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We want the sustained DPS audience edition

>What is Heroes of the Storm?
An Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides developed by Blizzard Entertainment.

>What makes Heroes of the Storm different from other already known and popular MOBAs?
Matches last 15-25 minutes, Item system replaced with Talents, focus on objectives and team fights.

>Whats New:
Cho'gall Nov. 17th
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/chogall/

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.


>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
Free Hero Rotation: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/free-hero-rotation

ToTT: Who is your usual firstpick of choice in HL?
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>pick Gazlow on blackheart bay
>roleplay a greedy jewgoblin and just hoard all the gold I can find, never giving it to the captain
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>>122114008
Where can I find the upcoming patch changes?
I must be an idiot because they don't seem to be written down anywhere but they have to be
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>>122114008
>ToTT: Who is your usual firstpick of choice in HL?

kael or leoric
fit in any team
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first for uther nerfs, rehgar takes new title as best support!
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>>122114542
same place they have been since forever, the first 2 links
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>>122114963
Fug
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>>122114963
Rehgar was always best support
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>>122116230
>Useless garbage totem instead of viable cc
>just like in wow kek
>best support
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>>122116230
yeah butt now he's even better than before now that uther got nerfed to literally the worst support in-game right now
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ded bread
ded gaem
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>play chen
>he's actually kinda fun
send help
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How do you guys deal with anxiety in this game, the only hero I can play without getting sweaty and shaking is lili
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>>122117202
Never had it but I've heard about people like you and all I have to say to you is you fucking pussy ass bitch holy shit getting anxiety about the game what a loser.
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>>122117202
just keep playing easy babby tier heroes like lili and you will be fine
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>>122117202

just realize 100% of the people that rage at you if you fuck up are retards whose opinions and feelings literally don't matter at all. also block people the moment they start being negative because they will never have anything useful to say.
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too bad heroes of the stutter has become increasingly boring to me, only hero thats worth playing is Etc, all the others are boring as shit. if only the game wasnt so bland.
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>enemy team is Chen, Arthas, Anub'arak, Sgt. Hammer, Nazeebo

HELP

>>122116793

People say he's shit tier because LOLNOHARDCC. Those people are idiots, because there is literally nobody else in the game as good at being an infuriating, body-blocking, team-shielding, unkillable piece of shit as Chen.
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>>122117202
I get almost no anxiety in this game, since I came here from Dota. The fact that I'm not locked up with 9 screaming Russians for next 45 minutes every time I go for a match really helps. If your team is bad in HotS at least you will lose fast. You'll never get a situation were your team spent last 20 minutes flinging shit at each other while enemy AM refuses to push before he farms his second rapier then he loses the rapiers and the game gets longer by another 20 minutes
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>>122117573
I think Johanna comes pretty close to that title, or even better than him.
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>>122117573
chen is actually pretty good.
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>>122117939
how do I build chen?
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>>122118072
with lots of banda benis
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>>122118072
level 1 go with regen master unless your fighting mages, then go grounding brew, level 4 take either amplified healing or quick reflexes, level 7 brewmasters balance, level 10 earth storm and fire, then either relentless or enough to share, then pressure point, then the upgraded heroic.
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>>122117714

Johanna is goddamned broken and although she's a piece of shit, she doesn't get the hostility in-game as Chen does because Chen just stands there and chugs and people hit him because they hate him for it. Also, his mobility is fucking bonkers; Johanna can stick to someone if she can catch them, but Chen can catch someone, stick to them, and make sure they can't get away at ALL. I'd rather be pursued by a Johanna than a Chen. Johanna at least goes dry after a while of dicking around if you keep ignoring her, but Chen can hound you until you die of old age.
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>>122118126
well meme'd
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>>122118231
Playing Chen when rexxar was new was hilarious. All these people who don't realize rexxar has no escape, I'd just dropkick their dicks repeatedly. Whenever I played chen, their rexxar ended with 10 deaths atleast.
It's kind of a shame that people stopped playing him
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>>122118806

i'm kind of bitter that i'm not a mozart desu
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>>122118806
>2015
>not being a mozart and achieving rank 1 in your first 20 games

fucking bronzies I swear to god
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>>122114542
>he can't use google
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>>122117202
Funny, I ONLY get sweat and shaky when I play Li Li. I just can't help myself watching that seductive little nymph trotting around teasing me. It's pretty hard playing hots with a raging boner. Thankfully the developers made it so I could just hold down Q and still be a credit to team
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>>122117528
Diablo is fun too. A diablo etc lane is also fun. Lots of kills.

Etc powerslide into overpower into shadow charge into etc knock back

Tower kills all day baby
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>>122118806
You are a really cool dude :3
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>>122119656
Its genius
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I find Brightwing really fun.

How bad is she really? Like is she "picking her outside of QM is a joke bad" or is she just "not Uther" bad?

I don't play Support often and I'm trying to branch out into that role. I have Uther, the best support and most fun support. I have Malf, who is good but boring.

Am I better of getting Rehgar or Khaz or something?

Any chance they'll buff her?
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>>122118806
My therapist told me to do something like this but it was too much pressure to think of all those questions and then have to answer them all too, I couldn't even fathom it
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>>122120007
Brightwing is pretty good desu. Make sure you soak during/before objective and teleport in when you're needed
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>>122120007
brightwing is good, then at 10 brightwing gets better with her ult, she doesn't give out big heals but can maintain your teams health levels and protect people getting mildly focused, I top heals whenever I play brightwing
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>>122120008
Use a notebook and write them down if you need.
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>>122118225
I personally do consuming flame
Amp heal (always, its affected by BrB)
Brew Bal
SeF
Relentless
Pressure Point
Elemental Conduit
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So I haven't touched this game since the Monk patch, but I kinda want to get back in. What's changed?
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"terrible sonya"

yep let's just charge in when a talent behind because johanna took falling sword, along with Righteous Smash, ROAR and Sins Exposed "it's one of the best skills" and jaina died 13 fucking times

hero damage low compared to XP/siege because I was constantly having to blow up waves in order to try and get value out of the merc camps I can clear in 5 seconds flat

of course I wasn't perfect, far from it because four of my deaths were utter fuckups but god damn does this shit drive me up the wall
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>>122120937
it's basically shit now and everything is a meme
so whatever
play if you want I guess
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>>122120248
Couldn't she be pretty strong if paired with another lower heal support? Say pair her with Tryande, that could give the supplemental healing you need and then you team is picking up a lot of disables and Tyrande's mark damage.

I guess what I really need to know is how viable she is in ranked?

I'm trying to pick up another support and I don't want to just buy LiLi because jesus Christ she's so boring I just kind of zone out 10 minutes into the match.
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>>122121046
brightwing + morales is a good combo, morales = focus heals, brightwing = keep everyone topped off
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Holy fuck Morales is clunky to play
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>>122121039
So nothing's changed, then?
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>>122121320

She really is. Every one of her abilities apart from W has responsiveness and consistency issues
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>>122121459
Dunno played her for the first time today in QM and won 2 games out of 2. She is pretty insane when you have someone like sonya in your team basically making him immortal. But holy shit she does suffer from stuns.
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>>122121414
yeah
community's gotten even worse somehow
more retards who don't know they're bad
more dumb asswipes who are mad they're stupid so they spend the whole game shitposting and playing like shit on purpose
more "lol blizzard has its finger on the pulse of young peoples culture today!!!' with hot memes
it's so fucking bad
I can't believe this game now
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>>122121928
>"lol blizzard has its finger on the pulse of young peoples culture today!!!'
he says 5 days before the release of a Warcraft 2 character into HotS
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>>122120937

Don't listen to this fucking autism:

>>122121928

Game is pretty balanced right now. Almost every hero is viable thanks to the last patch. New heroes are coming, the whole system is changing next week since they are rebuilding how stats grow. There are a shit ton of quality of life improvements and polishing thanks to that Blizzard quality.

The only thing that is trash so far is the matchmaking, but they are making a whole new one on the coming months. So yeah, that's it. New heroes, more polishing, more skins. Game is pretty fun, specially if you play with friends.
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>>122121928
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>>122122241
>Game is pretty balanced right now. Almost every hero is viable thanks to the last patch
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>>122114512
Oh god
You frikin' monster
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>>122122476

There are literally two heroes far above the curve and three far below the curve. Compare that to almost anything else out there and it's pretty damn impressive

although you're just the average shitposter who greentexts a part of a post with le laughing reaction image meme xD because you're too uncreative for anything else so why am I wasting my time with you? I probably have nothing better to do, thats why
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>>122122241
>Almost every hero is viable thanks to the last patch.

Yeah, right. That's why there are like 15 heroes that are constantly picked in HL and having all of them is considered necessary to stay competitive in HL.
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>>122122241
>Game is pretty fun, especially if you play with friends.

>tfw all your friends act like giant faggots when they play mobas
>even HotS
>ESPECIALLY HotS
>and game night with the bros ends after just one bad loss
>15 minutes of yelling
>then 15 minutes of mostly silence on vent
>then several quick "yeah I'm going to bed, seeya"
>"same, I'm done for the night"
>"later"
>and then we don't play games again for two weeks
>and then they want to play fucking Payday 2 and be even WORSE faggots to one another
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>>122123017
>Having autistic friends.
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>>122123017
How is it possible to be faggots to each other in fucking coop game? People usually don't feel that bad when losing to AI. Probably your friends are faggots deep in their soul.
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>>122122241
>>122123017
>tfw all your friends just want to play fucking League
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>>122121017
Every blogpost you make you have the highest siege and xp and shit hero dmg and takedowns


That tells me you spend most of the game killing minions while your team dies. You're shit
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>>122121017
>Sonya outdamaged by Johanna
Lol m8

Just stop trying
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>>122123348
>>122123507

Still more than vajaina
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>>122121243
That sounds like a fucking terrible combo
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>>122123571
>I'm better than a retard

Yes but only slightly
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>>122123119
They're great until they want to play video games, then they're just monsters. I don't get it. Go out for lunch, shoot the shit about work/life in general, everything's fine. Sit down to play COOPERATIVE GAMES for an hour on a Saturday and suddenly they're biting each other's heads off and blowing the fuck up.
>>122123213
I don't get it either. I don't have any bros who DON'T get mad at video games, though. They literally all sperg, instead of having fun with each other. Games are fun, plus it's the fucking future and games look amazing now. Calm down, stop being assholes for no reason, and let's have a good time.
>BUT NO
>MIKE'S SIEGE DAMAGE IS WAY BEHIND MINE SO HE'S LOSING IT FOR ALL OF US
>FUCK YOU RYAN YOU DON'T EVEN SHOW UP TO TEAMFIGHTS
>YEAH BECAUSE YOU DUMB FUCKS ARE JUST GOING TO LOSE ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS INITIATE TOO EARLY
It's hell. I'm in hell.
>>122123217
>tfw that one friend who complains all night that we're not playing League
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> trying to get some info from twitter
> https://twitter.com/DustinBrowder/with_replies
> have to click on every tweet to understand context

I suppose twitter was just never designed for Q&A-like conversations, but is there any way to view all these replies together with their respective context?
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>>122124272
nope
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Where the FUCK is Maiev?
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>>122124272
I hate that twitter became the main way for game developers to share their thoughts and answer questions. Yes I don't use twitter and I am mad.
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>there are people who actually believe that XP contribution is an important stat that should be tracked
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>>122123348

You heard it here first /hotsg/, it's better to dive into fights you can't win because you're a talent down against Kael'Thas and co. along with noticably worse players and die along with everyone else rather than notice you just lost someone instantly for completely free to the enemy and realise maybe having four people die is worse than 5.

Look, I know this is 4chan and you have a live audience, but please take five seconds to think before posting. It'll do you a world of good.

