/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

inb4 footfags

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Did someone say DaS had better netcode than DaS2?

pls no bully thread edition

all the games are fun try to be civil

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Cute...

>>122392985
>RARE GLITCH
>LAGSWITCH
Why some people refuse to admit that all the games share this issue is beyond me.

>>122392985

What the fuck did you say about DaS1 you little bitch?

System Requirements Lab is not always trustable when analysing my pc. What game does SotFS compare to in terms of needed specs?

Anybody else had freezing during cutscenes and bonfires with dsfix? Turned everything off aside from fps cap and it still happens.

>we propose game mechanics for a souls game

I want the old humanity system from 1 but with each increase you also get light radius. So you're pretty much fumbling in dark areas if you choose to stay hollow.

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>>122392446
why are you so shit?Y ou ruined the whole player base. Why do ''people'' still play ds2 instead of des/ds1/bb?

>>122392894
they are literally necromancers, they are just taller, they even have fire attacks and

>>122393087
>denying DaS's perfection
you're a das2drone

>>122393102
disgusting

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is RARE GLITCH a meme?

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STOP TALKING ABOUT DS2VSDS1 LETS TALK ABOUT SOULS WAIFUS

DS2 HAS NO WAIFUS BTW

>>122393139
Anon no, ask anyone who played DS1 and ask them what a necromancer does and they will tell you "bring dead skeletons back to life" not "have a fire attack" or whatever other nonsense, and the skeleton lords don't do that.

>>122393003
>>122393102
ban this sick filth, someone pls

>>122393312
You are disgusting.

>>122393139

you're still throwing a temper tantrum over das2? are you mentally ill?

>>122393350
>kill skeleton lord
>bring skeletons back to life

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Reposting from last thread

Anyone else having trouble with this guy? From what I've gathered people consider shit like Vendrick, Giant Lord and Smelter Demon hard. I manage to kill these guys without even getting scratched but this fucking frog makes me so mad.

If I walk in front to hit his face he swings his arms around and either takes half of my hp or drains all my stamina. I have literally no idea how to beat this guy by myself

p-pls respond

>>122393119
whats your CPU and GPU, how much RAM you got?

>>122393378
cant be any worse than sucking your own nasty ass toes, christ i think im gonna vomit

>>122393375
>not being a footfag yet

PtDE babies, everyone

>>122393464
stay at medium distance and wait until he does one of his attacks which leave him open for 2-3 swings. Repeat until he dies.

>>122393464

Literally one of the easiest bosses in the game. What the fuck is wrong with you.

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muh fina
muh bodyguards

why do people like this guy

>>122393464
literally gold pine resin + backroll
and whenever it tries to hug you roll back as much as possible

>>122393518
Bed of Chaos

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>>122393420
yes
yes

>>122393464
use a crossbow, or a bow, or a spear.

>>122393593
because he is a cool guy
and most people hate him because muh bonfire

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A reminder who's the absolutely best Lord and best boss of DaS1.

>>122393458
>bring skeletons back to life
But he doesn't he spawns new enemies that were not a part of the fight before and who disappear forever once you kill them.

Your comparison was dumb and shit, give it a up.

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>>122393139
>pc players

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>>122393328
>DS2 HAS NO WAIFUS BTW
U WOT M8

>>122393593
>why do people like this guy

because he's a real character not just some disney level shit like the things in 2 are

>>122393698
>best boss

huh

>>122393698
If ou count DLC i'd say Artorias is the best. But this scaleless nigga sure got the best lore.

>>122393698
haha he got no legs

>>122393781
>literally 6 words of dialogue
you're just as braindead as she is aren't you

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>>122393698
>best boss
>not Sif
she's literally the symbol of DaS, along with everyone's bro Arty.

>>122393593
Lautrec is the Boba Fett of Dark Souls.

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>>122393698
Gwyn is more fitting as the symbol of the game, I personally think. Still, Seath is one of the best bosses.

>want priscilla dagger
>bitch stays invisible throughout the entire fight
>kill her without realizing how much hp she has left
no dagger for me i guess, fuck this shit

>>122393781
SEEK
SEEK
LEAST
she looks good but when she opens her mouth she ruins everything

>>122393887
>sif
>she
leavee

Difference (to me) between NPCs in 1 and 2.

In 1 you're just some guy, another fucking undead trying to do shit. Nobody cares, people will help you but they won't go out of their way to do so. You just happen to cross paths or your interests overlap.

In 2 you're THE HERO. Help us chosen undead, we are a damsel in distress. If you do we're gonna be besties forever and cherish the ground you walk on.

Maybe it's just me, I've never really liked power fantasy.

>>122393868
seek seek lest

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>>122393887
>tfw you still have to kill her
>after you fucking RESCUED her
T_T fuck you Fromsoft this is TOO much. I felt bad enough for killing Quelaag, Seath, Arty, Nito and Gwyn.

>>122391950

>there isn't really a good or evil in the souls games, everything is morally ambiguous

Yeah guys, has anyone else pondered the deep moral ambiguity that the Taurus Demon and Capra Demon present? I think there's a lot of hidden emotional turmoil in their relentless attacks.

>>122394178
>In 2 you're THE HERO. Help us chosen undead, we are a damsel in distress. If you do we're gonna be besties forever and cherish the ground you walk on.
Any exampled of this?

>>122393887
>Sif
>She

uhhh what? when was this a thing?

