/evn/ - Because No One Else Did It edition

>>122182126
20/10 OP

>>122185656
That's real diversity.

Quick, post smack about some other dev!

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With this, 9/24 cgs are done. God, when put like that there's still a lot to do...

>got in two new bg from artist
>they're just what i wanted down to the smallest detail

Oooohhhhh ~ !

>>122185656
I like this cut out style, but it looks weird. Maybe it's the text box?

>>122189381
You still going for the kickstarter in two week thing? If you aren't will you still be releasing the demo in two weeks anyways? Might end up giving it more exposure+fans until the actual kickstarter.

>>122192694
Did you give her a kiss for a bonus?

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Threadly reminder to NAME AND SHAME (con)artists.

>>122195891
I'm still releasing the demo, the KS will probably wait until next year because I've had several people point out that this time of the year has holidays, major game releases and even steam sales.

The upside is that you get a 'basic' demo now (the one originally meant to act as KS proof of concept, which is basically ready except for music, transitions and some minor details) and in the meantime I can put money into it to release a polished demo (representative of the final game).

>>122196091
I'm pretty sure you have to pay your artist extra if you want to kiss them

>>122197946
Damn.

Post progress.

>Implying Dischan wouldn't be able to rake in tons of money for a Cradle Song KS just on the name alone
>Implying this wouldn't have saved Dysfunctional Systems

>>122201321
Starting to do basic implementation of sprites. Puzzling over GUI. Fuck GUI.

>>122201636
No amount of money could have saved Dysfunctional Systems. Money was never the problem.

Believing that money would magically make them capable of running a business is EXACTLY what went wrong in the first place. People who should have known better enabled their prolonged death struggle by giving them more money to keep fucking up.

When you give someone a pile of money and they piss it away accomplishing nothing, what sort of insanity does it take to want to give them even more?

>>122201636

I was extremely interested in Cradle Song but there's no way I would have chipped into a Kickstarter if they really were going to gut the game of everything but two routes.

>>122201321
>>122201321
I've got a 60k build going. Only 60k more to go. Then testing.

For all his faults, AJTilley is still more professional than Dischan.

>>122204908
I don't think you can be less professional than not at all.

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>talking to artist for a while, maybe a month getting commissions
>randomly have him get on chat to discuss stuff with other team member
>he calls me a dude
>say im female, even my name is female
>he says hes female, too
>we both sorta "oh"

Welp

>>122205431
kiss

>>122205431
Don't get emotionally involved with your team members, anon.

>>122205312
AJTilley has a business plan and manages to produce games and make money.

Unfortunately.

>>122205431
i am also a female, wanna hook up?

My artist has let the blush layer run off the face and into the hair. Should I erase the overflow, or is it more moe if the blush extends outwards from the face?

>>122207053
Personally I don't like blush extending or eyebrows/eyelashes showing over the hair etc, but the majority of people won't mind or even care. It's your choice!

>>122205431
c u t e

>>122207053
There's a difference between stylistic choice and obvious mistake, if it looks like the second (and people will notice) erase it.

>>122205431
Plot for next yuri jam

Can you still call your game otome when you only have one love interest?

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>>122205431

>>122212390
You can call it otome no matter what. There's no police for this sort of thing.

Things that might cause your game to be called "not really otome"
- it's not on a phone
- the main character has a sprite
- there's any plot at all
- there's any gameplay at all
- it wasn't made in japan
- it has a female protagonist (some people REALLY don't understand what these terms mean)
- there is a female love interest
- there is a sex scene
- a love interest is unattainable

and so on. People will argue that your game is or isn't a thing based on their own weird ideas regardless. Choosing to call your game otome or not is a marketing decision. Do you want to try and attract that playerbase or not?

>>122212390

yes. "Otome" just means "female protagonist".

>>122213095
>- it has a female protagonist

why do these people even think otome means?

>>122213132
>"Otome" just means "female protagonist".

No it doesn't. https://vndb.org/v901 is not considered an otome game, and BL games often ARE.

I thought otome meant the target demographic.

