/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

What counts as an unholy monster for Ludwig's bonus?

Can anyone run through Cainhurst with me?

Also ahhh

What the fuck is wrong with that cat? Is that a shop?

>>121856627
His mind was broken by eldritch truth

>>121856587

Sure. Password?

>>121856627
too much insight

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Which npc would you like to fucking kill?

>>121856716
1212bbg thanks

>>121856627
It probably just was covering its eyes with its second eyelid for some reason.
It's a clear milky thing.
There's also a filter on the image or something.

test

>>121856820
I killed every single NPC once the hunter's dream was on fire

>>121856830

I just realized I already went to NG+ on this character. I'll have to nab the letter real quick.

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>>121856434
>Kit of the Cosmos
>Not Kit of the Kosm
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>121856571
Anything in Cainhurst.

youtube.com/watch?v=4vV5CpIvZa8

youtube.com/watch?v=8SDNCjmDs2A

What the fuck man.

So, do we kill Mergo in the Nightmare, or not?

On one hand, he's clearly alive if you fight Yharnam after killing the Wet Nurse.

On the other, we get the message NIGHTMARE SLAIN after the Wet Nurse fight.

Does this imply that the Wet Nurse was generating the Nightmare, not Mergo, as everyone assumes? Or is this gameplay and story segregation

>>121856830

Just gotta rush through the witches. I'll be fast.

/bbg/ why did you lie and tell me that going for Watchdog's legs is easier than going for the head?

>>121858109

Kek you fell for the good ol go for the legs ruse.

>>121858109
the legs are just safer, not exactly easier. I hit everything on the head

>>121858109
You were probably being fucked with. You want to distribute damage to the legs over the first half of the fight because of the free staggers they give you.

>>121858270
Only advantage to legs from what I can tell is that if you're got 19.8%'s and BBP, it'd be faster than going for head.

I'm on an Arc build, and it takes a shitload of time to even get its front legs to collapse, meanwhile I have to constantly dodge all its attacks and whatnot. Compare to attacking the head where, basically, you don't have to dodge attacks at all, you just bait it to bite, jump attack, back away, repeat, guaranteed ez win.

WHOPPING 10 VITALITY

>>121858109
>>121858270
I think the head is way safer, here's a video of how I beat him really recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVJqDknrMyc

>>121858109
They're faster, not easier. Git gud

fucking logface. Back at lamp ringing 1212bbg, who is joining?

>>121858109
i went for the legs. you need to get lucky in that fight

>>121856830

Still there? I'm ringing.

>>121858664
We got him.

Fuck the pthumerian descendant and his magic boomerangs that go through walls he's such a faggot

>>121858664
Sorry he's dead. I'll be doing Upper Cathedral in a few minutes if you're up for it

Nightmare swirls and churns
We won't abandon the dream
Micolash haiku

been a couple of months since I last played, what boss is best for farming blunt gems?

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I've noticed something rather intersting/unsettling. I'm sure all of you know that the doll responds to certain gestures, but have you noticed that she only claps if you do hunters rally or, more disturbingly, "beg for life"?

>>121859719
undead giants :^)

>>121856820

Djura

>inb4 muh beasts are people!1!

Anyone up for helping me through Upper Cathedral? pw 1212bbg at lamp

>>121860985
What do you mean? It's not like Djura is browsing /bbg/ to defend his beasts.

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>>121856820
>send adella to the chapel
>get there
>she's not there
I know what you did you little fuck

>>121861175
2spooky4me

>>121861248
Has anyone noticed the blind man's resemblance to one of the statues in the Bloodstarved Beast's boss room?

>>121861346
pls tho

Well, it finally happened. On this, my 5th run-through of Chalice dungeons, I am finally struggling to kill Defiled Hotdog.

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>>121860985
>>121861246
He's in Old Yharnam trying to to intimidate hunters

>>121861246

No but his delusional followers will probably rush to his aid

>Djura did nothing wrong!
>Daily reminder that Djura is the only sane NPC
>Djura is love, Djura is life
>tfw no qt Djura husbando to cuddle and tell me stories about powder keg adventures

>>121861479
what a bully

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>>121861401
coming

>>121861493
get out of here Henryk

Can anyone help me out with logarius? Dudes fucking me sideways.

>>121861625
Thanks

>>121861768
git gud

>>121861768

Password?

>>121861847
nigs

>>121861479
That looks rather sexy, just like a hungry wolf ready to attack his prey.

>>121861678
RRRRAAAARRRRRGGHHHHH

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>>121861960
I want Djura to leave

>>121861960
>there are people on this board who find Djura attractive
degenerates who like old faceless men. Just like one of my hentais!

>>121861768
>>121861920
Please respond

>>121862445

Ringing.

>Logarius is easy as fuck during his first stage
>that sudden shift into overdrive where he
>just
>doesn't
>fucking
>stop

>>121862682
Just died I'll be there in a sec

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>tfw extracting yourself from a shit situation through raw, undiluted skill
R1 spam is a type of skill.

>>121862752
R1 spam is the best way to kill those things.

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If the doll was a co-op partner, which weapon(s) would she use to defend the hunter?

>>121863016
Some badass arcane bullshit

>>121861796
sorry about the delay, i ordered delivery

>>121863016
The power of her smelly farts

>>121862682
Thanks senpai

>>121863279
np, up for Ebri?

Anyone else up for Ebri too? PW is 1212bbg at her gate. Thanks!

>>121863374

No problem.

>that point in the fight where Logarius kept stuffing his sword into the ground

That was hilarious.

>>121863016
Rosmarinus. Just Rosmarinus, no melee weapons

>>121863474
be there in a sec
she might rekt me though

>>121863531
Yea, started sweating a bit when his drop attack left me at ~10 hp this guy always ducks my shit up no matter howany runs I do.

>>121863016
Probably some kind of transforming modified gardening tool.

>>121863639
We can do it, though I am gonna be terrible due to arc. I can distract her anyway

Huh my previous thread got full pretty fast.

