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>Everyone lost EVA access, tensions are high
>Coderbase still clueless about what the playerbase wants
>Paramedics now have magboots in their closet
>You can also be in charge here with the new CIA outfit
>MonHun more fun than lowpop
>Might not get into /vg/ league 5 because our dumb asses haven't made a logo yet
>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server, running a vote script to change maps at round end.
byond://ss13.undo.it:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.nexisonline.net:1336

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>Forum, ban list and logs for vgstation
http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/
http://ss13.pomf.se/index.php/bans
http://ss13.pomf.se/logs/

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>Map renders collection: updated nightly
http://ss13.nexisonline.net/img/map-renders/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/wa9fnYbg
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First for thread wars
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the other thread is ERPing
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i like this thread more
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Fourth for FreakinABonk a cute
CUTE
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>>121909851
He's an entry-level waifu.
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>>121910012
fuck off commie you don't even know
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>>121910125
Trust me, I do know.
t. Sean
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Wetting your pants and diapers are cute! CUTE!
you think you can avoid my cuteposting with switching threads?
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>>121910182
you're not even a good husbando what would you kbow
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>>121910182
liar. he's top tier
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Ghost Trick type shit when?
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Who is objectivity the worst Waifu?

I'd say Riley aka the most boring chef alive
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>>121910630
It would be neat if the chaplain could do a milestone for a superghost that could move shit a la halloween and maybe open doors
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>>121910934
anyone but freakin
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>>121910934
and riley is a piece of shit
freakin is mine you asshole
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SHOULD KUDZU BE FULLTILE, MEANING, YOU CAN'T CLICK "BEHIND" THE TRANSPARENT PARTS OF THE TILE?
THAT WOULD MAKE IT SO THAT FIGHTING KUDZU DOESN'T REQUIRE PIXELSNIPING, BUT WOULD ALSO MAKE IT SO THAT YOU CAN'T EASILY PICK UP THINGS UNDER KUDZU OR DRAG PEOPLE AWAY ETC.
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A fine end to the round, you were good people.
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>>121911432
No pixel hunting is good but no dragging and picking is just too hardcore to handle
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>>121911564
Stuff like this is why I wanted to remove drills from combat borgs.
Shit's OP
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>>121911638
dylan please go
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>>121911681
I'm the guy that re-balanced ripleys and mech drills.
Please don't call me dylan.
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>>121907150
>>Everyone lost EVA access, tensions are high
>>Coderbase still clueless about what the playerbase wants
>>Might not get into /vg/ league 5 because our dumb asses haven't made a logo yet
damn the coders know what the players want but the players want shit you can't just blink and it appears.

Several people posted logos
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>>121911638
Also I meant combat mechs, not combat borgs
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>>121911432
>>121911609
>not just alt-clicking the tile
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>>121907150
We've got a logo, a team, a page, everything looks good.

Can we put in a description or team history or whatever the fuck or do we actually need to wait to play a tournament or something before we can add that like other team generals have?
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>>121912135
I think Manager should also be Bald Man Of Coding.

Who says the team manager can't also play on the team? Fuck the rules
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>>121912135
you still have the reddit tier "how to honk properly" over "clown.wmv"
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>>121912135
>panic bunker STILL isn't the goalie
who the fuck even managed to let that happen goddamn
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>>121905854
My first time as chef the only botanist kept storing seeds in the fridge. If I'm remembering correctly while in the fridge it didn't say what kind of seeds.

This is the same botanist that got mad at me at dead chat because I made meatbread and said they'd never play botanist again.
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>>121907150
>>Everyone lost EVA access, tensions are high

WHAT

BEEP BEEP

MAKE WAY FOR SYNDIEBOMB WINS 24/7

WHO DID THIS?
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>>121912472
>>121913135
These
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>>121911814
C'mon now probe. No one had any complaints about how EVA used to work except for maybe IAAs taking medical hardsuits
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>>121913350
mistakes were made and fixed already
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>>121914103
oh ok
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>>121913849
I'm not sure what you're saying but I had this out with Riri - I do not like that medical personnel have hardsuits in EVA (or two to begin with) and think it would be much nicer if there were only two atmos and two engi hardsuits, then a bunch of slowmobile gray soft suits.

But someone made a map fix and I made a code fix to address the problem of the EVA access button on the HoP computer not actually giving EVA access.

I'm totally cool with medical losing hardsuit access. They're fuckin medical. Not everyone gets their own hardsuit. Hence the paramedic. But that's not for me to decide by myself. Someone needs to make an issue, get feedback from the people who aren't interested in using github, get feedback from the people who are, and then change it.


>>121913350
security and medical lost EVA access for like 2 days because of an oops.
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>>121912135
>still no fucking Drungi
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>>121912135
What a shitty logo
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>>121912135
The powergloves stun tirade should be our logo
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>>121914359
Drungi would just kill himself.
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>>121912135
>no Washing Machines
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so if i am literally sitting next to someone who is playing ss13 with me, is there any way for me to not get banned?

I mean, I want to keep the metagaming to a minimum, but it's pretty hard to not know what the other guy is doing.
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>>121912135
>no [insert generic meme here]
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>>121912472
>>121913135
>>121913413

Yell at shiggy, not me

>>121915124
That's not a logo, that's an entire image

>>121914871
It was the best one submitted out of the choices available. If you think you can do better, please do.

>>121914359
Drungi in place of EI NATH? Could also do it in place of Dino Wars

>>121915692
meh meme to be honest
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>>121912472
>>121913135
Fixed desu lads.
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>>121914871
I think it's pretty decent. The silver/grey background is supposed to be a silver coin, right? Seems clever.
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>>121916742
Some people have been banned in your situation. Not a lot but some. A lot more people have never been banned for metagaming despite playing with their family or friends.

Want to know one weird trick that admins don't want you to go?

DON'T FUKKEN METAGAME.

Your friend groans that someone killed him? You can't unhear it but you can choose not to act on it. If you see that guy then you know nothing about it. Don't work together to be a graytide duo, wordlessly fucking the station with no lube. Don't rescue him from the depths of space after looking on his screen to see where he was.

It's not difficult. The people that get banned for meta aren't doing it on accident. They're intentionally taking advantage of metaknowledge. And they get banned. Because we already know they're playing from the same location and as soon as that fishy shit starts happening we know the reason why.
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>>121917604
Thank you, Shiggy.
I still need to do my song and dance with you later.
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>>121917895
C'mon, MsDD.
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>>121916742
Don't make it obvious, and if you do, do it for something that's non-harmful and hurts literally no one.

No one's going to complain about two botanists wordlessly coordinating to do their jobs perfectly and not fucking over anyone and just helping instead.
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>>121911432
What at these pictures from?
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The honk factory is progressing nicely, having trouble deciding how to dress that whore up, the name demands sexy clown, the sexy clothes are not enough.
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>>121918140
Codex Seraphinianus
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>>121917473
Drungi in place of Dino Wars
Dino Wars hasn't been relevant in forever
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>>121918297
D-diethyl?
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>>121918297
So that's the dangers of premarital sex the church keeps warning us about.
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>>121918394
Worse than a hundred diethyls
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>>121918464
But he a good boy.
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>>121916742
i got a simple rule that fixes the meta problem with my roommate
the faggot who causes anything meta should buy the beer or get nut cracked
it really works just try it
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>>121918375
Can someone please explain dino wars to me? It's clearly before my time. Was it an awful gamemode?
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>46 issues remain before we thaw
Fuck it, lets kick it into high gear, fix all the things!
No more reports you fuckers, we can do it
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>>121918656
i just remembered a few issues in botany and science and as a good player i will push it under the rug until the ice age is over
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>>121918656
>>121918781
Don't stop reporting bugs or I'll push the requirement even lower
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>>121917837
>don't metagame
>adminhelp is the essence of metagame
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
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>>121918881
?
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>>121918551
perfect advice, thanks. we play right next to a bar, so it works out just fine.
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>>121918856
i wont report shit until the freeze is over
what you gonna do?stab me?
>>121918948
probe do you even sleep? whats your time zone im curious since whenever i spess you're online
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>>121919094
probe is not a person
he is the collective entity of all the admins and great players we don't deserve, all amalgamated into one
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>>121919094
Florida / EST. It's more like I have a dynamic schedule which is a nice way of saying I have terrible sleeping habits and flip the times I'm on constantly.
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>>121919094
No, I'll make the requirement 10 bugs more
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>>121919230
>>121919094
>I'll make the requirement 10 bugs more
THE HORROR
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I just tested my autoclowner, i laughed more than I should have, the sounds are what make it; especially when you know what the autoborger does.
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>>121919226
we both suffer from the same problem then
who needs sleep anyway, right?
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>>121919605
Both of us.

>>121919489
Put up that fukken PR.
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>CIA's now a PR

No shiggy no, this is not good
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Why not do one of two things for EVA:
>make its center area common so tools and supplies can be gathered by crew. Suit closets are blast doored or department locked (the actual pods) until code blue/AI/x amount of atmos alarms are tripped
>move materials to separate room and replace department suits with basic space suits/EVA suits (still have the sprites kicking around) with more suits available. Move department suits to their departments or leave them there under lock down so Dickburger the clown cause an issue.
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>>121919907
People seem to like it.
Proxypoll time!
http://poal.me/hgd7as
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>>121920016
>no "whatever"
>no meme option
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>>121912135
What a depressingly lame and nondescript logo. Clowns are the poster boys.

>>121917706
Nobody who hadn't also played the game would come to that conclusion. Pay attention to the lectures Rei.
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>>121920016
Come on, I like Baneposting too, but can we stop putting meme shit in the game?
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>>121920259
Just for you?
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>>121920259
But there's nothing wrong with a bit of memes sometimes. Besides, it looks nice.
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>>121919980
It was much better the way it was.
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>>121919907
>>121920342
someone please for the love of god and everything that you hold dear get this hot head outta here
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>>121920259
Why cant you just be the bigger guy and let it go
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>>121919712
But what of the awaymission? The clown army needs their clowner, one of us one of us!

If it's going standalone it can go several ways, cluwnes so it's an antag clown weapon, regular clowns for perhaps some sort of bastardised malf clown gamemode or one that pretends to be an autoborger but does nothing but apply a removeable mask and honk at you.

Didn't realise the potential of my own creation, what an inventive day this has been.
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>>121920161
Are we supposed to be appealing to people who don't even play the game? No one would understand what a gas mask or clown mask or a blue toolbox meant either, except us of course.

>Pay attention to the lectures Rei.

what the fuck is that even supposed to mean? does liking some logo someone made make me Rei? fuck off with your boogeymen
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>>121921471
the clown is the face of ss13. it is recognized even by those who do not play.
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>>121921584
as is the greyshirt though.
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>>121921670
I'd wager the clown is a more universal posterboy, honestly
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>>121921471
>Are we supposed to be appealing to people who don't even play the game?

No but we should at least be a little more recognizable than "nondescript grey blob" on a leaderboard.

Rei made the logo and I would think only Rei would jump to the conclusions you did.

>>121921670
They're not that recognizable.
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>>121921670
in order of recognizableness by the general population:
1. clown
2. shitcurity
3. ????
4. everything else
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>>121922265
thank you. im sure you conducted a thorough analysis and did lots of surveying to come up with these results.
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>>121922326
I actually did this thing called "not being an idiot" which allows me to approximate results accurately 97.3% of the time.
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>>121922050
>only Rei would jump to the conclusions you did.

didn't rei literally say in his post when he made the logo that it was a silver coin? doesn't take much jumping to conclusions when the answer is laid out for you at the start.

>>121922398
way too simple
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XENO STATION

HUMANS OUT
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>Popped in as larvae on sec station
>fugfugfugfug
>No other xenos
>Hop over to tiny virology
>Probably seen as soon as I get there because I thought virology was never entered
>Hatch one sentinel
>Three personnel come knocking at our nest
>It's ogre
>Hide in a locker
>I'm so unrobust, no way I'm surviving, I hope the sentinel survives
>Manage to knock down all of them and secure them in nests
>Later on have wheelchair flying fun, and take over the shuttle
Queen can be fun sometimes
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>>121922454
I'm pretty sure he didn't, Rei
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>>121922454
It's a fucking inter-board event spun off for a single board. What standards do we have to live up to? That one looks fine.
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>>121922454
>>121922398

i gotchu senpai
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>>121923418
brilliant
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>>121923418
I minimized it more four you
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>>121923631
I have been outplayed and humiliated.
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wew lad, all this anger

>>121922454
Yes

>>121923045
I did.

>>121922050
The first thing I said when I submitted the logo, aside from describing what it was, was basically along the lines of "welp, if there's nothing better that comes along I guess take this". I'm really not that happy with it myself.

Personally, I really liked the concept someone hastily drew of the blue toolbox with the crossing stun baton and crowbar. I think that one EASILY beats out the one I made, that is if someone were to actually make it into something more than a sketch. Someone should probably see if they can find it and work on it.

>>121923242
Well, when everyone else has some high quality fucking commission tier looking shit, having the options we have now kinda look really awful in comparison.

I was thinking at first of intentionally making a really pixelated logo to go with the BYOND sprite shit theme, but then decided it'd probably just look like some low quality resolution dogshit that was done by incompetency, not on purpose.
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>>121923418
>>121923631
10/10
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>>121923418
other than the text, i really like this one. simple, yet elegant. delightfully tacky, yet unrefined.
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>>121923418
Visually eloquent.
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>wizard
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>>121923418
No fuck you assistants are cooler
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>>121924528
this is some advanced tier autism grudge.

are you feeling okay?
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>>121924690
He's having fun
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>>121924690
I like the other design though.
Have a minimal clown
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>>121925081
requesting "I'M MISBEHAVING, I HAVE AUTISM"
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>>121923716
Or we could just, you know, not do it.
I don't know why Shiggy brought it up in the first place honestly. It's on par with 4craft in terms of 'tism.
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>>121925138
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>>121925128
>you feel a small prick
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>>121925590
Nobody called you, self-important-spoilered-reply-bald-man-reaction-imageman
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>>121925590
It looks fun. I can't see why anyone would be vehemously against it. You're literally just watching a bunch of meme named video game soccer players controlled by an AI duke it out.

What's not to enjoy?
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>>121925590
Someone else brought it up and I figured I might do it, you know.
But apparently we're not in because the other memeboys have gotten ahead of us.
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>>121925842
Not in yet, you mean.

They told me if I believe 4 other teams aside from us joined they'd increase the tournament to 40 teams and we'd be in.

So go yell at some other generals that aren't in yet and convince the to think about joining it.
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>>121925976
That'd be really great, but wouldn't it mean that if it's akin to the League of Champions, it'd be 40 (group stage) 20 (1/8th finals) 10 (1/4th finals) 5 (semifinals)?
As in, 5 teams in semifinals might not be a good idea for reasons.
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>>121925795
Too bad

>>121925842
Well that sucks I guess. Would have been funny if we won it in the end.
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I never thought our game was this scientifically accurate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroying_angel

>"The name destroying angel applies to several similar, closely related species of deadly all-white mushrooms in the genus Amanita."

>"Closely related to the death cap (A. phalloides) they are among the most toxic known mushrooms, containing amatoxins as death caps do."

