/dng/ - Dueling Network General

#1980 btw. Forgot to put in post

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>unusued teks
I'm here to ensure the infernoid otk

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>tfw vorcia didn't kill himself yet

>>122012356
Who cares, it's not like it would see play anyway, with or without the errata

>>122012450
>always milled all 3 off of Reasoning/Gate
no you aren't

>>122012630
>Call of Darkness gets an errata for no reason
>A card that has been banned for a decade can't get one just to clean up the list

>>122012450
wot the FUK is with her hand

>>122012429
#2000 soon
We're gonna need a new /dng/comic.

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BAN ROYAL MAGICAL LIBRARY AND UNBAN MEEEEEEEE

>>122012752
CoD was erratad because we're getting a new PSCT word

>>122012802
>Contrary to the art, a "butterfly dagger" (more commonly called a "butterfly knife") is actually a balisong, a type of folding knife, not a knife with a butterfly on it.
Good work yugioh wiki

>>122012752
next list can see reborn and DMoC back

>>122012776
girly too busy with school, to give us a quality one at least

>>122012802
>infinite attack Magical Marionette
No thanks

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>>122012802
back in the playground days I would combo Dagger with pic related because bitches don't know missing the timing exists

>>122013087
That wouldn't work even if missing the timing wasn't a thing since Sprite only sends, not destroys.

>>122013178
8 year olds don't understand that either

>>122013087
>cheating at yugioh as a kid
Almost as bad as the kids who summoned Relinquished without ritual.

>>122012802
>infinite life
Weeeee

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>>122012326
A nice reminder that /dng/ is always wrong about what deck can become meta and can't tell what konami is pushing even if it's right in their face.

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>>122013259
>Kozmos
>Good
They're just the new Fire Fists.

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>>122013259
/dng/ was right about Super Quantums being shit though.

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>>122012802
>>122013239
We already have a new butterfly dagger - elma, it's called flint.

>>122013359
If DN calls every deck shit they're going to be right at least part of the time.

>>122013359

yeah, right after several threads saying non-stop that Super Quantums are good

>tfw you subtly cheat against a no synchro/xyz/etc fag in traditional and they don't realize it

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I told you to stock up on those Escapes as a secret kozmeme tech.

>>122013342
Wasn't Hoban the one who said that linear strategies were better than nonlinear ones in Dragon Ruler format?

>>122013259
jesus christ how horrifying

>>122013787
Yup, then again Hoban is a clown.

>>122013259
Additionally a friendly reminder that /dng/ has never contributed anything to the TCG metagame.

>>122013613
When?

>>122013259
Friendly reminder that /dng/ tried to take credit for the Igknight Meme Beetle combo that never worked in the first place

>Gorror's tourney no longer allows BOSH/DOCS imports

fug

>>122013971
Fuck you I invented the Saffira build that topped like twice in 2014.

Petdeck tourney when?

>>122013787
He meant that linear strategies are typically more powerful whereas non linear strategies are both more fun to play, face, and reflect better overall game design.

Or maybe I'm giving Hoban way too much credit.

What is the best deck right now?

>>122014424
Circus

>>122014135
His tourneys have always been TCG only though
>>122014298
Never because niggas won't join

>>122014339
He said that nonlinear strategies are better due to their greater consistency, and that options didn't matter if your deck has just one strong play it can spam over and over with high consistency.

>>122014505
Yeah but it said earlier DOCS/BOSH allowed

And now it doesn't and my Dracospecters are unusuable

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>R3
>atk 1800 def 2800
>WATER, machine
>cannot attack without xyz material
>detach a material and destroy an ST
>can only activate during opponent's turn if one of the materials is blue layer
>OPT attach a mecha pilot from field or hand as material

So...it's garbage right?

What's the strongest waifu deck currently?

>>122014782
It's a tournament for the new TCG format so I'm pretty sure that it never allowed BOSH or OCG shit

>>122014905
Some traptrix variation I imagine

>>122014905
Arguably Madolche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDO-A96jZM
>d-dog fighter is b-bad!!!!1!1!!!

>>122014853
>Upgraded Alucard with immense DEF

Nah, it's alright. Won't save SQMPs, but is a good generic R3.

>>122015118
>3rd place
Am I supposed to be impressed or something?

>>122014470
what?

>>122015227
What's the best you've ever done at a 1000-person YCS?

>>122014853
>potentially lets r4 spam helmet decks pop stygian dirge

pls no

>>122015208
What

>>122015209
Is there even a better generic r3?

>>122014853
So the entire selling point of Wing Raiders is the R3 and R4 SQMBs as splashable Xyz for BA and EMEm, right?

>>122014090
When Dark Destroyer was confirmed to summon Level 7s and below, the first day of the YCS, and when the Top 4 of San Jose was confirmed to be just Kozmemes.