>>121863850
tiny tonitrus will give her a run for her money
I'm arc too :^)

>>121863016

A powerkeg weapon
cause she's dynamite

>>121864060
Please teach me how I can have sex all the time

>>121863668

God, that was tense. I love fighting him.

>>121863983
I'll bring mine too.

>powderkegs make the Cannon
>powderkegs make the Saw Spear
>powderkegs make the pilebunker
>powderkegs make the pizza cutter
why are the powderkegs so based, /bbg/? They're got everything I need to RIP and TEAR

>>121864659
>drops her head
>time to hit her-
>immediately charges
Welp

>>121864659
>>121863983

Back at lamp...

>>121864673
Powderkegs did not make the saw spear, they made the rifle spear. And it's not a very good weapon.

>>121864989
by which i mean fog gate...

>>121865026
I meant to say rifle spear, my bad
>rifle spear isn't good
bite your tongue

Hang in there guys...

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>>121865310
I might, if I ever lose to it.

The headless bloodletting beast is such horse shit, how do I beat this guy?

Man, that flamesprayer makes her bug out something fierce.

Phew thanks guys

>>121866370
What are your stats, anyway?

>>121866370
np bb

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Which one of you was Lucius Fedora in the frontier wearing madman's set?

>>121866495

Me why?

>>121865890
What are you having trouble with?

>>121866590
He has an absurd amount of HP, and his slam hitbox is the worst in the entire series. I do great every time, and then I get unlucky and his slam one-shots me when I'm nowhere near him.

>>121866673

So you havent unlock his second form yet? He has two phases. Second is harder.

>>121866869
I have gotten his second phase, it doesn't seem much harder or different to me.

>>121866470
right now 32 vit, 9 end, 10 str, 9 ski, 7 bt and 35 arc

>>121866587
just checking.

I saw fedora and knew it was someone from here.

I was Gufari by the way.

>>121866673
You can i-frame the slam. Bait it and practice the timing until you get it down.

>>121867130
I find that locking on and dashing makes the slam way easier to dodge, but it makes the camera terrible.

>>121858109
>people actually die to monster hunter dog

Give a break /bbg/

>>121867386
this.

hotdog is e-z.

>>121867435
>>121867386

Fuck you. He is impossible.

>>121867501
Get good, you don't have to lock on in every boss you fight.

>>121867501
I was like you once. I was afraid of being one-shotted and played really defensively, but if you just rush that asshole and bop him on the head continuously, he will go down surprisingly easy

>>121867586
I don't see what the hubbub is about, it's one of the easiest bosses.

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>>121867501
literally just play it safe and swing at the face.

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Hi again Lucius. Also gg, can't believe I let you parry me.

Never forget that Benjie purposefully and diligently spreads around bad advice for Hotdog.

>>121816076
>>121816076
Fuck off Benjie you attentionwhore fucking retard. Your advice is legitimately inferior to the community consensus on Watchdog. Slapping his nose is ALWAYS be the better method in any situation. Dealing with his legs is like asking for trouble. Stop fucking posting that image. Get a fucking life outside this Japanese imageboard. Do you really have nothing better to do? I saw you trying to taunt Luci with your nonsense. Do you get off on shitposting and inciting shitposters? You actually think a method that involves dodging attacks is easier/better than a method that keeps you safe 100% of the time? Go fucking hang yourself you fat Cajun fuck.

inb4 you try and deflect by saying you were being a douchenozzle on purpose as if that makes it okay or try to deny the definition of attentionwhoring/shitposting.

>>121858109
You probably bought into Benjie's retarded infographic and got tricked.

>>121867963
If you are stupid enough to need advice on one of the easiest bosses then you probably deserve what you get. seriously not trying to be a dick, I'm just sayin'.

>>121867963
>consensus
>better method in any situation
lmao desu (desu)

>>121867963
We get it, you love Benjie

>>121868079
baka fml desu senpai ffs just sayin'

>>121867963
>Dealing with his legs is like asking for trouble.
Maybe if you are underpowered but making frontal attacks not only to watchdog but to any beast-like boss in a souls games is bad advice because if your timing is not perfect he can kill you by spamming his attacks.

Always go for the legs.

>>121868079
>defiled hotdog
>one of the easiest bosses
He isn't that hard, but people like you are the worst cancer of this fanbase. You call every boss, no matter what it is, the easiest boss because you have the biggest dick in the world and you're the raddest dude on 4chans vee gee

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>>121868342
what emotion are you trying to convey

>>121868437
Hate that shit.
>this boss was hard
>omg noob that boss was easy, now THIS boss is hard
>lmao idiot that boss was easy, THIS boss is harder

Fucking kill yourselves, anyone who does this shit, you're fucking cancer.

>>121868437
It is one of the easiest bosses in the game. You bop him on the nose and dodge to the side, it's that simple.

>>121868437
I don't call every boss easy, don't project shit on me. honestly the boss I have the most trouble with is Paarl/Loran Darkbeast but lots of people who fight him says he is one of the easiest.

>>121868645
How about you go fuck yourself. The Defiled Watchdog has an abnormally large HP pool, poor hitboxes, and kills you in one hit with nearly every attack. Keep in mind I beat him after 2 tries, but you are a faggot.

>>121868437
You know, I can see why you think Benjie is so bad when you're mistaking two different people for him.

Of course, I'd expect nothing else from someone who thinks they can 'read' people so well. :^)

>>121868632

Thats the whole Dark Souls community.

>>121867963
/bbg/ is getting a little hectic now that lucy's around more often

maybe you should take break, loranon

>>121868792
>kills you in one hit with nearly every attack.
this is just plum not true unless you have like 25 VIT.

>>121868792
Then dodge his attacks? I'm just saying it's not difficult, and you're telling me to fuck myself. If we were talking about a challenging boss I'd understand, but it's really not that hard, anon.

