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HAWKER PRIDE Edition

>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Fan created skins, missions, locations (and memes) etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsABPzkAKo6WXwBoWkdTK_-o5jGzBlcpU

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>Vg chatroom:
Type " /join vg " into chatbox

>Teamspeak Address you can use:
ts.gonnahate.org

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>Guide to making your own inexpensive head tracker:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/how-tos/how_build_your_own_ir_head_tracker

>Previous thread >>121651242
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first for bombing gaijin hq
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anime ja nai
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first for remove pedos
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>>121726818

American tanks were intentionally incredibly overpowered because you had to buy a pack to unlock everything after era I.

The Sherman 105 was at a "balanced" BR that was "coincidentally" slightly out of reach of non-payers, but close enough for them to see them shitting on everything in games. It was left like this for about a week to get buyers, then they moved it up to the point of uselessness.

Shermans were all undertiered and obliterated everything. Chaffee was a rally car. Jumbo was almost impenetrable from the front, and could sit on hills just taking shots endlessly to farm huge amounts of XP.

They eventually unlocked everything and made them somewhat comparable to Soviets. Then introduced TDs with fucking ridiculous BRs. Hellcats could frontally penetrate everything they faced, while also having ridiculous mobility, bouncing everything because muh angles, and being "overpenetrated" by absolutely everything so anything that it faced had to aim directly at each crew member to kill it. M10 was undertiered - it was at the same BR as the Pz IV F2, but superior in every way aside from turret traverse. Also had ridiculous survivability. Both had superior reload rate to now, on top of all this.

Then they changed the penetration mechanics, and gradually started shitting on Americans because Soviet bias suddenly became imperative.

I expect them to do the same with British tanks. Achilles is a sign of things to come.

If you genuinely believe American tanks were balanced, you're completely delusional.
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>>121730254

first for dead game.
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>landing seafire for the first time
>landing flaps
>RETRACT FLAPS
>it's fine
>left flap rips off
>plane flips sideways
>right wing hits ground hard
>prop hits ground
>30sec repair time
)))))))
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Has anyone seen teabohr? Is he kill?

http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/user/354082-teabohr/
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>>121730551
>Hellcats could frontally penetrate everything they faced,

Aww, your tigger got penned by a hellcat, I'm so sorry :(
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>>121730507
sho ga nai wanai
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>>121730649
why the fuck did you deploy landing flaps before touching down
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>>121730814
youre not supposed to?
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nth for FO4 TORRENT WHEN
Also trap footjobs.
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>>121730814
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Is there any reason to get the Panzer 4J other than for fun or because you really hate having a practical rate of turret traverse?

>Kv-2 has the same rate of turret traverse
doubt.jpg
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HAWKER PRIDE WORLD WIDE
GAS THE SPITFIRES
WORLD WAR NOW
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>>121730551
>shermans undertiered
>still same BRs

>Jumbo inpenetrable
>no one aimed for the MG port
gee wow

>M10 superior in every way
>no armor
>turret speed
>guns are about the same
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Did I do well here guys? Or did I just get lucky. I feel very proud of myself for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrkZ11HrBR4
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>Fly any plane
>Yak3s up the ass absolutely everywhere
>Doing literally anything except flying straight is a net disadvantage to you

>Gaijin will never fix the fucking yaks and their bullshit energy retention
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>>121730685
HE DED
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>>121730930
You are,ignore him. Just look around the cockpit,most planes have the "flap deploy" speed limit listed somewhere. In case of british plane look for "flippity flappity land-me deployity"
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>>121731205
>lightweight planes with insane powerful engines
>small and manueverable
>good aerodynamics and great solid armament
>WAH WHY DOES IT SHOOT DOWN MY SHITTY NAZI PLANE
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>>121730930
put your flaps up when you actually land.
on the ground they give you lift and make you bounce.
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HAWKER
PRIDE
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>>121731552
)))))
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>>121731552
>doing 650km/h
>perform a hard inverted loop anf gain 1,000m of altitude
>now doing 649kmh
realism )))
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>>121731205
Fly P-47, club Yak-3 all day.
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>>121731205
Nazis had standing orders not to engage Yak3s below 4000m.

Which is where 95% of Warthunder takes place.

As far as balance goes it sucks monkey nuts.
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>>121731552
I found nabutso
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>>121731061
No, other than for spading it. It's not half bad, but H is better in every way. I mainly used it as a turrets tank destroyer, it's ok when you use it like that and make ambushes and shit with it
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>>121731818
I found faggot
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>>121731190
>>121730754
>being surprised at wehraboos being shit at the game

They're literally the US teams for ground forces. They see the shiny Tiger tank, likely the only tank they even know about from WW2, and latch onto Germany with zero skill.
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>>121731871
ok fuckboi
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>>121731801
>>121731739
>>121731723
>>121731645

It's a plane as light as a fucking zero, what part of that is hard to understand you tards. Ofc it's going to have exceptional acceleration and energy retention, that doesn't make it OP, it just either makes you a shit pilot or the plane undertiered.
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>>121732040
imagine what those toys have seen
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>>121732095
oh fuck off nabutso
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>>121732095
Why are you quoting me you nigger? P-47 clubs zeroes too if that matters.
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>Berlin RB
>last 2 planes on team, both of us fucked up and out of ammo, 2 slavs somewhere out there
>spitfire comes into land at 2nd airfielld
>touches down at ~200, flips over instantly
>follow behind him in typhoon
>touch down at same speed
>gear explodes underneath me, plane spins out
>lose while repairing

is this supposed to happen
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comfy
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>>121732236
literally who
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Nth for only racists use German tech. :^)
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>>121732095
>that doesn't make it OP, it just either makes you a shit pilot or the plane undertiered.

undertiered = OP
Not too hard to understand.
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>>121732316
>both landing at the same time without trying to cover each others landings with enemies still left

Deserved it. Game telling you that you're shit.
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>>121732316
Repairing/Rearming at the same time is just stupid anyways.

Even if you're out of ammo one guy should fly cover to try and distract anyone who even thinks about coming in and shitting on planes on the runway.
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>>121732316
if both of you land at the same time you by tickets you double brit
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>>121732095
Well, the good thing about the Yak-3's HIGH PERFORMANCE speed retention is that when they dive on you they can't stop themselves from overshooting to literally save their lives.
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>>121732362
>nabutso pops chaffes
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>>121732881
What does that name have to do with yak-3s you fucking tard.

