122395260
nice related picture senpai
Damn.
>>122395238
Even fucking Clerics do more damage that Wizards. I am fine with 1m cooldowns but this shit damage is just sad.
>>122395565
Are you kill?
>>122394476
I'm another person that went Pyro->Pyro->Link->Sorc, and I have Summon Servant at level 1 right now. It increases your AoE ratio by one for 4 minutes (Much longer than cooldown) and very rarely gives another buff (Think it gave the party I was in shade one time, don't think any class has a shade party buff). I don't know about future levels, but I'd say it starts with one effect and has all of the listed effects at max level and the attribute increases the chances of extra random buffs (Requires Summon Servant level 3 IIRC).
How noticeable is another level into Summoning for the summon stat increase and did you bother taking any of the summon commands?
>>122395542
I thought it was a Chronmancer for some reason until I realized that I've never seen a Chronomancer before... oh well
Is anybody aware of where this drops?
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/recipes/10025/
>>122395662
No, why?
Just partied with a Reiter in the 175 dungeon.
All I can say is, if you're playing archer and not making it into a Reiter, you're a fucking retard.
She basically solo cleared everything while I aggro'd them, retreat shot is ridiculously strong.
Can someone tell me why I need to grind prison?
157 right now, when do I stop
>>122395772
did you catch her class progression?
>linked ice wall
This works a lot better than i was expecting it to
The key is to make a double thick wall to keep each blocks projectiles in a tighter spread.
>>122395449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xpWYHHTzaI
VIRRRRRRRGINIAAAAAAA
>>122395819
>he fell for the meme
How do I start the quest chain in Sunset Flag Forest?
>>122395698
I mean, your head is backward.
You sure you fine?
Finally, it really seems like it takes ages to get to the next circle
>>122395839
archer 3 wugu 2 reiter
>>122395694
it might not drop anywhere, anon
Where is Karolis fountain? Is there anyway to get there? I'm trying to follow the quests on the quest database.
>>122395772
but i hate rangers and sapper skills dont work while mounted
>>122395948
Just wait for the next one, you're in for some suffering.
>>122395942
Well, I don't think this is healthy, of course. But Goddess' huge tits keep me alive.
>>122396018
well good thing it doesn't matter, because she only used like 2 non reiter skills, some wugushi shit and multishot.
>>122395094
I didn't know if 3 more links would make that big of a difference, but it really feels a lot more powerful. I think it increases the range too, but that could just be because more things are linking.
I'm not sure if buff sharing actually works. I have 5 points in it, but when I share buffs I never see extra fire damage on my part member's attacks if I have Enchant Fire up.
>>122395669
I leveled it up to level 2 and the cat always casted two buffs. I leveled it up to 3 and the cat always casted three buffs (AoE ratio, Stamina Regen, and SP recovery length, which seem to cut ticks down to 7 seconds). I assume at 5 it'll always cast 5 buffs, but I'm not high enough to check that yet.
The damage increase from level 1 summon to level 2 wasn't that great. I'll probably reset and stick with 1 for now.
I also have one point in the fire summon. It's okay. He's pretty mindless (attacks closest thing to you, like Bokor zombies) and hits for about 75% of the damage that my summon does (summons hit for 1000+, fire guy hits for like 750ish).
Really it's hard to tell how these things scale with only a couple points to throw around. I need to get some more class levels.
who /cute/ here
>>122396043
I'm ready, sapper has been surprisingly fun to me.
>>122396308
I also tried buff share -> then cast buff and it doesn't seem to share the buff either. I'm gonna hang on to it for now (just because the only other thing I could switch points to is Physical Link) just in case someone actually knows how to make it work.
>>122396486you
>>122396043
It's far less suffering once you get Sapper c2, actually felt faster than before for me.
>>122395819
>>122395884
So I won't puck myself if I pop the cards now and do the quests normally?
My goal is just to hit rank6 fast
>people selling things with 1 potential left
won't it break when you buy it then?
>>122396727
hitting 0 potential doesn't destroy the item, you just can't trade it any more.
>>122396565
Where do I get Ash wood, senpai? Should I even bother with collar bomb?
>want to grind demon prison
>don't want to be in a party with other people
Why am I playing a MMO again?
>>122396869
dievderby master, in the tutorial zone.
collar bomb sucks
How do I KISS someone, please help
>>122397229
Why would you do that, it's disgusting.
>>122397060
>tutorial area
Pardon me?
>collar bomb sucks
why?
Fuck all of this work for a beta.
Are there really no better grinding spots 165-175 other then demon prison? Seems like pretty bad design on their part. Basically the level that will deter the majority of people from playing this game is 145+. It's a shame because progression up to this point was actually really good and well paced. Not once did it feel like a work, grind or a chore.
The best strategy out there right now is that as soon as you can quest in Demon Prison F2 (which is lvl 144) you better start grinding here all the way until lvl 165. Also keep 149 lvl 7 exp cards (the max you can get) and every single lvl 8 exp card as well if you want to stand any chance of skipping past 165-175 so new quest zones/better grind spots open up. So at level 144-175 one map, with one channel, is the absolute best zone for you to level in. That's 31 levels in one area, not once did you have to stay that long in any area of the game before this.
So the question is what can IMC do to make help ease this wall?besides cash shop EXP boostersI think they should include a dungeon inbetween 130-175. This way people will have something to do while also grinding it out.
Are there any interesting ginding spots beyond level 18x? I am not sure where I should be grinding at this point, besides Verkti Square.
>>122397052
I do just fine grinding soloas a barblander
>>122397229
What the hell are you asking!
>>122397417
west klaepedia, literally the first warp top left
>>122397229
I can teach you, what server?
so archers should actually go heavy dex and stack + crit attack items like barbarians, right?
>>122397417
the map you start at
>enemies can resist it
>shit tier aoe
>one hit
>>122397418
make the party quests have an option of what reward you want, so you can get an extra 15 exp cards a day, but also make them actually require a party.
and ofcourse just add more areas, and make the other areas not fucking suck for grinding.
>>122397892
>enemies can resist having a bomb stuck to them
ayyy
>>122397527
>>122397892
thanks senpaitachi. I think a mosnter also drop them, but they are quite cheap so whatever. Also I just tested my lvl 5 broom trap, that range is ridiculous holy shit
>>122397815
Prioritize Str over Dex unless you have Archer 2 or Rogue for their crit bonus.
>>122398082
Someone needs to teach France that one.Too soon?
>>122398405
baka tbm senpai
>>122398223
was thinking of trying to figureout how best to make archer3 work by getting up to circle 5 real fast so next beta i can try a black rider
Ive tried archer3 with a spr build before and it was pretty crap so i deleted it. But i then tried a barbarian and even though it was a meme barblander its auto attacks still worked pretty good, so i was thinking with archer crit buff focusing on dex would be smart
Ive kind of identified the archer problem, their skills just cost too much sp. barb skills cost half as much and do twice the damage.
I was thinking 15 swift and multi, 1 in heavy and oblique, and thats really it. 5 in twin arrow because even though i hear it sucks, may as well. and the remaining 8 points in kneeling shot for mindless 'afk' grinding/farming while watching videos or something.
Focus on getting gloves with 2x crit damage gems in it, and that crit damage bow and just +ing it a bunch and adding crit damage gems to it and that carrying through till meme dagger (bow bonus vs flying though ive found very useful in the past when soloing as an archer, so i could probably just keep that bow
can easily get an extra 200 crit attack just from the above cheap crap items, and with archer buff you will get into 'always critting' teritory much earlier
The nice thing, the only nice thing, about archer grinding is that if mobs are spread out you dont really care much. It means you can find a place with kind of crappy density but consistant spawns and just walk around with your thumb on the attack button. Particularly vs flying enemies
I just wonder if this is really the best way to handle it
>have 500k worth of materials to sell
>everything on the market just gets stolen
>>122399450
oh, and archer will need some con.
So something like 30 con by 50, 60 con by 120, rest into dex unless with buff its crits all the time, then str.
Still no dungeon ;_;
>>122399450
spr heavy build is definitely crap, its the same logic behind why you don't go heavy spr on mage, its pointless because sp pots don't scale. I liked the heavy dex builds with like bit of spr at the start, and then I just got the best +5 bows for level 40,75 etc to make up for the damage, works out pretty nice.
Do the $3 keys on G2A work?
>b-but barbarians are shit late game!
>seism
this is some broken ass shit
For what purpose?
I want a cute pyromancer girlfriend!
Should I buy a Cranequin or a Sniper Crossbow?
Hows the combat in this game? Is it like Dungeon Fighter Online at all?
>>122399916
maybe she thought Surespell worked on Psychic Pressure but didnt want to reroll
So after Vieta Gorge all places only have 1 channel?I like changing servers because it heals my pet for some reason.
Fucking shitballs 660k down the drain trying to get a +8 spear.
I am back to +5.
>>122399913
They are shit. I get 400k more exp/hr in parties with one wizard class than ones full of barbs.
>>122399913
Rank 5 isn't late game anon. That'd be rank 9+, which isn't available yet.
>>122400060
Correct. All those empty early game areas have 20 channels while the chokepoints everyone gets stuck at have only 1 channel.
Good luck!
>>122399707
>piranha
nice name for a slut
>>122399936
i wish i had a krivis gf
>tfw no qt lightning zaibas gf that can heal u sometimes
>>122400076
If you liked dank normalfag memes, perhaps you'd have better luck.
Look at how nice it shines red and white.
how do you get Japanese voices?
How do you guys do different colored text over your head?
>>122397892
I tested it anyway
>has a timer
>I can't activate it any other way
That's not that bad I guess but a 50 seconds cooldown? I'd rather cast two spiky stockades and run around them while attracting the monsters to it, I could even detonate them for 2 hits if I wanted to. Collar's damage seems nice, but even claymore is more useful while requiring a 300 input item per detonation.
>resisted
Who thought this was a good idea?
>>122399994
Also interested in this. The videos make it look like point and click like Ragnarok Online?
>2H swords are all terrible
>>122399680
>this pic
FUCK YOU, STOP THAT, WHY YOU DO THIS
>>122399916
You haven't even seen what a mad man looks like
>>122400482
user.xml, inside the sounds tab, look for an empty language field. Fill it with "Japanese".
>>122400340
Other screenshot. That's the Mahou Shoujo stick at +15. Not as shiny as the +20 dank sword, but still neat.
>>122400595
it's Ragnarok with a jump button, you can also play with a controller, the game is like Ys that way
>>122400340
I'd rather cut my wrists with a dull knife.
>>122400717
Nigga please.
>>122399801
Anyone? Also will stuff be wiped from CBT to OBT?
Is the market still eating items?
>>122400717
if the quick cast aoe thing is true that would actually be pretty strong. my pyrothurges basic attack was pretty good once i got memedagger and the hand buff atributes raised up.
what the ever living dogshit is this icon on my minimap
>>122401159
Took that in a dungeon with them, it's not true.
How do I see my dungeon progress for the day? I'm so embarrassed.
>>122401230
A npc lying down for a short nap
>>122400717
>he fell for the Thaumaturge meme
>>122401230
It's a npc
Grind spots for lvl 80? Help me /tosg/
I see players with yellow text over their heads displaying that they're lfp
How do you do it?