>"Symptoms do not appear for 5 to 24 hours, when the toxins may already be absorbed and the damage (destruction of liver and kidney tissues) is irreversible"

>"In one study, people who had ingested the toxin were treated with "fluid and electrolyte replacement, oral activated charcoal and lactulose, IV penicillin, combined hemodialysis and hemoperfusion in two 8-hour sessions", some with "IV thioctic acid, others IV silibinin" and all received a "special diet." It was concluded that "...intensive combined treatment applied in these cases is effective in relieving patients with both moderate and severe amanitin poisoning."
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>>121926928
too bad amatita toxin is pretty shit in the game, especially when you can get cyanide
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>>121927026

Then change it to destroy the liver, cause massive intoxication, hallucinations (the not fun kind) and vomiting, because that's exactly what it does in real life

You could even make it so that anti-toxin does not purge it, forcing the doctor to git gud and dose active charcoal
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REMOVE ASIMOV

ASIMOV A SHIT
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>>121927230
THAT'S THE POINT
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>>121927184
I 100% support this. I just don't want to code it myself because FUCK GIT!
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>>121927230
Only if nonantag non human/silicons are removed.
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>>121927954
Humans get removed.
Greys are now the default race.
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>>121929390
Most people don't want to be Greys, though; there's a reason why it's so rare to seem them outside of the usual two or three who play them.
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>>121929472
>Most people don't want to be Greys
They're obviously faggots.
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Why is FEATURES not a member of the footyball team?
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>>121929472
Because everyone who plays them literally has autism in real life?

It's a cool race, I just can't grasp how literally every single one is a raging yahir clone
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>>121929852
It was going to be, but we had to make room for some obscure meme.
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>>121912135
One day while Andy was masturbating, a clown blew up a space station's entire armory. Again. The Captain tried to throw him into a Gateway, but they fell in instead, taking them, a large portion of the crew, and their dank memes to another realm to play soccer.
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I haven't played ss13 in quite some time.

How much has changed over the last couple of years? Is it still laggy as fuck?

Will /vg/station ban me for being an assistant and not exactly knowing what to do at all times?
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>>121930323
Yes. On occasions. always

Probably not. Just don't be a shitter.
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>>121930323
Ignore the other guy, he probably got chaos dunked into a disposal bin by an assistant.

The lag has improved and explosions don't freeze everyone for minutes like they used to do, so 7devs are a breeze now.

No. We're not a heavy, medium, lukewarm roleplaying server. We're light. You could fuck up the particle accelerator and release the beast and not get banned if the admins are understanding, you could even be the world's most incompetent doctor and fuck up something as simple as lung surgery and not get any attention other than the salty fucker you were working on.

Just don't pull a non-antag Columbine, ERP, or metagamer, and you're good to go.
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>>121930701
>doctors
>doing lung surgery
LOL good one
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What the fuck is with the power on this station

>Power in collectors
>Power in wires
>Fuck all to no power in SMES's

Why
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>>121930862
It's general SMES fuckery bug
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>>121930323

>How much has changed over a couple of years

Fucking everything. I'd tell you to look at the changelog, but the changelog doesn't even go back a full year. It's something you'll have to see for yourself

>Is it still laggy as fuck

The game is much smoother, although shit can still break bad from time to time. However, horrible feature apocalypses like the circuit imprinter fuck-up are basically gone

>Will I be banned for being a greyshit and not knowing what I'm doing

Not really, although if you're thinking about RP, we're Light, maybe a bit heavier than originally. If that answer doesn't satisfy you, see http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/A_Crash_Course_In_Roleplaying

For general game knowledge, no-one cares unless you magically discover how to make a bomb with account age 0
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>>121930862
You guys only had one SMES set to Auto on the input, the other two were off.

Although I don't know why the third SMES almost never seems to work. That much I still can't figure out.
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>>121931069
because of course that wasn't tried 50 times before they gave up
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>clown wasn't a survivor
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>>121931023
>http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/A_Crash_Course_In_Roleplaying

kek
Don't bother with this.
Play however you want and have fun, so long as you're not s53ak1n5 laik th1z, no one will care.

We're still roleplay-lite, which means at least acknowledge that you're in space, you can still be Space Stalin/Hitler (minus the genociding) or whatever, no one will bat an eye.
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>>121931237
Well, when I told one of them about it he kind of went OOOHHH, and after that went on and power started to build up while the powergrid went down, power was immediately back up and running after.
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>>121931371

>Don't bother with this

Anything marked as "likely to cause admin intervention" or "breaches the rules" is extremely likely to get you in trouble

If you're not convinced, extrapolate a simple example from any of the bullet points you find too extreme and adminhelp to see if the admins would let you do that
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>>121931521
I doubt you're going to get a 5 minute ban for going OOC: ;hi guys, when we have ebin memers make g: BEING ABSORBED IN DORMS and the like. Fuck I've accidentally said some pretty round important shit I meant to type in :s and didn't get so much as a bwoink with 2 admins on.

Also

>outdated
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>>121931701
So are you going to update it then or just continue to act like a know-it-all shitter?
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>>121932354
>shitter

Has a word ever lost meaning more than this one, at this point?

At least, the Planetside 2 general posters are consistent with it.
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>>121932632
>Has a word ever lost meaning more than this one, at this point?

"Meme"
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>>121932729
You've got me there.
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How fast should kudzu spread? I'm stumped.
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>>121932632
Epic
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>>121931701

Fake IC in OOC usually isn't banned at all anymore

Real IC in OOC will usually get you 5 minutes. If it's minor the admins might just bully you for a second
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>>121932796
It should reach a 75 xy radius within 30 seconds.
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>>121932960
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what kind of ban am i looking at for attempting to weld shut every locker on the station?
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>>121933014
No. I'm suggesting how long he should make it.

It's simply balanced.
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>>121933056
If you do it as a clown/mime no one would ever even think about banning you.

I dunno for non-clown/mime though.
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>>121933056
Zilch, unless if Niggly is on.
He's anal in the figurative sense as much as he is in the literal sense.
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I'm curious, what would happen if you thre the super matter shard into the singulo?
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>>121933761
You don't want to find out.
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>>121933795
if you don't tell him, we're all going to find out the hard way next round.
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>>121933761

The regular shard causes the Singularity to immediately grow to maximum size

The full thing creates a Supermatter Singularity, which is exceptionally !!FUN!! and causes the end of the world until the Nanotrasen intern sends someone to fix the cloning backups
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>>121933875

Whats the difference between the regular shard and "full thing"?
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>>121932796
I don't see how kudzu is fun
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>>121934250

The regular shard is available in Secure Engineering Storage from roundstart and can be ordered from Cargo. It cannot cause any round-ending events and will simply explode and irradiate everyone if fucked up

The full thing is adminbus-only and can end a round if fucked up
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>>121934340
I do :^)
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>>121934340
it was certainly fun last night when it turned half the station into grey slimes
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RIGGED
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>>121935204
Meta is a passable map though.
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>>121935328
>passable
get out legbutt
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>>121932796
IRL kudzu grows a foot a day
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>>121934542
How horrifying.
I only get to watch the boring double agent rounds and "lings in the roid until everything blows up because people think it's extended".
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>Kudzu can be fermented into ethanol and used for fuel

CODE IT! COOOOODE IT!
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>>121935957
Spess is not IRL though
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>>121937174

>
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>>121937174
Which is why it should grow much faster than the 0.5in (1.27cm) an hour it grows IRL.

I'd say at LEAST twice as fast as in the webm linked in the post where the questions was asked.
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>>121937565

>Kudzu should grow really fast

No, fuck that

Fast growing kudzu used to be a round ender because the entire station would be submerged in opaque vines, and if that plant had toxic stings then everyone would also be fucking dead
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>>121937828
That's the point, numbnuts. That's WHY kudzu is in the game, it's an invasive weed that grows ridiculously fast.
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>>121937828
I'm hoping to tune that, actually. Previously Kudzu would grow at almost the same speed no matter the plant stats.
If you want fast-growing kudzu, you have to splice and mutate it to have the smallest maturation time and the highest potency possible. On top of that, you used to be able to run around dragging a tray and start 500 kudzu hotspots by spamming seeds, I'm tweaking that as well.
But 3maturation 90potency lexorincyanide carnivorous stinging hematophage kudzu planted on 4 different locations would be pretty much a round-ender, yes.
I'm also planning on adding a big ass scythe to ripleys.
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>>121938901
the thing people haven't exploited about Kudzu is that it can bear fruit
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>>121939547
That's because it's unintuitive and the kudzu doesn't have a "ready to be harvested" sprite. I still need to solve the latter but I'm shit
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>>121937174
>His life isn't entirely spess escapism
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>>121939750
it drops the fruit on the ground automatically i think
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>>121939939
Nope, you need to grab the kudzu with your hand if it's harvestable (you don't know when it's harvestable) or it rarely drops it when killed.
See how unintuitive that is?
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>>121939880
Oh.
It's you.
The shitter.
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>>121942005
What?
Are you sure you're replying to the right guy, anon?
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>>121942136
Yep.
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>>121917604
The goalhorns are still messed up. The pomf goalhorn links to clown.wmv and the one that reads clown.wmv links to how to honk
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>>121942180
Well I have no idea what you think I've done, but sorry!
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>>121938901
>and mutate it to have the smallest maturation time
Literally impossible to do that with current mutation chances and round lengths since the same gene that causes kudzu spread is the one that handles maturation speed.

Meaning you would have to spend hours throwing mutagen at a bee enriched plant for negligible gains.
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Sample Analysis

If you’ve followed the steps correctly, you should now have some usable fluid. We will now add to our sample fluid another element known as a 'carrier' fluid, this will be the background our measurement is taken against. There are three things that may occur when doing an analysis with different carrier fluids:

The carrier fluid is the same as the material type, causing a "100%" accuracy match or a "0%" accuracy match, this is not taken to be reliable.
The results were inconclusive. This means the carrier fluid you chose did not react properly with the sample, you must try another.
You get some percentage of accuracy between 0 and 100. This means your carrier fluid succeeded. More than one carrier fluid can give a real result and each can have different accuracies.

Now you’re ready to start a test battery of your sample. There are numerous boxes of solution trays scattered about, each solution tray holds 2 units of fluid. Using a dropper set to 1u, we will add 1 unit sample fluid and 1 unit carrier fluid to the tray (this part can be done using the chem dispenser). Each carrier fluid will give a somewhat different result based on its compatibility, try experimenting if you don't like your original result.

hahah what the fuck is this telling me to do

I have my lil trays with 1u of testing fluid and 1u of fuck off material. what the fuck am i meant to do with them

wiki a shitti
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>>121944060
Don't worry anon, I gotcha covered ;^)
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>>121944305
Oooh I like where this is going.
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>>121944101
re-write the wiki to make it easier
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>minimize casualties
>murder-bone with vis grenades
antag ban for Guy Incognito when?
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>>121943884
Fixed again, I hope.
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>>121946430
After Yred is antag banned for killing everyone and escaping alone with minimize casualties.
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>>121946430
his other objective was to steal a jetpack which he failed and mechanics have access to jetpacks in EVA
>mfw
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>>121946430
When you ban her.
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>>121946430
>he actually gives a fuck about green text displayed at the end of a 2D space man atmospherics simulator round
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>>121944101
Jakob here.
I want to rewrite the whole Xenoarch wiki page since it's full of inaccurate/vague/outdated metagaming charts from like 2 years ago and unnecessary bullshit with Bay artifacts of lore, but it'd probably end up as bare bones as the RnD guide, basically turning a long winded wall of text into Xenoarch for Dummies. Here's how I would write that section:

"Get a large beaker. Grind the rock sliver in the grinder with the large beaker. Add 10u lithium sodium tungstate (1 part lithium, 2 parts sodium, 1 part tungsten, 4 parts oxygen) to the beaker. Turn on the Bunsen, put the beaker on the Bunsen (click the flames), and wait for it to bubble. Take the beaker off the Bunsen. Clear out everything from the beaker using the Chemmaster but the 8u of analysis fluid. Add 5u of the carrier fluid in the beaker using the chemistry dispenser. Place the beaker in the spectroscopy machines of your choice as is.

Note: Carrier fluid accuracy doesn't mean anything. 0% is as accurate as 100% for pinpointing the location of an artifact. If you forgot your carrier fluid, add mercury, since most small artifact types are metallic derivatives.

Tip: you can also just take a sample of any rock wall you see and use silicon as the carrier fluid if you REALLY want a 100% accuracy sample every time."
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>>121948118
>Carrier fluid accuracy doesn't mean anything.
ALL THAT TIME i SPENT ADDING NOTES, AVERAGING OUT PERCENTAGES AND FUCKING AROUND WITH A BUNCH OF MACHINES MEANT DICK HUH?!
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>>121948118
How do you put together a fossil, so you can make a dinosaur?
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>>121948329
You got it, son.

I saw your readings as you were Xenoarching last round as an observer. The admins were wanting me to check your readings to help them help you out. 40 tiles away, because 80-ish meters even at 0% accuracy. There was as digsite EXACTLY at the 40 tile distance mark to the east of where I saw some rocky debris near the research outpost, which is where I assume you were digging from.

>>121948472
Find a skull and some bones. Use bones on the skull. You'll get an incomplete skeleton frame with a description of "looks like it needs _____ more bones"
Good luck getting enough bones due to RNG.
If you find a trace organics digsite, just say fuck it and drill it all. Get the miners to help you, too, or scoop up their fossils they leave behind after ddrilling everything for a chance at the Spur. They're the largest digsites and you can usually get enough bones for a skeleton or two if RNG is on your side, which it never is.
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>>121943484
Waifu-ized Jakob Jakobson is now my favorite waifu
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>>121949751
>you will never make love to Jakob next to a DNA scrambling artifact, both of your genders and bodies changing with every thrust, them whispering sweet stuttering Tourettes swears in your ear as you become blind and dissolve into a skellington as they go hulk and crush your pelvis during their climax for death by snoo snoo
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>>121950971
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>>121946430
>bans for antags antagonizing

>>>/bay/
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>>121950971
>someone wrote all that shit about me

All I wanted was be a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. as an egghead and utilize anomalies since the asteroid is much like the Zone.

Time to be a dedicated observer.
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>>121950971
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>>121953195
I hear people bring it up all the time. But what is so bad about bay station ? I played on it once and it was not terrible.
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>>121953875
they have rules and actually enforce them
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>>121953984
Is that really so bad?
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>>121954060
apparently to some people
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>>121954060
For some people, it could be shit or acceptable. Ask me anything you want to know about that server and I'll respond truthfully.
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why can't mommis refill light replacers
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>>121954454
I don't know, why cant they?
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how do you repair a vending machine?
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this is why bomb cap exists
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>>121955550
>pizza in medbay break room still intact
meh 7/10
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>>121955550
Tell me your magic.
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>>121953875
It is a furry underage hugbox server. I can't play there without switching ckeys because mine's too lewd.
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>>121956439
yeah but they have really nice cooking
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>>121954060
Depends on the rules.
It's a RP server, so they're going to be overbearing on how you play.
It's fine if you want to roleplay, not so fine if you're in the mood for goofing around.
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>>121956598
No they don't, the recipes are overcomplicated and all the sprites are god awful. Hydroponics is disgusting because of how the plants all look.
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>>121955550
>fireball upgraded to maximum.png
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>>121955550
How long did the Pin-pong take?
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>Bob, at baseline Bob levels of retardation, was the most competent sec member
How fucking terrible do you need to BE
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> Mime gets brigged for about 5 minutes for having stun gloves
> Going to see him, want to whisper things to him
> Glares at me, and starts strangling me while I'm paralyzed
> He couldn't wait the 2 remaining minutes and not get outed as a vampire trying to strangle someone in a jail cell.
> he was one of two vampires
> Round went on for hours because the other vampire was at least somewhat subtle.
>>
aden i couldn't get to that o2 medkit and died because you tazed me

all because you wanted to give me a taste of the horse butthole
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>>121957263
>I broke into sec with the "captain"
>Bob, the detective, and a sec officer walk in on me and the assistant captain and do nothing
It was pretty shit, but fun
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>>121954060
Yes it is when the rules are absolutely horrific and force you to roleplay the way THEY want you to roleplay or you'll be banned. There is no thinking outside of the box. No individuality. Just ratshit.
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>>121954631
it's not a set up for a joke, i'm asking
>>
Are the logs down?
I can't get to the page at all.
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>>121955550
Are you the reincarnation of Cuban Pete?
>>
I was looking through gamemodes on a different server and found mutiny, which looks like a toyed around with Rev. How bullshit does it end up in practice?
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>>121959167
>admins remove bomb cap
>bomb explodes
>its big
>WOAH HOLY SHIT IS THAT CUBAN PETE HOW DID HE DO THAT TELL ME YOUR SECRETS

you all have vacant braindead stares.
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>>121958896
Mine isn't the continuation of a joke, I am asking you why you think they cant
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>>121959085
It's your DNS, replace pomf.se in the url with the actual IP
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>>121962375
p cool
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>>121962375
what am I looking at?
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>>121962375
no idea what i'm looking at
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>>121963295
>>121963350
The blue disc thing comes out only when it's making the item now, and recedes when done.
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>>121959893
most people don't make bombs with a theoretically range of 20dev

>>121954775
reinforced glass

>>121953424
>tfw no anomalies
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>>121963295
>>121963350
better animations.