>>122123507

>charge into unwinnable fights constantly, do a load of pointless damage on stitches or whoever can be easily healed
>well I have more hero damage than you that means I'm playing better

You must be the same rank that is produced by combining tin ore and copper ore on a furnace in RuneScape. because that's the 'in' thing to say right now
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>>122124581
This is mainly for abathur shitters to measure their e-peen.
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>>122124413
>great and beloved Blizzard characters like Alarak and Rohanna will get in the game before her
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>>122124631

>maybe having four people die is worse than 5.
That should be 'having five people die is worse than 4'
>please take five seconds to think
I should practice what I preach...
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>Artanis on team
>a lanes width away from nearest teamate
>Sees Muradin hitting Merc camp
>Throws triangle of le swap through wall at Muradin
>finds himself in a 4v1
>Muradin hops right back over to slap his shit
>Stops fighting illidan and retargets Muradin
>dies
>rest of the team piles in after for a good ol' QM 4v5
>I am Uther
>hang back because this is QM Deja Vu
>Team wipes so hard that their Zagara left after she saw them all at 10% hp and started laning before they were all even dead
>Hung back a little extra so as to escape when shit inevitably went south
>Artanis "we would have won that team fight if you guys followed me in", "Uther abandoned us!"

The light may abandon no man, but I certainly will if you are that fucking stupid.
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>>122124631
If the difference in hero damage is within 10k it's probably fine but otherwise you obviously do something wrong or play a shit hero.
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>>122124406
>>122124415
I thought so.

>>122124561
I mean I understand where they're coming from, It's a good way to share small bits of information, and have short discussions and replies to fans. It's just a mess to follow that information when it's hidden 5 clicks away.
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>>122125009

He dashes forward!
He dashes back again!
He feeds!
He's Artanis, Hierarch of the Protoss!
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>>122125153
At least he is strong at 20.
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>>122124840
>alarak
Is that the edgy protons that looks like a sith lord?
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>>122125009
>>122125153
Why are Artanis players mostly retards?

>gank a jaina
>artanis comes in from behind
>think to myself "neat, he can bodyblock the shit out of her"
>he uses his fucking triangle on her, saving her from us

or alternatively
>artanis triangles himself into a retarded situation
>runs away
>he'd make it if he just kept running
>he uses his boomerang dash for no reason, effectively making him stand still for a second while his enemies catch up
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I am tired of solo queue. How do I find people to play with in this game? Every time I add someone as a friend, I am removed after playing together.

People won't even use voice chat, I feel like a breathing XP-Boost.
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>>122125572
Because triangle is a fucking shitty skill which is a pain to use. They literally needed to make it targetable like vengeful spirit's swap from dota 2. This would make the hero 10 times more viable.
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>>122125572
I see this a lot as well. Just because you have abilities doesn't mean you have to use them.

>Escape from an enemy.
>Friendly Artanis comes and triangles the enemy back into you.
>Kills you.

Good job fuck head.
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>>122125572
Every QM with Artardis you look away from him for a second and find he has rammed himself up a fucking volcanic vent half way across Africa and drank a gallon of ebola. He will shout back to you "wow, no one is with us on team fights".
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>>122125764
Don't you know? league of legends taught us that targeted skills are cancer, everything needs to be a sick skillshot
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Still waiting for Zul'jin or Vol'jin.
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>>122125970

Does anyone have that webm of Artanis on spider queen getting fucking demolished by a Muradin right at the start of the game?
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leaderboards are out. anyone here on it?
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>>122125945
>Playing as Arthas.
>Artanis uses blade dash.
>Just fires the root at where he left as he's coming back.
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>>122126071
I want both in one patch, this game needs trolls. They have a lot of really cool units, batriders too.
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>>122126071
>wanting the worst Warchief since Rend
shaking my head to be honest family
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>>122126071
Vol'Jin is the worst troll
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>>122125636
Type /join /vg/ in chat

Also I never get removed after adding someone so chances are you suck balls and no one wants to lose because they play with a retard
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Why are people crying so hard over a scoreboard change? It's unreal the things people bitch about "game is ruined forever is you show kills and assists please fire the hots team"

Wtf is the matter with these babies that play this game?
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>>122125572
>start of game noobs fighting for no reason
>enemies run away through their gate
>artanus is like I got this bros watch this sick 25 free dmg
>uses blade dash through the gate
>eats 6 tower shots and a fort shot
>dies and goes flying across the lane

Sick play
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Can Blizzard stop shoe horning in new characters now?

All these new WoW characters are all literally whos for anyone that doesn't play World of Grindcraft. Like I get it, a new game, and you want to promote it with a hero, totally makes sense.

I just feel like that amount of Diablo 3 characters is insanely excessive when Diablo 2 is the only reason anyone even gives a shit about that series.

Cho'Gall seems interesting so sure fine.

But now we'll have to sit through 5+ Overwatch characters until we get something people give a shit about. Just put in hot pants Austrailian time-waifu and be done with it.

Also please add more supports that are actually fun.
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>>122126236
I could live even with Sen'jin, Rohkan, Daakara, Zanzil, Zalazane, Torntusk.... doesn't matter. I just want a troll.
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>>122125572
I played with a great Artanis today

>Be ahead most of the game
>All enemy keeps are down, all our forts still stand
>Lose three fights, but never badly
>Still ahead, all keeps and one fort still up
>Artanis gets mad for no apparent reason, purposely suicides and then sits in spawn
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>>122124631
You're like rank 13 buddy

I've played with you on your NA "smurf" if you can call it that. You are undeniably shit. Like pants on head retarded. That's the problem with this game. It's so easy that complete retards like you think you're good and can get away with it
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>>122127027
>WoW characters are all literally whos for anyone that doesn't play World of Grindcraft.
Well, Cho'Gall was in Warcraft 2.
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>>122126739
> because they play with a retard
well I'm on 4chan, so there's that.

> /join /vg/
Tried it a few times, are there actually decent people in there? Last time I tried it, I got an Uther who thought it was a good idea to solo a Bruiser Camp at level 8.
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>>122127171

Go on, who were you then? I never clear up my friends list so you're still on there.
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>>122127027
The dryad unit was in the original dota dota 2 and in wc3. Makes sense to add her.

Cho'gall has been around sick wc2
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>>122124631
Yea because never fighting worked out so well for you lol.

>in the mind of commanderisuckdick
>hmm my keep is dying and my team is defending 5v4...
>well that fight is unwinnable I'll just kill these brusiers instead
>hmm my other keep is dying
>well that fight is unwinnable I'll just kill these minions instead
>hmm my team is raging at me for not helping
>better complain to 4chan about my freefall to rank 40
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>>122127205

Think he was talking about Greymane specifically.
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>>122127237
Nah there is only that one uther in the /vg/ channel
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Give me Troll waifu!
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>>122127237
Look at peoples profile before playing with them. If anyone asks for group that is below level 40 or sub rank 10 i don't play with them

Unless it's guccimane cuz he's a qt3.14
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>>122127713
hot
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>>122127713
Are there any female trolls in lore? Not even sure who they would add. A lot of the horde races don't really have named females.
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>>122127713
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>>122127465

>one of our DPS instantly dies anytime the enemy team is around
>we're a talent down
>our tank took a fucking retarded build
>yep this is a good condition to fully commit to a fight!
>why are we completely wiping constantly? now the enemy team gets full value out of minion waves and mercs for over 40 seconds!

Is that what you seriously believe is the better play? Have you ever even played this game?
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>>122126923
>start of game noobs fighting for no reason

There is nothing more annoying than your solo lane running around in the bushes by himself at the start of the game. Every time they do that I just sit behind my gate and zoom in on them and narrate what I imagine them thinking
>solo Raynor here gonna get some sicknasty value out of this lvl 1 bush gank
>OH SHIT THERES 3 OF THEM
>BLURRHHRGG

like what are you trying to accomplish? There is absolutely no reason to do that
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>>122127947
Your dps died constantly because you weren't being in the front line to protect her you shitcan

Post replay.
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>>122127930
>Primal Torntusk - Co-leader of the Revantusk trolls
>Vile Priestess Hexx - Ruler of the Vilebranch tribe
>High Priestess Mar'li - High Priestess to the loa, Shadra; Gurubashi representative of the Council of Elders
>Vanira - Powerful shaman of the Darkspear tribe, aided Vol'jin in retaking the Echo Isles during Zalazane's Fall
>Zen'tabra - Powerful druid of the Darkspear tribe, aided Vol'jin in retaking the Echo Isles during Zalazane's Fall
>Hydromancer Velratha - She seems to be a prominent member of the sand troll priestly order
>Hydromancer Kulratha - appears inside Zul'Farrak during the Elemental Unrest, where she is attempting to summon Kai'ju Gahz'rilla into Stormwind and Thunder Bluff

Minor characters at best.
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>Tyrael Q's into every fight without fail.
>Dies instantly.
>"Guys I don't know why we are losing?"
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>>122128292
Oh god I am laffin
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>>122128292
>I am 6 years old and I downloaded a fwee game after googling "fwee games"
>I cwick da man
>NO I DIED! No fair!
>This must have been a mistake of some kind, mommy told me I am smart! And I beat angry Birds, Minecraft and I barely even got scared at Five Nights at Freddies!
>This game is bullshit!
>Time to watch people play games and yell on youtube!
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>>122127932
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>>122128693
literally today's gamer

feels bad.
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>>122117573
Chen best hero
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>>122128508
I doubt any of those would appear they are too minor. Most likely we will just getale troll, orcs we will get aggra just because she is thrall's wife but hasn't done anything important
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>>122128456

yep, jaina dying 13 times is totally everyone else's fault...without a doubt...mmhmm...

Are you finished now or is there any other variant on the 'intentional logical fallacy' you're yet to serve up? I'm extremely bored right now.
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Who can run around the map without soaking or clearing waves and not get yelled at
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>>122129194
That sylvanas tried
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>>122129336
Nova and zera, but zera should occasionally go into an empty lane and clear minions
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>>122129194
3 warriors and 2 healers you aren't losing against that comp ever, they had no burst to take out Medic quickly.
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>>122129378
She tried so hard, but in the end it didn't even matter.
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>>122129197
>Aggra
>not Draka
Go to bed, Metzen.

If anything we'll get Garona.
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>>122128693
desu beating Angry Birds is way harder than being competent at HotS
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>>122129713
The enemy team had no damage of course the lost. Their medic died 10 times, if she can't stay alive they can't do anything
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>>122126159
Only Takada, senjinn couldn't make it since he died AFK training on his motorcycle
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>>122126159
Only Takada, senjinn couldn't make it since he died AFK training on his motorcycle
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>>122129197

>too minor.

Doesn't matter when Blizzard is ready and willing to make up new characters for the game time and time again.
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>>122130372
For races with lore and characters they won't.
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>>122130589
Unless you mean the wow team, then yeah if they make a notable female troll she might get added one day
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>>122129194
Chen worst hero.
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>>122129254
Post replay
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>>122129952
In the text files that was data mined a while ago it was aggra, thrall also has voice files for her

Also garona is only half orc
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>morales shows up to objective with no mana
>proceeds to auto attack the other team and run around
>heal beams people for a couple seconds every time she gets enough mana
holy fuck, hearth and come back you nigger, I don't know how I should tell these people politely that they're useless if they have no mana and can't heal anyone
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>>122129952
>Draka
>not Warsong Commander
literally the most relevant female orc
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>>122129952
Why would they add drake the only thing she did was give birth to tall and then died
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>>122130962
That's because he didn't build him like you are supposed to.
>Grounding brew
>Amplified Healing--
>brewmaster's Balance
>Wandering Keg
>Enough to Share
>Bolder Flavor
>Hardened Shield
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>>122131427
Not on the alternate Draenor.
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>>122131474
You can't see his talents. Stop making excuses.
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>>122131223
Don't be toxic and try to tell them how YOU think THEY should play
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>>122131672
WoD is garbage but even there she just like showed up for two events and made no impact, she wasn't even included 8n their cheesy cutscenes
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>when you do like 18K less hero damage than sonya as kael'thas because you're too much of a scaredy cat to attack much versus jaina, uther, zeratul and johanna
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>>122131474
That's a shit build 2bh familia
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>>122127027

Cho'gall was in WC2, the dryad bitch is just some generic dryad and Greymane was mentioned in a book that came out before WC3. He just never appeared until Cata.