>>122394139
>Equip Lightning Zwei +5
>Haven't agrro'd her yet, so he just wait for me to leave
>Go behind her and activate Power Within
>Hold with both hands and do the jump attack
>Tail cut with one hit
Fuck Kalameet though

>>122393806
Artotias and Kalameet are the best fights in the game imo. Manus is up there, if only for how satisfying pendanting his shit is.

>>122393868
But she has twice as much dialogue as the maiden in black.

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>>122393887
>>122394253
Why are Menas' artworks always so flawless and breathtaking?
Also, 4fags sucks massive nigger dicks.

>>122394320

Sif is a girl name.

>people who rate bosses based on their move-sets and challenge of the fight
This is the cancer killing Souls series. This is not a cuhrayzee game.

>>122394418
o

>>122394445
>rating bosses based on the lore

the selling point of dark souls is the challenge, not the story doofus

>>122394445
I rate by challeng ad lore, what is your point?

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>flying scraps of used toilet paper
>called "boss design"
sides are fucking gone

>>122394178
in ds2 people literally only live to serve you
they are like ''i'm gonna be here im majula waiting for him to come back forever i have no life anyway''

i hate ds2 npcs, they don't have their own lifes, they don't do their own things, they are bland, they are just generic merchants, all of them.

''hey my father is just there, i wonder how he ended here, but i don't want to leave this stone''
''hey my daugher is on that stone, what happened with her? ah whatever i'm going back to blackmsith''

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>>122394631
The mere appearance of this gay deer-faced asshole is just too fucking hilarious. Its design, the "fight'', the music, the environment - every fucking thing about it is so fucking saddeningly bad it's THE literal embodiment of "rushed game".

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>>122394631
could be worse desu

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gonna post some art of the best Lord.

>>122394827
I can never be upset over him because
>It's a dragon
>wait you can talk to it
>it just gave the the thing you wanted in the first place
>FUCK THAT I'LL ATTACK IT
>get rekt

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>>122394976
How about best girl in the series?

>>122394418
and Ciaran is a boy's name
Artorias was a bit confused, I think

>>122395171

We know that Ciaran is a woman though.

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>>122395139
Right here.

>>122392985
>you can block phantom hits
thats a pretty good solution

Will there be Medusa heads in ds3?
>>122395107
>not being a footfag
Feels good having this fetish more to enjoy

>>122394282
Well aren't demons just corrupted followers of the Witch of Izalith protecting the Bed of Chaos? Not much sentience or backstory there.

No idea why they're at the Asylum or Burg though.

>>122395279
So logically speaking Sif should be a boy.

>>122394636
The only game with proper npc's was DeS.
DaS1 is no better than DaS2.

>>122395354
They somehow made their way up from way down under, I assume

>>122395382

What makes you think that? She has a girl's name and it's not proved otherwise.

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>>122395139
best Goddess, best waifu, best covenant leader and best NPC overall, would serve all day everyday.

>>122393464
I´d help but I have no idea how the matchmaking works and I think I´m to high.

>>122395340
He got dead angled too.

>>122395504
>What makes you think that?
Because then both are revers and it makes sense.

Your headcanon is dumb so sush.

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>>122395515
>she'll never take a dump on your face
why even live?

>>122395456
I don't know why they would though, they aren't after humanity or souls and as far as I know don't have any corellation to the chosen undead.

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>>122392738
That's a nice Quelana.

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>>122395709
is she really the most popular girl of the Souls series?

>>122395901
nah cause they aint a girl

>>122395441
this is true desdrone, but das1 npcs are very good too, god tier compared to other rpgs, but i liked much more the des npcs, and much faster too, with the exception of the assholes blacksmiths, the first reaction to solaire of everyone is like ''wtf is this weirdo'' while it's completely different with oscar

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>>122395901
Definitely. I hope she comes back in DaS3.

>>122393087
This happened to me last night

>>122395785
Taurus is a bit high up but capra being in the lower burg isn't too far besides the hallways being a bit narrow
Asylum/stray demon is a bit weird as well, I feel like some elements of Izalith were more cobbled together from existing demons than anything

Why do people say the BSS is good? It's pretty shit and sees no use in PvP and it's damage is so low in that I find it hard to use it outside of pre-O&S NG, NG+ is completely out of the question.

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Agdayne is my favourite NPC. He treats gravekeeping like a serious business. He's like a mini Nito. He represents entropy but he's fair and accepting if you show due respect. He also wields an enormous slab of steel that deserves its own class above UGS.

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>>122395901
>the most popular girl of the Souls series
The best girl in the franchise is
1. Loyal
2. Strong
3. Self-confident
4. Imposing and beautiful
5. Devoted to her duty
Pic totally related.

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>>122395504
ciaran have man name and it's obviously female.
sif don't even sound like female.

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>>122396268
I genuinelly believe that she's the best boss in the series. I mean it.
>tfw no double bossfight with Sif/non-corrupted Arty

>>122396268
But that's Wolf Link.

>>122396268
nigga thats a dog

>>122396263
agdayne is cool even if das2's nito-related stuff was a bit convoluted

>>122396263
boring and generic

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>>122395504
>>122394418
>>122393887
>>122396268
>>122396453
btfo

>>122396274

>>122396187

In PvP the counter pokes can do 700+ damage in one hit, the one handed rolling and running attack can do surprising dead angled attacks. It has excellent range. I don't know why you would say the damage is low, the BSS has good DPS in any NG. It's also a DEX weapon so you don't need a high level quality build to use it.

>>122396268
Sif is absolute shit against Manus.

Also what's with trying to stop you from venturing into the abyss when you've already proved you can handle the heat by rescuing her in the past

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Hey, how about to pay some tribute to the best Souls bosses? Post fanart of your favorites.