>>121868792
>poor hitboxes

People who can't dodge say this. His hitboxes are just fine

>>121867386
idk man

On my first playthrough, I beat him on my 3rd try. On the two or three runthroughs of chalices I did after that, I think I maybe died a total of one or two times. But this latest playthrough, I've died like ten times. Got close a couple times, but always manage to get hit a couple times and die. I've even been hit by his charge attack several times today.

All I've got is that single 16.5% bolt gem from Yarrharr Ghoul. My damage is shit and I'm fresh outta vials.

>>121868998
You aren't saying he's not difficult, you're saying he's one of the easiest bosses in the game, which is objectively not true.

>>121869252
Difficulty is a subjective opinion based on each individual person's playstyle, you moron.

>>121869104
His charge hitbox is bullshit, only rivaled by Ebrietas, no about of denial and elitist attitude can change that.

>>121865401

Maybe you and I should settle it right here on the ring if you think your so tough

What's ya name leatherhead?

>>121869104
His bites have kinda weird hitboxes. The path his head travels through stays active for the entire animation. E.G., if he bites from left to right, even when he's near the end of his animation and his head is all the way to his right, you'll still take damage if your i-frames end while you're at his left side. On top of that, it seems like the entire front part of his body has a hitbox during that attack.

Not terrible, just a little odd. Harder to dodge than it looks like it should be, but with good positioning or timing you can get through it NP. Nothing like the Gutter Dogs of DkS2.

>>121869252
actually that wasn't him, that was me. and is it is objectively true. you literally whack him on the fucking nose and then dodge the hit that is guaranteed to come right after, then hit him again. Maybe try not going in R1 mashing every boss?

>>121869104
oh god are you one of those faggots that defended DaS2's bust ass hitboxes?

hotdog's charge is broke af.

>>121869480
>His charge hitbox is bullshit

No, it's not. No elitism here. I've fought it across like six characters and spent many, many hours brickwalling against it. I've never had literally any hitbox issues with the charge or any of its attacks. Stop blaming the game

>>121869480
???

His entire body turns into a hitbox, and he torpedoes forward, exactly what you'd expect from a charge attack. Nothing unusual about the hitbox in the slightest. And unlike Ebri charge, you don't need any particular positioning/timing to dodge it, you just need to side step either right before he charges, or while he's mid-charge.

>>121869571
I beat him very quickly, but to imply that he is easier than the witches of hemwick, the one reborn, father gascoigne, the keeper of the old lords, the celestial emissary, the pthumerian elder, the cleric beast, or micolash, you are delusional.

>>121869541
>sticking around after a hit when he bites.

HE IS DOES A BITE 80% OF THE FUCKING TIME AFTER EACH INDIVIDUAL NOSE BOP. HOW DO YOU GET HIT BY THAT?

honestly i had trouble with old defjam hotdog for a long time but now he's one of my favorite bosses to fight

>>121869517
TSMP1

You want to fight my shitty quality claw build, or my brand new arcane build? I deleted the others to make room for DLC builds.

>>121869541
Never had that issue, m8. And I'm one of the guys that goes for its legs, which makes dodging through its bites pretty intrinsic to the strategy. It's quite consistent.

>>121869693
you're projecting. His hitboxes are fine.

>>121869867
By trying to roll through it to hit the legs.

>>121869829
the only one on that list that is easier is the witches of hemwick. everything else either is genuinly challenging, or just takes time. hotdog isn't challenging and doesn't take very much time if you are consistent. The One Reborn is pissy easy i will admit that.

>>121869879
I-I’m at work anyway senpai…

>>121870083
I'll wait for you...

>>121869965
theres your fucking problem.

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>>121862189
At least he's not some faggot with a bird cage on his head.

>>121868907
>maybe you should take break, loranon
I won't stop shitting on Benjie for posting that garbage until he stops posting that garbage.

>>121870567
that's like saying I won't stop responding to tripfags until they go away.

>>121867963
Did you watch that one video where the guy stayed back and used BB's L2 for the whole fight? He wasn't avoiding danger. You can even see him get hit. The only difference between the two methods in terms of safety is one relies on timing your repositioning and one relies on timing your quickstep. They both have to watch out for charge attacks, and they each have an attack they need to look out for (focusing on the face requires you to dodge the swipes and focusing on the legs requires you to dodge its bites).

What makes the leg strategy more viable is access to pellets that you would not be able to utilize nearly as well if you spend your time landing one attack and waiting for a few seconds until you can go back in and land another.

Anyone else look at the pre-order and wonder why the DLC is only what, 19Mb?

Really got me questioning if it's on the damn disc already.

Or maybe it's a 19Mb patcher for a larger download.

>>121870156
I’ll be back from work in about 5 hours, if you’re still on/interested then sure bring whatever build your comfortable with. I’m pretty bad 2bh, but no one gets away with insulting my weaponfu. We can have a few games

Psn: d_barbz

>>121868685
People say Paarl is easy? fucking dude isn't easy. he's really obnoxious with his mobility. Damn thing can side step the whole arena in a couple of seconds.

>>121870827
Unfortunately, I can't stay awake until 3 in the morning before a work day.

Let's try this again on saturday, instead.

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Time to run through the chalice dungeons again...so fun

>>121870857
not necessarily people from /bbg/ but I've seen more than one video guide that calls him a "2-3 minute fight", which just made me even more pissed when I couldn't beat him.

>>121870801
I don't know why that is but if you look at full games available for pre-order it's the same deal.

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always relevent.

>>121870801
>>121871090
It's the theme you get with the pre-order that makes up the file size.

>>121870683
>Did you watch that one video
No. I didn't. I used the nose slap technique on 4 different builds and had great success each time.
>He wasn't avoiding danger. You can even see him get hit. T
His shortcomings aren't my fault or because of the strategy.
>The only difference between the two methods in terms of safety is one relies on timing your repositioning and one relies on timing your quickstep.
There's almost no need for tight timing on the positioning. It's piss easy. Meanwhile the dodging is much more finicky and risky.
>both have to watch out for charge attacks, and they each have an attack they need to look out for
No. The only things the noseslap style has are his jump/nuke/charge. The legs style is at risk from the rest of his attacks.
>What makes the leg strategy more viable is access to pellets
It's riskier. Nobody had trouble dealing damage, they had trouble surviving the fight. Pellets are retarded overkill and the legs are by far the riskiest method.