>>122015674
Nightmare Shark is pretty dank, personally. Other than that, I doubt it.

everyone will call the deck PePe, nobody will call it anything clunky like PPPM and theyre not gonna weeb out and call it EMEm

get fucked dng, as usual

>>122015674
It's pretty much the best given the current meta. Would not surprise me if it's the top dollar card of the set.

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>Watching AZNeyes x Billy Brake hentai on youtube
>accidentally look at the comment section
This shouldn't have made me smile.

>/dng/ isn't as bad as /feg/

Feels good, I think.
Also they're literally called feg. Are they all gay lmao?

>>122016061
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as PePe, is in fact, Dracos/PePe, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Dracos plus PePe. PePe is not a deck unto itself, but rather another incredibly expensive component of a fully functioning Dracos/PePe deck made useful by the Dracos effects, synchros, spell cards, and vital searching abilities comprising a full competitive deck as defined by the OCG.

>>122016110
so $20 dollars? no R3s are currently seeing play

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>You will never be autistic enough to go to other generals and entirely different boards and tell them to shitpost in your general

>>122016116
at least /feg/ doesn't allow trips

>>122016316
Am I going to have to filter this now?

>>122016316
>>122016494
Many duelists run a modified version of the Dracos deck every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Dracos which is widely used today is often called "PePe", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Dracos deck, developed by the Overlords. There really is a PePe, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the deck they use.

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Occasional reminder that tops did nothing wrong.

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>>122016414
>You will NEVER go to other generals and entirely different boards and spread your autsim

>>122016361
Well the set as a whole is utter shit, so yeah $20 sounds like top value.

>>122016061
Just call it circus for fucks sake, you won't sound like a seen and you won't sound like some neckbeard memer and his troubling obsession with pepe

Can't we just compromise and call it [Pe]rformages and [en]termates?

>>122017357
Are you from japan faggot? we have nothing called entermates. PePe has already caught on because it makes SENSE.

>>122013382

gib decklist

So are people using 3x Kaiju or is anyone using the 1, 2, 3 method?

>>122017628
I call it Circus Act.

>>122018067
I don't give a FUCK what you call your shitty decks

>>122017357
>Wanting to play peen
fag

>>122017779
What variant of Kaijus? The ratios differ, though it's never 3 of each.

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Post opening hands

>>122018181
And that's how it should be.

>>122018761
Opening hands

>>122018761
opening hands
>Mixed languages
Disgusting

>>122018759
I only play Gamer Seal, Dogranaway and Edge Lord. going to try 2Sticky, 2Seal, and 3 Dogs this time in Yosenju Kai.

>>122018761
Opening hand.
That's all I can post, you never post when I'm free to take a picture of my decks.

>>122015693
>can't chain their effects during the opponent's turn without their quantum pilot equipped

I dunno, maybe not.

>>122019025
Call it KaiSenju, it sounds better. That sounds good, mind sharing your build? I might try the Yosenju build after I finish KaiDolls IRL.

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>>122016418
>disallowing a feature of the site made exactly for the purpose of /vg/

>/feg/ finally removed
Jesus what a clusterfuck
>>122019817
>defending tripfagging

>phantom beasts don't even get a super hype boss monster in SPWR and have dark rebellion dragon piggybacking on them instead

>>122019817
Thats not true, though.

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>>122019325
I don't know that many Kaisenju decks vary but this is what I'm trying now.

>>122020543
swear that Starlight road was Huge Revolution is Over, I think I was thinking about Malefic Kaiju when I added it.

>>122020103
>phantom beasts

Nice reading there. Anyway, there's still one more PK monster they havent shown. Hopefully it has a Burial from a D.D. effect.

>>122019817
Most tripfags in /vg/ use a tripcode for no fucking reason. You are full of shit.

>>122020775
You know I meant phantom knights man, I just typed the wrong thing because phantom beasts have been around longer and I'm more used to following phantom with beasts.

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>yfw the supreme form of God is released and has no effect protection whatsoever

>>122020543
I'd run compluse before I'd run grand mole.

>>122020543
>>122020718
You should seriously consider using Summoning Curse. It's the main reason you use Yosenjus. Also, if you do add them, swap RB for Owner's Seal, since RB would make you banish since you instantly regain your Kaijus.

>>122013971
I invented the initial Warrior Shaddoll build that changed Shaddolls for the entire meta, though, way before Hoban and a few days before the ARG.

>>122020871
Just thought it was funny. Glad to see im not the only person who cares about The Phantom Knights. Plus you reminded me that Mecha P.B. are also irrelevant which sucks. (aside from draccosack)

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>>122018761
HD

>>122021086
I've tried curse, It struck me as meh. If I can't get the ball rolling curse fucks me up also space issues in this build.

>>122020963
Why not both? Grand Mole doesn't target right?

>>122022068
Fair enough, I'm having a really hard time getting everything I need in my KaiDolls, I'll post my current build whenever I can get on DN. And Grand Mole uses your normal.

>>122022068
Aye both is fine just saying you should make space for compluse.

