/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #90

>>122023925
Leah skin > Idol Modoka wannabe

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First for best semen demon!

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Who /jury/ here?

>>122024191
She was fully superbed two rotations ago

>>122024191
Most people here already have her.

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Spirit stones inventory expansion when.

>>122025009
fucking this

>>122025009
Sell those 5 star commons anon

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>mfw have 4 uniques at rank 88

>>122024191
Already have her full superbed on main, but I do need to grab a few copies for my alt.

>>122025440
It's not about the amount, it's about their usefulness for you team though.

I want to punch Kiki in the face

>>122024191
>Grinding as much as I can without wasting stamina packs
>Only halfway there to my first Jury

Is the 6 ST match more efficient for boss points?

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Reposting this here. I decided I'll go with the left team since milky really wants other action bar fuckery characters in the mid which I do not have.

I was wondering what Ace should I use?(Silla, Sammy, Isilla).

An anon mentioned it might be worth going magnus>kiki so I will go for that, but if I don't go SIlla Ace is it worth it using Elaine over Silla?

>>122025589
TB, EoG, IC and STAR TEARS

>>122025759
If you aren't using silla ace, you can always just sub out against Isillia/BT.
Against lower base dr gks, Elaine is going to end up doing more.
Plus she gives a bit of crit rate.

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>>122025609
This so much

Littre pack when? God damn. It's the fucking hard life when almost half your team is s2 or legendary.

So what makes WoM better than the other two action bar uniques, Ancient Stormer and Essence of Greed?

>>122027461
Critical rate.

>>122027461
More atb recovery, receiving pass is shit, crit rate stacks for penetrating.

>>122026878
stop whaling

>>122027607
I haven't really whaled that hard in this game. I just save my crystals for the right gachas and get lucky.
Also have gotten lucky with free boxes that BB gives on updates.

>>122024119

What's it like having shit taste?

What stones are best on magnus?

>>122028130
Ask yourself

>>122027461
WoM extra action bar recovery will cover for Ancient Stormer extra speed.
And Receiving pass effect is shit.

How the fuck do u counter metatron. Like not even metabeth just meta. Shes a fucking tank if she starts with the ball

>>122029189
Just oneshot her with Neraizel :^)

>>122029276
What lol i mean metatron in mid

>>122025759
Kevin milky magnus backline is strong its been working for me

>>122029276
Cynthia works too

>>122029189
Easy with Jury.

Jury just rapes the shit out of meta

>>122029763
Cynthia is literally the best non-legendary in the game.

God damn, a hypermax Cynthia in mid is the most disgusting thing to see. Fuck thunder teams man

>>122029189
Outreflex her, Sammy, Jury and Nera can.

>>122029958
Shit i thought so. Arg i will msup jury but now i have to redo my whole team god fuck

>>122024021
Is that her only weakness?
I heard she's like a mini-Bell, so I may be getting her since I already have Kevin.

>Enter league
>Ravian
>Ravian
>Ravian
>Sharr
>Ravian

MAKE IT FUCKING STOP

>>122030285
Alright cool, so beth-jury-sammy mid? victoria support?

>>122030030
I like to think of her as a poverty Bell.

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>beat 2 sharr teams pretty easily
>they even got to shoot
>fight a beatrice team that's rainbow and Balth ace
>lose immediately in one shot
>through silla ace

Buff WW

>>122031438
>Losing to le masked snail unironically

kek

KEK

>>122024191
Not me

>>122025609
Why

>>122031438
I've been OHKO by Beatrice through Silla ace and Nerua a couple times in the past few weeks. The Galaxy WW teams are a nightmare to play against.

>>122031672
Even funnier, the beatrice team was SS while the other two were SSS

>>122031438
As a Kirin user, I don't know why they buffed that whore. She wasn't in a bad spot.

Oh wait, I forgot male characters aren't their focus of buffs.

>>122030030
Exploding chill should be 50%. Her free teamwide speed debuff is retarded.

>>122032231
And her active debuff further + increase dmg, I like to use her for PvE as mine isn't max superb.

>got a new phone
>forgot my password
>my email had a typo so I can't change it
Suffering senpai

>>122031438
Baltheon is the problem there

>>122030030

Does Cynthia work with a rainbow team?

>>122033801
good

>>122033969
Yes, she loses out slightly without Veronica and Bell's mid crit totem but shes still probably better than Dook in mid now.

>>122033969
Just make sure she has a crit totem, so you can proc Exploding Chill consistently. Alternatively, nothing is stopping you from running a 4-man thunder mid in a Rainbow team

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>>122031438
Never doubt the ass

>>122034291
>>122033969
>>122034376

This is tempting me to try Veronica/Meta/Cynthia/Beth mid.

>>122033969
I use her in one, she's fantastic.

>>122034802
Honestly Bell alone is more than enough to guarantee crits on her.

Mono thunder champs fag I watch doesn't even have a crit stone on her going for Glab/Steal/Action speed and still sits way over 100% crit with her. Its not like theres much CR in mid.

>>122035307
>Its not like theres much CR in mid


Ironically, Eden has one of the best CR skills in the game.