>Durrrr my only defense is to throw out forum memes
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>>121732881
Chaffes isn't a word you illiterate moron.
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>>121732095
>It's a plane as light as a fucking zero
>A zero doesn't behave like a yak despite having similar horsepower
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>>121731665
>being mad
>getting told the truth and trying to meme about it
What is cute is the fact you think I'm mad, while in reality it's you salty fat cunts that can't stop sperging for the last 9 months or so about the shitty 76mm getting nerfed only because Germans cried about it. It took them over a year to fix the Panther's gun and yet for some reason burgers think they should have a privilege of everything being changed to their preferences the second they cry about it. Make the bug report with historical evidence and fuck off already, I only got to the 76mm when it was already nerfed and didn't have a problem getting to tier 5 where US dominates, but hand holding is a must for the burgers apparently
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>>121733378
>>>/gulag/
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Is there any reason to play any other tank except T-34 1941/42 ?
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>>121733378
>similar horsepower
>350hp less than the Yak 3

Thanks for playing anon, now leave.
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>>121733461
remain upset whinewaffe

maybe learn to play while you're at it.
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>>121732040
Hey I have the same one that's on the right, no way!
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>>121731934

>my 95% win rate was all skill

I don't know if you didn't play the game at this time, or if you're actually this delusional.

Do you think Soviets are balanced now?
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>>121732881
>>nabutso pops chaffes

"here is the literal term for chaffe which is a rash induced my skin rubbing skin generally in the area of the crotch and or buttocks"
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>>121733843
>skill has anything to do with the entire german team ignoring the objective and getting flanked

do continue anon : ^ )
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>>121733501
No, why would you want to lose the void shields that are behind the armor?
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>tfw Skilldogs get caught using ULQ and APDS in 5.7 matches
Fucking niggers
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>>121733843
German shits are so bad you don't need skill to beat them.
It's like burger pilots, a toddler could beat them.
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>>121733763
>tier 5 in all nations, including US like I mentioned twice already
>whinewaffe
ok guy, nice reading comprehension
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>>121733991

>getting flanked

Read: Hellcats occupying the entire map before anyone else is even out of the spawn and frontally penetrating everything they see while surviving 5 penetrating Tiger/Panther shells in return, not counting all the ones they angle bounced then shooting anything that respawns immediately
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First for cute planes.
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>>121734148
I'm saying whinewaffe because you're whining from the German perspective.

Maybe you might be more at home over here? www.reddit.com/r/warthunder
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>R-r-russian bias!!!!!
>O-only Russian tanks are good, they're OP!!!
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>>121734269
>hellcats
>surviving penetration
>let alone bouncing

Not sure what game you've been playing, Hellcats have worse armor than Tier 1 tanks, I've never failed to cripple a hellcat's crew with a shot that's anywhere near its center mass.
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Reinder that Hakurei is a slut who sucks dicks for money.
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>>121734269
>more whinewaffe

So remember when the Germans whined so hard that almost every fast tank got nerfed?

Watching those same people months later whine about how slow the leopard 1 was really made up for it : ^)
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So is the M46 better with the new heat ammo? Also, how do I play the M46?
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everytime i start the game it says i am on the dev server, and i get booted off, I can't launch the game. Anyone know what the fuck i can do to fix this?
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>>121734532
FUCKING LEAVE HELMET
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>>121734697
Yes

Flank for days, you have practically no hull armour and mediocre mantlet armour. Your tank is fast and agile with good depression, use that to get into firing positions on enemy flanks quickly and rek em all with that 90mm.
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>>121734782
literally who
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>>121734865
LITERALLY YOU
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>>121734743
Go to your warthunder file, delete matchingdevmode file and your config file, restart launcher.
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>>121734583

I am talking about when they were introduced and fuses didn't activate on their armour, the angle bounce was even worse, and there was no spalling at all. They took no damage aside from direct hits to modules and crew. Shells would often go through without doing anything at all.

The only real counter to them was SPAA, because the sheer volume of fire would cancel out all the randomness and need for extreme precision.
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>>121734840
Alright, thanks. I got lucky and won a talisman for this thing on my first mission. Haven't been able to do anything with it though.
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>>121734414
Glad to see you visit that subreddit too and that you picked up the classical memes like calling everyone who isn't a US player a whinewaffle. Perhaps you should go on google to see what Luftwaffe is and that it wasn't really about tanks, which is what we are talking about. But considering the fact you're shit with the US 76, using brains to realize what the origin of the meme's name is not really to be expected out of you in the first place

Here's to (you) https://youtu.be/D7aHOsxFP4w
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>>121734947
Actually I'm Helmet

I don't even play tanks lmao
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>>121735205
Monkey sounds is reserved only for Hawker™
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>>121735223
>I d-don't even play tanks
that's why you have 3 pages of them in the arcade tab and half a page in the RB one. Yeah, you aren't playing them alright

>>121735397
BUT CLs ARE CATCHING UP TO ME
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>>121732582

I came in to land AFTER he crashed out, you dumbass
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>hokkaido, as usual
>ends up with most of the bongs raped due the G lock meme
>2 spits remaining, one of them is a griffon
>sideclimb to 6k because I've seen them climbing again
>get above them
>they dive towards their airfield
>they wont go out of there
>dive to 4k to check on them, +600km/h
>AA damages my right wing, I know where this is going
>decide to dive on them with a teammate
>AA facerapes him, he's a fireball
>try to get out of there
>AA gets my radiator, damages other parts, wont make it back to the base
>end up picked up by the griffon because I cant do shit anymore due the damage
Im getting tired of this bullshit
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>>121735223
Helmet I have a request for you I hope you will consider it

Stop posting
uninstall war thunder
never come back
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>>121735647
Don't fly to enemy AF. Fly to friendly AF.
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>Muh honour

I fucking hate these people, reminder to terminate them with extreme prejudice
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>>121731552
>WAH WHY DOES IT SHOOT DOWN MY SHITTY NAZI PLANE

because it's a late 1943 fighting German planes from 1941-42
yak3 would be fine if they where at 5.3 fighting G10/14
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>>121735647
base AAA got a buff recently, it consistently rapes in the first few seconds. Last night I won a game in the TBD alone against 3 slavs by baiting them into my AAA.
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>>121735850
What kinda nigga lands and quits if he gets critted?
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>Inna AD-2
>2 Spitshitters dive from 2km on me
>Evade
>They turn after the dive to get on me and instead crash because control loss
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http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/277047-assault-fuse/page-2#entry5400746

Pacifica is at it again
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>>121736020
A real human bean apparently
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>>121736124
>undertiered premium Ki-61 clubber is reading up to shit on my unupgraded E-4 from orbit
>I go into a vertical barrel roll
>he tries to follow
>no wings meme
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>>121735906
See, I don't disagree with this, the 3p is undertiered as a motherfucker.