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What do you guys think of my anti EMEM deck?

>>122022903
>maindecking 3 deck Devy but not maindecking 1 Eradicator
????

>>122022903
You can get away with only one fusion contract, also add main more viruses.

>>122023154
Even Crush Card?

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>>122023257
ALL. OF. THEM.

What if Monkeyboard is a common in TCG?

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>>122020894
Too bad he got undermined.
It is a Sun of God.

>>122023636
>this somehow would actually work against EMEm

fuggggg

>>122023959
>Egyptian god cards in the anime are priceless and one of a kind on top of being some of the strongest cards in existence
>Everyone just manhandles them with no sleeves or protection of any kind
Makes me cringe every time.

>>122018995
>not mixed languages
poor

>>122021840
Is that Goyo Quasar?

>>122024861
Piper Ghostrick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCLuNi_YYnM

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>>122024506
Sup fag

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>"haha you can't target my Dark Destroyer!"
NOT TODAY FAGGOT

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Konami Card Games Executive Leaves Company, Joins Mobile Game Developer Mobcas

>Former Konami Digital Entertainment executive Shinichi Hanamoto was a senior contents officer in charge of Konami's card games. In November 2014 he was promoted to general manager. Konami is the Japanese licensor and distributor of the Yu-Gi-Oh! card game.

What this means:

>Guy that has been charge of everything on Japan regarding Yugioh was moved to Pachinkos
>Tewart literally and confirmedly took his place now

This game is beyond fucked now.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-10/konami-card-games-executive-leaves-company-joins-mobile-game-developer-mobcast/.95221

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>>122025259

fuck

>>122025482
>avance
what a shitter

>>122025721
I'm aware.
The play was avance stack zealgigas zeal eff add zeal

>>122012450
but that's my secret Blaze Fenix tek alongside Volcanic Slicer

>>122025482
What is up with madolche shitters recently?

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>>122026424
It's just me.

>>122026424

they found out that their deck can pull some combos with pendulums

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>>122025259
>Yugioh is really dying because of the pachinko shit

What game should I move to?
Magic?
Vanguard?
Pokemon?
Force of Will?

>>122025259
I really don't know if I can deal with this game being even more controlled by Tewart than it already is.

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Thoughts?

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>>122025259
>>>Tewart literally and confirmedly took his place now

Would Dinomist SQMP work depending on how good Green is?

>>122026852
What happens if I successfully normal summon Denko Sekka? Wait to draw Raigeki?

>>122025259
Why Konami forsakes everything for mobile games?

Who plays that shit? I sure bet that they made more money with Metal Gear and Yugioh.

>>122016781
normies fuckin love the term pepe. a few of my friends and my girl heard that people are calling it pepe and they thought it was hilarious. call it circus all you like but youre being a tryhard

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So we all agree that SQMPs are a rogue deck that won't even make tier 3 and will sack a few lucky wins with improbable draws allowing them to easily summon Magnus, but their R3 and possibly R4 will be good and splashable pseudo-generics for other decks?

What a wasted archetype, it could've been good without those unnecessary restrictions on Red.

>>122026710
Magic is pretty good, but it's fairly expensive if you want anything meta you're gonna eat 600-700

>>122027062
>Who plays that shit?
Everyone in Japan.

>I sure bet that they made more money with Metal Gear and Yugioh.
I don't think so, those shits are P2W as fuck, and knowing Konami they'll squeeze their customers.

>>122018761
joker, apex avian, solemn warning, summoner's art, wisdom-eyes, veiler

git fukt

>>122023862
>Pepe becomes budget
JUST FUCK MY META UP.
>>122025259
>Guy that has been charge of everything on Japan regarding Yugioh was moved to Pachinkos
>Tewart literally and confirmedly took his place now
Sauce on Tewart taking over? Nips hate America so I doubt it.
>>122026710
If YGO dies, I'm going to Magic. Their basically the same except Magic is like 2 to 3 times more expensive.
The prize support seems ok though.
>>122027062
Mobile games are the future since consoles are being used to shill propanga and have lost their entertainment value

>>122026980
How does Sekka shutdown psyframes? At all?

>>122026710
Magic or Force of Will if you like a good game + anime shit. Force of Will has good tournament organization and seems to be doing well for a rather new game.

Vanguard is way too sacky and pokemon is well, pokemon.

>>122027346
You can't punch over it and you can't get rid of it. You no longer have any way of forcing your opponent to do anything. That's not something you want.

>>122027193
Kozmo cost more than $1000 and since the ultra furrys spiked the fuck up to $85 they are even more expensive than baby jace.
And both decks are going to soft rotate into oblivion once PePe arrives.

At least you can wait until the fetchs rotate in april and Standard decks will return to $200 or $300 tops.

>>122026710
Dragon Ball Z

>>122027553
I normal summon psyframe driver

>>122027553
>you can't get rid of it.
Tribute rabbit for driver, alpha it on summon, psychic feelzone. I mean it's easier as shit to get rid of it.

