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Pandering edition.

>What is DUELYST?

DUELYST is a competitive strategy card game focused on tactical combat, squad building, and ranked ladder play.

>Play in Chrome
http://beta.duelyst.com/

>Client Download
https://updates.counterplay.co/launcher

>Squad Builder
http://duelystdb.com/

>Forum, Announcements...
http://forums.duelyst.com/

>faction overview, guides and general information
http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Getting_Started

Now in open beta.

Previous thread: >>121584691
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is vindicator auto spirit?
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R I P S A R L A C
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MAGMAR CONTROL JUST GOT BETTER
where do we find good decklists to draw inspiration from?
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>get to rank 0 playing from the middle of october with just a free deck
>have absolutely no fun grinding dailies though
>don't want to be slave to a game so stop playing
>sarlac nerf, I have 3 of them, I could get massive amounts of spirit if I start playing again with new decks

AYYYYY I FEEL THE URGE
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What is more important for control mag?
Meta or elder?
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god fucking damnit i just lost because i wasn't able to fucking move
these goddamn shitty servers man
fuck
would have literally won on that turn but the piece of shit lags to fuck and doesnt allow me to use any spells, not move anything on the field no nothing
goddamnit
then the turn ends and the enemy is able to move just fine
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I was going to post something angry about losing to luck, which I did, but that's life. Oh well.

http://i.imgur.com/qSTtPqo.jpg

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>>121945282
I know that feel, my dear friend.
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So what faction should I play now that abyss will be below Vanar tier?
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>>121946004
Magmar
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>lose vs lyonar because of regalia
>Level up to 11 and get a pack
YOU WILL NEVER GUESS WHAT I GOT.
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>>121947852
Don't do it tbhfam
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>>121948057
>Implying the other deck I'm making other than finishing magmar control isn't healyonar.

Short games are for shitters.
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>>121948151
#baka #desu #senpai
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What are the new top decks now that sarlac is RIP in piece? Seems like it's just gonna be magmar
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Would an abyssion deck based around shadow creep be viable?
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>>121949259
Nothing Abyssian will be viable once the patch hits.
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>>121944686
>DUELYST is a competitive strategy card game

Competitive games don't have uneven playfields, try again.
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>>121949581
Pretty sure counter strike has uneven playfields and it has been competitive for years and years
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>>121945273
Metamorphosis, it helps you to get late game and turn the tides if you have absolutely no board control with the plasma storm or Harvester combo.
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http://forums.duelyst.com/t/duelyst-beta-0-51-0-pending-release-11-10-5pm-pst/21296
Lmao at all the butthurt abyssian cancerfags.
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>>121950743
about fucking time.

I'd rather not waste my dispells on shitty 1/1s
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>>121951241
Dispel is a pretty OP mechanic too. Seems like it's too easy to acquire and shit on so many different strategies
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Worth keeping?
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>>121952960
Meh
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>>121952958
Spotted the Lyonar
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>>121953202
I actually play magmar :^)
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>>121953494
*tips grow and egg dispel*
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>>121949259
Just dropped three rabks trying this. Just don't.
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Safe to dust my Sarlac if I play only Vanar?
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>>121955329
Wait 'til the patch hits.
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Is there a viable mechaz0r build? I have a boner for robots.
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>>121952960
mirkblood and azure shaman are alright
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>sarlac is nerfed to shit
>lyonar, vetruvian and magmar still the best
>abyssian that wasn't even top 3 gets shit on completely to vanar levels of bad
They could have just made sarlac an abyssian card and allow people full disenchant for a couple weeks. Now sarlac is shit and abyssian unplayable.
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>>121956648
ahh releif...
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Well, now that sarlac is dead in abyssian I will switch to something else since I was playing abyssian death benefit at rank 7. What should I turn my 4800 dust into?

>in b4 rook
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>>121956837
Elders
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>>121956912
I have 1 but I'm not sure if I can put a magmar deck together. What are the essential legendaries? Do you need burst at all? I have the following expensive magmar stuff from random packs:

1 elder
1 makator beast
1 metamorphosis
1 kujata

I have all their non epic/legendaries 3 times. But I'm not sure if I can make a deck that's rank 7 good with that.
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>>121952960
Mirkblood is nice when you're lacking legendaries.
People freak out as soon as he hits the board, and if you can summon two creatures around him, you're getting value.

Shaman is fun.
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Anyone else not able to log on?
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>>121958214
maintenance
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>>121957128
Depends on what kinda control you're running. Im sure the meta will change a bit now, natural selection will be super useful now that sarlac is gone imo
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About to break down all my songhai and lyonar cards. Should I build Vetruvian or Vanar?
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>>121959243
Magmar
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>>121959243
You won't have enough for Vet.
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>>121959243
Vanar most fun
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>win the battle
>le one moment please xDDD
I'm about to drop this fucking bullshit game
JESUS CHRIST
>it never happens when I lose
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>>121961356
Please understand
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>>121961519
NO
ENOUGH
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>>121961356
>losing hard
>suddenly one moment please
>guy skips his turn
>shit on him
:^)
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2000 dust, want to build a vanar deck

what's the prime picks that aren't legendary?
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>>121961356
>>121961642
never had this happen
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>>121956648
Even if you change the colors, Sarlac doesn't fit the Abyssian theme
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So, should I dust Spelljammer? Gonna bag it with Sarlac who, as a non Vanar player, is worthless to me now.
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Goodbye Sarlac, you served me well.
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Rev up those free cards
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>>121962889
Also, sunstone templars/artifact hunter
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>>121956648
But didn't vetruvian use sarlac to buff their portal guardians?
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>>121962910
>900 spirit
What
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>>121963028
Nerfed to 3 mana, full spirit refunds for a week.
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>>121963021
Yeah.
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>>121963028
When they nerf cards you can get a full Spirit disenchant for a week
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>>121962339
All of their epics are good
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>>121963069
>>121963091
Oh, alright.
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So when is the game actually going to be playable?
I'm tired of all those disconnects and lags.
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>>121963467
Supposedly now.
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>>121963915
Yeah, no, it's still shit.
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Good lord these servers.
Just finished a game with my general at full health.

One moment...
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Why would they nerf Abyssian and Vet when Magmar and Lyonar are the problem?
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>>121964041
Enjoy waiting forever.
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>>121964112
I guess it's too much to ask to get at least my dailies out of the way.
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>>121964050
>>121956648

>all these abyssian tears because they can't abuse as much an op neutral card
loving every laugh
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>>121964390
They should've just made it Abyssian instead of neutral
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>>121964437
or you shouldnt rely so much on an obviously OP card, shitter
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>>121964568
Let's be honest here though, it was a vetruvian nerf as well. They pretty much made magmar the top deck because natural selection just got a whole lot better. I play magmar and even I think it was a bit mucu
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>>121964680
neutral cards being mandatory in different factions is retarded, sarlac and lady op needed nerfs.

And who runs natural selection past rank 10?
Its situational and doesn't synergize with egg minions, which are the best magmar units.
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So how bad is sarlac now? I have 3 but thinking about keeping him anyway.
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>>121965907
I'd keep one for collecting purposes
2 if you still want to run him
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>>121965907
Unplayable if you're top tier, Lower ranks hes fine
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Is this more hearthstone or more magic
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>>121966651
The pricing model is nigh identical to Hearthstone, except the game's basically five times more generous with the free stuff they give you. Gameplay-wise, it has elements from both games you mentioned - but it plays out in a way that's all its own.
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>>121966843
>except the game's basically five times more generous with the free stuff they give you
YEAH BUT IT DOESN'T LIMIT LEGENDARIES TO 1 COPY PER DECK

In that regard shit's rigged for P2Winnery since all we get is cheap shit.
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>>121966927
>all we get is cheap shit
Son, I've opened double-legend packs on multiple occasions. I think that happened MAYBE once in Hearthstone for me.

I do think the disenchant rate for Duelyst's cards could be refined, though. Maybe make it a nice even half refund instead of the complex number system they have arranged now.
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>>121967239
>Son, I've opened double-legend packs on multiple occasions
Pure RNG.
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>>121967326
But it's an RNG that's more in our favor.
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>>121967326
The drop rate for legendary cards is definitely higher than in Hearthstone, though.
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>>121967417
Also, the "cost for a card" is much lower. In Hearthstone you need 4 legendaries to craft a legendary, here you just need 3. 4 Epics for an epic, here 3 epics for an epic. And so on. So it balances out the fact that you need 3 copies of a legendary
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>>121966651
Card advantage is really hard to quantify when you draw 2 cards per turn, so in reality the game ends up being a lot more focused on boardstate and tempo when compared to games like hearthstone and magic. Hard to say it plays like one more than the other.
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so i'm fucking around with the idea of making a dervish oriented deck

obviously i need to keep the opponent from just steamrolling into my obelysks, so i was thinking i need some degree of "offense" to keep them at bay

but now that i think about it, i'm not really sure what that means in this game

do i want to focus on monsters with high attack, to remove any threats, or high hp, so they have lasting presence and pressure the opponent back? where should my general be in all this? what's actually a reliable way of making someone retreat, or at least keep them from wanting to dive in and punch my squishy blast units and obelysks?

i feel like i'm ok at the game, but my grasp on the more vague strategy is pretty spotty. help me, /dyg/
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>>121968719
Obelisk strategies get fucked over by dispel. It's not worth it
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>>121968719
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>>121969118
or by a random Plasma Storm.

Sadly there are too few cards at the moment and too few Dervish units to use. The only Vetruvian archetypes viable are Control and the ayy lmao Artifact Vetruvian
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>>121969118
>>121969425
maybe i wasn't clear enough in my post

i'm not asking for tips on how to make an obelysk deck work, i was just mentioning that as context

i'm looking for a better understanding on what an "aggressive" play would be and what kind of units would be used

i mean if i drop a rock pulverizer on the board, they're not exactly going "WHOA i better back the fuck up this nigger's serious". it might slow them down a bit, but that's it. if i throw out a phalanxar on the board, despite its huge attack, it doesn't really have any kind of presence to deter them, they can just zerg a minion into it and it's gone, so i don't know that i could call that "aggressive" either

it's not about obelysks, it's about "how do i defend thing" or "how do i make the opponent general want to back the fuck off" (or drive him into a corner)
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dead game, literally

how could they fuck matchmaking up so much
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>>121972132
Working out the kinks for the not beta? I dunno what you guys expext
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If I just want to play only abyss burn, magmar, vet to summon little guys and healyonar, any of these is auto dust?
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>>121974664
Grandmaster is a 7 mana Heal 12 + Teleport in the best cast.
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>>121974664
Elyx is also a shit card
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As a somewhat-new player going into Duelyst (alongside dyg), I want to play Abyss/Vetru/Magmar. I've done some AI up to Adeptus gate and rolled some cards. The notable ones being Aurora's Tears, Black Solus, Artifact Hunter, Sworn Defender and Eclipse.
What should I do to improve myself as a player?
I disenchanted all my Songhai and Vanar cards, the former cause of some annoying plays and Vanar with lack of interest
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>>121975534
It'll get buffed. also the art is nice
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>>121974664
Those are all good except for Time Maelstron
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>>121975640
Learn that Health is a resource, learn how different decks get their win conditions, understand the importance of early game consistency, and mulligans.
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Anybody have any good magmar control decklists?
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>>121978629
nope
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>>121978657
>tfw
i just wanna see what the core is like
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>>121978729
Copied from forums like a boss
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>>121978930
>sarlac
?
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WHY DID THE GAUNTLET TIMER RESET?
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>>121978930
>Sarlac
lol
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>>121979078
>playing Duelyst when matchmaking is 20 different types of unplayable which include the Sarlac nerf
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>>121979249
>playing Duelyst when matchmaking is 20 different types of unplayable which include the Sarlac nerf
I fixed it, I just reloaded the screen.
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>>121979249
spotted the butthurt abyssian
has anyone ever played this combo magmar? It's pretty hilarious
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Anyone else feel like devs really went overboard with tempest and plasma storm? Like, don't get me wrong I get their function in the meta, I just feel the numbers aren't right.
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First pack, did I do good?
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>>121980209
>vanar
nope
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>>121980209
>Vanar
Your loss
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>got the same faggot 3 times in arena
>lost 2
>too scared to queue again because i'm 5 wins 2 losses
fuck, what is this matchmaking even
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Get fucked abyssian scum.
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>>121980259
>>121980297
Well shit

Anyway as someone that generally likes midrangey stuff like Jund and Azban (MtG) or Shaman (Hearthstone)?
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Been playing Vanar in gauntlet a bit and I'm loving it. How does it fare in constructed?
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>>121980659
Magmar is like junk, abzan memeries (you even get rhinos) and jund
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>>121980659
Magmar is literally jund/junk. Super beefy value creatures, some of the best removal in the game, great mechanics (rebirth), seriously you name it and magmar has it.
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Vaath the Immortal x1
Makantor Warbeast x1
Young Silithar x3
Veteran Silithar x3
Silithar Elder x2
Spirit Harvester x2
Ephemeral Shroud x2
Healing Mystic x3
Zen'Rui, The BlightSpawned x1
Fractal Replication x1
Flash Reincarnation x3
Mana Burn x3
Earth Sphere x3
Metamorphosis x2
Plasma Storm x3
Natural Selection x2
Egg Morph x2
Adamantite Claws x2
Twin Fang x1

What to change/Craft ASAP?
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>>121981357
Don't bother with artifacts
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>>121981527
O-oh.