But I have a problem with all the motherfuckers saying it's FM is UFO without even considering the power and weight of the fucking aircraft. Seriously, these niggas probably know the exact boost pressure of their precious Ta-152 at 5000m for the most performance but can't be bothered researching WHY an enemy aircraft can do what it does.
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>>121736315
Undertiered as a motherfucker? The 3p is like 4.7. 5.0 is the most it could be tiered reasonably.

The Spit XIVe shits on it so hard. As does G-10, G-14, K-4, G-6, etc. G-2 is slightly challenging.
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>>121736201
NO ONE CARES, FUCK OFF BACK TO LEDDIT.
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>>121736020

I do it if there's no chance for a victory after I'mr epaired
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post cutest tanks
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>>121736015
For what purpose? We dont need faggots hiding in the AF.
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>>121736487
>ugly russian half boat
>qt
FAGGOT
A
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G
O
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So can I enjoy this without paying? I dropped this game since last year and haven't touched it since, is it balanced for free players?
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>>121736487
but you posted a picture of a motorboat with treads.
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Reminder that Emil a best.
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>>121736651
Dunno, what the fuck would you pay for? Except muh premium grind planes.
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>>121736124
ok [QT508]PunPun
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>tfw wingman
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>>121736651

National imbalance exceeds pay/free imbalance by far.
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>>121724760

I called him an idiot back then. [spiler]fuck do I feel like the retard now[/spoiler]
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>>121736651
Still pretty much on the same footing as premium players, skill still matters far more than premium planes or vehicles.

Only thing that could be argued is crew skills, but only retards argue that crew skills is p2w
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>>121736315
no there's definitely something fishy with the yaks
they are extremely stable in all condition with almost no engine torque + they can fly without wing-tips where almost all other plane crash

if you fly all plane in game with a joystick you cannot deny how easy it is to fly yaks especially in hard manoeuvre where most other fight become unstable
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>>121736487
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>>121736958
The yak 3 was literally considered the best dogfighter of WW2. MAYBE, just fucking MAYBE, that was for a good reason, don't you think?
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>>121736458
the yak 3 is 4.0 in AB+ and 4.3 in SB
the 3p is from 1945 ...
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>>121736958
The Yak-3 barely has any engine power you know. It has just a little bit more engine power than Bf 109 E-4.
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>>121737142
Because it could time travel?
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>fly 262 on Berlin
>both teams are dead except for me and an enemy Meteor
>land, re-arm and repair, take off
>where is this fag
>fly to enemy AF
>he shows up on radar at 5.67km, landing
>good night everybody
>AAA is firing but missing due to my speed
>1.20km, about to fire
>BAM
>You were shot down by AAA
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>russians
>aware of their surroundings

Their bullshit tanks are the only things they have going for them, retarded slavaboos a shit.
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>>121737142
>he yak 3 was literally considered the best dogfighter of WW2

This is a new level of shitpost
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>>121737142
Next you're going to tell us that the USSR beat evil Germany all by itself.
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ADEN
D
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>>121737334>>121737376
>Yak 3
>3
>first flight 1941

Gud laff moron. The Luftwaffe were so scared of the thing when they first engaged it that they gave pilots explicit orders to never engage the things sub-5000m.
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>>121736487
>posts a boat

Well done!
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>>121737650
We get it
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>>121737691
>first flight is same as introduction date
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>>121737589
>>121737541
>>121737376
>It was one of the smallest and lightest major combat fighters fielded by any combatant during the war, and its high power-to-weight ratio gave it excellent performance. It proved a formidable dogfighter. Marcel Albert, World War II French ace, who flew the Yak in USSR with the Normandie-Niémen Group, considered it a superior aircraft to the P-51D Mustang and the Supermarine Spitfire

A brisk read of wikipedia is literally all it takes guys. At least try if you're gonna be calling it a shitpost.
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>>121737865
ok Nope123
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>>121737334
Yak-3 isn't Yak-3P. Yes, yak-3 is undertiered. It could easily sit at 4.7. It's the same fuckin plane as Yak-3P, but with shittier armament.
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>>121737691
yak 3 in 1941
yeah and 262 is from 1942 am i rite guys

first flight =/= put into service
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>>121737691
>introduction: summer 1944
Today I learned that when a prototype aircraft has it's first flight, upon landing it spontaneously multiplies into thousands, complete with pilots, trained mechanics and magically teleported to their bases.
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>>121737691
>what is the introduction date
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>>121737691

>Introduced summer 1944

this is a very good meme.
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>being this obsessed with date of introduction
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>>121730685
Who is teabohr?
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>>121738042
>>121738041
>>121738010
>>121737892
>>121738048
Yes, the Luftwaffe were giving out orders about an aircraft that didn't exist, definitely.

Aside from the fact that I'm retarded and can't read dates, this doesn't change the fact it was one of the best dogfighters of WW2 : ^)
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>>121737691
>first flight

Now this is ascended shitposting.

You gonna tell us about those swarms of BF-109s in 1935 then?
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>>121737920
>this one french guy said it was the best
Well, that settles that.

Reminder that while Germans were ordered not to fight below 4000m, Russians likewise were ordered not to fight above it.
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>>121737524
>allied team awareness
I couldn't believe this shit
t. allied player
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>>121737524

no fucking shit, have you met russian pilots?

Fuckers rip wings and crash into mountains more frequently than they get kills, i swear the "vodka vodka" thing is more reality than meme
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>>121738237

>Luftwaffe weren't giving orders in the Summer of 1944, when the Yak 3 was introduced.

Fantastic meme my friend.
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>>121737920
>French
>D.520 was the best fighter of the war
>Yak-3 was good

French and slav defense force is out in force
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>>121735789
Are you the same guy that said yesterday that for the last time, he should fuck off? Because if you are, why didn't you do what you said and stopped sperging about it already. If you can't deal with him, ignore him, but you cunts whining about him is 10 times more annoying that any of the shit he's pulling
>>
>>121738340
top kek that KV-2
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>>121738237
>one of the
So you've already moved the goal post.

And
>Aircraft performance below 4000 meters is the only thing to consider
>High alt combat does not exist
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>>121738468
>>121738376
>>121738270
>>121738267
>russian aircraft literally cannot be good

wew

racist
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>>121738340
How
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Is there no way to increase my FoV in tanks?

Playing on a triple monitor setup and it feels completely fucking off.
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>>121738213
tibor is ded
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>>121734026
>translaters note

I wasnt looking at my flanks while I sat 10 meters out of spawn and some nasty troles shot me (((
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Guys the He-280 is a 1940 plane

When will they introduce it at 3.0?
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>>121738237
They were giving out those orders about Yak-9, not Ya-3, you idiot, at least listen when watching that shit on History Channel
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>>121738716
>yak-3
>Japanese tier engines
>heavy

No, it can't be good.
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>>121738584
ok Helmetpotato
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>>121738716
>Literally only one post that could even be interpreted as it not being good thanks to implied sarcasm
Merely pretending, right?

