/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #88

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Milky way is viable in mid without Kevin?

Jury nerfs when BB
thunder nerfs when

>>121733349
I use Milky and I wouldnt use her without Kevin

>>121733349
Depend on what do you want to do imo.

If you have WoM and Silla ace, it's not really that much necessary. Of course starting at 60% is pretty good. I have seen some people leaving milky on mid position to buff their attacker

>>121733434
I still think it's retarded BB didn't nerf Nerua's teamwide thunder buff.
They already have way too much shit going for them, the last thing their frontline needs is 20% more hp and defense to deal with.

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Any ways I can fix up my teams positioning?

Should I use Luka instead of Iggy up top?

>>121733434
>Jury nerfs when
Never, nerfing % damage is admitting that they are incompetent idiots who can't script AI. Same reason for why Ravian won't get nerfed. They would rather buff something else so people switch to that buffed player, like how people are switching to Sharr.

>>121733349
I wouldn't, Milky infinite worked because she takes no damage if she's always the one attacking but the nerf + lack of Kevin is going to put you in a situation where an enemy lineup that invests in speed is going to walk over Milky and make her useless for the rest of the game

Which doesn't help because your lineup has absolutely nothing to help your speed starting out

>>121733124
Nari's great as a passer, but you're running Uriel.
Silla gives you action bar. Sammy gives you action bar and will also revive Uriel after she suicides into the enemy bot lane.

>>121733946
Use Eden CM, move Cynthia to the back.

>>121733946
>thunder
kill yourself

>BT
>Enemy William got enough to crit
>OHSHIT.jpeg
>506 crit dmg
>They always focus on crit totem but not on pen
Noice.

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>>121733171
Best cat

>>121733962
>so people switch to that buffed player, like how people are switching to Sharr.
Sharr was untouched for as long as Ravian was unless you count the extra damage to Dark as significant.

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>>121734239
wrong image

>>121734467
>Shitose

>>121734239
Day 123

Still no useful stone from dumb cat

Worst cat

>>121734305
>extra damage to Dark
extra damage to WW is pretty significant

>>121733801
Think you need a WoM on her, and lots of crit damage/pen.
I actually came across one in high Diamond who took off >50% HP from my Isillia through Silla ace with just an active shot.

>>121734681
Is that the one with Baltheon frontline? That Lucid hits really hard.

>Just need this stone +14 to +15
>Look combination
>Will need more 512k
>Haven't finished my unique because of retarded issues wasting money on scout
send help

>>121734681
>>121734820
You're probably talking about mine. At least I haven't run into any other lucids in upper diamond. I have PoL on her right now but if I were to get a WoM I'd probably switch to it since I've been having crit issues.

>>121734642
She had that since day 1 of her EE. Just sayin', no one's switching to Sharr/Ravian because 'they got buffed' because they hardly were since February.

Do people already start using Miho in League
is she that good?

>>121734820
>>121734986
I can't remember if it had a Balth, but it probably had a Silla there. Didn't pay enough attention to it since I was expecting a cakewalk until I saw the shot number.

Reposting this from last thread, trying to make a dark fuccboi team how does this sound?
Vitos/Jeunese/Baltheon
Durahan/Dale/Jheet
Avnore/Malcolm/Zibroi/Lucifer/Orses

I'm nearing 900 Dimension Stones and I want to know how I can improve my line up.

Veronica - Silla - Ravian
Duke - Metatron - Sammy
Nerua - Yuki - Mikael
BT

I was thinking about getting Beth or Bell because I heard they're OP but I need some more opinions. Any suggestions would be good because I want to break Diamond PVP.

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help

>>121735385
Beth definitely.

>>121735385
Beth
or Jin to replace your Nerua

>>121735529
Who would I replace?

Why is Luka's art so S H I T?

>>121735212
Her action bar skill is broken. You'll see a lot more whines about her next season after people have started to superb her and stick uniques on her.

>>121735385
Beth.
Remove Veronica and put Sammy up front.

>>121735539
Between them who do you think would be more worth it?

>>121735385
Sammy up front
Beth or bell to replace sammy. Beth's active would be good for action bar but she's paper thin until superbed. Gives duke more hp though.

Bell can be a destroyer in the backline if you don't already have anael or somebody there

>>121734142
Hey man they came to me I didn't pick this life, if they were all max id see how no legend mono-thunder goes

>>121735616
Put Beth in Sammy current position, move Sammy top and bench Veronica.

>>121735665
Well I morph my Nerua then recall her for Shosho and got my Migo up to 4 superb
What unique should I stick in her?
thinking of either Ancient Stormer or Essence of Greed

reposting

should i use a pen thunder stone or a crit damage thunder stone on hiro if he's paired with guin and luka?

>>121735974
Ancient Stormer if you have it.
I only have Miho with 2 blue pen stones and ST right now and she's pretty damn good. I'll likely dump a few littres on her to make her stats not so shit and max active.

Now that I finally have another rainbow elemental, would it be worthwhile to recall 2 sups off my Nerua + her st to put onto a 0 everything Silk or my Miho?
I'm thinking about looking for a Raklet to replace her for general usage anyway.
Going to wait a couple days anyway to see if I can scout another one for an extra sup.

>>121736141
The receiving pass thunder stone.