Check your lore and quit bitching.
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>female characters
>important at all
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>>122132563
It's blizzard of course there aren't any important females
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>>122132415
That's fine just don't die take what is given don't overextend just punish them when they overextend


>>122132563
>Sylvanas
>Kerrigan
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>>122132546
>and Greymane was mentioned in a book that came out before WC3.
he was mentioned as the King of Gilneas in the manual for Warcraft 2, he was just never shown until Cata because Gilneas BUILT WALL instead of fighting the Horde with the rest of the Alliance
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>>122132751
>some undead bitch who isn't even a main storyline boss
>edgelord waifu whos soooper speshul and don't afraid of anything except Jimmy's 12 inch cock
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>>122132563
>blizzard
>not the tippest top of waifus
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>>122133161
this isn't a visual novel. go play bioware "games" if you want no gameplay and tits.
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>>122133161
They have waifus, just not important ones
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>too slow for playing without quick cast
>too casual to memorize ability ranges

is cast on release a good alternative? last time I heard about it someone mentioned problems about it.
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>>122133282
Like warcraft is all about dudes fighting each other and the occasional female giving birth or dying to make the guy mad
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>>122127027

But anon, my waifu is british.
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>>122133045
but Jimmy is literally a cvck
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>>122133778
t b h: elves > gays
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>>122133778
Just a lot less interesting
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>>122133565
I think you can't walk while targeting because right click cancels or something.
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>be support
>in beginning go into lane with illidan
>he walks away and lanes with chen leaving me with abathur
>medic solo lanes mid
>few minutes in
>team oblivious to my lane getting pushed in by 3 enemy heroes
>pinging for help
>all 3 of them are in bottom lane attacking the towers with some mercs while we're 2 levels behind
>my lane and mid are getting destroyed
>we lose
>chen: gg retard team
why does matchmaking allow multiple retards on one team, also I can't wait for morales free week to end
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>>122133705
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>>122134385
>morales free week to end
Please no. Just get a friend to take up the Morales spot on your team and bully the enemy one with Zeratul or something. Never had so much fun in this game. QM at least, HL is too shaky right now with dropping players all day long.
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>>122132751

That occured a lot, I managed to catch people and smashed E D W W Q on them and they paid the ultimate price for it
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>>122134837
Than you did your job looking at stats is pointless and doesnt reveal anything, only stat that matters is deaths keep that down and just focus on positioning yourself. When someone bitches at you for having low dmg ignore them as long as your deaths are low. As kt you'll force the enemy team to overextend to get to you just stay back and make them pay.
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>>122133705
r e p o r t e d

>>122133778
>90s version of Game of Thrones
>being this newfag
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>>122135257
>>122135480
Is there a point in you showing us these names? Do you honestly assume any of us will care? Do you think you're doing us a service by showing us two random names out of thousands?

I'll never understand how people get so mad they have to post names here. All you do is show us all
>hey, I'm REALLY mad! I'm blaming these people for it!
Nobody knows if it's true or if you're just a butthurt shitter or what

Please consider this before you post the next time
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>the only dps on your team is retarded
>he has lower hero damage than the support
>he has 3x more deaths than everyone else
jus kill me now
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>be a HL team consisting of Uther/Kael/Muradin/Arthas
>last guy is hovering over Jaina
>nothing could go wrong right?
>Jaina gets taken by enemy team
>He picks Tychus instead
>lose
wwwwooooowwwww I was blocking I lost and there was nothing I could do broken game mechanics
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>LiLi takes water dragon.

Why are all Li Li players shitters?
>>
During the day my teams are friendly, below average players trying their best. At night get stuck with idiots who BM the entire match.

Am I just having a weird couple of days? I thought night folks were supposed to be the best team mates
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>>122137590
I always take water dragon if my team is beyond retarded
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>>122137609
the kids are home from school
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>>122133778

Stupid shit like this makes me realize how fucking dumb are "gamers" in general.

I fucking bet that 99% of the people that have ever played a GTA have NEVER seen a single Godfather movie, much less read a single book about ANYTHING. The poor, awful comparison idiots do these days is just... too much. It makes me lose all hope.
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>>122137590
>She then doesn't even take Kung Fu Hustle.

What the fuck?
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>>122137887
Yhea I would avoid these times because of kids but so far I've had level headed people just joking around and having fun.

Maybe it's exam times or some shit?
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>>122137590
Sometimes you just have to

If there's a lot of stuns on the enemy team and your team either can't peel for you or won't peel for you? Get water dragon, it's better than getting a combined 5 seconds of jugs throughout the entire game
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>>122132546
So you are supporting exactly what I said?

That dryad is most known for being some whatever non-iconic unit and Grey-mane was "mentioned" in one of the bagillion shitty novelas fantasy companies churn out every month and Cho'gall is fine?

I'm confused. I feel like you are supporting my point but their a turd in your microwave or something.
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>>122138376
There were no stuns. She took no healing talent and then bragged about her damage as the core was dying. Medic on the other team tripled her healing.
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>>122138456
>Still won because enemy team has a medic
Adventure!!!!
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>>122138440

>specifically says to stop shoehorning in "new" characters

>two are those characters aren't new and the other is just an amalgamation of dryads in general

>"So you're supporting my argument?"

Have you been tested for autism? I suggest you look into it.
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>>122138440
>stop shoehorning in new characters
>Genn Greymane first introduced in the Warcraft 2 manual
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>>122138638
No. We lost. They destroyed us.
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>>122138440
The dryad was a pretty iconic nelf unit that has appeared in the original dota as well as dota 2. The only difference now is she has a name.

Greymane was the leader of Gilneas since wc2, cho'gall has been important since wc2 as well. None were just from the mmo, and you would know them from the rts, maybe not grey if you didn't read the wc2 manual or the book between 2 and 3
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chat is dead
get the fuck in already
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>play between 4 and 10pm
>retards every game
are children really that bad
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>Hammer on my team
>Nazeebo on enemy team
>Hammer somehow gets trapped in every single wall he puts up and dies every single time
10/10
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Had a really good game against strong players. Haven't felt this good in awhile.
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>>122142742
>Still playing Vikings.

Vikings are kill Takada. Time to learn someone else.
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>uther takes blessed champion and gathering radiance

you cannot make this shit up
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>takedowns were added so that we don't encourage people to save large cooldown for killing blows
>proceed to add kill/assist separation back
This is fucking retarded.
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THE ONLY CONSTANT IS YOU
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>>122143381
Cry more you fucking loser. KDA should have been in from the start. Enough bitching about this, takedowns were a shitty and meaningless stat and it doesn't prevent "toxic" behavior anyways.
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>>122143518
t. LoL shitter
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>>122142971
Were they nerfed?
>>
The new map is so bad.
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>>122143465
Alright I'll bite......
What's wrong with abathur on mines?
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>>122143465

I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>122144797

Nothing if he isn't one of those retarded Abathurs who tries to go into a lane and soak on the first golem instead of helping the team.

For some reason a lot of Abathurs don't understand that whoever gets the first golem wins most of the time so they go soak and it's not like battlefield or shire where you can lose every immortal/knight then push to the core late-game with the first one you get.
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>>122145215
Just play more.
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>>122144302
And increased death timers early game.
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>>122145215

what does that translate into in game rank?
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>>122144797

Nothing wrong with him. We were initially complaining because our last pick instalocked Sonya and not a healer. Turns out Sonya was the better choice GEE COMMANDERITF WHY WOULDN'T THE STRONGEST HERO IN THE GAME BE THE BETTER CHOICE YOU RETARD

>>122145348

we lost the first golem 25-75 but were over a level ahead, put it this way, we had
>zagara (very strong early)
>jaina (strong early)
>sonya (absolutely cockbollocking insane from 10-12 and strong early anyway)
versus
>morales (UTTER SHIT before 10)
>artanis (4v5 until he's 16)
>a terribad zeratul

Granted being limited to rapid incubation for the only heals going outside of B and well meant I had to pussy out a bit more than I'd have liked
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>>122145741

Those "pros" will enjoy success for a few years and make a lot of money, probably skipping school or some shit then the well will dry up and they'll have fuckall.

Success stories in pro esports are a rarity, and even after their time is over they often go on to become like coaches or poker players to keep the cash going.

Just like car dealerships are filled with ex-NFL/NBA players, burger joints and grocery stores are littered with ex-sports players.

The ones who don't take it super serious and are aware it's very unlikely to last forever so they get an education or at least make connections are the ones who do well afterward.

Which isn't many of them desu.
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>>122145741
Are you playing strong soloq heroes?
Are you getting good fps and latency?
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>>122142742
How does that zeratul build work? I'm thinking of trying something new
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>Tychus, Medic, Khaz, Aba and Sylvanas.

Vs

>Illidan, Zag, Medic, Nova, Kael.

GG matchmaking.
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>>122125636
>People won't even use voice chat

Fuck off with voice chat bullshit
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>>122146964
Damn Chen's lost some weight
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>>122147017
>Not taking Wormhole.

It's shit.
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>>122145884
link your hotslogs profile

i used to be a 2.5k shitter now I'm a 2.9k shitter soon to be 3k not-shitter
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>>122147291
etc and uther are probably bad choices at 2.5k
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>>122147418
Uther is never a bad choice.
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>uther
>good
ahaha, lmaoing so hard right now
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>>122147291
Looks like you need more Chen in your life.
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>>122147582
he has a sub 50% winrate
the light abandons most men
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>>122147592
That's not fair, you had Chen on your team so obviously you were going to win.
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>>122138440
>wahh why are they adding warcraft characters? I don't like warcraft!
Guess what, I feel the same about starcraft characters. It's normal to not give a shit about a certain franchise, but why would you insist your viewpoint is unbiased if you already stated that it is biased?
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>>122147017
he fucked up not taking shadow assualt
bitch has 3 stuns and still goes crutch prison vs. a tire fire comp
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>>122136000
Look at this post commanderisuckdick
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>>122147218
It's a different play style. You just need to position differently
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>pick muradin
>go with a thunderclap-avatar build
>feel useless as fuck all game, I'm just an unkillable attack slow dispenser
>team is happy with me if we win, never mentions me in a bad way if we lose

>pick muradin
>go with a build that can 100-0 heroes using haymaker and rewind
>feel useful, getting kills, getting their squishies killed at no risk and turning engages into 4v5 from the start
>team claims they carried me if we win, say "lost because of haymaker mura" if we lose

What is it about fun builds that make people so mad? I don't get it. Do they just look at talents, find something out of the norm, and blame that person for all shortcomings?
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>>122147753
And yet he's getting nerfed because he's the best healer in the game.
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>>122148934
at premade 5man world championship level

not at 2.5k mmr soloq

pretty big difference there
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>>122149451
He's the best in the game at every level.
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>>122149614
ok
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>>122149693
>67,000 games played.

There is a reason for that.
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>>122149748
too bad wins were the minority
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>>122149897
numbers don't mean anything. As long as you believe you're right, the Light will protect you
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>>122149897
His greatness attracts everyone. He can't help it.
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If you nignogs had to pick one hero to play against Muradin with (other than Leoric), who would it be?
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>>122150865
Kerrigan, trust me on this one
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>>122150865
Falstado Gustado. Big man isn't so big when he's on the other side of the map.
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>>122150865
no idea how Li Li's are beating him, but I chose zagara
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>>122150865
tyrande
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I have 12k and my mind says get a couple heroes but my balls say get the lost Vikings
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>play game on spider tomb
>jaina lanes bot against nazeebo
>dies solo to nazeebo once
>"gosh" "must be" "nice" "to have" "a team"
>nobody reacts because the best way to deal with whiny kiddies is to ignore them
>keep an eye on her
>dies solo to nazeebo, technically it was a gank but the other guy didn't even have to zone her, she just died to the nazeebo
>"ok you're all muted"
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>>122151323
probably wait for scaling changes
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>>122147418

>uther
>bad
>ever

i want lili to leave
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>>122151679
This game sucks because of shit like this. Petulant middle schoolers that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground thinking they are hots gods when in reality they suck giant balls
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>>122151323
think i'm just going to stick to buying things i still like after free week ends. i like them too but that's too much gold to regret

>>122151679
definitely a case where everyone's retarded. jaina soloing is a waste and she didn't know enough to not bother herself.
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>>122153343
> jaina soloing is a waste
It really wasn't, the rest of our team was incredibly stunny and during the 2 deaths she had we got 6 kills and had a 2 level advantage
>>
>You were dropped
Holy shit this is as bad as desyncing in POE.
>>
>>122154650
Nothing is as bad as that.
>>
Oh, man Stitches is so much fucking fun, I do not regret my purchase at all.