The twinfang is fine for aggro right?

Also change them for the heal on etb guy?

Lady locke Y/N?
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>>121956648
>Abysshit crying

Music to my ears.
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>>121980773
>>121981051
Thanks, just won my first game with Magmar.
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>>121981806
Remember.
Homo lizards and rhinos are for meme loving fucks
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>>121981779
Abyssian wasn't even that good, you will cry when all people bandwagon to Lyonar and Magmar.
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>>121981890
>Implying I play Healyonar of Fagmar
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>>121982025
>reading comprehension
Based retard.
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Here's my vet deck, I got to gold but I'm kinda stalling. I'm probably going to ditch Manaforger and Dominate Will as their space could be used for Scion's Wishes, but I often have trouble putting down something in the first turn. Thoughts ?
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>>121982094
I feel that mana forgers are useless.
Artifacts much of the same.
Maybe add one or two obeliscs
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>>121982189
>Ankh
>Useless
Come on man
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>>121982264
Hexblade feels pretty crap senpai
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do i keep sarlac now or dust him
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>>121981854
All I care about is VALUE

Vetruvian looks cool too.

Also from what I'm told this game isn't nearly as stingy with rewards as Hearthstone. There also seems to be more to the game than out-tempoing everything.
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>>121982732
that depends

do you enjoy anal stimulation? if so, keep 1 or 2
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>>121983029
>VALUE
T. Cock loving scalie
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Abyssians bitching makes my heart go doki doki. Gonna dust my 2 fuckers, exchange them for orb weares and dont look back. Thank you Jesus.
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>>121983320
>being a vetkek
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>>121983495
>not playing vet
>not playing the only faction that doesn't rely on fifty dispels or broken instant kill spells to win

:')
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>>121983575
I'd ask what it does rely on but then I remembered
>Vet
>Winning
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>>121983630
Aren't some of the tournament winners Vet ?
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>>121983575
>Instant kill spells
You mean like Star's Fury and Third Wish?
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>>121983748
>7 mana
>2 spells
>can be countered by positioning your units smartly

Fagmar alone have more OP cards.
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Anyone have a decklist for Songhai burn? I'm looking to hit face and make people mad as hell.
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>>121984529
I'm not a particularly good Songhai, but I believe it's something along these lines
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>>121984703
What's up with those cyclone masks? I've never seen how ranged and backstab interact with each other.
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>>121984832
I think you have to be in melee for Backstab to work. But the whole point of it is that you put on Cyclone and Shadows, then run away for the entire game while killing everything your opponent dumps down or you go for face. It's incredibly hard to deal with
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>>121984832
They don't. I would get a mask of shadows only, but that's just me. Twin strike a shit too, and I would put in some juxtapositions and celestial phantoms or even a punchbro magi, but that's just me.
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Just wondering, how do you guys view each faction in a personal sense?
For example I've been bursted down by way too many Songhais to really count so I don't really like them too much. I've been told people consider them OP but I'd like your guys' point of view
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>>121985056
>Celestial Phantom
It's shit, don't bother. The whole point of Twin Strike is that it gives card draw so you lose nothing from having it to deal with some annoying provokes or the like. But again, I'm not a great Songhai, so I might be entirely wrong. Except about Celestial Phantom
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>>121972132
>dead game
>matching que is sub 60s
pick one
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>>121985068
I don't think Songhai is nowhere OP. The Backstab version's damage can be halved if you put a minion behind you everytime, so to be not backstabbed. The spell version either doesn't burst enough against control or dies easily to aggro before doing anything.
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all these baddies who can't play van
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>121985068
Not OP, just annoying. The combos can make you feel like shit though.
Tye op faction is magmar by a fucking mile. Lyonar is boring as shit, Vet is pure p2w and abyss used to be aa annoying as songai, but with the sarlac nerfs they might be tolerable now. Vanar is the only respectful faction but their general is a dyke so they suck too
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>>121985254

If you're the magmar that just wiped me, I pulled both my healers and a third wish, and mulligan only gave me the same healers back and a sillouette tracer. Truly it was hell.
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>>121985331
nope i'm a vanar player. Just seeing too many people who think vanar is shit.
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>>121985137
I like it because it can clear annoying fuckers quick. Sure, it's not always useful, but sometimes I need a clear and songai have nothing except pure damage to do it, unless you run deathwhatever seal. Since he also has 5 life it wont be instacleared either. It's also my answer to memester mechaz0rd decks, sending that fucker with inner focus never gets old
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>>121970854
>how do i make the opponent general want to back the fuck off

Deploy blast in last column

The enemy will either try to close the distance to attack them or you'll force him into poor positioning

Vetruvian decks are at their best when abusing blast and that one spell that summons a dervish in front of everyone (also ignore the obelysk that gives dervishes health because that shit is useless) plays into that because avoiding blast leaves you open for it
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>>121985504
Why the fuck do you even need anything to counter Mechaz0r? Not only does no one play it, it's also incredibly weak and inconsistent. You can luck out and get Mechaz0r on turn 2, sure, but there's also the chance that it takes 4-5 turns, and the parts themselves are really pisspoor minions
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So... Sarlac isn't worth keeping anymore?

Abyssian is my secondary so I'm not sure if I want to dust him.
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Is Magmar hilariously overpowered or am I just bad? I've been playing for a couple weeks using the starter cards and the randoms ive gotten out of about 9 packs or so and managed to get to rank 12 and still climbing easily. The only problem is that my win rate against Magmar is somewhere around 10%.

What are you supposed to do? Everything I play gets hit by removal and it's all so cheap they still have mana left to drop stuff on the board.
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Seems like I can't download the Launcher, could someone upload it or something ?
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>>121988263
Control Mag is probabily the strongest deck atm
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>>121988263
Even with a properly constructed deck, Magmar is incredibly tough to deal with. Control Mag is one of, if not the, strongest decks at the moment
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>>121985549
>The enemy will either try to close the distance to attack them or you'll force him into poor positioning
Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt you fucking wish, Pyromancers rarely last more than 2 turns due to the tons of dispels / damages spells you can throw at it
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Post your magma control lists
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>>121988456
Are you x32? It doesn't work for that
Also the dl doesn't work try the mirror
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>>121990415
Yep, thanks the mirror worked.
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I'm so fucking sick of rush Lyonar and control Magmar.
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>>121991497
Better than Abysshit
I play Vanar so I'm fucked in every case
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>18 minutes match against Healyonar
>He concedes

Fucking boring.
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Post lyonar decks
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Bets?
Man what a waste of 150 gold
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>Sexy Lyonar gauntlet deck including Zurael, Jax Truesight, and Lady Locke
>Go 4-0 with easy games
>Come up against a magmar
>He just rolls his face across the keyboard dropping rebirth minions and removing everything I play

I should just concede against magmar to save time from here on out
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>>121995521
I've gotten this far and only lost to bad card draws. You'll get 7 wins at least anon
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Is p2w Vetruvian still viable after the Sarlac nerf?
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>>121997414
>Sarlac nerf

WHAT.
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>>121997951
It costs 3 mana now. Or eventually, I don't know if it's in effect already.
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>>121998157
It is already, I think. Full refund for a week
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>>121997394
2-3
Admittedly i ducked up bad one game
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>>121997951
>>121998157
>oh no, my insanely op card that desperately needed a nerf got nerfed!
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EVERYONE is laddering with magmar now. What are some effective magmar crushing decks?
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All of these are mediocre, do I go Lux or Purgatos?
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>>121998913
None.
>>121998347
To be fair that card was the backbone of most abysshitter and veytruvian decks, I play lyonar only but it really feels like a kick in the nuts to those decks.

Magmar is the only one that really needs a nerf.
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>>121998983
Do you really want to play as a furry.
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>>121998983
Oh come the fuck on, I don't even have Aymara outside of Gauntlet
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>>121999035
i've been having a lot of luck with songhai spell decks
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>>121999191
Ayymara best girl

>tfw no ara ara bot-san who keep you safe
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>>121999262
>she will never sit on your face
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>>121999318
>She sits on your face
>CANNOT MOVE WHILE PROVOKED
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>>121999493
AHHHHHH
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>>121999493
But you can attack.
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>magmar combo deck
Based one turn kills
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>>122003287
What's the combo?
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>>122003359
Flash reincarnation->elucidator->amplification->fractal replication
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>>122003287
>Guys I made a deck that rely enttirely on luck
>Am I good ?

lol
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>>122003926
>luck with full mulligans and replacing a card each turn
? Compared to mtg combo decks it's very reliable. Not to mention all the other spells and creatures in the deck just stall and give you time
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>>122004324
>Reading comprehension

lol
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>>121997414
I'm wondering this too.
The card is not bad now, it's just not as incredibly good as it was before. It can still serve as a dispell bait for only 3 drop.
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Which is the best faction to start with for someone who likes R/W or R/B decks from MTG? Magmaar, Songhai, and Abyssian seem like good choices but I am not sure which to focus on first.
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>>122006937
magmar is the best faction currently
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>>122006937
Magamar is currently OP.

Abyssian and Lyonar are going to be the closest to RB and RW, respectively.
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>>122007064
>>122007232
Yeah but I want fun factions not just the OP ones

Still, I guess its a throdown between Abyssian and Magmaar.
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>>122007285
>Yeah but I want fun factions not just the OP ones
Then you don't want Abysshit or Fagmar
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>>122007403
Are they that hated?
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>>122007489
Abysshit are assholes that will always take 30 seconds to move a minion and another 30 to move the general.

Fagmar's idea of fun is running away the whole game shitting out instant kills spells. It does work, but (and saying that as someone that tried it) it's as boring as the game can get.
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>>122007821
What about Songhai then?
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>>122007821
>this mad because he loses to abyssian and magmar decks
lmao
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>>122007934
As slow as Abysshit, psssssssht nothing personnel faction (literally, they're built around backstab). Pretty meh to play with or against as it boils down to whether or not you draw the combos you need. And if you don't you can always spam instant damages spells that take out a third of the enemy general's life to win.
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>>122008096
What did he say wrong ?
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>>122007285
Every faction can be fun.
Lyonar is rushing down, in your face, healing, and buffs. It's a clear red/white in mtg terms.

Songhai is all biding time until you burst out damage. It's like rogues in hearthstone, you just wait for that big play.

Magmar is like green/black in magic. Big dudes, tons of removal. Wins through board control and extremely god at tempo.

Abyssian spews out dudes constantly and can burst. Sort of like black/white token decks.

Vetruvian is a slow, end game control faction. Establishing your obelisks, hard removal, and big finishers. Totally destroyed by dispel and certain other cards.