>>122213406
> BL can be otome

what. No, they can't.

>>122213406
>Aliases Two tasty rods

Okay

>>122213349
Non-weebs can't keep all these funny words straight, I've seen people get yaoi and otome mixed up.

>https://vndb.org/u33893

Who is this faggot and why does he go around voting evn down?

>>122213671
Are often considered to be so, because many people use the word like >>122213643 just did - the target demographic.

While it's not a definitive source because anyone can edit it, current Wikipedia entry on BL games:

> Boys' Love (BL) games (also known as yaoi games) usually refers to otome games or H games oriented around male homosexual couples for the female market.

I'm not saying it's correct, mind you, just that many people will use it that way.

There was a time when someone was trying to get "otome yuri game" registered as a category on VNDB, to differentiate yuri games aimed at women from those aimed at men. It didn't get through, probably because that's a tricky hair to split.

>>122213945

> he gave The Sun misses the Moon a 7.

with that art the writing would have to be amazing for a 7.

>>122213945
He clearly tolerates some of them at least

>>122212390
As long as there is a sense of romance between the protagonist and the one guy.

>>122213406
That one isn't considered otome becuase it's a nukige written for a male audience in mind.

And games with a female protag, but the plot is more about the story than dating guys like Gakthun don't usually count as otome either.

>https://vndb.org/v16583/chars#chars

>that protagonist

Maybe its a good thing most of these keks do not have faces.

the next time you wonder why vn people argue so much, remember we can't even agree on definitions for widely used words.

>>122214836
Correcting people who are mistaken is different from arguing about meaning.

>>122214071
That's not saying that BL games themselves are otome games, it's saying that the term refers to otome games, and also homosex games. So rather than "BL games are considered otome," it's "Otome are considered BL."

It's still incorrect but it's not saying what you think it is.

>>122214836
see >>122214968

I got into an argument over the definition of what a ghost producer is the other day because the guy wanted to convince me (someone who worked as a ghost producer before) that everyone who doesn't get credited everywhere the song is mentioned is a ghost producer. Try imagining what a Kanye track would look like if everyone involved got their name in the title, as opposed to the album credits like they already do.

People don't always know the meaning of words and would rather argue the definition than admit they were mistaken. It's not even an EVN community exclusive thing, it's just what some perceive as "saving face".

So, am I correct in thinking that the reason why Sakevisual has had so many problems with Backstage Pass voice acting slots is that she relied on someone doing her a favor and letting her use their facilities rather than properly booking? Reading their account of things it sounds like they're trying to blame another dev for taking more time to record their lines while simultaneously saying that the only reason why they got the recording studio slots was because someone was doing them a favor.

>>122216778

I understood it that way. But it just sounds so damn dumb to put that much money into the game and then not booking properly.

>>122216778
>properly booking
From what I understand doing that would be thousands.

I have no idea why protag voices are a big deal, though. Most jap ones dont.

>>122216572
>People don't always know the meaning of words and would rather argue the definition than admit they were mistaken.
Given that, though, people who 'correct' you on the meaning of words are not always themselves right, so it can require some squaring off.

Is the DLC of Seasons of the Wolf out?

>>122217491
That'd make them the same type as the previous one, cue correction.

>>122214654
What's wrong with protagonist?

>have a hard time drawing older male characters
>end up drawing another shota by accident because too used to drawing girls
>try to age him up
>looks weird now
WHY

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>a dev badmouthed my game on a few occasions
>little does he know I have another game dev'd in secret
>its coming out soon and better than both our games combined
>short interjections into my schedule to think about how i will destroy him but in a wholesome way

This is great.

>>122219997
okay, tao

>>122220104
Why do you all hate tao sym so much? What did he do?

>>122220192
I don't hate him at all, I respect most of his work.

I suppose I could go with
>okay, lishy
instead if we need a new target.

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>>122219997
You don't think I can be knocked off my throne that easily, do you?

>>122220752
fite me irl
final destination no items

>>122219934
It depends what you mean by "weird".