I got a better handle of how to use Putrid Bile. Though, jesus christ, I fucked up that game, you'd think the hook would help me win vs Sonya and Morales, but it is pretty hard.
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>mfw next patch should reduce jaina's gold cost
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>>122155821
>Not taking Gorge.
>Not eating people and dropping them next to your fort.
>>
got 10,000 g's vg, who should I buy, the monk dude or the new zealot warrior?
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>>122130589
Lunara just got announced last week dude.
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>>122156595
Monk guy is good.
Artanis is not.
>>
>>122156595
luna
>>
>>122156130
Why would Jaina's gold cost be reduced?
>>
>>122156678
>Monk guy is good.
planning on playing him as an assassin though, is this kosher?

>Artanis is not.
He seems good with zealot dash but his skills are a bit retarded.

I though the whole point of blade dash was that you could use it to increase the swap distance but you can't even use them together.
>>
>>122157056
As long as you take Transcendence. You can still take the damaging talents and destroy stuff.

Iron Fist is literal garbage.
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>>122156797
because old whore dun deserves that price
>>
>>122156595
Monk is good for the party
Artanis is a lil' bitch
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>>122156139
I want to take Gorge because I think it is hilarious and it is probably the right call against certain comps, but Bile is picked more often on HOTDOGS.

Also, I can't win a game to save my life. Mainly because we never get any damage dealers.

My last comp was Gazlowe, Morales, Me (Stitches), Abathur and Nova.

The other team had Jaina, Valla, Morales (of course), Gazlowe and uh... something else.

I guess it was "evenly matched" in terms of both comps being retarded, but god damn were we fucked.
>>
>>122156139
Gorge gets you pickoffs, putrid bile wins you teamfights with the right comp

Slowing an entire team for a prolonged amount of time is fantastic, the damage is alright too and the survivability you get from it at level 20 is crazy
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>>122157287
Isn't it getting buffed next patch though?

Seems good when mashing on Arthas in test mode.

Might just wait a bit for Cho'gall, you can play him without friends right? I like the idea of just playing a head and getting ferried round all game.
>>
desu senpai I love playing Nova, she suits how I've been wanting to play this game for a long time
>>
>>122157541
It's not. Transcendence destroys it just for utility. You heal yourself while laning for no mana meaning you don't care about trading damage and you can take merc camps solo extremely easy.

Transcendence is just all around better. Which is why everyone takes it.
>>
>>122157541
No. You need a friend.
>>
>Blizzard allows Cho'Gall to be played with randoms
>People just pick Gall and afk

Yeah great idea guys. You can see why it is the way it is.
>>
>>122160250
Where do you get the idea from that you can just be afk without getting kicked?
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>>122160331
Actually blizz said chogall is only for pre mades.
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>>122160368
LONELY AUTISTFAGS

BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
L
O
W
N

T
H
E

F
U
C
K

O
U
T

DAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A SOCIABLE AND NORMAL HUMAN BEING
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>>122160596
>SOCIABLE AND NORMAL HUMAN
stop telling lies, Anon
>>
>>122160331
>cast one spell
>alt tab

There ya go.
>>
Signs you know you're about to lose:

>"lets back door it while theyre busy

Feel free to add your own.
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>>122160810
I've kissedtwo girls and I have a duo buddy

what do YOU have, pal?
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WAT
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>>122160814
Why is this unique to this situation?

>attack click enemy core
>alt tab
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>>122160957
nothing
you bully
>>
>>122161091
>Zuma
>Dropped
It keeps happening
>>
>>122160957
>I've kissed two girls
you and me both buddy
>>
>>122161106
Because you are also fucking over the Cho who can't even detonate his own bomb.
>>
>>122160957
Your mom and sister don't count faggot
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>>122161363
I mean, you're fucking your team over and wasting 9 people's time either way, but yeah that makes sense.
>>
>>122160957
>>122161281
Three girls over here. Two were at parties though and we didn't fuck, so it doesn't count.

Also, jesus christ, I am having a lot harder time with Stitches, though I am loving every second.

I am getting more frustrated with my team. It might be my MMR going down.
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>>122161471
I know
>>
Any tips on playing Kael'thas?
>>
>>122163660
Keep throwing out your free living bomb with your d. He is the easiest assassin to play in the game.
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>tfw you know you're gonna lose 2 min into the match
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>>122131474
7 hours late but I can't just not respond to this travesty.
>grounding over regen
>keg
>enough to share
>>>>>>>>>>>>bolder flavor over pressure point

Pls. If you're going to play Chen, at least do it right.
>>
Tips for playing Zagara? I'm not sure when to try and take camps, or push , or team fight, or try to solo
>>
>>122165607
Grounding over Regen isn't that bad.

I wish Keg was just a generic sweeper, it would make it so viable and so good.

WTB Enough to Share baseline
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>>122166038
Grounding is situational, best when the enemy doesn't have a lot of stuns but a lot of ability damage. That generally doesn't happen very often, since one of the best ability damage heroes (kael) has a good stun.

Honestly, keg is a good ult, but the effort required to make it work just isn't worth it sometimes, while SEF takes way less effort to make work and has equivalent impact.
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>>122163752
top kts save their D.

They stun, D, then double living bomb.
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I have 4000 gold. I've played Anub'arak and enjoyed him. I'm thinking of buying either him or Sonya since I don't have any warriors, but I've never played her before. Who should I buy?
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>>122166545
Sonya is an assassin labeled as a warrior. Don't pick her and expect to be tanking a lot of damage. Anub at least has locust swarm to keep him tanky in fights. If you want a warrior, go with anub.
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>>122166545
you shouldn't buy without a free week, but Sonya is very strong right now and is kind of getting a buff in the next patch
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>>122156139
Gorge fucking sucks
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>>122166664
>Let Chen die by arriving late
Dropped. We know he did all the heavy work you kill stealer
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About to get enough gold to buy a 7000 hero.

Should I get Rehgar or wait until Kharazim? Those are the two that I'm looking at. Which is more fun?
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>>122163660
Heres his single target combo (how I do it)

D
Living bomb
Stun
Living bomb
Flamestrike

After you get ult (Phoenix)
Ult
D
Living bomb
Stun
Living bomb
Flamestrike
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>>122167268
Btw this whole combo should be done in 2s max.

Your flamestrike should go off right as he falls down from his stun
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>>122165757
Learn the timings for the maps to take mercs. As a general rule if there's a lane with no one in it you should soak that lane rather than take camps (unless its super pushed up and you would be in gank danger for going there)

Also make sure your creep is spreading everywhere. Rapid incubation seems good but imo endless creep is better. Huge vision, harder to find tumors, movespeed. Rapid incubation will barely ever save your life since you have to stop to use it whereas endless creep will save you lots as long as you look at the map.

Since there is no last hitting you should be basically saying at the minimap and only glancing to your hero while you're soaking or doing a merc camp (on any hero)
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Why is the win 3 games daily such bad luck?

0-6 in HL today
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>>122167937

It's just you.
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>>122167937
Definitely do that quest vs ai
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So I just picked up HOTS with my friends yesterday. It seems pretty fun we're all big DOTA 2 fags so this is a good change of pace.
Not spending half the game last hitting is nice and instead just right away brawling.
It's taking a long long time to grind levels. I'm getting like 200k a win with the stimpack up.
Is playing agaisnt real people a lot more EXP?
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>>122169371
Yes you get more xp vs real people compared to ai
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Why do you only get 30 gold a game? Most heroes seem to be 7k-10k. I know you get daily quests and those leveling gold bonuses every now and then, but 30 gold? What the fuck man.
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>>122170275
A weekend? At 30 gold a game you would have to play and win 300 games just to get 9,000 gold. That's basically enough to purchase 1 hero. Now obviously this is shortened due to daily quests and leveling heroes to 5/10, but that is still an absolutely fucking absurd amount of time to spend just to unlock one character, and way more than any other MOBA with an unlock system.
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>>122171224
Blizzard just over charges for things.
Look at character skins in hs, or anything in the wow store. They don't understand this game doesn't have the sway of wow or hs

Honestly for free, I think the gold gain is fine, just play awhile, it's the cash prices that are fucked. If you want to just buy shit in this game and not wait around for sales, it is absurd.
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>>122171534
>not wanting to do peasant grinding
>"omg cancer gtfo"
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>>122171534
Calm down, the gold gains are pretty minuscule for people who are interested in trying out a large variety of heroes. Not all new players know only half the heroes are genuinely worth buying
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>>122171758
>putting characters behind arbitrary paywalls
>fun
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>>122171923
Enjoy your ban, horsefucker :^)
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>>122171534
>entitlement
>not wanting to grind for weeks on end is now "entitlement"

That word has really lost its meaning. If enough people are complaining about it, maybe it's not the great systme you think it is?
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>>122171923
>ponyfucker is also a blizzdrone

Who would have thought?
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>>122172104
>players are responsible for blizzard's greed
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>>122171923
That's going to get a ban faster than senjinns dick
and upset more people
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>>122172202
>wow fucking cancer why won't you accept blizzard's dick up your ass like we have? come on man its not that fucking bad i mean they'll fuck you for two months, you're not going to get fucked in a weekend you babby
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Leave it to a ponyfag to go into a sperg rage over valid complaints.
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I mean, I ~like~ playing all rotation heroes and learning new ones each week, and even I think the gold gains are too low without stimpacks.
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>create a second account to grind so I can duo queue HL with my bf
>forgot that talent locks were a thing
>forgot how stupid new players were

I want to fucking kill myself right now
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>>122172398
Is this your first MOBA? You can still play the game and earn gold at a reasonable rate without having to feel like you're being forced to grind for days on end.

See: Literally every other MOBA with unlockable characters
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Sonya confirmed for cutest waifu???
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>>122172456
nope
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>>122172452
>>122172527

I worded that a bit poorly, for clarification: In every other MOBA with unlockable characters, you can earn currency at a very reasonable rate without having to feel like you're grinding for days just to unlock a new character.
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>>122172514
FUVCK YOU
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>>122172527
What the actual fuck are you talking about? Name one fucking MOBA that is even remotely like that.
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>>122172527
>paywalls are the same as skillgates

millenials.tiff
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>>122172403
Well hey it's free Chen week, perfect time for a new account to stomp with.

Wish I thought of doing this on Tuesday, now I feel like its too late
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>>122172606
>Defens of the Ancients Two
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Duh, of course it's grindy to unlock characters. Otherwise there would be no incentive for people to spend money.
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>>122172202
Just relax, just because you are fedora doesn't mean you have to be so anti-christian, I mean I don't mind an occasional JC but dude you really use that as a crutch, have some creativity and say Buddah's Balls or Great Thor's Hammer or something.
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>>122172794
>this is a good thing
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>>122172687
And tell me, how does DOTA 2 giving you every hero automatically make it "hand holding"?
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>>122172606
Heroes of newerth

Dota 2
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>>122172527
>learn to play
>before you grind

really?

That's the argument you're going with?

I was top500 ladder US a few months ago just to put things into perspective. I quit ranked because it's boring as fuck and all the new heroes feel uninspired. Also they gutted abathur which isn't fun.

No amount of skill will allow you to not play the 2000+ games required to unlock everything in this poor unlock system they're currently using, you dumbfuck.

Not to mention the fact that the game is so heavily based around team-comps and how every hero on your team synergizes with the others, which makes it even worse. Being able to counterpick with all the heroes in the game is a massive fucking advantage in ranked, which you can't do if you don't have all the heroes.

Which means it's basically pay2win.