Which builds would /bbg/ recommend? My first character was Skill, I was thinking of BLT or Arcane next.

>>121871246
BLT builds are so fucking boring to get through the main game with, though. I feel like they deserve their gun spam for suffering through it. I gave up on my character because I just wasn't having any fun.

Please DLC, add good BLT weapons, chicago is lame

>>121870978
Fug timezones are gay, I’ll aim for this Saturday though (my Sunday)

>>121871683
>Chicago is fun
ftfy

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>>121871683
I am really hoping they don't magically make the bow-blade a BLT weapon somehow. I know that's almost impossible, but I still feel there is a chance in the dark recesses if my heart.

>>121871683

I had a lot of fun with that sword and even more fun with marrow evelyn in pvp fighting people who bowed. Always shot them there and recieved hatemail few minutes later kek.

>>121871593
Bloodtinge involves less of an immediate need for farming.

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>two guys spending time writing out paragraphs about which way to kill a boss is objectively the best when both ways make it dead

If you're gonna be faggots, at least discuss father Dieseldosh's thick veiny suckstick. Do you think if he slapped your face with it would it leave a slight bruise? How long could you hold your breath if he choked you with it?

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>>121872264
Faggot

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>mfw I riposte someone and get a R2 with the transformed threaded cane everytime because they always roll away.
>mfw I R2 someone out of getting up from a beast roar.

why is the cane so based?

I want a Bloodborne TV series. MC has to be Leonardo Di Caprio and Terry Crews a werewolf.

>>121872701
cane is for trash fags tbqh family

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>>121872791
stay salty tbqh family.

Reminder for people to learn how to play against the wheel :^)

>>121873027
but I beat canes consistently
they're just for fags because only a fag would use a cane/whip it's basically science

>>121871561
>z
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>No. I didn't. I used the nose slap technique on 4 different builds and had great success each time.
I used the leg method on 6 different builds and had great success each time. Guess that makes it better.

>His shortcomings aren't my fault or because of the strategy.
Then I guess his success isn't because of the strategy either.

>There's almost no need for tight timing on the positioning.
Yeah, you can just stick around after you hit his nose. You don't need to reposition. Just stay right there, man.

>It's piss easy. Meanwhile the dodging is much more finicky and risky.
No it isn't. It's
>piss easy.

>The only things the noseslap style has are his jump/nuke/charge. The legs style is at risk from the rest of his attacks.
There's AoE after he gets up after breaking the armor on one of his legs. That's it, and you literally have to have never fought him in order to not see it coming. His slam is more telegraphed than your shitposting and not having to deal with his leap is more attractive than having to deal with being near him when he uses his AoE upon entering phase 2. Unless, of course, dodging his leap is
>piss easy

>It's riskier. Nobody had trouble dealing damage, they had trouble surviving the fight. Pellets are retarded overkill and the legs are by far the riskiest method.
If no one had trouble dealing damage, there wouldn't be any complaints about his HP pool. Hotdog is an endurance fight. You only die because you didn't dodge an attack that he does 20 times. The leg method is easier because there are fewer attacks to dodge because of how dwindled his health is.

This was a lot longer than I'd hoped. I'm outie. Do whatever you want, man. Maybe run some more tests and get mad because no one cares again.

>>121873140
how many other canes do you see because I see hardly anyone using the cane besides me when i play.

>>121872791
>>121873140
When did this spicy meme start?

>>121873291
as much as any other weapon other than the big favorites like katanas and saw spears or the least common like rifle spears and beast claws

every weapon is for faggots

>>121873259
>z
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>b
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>a
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>o
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>t
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Welcome to 4chan. Retard. Keep pretending like greentext is problematic. It only makes you reek of reddit.

>>121873616

>tfw no fists only builds

>>121873453
it's just my hot opinion that's also self evident fact
even the description of the cane is faggy

>>121873684
>le rebbit

Chalice Brainsucket is the hardest boss. Debate me.

>>121874140
spam r1

>>121874140
you can wiggle out of the grab with mario party skills and take zero damage and consistently stagger it because it has no poise outside of the hyper armor grab and spells

>>121873684
>pretend like
Welcome to the English language Cv:

>>121874140
I bet you use logwheel lmao

you probably played through 2-1 with a hammer, too

>>121873259
>I used the leg method on 6 different builds and had great success each time. Guess that makes it better.
No. It makes you competent at the game
>Then I guess his success isn't because of the strategy either.
That's retarded and completely flimsy logic.
>Yeah, you can just stick around after you hit his nose. You don't need to reposition.
Stepping backwards before his next attack is infinitely simpler and easier than tming a dash through his bullshit.
>That's it,
You're insanely stupid. Legs style means you have to dodge 3-4 different bite attacks with perfect timing and hope he doesn't do followups. Nose style just patiently bops his sniffer until he dies.
>If no one had trouble dealing damage, there wouldn't be any complaints about his HP pool
Yeah. You're that dumb. They whine about his HP pool because killing him takes a long time. Not because they're doing insufficient damage. The nose style is best for easy damage too. Once his nose armor is broken, firearms and serrated weapons deal insane amounts of damage to him and can be used with ease.
> Hotdog is an endurance fight
Yes. So why are you pretending like higher damage is important for an endurance battle?
> I'm outie
Jesus fucking christ. Just fucking kill yourself.
> get mad because no one cares
4-5 people distinctly mentioned caring. I was mad because people shitposted instead of merely ignoring something that they allegedly didn't care about.

>>121869746
>Nothing unusual about the hitbox in the slightest
His hitbox is easily 2 - 3 feet larger than his character when he does the charge.

This is like defend Watchers and BSB being able to hit you through solid pillars.

>>121874210
>>121874501
>>121874245

You are wrong. I win this argument.