>>122401401
royal mausoleum, baron, do your quests,explore
>>122401563
!! texthere
>>122401296
While in normal chat type /indun
>>122401563
in normal chat type "!!message here" without the quotes.
>>122401657
I did all the quest i guess for what i'm seeing i didnt dungeon enough at lvl 50
>>122401657
>>122401726
ah. someone said 2! ingame but I didn't realize they actually meant two exclamation points
>average Drake Horn price on the market is 5000, but the items just get eaten
>average buy in shop price is like 500
Thanks IMC
>go to the lv 130 dung to kill time
>come out in 30
>same people still waiting for a party
ayy
>>122401818
>all of the quests
tried mausoleum, baron line, farms?
Is the market bugged or is it actually hackers stealing the items?
>>122400793
Derf is a lebbitard what did you expect from his stack
>>122402284
the market is eating items to stay alive
>>122402046
I make an effort to take everyone in, even the unpopular classes unless they're something really terrible like cleric 3 diev 2. And even then I would do it if I have a strong party
>>122402284
That's actually a good question
Who knows tho
>>122402363
That makes more sense than it should.
thx obama
>>122402420
would you take krivis diev3
>>122402420
as long as you have a priest with decent blessing, every class does DPS so I just invite everyone I can find
>>122396605
I went to bed one night, left my repair shop open, then woke up to find 10 more likes on my character. I don't know if I want to know what happened that night.
>>122402595
Yes, it would be slower but I don't care. I want to run around your statue for invincibility that we don't even need.
I want to make a new character, but just thinking about all of the quests I'll have to do again makes me want to die.
>1 more level to the new weapon tier
>2 more class levels til i'm out of the Ranger 2 life
I can't handle the wait.
>>122403075
I hate the mines so much
Can someone link the treasure chest guide please?
>can make a buy-in shop
>can't make a buy-out shop
I guess it's because the market is around? But when it's actually up it just fucking eats the items.
I've been farming for Blasphemous Deathweaver for 3 days now, have yet to find or notice any mention of him.
Convinced its an event boss similar to Dullahan. Perhaps you need x amount of kills inside the zone, as he was reported fairly frequently at the start of beta when the mines were filled with players.
>>122403075
If you can afford a pet (or have one leveled) you can have it carry your alt through many levels. My pet is 100+ and on an alt basically solos everything until after Mausoleum.
>>122403559
It just makes me lazy to think I'll have to go through 300 maps again though. I don't mind the killing itself, the whole walking around from one side to another, then walking to the other side and exploring the whole map to make sure I didn't miss any NPC, it's fucking my shit up.
how do you 100% the map on mausoleum 4f?
Can anyone confirm whether you can use the Falcon pet on classes other than Falconer?
I finally got enough money for it together and was about to buy it
>>122401726
I've seen people with blue and pink text aswell any idea what those are?
>>122403975
you cant
There are party quests that don't give you shit or everything is just random?
>>122403975
You cannot. It specifically says you require "certain skills" in the description when you try to buy it it wont let you. That's why you dont see anyone with them.
>>122403075
If you want to make an archer or wiz character, don't even bother.
>>122404161
>>122404101
Welp, that fucking sucks. So you are stuck with the shitty looking mole rat thing for 100k then. Makes me not even want to get one
>>122404312
you could also buy the griffon thingy
>tfw no 175 dunjun runs
I'm 103, should I stick to dungeons till 110 or go quest?
>>122403150
I feel you
>>122404720
If you could get in, yes
>>122404720
both
>be CryoKino
>finally get meme dagger
>DPS is still kind of shit
I mean yeah I can oneshot bosses, but dammit is my grinding speed awful
>>122403150
Ranger C3 as your rank 5?
>>122404902
What do you mean, I can't get in? But I got in three times today, even got meme dagger on last
>>122405087
Rank 4 yeah.
No clue what weapons to buy now. I need to move away from this Iron Bow.
>>122405305
well you should probably be looking towards a crossbow as your next big purchase so you can dual wield with an arde dagger, unless you're dead set on Fletcher or something
>>122405025
>CryoKino
that's the problem
high set up time for your dps costing always a % of your sp, yeah
>>122405463
I guess I'll buy a cheap Crossbow then. I've never ever broken like 40k on this character because of pots.
>>122405305
I can give you a shitty bow I dropped on mausoleum f2 if you're on gabija, Kaman's the name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IZ4vrRNOmU
Is there another class with this much dps at this point in the game?
Its my third character and its been absurdly easy compared to my pyrolinker and barbarian
I 2-hit most bosses with cartar stroke up to level 45 or so
>>122405687
Sure, I'm the guy who bugged out on Bearaspion in the last thread.
>>122406115
well a cryokino can potentially do that much but the ridiculous amount of setup and the fact that if the boss summons minions you're kind of fucked makes it really annoying as compared to lol pain barrier cartar stroke
>>122406234
let's meet on klaipéda's 10th channel, near the archer master. Name's Kanklis btw. Also, hows Ranger so far, fun or pure suffering?
>>122406473
Its alright. The hardest part was probably dealing with Bramble because you have to get right up in its face to hit it with Barrage.
Ravinepede was strangely not that bad.
>>122406115
Every retard that shows how he kills quest trash should kill himself. Such as retards that think its some sort of dps measurement.
Am I missing a quest or something?
>>122406623
Ravinpede is a nightmare for melee, ranged not so much
Vampire class HYPEEEEEEEEE. Can't wait for OBT
>>122406115
>people actually think this is good dps
>these are the same people that compare about Highlander/Barbarian
Have they never seen a CryoKino? Do they not even play the fucking game?
>>122375143
Let's not forget that Divine Stigma is currently so broken, it doesn't apply the buff if your Sadhu OOB form kills it with the OOB autoattack. But I guess I wouldn't know, since I haven't played either class :^)
>>122406115
I kill bosses faster than that with Tet Mamak La.
>Grinding Roxona market
>Find a blue a couple of days ago, only type of monster on the map I can't overkill
>curse my luck and go on with my day
>Finally find another one today
>It's my time to shine
>Check Pierce, It's off cooldown
>Spear lunge and Pierce instinctively
>Spear lunge isn't happening
>It was on cooldown
>No, stop don't do it
>It's too late
>It happened already
>No overkill
Fuck me, I only use Spear lunge to deal with the annoying mage guys so they die in a single auto attack afterwards.
>shitters that seriously think barbarians ARENT the highest dps class in the game
>fox and grapes
wew
>>122407042
Does Oracle actually do stuff? I like meta classes like that, but it seems really weak.
>>122407042
Yeah well let's not forget that your character is literally built for sex and you're going to have to take responsibility for putting me in this state.
>>122407242
It's a class that just farms rare mats/items
>>122407408
I know, but I'm saying it seems really bad at doing that.
I'm a bit lost here, Should I max detonate, claymore or something between? Sucks having to pay $300 on a single claymore for someone as poor as me, but the damage is kinda nice.
>>122407197
>complaining about not being able to overkill a blue while playing the only class tree capable of overkilling
Yeah fuck you too.
>>122407242
The usefulness of Resetting and Clairvoyance is gated by the shorter cooldown between the two, and Resetting has a 130s cooldown, so they're not very useful.
Death Sentence with the movespeed reduction attribute maxed might be very useful in PvP, but I don't really have opportunities to test this.
Change might be useful for farming gold. I'm leveling the attribute that gives a max 2.5% chance to generate a rare mob, but it's pretty expensive.
Counter Spell might also be useful in PvP (maybe). It's nice for removing annoying stuff like Restrained Attack traps, but it also removes my own magic circles so it's quite situational.
>>122400340
>got my weapon only to +8 before it got to 1 potential
>had 8 potential, didn't even socket it
>this guy socketed it and got to +20
what, how?
how is this even possible
>People selling the Sniper Crossbow Recipe for less than the shop sell value.
Not like it matters too much for me since I'm going to go farm Cronewts until I get the mats the drop.
>>122407330id be happy to take responsibility :3
>>122407653
The longer cooldown between the two, I mean.
>>122407472
>only good trap has 1 minute cooldown
memeclass
>>122407472
I see you here :D
also you really should max claymore and get the attributes for it, it's quite strong once you get to sapper c2, but broom trap is also really good so thats fine to max first
>>122407932
>:D
normie fuck off
what are the rewards for being top 10%
>>122408318absolutely nothing
I just want her to fucking sweat all over me.
>>122408318
a sense of shame
>>122408318
NPC of choice sucks you dry
>>122408318
not a social life
>>122408435
Gesti Besti
>>122407918
Stockade is good for killing a bunch melee mobs, just attract them to it. Hits thrice and you can put 2 before cooldown, I use it all the time. Detonate has a decent range and you can detonate the stockades when they're about to wear off, so that's a plus, not to mention potential pvp potential I guess. Broom is amazing and Claymore is nice but costly.
>>122407932
Hey, I'll try that, thanks
Help! I'm going for corsair, I am swrodsman C3, and I'm about to pick my 4th circle. I cant figure out what class would help out corsair the most.
Hmm.
>>122408704
>swordsman C3
You absolute madman
>>122408318
Top 10% is easy to get. Chances are you are in there if you are above lv100. There's just such a ridiculous amount of low level characters that never played more than an hour or two.
>want to go to Baron Allerno for my quests
>this channel is full
>>122408704
>swordsman c3
Anyone wanna trade a Vuvuzella for a 5kg Dumbbell on Gabija?
>>122407527
>What is Meteor
>>122407197
>Grinding Roxona market
>Find a blue a couple of days ago, only type of monster on the map I can't overkill
>curse my luck and go on with my day
>Finally find another one today
>It's my time to shine
>Check Pierce, It's off cooldown
>Spear lunge and Pierce instinctively
>Spear lunge isn't happening
>Realize I'm not the special snowflake class that can overkill monsters easily
>I'm actually a wizard and can't overkill anything
>Not Elementalist too
>No overkill
>Kills it like always
>Get exp
>mfw
>>122408318
TOP OF WHAT? ADVENTURE? LMAO
BUY CHEAP MATS AND CRAFT
Anyone got a link to that leveling guide ? It was a google document. I lost the link for it and I never bookmarked it
>>122408980
>What is 90 sec cooldown
Obviously I'm talking about overkilling effectively.
>>122408318
Lot of low lvl qts want to kiss you.
>>122409087
It sucks don't bother
Why can't I find a meme dagger to finally replace this?
Why do people say Linker C2 is useless?
Top lmao. You can't go past the bridge in Mausoleum 5F if you have mouse controls.
>>122409201
Why were you born?
>>122408980
>mfw KS overkill everything eleslut gathers right before meteor is done casting
>>122409201
C3 isn't that great. C2 is amazing.
>>122409537
>C3 isn't that great
>400 all stat isn't that greait
>>122408704
>Swordsman C3
The best you could do is get Hoplite for Finestra if you really want to do an auto attack build.
>>122409613
inb4 shitters
>b-but why 400 str on wiz?????????????
anyone not feeling it anymore? I only have a 130 character, but don't feel as motivated to do stuff as I was earlier
I'm starving. I haven't had a kiss in Klaipeda for three stinking days.
>>122409741
I don't know if I'm having fun. I just want to get to rank 6.
>>122409125
And pierce is on a 45 second cooldown, and needs to crit and to be used right after spear lunge.