>>121735496
>got a shot in on his 1.8k Isillia
>900
if Duke got to attack her I could have done so much more with Sharr
>didnt have all his stone slots filled
>Nera regular passed for 1.6k
>Lucid crit for 2k on my lone Isillia
I almost thought I had a chance after seeing his Lucid hit for 200s

>>121735787
for now I say go Beth
and you will have the one of the most cookie cancer team right now

Still lately I dont think that 3 Legends midline is that good now.
Duke are so retard he shoot the ball everytime he got it, and Beth wont penetrated because muh leader AI
and you can just make 4 man midline to stop Meta from Penetrating

>>121736335
You lost because of your extreme shit taste

>>121736269
i have 1 in my prism slot already, should i go 2 of those?

>>121736335
oi m8 can u put Milky or something useful up, Anael a shit friend Ace.

>>121736437
The only 4 mids I see get away with 4 mid is thunder because they don't need a backline.

>>121736485
I'm pretty sure I dont like snowballs anon

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Rip me.

>>121736546
You should. Three crit stones on hiro is mandatory for pvp.

>>121736679
sure, just changed it

>>121736748
That's just a 0 action speed and probably near 0 reflexes backline. If that ronald isn't invested it should be somewhat easy.

>>121736960
That Ronald is 4 sup.

>>121736748
Use Jury with lots of crit resist and laugh as they suicide.

Friendly reminder that Avnore is best boy.

>>121736748
He's doing it wrong
Vitos/Jew/Balth
Dale/Meta/Cynthia
Avnore/Orses/Ronald/Alice/Lia
Maybe stick a Malcolm some where.

Seems like the 21 days return reward is no longer available after you do it once.

Both my alts account with 23 days inactive didn't get it ;_;

Is there any spot I can put my Meta beside CM?
somehow when I try to ask /ssg/ for opinion they always goes
>Meta
>not CM
>huurr duur your team is shit

since lately everyone has Meta now and everygame is basically depend on coin flip

>>121737501
Well that's good to know. Now I don't feel bad that I can't do that anymore as club owner.
Might also solve some of the inactive issues some clubs are having.

>>121737693
infront of the striker

>>121737693
She works any line.

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Huh.

other than legendaries, who are the most desired cards?

nerua, ??

>Last time Jury appeared I didn't got her because "she wasn't on color" as /mbgg/ taught me in the early year.
>Worst mistake ever
If the unit has good skills, get it newbie anons.

>>121738756
Lucy

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FUCK THIS GAME

>>121739062
>not liking the best gk

>>121736748
is balth mid a thing?

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>>121738821
> Listening to /mbgg/

>>121739062
>not liking best boy
When his EE comes out, you can go fuck yourself

>>121736335
>1.8k Isillia

Anyone who can read korean here?
Both version of >>121688326 were posted on naver but I don't know where.

>>121739530
>Colo50 GalaxyLeague Heavenfall whale
>meme arrows

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>>121739530
well his backline was meta cynthia bell silk

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>>121739536
just use google translate and find the fan art section on the bar on the left

>>121738756
Nerua USED to be one of the most desired. I guess it's Isillia and BT now. For managers lucy and Gerold

>>121740068
that support slot metatron could have been anywhere

>>121688616
Well, Beato is generic as fuck

not as generic as Sharr though

meta would probably be the best legendary to reroll for right?

is it worth it to embark on this adventure?

>>121740568
only if you wanna be cancer

>>121738756
Miho

>>121739371
He's extremely strong and pretty tanky himself. Anyone who gets a pass from him is penetrating the line no matter what as well.

>>121736241
So, uhm, guys? Any opinions here?

>Leventor active
>3 bars of spirit
>Kei decides he's too cool to use active
If BB is too retarded to program the AI properly at least just give GKs 4 passives then.

>>121740568
>rerolling for a specific legend
It's an adventure into madness. Generally you take any non-shit legend and rush to 30 to see if you get fucked with a dupe or William.

>>121741462
Your fault for using that faggot.

>>121739536
You can search up their username on naver and find it that way.

>>121741462
I noticed that if the ball gets too fast to the frontline, Kei, Ronald and such doesn't use their active.

>Virgil penetrate in less than 2min
>Ball goes to Elaine, she uses the active
>Kirin receive the ball and active shoot
>Kei doesn't block most of times

>>121736241
If you plan to use Nerua only as totem, then yes. And use them on a S2 player if you can as they cannot be scouted.

>using hiro over leventor
>leventor at the back
There's some retarded people in platinum

Eden nerf when? Too strong for a 4* card.

>>121742309
She's not too strong, your team is too weak.

>>121742309
There need to be more viable 4*s. As it is they're only more useful than 3*s in that you can turn them into 5* ST fodder quicker.

>>121740301
God Bless you anon.
I want Beato to hug me to death.

>>121742493
They shouldn't be better than 5*s though

>>121742309
She's already been directly nerfed once and nerfed again indirectly from lowered stat gains on ST

I don't understand the game.
Ardor legendaries are way too weird.
Seriously I was comparing Hildegard & Shu then Leventor & William and the joke is unreal.