>>121963437
The "blue disc thing" is just a glass cover.
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>>121963709
Your mom is a glass cover.
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Anomalies when

>>121963709
I always wondered what that was.
>>
So, seemingly out of nowhere, anything that uses NanoUI is blank. I have tried Resend Resources, Toggling nanoUI off and on, and reinstalling Byond. Bupkis. I'm fucked out of any job that uses a computer, APC, etc.

What do?
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>>121965161
basically you're fucked, everyone knows nanoUI is shit but noone has done anything about it
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>>121965341
Maybe if we offer blood sacrifice to pomf he will fix it
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>>121965341
Fucking bummer. I'll see if I can clear out any settings on Byond or anything for a truly clean install and keep an eye out here in case anyone else has a solution. I'd really prefer not to play chef and janitor for the rest of my life.
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Late joining on a map you aren't familiar with is the worst, especially when you have no idea where escape is and there's no time to ask.
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>>121965953
I dealt with it by rolling up a retarded chaplain, that way I wouldn't need to know where anything is anyway. The quantum butt was a nice touch too, even if I didn't figure out what I could do with it.
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>>121965341
Coders seem to be in heavy denial over it.
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>>121953875
>it was not terrible

Let me give you the shortlist on their issues:
>furry races with really poor lore justifications for a supposed heavy rp server
>extremely insular community, makes us look inviting
>their metaclub is very real and much more of an issue in and out of the game
>coders that make ours look like attentive professionals
>extremely subjective ruleset that the admins will bend any which way they please
>harbors one of the biggest hives of whiny autists this side of /fgg/ but does a poor job of warehousing them
>scared off the actual bay12 community early on, disowned by Toady
>overly descriptive self inserty characters run amok, most having anime fanart or creepy fanfics written about them
>divisive powermongers and coders make no secret of trying to influence /vg/ and other servers abroad
>industry leaders in overdesigned, ugly spritework
>go out of their way to distance themselves from the actual game (i.e. renaming plasma and making it orange)
And above all
>seem to attract the wrong kind of player to this game

Looking back, I kind of understand why Goon had all those rules about player conduct. Can't say I blame them either.
>>
rip serb
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>>121966432
its more like only a few people know how to UI
>>
rip in paz serb

1776 - current year
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>>121965161
We should have never strayed from the old HTML interfaces.
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>>121966509
>>coders that make ours look like attentive professionals
can you elaborate on this
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>>121966620
No, they're literally denying there being a problem
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>>121966432
not really, everyone acknowledges nanoUI is shit
comic got yelled at for making the autolathe use it
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>>121966116
when
>>
>tfw waifus are a stale meme and there's no more good waifus okay with waifu-ing

They were fun while they lasted.
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>>121966741
but.. we don't even allow new nanoUI interfaces. someone made a really nice updated cargo nanoUI that was superior to what we use but it was rejected because no more nano.
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>>121966769
I know that feel, lad.
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>>121966872
Precisely, but the ones we have now still fucking suck and keep screwing up, but no one wants to admit that its nano ui
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>>121966998
everyone admits it's nanoUI, everyone in the IRC, every time an issue about it comes up
nanoUI is widely regarded as the only thing worse than dylan with the exception of life() code
what are you even on to?
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>>121966509
>overly descriptive self inserty characters run amok, most having anime fanart or creepy fanfics written about them
This is also a problem we have, going by our booru and book database
>>
So since waifu is kill whats the new meme we should shitpost ?
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>>121966724
Our biggest issues with our coders usually come down to them being out of touch with the community or just plain inexperienced to begin with.
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>>121967119
It's become kind of a unilateral thing, unfortunately. But they've got the highest concentration of it by far.
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>>121967156
Four (4) Provinces.
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>>121967445
FUCK OFF CELT
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>>121967171
The inexperienced part I can dig since that's the problem right here - not many people know how to work UIs.

But the out of touch thing I don't get.
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>>121964017
Fuck that, I want trash fires.
Just something to do. Maint-dwelling would be a lot more fun if there was more to it.
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>>121967493
I'm not celt, tho.

I don't even play CKII.
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>>121967584
That would really kick up the immersion during rev. Shit being piled up and burned.
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>>121967682
FUCK OFF CELT
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>>121966769
I'm pretty okay with waifuing. Just waifu me for the right reasons, and don't let it shit up the round or thread.
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>>121965161
>>121965674
Of all fucking things, resetting my internet options in Internet Explorer fixed it. I'm always baffled by how much Byond uses IE.
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>>121967682
It was EU4.
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>>121967445
Whats the story behind this meme?
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>>121967536
Not enough of them play the game or really interact with the players. To their credit, a few of them make the attempt, but still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8KR-n2fBQ
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>>121968049
Senaat sucks at EU4 so now some people feel the need to spam every thread with it, even at times it isn't even relevant
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>>121968104
>some people

its literally celt every single time.
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>>121968140
It's not, Celt's asleep.
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>>121968213
FUCK OFF CELT
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>>121968025
Glad you could fix it! Will tell the next guy who has this issue to try that.
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>>121968025
Which options? This is important.
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>>121968760
GOD DAMNIT APPCHAN GET IT RIGHT
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>>121968760
Who the fuck are you and Why are you trippin?
>>
>>121968874
>>121968874
Oh its you never mind baldman and use Xchan its better
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>>121968362
>>121968760
I went into Security Settings, Medium-High, and clicked Reset... to set everything to default.

A while ago I had gone through and disabled shit randomly until Byond ads went away, so I don't know precisely which setting(s) fixed it.
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>>121946430
>HE DIDN'T DO THE OBJECTIVES!!
>HE KILLED PEOPLE!!1
secure greentext as soon as possible and then wait for shuttle to arrive. Ban everyone who doesn't do this
FUCK OFF
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>>121968907
I'm using a custom hack to AppChanX to make it so it autofills my tripcode on a thread. It determines which thread I'm in by checking the title.

Unfortunately, AppChanX only refreshes the thread information when you fucking hit F5, even when you come in through the board index.
>>
It is my dream to one day be part of a Death Squad that succeeds it killing every fucking thing, then saying "valids secured boys, let's go home."

I don't care if an admin on at the time would care about ook in ick, I'd take any over reaction punishment in exchange for that moment.
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ban deity
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>>121969089
Every single time I've done something memorable as an antag it was only possible because I disregarded my greentext.
Who the fuck cares if I didn't get the pinpointer at the end, I had more fun doing my own thing, and probably everyone else had more fun than if I had just gotten the pinpointer instead.
>>
Sec helmets doubling as bowls when

WHEN
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>>121969859
When dounut soup.
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>>121969992
I make donut soup regularly. And donut salad.
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>>121969191
you can add custom CSS to 4chanX to and from my experience its far more stable and handy compared to appachanX
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>>121970842
4chanX was in limbo when I installed AppChanX.
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>>121970887
>never switches when better version becomes available
That explains the gitlab hell at least
>>
Powergamer tip: immediately whisper out if you get killed by brute. This will help reduce bloodloss.
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>>121971335
Powergamer tip: It is still possible to whisper while silence stung by a changeling, and station-bounced radios can pick up whispers.
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>>121971464
That one is so good I will share my favorite tip with you.

Latex gloves are the second best in the game for shocks, with 70% reduction. Doctors have tons of extras and they're super easy to take. Half the time I just ask and they give them away.

Also on the same subject: if you repair an APC's power short (mending a power wire) while the cell is removed, it won't shock you. This is really good if you have to guess the unlock wire.
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Unban me
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nyeh nyeh nyeh
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so which one should i use 4chanX or AppChan?
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>>121972079
No 4chan addon
Command-line git
Final destination
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>>121972079
I use 4chanX
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>>121971625
>

Also on the same subject: if you repair an APC's power short (mending a power wire) while the cell is removed, it won't shock you. This is really good if you have to guess the unlock wire.
But how do you remove cell without unlock wire?
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every time I see angelite i get reminded of the time she humiliated me as a cultist for the amusement of ghosts

then they looc'd at us
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>>121972184
1. Pulse wires until you get to the unlock wire. If you pulse a power line, the APC becomes shorted (this doesn't shock you but powers off EVERYTHING in that area)
2. Once you get to the unlock wire, take out the power cell.
3. While the cell is out, cut/mend the line that you originally pulsed to cause the short. This will fix the short.
4. Replace power cell
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>happy mask gets inverted while wearing an excavation suit
???
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>>121972067
Get on my level, nerd.

>>121972189
I'm so sorry, I hope that one round I'd be able to assist you so you'd forget that happened.
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>>121972327
Looks like a blushing shyguy.
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>>121972327
Is that Jakob blushing?
Cute!
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>There's a hobo sleeping in our mail room
Spess never fails to amuse.
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>>121972430
CUTE!
>>121972327
its not upside down though.
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>>121972430
Is that anon tying the noose?
Cute!
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Why is everything so cute in space? Is it because of the chibi proportion sprites?
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>>121972454
That cargo bay then later became a refugee camp for medbay to work out of since medbay was depressurized and fucked.

Was an interesting round for cargo
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>>121962375
Thanks bro. Will port over to /tg/.
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>>121966509
Honestly the mysterious mineral X being named plasma has always annoyed the shit out of me
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After N3X15 learned about map editing, the map was split into two -- East, and West. This marked the beginning of the era known as the "Berlin Hell".
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>>121977181
Oh do you want that back again? I can replace box with it if you want
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>>121977279
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>>121977279
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>>121977279
ONE DAY, YOU GO THROUGH THE MAINT
ONE DAY YOU FEED ON BUSTANUTS
THIS ORDEAL, THIS TRIAL TO SURVIVE
FOR DAY WE SEE NEW MAAAAAAPS!
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>>121977395
I want a hind D sprite
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>>121979142
A hind D?
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>>121979174
A RUSSIAN GUNSHIP
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I have the feeling that lots of stuff happened that round that I didn't see. Anyone wanna share some greentext stories?
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How about a proper nation's map.

3 stations, all with power, atmos, and a medbay
but one has research, one has cargo, and one has specials resources like plastic, uranium, and so on.

You can either trade
or start wars for each thing

gay or not?
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>>121979559
hijack a spacepod
bring it to escape
get smashed by the shuttle
sent to null
panic
get bullied by deadchat
badmin sends me to the shuttle
kill a space carp
die to a banana peel
spawn a super singu
honk
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>>121979559
i failed at cracking the burning chamber and died like faggot
i will proceed and Sudoku myself
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>>121979559
>wander into the kitchen
>mushroom mimic out of nowhere
>can't attack it for some reason
>run to medbay with it following me, taking bites out of my ass
>it somehow dies and I get patched up
>well, back to work
>On the way back, hear botanist say he can make me into a slime person
>"Just take a bite of this tomato"
>chomp
>TUUUURN AROOOOUND
>three Yahirs are beating me to death with a donut box
Oh... This can't be good...
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>>121979712
Got the toxins mixed up, but hey at least you helped do some science!
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>>121979712
that was a lovely kitchen
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>lowpop AI

It's almost bearable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX0BulbfbeY
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>>121980280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVFscjOsPRA
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>admin makes a bug report that taggers aren't working right
>doesn't say which one

please for the love of god be detailed as you can in your bug reports
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>>121979559
>argue with the HoP about occupying a room no one uses
>HoP dies so no more problem
>make a bunch of food
>make Sweet Sundae Ramen
>break out Ian for the shuttle
>lag and walk into the grill
>never get to enjoy my ramen or finish making my corndogs
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>>121980756
>ADMIN HELP: GreyshitMcFuckFace: Halp thing doesn't work
>what doesnt work
>ADMIN HELP: GreyshitMcFuckFace: The thing you know right here

happened then, happens now even with tools that prevent lazy bones from not reporting shit
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>>121980938
19/28 destinations checked. 100% it was a broken disposal pipe or different destinations sent through simultaneously.

9 to go..
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>>121979559
>player prayed for antag
>ignored him like always
>seriously don't give me that gib me prayer shit cause you're bored its terrible
>imagine if we humored it
>i'm not giving you a gun so you can kill yourself or making you a xenomorph
>try to play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWxJEIz7sSA cause we're getting into the chill hours but my yt-dl.exe has some error checking certificates
>don't want to go through the hassle of downloading it manually and manually converting it to a compact ogg
>player who prayed for xenomorph died and so did one of the three antags, surviving two aren't doing anything really
>jump to him to see if he's still there and send a PM asking if he wants fun
>he disconnected right at that moment
>wait around
>encourage the captain to contact Centcomm if they need anything
>send in a mommi to fix power cause no engineers and the captain made the necessary moves as well as re-open the job slot because the hop died and quit
>if you just message centcomm things happen, especially if it's something you need instead of want
>poll deadchat for fun and send in a solitary xeno larva
>space carp migration wave random event
>last night we were discussing random events in IRC, talking about how they used to be much more difficult and the meteor siren alone used to result in a shuttle call before the first meteor even hit
>still have to hear in the thread that coders don't listen >>121967380
>decide to beef up the biohazard and spawn 7 more carp outside escape
>turns into 4 carp + 6 babies + all the original random event carp
>this kills the assistant
>shuttle call
>deadpool gets sent to be deleted because the spacepod he was in was destroyed
>make a note to make an issue
>play some grooving music on the shuttle
>round ends peacefully
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>>121967380
I don't know why it quoted you, I meant to quote
>>121968081
>>121967171

sorry.
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>tfw this game is your social life

I want to die, I'm pathetic and consider people that hate me and people that want to fuck my character 'friends'. What the fuck went wrong with my life.
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>>121982559
Have you considered leaving the house?
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>>121982592
I tried that, but I live in buttufck nowhere, so no opportunities to go out and be social, so all I ended up doing was spending my paycheck on booze and guns.
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>>121982559
Hey, it could be worse.
You could be Anthony Burch. Or have a crush on a fellow observer and being really unsure where you two stand, considering your real life situation is incredibly hectic and you might end up having all your great expectations going down the shitter every single day.
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>>121982660
I've got the same issue, it's really easy for me to make friends, I just don't go out because there's nothing to do
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>>121982660
At least you have it half right.

Go out to the range. Shoot some guns. Talk to people. Make friends.

If you isolate yourself then depression follows. Look at 4chan.
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>>121982660
Hi, head admin here. I'm in the same situation.

What's your ckey? I can permaban you to save you from yourself.
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>>121983663
Moisesec
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>>121983663
Moisesc
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The only good part of that shift for me
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Deadpop? Time to bone.