You said "shota", so I assume he's short, skinny and with rounded features. A good idea is to think of all the signifiers that tell you whether someone is male or female, both for the body and face.

For the face:

- Try making the eyes a bit narrower and scale down the iris;
- Don't overstate the lips with colour or lines;
- Make the transition of the brow bone more prominent and sharper;
- Consider drawing more lines for the nose;
- Make the cheeks less protruding and shave the fat a bit;
- Depending on your style, consider making the mouth wider;
- Consider making the chin wider or a bit longer;
- Make the jaw more prominent.

For the body:
- Make the shoulder more angular and slightly wider;
- Shave some fat from the hips (particularly from where the iliac crest starts to the thigh);
- Even if you want your male character to be effeminate, consider showing more of his muscles;
- Show a bit more detail on the knuckles and other protruding bones, like the little bumps on the wrists, at the sides of the ankles, the clavicles, etc.;
- You don't need to outline the whole pectoral muscle, just a small line from the armpit and a hint of where the nipple shadow is (if shirtless) should suffice;
- Make the neck thicker and the shoulder muscles more prominent.

>>122221126
>fite me irl
>final destination no items
Fox only. We fight like real men!

>>122221172
Woah, thank you for all the advice! I'll take another stab at it when I get home, thanks m8.

but is it unethical to marry my own character

>>122223290
I love my waifus

>>122223290
Well, Hussie tried it, but it didn't work out well.

>>122223452
>waifus
>plural
Leave.

>>122223931
Does it help if they're all different variations of my ultimate omega waifu?

>>122224024
No, only one waifu you whore.

>>122224235
But you can tell how successful I am as a matriarch by the size of the harem I can support.

>>122224783
GO AWAY! BEGONE!

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I'm actually a bit surprised that no one seemed to care about this, or maybe they never knew, but speaking of Driftwood...

That was posted back in September. They're looking to do a second kickstarter, since they blew all their funds one two major things:
1. Realizing they needed drawn backgrounds to really be taken seriously, they spend a huge chunk of it on that.
2. Doubling their art expenses, because they either decided to replace their old artist or they left right after the KS.
Their demo is apparently going to be put out this Christmas.

So yeah. Moral of the story is to never trust a newbie Kickstarter (like we need another reason). The original was supposed to last the whole game, but now they want to have another JUST for Act 2.

>>122224960
All I'm getting from that image is that that guy is a huge pedophile tb h.

>>122224960

How can people be so bad with money?

>>122224960
I can't even remember what Driftwood is.

>>122224960
Forgot to mention, please note how the demo is getting pushed back because of the guy's time being split between school (understandable), personal life (understandable), and "other projects".

>>122225276
Very easily.

>>122225547
>>122224960

And he's going to have ANOTHER kickstarter, but not for driftwood, for his other project.

>>122225547
>and "other projects".

KS devs should hire a person that kicks them in the head everytime they so mich think to devoting time to 'other projects' before their crowdfunding one is done.

>>122225676
if people keep giving you free money and all you have to do is look sad about how disappointed you are that you aren't done yet, why wouldn't you keep asking for more?

>>122224960
>Visual Novel's
Kill him with fire.

>350k words
I can only imagine how boring and padded it's going to be.

I didn't know about this, I checked the project about a year ago just out of curiosity as I didn't back it: it didn't look interesting and it stank of organization from a mile away.

>>122225676
>>122225838
>>122225887
>>122226038
>>122225548
>>122225547
>>122225276
How does this guy succeed over all of the other failed kickstarters? What set his project apart for it to get funded?

>>122226286
It was one of the first VN KS's and I believe it was the first to cash in on the post-Katawa Shoujo hype and feelstrain

>>122224960
At least he largely stuck to the project for those years. Looking at you, devs who announce other projects mere months after your Kickstarter.

>>122223452
but my original waifu chara is married in the story, i couldn't do such a terrible thing to them...

>>122226981
but is she married to your analogue?

Do any of you have game dev blogs? Post pls.

>>122228826
Yes and no.