I'm just as miserable as you are my friend.
>>122408318
What are the rewards for being top 3?
>>122409126
I actually did notice random people start throwing me likes when I got on the first page.
>>122409201
It's useless unless you plan on going Thaumaturge. In that case it's absolutely required.
5 more points in Joint Penalty only gives you 3 more links, and the rest of Linker's abilities don't really scale with levels that well.
>>122409173
For 800k it can be yours.
>>122409902
>required
Having just linker 1 is completely fine. Delaying getting Thau 2 in favor of 3 more links on Joint Penalty is definitely not worth it.
Source: I went Linker 2 before Thau and heavily regret it.
>>122410161
I thought you needed Spiritual Chain to reliably buff everyone in your party as a Thaum?
>>122409741
Nope, I'm just as happy playing as I have been. I want to hit rank 6, but couldn't play much today. Still, the night is young and so am I.
>>122409902
Why would linker 2 be useful for thaumaturge?
The buffs are already aoe, you can go up to 6 links with one gem which is more than enough.
>>122409157
I still want it.
>>122410223
No. Swell Left and Right arm have good enough range to buff everyone. Spiritual Chain is actually fucking garbage if you aren't partying with a Krivis to increase buff cap. It will constantly push off important self buffs from other classes and subsequently piss everyone off.
>>122409861
>21k puts you in the top 10
That's Saule, right?
>>122406115
>Cartar Stroke
>High DPS
I'm highlander C3 and it almost never feels high. The chargetime on Cartar Stroke is a bad joke that only gets worse the higher it gets.Most I've ever hit is maybe 6k with buffs, meme dagger+golden falchion(+5) on some dungeon trash in the Lv.90 dungeon.
In the same time it took me to charge that Cartar Stroke the Barbarian could have just Seism'd them and get the same results and kill more enemies.
Just asking one thing, I'm trying to enter a freaking istance. I say ok and all, but the char just goes behind the sign and nothing happens. Someone has a solution to this?
>>122409861
>playing with literal monkeys
>>122410534
Okay, well that's what I get for parroting what people said weeks ago and doing none of my own research.
Are dungeons broken again?
The black hair achievement. I can simply start killing Hanamings at any time or level or do I need to get a quest somewhere first?
>>122410906
Just kill the mobs
>>122410906
Just kill 'em. Check your achievement.
fyi pet kills don't count, so put away any pets.
I'm calling it for now. I'm tired of my character and I sure as hell won't do all that questing again on a new character. Maybe I'll play in the next beta/launch if they fix the game.
lvl 76 and no quests
did I miss something...
>>122410548
Yes.
>>122410689
It was actually pretty decent until this last batch of beta keys went out. Now it's the highest population server by a wide margin.
Who /doublepunch/ here?
>>122410976
>>122411049
Thank you
OUTSKILLED
>tfw squire's armor maintenance is garbage and only work on shield, top or bottom.
>tfw weapon maintenance attribute is useless as you will never use all 3k charges
>tfw squire1 only give 30+ damage on a 5star weapon
>only decent skill arrest has 54s CD and could be resisted
>this class is a meme
>>122411870
OUTBUGGED
Platinum question:
Where do I grind at 169?
Trying to grind e v r y w h e r e since 165, It's not even that hard, but maybe there is some magical map I'm missing.
>>122411870
is he hard?
>>122411870
I will remember you, little slut.
>>122411439
Probably a lot
>>122411692
I wish they removed that horrible effect on the hands, it looks awful. If the game has nice animations they should show them instead of using cheap sfx.
>>122411439
Probably
You shouldn't run out that early
>>122412108
You pop your cards.
>>122410623
it just means the dungeon channel is lagging, you have to wait for it to work but the only way to find out if it works is to spam it
>>122412118
Nah, he's afk autoattack tier.
>>122407664
obvious hacks is obvious
>>122411921
>>tfw weapon maintenance attribute is useless as you will never use all 3k charges
Why do I need to use all 3k charges? Dont I pay my 2k to my personal slut for a buff every hour?
>>122412295
I don't have any because I've chosen the man's way.
>>122411921
squire is only worth if you go c2
>>122395524
spam it
>>122411692
Did you seriously go Bokor into Monk?
What is wrong with you.
>>122413118
>I don't have any
have fun in constructors chapel
>mfw Flare can be used like a smaller scale Swashbuckling with 3 charges
Love when oblique decides to bounce off random objects instead of mobs
>>122413272
I think he might have gone mad from ks my shit with his brs all day
Who injected steroids on the bees?
>>122413118
Oh jeez man you're just fucked
>>122413272
Why would that be bad?
>>122412108
Second Demon Prison is alright, the trees good XP and there are a lot of them. They're tanky as fuck though so better to do it in a party. Roxona Agency place is a good alternative if you know where to go. Enjoy grinding to 173!Don't kill yourself.
>>122413272
I wanted some way to hit things outside of auto attack. Also bokor c3 didn't seem too great cause all it really had was the zombie explosion. What's wrong with monk?
>thresh two handed is more common than the battle bracelet
>hit rank 2 trying to get it to drop
>next guy has 700 more
Imean sure the game has Thaum/Oracle/Doppel for the rate increases by why make so many items in the game be less that 1% drop.
>>122412803
I mean the attribute where u get more charges 20/lv, i cant even use up my initial 3k charges what do i need 2k more for? the buff only last 1 hr
>>122413246
I imagine only the food table is worth shit, because maxed armor maintain still only give +10 def/resist to 3 pieces of armor
Maybe weapon maintenance will be useful too, but i don't know.
On top of that i go Sword> Highlander3 >squire. I feel like my build went to shit after memedagger
>finally see a blue mob in demon prison
>remember I can't overkill things my level because I'm a monk
>>122413118
>didnt save his cards
its literally faster to reroll and get back where you are than it is to try and grind out 165-175 manually. you are fucked and you will not reach 200 before beta ends
>>122413596
>>122413898
Bokor's best skills have 100% uptime and the class does absolutely nothing when you aren't using them, so you can't really make full use of Bokor + any other active offensive class.
I guess it would be good for bossing if you hate fucking around with Tet Mamak La.
Why do people say highlander falls off?
Looking at its skills it seems like it'd work great going
sword->high2->barb->whatever you want x2
Moulinet hits 5 times and is basically 100% crit rate
Cross cut hits twice with oheat and 28s CD, with 8s bleed of 100%/s
Skyliner hits twice with oheat, 22s CD, does 2x damage against bleeding enemy.
Yeah none of the skills have seism levels of fucking retarded attack values that have to be nerfed, but you get a bunch of multihits that can be used very often.
I don't see why it is supposed to become shit.
Been asking this for like 40 threads
Does the 400k pet have better stats than the 100k pet? and does the training/levels form one pet carry over to the other pets you acquire? or you have to relevel/retrain them everytime you get a new pet? thanks.
>>122414261
you can't use meme daggers with 2h swords
>>122414121
That's kind of the reason I took monk. I wanted the 3 physical skills so I had some way of hurting bosses outside of monkey skull bullshitting and so I have an easier time getting zombies set up. zombies still work great outside of bwa kayiman as tanks though since I have 100 spirit.
>>122414337
You have to re level. They're completely separate
>>122414337
They're exactly the same and yes your pet's level and stats will carry over. Just click on it in your lounge and have it tag along with one of your characters.
This shit never gets old. Literally thinking of going Cleric 2 just for deprotected zone and more safety wall
How do I input the donut and other {} markup without having to dick around with a debugger?
>>122414359
So?
Just don't use 2h swords
Nothing but cross guard requires it, and that skill is shit anyways.
>You can't skill while on Kneeling shot
AAAAAND it's fucking trash. Archer's really suck.
>>122414614
It's for afk grinding dumbass
Anyone on gaba have a glad band (recipe) I pay you good goy!
>>122414121
I don't see how that's bad if you want to go for a Damage build. Both rely on STR and weapon stats, you can have your zombies up while you use Monk skills. Sure, you could go Priest instead of Bokor for more punch damage, but I don't see nothing wrong with going Bokor and Monk.
>>122414543
I tell you if you tell me the variable name of the donut
>>122414023
RIP delicious EXP
>>122414853
It's just that Bokor is a complete waste of ranks while you're using Monk skills, and vice versa. Zero synergy.
>>122414536
So what the fuck is this, are you extending your melee range with deprotect?
>>122414121
>bokor c2 has amazing grinding/aoe potential
>monk has amazing bossing potential but shit aoe since kamehame is on a 60s cd.
>no syngergy
oh you know like... maybe they cover each other's weaknesses and shit....
My only concern with bokor is the scaling, Zombies seem to beneffit from very different stats you can't simply cover all of them or you'll end up being shit.
By picking Bokor instead of 2 circles of priest or whatever you aren't missing that much, sacrament only shines when you auto attack, double punch doesn't proc sacrament.
Maybe it's more on the solo side, but haven't grouped since I've gotten bwa kamiyan. I'm very happy with the combo, but holding the skill button for bwa kamiyan on my controller can get tiresome when you're playing for a shit ton of time I wish there was a way to make it a toggle.
>im finally free from mobs with freeze
>now they have sleep and poison
whos idea was this?
>>122414606
And waste highlander's 2h attribute which is the only thing that makes it decent.
Might as well go Barbarian instead.
>>122415017
hand knife gets a huge range when used with deprotected zone
>>122413118
I stayed at Prison D4 until 172 then used the cards I saved from the 169 quest to get to 173.
Did the quests again, grinded for a bit and reached 175.
At that point you can do the instance and try challenging some of the higher areas as monsters won't hit you as hard, be warned none of them are as effective as prison, but they're not bad.
Don't let anyone tell you you're fucked. I almost fell for it and quit playing last week.
>>122415017
He's using hand knife on a mob under deprotection zone which creates a shockwave beyond that first mob that you hit. It does a lot of damage and is pretty useful.
>>122415086
Bokor has worked pretty well for me just by pumping a mix of dex and spirit. Spirit makes them really tanky and then dex because of the crits and everything.
Bokor also works great whenever I want to grind alone but then I don't even need sacrament and blessing when partying in dungeons since I've got a circle of krivis too and people usually love to take me along with a priest since I've got daino.
>>122414975
Maybe, but I can see why having Bokor and Monk skills would be fun. Most sub-rank 4 classes are going to become useless late game anyway.
>>122414891
It's just the image file name. It can work any other icon, like link_party for the party link.
>>122415227
The 2h attribute is and always has been garbage.
By trading sword/high2 for instead of sword2/barb
You effectively trade restrain, cleave, and seism at r3 for cartar stroke, cross cut, moulinet, and skyliner
Honestly it seems like a decent trade.
I've already detailed why those high skills wouldn't really fall off, so really I just don't get it.
Is it just people parroting shit with no thought put into their words again?
>>122415276
>>122415393
Cool so it's like hidden synergy, I wonder how many left undiscovered
>>122415421
but donut is just icon_item_Bagel and that doesnt work with @dicID_ unless Im doing something wrong
>>122414891
>he can't bagel
>>122415276
That looks badass
I don't get how this economy works anymore. Usually the auction house would be a way to find standard pricings, but with items just getting eaten left and right I have no idea what anything is actually going for.
I'm glad this is just a beta.
>>122415656
I'm gonnabagelyour real hard kiddo.
