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Previous Thread: >>121887484

we only have 30% of the game unlocked edition

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd (embed)
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.

>Class Poll
- http://strawpoll.me/5756393

Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5 (embed)

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (open until 6th): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)

>Leveling Guide for Idiots
Check your maps for recommended levels and grind there faggot

>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
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Second for kill me I don't know what to play
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What's the point of upgrading the swordsman's plate mastery? Does anything increase?
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Man when are they gonna fix the fucking IPF error
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Can anyone help me get pink hair? ;_;
Bokor is awful at killing things fast.
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SIXTH for I actually enjoy grinding
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>>121908082
It increases your meager HP/stamina bonus.
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>>121908053
>tfw only playing shitty linear gook grind questing game for nice asses
Why do other games not enjoy ass
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Am I doing this right?
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Someone sell me a Maulos Club!
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>>121907956
>only 30% of the game ulocked

Isn't it more like 80% since the only thing they can add is more grinding or another boss fight to the 1000 ingame already? The other 15% is items and cute clothes and the other 5% is classes.
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>>121908082
each lvl gives

>Cloth Mastery, 3-piece bonus: +10 SP per Level
>Cloth Mastery, 4-piece bonus: +0.5 Magic Defense per Level

>Leather Mastery, 3-piece bonus: +1 Evasion per Level
>Leather Mastery, 4-piece bonus: +0.5 Evasion per level

>Plate Mastery, 3-piece bonus: +34 HP per Level
>Plate Mastery, 4-piece bonus: +0.2 Stamina per Level
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>>121908196
yes
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>>121908225
they said that there will be raids in the game. which is one of the reasons why centurion was taken out for now.

i think we haven't seen anything yet and 200 levels is just a start.
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>>121908231
Per attribute level?
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Teach me how to use keyboard letter emoticons, and I will tell you how to recreate.
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>>121908196
>>121908263
I was full int until I got to prison, had to get 50 con
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JUST
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>>121908196
server?
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>>121908231
>Plate Mastery, 4-piece bonus: +0.2 Stamina per Level

That's not true. I get 1 stamina every 2 attribute level.
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>>121908284
I wish max level was 99. This whole 400 level thing is just retarded and clutters the world map with linear areas.
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why is he such a jew
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Mercenary missions anyone? Zemyna
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>>121908284
>i think we haven't seen anything yet and 200 levels is just a start.

I only see bad placement channels, grind and holes of xp.... oh! and barbarians.
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>>121908372
oh k
updating
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>>121908217
Holy shit as soon as I find someone selling one shout goes down. Stormcaller where you at?
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>>121908450
what are those?
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>>121908386
Is it 600 or 400? I heard 600 long before 400 suddenly started appearing.

A cap around 200 and 10 ranks would give you at least 20ish level per Rank. Not this shit where you'll go 100+ levels for shit like rank 6+.
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>Sorcerer summon's single target damage is actually pretty mediocre unless you're burning mana to ride regularly
>Only situation in which its good while griding is if there is huge mob density so you can pull everything and have it tank / aoe them down

I-I just wanted to use it all the time
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Rip Market and Shout.

Time of Death Tuesday November 10, 11:02 am
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>>121908369
saule, why?
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>shout, market dead already again
party too?
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>>121908695
w-want swordie companion? I was thinking about making new class on new server to see if it's not as laggy and to take a break from my current class. I see you're still low lvl.
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>everythings dead again

BRAVO
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Guys, how about we write a big letter from /tosg/, with feedback, suggestions, and bug reports? Saying that a lot of players in top percentage worked together on that letter will make it look great, won't it?
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>>121908676
>ride temple shooter
>face huge mob, mouse over them
>use his second ability
>he turns to the side and fires the barrage missing every single of the 30+ mobs

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
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>>121908712
was party ever not dead?
>tfw want to dungeon but don't want to throw away party and can't be assed waiting to find a cleric
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Does anyone know if Cockatrice Leather actually drops from Cockatrices? It says so on the description, but neither database has it listed as a Cockatrice drop, and I've been here killing Cockatrices and the big purple Cockatrices for hours and nothing.

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/645454/
http://tosdatabase.net/us/item/645454/
Is it really that rare?

Alternatively I can buy one off y'all in Gabija.
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>>121906980
what new attribute are we talking about? I assume pierce right?
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>>121908683
a fucking gain at the same exact time? wtf is IMC even doing
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>>121908896
it's bugged and doesn't drop from anything
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And it's back
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>>121908879
party,shout,market worked from server start until like now
nice "fix" for about 7 hours
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>>121908814
I guess, don't really know what I'm doing
does the friendslist work on saule?
team name is Sorcerer

also, cryo or pyro
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>>121908683
>wake up early to put shit on market and sell before it dies
>server's on maintenance
>certain it's going to die before I get home
T-thanks IMC
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>>121908094
Nevermind I did it, ignore me.
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>inb4 they fixed the Chat and Market server by having a schedule reset every 11:00AM EST
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At what point do I outlevel the 90 dungeon and start getting levels elsewhere?
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>>121908946
and some of the items i had in market are gone. at least nothing good gone.. this time

time to take out most items until they "fix" this shit
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>>121908972
o-ok! I'll make character and try to catch up with you!

And well, depends what you like more. Cryo feels feels more like crowd control because of freezing everything around, also ice wall makes great combo with pressure on psychokino, but overal damage is kinda meh.
Pyro looks like class that doesn't have problem with offensive stuff.
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>>121909113
110
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Can anyone help me transfer some vubbe fighter gloves and a strength pendant over to my main character without fucking me over?
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Any rangers around? What did you stat? SPR? DEX?

Any help appreciated.
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>>121871457

Quarrel Faggot Blog # 5

Level 52, C2 Quarrel Shooter, Lvl 50 Dungeon

-Had trouble going through chapel in the deserted channels
-Rapid fire shoots at the way your character is facing instead of where your cursor is at.
-Necroverter attack hit box still fucked up.
-Having trouble with Chapel 1f and 2f because of the sheer number of mobs.
-Caltrops have taunt, Throw it in the middle of the room of aggressive mobs and watch them go crazy.
-Flying and non flying mobs affected by caltrop lure
-Planning to skip level 50 dungeon and continue with the quest line or just get a party. Depends on how I wake up

good morning /tosg/, i'm off to bed
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>>121908304
Get emoticons from scrolls.
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Anyone on Gabija thats around 130 interested in doing the Gele plateau merc mission?

Soloing it is a pain in the ass
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How do I save my Sword C2 > Highlander C2?
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>>121909283
>Gabija
people still play on that lag server?
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>>121909321
Delete it
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>find 2nd sword
>still can't get it over +10
I want to die. Shit is costing me a fortune.
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>>121909349
But she's too cute.
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Why everyone on the foruns want this game to be boregnarok
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>>121909250
spr if you want to use oblique shot as your aa
Spr and str was alright in the early levels
I'm 2:1 dex str right now tho.
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>>121908934

W E L P
E
L
P

Thanks though.
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>>121909234
Just set a buyshop in some obscure place then buy your shit with your other char senpai
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So I can I just use all my exp cards that are under lvl7 or am I getting rused?
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>>121909435
Squire next then
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>>121908970
shout still up on gaba
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>>121909794
up again. they all was dead for like 10 min
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>>121909641

I think you can only buyshop recipes and mats
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update on my quarrel shooter issues
24/3/360/9 stats, best allotment so far
5 multi, 5 full draw, 5 oblique
5 pavise, 7 caltrops and rapid fire, 3 teardown
best build I've come up with so far actaully doing decent single target damage though very meh AOE, havn't touched stone pickup or scatter shot yet though I can see their ridic. high scaling being worthwhile later on. They definitely are not worth it early on
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>>121909963
I could always sell the gloves and then just buy a recipe and the materials. I'd probably lose some in the process though.
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>>121909882
Looks properly dead now.

I like how everything related to being social completely dies along with the AH.
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>pyromancer
>summons a fireball

>it just sits there

k
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>>121909234
If you're laima, Ill help you out
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>>121909259
server?
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>Neverending Story achievement
>Play for 7 days
Without logging out?
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>>121910098
you can push it with off-hand attack button.
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Someone post that link with the enhancement chance of success.
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>>121910197
Shit's broken. I've tried to get it
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>>121909520
Full STR in the beginning until 120-ish and then do 2:1 STR to DEX.
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Where do I get vubbe fighter blood and are these gloves as good as I think they are for a wizard?
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>>121910197
mfw it's impossible due to weekly maintenance
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>>121910036
oh i have a +2 quarreler shooter skill xbow equipped
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>>121908835
Works on Gaibja :^)
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>>121910440
>>121909882
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What's the optimum party level to be able to gain good amount of exp? +/- 10?
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>>121908304
Hidden quests i think.
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Why the HECK is this guy's name green

After I left the map and came back it wasn't like this anymore
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Market dead again?
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>>121910563
that's a girl re*tard
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>>121910563
That means they are offline. When you setup shop and go offline your character stays.
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What should i choose now?

My endgame objective would be SR.

Ranger C3 seems have great aoe with Bounce Shot and good single target with Spiral Shot.

Wugushi i heard got the best single target damage for an archer class because of the poison DoT but seems lack of aoe.

Any suggestion?
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>>121908284
What's the point of raids if every single boss in this game does the exact same thing?
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After 190 hours of play, I've managed to reach 170. More than half of that time was spent climbing my way out of the 16x EXP Wall. Manualy.

Not that my Martyrdom is over, but at least now I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Also, check out my new weapon.
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>>121907956
How am I supposed to use flare?

It never works even if they're standing on my Flame Ground
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>>121910758
Barbarian
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>>121910758
Ranger C3. I think it synergises best with SR.
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>>121910873
Fireball has an attribute that allows you to burn enemies. In short: you dont use flare.
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>>121910729

Oh, never noticed that made a difference on your name

Thanks
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Anyone know where to find the necklace for "Grudge of a nameless warrior" in Saknis Plains ?
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Do missions only give you hats?
I like it
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>>121909036
at least they are doing something
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>>121910914
Sapper is extremely viable as well. That Rotating lazer trap is godsent.
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>>121910860
>increases damage of [skill] by 100%

FUCKING BULLSHIT RENEWAL MECHANICS STAY AWAY FROM ME

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>121910873
It's shit, just use lv 1 to provoke enemies

>>121910978
That attribute adds 8s delay, disable it
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>>121910978
Damn I really liked the animation and concept for it, reminded me of this guy
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>>121910758
You don't go Ranger unless it's C1 or C3. Leaving it at C2 is a waste otherwise. Then you could pick up one rank in Wugushi to see what it's like or another rank in Archer for Swift Step critical buff and more Multi Shot levels.
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>>121909423
zeny pls
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>>121911090
Im not even a mage. I started as a pyro and got it to c2 but got dissapointed and rerolled into archer. Genius, i know. I agree that the attribute is bad. That is why i said that you dont use flare, too hard to set up and too situational.
>>121911118
I feel your pain.
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>>121910980
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/bulb-hidden-quest-and-useful-information-might-have-spoil-bulb/65899
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>>121910980
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The game was fun until 160.

I guess I'll do just like Ragnarok and keep rolling different characters to keep the playstyle fresh until I reach a stupid grind wall.
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>>121911194
It should make a lot of damage or explode the monster causing more aoe to be worth using =/
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>>121910860
>damage by 100%

Who designs these items?
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>>121910254
what button is that for keyboard?

Can't find a way to rebind any of the controls under system menu
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The IPF memes are still happening, do IMC even test what they do?
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>>121911216
Thanks anon, this brush was really well hidden, no way to distinct it ...
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>>121911082
C3 hoplite isn't even very popular anyways. That is a very nice spear for them though. Throwing Spear has 1044 skill damage and with +100% from the weapon and +100% max attribute they'll get some nice overkills. Still shit cool downs.
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>>121911446
me
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>>121911457
IMC doesn't fix anything, all of the bugs that were in the first korean beta still exist in the current beta.
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>>121911446
its a shit skill anyways
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>>121910758
Wugushi.