>>122228826
I will post mine if you post yours.

>>122228826
Not yet. Soon.

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>>122226286
It literally starts the same as KS, just... You know, with a gun.
So people bought into it thinking it was the new katawa shoojoo.

>>122201636
It wouldn't have, since Jeremy admitted that he lost interest in the project anyway.

Dischan didn't know how to budget. They were extremely wasteful with funds.

>>122230789
.... After posting that, i just realized he is MANUALLY "hiding" each expression. Does he not know that it will automatically hide if it has the same tag...?

>>122230918
>Does he not know that it will automatically hide if it has the same tag...?
...Huh? Is that posible?

>>122231087
.......... what
yeah, if you just have it written as, say,
"show anon happy"
you can put
"show anon sad"
right after, and it automatically hides anon happy.

this basic renpy 101

>>122230918
>>122231087
a lot of people never learned basic renpy
it doesn't help that the instructions are poorly laid out and most people stumble into 'how to do things' by accident

>>122219997
What dev was it?

>>122230918
Oh god lol. I just feel bad for the person who does that.

>>122231248
You.

>>122231194
Err...I thought it just overlapped images. Like if you hide that sad you will find out the happy face is still there.

>>122231518
No... you have to actually work in a special kind of transition to have two of the same image showing. It's harder to screw up like that than it is to not.

>>122231518
Did you do a bad job with live composite or something? Look into it. Unless you're already done this will save you a world of headache

>>122189381
The saviour of BL!

>>122229443
I don't have one senpai.

>>122230918
hahaha i am reminded that i used to display sprites like this in my older vns, it made making them incredibly tedious. i'm glad i finally learned that is an exceedingly stupid and wasteful way to code.

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>>122231919
>a special kind of transition
Not sure if that's the reason but I don't use dissolve but a custom quicker version. Because if I do as you say they just overlap(And I thought it was kinda cool because unintentionally I got some nice transition between expressions, but I thought it happened to everyone)

>>122233415

Anon, if you keep that up I'm going to believe it.

>>122234284
the sprites will overlap if you call them something like mchappy, mcsad, mcangry, but they won't overlap if you instead name it mc happy, mc sad, mc angry - they'll just replace each other
i think it has something to do with like names being considered 'one' image, or something, so if renpy sees multiple files that start 'mc' it will register them as belonging to the same... idk, group, so will replace the old 'mc' image when you show a new one

>>122234284
>>122235528
Similarly, although the compiler whines at you about it slightly, if you use tags like that you can refer to the base tag sometimes to refer to any variant.

>show mike happy with dissolve
>show mike sad with dissolve
>hide mike with dissolve

i didn't have to specify mike sad, it automatically hides all mike. saves you a little worry in case you've lost track of what sprite is currently being displayed but want to clear someone off the board.

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>>122235528
>>122236436
...It works now! Thank you for enlighten me.
>tfw I've been doing that for years
I feel good and bad at the same time, but it's inevitable. At least that will be less coding for me.

>>122237774
>years
Damn dude

>>122237774
>years
B-Better late than never!

I'm not any good with fonts, what's a good go to font for any visual novel text box? Very clear to read/not ugly/etc?

>>122239586
Liberation Sans, in my opinion, is a good one.

What's the point of making a visual novel if it's just going to turn out shitty anyways.

>>122241446
What's the point of life, anon?

Speaking of bad games, my game has an overwhelmingly 2/10 rating on vndb...But it has tens of thousands of downloads. Are people downloading it because it's a laughing stock? Unfortunately no one has sent hate mail or written a negative review, so I don't know why it's bad or why it's being downloaded when it's rated so low. How can I find out the answers?

>>122243000
I'm now trying to find games with overwhelmingly 2/10 ratings. It's tough because of the bayesian balancing. You're probably not https://vndb.org/v3834 or https://vndb.org/v7942 ....

>>122243205
You almost gave me a heart attack

>>122243000
What game is it? I can probably give you a reason why.