>>122415698
dont worry. its safe now. put an expensive item and youll see.
>>122415698
Does this game even have an economy? People just seem to say some random number as a price then everyone else just follows.
If it ends up like this in release that'll be another reason to not play after whatever pay2win they bring out.
>cant fix shitty dungeons for 2 days, probably not even aware of the issue
I had enough of imc
>>122415276
Does this only work with Hand Knife?
>>122413979
Because this is an MMO my friend.
For there to be an economy, items need to be somewhat rare so that you're faced with the choice of either spending time trying to get them yourself or spending money.
>>122415656
>he can't meme up his party name
>>122415917
>122415917
this beta is nothing more then a stress test. the korean client has mostly everything fixed and we're just here to test their servers. they dont give two shits that you can't level a character that will be deleted in a week.
RIP Laima.
How do you stat build a mage?
>>122415964
Yes, it's a unique skill interaction like Psychic Pressure on Fireballs.
>>122413352
Isn't it the mauso map? R u trollin me m8?
>>122413527
I'm fine so far, my ass is hardened by LA2 and RO.
>>122413749
I think I'll get fucked by level penalty if I go for trees. Thanks for the advice and your care for me.
>>122414075
Let's try :^)
who /waiting4kOBT/ here?
>>122415276
RIP FPS
that combo is such a pain to use. they should make it work w/o the mob in deprotect zone tbqh
>>122416364
Turn off shiny effects when
>>122416019
>nothing more then a stress test
Actually the main goal has always been testing the English translation (typos, missing lines, etc).
The stress testing came in later, as even IMC themselves acknowledged they didn't expect so many testers to sign up.
>>122416229
I've seen people say that the XP penalty is 5 levels below, but isn't it 10? The trees are 163 right? You should be fine.
>>122416019
Shut up apologist swine, go suck small asian penis somewhere else.
>>122415560
Lv130 Thighlander C3 here, 130str and 110dex with femini
Moulinet is trash, only decent when use after skull swing because of 0 defense debuff. Don't know if because i don't do full dex meme, but my moulinet usually cri once on boss.
Bleed on crosscut only tick 1 or 0 times on plants or rocks mob.
Skyliner has shit range and wonky hitbox.
C3 highlander is almost not worth it other than skullswing and more crosscut lv.
vertical slash is vertical slash so no aoe cleave, 1hit and the stacking debuff don't work because you have 2 debuff.
Cartar 15 still strong but casting is 7.5s and almost never gonna pull it off.
Also cartar is only broken if you turn on collision damage attribute or it only hit 4 times.
Cartar crash you game if 1) you have concentration and blessing, 2) collision damage attribute on.
>>122416019
>the korean client has mostly everything fixed
Somehow I really doubt this.
People are using packet editors and cheat engines to make the game think they have 1 billion silver.
The buy your items off of the Market, your client sends the "OK" message to the server.
Server confirms and takes item off of market and deducts cheaters silver, but there is no silver.
Cheater now has actually negative coin, but re-lists items at a more expensive price, making an actual profit.
This is why only certain items are "stolen". If they steal way too overpriced items they can't get out of the real negative coin they have.
It's all thanks to the marketplace being in such early code.
Why do you think suddenly Arde Daggers went up so rapidly in price? The cheaters bought ALL of them and relisted at 2x price and since it's such a wanted glitch weapon people are willing to buy.
I just hope the actual cheaters report this so it can be fixed before open beta / release or you will not be able to even use the market at all since this is so well known now and easy to do it won't benefit anyone.
Will I get fucked later if I use the 166 quest cards to get to 175 instead of after?
>>122416779
I really doubt the money handling is done client-side.
Linkers are a meme
>shared buffs get cancelled because they fill up all the slots
>can't use physical link in dungeons because everyone will just die
>lifeline can't be up 100% and relies on everyone having different builds in Tree of DexBuilds, and even if they did have different builds it wouldn't matter to the other classes much that anyway(why would a wiz want a swordie's STR?)
Hangman and penalty are basically the only good skills so linker is actually only useful every 35 seconds.
>mfw people save party slots up for linkers
>>122416710
There's a fuck load of iCBT2-only bugs that kCBT doesn't have.
Though, the one thing that's still broken isthe class balance.
>>122416663
110 dex is your problem, that's criminally low
and as I said high2, with how def works skull swing just isn't worth it and vertical has never been worth it
>>122416817
the whole point is to use them from 165 to get to 175. you can quest and get more cards after that, and once you get to 186, gg you won
>>122416015
>>122415656
Teach me your secrets, I only know how to meme strings (this includes some formatting shit like bold too)
>>122417106
>I only know how to meme strings
How do you format strings?
You can't input {markup} because whenever you type { or } characters the field gets erased.
>>122416663
>Lv130 Thighlander C3 here
Do you look like this?
>>122416973
penalty has a 15s CD and hangman's is 10s
>>122409173
I sold mine for 700k not long ago.
Turns out that Thaum's quicken works on Sorc sommons. Temple shooter is scary damage output with it.
>only place to level at a rate that does not induce feelings of suicide and sexual inadequacy is the dungeon
>limit of 2 runs per 24 hours
>>122417429
I don't want to buy one, though. I've done 30 runs of the 90 dg now. Three cards, two beetlebacks and 25 talt. SURELY I'LL GET A MEME EVENTUALLY.
>>122417106
Can you post the general syntax on it? I forgot what it was.
I remember it was like @dicID^*2015_something*^ or something like that.
http://wiki.tosbase.com/wiki/Damage_Type#Missile
hurrr
>>122417539
By which I definitely meant Chrono, because Thaum does not have a quicken skill.
>>122416973
stop posting this
>>122417539
webm of this now
>>122417772
BUT. WHY.
>>122417772
>hey archers, we know you're kinda weak, do you want to be able to damage to anything that isn't a small flying monster?
>"y-yes please, IMC"
>haha fuck you, no quest bosses are flying and all bosses are XL
>>122415656
>>122416015
Does anyone still have 130 dungeon runs?
This game is so DED
>>122417992
Actually there are a few quest bosses that are flying for the purposes of calculation like Biteregina and like most ghosty bosses.
>>122417993
Slut. I know it's youTachikawa
>>122412132
I would fug Rexipher
Cleric > Krivis*2 > Sadhu*3
How should I distribute my skills
>>122417772
why not just make it piercing?
>>122418106
Biteregina isn't flying. I can broom trap and stake stockade it.
Same with any ghost quest bosses, so far.
>>122417772
Why must they hate archers so much
>>122418332
Did you even read the post you're replying to?
They count as flying for damage calculations, but you can still hit them with any skill.
>>122418346
Naofumi you don't even use a fucking bow.
>>122418309
They used to be Pierce and then they patched it because most of the enemies in the beginning were resistance to Pierce.
>>122418445
Oh whoops I missed that part.
>>122418346
Archers are perfectly balanced.
B A L A N C E D
>>122418117
who? we black now, but still don't know howto post icons. I have the ID/stringt but it only posts the translated name of the item not the icon, seems like there's another prefix or something
Is party creation bugged again?
>>122417772
Why can't we just use swords and hammers and axes as arrows?
>Missile Damage
+25% to Small Enemies
-25% to Large Enemies
-25% to XL Enemies
Would this make them better?
>>122418902
just 0/15/25/25 or something would be fine
halved at +5 still, removed at +10
>>122418902
Small enemies die fast enough as it is
>>122418902
>missile damage
>+50% to everything
fixed archer
>>122418902
WHY THE PENALTY. WE LODGE SHARP OBJECTS INTO ENEMIES TOO. WHY. HOW IS THAT ANY LESS THAN SWORDS
>>122418902
No
small enemies are turbo garbage for exp and already have have low hp and are not he most common thing.
Making missile just a straight 0% against everything
>>122417993
I'll meme up your party if you tell me how to input { } characters in the chat and other input boxes.
>>122418902
You forgot the crazy sp costs
>>122419062
it's for mechanic reason because you can use the same weapon against all types of armor, while melees have to carry 2/3 weapons and upgrade them all etc.
the problem is just the penalty is too high right now, and the archer tree skills are weak in general, the idea itself is fine
Anyone wanna do some Merc Missions/Party Quests?
Level 127.
>>122419062
Because this is Tree of Swordsmen.
In all fair and games I'd just turn Missile into +50% vs Flying, +0 vs non flying.
Then 2H Bow Mastery gets repurposed.
Does that meant here's a penalty for fucking guns?
why is everyone and everything in this game so damn evil? I just arrived on Mytrle farm and I can already tell everyone here is evil
>>122418902
Make missile damage get penalty the farther it is to the target
0-5 cells away = 100% damage
6 cells = -5%
7 = -10%
and so on
>>122418902
-25% to S
+0% to M
+25% to L
+0% to XL
desu
Or make it the same as pierce, because you're piercing shit with an arrow.
>>122417967
I've never made one of these before I hope you appreciate this.
>>122419235
Anything that an archer uses is Missile.
>>122419243
THe godesses left like a 10000000000 years ago
so evil has had a long time to spread, the cats away and all that.
>these fucking Hogfuckingfaggots blocking all my shit
fuck this game
>>122417772
At least you can pay your way out of the weakness.
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/if-you-want-this-to-be-a-grinding-game/117660/
>>122419428
Archers are already poor as fuck having to buy SP Pots as often as Wizards do. Then we have to pay to get to +10 to deal 100% damage.
>>122419428
Yeah. Its not like I have to upgrade attributes and buy sp pots to keep up with the mobs. I got plenty of coins to throw at upgrades!
>>122419106
You don't, atleast I don't know how. You go to the translation git and open up the ui.tsv You then use one of those without a closing {/} to add shit behind like this. I've tried doing this with parties but natuarlly that shitstring makes it way too long
whats the best 2h sword you can get thats farmable (as in not a world boss drop)
same question for 1h
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/okay-archers-feedback/117531
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/archer-classes-feedback-r-i-p/90381
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/archer-feedback/113376
It is literally impossible to get a group for the lvl 90 dungeon as a wizard
I just want to level
>>122419570
>Archers are already poor as fuck having to buy SP Pots as often as Wizards do.
Maybe if you never take your finger off Oblique shot or something. I've bought mana pots a whopping 3 times since the beta started. I only end up using them when I'm feeling impatient. Unless you actually need to damage both enemies simultaneously, just fucking shoot one for free, then shoot the other. It's that simple.
Lol look what I found, who wants to meme with this?
>>122419694
meant to say, level 75 2h and 1h
>>122418289
bump
>mfw sapper
>mfw pierce instead of missile damage
>>122419776
I stopped using Oblique a long time ago. Barrage eats SP up like a bitch.
>>122419762
>all Archer 3 retards whining
every time
>>122419776
>I've bought mana pots a whopping 3 times since the beta started
Have you made it to Tenet Chapel yet?
>>122419776
Archers like spamming oblique like they're using a 2H sword auto attacking, it just makes them feel assured and relevant, and do not suck
>>122416779
Are you implying market requests aren't checked by the server?
Cuz Kim Hakkyu has written few game servers from ground up in the past, it's kinda hard to believe he'd do some amateur shit like that.
>>122419653
Eh, it sucks if there's no way to actually type the { } characters.
I get it now. The memelords actually just reuse the already existing strings.