Don't fall for the memes.
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>>121911452
C

>>121911457
How many times do I have to post this?
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Wugushi will be overpowered once they buff Archers

Screencap this
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>>121911457
they just rename the errors and restart the servers
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>>121911082
are you retarded?
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Am I the only one who always get disconnected inside dungeons?
It's annoying as hell. And I feel bad about making my party wait for me to relog. Anything I can do to fix? Is there a way to turn off skill effects or something if that's what triggers it.
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>>121911657
I do it but doesn't help, doesn't work 100% of the times :^)
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By this point, I'm fairly certain they disable chat/market server intentionally
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Was the lodge room glitch fixed? I'm trying to reproduce the bug, but the option to create character dont appear.
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Can someone who STILL hasn't a key after all the beta key distribution check, if this beta key here is correct?
45KRA-ZL9RD-3FZX9
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I'm currently C1 Wiz > C2 Pyro > C1 Linker going for Alchemist.
What should my 5th circle be? I'm thinking of getting C3 Pyro.
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TIP TOP KEK
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What are the grinding spots at Tenet Chapel?

I kinda of rushed through it my first time, and I don't wanna make the same mistakes
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>>121912051
Thanks
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WHAT DID THEY FIX, ARE PARTIES OK NOW
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What drops the Gladiator Band? Database doesn't say.
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>>121912291
they fixed MY DICK
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Anyone? Got it after trying to decline a friend request.
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>>121912348
Happened to me as well. Gook error is an improvement over nothing happening, but it's still not working.
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>>121912291
Yes, dungeons and parties are working.

>>121912348
I got the same error earlier, no idea what it is but it's better than what we had. Now if only they'd fix it
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>>121912051
>was out for lunch
>someone else got it
Dammit, I just wanted to play this buggy beta with my friends
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>wizard
>earthquake is shit and has a long cooldown
>energy bolt is okay

>advance to pyro

>fireball is shit
>flame pillar is shit
>flame ground is god tier but doesn't work on some enemies
>enchant is shit
>flare just doesn't work
fuck
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>>121912348
"friend request acceptance failed"
it's broken ignore it
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>>121912715
Earthquake is fucking great. Even when its damage has dropped off it's still pretty valuable because it launches smaller enemies and they stop acting for a few seconds. Helps that it does extra damage with lethargy for whatever reason
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>>121912715
you're shit
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>>121912715
Fireballs pretty good desu. Just imagine how bad being a Cryo must be, they don't have an Ice Ground.
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>Lv70+ and already feels like a rice camp
>See the exp table
>Those exp walls

And the best part comes in Lv130+, sorry this ride is over for me.
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>>121912715
Quit falling for the spirit meme.
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>>121912715
>fireball is shit
not at level 15, otherway is pretty ok
>flame pillar is shit
You mean fire wall. Shit, but there's nothing better in C1.
>enchant is shit
1 point in, because of the attribute
>flare just doesn't work
it does, buy it's shit. Just on "burnt" enemies. Try using it on an enemy standing on flame ground.
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>>121911457
try to enter another server then go back
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>>121911457
Worked first try for me for the first time ever
People in game said that parties are still broken though, don't know who to believe.
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>>121912715
I don't know what you're on about, pyromancer is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrqNLm-4EDM
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>>121913312
>pyro is amazing!
>posts c3 pyro when the guy is obviously c1
dumbass
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>>121913376
If he's C1 he's fucking bad lmao
play more than 30 minutes
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>>121909234
I can help you in Gabija, but be mindful that they'll lose 2 potential in the trades. Tell me when you want to meet
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market ate my mirtis helmet
and it also ate the fox mask that took me 6 hours to find
nice game
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>>121912897
Don't give up! But remember it's still beta
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>>121913694
Its hard with Wiz C3... maybe a bad decision when I can go with better classes for Elementalist.
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So is plate mastery worth it at all? It's not clear exactly what it does from the description. Leather mastery clearly gives a solid evasion bonus, but it's hard to tell exactly what plate does for you. I'd have to drop my Vubbe Fighter gloves which even at 140 is still best in slot to go plate, but it definitely doesn't seem worth it.
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>>121913802
>>121908231
>>121908372
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>>121913617
>Implying C1 only takes 30 minutes
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>If you had relevant gear drops, people would make close to no money, because they would be valuable and be sold to players, which does not generate money.

Was reading the foruns and saw this.
Explain to me how does this logic works, I really just can't understand it
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>>121913842
Plate gets the 10% reduction in damage right with 4 piece set? Description suggests that's a thing.
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>>121914187
It's a one time thing that doesn't increase with level
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>>121914098
>cash is only generated in the world from mob drops and vendor sales
i think that's what he means
by selling to players you're just shifting it around, not actually creating it
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>>121914187
yep. the other stuff was for each lvl
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>>121914098
it must be a typo or poorly worded sentence

if relevant gear drops people would never buy anything and the market economy would be garbage
that's the only logical statement they must have been trying to convey however incorrectly they structured it
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>Kill 500 Hammamings
>No achievement
ITS
JUST
A
BETA
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>>121914356
>kill 500 on all 4 characters
>get the achievement each time
maybe you just need to git gud
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>>121914098
If, today, a huge gold deposit, corresponding to 50% of the world's reserves, was found in Australia and completely mined out, the value of gold would be significantly lower, which would fuck up people who own gold.
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>>121914356
>trying to get achievements in a beta
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>>121914356
>Kill 500 Hammamings
>Achievement
Shouldn't have pirated ;)
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On Rexipher bossfight, get him to ~85%, cant dmg him with magic anymore - wtf?
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Anyone ever tried an exorcist Priest build? is there any way for a cleric class dps with either Cleric or Priest?

The nostalgia of being a exorcist Priest in RO just hit me and since skills like Cure, Heal and Ressurection actually do damage in this game, I was wondering if the same was possible in ToS, a hybrid DPS Priest.
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>first ever character
>finish the mines quest

>27/rank 6 subclass
is this normal?

used all my cards
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>>121914581
Priests are largely DPS focused in this game as it is though more of a Support DPS booster. Their most important skills are Blessing and Sacrament which are +damage and +holy damage buffs.

Going Paladin afterwards gives you Smite too for more DPS.
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>>121914675
sounds ok
cards dont rly matter under L100
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>>121911118
I created a pyro called Roy_Mustard just to level up flare to 15 and wreak Havoc.
At class level 4 i discovered it was useless, i cant get over it
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>>121914581
You better start enjoying Battle Priests, MEfag
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How are you supposed to do this quest? they spawn so frequently that its impossible to ever throw something on the fire.
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>level 8 in c1 pyro
i already want to reroll
holy fuck

and no i didnt put points in SPR or anything

everythings in int and its suffering

not to mention my best skill cant hit flying enemies
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>>121914581
as far as magic dps:
i believe cleric's cure skill has the highest int scaling in the game, but the base damage is really shit so i'm not sure if it's actually good
i think c3 priest exorcise is pretty good but the mere fact that it's a c3 skill makes it really underwhelming

the most popular priest build is to just get blessing and sacrament and auto-attack stuff because it's disgustingly strong and easy
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>>121913312
>People find something amazing when the boss just stands there and soaks all the damage in the world without doing anything and dies in 10 seconds.

Seriously, I didn't want to compare this to D3, but even D3 has more interesting bosses than this, and D3 is garbage. I'm fucking dissapointed, I love grinding but there's so little challenge except for a few stupidly overcrowded maps and unavoidable damage that I'm starting to hate the game.
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>>121915261
Leave one alive so the rest won't respawn
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>>121915268
>not to mention my best skill cant hit flying enemies
but it can
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>>121915376
I don't think that's how it works.
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>>121915261
Kill them all
There is a limited number of waves in every quest that isn't a 'survive' to prevent people from just grinding them, thus you can just genocide them all and then add the arrows once they're all dead.
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>>121915423
Maybe, that's how I remember it. Some of the quests worked like that
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>>121915268
wowbaby pls
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is there a release date yet
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>>121915662
January 27 2018
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Doing level 90 dungeon with a full group for the first time, can I heal by myself as a Sadhu or should I look for another cleric to assist?
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>>121915719
>my birthday
>i'd be 29 then
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>>121915769
You can heal it by yourself
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>>121915719
I fucking WISH
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>>121915268
imo pyro is very balanced, it's a decent dps class with clear weaknesses and strengths and requires SLIGHTLY more effort than push-button-everything-explodes
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>>121915769
>get 4 barbarians
>afk the whole thing
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>>121915662
Nov. 23
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>>121915769
You are dps. I'm making a Sadhu and I'll be pissed off if people invite me for support.
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30 hours in and I feel like this game is intended to be extremely party orientated

maybe im playing a shitty class
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>>121915662
>release date for the game to be fixed, improved and polished: mid to late 2017
>probable actual release date: early 2016
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>>121916181
that's the intention but they fucked it up and made partying useless
it also literally doesn't work sometimes
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>>121916181
Only bosses feel like they need parties and that dies down later on (or it did for me, as a Pyro)
The annoying thing is getting to like level 100 and the only things you can do to level up (other than spamming the cards) are party oriented. Especially now that parties don't fucking work.
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>>121913756
>better classes than wiz3 for elementalist
Have fun being a wet noodlewith 5 second cast times
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>>121916092
>The little healslut thinks he's dps

So cute
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>>121912978
Wait, Flare works on enemies on flame ground? I maxed out the attribute to burn my enemies with Fireball, so thats what I kept a look out for
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>>121915769
You do both
You're a sadhu
Your job is doing everything at once

You stick your meatbody right behind the front lines, go up and whack shit/do great pulls with your ghostbody, have your meat body drop heals when needed (or beforehand), drop zaibas and zalciai on groups for great damage/debuffs, and emergency safety zones if it's not on CD for dying people.

Your job is to do everyone's job, and better than them.

Just wait til you reach the 130 dungeon
Then your job becomes: debuff everything, kill everything (a sadhu2 can actually deal with groups better than basically anyone else other than a linker, and kill them insanely fast too), and keep everyone alive.


If you aren't doing all the roles and doing them well, then you're fucking up.
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>>121916092
>dungeons are brainless whack a mole rides
>all you have to do to be a "healer"is every 25 seconds drop two heals on the ground for people to walk over
>you don't even need to get off your spirit to do this

HURR DURR I'M A DPS DON'T EXPECT ME TO SUPPORT
>>
D4ATG-CEJ00-YCYBV
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>>121916319
There's no reason to have a party penalty in this day and age, honestly. There's no reason at all to discourage people to play together, even if they get a little more exp.
>>
Shout died on Zemyna just now.
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>>121916461
>Product already owned.

T-thanks?
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>>121916441
yes it works on both the burning debuff and the blinky yellow state. flame ground doesn't always put them in blinky yellow state though so you gotta be attentive.
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>tfw running out of ideas what to try to play
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>>121916487
This is my main grip with the game, why would they divide the exp
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>>121916578
That is the one i posted yesterday, but i left out 2 letters. Noone said that they have taken it so i assumed it was still not used.
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Are market and shit actually working?
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Does anyone on Gabija wanna buy this for 200k?
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>>121916319
>sometimes
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How come sometimes i do get world boss cubes and sometimes i dont? I came when the boss was a half health and did a lot of dmg
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>>121916989
>vubbe glove went for 30k when server first opened
>now costs 200k+
worse inflation than RO desu baka senpai
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>>121916581
I see...

Is it worth getting Flare on C1? I might want to go C2 for more dps (Currently a c1 pyro c1 thau) because I like the finger snapping and the fact it gives me something to do during boss fights while waiting for my cds on flame ground/fireball/firewall to go down, but then it being single target is also kind of offputting for general mobbing
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>>121917172
Only top number of parties get the item, from what I can tell. So you have to deal a reasonable amount of damage compared to other parties.
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Does anyone around lvl 135 on Gabija wanna do some missions?
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>>121916989
>gloves more overrated than a linker
>200k
I'm laughing.
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>>121917172
are you an archer? because your "lots of damage" is actually just "teeny tiny little bit of damage"
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>>121917316
but linker isn't overrated at all, it's objectively good.
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>>121917242
it's because 95% of your income comes from vendoring shit to NPCs
this will never be sustainable, it's like printing money
>>
What do I skill on Linker? What does higher level of Hangman's Knot do?
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>>121917242
Probably has to do with the fact you make 300x more cash at level 100 than you do at level 15.