It's a poor system for this type of game, and there is no excuse for having it except greed on Blizz's part.
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>>122173108
>I'm currently rank 28 but I was rank 29 4 days ago
>I'll be rank 1 in no time and these virgins won't even know what hit em
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>>122173108
>I'm almost rank 1! My life has meaning!

This is just sad now ponyfag, stop posting it's getting embarrassing.
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>>122171758
>literally literally literally literally literally literally literally literally literally literally
I want millennials to leave
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>>122172669
Not when his staple talent tree is literally locked until level 3 and 4, he becomes one of the most unfun things to play
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>>122172831
Yes? In general I like capitalism. If people didn't spend money on HotS it wouldn't exist.
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>>122173421
That takes like 30 minutes to unlock
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>>122173347
Man, do you have downsyndrome or something? No one's claiming that bitching here will change it, they're simply saying it's not a good system, which you are actively defending saying it IS a good system.
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>>122173108
I'm already rank 1, I'm cleaning up my Beach Chen drawing and sketching it in SAI

But good luck climbing buddy you've got this!
>>122173421
Oh really? I haven't looked at what exactly gets talent gated in a long time. Is it the second half of all the talents? I can't remember
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>Daily Quest: Win 3 Games As A Specialist Hero!
>No specialist heroes even in the free rotation

Thanks Blizzard.
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>>122173492
Not when you're in a team full of trashcans. Constanty losing means you will level extremely slow.

>>122173515
With the exception of Regen Master, all his go-to talents are locked behind the second half of the talent choices.
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>>122173561
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>>122173565
Ah so it is the second half of the talent trees locked, yeah that really sucks. I can't play chen without BB. That's all I really need
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>>122173561
I'm not in a position to check, but are you sure about that?
Not even the lvl 12 free hero?
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>>122173556
>no, i'm not, fucking hell, are you reading anything i'm typing out?

Yes, I am.

>>122172527
>"i'm the "blizzdrone" who is telling people to stfu about the grind and just fucking learn to play the game before bitching about being unable to unlock everything like Hello Kitty Dreamland Online where everything is hand holding for you and all the unlockables are given to you after 5 hours of play because you're all winners and deserve to unlock everything in 4 games"

>>122171758
>"just fucking play the game for fun because that's the literal point of a game and forget the grind, this isn't pokemon. you can literally main like 4 heroes and be perfectly fine"

>>122171534
>"fucking christ, everyone bitches about it at the beginning, and to be completely honest, you're not going to play all of the heroes. don't even fucking lie that you're going to, because you're not. no one else."

>"i'm fucking sick and tired of people bitching about it. fuck off with your "hurr durr i wanna unlock everything in a week" entitlement shit and fucking play the damn game"

>>122170275
>"you're expected to play the game for more than a fucking weekend you twat"

Have you been reading what YOU'VE wrote? Backpedal into hell.
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>>122173662
>>122173730

I'm not level 12 yet, thats probably why.
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Based janitor banning the retard.
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the funny thing is that last hitting is actually a good, well "designed" mechanic (as opposed to the other 97% of mechanics that randomly amalganated into this genre). It's easy to learn (bust a cap in dat nigga to get cash money), but hard to master.
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>>122173732
>ponyfaggot banned

M O D S
O
D
S

A R E
R
E

G O D S
O
D
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>>122173732
>All those deleted posts
>"Backpedal into hell"

Damn, thats some finishing move type shit
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WHAT I MISS!?
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>>122173816
I disagree.
Last hitting isn't fun and favors certain heroes over others very easily.
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>>122173160
You can call Rexxar many things, among them "shitty" and "weak as fuck", but not uninspired.
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>>122173816
It favors shitters who contribute nothing to fights except kills. At least HotS has shared EXP so you won't get duped out of your level ups by Nova/Illidan/Zeratul/Valla griefing your targets, so it won't matter in any way.
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Not played in a while, is brightwing still decent or a shitter now?
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>>122174406
Shitter. Used in niche comps but wont see much play
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>>122174406

Can't ever think of a situation where picking someone else wouldn't be better, when it comes to pubs at least.
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>>122174497
>>122174406
>>122174559

Literally more than half of the Blizzcon games used Brightwing
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>>122174176
>Last hitting isn't fun
missing last hits isn't fun*
ftfy
>and favors certain heroes over others very easily
>waah le supports are le weak
playing properly while underfarmed is a skill
>>122174312
>It favors shitters who contribute nothing to fights except kills
They get rewarded for understanding the mechanic properly. Everything is in order.
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>>122174628
coordinated premade at world championships Vs solo q hl
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>>122174628
Hence the niche comps part
To boot, uther was often banned so taking brightwing wasn't a bad option since the only way to stop huge burst is with good CC.
>>122174719
No I actually meant last hitting isn't fun. Even if you're good at it. And as I said, some heroes just don't last hit good, it's not fun having heroes you like and struggling because they don't last hit good.

I didn't say it wasn't skillful. It certainly has some depth to it but it's not the kind of depth that makes things interesting, just autistic.
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>>122174719
>diving in and picking off a target that's Already Dead while leaving their lane / the objective unattended
>overextending for muh killz
>deserves a reward

Tunnel vision is already a problem with most players who queue as close range assassins. The last thing they need is encouragement
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>>122174871
>Even if you're good at it
i and many others disagree
who are we, aliens?
>And as I said, some heroes just don't last hit good
heroes don't last hit, players do
everything can be solved by proper timing because that's what last hitting is, timing the attacks
>>122174878
>>diving in and picking off a target that's Already Dead while leaving their lane / the objective unattended
kills are objectives
>>overextending for muh killz
overextending is a problem whether you do it for kills or not
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>>122175047
>>122174871
>>122174719
>pone fucker tries to ban evade
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>>122175047
>kills are objectives

Tales from the Bronzelands
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I think I lost 5/7 games today that went down to the core or bad boss decisions..
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>>122175047
Uh no, I'm speaking intrinsically some heroes just absolutely are way better at last hitting than others. Rewarding heroes that can last hit better with an easier time and power creep isn't engaging.
>>122175151
Not sure why you quoted me but here's your (You)
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>>122175196
well, not in ho "gimmick contestable deathpushes" ts
>>122175253
>and power creep isn't engaging.
spoken like someone who actually plays the game for the game and not to give context to patch notes
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>>122175338
you do know this is hotsg, the general for hots where we talk about hots & hots things?
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>>122175196
>Bronze

Go back to /lolg/ league babby
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Hows Anub these days?
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>>122176275
Solid pick. Not top tier, but a good warrior.
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>>122176275
Can't get kills. Can't finish off heroes. Literally worthless. Why even bother. Illidan is better.
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>>122175338
>spoken like someone who actually plays the game for the game and not to give context to patch notes
I don't know what you're saying here. Can you rephrase
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Dedthred
Dedgaem
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>Rehgar
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D E D

E

D
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>>122178068
>Uther
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>>122178245
Busy PWNING
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Whens Alarack?
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I am deciding between zeratul and nova which one should i get if i only care about hero kills and not at all about aoe?
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>>122178512
Dies after mission 2 is the better bet since that aoe ult is super useful
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>>122178342
how do you build chen?
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>>122167197
Kharazim is more fun because he actually attacks

Rehgar is probably better as a pure healbot if thats what you enjoy
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>>122178645
which one is that i don't play sc at all
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>firstpick in HL
>BoE
>two people at mid picks hovering over falstad and valla
>pick Kael'thas
>other guy takes Artanis because he's typical EU trash
>the next two people instalock their shitty assassins and then our healer is a Li Li

okay, no tank and no CC. gg
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>>122178512
You should stop being a faggot and play a real hero
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>>122179491
>pick Kael'thas
Its your own fault
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>>122178797
Consuming Flame
Amp healing
Brew Bal
SEF
Relentless
Pressure Point
Conduit
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>>122179415
Le Darkness hide you man
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>>122179634
>flame
>not reg master for maximum pandamonium
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>>122179289
>Rehgar better than Khaz at healing.

Damn you funny. Khaz is the second best support in the game.
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>>122179634
what the fuck am I reading
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>>122179584

>picking one of the best heroes in the game and expecting people to be able to fill adequate team roles in the next four slots

yep I'm at fault here

artanis took lethal alacrity and solarite ripper instead of the, you know, good Q talents and had the gall to PM me after game boasting about how he tanked 55K damage over 8 deaths

sonya just straight murdered everyone
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>>122180378
it's your MMR that causes this. yours.
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>>122180378
I actually don't know the name of Arty's talents because I usually chose the same ones with the exception of tier 1.

I'm guessing that they aren't the talents that make the cool down shorter for Q and reduces cool down of shield though?
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>>122180296
Regen master isn't necessary when I pick Chen in HL because I'm fighting low stun comps anyways. Damage is always useful and Consuming Fire let's me backline squishies and actually be a threat.
>>122180376
What do you have a problem with
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What's an interesting Thrall build or does he only have these windfurylol gib build?
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>>122180502

yeah, and defintiely not being relentlessly paired with these morons which fucked my MMR to begin with

use your brain

>>122180547

hit the nail on the head

also just had a game where leoric didn't take reanimation, sonya didn't take either AA talent at 4 and 7 and furious blow and a falstad that got outdamaged by both of the above and literally lost to a kerrigan who didn't take any Q talents. As Uther.

>go support
>your team is retarded
>go tank
>your DPS are too shit to kill anything
>go DPS
>no one picks a tank or proper healer

not like rank 1 would be any better
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>>122181506

lightning build or bust

http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/thrall#kHh6
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>>122181615
Just go Chen be your own support and assassin
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>>122181648
>>122181506

>mfw try mode with his new skin

this is such a good skin

>CL turns into a chain lava beam spell
>erupt w/ lava when wf cast

£7 though. fuck sake.
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>people think $10 is too much for a skin

It's the standard and fair price.
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How to Chen?
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>when murky gets left completely unchecked all game

I don't know we were sort of doing well then Kael kept getting caught out constantly, especially once at the end - all of us except for him were rushing like fuck to get top terror because we had no mid keep at 21min and they were about to get and summon a terror, where is Kael when we're all backing to defend? Walking through mid lane, getting caught and dying

Also Stitches insisted on getting the terror each time when I'm the only one with any sort of decent escape

It's matches like this that make me want to buy Murky sometime, it's just that most people have a very dim view of him, he's 4v5 if the enemy has Uther and I still am missing core heroes, well, Jaina and no one else. I always preferred Valla.
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>>122179491
>CommanderImShit will NEVER trip

how does this make you feel?
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>VoiceOver/CrusaderBase/IntroQuestion_Deckard00=Deckard? How did you get here?
>VoiceOver/CrusaderBase/IntroQuestion_DiabloHero00=It has been a long time since you were in the fight. Are you ready?
>VoiceOver/CrusaderBase/IntroQuestion_Imperius00=Can you bear to fight alongside a mortal, Imperius?
>VoiceOver/CrusaderBase/IntroQuestion_Malthael00=Haven't I killed you several times, Malthael?
>VoiceOver/CrusaderBase/KillBaal00=More muscle than brain, but not enough of either.
>VoiceOver/CrusaderBase/KillMagdha00=For Deckard!
>VoiceOver/CrusaderBase/KillMephisto00=Weren't you supposed to be the clever one?
>VoiceOver/KaelthasBase/IntroQuestion_WoWHero00=Didn't one of my advisors kill you? Thaladred perhaps, yes?
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>>122182381
Are 6 skins worth as much as a new AAA game? The answer is no. Simply because of difference in terms of time and thought put into them.
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>>122183118
>>122183139
ayyyy lmao
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>>122182381
Why would you ever buy a skin that wasn't on sale?
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>>122182381

It's fair but I have a habit of eating out a lot while also being employed only 16 hours per week. A skin is a meal.
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>>122182381
piss off dustin, go make those swimsuits and maybe people wont bitch about paying $10
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>>122183139

I -could- trip but I'll change it every time to fuck with you

>so then, why don't you like me?
>hurr you're bronze and you're bad at the game and I dun't like you hate haet hat
>okay then, who in this general do you not think is bronze and bad at the game
>uhhhh...takada? butbutbut he blogs too and I dun't like that so iunno lol

fun fact: lenny face is considered spam if you put it in part of the post. bet you didn't know that you newfag
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>>122183141
Sauce
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>>122183168
Yes in my case. I don't buy any games really anymore.
>>122183308
Cause they are cool and I don't like to wait.
>>122183340
That's fair enough. I spend alot going out too sometimes which means I can't buy as much in HotS, but when you start going out and doing things with your friends you realize how little 10 dollars is.
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>>122183141
Source please.