>>122396187
>great moveset
>good range
>good damage
>scales highly with dex

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>>122396769

>>122396558
He shows you that the dark can be peaceful. He watches over the dead and is proud that they're dead and not hollow walking around. He's like Nashandra except not an evil cunt going out to kill the living. He will only show you the pimp hand if you disobey the rules. He's hardly generic.

Maughlin might be a little generic. Leningrast is generic. But not Agdayne.

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>>122396957

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>>122396769

>>122396668
This
>Yeah I know you´ve saved my ass and fucked up the guy that beat Artorias
>Still won´t even let you borrow this ring you need to fight the abyss again tho
>Suck it nerd

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>>122396769
>tfw people always forget about sanctuary guardian

that swipe attack animation is my favourite in the game

>>122396957
Gargs are pretty much the pinnacle of the coolest bosses in Souls games - starting from design, ending with fun and challenge they provide. Also they are insanely hot.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orSdy81oMDI&list=FLj4gbUBTqhStjl8tnGKs5lg&index=3&ab_channel=SfcSpadesRpg/Shinobu/Kai

>mfw fought this guy and won
>but I know he'd kick my ass if we fought again

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>>122396769
>>122397159

Going to buy PtD from Gamestop if I can find it used for cheap enough. What do I need to know other than prepare to die over and over again. :D

>>122397159
I always wondered if his other arm is broken or something

>>122397245
because sanctuary guardian is an annoying shit fuck asshole

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>>122396769
I'll be honest half the reason I like him so much was because of the reflective floor.
Dark Souls needs more reflective floors.

>>122396649
>not just doing a 1200 dmg hornet BS with the estoc

>>122397482

Play a good game like Demon's Souls instead.

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>>122396769
this thread needs more art drawn by god-king Menas.

>>122397482
Don't worry dying is a rare glitch that shouldn't happen often.

>>122397408
How can people take this PvP seriously when they know that the only reason they score these backstabs is because the opponent isn't actually where he appears on their screen?

>>122397245
I can't believe you are real

this boss is so shitty it hurts

>>122397579
yeah it got fucked up by manus, hence him unable to use a shield and leaving it to protect sif

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>>122397869

>>122397579
it is dummy

>>122396649
>>122396772
There are other weapons with good movesets that do even more damage. For example, this build has 14 str, 45 dex. The BSS doesn't even break 400 AR, while I could use an estoc or a katana or any other dex weapon and do better damage with a slightly better or samey moveset.

>>122397945
>How can people take this PvP
Because its all they have.

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Do we have an idea of when DaS3 is released?

2016 obviously, but when?

>>122398162
fgc rejects...

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>>122398072
Also, our hero Menas brought some epic lulz in /dsg/ simply by being what he is. I mean, driving someone to suicide while having epic fun - now that's awesome.

>>122398028
there simply cannot be boss at least slightly as shit as 4fags.

>>122398229
April for the west, March for the east.

>>122398162
>not playing Mount and Blade multiplayer on the side

>>122398028
it's not a good fight, I just like it aesthetically

>>122397945
That's why duel clubs have banned back stab fishing. :)

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>>122397408
>havelmom backstabbing and menuswapping with a sprinkling of toggle escapes
It's sad to see ds pvp devolve into this. The game was meant to be about knights and wizards swinging swords and shooting spells at each other. Where did it all go so wrong?

Business idea: 2 handing with a shield on your back prevents backstab damage

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>>122398475
>The game was meant to be about knights and wizards swinging swords and shooting spells at each other.

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Why is this fucking nigger boss so goddamn shit? Just fucking WHY? It's THAT "boss" nobody wants to replay the game because of how boring, easy and irritating this "fight" is. I think Pinwheel is a million times better.

>>122398475
>Where did it all go so wrong?
It probably started with the netcode and then just went to shit from there.

>>122398553
everyone would do it

>>122398052
>>122398079
Now which one is his actual swordarm?

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>>122398265
yeah, him and based Debug-anon sure showed this cunt. Kek. That was some real fun.

>>122398553
Nah but having the shield on your back should at least increase your defense stats a bit.

>>122398553
How about this, you take 20% more damage from hits to your back but there is not animation or anything else special.

>>122398745
seems to be pretty fucking proficient with the arm he uses it with

>>122398610
Foreskins is just a failed attempt at a filler, that's why the "fight" is so shit and the so-called "boss" itself is made to be cheesed the fuck out. Not to mention terrible music.

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>>122397945
its pretty fun actually. I was like you once spouting "oh you backstab, backstab this backstab that dishonorable waah"etc etc but after a while I stopped caring and started doing it myself and despite losing I still had fun. 1v1's with japs are intense as fuck. Even when people heal in the burg, I still have fun. It just extends the battle but not to a point where its annoying, because of how easy it is to punish.

>>122398116

The weapons fill different roles and playstyles. With the estoc you can turtle and you have to mind your spacing because you have no poisebreak. With katanas your playstyle can be very evasive and aggressive to trigger the bleed. With the BSS you'll be looking for counter hits more and making sure your timing and spacing is right.

>>122398745
I think he still uses his sword arm. Would have accentuated how much of a badass he is if he was kicking your shit with his weak one though.

>>122397408
Because Japs love playing games where you can completely dominate the other person without even letting them play.

Have you seen their fighting games? Other than SF and Tekken, every fighting game other there has a huge amount of infinites or unblockables or just a lot of stupid kusoge crap that doesn't let the other person play the game.

That's why Japs play like this.