Fuck this gradeschool playground fuckery, post planefus
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>>121738878
Was actually at the opposite end of the map.
But keep sucking that post war dick faggot.
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>>121738679
No I realised that arguing it's "the" best is not going to get anywhere, everyone has their own favourites.

Genuinely curious tho, what "high alt combat" existed outside of bomber interceptions? Not shitposting, want to know.
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>>121738897
as long it can only fight above 400 meters
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>>121739031
>Japanese tier engine
>Light as a zero
>350hp more

We already went over this.
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>there are people who unironically use German tanks
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>Doing good in super skillcat, pulling 2-4 kills a game
>next day suddenly start doing terrible
why does this happen, same thing with my tiger,the more I play a tank the worse I get with it over time
fuck
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>there are people who unironically use German planes
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post migs btfo
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How long does it take to fix this so called "suspension issue" for British tanks. This stinks of jewry to me.
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>>121739031
>2.6 tons
>heavy
What a riveting tale. I guess the A6M is a heavy fighter too.
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>>121739658

Here, friend.

>>121731601

Damn shame it was just a piltosnipe.
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>>121739693
Already tried telling him, apparently anything heavier than a sneeze deserves two engines and a bomb loadout
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>>121739658
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German Tier 5 player here.

Unlocked the Maus, was please with how good the tank is considering how shit the 105mm Tiger is.

Now, I unlocked the Leopard 1. Should I just use the Leopard for realistic battles?

Like any tips for it or am I just a Walker Bulldog with post-war ammunition?
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>>121739129
So? Can happen if it's from the side. Maybe you should justgit gud.
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>>121739652
Why would they not?

Some of them are amongst the best ones in-game.
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>>121739987
>>121739658
You guys just reminded me my Mig-15bis is talismaned now.

I should probably try flying it.
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>>121739658
this one BTFO himself
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>>121739693
>>121739332

Yak-3 main production model
>Empty weight: 2,105 kg (4,640 lb)
>Loaded weight: 2,692 kg (5,864 lb)
>1,300 hp

A6M8
> Weight 2150 kg
> 1,560 hp

Damn, I though the slavs are stupid is a meme

But damn, you slavs are stupid
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>>121740058
>Get sniped through two copses of trees and copious amount of static bushes
>Git gud
I'll get right on lowering my settings to that of CoD 2 massa!
>>
Post TRAX for PLONS

https://youtu.be/rrVDATvUitA

VK-103
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>>121740346
>A6M8
>2 made
spotted the weaboo
>>
>Nazimig
>Venom on my tail
>keeps up with me in dives
>keeps up in zoom climb
>turns better
>rolls better

Venoms are fucking scary
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>>121740346
>comparing production model to a completely prototype plane
>conveniently used the unloaded weight for the zero

Jolly ho son that's some superb goalpost moving! You'll make a good shitposter one day.
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>>121740346
>A6M8
>>
>>121740346
>A6M8

Where's the A6M8 in game? Oh that's right. It doesn't exist.
>>
The poll to change RB tank sights to historical placement on tanks had 90 percent votes on English forum, and the Russian forum had around 50 percent votes, so they kept the arcade sights.

God damn Russians are one of the reasons they're pushing arcade changes so much and ruining other modes
>>
>>121740346
> Weight 2150 kg
That's the empty weight though.
Loaded weight is probably a fair bit heavier, but the Zero had quite an enormous fuel capacity for its size/weight and specific fuel consumption is probably the same so with the same service range they're probably the same weight

The radial in the A6M8 had great power/weight
>>
>>121740393

Yak-9UT with 45mm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt3I8aEyHkc

Wait for OPA part
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>>121740034
use the leo
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So i have the second F-86 and im just not starting to grind to CL-13 but have recently swtiched to grinding for the F2Hs and the F9F. Are they any better or worse than the F-86s, whats the difference?
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Is RB planes still got that ridiculous "climb to space for the first 20 mins" mentality?

If so, I reckon I'll just dust off my joystick and stick to SB.

Pic unrelated.
>>
http://strawpoll.me/5958825
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>>121741356
it is in T4, not so much on T3 and below
fuck jets
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>>121740938
..but the average of 90% approval and 50% approval is 70%.
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Man I sure love watching all those Hunters die like fucking retards and leaving me to dance with 5 Sabres at the same time
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>>121741356
Just first 5 minutes
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>>121741238
F2H clubs lower tier jets from what I hear.

My last experience with the Panthers was shit energy retention, shit overheating and generally getting shit on by the actual competitive jets.
>>
>>121741238

They are wose than the F-86 in everything except guns.

The F9F is a legit hard to use plane.
>>
Comment new Serbian rap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3isMqbEfFk
>>
To the JG508 player who was in my game who left as soon as he died. Don't be too hard on yourself! You'll do better next time. I believe in you.

Love

-QT508-chan

p.s. We won the game after you left, two of them were left and I killed one returning to the airfield and the other just as it was taking off. I avenged you JG-kun!
>>
Is an 1548lbs torpedo enough for a destroyer?
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>>121741947

It sure isn't enough for your mom.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk2CXw47qhI

>Gaijin lied

wew what a shock
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>>121742049
I was gonna say "just drop your mom on the destroyer" but this works too.
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>>121742049
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>>121741932
You better track that JGfag down and suck his dick if you're gonna post shit like that, anon.
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>>121741932
daily reminder QT is literally gay for posting naked (male) pictures of themselves with cum in their shorts and getting off on being humiliated by JG members.
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>>121742178
Did he use IAS instead of TAS again?

Magz is nice and all, but fuck he can be retarded and not do his research.
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>>121742329
Not seeing a problem there anon.
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>>121742049
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>>121742398
It clearly says IAS on his screen.
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>>121742178
>>121742398
Who would've guessed, he got the wrong engine.

I'd also like to add that apparently the Hunter gets incredible bonuses from upgrades, more than any aircraft.
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>>121742687
That's because it's sub-meteor f4 in all but eventual top speed while stock.
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>>121742178
>The plane doesn't perform well when stock

SHOCKING NEWS, MORE AT 11
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>>121740393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsgj0rFUOC4
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>>121742990
[muffled "It Ain't Me" in the distance]
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>>121742329
pics?
>>
So I guess once I unlock the Hunter I'm gonna have to buy the upgrades with shekels, right?