Vanar is about board control and to some extent control. You try to pin your foe in and flood the map with dudes, with some bounce and some soft removal.

There's a very general overview of each faction. Now the artists will tell me why I'm wrong.
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what's your go-to gauntlet faction?

right now it's songhai since everyone seems to be rushing magmar.
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>>121985893
Well if unsure you can always dust now and remake later if its rough without it
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how to build magmar control?
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>>121944686
>see cool sprites in op
>love sprite art
>should check it out
>mfw favorite game is final fantasy tactics
>mfw play infinity miniatures

god bless this thread.
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>>122008740
>hard removal
Are you implying Vet have good removals spells ?
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>>122009785
your gay
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>>122010247

i dont own any gays.
does anyone have a referral code?
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>>122009785
Welcome brother
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>>122010873
it's in open beta

gay
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>>122011026

when you make an account there is an option for a referral code. does that not give the person who referred you bonus stuff?

faggot
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>>121984703
which is better? Lantern Fox or Scarlet Viper?
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Can you use mark of solitude on ranegd units?
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>>122011119
no

use the code redditpals for a free 100 gold

no i'm not kidding
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So at what rank will I start going up against optimized decks?
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>>122011741
they'll start creeping up on you at 20 and up, since there are a decent amount of golds/diamonds fucking around in silver trying out new shit/just getting around to climbing for the end of the month

but nothing serious until 10 and up for the most part. Even 10 has a decent amount of wiggleroom for you
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>>122011445

yes
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>>122010873
redditpals for 100g
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I hate leonar's zeal mechanic. He gets rewarded for something the fuck does naturally.
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>>122009871
Well they definitely remove a dude. They aren't great but they do that.
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>In the next few weeks we will be moving DUELYST over to our PRODUCTION data center region, and will finally be off the BETA grid we've been running for the past 6 months.
Will our game/threads finally not be dead?
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>divine bond on that fucking 2/15 or ironcleef
This is so retarded.
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>>122013180
>don't have le dogge of many epin plays or dispells
>they play that
My wrath.
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>>122012916
Every faction do that, some get it for a cheaper cost, some get something else out of it.

Vet is the only faction which require the general to be nearby for the spell to work.
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>>122013505
I feel some generals should have more/less HP.
Vet being one of them.

Alternatively a Obelisk that gives your general +1 health for each dervish that dies
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>>122013637
>vets need more hp
>implying they need to be buffed
What makes you even think this?
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>>122013936
Everyone else has health regen
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>>122013637
Neat idea, that could finally make use of the windstorm obelysk
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>>122014030
>Songhai
>Vanar
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>>122014030
Vet get Aymara Healer, they don't need healing spells.
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>>122014089
besides those guys
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>>122013427
yeah I feel like this game is too reliant on dispel for balance.
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>>122014253
You can also move it, kill it, or move around it. It's good but it's not like dispel is rare or the only answer.
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>>122014089
4winds
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>>122014378
The thing is if you didn't answer it in 1 turn, you're fucked.
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>>122014434
Personally I feel like it should get a small nerf to it's health and that's all it would take.
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>>122014741
I was talking about the grant dmg for health spell, not the units themselves. Though I always considered ironbeef to be really wtf statish.
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>>122014841
Right, no need to nerf divine bond. Just reduce the insane health pool a bit.
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>tfw you can almost feel the plasma storm coming
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>>122015940
Plasma Storm is so fucking OP, unless you're an absolute retard as playing Magmar, it's a free "Wipe most of the other guy's board once you've hit 4 mana" card
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rip
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>dancing blades

what is considered IN FRONT?
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>everyone finally stopped bitching about healyonar and went on to magmar hate
Gotta get my easy ranks up fast before the nerfs
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>>122016496
The direction your general is facing.
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>>122016379
magmar cancer
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So, what have you been using as a 3 drop to replace Locking Lady?

I've heard Mirkblood Devourer fits nicely, at least is likely to eat a dispel.

Anyone has tried Chaos Elemental? Considering him as a 3-drop for my Magmar Control. Any thoughts?
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>>122016379
Stop blowing all your load at once. Plasma storm is broken but you know what Magmar can do, you should play around it.
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Tempest and Plasma Storm seem criminally cheap for what they do. In a card game, globals are not so bad since you always have the board in front of you. But in this game, the tempo lost from trying to rush Magmar before they drop an Elder is massive, like game winningly strong.

Even if they don't use it early game, lategame metamorphosis/storm is still a thing. I'm probably just going back to HS now that they're releasing a new adventure tomorrow. I got 2k gold saved up there so I could farm for the new wings.
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>>122016930
Eh, it was gauntlet anyway. I just thought it would be funny if I predicted it.
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>>122017282
>dude drafted pretty much magmar control in gauntlet
LITERALLY HOW
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>>122017402
He just had a plasma storm, it was nothing special. He DID have one elder though.
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>>122016496
the single square directly in front of the minion, in the direction it's facing
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>playing Magmar control for the first time
>blowing shit up and summoning elders
This is pretty gay desu senpai
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Holy shit I fucking suck at this game.
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Griff
Griff if you're in here
you have the best, most hilarious magmar deck I have ever seen, I almost felt bad for winning against you. About the fourth or fifth time you primordial'd me I just could not stop fucking laughing. This game needs replays real bad.
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>>122020098
*griffe
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>>122020098
Nice blog, can I share it?
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How many wins do you need for gauntlet to be worth? I think I can scrape by with maybe 2 wins
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>>122021206
please do anon
spread it far and wide
I want this message to reach that beautiful man and his beautiful deck
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>>122019789
You are playing a deck about giant dinosaur lizard people with no tits. It's going to be real gay.
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Game is dead for anyone else?
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Jesus fuck, why is leveling Songhai's starter deck the most painful thing imaginable.
And whose bright idea was it to make board control cards the last thing you get in the starter decks?

>>122022785
Just went down for me.
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>>122021228
I got a shit draft and won three times. Got a booster, 30g and a bunch of spirit. Got a Lego in the booster too and disenchanted it so it was p good
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>>122022826
Take the starter and throw some Rockys into it.
Try that 2/3 that heals you, as well.

Are you trying some sort of challenge thing? You should have started by changing it.
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>>122022539
And that is perfect
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>>122022539
>tfw no lizardtits
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>>122023083
Just thought I'd get all the classes leveled, but yeah I might just have to modify all of the decks.
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>>122023417
>tfw massive faggot
>Deck type all about big beefy dino men
>Another deck about purple demon husbandos
I love it when games accidentally pander to me. You can always tell they never thought it through.
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>>122023417
Literally cancer mherm>male>cboy>girl>shit>girl with tits
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What class do you consider the weakest? What would you call the strongest?
What kind of changes should be done to the weakest and strongest classes for balance?
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>>122023775
Vanar
Magmar
Give vanar some actual good cards and mechanics kek
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>>122021228
supposedly you break even at 2 wins
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>>122023986
>>122021228
You get an orb and some spirit even if you lose every time, so I'm sure it's not hard.
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>>122023775
Let Vanar reverse the side on which Infiltrate, Avalanche and Spirit of the Wild actually take effect so they can be more consistent
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>>122023579
I don't understand
does thinking it through mean that they would go "hang on a second, this might pander to this one gay anon who likes bara lizard men and purple penis'd succubi?"
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>>122024162
>>122023986
>>122023020
k thanks I'll give it a shot
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>>122024575
>implying I'm some kind of degenerate who is into herms
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>>122024789
>implying herms are degenerate
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>>122024789
>Not being into the shedick
It's the best of the gay and straight spectrums, you'd be hella weird not to dig it
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>>122025010
I don't want lovers who just have gross pair of butt cheeks stapled to their chests and have the face of anime whores, sorry.
We should probably stop baiting lewd posts now and actually talk about the game.
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>>122025223
Sure thing. Have you praised papa Vaath today by kicking a child?
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>>122025480
Yes. We are IMMORTAL
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If you go first as ragnaros you instawin this brawl, just surrender until you get him first turn to win.
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>>122025612
>Supposedly immortal
>Takes as many hits as a little girl with way too much lipstick and no armor
He needs to step it up
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>>122025480
No sadly. I main Abyssian right now because I just enjoy the mechanics. I've been wanting to play Vaath recently for "reasons" and his cards are crazy strong, but seeing how I opened a Sarlac on my second pack and a Lady Loch on my seventh I've been bound to the "Abyssian Deathwatch/summon spam" shindig.
Judging from all the talk on Magmar control it seems it will be getting nerfed soon. I'm guessing it will be the board wipe and one of the neutral legendaries it runs will take the hit. Also,
>Abyssian has such a shitty board wipe you have to use the crap common boardwipe creature instead
Why does it even heal? Nothing about abyssian cares about healing. Most of the cards have shit health anyway. If it did damage based on wraithlings or shadow creep it at least would be playable.
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>>122025860
wrong general friend
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What's /vg/ opinion on this cunt? I like his viking stye, but he seems a little weak with only 4 attack and he ain't a vespyr.
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>>122028032
For 6 mana its pretty shitty. 6 mana should pretty much be a game ending threat or a board securing card
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>>122028032
he is vespyr though, check ingame
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>>122028032
I'd suck his dick.
I wouldn't put him in a deck though. He's too slow and not really that rewarding to get the dying wish off. If his Dying wish was to freeze all nearby enemy creatures I would consider him in a control deck.
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Excuse me but can someone show me where the patch notes are? I can't seem to find them in the forum.
Fuck that forum.
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>>122030209
Literally on the front page
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>>122030209
Literally only thing that matters is the sarlac nerf
2->3 mana cost
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>play against enemy
>lose narrowly
>requeue get him again
>win narrowly
Best games
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It is of my opinion that Lyonar players are tremendous boy-molesting fruits.
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>>122033746
Im inclined to agree
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>>122033746
As a Lyonar player who molests both little boys and little girls, I find this accusation of being a fruit quite offensive.
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>>122034425
I would go so far as to say you are not only a fruit but a basket of fruits. A basket case as far as I am concerned. Good day to you, and farewell.
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Rip servers again?
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>>122037737
Of course, I fucking owned as hell the freaking Magmar in Gauntlet and...
ONE MOMENT -_-
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>>122033206
Were you abyssian playing Vanar?
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I'm against the whole waifu retarded shit that's going on in most online videogames, but I can't deny that it sells well. If the devs want this game to skyrocket they should make the female character's art more waifu-able. They need to do something about those awful thick lips.
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What if generals could heal up to 30 HP?
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>>122038774
>If they want people to get into this game they need to make the waifus into something I'd bone!
I'd rather they make the game balanced and interesting to play.
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>>122039074
>Slower games
>Control would be the only archetype
>Uninstall
This game is good also because games are fast.
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>>122039074
Classes with good heal tools would be better over all. Also what the other anon said, it would be more control oriented. Burn decks would become very mediocre over all.
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>>122039156
Porque no los dos?
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>finally, i got lyonar so i can get more than 5 wins
>this happens
NICE GAME
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>>122039638
>Put a Sunmaiden away for Tempest
>Play Tempest
>gg easy noob
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>>122039590
What I'm saying is trying to cater to waifu/husbando fags is stupid, and also some people find thick lips hot.
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>>122039896
No tempest, only broken dreams.
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>>122040143
Thick lips are shit though. They should put that extra meat in the breasts desu
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Are vetruvians bottom tier or am I just bad?

Do I just need better cards? (only cracked a few packs sofar)
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>>122041364
Vetruvian needs lots of legends and epics to be good.
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>>122040641
>breasts
Loli hero when
who /team flat/ here
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>>121964050
>Why would they nerf my factions when the factions I lose to are the problem?
Magmar needs a nerf tho.
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It never hit me until now but isn't Songhai literally the

>teleports behind you
>unsheathes katana

faction?
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>>122041701
Abyssian got a big nerf with the Sarlac nerf. Sarlac Nerf also made Magmar better. Lyonar is annoying but I don't think it's too strong.