>>122398475
they put that shit in the game. Dont hate the player hate the game.

didnt know you could instakill the Burnt Ivory King by trapping him in ice

thats great

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So how can you still be playing DaS when it has the worst "boss" in gaming history ever?

How do you 27 fags make 152 posts in an hour get a l*fe

>>122398992
>backstab this backstab that dishonorable waah
I never said it was dishonorable or anything like that. Why are you jumping to conclusions? It's not the player's fault that the PvP is trash.

>>122399219
i can just not fight the 4 kings

>>122399259
i dunno

>>122398821
But I feel like backstab fishing should be a viable tactic but not the -only- viable tactic. Fast rolling while in light armour to go for a critical strike ignoring enemy defenses with a small dagger makes sense. Ninja flipping in giant armour to smash them with an enormous slow club or 2h sword does not.

>>122399219
Cannot get the idea too. 4fucks is an extremely shit fight and the only thing you're gonna get after it is a huge disappointment. Either way, it's a shit piss-easy retarded "boss", spoiling a potentially good game. Fromsoft made a horrible mistake by not scrapping it away. And I firmly believe that people who think that 4cunts is an okay boss are legitimately mentally ill.

>>122398992
It's fun trying to counter backstabs and find new ways to counter people.

>>122399376
I think Pinwheel and Bed of Chaos complement each other in being the ultimate best bosses in DaS, officially.

Should I go Hex on NG or just focus on sorceries and do Hex NG+ and further?

>>122397408
His whole tactic relies on you to swing.
Don't do that and you're good.
I beat him by hornet stabbing him with the Stone GS and twopping him while on the ground. That dark bead to the face sure seemed to be no problem;^)

>>122399092
>That's why Japs play like this.
Also it could be that Japs play to win without any made up rules that the Western PvPbabbs resort to in order to make the game seem less trashy.

>>122399360
>ignoring enemy defenses with a small dagger makes sense
And there would be nothing stopping you from poking people to death with a fast animation low backswing weapons.

Backstabs and parries are a pretty dumb mechanic and its what >>122399092 said, for some reason they think the ultimate display of skill is making it so that the enemy can't respond to you at all, thats why attack combos and poise exist.
Backstabs already give you an inherent advantage you are behind a dude and almost no attack can reach you, parries also give at least one free hit.
there is no NEED to have spacial backstab animations but its what the dev team likes so we are stuck with it

>>122399328
I never said you said that. I said that I said that, and that I was LIKE you.

>>122399219
>shit boss ahead
why is there no such message, left by Fromsoft itself exclusively for these toilet-paper faggots?

I see a lot of Artorias and Orsntein art, but not many Gough and Ciaran. Why?

>>122399683
FromSoft was planning to remove 4cunts from the game since the beginning, but decided to leave it as an attempt at a filler - and of course it was a big mistake and failure. Get your shit together, From.

>>122399376

The fight is still memorable because of the abyss. Meanwhile a potentially cool boss like that mirror knight in 2 is rendered useless because of the crap pacing, setup, and moveset. There no lead up, the fight is less memorable even though it's much better on paper with the cool sfx and summoning thing.

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>>122399614
>That dark bead to the face sure seemed to be no problem;^)
A GOD

Did he send hatemail?

>>122398992
I'm having lots of fun with a leo ring counter build

can't do shit against fishers but any str build who tries to trade hits gets floored, even in havels

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Reminder that DaS3 will be 30fps on PC

>But DaS2 was 60
DaS2 used a different engine, or at least a heavily modified one.

DeS, DaS, Bloodborne and DaS3 uses the same engine, and all of them are 30fps.

>It'll be modded anyway, like in DaS
And we have no clue how much shit that will fuck up.
In DaS, physics and other things were tied to fps. We were just lucky that it wasn't very noticeable. Who's to say it will be the same in 3?

>i can deal with a few physics glitches anyway
Even if the glitches turns out to be minor, we don't know how Bamco will react to the mod.
Remember, they softbanned innocent people who picked up a weapon that was dropped by a hacker. How do you know they won't go full retard?

>They didn't ban people for modding DaS
They also didn't ban infinite health etc hackers. Remember, DaS was Froms first attempt at modern PC ports.

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>>122399614
>His whole tactic relies on you to swing.
>Don't do that and you're good.
But thats how I beat him?

>>122399878
>hey guys how about this mechanic
>the boss uses a player instead
>well DeS did it
>yeah but this time he summons a player as help while he is still around
>okay cool but lets leave it in NG+ only
And then most of the playerbase never saw it in action because of SM, why did you throw all these cool ideas down the drain B-team?

>>122398475

mmm that's some nice lewd art

>>122399878
shut your whore mouth 4fags-sucker.

>>122399889
he doesn't send hatemail if he loses, lol. He's had too many hours in this game to send hatemail. in fact he has darkbead and twop wog chracters.

>>122399998
>putting yourself at risk
He probably tried some fancy shit to put into his winning compilations and failed.

>>122400045
SM was such a shitty idea anyway. Twinks are there to balance out co-op babbs.

>>122399981
I honestly don't have a problem with DS3 being 30fps. I still play DaS with 30fps to this day.

i want to roll another 2 character but soul memory makes me sad

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>>122399797
>2 bosses
>2 NPC's

i dunno man you tell me

>>122400269
And then they backtracked on that so you can still TWINK!

Pretty sure the IDEA behind SM was that your equipment would also play a part in matchmaking but they went waaay too far, matchmaking based on SL only is dumb but at the same time SM is equally as dumb.