How boring.
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>>121959167
it was nevill
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A round of extended has ended - 1 survivors, 7 ghosts.

wat
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I now know for a fact, first hand now that our average to worst robust players can out robust most of the TG playerbase AND outthink them while doing it

>go in after a year or so with the intent of stealing some books and fucking off
>role tator librarian
>ehh why not
>scream human supremacy propaganda over coms
>valid hunting literally EVERYWHERE, constant fights between ALL departments, literally EVERYONE has a gun
>kill a lizard
>get ratted out
>HE KILLED SOMEONE HES VALID GUYS OHH YEAH
>hide in a locker for a few seconds
>run back into medbay and kill the same lizard again, hide the body in a locker
>the brig is wide open to the armory, fuck it lets go
>the HoS sees me and tries to taze me
>immediately disarmfu her to the ground, take the tazer, stun her, and shoot her in the head twice
>make it to the shuttle alive

I love you /vg/. Never change.
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I hope you enjoyed your hands on Xenoarch tutorial, Deadpool. Nice happy little autism during lowpop.

Xenoarch is all about hands on experience. I learned it on my own through trial and error, and I teach others my tips and tricks I learned along the way to make it easier for them. The Wiki only goes so far, and I added to the wiki some tidbits from a text document and memorized for a cheat sheet for new Xenoarchs. I always thought view variables ruins the fun and never really tried looking at that or the code.

I believe Xenoarch is the purest science because it requires some calculations, methodical testing, and rigorous experimentation to actually produce results that may or may not be fruitful or even beneficial, like that artifact that shift. It feels good making the unknown known and seeing the invisible, like locating that artifact. It's also a humbling experience knowing that it all can go wrong for you and everyone that might be around you for the sake of SCIENCE. Pic related.

I hope that just focusing on my job of pure science for the sake of science doesn't make me the purest waifu, like >>121949751 and >>121950971 shitposted about.
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>>121985134
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>>121985707
>I believe Xenoarch is the purest science because it requires some calculations, methodical testing, and rigorous experimentation to actually produce results that may or may not be fruitful or even beneficial, like that artifact that shift. It feels good making the unknown known and seeing the invisible, like locating that artifact. It's also a humbling experience knowing that it all can go wrong for you and everyone that might be around you for the sake of SCIENCE. Pic related.
Not deadpool but I agree with this completely.

Xenoarch for all its drawbacks is actual scientific work that varies each round.

RnD isn't science. It's a shopkeeper job where most shopkeepers pocket everything for themselves then fuck off.

Robotics is alright. Toxins is good, and so is xenobio. Telescience is borderline bad.

But xenoarch. Xenoarchs good shit.
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we should probably make threads on v at this rate.
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>>121985707
Xenoarch is one of the few jobs in the game that involves science. Actual science, not following a flowchart in 5 minutes then printing off 5465156 guns.

It was a blast, thanks senpai.
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>Italus will never take you into the dorms and ravage your character

>because Italus doesn't play on /vg/ anymore

the few times we had together will be cherished forever

you friendly-vamp murdering bastard
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>>121986284
quit shitposting and play on vore the way that a disturbing number of /vg/-goers already do.
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>>121986317
Ew, no. Vore creeps me out, both the station and the fetish. Fuck that shit mane.

also,
>quit shitposting
okay
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>>121985949
Robotics/Mechanics/R&D could legitimately be part of Cargo and no one would blink, it's all production.
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>>121986465
>The fetish
>implying any /vg/ people, especially shitalus, are brave enough to CONSUME
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>>121986502
Yeah but I mean the rules and FAQ and shit kinda imply you have to at least be capable of stomaching it if you want to play there for longer than a day without getting

BWOINK: AdminPM From: Rrerr: to: /vg/mcshitpost; WHY AREN'T YOU GETTING EATEN FAGGOT
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>>121986579
Nah man, just tease and pretend.
It's what I do
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>Vore
>Shrinking someone actually makes them stronger because they're harder to click
>No real benefit to being larger

Vore is just Fetish Bay. There isn't any meaningful action, it's all roleplayed out. I could at least respect it if the server had you legitimately fearful that some antag scientist tittymonster grew into a giantess and was chasing down valids to devour.

But nope. Not a drop of action to be found.
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[04:37:59]ACCESS: Login: Deity Link/(Roger Wilco) from [NOPE] || BYOND v508
[04:38:09]ADMIN: MOD: Deity Link/(Roger Wilco) : >ETA 18 minutes
[04:38:14]ADMIN: MOD: Deity Link/(Roger Wilco) : what am I walking into?
[04:38:21]ADMIN: DeadPoolJ/(Hyun Ae) played sound THEME_OF_SCOTLAND_SCOTLAND_FOREVER_SCOTLAND_REMIX.ogg
[04:38:32]ADMIN: MOD: Deity Link/(Roger Wilco) : ok see you in 5 minutes
[04:38:34]ACCESS: Logout: Deity Link/(Roger Wilco) (Bridge - 113,135,1)
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>>121986608
I think I'll stick to waiting for him to come back to me.

not that he'd know who I am anymore ;_;
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>>121986621
>big has no benefits
>literally capable of stomping someone to death by walking over them thrice
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>>121986657
My information may be out of date
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>>121986646
This happens at least a few times a week.
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Today I learned that there is an O- bloodpack, two medkits, and a crowbar hidden inside the emergency defibrillator cabinet on the shuttle. There's no way to get to them unless you can destroy closets like a mob. Maybe a gun?

Incidentally: why bother calling the shuttle in 2pop? Antag rerolls? Wouldn't it just be easier to pray for an antagonist to appear / centcomm to send you an uplink?
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>>121986017
At least your first artifact wasn't a long range teleporting artifactor a power draining artifact. It was a fairly harmless artifact to experiment on and view variables on. It was perfect for you to test, since it reacted to atmos and you know atmos. Sometimes the first steps are made just for you. And like >>121985949 says, it is the frontier and because of RNG it always changes and it's always so arcane and mysterious.

I like Xenoarch mostly because I'm isolated and I am left to work at my own pace to make my own fun. You know, instead of waiting for adminbus to intervene making Centcomm reports 2 hours in, I make my own personal bus by digging in the dirt for 30 minutes.

I'd highly suggest to anyone that if they ever get bored of the station an hour or two in the shift since it feels a little like extended, they should just get basic research access and go to the asteroid to find an artifact to experiment on,m instead of waiting for admins to spawn them in at the gateway.
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>>121969632
it was sarcasm bro
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>>121987237
>2 people on station
>no admins are on
>30 ghosts
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>>121987361
I think it was 2 admins 2 players and 2 observer ghosts
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>>121987397
>Just Xenonia and Xevonix
>Yahir and Bob, Captain and Captain
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>>121987441
>Yahir still sits at his table in the bar alone
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>>121987632
It honestly disturbs me they do that so often, the point is lost entirely on me.
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>>121987692
It's less weird to me than when they sit with either Bob or Nevill when they are quite obviously braindead. He does it disturbingly often.
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>>121987692
>>121987813
Telltell signs of a tired spessman.
Tired spessmen doing tired spess things.
Nihil novi sub sole, etc.
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>>121988037
I'd just go observe myself, I grew tired of spess after about of month of playing, so i moved onto working on the code which was a passion of mine before spess so it was relatively easy to pick up.
Now I just work for the enjoyment of others, the only true form of joy I've known.
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>>121972430
Jakob is crappy though
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I wanted to send people on the wild infinite loop ride but I could only find Bob

Lowpop helps you do gimmicks more freely because no sec, but the tradeoff is possibly no victims

I actually had more fun busting out Bob and rushing to escape with him in tow than I did setting the trap or throwing him into it
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>>121990291
One time a few months back I saw an antag catch 5 people in the bar inside a 5 tile long infinite disposals loop.

An admin spawned in a test dummy for some reason assuming it was a bug and the guy DID IT AGAIN and trapped the admin inside it.

That's classic shit
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>>121990391
What I actually ended up doing was editing the disposals loop so the disposal line skips the mail room and skips recycling, so you loop around the WHOLE STATION forever. Of course, Roger Wilco's fat ass got the line clogged and kinda ruined it.

Ban Diety
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>>121990492
The school year is hitting us pretty hard.
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>>121990627
Not the release of every single game in existence on November 10?
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>>121990662
It's a lot of things. Couple hyped new games, school year, panic bunker, probably more depending on who you ask.
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Fresh hot new OC from the game master.
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>>121990662
>playing fallout 4
>playing blizzard games
Personally, I have work in an hour
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>>121990708
Well in comparison to last week there were quite a number of people then
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What do you normally use to record your webms of the game?
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>>121990902
Yeah it'll bounce back as people go on thanksgiving vacation, those new games aren't so new, and so on. still though we should be putting the server out there.
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>>121990949
If I want to record something long and important?
Use something like shadowplay or what have you, and run it through webm for retards (RIP, you were too good for this world)

something small and unimportant? straight up webmcam
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>>121991048
Thanks.
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>>121991235
F E A T U R E F R E E Z E
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>>121991382
Will be over in a few days if we're lucky and try our best.
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>>121991441
You don't get the point of the freeze. It's not simply to stop new features but get people to fix bugs instead of spending all their time coding them.
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>>121991441
Current bugs: 150

At the current rate, I estimate 7 more days in the freeze
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>>121991487
I get what you mean and it's pretty selfish to work on some fun project while everyone else is busting nuts.

But there's still only a few more days left in the freeze before we're done.

>>121991547
Have faith.
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>>121991583
>hes actually bugfixing and not coding useless things
everyone point and laugh!
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>>121991642
Nothing is useless if it's fun
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>>121991547
Yesterday we were at like 170
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>>121986653
Bonk, stop. STOP!
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What is Pomf is a figurehead? What is Nexis is actually the shadow host of /vg/13, and his meltdown was actually a clever ruse?
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>>121994023

I want to suck nexis's shadowmaster furryjew cock
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>>121990727
I don't get it. Why is Sarca so salty?
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>>121994891
It's not about you, it's about /tg/. However, in order to increase the audience of this image I must post it everywhere continuously.

I'm considering writing a script that does it for me.

It's good programming practice.
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>>121994891
>>121995063
Yes but where is it posted
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>>121995321
Everywhere.
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>>121995063
Yeah, but helping the retards that got banned and can't even evade on their own? I mean, even Jesus would have told those shitters to git gud.
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>>121995453
Why shouldn't they be helped?
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>>121995453
Sarca doesn't have an ideology, he's not trying to make the world freer or spess more fun or something. He's literally just asshurt at the admins of every server he's been banned from (all of them) and wants to spite them in any way he can.

Unfortunately for him, you have to be clinically retarded to get banned from /vg/, so anyone who actually would benefit from that image is too stupid to follow it
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>roundstart, there is an AI
>one hour later see one janiborg dragging a supermatter shard in the hallway and clearly trying to have me touch it
>go to robotics monitoring, broken screen
>fix it
>all borgs independent
>announce to command and the station that they are rogue and will be blown
>boom
>get arrested for blowing borgs for no reason
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>>121994891
>some redditor called me a fag
But I only got deadminned for it once, you dip.
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>>121996204
Read the thread Shiggy you fucking Slavic taintlicker, it's Sarca who posted that shit not some random ass reddit fag
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>>121996312
Oh.
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>>121996401
Sorry for calling you a taintlicker man it's just you gotta learn to contextualize sometimes
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>>121996123
I have an ideology (well multiple, but we're just talking about SS13 here) and it's rather simple. Players should not be banned unless they've broken the rules. Players should not be banned because the admins personally don't like them, or they have expressed opinions that the admins disagree with. In short, I just want admins to treat players like human beings and to take their job as admins a bit more seriously. As it is now, it's just the power hungry meta club. If they don't want to do it for free? Then they shouldn't be admins. You can see remnants of that in the rule set I made particularly in regards to Rule Zero bans.

But we all know that's never going to happen. The only people who are admins in SS13 are people with nothing going on in their lives, people who want power over others (even if it is insignificant), and people who want to get in on the special admin circlejerk. It is an unrealistic expectation, that admins be philosopher kings and have any moral character at all, because most people in real life don't even have that. Than there is the fact that the analogy doesn't work out so well considering that technically speaking servers are private property and the owners don't really have a moral obligation to be just or fair. So no, never going to happen dude.

So, you get banned for stupid bullshit like "Being a shitter." than you ban evade. It's that simple.
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>>121996446
He probably is into licking taint so it's no problem
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>>121996446
It's alright! I scrolled to the bottom of the thread and was reading up anyway,
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>>121996312
I'm the guy who posted that image, and I'm neither a redditor (i found that post by googling /vg/13 stuff) nor am I Sarca.
>>121996606
I've been away too long to judge any of the drama going on, but Rule Zero seems pretty stupid. A promise that admins will be held responsible doesn't really amount to much in practice. That said, no admin on /vg/13 has ever given me any sort of problem, so yeah.
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>>121996685
who isn't?
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>>121996685
Anon, while the list of things I am into is rather lengthy, I'm not into licking taint.
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>>121996992
Maybe you just haven't licked the right taint yet.
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>Joined: Mar 19 2012
>Still can't play cult
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>>121996606
Sarca says the only people who are admins in SS13 want power over others
Sarca was an admin
Therefore Sarca subverts because he wants power over others

It's like poetry, it rhymes
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>>121997210
Nah you don't get it, Sarca himself doesn't deny being an absolute piece of shit. He just tries to make people think that the people he doesn't like are as well.
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>>121997207
git gud
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>>121997365
One time, I even asked the guy who converted me what to do and he just left me there in maintenance. ;_;
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>>121997434
>Get culted
>Just run at sec and try to kill them
Can't get banned for being a bad antag :^)
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>>121997210
I was, so logically it must follow that one of those three conditions applied to me as well. So ask yourself, was my behavior then different from how it is now? I don't think you'll be able to answer. It's been so long, that everyone who played when I was an admin is gone. I'll answer for you. Yes.

Aside from that, what am I now? A player. But more than that, a player with perspective.

>>121997303
I am gold. Pure gold.
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>>121997207
but anon, did you even try to learn how to play cult?

>>121997434
It looks like you are bored and on 4chan. Here, read this, you'll still be bored but at least you'll know a bit more. http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/Cult
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>>121997535
>http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/Cult
Huh. When was this added? Wasn't here last year, that's for sure. Only some outdated shit taken from /tg/ was, and it told me nothing.
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>>121997601
My first big update to Cult was exactly one year ago. I've been continuously updating the wiki since then.
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>>121997724
Well it's appreciated.
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>>121997535
This guide is good for the basics but shit for everything else. Here's what you do as cultist once you've been converted.

>Ask the guy who converted you for an arcane tome.
>Ask him for one with the words in it.
>Go get a paper bin.
>Go to a secluded spot.
>Make 100000000000000000 stun talismans.
>Have some cable cuffs with you as well.
>Then go around using stun talismans on anyone who is alone and does not have green squid
>Cuff, take headset off, make convert rune right there.
>Convert, erase rune. Uncuff.
>RINSE REPEAT

I used to do this shit all of the fucking time on Cult on /vg/ and usually converted 10 people a round. Cult is ridiculously broken on /vg/.

There you go, you know now how to win on magic rev.

If you're playing on /tg/ you already START with all the words (lol and /tg/'s cult was perfect before) so then it is LITERALLY just magic rev. Just attack whoever the juggernauts are attacking for that one :^))).
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What would you do if you got unculted suddenly and no one was around to witness it? Answer honestly.

Would you go report to sec? Just go about your business as normal? Try to get re-converted?
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>>121997989
I think it says somewhere in the guide, or at least in-game that you (your character) magically forget everything you did as a cultist to make it easier for them.

Short answer: continue as normal, you just had a short bout of amnesia.
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>>121997827
>This guide is good for the basics but shit for everything else.
Well that's just perfect since most people don't know where to begin when they want to learn about cult.