>>122041820
Literally yes.
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>>122041364
If you played Hearthstone, think of Vetruvian as the Wallet/Control Warrior.
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why doesn't this game have any lewd fanart

y'all are talking about sucking huge lizard dick and abyssian sluts but there's nothing here
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>>122043291
Dead game m8
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>>122043291
It was mostly me and the weeb person who keeps talking in moon speak, and I stopped engaging in it because it's bad for the thread.
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fuck these faction daily quests
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>>122044092
They said they were considering separate ranks for the factions so you don't have to shit around with a basic deck for the quest if you dusted everything for a faction you don't play.
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>>122041364
vet are expensive
songhai, abyss and magmar are the three competitive, low cost factions you can use for ladder climbing
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I'm so tired of seeing what's basically regular control magmar in draft. How the fuck do people get so lucky>
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Sucks that these threads are dead ever since they got banished to vg. Meanwhile indivisible is getting shilled 24/7 on /v/.
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>>122049590
They aren't allowed on /v/ anymore?
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>>122049590
It'll pick up when they do steam release. Im glad it's kinda slow
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If the guy who tried to add me like 5 times only to tell me that it was a close game posts here and get fucking angry, jesus christ buddy, relax, you're going to get an aneurysm one of these days


On topic, Black Locust is just free dust, right? I got another one on a pack and I can't think of any situation in which it would survive long enough to do anything. Might be interesting paired with a Vindicator but nothing really game-changing
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>>122024670
well I went 0-3 first one was a draw and realized I could've just won instead of draw as I attacked him
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>>122049590
More devs should just shill on /v/. It's not even hard, all you have to do is stoke the fire and make sure your game's picture is on the front page.

It's pretty disgusting how blatant it is with that other game though.

>game isn't even out yet
>shitty "prototype"
>asking for exorbitant amounts of money
>somehow there are constant threads up for weeks, DAILY, with the same questions and arguments paraphrased every thread
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Yay, free epic!
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>>122051432
>not just blindly shoving that into your deck and rationalizing its purpose afterwards because it's a lego
It's got a fucking orange icon
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>>122051660
I know what a good lego is, and that right there is a shitpile that hurts you more than your opponent.
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>>122051432
Based free purps
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>can't spend money to start Gauntlet runs

Why the fuck isn't this in the game? Do they not want my money?
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>New Player
>Building an Abyss deck slowly
>Finally save for one sarlac
>Now Abyss is shit according to everyone.

whelp. I guess I'm done.
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>>122056429
They'll buff Abyss eventually. You can work on a different deck like Magmar instead, which is pretty cheap.
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Is there a more cancerous card than 2x2 shadowcreep?
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Whelp I just wasted a gauntlet ticket. Decided to dick around with Vanar, went 0-3 against 3 different Magmar players. Why did i ever think this was a good idea? I'm retarded.
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Fucking lags are back again.
Literally kill yourselves devs
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Been playing for a few days or so. Have a kinda shitty magmaar deck i've made from drops and crafting, if I posted it would I be able to get any advice on what to do to improve it or change it?
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>>122058768
You will probably be laughed at, also the thread is dead for now so try later.
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>>122056967
A 4 mana board wipe that hits everything with 3 power or less.

>>122057551
If you can't take the dino donger, join it.

>>122058768
I'd try the official game forum. Kinder fellows and there is bound to be a decent magmar deck list with how strong it is.
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>3:0 in gauntlet
>feeling pretty good
>get matched up with 2 S-ranks in a row
>not feeling so good anymore
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>playing gauntlet to distract me from the crushing loneliness of no gf
>go 0-3
Is there a worse feel?
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>>122060191
having a gf but having her get kekolded by the 3 people you lost against in arena and losing her over it.
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>Already have Jax Truesight
>Have my choice of Sarlac the Nerfed or a Spicy Revenant
Hot damn.
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>>122051781
it's p awesome if you have a draw deck
it would be way cooler if it was 1/1, cost 4 and said "both you and your opponent draw one less card"
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Dead game
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>>122064260
ded cock in your mums swollen cunt lips
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I am fairly certain that global effects like Tempest or Plasma Storm are not appropriately costed in this game, the same goes for other big effects like Deathwatch: from Dancer and Moon with infinite scaling game winning effects.

In a game of war be it strategy or tactics based, positioning has some value. This is not only in video games but also board or miniature games. The turns it takes you to move, the tempo gained or lost and the board presence are all important aspects of turn based games.As such, it's very hard to balance out effects that are omnipresent. Effects that apply to all units in the game regardless of position should be heavily regulated and involve thought. What I see with a lot of cards like Metamorphosis, Plasma Storm, Tempest and others are rookie design mistakes found in short lived games.

It's natural to create thematic strong selling points for your factions but the duelyst team is really going to have to step up if they want a balanced, fun game. It's really hard for them to enter this market because of Hex, MtG and HS as is so we can only hope they don't go full retard.
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Repulsor beast might as well just be a free fucking removal. By the time the minion gets back the fight is already over.
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>>122066773
MAGNETIZE
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>>122066773
A lot of armies have teleport spells.
Your minion being across the board means you can play ranged units, long winde-up units, or flying units near them with safety.
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>>122066895
Every time someone has played that card against me it has utterly rektified me. But I wonder how many times it just sits in their hand being useless.
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>>122067062
I run one in all my Lyonar decks because it's not uncommon to have people down to 10 or less HP and it's easy to second son or divine bond rape them. I wouldn't recommend running more than 1 though, it's useless most of the time and you want the other slots to wear people down and crush them before the lategame.
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why is there basically nothing good in the 3 drop slot
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>>122068126
Sarlac
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>>122068126
>Lyonar
>Suddently, a 3/5 with taunt
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>>122068828
>8/5 with taunt
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So post cards you think need to be nerfed. Scions 3rd wish and Lyonars Arcwhatever regalia for me
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>Playing Lyonar
>Other players actually thinking crashing into me works

Seriously, why do people think face slamming into the faction full of Taunts, Heals, and Buffs is going to work ever?
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Well memed
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>>122070249
Scion is fine because you need 3 minions to use it. Less bullshit than that Abyssian spell boosting everyone's attack
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>>122070519
with stuff like dervishes and orb weavers its easy to get 3 units out , Plus that star move that gives a dervish infront of every unit.
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>>122070249
-Healing Mystic either nerfed or just create better 2 mana neutral drops. Really, she's in EVERY deck.
-Holy Immolation absolutely
-Something of Magmar regarding his control spells
Vetruvian'sThird Wish shit+Star Wish (or how's called)'s bullshit, it's almost like Rampage+Savage Roar of HS
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>>122071390
How can you actually nerf magmar without gutting the faction? the problem with magmar is literally all the cards are good. Silithar elder I guess could be nerfed, but honestly it's not the problem. Maybe nerf plasma storm to 2 instead of 3? or make it cost 1 more?
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>>122072109
>Silithar Elder
>Summon a Silithar Elder egg on a random nearby tile at the beginning of your turn
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>Your hero becomes 10/10
Cancermar nerf when
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>>122072109
I think increasing Mana costs would be the best thing. If he wants to mass control everything he has to sacrifice mana
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>>122071390
Mystic nerfed to 1/3
Immolation nerfed to 5 mana?
Egg Morph removed or changed somehow, seriously, that card is far too strong. Makantor Warbeast increased to 5/4 with Rush and "Grow: Gain Frenzy"?
Third wish changed to "Give a minion +3/+0. For each card you've drawn this turn, give another minion +3/+0" perhaps? It could be abused with Mogwai of course, but at least it requires more than just 2 cards for a 15 damage combo
>>122072315
It's not even one of Magmar's best spells, it's incredibly situational. I wouldn't even sideboard it
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How the fuck do I get good with maagmaar?
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>>122073494
Get Warbeasts
Get Egg Morph
Get Elders
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>>122073494
kill yourself
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>>122072109
>people complaining about plasma storm
>it cost fucking 4 mana and it kill your own unit unless you buff it
I just get rekt by the same vetruvians 4 times in a row even though i had plasma storm. Aymara healer is op as fuck for 6 mana with multiple side effects. Then i get rekt by super buff portal guardian when it survive a turn without getting mana burn because lel star furry.

Magmar has its own niches while a fucking vanar could send back your 7 mana summon for 2 mana.
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>>122073689
and if your hand is full, it's just removed altogether

hailstone prison is fucked up
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>>122073494
get silithar baby, veteran and elder. Skip those +1/+1 , +2/+2 growth minions. Collosus is okay but don't put it when against vetruvian because zenrui. The 3 mana minion that gives +2/+2 is amazing too. Stocked on heals. Get at least 2 markantor beast. Claw is optional.

The idea is to always 1 minion with 4 attack while controlling the board and smashing your opponent's face.
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>>122073001
>nerf this
>nerf that
I think at this point we are running out of content so we want to modify current contents. We need more cards or some quests like those filthy hearthstone.
At least something to do outside of banging my head to climb ladder against the same guy.
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>>122074050
Is Elucidator worth it? I have enough spirit to craft 3 of them now, or 1 Makantor warbeast and 1 elucidator. I have none of either. Or I could craft 2 more kolossus.
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>>122074256
Never heard of Elucidator wombo combo with Fractal Replication?
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>>122074307
Nope. I only started playing a few days ago.
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>lose
>win
>lose
>win
>lose
>win
WAKE ME UP
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>>122074356
It's 15 damage to the face that cannot be avoided in a control deck. And people complain about muh star fury nd muh songais conbos amIright :^)?
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>>122075230
>15

you mean 33
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>>122075191
>stomp every game except the ones that take me to the next rank
CANT WAKE UP
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>>122074356
it's great if you have reincarnation and fractal.
Fractal is broken spells

The combo is basically doable at 8 mana and 2 spell(0 mana) that give your minion +3 attack when it's injured. Basically you summon elucidator with reincarnation (2 mana), steroid it with + 3 attack once or twice(0 mana), fractal replication to create 2 more of these "rush" faggots(6 mana). BAM! You have one hit turn kill.

Honestly i think it's great to have it but not worth to force 3 of them in your deck. Warbeast is great to replicate too, if it ever survive a turn.
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>>122075410
8*3=24
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>>122075573
>match against full decked legendaries vetruvian
>have 300 wins in vet and Abyssian
Save me from the dark!
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>>122075646
>Just need 1 win to reach Diamond
>Found S Rank with 500 wins with every faction
>He deletes me in 5 turns
>Stares the screen for 30 mins
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>>122075741
kek
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>>122075626
>Not buffing him to 11 attack
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Dang, I never played Abyssian but I run 3 Sarlacs in my Vet

Is he still worth running or should I embrace the dust?

I'm not entirely sure what I would even run instead
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>>122076578
embrace the dust. It's not worth it. Swarm is better spell on abyssian.
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>>122075230
because it require 3 cards to play it right. Vet just need only 2. songhai has all those cheap mana and could pull off earlier than 8 mana combo.
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>>122076986
And Vet requires you to not position yourself like a retard

Fuck off Fagmar
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reminder that the lyonar attack equal to hp card should be nerfed
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>>122077042
>position
yeah and how do you do that if you want to pin vetruvian or disperse away from this 4/7 star scarab?
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>>122077402
>Dispels don't exist
>Ranged don't exist
>Positioning your minions in pack so the number of Dervishes summoned by Star's Fury will be at least halfed is not possible

Guess Fagmar really have it easy then.
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I don't understand why the devs keeps nerfing minor annoyances when Magmar exists.
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Anyone here spend money on this game?
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>>122077532
>dispel star scarab
>it still has 4/5
>going after vetruvian because he's a faggot who keep running away
>put a cheap range for good luck charm
>summon star furry, kill my generals anyway despite only have 2 minions
kay
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>>122078179
Shit's way too expensive
When I can get more than a pack a day through playing, more than 1€ per pack just seems like too much
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>>122078179
Some did upward to 300 bucks. Meh, it's not worth it at the moment. Contents are slow and little. You will get bored after a season.