>>122400247
he tried to parry me and he almost did to be fair. I believe he killed me two other times. Also he livestreams so if you wanna watch him lose go ahead and watch

>>122399981
consoles continue to hold us back. also why the fuck do they still link the games functions to FPS?

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>>122400269
>Twinks are there to balance out co-op babbs.
just get off it

>>122400389
Why? You'll be on a fresh character so you'll be fighting a lot of noobs for a while. You'll beat them easily because you've played through the game and they haven't.

>>122400393
I think Gough counts as a boss when you aggro him. His sheer size, moveset, and room just makes him feel like one.
>aggroing Gough ever

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>>122399797
>noscopes dragons
>sells cheap homeward bones
>hand carves the best items in the game

Biggest bro in Souls history

>>122400613
im sorry

>>122400525
>also why the fuck do they still link the games functions to FPS?
Because japs, then again if you are used to doing something a certain way for all your life and then told to not do it because of people across the globe don't like it for a reason you don't understand you won't really care either.

>>122400417

it's a hard thing to balance
if you protect the newbies during NG you have to lock shit behind NG+
if you lock shit behind NG+ the hardcore players will feel frustrated by having their hands artificially tied

personally I think twinks should exist but it should be an extremely hard thing to do
something on par with getting the no bonfire/no death rings

how would one even think about implementing that? i have no idea

>>122400613
what HUD?

>>122400713
i think they know why we dont like it, but they also know that we will still buy the game anyway.

>>122400558

it's not that, i'm not even that concerned about pvp
it's just that thought in the back of my head always there telling me all the souls I get need to be used efficiently but not too efficient so I stay in range of other people
it's lame

>>122400389
You get get to straid before you even hit the 30k SM needed to buy agape ring, you can get up to level 70 and still invade people who are in no mans warf/bastille

The only real issue is needing to farm CREOs but you can just CE them in without a fear of suftbans

>>122400850
>i think they know why we dont like it, but they also know that we will still buy the game anyway.
Let's not forget these people are all pretty old when all is said and done, a lot of them might legitimately not understand what a big deal 30/60/120 fps is.

I just added my old saves to appdata/local.
Is there a chance I get softbanned doing it? You guys made me paranoid.

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>people getting mad at me because i back stab them when they try to re-buff

>>122401221

did you run out of bullets?

>>122400905
Nah you just sound like someone with absurd anxiety, SM only matters for invasions the tiers get absurdly large later down the line.
If you have issues with SM because of what you described you should have equal amounts of issues with DS1's SL 120/125 meta bullshit

>>122400525
wouldn't be a problem if gravity wasn't tied to fps in the engine. that's why jumps are harder and you take more damage, you are literally falling twice as fast.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvH5_HKRHhQ
He actually calls them professionals...

>>122401374
>you just sound like someone with absurd anxiety

you're not wrong and most likely correct about SM as well but it's that nagging feeling of not having control over it
SL120/125 is not the same because you choose every step leading up to it and whether you want to go over or not

>>122401673
>he doesnt put Dark Souls PvPer on his resume

>>122401673
Lobos is the only likeable popular player

Rest are all cringeworthy or dickheads

>be employer
>read resume
>dark souls 2
>2
>into the trash it goes

>>122399649
>no attacks can hit you

You realize you can attack behind yourself if you would just unlock you dumbass.

>>122401787
>SL120/125 is not the same because you choose every step leading up to it and whether you want to go over or not
No still exactly the same, you are either 100% optimal and take the right starting class and only levels the skills you need for your build and have it planned out from the start or you fall outside the meta range for the game.

If anything DS2 is far more forgiving, you can go like 10 levels in some cases without moving up or down a tier. Just have an agape ring on you at all times to satisfy your autism if you really want to.

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>>122400713
>Because japs
Isn't physics in Fallout 4 also tied to fps? Weird, even for Bethesda to suddenly do this when they haven't done it in games up until this point.
And iirc a Batman game also does this.

What benefits could this have to game development?

>>122402050
I feel like he's likable due to the fact he already worked for videogames before streaming, etc. so after that he doesn't try and prove his professional status within the context of the game

>>122402050
dont forget Krazy999 and Emarrel, theyre likeable but im not sure if theyre popular though

>>122402236
>What benefits could this have to game development?
Lazyness mostly, if you assume everything is tied to a constant framerate then you can just use that to measure time.
It literally exists because people are lazy and take the first and easiest path

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>mfw finally getting the Balder Side Sword after 3 hours of farming and 12+ armor set drops

>>122402160
>agape ring

Oh, I didn't even knew about this. Only played SotFS once and didn't free Straid that run. Well then.

>>122402265
Didn't he work at BioWare? I remember something about him bugtesting TOR (lel)

>>122401787
Most people don't play completely efficiently either. If you level to SL 200 completely efficiently you'll still be in the exact same pvp bracket as if you had accidentally a whole million and a half souls. At SL 200 you hit all the relevant softcaps so even someone a few million souls ahead of you will only hit for ~10 damage more than you. If you still feel anal about it you can go and get the agape ring and give yourself a low SL challenge run.

If you still have a problem then it's a psychosomatic one, not one with the game.

>>122402437

>3 hours to farm BSS.

What the fuck.

Are you sure you had max item discovery?

>>122402498
He did QA at bioware and then later quit because he made more money streaming and his 'talents weren't being fully used' or something
not sure what the deal is now

>>122402598
I did it pre-Sen's

it doesn't fit my cosplay either so it was entirely pointless

>>122402437
RNG DROPS ARE A GOOD MECHANIC.