I kind of regret passing up on Cynthia when she was on scout a few days ago since I didn't know she was that good even in rainbow. Well I don't like her art too much so there's that to consider as well.

>>122035763
Her base is cute, and her EE is nice too

>>122035307
>Bell alone is more than enough to guarantee crits on her.
>doesn't even have a crit stone on her going for Glab/Steal/Action speed and still sits way over 100% crit with her

That's bullshit, my Cynthia with SHoT, crit stone and Bell totem barely reach 100 crit, 110 in preferred position.

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>>122036101
Zero crit stones anon, less than 5% from stone properties.

>All this Cynthia talk
I-I want to use her. Have 4 superbs right now, will get one more for pvp reward and another from the littre pack.
Planned to use them on Miho and Jin. Now I feel like using them on Cynthia who is currently sitting at 1 superb. I don't even have SHoT, but getting to 100% crit rate is easy enough with 2 crit stones. I manage to do it with Lynia, who has even worse crit rate than Cynthia.

>>122036746
>youtube screenshot

I'm pretty sure you don't know what the fuck are his stone properties.

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I'm considering investing in a Miho backline, and was wondering whether to keep Kiki in the back or move her up in Shanti's spot to replace her with Lia. Lia has better passives that both lower enemy AS and raise the backline's AS while Kiki only raises my AS but is often the main method of breaking out of the backline.

I gave the team some testing and so far the main thing holding the backline back is Miho's active skill not proccing without investment.

>thunder talk
disgusting

>>122037017
I was considering using my Nerua sups on Miho as well, but now I kind of want to try her mid like I said.

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When is BB going to introduce the marriage system so I can marry my waifu and take responsibility already?

>>122037154
not him but you can calculate from the stats anon

it's not like anything stats related is a mystery to us anymore

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>>122036746
Hmm

This is mine. In her best position she gains 10% crit rate. She has 27% crit rate from a stone + other stone bonuses.

She would have only 53.8% crit rate without any of the above.

There is no way that guy doesn't have crit rate on multiple stones or an actual stone.

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>>122037154
>I'm pretty sure you don't know what the fuck are his stone properties.
Yes anon, literally impossible to find out

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>>122036746
SHoT + 1 crit stone.

>>122037758
That Cynthia is in CM for that crit rate

Disgusting

So I've been noticing, but in Plat almost every Hiro I've fought has a WoM. Why do they always put it on Hiro instead of someone else, especially since they have other units that could really use it more.

>>122038242
And why not put it at the striker?

>>122038242
Hiro needs to crit to deal damage

>>122038242
Because it allows Hiro to crit on anyone besides 200++% BT

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>>122038032
Nope

>>122038032
I don't think CM gives critrate.

>>122037530
>>122037794
There's about a difference of 5% critrate because the guy in >>122036746 has higher power/tec/speed.

>>122038315
The numbers make no sense then. How old is this video?

>>122038475
CM gives 5% extra crit rate compared to her power position.

But yeah I noticed that other guy has Lucy/Gerold with superbs.

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>>122038480
3 weeks.

Admittedly he changed his team to this after the Magus change.

>>122038480
>The numbers make no sense then

(0.05 + ((384* 0.3) + (367* 0.8) + (301* 0.4)) * 0.001)) + 0.1 + 0.03

= 70.92%, rounded out to 70.9%

Like it was said before there's no mystery about stats at this point so I don't know how any of you can be confused unless you're just too damn lazy to find out for yourself

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>>122038315
It's only possible with max superb every managers and club bonus. For average non whale Bronze++ they'd be 10-20% crit short of reaching 70% without crit stone.

>>122038619
Yeah so its a shit example.

He needs Lucy superbs to get that crit rate without a stone or more bonuses.

>>122038779
>>122038801
>It doesn't count because I don't have the same superbs he has
Literally the dumbest fucking thing I have heard in this thread in a few weeks.

>>122039134
Are you fucking moron?

>>122039134
thunderfags always say stupid things but this wasnt the dumbest

>>122039215
>Are you fucking moron
You're waifu isn't that dumb anon

>>122038613
>CM gives 5% extra crit rate
there's no crit rate bonus for CM position
also if you really think CM offers 15% crit rate boost as a non-primary spot then I fear for the 30% crit rate boost that primary CMs get by the doubling rule for primary positions

>>122038801
>He needs Lucy superbs to get that crit rate
you could also have 5%~15% more critrate coming from secondary stats compared to the 3% that he has and achieve the same base critrate that the youtubeguy has, if you're >>122037794 or >>122037530
Hell, you already caught up by having a single crit stone

>>122038735
I should really superb my managers. But I keep seeing players I want to superb when I see other people using them and scouting them instead

>>122039474
>there's no crit rate bonus for CM position
huh, nevermind, forgot Cynthia had CAM bonus instead of CM bonus

still, five whole percent

>>122039134
>HURRR Cynthia doesn't need stones to get 70% crit rate to reach 100% with Bell
>All you need is a hypermax lucy guys!

>>122040329
Just Lucy wouldn't be enough, you need max superb Gerald and Clover/Samiel as well to reach 66% crit before stones. Each tech/speed point increase crit chance by 0.1%

>>122040329
Stop trying to backpeadal faggot. Literally the only thing I said was that some champs fag does not run crit stones on her.