>>121742474
>Eden with 680~stats attacking
>Whore buffing speed for MetaBeth position + their defense + DR

>>121742493
If there were more 4* viable I wouldn't have even mentioned nerfs on her

what's the most efficient way to st cards?

just collect 2*s and grind them out to 5*s?

bronzelords leader you there?

>>121742980
I'd rather just accumulate 4* and then max lv one and turn it on 5*, you waste less resources this way or use 3* if you feel like it

>>121742980
That's the least efficient, though easiest way. The most efficient way aside from Meras and trash 5*s is using natural 4*s.

>>121743172
Hai.

>>121742980

Turning 4*s to 5*s. It's a huge pain in the ass to start from any lower.

>>121743356
>>121743369
>>121743586
alright cool thanks guys

>>121743407
Let me in
>btw don't have vg on my profil because I'm lazy and eating right now

>>121743369
If you're patient enough, you can save some extra 4 star nats over time by passively leveling some 2 and 3 stars doing dailies or whatever and get 4 star fodder by turning the 2 stars into 3 star fodder and turning one 3 star nat into 4 star.

>>121744046
Natural XP growth is awful in this game. I'd only use the 2* method if you were short one ST fodder and you had a ton of pengs sitting around from dailies.

>>121739371
>>121740780
Is this some flashy stuff to do but in reality is weak?

>>121743708
You're in.
Had to kick an inactive. That prunes the numbers down to only a few people that haven't checked in for a couple days, so not too bad.

>>121744521
He'll hold up to attacks as well as Metatron would and can wear battalion too. I think the real idea with ravian is to rely on balth's slowness.

In that line dale would pen, rav shoots, ball is brought to mid, balth might reflex steal or ball is brought to back. Ball is brought back to mid, balth is full or nearly full and actives to dale letting him go immediately and bring the ball back to front. Between dale and BD and balth's own stats/passives balth would have a shitload of reflexes and the enemy mid much less

Where the FUCK is the Littre pack?

>>121744805
What stone would be better for metatron? Batallion or TW? Can she use either/or?

>>121744967
Day 11+ or day 13+ of each month if I am not wrong

>>121744967
Ye, I might actually buy that. Could use the sups and I don't care about dstones anymore, so I don't feel as about about it not being 50 stones.

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>tfw your team is really good in PvE but shit in PvP

>>121745627
>tfw your team is shit at both

It can't be helped ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I have Miho benched. She could be useful for my mid position as I already have decent reflex character on it, but Eden is being more useful because of speed buff.

I guess I will just evo her and max hp her for now.

>>121745627
That's actually good because you at least decided to focus on it. There are people who focus on both and become garbage at both. You just picked the better deal because PVE rewards come quicker and more abundant and its benefits eventually spill over to PVP. People who focused on PVP get better gold/gp gain and a burst of rewards every 1 1/2 month.

>>121746456
She's a decent totem without investment, but I don't think we'll see broken Miho until people have time to finally invest in her a bit.

>>121746884
PvP focus is better.
>more littre if higher ranked
>every season reset you gain those crystals and d-stone from each new rank up

>>121745073
TW if you want retard reflexes
Battalion if you want her to tank some hits

If I am aiming for Glabaris I just throw a thunder stone first?

>>121748397
Yes, but enjoy your Star's Tears.

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Well this week has been more generous to me in scouts, only reason I haven't picked nerua up is that theres one lightning player on my team...also if I find anyone better like an issila I'll just hope for nerua from next weeks draw

>>121748492
pls don't, I need Glabaris for Shanti

The draw rates are awful today. Save your crystals.

>>121748552
>is that theres one lightning player on my team
assuming you dont already have her, that doesnt matter, 2 of her skills are still great and not thunder only
>...

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that time of month again

>>121748819
S2 legendary or a GK

>>121748878
>S2 legendary
what

>>121748672
its always awful

>>121749051
Ops, forgot it's s1 exclusive

Any tips for draw?

>>121748819
Beato

>>121749148
scientists have figured out that dickrolling gives a 5% higher chance of rolloing a 5* compared to regular finger rolling

>>121749148
Crystal draw? Do it as how you prefer. 10+1 is good because in fact you get one free draw out of it.

I get more 5* with single draws but then I get a long ass time of shitty draws

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>>121748878
>s2 legendary in an s1 exclusive box

>>121749051
eh, can't complain. last superb for her and i use her a lot for climbing CoD

>>121749148
There aren't many spells worth drawing over crafting in the later parts of the game, and before then you won't need the best junctions. So the best draw tips I can give you are that suspicious spots on the world map often have hidden draw points that even move-find won't reveal and that the shumi village draw point is completely worth it.

>>121749532
what

>>121749532
Ah, fond memories.

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> Tfw want to do a 10+1 because I haven't done one in a long time
> Should definitely put them towards farming penguin gold

I hate what this has become

>>121734115
Thank you friend shes working very well there

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>duke ace
>beatrice striker

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>Box full of minions to sell
>Club is one point away from shop 6
someone in VG please check in

I'm starting with the game and I'm in a little trouble with my midline.
I think I need an attacker to replace Gerrard.
Which are the best to search in scout?
Also, I've seen some people using Anael though she is defender, why is that?

>>121754193
Posting your team would help, there are a lot of attackers that work fine in mid.

We Connection Lost spirits again?