>>122023862
he definitely will be. they'll bump ariadne to ultra, possibly even secret. if wizard comes he'll definitely be secret and likely will bump notice too

>>122027586
>Kozmo cost more than $1000 and since the ultra furrys spiked the fuck up to $85 they are even more expensive than baby jace.
>And both decks are going to soft rotate into oblivion once PePe arrives.
What the fuck is up with YGO nowadays?
Can't people just buy booster boxes or something with that much money and resell the cards?

When the FUCK is Heavy getting unbanned?
YOU KNOW I STILL RUN STARLIGHT, EVEN THOUGH THERE?S NOTHING THAT CAN POP 2 OF MY BACKROW AT ONCE EXCEPT TWIN TWISTER AND I BARELY EVEN SEE THAT GETTING PLAYED

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>>122025259
What if Tewart starts rarity bumping shit on the OCG so we don't have rarity bumps on the tcg... since everything good will be secret or ultra already?

>>122027869
>What the fuck is up with YGO nowadays?
>nowadays

How new are you? Do you not remember DaD, Tele-DaD and lightsworn?

>>122027869
the shitty fanbase makes cards overpriced because ygo players are so scummy. soz guys, but you know its true. everyone is bandit keith

>>122027924
Get good, scrub.

>>122028047
You are dumb as shit. Shut the fuck up.

>>122027924
Why are you still running Starlight Road? I had trouble letting go, but did eventually.

>>122027982
You know Tewart has no control over the OCG right?

>>122026852
maxx C is pretty shit this format, just drop it. rabbits are kind of shitty too IMO, I side them out all the time and eventually just replaced them with Doomcals which worked way better.

Try blazing mirror force instead to push for more damage easier but both suck vs majespecters which is your absolute worst matchup.

Might want 1 terra + meme game to let you get field spell easier and give an emergency draw whenever. Plus you can stall with meme game at worst.

Psychic lifetrancer in the extra is a MUST

Other cards to consider:
Galaxy cyclone (you can pop your extra overloads to search)
Soul Charge (mileage may vary, I find it rarely dead)
Skill Drain (because fuck majespecters)

>>122028140
you eat your own shit and spend your dads money on cardboard and worse yet you probably spent that money on soon to be outclassed kozmemes

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>>122025259
>Yugioh will die on your life time
>because of mobile games and pachinko

Post your face when that happens

>>122027869
>nowadays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTqubIknIeo

>>122028405
Stop projecting you underage faggot.

I play this game because I like it and I can make tons of money of it. And no, I'm not playing Kozmo.

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>>122028406
if konami drops yugioh (very unlikely, seriously they print fucking shiny cardboard and make millions, you think they are gonna get rid a gig like that?), takahashi can just make a deal with Wizards or Bushiroad or whatever instead and then sell the game through them as if nothing happened, and we will be (comparatively) better off with a way nicer company as a result.

>>122028458
>Capital G said he was wrong
>Got BTFO

>>122028615
I'll be happy with Wizards or UDE.
Fuck Bushiroad.

>>122028615
>Bushiroad

Might as well let the game die with konami. Bushiroad is a hundred times worse than Konami.

>>122028564
you're the only one projecting here, people don't jump to insults off the bat unless they have something tonfeel guilty about.

>>122028793
I don't think you know what ''projecting'' means. I called you dumb and told you to shut up because what you said was dumb as shit. Then you responded with something that had nothing to do with me or my comment and you post like a 12 year old. Seriously, how new are you?

>>122028615
>Bushiroad
>Structure decks are all decently playable in tournaments, but cost $20 each.
>You still have to buy 3.
No thanks.

>>122027770
>if wizard comes he'll definitely be secret
Just like Trampolynx, right?

Yuya's shit doesn't get high rarity unless it's a boss.

>>122029134
>Structure decks are all decently playable in tournaments
PFFFFFHAHAHA
YGO structure decks are WAY better than the shit Bushiroad produces

>>122029082
Shut up autistic retard.

>>122029348
In the beginning of Vanguard, you could reasonably sack a tournament with a single Structure.

Dunno how it is now, though.

>>122028615
>Bushiroad
>the company that can't into tournament organization
>the company that booked a kindergarten for nationals in germany
>the company that cancels rarities and concepts after 2 sets just because the japs don't like it
>the company that doesn't support tournaments that they give out prizes
>the company that is 10 times more greedy than konami

Yeah no. Bushiroad is the shit.

>>122029509
Trial Decks in Vanguard now contain exactly 3 relevant cards, the cover unit, the GB1 on boost unit, and the starter.

>>122029372
Nice response, newfag. Its so fucking obvous that you are new. Seriously, fuck off or shut the fuck up.

Cards are expensive because there is a huge demand for them and not because ygo players are scummy. How is that so fucking hard to understand? Also, you are obviously poor. Otherwise you wouldn't complain about card prices like that. Are you underage? Maybe you should get a part time job.