>>121873684
Not him, but yeah, when people sit there and spam a fucking wall of text quoting the other person and then putting in their poignant and insightful fresh hot opinions line by fucking line as if they're racking up points it's really annoying. I get that that's the way you do it here, but it's still a lazy way to argue a point.
Only newfags imply that others are newfags, you muh sekrit club quivering candle sniffing fuckfence

>>121871758
>Chicago is for shitters
ftfy

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>>121874140
He doesn't give a fuck

>>121874809
>Saw Spear is for shitters
ftfy

>>121873291
Canes are the 2nd meme weapon for Arcane shitters, after wheel.

>>121874763
Fuck you, Rom The Vacuous Spidet is harder.

>>121874963
>not saw spear

do you even play the game?

>>121874976
>not Vicat Amelia
when was the last time you guys even played this game?

>>121874884
>Saw Spear, Chikage, Wheel and Reiter are for shitters
ftfy

>>121875065
I've been seeing a lot more Cane on Arcane builds recently. Saw Spear has dropped in popularity quite significantly compared to Cane and Wheel, at least from what I've seen at Mego's PVP'ing like 50 invasions a day for the past week since I've came back.

>>121875089
>Saw Spear, Chikage, Wheel, Reiter, Ludwig's, Saw Cleaver, Riflespear, Steak Driver, Beast Claws, Kirk, BB, BoM, Axe, Tonitrus, Cane, Pistol, Blunderbuss, Ludwig's Rifle, Evelyn, Hunter Tools, Unarmed, Pebbles, Oil Earns, Molotovs, Rope Molotovs, and Shaman Bone Blade are for shitters
ftfy

>>121875319
bullshit I see saw spear all day every day

>>121875321
Nah, just Saw Spear, Chikage, Wheel and Reiter. They're all broken far beyond any of the other weapons.

>>121875321
Did you have a stroke?

>>121875445
Let's face it m8, the only weapon that isn't broken is Beast Claws.

>>121875408
>it's bullshit because other people can't experience different things than meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, it's all about meeeeeeeeeeeeee
Are you 12? I'm just stating I've seen more Arcane users wielding Canes lately. Calm down.

>>121875559
>beast claws
>not broken

>>121875656
>calm down
>that pathetic greentext tirade

Sorry your build has become the shitter build due to being extremely OP

>>121875408
most meme spears I see are a bunch of former ludwigs quality fags who probably went 25/50 or some suboptimal variation with heavy skill and got their ass beat too many times by the saw spear

>>121875759
>goes full autism calling someone bullshit about experiencing different things in PVP than them
>calls someone else pathetic
No anon, try harder.

And I don't even have an Arcane build let alone a Saw Spear/Cane Arcane build, nice projecting though.

Maybe you should focus on not being so passive aggressive.

>>121875962
haha you are the poster boy for passive aggressive responses, I was just being aggressive

>>121875962
>/bbg/
>Anything but passive aggressive faggots
You can tell I'm right because they fucking despise my openly aggressive and abrasive attitude. It steps on their fragile lil' egos

>>121876054
>I was just being aggressive
Why? There was no need. I wasn't stating there are less Saw Spears overall - there are far more Saw Spear users than Cane, all I was stating was I've seen a lot more *Arcane* users using Saw Spears lately, it seems to be a popular weapon for them.

Don't see how that's something worth getting aggressive over.

>doing this fire saw spear thing I keep hearing about
>it's really good when you get a fuck ton of depth 5 gems that make everything great!

>>121876208

fuck you

>>121876392
Love you too cutie.

>>121876236
Aggression takes many forms, saying 'bullshit' is very light aggression you should be able to handle. Besides, don't try and take the high road after this >>121875656. I'm not replying to you anymore, you're a waste of time

>>121876506

I don't need your fucking love, slut.

I need good arcane gems.

>>121875656
>>121875962
>>121876236
God what a fucking faggot

>>121876519
>don't try and take the high road after this
Are you really that upset that I made fun of you in internet memery greentext? You did deserve it though, your outburst over such a silly thing was dumb.

What's the fastest route to a lost saw spear for my arcane meme build?

>Put Ludwig out of his misery
>Find the remains of his small, self-made workshop
>Pick up the Ethereal Sword Badge
>Rush your ass to the Hunter's Dream to buy the Holy Moonlight Sword
>Requirements: 24/18/20/20

>>121877404
I hope it doesn't need to be bought from the messenger bath.

>>121877310

>grab starting weapon
>beat gascoigne
>head to old yharnam
>get ritual blood
>beat bsb
>do chalices until you are able to make a central/lower pthumeru root (I forget which one has access to the saw spear)
>make the root
>get saw spear chalice glyph
>hooray

You are all so fucking stupid. Lucifer is the only good decent user here with extensive Bloodborne knowledge.

Can you unzip burrito with a Chikage?

>>121877994
against australians, maybe

>>121878620

Australia, plz go.

>>121879241
why? :)

>>121875321

throwing knife only meta fucking when?

>>121874806
>it's really annoying
It's even more annoying when retards lay down paragraph after paragraph of poorly thought out, highly illogical garbage.

Greentext flourishes when arguing with morons and teenagers. There's no point posting my own large format ideas and arguments in response to logical fallacies and unsupported claims. So instead of wasting my time illiterate shitstains and wrting out larger form statements and whatnot, I just dismantle their garbage and point out all the flaws and inconsistencies. It's ugly, but it works. More importantly, it's a staple of 4chan discussion.

I don't get it
What do I have to do to join a FRC?
Do I really have to grind all that shit and make a FRC of that depth?
Or will making a depth 2 Fetid unlock every fetid dungeon?

>>121880075
>Or will making a depth 2 Fetid unlock every fetid dungeon?
yes

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>>121880043
Shh, go rest now loranon. You only think everyone else is illogical because you're bad at communication.