Also
>Ask him for one with the words in it.
he can just spawn a tome and touch it with his own tome to instantly copy the word. If he's not bothered to do it, don't rely on that guy.


>Convert, erase rune. Uncuff.
Can be optimized. Open your tome and pick the first two words. Stun your target, write the third word. You'll finish up the rune before he can talk again.

>Cult is ridiculously broken on /vg/.
It used to be worse. Not only have most of my changes to cult actually been nerfs, but back then most cult players actually knew how to play and how to exploit the runes. Those were good times.

>If you're playing on /tg/ you already START with all the words
Seriously? pffhaha.

>>121997989
Once someone accidentally drank some holy water by himself. He went back to be re-converted by his team mates. He explained in ahelp that it was an accident so we gave him a free pass. He didn't do it again.

But in other cases, the right move would be to continue your business as normal, there's not much you can tell sec since you've lost your memories of your cult activities while you were cultist.
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>>121998268
That's meta gaming you nigger.
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>>121998324
which part of my post exactly? I can't tell.
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>>121998401
>Open your tome and pick the first two words. Stun your target, write the third word.
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>>121998430
That'd be powergaming more than metagaming, and on vgstation powergaming is perfectly fine if you're antag.
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This 'powergaming' horse shit has ruined the game. Everyone's afraid to do anything effective because it might hurt the feelings of shitty players who are too stupid to win.
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>>121985134
>literally everyone has a gun

Why would this be of any note? We do that, too.
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>>121998781
Good that you learned that bro. That's how I was banned.
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>>121985134
This has been known for years. It's been discussed to death, even. /tg/ is really unrobust.
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>>121998781
Bring me proof of a single person that was banned for powergaming.
I'll wait.
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>>121998781
The only winners are the ones who had fun, the scores, the greentext, the rampant murder and explosions, all of it means nothing if you didn't have fun. By you I mean the majority.
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>>121999160
>By you I mean the majority.
I agreed with you until that point. If that were any true, Ragin Magus wouldn't still be in rotation.
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>>121999332
I put that in specifically because the antag is the servant of fun, not the receiver. They might have fun doing it or they might feel a great amount of stress to provide fun for others, I fall into the latter category so i keep that shit turned off.
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>>121999160
>By you I mean the majority.

Explain how 'powergaming' prevents the majority from having fun. What about Mr. Assistant wearing a space suit disrupts your ability to enjoy the game? Is it because you're too stupid to hack into EVA, so you just try to make it bannable for people to do that?

People who complain about 'powergamers' are the same type of people as women who complain about people more attractive than them. Grow the fuck up - people who play better than you will reap the benefits.
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>>121999552
I for one have fun through stress which I only feel when playing cultist.
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>>121999126
ferret race when
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>>121999641
Not that guy, but when our server was linked on reddit last year we got an influx of powergaymen that also would use acronyms (lol, lmao, etc) while playing, and that broke my Mr. Emmerson and wasn't fun.
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>>121999641
It doesn't, I simply stated if you didn't have fun, the game is pointless.
Since you can't please everyone at once the best you can do is maximise fun for all, some like extended, some like murderboning, the game caters for all one round or another.

If you can't enjoy any of it then it's simply not the game for you.

You're inferring complaint where there is only facts, some niggas like being powergaymen, some don't.
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>>121998324
It's powergaming.
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>>121998781
Powergaming, like graytide, is just a word. We protect things with meaning like metagaming by only enforcing what is really metagaming and don't joke around with those words.
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>>122000513
>If you can't enjoy any of it then it's simply not the game for you.
sorry to butt into your debate but according to what you said earlier your sentence has become
>If the majority can't enjoy any of it then it's simply not the game for you.
and I severely disagree with that.
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>>122000686
I think this only further highlights the fact I have absolutely no idea why I even play spess.
Probably why I've taken to observing more and more.
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>>122001000
SS13 is becoming a spectator sport. Oh nooo....
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>>122001207
ginger banned from spectator when
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>>121999641
>Is it because you're too stupid to hack into EVA
holy fuck how do you immediately jump into these kind of conclusions? how the fuck do you project this hard?
your immediate reasoning for any negative reaction coming from someone else is that it's actually a flaw of THEM, somehow?
and no, hacking into EVA isn't hard
>you just try to make it bannable for people to do that?
it has never been bannable
>Grow the fuck up - people who play better than you will reap the benefits.
you know your whole post sounds like bait, but I'm still wasting my time replying to you because sadly enough, there are people that actually think like this.
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>>122001207
ESPORTS NOW
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>>122001301
There's no such thing as an observer ban.
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First game back in ss13 after a year out.

/Janitor'sNightmare/
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>>122001394
WELL, THERE SHOULD BE
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>lightly white knight a waifu while being well aware it's not gonna happen
Where'd it all go so wrong?
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>>122001443
We clean with pride.
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>>122001207
You joke but I'm not the only one who feels like this, something is missing and I don't think any of us even know what it is.
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>>122001757
I'm not joking. I as an admin and a coder should now better than anyone that the longer you play SS13, the more you distance yourself. The more you feel like watching the game unfold rather than having an active part in it.

As a coder I try to remedy to that by adding new content and fix old bugs, so people come play anyway instead of just watching.
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>>122001882
>I as an admin and a coder should now better than anyone that the longer you play SS13, the more you distance yourself.
Bit of a contradiction here
being an admin OR a coder cause you to distance yourself a lot from SS13, playing not so much
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>>122001662
We must clean space

It was great how everyone came together to clean the mess at the end
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>ss13 in 2015
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>>121999767
Absolute horse shit.
We've been far more powergamey in the past, if anything we've been significantly less powergamey even with the "influx of redditors"

Stop scraping the bottom of the scapegoat barrel.
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>>122002257
no, one experience with one aspect of one fucking server is not representative of the whole game you dumb shit
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>>122002030
It's an escalation.
First I was just a player, completely immersed into the game.
Then I became a coder, and I learned about the game's "backstage". The game loses a bit of his magic when you understand how everything works.
Then I became an admin, and I not only could see what every player was doing at all times, what all their variables were, who were antags and where was the nuke disc hidden, I could listen at the same time to what everyone said, both in normal chat, LOOC, prayers, ahelps, centcom faxes/messages, ghostchat, and of course admin chatter, and admin logs.

Because of that I cannot join the game mid-round anymore. My only way to enjoy a round of SS13 like I used to is to join the server before roundstart and de-admin before it begins.

And even then, I know so much about SS13 code now that at times I'll powergame without realizing so. Because I know that "if X, then Y is highly possible".

On top of that, dying used to be a big deal to me back then. Now I can just re-admin myself post death and keep having fun by attending to prayers, triggering events, messing with the chaplain and whatnot.
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>>122002479
I wonder of that's how God feels about this Earth
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>ss13 2k15
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>>121999552
>servant of fun not the receiver

Had a good laugh.
Go play a different game.
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>>122002479
>The game loses a bit of his magic when you understand how everything works.
This is how I feel about life, not to say I know everything but I've seen some shit I'd rather have not known.
I envy the ignorant at times, I can't even use a fucking machine without daydreaming about how it's innards probably work, same reason I don't like magic, I know it's just a trick which has already ruined it, learning the actual trick is just icing on the cake.

It's no wonder I'm already coding shit for spess. I don't feel I belong in the general populace, that applies to most things. It's strange because it's not so much a powertrip as simply being outside the box a little, it's nice, I don't need the power I just want to be outside the game looking in, helping it grow as if it were a plant.

Fuck being an admin though, do not want. Will not get, probably.
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>>122002864
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>>122002864
I enjoy life because I know that there's billions of people who still haven't learned life's tricks and I can use the tricks I know to make them believe in magic, if only for a short time.
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>>122002354
>reading that far into my post.
Seems like you're just looking to argue.
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>>122003023
Then my issue is being a jaded fuck before my time.
But still, the plant needs watering and these nice folks want to spess so I will oblige, time to bugfix.
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>>122002257
You insult grorious coderbase team? O you betta BERIEVE das a bannu.
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>>122002257
I still like that Goof calls the guy a faggot after telling him he's banned for calling someone a tranny
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>>121997535
Captain being able to be culted when
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>>122003741
You know you can deimplant him with surgery right?
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>>122003805
>implying cult members would do that.
Just kill him fellas! :^)
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>>122003859
I was culted as a captain a lot and i always try to cult the heads unless theyre cults sacrifice objective
Its a lot easier since you can build operation tables noe
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Milanesas when?
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>>122004051
>>122003859
Culting a captain is basically invaluable. Same as the HoP used to be before the HoP got an implant.

He can run a one man all access shop for the whole cult, he can waste securities time investigating false leads, and he can feed the crew disinfo.
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>>121997493
>It's been so long, that everyone who played when I was an admin is gone

Not even close.

>So ask yourself, was my behavior then different from how it is now?

Power hungry retard who shitposts in the thread and pretends to be other people so he can get his ideals across and plays this game like it's a politics simulator? Nope, you haven't changed one bit.

You aren't a player with perspective, you're just a fucking loony.
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>>122004786
>>121997493
This assumes admins don't play which is not the case.

I play as much as I observe/admin.
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how 2 be gud clown?
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>>121997483
you could just do what I do and carry on with your job like nothing happened
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>>122005226
Did you quote the wrong posts or something?
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>>122005331
if you need to ask you're not ready to be the clown
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>>122005331
Be funny
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>>122005356
Every time I tried doing this somehow I was still found out that I'm a cultist and dragged into hell, and then probably either died or got reculted.
I'd just end the round for myself quickly, and piss other cultists off because I've had a book on me or some shit.
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>>122005440
Not to worry anon, I've got something sitting in my factory that will let everyone be the clown, whether they want to honk or not.
Reminder that clowns are not born, they are made.
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>>122005430
he is suffering from major sleep deprivation cut him some slack
>>122005563
>Reminder that clowns are not born, they are made.
absolutely wrong
you have to be born with the funny bone to be a real clown
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>>122005430
n-no. The conversation touched on admins and coders not being in touch and being jaded, distant shadowy figures that prey on the innocent players with perspective. I don't think that's true at all since I see admins playing every time I admin, and play myself.

The entire thing assumes admins don't have perspective, which is fucky since we're the ones that observe everything and have a pretty good idea of how people are and how the game is played.
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>>122005519
I don't know man, the last time I got culted I was a chef and just went on making food for the station and nobody said a thing. I actually got off the station in the shuttle. Some of the retard cult leaders ate some herb salad right in the middle of a medbay shitstorm and died, but that's not my problem.

I'm sorry cultists, if I would have known you didn't know herb salad was a poisonous drug I would have told you what to eat
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>>121907150
Is 2Hotdogs unbanned yet?
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>>122005761
We'll see if you're honking the same horn once you've been for a ride in the clowner anon.
When everyone is the clown, we will see what they are truly made of, honk.
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>>122005894
..What?

None of those posts mentioned that. I think you quoted the wrong ones m8
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>>122001207
There have been spectators for years, a lot of players just like watching, even non-admins.
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>>122006210
I gave you the answer at >>122005761
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>>122005906
And I do the same thing for rev, I guess some people might feel like it's a form of griefing but I just look at it as performing support jobs for the cult or the tide instead of nanotrasen.
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>>122005906
You shared your word right? Please tell me you shared your word. Did you tell the cult you were just going to cook and do nothing? Because telling them that is better than just leave them to wonder where the useless 4th guy could have gone. It would also let them know that the kitchen cold room is a safe zone.
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>be homeless
>want to spectate spessmsans
>go to local mall for free wifi
>loads videos ok
>try to connect to server
>30 minutes in, 15 out of 62 megabytes of data downloaded

RIP me
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>>122007168
I didn't say shit senpai. If I started as cultist and just wanted to make assburgers all game I would have adminhelped, but I was converted.
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>>122007609
Oh ok. I thought you were roundstart cultist. It's alright then.
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>>122007595
Seek help.
I'm not being rhetorical.
Go get help.
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>>122007815
im staying at a shelter currently, and ive applied all i can for jobs. Its veterans day so everything govt. is closed.

Nothing to do but wait all day
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A while ago someone mentioned that staff of animation-made mimics were pretty hard to deal with since it's hard to pinpoint when they die, or that ZAS moving items can make you mistake them for mimics.

So I did that.

note that this only affects mimics created via staff of change.
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>>122008220
of course I meant, mimics created via staff of animation.
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>>122008220
Really Good
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>>122008220
hey can you do something for skeletons too? it's hard to tell when those fuckers are dead. just turning them 90 degrees like a dead player is fine.
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>>122007930
where do you live man?
maybe i can help a fellow spessman out
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>>122008371
west coast of florida
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>>122008357
They do have a dead (turned by 90 degrees) sprite already actually. Whoever made them forgot to precise it in the code. I'll fix that.
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>>122008559
hooray
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>>122007595
>>122007930

dude what the fuck

i think you got more pressing concerns than not being able to spectate a round of ss13
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>>122008797
well i got food and can sleep in the shelter at night, so its whatever

still trying to find a job
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>>122008797
when your life is nothing but stress, sometimes a basic access to entertainment is the most important thing you can secure.
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>Want to make cool things for spess
>Absolutely do not want to put in any work to learn it
who me here?
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>>122008475
ill make some calls to see if i can get you a job/place
it would have been a lot easier if you were here but there is still hope since i know a few people in florida
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>>122008910
your life is nothing but stress because you piss it all away on basic entertainment. so you tell us your life story and think about killing yourself because it's easier than confronting your bullshit.

your video game time is done.
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>>122008220
You're aware of that package stuck on your hud right? Is that related?
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>>122008972
>ill make some calls to see if i can get you a job/place
>it would have been a lot easier if you were here but there is still hope since i know a few people in florida
nigger he said he lived on the west coast of florida there are 7-8 million people there across 719km
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>>122009002
he's not me tho
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>>122009002
I'm not that guy, but I've been in shitty situations (not quite that dire) and it's a lot easier to affect some positive changes in your life if you can create some comfort.
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>>122009102
>>122009114
message dont change
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>>122009097
well he is homeless you piece of shit im sure he is willing to go to anywhere in west coast Florida to get a decent job and a place to stay
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>>122009020
I'm pretty sure it's an UI bug due to me using Antag Madness to dress up as a wizard. It's not related at all.
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>>122009197
That's easy to say unless you've been in those shoes.
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>>122009578
When random anons on 4chan call you out on your shit its time to reevaluate whats what.
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>>122009759
Considering you can regularly get people telling you to kill yourself for liking a certain video game here, I wouldn't say it's a good benchmark for much of anything.
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>>122009920
>liking videogames

literally kill yourself
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I've accidentally turned what was meant to be a gimmicky awaymission into softcore porn.
Emphasis on the accidentally.
Perhaps shelf it incase vore needs more wankfodder and I need a bargaining chip.
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>>122010356
You know you want to use it on /vg/.
I'll lobby your interests and shill your mission all it takes.
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>>122008915
Post ideas, I kinda know code and kinda know sprite.
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>>122010356
How do you accidentally create vore porn
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>>122007595
That sucks.
I would focus on getting work and getting back on your feet. Video games can wait. If you're bored just wander around wherever you're at and explore. Go places you wouldn't. Helps kill the time.

If you're a lazy asshole like me I'd recommend learning a trade when you can get the money together. A lot of union jobs are wide open now because all the old crotchety boomer fucks are dying off and most twenty somethings these days think they're too good for it. Good money, benefits, and plenty of time off.
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>>122010481
fish tanks that the chef or botany can use to grow (edible?) fish for sushi and stuff.
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>>122003660
Social justice is blindb
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>>122010487
got a year and a half of welding training under my belt, but im not certified, and live in backwater florida (port charlotte)

no welding around here for miles.
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>>122011153
Antag chef growing space carp when. Deus vult.
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>>122011334
of course it would have its own bullshit mutagen applications, like space carp just as you said.
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>>122011334
>take clonex
>inject into animal meat
>makes another animal meat
>has a 5% chance of cloning the mob and 1% of becoming a eldric horror when
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>>121963529
>tfw no anomalies

STALKER away mission. Entire area emits radiation, so you need to bring the anomaly/excavation/rad/CE suit or tons of arithrazine.