I mean I'm used to flying garbage planes against MiGs and Canadairs, after all the F9F is my most flown plane, but I don't feel like suffering more
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>HAF_Pilot loudly shitposting on YouTube
When will we kill "her"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWS5EP-9qg0
>>
>>121741579
I played yesterday against a guy named _swordsman

so I typed the usual greeting
>ok swordsman

turned out it was some random shit
>>
>>121742178
>I'm sure he rammed me to get himself on youtube
fucking salty cunt, you deployed the fucking airbrakes and was losing speed before that already, the fuck were you expecting to happen
>>
Why is the XP-50 worse than the vast, vast, vast majority of the planes in the game at more or less everything?

It climbs at a mediocre pace, has terrible maneuverability, a mediocre armament, really awful speed and energy retention, and is generally just not very good.

Didn't this thing used to climb like a rocket? Now I have trouble keeping up with anyone. Shit, I have had Zeroes and P-63s outspeed me in dives without any effort.
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>>121742773
I do this tbqh.
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>tfw zooming straight up 4km in a horten and killing a P80

being heavy pays off
>>
>>121743734

There's also a Spanish youtuber called Swordsman he has a video in which I go full fucking retard in my Sea Meteor and he kills me with a Me-262
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>>121742935
Watch the entire video nigglet.

>>121742687
Read the comments, either Gaijin gave it the prototype engine while advertising the plane as a production one, or it's simply missing 1000lbs of thrust because ))))))). Simply put, they lied.
>>
Griffons are under-performing.
>>
>>121744175
Jesus fuck get good you shitter, it outclimbs anything it faces, it can turn with most planes, including 109G's and is an amazing energy fighter.
>>
>>121744642
Sure senpai
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>>121744175
>xp50
>mediocre climb
what
>>
NGARY
G
A
R
Y
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The wellington is killing me lads. Is there a harder grind in this game than to get the Lancaster?
>>
I miss the old QT grill voice ;_;

The new grill sounds like she has her mouth full of dicks
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>>121745326
Wait until you have to spade the Lancasters
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>>121745326
You don't have to play the preceding plane to unlock the next one.
>>
>>121745326
Bomber pilot was historically difficult, working as intended ))))))
>>
>>121745326
>play fighters
>get kills
>see how that fucking RP bar gets filled
Its an impossible task, I know
>>
>the Hunter is fucking garbage and nowhere near as good as it should be even if it's a shitty F1 variant

Can't say this is unexpected.
>>
>>121745520
I know that but I´m desperate for the lancaster so I try to pretend the wellington is a lancaster.
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>>121745370
>mouth full of dicks

Appropriate for QT then.
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>>121745520
>Not having spade autism

I bet you don't have camo autism either.
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>>121745819
You're going to be really disappointed.
>>
>>121745819
>I´m desperate for the lancaster

Why? It's a fucking shit plane like all bombers.
>>
>>121745887
>QT
>Girls
Literally a clan of MtF failures.
>>
>meteor f8
>migs pulling hypermaneuvering loops inside their own assholes while I'm barely able to turn with combat flaps deployed at 500 km/h
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>Because the new spotting in RB planes
>Entire teams just dive on the first target they see, even if it's a ground attacker 4km below them.
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>games where you get to land, reload AP and kill tanks
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>>121745960
>>121745516
>>121745326
Try spading / camo spaghetti bombers, every patch it gets a bit easier
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Anyone else getting really weird bugs like planes landed on the ground that aren't actually there and disappear when shot? Just encountered this ghost B29 that disappeared shortly after this screenshot.
>>
>>121744930
>>121745061

>Out-climbs anything it faces
>Can hardly hold 230 at 20 degrees when its competition can pull 270 at that

>Turns like a brick
>Engine power is laughable and the thing gets out-climbed and out-sped by even a stock Yak
>Nips all spawn in their Hard to Use Up-Down A7M1s
>>
>>121746563
It looks nice, at least. I still feel disoriented when they're at close range though
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Kill me
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>>121746749
Haven't done much with Germans, especially not Spaghetti bombers.

I like the Romanian one though, even if it is just a rare country in the game.
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>>121746563
>>
>>121746886
i prefer to watch you suffer
>>
>>121746465

Meteors are unplayable now. Stick to the Venom.
>>
>>121746869
>>Can hardly hold 230 at 20 degrees when its competition can pull 270 at that

are you literally retarded? Don't look at the speed at a certain angle, look at the climb speed. Open the local data, it can keep a 23-25 m/s climb rate all the way to 7-8 km. Who the fuck cares if you can keep 270 kph at 20 degrees if your climb speed stops at 19 m/s?

>>Turns like a brick
doesn't retard
>>Engine power is laughable and the thing gets out-climbed and out-sped by even a stock Yak
fastest accelerating plane at that BR range, get fucking good shitstain

>>Nips all spawn in their Hard to Use Up-Down A7M1s
just stop embarrassing yourself
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>>121746730
its not like I expected anything else, but its still disgusting as fuck to see
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>>121746869
why would you lie
>>
About to get the 9T

What am I in for?
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> worst fw190
ok athena
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>>121746869
k
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>>121747174
I'm only getting 20 m/s at sea level which is decidedly unspectacular.
>>
>>121747174

>Get good
>By somehow defying the parameters of an aircraft

I will be sure to unlock its potential with coding magic.

And yes, it turns like a brick. Even when it has optimal energy it has the maneuverability of a stone attached to a horse's ass.

I can do fine in basically every plane in the game, destroy entire teams and just have a grand old time. But in the XF5F and XP-50 I find myself at 5km up while the enemies are hanging 2-3km above me. Hell, every time I see an XP-50 or XF5F they get curbstomped the moment they reach combat.

>>121747287

>WEP
>Extremely low altitude

You did it, champ.

Enjoy your engine catching on fire in a moment and being forced to disable WEP and drop down an IAS of 230.
>>
>>121747406

A lot of people getting mad as fuck when you vaporize them in one shot.
>>
>>121746886
You picked those retarded colors, now live with them!
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>>121734414

>somebody voted japan for tanks

Just one is enough. Cull the herd.
>>
>>121742990
>>121740393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvk8dtVYL9Q
>>
>Attacker, which is absolute garbage, at 8.0
>all Meteors turned into bricks
>Meteor F3 at 8.0
>Vampire at 8.0
>Hunter is shit
>basically the only good jet in the Bong tree now is the Venom

Man I know Britain has been clubbing for a long time in Tier V but this punishment is a little too severe
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>>121740393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKUuA4B7qQw
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>>121747651
holding 296 at 5km without wep
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Why do migs keep doing this shit? Do they now have RCS? It's like they can just ignore physics and turn in all directions at once.
>>
how many shekels are the hunter modules?
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>>121747651
>>121748140
speed is literally increasing
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>>121747628
>>121747651
you are beyond help
>>
>>121748304
OUTSKILLED. PLAY BETTER.
>>
>>121748304

Make new webms, you've posted the same three Hunter webms 90 times each already.
>>
>>121747742
Those colours are god tier, don't delude yourself.
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>it's a 'kugelblitz makes my pilto sleepy on the first hit' episode
>>
>>121748335
>>121748347

Well, guess I was wrong.