>>122029509
Its not exactly a structure deck but there is something like that which is enough to win events with.

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http://www.ygopro.co/ygochrome.aspx

Lots of bugs but i can already see it getting big when it does get everything the standard version has.

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If the wizards take Yugioh, would they nerf/slow down the game and make less broken cards?
If so, then I'm out because its the only fast card game I like.

>>122030324
Uno is pretty fast

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>>122029637
And I thought Konami was terrible.
How vanguard has an unironic playerbase that claims that their game is better than YGO I'll never know.

>>122030495
I'm the fucking Gregor of Uno.

>>122028406

I doubt that will ever happen. Mobile games and card games aren't even in market vs each other. Konami doesn't have many mobile games anyway.

>>122030668
You know the people that scrub out of every single yugioh tournament with a score around 0:3 and then cry about broken cards and luck? Yeah, those people make up about 95% of the vanguard player base. The vanguard community is fucking retarded. The game is unreasonable expensive as well.

>>122030495
Uno is bullshit, Draw 4 Wild should be fucking banned

>>122030912
>cry about broken cards and luck
>play Vanguard
I agree with you, they're fucking retarded.

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>>122030495

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I see you've heard the news, I'm sure you'll love the new changes I'm going to bring to Yugioh!

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Are the ratios good?

See ya, fuckbois

>>122031345
I like it better than first place.
Both decks have nice techs though.

>>122031345
That's awful familia.

>>122031345
>DOG fighter
That's why it's second.

>>122031345
"b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but dogfighter is b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bad" - /dng/ tripfags

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>>122031041
Fuck You, Tewart.

>>122031345
>Memeelze of Memeolic Memeons

>>122030912
>and then cry about broken cards and luck? Yeah, those people make up about 95% of the vanguard player base. The vanguard community is fucking retarded. The game is unreasonable expensive as well.
How the fuck can they even play Vanguard when they have that Trigger mechanic which can make or break the game?
Holy crap. I'd understand if they moved to MTG or Pokemon but that's just sick.
>>122031494
Enjoy going bankrupt when the mobile industry collapses on itself ya greedy chink

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>>122031345
>that krebons in side to make beelze with a dog fighter token in the mirror

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>>122031345
>Kozmeme MEME Memer

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>>122031345
>LADD

>>122031671
>How the fuck can they even play Vanguard when they have that Trigger mechanic which can make or break the game?

Even the worst players can win games and entire tournaments thanks to that Trigger mechanic and if they lose they have a legit excuse because it really is luck. Its the perfect game for dumb people.

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>>122031345
That guy memed the fuck out of the tournament.

>>122031345
>>122031874
>He wanted to note that "Of course Ladd is the secret tech, and it actually helped me win a lot of games and matches, however it also helped me lose the last one. He knew about Ladd before the match started, knowing the mirror generally you side out of eff negation as it's not that good but he kept it in for Ladd and game 3 bts was too much for the young Ladd.
outskilled

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>I think Dog Fighter is bad

>>122031345
>Krebons
>LADD
What a skillful bastard.

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DOG fighter is only good if you're running Monarchs Stormforth.

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>MEME Memer is good

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>I think Kozmemes are good

>>122032629
>Occupies every spot in the top 4
>bad

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>I don't browse r/yugioh to laugh

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>>122032769
>I browse Reddit ironically

>Run 3 ships
>No pilots
>Run 2 Ships
>No Ships
This fucking game gives me heart burn.

>>122027586
Yea it's really only the fetches that kill you but those are splashable, some cards (tarmogoyf) are ridiculous in price and not nearly as versatile. I guess yugioh has the upper hand in that some staples (exciton may he rest in peace) were pricey, but everything used him. Magic doesn't have many cards like that.

TL:DR
Magic is really only expensive for the mana base, once you have that established most meta decks (with exceptions of tarmogoyfs) aren't that expensive

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>>122033136
>I browse reddit

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>>122033330
Have you considered gitting gud?

>>122033330

Post your deck.

>>122033683
your deck.

What can I combine with Volcanics to make them better? I love playing them but they're pretty mediocre

>>122033136
That effect isn't so bad. Why doesn't he see more play in X-sabers or during the synchro era? He could be a good support for going into quasar.

>>122034082
General burn cards and stall shit.
Waboku, Just desserts, prepared explosives, magic cylinder, ceasefire etc.

>>122034092
Synch 5
Warrior-type
Warrior-type from hand

>>122034092
X-Sabers were busy just OTKing with Rescue Cat back then.