You are just shitposting at this point because you don't want to admit you were wrong.

>>122040329
you lose 7% crit rate by not having full superb lucy/gerold vs. having no superb at all on them

I'm pretty sure you could cover for that

>>122040749
That isn't the point

The original fucktard said you didn't need stones or any shit to do it.

>>122041153
you gotta be calm and learn to adapt anon

you're gonna have people speaking like everyone has max superb +120 everything because they're too used to seeing their team and everyone they fight be like that

then you have the people who haven't even EE'd their striker whose baseline when talking about characters is their base stat before anything else attached

>>122041451
Having +120 hypermax unit is one thing.

Expecting all their managers to be hypermax is another.

Does Champs league have a wall of higher opponents like Diamond after 2k and 2.1k?

should i scout raklet?

my backline is
kiki - magnus - kei - anael - mikael

>>122042912
>no nerua

>>122043101
switch between nerua and magnus as needed when terranox blade does or doesn't show up.

>>122043101
yea i know i really need her

i've got like 6k gp sitting so i think raklet would be fine

>>122043390
Raklet is better than Nerua when not against light/ww. more crit and gives hp. I've been looking to scout her now that I actually can use her, but she refuses to show up now. It's nonsense.

>>122043521
CAR is important anon

>>122043635
CAR is fucking trash anon

>>122043635
It's only necessary for attackers and against high reflex fronts.
When you have at least 1 reflex totem and Anael as your escape from backline, 20% car doesn't mean shit.

>>122043990
this really.

Plus if nerua is your only CAR totem then it doesn't really matter much.

>>122043853
nice try, Nerafag

>>122043990
its 30%, Anael may not be stolen from but others will, with 55% CAR I was stolen from often somehow

>>122044363
That's because anything below 100% is pretty shit and ineffective.
When they fix sub 100 car to actually be useful, then it will be more worth stacking, but if you can't hit 100% on important units, it barely matters.

>>122044537
Nice try Ravianfag, my Yuri with 82% CR from totems and 1 CR stone hasn't been stolen from or counterattacked in 3 months.

>>122044537
>100%
ever since I went from 55% to 85% I havent been countered

>tfw my 88% CAR Khirel got CA'd today

I just wish they swapped one red slot for a dark so he can be godtier like he's supposed to be.

>>122044795
>Ravian
That's fine, I'll just keep laughing when your 80% car Nerua's/attackers keep losing the ball to my Elaine because her 1k+ reflex advantage makes sub 100 car useless.

Holy shit I almost lost to a William.
>His Elaine was stealing every time my backline would try to penetrate her
>His Nari too
Good thing he never did crit, my BT survived 4 or 5 shoots and then I managed to kill his 2,7k hp Kei.

>>122045328
What was your backline car? This is good timing.

>>122045157
Legenderies even though they're legends cant be allowed to be broken

>>122045576
30% because of Nerua

>>122045157
>like he's supposed to be.
i dont think it should be like that
he already has the best totem anon

Which are the best mid line totems?
I'm actually using Lynia and though she is good I think I could use something else along.

Reminder that Shanti is getting her EE soon.

>>122047118
duke

Is Uriel still good guys?

>>122047118
Bell, Metatron, Beth, Duke :^)

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>four in a row
>start a new tournament and get another nerua ace user
i want off this ride

>>122048173
Thunder cancer is real, no matter how mach those fags try to deny it.

>>122048173
>saviorsofthunde 2 matches in a row for the last 2
It's truly horrific.

>>122048173

please use kiki's EE skin for the love of god

>>122048595
He cant help it if he has shit taste anon. He's getting his punishment from the thundercancer for it.

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>>122048284
>>122048371
the only good thing about it is that i like the minerva BGM

>>122048595
funny you should mention that, i got pic related afterwards

>>122047358
That is not Ronald. WW EE and Buffs is after Dark.

>>122048595
>Mutant Kiki over base Kiki
Nice shit taste

>>122048595
>>122050936
>kiki at all

Nice shit taste

>>122051176
>not liking 2nd best cat
kys

Who has the highest crit damage with an ideal setup? I thought that was supposed to be William's thing but I've been seeing Leventors with over 200% crit damage which is pretty insane when you add the fact that he has crazy penetration and crit chance to go with it.

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How to improve team?

>tfw one week more to get updates
>tfw they'll be shitty
>tfw ded game

>>122052081
Get penguins and swap beatrice and hilde's positions

>>122052081
you have meta, you've already won

>>122052742
Excuse me for being retarded, but are penguins actually good for something other than rapid EXP gain?

>>122052081
Post a smaller resolution first off.
>No striker in front
>Striker in mid
>No gk
>Only plausible gk is not in gk spot
>No assist
>No levels
Fix all of those things.

>>122053117

Crystal penguin matches also give a bunch of gold and you have no reason to not have all your players at max level.

>>122053117
You sell them.

>>122049336
It's BigKim himself

>>122052081
add more thunder.