I can easily reach platinum with budget deck except when vets decide to show up at higher ranks.
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>>122078179
I got a 50pack because I like the game too much
;_;
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Cancer Tier (1. is most cancerous)
1. Magmar
2. Lyonar
3. Abyssian
4. Songhai
5. Vanar
6. Vetruvian
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>>122079050
>pussyhurt vetshitter
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>>122079050
Vanar actually.
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>>122079281
>>122079207
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>Second pack
Is Black Locust alright? He looks cool as hell.
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>>122079512
If he summoned the clone on his original space, he'd be pretty great. As it is, he's just dispelbait, expensive dispelbait at that
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>>122079512
In this game there's stuff like tempest and plasma storm. What do you think?

It's a dumb card though. It can stomp some factions and it gets painful if you can't deal with it in the turn that is dropped.
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>>122080327
I just started playing yesterday.

>>122079881
Unfortunate though, he looks cool.
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>>122080421
The card looks neat, but he can be removed by a 1 cost Lyonar card for an example. A card most lyonar players will run just because its a cheap removal card for situations like this.

That's why it's not good. It can be soundly countered by a card that's 3 mana cheaper.
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>>122080557
Nearly every card can be countered for a 0 mana card from Vet, your argument is significantly flawed. What makes Locust bad is the fact that it's just collateral whenever you blow up the board with Tempest or Plasma Storm. If The original Locust had Rush, it'd actually be useful for something
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>>122080869
And that it's super slow, 4 mana 2/2 that doesn't do anything on the turn it's played by default is just weak in this game
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Been playing for a day, got this guy out of my first orb. Is he good? Also, how big is a chance to get legendaries?
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>Looking through the cards
>Ironcliffe Guardian
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>>122082305
Teleport plus 12 heal at best
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>>122082335
On the faction that has a 'give minion attack equal to its health' spell
Have fun
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>>122082717
>Leave a minion alone
>WHAT ARE TEH CHANCES H-
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>>122082843
Every fucking time
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>>122082843
>Ironcliffe Guardian
>Airdrop provoke 10 HP
Even if you don't leave it alone, unless you have a "make this minion just vanish" card handy, it's over for you
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>>122082305
You have to be very good at baiting dispels for it to be worth it, or you have to be able to literally kill your own general on the turn he comes out.
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>>122082341
for it to be 12 you'd have to be 0 HP
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>>122083757
You're generally at 0 hp when you die
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we did it boys
if you look closely you can see the exact moment my opponent decided to uninstall the game
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So before I even attempt to play this how reasonable is the grind for getting new cards?
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Why is the 100g for Orb thing still broken?
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>>122090574
Less than hearthstone, still boring as shit.
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>>122090574
early on you are inundated, then you get 1 pack per faction you level up to 11 which can be done fairly quickly while you're playing with the original decks to decide what faction you like the style of most, then once you've gotten all the special drops out of the way you can basically get a guaranteed pack a day from quests. Do not ever hesitate to re-roll a quest you don't like. This isn't like valve rerolling; the timer will not be reset, there's literally no downside to rerolling a quest.

if you still haven't been able to decide on a faction, build some pauper decks and run them as alternates
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>>122090620
it isn't for me
you tried both getting it from the armory and from the unlock screen?
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>>122090574
>>122090773
also like 8 packs worth of gold from the puzzles
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>>122090846
I didn't know there was an unlock screen. Where is it?
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>>122090952
When you open the orbs, the blue string on the bottom-right
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>>122091008
oh thanks. Well it's still not working but I sent a support ticket so hopefully I can play this game again soon.
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How do I not suck at gauntlet? I played it once with my free ticket and lost 0-3
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>>122091924
>draft magmar
>get lucky and draft some of the control bombs
>win
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>>122092074
I find drafting lyonar way more consistent
heals and provoke all day
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So, I recognize my deck building is terrible and this is what I have at the moment. What should I change out?
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>>122092656
>2nd wish
>3 astral pashing
>more than 1 inner oasis
>imperial mechanyst even with obelisk it's still shit
>artifact hunter but no wild ankh
>hex blade but no zenrui
I don't know man. Have you tried it? It's all over the place.
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>>122093019
I could tell that I ended up spreading myself too thin to try to counter stuff so that's why asked. I always seem to end up doing that whenever I try to build a deck.
I had a different squad than that but I replaced it and I don't remember what it had then I tried this one once and of course I got beat badly.
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>>122092656
I don't think that archanist and general magic deck works that well with vetruvian. IMO you should change to songgai if you want to use spells because their faction archanists are pretty fucking goodand they have direct damage.
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r8, i know i have too many singletons but i'm lacking a lot of cards and being able to mulligan is too good
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>>122083757
Consider it like this.
In the best case scenario, it is deep enough into the game that your opponent is out of dispels and hard removal, letting you not only spend an entire turn playing this guy, but an entire second tutn buffing him to hell and back so that when your general dies you have a big beefy form to go into.
In that case he is a "win more" card.

In most scenarios you are in the shit and play him away from the front line so that you can suicide your general for one last attack, in which case heal 12 and teleport.
In this case he is a very expensive emergency card, that doesn't actually stabilize your board position, but instead hopes your opponent whiffs a turn.

There are cases where you manage to drop him without him getting dispelled, enabling suicide tactics, just as there are situations where your opponent is out of hard hitting gas in his aggro deck, making a heal 12 huge.
Both of those situations is ungodly rare.
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>>122093357
I'm not a big fan of Songhai, I've disenchanted basically all of my Lyonar/Songhai/Vanar cards cause I liked how the other factions worked (I wasn't exactly experienced enough to see what Sarlac was like either)
Then suffering from the euphoria of getting multiple legendaries in here compared to HS got me to buy a bunch of orbs and now I'm at the point where I have a lot of tools but no clue what would work
I'm an Abyss trying to have variety and work with other factions.
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Does this game even have lore?
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>>122094141
They're going to add it soon

No seriously they're really interested into it.
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>>122093146
remove hexblade. I have never ever seen one in gold and above being played and i don't think it's good too. Mechanyst is a shit unit because it's 3 mana and shit status. 2nd wish is a shit cards because how flexible our cards drawing is, 2 cards and 1 replace for every turn. Can't get better than that. Inner oasis done nothing but waiting for your opponent to rape you next turn, it's great but not that great.

Astal phasing is usually played with portal guardian because you want it to be mobile killing machine. You should have 2 stars' furry and 2 third wish so you have a chance to draw more of it. Cosmic flesh is great but the 4 mana make it too much situational.

Manaforger is shit on vet. Artifact hunter isn;t that great either. Try to get star scarab because it's really good, it's like mossgolem but better. Play 2 mana obelysk and fire obelysk. Skip the wind one because it's retarded and most often block your path.Get 1 displacing dog when you have no answer to beefy minion, Aymara healer is the best, put 2 of them in the deck.prysmatic illusionist isn't vetruvian's cup of tea.

replace hexblade for wild ankh and reduce ykir to 2 cards.

You can replace healing mystics/manaforger/prismatic illusionist with obelysk. Either replace cosmic flesh with that 4 mana summon provoke or keep only 1 of cosmic flesh. Get portal guardian if you are wishing to play astral pahsing (keep 1 or 2 only)

That's all that i can think of.
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>>122094219
I hope to god they add quests too because i am fucking bored already.
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why does magmar have so many healing spells. Why does Healyonar even exist
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>>122094287
Is the extra turn card used?
Also what about the clone for 4 mana?
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Are The Adeptus Gate challenges really hard or I'm just dumb as a brick? Cracked just one so far, really don't want to look this shit up on youtube.
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>>122094707
Look that shit on you tube, some hints lie at some point.
And you want to clear that shit fast
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Ended up being a Mechaz0r race mirror match. Is Mech even doable on Abyssian.
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>>122094958
Abyss has really good cheese, and meh draw. They also have easy hard removal.
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>>122094958
I don't see why not. Use Darkfire Sacrifice to shit out more parts?
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>>122094958
How does mechazor work exactly? I've never seen it completed and I always blow them up before they combine
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>>122094707
I had trouble with about three challenges in total and I think it always turned out that I was just being illiterate
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>>122095273
It's nothing fancy like that. You get 20% completion every time you summon a part, at 100% you get a spell that summons Mechaz0r on any part of the field. It's nothing spectacular
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>>122095273
they don't combine progress is kept regardless
You get a mechazord with airdrop and shit after you reach 100%, he's good if the oponent is not ready but overall shit
>>122095417
This in few words
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>>122094707
I think two or three of them require knowing interactions that aren't actually clear until you see them.

The others just require a lot of number crunching.
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>>122095513
I really want to try some kind of Mechaz0r weenie Magmar deck because of Vindicator, but control Mag is sooo strong. And I have no Vindicunts
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>>122095273
>>122095417
mechazor is 8/8 Airdrop,Ranged,Frenzy Can't be targeted by any spells
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Spirit harvesters in Magmar control y/n?
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>>122095764
Debatable because Warbeasts and Plasma Storm provide a truckload of clear as it is. I use a single Spirit Harvester personally
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Anons from a few threads back told me that i should be able to get to at least gold with this deck.

I'm still literally stuck at 15-18 am i missing something here or do i really have bad draws every game?
I'm starting to think that i should dust these and just craft ezpz factions like magmar or vanar.
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>>122095830
What kinda list you running? I've seen some expensive lists running Alcuin dude and the archon spellbinder but I only have one of each. My list isnt super optimized so I currently run out of removal occasionally
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>>122096013
This is my current deck, breached rank 6 yesterday, gonna get my diamond today probably. It's not perfect by any means, I use Mirkblood, Zurael and Synja because those are some legos I happened to have lying around, and I'm still missing a Meta
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>>122095619
I just built my first vindicator and seriously the shit he does to your magmar control is absolutely moronic
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>>122095880
>he thinks he's not in the ezpz faction
>he thinks vanar is the ezpz faction

well this just convinced me that everyone thinks their faction is legit and just thinks factions with strong spells against theirs are OP
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>>122094614
>extra turn card
Not sure about it . I have never played the deck before

>4 mana mimic
Too situational. You are either expecting doesn't fuck your up, minion has rush, opponent's minion can be dispel and yours have buffed. Get scorching blind that turn attack into 0(for 1-2 turns) and zinrui mind control. It's much better and love to see their face when they concede.

Btw you can remove oasis for bone swarm.
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>>122095880
Okay here is your issue:
One half of the deck is very control and late game oriented, while the other is very early game and value oriented, AND both halves are too weak to stand together.
So here are your choices, go shadow creep control or death watch midrange. I am running DW midrange currently and it's gotten me to gold fine.
Just some general changes I would go with are:
>Drop Bot. Unborn
>Drop the legos
>You can keep Zurael if you go hard death watch
>Lower the shadow dancer to 1 or 2 copies
>Get a lady Locke or two, they combo well with wraithling swarm and bloodmoon
>Consider dropping the Primus Sheildmasters
>Get that 3 copies of that one abyssian spell that costs 1, targets an opponents creature, and when it dies it deals 3 to all enemies near it
>Consider getting Sarlac the Nerfed
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>>122097043
Care to post your DW deck?
I'm failing at making a functional one
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>matchmaking now matches you to people who are also using starter decks

Finally I won't have to sacrifice my rank anymore.
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>>122095880
>ezpz factions
>vanar
>says the abysshiter player
Loving every laugh. Go to the official forum to cry about Sarlac too.
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>Plasma Storm

Literally why
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>>122097043
Thanks for the tip f@m.