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>>122033547
>Git Gud
Can't

>>122033725
>Trying to bully me
ok/

>>122030010
the fact that you couldn't even tell that you were talking to a different person shows exactly how much you're projecting.

oh and by the way, value inflation is caused by a market not having a control mechanism by which to gauge its own value. guess why we dont have a control mechanism and currently have 3 cards sitting at $100+? oh look at that it's because people don't give a shit and just want to make as much money as they can, surprise surprise.

just saying, everyone in tcg, everyone in competitive knows YGO is the worst fanbase, EVERYONE. people lie and steal decks and under and overvalue all the time and try and trick people. DN has the worst quality in game chat in the world. our MOST well-known player, patrick hoban, readily admits to tricking his opponents mid game, which is legal but scummy. the game is great, and loads of the players are great. but youve gotta be a fuckin idiot to not see just how many shitty people make yugioh shitty

>>122034370
>Reasoning
Is this meme going to be the new thing now?

>>122034656
>reasoning isn't good

>>122013382
>Flint
Oh god the nostalgia. I remember when my friend kept kicking my ass with two ulti flints and when I went to buy some they were like 30 bucks.

>>122034656
Will you kill yourself already

>>122034737
Not as good as people make it out to be when you can mill key spells you use like E-tele or town
It's decent

>>122034907
Shut up, newfag.

>>122034907
How in the fuck is "you could mill town" a good argument against a card that gives you a free summon 90% of the time?

>>122035076
>Trying to argue with King Memenarch
Don't even bother m8

>>122027527
>FoW
>"Good"
>when people cheated blantantly in the fucking finals world championship
Also the power creep is pretty bad, felt like a second VG here. It does has a better gameplay than VG though.

>>122035076
>90% of the time
>17 monsters
>22 others
>1 monster thats dead if milled
90% isn't a proper figure closer to 75% and thats assuming your opponent doesn't call the right number which is rare but can happen.
I didn't say it was bad I just think it's not the best tech choice.

>>122035195
>losing an argument simply cause you can't provide a proper response
>resort to funposting
Harvard tier debate skills.

>>122035716
>>when people cheated blantantly in the fucking finals world championship
As if YGO is much better.

>>122035751
Reasoning is basically a second e-tele for the deck since Kozmos can only normally put 1 monster on the board every turn. Reasoning lets you up that amount to 2, and then e-teles let you raise that to 3 summons, letting you push aggressively immediately. Milling spells and traps isnt a concern, since all that matters is that you put big ass floaters on board that plus when they get special summoned.

>>122036049
That's true and I won't argue that but late game, a reasoning draw won't help much especially when you're going to be burning alot of monster through banishing and if it's a mirror even worse because the percentage of the time you'll get a good mill is depleted significantly. I'd go for escape from the D. Dimension before I go with reasoning since it can be run at 2, it can grab destroyer for a pop, can be used on your opponents end phase and I don't have to mill anything important that I won't get back. Both are stopped by vanity and solemn anyways but at least the pop and ability to play it on opponents turn is a good thing.

>>122035953
>>losing an argument
You just said "reasoning isn't good because you can mill spells", you lost the argument before it even started.

>>122035716
Well, the game is pretty new so obviously it still has some problems. I looked into it recently and they are organising a lot of shop tournaments with promo cards and special playmats and so on. The game seems pretty cheap as well. I didn't know about the power creep, though.

>>122035751
>>122035953
>>122036352
Shut up, newfag. You are not welcome here.

>>122035976
Yeah, but our power creep are only getting worse after a while post-DUEA, FoW had a couple sets out then everything powercreeped to hell a la VG, that's why I stopped playing.

>>122036410
See https://z-1-scontent-sin1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/1049085_758137430981955_8600741097866248061_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9
I want to upload the pic, but my connection is fucking shitty.

>>122036382
see
>>122036352
Why would I bother writing out this post to you when you couldn't and still can't provide a good argument.

What Reasoning number DO you declare vs Noids?

>>122036963
1

>>122034370

>juragedo
>only 6 ships
>ONLY 2 DESTROYER

>>122036963
4 to hit raidens and protect you from norlearas shenanigans

>>122036827
Well, thats pretty strong and the art looks nice. Are there more strong cards like that? One or two cards like that can't break a game and thats by far not as bad as vg power creep due to the nature of the game.

>retarded tripfag arguing against fucking reasoning

Why do people still respond to him?

>>122036410
>The game seems pretty cheap as well.
No, especially with how fast the powercreep kicks in.

>>122037086
>juragedo is bad and you shouldn't run 3 in kozmo
Epic

you are right on the other 2 though. The fuck anon?

>>122036885
Shut up, newfag.

>>122037360

Would you like to show me all of the top kozmo lists that run 3 juragedo? Or are you the "results don't matter" guy?

>>122037483
No I just think Juragedo is pretty good in Kozmo.

>>122037345
That sucks. Honestly, I expected the company behind force of will to know better. I expected a lot of them.

>>122037543

Then you're wrong. There's a reason none of the decks that topped San Jose run 0 of him.

>>122037260
There's a lot, before, they released a 1 cost monster destroyer that can also burn. There's also a Stellarnova Alpha knock off.
FoW is about as bad as VG in term of powercreep.

>>122031610
That's ARG retard.