Also
WoWHero00...oh god what is this.
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>>122183168
Also it costs $0 to sell those skins. blizzard doesnt have to build one for each customer, they can copy infinity of them fro free
not to mention that making that skins cost not more than like $5-10k in manhours work and blizz git that investment back in like 30 minutes after the skin went live in the store
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Why dont they follow our lord and savior Gaben? He made skins fucking dirt cheap, havent played doto for a while but a chest was like 2 bucks. And he literally prints money with this shit. Instead the made skins so expensive that only truly insane people would even consider buying them, 10 bucks per skin what a fucking joke.
>>
>>122183535
>>122183429
Conversation strings added to the PTR. I found it on Plebbit
>There's also more fresh references to Kil'jaedan and Vash'j, but since there are already references to him within Illidan's voicelines, I didn't include those in this list. There's also no lines here for Cho'gall, although there are lines for Erik, Rexxar and Tychus killing him.
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>>122183613

>KJ

yes pls
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>>122183168
This.
For fucks sake, you could have got grand theft auto at launch, or the new fallout, or whatever, or you could buy 3 regular priced heroes and 1 skin each.

Or you could get 4 mid priced heroes with 1 cheaper skin each. Or the six cheapest heroes with 1 cheaper skin each.

If you want to charge out the ass for gold, thats fine, its free, but if somebody wants to just buy shit, its fucked. Half the roster, with a skin each, is hundreds of dollars
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What this game needs is Mannoroth

What's taking so long??????
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>>122183613
Yeah but with 1 hero a month with CG Genn and lunara having reserved next 3 we will get them in like 2 years.
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>>122183535
Leeroy time
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Sonya will never snuggle you...
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>spider queen
>hover over Kael before anyone else hovers
>tyrael, jaina, valla, malfurion

Ok, sonya it is...
>>
thw queue as Carrygan but you end up as the only melee on the team
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>>122183718

is he even hinted at in game files yet
>>
alright what one of you people have Chogall?
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>>122183718
>Not Mal'Ganis.
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>>122184605
>not Gluth
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>>122184659
>>122184605
>>122183718
let me tell you something about what heroes needs.
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>>122114008

why have they not locked out Zeratul? Zeratul is dead
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>>122184659
>Not Archimond
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>>122184717
>Not WIIIIIIIINDS!
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>>122184275

tyrael and malfurion did nothing all game

straight 0-16 lost against uther/raynor/jaina/muradin/sylvanas in 13 minutes flat

fourth loss in a row now from no fault of my own
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>>122184659
>not Lothar
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>>122184937
>Picking Sonya against all that CC and no burst healing.

Kind of fucked yourself.
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>>122184937
You didn't pick a main tank. You're retarded, son.
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>>122185146
>>122185281

My odds were better in just trying to Sonya my way through it than picking someone like Johanna and hoping the other four wouldn't go out of their way to get themselves killed.
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>>122185389
That's possibly the most bronze sentence I've read all day.
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>que up QM with 2 firends
>get ingame
>dropped
>dropped
>everyone's getting dropped repeatedly for the entire game
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>You were dropped!
>You were dropped!
>You were dropped!
>You were dropped!
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>>122184762
Not the person who summoned Archimonde
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>>122185862
>kel thuzad
>summoned archimonde
uwot?
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>>122185985
Warcraft III? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IZY7yi6MKE

Sorry for the shitty vid, but it's the first one I found. Check 4:15.
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WE DID IT LADS

special thanks to the 5th pick thrall who died 10 times

next up, rank 25
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>>122186147
oh yeah
sorry its late i dont know what i was thinking
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>tfw you'll never be as bronze as commanderITF
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>>122186241
I'm actually enjoying your downfall
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so where do the numbers fall as in ranks?
like is 50-40 bronze 40-30 silver and so on or is it different?
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>>122186241
>rank 20
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>>122186525

anything below 1 is bronze

I'm not being funny.
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>>122186525
bronze isn't a number, bronze is an attitude
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>>122186525
They don't work like that when my MMR dropped to 800 I was able to climb out of it and got to Rank 7 it was still under 1700 than. Ironically I'm rank 15 now but my MMR is 2200 now. Basically I see no point in playing ranked since it's really not indicative of anything.
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>>122186809
If you can't get to rank 1, it is indicative that you are a shitter.
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>>122186387

yea well at least I'm capable of doing more than the same uninspired shitpost that's present over 400 times a thread #probablyrektbutprobablynot

>>122186428

it's not a downfall if I was at the bottom to begin with you dumb frogposter

I actually have a good mind just to repeatedly dodge until I'm rank 40 to see if theres actually any difference in how retarded, the players are, because so far...

>having to deal with solo tank artanis who takes damage talents and then having the entire team decimated by sonya because no one in the next three picks took any CC
>a falstad who does basically nothing, a leoric who doesn't take reanimation and vikings who feed as much as they soak
>people who without escape take the garden terror only to overextend and die, and a kael who keeps getting caught out despite having a tassadar tryna safeguard his arse
>tyrael and malfurion on spider queen against gank.comp and me calling tails and it being heads on my pick
>thrall dying 10 times, muradin and thrall both taking block and a malfurion that wandered off to soak top on cursed hollow when he had no idea where any of the enemy team were

But on the other hand we've got quality creative posts like >>122186605 to enhance the experience. Like, the post is already pointing that out, why did you have to greentext it you plonker? God if anything is bronze in this general it's people's impulse control
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how does one see your mmr?
and what do you people solo q hero league to raise it up?
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>>122186891

Yeah you're pretty good at being so defensive about being so unbelievably bad at the most casual game in the most casual genre out there.
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>>122186891
>abloo bloo ur all meanies ;-;

get bent bronzie
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>>122186970
>>122187031

Future heads of creative industries here, folks.
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>>122186876
Maybe but I prefer QM now when I queue with a few buddies I met in the /vg/ chat the games generally are better overall and more enjoyable. When I play in HL people play like shit, have shit builds and end up putting me on tilt.
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does anyone else love watching pookise?
she can be silly at times but after seeing her naked i just want to watch her forever
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>>122187080
m8, I just wanna talk about HotS here, not a) read your whiny blogposts about shit you could fix if you just got gud nor b) discuss highbrow creative shit. so get b e n t
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wasnt there supposed to be a sale with the winning heroes/skins from the world finals?
did i miss it? i really want to pick up that angelic valla
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>>122187492
next week goyim.
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>>122187492
Soon
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>>122187316

Well, talk about it then instead of making zero content posts of 9GAG-tier imitative bullshit. if you're not any of the above anons then this isn't aimed at you.

Honestly half of the reason I post on /hotsg/ is to try and get posts flowing by hook or by crook, any other time it's kind of a dismal ho-hum of watercooler conversation. Let's be frank here, that is how it is nowadays.

As for the 'shit I could fix' thats why I play quite a lot of HL nowadays, knowing I can slowly clock up games and improve, again by hook or by crook. It's hard to get in any sort of practice as someone like, say, Kael'Thas when three levels behind and a ton of missed soak is restricting what you can do. I should buy Murky.

also, here's a picture of Li Li laughing to appease her fans.
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>>122187295
Who the fuck is pooksie?
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>>122187907
How about you start with a different mindset like "what can I do better" rather than blaming your teammates. Maybe go back to basics and play Valla to get a refresher course on positioning and stutter stepping or take a week off since you're clearly playing tilted.
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>>122188436
probably your mom
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What are some good 4 man teams with good synergies?
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>>122188568
Tyrande/Uther, Muradin, kael'thas and Kerrigan
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>>122188568
murky, illidan, chen, brightwing, sonya
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>>122188496

That actually sounds pretty decent.
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>>122188568
Butcher/lllidan/ETC/Hammer
Gazlowe/Azmodan/Hammer/Syvanas, with Zagara for maximum keks
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>>122188801
Lel
On the topic of chen however, how should he be used? So far I saw people going full tank and just standing in the middle of the enemy team soaking up damage. If the enemy are idiots, they focus Chen and achieve nothing, if they aren't, they leave Chen be and proceed to a 5v4... So, how to be an effective Chen?
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>tfw internet goes down one time and immediately branded as a leaver
neat
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>>122189130
just chase people around wacking them and breathing fire and slowing them and shit, before they start using abilities on you just start drinking your brew, then they start running again and you just flying kick chase them dead, chen is a god at chasing people, oh ya and if you're low health just ult and run away
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>>122189130
Find the damage, then kill the damage. I kinda play him like a tankier Illidan with less damage. Learn to play around CC.
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>3 minutes
>map still hasnt loaded
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>>122186241
I love seeing you on the rank you deserve.
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>>122186891
You're a massive faggot, but at least with people like you the thread isn't just full of furry porn when you filter "shitter" and "bronzie"
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>>122166664
I miss when Locust Swarm was so good that popping it in a team fight guaranteed at least one kill
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commanderwhinetf going all out today
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So I'm very new to HOTS just started yesterday and bought Arthas right away because I'm a huge LK fag.
I've been playing him almost non stop and he's a lot of fun. Please tell me he's not total shit in real games.
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>>122194193
He's okay.
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>>122194193
playable
there are worse picks, e.g. chen
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>>122194193
if you're good at him he's great, but he works best as a combo starter/off tank. Root someone, let your team dump all their AoE on him, dick around in fights being stupidly hard to kill but not having any escapes
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>>122194193

He's just about as middle of the road as you can get.
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Has this game changed since beta?
I remember playing for a week or so and getting bored.
Stopped having fun with Dota after many years so I'm considering playing this.
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>>122194548
>I remember playing for a week or so and getting bored.
elaborate. What was the problem you had that induced you to quit?
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>>122194548

it's just as shit as it was in beta
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>>122194548
It's shit.
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>tfw I haven't played Chen in days

Help.
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>>122194992
You'll probably lose the Vikings itch when the new scaling comes out.
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>>122195272
Maybe. I think the new scaling will help Chen, too. It'll alleviate some of his early game problems.
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>>122195519
Yeah, that'd be awesome. Though, honestly, I have more trouble playing Diablo or Stitches than Chen. Chen is really comfy to play.

Hey, you posted a triple kill webm of Anub, that was before the nerf, right? It looked unbelievable.
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>>122196051
>Hey, you posted a triple kill webm of Anub, that was before the nerf, right?
it happened a few days after the beetle AI buff, before Locust Swarm and beetle damage got nerfed
t. /hotsg/ pro
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>>122196051
Yeah, >>122196159 is right. I think it was literally the day of the buff. Webm related was also in the same day. Anub used to be my favorite hero (even before the buffs), but then the nerf to bfb kinda killed my playstyle of him. That was before I really played Chen intensively, too.
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how do i tripple tap with nova? fuckers keep hiding behind buildings
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>>122196654
Just pick the other ulti
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>>122196654
>fuckers keep hiding behind buildings
they can't hide from the sky
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>>122196654
Don't take triple tap! Tada.

>>122196330
>>122196159
Gotcha. Anub was my first hero and I still love him, but as a CC bot, I need to be a lot better with his tunnel and that requires practice and whenever I come back from playing other heroes I just forget how to do it properly.

I also have no idea what build to do any more. I used to do beetle, but that's apparently scrub shit, so I dunno.
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>>122196654
pick the good ult :^)
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>>122196330
>Thisigia playing good characters instead of Chen
terrifying
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>senjinn will never post his dick again
why even live?
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Is it just that he counters the fuck out of Morales or is Chen a stone cold killer?