> Cruising through bronze matches
> Should have started this a long time ago
> Get rekt in Semi's vs a fully STd team

Fuck me. At least I can get a couple wins here, unlike all the S teams I see in the arena.

Idk why I chose to super train lynia over cynthia last month, cynthia puts in so much more work

>>122057119
what's your rank/ta?

you probably fucked up your rank

>>122057119

Why are you still in bronze when you're facing S-ranked teams in arena?

or do you mean bronze+++

>>122057297
Lynia's lynias are better

>>122057313
No, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I did. Farmed for a max spu Kri'veya early on. 74/7138

>>122057358
Figured I'd try League for the first time, so Bronze is right. I didn't even know that there was an arena/league toggle up top til earlier this week.

>>122057465
they both look shit though

>>122057635
Lynia looks delicious though

>>122059592
If you think shit looks delicious, sure

>>122060701
But i don't think Anael looks delicious

>>122061065
That's exactly why you have shit taste.

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>>122061065
How could you have such shit taste?

Any 4*s I should be keeping besides Eden and Valkia?

Any non-mentors I should scout regardless of team?

How do I make silla not a free penetrate with 5 hp?

I have some max level 4*s? Should I ST them and then use them as ST fodder for my Jheet?

>>122062449
Don't put skill points in her active so the AI won't use it in PvP. If that doesn't work then I don't know.

Who should I invest in between Isillia or BT?
I somehow have them both with 4 superbed.

>>122063194
Isillia.

Then you have a top tier gk for pvp AND pve instead of just being top tier at pvp like BT

All I wanna know is who blade loves so much she got a restraining order from them

>>122063194
I went with Isillia and I don't regret it yet.

I have a similar question: Miho or Black Ivy? I have enough to super train one of them atm. Neither has any superbs.

>>122063994

Miho. Broken as fuck and once she gets nerfed you'll be able to transfer the superbs to someone else.

>>122063994
Miho no contest.
I mean its been months since she came out and we barely ever seen her in league. When compare to Miho at least

>>122064202
>>122064289
Doesn't miho only get broken after ancient stormer?

What if you dont have that?

>>122064436

I think Earth's Cry + 2 thunder penetration stone is a more reliable set up, due to how fragile Miho is, she will most like end up perma blocking anyways after 1-2 hit. Earth's Cry's DR let her get more hit in while maintaining the 25% action bar recovery.

Does counterattack resistance help when you have the ball and someone is stealing from you to prevent the reflex steals, or does counterattack resistance only apply when you're penetrating?

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>>122064202
>>122064289
OK, I'll go with the fluffy tail. Thanks.

Relatedly, TouchFluffyTail has a slot open if anyone wants to apply.

>>122064436
I don't have it either, unfortunately, so I'll just be giving her protection of mother earth until I get something better.

>>122065029

Both.

>>122065146

Ah, so basically mandatory for low reflex attackers then, both so they don't get counterattacked when they penetrate and don't lose the ball when stolen on when they're holding the ball.

Thanks.

>>122065368
Mandatory for back lines cause of all the reflexes many units have

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Speaking of Miho

Why is her art so S H I T

MW showed up in scouts. Should I mspu her?

>>122066219
If you're gonna use her right, yes

>>122065869
I think it's less the art quality being bad in itself, and more her legs being too skinny for most people's taste.

That aside, I don't see anything wrong with her face. Is it the expression or something?

>>122066219

Only if you got Kevin sitting in your benches ready to roll. His damage reduction totem and quick start + MW Musical Start and reduced damage with ball makes her a terror

Does anyone else experience a powerful, near compulsory pull to push the scout button when they're low on gold?

Like i've pretty much dedicated myself to spending my gold on uniques and when Im hitting that million mark its the easiest thing in the world to spend my gold on stones.

But when Im at 200, 300k and I see that scout button I get an incomprehensible urge to spend it all away. Im even at the point where I have no clue what I would even want to scout besides superbs I have so many units. But every time that scout button still fucking calls out to me.

I cant possibly be the only one who experiences this.

>>122066412
The face is great, it's a unique style which is actually done properly.

I'm so fucking mad about people getting her from premium tickets. I spent my entire reserve (5k crystals) and have a 5 sup shosho waiting for her, but instead I got 4 Lukas, 3 Milky Ways and 2 Jheets.

>>122069528
Yes, I've gone broke so many times. Also, when powering up stones.

>>122066412
She is ugly as fuck

>>122069528

I keep thinking to myself that I'll stop refreshing scout but somehow or another I always end up spending at least 150k everyday on it, which I hate.

Today though I managed to save up aroudn 400k which is a huge achievement for me and I only refreshed scout with gold 5 times. I'm learning to suppress the urge to press the button and hopefully I can focus on saving gold for uniques now.

>>122069583
>mfw fully expected not to get her because the S2 units hate me
>mfw got her in my first 10+1

I feel like people like you deserve her more than me. Sucks you didn't even get more S2 units.

I feel like the other boosted units are there purely to cockblock people from accidentally getting the other S2 units with their 10 draws.

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>>122069583

I like her too. I think her art is easily one of the better one.

Benched Magnus for her, now she's part of my Milky/Kevin backline.