>>122097474
I don't even have a Sarlac yet.
Speaking of, is it still viable? I mean the extra mana cost isn't that much of a hindrance is it?
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>>122097610
to deal with weenie spam
without it they'd have to make frenzy cheaper, and that shit would be broken as fuck.
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>>122097945
it's now deck specific, as opposed to abyss auto include

just like the lady locke change, really
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>>122097953
It costs 4 fucking mana, why do people complain about Star's Fury when Mana Storm is superior until the very last game ?
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>>122097945
Honestly, it's quite bad. I agree that Sarlac needed something because before it was pretty much an autoinclude in too many decks, and the stacks that he gave were broken as fuck. But whitout it the abys lost a shit load of power. Not that I care because I hate the faction, but yeah.
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>>122098052
>>122098108

I'm going for a deathwatch abyshitter deck and i really don't know if i should invest that 900 dust on Sarlac now, should i?
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>>122098075
I complain about star fury because if you are allowed to make 15 life in one turn without board control then your deck should be something like lantern fox songgai or full shadow creep abysshit. Sure, it's fuking annoying, but I can deal and live with it because it's built for that. Star fury and third wish though? 2 cards, you can autoadd it to any deck for sum mad comboz while you are making a full control deck and it works so well that you have the best of both worlds. Same with that fucking lizard and fractal replication on magmar.
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I don't even.
He kept literally disposing of every minion I had, I had a meek hand the whole time though.
If there's a faction I hate the most is Magmar, for the fucking genocide but vanar is as annoying.
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>>122098430
>15 life in one turn
>rely entirely on enemy positioning
>7 mana
>comparable to a 4 damage spell that can clear the whole grid of your minions if the fagmar has it in turn 4

lol
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>>122098075
because they built a deck and expected easy wins off it without factoring in counters

why does anyone in this game complain about anything

everybody invests their spirit in building a deck with combos they think will be game-ending, and that shit's an expensive investment. When your expensive combo is countered in one turn by a relatively inexpensive card (and they pretty much all can be) people get pissed because in their mind, they think they "should" have won
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>>122098569
Forgot picture because I'm a fag
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>>122097043
Is this good enough?
I kept the crawlers and shadow nova just so i could shit out damage late game if i can't set up deathwatch minions properly
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>>122098696
Damn raped by that scorpion lmao
>>122098430
You realize that the fractal lizard combo requires 4 cards and 8 mana? Its unreliable as fuck. Stars fury/3rd wish is two cards and doesn't require luck
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Give me your favorite healionar
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>>122098993
Kill you are self my man
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>>122098636
correction, that can clear the whole grid of your minions if you've been playing like an idiot who doesn't change their playstyle dependent on the faction they're playing against.

playing against vet? don't line your general up with your summons to avoid easy clears/harass

playing against vanar? force the fight mid column to give yourself room to maneuver against infiltrate.

playing against songhai? keep something at your back to have at least some defense against getting fucking OTK'd

playing against magmar? stagger your summons and focus on dispelling his to keep your advantage

playing against abyssian? stay close and bait out summons to maximize your aoe effectiveness

playing against lyonar? just keep dispelling I guess, that shit's cray
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>>122099146
How does changing your playstyle affect your minion's attack, retard ? Are you supposed to not play your minions at all ? You'll get fucked by the magmar minions if you do that.

>playing against magmar? stagger your summons and focus on dispelling his to keep your advantage
What does this have to do with Plasma Storm ? Why did you feel the need to make such an unnecessary post that ultimately doesn't answer shit ? And dispelling is a good strategy against every faction, moron.
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>>122094287
So does this work out according to your advice or is there something I missed when it comes to it? Either way I'm gonna just have to deal with it while I try to make another Legendary after this one.
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>>122099470
if you have no way to get a minion to >3, or to summon a minion with >3, or to stagger your summons to bait out spells to preserve your high-importance but otherwise weak minions, you should never have left bronze
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>>122099470
He just told you.
Change were you summon and move everything.
Are you expecting an area spell from Abyssian or Magmar? Space everyone out, don't clump.
Blast attacks got you down? Space out vertically.
Vanar? Rush to his side of the board and ping him until he has to come back.
Lyonar? Songhai? Get in his face and take up his Nearby spots.
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>>122100146
careful rushing to a vanars side of the board, I've gotten stunlocked and killed that way before
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>>122079512

If it copied itself instead of summoning it would be a lot better.
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>>122099624
You do realize people can run multiple plasma storm and that there's only a restricted list of <3 minions that need to be killed very quickly by Magmar, right ?

>>122100146
>Change were you summon and move everything.
So basically, I can't summon anything with less than 3 attack by turn 4 ?
And how is moving a counter against Plasma Storm ?

Unrelated note, but I wonder. Wind Runner is a 3/3, and it give selected minions +1/+1. If a Magmar were to cast Plasma Storm in a situation where Wind Runner is buffing some minions to 4/4, would thoses minions be spared Plasma Storm ?
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>>122101027
No.
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>>122101027
you do realize you can be running multiples of every unit too, right?
like I said, if find you are literally incapable of counterplay versus any class
stay in bronze
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>>122101027
Are they 4/X on the Magmar turn?
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>>122097371
This is what I am currently running. Keep in mind, it's kind of crap. I'll post a deck list for a better DW deck in a bit. If you have any questions on card choices I'm happy to answer.
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Will a Crystal Wisp's dying wish effect trigger if i use Aspect of the Fox on it?
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>>122101302
No. It loses the ability.
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>>122101302
No. Transformations do not trigger DWs. Ironically, Dark Transformation does trigger them.
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>>122101027
plasma storm exclusively selects minions that are 3 damage at the time of the cast, then kills them all simultaneously

so:
>minions with attack under 3attk at the point of cast and deathwatch +1/+1 will not be spared even if other things die first
>minions being actively buffed over 3attk by any temporary means will not be killed even if the source of that buff is removed during the casting of plasma storm
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>>122101394
Dark Transformation is fucking inconsistent as shit
it's a transformation that triggers dying wishes, but disables rebirth
the fuck
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Is Sarlac still worth crafting?
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>>122101664
Probably because it's not actually a transformation.
It kills the target and puts it back at +1/+1.
I didn't know it disabled Rebirth, however. Is the re-summon canceled if you move a unit onto that space?
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>>122101664
I know, I love it. It's one of the few things Abyssian has that's good

>>122101837
Only for abyssian DW/death trigger. He's too slow for anything else.
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>>122101246
>you do realize you can be running multiples of every unit too, right?
Yeah, what's your grand strategy then ?

Not summoning every minion I can and get rekted by Magmar's bulkies 3-4-drops ?
Summoning only a few >3 minions at a time, hopefully Magmar won't feel the need to boost the hell of own minions to instantly kill them while still summoning others stuff ?
>Go all out to bait him into plasma storm, essentially losing one or two turn to "counter" a 4 mana spell by doing exactly what it want, then waiting until he used it to finally lay down the useful 3-drops that will then be picked apart by the second Plasma Storm ? Or maybe theses are also bait. In that case you're a strategy genius and the Magmar likely already summoned his Elders to pass the time while his others minions dealt with whatever <3 minions you dropped the turn before.

Come on, tell me.
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>>122101837
Abyssian went from tier 1 to tier 1.5-2ish and he's worthless now in any other deck. Personally I wouldn't waste the spirit. I dusted my copies
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>>122101908
wouldn't it be better if it didn't trigger dying wishes, though?
not to mention more consistent?

>>122101871
yeah, cancels rebirth
not sure how you mean to move a unit onto a space in the middle of a spellcast, though
am I misunderstanding your question?
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>2 away from Gold Rank
>derank to 13

o-okay...
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>>122102543
Can't wake up
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>>122102385
Yes that would be better, but they'd need to change the cards text. As it stands it operates appropriately to the text of the card.
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>>122102034
the grand strategy has literally been laid out for you 3 times by now, and you keep focusing in on ever increasingly improbable scenarios in a desperate bid to convince yourself your butthurtedness is justified.
>OH WOW HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO A MAGMAR THAT DRAWS 3 PLASMAS BY TURN 4 AND THEN GETS AN ELDER AND YOU HAVE LITERALLY NOTHING IN YOUR HAND
stay bronze.
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>>122102385
Rebirth and "Dying Wish: Summon [something] on this space" are cancelled by Dark Transformation, because it occupies the space.
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>>122057551
You are retarded.
Vanar is one of the strongest Gauntlet factions, and the first one that got me to max wins.
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Here is my current DW deck list that I someone didn't post.
>>122098232
Oh shit, sorry for taking so long annon. Sarlac is a needed card still for DW. He sucks more now but he's a really strong card for it none the less.
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>>122102034
if you're getting shit on this hard regularly, post your deck here or in the forums and get help because you fucked up BAD somewhere, anon

there are some really good <500 spirit decks you can build, too
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Why is Vetruvian so fun to play /dyg/

Currently Rank 15 after playing for ~2 weeks and this is one of the most fun experiences I've had playing a f2p competitive game

Even when I get outplayed it's always really close
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>>122102763
>bottom tier ranked faction
>suddenly top tier draft
?
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>>122102918
this game is just like Dota
everyone circlejerks around and agrees something is shit until they see someone wreck face with it out of nowhere in a competition and then that's all anybody plays
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>>122102634
>the grand strategy has literally been laid out for you 3 times by now,
Where ?

> and you keep focusing in on ever increasingly improbable scenarios
Which are ?

I've noticed you don't answer questions very much.
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>>122103154
>where?
>literally every response prior
>which are?
>literally in that same post

and I've noticed you have sub-junior-high-levels of reading comprehension
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Here is a higher end DW deck. I'm not too sure on it's quality though as I can't play test it.
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>>122103531
Here it actually is.
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>>122102891
>3 repulsor beast

EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME I SWEAR TO GOD THAT MINION IS THE BIGGEST BULLSHIT SINCE SARLAC EVERYONE HAS THEM IN THEIR HAND AT THE EXACT FUCKING TIME THEY NEED ONE
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>>122103273
So for you, a Magmar having Plama Storm by turn 4, in a game when you can get 3 new card per turn and where you can fill your deck with 3 similar cards is an impossible scenario, got it.

>literally every response prior
Could you quote them ? I ain't seeing it. All I've read is a bunch of dude talking about positioning and others saying you shouldn't summon anything of value aginst Magmar unless it's a 4/x. Pretty weird.
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>>122103756
3x le beast of annoying big plays
3x dispel doge
We have the core of the most annoying deck possible.
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>>122102891
Is it even worth stacking so many of dispel and displace dogs?
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>>122102918
Constructed != Gauntlet
In constructed you can build your own deck and make OP as fuck combos
In gauntlet you hope for best value and Vanar has lots of value
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>>122104123
Displace dogs are a must-have for a deck that abuses blast like that

Dispel dogs are less mandatory but they can get you out of a tight situation

Requesting: "What are you gonna do, dispel me?"
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Post all your decks!

Main to least played
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>>122102891
The Venom Toth, Dancing Blades and Wind Shrikes seem a bit arbitrary but are solid enough to play

I question your choice of 3 Dunecasters though, you only have 3 obelysks and no other dervishes
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Im ready for more memes tbhfam
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>>122102918
Gauntlet is all about tempo plays and forcing your oponent to trade 2 for 1, and guess who hast the most individually efficient cards at that.
>Fenrir
>Boundless Courage
>Flash Freeze
>HAILSTONE FUCKING PRISON
And also an honorable mention to Polarity, that thing has been giving me lethal with brightmoss golem almost a third of my Gauntlet Games.

Don't tell me you build Vanar in gauntlet with bonechill barriers and Glacial elementals lol.
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>>122104609
How does gauntlet work anyway, does it only show you your 3 best factions?
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>>122104969
No, it's 3 random factions.
I usually play Vanar because that's what got me to 0 in the first place and I'm the most familiar with.
Drafting in gauntlet is more about the individual potential or the cards rather than looking for the ladder-ish power sinergies.
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>>122104969
Gives you 3 random factions, you pick one of them. Then you draft cards for a deck - you get 30 sets of three random cards, picking one of them in each set and it gets added to your deck. Then you play games with other people who've made gauntlet decks, being matched with people with approximately your gauntlet score. When you reach 3 defeats or 12 victories, the run ends.

Synergy is hard to achieve in a gauntlet deck and you're usually looking for cards with maximum game impact regardless of the condition the battlefield is in.