That kick cd is so short. It's like I'm fat Illidan, going in and wrecking everyone.
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>>122198232
Whenever I'm playing Chen and I see an enemy morales on the loading screen I yawn and collect my free win. Morales is really weak against divers, and Chen is really good against immobile squishies.
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>>122197192
>>122196728
No that other one is garbage it does tiny damage compared to triple tap and it is very very easy to dodge if you arent sgt hammer. the aoe ult requires enemies to be stunned and i always paly solo, running around the map sniping down low health enemies and don't really help with pushing etc (this is why i have the char disable since every was always so mad at me and insulted me, because we almost always lose due to me ignoring objectives) but i don't care i love taking out heroes and that is what i do, so i will definitely stick with the triple tap
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>>122198656
but triple tap gets blocked.
just pick another assassin.
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>>122198726
other assassins are useless, if the enemy starts running you are always fucked, you will never catch him.. sometime assassins have teleport and shit but that will only let you get in one more hit before he gets away, nope, nova is the best and the sluttiest too
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>>122198849
>other assassins are useless,
>Triple Tap is better than Precision Strike but Triple Tap never works
NOVA MAINS EVERYONE
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>play support
>entire team is retarded

>play assassin
>entire team is retarded

>play specialist or warrior
>entire team is competent

What's up with this?
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>>122197503
I've been playing vikings recently, too. Tremble in fear.
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>>122181615
>yeah, and defintiely not being relentlessly paired with these morons which fucked my MMR to begin with
>use your brain

Good old circular logic
>I'm stuck in low MMR because of morons on my team!
why are you stuck with morons?
>because of my low MMR!
but why is your MMR low to begin with?
>because of these morons on my team! I'm stuck with them!
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>>122199006
50% of tanks are retards compared to 20% of any other role being retards
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>tfw vikings player
>tfw the new patch will make them completely useless
>tfw their w/l will plummet and they end up forgotten and abandoned
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>>122199360
>Viking nerfs finally
get fucked takada, the freelo ride is over
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Anyone ever get banned for pre-order canceling to get Fartanis?
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>>122199575

>bronze retard thinks vikings are OP
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>>122199646
>takada thinks 7v5 is fair
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>>122199360
What if.
Now hear me out.
What if, if vikings turned out to be bad next patch, blizz decided to buff them by making them get more xp from soak than normal heroes.
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>>122199715

Yes, you definitely are a bronze retard.

>>122199750

No. What? That's the dumbest fucking suggestion I've ever heard.
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>>122199750
too specific and imbalanced, not to mention that it'd cause issues with how exp works
also
>nobody would ever be able to tell because they removed exp displays from the scoreboards
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>>122161281
Yo, me too dog. Only one was pretty though
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when will the kill stat come?
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>>122200000
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>>122200003
Yes
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>>122199848
>Yes, you definitely are a bronze retard.
good argument. Explain how free invincibility, an extra 2 characters, .25 XP gain for killing them, and an ult that revives dead ones, making killing them completely meaningless is fair
there's a reason they regularly go up to +65% winrate
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>>122198656
>>122198849

>nova mains
>anyone with a nova over level 5
>anyone who purchased nova
>nova players

just
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>>122200283

>he thinks individual vikings are as powerful as a regular hero
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reminder to buy rehgar to prepare for the upcoming uther nerfs
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who /readyforadventure/ here?
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>>122200620
reminder to buy a real healer like lili/monk
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>>122200620

reminder to buy kharazim instead of rehgar
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reminder that ty randy exists and is fun to play as
also ass
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>>122199360
>Vikings finally weak enough to be back in rotation

HYES
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>>122200436
awww did little mad baby got snipped when he skiddadled from a team fight like a little pussy to hide behind is silly little turret towers?
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>>122198656

Go play Call of Duty
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>>122201046

did nova make a kill that didn't help his team?

it happens sometimes. but not today.
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>>122200648
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>>122186905
hotdogs is all we've got
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Do people just ignore anub's locust swarm? I can barely see the animation myself amongst Jaina's blizzard and KT's fire shit so it feels like it just gets ignored and they die.
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>>122199360
I really hope I'm wrong, but I think the stat adjustments will ruin the carefully crafted balance we have now for most heroes and it'll take quite a while for Blizz to fix them.
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what hero level do i need for the black horsie skin?
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>>122202474
8
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>>122202391
this.
On top of that we will have retards unable to understand that meta changes sticking to shit that doesnt and bitching at you for 'not doing it right' for months
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>>122202474

it's a dark horse amongst all of the available mounts
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>>122202376
It's pretty hard to notice, but, I mean, there's not much you can do about it. It's a pretty big aoe and getting out of the fight just to avoid it usually isn't worth it.

>>122202391
Nah, I don't think it'll be that bad. The heroes that thrive on xp soak like aba and TLV will definitely take a hit, but aside from that I can only see strong early game heroes like zag getting hit. It's basically like starting everyone at level 8 with no talents.
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Just bought Arthas since I think hes cool

r8 my decision
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>>122202753
its going to make things like marksman suck and conjurers suck more
and anybody with poor scaling like naz are fucked
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>>122200892
Her ass is great but everyone ignores her boobs
perfect breasts
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>>122202391
Why would it ruin the balance?

Its not like heroes are wildly imbalanced when both teams hit lvl 8 right now
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>>122202992
I'm pretty sure if it was that bad blizz would have noticed in their internal testing and done something about it. I can see how there might be a problem, but I think it's best we just wait and see.
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>>122203195
like rexxar on release
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>>122203195
>I'm pretty sure if it was that bad blizz would have noticed in their internal testing and done something about it.
good one
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>>122198656
>that other one is garbage
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>>122203361
>>122203512
Keep in mind that all this scaling stuff is back to old values at level 8. Stuff like regen was never picked for its early game strength, anyway, and I don't think it being slightly shittier for the first 7 levels will make too much difference.
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>>122203038

zagara/jaina/sonya/uther/kerrigan vs morales/nazeebo/artanis/kael'thas/raynor

:^)
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>>122202575
neat, is there any other mount except for the shitty coin i can get without paying real money?
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Why are there so few actual tanks in this game? The warrior archetype is filled with these gimmicky fucks who can't tank worth shit, and then theres Muradin and Johanna picked every game because they actually can

Give me one reason why heroes like Arthas and Artanis don't have the talents to build a tank properly
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>>122204065
hearthstone card mount and then the diablo reaper of souls mount if you have diablo 3+RoSexpansion, also I think there's some spider mount for liking something on facebook but I have no clue about that one, I don't use facebook
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>>122204065
theres a spider you get from some facebook thing, there was a pig and the treasure goblin, but both of them have been removed
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>>122204065
the Hearthstone card, which is the best mount
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>>122204080
Arthas has stoneskin, army, and hardened shield. That's all he needs to be a good solo tank.
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how do i into TLV, /hotsg/?

help me to enjoy them before the nerfbat comes.
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What's /wowg/ up to now?
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>>122204080
Because if you make a tank powerful enough to "just tank" they become overpowered due to the fact they're just a sustained melee assassin like illidan so you either need to buff assassins to be able to cope with there being "actual tanks" or you have to have all the tanks fulfill more of a bruiser role with cc but unable to stay TOO long if they get focused a bit.
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>>122204521
>>>/wowg/
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>>122204521
>>>/vg/wowg
ask them, not us
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>>122204521

>/wowg/

does anyone actually still give up $15/mo to play that game?
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>get disconnected
>get counted as a leaver have to wait 20 minutes to get into another game
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>>122200587
They are in terms of soak.
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>>122204789

iktf

>RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>122202753
Abathurs win rate will be the lowest in every league with this shit.
>>
can friendly memethur break my cloak?
>>
>Blizzcon
>Hearthstone gets a new and pretty fun looking adventure announced and out within 5 days
>HotS has to wait 10 days for a meme character and broken balance, then over a month for 2 more characters
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>>122205920
but we dont get balance changes often, paladin has been cancer for a while now and nobody likes it
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>>122206010

>but we dont get balance changes often

We get one every six weeks, though? That's WAY too frequent.

It's just that these balance patches are really dumb and Blizzard doesn't really do anything in them.
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>>122205920
>Hearthstone.
>Mysterious Challenger exists.

Right balance.
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>>122206117
I meant Hearthstone, my bad.
When I reread my post I thought it was pretty unclear as well.
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New HotS dominating team
>Kenma
>McIntyre
>Erho
>Arthelon
>Zuna
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>>122206257
Who
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>>122206303
They are calling themselves "Bob Ross fan club"

http://na.ets.gg/heroesofthestorm/teams/13666-bob-ross-fan-club
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>>122204240
fuck i have diablo but not the expansion.. can the blizzard be more jews?
how do i get the spider and the card please?
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>>122206456
The mount only makes sense with RoS so there's that. They didn't have reapers in vanilla.
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>>122206456
>>122204240

I thought diablo was only during the butcher/monk event if you logged in
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>>122206435

>desecrating Bob Ross' image with their stupid meme team
>>
>My team dies 14 times in 6 minutes.

How is that even possible? Chen died 6 times.
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>>122206887
but Bob Ross is a Twitch streamer, he'd probably love to have an e-sports team named after him Kappa
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>>122207031
>chen
Do you really have to ask?
>>
>>122207203
Chen is one of the tankiest fuckers in the game. They don't even have CC.
>>
>losing to a team with Abathur on it because yours ignores the lanes, focusing the Chen instead of the Healer, and obsessively grabs creep camps while the objective is ignored
>LOL WE GOT THE TRIBUTE, TIME TO GO GET A BOSS WHILE OUR BASE GETS RAPED
We got bosses four fucking times and every time we had to go back to defend our base while the enemy killed the boss before it damaged anything. What the fuck. Creep camps aren't all-powerful.
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>>122205775
Nope.
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>>122207373
People really love getting camps when things go to shit. Honestly in 90% of my clear losses this is what people waste their comeback chances on.
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>>122205775
people will see the spikes shooting out of you, but it won't break cloak
>>
>tfw enemy wastes his ult on your decoy
feels good man
>>
>get 3 support daily 3 days in a row before Morales 3 week
>she's now free
>get Warcraft quest twice and then Diablo and warrior
at least Chen's free too
>>
>>122207940
>tales from bronze
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>>122207950
>8 game quest two days in a row.
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JUST
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>>122208226
No really. He looks ill. He should see a doctor or something.
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oh wow stitches can carry people in his tummy? that is so fucking cute
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WE WUZ
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>>122208515
typical gold player
>>
An enemy team approaches you. They are comprised of:
>two DPS with 2+ escape mechanisms each
>a Warrior who will not die and will immediately return even if he is killed
>a squishy and delectable Healer
>a Support that does nothing
Who do you focus?
Who does your TEAM focus?
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>>122208627
Stitches is fun and cute.
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>>122208515
It's depression and the realization that he missed his shot at cashing in on hots since now even when he plays he's no longer popular and people watch other people
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>>122207559
or how they throw the game. Get wiped on boss, lose boss too. It's amazing how many shit calls are made every day.
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>>122186241
>this person thinks he's good
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>>122208861
I ancient spear into them, then whirlwind and chase the guy who's health goes down fastest while my team kills them as they scatter
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>>122205047
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?

are thy trying to kill the meme slug on purpose?
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>>122198521
>Literally anyone can kill Morales as long as there is no backup healer. Then you can't kill jack shit. Just look at each other untill one team can chain cc someone.
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>>122208226
Here's the fucking guy whose obsessed with nick. Stop posting this crap.
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>>122209178

if he thought he was good why is he showing himself dropping to rank 20? thats literal wood league shit
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-Artanis' Blade Dash now makes him unstoppable and can cancel it mid-flight but he cannot go through walls with it anymore

yes/no/kill urself
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>>122210351
make it so I can use E during Q
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>>122210351
He's designed around having no escape. This changes that. If anything just give him longer range on E and allow this >>122210568
and also give him Zealot Charge either baseline or much earlier.
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>>122210351
Way too strong. It would give a character balanced around having no chase/escape a very good chase/escape. It would also let him do pre-nerf illidan bullshit with the unstoppable.
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>>122208908
they should add ability to carry friendly players in his tummy, it will slowly suck their life but he will move 2 time the mount speed
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>>122210351
No. I'd want Zealot Charge to be baseline. That's all I ask. Now he has a good initiator an average escape and more mobility.
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>>122210351
>give artanis an escape with unstoppable

are you serious?
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>>122210351
Make artanus an assassin
Make his trait: repeatedly attacking increases your attack speed by 10% each time stacking up to 100%
Replace blade dash with charge
Replace swap with a short range blink that casts psy storm on the blink target
Replace his blind ult with a ring of immortals that casts on his location
Keep purifier beam and twin strike
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>>122210568
Make his E a targeted ability instead of the short, slow-ass skillshot that anyone can dodge by tripping over their limp dick.