But fuck economics, I mean who cares about people who will join the game after the launch week, right?
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>>121917394
It would be more fairly distributed if we had markets :^)
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>>121910860
where are people grinding after 170? I can't find a spot as good as trees in 2nd demon prison
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>>121916380
Quickcast don't pay the suffering and the little damage skills from Lv1 to 80.
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>>121915529
>>121915261
I just did it yesterday, basically, you can kill the high vubbe but those one won't respawn even if you kill them all. Kill enough archer for your arrows then leave only one archer and profit.
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>>121917404
pulls linked shit together and stuns for several seconds.
you learn shared penalty, then knot, then shared to lv4 then max knot.
Phys link will get people killed most of the time.
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>>121917484
>not saving lv 130+ cards
hue
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>>121917242
Where did you ever see them for 30k? The blood alone was 50k at the beginning.
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>tfw you made char on SA server but anon didn't reply to your whisper
;_;
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>>121914356
if you have dark brown hair style congratulations, that's what the game considers black
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what's the average time it takes patches to go from korean to international servers?
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Today I gained like 3 levels for just using 3 xp cards at level 45, what the fuck happened?
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>>121917362
>You must go linker or you're a shit wizard!
>Not overrated
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>>121917979
not him, but I can reply to your whisper bby
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>Tree Roots Moles, eh? How hard can it be?

WHY WASN'T I WARNED THIS CREATURE EXISTED
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>>121917484
I also fucked up by not saving my cards and am now stuck at 171.
I might just stop for this beta or slowly try another character.
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I feel like I screwed myself up by going Wiz > Pyro > Linker > Thaumaturge.

Made it to 112 so far, and mage tower is a bit of a bitch with all the fire res mobs. Hope I don't run out of quests until the advancement
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>>121918216
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>>121918216
>50% of a level away
>Not sure if I wanna push into Kino c2 or grab Elementalist for the double synergy with Cryo
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>>121918136
see
>>121912897
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>>121918185
what's your family name?
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Fuck everyone who said that Cryomancer is useless.

Cryomancer C3 is an absolute powerhouse beast.
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>>121916428
i know! even though cleric dps is ahead of mage and leagues ahead of that shitty little afterthought they called an archer
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>>121918496
Both? I'm not American
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>>121918518
Everyone is saying that archers are useless as well.
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>>121918518
people here says barbarians suck at high lvls
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>>121918518
Surely, they didn't went past C2
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>>121917782
thanks bro.
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>>121918518
It's known that Cryo 3 is great. The problem is getting there.
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What do I do now? Do I just come back later or something? This is the first time we're testing party quests.
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>do 90 dungeon for the first time as pala
>activate restoration
>no SP problems anymore
This is nice, I just drop heals/refresh buffs every now and then and watch as everyone else does all the work.
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>>121918518
The problem is high cds.
Same issue kino has.
The funnest classes always have the most brutal cooldown timers...
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>>121918352
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>>121918743
this one doesn't work, gegroup
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>>121918561
I'm not american either. European
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>>121918518
>beast every 60s
Also, sucks getting there.
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>>121918518
snow rolling is hilarious and amazing but
>68 second cooldown
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>>121918851
I'm so sorry.
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>>121918851
In my cunt, people have both their father's and mother's name in their surname
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>>121916092
Depends on build. Int or str/dex?
Int oob explosion kinda neat, since kirvis has some nice supporting spells and still do damage.
c2 priest - sadhu is beyond retardation and you should probably kill yourself. Could've c3 priest - monk.
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>>121918921
What fucking country is that? Besides, he was obviously talking about your game "account" name.
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>>121918352
>>121918776
S L U T
L
U
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Senpais, how2disable the global chat without disabling other channels?
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>>121919010
Brazil, I think they do that in Portugal too
Anyway, I just finished downloading the game, after some kind anon posted a beta key here
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>>121919078
I wanted to know the same thing, but I don't think you can yet.
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>>121918903
pls don't bully
I just want someone to play with ;_;
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>>121917256
I love the finger snapping for the badass value but it's a bad skill and not worth the sp most of the time. getting more ranks in enchant fire is better for the extra damage it adds to all your spells.

c2 is worth just for fire pillar if you don't mind the 2min cd
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>>121917979
>>121918185
I-I'm brazilian, pls dont bully.

>>121919020
>peltasta pure maiden
>slut
Dick.
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>>121919078
I don't know why that looping animation is so satisfying, it almost makes me want to fap, but the outfit is too pure to defile.
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>IMC said they were gonna fix IPF problems
>start game up
>IPF error
okay
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>>121912897
someone explain this table to me please
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>>121917242
>implying 200k is expansive
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>>121919462
Exp curve resets at certain levels, so for instance going from 136 to 140 or so is easier than going from 127 to 128.

That said, I think that chart is outdated. The resets happen at other levels in this beta.
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did anyone save the in game model for this class that was posted a few threads ago? can't find it.

thanks
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>Connecting to the server...
Is this supposed to take ten hours?
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>>121919702
>expansive
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>>121919765
Prostitute, the class.
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is it really worth to upgrade weapons? I will waste 9,6k just to get my 2h sword to +1 and I don't have much money... (350k)
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>>121919765
bruh
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>>121919759
>I think that chart is outdated. The resets happen at other levels in this beta.
the 86 and 136 reset are correct
186 probably too

way better to see at
http://www.tosbase.com/game/exp-tables/base/
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>>121919962
beta
>>
played a wizard > pyro to like 30 before I decided, this just isn't fun

is cryo better?
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>put a +3 Chekan in Market
>played with another character
>went back to check
>my Chekan became a normal Chekan
This fucking game.
Even though is only a Chekan.
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>>121920115
Less damage, more cooldowns, better CC.
Combines with kino for hilarity. For 7-10 seconds every minute.
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>>121920115
cryo is a slower pyro so no
give pyro a chance by going linker at rank 3 you aren't that far. gets much better
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>>121920059
Hmm the 47 one is wrong... it is at 46 when you jump the exp wall.
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>>121920269
>Go linker, it makes every class fun!
Yawn.
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>>121917415
things like these gloves exist to make inflation not matter. newbies can farm fighter bloods and sell them for 100k or a mil or a billion or a 100 billion, it doesnt matter, the relative worth of a fighter blood will stay the same forever (they are needed for more than those gloves too)

what the game needs is more things newbies can farm that people want.

It makes inflation meaningless. In the end its better for a newbie because they can farm one of those billion coin bloods and then have a hundred level of +10 weapons for practically free.
>>
Is rodelero on the highlander c3 tier?
I know that memelander c3 is worst than br, but I also know that probably they arent strong as a barb.
Are they really that good as some people here say?
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>>121918518
C3 is great, C1 and 2 not so much, that's what people say
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Can you use a higher level key for a lower level chest?

Also, can anyone post link to that chest compendium, or is it in the OP and I'm just blind?
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>market finally up
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Why are all the fun classes fucking gated by retarded cooldowns?

Are they retarded?

If they made this game like Diablo 2 and got rid of all the obscene cooldowns and maybe replaced them with high mana costs
>>
Are these daily repeatable quests or what are those green flags supposed to mean? Because other repeatable quests I've done all had a blue flag.
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>>121919449
But they changed the message!
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>>121920596
>C1 not so much
C1 is fine, C2 is just a mess like literally every class at C2.
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AM I the only one having toruble connexting do the server? Something to do with ipf or whatever that is
>>
>>121920717
Repeatables are always green.
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>>121920717
Yellow is main, blue is sub (side quest), green is repeatable.
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>>121920717
Blue is one of. Green are repeatable, but not daily, there's a limited amount of times you can repeat them.

Do so anyways because exp cards
>>
So correct me if I'm wrong but

Swordsman:

Maxed STR till later levels

Wizard

Maxed INT till later levels

>Cleric

Maxed INT till later levels

Archer

Maxed STR till later levels

right?
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Anyone here got a pally? What stats should I invest into? Just CON and SPR?
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>>121921092
Swordsman should max DEX forever
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I want to try a dungeon.
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>>121911457
Works fine for me lol
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>>121921225
210ish max is enough
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>>121920236
shiiiiet
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>>121921106
STR or DEX
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>>121921373
you're right actually
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What mob actually drops the meme dagger? tosbase doesn't seem to be up to date as it doesn't list what drops it. Someone here mentioned that it's dropped by the boss of the level 90 dungeon, which I assume refers to the level 90 instance on Zachariel Crossroads. I went through the dungeon a few times and killed the Evil Necroventer boss, but most of the time it didn't drop anything at all, not even silver.
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>>121921590
Well you're doing something wrong, because it always drops something.
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>>121921590
The boss always drops a blue cube, that contains either a card, talt or the dagger.

I've run the dungeon 20 times so far, and got the dagger in my first run, followed by 1 card and 18 talt.
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>>121903850
Want to know your build fellow memelander
going c3?
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>>121921819

It also drops Beetleback recipes
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>>121920870
I could swear the repeatables in miners were blue
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>stat and progression of each level is 1/4 that of other games
>exp needed per level is the same as other games
It's amazing how many ways koreans think of to increase the grind.
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>>121921819
>>121921663
Thanks. I've only killed the boss 4 times so far but only once did it drop the cube and I got talt from it that time. The other times I didn't even get the cube or anything else. I guess I'll give it one more try and then give up if it doesn't drop anything.
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>>121922136
It might have to do with the party setup. Some guy didn't get a cube in a party I was in yesterday.

Otherwise, yeah, bugged.
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Am I cute enough yet? What secondary hat goes best with this?
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>>121921092
archer needs to pump spr and oblique early on, like 60 or 90

wizards need to as well, to 60 at least, depends on the kind of wizard you aremaking

both also want 30 con pretty early on, and then 60 by 130

everything else to str or int

i dont know how other classes work
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>>121922136
>>121922225
If you die, you don't get boss drops unless you deal a lot of damage to it before it goes down
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>>121921819
i got 5 cubes and 1 dagger

we should try to figure out the drop rate by everyone saying how many daggers:cubes they are at
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>>121918341
Usually group support builds are more difficult to level solo

Sounds like it's working normally
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>>121922431
I didn't die once against it.

>>121922225
I was soloing it so it couldn't have been that.

Actually it looks like it dropped items the last time I fought it, but they never actually entered my inventory.
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>>121922472
About 20 cubes, 2 daggers
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Do any other sappers have problems with Collar Bomb landing?
it's like a 10% chance for it to actually do anything and I'm not sure why.
It isn't because I'm cancelling the animation early or anything.
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>>121918341
should go pyro2-thaum or pyro-linker-pyro

linker-thaum is too gimpy, pyro is only good becuase pyro2 has great 10 hit fireballs that will always be relevent. pyro1s really just.. flame ground and fireballs that are bairly worth casting.
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>>121922303
Hey, you look like me!
How does it feel to be utterly outclassed?
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>>121922635
Maybe it's BECAUSE you were soloing it. Extra incentive to party up or something daft.
>>
BEST ARCHER PATH?
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>>121922914
The path of rerolling.
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>>121922659
so far we are at

1:5
1:20
2:20

which is

4:45

maybe its 10%?
>>
>>121922914
The path of rerolling.
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I'm finding it weird to shoot while retreating as an archer, is there a better ui mode for it?
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>>121922914
Archer > reroll
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>>121922857
All I know is that my hairstyle is an objectively better hairstyle. The nurse headband is very cute though.
>>
>>121922809
I'm class level 10 and plan to go Sorc, which should fix some of the grind speed issues hopefully.

Don't really feel like remaking it at this point.
>>
So I made a new character on Zemyna. It seems that level 25-30 is enough to get yourself in the top 10% of players in the ranking. That's... kind of sad honestly.
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>>121922983
I'm 1:30, 5 cards
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>>121922914
The path that gives you access to an orbital laser
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>>121922914
>archer
Control Panel>Programs>Uninstall Tree of Savior
>>
are there any keys left out there? if any of you nerds have one can i get in on it?
>>
>>121922914
archer3-quarrel1-rogue2

it still sucks though

>>121923050
both your hairstyles suck

>>121923059
>sorc
>going another class that has little direct killing ability

sorc is more of a utility class, its perfect for pyro2-linkers

If you take pyro 1, you must take pyro2. If you were wanting only a single circle of a first class change class you shouldnt have went cryo, but even then not going psyko would have been a mistake.

Basically, dont mix linker and thaum, someone was suggesting this a few threads ago and its a horrible idea.