>>121754193
>>121754193
Mikael or Lynia for buffs. Hildegard is the best option for raw power, but most of the attackers that have EE’s are also viable and have their own benefits.

Anael is extremely good at stealing, and can use ignition catalyst to usually act first. She doesn’t really fill the same role as an attacker, though.

is there no hungryapp collab this time around?

is hercules any good now?

>>121755295
Beatrice/Silla/Kiki
Gerrard/Sammy/Veronica
Lia/Silk/Magnus
Jin

I practically used all the 5* I have there, so I need a good attacker in middle.
>>121756058
Thanks, I'll search for some of those.
If I get IC I think I'll use Anael, I just noticed she has a good totem that may be useful

>>121756393
Hes a shitty roina

Use roina And let me watch

>>121742309
Eden needs an EE desu senpai.

>>121757967
Valkia >>> Eden

>>121757967
>more thunder EEs
no

>>121758187
Yes

>>121758339
thunder should be removed instead

>add in a bunch of thunder ee's
>add in a bunch of dark ee's
we're next ardorbros, i can feel it.

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>tfw Leventor one shots your almighty Isillia

>>121758939

W-when will WW get their next EE?

>>121759506
never

>>121759506
>WW
Who?

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> Tfw gatekeeping people from diamond while I hardfarm arena

>tfw lost most of my matches in league today
I wonder why I'm losing so much today compared to yesterday where I barely lost

>>121760342
Because you're shit

>>121760739
that doesnt explain why I won most my matches yesterday though

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Do I scout Sammy?

>>121760951
shes great for colo
you dont need her for PvP

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

>>121761112
>only one cute girl
that sucks

>>121761112
Look on the bright side anon, with one more 4* character that's enough to make one 5* ST material.

>>121759506
Meiran next update
please big ball
id even settle for rudiel at this point

is it just me or the season point drop amount lower than normal? been getting 2-6 when I've gotten 6-12 in the previous boss

>tfw someone from your own club kek you from your streaks
Damnit anon

C'MON BB, I HAVE ALL THE MATERIALS READY TO EE SHANTI. I KNOW YOU'LL GIVE HER WHAT SHE DESERVES NEXT PATCH. PRETTY PLEASE BB ;_;.

>>121762920
Milky way needs an ee then shanti and kevin

>>121763115

>recalled player
>getting an EE

hahahaha

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>>121763115
>MW
>EE
>MW recalled twice

>>121763253
Nerua, and Elaine are recalled with ees time to give milky her justice and allow her to be viable without the Kevin meme team

>was at colo 37 with 1.9mil
>dropped out of the top 1%
well fuck, gonna have to try 38 this week

>>121761112
Believe me, it's still better than most rolls.
Three of mine have been 10 3* and the mandatory 4*

>>121762920
>Tfw have shura
>Tfw verista got ee and shura will be doomed to take forever cause she's been and an s2 ee just released for dark

>>121761112
At least it's a lot of gp Too

Tomorrow (Nov 10) marks 5 months since WW's last EE.

Bravo BB, you retards

Is V-Bird worth scouting for rainbow?

>>121763739
I already said so in last thread senpaitachi
>>121681723

>>121763669
The recall came after the EE though.

>>121764749
depends on your current team comp

>>121764732
>complaining when ww has the most s2 units

>>121765150
He's an attacker right? I already have Hildegard, Dale, Mikael, and Anael so I skipped.

>>121765193
>implying we can get s2 units

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>>121764348
>tfw no shura

>>121765239
yea you should be good with hidegard and mikael

>>121764732
Better no EE than shit EEs like dark

>>121765193

Nigga, how is that a good thing? EE for Season 1 units is much more accessible than Season 2 shit. And with the exception of Miho, 3 of WW's season 2 unit is actually sharing the same slot that WW already have good units for.

>>121765525
>3 of WW's season 2 unit is actually sharing the same slot that WW already have good units for.
This. Why the fuck do Shanti, Vivid Fear and Evylin even exist?

God damn I wish they scrapped this shitty season 2 system altogether and just continued working on season 1 EEs. Nobody gives a shit about season 2 units when 90%+ people are never going to get the S2 unit they want, it's such a waste of resources.

So do you guys power up rare 6* stones in hopes that they evolve?

>>121765813
Shanti is cuter than Butt, so it's fine.
Plus she's going to be better once she gets an EE.

>>121765920
Yes. They never do though

>>121765525
so what if they use the same slot? theres more players you can use then rather than being stuck with one

>>121765998
THIS GUYS GETS IT!!!
She's my waifu tho, so, watch your mouth.
SHANTI EE WHEN

>>121765813
>>121766054


>This. Why the fuck do Shanti, Vivid Fear and Evylin even exist?

I wouldn't complain if they're actually better than the units they're supposed to replace. But they aren't, not until they get a really good EE. which lead back to the initial statement, WW EE WHERE?

>>121766054

Why would you use the new S2 WW units without EE when they are not only worse than their S1 counterpart, but objectively uglier too.

>>121765920
I've gotten 2 uniques from evolution so far

>>121766195
shanti looks better than beatrice
vivid looks better than every ww attacker
what are you talking about?
and they'll get an EE eventually, thats the point of adding new character
i swear you WWfags are the whiniest faggots here

>>121766195
>Butt
>looking good

>Miho
>not better looking than any WW besides Nera

>>121766558
>>121766714
>btw I use Sharr

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>>121766558
>Vivid
>Better looking than anything

>>121766714
Miho only looks better than Vivid.