>>122419773
did you not go Linker or something? People suck Linker dick so hard
>>122419921
>He doesn't know that IMC repurposed like every archer skill to be missile.
>>122420057
I went Wiz 3 Ele 1.
>>122420038
Dunno but that's how I do it
>>122420069
>he doesn't know broom trap is strike and stake stockades are pierce
>>122420003
I'm actually lv96, waiting for parties to be fixed so I can run the dungeon.
what are the chances icoin will remain the way they are now?
>>122419776
Oblique is useful if you want to lure a non aggro monster to a trap(spiky stockade), but other than that I barely use it anymore
>>122420038
>Eh, it sucks if there's no way to actually type the { } characters.
>>122420134
Sappers have to put up with spending even more money as an Archer.
is sestas sword + arde dagger the best wep combo you can get at 75 until 120?
>>122420038
: ^ )
>>122420239
Sappers literally blow through your wallet
Good Cataphract build?
>>122420114
I'm sorry.
>>122420114
How is it compared to wiz>pyro>link>ele or wiz2>link>ele?
>>122420008
They spam it because it's the main attack skill, dumbass.
>>122416973
>I haven't played the game please rape my face
>>122420114
weird, I party with Wiz 3 Elementalist all the time, just be aggressive I guess, !!LFP, click on every public party and if somebody says need 1 more, you get in their face andkiss them
or just make your own party?
>>122420380
Quick cast is very fun. Ele skills hitting double hard with half the cast time.
But the pain of leveling up wiz 3, would not reccomend.
>>122420153
me too :(
>>122420239
It's not that bad.
I went Sapper C2 and I'm Fletcher right now, so my inventory is full of shit for skills.
The only problem is my logs for broom trap weigh 1 each, and my arrows for each of my fletcher skills weigh 1 each.
So I'm stuck with almost all of my weight being used for skills, then whatever's left goes to pots.
>>122420547
What would you recommend then?
>>122420380
Why would anyone ever go wiz2 when wiz>cryo>link>ele is an option?
>>122419340
afk farming?
can someone post laughingwhores.jpg, thighlander edition?
>>122415421
Please elaborate
>>122419762
You heard it here first folks, archers are amazing, sapper is a good AOE class
>>122420307
My man, please explain.
>>122420304
pls
>>122420386
You ever notice how it's the SPR pumping Oblique spammers that complain archers are terrible? Funny how that works.
>>122421078
>sapper is a good AOE class
Eh, it isn't bad for that, even not considering broom trap
Hows this skill build?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/kh29qvgjtb/
>>122421078
Once a minute when broom trap is up, it's great!
Meme post of the year?
So, Full Draw does NOT apply Hold against a target in PVP.
This class is officially shit at PVE and PVP.
where do i get vuvuzela
>>122421078
What a fucking retard.
Spamming oblique shot makes it hit corpses and tree root crystals.
Of course you need a good bow, you need to counter against the missile damage penalty.
Sapper is pretty decent AoE, Broom Trap is good once a minute, and Collar Bomb is good when it doesn't resist.
>>122421172
No, it's the people who think they have to pump spr to spam oblique and fuck their damage potential.
>>122414606
This. I would use 2h swords if I can find something worth a damn but they're all shit compared to 1h sword + meme daggers.
>>122420919
What else am I supposed to do? It's not like interacting would use my SP any more efficiently.
>>122421270
>that enitre second paragraph
holy shit my sides
I spam Oblique Shot on my archer and it does indeed destroy everything, even bosses. I don't see the issue. I'm not full SPR though.
Since we're archerposting, has anyone been crazy enough to go Scout C3?
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/30608/
This skill looks completely absurd. At level 1 it's similar mana cost to level 1 Oblique, has the bonus damage of level 10-11 Oblique, hits two extra targets instead of one, and instead of dealing reduced bounce damage, it's fucking doubled on both secondary targets.
>>122421590
How's lvl 5 treating you?
>>122421668
I'm level 151 and pretty good.
>>122421590
twin arrows way stronger
>get to Main Chamber
>Frozen
>Frozen
>Frozen
>Frozen
PLEASE
>>122421732
So then you know that spamming oblique shot, even between other useful skills, is still shit damage compared to every other class, right?
>>122420796
does that have an okay time leveling?
>>122421831
DOOR STUCK
>>122421907
And? Sorry that Archers can't compete with you overpowered Memelanders but nobody said we did.
>>122421831
Everything's gonna be alright, anon.:-)
>>122422002
Nah, I'm an archer too m8.
I'm just sad our class is shit.
>>122421390
reported m8. IMC going to ban you now
Can you give up the lead of your party to someone else?
Does anyone on Saule have a decent 2h lvl 75 sword they can sell me?
I'm kinda broke I can throw about 200k.
>>122422120
Yes
Any high level C3 Cryos that can comment on their leveling experience? I know ice tree and katamari ball are god tier, but are you useless until they come off CD? Does their strength make up for said CDs?
I've got Cryo locked in as my first class of choice on release, unless I find out that they fall off later.
Where do you find a collecture sword to craft the flamini sword?
>mfw i am going to waste another day not doing 130dung
is sestas sword + arde dagger the best wep combo you can get at 75 until 120?
>>122422426
You forgot your face senpai
>>122421831
I got so fed up with that that I reset my Highlander stats to all CON. Fuck you mobs, your freeze lock do nothing now with all my HP.
Does anyone know what those monster gems on Saule go for?
I have one that levels stone shot.
Any idea what I can sell it for?
>>122422468
>golden falchion + arde dagger
yes
>>122422267
I leveled with a C2 Pyrolinker and I thought I was hot shit at the start but eventually the Pyro completely and utterly destroyed my DPS at later levels. Even at C3 Cryo's can't compete with a Pyro and it sucks. I consider Cryo more of a fun class but for pure destruction then Pyro is the only way to go on Wizard.
>>122422636
whys golden falchion best at 75? not saying youre wrong i just want to understand why
>>122422468
I prefer Durandal. www.tosbase.com/database/items/103102/
I still use it sometimes at 140.
>>122422249
Nice.
/partyReqInviteMe Dmn
I'll meme up your party FOR FREE.
>>122422829
where do you get it?
So how much more will open up as we hit level cap or areas 300+? Once you hit 100 now you've seen most of the game minus rank 5/6. Being a beta and all I hope there will be a good bit more to see later on aside to
>do quests for cards
>hit an exp wall to use cards on/grind through for a reset
>do a dungeon and get a bunch of levels out of it
>repeat
>maybe a mission or two for a hat
Also do the missions not give as good of exp as dungeons? Couldn't the same 5 people do all missions possible each day and get easy leveling speed even into the walls? If you have a party all around 120-126 would it not just be like a level 126 dungeon or do they give shit experience.
>>122421242
bump
>>122422978
>most of the game
>don't even have C7
http://www.tosbase.com/game/world-map/
In-game day hours will turn soon. Are dungeons working yet?
>>122422970Auction house
Haven't seen any other for sale ever.
>>122422872
that command doesn't seem to work
i just want to play this game. how.
>>122422791
gives crit att.
also you can upgrade it later
>>122423467
Yep. I got the prompt and accepted it, though. Maybe we need to be in the same zone.
>>122417772
lad, is this for this international beta? I believe they will probably change that
>>122423580
I sent it to some other people in the area too, might need to not be in a party I guess, said I was already in a party.
>>122423505
prove that you're not brazilian and i post my spare key
>>122423590
Its been like this for some time now.
>>122423664
>might need to not be in a party I guess
That's it
>>122419570
>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/if-you-want-this-to-be-a-grinding-game/117660/
>Spawns need to be increased across the board. The game is completely barren save for a few maps, which makes them really crowded player-wise at all times.
yes
>Spawns need to be made completely random with regards to what area they spawn in. Maps are already pretty limited, you don't need to confine people to a 4x4 square area by making it so mobs only spawn there.
yes.
>There needs to be more maps. While i believe making too many channels for areas would defeat the purpose of an open world game centered around player interaction, you do need more maps. We should be able to choose from at least a few good options on where to grind. Which leads me too...
yes!
>Exp yields. They need to be largely different between monsters. You cant have a lvl 150 and a lvl 180 one giving basically the same exp. There should be maps of varying difficulties which properly reward the effort (and encourages partying!).
I noticed this too, I don't get why monster exp scales up so slowly. Why kill a harder mob that gives the same exp as something you can 2 shot?
>And so, if you do make monsters give largely different amounts of experience, you wouldn't need to add a penalty based on level difference - people would already be discouraged to grind maps much lower than they are when maps their level (or higher ones) are simply more rewarding).
Agreed.
I can't believe I'm seeing a quality post on the ToS forums.
>>122423781
but then I can't type /p without it deleting it and telling me I'm not in a party, so I don't know
>>122423873
>I can't type /p
Use doubleslash, like you do for //ping
God I feel like I'm learning Portuguese playing this game.
>>122423815
Probably from reddit. They have some solid advice on there.
>>122423994
alguem recrutando
>>122422383
>>122422383
Anyone?
>>122423815
I wonder how many people are going to disagree with this guy on the principle of sucking IMC's cock.
>>122423105
So many maps. So manyquests to kill 5 rabbits or pickup 5 stones.So many grindan spots for exp walls.
>highest map is 470 at the top right
>other 130 levels nowhere to be found
Are they going to expand onto this one map or will there be like some magical realm or demon realm for the 500+ shenanigans separate from the normal map?
>>122414656
>afk grinding
>it's actually a feature
Yeah no. Fuck off. Archers kit sucks and this skill sucks as well. This skill looks good on paper but when it's in actual use it's trash and only good on certain situations.
>>122424115
dg es bugada no funcionado
>>122424171
Market
What does more points in Item Awakening give? The simulator says that it gives more slots available, but what does that mean?
>>122424174
I'm too scared to read the thread to find out.
>>122424242
Theyre more expensive than flaminis which I cant afford.
>>122421831
Dispellers are 4k each on the market I think.
>>122424215
>portuguese
>es
not like that, at least
>>122424497
kkkkkkk
This is like the second bear cave, am I really not missing anything?
>>122424847
There's a lot of "dead ends" in zones that look like they lead places that don't exist (yet?).
Don't forget to rate, comment and subscribe
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/u4toauihjz/
how to spot a BR:
>any swordsman class
>"no many english sry"
>companion's name sounds like a soccer player
>leader of unnamed party
>constantly begging for materials
>>122423815
I feel like they should just make the EXP for monsters outside of dungeons higher, and make dungeons more for loot
>want to do daily party quest
>creating parties is broken AGAIN
>>122425061
Time to sell my party for 1m :^)
>>122424847
Check the quests here http://www.tosbase.com/game/world-map/1281/
See if you done them all
Which Archer classes are the least shit right now?
>>122425061
>party of cute girls comes by
>invites me
>accepting does nothing
>they leave
>>122424996
>character name is either their real name or some portuguese swear word
>>122425250
Wugushi
>>122425250
Wugushi?
Rogue with the meme dagger+meme crossbow?
>>122425250
Ranger C1/C3
Wugushi
Schwarz
Rogue depending on your build.
>>122425250
Wugushi. An anon also said that Reiter is top tier.
>tfw have to sit through the bore of Archer C3 to get to the interesting Archer classes
>>122425061
>daily party quest
H-how do I do this?