I think the best option for you is to take pyro2 next class change and then finish up with..

well it doesn't really matter, once you get to c6 in this beta you are going to stop, armband secured, right?
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>>121922983
Most bosses seem to have 10% drop rates for most of their shit, according to tosbase. I think it's a fair assumption
>>
>>121922965
>>121923005
>>121923041
>>121923108
>>121923264
keks that got ks'd by archers pre 30 spotted
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>>121923089
5:75

so somewhere between 5% and 10% its looking
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>>121923472
Yeah that was the plan, stop at C6.

I saw some webms with temple shooter summon dealing good amounts of damage, and already upgraded my card to 5 stars - but my knowledge stops there I'm afraid.
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>>121923509
Actually I have a temple shooter pet that does literally everything your class does, just better.
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>>121923509
>implying I'm not playing archer
IT'S SHIT. FUN BUT SHIT.
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So what cards do people actually save? Everything or just lvl5+ cards? I could probably go straight to 90s dungeon if I'd pop my level 3 and 4 cards
>>
what the ufck how big is the patch
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>>121923650
... what an interesting way to put it
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>>121923717
I want to play Sapper just because she has the best outfit
>those striped thigh highs
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>>121923760
Save 7 and 8, grind in prison until 168 or so, pop them once you hit the wall soon after.

Is what I hear, but I'm not entirely sure if that's how it goes.
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>>121923760
use cards to stay at the recommended zone level, always run the 50 dungeon and 90 dungeons 5 times for an easy 10 levels. If you see somewhere really good to grind for you, grind there.

Save every 7 and 8
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>>121923814
That's nice anon. Where did you get that? Upvoted btw :-)
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>>121923859
Yeah all the other characters I made are male but I'm glad I went female for sapper, it's too cute.
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>120
>getting bored of class
>want to make something else
>wont get to c6 before beta ends unless i stick with this

;-;
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>>121924105
>tfw quit this shit game before going c4
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>>121924016
Got lucky on a boss - no talt for me xD
No, in all seriousness. Is the AH safe or do items still disappear?
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>>121923472
Pyro 2 -> linker -> Thauma.

Linker with Thauma is good but you simply need to postpone it. You really won't lose anything of value by doing this and get to enjoy both best support classes of the wizard branch.
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>>121923814
I knew you were a fucking memester, grats on the dagger you deserved it man.
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>Play Wiz 2 / Linker 2 / Sorc to 130
>Start a Cleric for the hell of it
>All cleric spells are utility on top of doing more damage than virtually any wizard skill
>Absolutely decimate every boss without ever running out of mana
>Int is more effective due to the 1 point = 1 damage actually being decent on multi-hit skills

So Wizards are the support bitch class then?
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>>121924438
Fucking knew it, talking about memebarians.
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>>121924449
>wiz
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>>121920310
The table is correct. once you REACH lv 46, the next level up requires less exp. The table begins with lv 2, meaning that the amount of exp is required to reach that level.
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>>121924325
>thauma less than 3
enjoy your annoyingly short right hand buff duration and tiny head
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>your IPF files are damaged!!!
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>>121924449
A few less seconds on the cooldowns of some of the more important skills in the tree would fix this.
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>>121908572
The cap is definitely over 400. Map levels goes up to mid 500s
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how is flare useless?

been using it at lv10 with a lv1 flame ground to wipe out enemies that step on
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starting a new char

archer C3 looks fun
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reminder that literally the only time it matter to use xp cards is to not use them for the first few levels after xp resets
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Is this worth crafting to sell or should I just sell the recipe? Don't play a cleric so I don't know how good those stats are.
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>>121924971
Lvl 15 Flare deals 543 + magic attack damage.
Lvl 15 Fireball deals (324 + magic attack) x 15 damage.
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Quarrel shooter or Ranger?
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>>121925240
it goes for around 150 - 240k on the market
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>>121920660
my shit vanished tho
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>>121925361
Wow.
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Circle 2 archer worth it?
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>>121925403
I just checked the market, that shit's 400,000+.

Imma jew this shit.
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>>121925240
>Someone told this weapon have more thorns. But, the thorns of this weapon is proper now like the building has a one lightning rod.
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>>121925538
Yes, the attributes for it are great. I went C2 archer into sapper.
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>>121925636
Someone got a beta key for that shit.
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>>121925538
Yeah, the crit attribute on swift step is really good.
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>>121925636
Top quality translation
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>>121925592
that is definitely a retard jew pricing it out because no one else is selling one

the real value is somewhere in the range i mentioned because the other options have stats very close to it and cost only 120 - 150k

but feel free to put whatever price you want
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Is there any other secondary weapons to equip besides shields for archers?
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>>121925767
meme daggers
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How do I get more icoins?

I need another reset for my archer
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>>121925913
speak with the lady in the eastern klaipeda
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Is the Alchemist guy here? I'm still interested in how you're doing and your thoughts on the class so far.
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>upgrade weapon from +5 to +6
>success!
>anvil is gone
>silver is gone
>weapon is still +5
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You really have to do this shit one by one?
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Who /cute/ here?

Barbarians need not respond.
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>>121924971
your other skills are just better. in the time it takes to cast flare, you could attack twice with the enchant fire buff for more damage, it's just not worth it.

see >>121925276
since you mentioned lv10:
Lv10 Flare : (391 + MAtk) x 3 charges
Lv10 Fireball : (234 + MAtk) x 10 hits x 2 charges
Lv10 Flame Ground : (171 + MAtk) x ~30-40 hits

like i said before though i still use it for the badass factor
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I thought necro card summoning worked like sorc.
I've turned Glackuman into a meatball.
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>>121926159
Am I cute? >>121918776
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>>121926159
Am I cute? >>121919078
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>>121926213
It used to make the Boss out of corpse parts yeah but now it's that thing.
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>>121926202
Don't forget that level 10 Flame ground is 100% uptime since it's duration is exactly its cooldown time. You can even kite the boss on it.
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>>121926040
>eastern klaipeda
what
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Is it worth it to solo missions for the exp?
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>>121926213
That's what a Shoggoth is, I'm not sure why it worked differently before (probably placeholder until they made the Shoggoth model).

I'm convinced Necromancer is infinitely better than Sorcerer.
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>Set a fire down
>Someone immediately runs over and sits on it
I fucking hate you people.
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>>121926159
im cute but im a barbarian i want to get to corsair
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>quest says to kill monsters in this very specific area
>area has been empty for over 5 minutes now
>monsters outside the area don't count
>can't lure them into the quest area without them running off

And fuck you too IMC.
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I still get the ipf error

wat
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>Click Weapon while crafting
>nothing happens
>Click gem
>put weapon
>gem eats weapon

is this how it works, couldnt find a crafting guide on the FAQ
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>>121926128
Yes. Don't make yourself regret it like other anons have.
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>>121926128
ye senpai stretch that boipucci
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>>121926509
What? They have shit range.
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>>121926509
I actively look for free bonfires to enjoy the 30 silver savings, goy.
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>>121922472
9 cubes
2 cards and 1x zircon, rest talt.
Is zircon good I think it's just a slightly better talt. But both are just weight-gold, ready to be sold at NPCs.
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>>121922983
shouldn't it be 50%? either it drops, or it doesn't drop.
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>>121926506
I haven't really had the chance to experiment with this level of necro.
Looking forward to adding skeletons to this gang.
Also the card here (shadowgaler) has a basic attack that hits twice like temple shooter, but its melee and its other special skills don't seem as good as temple shooter.
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>>121926756
I don't mind if people wanna use it, but stop sitting right on the damn thing and cutting off my own healing.

>>121926804
So do I, I just hate people who see someone plop one down and immediately sit on top of the damn thing.
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>>121926804
I'd shit out bonfires if I could but you have to wait for your bonfire to expire first before putting another one down.
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If you're on Zemyna, I'd strongly suggest not putting items on the auction house. It appears to be eating people's items.
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>>121926943
>cutting off my own healing
b-but it doesn't
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>>121926869
In my tests the shadowgaler did less damage with his auto attacks than my temple shooter. Like as if the total attack damage was split in two hits, while the temple shooter did two whole attacks (temple shooter is probably getting nerfed later on).
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>>121926697
You just used the fucking gem enhancement one. Don't fat finger next time.
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>>121926509
Fires are bugged as shit.
>sit down next to fire
>no buff
>get closer
>no buff
>put the flames directly into my asshole
>finally get the buff
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>>121927073
>They sit down
>My heal buff vanishes
Bullshit

>>121927119
You'd think this would be a big thing to fix, but nope
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>>121927119
Only three people can benefit from a bonfire simultaneously. Did others sit at the bonfire?
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>>121926860
The dungeon boss drops a cube... that you open for your prize (talt).
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does the game work yet
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>>121927097
i dun goofed
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monk is cool and all but the dmg is so underwhelming when you have a seism barbarian in your party.

shit every class is underwhelming when you see them tear through everything
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Anyone selling a dumbbell?
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does anyone know where that one hidden quest in the owl burial place is? something from a hole i think
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>>121926943
Oh the buff can be blocked? Didn't know that.
Kind of a weird mechanic.
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>>121927398
mhhh there's no preview of that skill in the builder

what makes it so awesome? better than catar stroke?
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>>121927572
Catar is good too. So is Cleave and Helm w.e

Honestly their skills are just op as fuck. This is even after a nerf. Though i wreck them in PvP as a monk so I guess it's all good.
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>>121927572
dunno if it's better but i can tell you from first hand experience seism damage is bonkers
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Is there a better way than looting bots to get money around lv65?
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I just completed a repeatable quest 8 times and all it rewarded was 5 minutes of increased SP regeneration each time. The fuck IMC?

http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/50002/
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Would a full DEX skill build Cataphract work? Their skills have huge damage to them as well just like Barbarians. I want to overkill
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I did it reddit
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>>121927785
Fuck those Blue Pwndels or whatever, they have like 10x more HP than the archers for some reason. Not listed on the database either.
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Tempting, but I'm not sure if the Electrocute synergy with Cryo is worth not being able to go kino3 or alch later on.
Would give me more options in a fight though.
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>>121925538
>>121925669
>>121925709
The Swift Step attribute is great once you've got a decent amount of crit. At low levels it isn't really worth it, but once you get 70+ it starts to shine.
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what the FUCK
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>>121926080
Awakening was pretty cool, I saw a guy with awakened scale boots that gave INT +49, so I'm going to have to make some of those.

For today I changed skills to play with Tincturing. The basic HP/SP potions seem awesome. They only require mats from NPC and you can sell them cheaper than Fedi potions and make huge profit still. Obviously it will be more competitive when there are more alchemists, but I already made over a million silver today just selling potions. Not so sure on the attribute potions. Would anyone ever buy this? They go up to level 15 I think.
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>>121908231
>>121908372
>>121908525

Neither is true. I have that attribute maxed and it gives me 16 Stamina (from 40 to 56), and I'm pretty sure the later levels gave me Stamina points more frequently than the first ones which might be the source of the confusion.
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>>121927716
Hi, level 200 Doppel here with C3 Barbarian.

The skills aren't OP. They are simply put made ready for later game content. If they scaled horribly or dealt horrible damage, being that they are ALL single hitting abilities, we wouldn't be able to progress in the game past 140.

Barbarian is, and I repeat this almost every thread because the amount of retard and noob comments here, IS a early bloomer but falls off later.

Monks are just as good later on with their own gimmick style of combat. Druids can shit out damage. Clerics can shit out damage. Wizards can shit out damage and Sorcerers just sit back and watch their summons shit out damage.

Later on monsters all walk around with 50k health points and deal 1~2k damage to you. This is the point where a self healing semi-dps Monk won't feel it since they can just heal themselves, but a Barbarian or any other Swordsman class who cannot heal themselves at all will find themselves sitting down WITH POTS for 2 minutes to regenerate 10k health 70 health points per 2 seconds.

You faggots need to learn the fucking game before you mumble about Barbarians. You aren't in any league yet if you're around level 130.

Sorry, but this is the truth. This thread goes full retard over a PURE OFFENCE only class out damaging their SUPPORT / DMG class. You aren't supposed to be on par with a Barbarian with a fucking monk or a Krivis you monkeys.
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The Characters feels so homogeneous, most of the time you cant distinguish 2 diferent classes, and feels underwhelming.

The quest are simple but not so rewarding, same with weapons, and its hard to balance this and power creep on weapons... so its so so

Some places are memorable, some are just the same with diferent skin.