>>121766782
what? how is that even related to what we're talking about

>>121767056
shes cute anon

>>121766558
>vivid looks better than every ww attacker
Vermilion Bird is the best looking ww attacker. No homo.

>>121766558

>and they'll get an EE eventually

And we're waiting...

>>121766714
>Miho
>looking good
Damn, you must be smoking some weird ass shit

>>121733171
Does anyone recommend replacing Eden in backline with Raklet? also for unique got her do they use SC or SHoT? I was thinking shot. I was thinking it was about time to start thinking about replacing Eden but I like that she can sometimes work as a backline penetrator or counterattack on the left side.

Does BB always release only one EE at a time?

>>121764732
WW is the new Dark Hope you suffer for another 5 months WWfags

>>121767145
No she doesn't, vivid is much cuter than a lot of players and Miho

>>121767163
kys

How do we fix Glabaris?

>>121768845
Make it recover atb

>>121767727
Yes. And they did that even before 2 week updates

Dead game.

>>121768845
Give it an action bar recovery primary affect like the penetration stone it evolves from. as of right now the stone it evolves from is outright better than it and there's little to no reason to ever use Glabaris over SHoT

>>121769253
Wow. So, it'll always be 2 EE monthly? That fucking sucks.

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Thanks for the 8 d stones BB

why does every single faggot have isillia now

>>121772916
She's the cutest and best gk.

>>121772916
She's scoutable

>>121772916
>scoutable
>one of the top 3 GKs
>best GK against Sharr
>cute as fuck
>flat
Why do you think everyone has her

>>121773103
>>121773138
>>121773512
what about my nigga KEI

>>121772916
She's a slut

>>121773512
>Isillia
>Top 3 gk

She's top 1 AT BEST

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>>121772916
>Dropped Kei for Isillia as soon as her EE was out
>"lol retarded bronzie thanks for the free win"
>Months later i'm a fucking faggot for using Isillia

>>121773691
4th place for PvP

>tfw beat colo 33 on the first try

Fuck, Kevin Miho Shu is a godly backline and I fuckin love it

>>121773770
>/ssg/ the thread
You had to see it coming. They do this with everything. Just like BT being a mid gk.

>>121774041
>mid BT speculations

Ah, those were some great times.

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>>121772916
>tfw use kei hypermaxed
>tfw yesterday ST'ed a fresh isillia
I'm on board the cancer train

Isillia is still shit, Leventor OHKOs her so easily

>>121774712
Every GK but Isillia is shit
They all get destroyed by Sharr, a non legend :^)

>>121774712
Her pussy is always ready for Leventor, just like how Jin and BT are always ready to Kiss Sharr's heels.

>>121774712
>Not having 2 hypermax full superb GK
You deserve it desu

>>121774712
Not if you have our lord and savior from the mono thunder cancer magnus

>>121774873
>2-shot
>Destroyed

I dont think you know what that word means

>>121774979
But /ssg/ said Sharr one shots everyone but Isillia! /ssg/ wouldn't lie

Who is the best non-legend in the game and why is it Luka?

>>121775357
>reasonshit
>thundershit
Smh Tbh Senpai
Anael is the best non-legend

>>121775495
Anal is on a small fraction of teams, Luka is literally everywhere.

Just to confirm before I invest in BT this week, 1 sp BT > isilia right? I have Silla

>>121775357
any of the four totems yuri,nerua, kiki, mikael any of them are good off color anaels close but should be on color to be effective and so should avenore.

Then you could argue strikers win games so ravian or sharr

Or gks do in which case bt and issila

>>121775782
Sorry 1 sp BT vs 0 sp isilia

>>121775608
>anael
>not everywhere
If we're ralking aboit being the best like that then I'm pretty sure Kiki/Yuri are seen more

>>121775608
Usage does not define quality.

There's very little purpose for using Anael in PvP if she doesn't have an IC because of how slow she is, meanwhile, Luka even without a unique is still good because of AS debuff, 20% crit and the 40% pen active. i.e. Anael is on a small fraction of teams because of how important uniques are

>>121775909
Luka nerfs when?

>>121775782
Overall BT > Isillia

>>121775909
Anael is still great without an IC though, long as she has superbs she'll break through the Line easily and she gives CAR

whats the safest element to roll for when your trying to get uniques from fusing?

>>121776231

light or ardor imo

>>121775909
Luka is easily the best pvp assist in the game due to her totems and ardor slot while Anael can be subbed for a bunch of different units

Not saying Anael is a bad unit, but if we are talking about her job Khriel is pretty much a thousand times better as your backline IC unit.

>>121776231
Light or Ardor, then dark maybe.

>>121776272
>Khriel is pretty much a thousand times better as your backline IC unit.
Stop posting

>>121776127
Even before Sharr nerfs :^)?

>>121776272

Khirel can actually steal the ball with brute force from the enemy?

>>121776272
>khirel
That's funny anon
Anael can only be replaced by Bell, other people can be used in her spot but its not the same
>Luka is the best assist
I wouldn't say that

>>121776597
>I wouldn't say that

Literally name any assist better in pvp anon, I would love to hear it.