>>122243205
Seriously anon, if you reveal what the game is people here will tell you why truthfully. Would you rather live the rest of your life never knowing, or be told the truth? It's time to man up, senpaitachi.

>>122243000
Not exactly related but...
>"You know, I've just had my existence denied, but I've still got a smile on my face. That makes me awesome."
These quotes always get me. Have you ever saw any from a /evn/ before? I think I did once but I forgot which one.

>>122244756
senpaitachi

>last night i was thinking about what i should do if indivisible gets funded (and i hope it does!) considering a ton of my time will go into that i don’t know if i feel comfortable still getting money from patreon if i can barely work on vn stuff, like i don’t need the extra dosh if i’m working full time so i think the best thing to do would be to change it to per project for a while. i’ll still be working on rd2 when i can, i just know things are gonna slow down a ton and i don’t want to worry/feel bad about it when that happens haha

someone with ethics about funding? shokku

>>122243725
>>122244756
You sound like you'd give the harsh honesty I need, but it's an anon board so there are at least a couple people who'd be mean for fun.

>>122245141
Sorry I don't know which evn that could be, but it's a nice quote

>>122245564
Can you do a poll for your patrons?

>>122243205
I found one that has overwhelmingly 2/10 ratings and tens of thousands of downloads, but it misses the no negative reviews criteria.

The search continues.

>>122247148
I was going to say good luck 'cus there are a zillion 2/10 vns, but now that I look- it's one of the lowest rated vns of all time HAHA it's too funny to be sad

>>122247112
>You sound like you'd give the harsh honesty I need, but it's an anon board so there are at least a couple people who'd be mean for fun.

people are so paranoid, 90% of the time /evn/ doesn't give undeserved mean-spirited opinions.

>>122247978
Is it all ages or 18+?

I'm curious, who else's script is averaging at 150k or more? What's it about? You almost finished with it?

On a rate of 1-10, how bad would it be to write backwards?
IE: Having a set starting point, several middle points (branching), and then the endings set out in an outline, and then writing the endings, the middle points, and everything inbetween before finally writing the beginning?

>>122249838
whatever creative process works for you/10

>>122249964
well fuck u too m8 i need validation from anonymous strangers to know if what im doing is ok

>>122250819
>>122249838
You good man.

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Then why bother setting it in Japan? Literally why.

>>122252505
I think this is probably a case of "It seemed like a good idea in the beginning, and now we're in too deep to go back and change it."

>>122252505
She couldn't even use Google Translate?

>>122252505
Holy shit, this is worse than weebs putting random phrases in. At least they're trying, this is literally ching chong ding dong.

>>122252505
>>122252946
>>122252950
Because she's the artist? Someone else is writing it.

>>122254552
>is nonsense by me
>by me
>me
Reading comprehension.

WAKE UP

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Does it look weird to have the composition cut in half?

>>122259307
Doesn't seem weird to me DESU.

>>122254552
I've worked on a couple of projects set in Japan (not my choice) and did some art. Whenever I put Japanese in the art I made sure it was at least context-appropriate. It's not hard to Google "how to write x in japanese." I view it as another part of reference gathering.

it dead

I'm going to bed, someone look after this thread for me. Good night.

How secret can a true ending be betore it becomes not worth it? Like, is it all right to require the player to complete all the routes in a "correct" way before it unlocks?

>>122182126
Why is he looking at the player?

>>122265251
Because the reader seems to be holding a gun.

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>>122252505
absolutely_disgusting_gross_I'm_going_to_TP_your_fucking_house-tier. When I see a line in a different language in ANY medium, I expect it to mean something and it always does. This is just fucking lazy. Also I would feel like an idiot for trying to look it up. Fuck you.

>>122237774
it's ok, i did one really massive vn showing and hiding my characters manually like that, it was a huge pain. and then, afterwards, i found out doing it that way was unnecessary, and i was like 'so i wasted all that time earlier, huh...'