I will keep trying with the XP-50.
>>
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>>121747651
>>121748140
>>121748335
still holding
>>
Is the 75mm Hs-129 decent against player tanks once fully upgraded? I tried it once stock and the fucking gun wasn't capable of reliably hitting a tank at 150m.
>>
What's this I hear about the K4's cannon being good now
>>
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>>121748347
This is all I get.
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>>121748498
1km later, climb speed is literally not dropping
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Quick I need music to play while driving the Hellcat!
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>>121747424
And I forgot my name.
>>
>>121748807

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w2ABeV8lRQ
>>
>>121748741
alt?

set a higher AoA, it won't drop speed.
>>
Were the F4-F and F6-F series of planes designed to be that ugly? They're like flying tumors with wooden slabs stuck in the side.
>>
>>121748807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw6LDVPst_0
>>
>>121748990
F4F is QT
F6F was designed to look like F4F so squinty eyed Japs would think it's an F4F.
>>
>>121748978
I tried to use the same AoA as you.
It's 3.9 in that picture but I did between 5 and that and I couldn't get more than 20 (20.5 was my best I think). Are you using MEC to increase your propeller pitch, and are you going to act all pretentious when I say I'm not? Because that's the only difference between
>>121748741
and
>>121747554
>>
Just unlocked the Me 163 and played a few games in it.

Not fun.
>>
>>121734414
Italy desu senpai
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>>121749218

>Not fun

ok Junkers

Sorry it's not the naziboo überplane you expected
>>
>>121749218
two years late to the party sempai
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>tfw got 2 jets and 7 props from the bomber glitch
>tfw never got banned
>tfw scarper will never catch me
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>>121749192
I don't use MEC, really not sure what you're having trouble with. Maybe you had your flaps down accidentally? I never drop down below 23.5 m/s climb rate in that plane.

Do you take full fuel load? Maybe that bugs it out, I always take 30 min.
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>>121748304
i like ur c.uck insignia m8
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>hunter
>mixed RB
>dive down to go as fast as it will go
>meteor f8 easily catches up while I'm going 1100 and sticks 300 meters behind me for over a minute while I never drop below 1050 during maneuvers
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>>121749218
plane itself is pretty fun, the mk108's are trash for high speed combat.
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>>121747941
Fuck off Robert.

:?)
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So actual question.
Ever since that QT faggot jerked off here, I've been wondering.

If I'm JG and leave to join QT do I automatically get a cute feminine boy to do lewd things with?
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>>121749607
>telling lies on the internet
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>>121749639
No but you immediately get branded as a massive faggot
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>>121749423
>really not sure what you're having trouble with
My XP-50 literally does not climb as fast as yours. Auto engine control on the test map with 20 minutes of fuel in WEP at the same speeds as you and I climb 4 m/s slower. I'm starting to think you're zooming for the screenshots to fuck with me.
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>>121749619
The mk108s are my primary complaint desu. I can just piss away all the ammo in seconds and they are so slow.
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>>121748807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OTvz1lJzmI
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>>121749423
I figured it out, you're doing arcade mode test flight.
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>>121749816
No? How shit can you be? You probably have your landing gear deployed.
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>>121749886
108 velocity is hard to work with on the 262's vs high speed targets, the 163 is 1.0 BR higher and sees even faster jets while having half the guns/ammo.

would just recommend you to skip german jets in general and just grind with props for mig/CL
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>>121749774
But Im not going to join KG
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>>121750210
>>121749816
lmao just tested it out, you ARE trying it with your gear deployed.
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>>121750784
>his face when
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>>121750338
I'm just gonna stick with the Horten. It's bretty gud.
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>>121750338
But I want to believe that the 262 with the 48 rockets is good for GF.
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>>121751179

>Ground forces
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>>121749407
>no proof

why don't you post your username so we can all see? :^)
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How to upgrade mig-15bis, what's the best order of part unlocking?
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I'm about to get the Tiger E

Is there anything I should know about it other than that since it has APCR I can fuck IS2s directly in the face?
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>>121751179
>>121748951
>>121750115
>not this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdwv0oFEm3g
he deserves better
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>>121751982
reddit fag pls go
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>>121752156
Anything, you're basically a god when flying it now.
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>Just watched a dead P-47 light on fire and kill three wellingtons
By dead i mean he already left his aircraft and was spectating.
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>>121752261
much thanks tovarischi)))))
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>>121752304
P-47 is magic.
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>Flying firebrand-chan because mai planefu
>Damaged after killing a K-4 that thought it was too slippery for my guns
>damaged further by another when hitting ground targets, saved by based teammates
>RTB because losing oil and plane generally code-3
>11km from the airfield I get spotted by third lawnmowing 109 ust barely catching up
>about to turn and go for the joust when AAA instagibs him the instant he gets in range
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>>121748807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDo7g8FzRNY
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>>121752304
>>121752541
Actually he was 10.8km away when the first two spontaneously lit on fire and exploded.
They weren't even under AA fire.
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>>121751982
Fuck off reddit
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>>121752526
it has to be fast and up beat kömrade )))
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>>121750784
>arcade
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>>121753571
>still assblasted he got found out
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Grandscenarios' high heels!
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>>121754251

Heels a shit.
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>>121753809
>>121750784
>>121748741
>gear, %=0
nice try lad, now start your game in realistic mode rather than arcade
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>>121754470
>not liking high heels
fag
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>yfw gaijin literally simulates jet engines like piston engines
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>>121754909

A shit.
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>>121755147
small family company )))))
vodka very expensive ((((
>>
>tfw I know the game has many, many flaws
>tfw I know every patch makes it worse
>tfw I know that it's got great potential that is wasted by poor dev decisions.
>tfw I still play because of that comforting feeling it gives me.

Anyone else get it? Just firing up a plane that you know inside and out, hearing her engine purr along as you climb. I just find it so comforting and warm. Plus I can still have fun getting into dogfights.

I don't know, that's why I play the game.
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>>121754616
How am I supposed to record the local data and the game at the same time? I guess you're just so shit that even the planes refuse to perform well for you.
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>>121755147
What do you mean. Piston engines show outputs in power taking into account mixture, boost pressure, rpm, and prop pitch (and presumably speed) while jet engines show outputs in thrust taking into account throttle and rpm (and presumably speed). It looks to me like they don't simulate them the same at all.