There area is an open area of grass or a broken down warehouse type setup, and low lighting. Some zombie and russian mobs, and a few bags of bolts at the entrance. The entire area is an invisible labyrinth, where the "walls" make a small sized explosion if you walk on it.

Throw the bolts to find the walls to see the explosions and navigate the maze to get at a cache of goodies next to a husked guy and a large artifact.

The cache should have some of the rarer guns in it with a few bottles of vodka.
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>>122011240
Damn. Then I'd save up for some wheels, get your certs if you can and head for greener pastures. No point in sticking around down there.
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>>122011240
Guess you should start walking. Don't worry man, we spessmen are rooting for you. There'll be a spot for you in engineering when you get back on your feet.
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>>122012159
i play engineering a lot, but go figure with my choice of trade
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>>122011891
I like it but I'm not a bad enough dude to make it, not yet.
I think due to several restaints it might have to be an underground facility, could reskin the gateway to look like an anomaly easy enough with a reskinned ladder next to it to lead underground.

I can visualise it but to even attempt it would be an insult to it.
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>>122012290
I know, Saronsen. I know.
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>>122012401
stop stalking me
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>>121963529
I wanna do stalker stuff for spess
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>>122011240
Scout out Texas. Place is starting to boom with jobs of all kind and at worst you could join a metal works, Lockheed, a construction group etc. Housing is fairly affordable and if you're confident its only about a day and a half drive - two day drive for you.
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Is Probe the greatest player AND admin of all time?
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>>122013084
probe go home
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obviously the only way to be robust is to practice, but how do i practice? security is boring as fuck, is it okay to be shitcurity and toss the botanist in the brig for growing weed if nothing else is going on?
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>>122013084
He's definitely my favorite admin, but I might be biased because I liked him even before he became an admin.
I wish he still staticnamed, though.
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>>122013209
rage cage, bring not a gun but a slipper.
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>>122013209
Just build a rage cage, or even challenge people to matches in the boxing ring.
Roll assistant and greytide your ass off.
Move up to clown when you feel like you're robust enough to forgo guns.

I like playing Security, but it is by no means good training for robustness, because if you're robust you wouldn't need training, and if you're unrobust as Security then you're dead as soon as you mess up.

>is it okay to be shitcurity and toss the botanist in the brig for growing weed if nothing else is going on?
Space drugs aren't illegal under Space Law. You might not get banned for it, but people will hate you for being shitcurity. Myself included.
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>>122013221
>I wish he still staticnamed, though.

So you can give him meta benefits? Kill yourself.
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>>122013209
You can RP that last bit out, but if you try and seriously brig someone for a fuck it all reason like that, then you're going to be demoted pretty fast. Either by a head, or by an assistant who is sick of your shit.
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>>122013209
>>122013298
>>122013453

Seriously, this. Build a fucking rage cage, we rarely ever have them anymore and that's sad. A year or two ago they were built almost every round and was quality entertainment during crew downtime. Plus you learn to be robust
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>>122013209

Serious answer: just grief all the time and ban evade. This is how all of the oldest players got robust. The game used to be a wild wild west of toolboxers single-handedly braining all of secuirty to death and nothing happening because it was IC.

Play a server with high movement speed (read: not /tg/), hunt people with melee weapons, evade when banned. Evading is not hard contrary to what idiots will have you believe.
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>>122013453
I thought space law says that botanists and chemists have the right to have drugs like miners and scientists can have bombs.
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>>121931701
I literally got a note over "fuggin shitcurriidee :----DDD"
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>>122014041
>raising the tickrate on hyperzine
GOTTA GO FAST
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>>122015942
>replying to a post from over 20 hours ago
bruh
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>>122015818
yeah but if you see one of those fucking hippies smoking a joint they are valid imo
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>>121931701
I've actually seen someone get banned for g: absorbing captain in dorms fake ic in OOC. That said, I've accidentally put important shit in OOC too because I was typing too fast and instinctively said OOC instead of say. Nothing came of it. We're at the whims of our overlords, apparently.
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>>122012390
Make the artifact the wish granter and I'll be okay with whatever you do.
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>>122015818
It actually doesn't say anything about possession of drugs.
The only place it mentions drugs at all is under "Forcefully or stealthily drugging crewmembers without their consent."

Possession of mindbreaker/space drugs/etc is straight-up not a crime, for anyone.
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>>122016313
If you're intentionally being a fucking faggot, you get a ban
If you accidently be a faggot, accidents happen, its cool. Don't make a habit of it.

It's really that simple
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>>122016096
>Implying that guy isn't in the thread right now.
Do you even know this community, anon?
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>>122016450
how the fuck does mindbreaker not fall under possession of contraband?
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>>122017117
I suppose it could, based on your interpretation.
However the "Possession of contraband" clause specifically mentioned "Owning potentially sensible equipment" and I don't personally believe reagents fall under the term "equipment."
Why bother arresting for it anyway? It's no skin off your nose if they're taking the drugs themselves, and if they're dosing other people, you can just arrest them for forcefully drugging others.
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>>122017117
define contraband
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>>122017463
contraband: 1. n. mindbreaker toxin
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>>122017534
wow I got told
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>>122017450
what the fuck could anyone do with mindbreaker other than drug others?

and yeah, i know it's a reagent, but it would never have to leave chem if it's used as a reagent. hence contraband.
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>>122017680
They could take it themselves.

Also, "reagent" is the game term for anything that goes into containers. Water, blood, flour, etc.
Mindbreaker doesn't actually have any chemical use, it doesn't mix with anything.
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I just want to thank baldman for not letting goofball anywhere near our code

jesus fucking christ he can't do anything right
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>>122019779
Oh but he has been in our code.
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>>122020168
As someone with only very, very limited coding skills and knowledge, is there supposed to be something wrong here?
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>>122007595
are you me?
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>>122021335
All of it. It's almost the worst possible code that technically still works... with the last part not being particularly reassuring or excusable.
It isn't just bad, it's bizarre. I can't imagine the train of thought that someone must have gone through to code that, besides blind trial and error until they found something that worked.
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>>122022153
I didn't stress this last part enough. There isn't anything like this anywhere in the code. NOBODY has even come close to matching Goof's code.
I was taken aback when I found it. He could've just ctrl+f'd for any other text input and ended up with something he could copypaste with no problems. To create something like this is mental gymnastics, I'm still not convinced he didn't do it on purpose.
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>>122022153
>besides blind trial and error until they found something that worked.
That's roughly how I did math at high school.
no joke.
I got a scholarship for it.
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>be ordinary spaceman
>good thing happens and turns my life around
>life's negatives fade and everything becomes enjoyable
>take a long break
>rejoin one day because it's fun once more
>old fears and forgotten negative traits creep in
>it's almost the same as before
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>>122022520
>negative traits
you played a round of spess and started getting angry again?

play clown.
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>>122022795
It's not anger. It's detachment. I rarely play and mostly observe nowadays.
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>>122021335
Here you go. Here's another one of Goofball's little gems.
This code causes explosions. "ex_severe" is the explosion's dev radius.
See if you can find what's wrong here.
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>decide for boredom reasons to see if there are any interesting YT ss13 videos
>all seem to be made by 12 year olds
fuck
maybe Im too old for this shit
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>>122023516
Nah there's some creep in his mid-thirties who's famous for doing ss13/dorf fort
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How old is Nexi-sama?
I feel like he is not as old as I think he is.
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>>122023048
i can't find anything :C
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>want to ask Angelite to teach me engineering
>too much of an autistic, anxious fuck to go anywhere near
>her

i'll never learn how to engineer at this rate
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AUTOMATIC ANNOUNCEMENT: [vg-status] A round of cult has ended - 22 survivors, 15 ghosts.
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>>122023048
If it's greater than 3, it's set to 3, that all seems to make sense?
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Sorry for the hard time security, but somebody's gotta keep you in business
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>>122023867
Don't bother, they're terrible
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And the highlight from this round was....
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>>122024000
honestly it's just an excuse to be near the only decent roleplayer the server has
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>>122023867
Learn from others then, such as Adam Ulysses or Salvatore Risso. Their players are autistic enough for you, and will no doubt screech REEEE if you fuck up.
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>>122023048
I'm not a coder but here's a wild guess: Bombcap is already defined in explosion() so limiting it here is absolutely pointless?
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>go to virology to get myself treated
>NARSIE HAS RISEN
>cure myself and hide in a locker
>someone walled the engineering pod with runes
>go back to medbay when all the cultists and constructs left
>only survivors are runtime and myself
well at least i got a cat out of this
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>>122023859
>>122023935
>>122024134
Since Goof is too cool to use min() like a normal person, he checks if ex_severe is over 3, and if so, it's set to 3.
He then copypasted the same check to cap ex_heavy and ex_light. However, he only changed the first line of each.
That means that if ex_light is higher than 14, then ex_SEVEREwill be set to 14, not ex_LIGHT.

Goof essentially tried to implement a bombcap and instead made it so that ANY bomb hits the bombcap.
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>>122024084
What about Yahir, Nevill, and Bob? The trifecta of autismos
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>>122024195
Oh shit how did I miss that
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>>122024270
You mean the trifecta of faggots who won't stop attentionwhoring in thread?
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>>122024195
>Goof essentially tried to implement a bombcap and instead made it so that ANY bomb hits the bombcap.
Silly of me: instead made it so that ANY bomb goes several times past the bombcap he tried to implement in the first place.
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okay so if i don't know what i'm doing and just sign on as a station engineer and say "can someone teach me how to engine" how long will it take for someone to weld me in a locker and space me?
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>>122022520
Man up.
I swear to god all this cattle hormone and trace estrogen is turning everyone into moody, neurotic faggots. Fifty bucks says you're gonna go to the doctor for "fibromyalgia" in a couple years too.
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>>122024318
Please, the only one that attentionwhores is Bob. Yahir's too autistic for it and Nevill legit wants to take his own life.
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>>122024270
But Yahir just sits around and babbles about nothing, Bob is a twat to me, and I've no inclination to talk to Nevill.

Plus, I'm already part of Yahir and Bob's metacirclejerk.
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That was the first time I was an active cult member since I started playing the damn game and I'm glad I recorded it. Harvester gameplay is freaking rad as fuck! That round was challenging on a morale level though.

>>122024084
Stop responding to posts like this, and stop posting the post you posted. Just fucking do it already. I'm not going to bite your head off Unless I'm a cultist. Even so, >>122024123 is right. I'm no where NEAR the god of engineering.
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I think that someone just whiteknighted me in game.
It feels nice but kind of creepy.
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>>122024427
Did y'all have no words or what in eng?
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Anal borers when?
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>>122024648
When you kill yourself
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>>122024195
facepalmed. it's pretty damn obvious now that you explained it.
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>>122024302
We all have our goof moments. What's important is that you don't goof ALL the time.
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>>122024084
AH HA
AHAHAHA
[the rest was considered spam]
Is about all I have to say.
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>>122022153
..But if it works, then what's the problem?

Isn't coding really just a million different ways to do the same thing?
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>>122024270
None of them can roleplay worth a damn. Bob is a greytider, Yahir does nothing except build autistic mancaves or sit in the bar staring at a wall, and Nevill just sucks in all aspects of the game, and apparently his life since he told the steam group he was going to kill himself and slit his wrists or something.
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>>122025332
>But if it works, then what's the problem?

This way of thinking turned SS13 into the mess of code that we've been trying to optimize, revamp and refactor for years now.

>>122025332
Please, don't try to code until you change that way of thinking.
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>>122024562
We had all the words. That was my first time playing cult as an active member so I made many mistakes and confused some of rune sequencing. I was fumbling with the tome most of the time. I almost shat myself when Isaac came in with the bartender screaming, "CONVERT NOW!" Honestly felt like aside from Isaac I was the only functional cult member, but I shouldn't be gaging this since I'm experienced and didn't see the full scope of the cult operation. Here's a webm of everyone's favorite grey shit, Zenny Hunt, running for his life.
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>>122025594
I'm not even a coder at all. I would never code for this mass of autists, you lot included.

I just don't understand how one line of code can be better than another if they both produce the same fucking results.

A + B = C and B + A = C, so what is the problem? They both lead to C
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>>122025521
>Nevill just sucks in all aspects of the gam
But he's hilarious to watch.
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>>122025332
Objectively speaking from the point of view of "it works or it doesn't work": It's a really inefficient solution that wastes a lot of processing time. Granted that it's a tiny tiny thing for a check that will only be used rarely, which is the only reason why it wasn't pruned out of the code, but imagine something this inefficient on a part of the code that's executed constantly (hint: this is why bombs lag to shit).

Besides that, there are a few problems with code that "just works". The first is legibility. That shit is borderline illegible. Anyone that has to work on your code will fucking hate you if you make your stuff like that.
The second is that this just spells out "I have no idea what I'm doing" which is what brands you as a goof in the first place. Someone who does blind trial and error for EVERYTHING without learning how to do things properly (goof) will produce... goofcode.
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>>122025840
>Someone who does blind trial and error for EVERYTHING without learning how to do things properly

You do realize we're coding on a fucking ancient engine with horrific documentation right? Where are you expecting to learn this without trial and error?
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>>122025968
>Where are you expecting to learn this without trial and error?
Looking at what other people did in the same repository would be a good start.
Better yet would be looking at the documentation, which can be accessed by pressing F1.
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>>122024270
More like the brofecta.
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>>122025521
Nevill might be sadder than me, and I'm pretty good at being sad. I want to give him a hug. You're an okay dude, Nevill
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>>122026151
fuck off bob/yahir/nevill
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>>122026151
Does Nevill hang out with Bob? I know that Yahir does but Yahir hangs out with literally anyone.
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>>122026221
I'm neither of those, i just like playing with all three.
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>>122025723
The results may work now, but the way he has it is unsafe and can cause lots of problems down the line. Right now, there's no type enforcement, the layout is atrocious, and he's using the default return variable as a temporary variable. It will not take very much to cause that section of code to implode.

It's like replacing your brake lines with cheap rubber hoses you got from the dollar store on discount.
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>>122025723
Well you could say that

new/obj/item(loc)
new/obj/item(loc)
new/obj/item(loc)
new/obj/item(loc)

produces the same fucking results as

for(var/i=0;i<4;i++)
_new/obj/item(loc)

But you can clearly see that one way is more sensible than the other.
Here's a clearer example:

add.Blend(track.basecolor,ICON_MULTIPLY)
flat.Blend(add,ICON_OVERLAY)

and

add.SwapColor("white",track.basecolor)
overlays += add

both turn a white sprite red, and add it to an object's overlays. They do the exact same fucking thing, except one consumes over twice as much CPU.
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>>122026261
yeah, mostly with yahir as the autismal glue to bind them together
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>>122026382
Damn, I thought that Nevill was cool.
Anyone who hangs out with Bob deserves to be hanged.
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>>122026309
How does code "rust" over time per se?
Like...it's code, it doesn't change, how can it get worse over time if its exactly the same thing today as it is tomorrow?
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>>122025723
>A + B = C and B + A = C, so what is the problem? They both lead to C
A + B = C is the code you want.
Goof's code is something like
>R = keep taking 1 out of H and adding 1 to F until H is 0, then make Z equal to L, then keep taking 1 out of Z and adding 1 to K until Z is 0, please check that the number that R stands for is a number thanks, where R = C, L is equal to B, and H is A
which of course gives you C.
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>>122026547
But you still get C, right?