>>122264498
depends on how strongly you hint to people that they're not done yet

>>122264498
Depends on number of routes and whether you can make the true end, as well as the routes you gotta complete before that, sound interesting enough.
Example: Three interesting routes + true end route = it's okay to make the player complete all of them before.
Seven mediocre routes + true end route = most probably not worth it.
I remember when I played Sweet Fuse, you needed to complete only one good end to unlock the true end, I liked that solution because I could skip the boring guys and if that option wasn't there I probably wouldn't have bothered unlocking it.

>>122264498
Date Warp's true ending requires you to get most of the other ten endings first, to explain the story. By Steam achievements, about a fourth of players actually stick through to the true end.

>>122272890
>I remember when I played Sweet Fuse, you needed to complete only one good end to unlock the true end, I liked that solution because I could skip the boring guys and if that option wasn't there I probably wouldn't have bothered unlocking it.

Sweet Fuse was a nice way of doing it because you only had two play once for the true ending, but all the routes gave you pieces of the mistery nevertheless.

>>122279745
I think i have a copy of that somewhere.

>>122280637
Considering the subject matter and the protagonist it's a disappointment that the ice character isn't female.
elsanna forever

>>122280637
If you have it, can you post it somewhere? I didn't manage to download it before they pulled it.

>>122284101
Unfortunately, i dont appear to have it after all. If it makes you feel better it was esl inflicted and had maybe two backgrounds.

I have awaken.

>>122287876
Go back to bed.

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>>122288115
Mean.

>>122282021
>that pairing
my fellow African American

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>>122288305
But all the bed things happen in bed

>tfw no milfxschool girl visual novels.
Just kill me family.

>>122290285
You could, you know, make one yourself.

>>122290285
Oh damn my fetish.

>>122224960
So how can you avoid this if do a kickstarter to get good art?

I guess you can finish by your self to see what you need first then revamp it.

It's 2 pm now, how much have yall accomplished today so far?

>>122293679
Don't ask for money if you don't have a schedule you can stick to.

>>122296736

Cropped some sprites for the info screen.

GOD I just want to finish writing so I can get to drawing everything already. I hate writing, jesus fuck help me

>>122298348
No.

>>122298726
Yes.

>>122290285
The closest there is is the Takako/Runa pairing from the Sono Hanabira series. And the teacher/ student pairing from Kindred Spirits.

aj tilley, lishy, taosym...tranny, lesbians...

>>122303849
Do you have a problem with those things, anon?

>>122303849
Dont forget HRP, sekai, and JP.

>>122303849
shota? can we get some shota drama?

>>122304892
We'd need some shota games first. Other than the usual (delays & ks drama), what are your predictions for next year /evn/ ?

I think we may see some BL, it's been too quiet on that front.

If my VN got successful, would you guys hate me too?

>>122305741
I already hate you, anon.

>>122305741
Depends on if you're an asshole or not.

>>122306208
> on 4chan
> not an asshole

>>122305331
My games coming out next year. But it's going to be awful, sorry.

>>122306965
Does it have shota in it?

>>122308428
No, but it is BL.

>>122305331
>We'd need some shota games first.
It depends on how you interpret Juniper Knot's story.

>>122308730
What it is about?

>>122284515
Ah, pity. Thanks for checking, though.

>months
>still cant think of a name for my game

God damn

I have about 20 of possible ones in a doc, too

>>122305331
>I think we may see some BL, it's been too quiet on that front.
There's actually quite a number of BL games in development.

>>122310575
> not basing your whole game around a pun

>>122309938
Post apocalyptic and sorcery/possession etc. 2deep4u (but not in the good way).

Equal representation for shotacons in EVN

>>122310815
Yeah, but there's a long road between development and release.

>>122311002
True.

>>122310846
Overtale pls go.

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>>122310998

>>122312313
cops and shotas? hot.

>208 replies
>only 40 posters
>went and counted how many times I've posted myself
>36 posts here are mine
I need to get a life. Goodbye everyone, I'll see you all in a week.

>>122312979
Who will I talk to then?

>>122313113
Yourself, like I've been doing in all of the past threads.

>>122312979
>average of 5 posts a poster
Do you not understand how a conversation works? Every single time somebody posts those they confirm they're an idiot.