>>121880176
>implying implications
The sort of logic I deal with around here is pathetic. Not even 2 hours ago, Benjie tried to argue that Defiled Hotdog is an endurance fight and therefore you should worry about minmaxing your damage. It's absurd. The exact opposite is true when you're looking at drawn out endurance fights. You focus on safety and patience, not high damage.

>>121880075

Let's say you wanted to join an FRC Ihyll. You need to actually make one yourself. Then, once you've done that, you can use the chalice search or glyph search to copy someone else's Ihyll dungeon.

If you've completed Isz/Loran, but haven't made them FRC, and you still have the FRC Ihyll, you can actually search for FRC Isz/Loran without needing to make your own FRC version.

Basically, in order to unlock all FRC dungeons, you need to make at least one of them on your own and you have to have completed the story versions of the others at least once.

I'm not sure if you can unlock each rite on its own, but it's worth a try.

>>121880291
>implying that was benjie and not some random anon fucking with the easily-riled loranon
>implying anyone wouldn't feed bullshit to the spergatron 9000 just to see what comes out the other end

I sometimes wonder how you can breathe.

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Why does Loranon (or that one guy who vehemently defends Loranon who might just be him anyway) have a vendetta against Benjie?

Why don't they just settle it in cb7?

>>121880571

Get off it dude

>>121880291
It stops being as much of a drawn out endurance fight because you really only need "effort" once it's at half health. You bring it there without it attacking much because you keep it staggered by attacking the legs. Once it reaches that point, you're really fighting depth 1 hotdog that has more damage.

You really need things to do, my man.
Benjie isn't the only person that uses this strat.

>>121880563
Dude gets mad at everything, and loranon doesn't pvp.
You really should have seen the massive spergout he had here when people made fun of him for trying to shoehorn his useless experiment results to an anon that wasn't asking for it.

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>>121880768

I saw his little bitchfit, I wouldn't have cared so much if it didn't forever taint the riflespear as the loranonspear

>>121880768
>the riflespear experiment
You got that picture where he shoves the result of his experiment to some poor anon's throat?

>>121880768
>. You bring it there without it attacking much because you keep it staggered by attacking the legs
And you access those legs by putting yourself at larger risk than what is needed to hit the face. It's not good advice. If you're good enough to use that technique, you're not the kind of player who needs a guide on how to beat Watchdog. It's wasted advice. Advice should be the safest/cheesiest methods so that the brain damage cases who need it, can implement and execute it more easily.
>Benjie isn't the only person that uses this strat.
No, he's just the one who spams his infographic. I'm attacking him specifically because ages ago I posted some defiled hotdog advice and he went in an specifically called mine out as bad and tried to push his "EZHOTDOG" graphic on somebody. Just to be clear, my advice was simply the nose tapping strat. He was so eager to have his special little infographic circulate and soak up all that positive attention, that he was actively attacking other advice. I called him out on it ages ago and he admitted that he was just "shitposting for kicks" or some garbage


>loranon doesn't pvp.
I've been in every saturday fightclub for 3-4 weeks now. Nice try though.

>You really should have seen the massive spergout
you mean when people shitposted at me for sharing testing info? Yeah. That was HILARIOUS.

.

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>>121880571
I'm kinda interested in playing that. I've already played all the MH DLC, finally finished Undertale don't meme on me and I've had to resort to fucking about with mods on Skyrim. Plus everywhere is boring at the minute because of muh Fallout. Now I know how the FREEZE ME FUCK guy feels, I need this fucking DLC.

>>121880563
Loranon has some obsession with him, I reckon. There's one anon who used (haven't been here for a few weeks) to shitpost saying that /bbg/ is only about waifus and PvP (he would always ALWAYS mention these two things specifically). I have a strong suspicion that is Loreanon, because he vehemently hates anything that isn't HIS lore in /bbg/. The time he spazzed out over the Rifle Spear experiment was hilarious. I kinda think he see's Benjie as someone that encapsulates everything that he sees as wrong in /bbg/ (banter, PvP, lil waifu faggotry, helping newfriends, actually discussing lore properly etc etc). Plus Benjie has helped shit loads of anons in-game (which makes him popular) whilst Loreanon is loathed by 100% of the regulars for shitting up threads and being overly aggressive and obnoxious with his fellow lore fags.

Anyway, that's my psychological assessment kek.

>>121881245
Well, that's a cheap imitation.
>.
You fucked it up.

>>121881245

psn?

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guys i have my brain lined with eyes and benjie is loranon.

He gave us a boogeyman to sustain life in threads, yet they never fight?

like the movie fightclub

>>121881060
>I didn't save it
god fucking dammit

Who could Loranon be?

Drisful
Phresko
Topburger
Buscemi
Benjie

Reminder that saying Hotdogs leg strategy isn't as good as attacking the head is because you're not good enough to do it without getting hit.
It's a literal admittance since everyone agrees it's faster, too.

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>>121881060
>>121881660

>>121881968
>you're not good enough
It's not about how good you are or how fast the strategy is. Advice is for idiots who can't think or play for themselves. The easiest/safest method is the best one to share with people who need help.

>>121882068

>Loranon
>A fallen autist deprived of his medication

>>121882069
That would be co-op/piggy-backing.

>>121882174
>co-op/piggy-backing.
Co-op is usually the best idea, but I find the success rates are horrible for Defiled Hotdog/Amy. Having two potential aggro targets makes them much less predictable and manageable, not to mention potential latency shenanigans and the HP pool getting even more unreasonably big.

>>121882068
>K
based

>>121882131
There is no medication for autism, for the same reason that there is no medicine to fix brain damage. You can change how the brain behaves by adding extra hormones or inhibitors, but you can't change the structure of the brain itself.

>>121882293
Sometimes, but I do think Amy is easier to co-op for almost any build, sand for Loran Darkbeast.

>>121882432
>but you can't change the structure of the brain itself.
Merciless watcher wielding big club disagrees.

>>121881741
Benjie
Loranon:
>remembers when and what benjie posts
>name begins with a consonant
>followed by a vowel
>followed by a consonant

It was there, right in front of us this whole time.