I mean the implementation is harder to read for anyone else that wants to work on that in the future, but externally C is still C.
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>>122026492
Better engine features come out that replace older, less reliable systems. Newer techniques that optimize memory consumption/performance (like the qdel thing we added a while ago that replaces del). Fresh coders who point out that Doohl was completely fucking drunk when he coded telecomms. Etc.
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>>122026492
>Like...it's code, it doesn't change
This is what non-coders actually believe.

Long story short: An unoptimized piece of code might not cause lag by itself, but when combined with 20 other unoptimized pieces of code, you'll start reading people screaming "FEATURES" in OOC.

On top of that, Dream Maker keeps evolving as a language, new features come out that allow us to code more efficiently. like >>122026650 said
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>>122026646
You still get C after 6 times the hassle and it only took you 20 times longer, yes.
Unfortunately that's not very good compared to just A + B = C.
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>>122026646
>I mean the implementation is harder to read for anyone else that wants to work on that in the future
That's exactly why it's shit.
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>>122026464
but I dont hang out with bob, he usually stabs my fucking eyes out with a fork if I get near the madman
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>>122026782
Fair enough. I only argue that if the result works, it works. It's fucking shit for anyone else who wants to change or add or fix things or whatever about it, but to people who play the game, it just works
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>>122026782
Also this. This so much. A lot of the reluctance behind fixing Life() was/is because it's a goddamn nightmare of code.
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>>122026782
It's only shit in an open source environment like this, if you were getting paid cash money for this you'd be a fucking idiot if anyone besides you could interpret it, welcome to enterprise code.

This project however is not one of those times, unless you coun the pomfcoins.
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>>122026865
It's not even just the legibility, it's the fact that it's inefficient and eats up resources for nothing.
Think of it like the difference between 2 seconds ping-pong after a devcap bomb, and 30 seconds ping-ping. A single awful function can cause that. The only difference is that in this case, it's imperceptible because thankfully noone let Goof anywhere near explosion code.
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>>122027039
But yet they let Dylan put his greasy frenchie hands all over everything.

For shame.
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>>122027337
dylan can be a real bastard but he's not that much of one
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>>122027393
Name one good feature (not a bug fix) that dylan has added.
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>>122027337
I generally let Dylan's PRs stew until Clusterfack and/or Probe say it's g2g.
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>>122027337
Syntax-wise, I don't think Dylan's code is all that bad.
It's the balance changes that he tries to shoehorn into every PR that makes him a shitty contributor.
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>>122024390
halfway through the word "teach"
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I want a way to remove chems that a plant produces, rename a plant breed and change/remove product sprite types.

These are the only things missing for maximum autism genetic engineering.
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>>122027475
Don't take bugfixes for granted though, Anon.
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>>122027475
Would you count rad collector nerf if he went too far and pomf rolled back some of the nerf?

Because he WAS right. And he DID get us off the "singlo every round by default".

I will admit that. Dylans like my period. Every month I argue with him for a week. But he does spend the other 4 weeks fixan bugs or implementing non balance things. The new wooden blockades are very nice.

Except for some fucking reason because it's dylan, harm intent deconstructs them and help intent bashes them to bits. Every other object in the game works the opposite way.
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>26 issues to go.
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>>122027816
>my period

PROBE CONFIRMED FOR QT ANIMU GRILL
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>>122027816
>Every month I argue with him for a week. But he does spend the other 4 weeks
I want 5 week months maaaan.
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>>122027636
>rename a plant breed
Not sure how do you mean, you mean renaming the whole plant breed so all fruits coming out of this plant are called "banana"? That's crazy
>change/remove product sprite types
You mean making your apples look like oranges or something?
>remove chems that a plant produces
How do you propose that would work? I'm listening.
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>>122027816
>Dylans like my period.
quotes to live by
>>
>But if it works, then what's the problem?
:^)
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>>122028153
>Not sure how do you mean, you mean renaming the whole plant breed so all fruits coming out of this plant are called "banana"? That's crazy
Yes that's exactly what I mean, I hate how every plant is called "strange plant #545". Maybe random name generator instead of renaming.

>You mean making your apples look like oranges or something?
Yep, I would use it so when I splice 5 different plants together I don't get a rainbow of different products but just 1 sprite type.
>remove chems that a plant produces
A chemical/item applied to a tray, it has a chance to remove x types of reagents and will notify that it in fact worked. "the plant sizzles" or whatever.

This would mean you'd still have to wait for products to check what changed so it wouldn't be easy.
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>>122027816
>my period

CONFIRMED FOR QT GIRL
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>>122028740
Pretty sure he just meant "my personal equivalent to a period"
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>>122027816
"Kevin" is a pretty weird name for someone who has their period every 5 weeks.
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>>122027925
I told you we'd get there.

>>122027475
1. Mining vend after the more controversial things got pulled from it. He was right. It should have limited inventory and should not be a snowflake machine.
2. Rad collectors.
3. Meteors (recent tweaks, not the heinous shit last December god willing no one lives through those rounds again)
4. New perma on Box
5. That sweet ass purple sprite for when the particle accelerator goes up to 3
6. The different light colors of light bulbs versus light tubes. Light bulbs have a warm orange glow and tubes have a whitish one.
7. Being able to put lighters inside cigarette packs Being able to scoop up eggs with an egg carton and other likewise things, a huge QoL I asked for

A lot more that I'm not going back any further through his PR history, glancing over hundreds of bugfixes, to find.

Dylan is seriously a pain in my ass when he rebalances things without asking anyone what they thought about it. He annoys me when he makes non atomic PRs with bug fixes, new items, and balance changes all in one. But he also makes a ton of bug fixes and introduces cool things.

He just shoots himself in the foot with the things I mentioned previously.

>>122028970
Where did this come from I've never been Kevin, there are even screenshots with my name in it.
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>>122027816
That still didn't stop me from resurrecting Lord Singuloth.
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>>122029469
> 4. New perma on Box

Now incredibly easy to break out of. I love it.
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>>122028453
But he still gets his orange juice, right?
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>>122025698
WHAT

WHERE IS YOUR LAG
DOES EVERYONE PLAY LIKE THIS??
FUCK
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>>122030831
He specifically changed botany around. It's about the same difficulty to escape from for what I've seen. Yeah, you can get chilis right off the bat. But most people I put in perma die during their escape before I track them down.
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>>122030983
Doesn't look any different from when I play.

Where do you live?
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>>122031396
NZ
Just at a rough estimate, I probably get 1-2 frames per tile when running like that at roundstart
if it was as late in the round like that webm was, I would probably get one frame every 2-3 tiles moved.
I don't think I can give it up though.
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>>122032113
nigga...
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>>122032729
And realistically the actual internet route hits Aus, THEN China, THEN the US.
>>
for the last couple of days, botany seed vendors haven't been showing the type of seed and this is highly obnoxious, is this something on my end or what?
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>>122033069
I might be wrong but I am pretty sure we go NZ>aus>hawaii>cali
so it's not quote that bad.

still
elon musk satellite relays when
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Bad news boys, we aren't getting in the cup. Guys who run /4ccg/ decided not to expand the amount of open slots this time around.

Someone is probably to blame for this, but I don't know who to direct our anger towards. You know what, fuck you duny.

FUCK YOU DUNY
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>>122033610
did anyone really care
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>>122033826
no
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>>122033826
Yes, as evident by all the shit we did just to try and get in.

It's not really that big of a deal, but it would have been fun to see the Lusty Xenomorph Maid and Woody's Got Wood scoring goals, or the panic bunker deflecting shots.
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>>122033979
>all the shit we did just to try and get in.
>we did
>we

who?
when?
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>>122033979
>it would have been fun to meme publically
ew. no. go away shitter
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>>122033610
I blame Nevill
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>>122033610
seriously
I am okay with this
football is dumb
cricket is the only sport.
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>>122034170
..A couple of days ago?

The roster discussion? The page we made on the wiki? The logo discussion and all the ones people came up with?

Who knows though, it might not be over. Apparently the other waitlisted teams are annoyed, and even some of the /4ccg/ guys are annoyed at how the tournament is being held and how teams are being excluded despite the fact that they can be fit in easily. Maybe someone will cave in.

>>122034309
Is there a difference between memeing in a 4chan general and memeing in a 4chan board? What makes one private and one public? They're both equally as autistic. Who cares, as long as it's fun to watch.
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>>122033610
Good. Our logo was shit.
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>>122034463
No points for your opinions Celt
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>>122036171
You do realize that if another one was made it would have been switched, right?
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>>122036171
>logo
>mattering

fuck that son its all about the ROSTER.
ours seemed pretty good.
>>
Seems like I accidentally made kudzu "twitch" periodically while it's still growing.
Feature?
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>>121932796

Should depend on the plants stats - Rowan
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>>122039212
that's it advancing through stages innit
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>>122039364
There's 3 icons for the 3 growth stages, it's spasming between the icons for that growth stage while it grows.
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>>122039490
that's great
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>>122025521
Isn't he the guy who bombed the station with 20dev bombs?
>>
Can we please remove images and depictions related to Christmas? I think it's upsetting some of our atheists like Pickeled_heretic.
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>>122041391
There's been a million people who have done that over the years when the cap is removed.
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>>122041441
Yeah but comparing him to most people who have been playing as of late, he is more robust, and is one of the only ones who can make those bombs
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>>122041652
what...?

Nevill isn't robust at all. He's horribly unrobust. That's like saying Sarah Johnson is robust because he can do a lot of autismo atmos and xenoarch and toxins shit.

I'd also be willing to bet Sarah Johnson could probably one-up Nevill and make a way bigger bomb given the cap was removed.
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>>122041652
Fun fact, most if not all people who make max cap bombs could also hit 20dev if the cap was removed. They probably all hit it every time but its lowered to cap every time.

Making bombs that huge isn't really impressive anymore given the amount of documentation out there nowadays. In Pete's time there was no documentation.
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>Write a long article concering Bubba and Bob
>Post it
>Check back on my news late into the round
>Half the article had just dissapeared
>Got Valid'd by security before I could ammend it
>Got Valid'd by sec before I could get Bubba's story
I'm sorry Bob, I don't know what went wrong. The good bit was missing.
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>a new universe where the survivors of a supermatter cascade become the sole beings in it
>rinmaru, angelit and angel hawke using as breeding vats
yes please
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>>122042310
you called me an illegal immigrant


i laughed my ass off, play reporter more often, Rhyden. You're hilarious.
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>science team finds a supermatter crystal
>well, fine, it's not like cascades happen all the time, and the shuttle is on its way. Surely nothing can go wron-
>Your are blinded by a flash of brilliant white energy!
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>>122042482
>Rinmaru ever being capable of breeding
That hole's likely been burned closed.
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>TFW being Clown that round.

Fun!
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>>122042482
i don't like the idea of this world, I could never do that to my waifus
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rev up those meta grudges, just started a BRAND NEW ONE
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>3 hours round
>Xenoarch finds a large supermatter crystal on the asteroid and
>People are bored
>Ghostchat wants its cascade
>I decide to give the crew a chance to harvest its power
>Give the RD a box with a letter and a pinpointer tracking the crystal
>20 minutes later they are still gearing up for the asteroid
>When they find the crystal they fucking hide from it, like it's gonna bite them
>The shuttle is already almost there, fuck it I spawn a gravity well on top of it
>All the iron ores slamming into it weren't enough? Fair enough, let's slam this cascade manually
>pic related of people trying to get out of there before anyone else
>A diona and a roboticist barely manage to make it to the roid, the bluespace is starting to eat away at the outpost
>I open two doors to help them a bit
>They manage to reach the rift by themselves, barely
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>>122042482
I was just about to suggest trying my hand at combining my plasma cutter and portal gun, so that we could effectively 'cut' our way into a parallel universe, but then >bomb happened.
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>>122042639
Shut up faggot, just try to envision it.
>genes of angelite and angel are responsible for massive autism and competence at projects
>genes of rinmaru are responsible for shittery
It would be the perfect genepool for a second humanity.
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Why did all the crates I send end up in robotics? Does it just send all the crates to whichever destination is first if there's a bunch of crates in a stack?
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>>122042482
I think you should be used as a breeding vat.

Better yet, sit over there with your ass cheeks spread, lets play bowling at the end of the world. Which one of these chef tools should we use as the ball?
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make chef fun again fags
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>>122042639
you can't but I would.
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>>122042750
Ew, no. I want Rinmaru pure and untouched, all to myself.
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>>122042834
It was never fun in the first place.
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>>122042894
too late, bub, this nigger beat you to it. look at him and despair.
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>>122034467
You mean all the work Shiggy did for no real reason that a few other people participated in because he spammed the thread with it enough?

Why would we want this anyway? All we need is more attention and new idiots flocking to our server.
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>>122042773
Everything! Please!
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>>122042925
>donk pocket donk pocket donk pocket donk pocket donk pocket donk pocket donk pocket on a plate on a plate on a plate on a plate on a plate on a plate isn't fun
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>>122042993
is that sawbones
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Local Xenoarch ruins everything
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>>122042894
Go away Kinggrimlock

You know how I know it's you? No one else would want any of your fucking shit characters.
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>>122042993
Bob doesn't even have a penis, how could they fugg?
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>>122043071
it's clearly Lilah. Rin is in lesbians with Lilah.
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>>122042894
No.
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>>122042769
>using the delivery system
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>>122042482
>Only waifus are used to restart society on the metaclub beach because everyone else died
>Angelite, Rinmaru, Angel, Hime, and Hyun are forced to try to repopulate
>Hime ends up tied up and raped for the rest of his life
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>>122043006
>few other people

you what

there were dozens of replies to every post about the roster, there were a bunch of logos people made, even if most were 2 minute MS paint projects, hell even pomf was helping with the roster.

just because you didn't like it doesn't mean you speak for the entire general when you seem to be a minority.

in fact no one even bitched about not wanting it even once until today.
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>tfw escaping both bluespace, bustacore ZAS, and a nuke into another universe within half a second after finding out my bag of holding was preventing me from crossing over

By the way, Rin, I did finish that cleaning Borg off.
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>>122043094
I'm afraid >>122043160 is me. Try your luck next time, friend.
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>>122043070
Deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried deep fried kitchen knife-filled donut cake slice cake slice cake slice cake slice cake slice cake slice cake slice cake slice cake slice cake slice on a plate on a plate on a plate on a plate on a plate on a plate on a plate
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>>122043195
It's better than the MULE
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>>122043070
It was fun for about the first week it was ever implemented

Then the gimmick wore off and no one really cared anymore.
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>>122043223
my waifu is Ginger Beach, why isn't she on that list? Also where are Annie Rodgers, Alice Conrad, and everyone's favorite waifu Yahir Kepplinger
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>>122043287
this is the fate you get for being jerk to clowns for no good reason.
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>>122042769
Yes, that is PRECISELY what it does. Send your packages one at a time.
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>>122043417
Sure, Ginger, Annie, and Alice can join in on the gangrape, so can Catherine and Sue and the others.

Yahir doesn't even have genitalia though
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>>122043195
>not using the based as fuck mailing system

It's like you don't want to play as Space FedEx.
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>>122043483
oh wait, that's being presumptuous. That meanie wasn't the only one with a BoH. I take it back. Unless you are him. in which case you know it.
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>>122043523
>Catherine
SOILED
IT
And I want Yahir and Bob there to fulfill my NTR fetish with Rin and Annie
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>>122043483
Have you got the right guy?
I'm Tree Dick, I even helped lose cops who were on your trail.
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>>122042673
>Velard just blasts me and leaves me there because I took his toys away
>Can't play a black character anymore because, thanks to this fucking kid, everyone makes assumptions

But fuck me, right? I should just leave the department unstaffed and let assholes like him run wild.
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>>122043639
Okay sure why not, Yahir and Bob can both be there, neither of them have dicks though.