>>122105107
Personally I find the Lyonar the strongest gauntlet faction, arclyte sentinels are an absolute murder
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I started playing yesterday and got 2 legos already: Eclipse and Aymara Healer, are they any good?
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>>122104969
You can also have more than 3 of a card in Gauntlet.
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>>122105310
Aymara is good
Eclipse is furry shit that I once tried to make work with a magmar deck and was stupid.
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>>122105310
Amyara healer is core for advance Vetruvian deck

Eclipse is meh unless you're doing a dedicated arcanist deck
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>>122105394
>dedicated arcanyst deck
Sure, if you wanna give your furry shit more hp that's fine, it's not like dispels run rampant on this game.
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>>122105383
>>122105394
nice, I really like to play vertuvian.
are legos that easy to find in packs? or did i just get lucky?
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>>122105910
You get legos every now and then. They're not that rare.
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What the fuck is up with everyone doing control decks now?
Literally everyone i've fought has some board clear cards. Is this the death of deathwatch abysshitters?
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>>122105910
They're not really that rare, but since you can and SHOULD have 3 copies of them in your deck it kinda balances that fact.
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>>122106002
Removal and dispel are cheap and plentiful in this game, especially for certain factions. Have the devs talked about how they add new card sets to the game yet?
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>>122106160
Four new cards (one of each rarity) every month, with some sort of common theme among them (November was "does something when it moves" for example).

Also large unit expansion
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>>122106263
Also worth mentioning that the monthly minions are not faction aligned while expansion units can be faction aligned obviously
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Is Vanar the meme class of this game?
Everyone I talked about say it's bad without explaning why.
Also can anyone give me a meta tier list?
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>>122106438
Magmar control is tier 1
Expensive vetruvian 3rd wish/stars fury is the other top deck
Power gap
The rest of the factions
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>>122106438
At the top, Vetruvian used to be clear #1, but with the sarlac nerf they might be more in line with the other 2 power players: healyonar & burn songhai. Magmar isn't here because burn songhais keep them down.

Although most players will never have to worry about this because it's only apparent past diamond due to the heavy card requirements and game experience. For gold to diamond, Magmar/Healyonar are the most common due to how much control they have and how most players lack the experience nor the cards to deal with it. Songhai would be more rampant here if it weren't for all the healyonars keeping them down.

From silver to gold, there really is no meta. Everyone has shit cards and shit decks with little experience.
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i like vanar
help
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>>122109117
Wanar best faction
Shitting minions all over the board while removing everything the enemy plays never gets old
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>>122109287
I believe you're talking about magmar
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>>122109287
Magmar shits out big guys, Vanar shits out many small guys
Or at least my deck does
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>>122109559
>>122109430
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>tfw want to make a vanar deck
>tfw not sure how
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>>122106438
the reason everyone calls it shit is that it used to be broken as fuck then got nerfed early on

suddenly it required people to rebuild their decks, but instead everyone abandoned vanar for other classes

for the purposes of ladderclimbing it is literally no weaker than any other faction, and frankly a good bit cheaper than most to build.
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>>122110434
POAST
LIST
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>>122110173
Here's my current one
I got deer early and basically built the deck around it
Lots of small stuff that floods the board to trigger deers and glacials, plus blocking enemy movement is pretty important as Vanar
Eventually I just play Razorback or artifact or something and go full fce
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opening my 8 packs after gauntlet day

look at all those legos
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>>122111643
man remember that guy who denied lego drop rate changes depending on how many orbs you open?

yet somehow, by pure coincidence I'm sure, all new accounts are guaranteed a lego drop within the first few orbs

weird
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>>122112045

I just picked up 5 legendaries from 4 orbs. (And all of them were shit) Sometimes people are just lucky/unlucky.
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>>122111643
also for a little context i pretty much only play vetruvian

>2 sand traps
>1 windstorm obelysk

i'm considering using my last 260 on more packs

i thought 8 would be enough to hold me over until next gauntlet but i wasn't expecting to get this much trash. i guess 5 epics isn't the worst, but

fuck, after seeing people pop open packs with 3 legendaries i don't know

what should i do /dyg/
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>>122112589
Hold onto the gold bruh.
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>>122112589
Spend the moneys.
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>>122112589
Blow it all
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I pulled a storm kage, is it worth keeping or do I trash it?
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>>122112390
>guaranteed in early drops
>true random chance later on

this is literally all that's happening
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>>122114076
Trash it.
By turn 7, the match should've already been decided or at least leaning towards you, and besides a dispell or a removal could easily counter it, and if you're going for stats a storm metal golem is much more cost efficient.
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>>122114076
he seems like a fuckload of fun but I have literally never seen him in play
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>>122114645
>>122114590
Into the trash to fuel my Magmaar he goes, then. Finally splurged on a lot of cards I want for them.
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For fractal replication when it says summon 2 copies, are they identical (IE: if the creature has buffs does it get the buffs) or just the same creature without buffs?
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>>122114883
yes, and if it's dispelled, they will also be dispelled
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>>122115192
gotcha. Now I just need to figure out how to use them the best way, then.
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>>122112589
Treat yoself.
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>>122114883
perfect copies of the creature already out on the field
>buffs are carried over
>health is carried over exactly as is
>all abilities are carried over BUT
>Opening Gambits DO NOT proc
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>>122111643
what does lego mean
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>>122116817
legendary
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>>122116817
legendary
he's pointing out that he opened 8 orbs and didn't get a single 900 drop
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>>122112589
If you have my luck (and from your screenshot I think you do) if you spend it on orbs you're only gonna be dissapointed and regret spending it later.
I also have terrible luck at getting rare cards in gauntlet, but I rather waste 25 gold for a chance of getting something else.
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Sorry ask for spoonfeeding, but what are the core cards for a Magmar control?
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>Cheeky abyssian has a ton of little shadow shits summoned and that one +1/1 death watch minion
>Plasma storm the minions just so she can see her shitty death watch get absurd buffs
>Mana burn the fucker and kill him outright
>They just concede
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>>122117873
3x Silithar Elder
3x Veteran SIlithar
3x Young Silithar
3x Plasma Storm
then metamorphosis, mana burn, flash reincarnation, makantar warbeast, earth sphere..


>>122118541
>backed into a corner
>lyonar thinks hes gonna win
>ironcliffe guardian with divine bond
>metamorphosis his units and wipe his board
>he angry emotes and concedes
outskilled :^)
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>>122117873
>>122118856
That sounds about right. Then there's the neutrals that almost every deck uses. Emerald Rejuv and Healing Mystic.
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>>122118856
>>122118856

What are the must haves for a more aggro Magmaar deck?
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>>122118936
Yeah if you load up on all the healing neutrals you can run things like elucidator too. That's how my deck looks mainly because I don't have the dust for the alcuin guy and the archon spellbinder
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>>122118856
>Metamorphosis
>Plasma Storm

Why do Magmar get spells more powerfuls than all the other factions by leagues ?
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>>122119108
Because those are our only board wiping potentials.
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>>122118856
>>122118541

>Magmar is balanced
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>>122119150
Yeah you poor souls got only two board clears
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>>122119015
It's mostly the same stuff. Swap out slower stuff for things like Elucidator and Diretire Frenzy
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>>122119281
Jealous abyssshit detected
They'd literally need to change the entire faction though. The problem is the assortment of good cards, not one card in particular being ridiculously op.
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>>122119281
Butthurt abyssian/vetruvian detected.
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>>122119458
This, maybe some kujata and possibly twin fang or adamantite claws if you can't afford twin fang.
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>>122119150
Yeah, I guess the second bulkiest minions, the free spells that dispel/kill any minion regardless of positioning, the spell that summon 4 eggs anywhere in the map, and the combo that does 33 damages in one turn just aren't enough for you to git gud
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>>122119682
Chrysalis burst is shit though
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>>122119458
Hrm, alright. I've been trying to fuck aorund with an aggro magmaar deck, and it just feels like I have so much stuff I don't know what's good and what isn't.
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>>122119651
>>122119015

I don't play Magmar much so I missed those. Good call. Make sure you're running Amplification as well.
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>>122119528
>We're just too good they won't change us

Well ain't that a cunty post.
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>>122119796
make a list and we'll offer some changes
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>These patch notes
Goddammit, I genuinely thought there were actual changes
>>122115234
Flash Reincarnate an Elucidator and Fractal that mother. If you have it, dump a Greater Fortitude or an Amplification on it before using Fractal
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>>122120048
It was an observation. They can't just change one card and make them balanced, they'd need to change a bunch of cards
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>>122120051
Deck currently is pic related.

>>122120187
How many flashes should I run? I would need to craft some.
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>>122120378
I run 2 flashes, but 3 is optimal as well. Don't bother with Saberspine when you have Elucidators
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>>122120378
Unless you're going combo I think fractal should be limited to a singleton
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>>122120378
Anything I should replace the sabers with? Flash?

>>122120787
Hrm, alright.

What about the fists? I never seem to get a good chance to drop them, I could replace them as well.
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>>122120187
what patch notes
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>>122120872
Mystic is generally better than primus, especially with kujata and flash. The important thing is the 2/3 statline
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>>122120378
>Fagmar asking for deck advice

You have the most OP faction in the game. If you can't figure out yourself, you're not simply bad at the game, you're simply retarded.
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>match loading
>it never starts
>click on bug report
>bug report window loading
>the "loading" dissapears and I'm left with an empty white square in the middle of my screen
>can't close it, when I click on bug report again it just loads the same thing over
>suddenly match starts
>can't see or use half of the board because of the dumb white square

You know for sure that something is wrong when the bug report window it's bugged.
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>>122125961
>being this mad
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Any suggestions for my Songhai squad? Could definitely replace the Songweaver with something else.

Need some fresh ideas. Throw them at me.
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>>122127470
>0 Mist Dragon Seal
Dude what the fuck
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>>122127470
...the fuck are you playing? No mist dragon? only 1 saberspine?
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>>122127470
>Furry deck

Songay pls go
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>>122127626
>>122127807
Mist Dragon serves little purpose in this kind of deck. I spend most of the match in the opponent's face anyway so the teleport is useless.
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>>122127470
>Dragonlark

Why
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>>122128193
That's the stupidest thing I've ever fucking heard anon
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>>122128193
Rethink your life choices and also play a different faction my man
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>>122128208
1-drop flyer that usually deals at least 2 damage to the enemy general or gets rid of a pesky unit from anywhere on the board. Combos with juxtaposition to act as a makeshift Repulsor Beast. What would I replace it with for a 1-drop?
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>>122128451
>>122128647
Point out which minions in my deck would benefit from the teleport? Unless you're suggesting I'm playing Songhai wrong by getting in the opponent's face for most of the fight? Because THAT would be a silver league thing to say.
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>>122128996
>Provoker drops
>Any Vanar walls drop
>Any minion with more than 5 health drops
Enjoy never being able to sneak in a victory by teleporting a dude behind your opponent. I'll be busting my ass trying not to get my shit rocked by the actual good Songhais in Diamond
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>>122127470
>eclipse
hahaha
HAHAHAHAHAH
faggot
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>>122128676
A fcking hearthseeker? The best 1 drop in the game, and the only useful ranged unit? You can even buff it with killing edge so she can be a bigger threat than your shitty flying guy
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>>122127825
Alright /dyg/, what is THE definitive furry decklist, and what faction would it be?

The obvious card to include would be Eclipse x3, but what else?
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>>122125961
Stay mad vetruvian
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>>122128996
>Unless you're suggesting
He's straight up saying than your deck is bad, and he's right.
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>>122129549
>implying my squad doesn't have answers to all of those things despite not including your favorite crutch card

>>122129734
>6 mana + Inner Focus
>deal x damage to the enemy general, where x = highest enemy attack value on the board
>literally causes complete upsets as soon as turn 5
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So what does /dyg/ think of pic related?
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>>122127470
Are you bronze anon? Christ your deck is garbage.
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>>122129908
Magmar is bara as fuck, how is this even a question?
>>122130296
This is real? Damn, /v/ must be having a field day
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>>122130508
Half of /v/ is the same topic with the same image right now.
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>>122130421
>>122130079
I'm in gold sitting on a 7 win streak today. It's been a good day though.