>>122069964
How does she work in that line? Is she really broken? On a scale of old milky to old eliane how would you rate her?

>>122070050

She's mainly there to drain spirit and action bar to let Milky act even more often and for her active, to revive dead players.

Definitely not pre nerf Milky tier, she has 25% less overall stats in almost every category than Milky, even with Earth's Cry she can pull her near infinite for 3-4 times at most before leader AI kicks in.

>>122070209
she is absolutely prenerf milky tier if you invest in her

>>122070476

I'm slowly working on +15'ing the her double Thunder Penetration stone.

We'll see how it turns out.

>>122070476
I wish I could see her in action

Its hard to see why people are calling her broken when mine barley drains a sliver of a sliver of action bar off the enemy team's frontline.

>>122070678

I don't think she's as good as Milky at being fast and constantly ramming into the enemy line. But she offers more than just that.

Her active heal is really useful, she generate her own spirit, and her action bar/spirit drain help your other character too, and it prevents the enemy from use their active pass/shoot for a while.

I would call her broken in that she can do too much, rather than being too good at a single thing.

>8.3k hp Jin in colo champion match

Damn and that's only at lv.91, how high does his hp end up at higher levels?

>>122070476
she already fails at being prenerf Milky tier by starting at 30 action bar with Kevin instead of 80 like Milky did and lacking the 60% DR

you also need SIX action speed stones for Miho's base stats + lack of the speed buff to catch up to Milky's speed when she has full three speed stacks on

Best stones for Milky?

>>122072981

I run

Metatron's Will
WW Reflex
Thunder Defense
Ardor Reflex

Who is best MAN and why is it Leventor?

what happens when you complete the season achievements?

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>>122073861
You mispelled Avnore

>>122073861
our guy hiro

>>122074227
You get them. What the fuck else is supposed to happen?

>tfw 27hp milky steals the ball back from 174hp virgil in front line
feels good desu senpai

>>122074227
You wait 2 weeks until they reset.

ded thread :(

>>122077064
Dead game, friend.

>>122077064
Well, there's literally nothing to talk about atm.

Thanks bi-weekly updates.

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BEATRICE IS CUTE! I WANT BEATRICE TO HUG ME GENTLY!

>>122077450
Best voice
Best base art
Best striker

Skin when? Replace Honorable Vow to Sundering Wind?

>>122061383
Forward/long passer.
Mira if you don't have Miho.
Rivals for chain.

>>122078084
>buttrice
>best striker
>not based sharr

>Lose to a Ravian + Thunderslut mid team
>Still get promoted to Bronze+

How do I deal with Ravian for next season on my way to Bronze++. My Virgil + Anael cheese isn't going to work again until I get some superbs.

Who is the Sakuya of SS?

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>>122079538
you just answered your own question. team placement and formations can only take you so far

>>122079561
probably cynthia

>>122079561
Ronald backline

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>>122079561
There is actually one guy that fits the description of being arrogant and able to stop time.

>>122080793
Kirin a shit

A big shit

>>122080793
how many thunderfags have you slain to have bell fall head over heels for you?

>full hp leah tries to penetrate a 31hp player
>gets rekt
why does leah suck so much?

>>122081861
Because she's fat.

>>122081861
Why are you interest in her since she has skin?

>>122082451
Now in english, please.

I hope when Milky finally gets her EE, I can use her without Kevin.

Miho hype must be in PVE or lowtier pvp

Are the blackhole swirlies only +4 to a stat? I thought they're more valuable than that

>>122086190
The most important thing is not the +4, it is the 100%. You usually need a few swirlies to get 100% and they may only add +1.

I have 500 minion points. Do I have a chance to get Jury at all or should I just get the Kuma?

>>122085958
There's a few galaxy whales who have her.
She is ridiculous, but not pre-nerf Milky tier.

>>122088156
look at the schedule

>>122088156
There's still 10 days 2 hours left to get her.

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When are they going to fix this shit?

Will Bora become great again after Sharr gets nerfed?

>>122090927
No, because Beatrice and Leventor will leave her in the shadows

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>>122090927
>Bora
>ever become good

loving

every

laugh

>>122090927
Didn't you hear? Sharr is shit now Vitos is better than her. Hes also better than Ravian and you should run him with Anael ace.

As much as we call each other retarded bronzies its always funny to get linked reddits retarded opinions.

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>>122091060
no bully plz ;_;

>>122091568
>talk about vitos being stealthy op
>reddit caught up
at least there's less faggots looking for internet points here.

What the fuck is this I hear about 7* players in old soccer spirits forums. 7* players were a thing?

>>122092068
It was evolution. a 5* card would evolve into a 6* and then extreme evolve into a 7*. There was no ST at the time.

>>122091636
Bora cutest SS girl too bad literally every other striker is better than her

>>122092164
ST was to increase max level.
Everyone used to have a max level of 50. I used a lvl 50 rize back then. ST increases this to 60.

>>122092242
There was no ST at all. Mera only use was for ww evolution, and no use at all for trash 5*s.

>>122092172
She's fucked now with Magnus use on the rise. She was briefly okay after her buffs, but with a 30% damage penalty she's finished.