>>121884325
It makes perfect sense, actually. He knows his lore ideas will not be taken seriously, so he had to make a scapegoat to catch all the flack from his convoluted lore ideas. To make it believable, he even started arguing with himself regarding the more conventional way of defeating Defiled Hotdog. That man is a madman!

Why the fuck did you even give him a name instead of just ignoring him. It's 4fuckfaces all over again now, thanks to you faggots.

>>121885546
Rule 18.

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mercedes is looking forward to introducing some new friends to the wheel

>>121886610
your waifu a slut

>>121886815
dragon's dogma PC release in january

are you prepared

>>121886905
DD PC release is perfect, since I'm giving my PS3 away to a friend. I hope you can import saves from PS3/360 to PC but I know better than to expect it.

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ACB breddy gud

>>121887062
Oh man that big dommag

proposed name change for pizza cutter -> saw mill gravy

>>121856867
oh my god lel
>>121856627
Its eyes are engorged with fluid (and a lot of blood), a rare deformity if it was born with it, or a result of infection/other damage.

>>121885546
Because le ebin circlejerk crew wanted a meme and a bogeyman as tools to help enforce their way of doing things

Anyone available to help with Rom?

>>121888225
What BL family

>>121888809
maybe it should mention in the sticky that bl isn't relevant with a password because everyone keeps asking about it

>>121888809
23

>>121888908
Everyone keeps asking about it because downscaling can be attrocious so we don't want to bring SL120's to help a 50

>>121888225

Sure!

Set a password.

>>121889102
Alright, it's bbg

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>Get curious what all those canisters around Burgerworth are
>Smash one
>It's full of eyes
>They're all full of eyes

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>>121889263

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>>121860651
Not entirely true

>>121887062
>do the same thing to chalice ebrietas
>does no damage
>end up merry-go-rounding her with the flamesprayer
Chalices aren't going to be fun with lmao10vit

>make fire saw spear build
>destroying everything
>not even chikage fags or wheel fags to contend
>i am the supreme autist
:^)

>>121881968
People don't want faster in defiled chalices. They want safer.

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>Just learn the DLC will have the moonlight greatsword (in;b4 slowpoke)
>My only arc build is severely under leveled and in NG+ with shit gems
Shit, you guys think I could go from scratch to BL98 with 3 27.2% gems by the 22nd?

Anyone wanna help with abhorrent right quick?
I just hate this fucker.

Pass 123bbg

>>121890379
Yeah

>>121890438
On my way family

>>121890367
Reread his post, Lucy.

>>121890379
Depends on how long it takes to farm the gems you want. Getting to that level, and getting your gear upgrade can be done in just a couple of days.

At the very least, you can have chalice gems might make the DLC too easy anyway.

>>121890601
I did read it, and what I said still applies. Which is the better strategy depends on the goal. In the Defiled Chalices, the goal is safety. That means that the better strategy is the safer one.

Can you use the fire gem that you find under the workshop close to the brainsucker as your first arcane scaling gem? Iirc it just has +x,x % fire atk up but x,x% of 0 will still be 0 so it would be useless until you find a +x fire damage up gem, right?

What do you guys think will be good gems to use with Simon's bowblade? Piercing damage for tricked mode?

>>121890819
Anything that gives +%fire, bolt, or arcane damage will convert the base damage of the weapon from physical to the respective element.

>>121890793
No Lucy it's safer and faster.

>>121890909

We won't know until it's available for science.

>>121890819
You can use it

>>121890793
I don't have any current character without chalice gems, even my BL43 has chalice gems and she's the only character I have that isn't either severely overpowered or severely under leveled.

Now that I think about it I have no idea what the state requirements will be, should probably rush that shit with my main and grab every thing before I start planning builds.

>>121890909
Doesn't it deal split damage? I'd go with nourishing
Shouldn't be too hard farming amy with it

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>>121890819
A percentage gem will convert all damage to that element if the weapon is a pure damage weapon (e.g. not a split damage weapon like wheel/rifle spear). So yes, you can stick that little moon in your lolwigs or memespear and slit up beasts while you cook them.

>>121890438
Ringing through SRRC but not getting anything. Chalice is open, oath runes off etc?

>>121890819
Yes, you want that one.

Then you want tobgo to layer 2 of the pthumerian labyrinth and farm those 2 guys that jump down in the room to your left for a couple fire radials.

And if you really want to hit harder faster run through to central pthumeria.
Layer 2 has the same 2 guys that jump down in the room to the left and they can drop up to like 13% fire radials.

>>121890984
Yeah.
Everything should be good.

I'll give it another minute or 2 then try resetting everything if it doesn't find you

>>121890940
>It's safe to dodge past bites
>It's safe to cause explosions when legs break

The face is the easiest target.

>>121890793
Go fuck yourself :^)

>>121890961
I am using this build:

30/20/30/15/18/25

It lets you use everything in the game so far (except ACB), including the the DLC items we know the stats of so far. I plan on using it to go through the DLC and try out all the weapons to see if I want to build a character around any of them.

Assuming nothing in the DLC has massive requirements that use up all my spare points, I plan on raising the ARC on it to 40 so it can use everything in the game.

>>121891305
Shut the fuck up, noone cares

>>121891087
You're more likely to get hit by a swipe because you misjudged distance than I am by a bite because I messed up on timing. It's not even about le git gud xD, it's about using iframes -- a mechanic that is by no means new to the series -- on an attack with a very clear and distinct windup.

My fight will also be much shorter so there's even fewer chances for me to mess up on in the first place. That makes it safer.

>>121891305
Imma just run in with my beast claw build, 40/25/15 str/skl/arc. I'll probably only miss out on BT weapons first time around (unless we get our first arc weapon with a high requirement)

I fucking hate this broken ass short root shit...

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I'll ask tonight's crew; anyone into high-level invasions? And if so, do you know what some good hunting grounds are, at what levels? I've been taking my 98 all around Yharnam and not getting many bites, so I figure I must be doing something wrong.