Charge baseline, maybe a smaller range. 16 talent increases charge range. And increase melee range to 1.5 like any good melee.
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>>122211063
That sounds ridiculous.

Valla and Tychus's trait.
Zeratul's blink with an attack tied to it.
And another good escape.

Besides if your going to change an alt I'd rather him call on the Spear of Adun.
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Who should win in a 1v1 lane? Hammer or Azmodan?
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>>122211745
I would think Azmo but that sounds like a really stupid fight.
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>>122211063
>make a new hero that's basically other assassins in one
I would not enjoy that.

But at least slightly ridiculous posts like this make me realize how retarded Artanis is in practise. Sounds so fun and useful on paper, but totally isn't. Except the part where my team goes 3v1 and loses because of his shield, but that's just my MMR's fault.

>>122211745
Azmo would, but for some unknown reason I feel like Hammer should. Maybe I just want to fuck stocky sweaty whores.
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>>122212062
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>>122211598
It would be glorious. It's from sotis 2.0 the first sc2 moba before it became shit. Egonn stettman, the zealot, swann, aberration, tosh, ghost

It was awesome. Every hero was op as fuck and that made it balanced. Egonn stettman could clear clear waves at level one in seconds, and this was a game with last hitting. Damn I miss that game
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>>122211745
Azmo, hands down.
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>>122211063

>turn artanis into the broken hero from that shitty SC2 moba

I might be the only other person to have played that fucking map, although i loved that fucking hydralisk
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>>122211745
>>122211940
I've played plenty of 1v1 lanes vs azmo as hammer and I've always won them.
>azmo walks up to laser beam me
>hit him a few times as he's walking
>unsiege as he's starting to laser
>drive behind him
>knock him towards your towers into your mines
>shoot him as he's running away

Pretty much nothing he can do. If he's smart he'll just stay out of range and throw globes, it'll eventually get the hammer low and he'll be open for ganks
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>>122212242
I loved that game lol. That hydralisk was op as fuck
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>>122212290
Honestly, bronzie as fuck, but whenever I play versus Azmodan, as Hammer or otherwise, I feel like he has infinite HP and I just pussy out. I'll try your approach next time.
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>>122212457
Just don't try to autoattack vs his laser beam. It will outdamage your autos HARD.
Thing is though his laser builds up the damage, so in the first second or two you can afford to maneuver around him and knock him back. If you're low, just knock him back from the front and disengage.
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>>122212571
Thanks for the insights, can't wait for the next chance.

>>122212197
Fuck you I have to jack it now.
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>Murky complains we have no damage
>then proceeds to build Bubble Memechine
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>>122213723

Bubble talents are my favorite because then you know the murky is a total shitter

someone somewhere once told them not to die as murky and the fucking believed it
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oh shit you need to have 4 friends for the fb mount?
fucking hell, i don't have any and even if i had i have no interest in letting blizz spam their wall with their shit
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>>122213953

you can edit a kikebook post so that only you can see it m8
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>>122213861
>Bubble talents are my favorite because then you know the murky is a total shitter
the speed boost is ok if there isn't enough auto-attack on the other team for block to be a game changer, but all of the post-10 ones are game throwing and fuck everyone who takes them
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Hey! A flower!
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>>122214481
Oh! This is definitely the way!
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greymeme when?
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>>122214272


I can definitely see getting Bribe (although I still prefer block myself in all circumstances) but getting 20% increased bubble speedn is 200% retarded
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>>122214064
can i get some bot friends or some shit? i don't have any. or do i need to create 4 fb accoutns?
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>>122214832
>I can definitely see getting Bribe
I don't like Bribe. I know as Murky you're gonna get the stacks anyway, but clearing 6 minion waves just to take siege for free seems like it's not worth it when you could just go down and kill them between waves
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>>122215161

I understand bribe because in certain situations you can just escape and grab mercs or get them immediately after killing someone and be low

But like I said i prefer block in every case, unless youre laning against tychus, which you shouldn't be doing anyways.
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>>122213861
>No taking Slime Advantage and then the last two bubble talents for nonstop harassment.

It's not always the best build, but it works very well on maps with objectives or someone you are trying to target. Like a healer.
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/19893169250#1

It's staying, boys. Looks like you pussy splitpushers get to cling onto your exp numbers when called out on why you weren't at the teamfight.
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I am looking forward to playing Cho'gall desu.
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What happened to heroking? I want that modelviewer back
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>>122216086
I don't see how this is a bad thing in any way.
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>>122216337
Bronzies use it to justify to other bronzies why they didn't go to teamfights
so bronzies are mad it's staying
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>>122216086
>People still bitching about the Kill/Assists thing.

It's a fucking scoreboard. Who gives a fuck?
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>>122216547
this >>122216573
as long as it doesn't affect me or my games it's not even the slightest bit of important
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>>122216024

>not taking continuous slime and slimy pufferfish

seriously nigger you're gimping yourself. Murky is about dying, over and over, repeatedly. The difference is murky respawns in 5 seconds and if you don't kill someone outright, the second time they're yours, and if you can't kill someone after 3 respawns (even if the whole team is gathered) you're playing murky incorrectly.

You're dead wrong regarding objectives too -- Murky's area of effect damage can only be described as extremely significant, and all of the bonus damage from Slime Advantage slaps are nothing compared to dropping slimes and slimy pufferfish on people, even if you only get off 3 slimes (Q->W->E->Q->die) its a ton of damage, and if your team is there, you'll do even more damage.

>>122216573

the only real complaint is that people will go 'hurrr but muh kills' which is stupid considering they already go 'hurr muh seige damage' or something else equally stupid
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>>122214481
Hey! A faggot!
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>>122216086

>Tfw you burst someone down to a sliver of HP but someone else kills them
>People will bitch at you for having low kills

The assassin life is hard ;_;
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>>122216990
w..wow...
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>>122216959
Maybe on Infernal Shrines or BoE, but shit like Cursed Hollow or Sun Temple. I'd rather be in the fight longer.
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>>122216086
Yay! I like it. The system of bitching works.
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>Kill Abathur once inside of his fort
>Don't see any more locus in the lanes for the rest of the game

Aba please
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>>122217121

>be in the fight longer

you're not actually in the fight longer, you're just bubbling out of trouble like a faggot

man up, die, respawn, and shit out ~1200 ae damage (as a worst case) scenario

the enemy team is never going to leave the objective to kill your egg which should be super fucking close to the objective
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>>122216086
not like there's any point to it if scaling tweaks will make exp gathering largely redundant
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>>122217470
There's a nova in every QM nowadays who plays Easter during objectives.
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>>122218160
Related topic why is there no counter play against Murky other than wasting a huge amount of fuck time on trying to kill him and the egg at the same time?
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>>122218160
>searching for Murky Eggs
>find it
>remember
>snipe that faggot frog while he's splitpushing like a champ
>nuke his egg
It's a great feeling.
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>>122218571
Murky is weird. When he was released he was a God. Then they nerfed him into the ground. Then they buffed him a little to make him okay. Now he's really good again.
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Does Nova have the best Master skin in the game? The differences between it and her default skin are pretty significant. In fact I'd say it's more inline with a paid skin, and the Spectre skin (just the skin) is more like your typical master skin.
>>
>>122211598
That's not valla trait. She needs to take a talent to increase attack speed
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>>122218571
Step 1: take or have someone take a support
Step 2: support takes cleanse
Step 3: enjoy your free 4v5 win
Seriously tho, Murky is a retarded pick, an almost guaranteed loss
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>>122218805
it's kind of inherent in his kit that he's either incredible or worthless, just the whole suicide bombing splitpush thing lends him to weird balance
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>>122218850
I really like Butcher master skin. It isn't that different, but it looks really cool.
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>>122218951
Unless you're DK.
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>>122218571

the less attention you give murky the better, although you can't just ignore him and let him push a lane

killing his egg even if you don't kill murky is more damaging to the enemy team (and not because of the bigger XP gain) but you demoralize the murky and make him anxious and more likely to keep his egg in his base somewhere

>>122218951

>murky
>guaranteed loss

pic related

>>122218805

murky is very good, and easily the most fun hero to play in the entire game
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>>122218850
Black booty elf
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>>122218850
>Any master skin better than this.
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>>122218850
Speaking of Murky, I like his Master Skin because he has shorts instead of a gross diaper. And the conch.
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>>122218850
Nova's master skin would be top tier without the stupid electric pony tail bullshit
best master skin is Nazeebo's
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>>122219124
None of us is playing a tournament with a coordinated team, are we? We're talking about QM or HL

>>122219170
Excellent meme friend, keep it up!
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>>122204521
>>122204080

>>122217704
it's partially redundant with siege damage. exp is like the takedowns version of seige, rewarding you for showing up.

>>122218850
probably murky if you disregard color preferences. master nova is basically nova with a bag over her head. lacks style
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>>122219257

God she is the hottest no contest. Those jugs!
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Best master skin is Jaina.

Not overdesigned
Loses her frumpy cloak for a superior cape
Bust up

It's still not 100% perfect though, the loss of the midriff is pretty big.
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>>122219864

This guy is right.
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>>122219864
I like Leorics masterskin a lot, actually. It gets rid of the gay long hair.
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>>122219864
I love her hair
Specially brunette Jaina
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>>122219667
You also get XP murdering players.
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>>122219124
>WE WILL TAKE THE TROPHY
>EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD JUST HAVE FUN
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>>122219864
I like her parachute pants and belly.

I wonder why they did the bust up. No one else gets one. Is she supposed to look older?
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>>122220319
I really don't see that much of a difference.
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>>122219486

best murky skin is grunty friend

in b4 good goy

>>122220047

while his hair is awful, the bucket helmet is worse

naked leoric skin when?

I just want to be a skeleton walking around with a big wooden club beating people to death
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>>122220319
I think it's just a visual trick caused by the slight change to the lines running down her shirt.
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>>122217457

You gave a player PTSD, are you happy anon?
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>>122220681

I agree, I don't see any real change in the cup size or anything. Just different pattern. Someone prove me wrong.
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Guys why can't I turn auto attack off
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>There team is all at least rank 10.
>We have someone level 15.

No that's fair.
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>>122222720
Not knowing all that matters is MMR.

B R O N Z I E.
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>>122222720
>You were handsdown the best player on your team, but your teammates lost you the match
>To fix this, we're going to place you with WORSE teammates against a skill level higher than them
>What? Your teammates threw the game again? Well looks like you need to be placed with even WORSE teammates until you get matched with enough unlucky bastards such as yourself to finally pull off a win
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>>122223123
Nah, you're just shit.
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>>122223123
>>You were handsdown the best player on your team, but your teammates lost you the match
>>To fix this, we're going to place you with WORSE teammates against a skill level higher than them

I read this in Browder's voice
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>>122223565
>Your teammates ignore the objective in favor of kills while the enemy team gets it every time
>Therefor YOU are the bad player
0/10
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>>122222222
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>>122222827
He was talent gated.
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>>122224005
delete this.
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>player disconnects
>check the scoreboard
>he was on our team
every single time
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>>122224539
if someone's connection drops, it only shows their team
nice confirmation bias
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>>122220047
Leoric master skin is terrible
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>>122224539
It only tells you if your teammate dc'd. Only way you can tell if it was an enemy DC is if it displays their hero name instead of the player name
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>>122225360
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Why doesn;t Hammer look anything like an actual seige tank driver? She looks like a cartoon character 0/10 would not roll out with
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