>>121775907
>Kiki/Yuri
I hardly ever see Yuri anymore, attackers have all been getting booted from teams lately.

>>121776668
You said she's the best due to her totems, so shes pretty much just a totem, like Silla

>>121776843
>like Silla

Silla doesn't have an Ardor stone slot retard.

>>121776668
Shura EE :^)

>>121776942
That's not what I meant, I meant she's similar to Silla cause of her totem skills

>>121776843
Luka passes for one hell of a lot more, has crit and action speed and more importantly can carry IC.

Silla is just an ace for rainbow teams honestly.

>>121777062
Suddenly one of the best light units is "just an ace" (^:

>>121776843
Luka provides damn near everything, and she has the option of running either SC or IC which more than makes up for her relatively lacking raw pass. And she's damn good at counter attacking

>>121777302
>Suddenly one of the best light units
No one was talking about Beth

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>>121777330
>countering against back lines stacked with CAR

>>121777302
lightball is ove.

>>121777437
He said one of the best units retard

>>121777458
Happens all the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21o0VHJRVMA&feature=youtu.be

People seriously underestimate Luka's AS debuff. 4 person frontlines which focus on damage + have Luka can destroy the shit out of all the opponent's defenders.

All you do is put IC on Luka and EBM on Kevin, Luka will reach 100% AB no matter what if she's at 90% AB (the only time she wouldn't be is if Metatron attacked beforehand and reduced teamwide AB), even against 0 AS stun lines she'd still reach 100% because of the 10% AB gain when a unit receives a pass.

Then you just repeatedly steal because of AS debuff + Kevin's Quick Start. CAR literally doesn't even matter because you just kill everyone instead.

>>121777330
>And she's damn good at counter attacking
1. CAR
2. Silla's reflexes > Luka's reflexes, only Balth and Nera have better reflexes.

>>121777741
And if Kevin suicides? You're assuming the back line will be slow as shit and Luka will be able to get 3+ hits

>>121777846
doesn't Nari?

>>121777846
Silla's reflexes aren't that impressive because she has no reflex totem.
Renee is better too.

>>121777883
Forgot about Nari

>>121778020
>forgetting about the cutest assist after Renee
baka desu senpai

>>121777846
>Silla's reflexes > Luka's reflexes
The reflex that Silla has over Luka is extremely little (5 extra Technique stat), meanwhile Luka has 29 extra Speed, 10 extra Vitality and 8 extra Power

>>121777964
Who cares? the whole point was that Silla's reflexes > Luka's reflexes

>>121777741
>Then you just repeatedly steal because of AS debuff + Kevin's Quick Start. CAR literally doesn't even matter because you just kill everyone instead.
I wish it always worked that way so Kirin can finally take the number 1 PvP striker spot.

>>121778070
>Renee
3* tier artwork

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Before i go, best butt, Beatrice a shit

>>121778571
At least it's not 2* tier artwork (Evylin)

>>121778571
You're 3* tier artwork

>Sharr gets passed the ball
>Sharr actives onto enemy Kei
>Enemy Kei has 2 bars of spirit
>He doesn't block

Ahhh.. It's nice to be rid of that faggot and have Isillia instead now. No more rage.

>>121778571
She's still one of the cutest players, only beaten by Anael and Chitose

>>121778654
Nigger please, i'm 5* material.

>>121778609
Pancake ass

>>121778725
>Anael
>cute

>>121778669

What were they thinking with that shit?

I've lost so many games because my Jin wouldn't just block the fucking Active shot and puts him so low that I pretty much can't recover.

>>121778571
I will fucking fight you.

>>121778725
Good taste.
Renee still better than Chitose though.

>>121778747
>implying Anael doesn't have the best shaped butt
Cause of what you said, you're 1* tier

>>121778763
She is

>>121778809
They're pretty close, Chitose is just too fucking cute

PvP season ends soon, can't wait for the Sharr nerfs

I wish the pedos would leave

I wish the snowballfags would kill themselves

i wish i could swap to uriel

>>121778926
You are in for a long wait then because they arent going to nerf shit, not with her essentially being their mascot at this point. I'd personally Rather BB gets off its ass and gives every element a viable GK instead of trying to split them between two elements exclusively.

>>121778926

When PvP Season ends, no one will give a fuck. I don't even care now. Already made it to Champ's league for my free 5* Littre by dropping my Hypermaxed Beat/Nera/Kiki line and just replaced it with Ravian(EoG)/Jeunese/Sammy(IC). Neither of them have a single superb and only Ravian is ST'd them and I just let the rest of my team carry the ball to them.

PvP is a fucking joke until they do something about her.

>drop 4K TA
>casually cruise into Champ's League AKA Bronze+++
>muh balanced strikers

>>121779349
My cancer beats your cancer
Jury Jeunese Ravian

>>121779349
Post team and rank. I refuse to believe you.

>>121779349
People have used Beatrice to reach Galaxy League m8, it wasn't your frontline which was preventing you from reaching champion/galaxy league.

>>121779697
>1% defines the rest 99%

You know that less than 1% of Ravian/Sharr users also haven't reached champions league or galaxy league, right?