Can we please just have it so that enemies are guaranteed drops on their Xth death but the loot is randomly selected from a table (IE a random enemy could drop his entire armor set, his weapon, shield and 5 consuables, you get a drop every second kill, if he drops a consumable then the 4th kill will give you either a part of his set, his weapon/shield or one of the remaining 4 consumables until he has ran out. Hell you can even have the entire table reset upon reaching the end making it start all over again)
But no, pure RNG loot with guaranteed drops for special enemies if we are lucky it is

>>122402715
I TOLD YOU TO USE THE SHORTSWORD

>>122402620
Fair enough if he makes more streaming. He's pretty good, insightful and dedicated to his challenge runs

Deserves the success over every other guy pumping out awful PvP videos and top 10 compilations

>>122402050
I also like Peeve but I know he's a faggot tryhard.

>>122403923
*Oroboro

>>122403923

>Peeve
>tryhard faggot

Are you serious?

>>122404660
see >>122404241

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What should I do with this build? I wanna use the vessel shield because it looks awesome, should I up my faith a bit for lightning infusion or is there no point?

>>122403923
>>122404241
oroboro transcends tryhard faggotry

we get it, you're good at that game. why not do something interesting instead of killing scrubs for 6 hours

>>122397869
but menas isnt even that good

>>122404746

Again, my question still stands.

I don't think you've ever actually seen what a real "tryhard" looks like.

>>122405208
>oroboro transcends tryhard faggotry
He's not even using the best of that build you know. the guy who created the original build actually made a twop dmb falchion build with dark bead too I think.

Is there a reason hollows are red in 1 and green in 2?

>>122405079
1 more point in agility would give you an extra iframe although 105 agi is optimal. you have no way to pierce shields currently, i'd suggest a mail breaker or an estoc though you'll have to change your armour to compensate for the weight. hunter's bb is a good choice for ranged damage. it's also generally worth getting an attunement slot for warmth. if people are going to fuck you around with healing you it's good to have a heal of your own. I don't like the vessel shield because it weighs a ton and is pretty shitty for blocking to boot. The tiny boon from the stats isn't worth having only 65% physical resistance blocking but you seem attached to it so whatever.

>>122405940
DaS 2 had a worse art direction and they wanted the hollows to look like cartoony green zombies.

>>122403064
I know nigga

could've saved so much time kek

>>122406226
Boy you sure do really really hate dark souls 2 don't you?

>>122406420
it's a well deserved hate

>>122406420
Yes.
Does that bother you anon?

>>122397245
i hate him

>>122406625
It's really not.

>>122406732
Kind of. I'd like to be able to talk about the game somewhere. /v/ is obviously out of the question. /tesg/ talks about skyrim even though skyrim sucks compared to morrowind. why do you have to try to drown out any sort of discussion with automatic shitposting?

>>122406625
in a very specific context

make a darksiders general if you want to shit on a bad dark fantasy boss-centric game all day

>>122400613
how do i let ma hud liek this

>>122407121
i mean, the bloom/ambient occlusion
i have no idea why i wrote like a retard kek

>>122407113
>Kind of. I'd like to be able to talk about the game somewhere. /v/ is obviously out of the question. /tesg/ talks about skyrim even though skyrim sucks compared to morrowind. why do you have to try to drown out any sort of discussion with automatic shitposting?
You can talk about the game all you want, that was just my opinion.

>>122407121
Try the DaS nexus. People forget DSFix isn't the only UI mod.

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>TFW Orma and Reeve Greatshields power stance is hard to use in PVP because poise a shit in Dark Souls 2.

>>122407113
>>122407116
look at the concept art for ds2. read interviews from before the game launched. it was intended to be massive. somewhere in the last months of development (when the trailers start looking like shit) they redid the game for whatever reason. i think it was more bamco pressuring dlc as both directors explicitly stated that they wanted no dlc but that's only a theory. so areas of the game were removed and introduced as dlc (all 3 queens existed in the NPC list before the dlcs were even revealed), the rest of the areas were cut and pasted together, graphics AND sound were downgraded (listen to the skeleton dragon roar in the demon at e3).
oh and they also stressed how time and ocean travel would play a big role which obviously got cut.
basically, ds2 should have wiped the floor with dark souls 1 (and any other rpg released in the past few years) but instead became a laughingstock.

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>>122407470
i am making a hud now, i wrote the post while reading other posts and it fucked everything, i was going to ask about ambient occlusion

>>122407549
in short bandai namco is edgy and ruined everything

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>>122407480
>orma and reeve
>orma = oro
>reeve = peeve

>>122407656
pretty much yeah
i honestly think the only reason ds2 gets players at all is because of how tried and done out ds1 is
even then ds2 pvp is hilariously bad, with twitchspinning and sm being things

>>122407549
still only a bad game in contrast to the first

I don't think removing content or downgrading assets was the problem anyway, the game was designed completely different from the ground up. too much emphasis on being difficult and the world being bigger, ignoring that the first game wasn't hard it just punished mistakes and failure to adapt, as well as the small but linking up world adding to the trapped atmosphere

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>>122408084
DEEPEST

LORE

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How the hell do you get over there?

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I LOVE YOU CHOSEN UNDEAD, YOU ARE THE GOD SLAYER, THE TRUE LORD OF MEN, THE KING OF KINGS.

>>122409256
Pretty sure you can make those things go up

>>122409415
I can't find the switch

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Why did they remove the light aura in 2? The scene looks like it's globally lit, there are no true dark areas.