Love the instanced bosses.

end of blogpost
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>>121928172
What? Once you advance in rank, it restarts at 1.
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>>121928173

>+80 crit dmg
>lvl 5

Of fucking course, they sound awesome. Does the duration increase with lvls too?
>>
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>>121927972
blue pawndels are the definition of not worth the effort.

Even when in your level range they easily shit out 3k+ with that stupid spin, have more hp than the blue stoulets, and give out jack shit for exp, unlike blue stoulets which are big ole bags of xp.

My suggestion is to just run and ignore them, they are not worth it.
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>>121928318
who gives a shit about the damage when wizard skills take a million years to cooldown
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>>121928416
I think it stays the same but I can't remember
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>>121928173
what? awakening the item granted the item +49 INT?

that's crazy good

is the awakening bonus always fixed for an item? or is it random?

Try awakening a meme dagger, maybe it gets even more broken.
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Are the rates for mausoleum 4f bugged, because there's no way I'm getting so much exp or is the drop from lvl 86 really that big?
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>>121928662
it is that big
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>>121927976
Anyone? How good are the c1 elementalist spells?

>>121928662
>or is the drop from lvl 86 really that big
It is.
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Any high level players (170+) in here that can tell me just how bad the grind is past 136? Getting here wasn't hard at and all and im thinking of saving these up for the higher tiers. Don't really know if it's worth it tho. I know that saving lvl 7 and 8 scrolls for the high end grind is worth it.
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I got my very own meme dagger. Is it even useful for a pyromancer?
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Anyone on Gabija thats a healer wanna do some merc missions?
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>>121928318
>monk shouldn't be on par with a Barbarian
why the fuck not? just because they can self heal? barbarian can run, and his damage doesn't rely on stamina. Barbarian is a fucking rank 3 class, Monk is rank 5, it fucking should dish out as much damage or more as a god damn rank 3 class.
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>>121927894

Not as good.

Barbarian skills have more damage, less cooldown and overheat.

As a Cataphract you are gonna need more STR no matter what, otherwise you will be lacking in damage.
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I don't understand the point of saving up EXP Cards till later. Can someone explain? They give the same amount of EXP no matter what, don't they?
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>>121928606
pretty sure the bonuses are fixed. Arde gives some amount of magic attack+
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>>121928486
I feel sorry for people who didn't have access to this.
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>>121928838
it adds that dmg to your enchant fire so it's basically twice as effective
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>>121928945
>Arde gives some amount of magic attack+
Jesus.
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>>121928942
They are saved for the levels that are the grindiest to get you past a certain bump. 82-86 for example is pretty bad and the EXP cards are great to use to get past it.
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>>121928838
It adds that damage to everything. Use a rod, drop a fireball. See how much damage each tick does. Then do rod+dagger and check the damage.

It is silly.
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>>121928318
Barbs don't fall off later retard. You just haven't farmed enough or didn't spent enough in attributes. If you can't fight strong mobs yet guess what? Go fucking farm up until you can. I doubt you have more then a +5 weapon.

Also the speed at which you blow through content and overkill 2/3rds of the game in with no effort gives you way more time to farm then anyone else.
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>>121928942
Monsters give the most exp when you're within 5 levels of them, if you blow your load to be outside the level of the map you're getting less exp leading to later grind.
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>>121929110
I better find a rod then. I'm still using my level 40 staff at 105.
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Sorry for being the nth guy asking this but how do you get over there?

>>121928780
>>121928715
Damn, it feels like being lvl 15 or something again.
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>>121928813
the hell

what did you grind on that let you save all those cards?
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where do I get more icoins?
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anyone selling a dratt 2H on gabija? im still trying to farm 1 to no success
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>>121929194
The thing is, even using EXP Cards I usually find myself below the required level of a map, so that is not an issue.

Or should I actually grind more between quest lines?
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>>121929110
That shit is useful for BRs?
I mean 2H has a shitton of dmg.
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>>121928942

It's basically grind now in easier, empty places while saving cards and avoid horrible grinding in crowded maps later on by using those cards. People start to save lvl 7/8 cards from lvls 130 to avoid the grinding of 160s
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>>121929304
i didn't even grind that much. did the 50 dungeon to 60 then did the 90 dungeon to 110ish.

early levels i grinded some panto archers outside of tenet then i grinded inside tenet on those golems. did a bit of grinding in the masoleum but not much and i used some cards to get past the 80-86 barrier.

honestly i only used my cards if the recommended level in the area that i was at was way higher then me
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>>121929385
I see. Thanks for the input.
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>>121929339
You can't equip a meme dagger if you use 2H dummy.
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>>121929193
So for archer, is multi shot better that oblique for single targets, but worse for crowd control?
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>>121929642
i think he means sacrificing a 2H for a 1H + the arde dagger
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>>121928173
Tell me where are you selling them usually. Dont see alchs at all, hence buying from NPC.
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>>121929559
plus i had ToSbase open with the quests for the area at all times so i never missed a quest.
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>>121929559
i mean the level 6 cards

i had to blow every single one of them just to hit 127

and that was after popping them only after i got to 109 purely with dungeon exp

how the fuck did you jump from 110ish to 134 with no cards
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>>121929642
I mean 1H+dagger, dummy dummy.
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>>121929650
Didn't mean to quote
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>>121929807
I had a shit ton of lvl 5 cards saved as well. im at work right now but i had a screenshot on my house computer. think at 115+ i had like 200+ lvl 5 cards.
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What damage type are druids reliant on? is it magic / phys hybrid between the Carnivory and the shape shift or does that end up being pure magic.
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does this exist in our version? http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/603104/
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>>121929780
I just sell them on the market
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Am I distributing my stats correctly for Swd1>Pasta1>Hoplite2?
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>+12 bullet shooter
S-should i stop?
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>>121929816
It works best for skills that hit multiple times rapidly, since the damage is added to each hit. Multi Shot, Zaibas, anything Pyro, etc. I don't know if Barbs have stuff like that.
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>>121930256
Stupid me.
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>>121930329
Not worth going over 10. I'd rather funnel that money into attributes or getting better gear.
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Whats a good place to farm for money at level 110? I haven't leveled up many attributes yet.
>>
Just a friendly reminder that there's a total of 60 Lv7 EXP Cards throughout the whole of Main Chamber and its associated areas.
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>>121929241
Anyone know how to get there?
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>>121930269

You have too much CON for your level. Pump those points into STR instead. Worry about CON at later levels.
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>>121927363
please read the description on the gem, it literally tells you what to do. And Gem Enhancement is gem enhancement, you literally drag the gem into the "Place the item you want to enhance" into the respective window and put weapons in it so that the gem receives exp.

I want you to suffer
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Are those Elet monsters in Demon Prison actually healed by fire damage? Is Demon Prison going to be suffering for 30+ levels?
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>>121930329
Never stop +15 or bust
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>>121929307
Did you collect the boxes from adventure record/ranking thing?
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>get shield lob thinking its going to be some cool Captain America shield toss
>mfw using it for the first time

What a disaster
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>>121930760
How much Con is too much tho?
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Dudes, how does Physical/Magical Defense scale?
It looks like it doesn't and just reduces the damage by X amount?
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>>121931441
I don't believe so for player characters, because the difference in the damage you take wtih broken equipment and nonbroken equipment is pretty fucking big.
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Need input on trying to get the most out of rodelero. Trying to theroy what would work best with the class.

-c3 swordie: focus on AA skills
-pelt1, hop1: guardian evasion, swash. Finestra only to 5, syncro thrust would work with rodelero's c3's extra strike damage.
-pelt1,barb1: crit buff slash, stike stun, evasion scaling strike
-c2 swordie into hop/barb: slighty more AA. No pelt for evasion or swash though.

Going pelt almost seems not worth it., umbo/rim will fall off fast. If I focus on guardian for evasion I'll never use gungho. Course this is good to counter the evasion drop on finestra if going hoptlite.

Hoptlite only c1 means not full uptime on finestra. Also stuck to mostly spear. I'd have to find a crit rate sword/mace to make up for the buff loss.

Barb I'm unsure of having not played one. Does the crit from cleave only apply to the skill, is it a self buff or a enemy debuff?

I know, rodelero is meme/suffering. I wanna try making it work. There's something there that will support it decently. Question is what's best.
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>>121931441
That's pretty much how the entire game's damage calculations work, yes. INT up 10? your spell's going to do 10 more damage. Woo.
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Is there a list anywhere of what monster gems do what? Off the top of my head I know Hanaming is Heal (Cleric) +1, Vubbe Miner is Multi Shot (Archer) +1, etc.
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>>121931776
No wonder the scaling is so shit.
The only thing saving me is bosses being dumb enough to stand still in my fire ground.
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>>121931439

As long as you don't neglect your plate mastery attribute, you will be fine without any CON all the way up to like 145 or so, then you might want to start placing points into it, depending on your equipment.
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i'm literally the dude who killed most vubbe thiefs, no fuckin dio two-handed sword on sight.
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>>121911982
it was a ruse
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>>121930723
>>121929241
Do I have to cutepost? Please anon tell me how to get there.
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>>121931661
swashbuckling is godlike, and pelt attributes are quite good. you should go pelt 1 at least.
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Is it just me, or is Elementalist seem to be pushing for wanting to have ranked both cryo and pyro?
In fact, it seems like c3 on all three would be hilarious.
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>>121931832
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/gems/
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im lvl 33 should i use my exp cards?
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>>121931654
Shieeet.
I have 800HP more with the +8 CON breastplate.
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>Didel Colossus sells for 100K

Fuck me I had 3 of those drop and tossed them to the NPC vendor because I thought they were common as shit.
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>>121932395
Yes, of course, dummy.
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>>121932256
He should go pelt 1 and nothing more.
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>>121932395
yes
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>>121932302
The later ranks will easily have better skills.
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>>121931776
That is good though. STR and INT compound by 10% each class rank. At lvl 200 at rank 6 you would have 427 STR/INT, meaning +427 damage to EVERY attack/spell you do.

Not to mention crits from physical attacks, which are 1.5x the damage, meaning 640 damage on each crit + the skill damage + the crit attack stat, which at 427 STR would be 427.

So with full STR at lvl 200, a physical attacker would auto attack for 427 + weapon damage. If it is a crit it would be 1067 + weapon damage.

That is VERY strong.
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>>121932440
it's a recipe not a drop?
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If I did 9 runs of the 90 dungeon and grinded a few levels in the secret mines, how much grinding would I have to do to get over the lvl 136 hump?
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>>121932641
Weird, on the database wow it doesn't list the sword as dropping from anything, but I definitely picked up a few from the bosses in the forest section.
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>>121932593
Also, for multi hit attacks/spells, the extra damage is added on too.

Formula for each hit of an attack/spell is:

Skill/spell damage + weapon damage + STR/INT (then *1.5 +crit damage for a crit)
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So are Collections bugged? i got all the items in the Tenet Collection but everything is still greyed out
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>>121932576
That depends on if later ranks have elemental classes.
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>>121932869
You have to manually click and drag them to the collection window.
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>>121932436
I changed to klaida mail anyway. In my case since I'm doing 2 str 1 con. I decided to have more defense. and it was a HUGE fukcing difference
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>>121932739
I would suggest spending 15 full-runs on the dungeon.
I know, it's three whole days (because 5runs per day) but that would ensure you hitting at least 105 or a rough equivalent of 90-105 in exp if you proceed with the questline. Getting over that slump should be easy with saved up exp cards.
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>>121932906
why would you want more skills that can be resisted by certain mobs and not straight magic
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>>121932593
For crits, the skill damage is also multiplied. Your formula is wrong.