Where is the level 5 chest key obtained my similarly level capped 200's?
>>122424174
>>122424312
All agree with OP so far.
>>122425250
Sapper
>>122408704
obviously you go pelt for the taunt, gotta have that taunt. Then you stun everything after its taunted onto you
>Still no beta extension announcement
We aren't gonna get it are we
>>122421346
But it holds bosses
>>122425608
play on the BR server hombre ;^)
>>122425448
Once you reach Fedimian, at around level 100
>>122425608
Probably not
I hope people still aren't grinding. ayy
>>122425584
>sword pelt barb
>Taunt and seism shit
uguu
>>122425726
Ohh, the missions?
Or is there something else.
>Audio streams are not allowed
B-But I've seen WebM's posted with audio right here :^(
>>122425824
Back to reddit my lad
>>122425824
Go back to reddit or tosforum or whereever the fuck you come from.
>>122425824
Back to reddit my lad
>>122425397
>Ranger C1/C3
How can a class that looks so fun at first glance be so shit?
I just wanted to go full bowazon.
Archers in general really need the double punch treatment on many of their skills.
>>122425608
>Shout, Party and AH still broken.
What the fuck are they even doing?
>>122425986
Yeah how you gonna do a month long beta and fix no issues during the tuesday maintenances
The only "fixes" they have done are adding error messages to bugs
How do I use the @dic_ thing with item icons
>>122424285
its party member slots
L1 only solo. L2 two ppl and so
but that is totally pointless
>>122425986
Translations :^)
>>122425824
That's cripplechan (8) not kekchan (4)
>>122425986
Ranger's very good at C1 if you take it second as Barrage 5 is rather strong at that point. The damage is enough to carry you until like Tenet Garden providing that you have a decent bow or got attributes.
C2 is literally just points to spend on Barrage/Steady Aim. The situation is dire here as Time Bomb Arrow can be randomly resisted so its ineffecient and Steady Aim scales like shit considering its CD and lack of duration increase on level. Problem is this is the only way to buff your damage so you get it anyway.
C3 is where you get the C3 skills, max out Barrage/Steady Aim and dump the rest w/e.
>>122423815
Granado Espada grinding was horrible but they made up for it with a lot of mob density.
>>122426093
And fucking up the economy for one day.
>agressive enemies in big clumps that spam a homing high damage bolt that freezes
>they are guarding mobs that can somehow dodge a quest item on a 30s cooldown
Yeah I don't know about this place
>>122426093
But IPF errors are fixed now
After the masoleum, at what level do I get back on the main quest?
Shit, I'm to sick since friday to even play. FUCK!
>Looking for demon prison grind(Hoplite/Cata)
>Get invited -- immediately kicked
>Go to that party spot -- ask again
>Sorry we need ranges
Haha oh wow I never through I'd see the day.
>>122426651
Nice blog Fernando
>>122426594
103
>>122426379
i quite enjoyed GE grinding due to the RTS-ish style of controlling multiple characters and setting them up in such a way as to maximize the grind. as you said, the spawns there were plentiful and part of the fun in grinding there was setting up your team in such a way that they wouldn't be overwhelmed while afk killing stuff, or at least minimize the micro-management
Oh no I'm running out of icoins
>istora ruins
>retrieve the gold plate from under the vines
This fucking mission solo.
>>122426791
what would they need ranged classes for
>>122426834
go right of the fountain statue and talk to the girl named Wings of something for hundreds of coins you forgot about
>>122426961
affirmative action
>>122426498
>Do a quest where a bunch of enemies spawn and you need to kill them all in your own little instance
>A bunch of ranged mobs spawn and hit you for 3k each with unavoidable attacks
>>122427003
But I used all those
I was wondering what the boss for the 130 dungeon was going to be.
It was the fucking mineloader. Harpeia too, but who cares about that boss.
The mineloader is such a fucking piece of shit I hate it so goddamn much.
Why are level 75 2h swords so expensive. The fuck?
>>122427096
what the hell did you do?
>>122427003
Wait what?
>>122427096
Literally how? You're going to make IMC a ton of money.
>>122427157
memelanders, high demand
>>122427232
in Klaepedia rigth of the warp statue is a girl named Wings of something, talk to her and she'll give you a pile of coins. You might need to use keyboard mode cause I cant click on her.
>>122427096
Shit man, I still don't even know where the cash shop is
>>122427096
Nandette
>>122427162
I ran around some of the last areas when I was low level so I was reviving every few steps
>>122427162
>>122427232
Not him, but I ran out as well experimenting with different combinations of stats and skills at c6. Nothing really to do with them at that point. You stop getting achievement points later on so you dont get any more icoin chests.
>>122427315
>high demand for a shitty class of weapon that has the same reach as using your bare hands
>crit attack is just a flat damage bonus added on to a crit, not % based
Well, at least if you find decent 2handers you can sell them to poor bastards who don't know any better.
>>122427427
she gives all of your characters individual piles of coins, so check your alts too
>>122427427
>inb4 archer c2rangerc2 player
>>122397418
I doubt that's going to be the case once we get the updated material. There are tons of stuff missing.
>>122427427
did the paladin master give you the +5 stamina?
I died to bossess in tenant chaple and didnt get it, so its either the 'die a lot' or 'kill the tenant chaple world boss' that triggers it.
I find it hard to die a lot even on purpose because im just that pro
>>122427463
So are you saying I should use a 1h weapon as a highlander - barb c2 ?
>>122427194
Oh shit 200 iCoins.
>>122427518
You're close
>>122427463
>>crit attack is just a flat damage bonus added on to a crit, not % based
Why do people keep with this meme that things have to be % based to be any good? Everything in this game is just additive, all skills, everything. There are no % based formulas anywhere, thats how the games designed.
>>122427579
Yes, assuming you have a good offhander like Arde Dagger. There are no worthwhile skills that require a 2hander.
>>122427645
Archer ranger ranger? Are you that lad that I gave a bow to?
>>122427672
Thanks, I'll keep it in mind. I'll stick with my cheap 2hander til I hit 90 and try to get an arde from the dungeon.
1h weapons are way cheaper than a good 2h on saule
>>122427591
spam that shit spam
>>122427664
every skill in the game has a 1% per level dmg boost attribute. quarrel shooter has a skill with 150% atk
Why are parties still not fixed
Jesus Christ having a party with 2 or more pyromancers for the level 90 instance is fast and efficient as fuck, way better than a party of mostly swordies can do. I love it.
>>122427664
Because in this case you're making it so you only have a chance of adding that flat damage to your attack, instead of having guaranteed damage to added everything you do with every single attack when you use a stat-stick offhand. If you're just going for damage there is absolutely no reason to use a 2hander unless the 2hander provides more +extra damage than a 1hander and an offhand.
>>122427749
Yeah, np man. Just make sure you have fun using what you want to use, too.
>>122427664
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/30302/
For Cataphract, should I specialize into 2h spears or 1h spear + shield? pros and cons?
>>122421659
yeah I've been asking for a while to see if someone has a scout c3 here to tell us if it's as good as it sounds
but so far no luck
I've heard archer3/scout3 wasn't rare in korea, so it might be decent at least. My onyl problem would be getting there, scout c2 seems like a joke, and c1 isn't so hot either.
I'm gonna wait to see r7/8 classes to se eif it's viable to go scout c3 and cannoneer or something, otherwise rogue c2 seems strong as fuck with the karache dagger bonus.
I can't do it, I'm too antisocial to do demon prison grind with others, what's someplace nice that I can be alone?
>>122427737
He's a QS I believe
>>122427524
I just checked and he didn't give it to me. I have over 100
>>122428096
I did the bee farm instead
Nice and relaxing since you don't have to worry about dying
>>122427664
Because skills should scale from ATK, for example.
As a monk, if my weapon is red it means -10% damage and that's it. I can do fine fighting barehanded, and that's not ok.
I can also unequip all of my armor and I'll feel just fine.
While some poor fucks are stuggling hitting bosses for 11 damage for the same reason - retarded additive mechanics everywhere.
Crits and attributes are the only sources of normal multiplicative scailing in this game.
is krivis>sadhu
supposed to go full INT?
or do I need to get some SPR to avoid chugging pots?
>>122428096
Get in there and kiss someone. The best way to get over your fear and connect with someone is through their tongues.
>>122427737
Nah, I haven't played since you gave me that bow. That anon's a QS.
List some debuffs that can be applied to bosses
I'll start
Lethargy
Burning
>>122428526
You won't need to chug pots as a Krivis/Sadhu, go full INT.
>>122427107
Literally easymodo the both of them. Even Necroventer is harder.
>>122428526
A bit of con and spr, have around 20-30 each
You'll be fine if you have a couple pots laying around for when you are in combat for like 5m+ nonstop, and even then it'll be like 1 potion every 5m
>>122427942
swordies are strictly superior its just that they all blow their loads at the same time instead of staggering their seisms
>>122428571
>That image
FUCK OFF
>>122428690
Mineloader's laser just lags real bad for me and I never know how it's going to hit me, so it'll oneshot me a lot. Necroventer is probably more dangerous than him outside of that though.
>>122428063
Cataphract is more of a damage dealer so go for 2 handed trindent
Anyone knows what drops the magnus boots recipe?
>>122428571
Please don't post Kuuko with your gay RP you fucking asshole.
Someone give me silver on Saule and i'll give you steam games :^(
>>122427942
is pyro really that superior to cryo? I really like the cryo c3 skills, but it seems everyone sucks pyro dick.
>>122428893
It's what Kuuko would have wanted.
>>122428995
>>122428893
Let is go anon
are there any meme weapon drop from 130?
I got a maledick on my first run
Is the quest in the sanctuary where you have to protect the demon trasnformation scroll bugged? I'll always get naktis servants destroyed the scroll despite it having health left at the end of the timer
Anyone have that video of the full str korean archer c2 / ranger c3 / rogue c2 just running around killing shit?
>>122428571
Would you grind Demon Prison with me? I promise I'll kiss you lots.
>>122429197
Mostly just the legwyn armor recipes that are good from there I think
Anons are the cutest~
I want too chuu~ everybody
chu~ chu~ chu~
>>122428649
Bleeding on some bosses
Arrest def debuff (from attributes), but can be resisted
>>122416779
Just tried it and nothing but thanks anyway
This is pretty fun
>>122429674
Finally, someone says what we're all thinking.
>>122428649
Sometimes Crown works
>>122429802
>>122427357
Hello Ovolodofag
>>122429378
nvm, found it :-)
>>122421659
I'm working on scout 3, 147 right now and I'm praying to god that it isn't gimped somehow
>>122430047
Post link
>>122430101
>>122430107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sgp1Uh-wJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8bIxVvTQGg
>>122429378
>archer c2 / ranger c3 / rogue c2
You're one rank over, which is it
>>122428649
Spear Lunge's debuff works too.
>>122426906
Had trouble there too. Ask on Shout for help, people will come.
>>122429741
That zone is so comfyat least until that fucking pokemon kills somebody
>>122427942
It also destroys your fps
Is CON the only viable late game leveling build?
Wtf do Ramunele & Valorijonas do? Neither the game nor the wikis say.