>>122094616
I just want her to be good because waifu. I keep getting thunder players and have team built around Leventor, but I didn't choose the thunderfag life. It chose me.

So how good is Beatrice as a striker now that Nerua isn't everywhere anymore?
I haven't come across many good Beatrice in Diamond, but Ihear about Beatrice in Champs/Galaxy being brutal.

>>122095978
Beatrice have always been good, even before the 15% crit buff.

>>122096071
I have Mspu Sho Sho Mk2, is it better to use it on Sharr or keep Buttrice?

>>122088897
Which one is the real hair color

>>122096071
Worth scouting a superb for then?
It's not like I'll come across other players I desperately want in scout anytime soon.
And would she work in a Silla/Luka line? I know she misses out the Neraizel team buff, but Luka more than makes up for the loss of crit rate anyway.

>>122091568
Vitos is good though you faggot

>>122096141
Sharr is a little better right now but with Magnus on the rise and Nerua numbers Butt and Sharr will be even.

>>122096246
Yes.

>>122096572
Yes but not because some retard plays him on manual and one shots jin with the 25% increased stats

>>122095978
By brutal, do you mean brutally good or brutally shit?

I swapped from Ravian to her since I have Baltheon.. I hope I don't regret this.

>>122096157
White. The brown just looks shit. It bothers me.

>>122097182
Look at the galaxy rankings.
Plenty of Beatrice/WW aces there. And they do a crapton of damage.

>>122097979
Oh wow, I had no idea. Time to work on my shitty ww/dark team without BT or Jin.

Should I scout meras?

>>122099487
Yes, always scout gate keepers when they show up.

>>122099487
>>122099607
Except for Neris. Fuck those guys.

Should I just use yuri top for hiro I feel like the damage boost would be better than using Iggy right now.

>>122100049
>except Neris
Scout Neris too, they are good money sources. Especially with a Maya and Mave max superb.

>>122099607
Really, people scout Mera? Now that you can easily fuse 4*s together for ST fodder 150 GP for a single 3* mera seems like a huge waste GP.

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>>122100220
Manual control, sure.

>>122100542
no point in scouting 3* neris since you can get so much of them easily and evolving them is a waste

>>122100835
There is no such thing as too much gold.

>>122100960
thats not the point, it costs 100k to evolve a 3* and another 120k for a 5*, thats 220k gone from just evolving

>>122101007
Yeah better to just sell the 3* Neris, right? Retard

>>122101068
you can just hold onto them

>>122101007

It costs 320k gold and 195 GP to make a 6* neris which sells for 500k at 0% selling bonus so you're effectively trading 195 GP for 180k gold at minimum. Whether or not you think that's worth it is up to you but I personally think it's a fairly good deal since I have gold-selling managers and can easily make that 195 GP in a day.

>>122101007
I never evolve the 3 stars, I just hold on to them until I get 5*s from seasonal achievements and then evolve it into a 6*. Then profit.

>>122100730
Lynia has the same issue my god, it like she thinks she's sharr

>>122101007
I see that you have no idea how investing works.

>>122101247
It's not unless you have the managers or only need a couple more Neris' to finish a 6*. When gold goes on sale you can get a million gold for 240 crystals. You typically get around 200 GP for a 300 crystal roll. 195GP is not worth 180k gold.

>>122101482
>180k

u fuken wot

>>122101247
Anyone can easily get a full superb maya from friendship draws, that is already 20% which means 280k gold for 195 GP, and if it is anyone like me, who invested in a full superb Mave, it goes up to 430K gold for 195 GP.

>>122101482
Tell me how do you buy gold with GP that is not with Neris.

>>122101482
>When gold goes on sale you can get a million gold for 240 crystals. You typically get around 200 GP for a 300 crystal roll.
How is that relevant in any way?

>>122101668
Shop>buy gold

>>122101735
Nigga is you stupid?

>>122101686
The value of what GP is worth is relevant. If you're at the point where don't need the scout anything else, go ahead and trade it for some gold. Most people aren't at that point.

>>122101821
No nigga are you stupid?

>>122101896
>Shop>buy gold
He said with GP, not crystals

>>122101849
You just forgot that the main deal with a crystal roll is not the GP. GP is just a bonus, and Neris is the only way to exchange it for gold at a very good price.

>Have enough stones ready for a combination
>Don't know whether to combine now or prepare 5 more in case I'm really disappointed with my first one
So, should I go for despair or double despair?

>>122102789
Get that ParadiseOfBlazeEmcompassingTear out of the way first.

>>122102968
>Encompassing
Rank 100 reward. It still hurts.

Going for a WW combo, since 3/4 stones would be good for me. Already have a Prey's so I don't want another.
Already had some good Ardor/Light combos and I only really need one stone each from all other elements so chances of disappointment are high.

>>122103467
Enjoy your second Prey, it's pretty nice on Mira in Colo.

>>122103467

>tfw got WoM as welfare unique from challenge mode

It's my only unique so far but it's pretty damn useful. Sucks that I can only use it in pve though since I don't want to pay 21k everytime I want to use it on another unit

>>122103740
Please god no. And I don't use Mira. Already have Miho.
Will stick it on Sammy or Verister if I get it though ;_;

>>122104125
I got WoM from challenge too and loving it. Plus an Ermaltion from a light combination. So any further combinations I'd be doing would be for more WoM or TW. Still not great odds.