>>121779697
You need a SHoT and some decent ghost stats or a crit totem for Beatrice to pull that off.

For Ravian you need little to no investment.

>>121779697

It was my front line, trust me.

My uniques were Essence of Greed (useless for Beatrice, great for Ravian) and Ignition (useless for my frontline, great for Sammy). All my efforts to make a SHoT have ended in tears (Literally).

The cancer was calling to me, and eventually I got all the players needed for it.

>>121779629

I don't have my phone with me, but my lines are

Sammy/Jeunese/Ravian
Khirel/Metatron/Linmay
Silk/Yuri/Kiki/Nerua (or Magnus depending on their element)
Jin GK

>>121780138
I was switching between Glab and FTS on my Beatrice when I hit galaxy last season

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Do your dailies!

>>121780768

>free 1600 GP

explode

>>121780861
Free superb too. I came when I saw it.

>>121780250
I hate this frontline so much.

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>>121781365

I think it's hilarious that no matter how much they kill Ravian, Sammy makes everything all better.

>>121767661
anybody

So my Nerua shosho will currently have 2 sups/st on it, assuming I don't find anymore in scouts before recall ends.
I can give it to Silk so she can be 5/5/0/5 and replace Nerua as my standard crit totem, or I can give it to Miho and she can be 5/5/5/0 and be a bomb ass healer in colo and decent totem in PvP.
I'm torn.

>>121780768
I got an isillia from my daily yesterday who I then used as ST material

>>121782129
You should be able to answer this yourself, if you really dont know then flip a damn coin

Did something happen to Nerua in the last couple of days besides the change to Oath?

Everyone was bashing on everyone who said they were trading her in because she was still a decent totem, but now it seems like everyone is trading her in?

>>121782408
Just the general being retarded as usual, nothing new

>>121782408
Trading her in but kept a copy as a totem to take balls in the face.

>>121782408
She's just a crit/car totem now, so there are other totems that do more.
She's basically on the same boat as magnus, decent totem, but others have more, so they just get subbed in when against the right element striker.
A situational totem like that doesn't need the amount of sups some people have on her.

>>121782408
She is still decent. But she is season1 player so you can scout her again, and there's not much of a point keeping her with superbs when her important totems can be maxed without those. Meanwhile recalling gives you gp and what is basically free littres.

>>121782408

People who have superbs on Nerua and are not monothunder are trading her in while keeping one copy so they can superb more important units. Nerua still does her job well with 0 spu so there's no real need to keep those superbs on her.

>>121782408
For me it doesn't matter how good she is or how insignificant the nerf was, trading a mspu Nerua effectively returns 5 litres with the only limitation being that it can't be used on a legendary, however, it can still be used on season 2 units (much harder to get dupes of because unscoutable, hence why it doesn't matter that Nerua is still good because season 1 > season 2 litre conversion is a godsend).

>>121782508
>>121782519
>>121782561
>>121782562
>>121782654
>>121782583

Whoa, how informative.

I have a superb on my Nerua, so it sounds like it's worth it for me to release the superb with a Rainbow elemental and trade it in for sweet GP.

Thanks dudes.

>>121782739
>so it sounds like it's worth it for me to release the superb with a Rainbow elemental and trade it in for sweet GP.
That sounds pretty stupid. Nerua is still a great unit, meaning that it'll be worth it to scout back the dupes for her (1600 GP each) over time. Not much gain in recalling a 0/5 sup Nerua just for 1600 GP unless you really need it.

>>121782739

I'd wait until the last day before recalling her on the offchance that you end up with another Nerua from free draw or daily for an extra superb on the sho sho.

Though Jury is a slut and a whore and thundersluts need as hard a nerf as the dickings they take, it's nice having a stamina sink that doesn't feel like a waste of time.
Why can't it be thunder minion week every week?

>>121782129
I have a max super bed Silk. Even with ~120 action speed, she will still occasionally fail to move first because of random fucking starting bar and Meta/Beth lines, 80+ action speed frontlines where there isn't enough time for the speed difference to catch up to innate action bonus from pass + random starting bar, and IC assists. It's extremely hard to get enough spirit to use it before you get shot once and a lot of the times you will just waste 1.5 bars because you've already gotten shot and she uses it after the fact. Now you're spirit starved for front line combo and the next shot will kill you anyways. This is if you use her in the backline.

In the mid line, she will pretty much always act first because it's rare that a mid line will break 100+ action speed so she has a better chance of activating it before it hits your back line. The problem is still generating 1.5 bars of spirit to use while still having spirit available to your frontline or on the first counter push by the enemy.

Personally, I have her at 3/5/5/5. Don't underestimate Faint of Heart. Healing 25% every 3 mins will allow her to keep Narcissism up the majority of the time and mess with the AI when trading damage with the card in front of her(in different situations depending on the unit type. ie: leaders from stealing/penetrating, attackers from stealing, defenders from penetrating when they check for HP differences).

>>121733171
Sharr>Ravian>Leventor>Blade(because of Isillia everywhere)>Beatrice>Hiro=Shanti>Your striker is shit

>>121784152
I beg to differ. Silk works perfectly fine in the backline. And the spirit bar is never wasted even if she doesn't go first because it buffs the whole team and this works especially well with tanky mids.