>>122430541
They really need to dial down the Reflect Shield effect, shit's as bright as the sun when you are close to one another
>>122430734
Sadhus are way worse
The entire screen becomes white
>>122430734
Does reflect shield have any sort of damage reduction or is lv15 just 75 points + your spr?
>>122430541
>mfw being melee in all that and trying to understand what is happening
>>122428731
That's their inefficiency. Many of the damage dealing swordie classes aren't suited for party play and they get in the way of each other. Wizards, on the other hand, work extremely well with others, especially with other wizards.
>>122430734
They need to dial down most effects, honestly.
In parties it becomes totally impossible to see if literally anything is going on.
>>122430989
Just keep the flashy zone in the center of the screeen and hold Z
>>122428063
>>122428862
Catas don't have much of damage skills, so you need at least 1 point into Hoplite at C3 to get Stabbing, at least.
Using 2H spears means no meme dagger. Opt for this only if you get access to an Elements spear, or when using Trident or Galin Spear agaisnt bosses. You'll melt them.
>>122430880
That's actually a bug that happens when sadhus go too far away from their body
They really need to fix it
>>122430989
I know this suffering, I'm always embarressed when reflect shield wears off and I'm stabbing thin air, spear hitbox is really wonky if you cant see shit
>>122430968
The trait for it gives another 1 point per level.
It's pretty great at low levels but once enemies start doing more damage most of it just goes straight through your shield, I only have it at lv5 so I don't even bother putting it up most of the time anymore desu
>the vine is too thorny and hurt your hand
Really revelator?
>>122430198
Is that a C3 Scout?
>>122431242
Right click on the buff to cancel it on you.
>>122431324
we literally wear gloves though
>>122430256
What's the point of Steady Aim if you're gonna crit for 3.2k per hit?
Remember everyone, you lose virtually nothing by using the easily access able vendor out front of the level 90 dungeon!
Are any of you faggots involved in this bad-archer-advice session on Laima shout right now?
>>122430989
/effect when?
The fuck skill is Snatching? Isn't that a shitty Psychokino skill?
What if you could trade exp cards.
>>122431791
hunter
>>122431791
hunter
enjoy your worthless gem
>>122431765
No. I'm on a different server
>>122431242
>start STABBING
>don't see any of your damage text appear
>>122431765
How bad is it?
I can't play right now, but I like seeing the stupid shit people say so I can be disappointed.
>>122431791
>>122431854
cant you just feed the monster gem to a normal gem? instant lvl 6/7 gem
>>122431242
>>122431879
Use mouse
Do gems have diminishing returns? I have 2 green lvl 5 gems in my main weapon and I just slapped another lv5 in my arde. The gem on arde gives +29 while the gems in my spear give only +22 ea
>>122431941
yes
and its instant L5 gem
they will surely open more channels in the only grinding zone that is worth a damn at this level.... right?
>>122432036
Gems give different effects for main weapons and subweapons. Look closer at the gem's tooltip.
>>122431902
Let's just say it makes this thread look like a bastion of experience and intelligence.
>>122431704
How does Offerign Box work?
>small size flying mob map
>>122432225
Starving demon's way will always be my favorite archer map
>>122432036
enjoy that +block gem on your arde bro.
has anyone figured out an easy way to launch more than 1 client at the same time?
The current dungeon bug is not the ordinary kind we've had before. Saule is bugged too, even though their stuff works when ours does not, which means it's completely down across the board.
>>122432302
>On the way down to Kubas
>Kill a random Vubbe fighter
>Drops blood
Literally the second time this happens.
Anyone up for Kubas? I had a couple of crystals and spawned it just now.
>>122431704
>Goyims
>s
>>122432518
All I've got is a Superior Knife, such is life without the Arde Dagger.
I, what?
>>122432140
Wanna go fight some trees together? That place sucks without heals.
>>122432625
Oy vey, i dont really know hebrew
>>122432220
Its basically a vendor that vendors for 5% less than a normal vendor
>>122428976
Pyro is one of the best DPS classes in the game so yeah.
>>122432921
They're frogs with wings you don't question this shit.
>>122432407
No more IPF Errors!
what's the ice pick of tree of brazilians
They said Fletcher was buffed for kOBT but I see nothing on OPs changelogs.
I know YOU didnt give me the info, but source?
say i started a new character now, what are the chances I'll make it to c6
Sup Archer shitters. How's that shit class treating you?
>>122433252
Can you play 200 hours straight?
>>122433252
Depends, is it on Saule?
>Spend time grinding to make the goat horn hat from that chest early on yesterday
>enemy drops a goat horn hat today
>>122432921
What's the matter, never had winged frogs onna stick before?
>>122433252
on Saule like 20%
on the others, like 5% or less
going really hardcore neet and hoping they open new channels
>>122433168
They're making shit up, there's been 0 information for kOBT so far outside of the announcement.Source: I manage the pastebins in the OP.
>>122428976
>>122433010
It also helps that they don't need 3 circles to be good, meaning they can more easily fit Linker or whatever else in their builds.
>>122433295
The class is fine, but bow fucking sucks.
>>122432216
What are they saying? Go for qs c3 with full int build?
>>122433168
Ooh, can we use skills with crossbows, or is Crossfire going to have an AoE that isn't shit?
>>122433468
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck
>>122433252
If dungeons and parties actually work, and you go full NEET. You up your odds if you can kill off the other players in the prison and have an efficient grinding party.
>>122433531
The full spirit archer meme is in full effect. And you wonder why people say archer sucks.
I just unlocked C3 Pyro, what skills should I actually max? Right now I have 10 in Fireball, 10 in Flame Ground, 5 in Enchant, and another 5 in Fire Pillar. I think Flame Ground is probably a given, but I have no idea about the rest. Is Hell's Breath any good at all?
>>122433515
>The class is fine
Stop lying to yourself. Only those at the 4th rank classes do they turn useful.
>>122433698
Archer sucks even with a good build. Aside from C2 Rogue with those 2 weapons that make them not shit.
The full spirit retards just make it even worse.
>>122433323
Now i had. Apparently this magic stick lets you telepathically dominate the winged frogs.
>>122433715
get enough into enchant fire until you have 100% uptime on it since your damage tanks whenever that drops
>>122417772
>Swordie has dash and high hp scaling with good damage
>Archers have little hp. Squishy as fuck. And NO DAMAGE
Just fucking delete this class.
>>122433862
He isn't completely wrong.
Going bow means you get damage reduction on every mob that matters.
God forbid you go Fletcher, so you're forced to use a 2H bow with your skills and suffer the damage loss compared to a crossbow and some meme dagger variant.
Whaen should I start saving my exp cards?
I'm going to FUCK this character.
whats the highest dps swordsman tree currently?
So how's Necro
>>122434164
bow is still better on flying. everything else though, crossbow
>>122434381
swordsman c2 -> barb c2 -> corsair c2
>>122434424
Go Sorc instead
>>122428862
>>122431161
Thanks for the replies. It sort of seemed to me that Hoplite's too good to pass up.
I got sidetracked and came up with the following:
Sword > Pelt > Hoplite > Hoplite > Hoplite > Cataphract
With Peltasta class shield attribute and lv15 Finestra, that's 25% + 30% block. Also, lv15 Pierce jumps 4.4x flat damage for only 2.5x SP cost. For the same cooldown at all levels, this seems like an excellent investment.
This build reminded me of RO's vit/spear knights
>>122434164
Do crossbows not deal Missle damage? I know they have the attribute that ignores enemy armor value or something, but they seem to have shit damage as a whole compared to a similar bow. They seem very dependent on a strong dagger to compensate.
So is going full support just never viable? I was maxing out spirit trying to get as many buffs and heals... but I heard it's useless...
>>122434493
Block is pretty shit to be honest. You can't mitigate magic damage that way and basically everything that poses any kind of danger in the CBT right now is magical. Might be different in the full release, who knows
>>122434492I don't like the outfit
>>122434636
It's worthless. A monk/pally/sadhu can heal just as well as you while not being a sack of shit doing nothing in the back. Pick up a few damage circles and stop being a dead weight.
>>122434796
Not him, but I plan on going monk. Does cleric/priest2/krivis/monk2 work?
>>122434459
Yeah, that's true.
>>122434587
They're missile damage, and the armor penetration attribute helps a little, but not as much as you would think.
I'd have to check the numbers when I get on, but a crossbow's max damage is a little more than a 2H bow's min damage.
But, when you factor in meme dagger damage, I think a crossbow's min damage is the around the same or more than a 2H bow's max damage.
Why does Finestra's attribute use INT? Is there some kind of magic spearknight build that I'm not seeing?
>one guy giving away templeshooter cards
>might as well try it
>roll a throneweaver thinking it's a "Most legs"
>mfw it is
Now I kinda feel bad considering I don't need it. Should I sell it or just feed it to my gems?
>>122434741
But *I* like the outfit.
>>122434934
Dagger+Bow is about better on anything except flying mobs, right now.
Has anyone seen the temple shooter yet? I've been looking along with a bunch of others and it doesn't look like anyone's seen it.
>>122434960
I'd buy it. I'm over here looking for the damn thing and so far, looks like nobody has found it.
hey guys what the fuck is all the fuss about the constructor chapel
all i see is people afk autoattacking here
>>122434636
>Full support
People need to stop using this term like it's a thing in this game. There isn't even that much "support" available, just some buffs and heal which all cleric subclasses get - two if priest, and then the other meaningful support is in the Wizard tree.
>>122434636
not really, if you have someone to play with
i'd prefer to play with some cler-krivis-priest-priest-priest. for sure
but of course i don't have one :D
>>122435193
Its got good spawn rates and the events in there make grinding easy
so what are the best gems? seems like the red ones are pretty w.e
>>122435193
First floor has one of the best grinding spots in the game.
Those 4 square rooms with lanterns in them on the left side of the map each have 12 quickly respawning mobs
>>122434103
archers have range
swordsman need to get close to the enemy, risking his life
if the boss has aoe all the time swordsman can't even get close
swordsman needs to spend money on health pots, archer only needs sp pots to spam oblique
Really archer is fine, once you learn to play with his strenghts instead of comparing it to swordsman.
Maybe Corsair is a bit OP, but Reiter is OP too.
>link some VIkaras together
>knot them
>some Ranger barrages my stack
>he gets a core
>>122431704
is that a pardoner title?
>>122434891
I'd personally pick Paladin or Dievdirby over one rank of Krivis. Either way you get an okay melee attack and some support. It's that versus Zalciai/Daino 5.
>>122435498
That's completely incorrect considering most bosses have shitloads of ranged attacks and you basically never take any damage in melee range. The very vast majority of those AoEs actually start appearing slightly away from the boss, making it completely save if you just hug them. Even on my Pyro I will constantly be right up close since it's just much easier all around.
>>122435070
Pretty much. It's also why Fletcher is pretty gimpy right now.
I'm convinced there's some sort of exploit happening with the market.
I just had both my Suncus maul disappear while my other less popular items remained safe.
>>122434891
that's perfect
>>122435498
except for the fact that the game straight up punishes you for staying away from mobs lol
>>122435498
Somehow I don't think you actually play this game.
any alchemists on that can roast a gem? gabija
>>122435498
>swordsman has to walk in meme
Apart from maps with very distributed mobs, where Archers have a better time of it with Oblique Shot, this doesn't hold water.