It is ((STR + weapon damage + skill attack) * 1.5) + crit attack
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>>121932817

you picked up just plain colossus, they drop at an acceptable rate.

but that fucking Didel Colossus recipe man, I killed 600 of those fucking Catacombs Candle Spiders and didn't get shit, but some either kind or retarded soul got one to drop while i was in there and they just left it on the ground
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>>121932965
STR AND CON, AY LMAO.
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>constructor chapel full with botters
back to adventuring it is
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>>121933041
Because nothing in the game resists everything?
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>>121932493
so what kind of cards are used late game then?
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>>121932256
>>121932502

ok, no more than pelt 1. Rank 3 filler? Ideas on what would synergize decently?
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>>121933082
guess I was lucky I farmed didel colossus recipe + 2 colossus there in an hour
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>tfw grouping with me on sapper and 2 cataphracts as dps, with a divekirby healing
I'm surprised things are dying at all.
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>>121933342
i mean rodelero is shit in my opinion, but i think hoplite and barb should go well with it.
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S>Arde Dagger 900k

Its on the market if anyone needs on.
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>>121933567
Cataphract armor is so cool but they are so shit, charged spells that deal 1 hit are basically useless.
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>>121932436
Get light plate set anon, it makes you invincible til lvl55 or so
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>>121933114
gotem
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>>121933095
is it bad or something?
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Does anyone have a spare key?
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>>121933689
Aren't you worried that it might just disappear without giving you any money?
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>>121933917
me
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>>121933917
Yes.
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>>121933894
are you a pelt?
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>>121934050
>>121934084

Could one of you be so kind and send it to me?
[email protected]
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>>121934147
nah
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>>121933689
I'll give you 700k for it straight up, no tax.
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>>121934147
nope
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Being chased by so many bosses has never been this much fun
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>>121933917
I have two, but selling prices dropped from 20€ to 10€ overnight. The numbers of desperate people have declined a lot, thanks to the buggy beta PR.
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What server should I play on ? I just noticed I had a beta key....Is there a guild or something? And what class is fun to start as?
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>>121934174
>>121934219
fuck you faggots
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>>121933689
Fuck that guy
>>121934178
I am even willing to pay you 750k, even though I would have to sell everything inside of the warehouse.
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What do you guys think about the potential system?

From what I've seen it's

-1 for trading the item
-1 for each gem socket
-1 for each failed refine
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>>121933585
yeah i know it's not going to be amazing. I'm just trying to fogure out what compelemtns it best. I really need info from a barb on those skills.

It's more or less, is the cleave crit on the skill/buff/debuff or would just going hoplite for finestra with downtime be better?
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>>121933027
15 is overkill. 10 runs is all you need to have it easy
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>>121931661

Cleave buff is all attacks after for like 4-5 seconds.

none of the barb attacks have weapon reqs so they stay relevent later.

I would say go Pelt 1 > Barb 1 > Rondoodle
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>>121934418
I suppose it's sensible, though can trading break the item? I would change it so that trading only drops if it won't hit 0. Also is it ever the right idea to use gems, ever?
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>>121934395
>>121934178
its already been sold.

>>121933919
Not really.
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I was bored and decided to try the hanaming achievement.

Hair color looks more dark brown than black, but it's pretty neat that this particular hairstyle gets the hairband color changed from blue to red as well.
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>>121934295
pls respond. Literally waiting on the server selection screen
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Any other classes do this?
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>>121934258
skelly on the wall is like ayy lmao nigga
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>>121934418
It's nice and shit at the same time. Take away item destruction at 0 potential.

Add to refinement tooltip that failed refines reduce BOTH potential and refinement level by 1.
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What a fishy sword
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>>121934116
highlander 3
inb4 meme class. I like to play solo and decided to have more HP and sheer brute force to not get butt fucked if monsters with resistance to critical appears.
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>>121934418
I need a class that can increase the potential of an item.
Like, I have seen like a single +9 weapon with full potential and tons of +4 weps. Problem is that you will never profit from selling those items because the costs to upgrade the weapon cost too much, you will never be able to market that shit if buyers can just buy the cheap shit.

>>121934573
Don't worry, after the clearance, I only had 738k. Back to farming money before Arde Daggers are being sold for +1m, I guess
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So I entered demon prison
killed a few mobs
and then the game froze and crashed

is this normal?
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WTB
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/602105/
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>kill a mob
>get a shit ton of gems and weapons with slotted shit already


wait what
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>>121934885
>fucking PKer
whose life did you just end?
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>>121934885

Color variation mobs give bonuses
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>>121934885
they go from market straight to mobs
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so is SPR even useful when it comes to SP with wizards? potions heal a static amount and SP recovery seems so marginal. I don't really see the point
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HOLY, Shout is still up, Am I dreaming?
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>>121934732
rofl, you fucked up son. dex still is the best stat in the game dont let some 4chan fuckers tell you how to play, go dex-str you don't need con as a fuckin swordie. for a moment i thought you were a pelt 3 memer. and monster critical resistance is shit even at level 150+.
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>>121929241
teleportation maybe?
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>tfw it's possible to get a full rank multishot off without charging it
Not that it matters much because of attributes, but still pretty funny.
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>>121935297
I'm not going by 4chan logic. I'm going by own. and it have been working so far.
also. I hate copying builds
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is there a teleport statue on the fifth floor mage tower?
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>>121934672
>Fire Property: Explosion
Wait, this was removed? I don't see this at Pyro trainer?
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>>121935682
yes
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>>121935637
it is not copying builds it is min-maxing. there is a fuckin best way to do it and we fuckin do it. but fine do it your way.
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>>121935694
They're both Elementalist attributes.
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Complete noob here, jhow do these circle things work?
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I am the meme, pls don't bully.
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why is there a fucking onion on my map
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>>121936060
>tfw no dagger in 15 runs
I just want to be part of the cool kids.
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>>121936131
it's called a kepa
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>>121936178
>tfw bought dagger for 150k a week ago
lmao
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What is the name of the alchemist's sp pot?
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favorite monster?
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>>121936178
I really feel for you anon, dont read this: dropped on first run
Some other guy in my party has 19 runs without dagger
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>>121936375
Concentrated SP Potion
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>>121936060
Oh my gosh that squire I'm in love with is there! I gotta get over there right now!
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>>121934418
Good for refine/socket, shitty for trading.
AH is almost the same thing, kinda good/shit at the same time.
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>>121934702
>Take away item destruction at 0 potential.
That would prevent them from selling cash shop items that prevent item breaks when upgrading, not gonna happen.
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i don't know, besides the balancing and some of the linearity im kind of liking this game and i don't agree with half the shit on the feedback forums

i feel like im the only one though
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Found this recipe earlier on, had to craft it.
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Is SPR archer a meme build or is it actually effective?
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Is the game running worse after the patch or something?

I'm getting frequent stutters and freezes where I had none before
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>>121936534
How do i even find them on the market? Or are there just none atm?
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>>121936743
meme
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is there going to be a third international beta test? if so when? please respond my friends want to know and i have no idea, i've been looking for like 10 minutes.
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I just dropped a wooden shield on royal mausoleum. WHAT THE FUCK
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>>121936721
>Ctrl+F kiss
>phrase not found

These threads have really started to decline.
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TFW computer was broken so i couldn't sign up for the new wave of beta keys. just kill me now senpai
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>>121936770
they'll show up if you just search "SP Potion", there might not be any up
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>>121936761
Had a couple of errors that kicked me out of 90 dungeon runs earlier.

Never happened before the patch.
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>>121936743
It is effective... until lvl 50 or so.
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>>121936721
Too stupid for files ...
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>>121936860
most of us aren't furfag erpers who spend 95% of their ingame time sitting in town doing emotes

we actually play the game

go back to fucking wow inn you fucking werido
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>>121936605
They could just have cash shop items that restore 1 potential to an item.
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>every character you level is going to have to go through the exact same zones doing the exact same quests in the exact same order
Why do devs think this is a good idea for MMO's, a genre that thrives on replay value
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>>121936448
Whatafuck man I want a semen dæmon costume too
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>>121936903
Ah, I see. I also noticed on my wizard that my SP was being consumed super fast pre-50 but at like level 70+ those issues became nonexistent basically. Guess I'll get my archer SPR to like 20 and keep str around 40 for now and start pumping DEX.
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>>121936883
There is only single Small sp pot for 200k on the market atm, hence i assumed it was not SP potion or something. And typing in just potion is a straight way to too many results error.
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>>121937052
Priests are the sexiest... I always dream about lifting their dresses up and fucking them in standing doggy!
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>>121935637
Dex is better in every way imaginable for physical DPS.

Highlander gets +50% crit damage for free which is HUGE, so you want more crit rate, you have zero crit rate and tons of crit damage, which makes absolutely no fucking sense.

Swordsman get so much base HP they never need to put points into CON, so you're only making the game harder by having more max hp which means you need to rest at a campfire for longer or use more pots to heal to full.

Your builds shit.
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>tfw chugging sp potions like its water

Better potions when?
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so I'm level 75 at Zachariel Highway which is a level 76 map and everything gives 0.2%. Is this supposed to this slow?
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>>121937121
Id honestly advice putting those 20 into con and keeping oblique at 1 till like l90-100. You will do just fine with small sp pots. They will keep you going forever and cheap as hell.
>>121937235
The problem with STR is that Crit. Damage increase is simply a flat number added on crits instead of percentage.
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Seriously if i have like 131 level 7 card, 80+ level 8 and ONE level 6 card, can i use them all at 163 and finally be free from this?
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>>121937235
Actually the highlander passive sucks dick

It's 50% more crit atk
which is a stat that just adds flat damage to your critical hits

So you'd go form say
200 to 300 crit atk

Hurray, you get 100 more damage on a crit
that's fucking nothing
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>>121937321
>mobs giving .2
>low
lmao....wow kiddies these days... i remember the days of grinding mobs that gave less than .01
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>>121937321
I wish I still got 0.2%
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>>121937260
Oy vey goyim I'm not rank 6 yet hold on.
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what are the most useful skills for c1 swordsman? most people seem to take pain barrier, and gung ho looks like a horrible trade off, +70 damage in return for -58 physical defense? leaving it un-enhanced for +20/-4 doesn't look so bad, is that what you do?

but concentration also looks pretty shitty really. at 5/5 and maxed the attribute thats 111 extra damage for 11 hits, which may sound nice but past level 100 an extra 1k damage would barely be worth the cast time of the skill, it would literally just be 2 extra auto attacks

the bash knockdown looks useful

thrust 1 looks good if its actually piercing damage. Meaning you can use it on pierce weak enemies for the bonus damage. Is this right?
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>>121937235
>>121935637
I forgot to mention, dex gives EVASION which means you take ZERO DAMAGE and you actually evade everything 24/7. That saves you so much silver on HP pots and reduces your downtime a lot, more max hp doesn't do that.

Dex is overpowered, stop being a retard.
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>>121937326
B-but what do I put my skill points in? I went C2 archer and only swift step and multi shot seem worth maxing out.
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>>121936743
Its literally the only way to grind with out killing yourself

max spr
max oblique and pump its attribute
use a bow for double damage to flying mobs
find flying mobs you can one shot with oblique

Its literally either that or auto attacks, and no combination of str and dex can make auto attacks better than oblique
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>>121936860
the mods dont like kissing
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>>121937321
Don't worry, that's still considered to be "levelling".
If we speak about grinding, that's killing mobs worth <0.1%
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>>121936834
We're still in iCBT 2. They ain't gonna announce a 3rd one until this one ends.
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>>121936917
Does anyone know if our CBT has the Nesting Chicken? I've seen pictures of it, but I assume they're from the Korean CBTs
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>>121937594
I went sapper though and I play with a friend who is C2 ranger, grinding is going fine desu.
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>>121934258
I'm still mad I didn't pick up my stuff.
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>>121937434
thrust 1, bash 3, gung ho 5, concentrate 5, pain barrier 1. never max gung ho, max concentrate later when you have money, buy the knockdown attribute for bash. that's it.
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>>121937462
this so much

I'm a full dex priest, and I don't even have to heal myself because I can never get hit. Don't even have to safety wall half the time. I just wish dodging gust attacks actually dodged them instead of flinging me across the map
>>
Post character screencaps. Give name of class. I'll turn your shitty character into a shitty drawing.

Come at me
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>>121936559
yeah those antlers are neat, havent seen them before ingame
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>>121937260
is this you
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>>121937768
that looks fairly sensible, but with such a short duration on pain barrier, when do you actually use it? Surely any time you would need to have it up you also want to just not get hit by the attack since it would do damage to you? With such a short duration it looks like a pre-emptive skill, but if you can pre-empt you should just be not there to take the hit in the first place?