>>122037665

My bad, meant to write "all of the decks that topped San Jose"

>>122036885
Because your arguments are fucking terrible
>it's bad late game
Kozmo games only last 5 turns max anyway, you'll never run out of ships, even when you run it at 3
>It's stopped by Vanity's and solemn
So is every other card in the deck
>I don't have to mill anything important
You act like that's a bad thing but if Town and E-Tele are 3-4 cards deep in your deck there's no way you're gonna last long enough to draw them. The only way Kozmo can win is by swarming the field and Reasoning gives you an extra summon so you can do that

>>122037665
>none run 0
so they all run at least one?

What stun does well against Kozmo and Memespecters? I'm considering running D/D stun at locals.

>>122036352
>late game, a reasoning draw won't help
weren't you the idiot who argued for 3 rota in fucking monarchs before the banlist?

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>>122016113

>>122036963
I always declare 8 since they could be Kozmos now

>>122037665
>*There isn't a reason why none of the decks that didn't topped San Jose don't run 0 of him

>>122038170
No one cares. Shut up, retard.

>>122037546
They were doing fine until around the 4th or 5th pack, then they just went full Jewish powercreep mode.

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R8/h8 my Majememes

>>122038506
>compulsory
>torrential
>3 mst 3 eccentrick maindeck
>MACRO COSMOS AND FISSURE
>that random upstart in the side

Euro....

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>>122038353
I care so you should too

>>122038506
Better wait for Magicians.

>>122038353
I care.

>>122038773
What's wrong with Compulsory? With a bit of setup it lets me reap the benefits of Raccoon and Fox and use them as a scale.

Torrential is for me, Anon, because my stuff floats. It's good.

>>3 mst 3 eccentrick maindeck

Fair enough. That's valid.

>>MACRO COSMOS AND FISSURE

For disrupting stuff, yes. It's not intended to stay on the field.

>>122037980
Nope argued for 2 and I ran 2
>>122037824
>kozmo games last 5 turns max
maybe if your opponent is retarded or using a petdeck, in the mirror though they last well over 5 turns and reasoning milling for ships that are better distributed throughout the game isn't as helpful as some might think again with the fact that late game you'll be moving more toward grabbing your ships back from the banished zone rather than using reasoning for a quick draw.
>solemn and vanity stop every card
True.
>milling town or e-tele isn't a bad thing
considering you don't get them back I would say that is a bad thing. You can't control where they are in the deck so reasoning for a ship pull isn't helpful when decks like infernoid or even UA can run it to gain a possible search or SS play but Kozms running it can cost you alot for a little.
I never said it was bad just not a good enough tech that people should be running when Escape from the DD is much more versatile. E-tele gives more versatility and is really more than enough for kozmo

Why do all these shitters keep quitting on me when I play Burgesstomas?

>>122039082
because burgs are gay, and will never come to TCG land.

>>122038506
>3 terraforming
>3
>THREE
>chicken meme

>>122039059
>Raccoon and Fox and use them as a scale
Gimmicky and slow. Useless in the mirror and barely useful in Kozmo match-up

>Torrential is for me, Anon, because my stuff floats. It's good.

Same reason as above

>For disrupting stuff, yes. It's not intended to stay on the field.

Both of those cards are harmful to you too. Why don't you pick a card that only harmful to your opponent? Even Kozmotown still float with Macro up but your scales don't float with Macro up.

>>122039065
>>122039286
>>122039427
Shut up, newfag. You are not welcome here.

>>122029134
Are you talking about Vanguard? Vanguard G starters you buy 2 of and you have a competitive deck

I'll also say Force of Will is pretty amazing but I bought two of the blue starter decks and blew all my shitty friends out of the water because the Hydra in that deck is broken and the J Ruler is too but they got rid of life break and fucked me

>>122039573
I love you so so so so so sos sosososososososososossososososososossososososos much

Do we have any hard numbers or facts to go on that the two codes after Magnaslayer AREN'T Super Quantum trap cards?

Or are we simply assuming it's ten cards because psyframes were?

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>>122039670
Don't spam up my threads with your shitposting.

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>wake up
>Still no green layer
>evangelion has Pachinko machines but there's still no YGO Pachinko machine

>>122040379
We can go vorcia. right now. We can go.
:3

>>122039508
>Gimmicky and slow. Useless in the mirror and barely useful in Kozmo match-up

Alright, then. I'll take them out, I suppose.

>Both of those cards are harmful to you too. Why don't you pick a card that only harmful to your opponent? Even Kozmotown still float with Macro up but your scales don't float with Macro up.

Because A, most floodgates not already in my side are harmful to Specters as well, and B, everything else in my Side is for Kozmemes.

>>122040465
>set releases November 14, 2015
>shit still hasn't been spoiled
Don't retailers get their stuff before release date?

>>122040571
What deck are you expecting other than Kozmeme?