Who do you have your WoM on?
Mine's on Beth mainly for colo, pretty awesome on her. Not so useful for pvp on Beth but again too costly to change over just for a few arena games.

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>>122104125
>tfw double Blaze from challenge/rank 100

fuck all of you, may all your stones are plagued with defense and steal stats

>>122104864

Using mine on Shu for colo and it's fun as hell

>>122105187
Is that you, Glabanon?

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Alright, there is something seriously wrong with this fucking stone.

>>122105716
>only x2.2
There is something wrong with you.

>>122107005
2.2x from 12 -> 13 is a lot

>>122107467
>x2.2 from 12 ->
>a lot
no its not

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Some interesting stat from Mechisao, a record of all the teams he faced from 2200+.

He also did the same thing last reason, so there is a frame of reference.

The sample size isn't the biggest since it is only one person's data.

>>122107776
Yes it is unless your luck is utterly shit. x2 -> x3+ is only common for 14 -> 15

>>122107823

>60.55% metatron

Good thing she's getting nerfed because she's broken as fuck, r-right?

>>122107823
> 3.Hiro
And bronzekeks in /ssg/ said he was bad. Just more proof people here are clueless.

>>122107823
I expect next season Sharr would be getting the first place for strikers.
Also
>Silla ace 31.49%
totally balanced :^)

>>122108423
Unless you're painfully new, you should already know that 80% of /ssg/ posts are just memes and funpostingtrash.

>>122108491
More like everyone switching to rainbow teams and also using Silla ace to not get OHKO by all the powerhouse strikers out there.
Stop complaining, good attackers and actual OP units like Cynthia can wreck other units through Silla ace.

>>122109481
Silla isn't balanced. Her ace does need to be nerfed.

>>122109691
>waaaaaaaaaah my sharr can't OHKO ;_;
Shut up

>>122109691
I agree.

Magnus is also not balanced and needs to be nerfed.

>>122109691
>>122109951
>btw i use Nerua ace (^:
Fucking thunderfags, truly the worst scum.

>>122109918
I don't use Sharr.

Silla, Veris and Isillia ace all need to be nerfed. They are the reason mono teams can't exist outside of two elements and even then those aces are still weaker.

>>122109951
But he did get nerfed, which is why he's up for recall :^)

>>122109918
>>122109951
>>122110114
Shut up, Wugue

>>122110114
Nothing wrong with nerua ace. Magnus however breaks the game. WWfags are truly the word scum

>>122110127
>Blaming rainbow aces for dark/ardor having plenty of shit units and light having no proper frontline
Literally what the fuck anon. They removed the mono draw tab a while ago which should have been enough to tell you not to be a mono team autist.

>>122107823

Interesting that Beatrice dropped to 5th place after a buff, I guess the Elaine nerf hurt too much.

>the most popular WW ace is Beatrice, at 2.42%

>He only faced a single Vonchi, Vitos, and Bora in Champ+.

Feels good using a hipster striker.

Here is the complete spreadsheet for anyone that cares,

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rbUZYrGO_iLmAMmJvqMy2bpTJVw7_97Gj2ogaUXAK84/edit#gid=1272255237

>>122110425
I'm not blaming them you moron

Rainbow aces should not be better than literally any other ace.

That is shit

>>122111013
I Agree.

Same scenario with Magnus. Magnus shouldn't be so much better than the other elemental DR totems.

>>122111317
They need to look over them all.

Nerua was ridiculous so they made one of her totem thunder only

Magnus might get his totem to be WW only.

>>122111013
>Bawww I can't OHKO Kei
You'll understand why people use Silla ace once you get out of Bronze and see the damage that endgame strikers put out.

Look at the videos in the spreadsheet here >>122110609 for an idea.

>>122111407

Nerua had 3 totem, Magnus only has 2, same as Nerua post nerf.

Even if they made it WW only, that faggot won't stop crying, because his main problem is that his Blade can't kill Jin.

>>122110127
The issue I have with Silla ace personally is that it encourages a stagnant meta and further encourages legend stacking. It doesn't allow for variety, where it becomes a case of "Why use anything else." It's not healthy for the game to rely on just one Ace being way better than everything else.

>>122111508
With Nerua, Buttrice and hiro were still viable. Magnus has made thunder's only non legendary striker useless and has literally broken the game for one of the elements.

It is absolute bullshit.

falseflagging general

>>122111508
Blade can kill Jin still. Just takes a little more effort.

I do agree they need to fix colo if they're going to have magnus on every floor with a Jin or BT though.

Healing 30% was a kick in the nuts for thunder already.

>>122111658

Then the solution is to buff Blade, not to fucking nerf Magnus, when Magnu's skill set is about on par with Nerua.

Or give Griffith an EE.

>>122111631
Silla ace has been a problem since last year.

I don't get how instead of re balancing it or changing it they instead buff it, give it to someone else and then make a higher reduction one on a GK that heals.