Even if they did, it would be fine because in terms of performance the only difference between jets and pistons is the shape of their thrust and power curves with regard to speed.
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>>121755585
Playing ground-attack is the most comfy. You can fly high or low and enjoy scenery. You can play in cockpit view even with mouse because you're hitting ground targets. Your plane can't really out-manuever a fighter unless that fighter makes really dumb decisions, so you are at peace with the fact that you most probably will get shot down. Thus, any ATA kill(s) are a bonus rather than the objective, and it seems that lately teammates are more inclined to trying to to help you when you get into trouble.

Finding a buddy each game and wingman'ing up is the best.
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>>121756047
Jet in the game lose power like piston engines.
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>>121755660
http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/112710-warthunder-logging-utility-for-flightmodel-testing/?p=3523162
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>>121752281
>>121752798

>ask for proof on claim
>"r-reddit get out!"

Hey guys what faggots, I grinded out the entire US tree with that exploit. And the Jap line. Not only did I not get banned, but Gaijin congratulated me.
Oh, no proof of my claims? FUCK OFF REDDIT
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>>121755585
speaking of comfy
>listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJDnJ0vXUgw while you fly CAS for your team in a skyraider
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>>121756205
Jets in the game lose thrust when they start going really fast because the exhaust temp maxes out and fuel flow is reduced... where have I heard of something like this happening before... oh yeah I remember it was in real life.
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>>121756403
>wants proof of claims
>proof of claims requires me posting my name
>posting my name means the beta white knight redditor known as you will report me
>and then you will go back to gargling scarper's balls
kill yourself
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>>121756451
>not it aint me
roll your stones right off a cliff pls
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>>121756720
>not sympathy for the devil
>>
>get hit
>it's always the turret ring

That's when you start asking things like "why the hell are parts something that has to be unlocked" as you crawl your way back to a point in order to make yourself useful again
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>>121756683

So you don't have any proofs? Your claims are refuted. You either got banned or did not exploit.

))))

see how this works?
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>>121756451
>>121756720
>>121756889
>dadrock
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>>121754616
>>121756348
This is what I get in arcade test flight though. Notice how my engines are producing 100hp more than they physically should in real life at WEP (110% throttle setting on local data) while my RB caps show the actual engine power? Pretty easy to see through your shenanigans shitter.
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>>121756720
>>121756889
>team is getting shrekt
>we've been pushed back to our spawn on poland
>t95 is on a hill kicking ass
>more and more slavs appearing everywhere
>tell him i've got his back
>he radios thanks
>blow up 2 t54s a t10m and a ZSU-57
>tell him I have to RTB
>he says it's ok
>as I fly away I see him take out 2 more
>he gets killed a few seconds later
>actually get tears in my eyes
I'll never forget you skyknight72
I'll never, ever forget you ;_;7
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>>121757059
>i was just being retarded to prove a point
pls go back to reddit
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>>121757167
I'm the guy who gave you the flight data recorder and didn't read thread.

What's going on?
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>>121757059
ok
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>>121757157
>dadplanes
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>>121757375
Nothing, guy implying I was test flying in arcade got his ass handed to him. No flight data recordings needed.
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>>121757645
>no fdr needed because it would show that i'm zoom climbing to achieve my screenshots
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>>121758372
>zoom climbing produces 100 extra HP than physically possible

lmao ok dude, get back to me when your planes have respect for you
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>>121756451
Better yet
>Hurricane IV with Vickers 40 Problem Solvers in Arcade taking full advantage of dat 2.0 BR with a BR 2.0 maximum loadout
>listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtwJvgPJ9xw
I've gotten into matches where most of the enemy team is in reserve shit. It's fucking hilarious seeing the fuselage of an unfortunate Peashitter fall to the ground with the engine and fuselage fuel tank burning
>mfw "pilot is unconscious" as a fireball falls to the ground followed by wing and tail debris
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>>121758531
I just want to understand how your identical plane climbs 15% faster than mine in identical conditions. The only explanation is that our conditions are not identical. I'm testing mine as "reasonably" as possible, using auto engine controls, mouseaim, 20 min fuel, limited f/a, realistic mode, no external armament, wep, "current" configuration (I tried reference and it didn't help). From this, the only explanation is that you're doing something differently to fuck up the results because you're having fun being le epik troll.
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>>121759390
inb4 it was Gaijin actively 'balancing' the players themselves through their planes
>>
So if the main brit tech tree's coming out by the end of the year, we should be getting new devblogs any day now, right?
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>>121759621
if that was true, imagine what kind of penalties Magz would have
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>>121759663

>+100% engine power on all planes

The horror.
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>>121758372
>>121759390
>zoom climbing to achieve my screenshots

fine you shitter,

here: my.mixtape.moe/wamgae.csv


Just for you.
Make of it what you will and take the time to decode it because the sections are not separated correctly, but you'll see that from 2km to 3km while climbing, my climb speed never dropped below 23.8 m/s, and was constantly in the range of 23.8 and 24 m/s, while my speed went down from around 255kph to 245kph IAS, don't remember the exact numbers which you will find in the FDR.
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>>121760757
I noticed from earlier that I get 100 hp less per engine than than what other people were posting.
>>121747554
>>121748741
I am wondering if because I don't own the XP-50 that maybe the effect of the engine modifications isn't actually being applied (even though it's a premium and has everything unlocked). I don't know how else people are getting 1210 hp when I only get 1110.
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>>121759390
I even marked a portion of it out for you which took around 30 seconds (last number is climb speed, on a bit to the left of the center is the IAS in kph (260-250) ), and as you can see the climb speed stays consistent. The Air speed drops a bit, but it stops dropping at around 235-240 kph IAS.

>>121761354
>I don't own the XP-50
epic
why am I even wasting my time then? I'm going to sleep, bye
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Convince me not to.
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>>121761841
hold your shekels for ships, or better airplanes
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>>121761841
Because you won't have fun.
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>>121761841
I wont.
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>>121761841
isn't that like 2 months of premium?
plz no
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>>121761841
Because you still have to grind the upgrades, I'd use it on premium time.
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J U S T
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hay guys, are the armor values of all ai ground target types standard or do they have differing armor values ie are [medium tank]s just the same thing but with a pz4 or sherman or t-34 graphic displayed depending on the map
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>>121761841
Buy a talisman for the mk22.
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>>121762392

Standardised

>hay

Kill yourself.
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>>121762703
hay no need to be so rude my friend, but thank u for the info
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UH-OH!

HERE COMES CRYBABY MAGZ!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk2CXw47qhI
>>
does anyone else find playing russian planes really offputting? like it just doesnt feel right?
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>>121763605
>not magz.jpg
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>>121763605
>people still not using TAS for climb

It's like they don't even jet.
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>>121752253
yeah:
it's shit. use the h1. the apcr is not worth facing 7.0 tonks.
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>>121763614

You mean how they fly or just in general?