>>121891464
>Using short root
>Ever

>>121891408
>You're more likely to get hit by a swipe because you misjudged distance than I am by a bite because I messed up on timing
That's nonsense. The bite's range is extremely easy to judge. you depth perception must be pathetic. You'e safe if you don't commit to a dash into his legs. If he does followups or anything else, you're still completely in control of the situation and just get more damage in. The kind of player who needs advice is not the kind of player who should be mastering high risk, high reward styles.

Honestly, sounds to me like you should try to learn how to judge depth better in the game. Sounds like a weakspot for you.

>That makes it safer.
Maybe if you'e good. But if you're good, you're not running off to 4chan or the internet for advice. The kind of player who wants or needs advice is the kind who can't execute perfect dodges 10-20 times in a row. It's much safer for them to learn to bait/slap his bites.

Never get into teaching or tutoring. You're bad at this whole "advice" thing.

>>121890984
Thank you.

Ran at him once and almost had him dead. It is so much easier with 2 people.

Wanna help again on layer 2 of lower when I get there?

>>121891543
98 is still king anon, the problem is almost no one who still summons help plays the game anymore so the only real viable area's to invade are Frontier or Mensis

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>>121891672
>that finish
Yeah just give me a yell when you want me

>>121891654
Welcome to 4chan

>>121891376
You clearly cared enough to get upset about it.

>>121891414
To each their own. I have just been wanting to make a Testing build for awhile, and the DLC finally gave me an excuse to get motivated to do it.

>>121891750
It would be nice if the DLC added a fair arena.

>>121890920
>>121890957
>>121890984
>>121891000

Thanks lads.

>>121891824
Jesus Christ. ACB makes PvE a joke.

>>121891824
Haha, awesome.

I just ran through layer 1. I'll just ring now and run to open the door while we wait to connect

>>121892134
Ringing

Why are there so many people making 70/99 Arc builds all of a sudden, when the tool scaling info was published months ago?

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GODDAMMNIT IVE LITERALLY BEEN LOVING BLOODBORNE FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS AFTER PLAYING SEVERAL GAMES JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THE GAME IS JUST SO GOOD

THE WORLD IS BEAUTIFULLY CRAFTED
THE LORE IS BEAUTIFULLY CRAFTED
THE GAMEPLAY, THE WEAPONS, THE UI, OH MY GOD, EVEN THE OVERALL DESIGN CHOICES JESUS FUCKING DICK SON OF A BITCH!!!! ITS JUST SO GOOD. GOD DAMN FUCKING SHIT FUCK FUCK THIS IS MIYAZAKI'S PEAK IN TERMS OF GAME CREATIVITY (SO FAR..)

THIS IS THE BEST, MOST CONSISTENT GAME I'VE PLAYED IN 2015 SO FAR. IT COULD HAVE BEEN GOTY IF IT WEREN'T FOR MGSV AND BLOODBORNE BEING SORTA NICHE. AAAUGH WAHDAHUDSUDHSSCNIANCJHSHADUWUH I LOVE THIS GAME!!

I kinda wish it offered more though, seems a bit lackluster in some places, but still a damn good game.

>>121891654
Hotdog doesn't just bite if you stand in front of it waiting for an opening on the nose. Swipes are what will get you. If you're paying enough attention to reposition to avoid the flames or, dare I say, iframe through them, you're paying enough attention to iframe through a bite.

What is "good" about pressing square then pressing R1? That's what the leg strategy is; even a mouthbreating troglodyte like you could pull it off if you believed in yourself hard enough and asked your helper to strap your helmet on extra tight.

>Tomb Prospector looks great from the front
>Turn around
>Become a triangle

>>121892501
It would shine more after the DLC comes, though. Similar to Dark Souls and Dark Souls II. They immensely got better after the expansions came out.

>>121892332
God damn it lol
Ran through and unlocked it and was sitting here thinking "why thebfuck hasn't it found him yet?"

My dumb ass was just in anhurry, made it, jumped in and speed ran through...and forgot to make the fucking thing open...

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>>121892791
Makes up for the fact I forgot to take off the radiance rune before last time...found you in under a minute after I realised and took it off lol

>>121892501
Personally, I still don't think it is as good as DaS1 or DeS. I think it got caught up in the same shit that DaS2 did, where it tries to hard to be hard just for the sake of being hard.

>>121892654
I agree with this, if only because of how much new gear it is bringing to the table.

>>121893025
Yeah, the Dark Souls 1 world is great, but I just love how Bloodborne's setting is just so... unique tasting. It's really hard to explain. Dark Souls 1 perfectly captured the feel of a knight, whilst Bloodborne perfectly captured the feel of a hunter. The difference is, the Hunter mechanics and all just feel better with me. I never played DeS despite having a PSP.

How's the Bloodborne DLC looking so far? Haven't seen any thing besides that Ludwig boss and Pizza Cutter.

I haven't watched any demo or trailer for Dark Souls 3 so far, how is it? Is Miyazaki pouring his heart out of is this one of them "closure" titles every Director has to put up with?

>>121893126
The Lovecraft feel is still there and many of the weapons look fun to play. I am most looking forward to the Moonlight sword (a series staple) and the Bow.

I am assuming DaS3 is a closure title, so he can fix what went wrong in DaS2. I haven't been following it though.

>>121893239
>Moonlight sword (a series staple)
You mean company staple.

>>121893283
I know that it has been in the Souls series, Armored Core series, and Kings Field series. I am not sure if it has been in any of their other games.

Thanks again.

Up for camerabeast?

>>121893357
Well, I'm trying to play through Shadow Tower but that game is on a whole other level.
Would be surprised if its in there though.

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>>121893357
nice save!

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excluding the use of hunter tools, In terms of damage from weapons, is there realy benefit to arcane over high skill or high strength?
It seems phsical damage will always be more than arcane damage. Or am i wrong?

>>121893490
No worries, nah I'm shit at the fight, and I've been playing for around 9 hours straight. I might have a rest lol