It confuses me as a skill. My only experience is as a mage who was always in melee dropping fireballs on shit and i never got knocked down by anything except those annoying dog things in mage tower 1But surely a swordy can just jump attack in circles to avoid that?
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Is there any other way to level at 146?
Prison is full and also has a bad habit of freezing and crashing my game
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>>121937467
I am Archer c3>scout>rogue.
Max multishot. At least 10 in swift (i have 15). Oblique l1 or l10/15 depending on which type of potions i currently can afford to use. Twin Shot l5. As for the other skills - i find them useless. You only theoretically need heavy shot for pvp against swordies, but they have ignore pain, which makes it useless again. Kneeling shot is just bad. Fulldraw l7 = Heavy shot but with better mobbing potential.
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>>121937768
ok
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>>121936743
It's meme as fuck.
Go dex, get some str and spirit, and upgrade your weap.
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>>121938129
You are actually gimping yourself and should reroll desu senpai.
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>>121938093
Some attacks like Hoplite's Stabbing are channeling so you cast pain barrier before you use them so you don't get knocked out of it
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>>121937892
Barbarian. Give it your mediocre shot.
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>>121938093
value point, by staying close to the boss you can keep dpsing without care.
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>>121938191
Don't worry if you have enough evasion you won't get hit anyway
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>>121936761
I've had to restart the game every 30-40 minutes because stuff just stops doing anything.
I've about had enough. The game is boring me as it is, but I'm getting sick of having to log in and out repeatedly all the time.
I'm done.
>>
>Gabija laggy as fucking dicks
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>see some swordsman auto attack botting some onions in miner village
>a monster gem drops but of course he doesn't get it
>oh yeah i heard these are a thing i'll just grab it
>hmm i wonder how much gem exp it gives
wow ok
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>>121938191
he could just not use gung ho, it's shit anyway
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>>121937747
There will be another chance im sure>>121937892
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>>121938102
Guess I'll put my remaining 5 points into heavy shot.. thanks. I got a point in kneeling shot because it seemed nice for downtime but it's just absolutely useless since you cannot use skills during it.

>>121938162
That's what I'm trying to do now, yes. Still feels really weak but I hope C2 sapper will be strong.
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>>121938249
please allow 1-4 hours for delivery
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>>121938093
>>121938093
I need 7,5secs to fully charge my Catar Stroke.
Anything can happen while I charge, especially if I stand right next to a boss who looks like he is about to unleash hell and enemies casting fucking cast
>>
The fuck is this Cut damage that Dust Devil is labeled as dealing? Is it another mistranslation of Slash?
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>>121936060
uh...
So who of /tosg/ needs an arde?
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>>121937892
Don't do anything weird!
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>>121938479
Sapper C2 is good for broom trap which is on a 45 sec CD, basically the only good skill in the entire archer branch and it still sucks
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>>121938651
At least it lasts 15s I suppose.
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>>121938621
I need one but can't afford it
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>>121938268
But that's only on Gabija, all the action is on Laima so there is no problem.
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>>121938621
me.
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>>121938621
please be in Saule
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>>121938621
I'm making a qt quarrel shooter and I'll need that
name your price
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>>121937892
Okay
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>>121938621
I need one, but the game has annoyed me too much to care anymore.

>>121938713
Lamia doesn't fix the lack of fun factor.
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>>121938479
C2 sapper is good.
It isn't as good as other classes, but if you have decent enough gear you can kill bosses in less than a minute.
>>
>dex evasion swordy

does this mean i should use leather armor and max the leather attribute?
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>>121938806
You think C3 sapper is worth it? Or better to go something like fletcher.
>>
>>121938621
>>121938621
700k on Laima, please
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If I dump all of my stats to STR on Monk (lvl 135) I get 319 STR (bonus points are cray)

My double punch does 1129
with blessing it does 1317

Now if I dump all of my stats in DEX I get 220 DEX (tfw not as good bonus points)

My double punch does 1269 crit (1001 non crit)
with blessing 1428 crit (1206 non crit)

I am consistently critting also, lets say 80%. Now why in the fuck would I trade away all of that accuracy/evasion for a measly 100ish extra white damage?

In conclusion. STR is utter dog shit. Also pirates yo
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>>121938516
No worries. Take your time.
>>
>>121937892
pls draw me >>121922303
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>>121935736
>min-maxing in a beta

just have fun senpai
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>>121937892
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>>121938754
Forgot to put Fletcher
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>>121938927
I'd go Fletcher or Rogue over Sapper 3.
Sapper 3 AoE would be really good from broom trap and collar bomb, but bosses might suck.
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>>121937235
whatever
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>>121939120
Is it true you can't use crossbows with fletcher skills?
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>>121939126
Grabbing that a3 if he plans to go SR might be decent as well. I totally enjoy doing 16x1600(2500 on crit) multishots in dungeons.
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>>121938976
but you get increased carry weight lol who cares
>>
>>121938976

DEX is so broken in this game. Are people addressing this issue in the forums?
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>>121939251
Yes, but thats why weapon swapping exists
>>
So when you level up, you gain a status point.
And if you do specific story quests, you also gain status points. And if you check some of the wapring statues, you also gain status points.

Now if I use a status point reset scroll, do I actually gain all the spent status points back or do I only get back the status points gained by level up? What happens to all the other status points? Are they wasted and erased or stay at the attribute that I have contributed them to.
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>>121938976
STR is literally usless
>>
>>121939408
All.
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>>121937892
Hunter

helm is shit tho, remove if you want
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>>121938705
>>121938715
>>121938750
I sold it (600k) to the guy that has done 25 runs without a drop and healed 3 runs for me, next one is reserved for tosg though

>>121938736
>>121938946
I'm on gaba with this char sorry
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>>121938976
that may be, but how often do you crit? have you tried lowering dex a little bit and pumping strength and see if the loss in crit rate is more than made up for in the increase in average damage?
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>>121939301
You can't post criticism on the forum without it being rejected by suckboys
>>
>>121938976
But what did your double punch crit for with full str?
>>
>>121939537
Where does all this money come from?
>>
>>121939089
min-maxing is fun.
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>>121939537
Could've just given it away you jew.
>>
I'm a little disappointed in the Arde Dagger.
I thought it would provide an extra hit when attacking, thus activating another blessing.
Sure the extra damage it provides is nice but I was just expecting more.
>>
is there any confirmed release date yet?
>>
>>121939789
That is still a huge discount. I sold mine for 1.1mil in 5 minutes like 4 hours ago.
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How do I advance cirlcles, is this shit bugged or something?
>>
are there any drawback to removing gem except for money?
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>>121939639
You dont even wanna know how much you get grinding later
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>>121939580
I had 6 DEX if I went full STR. I would need some ridiculous luck to crit with 6 DEX.

It did happen like twice when I tested and it was about 2000

>>121939568

I'm pulling a percentage out of my ass it was about 80%. Everywhere I read (on kToS and forums) said to get crit rate to 233 then focus on STR. My crit rate is at 228 right now so I'm getting very close.

The point here is that sacrificing EVASION and ACCURACY for a measly 100 extra damage is retarded.
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>>121939857
>Talk to the archer master
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>>121939857
Check your quest list.
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>>121939789
I've given away a temple shooter card and some of my old equips for free to fellow anons, so don't jew me. Also arde is being sold for 1m right now

>>121939639
Don't ask me I had 87k before I sold that
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>>121938976
These are the things we need to know.
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>>121939571
ya kidding me, all the forums is is criticism
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>>121939947
>>121939929
Fuck, thanks
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>>121939785
oh well carry on then fucknigga
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i love when people sell stuff on the market with less value than the one of selling to a npc.
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Do we have a healer for 90dng on gaba?
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>>121935094
>psychic pressure uses a percentage of your SP per second
>it doesn't scale with SPR
>potions heal a static amount anyway, which means less SPR/SP = better
am I just being dumb, or is SPR is useless for wiz? (or at least psychokino, maybe it's useful later)
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Is the 175 dungeon worth doing? Exp wise.
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>>121939537
I hope I get my dagger within 15 runs, if not I'll go create a new character to try out another class.
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so whats the advantage of druid shapeshifting?
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>>121939886
I dont understand why they decided to just drop AGI as a stat when making this, but i also dont understand a lot of the stupid shit with these stats, cons next to pointless, str/int are almost literal +'s rather than any sort of %, while DEX is just every good thing rolled into 1 with no drawback compared to putting it into another stat, just make spells crit and noone would want other stats.
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also I never said I don't have Dex. it is amazing how you guys only think about min-max, holy shit. if the status don't get a overhaul (like the classes) this will be one heck of shitty game
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>>121939873
Loses one star/level
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>>121940278
I'd like to know too.
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>>121939873
In recent KR patch they made it so you lose gems when removing them.
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>>121939639
mobs pretty routinely drop crafting patterns that vendor for 20k+ after level 90 or so
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>>121937892
Priest. Draw me cute ok?
Ganbatte~
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>>121938976
Doin gods work. Now get some videos up to solidify it so it can be seen by all. I hate that str is so bad
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>>121940278
Gives 50% if you solo, so yeah probably.
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Doesnt STR/INT kind of scale with attributes? As far as i understood it, (str+equip damage+skill atack) = skill damage.
lvl 100 attribute = skill damage * 2.
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>>121939886
accuracy is a non issue in pve.

the way str works is it gives you like 5 extra crit damage per point in the end.

each point of strenght gives you

1 base damage and 1 crit damage, which then gets multiplied by the 1.5x crit multiplier, meaning you have like 3 damage for the 1 point in strength, but str also gets the circle bonus, for every circle you gain its 10% more, so at circle 6, each 2 points of strength actually gives you 3 points of strength

so thats 3 strenghts, which means 6 * 1.5, or 9 bonus damage on a crit

which is 4.5 per point

str seems to be a late game investment stat to me. Basically its where you dump your points to get extra damage after everything else is squared away. I think with 600 levels in the game that potentially people may end up having ~300 or so even if they arent a 'str build'
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Wait, why is there hardly any people around the lvl 50 instanced dungeon?
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>>121934702

Item's aren't destroyed at zero.

They're destroyed at -1.
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>>121940163
do you have to be level 90 to go into the dungeon? I really want to get a head start on my arde dagger grind but I'm only a 75 c2 priest, but I do have a lvl 41 attribute blessing
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Anyone know where the Plants Bracelet drops?
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/602105/

>>121940867
You hardly need it, first time I get into dungeon was the lvl 90 one.
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>>121940807

It's the evasion that makes DEX so good of an investment over STR. if AGI was a thing things would be different.

But yea you're right. Once you hit the 233 crit rate there isn't any reason to dump more into DEX. You will dump everything else in STR.

At this point every melee class will do this, 0 build variety from there.
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>>121941061
yeah 90 is entry requirement
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>>121940807
>600 lvls meme
I wish people lower their expectations already, the fucking OBT is a month away, and the max level in beta testing is 250, we're not seeing anywhere near lvl 500 in like 5 years.
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>>121941061
Yes. It can wait though, my Priest was two hitting things except bosses in the royal mausoleum
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>>121941137
I think the problem really is that Dex is a combined stat of Agi, Dex, and Luck from RO, while everything else is just the single stat (strength, int, vitality). Dex is doing way too fucking much to not use it
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>>121941137
>At this point
well, if you need to keep pumping it to keep the evasion up

or do you not focus on evasion (leather, + evasion gear) and just enjoy the passive evasion bonus?
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>>121941123
I just went four runs before I went to bed, I just want to do all my runs
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>>121937703
It does. You get the nesting egg and then later there is a recipe from a quest boss or something I think. I can't remember when I got the recipe, but it was after Mausoleum.
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>>121941206
yeah my damage is fine in the Royal Mausoleum, I just wanted to get as many dungeon runs as I can in. I just wish crafting this golden falchion wan't so annoying, I have to camp the bots for falchions because only Kepas drop them and all I have are 50 pairs of boots
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>>121941137
Is 233 crit rate the ideal amount? I was wondering about this since I have 208 crit rate and wanted to know if I should go higher.
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Can I safely use my lvl 6 cards until I'm beyond the lvl 136 threshold? Or do I need to save them for grinding purposes.
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>>121941378
You could probably just sell all the shit drops and be able to buy one, was like 150k on gab for one
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>>121941497
literally does not matter when you use xp cards
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>>121941281
Well on Monk the plate mastery is kind of a must for the extra stamina so I'm doing that. You do have a point about investing more DEX for evasion but I don't normally get hit with physical attacks with this much of it, that could of course change later on in the levels. Magic attacks on the other hand wreck everything.

In a perfect world I would rather be a STR/CON build if the stats worked differently. It's just that DEX is so useful you can't not invest in it.
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>horde of lizardman mage
Oh fuck you too
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>>121940779
easy to solo? long? difficult? what class were you when you soloed? etc.
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>>121940805
That's only if attribute = skill damage and not skill attack.