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Post skrt toolbox

>>122040953
skrt toolbox

>>122040815
I dunno, man. What else even is effective against Kozmo other than L1T which also fucking ruins Majespecters?

>people are legitimately responding to tripfags

>>122041148
Holy shit you complain so fucking much. Are you just samefagging? Because I refuse to believe there are multiple people shitposting like you do. I feel like all you do is come on this board to complain for attention. Stop.

>>122041524
Why don't you shadow duel him if you're so tough?

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I feel like i can improve the deck but i don't know how.

How do I Kaiju Yosenju /dng/?

>>122041606
Maybe if he actually surrenders who he is

>>122042225
>triple trade in
No.

>>122042225
>Playing the deck without Temujin and Night Howling
Don't bother.

>>122042225
Human resources is actually good af since TCG build needs consistency + ability to recycle those precious d'arcs.

also blazing mirror force doesnt work with d'arc, sorry.

>>122042546
what should I replace for with? upstarts?

>>122042587
I want to play cheap for this format since everything is super priced.

>>122042614
What do you think I should put for that? how does blaze doesn't work?

>>122042225
You need more floodgates senpai
Run that Mistake/IIW/Light Imprisoning Mirror/Skill Drain. You can turn that shit off in your turn.

>>122042815
Take out an Errors (its dead vs kozmo and you can search it when you need it) and side out an MST. Also run an allure, and maybe a call of the haunted or two. Trade-in engine is kinda iffy with only 3 targets.


blaze needs to burn you to burn your opponent. D'arc just turns it into a draining shield.

>>122042815
Just put generic stun in.

How do I beat Graydlekajus?

>>122043369
How is that even a thing?

>>122043369
Out card them
Grayjus lack draw power, so if they have a good hand and you can counter for a good couple of turns their momentum slows down.

When will card destruction come off the list?

>>122043369
Run a not trash deck
>>122043686
never

>>122043747
I'm running Kozmos
>>122043505
They work surprisingly well together.

>>122043169
>Take out Errors
You've obviously never seen the horror that is Errors+Vanity's.

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>>122043872
Then I only have one solution for you.

>>122043169
It still destroys.

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Unbelievable, against any other deck his backrow would've shut down alot of plays but against furries they just laugh
>inb4 HURF DURF VIDEO IS SO SLOW

>>122044254
Nobody cares

>>122043169
A fieldnuke that can give you 3-5k life isn't too bad.

>>122043973
its nice but 1) errors is 99% dead against kozmos which is half of the meta and 2) you have to waste a kepler summon just to grab it, and most of the time grabbing gate/swamp is more important.

>>122044254

holy shit, just use the fucking speeding up tools, we gave you a shit ton, fuck you, you're just looking for (you)s

>>122043169
I wouldn't take out errors, but I forgot about allure, thanks bud.

>>122043215
kinda hard cause of the kozmemes format going on right now.

>>122043080
thanks, Im gonna fix up my extra and add some of those things. I forgot I can turn them off with errors

>>122044495
Windows movie maker won't register the video, and I've been using frapps and webm for bakas with high quality mode on. It's the fact I run it on a laptop.

>>122044489
Running Errors lets you also run Drains + IIW with no ill effects to yourself.

FUCKING BAN CASTEL PLEASE

>>122040953
Delete this. It's my secret Fluffal tech.

>>122044636
>p-please ban the only good rank 4 left ;(
no

>>122044634
again its nice but what happens when you draw errors with no flood? It's a nice combo when you get it but running more than 1 errors is bound to dead draw.

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>I think Castel is healthy for the game and shouldn't be banned.

>People complaining about one of the only good generic ways to deal with floaters
baka

>>122044254
change rate speeds up the webm. You can preview it too. Now stop making excuses.

>>122045037
Let them be, when Castel gets banned they're the first ones to cry about Castel getting banned.

>>122045037
>floaters

and floodgates, most big monster, pendulum scales, field spell. How is that thing fair?

>>122044949
You should have said that when Silent Honors got printed.

>>122045146
They should've banned it when it was relevant.

>>122045320
>If I open my floodgate I should insta win!

Reminder to vote. Tomorrow I let off the security functions.

http://goo gl/forms/X1d0zxGVRl

>>122045320
Any strategy that can be broken down by getting a single card Castel'd isn't a good strategy.

How to hero deck, desu

>getting butthurt about Castel, a monster that can essentially only spin once per summon unless you summon him with 4 material

>>122046408
Dank Claw
or
Lose

>>122046798
strap on your helmet son

>>122046798
Specifics?

>>122047062
>Go First
>Special Shadow Mist by Goblind/Tinplate/AHL
>Search Mask Change
>Set Everything
>Wait until DP or when the opponent Searches or Draws
>Activate Mask Change on Shadow Mist
>Activate Dark Law after resolutions
>Pray it actually fucks up a combo or not

If you got second or if there is a 2400+ monster out then you're done or scrap a win using Absolute/Traps/Xyz Toolbox with no 3mats.