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>played DS1 and 2 first
>be slightly disappointed about how DS2 turned out
>decide to finally go for Demon Souls
holy crap this is great. now I'm kind of even more disappointed about DS2, seeing how strong the series started with its two first installments

>>122409256
You've got to ping one of those glowing pillars to raise it higher.

>>122409484
>tfw will never experience tomb of the giants for the first time again

>>122409527

DS2 was a rushed out cash grab developed by their B team. All you can do is wait for 3 and hope it's not the same.

>>122409527
DeS is great and all but DaS improved on it in almost every way possible. I can't think of a single thing DeS did better.

>>122409484
Torch mechanic wouldn't make much sense if you just emitted light from your skin. Cute character though.

>>122409881
Atmosphere
Great weapons
Smithing

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>>122409881

The soundtrack

>>122409881
Sure but that's the thing, DeS was great and DaS managed to improve on it.

I'm just glad I get to explore new worthwhile areas while waiting for DS3. I was getting pretty frustrated with DS2.

I went back and played around 100 hours of 1 in the past month. Rolled a sorcerer for the first time and had great fun redoing all the content. Got tired after finishing NG++ and uninstalled. Today I installed SotFS thinking I'll try spells in here too. Then it hit me like a ton of bricks. This game is a grind. It looks worse, it feels worse, it is worse. From the cinematics to the movement and fight mechanics, to the lighting, level design, boss design, NPCs, covenants, items placements. Nearly everything is so much worse. It's not just jerks being elitist, it's the fucking truth.

Dark Souls 2 is pretty good desu

Did they ever patch all the framerate problems on the 360 in Das1? I'm going away for a couple of months and can't take my PC.

>>122409527
>>122409881
Demon's is my personal favorite. The atmosphere is definitely the best IMO. One thing that I actually think helped it is the archstones separating areas. That I think actually made the world feel larger, in a way. Because of the consistency within each world, there was a suggestion of a massive distance between each archstone world. What I mean by that is in Dark Souls, it could only be 30 meters away that the environment is completely different, but in Demon's Souls, to go to somewhere that was totally different, you had to go to another archstone. It's sort of a little thing but I think that helped the atmosphere a lot.
I also liked the level design a bit better. Of course it's quite enjoyable to have such a large contiguous world in Dark Souls, but it felt to me that level designers were often preoccupied with connecting areas together and for that some of the design suffered (including the thing I mentioned above). I just found Demon's Souls' worlds more interesting to explore.
One more thing I liked better, which I think is a bit of a divisive feature, is the item burden in Demon's Souls. It especially suited the Nexus/archstone structure really well. Made exploration and progression a more deliberate and careful thing, I feel.

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>>122395139
right here

das 2 is shit

>>122411182
>item burden
Needless mechanic imo. Even in the most casual of runs in Souls games you utilize a tiny portion of your inventory once you have a rough idea of your build. They could have added it to later games but it would have just been annoyance.

>>122409942
torch mechanic doesn´t make much sense anyway.
almost as if they cut that whole thing out and all that was left is a torch that only has uses two or three times in the whole game

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What is the best polearm in DaS and why is it the Dragonslayer Spear?

If I was the chosen undead I would have cut off that ladyboy's dick and mounted it in on Gwyn's forehead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXY1MzMM06c

This intro makes no sense.

>>122411208
>babyface
No thanks

>>122411923
bkh for easymode pve

dragonslayer looks cool but it's a pain to get

>>122411923

Moonlight Butterfly Horn and it isn't a polearm, it's a spear. Much like DSS is.

The reason the Horn is king is because it uses very little stamina per poke so you don't even need endurance for it.

>>122411923

Great Scythe is my waifu

+huge reach
+bleed
-edgy

>>122411923

Why do you people still pretend Demon's Spear isn't the best?

>>122411923
Why are all the meme weapons so fucking trash in DaS?
At least in DeS DBS was actually the hardest hitting STR weapon. Meanwhile DaS is ruled by generic weapons instead.

>>122412289
>worst 2h heavy attack in the game

>>122412137

>wanting terrible scaling

>>122412304
because DaS promotes the idea of generic humans killing old gods to create a new order where they will rule as kings of the dark

evening dsg. i'm on my first playthrough. Just rang Undead Parish bell and defeated the wyvern. where should I go next? knight btw

>>122412409

Haha, funny joke!

>>122412409
It's not for heavy attacking with. It's for the longest range pokes in the game.

>>122412516
go to the depths and then to shit town I guess

>>122412516
>knight btw
Back to the trash where you belong you shield loving fuck

>>122412409
>send people flying a mile away
>hitbox size of Australia during a running attack
>awkward timing to parry
>lingering hitbox

How is that R2 anything but godly?

>>122412687

Wow, rude.

>>122409527
>tfw we will never see npcs walking again
i want a des styled game, but it seems miyazaki only cares about super fast games now

>>122412516
DaS is pretty linear unless you start unlocking shortcuts IIRC so just go where the path takes you.

>>122412516
next step is lower undead burg to spend a few days dying to capra

I'M GONNA ROLL A SORCERER AS MY FIRST DS3 CHARACTER

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>122412849
fucking FAGGOT

>>122412687
shit dude. seems shields barely do anything anyways.

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Dex > Str

>>122412516
if you have the master key then your life got much easier

if you dont, head to the lower undead burg

>>122412963
>anything but Dex/Faith

>>122412849
omg

>>122412909

can't wait to invade your ass and 1 shot you will you try to to block

mwuahahahahaha

>>122412835
sounds fun

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>>122413039

i like you

>>122413021
nah I chose the Witch's Ring because it was mysterious.