>>122435683
I wish someone would just figure it out and publish it, so we can all abuse it which'll force it up IMC's priority list.
>>122435683
Lots of people have similar reports, and since the game has no cheat protection, it's no surprise.
The real question is, are rare equips popping back up on the market with less than max potential? That's a dead giveaway.
>hit level 75 hoplite
>only die once getting to grand spontoon recipe and craft it right after
I almost want to keep my Assegai just for the +10 dex.
>>122435683
>>122436073
MY SILVER BARS
>>122435568
I got it after upgrading this attribute (which literally does nothing) to 50. I dont feel like wasting enough money to bring it to 100
>>122436220
you got FInestra anyway, that's FREE DEX
>>122434278
>everyone wants to fuck Cawfee
>>122436197
Interesting.
When it first started I had a bunch of recipes stolen, and since you obviously can't resell those I suppose they stopped going after them which I guess explains why people feel safe putting up their high value recipes.
>>122436489
You can sell your untradable mats to the NPC, change channels or zone and then re-buy them to make them tradable again. Haven't tried it with recipes but I assume it's the same result.
>>122436707
Are they really going into OBT with this kind of shit still in the game?
Now that I figured out a way to do it I don't care about it anymore
Is 142 alright for prison or do I need to grind to grind in prison?
>>122436707
ohh nice
that just saved me like a mil
Max Thrust or Bash? Both?
>All the good grinding spots on my level have mobs with high defense and tons of HP
>Take forever to kill them and the exp is not even great
Such is life of the ranger
Save me from demon prison grind, tosg
>>122436949
Cause as much chaos as possible so IMC either stops twiddling their thumbs or the international community revolts at the state of the game.
>>122437119
What lv? I like ranger
>>122437181
Find a party
>>122436902
Again it's probably nexon pushing for the release. Hell I wouldn't mind waiting longer for a iOBT if just so they can fix all the bugs and glitches.
>Main Chamber and onwards
Holy shit no please what fucking frozen hell is this
>>122437181
you can do it
>>122434946
IMC's top-notch class balance
>>122437181
Being in there saves you from an even worse hell, you can do it anon! Just find a group to leech off of.
>>122437262
Still better then mage tower 2
>>122436261
So as a pardoner if you have enough initial money to buy shit from people who don't want to go back you can make money by doing nothing at all? I might think to make one at release just to be a pet stat feeder.
Bosses are weak, they said. Red circles trivialize everything, they said.
>>122437238
I am in a party, still so excruciatingly slow
>>122437230
130
>>122437215
If you want to do that just share a method with as many people as possible, most people have no self restraint and you'll start seeing giant puddings filling up the screen in no time.
>>122437390Get out of a partySeriously, just smoke potions and rape those lions
>>122437382
I suggest going circle 3 priest with it then.
This is coming from someone who went circle 3 krivis with it. I literally get nothing out of buff shop. It only works with buffs that require reagents
>>122437393
aspimete crossroads red tree ambulos and hook (flying cloth) and inside the main chamber on right side theres a spot where only coliflower spawn they are overkill for archer
>>122437389
oh that one.. was a pain in the ass
>>122437389
Literally no HP.
Learn to ARPG, my man.
>4% until 186
Who /almost there/ here?
>>122437389
>dying to that
just uninstall
>>122437553
2priest 1 krivis would be better for selling Daino scrolls, no? That'd be a big selling point.
Are there supposed to be quests or npcs in the Royal Mausoleums Contructor's chapel?
>>122437393
lets hope they add more flying mob on release
>>122437685
Yea, it would, if people knew what they fucking were. The only ones ive ever put up on the market are still just sitting there. They disappeared into the void during the long ass market down and i just havnet been bothered to put em back up again.
You would get more out of extra sacrement and bless
>>122437291
Please aware me on how to do this
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/?item_name=collection&search=
So senpai, how many of these have you guys found?
Ive only found the flower, tenet chappel and the three quested ones
>>122438037
Where's the flower one?I've had a Tanu Leaf for the longest time. That's the one that needs it, isn't it?
>>122438037
Shit doesn't work yo
>>122437771
there arent any in the constructor chapel
>>122438152Drag the items from your inventory onto the window.
>>122438152
Click and drag nigger
>>122438137
Yea, the quest that gives it starts at a well in the area either just before or after the tanu. Cant remember specifically which zone.
>>122437553
>get c3 priest to 118
>quit from despair
>was like 2 weeks ago
I'd think to go cleric>krivis>priestc2 or cleric>priestc2>krivis just for the buff increase. having stoneskin be eaten as I cast it really just killed my desire to play.
I don't feel like grudging through rank 5 rate just for krivis stuff and stoneksin is almost a one point wonder anyway which would work more for rank 5.
>no good support classes unlock at 5 or 6
>bea jew or see where normal enemies attacks will land
>>122438234
>>122438259
Shieeeeet
>>122437540I did that yesterday, but it only really works when you have an area for yourself. I think it was faster solo, too
>>122438285
>no good support classes unlock at 5 or 6
>rank 5
>what is pardoner
>rank6
>what is oracle
do we even play the same game anonymous?
>>122416779
This sounds so bullshit, you should be working for Jesse Ventura. You're basically just saying that people are buying and selling items, except with the added bonus of loans and debts.
First off, why would a seller not get any silver when the buyer still got deducted(all the way to negatives). There's no "real" silver here to handle here. The server managed to deduct from the buyer so it should stand that it can also give money to the seller even if its not full price. Seriously, where are all the people saying "I sold item X for 1m but only got 5k"
Second, this affects ALL items, not just certain high value ones.
Third, Arde daggers went up in price because more people are capable of using them now. I know its hard to believe for you but some people are actually just getting to lvl75 region right now.
>>122438496
Have you kissed someone yet Ms Marseilleposter
What does a Pardoner even build for stats? Str to go with your Priest autoattacking?
>>122438285
To be fair, indulgentia is decent as a support skill but ass as a damage skill. It cleanses litearally anything off of everyone. That said, the magic defense buff is lack luster since mdefense is just addititve, like normal defense.
At circle 3 priest id have blessing, sacrement, mass heal, exorcism and revive/ressurection. Everything else is trash. You could even get away with just literally building full str/dex with that priest and rely on sacrement and bless for all your damage. Pick up the cafrisun set and then watch as you two to three hit everything with just basic auto attacks and bless/sacrement. Max bless attribute for added effect
>>122416779
There is absolutely zero chance that player silver is processed on the client, so unless they are somehow managing to make the server do this, it is unlikely.
>>122438727
People have said that they used Ollydbg to bypass the authentication check.
>>122438496
>pardoner
>oracle
>good
>>122438675
As the retard that went krivis 3, with priest id suggest str/dex 2:1 or 1.5:1 to get the maximum auto attack damage. Your spirit is useless unless you're actually going for the mdef buff (its shit) or more healing on your heals (they are all % based anyway, so its pointless to stack spirit or int unless you want more mana).
Also, invest in that cafrisun set. It is steal broken over powered for auto attack classes. Literally adds a second auto attack (third with sacrement up too) to you and your bless will proc on it too.
>>122438496
Pardoner is arguably the worst class in the priests circles.
Yes, more broken than divederv.
Yes, more useless than oracle
YES, more garbage than druid
Absolutely the worst. The only thing that works on it is the scroll crafting, but thats been nerfed so hard that you literally only can craft 3 or 4 different scrolls depending on your build and they arent at all the ones you hope they are.
I wish you could just respec which classes you went for. I really want to try out Sorc and Necro after reading about them but fuck getting another character to 190+ this close to the end of CBT.
>>122434636
It's great. I partied with a c3 priest at demon trees the other night and I will be chasing that feeling from now on.
How do you kill afkers with red orbs? Just summon?
15 minutes until dungeons reset. An entire day of missed dungeon runs.
What a tragedy for our progression....
I'm planning on going Priest C2 Krivis C1 into Monk
Which would be better for leveling ease
Priest C1 ->Krivis C1->Priest C2
or
Priest C2->Krivis C1?
Would the added abilities of Krivis add much compared to the addition of Sacrament and more of that sweet, sweet Blessing damage?
>>122440082
Go priest c2 -> krivis if you must have krivis
sacrement will add more speed to your leveling than zaibus ever will
>>122440082
Priest2 > Krivis
>>122439270
>druid
>has the strongest sustainable AoE in the game
>garbage
anon droods are fine
>>122437181
someone suggested bee farm, anywhere else you can go solo?
Is there an actual difference between the Velheider and Hoglan pets or are they just reskins?
>>122437389
Got level 1 bug on this one.
>Trying Peltasta for the first time
Holy shit, I never noticed how much pantsu they showed. They make thighlanders look chaste.
>tfw when you forget that there is a 90lvl dungeon
>>122434636
The build I'm doing is full support and it's pretty fucking good.
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/uqq9t1fqwz/
If I were to do it again, I'd pick krivis first for the easier leveling. Idea is that you get up to 10k-ish health and put the rest into spr. You have deprotection zone, monstrance, zalciai and stoneskin that all scale off of spirit, zalciai and stoneskin scale particularly well with it. Deprotection/Monstrance act as a flat damage buff that will scale all the way to 600 for what I assume will be minimal damage at that point, but better than say blessing/sacrament. You get the priest utility buffs and the essential daibo so buffs aren't overwritten. And then there's zalciai providing a shit ton of crit attack (which btw, is a % based increase not a flat increase like some retard said earlier in the thread, I just went and tested with a barbarian) which will scale incredibly well into late game and zalciai also gives about 15-20% flat crit chance from reducing enemy crit resistance to 0. Then you have Stone Skin which is obnoxiously strong when you're all out spr; it gives about 50-60% chance to block with 193 spr at lvl 157. Of course that's for the whole group and it's up for 2 out of 3 pulls in a dungeon or every other big pull. Oracle is what I'll pick to finalize the build for the sake of trying it out, but if Arcane Energy goes up to 45% spirit, then it might be mandatory to go 3 in Oracle and pick other support options after that. The only other good support choices would be diev1 for the cooldown statue, krivis2 for more buff limit or monk/paladin for extra damage.
The idea is that you do little damage yourself but you provide more healing, more group damage, more group defense and more utility (through oracle) than a monk/paladin can bring. And that's assuming the monk/paladin puts some points into Spr instead of Str for the amazing scaling it gives with deprotection and monstrance.
>>122434636
Everyone can solo everywhere so fullsupports builds is just fucking stupid
>farming cafrisun for newbie
>7 shirts
>4 boots
>2 pants
>0 gloves
fuck
also i had him spawn 3 times in a row instantly on death once, is that normal?
Are the Thaum party buffs even all that good or would they just eat up precious slots?
Obviously doubling the gold/exp/drop rate with Swell is fucking amazing and makes them insanely useful, but the party buffs seem kinda weak to me.
I was thinking of doing something like Linker C2, Thaum C1, and then going Sorc and into Necro. Not sure if Earth Quake as my only real damage spell is really going to feasibly get me there though.
>>122446507
Linker is circle 3 so you sould probably rethink your plan with a Pyro/Cryo in there.
who can edit the boss spreadsheet? like half of the formulas are fucked up
Just me or are dungeons borked?
What's a good replacement for the Cafrisun armor for a C2 Priest? That elemental extra damage has been god tier.