If it is just skill attack, it would be
{STR/INT+Gear Attack+[Skill Attack*(1+attribute level/100)]} = skill damage.

And I'm inclined to believe it's skill attack.
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>>121941572
if I get 150k worth of boots before I get 3 falchions I'll probably do that
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There's a tombstone that eats Zolem cores, what happens if I give 20?
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I give up, 146 is my limit.
Prison is a shitshow that requires a party, but is routinely full and lags like a motherfucker at the worst possible times.

There are no other zones that you can really grind in, and this grind wall just appears out of nowhere, if the game had been about grinding before I could have taken it, but this is just like a fuck you out of nowhere.

This shit just is not fun.
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>>121941630
Literally does when there's literally no places to grind
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>>121941497
I'm in the same boat as you (have 100 lvl 6 cards at 136.)

I was hoping someone at 170+ could chime in on it since they know first hand how the grind is. But I'm thinking at this point just dump them and save lvl 7 and 8 ones.
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>>121941696
There are enhance attributes for skills that have no skill attack

IMC is far too lazy to have two different enhance equations
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>>121941695
Wiz3 Ele 3, took like 30 min? had to wait on meteor for a few of the ranged mobs.
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>>121941767
You can do the dungeon for decent experience until around 146 or so. Use them then, and then save your 7 and 8.
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>use blue orb that summons friendly monster
>log off
>come back to monster killing all of this scum
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so is Monk strong or not? and by strong I mean Corsair tier strong.

Videos of them killing some generic boss in 10 seconds doesn't tell me much, there's more to the game than stacking debuffs/buffs and beating the shit out of a standing hp punching bag shooting peas.

I'm afraid the whole bless/sacrament thing becomes insignificant since they're just a flat bonus, once you start dealing thousands of damage +150 might not be that much I think, unless I'm missing something that keeps blessing being relevant forever.
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>>121941838
I want to try it but not ranged. I am though rank 6 so don't know if I can even get 50% exp anymore.
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Alright faggots, High Anchoring or Critical Shot?
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When did you get bored? I got bored when I got to the 90 dungeon and had to run that stale ass no challenge piece of shit 5 times a day. Haven't played since.
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>>121942072
Don't go Priest 3 for monk. Sacrament is completely useless once you hit monk, unless you still plan on auto attacking but you won't. Blessing won't scale that well later I believe. +170 a hit at max attribute lvl 15 isn't all that great.

I'm still confused as to what I should go for release. Krivis for the extra crit doesn't look that appealing either because maxing out DEX is priority anyways and you'll be consistently at 233 crit rate.

To be honest all paths leading to Monk are pretty shit. I wish Divine Might wasn't nerfed to the ground or Cleric 3 would be the choice.
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>>121942072
You can go Krivis>Monk for Crit Attack and +str.
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>>121942024
God's work
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>everyone talk about DEX being OP
>decide to check it out
>damage is shit
>evade is still shit due to Finestra
wew
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Is there a limit to how often you can enter the instanced dungeons?
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>>121942557

/indun
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>>121942458
>Krivis for the extra crit
It's crit damage from Zalciai, althou it decreses enemy crit resistance, so a little of crit chance too.
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>>121942598
/indung is better, faggots who type /indun are the worst.
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Why can't I hit my fireballs? C doesn't work.
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>>121942437
You didn't have to
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>>121942643
you need a staff, no rods
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>>121942458
>Don't go Priest 3 for monk.
Another anon here. I will go Priest 3 for Monk because Stone skin fuck melee's shit up big time.
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>>121942437
I'm not bored yet. In fact, I wish I could play more, fuck being a normie
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>>121942437
lmao
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>>121942458
You can still throw out a Mass Heal or a Ressurection as Priest if your party is struggling, I don't think that is too bad
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>>121942536
>i'm an idiot and have no idea what I'm talking about!
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>>121942689
Okay, thanks. Didn't know that.
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>>121942693
doesn't matter what you go, Monks are absolute trash DPS in the end. You will still just be invited for your heal alone. And you better have stacked INT or no invite.
>>
WHATS
THE
BEST
CLERIC
SUPPORT
CLASS
BUILD
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>>121942437
>When did you get bored?
I dc'd at dungeon 3 times now, i'm not bored but tired. Good night anons. Kissu~no homo
>>
What weapon should a Cryomancer use? Rod or Staff? Maybe have both?
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does talt do anything or can I just dump it all?
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>>121941830
Yeah, to confirm that only with some data-mining, since you can't remove attributes to test the damage formula
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>>121942827
linker thm
>>
>tfw just sneezed and it made shit come out
>tfw shit my pants while playing tree of savior
>tfw still sitting here in my shit
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>>121942786
>ad hom
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Someone sell me a fucking Maulos Club.
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>>121942814
You will still invite me because you have no other choice, so shut the fuck up. I will also rape your shit up in a duel if you start being uppity.
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>>121942536

Hoplite is a class that doesn't benefit from heavy DEX builds.
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>>121939301
No, the official forums are a flaming pile of dog shit. It's full of BR's who can't type in english at all, and you need to "stop complaining/quit playing if you don't like the beta".

Also there's zero problems with the game and it's perfect, if you don't like it just stop pl aying :^)

Fucking cesspool of scum and retardation.
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>>121942951
Pics of your character so I can imagine her wearing shitty pants
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>>121943085
>duel
I'll stop time then put you to sleep
then log off
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>150lv
When will I be able to leave Grind Prison? I spent one day there and already hate this place.
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>>121942458
well now that you mention blessing/sacra not being that great for monk, those who said long ago that diev>monk was the right path weren't so far from the truth I guess.
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>>121942693
Actually Stone Skin is pretty strong against Barbarians and Archers you're right. Every 1v1 duel I had with them it won me the game. Guess if you're going PvP P3 is the best option. Revive lvl 10 with 2 points into Resurrection is also great (Revive has an attribute that makes you invincible for a grand total of 45 seconds after you die)

shit might actually be broken in PvP.
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>>121943314
Diev > Monk here. Don't do it.

I mean, you could, but diev itself is a very lacking and buggy class.
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Do I lose the attributes if I reset my skills?
>>
>>121942458
I think this is the perfect example of why this games class balance is so fucked.

It has this completely unique class system where you can pick numerous different classes(and even the same multiple times) to unlock new skills that you use to "build" your own class or compliment your "end game" class, yet there's so many rank1-4 classes that are absolute dog shit and don't benefit your end game goal at all.

You should be picking class combos that create something truly unique and interesting, creating your own little cool class/playstyle, but in reality you just pick whatever is "less shit" or "more overpowered" and there's barely any choices, if any at all.

Why even have this system if it's going to be so fucking badly designed? This game needs to go back to alpha.
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>>121943274
You better get used to it, from now on it only gets worse.
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>>121943320
Revive doesn't stop you from losing in the duel.
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do you do level 90 dungeons until 115 and then quest and card your way to rank 5
>>
>>121932110
That comic is so retarded.

Asking why she eats ice cream despite knowing that she eats ice cream every day.
>>
>>121943579
maybe it will in the arena? if not back, to the drawing boards
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>>121942827
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/2pfubjbvop/

Something like this desu.

Priest for the standard DPS buffs.
Krivis for the Daino. Zalciai isn't terrible either.
Diev for the -20% cooldowns statue. SP reduction statue is kind of shit, works well with an Archer though.
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How do you disable "there a similar player near by". I don't care if xKirito doesnt have a party

Fuck you IMC
>>
>>121942629
A krivis will have it at something like -50 crit res

the 233 is because your average enemy at 150 onward will have 50-70 crit res usually

So while 233 is 100% at base, you'll have a good 80% or so still

With zalciai, you're boosted right back to 100%, which is really fuckign nice.
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>>121942458
Krivis Stigma is not a thing?

Sice i got it everything just went Barbarian level easy
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>>121942536
>oh noes, finestra took away 30 of my evasion. now i only have 570. holy shit im fucked.
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>>121941747
There's literally never any places to grind so it doesn't matter. The only logical time to stop would be when you're close to the level of a dungeon, because those are the only tangible source of exp outside of cards.
>worrying about how you're going to level up when you reach the stage that you're well into rank 6
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>>121943862
>>121943862
>>121943862
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>>121943678
Party settings. Turn off Show nearby, search for, public party and Use reccomended
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>>121943095
And the only problem is that is not RO.

There's even a kid today that said that because the art was similar it was enough to ToS be compared to RO.
>>
>>121943594
That's complete overkill
>>
>>121943732
Stigma sucks dick, it gets resisted too often and +42 str/int is just a +42 damage for 30s

It is too much effort for too little reward.

if it were more like vendetta it'd be good, but it's just not worth it right now.
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>>121943487
Because ToS devs are a bunch of spoiled pretentious faggots who received too much freedom, and now fucking 6 years later they're being forced to release a half assed game to try and gain at least a minuscule part of the whole investment.

The main problem is they're balancing backwards, making sure certain skills are strong enough to deal with later content, rather than focus on the leveling. Obviously they haven't adressed every single rank 5-6 class, but you can clearly see which ones are playable and which ones are still an after though and need rebalancing, considering how lazy this dev team has been, we can expect a month or two for each class to be somewhat decent, forcing people to invest in the cash shop for strenght enhancers to make their shitty classes work.
>>
>>121943943
what does that mean?
>>
>>121943092
Don't post if you don't know what you're talking about
>>
Where should a level 70 hoplite train at?
>>
>>121938621
On Gabija?

I'll pay 600k
>>
All classes should be usable from rank 1 period
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>>121934645
Gabija also read the OP
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>>121944643
I actually agree with this to an extent. But you must have to unlock them before through other characters somehow.
>>
RIP Shout and Market

Morning - Night
>>
>>121944847
So, what, FFXI job quest type deal?
>>
>>121944908
I-it'll be back in 10 minutes, just like last time!
>>
>mfw I'm the dankest memer around
>mfw I own every single meme dagger on gabija
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>>121941682
They are nothing to ranged cl***. You suck.
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>mfw I'm the dankest memer around
>mfw I own every single meme dagger on gabija

forgot screenshot in last post due to autism.
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>>121945321
ebin
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>>121945321
Here's your (you).
>>
I'm excited to buy fashionable costumes in the full release
>>
how do you get inside that isolated area in mausoleum
>>
>>121945585

Do the quests.

There's a quest chain like 20 levels before the mausoleum that goes inside it for a secret chest too.
>>
How the fuck i get money in this game? suck dicks? i'm freaking broke
>>
>>121945818
but I did

I don't know what I could have missed
>>
>>121942024
did you go priest>pala>monk? how is it?
>>
>>121946113
>suck dicks

It works.
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>>121946063

Yeah, that's more or less the soft cap against a 0 crit resit target.

And since in a party you'll have a krivis zalciai-ing enemies to 0 anyway there's no point in taking more crit rate.

Crit resist barely higher at higher levels currently for monsters or bosses.

It goes from like 20 average at level 1 to 40~50 average at level 200.

I heard there's only one enemy in the game, a boss, that even goes above 100, by just a couple points.
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>>121937892
SQUIRE
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>>121946379
>random boss fight kicks my ass on my shit character
>invite the first person that crosses my path
>activate boss fight inmediatly after they accept invite
>random person is actualy realyl good at the game, carrys me for over 20 levels and give me his leftover items all the time
>sends me a request, but the system is bugged
>we both go to sleep, and the next day I ask him to add me on steam
>realize he is a filthy BR negro
>delete him and ignore him forever
>keeps giving me shit and I keep ignoring him

You don't even need to suck dicks, just be cute and shit act like you need help all the time, it's basically like the real world when people want to help cute useless lolis for whatever reason.
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>>121944167
It means that you can move on beginning at lv110 already.
You get like 31% per run at lv110, that's like one level up per day.
>>
>>121946823
Where the hell can I find these cute useles lolis?
>>
>>121947295
im a boy but i can be anything you want if you give me your shit

pls i can barely afford to repair my armor
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Why are there so many swordsmen/cleric/wizards afk farming in the crystal mines?

You do know what gem drops from Vubbe Miners, right?
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Does equipment lose potential when bought from the market?
>>
Gilt Helmet drops from pawndel or pawnd?
>>
>>121948074
>>121948110
Yes
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>>121946823
slut
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