Plus She syncs really well with BT if she doesn't go first because odds are her action bar will be much more filled than the other's meaning she's guaranteed to get BT's active pass tier pass meaning she can charge her way through whoever is in front of her.

She's also really great even if you dont have enough spirit to use her active even if she goes first. She will pen through most time and use her active in mid so that if the ball does get back to your backline you will have a max action bar silk with 2k reflexes ready and waiting to steal from whatever poor soul is in front of her.

5/5/3/5 is the absolute perfect build for her in pvp. It lets her do so much and lets her synergize so well with BT and the entire team that its far to good to pass up.

>Lucy superb in scout

FUCK

Superbing her isn't worth it if my team isn't fully superbed is it?

>>121784152
You make a compelling argument for Miho. Although, that makes me think a Miho/Silk combo would be pretty great if Miho manages to go first.
I have MetaBeth mid as well, so as isn't usually a problem.
Also might get IC for Anael soon.
Eventually I want to combo Anael/Miho/Silk/X
X being whoever subs in or Raklet/Kiki.

Silk then provides reflex/cr for the line, Miho provides health/reflex for Anael and Isillia while stealing spirit for silk, then Raklet is more health and cr. Or just Kiki for more health, but I feel like health isn't good enough of a totem on its own and Anael does better at stealing/penetrating.

>>121784276
wheres vitos

>>121785078
EBM

>>121785078
BLAZE IT

>>121785112
Hiro/Shanti tier

>>121784909
It is worth it. You're going to have scout dupes or use 5* litres for her sooner or later, it's far better to take every opportunity you can get for scouting dupes so that you can save litres for when you really need them (legendaries, good season 2 units and essential season 1 units).

>>121784909
If all you need for your team is superbs, then I'd pick up a Lucy superb. Think about it, a Lucy superb is going to give your whole team 66 in stat points. A single superb on one of your players is going to be roughly the same amount, but that's assuming you'll scout them. Might as well pick up the Lucy superb now.

>>121785112
I assume Vitos is great after his buffs but nobody as far as I can see is using him in PVP, that and Isillia being fucking everywhere probably hurts him, hiro tier. on that same note Lucid would be right below as she still has high crit rate and has some build in pen but again she's Dark and may as well not have a 2nd passive due to AI

>>121785015
If you're using isillia then you'd want as much flat CR as possible A nerua instead of the miho would work better since she stacks with anael's CAR and you need an attacker for reliably breaking out of mid when IC anael cant get the job done so mikeal would be a good fit.

But if you're going to use silk then you need to use kiki because silk needs the speed. Then again you have meta-beth which throws everything off to the point where I dont even know what to tell you anymore.

>>121785328
Penetrating mid is not an issue for me. I don't like attackers, they go retard too often, which is why I don't use Yuri too often.
I'm not going to use male characters either, so Mikael is a no.
Miho provides spirit for the line, which you said is an issue, as well as reflex with lessens the need for car. Health is more valuable than what Nerua has to offer in my opinion.

That's just my end game plan, I just want to know what would be more immediately beneficial, but I'm leaning toward miho now, even aside from s2 unit. So that's probably what I'm going to go with, thanks for the thoughts.

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>>121785143
>>121785197

>>121785858
Explode.

>>121785649
That wasn't me. Im of the firm belief that spirit is never actually a problem with silk on the line since it doesn't really matter when she uses it and will most likely use it after the first shot. I dont see miho realistically moving before silk and getting her any spirit for her active. But then again >meta-beth changes the game to the point where I'd need to shift to a completely different mindset to even begin to give you proper teambuilding advice. And even then I still wouldn't be able to completely help you out since I dont have them.

Plus you're using isillia and not BT which further changes things up. What I will tell you though is that silk's active will go off and whether its before the first shot or after the first shot it doesn't really matter much. I've never really needed to feed my silk spirit and i've never had problems with my front line due to silk using her active. Take that as you will

>>121786004
Definitely sounds like Miho will be more reliable to invest in, and Silk is an investment that can wait for dupes I find.
I still think even without her active she'll be pretty good if she goes before they do.
Free 15% cr and reflex to the line is decent as is. If she adds another 40-55% after the first shot, that's even better.
I usually have around 1.5 bars by the time the ball gets to the backline anyway if it doesn't make it front first.

>Mikael with 20hp penetrates enemy GK with 1k+ hp
several times in the last two days. Quality AI scripting.

>>121786593
Reasons I don't use attackers.

>>121786654
Leaders are worse because
>Ravian

>>121787034
Defenders are the key.

>tfw 4 leaders in team
>tfw have IC, speed buff/debuff to dictate flow of every match

feels good man

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>>121784721
I'm not really saying she isn't good for the backline. I'm just saying that these are some of the situations that are going to occur. She's absolutely great in the backline...when things go right. When things go wrong, they go so wrong. None of your combos line up because the spirit wasn't there when it was needed most so it's like handing the enemy the ball with a normal shot and now you're at a disadvantaged GK HP trade.

The amount of times that I would have won if I had the spirit she just used a moment ago for an active pass or shot raises my blood pressure. And that 40% CR didn't even help against the final shot.

>win tournament
>+1
>win tournament
>+2
>win tournament
>+1
>lose tournament at the final stage
>-6
What a waste all that effort was