>>122111658
That's a problem with Thunder only having one non-legend EE striker, not Magnus. Uriel, Latios, and Kirin got fucked by Nerua being everywhere and I didn't hear Thunderfags saying that was unfair in any way. Bora is also now uber trash with Magnus popping up more often.

But lets all shed a tear for blade users.

>>122111784
Spoken like a true retarded WW fag. Buffing blade will make no difference since magnus will still make her useless.

>>122111784
Griffith wont help in Colo and fuck off with that shit.

>>122111928

>Spoken like a true retarded WW fag

I don't run WW.

>Buffing blade will make no difference since magnus will still make her useless.

Then its time to use another striker or cough up the money for Leventor. There is absolutely nothing about Magnus' skill set that is out of line.

>>122111925
>and I didn't hear Thunderfags saying that was unfair in any way
Hmmm where have I seen that. Oh right.
>pre-healing nerf: no one uses Ravian
>post-healing nerf: muh cancer
oh look it's just like entire /ssg/ population.

>>122111925
Not one of those strikers had to deal with

Nerua + GK that is strong against them

Jin is the most used GK in high level PVP and BT is seen there too though not as much.

That is a 60% reduction compared to the 30% light/WW has to "suffer" through

In colo this is even worse since Jin heals 30% on shot and BT heals 15% on shot.

Latios and Uriel has OTHER problems though and I agree they need to be buffed. I wouldn't mind seeing Kirin get something too since beatrice did.

I'm hoping Beatrice and Vitos getting buffed means they are slowly looking at all the older strikers.

>>122111925
No one uses shit like Uriel,latios,kirin and bora. So its obvious that no ones complains. Besides those elements have far better strikers (butt,hiro,sharr). Thunder has no viable alternatives and Magnus has made our only striker useless.

BB is alienating 30% of the userbase with these ridiculous changes.

>thunderfag tears
>thunderfags falseflagging as WW players
Hilarious, but it's time to stop.

>>122112192
Oh did I forget to say the only viable alternative to Blade is a legendary striker?

Light has Hiro
WW has Beatrice
Ardor has Sharr

All three power strikers and non legendary.

>>122112146
> Dyslexia - The post

>>122112265

>No one uses shit like Uriel,latios,kirin and bora

Fuck you, I do.

I just don't cry like a baby about it.

>>122111835
It needs to be revamped majorly. None of the other aces do as much as Silla ace. Perhaps make it apply to only certain types of players or something.

>>122112326
Shut up sharrfaggot

>>122112438
Bora is fine for pvp
Latios is actually fine if you build her crit damage/rate

Uriel gimmick can work but she needs buffs

Kirin is strong too and can work but he needs some slight buff.

>>122112438
>I just don't cry like a baby about it
>makes a post crying about it.
Topkuckers

>>122112265
>No one uses shit like Uriel
>As my +120 ST Max Superb Uriel sits in the box

Unrestricted Recall for 100 Dimension stones when Bigball? ;_;

>>122112192
>30% light/WW has to "suffer"
Yeah sure, 30% for light against monothunder cancer. Faggot

>>122112265
Oh, I forgot I can just move my powerups to a new striker for free. Wait no, I have to burn 5 litres/GP on dupes for a backup striker just like Thunder does now. Deal with it like others had to or move on. Nerua on thunder teams is still stronger than Magnus on WW teams. If he needs a nerf then Nerua needs more as well.

Better yet just remove or rebalance the elemental DR skills as they're quite clearly too strong against utility strikers.

What units do Uriel need to be a viable striker with WoM. Milk and Kevin I presume?

>>122112749
>Monothunder

Yeah I'm sure their awesome GKs are holding Hiro back thanks to Nerua.

>>122112265
>No one uses shit like Uriel,latios,kirin and bora
Le ebin /ssg/ memepost

>>122112807
Depends if she rams into people Kevin otherwise Jeu and Milky.

>>122112749

>b-but thunder GK is weaker than Jin

It is a compromise from having the most cancerous mid line in the game and being the strongest mono team. Just like how WW have have a weak mid line and average front line, and mono WW usage has dropped significantly from its peak, while Jin is used off color on rainbows with Silla ace.

>>122112781
>burn 5 litres/GP on dupes for a backup striker just like Thunder does now
You're completely missing the point retard. Thunder doesn't have a backup striker stupid.Also Nerua doesn't make an element useless in both Pvp and colo retard.

Magnus is making thunder absolutely useless in both.

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It's time.

>>122113005
>thunder
>most cancerous mid line
Stop making shit up WW fags

>>122113016

>Magnus is making thunder absolutely useless in both.

Only because your team is trash. Mono thunder is the most used mono team in champ+ by far, by a very, very big margin.

>>122113005
Most cancerous mid line belongs to Light/Dark anon.

Or do you ignore Valky, Meta, Duke

>>122113070
I wish you a terannox.

>>122113016
>Using same element backup striker
That's not how it works. You use someone who completely bypasses the damage reduction. If I see monothunder or nerua + BT/Isilla I'm not going to bench my Uriel and pull out fucking Hiro.

>>122113123
Action Speed and IC almost completely renders MetaBeth useless.