What's co-op like? Or is it all dueling

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>playing 2 for anything but pvp

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>>122413068
>roll, roll, roll, backstab
gg ez kid ;)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

why are all the covenants in 2 so shit
>Way of Blue
literally nothing
>Sentinels
no full orb, sinners need 9 sin instead of 1 to be invaded, and grinding in arena to level up instead of using fidelity tokens directly/killing sinners/protecting hosts
also quite dead activity in arena
>Bells
completely optional area that people only go to in offline, or for at most a minute
also ganker hotspots with an npc in sol and full signs allowed in luna for gargs
>BoB
same as sentinels but red
>Rats
completely optional area that literally no one goes to, and summoned phantoms can immediately crystal out at no penalty
>CoC
artifical difficulty:the covenant
also the rewards are dogshit and by the time you get them, you have their better counterparts
>Dark Pilgrims
legitimately interesting concept, but worthless since resonant hexes got nerfed into the ground and you can just kill grandahl for the chime
>Sunfags
counterproductive to its own concept, sm ruins the point of being summoned
>Dragonfags
best pvp bar none, rewards are shit though

>>122413371
lol. master key is the only gift that isn't completely worthless. now you know

>>122413371

Invading others, getting invaded, helping people with bosses and areas, dueling

>>122413371
you summon someone and they help with you an area and eventually a boss

unless either you or him die

>>122413371
Co-op is very active all the way to Anor Londo. Should be able to find someone in any area if you're stuck

>>122412849
ME TOO

MY FIRST CHARACTER IN DS1 AND 2 WERE BOTH MELEE STR/DEX SWORD AND BOARD SHIT

TIME FOR A WIZARDLY CHANGE MOTHERFUCKER

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>>122409681
des was rushed and had a much smaller team and no marketing

>>122409881
it did a billion things better
>npcs
>locations
>background map
>atmosphere
>level design
>even most of the the bosses being puzzles, they are all fun to play and very different and super original
>story better explained so you want to keep playing, you don't just kill everything because you don't know why or because a snake told you
>have literally much better graphics than ds1 on ps3
>ambientation more detailed, you can feel the dedication of the devs, it's not ctrl+c and ctrl+v like ds2/lost izalith
>better and more custcenes
>there are fewer npcs, but they did more with less, because they are together and are all interesting and unique

>>122412273
-tryhard
-only flipping mask of the child black magic users use this

>>122413543
everything in ds2 is shit

>>122412409
that title belongs to the greatlord greatsword
>tfw no gwyn style lunge 2h R2

>>122413575
master key is still only really useful to grab gear from darkroot

I still go the depths route to quelaag, good gear to pick up

>>122412516
>>122413021
>>122413371
>>122413575

Don't listen to this guy. Getting the master key is not recommended on your first character. It will confuse you more than help.
Now that you rang the first bell you need to go to that locked door before the bridge with the Dragon breathing fire. If you didn't already find the key, it is on a corpse outside the church on the roof of which you fought the gargoyle (or wyvern as you call it lol)

>>122411634
I remember a few times having to drop some things so I could pick up some armor. It didn't happen much, and while it may seem stupid or pointless to think like this, I don't believe in making these little things convenient in games just for the player, I believe there's a value in some "arbitrary" realism.
To be honest, I personally don't enjoy making builds or thinking about that stuff much (at least until I've played through the game once), I enjoy the games best the first time and without too much thought toward stats. For me, the item burden, soul and world tendency, the very difficult level design of particular areas, added a particular richness to the game, because they were there to describe the world, and that world didn't feel like it "compromised itself" for the sake of the player who wanted to make a certain build, you know? But maybe not many people think like me on this...

>>122413987
>dont listen to this guy

the second reply wasnt me

>>122413987

it's not a gargoyle or a wyvern dude

it's a drake

>>122413901
I still go to depth to quelaag because I like playing the game instead of skipping most of it

>>122414167

oh so he's calling the drake a wyvern? I thought he was talking about the gargoyles since he mentioned ringing the bell after

>>122413543
>blue
Its the anti twink covenant.
>blue
see above
>bells
>WELL YOU CAN OFFLINE IT
You are really looking for shit to bitch about aren't you?
>BoB
>same as blue
I mean playing the game is too much for you? Reds don't consume items for duels and gain CREOs for wins.
>CoC
It's for farming and people who are upset over enemies running out of spawns, does exactly what its supposed to
>sunbros
Well on top of not playing the game you don't know how SM works either and why sunbros is better for it.
>dragons
muh honorable 1v1 duels.

So we can just disregard you as another retard that knows nothing about the game but feels like their opinion is somehow relevant?
Just go "DS2 IS BAD MUH LORE AND SM" from the start next time, no need to type out 30 lines of lies and nonsense.

>>122413687
>locations
>background map
>atmosphere
>level design
nigga just say the world

>>122414190
that too, though after playing through the game so many times I can get from lower undead to the swamp in 10-15 minutes

anor londo archers and catacombs are pretty much the only areas I don't auto pilot at this point

>>122413039
what's wrong with dex/faith? I needed my sunlight blade brah

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>my first DS3 run is gonna be a pure Knight in offline mode

>>122414523
Is English not your first language or something anon?

>>122414295
>the anti twink covenant
like they even exist

>tfw my budget PC build has finally begun

my RAM got here today, now i can finally play Dark Souls in 30 fps instead of 20!

>>122414648
anything but came off as "anything but that" my bad anon

>>122414554
>offline
for what purpose

>>122414668
>no twinks in DS2
Keep proving that you don't play the game and just parrot memes you heard friend.