So many people here willing to shit on a squad they've never seen in action.
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Reminder that liking bara lizard men isn't gay and you're probably a faggot if you don't like them
>not wanting a silithar elder to lay his eggs in your boypussy
Homo
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>>122129908
Magmaar or Songhai for sure
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>>122127470
How do you make these decklists?
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>>122132039
http://duelystdb.com/
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>>122129908
How about this?
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>>122130778
I find it hard to believe that you won 7 matches in a row on gold with that deck. If it is true this only proves that Shongay is so overpowered that you don't even need to think what shit you're putting together in your deck.
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>>122132701
>stall
>stall
>stall
>one turn ko

it's not hard
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>>122129908
WHERE WE AT /barasandtraps/?!
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>>122133790
You're missing some cards senpai
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>>122133981
I know I need a last elder.

What else do I need?
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>>122132625
Here's waifu edition.

Or, if you prefer, massive futa penises edition.

Vanar, Lyonar, and Songhai have some girls too, Vet only has AraAra Healer, and the entire faction of Magmar seems to be bara lizard men. That lay eggs.
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>>122134432
Making these work is better.
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>>122134432
>That lay eggs.
What is cboys and maleherms? Plus mpreg
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>>122132882
I'm the guy that posted the deck that everyone's hating on and most of my Songhai victories involve doing smart trades while whittling down my opponent's health, then getting a final blow with either Spiral Power, Mask of Shadows, or Eclipse/Lantern Fox with Inner Focus. I'd say its a stall deck when it needs to be, but a more accurate description would be hit-&-run.
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>>122132625
>tfw you will never get to surround the enemy general with bara dino men and spam the Magmar flirt emote

>>122134673
No, some of them like the Silithar Elder's haveovipositors[/spoiler] and use the weaker/bulkier males to carry the egg through labor.
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>>122135230
>full of elders and eggs
>Spam flirt
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>>122134673
I know, I was only pointing it out.
Y'know, pointing out that everyone who lives in Magmar country is a giant muscled lizardman that lays eggs.

>>122134505
What?
Making waifu edition work is better than husbando edition?
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>>122135230
>>122135360
Hard and sweat
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>>122135505
Making them work and then fight to see if husbandofags or waifufags deserve to live is better
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>>122135505
>is a giant muscled lizardman that lays eggs
and that is literally perfect
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>>122135230
>tfw did exactly this today
Had 4 silithar elders (two eggs hatched)
Surrounding a lyonar general who had just accepted defeat. Spam wink and flirt and he conceded
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I stopped playing for a few weeks, what changed? Is this vetruvian deck I took from these threads still good?
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>>122136253
Sarlac got nerfed and is worthless
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>Just noticed that we have the young, veteran, and elite Silithar in the game
>It goes from walking on 4 legs to 2 in its life time
>And grows a fucking lightning blade some how
Magmar confirmed for best flavor, and best dick.

>>122136253
Abyssian got pushed further into the shit bin with a nerf on Sarlac, making his casting cost 3 instead of 2. Also it turns how this thread is full of the gay.

>>122136530
He's still played in abyssian. He should have just became an abyssian lego instead of changing his cost.
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>>122136725
>And grows a fucking lightning blade some how
buys I think
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Bump for bara lizard men
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>>122136725
>Abyssian got pushed further into the shit bin
>implying creep deck isn't some of the biggest bullshit in the game

This fucker got two Shadow Novas in a row, I can't keep anithing on the field like this. And by the way I did have one Lightbender on my deck I happened to not draw him so I had no fucking chance.
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Lets get some lore crafting going because the Devs don't have any right now.
Do the demons summoned by the Abyssian have genitals or are they just sexless meat bags beating shit up?

>>122139696
Shadow creep falls out of play anywhere above gold because it's too slow to win and has no board wipe to stabilize with. Yes, I agree it is a very strong deck keeping in mind how cheap it is to make, but it's just a meme deck right now.
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Is Lady Locke good anywhere?
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>>122139914
Damn is the meta really so much different above gold?

Abyssians are that recently awakened "ancient evil" faction that is trying to take over the world and everyone hates. The rest of the factions are just chilling in their own realms fighting with their armies in the occasional war. Nobody fucks with Magmars.
There's your lore.
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>>122119321
Magmar has absolutely NO way to deal with artifacts.
Like none at all.
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>>122141092

>mana_burn.jpg
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>>122141092
There is a neutral card for that. There isn't a neutral card that is a board wipe.
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>>122141289
>wasting mana burn on the fucking general
can't get past bronze huh?
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>>122141289
>mana burn on general
Why don't you just tell me to attack the enemy general so I can destroy the artifact?
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Why would they nerf Abyssian if there is still OP Magmar.
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>>122144579
LMAO get wrecked abyss shitter
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>>122144806
I'm Vetruvian desu
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>>122144853
Sarlac nerf hit vetruvian just as hard, if not harder than abyssian. What are you, a fucking casual obelisk user? Do you even play vetruvian?
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>like magmar's playstyle the best
>hate playing the faction which is considered op and that everyone hates

suffering desu
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>>122133790
Question: Is there something else I can take other than have Emerald Rejuvinator / Healing Mystic? Something a bit more rush-y?
I feel like this game's pace can be slow enough at times without including stuff like healing units.
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>>122146960
Go aggro and drop the emeralds and harvesters.
I'd still keep the mystics
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What is the best facerush class? I just want to go balls to the wall aggro, no thinking, no strategy, just dump my hand and attack and burn.
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>>122146048
I played all the factions and liked Lyonar the best

I feel like a fucking casual
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>>122147167
>Soul Harvesters
Jesus titty christ that is a good card
>Playing VS. Abbyssian
>Drop one in the middle of her squad thinking it'll just kill everything nearby
>ALL other minions
>End turn
>The entire fucking field explodes
>MFW
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>>122147742
"Lets give a faction 2 board wipes, and an almost board wipe. That will go well."
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>>122148015
>weenie decks
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>playing Songhai
>get opponent down to 8 or less HP with a clear board
>watch them struggle to decide how to rebuild their board
>that panicked scramble as the timer ticks down
>they pass the turn to me at the last second

>click Spiral Power
>click enemy general
>VICTORY
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>>122152579
This is going to be a very common feel for you.
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Just got her, trash or not?
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>>122154021
The only advantage it has: no one expects the Tombstone move
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>>122154021
cool with divine bond i guess
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>>122154021
its a kickstarter backer card, they are all total trash
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>>122154021
It's decent until you get actual good cards
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Why are walls allowed to attack?
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>>122114719
sadly storm kage's ideal setup will almost never happen.
2 mana foragers
at least 1 bloodrage mask or 4 wind
1 spell that does any damage
a bunch of enemy minions

I've only won once due to him, against a healyonar by having it survive next turn with a bloodrage mask and having dealt lots of damage to him before hand.
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>>122161579
Why wouldn't they be?
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>tfw i'll never be able to reach gold
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>>122161829
Structures can't attack, but walls can.
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>tfw BM
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>>122163748
I'm glad this meme is catching on.
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>>122163748
>Not just casting Martyr and Tempest when the first one comes out
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>>122163748
Four of these are not like the others
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>>122164760
Technically, 2 of them are just younger versions of the rest.
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>>122066590
based
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>>122164203
i was the magmar, a friend took this screenshot
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>>122165220
>>122165536
??
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>>122165536
>Rush
>Backstab(3)
>3 Attack so you can use Inner Focus
>Enjoy easy OTK
Rush and Backstab is something illegal lol
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>>122165536
Is this a new card? Seems underwhelming compare to flying backstabber (+4).
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>>122165779
tell that to songhai that wrekt me
>mist walking backstabbing me for 8 damage
>summon lanter wolf next turn and end the game right there and then
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>>122165828
SAUCE PLS
hnnngh new faction cards would make me hard
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>Played for an hour
>finished 2 quests real quick(25x2)
>First win of the day (25)
>4 matches win a row (15x4)
easily an orb a day and the game doesn't make me giant pile of shit without legendary. So many removals without depending on those nigger legendary. Hell i am even running 4/6 golem and 4/9 because i don't have strong card late game but they can't dispel golem to 1/1.
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>>122166078
It's an old card. oh i didn't realize it;s 2 illusions cards. Could have worked if you can get more than 3 inner focus. They are so important.
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>>122166294
Golems are strong for that, they have huge stats and they can't be dispelled.
They are slow as fuck tho
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>>122166680
>slow
pretty much. The lack of rush in my deck make me depended on removal cards a lot.
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I wish there was unranked or faction-specific ranks so I could meme like the gods with worse decks. I'm floating around rank 5-7 and it's hell whenever I try something new.
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>>122154929
>no one expects the Tombstone move
I learnt that the hard way.
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>>122154021
pretty okay in my abyssian deck or magmar. You can buff the stone and be useful. and 4 mana cards that attack for 5? It's great.
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>>122166948
>Just started playing a couple days ago
>Decided "fuck it" and went full Lyonar
>Now rank 7, but I can't even try the other factions without getting my face caved in

They really need to add other playmodes or different ranks for different factions.
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>>122166948
>climbing ranks this early
dumbass. I am still at rank 15 playing around with vanar.
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>>122167210
Silver bros where we at
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>>122167210
I fucked myself. I was memeing with dumb shit at rank 20 but decided to go full retard with my Magmar deck because I got 1 silithar elder and 1 makator beast from the same pack on gauntlet day. Now I can't even go back to my Abyssian main deck since they nerfed Sarlac and all we got is burn roll of the dice.
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>>122167407
There's no point to climbing anyway since there's no profiles and there's no audience to stream and get mad dosh from

im a buff bara white guy, do you think I could stream this shirtless and get cash once it's released?
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>opponent keep spamming emotes
>take my time to calculate the damage
>mana cost and possible next move both by mine and opponent
>carefully my pawns and deal damage
>end turn when i am satisfied
I have my full right to take all the time in the world to fuck you in the ass.
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>>122167602
>im a buff bara white guy, do you think I could stream this shirtless and get cash once it's released?
I thought twitch regulated that.
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>>122167745
Tank top then
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>>122167602
Doubt it. This game lack a lot of exposure. It doesn't have years of building fans. There's nothing unique in this game, i think

But there's no harm in trying, If you have the charm and luck, you might get tons of e-money.
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>>122167713
Yeah in this game you have to think a lot, don't know why they created the "Zzzz" emote, I never used it once because I know they need time before playing cards or moving units.
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>mechazor songhai
>mechazor abyssian
>mechazor magmar
Is mechazor suddenly become popular or something?
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>>122168628
apparently, I just faced off against 3 people going mechazor as well
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>>122168109
Psychological warfare anon. You can't psyche your opponent directly like in real life, but you can spam emotes and frustrate them, leading to worse plays. I never do it myself unless I'm already mad from being on a losing spree, but I do compliment good plays
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>>122167602
>im a buff bara white guy

Prove it.
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>>122168109
>Turn 1
>bitch takes forever to move to the right and send the gloomchasers
So hard.
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>>122168109
>>122167713
click on the enemy portrait to mute them.
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>enemy vetruvian gets five mechazor units in three turns

i guess even shitty cheese decks can get wins if the rng blesses them
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>>122167713
>>122168109
I mean that's true and taking time to strategize is totally reasonable and all but when the enemy player draws EVERY turn out to the very last second something is very wrong
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>>122168109
Every fucking Abyssian I play against take an embarrassing amount of time to play their fucking turn.

If you usually take more than ten seconds to think of a strategy you're a slow retard.
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>>122143472
>>122143708
>WE HAVE NO WAY TO DEAL WITH ARTIFACTS
>Get proven wrong
>B-BUT THAT DOESN'T COUNT

:')
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>>122146048
>tfw playing Vet
>got all my cards through crafting and orbs paid by my victories

Feel good being the only non-shitter.
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What's a good Vanar deck?
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>>122183929
An oxymoron
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