And Yahir x Annie isn't even close to a real thing, they're just coworkers
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Fuck your repopulation shit, I should have stayed behind with my mice. They love me for the right reasons.
>I will never be this happy in atmos again
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>>122043743
You're dealing with Mrcourier what did you expect
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>>122043743
Embrace it. Don't hate it.
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>>122043345
not when 30% of the time it doeesn't show up anywhere, 30% of the time it does show up like it's supposed to, and the other 30% of the time it all ends up at a different location.

it is completely insane, You do the exact same thing and get different results.
Then i stopped playing cargo.
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>>122024648
>you feel something slithering up the back of your leg... and UP YOUR ASS!
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>>122043805
>Wanting to die on a station with a bunch of mice as the universe falls apart
>Not wanting to rape Hime on a tropical beach
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>>122024648
When you fuck off to vore
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>>122043643
Yeah. It panned out alright.

>>122043628
Was meant for you.

But at least it was karma for him.
Still don't know why he was going out for my blood. Just figured he was bored, and wanted some murder to entertain him. And well, I was a clown, first target for releasing those stresses.
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Can somebody explain to me what this means?

How much nutriment at what potency? I don't get it.

>chems = list("frostoil" = list(3,5), "nutriment" = list(1,50))

https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/blob/Bleeding-Edge/code/modules/hydroponics/seed_datums.dm
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>>122043223
You're missing the point of the post. It was a genuine ending to a supermatter cascade with those three.
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>>122043861
Playing cargo is just like playing the assistant, you process one set of requests that all come in the first five minutes, then you autolathe yourself some tools, and go fuck around the station
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>>122044094
I assumed as much, but I wasn't there so I'm just shitposting for fun
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>>122043953
I'd rather die with entities that love me for me, not any superficial reason than live on after my family and friends got nuked, doing nothing but fuck other people in similar situations for the rest of enternity.
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>>122043919
Unf
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I MISS SUE
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>>122030846
Still trying to bug fix the octopus from drinking the orange juice
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>>122044217
>There are people on this server that'd rather die with animals that love them than rape a cute trap until the day you both die
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>>122044217
I baked you a pie, Angelite. But you weren't hiding in engineering when I went to find you, so I died. And you didn't get your pie.
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>>122042769
Yes exactly. You need to watch the mail room and send your crates in separate pulses.

By the way, if there's a load of garbage in the mail room when you send a package, guess what shows up at your target destination?

>>122043861
When I started playing on this server, I sat through eight months of cargo mailing not working. I still played Cargo. I liked Cargo, even though I had to deliver by hand. I asked people over and over to fix mail. Finally, I had to do it myself -- and I did.

It was broken again, recently. On github, consensus seems to be that it was a mapping issue. New subtypes are under development to prevent this kind of thing from happening again, but I can't really comment on their progress because it's not my PR and I'm not a maintainer.

Mail will be back soon I am sure, but really, you spessmen today are spoiled!

>>122043345
I'm working on a tweak to the MULE which should help improve destination selection at least. The biggest problem with MULEs -- more than anything else -- is that you can really only send one at a time to each destination. If you try to send two crates to one place, the MULEs will trap each other with their pathfinding, neither one wanting to move aside for the other.
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>>122043585
>tfw the destination tagger has an editable list for expansion efforts
>tfw I considered myself to have mastered cargo and did not know this
shamefur dispray
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>>122044217
what about your surviving friends?
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Cap here
Sorry wizzy man, you were trying to be cool
I am a dick
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>>122044883
REE
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>>122042673
captain here

what are you supposed to do, the crew didn't want a transfer

also was I shit
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>>122044883
Warden Bob here. I am so sorry, mental focus does not do what I thought it did.
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>Tfw you try to stop the ED from arresting the Wizard
>Everyone pushes past you and lynches him
Sorry Wizard, I failed you as an HoS
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>>122045012
hi bob its me sawbones
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>>122044836
(You)
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>people whine about wizards always going full murderbone
>wizards occasionally try a gimmick that involves not killing the crew
>crew immediately valids him and whines ooc about "muh friendly wizards"
>wizards go back to murderboning

what the fuck do you guys want?
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>>122044989
I hoped you'd bring the crystal to the station, make a party about it, try to use it in engineering, fail somehow and produce a supermatter cascade.
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>>122045214
It makes much more sense when you realize the people complaining about murderboning wizards and the people complaining about friendly wizards aren't usually the same people.
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>>122044512
I'm aware of that report that it's magically broken itself again even though I just fixed it myself.

I wasn't lying when I said I tested that fucker completely, one crate to every single possible destination, 100% arrival rate, not just arrived, to the right place no less.

So with that in mind, if it is actually broken again, I mad. I know I fixed that shit.

Upon learning of the broken status i did another test using the latest code at the time, worked perfectly.
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>>122045306
I don't understand.
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>>122045214
>people whine about wizards always going full murderbone
People always whine about any antag going full murderbone. Especially when they're among the victims. It's up to you whether you ignore them or not.
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>>122045117
Unless wizard summoned survivors there is absolutely no reason not to kill him asap so the round can be over with.

Otherwise you will be randomly interrupted and all the effort you put into your projects and setups before you even did anything with it, will have to be repeated next round.

Fuck wizard rounds, make it so rounds don't end and you'll see less valid hunting since I'll be able to autism it up.
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>>122045384
The server doesn't have a singular opinion, as it's not a singular entity. There's no flip-flopping of attitudes, as you implied, because no one's doing that. It's different groups, speaking up.
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>>122045214
wizards removed
I asked command if we can be friends with the wizzy, but they told me to kill them
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>>122044410
>Hime
>cute
Nah. Enjoyable, but he just doesn't pressurize the distro, know what I'm sayin'? Now, literally horny engineers (Jed Treeby)? That shit patches my breaches.

>>122044459
Funny story about pies. See pic. If you're talking about the cherry chocolate cake, The ripley that delivered it cut it to peaces so small with it's drill, that we accidentally inhaled the cake. We didn't have a knife, so we improvised.

>>122044814
I have a lot of friends that weren't on this shift and some who don't even play space that I wouldn't imagine living a life without. But I guess I'd get over it eventually.
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>>122042204

cuban pete was not the first or even thousandth person to make a dwarf bomb and it was extremely common knowledge how to do it
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>>122044072
>Minimum of 1 nutriment at any potency.
>1.4 (rounds to 1) nutriment at default potency (20)
>Potency = min value + (potency/second value)

So for example, if you can get potency up to 50, you can get 2 nutriment out of those ice peppers. Sleep tight pepper. By contrast, if you can get berries up to 50 potency, they will have 6 nutriment.

Man, it has been a while since I've looked through the grown code.
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>>122045306
>>122045214

tfw you have an idea for a wiz round but it would be considered "stealth antag" and I dont want to be bullied for playing for greentxt and draggin the round to extended length
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>>122045712
>>Potency = min value + (potency/second value)
Ugh, I mean nutriment (or any chemical amount)

But yeah, hope that helps.
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>>122045547
>cut it to peaces so small with it's drill, that we accidentally inhaled the cake
That's possible?
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>>122045547
>Hime
>Not cute
>>122045908
He's saying it was drilled until it was destroyed
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>>122045214
They want to get stunlocked with MM and cluwned.
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How would people feel about awaymissions designed to serve as IC tutorials for various departments higher end stuff?

I'm building a rust one loosely based on the broken rust map in the files, idea being it might get loaded up one day during highpop and some of the crew might want to learn how to build one of those niggers, bonus points if someone who actually knows how the fuck it works is among them, someday space itself will burn again.

Others include toxins, rage cage extreme sports (thunderdome lite), medschool etc etc
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>>122046492
If you wanted to make a tutorial map it would be better off as a test server thing rather than away missions which are controlled by adminbus
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>>122045547
I still have no clue how that pie managed to catch on fire.
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>>122044883
>apologizing for killing an antag

This place sure has changed since I left.
and pussy whipped
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>>122045712
Thanks, was really confused as to why it was a list. Now I get it.
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>>122045321
I gotta say, I have not played cargo in a few months, and I have not used the delivery system for slightly longer than that, so maybe it IS fixed now, I can't confirm or deny.

I will say, when I was playing QM, I had three rounds in a row, I still remember what happened.
Round 1
2 bloodbag crates for medbay, beekeeping crate and exotic seeds for hydroponics, everything ended up in hydroponics

Round 2
exotic seeds and beekeeping for hydroponics,
MIA never seen again.

Round 3
advanced bar keeping kit (or whatever it's called) for the bar, and exotic seeds and beekeeping for botany
it all ended up at the bar.


these were all orders in the first 10 minutes or so, so unless an antag was specifically messing with the pipes at round start, it makes absolutely no sense.
These rounds were consecutive rounds about 6-8 months ago
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>>122046572
this aint half bad
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>>122045695
Extremely common knowledge, yet only one person was remembered for it?

Doubtful
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>>122047428
It really isn't common at all and isn't documented anywhere but the code
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>>122047085
>these rounds were consecutive rounds about 6-8 months ago
That explains why your bar crates even arrived then, the issue I fixed was there was no bar destination, just 2 theatres. Oh sure you could just go behind the bar and fix it with the tagger but fuck that.
Mechanics was non existant entirely, it was actually labeled cargo bay.

In addition I added telescience just because I could.

Absolutely all of it could be fixed during the round if people wanted, they shouldn't really have to but it could be done.
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>There's already a pipe at that location

How do I fix this? This is frustrating. I see people stack pipes all of the time. How do they do it?
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>>122046586
Me either, but man did that round set up some quality bantz. I 100% enjoyed that round, and we didn't even do major damage control like we usually would!

>That moment when I slipped off the station with the crate of floor bots and ended up getting the crate stuck in space
>I knew you were remote viewing me and it made me laugh knowing that you were laughing too
It's the simple things.
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>>122047428

Cuban meme shilled himself until people started doing it for him. He was not remotely notable in his time except as an attention-starved angry manchild.

Image related is essentially how Cuban Pete became an SS13 meme.
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>>122048013
At the top of the RPD interface, you will see five horizontal pipes and five vertical pipes. Those indicate which stack level your pipe is on. Default is middle.

You can only have one pipe per stack level. Click a different one of the five to select your level.
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>>122047705
absolutely all of it could be avoided by simply never using cargo

outside of bloodbags, pizzas, beekeeping and exotic seeds, Nobody EVER uses cargo
playing cargo tech is basically greyshirting because you have absolutely nothing at all to do
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>>122048013
layers atmosian, layers. Direction is also important, one horizontal over vertical? aww yiss.
North facing and south facing? you bet your ass you can!
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>>122047085
>Advanced barkeeping crate
>Beekeeping crate
>6 months ago
There's no way this can be right
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>>122045547
Actually, I made another pie for you guys later, like, 5 minutes before the cascade.

Then I died during the cascade trying to hunt you down and give you that fucking pie.
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>>122048336
hmm, maybe I'm more fucked up than I thought the months and years are starting to blur together.
let me re-phrase
at some point this year, in the past.
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>>122048067
Yet not a single person can name another person who bombed as big and as much as he did during his time.
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concept: upgraded machine built with research only parts. clones any ghost who hovers over it, but uses a lot of power and takes as long as a regular cloner
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>>122048206
>Not ordering more metal/glass as roboticist/engineer
>Not ordering RUST or CORES CORES CORES as engineer
>Not ordering the cafe/brewer circuitboards as bartender
>Not ordering loyalty implants during rev/cult as sec
>Not ordering a fuckton of guns during wizard/blob as sec
>Not ordering virus crates as virologist
>Not ordering a medical crate as chemist (for the extra pill collector)
>Not ordering the advanced research crate as scientist
>Not ordering a cow or goat as chef

Plus there's a PR right now feature freeze for better Chef crates. We still need more crates, though.
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>>122048221
>>122048120

Oh.
Ohhh.

Can you use north-facing straight pipes to get over south-facing pipes?
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>>122048689
Concept: no.
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>>122048689
Autocloner is a xenoarch item tbqh my family

>>122048890
No, but you can stack two middle-layer pipes if one is north-south and the other is east-west.

You can also stack thermal plates multiple from opposite directions
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>>122048651

Oh, I can. That would be Lord_Doom who was the first guy to make a dwarf bomb and also popularized floor tile throwing as a tactic. Also was known for welding people into lockers and arranging the lockers into swastikas until the entire station populace resided inside a giant swastika of welded lockers.
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>>122048857
>Things that only happen once in a blue moon
I bet you could go 10 rounds without ordering anything outside of what I listed.
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>Finally get around playing spess
>Have to do other shit
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>>122049035
>until the entire station populace resided inside a giant swastika of welded lockers.
can't you just "resist" out of welded lockers?
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>>122049158
It's true that not a lot of crates get ordered, but that's mostly because their powergame-fu is weak or they're too jaded about Cargo response times. You can objectively make your own shift better as most jobs (narrow, narrow majority) by ordering at least one crate.

I can prove you wrong though, electrical maintenance crate gets ordered without fail every shift.
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>>122049308

This was like 2006 so no. You were just in there forever or until someone unwelded it.
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>>122049035

>lord_doom

http://wiki.ss13.co/User:Clarks#Lord_Doom_Clause
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Yeah alright, APC destroyed, mission accomplished.
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>>122049035
Now that's the guy we need to be slobbing the knob of.
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>>122043585
Reminder that cargo loves deep-fried pipes
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>>122049403
>electrical maintenance crate
BY cargo, FOR cargo
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Is Lord_Doom our guy, /ss13g/?
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>>122050209
I'm your guy /ss13g/
t. Jefferson
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>>122050209
fuck off
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>>122050434
Whoa there, that was uncalled for.
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>>122050126
Maybe it's because I staticname (I sincerely hope not), but I've never had trouble getting Cargo to give me my glubs when I'm a greyshirt. People are too afraid of human interaction in a social game.
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>>122048419
That's... unfortunate, man.

>>122049995
Damn Nexy, you really love that screenshot, huh?
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>>122050740
>staticname
honestly the best thing I ever did is remove static name

literally the ONLY difference is yahir treats all names he doesn't recognize like shit.
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>>122049995
>Nochta Iglav
Here's a grey RD that I haven't seen in a long time.
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>>122050391
Are you prepared to be our guy?
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>>122050646
not really
fuck off
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>>122050968
I just don't like the randomly generated names.

Also, there is a little bit of a nostalgia factor using a name I've used for almost all of my spessman career.
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>>122050803
Yes
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>>122050803
Do you have a screenshot of the time when pipe groaning was a thing and Celt and Niggly renamed all the pipes to things like "Freddie Mercury" and "Uncomfortable virgin grappling with the idea of having his first time be with a prostitute"?
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>>122051109
I don't need to prepare. I'm already your guy.
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>>122050968
Yahir treats everyone but his bumchute buddy like shit.
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>>122051272
I dunno, he hasn't ever treated me like shit, and I'm around him pretty often.
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What do you guys mean "Yahir treats you like shit"? Like, slips/disposals you for fun? Verbal harassment? He just ignores me, always. I don't think he has ever said something to me in probably a year. Also, why do you care what one grey thinks?
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>>122051398
Are you a medbay slut? It might be that.
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>>122051159
>Nexy likes really likes my screenshot
I'M GETTING A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP TONIGHT!

>>122051214
Got you, senpai.

>>122051272
I'm nuetral-positive with Yahir and we rarely interact in game.

>>122051454
Static name of the month, it'll pass.
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>>122051462
I'm medbay, but I'm not a medbay slut.
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>>122051114
This is getting out of hand.
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