>>122314575
Do you not understand how this thread works? It just consists of two guys talking to themselves while 38 others post once in between the convos. Get with the program.

This is an edition too late, but why are most EVNs so dull in terms of fashion? All very plain outfits.

>>122316049
Bad artists. Also most anime artists are ugly overweight females with lesbian tendencies.

Reminder that even if no one else ever notices your VN, Chris Priestman of siliconera dot com is sure to write an article on it for his daily quota of Indie Games Articles With Funny Titles.

>>122310815
Really? 'Decent' quality and likely to come out 'soon' I can only think of BCM, ML & H&G.

>>122316624
I'm still butthurt that mine got mentioned in the comment section of one article and the only thing people had to say was "so they are not -real- monsters?"

>>122316049
You can draw those cute outfits. Then you can regret it when you have X number of CGs to fulfill.

>>122317081
What was your vn?

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>cant stop opening my fav background commission and looking at it

O L E V

>>122317181
I think we have a miscommunication. Dull outfits of plainness have the same number of CG. I suppose it might be more if I gave players the option of what they were wearing.

Hmmmm... I already put in the code for random character generation. I might put something in for random outfits now.

>>122316624
fuck it ill email him when the time comes

does he have a public email?

>>122317247

ML. It basically went like this:

> Article about ironic dating sim
> Someone asks "what's next, dating monsters?"
>ML is mentioned
> People go "but they are too pretty to be monsters/they are not real monsters".

>>122320202
AAAAH! NOT REAL MONSTERS!

>>122320202
To be fair, when somebody says monster____ they really mean MONSTER____, not totally human with a couple animal features or odd colored skin. In the context they're not wrong.

>>122320467

yeah, but given the article it kind of sounded like they were expecting an ironic game too (instead of wanting something like monstergirlquest, where it's a whole different kind of monsters but still played straight).

>>122320202
>ironic dating sim
People need to stop this shit.

>>122320048
Dull outfits of plainness are easier to draw in CGs?

The worst thing about ironic "dating sims" isn't that they're ironic but that they're not dating sims at all.

>>122322462
Here we go.

>>122323142
What? That's not a nitpick. They never actually have any sim elements.

>>122323285
Here we fuckin go again...

>looking at old writing


Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>122323785
You've lost me.

>>122323947
You don't know when to stop, do you?

>>122323803
Welcome to pain

>>122324645
Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.

>>122323285
Hatoful had minor stat-raising.

>>122330812
>fanservice game with ugly character design
Why.

>>122330972
We can't all be as good at art as you

So who is the next Dischan? And by that I mean financial failures?

>>122332315
Probably me soon.

>>122331718
I said character design.

>https://www.patreon.com/AJTDev
>page not found

?

>>122334935
Studio split, remember?
it's at /Dharker now.

>>122342956
>>122334935
>go to their patreon
>these dev must've been making games with these money
>nope, just another artist shitting out fan service art

>>122346825
Oh well. Better art and more money than I have.

>>122347345
Isn't the point of a game dev asking for money is to make more game?

>>122347501
Yeah but taking money from idiots is just how capitalism works. Can't fault them for that, even if it's morally wrong

>>122347639
How is it morally wrong to give people what they want? The point of the patreon is the art.

Have any of you ever overlooked a bad plot because you liked the characters? Or vice versa?

>>122347801
Because it's "technically" a patreon for making the VNs.

>>122347919
It's pretty clear about the whole thing being for commissioning art.

>>122347850
Not in a VN, but in other things, yes.

Typically, I'm more into characters than I am plot. You can have the most halfassed plot, but if your characters are interesting or develop despite the stupid plot, I'll probably love the thing as a whole despite its flaws.

>>122348029
"Support Dharker Studios creating NSFW Art & Visual Novels"
The other anon is mad that they're not making games, not me. But you can't deny the fact it says that right there.

>>122348080
>Each month we will be commissioning the creation of various adult artwork for our games
It's for obtaining assets, not actual devving.