I think they're really ugly an boring.
>>
>skillcat
>skilldog

what do we call the T-92?
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>>121752253
You can fuck IS-2s with the Panther and the Tiger 1's APCBC, m8
You just have to hit it dead on from whatever angle you're shooting from and if there is any hint of a slope it'll bounce because )))
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>>121763614
I found that it just felt cheap.

Although I haven't played planes in a while. Is stalinwood still in full effect?
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>see corsair infront of my hunter
>finger just slips onto my mouse out of nowhere
craziest thing man
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>>121764706
Honestly I just go for the turret if I don't have a side shot because the rim is usually weak. and close enough to the less sloped section that any deviation tends to result in a successful penetration. I just revel in the idea of punching through that stupid gun manlet and being able to do exactly the thing they do, which is just click and delete through the turret.

If the player hasn't wised up to carrying not lugging around full ammo capacity, hitting the rear turret causes a nice fireworks show if I'm flanking.
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>>121752253
the armor is even more worthless than the H1

you'll never need the APCR since you can pen everything with APHECBC

enjoy facing T-32s
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>>121765123
I've been bouncing off the 100mm spot on the IS-1 and IS-2's mantlet like crazy lately so they might have Gaijin'd it.
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>>121764782
It went into overdrive with 1.53.
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>>121764782

I can't make any guesses as to their overall structural strength. Il-2s can be hard as fuck to put down but I kind of expect that.

As for slav fighters, whenever I shoot them I always count on the fire going out. People tell me this is because they have a lot of small tanks that burn out before the plane breaks up, which makes sense, but I don't have time to chase their ass on the deck to assure the kill.
>>
Is the Chaffee any good? I never used it after researching it.
>>
>>121765038
>3325x1871
>>
>>121765234

Is this what 5 star G tolerance, ace qualified flight crew looks like?
>>
>>121765382
Slower and less maneuverable than T-34, worse armor than T-34, worse gun than T-34.
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>>121763614
Refuse to, dont want to be a cheapo all my life.
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>>121765038

Speaking of corsairs, did they get an update on their FMs with the patch? Or was that just a rumor before the patch?
>>
>>
>>121765515
That crew slot isn't maxed out, I don't think it's even close to. You just don't black out as long as you do sporadic g's , or wait until you start coming back from the tunnel until you apply more g's.
>>
What is channel loss in jet engines?
>>
>>121765697
Makes sense, it's just that I've never passed 10gs either don't play jets, might be why.
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>>121766021
I play jets.

I don't cross 6G either
>>
>all crew qualification requirements basically doubled

FUCK.
YOU.
GAIJIN.
>>
>>121765692
Swatting b17s out of the sky with the 40mm cannons is great fun.
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>>121765402
I find it to be a good balance between 4k and 1440p
>>121765674
they made them lock up at high speeds less
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>>121766152
THEY FUCKING DOUBLED THEM?

I just thought they changed the whole layout of the crew menu.
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>>121766082

My plane doesn't really let me.
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>>121765674
They did.
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>>121766174
>possible only because external ballistics isn't any more complex than relative forces
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>>121766345
>they made them lock up at high speeds less

This sounds like a mixed blessing. I'll have to try it out.
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>>121766440
Too fast. Nose should be pointed up and your engine should be running.

Flip is around.

AoA controls how fast you go, speed controls how much you ascend or descend.
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>>121766440
you dont land like that
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>>121766472
Nothing that complicated, its just a big bullet.
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>>121766721
it's fiendishly complicated, even modern jets nowadays still use lookup tables instead of calculating them on the run
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>>121766152
Wat?
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>>121767073
I use up all my 40mm ammo on one run, none of those lookup tables.
>>
>>121765864
Never heard of "channel loss" in regard to jet engines but it sounds like the exhaust velocity lost due to friction against the exhaust pipe; in order to minimize it you would want to have a short exhaust tube, which is part of why planes like the venom and vampire wound up looking like they did.
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>>121766440
Land much slower and pull up hard as soon as your tail catches, though some planes will strike the prop no matter what you do.
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>>121767195
Well of course, in War Thunder, shells will go straight no matter how hard you're turning or side slipping.
>>
>>121767073
It's much more complicated today because many targets are traveling at a significant percentage of the projectile's velocity. Compared to a bullet a B17 is extremely slow.
>>
>tfw you farted and you're not sure if you shit yourself but you can't check because you're in a heated dogfight
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>>121767812
this desu
>>
>>121767812
Authentic diaper-wearing pilot reporting in.
>>
>>121767654
They actually wrote a paper on the effects of yaw upon firing sideways. Pretty sure for the bombers at the time.

STERNE, T. E. 1943. The effect of yaw upon aircraft gunfire trajectories, Ballistic Research Society 345.

They actually wrote a paper for this. I assume for bombers fags.
>>
>>121767812
wet farts mang, you never know when they´ll strike
>>
>>121766440
>hey guys why do I crash when I point my nose at the ground
>>
What's the difference between the Me 262s aside from the Narwhal?
>>
>>121767943
http://www.ima.org.uk/_db/_documents/Gkritzapis.pdf
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>>121768084
Look at them.
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>>121768056
I can live with a 14 second repair time, senpai, I just want to look more graceful while I flop around on the deck.
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>>121768084

They are mainly arcade stuffers and grinders, a lot of jets are like that.

Prop up how many planes you can use per match and increase the grind to finish the tree.
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>>121768084
the Cs have sanic tubes under their wings
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>leopards try to flank
>they get flanked
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>>121768196
Would it kill Gaijin to add one with MG 151/20s and MK 103s like one prototype had?
>>
Grand, Vegeta here. Restarted and now I'm getting Failed to load player profile.
RIP
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>Try Achilles in SB to hunt Tigers
>Killed right at start of the match by Stukas
>Achilles only gets one spawn
>The Fireflies on my team get two
>>
>>121768107
The real problem is the ability to test, make it repeatable and consistent.

I mean when people are ruddering just in time to hit something at 400m, something is really off.
>>
so did the game just become kill for anyone else?
>>
>>121769371
Can confirm.
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>>121768191
Carrier landings are high nose while using throttle to control ascending or descending. Not the other way round.
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>>121769557
game is indeed kill, what do
>>
>>121769673
Play other game?
>>
Restart the client whoever's game is kill
>>
>>121769563
Are there any carrier based planes with tricycle gear? Because the way they land seems more interesting, no flare, just straight in like a controlled crash.
>>
GAME IS DEAD ITS OVER
WE'RE FREE
GO GET GIRLFRIENDS, JOBS
GO WORK OUT, GO GET LAID
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>>121770029
Game is back.
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>>121770012
BTD has a tricyle gear, I think.
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>>121770029
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>121770012
That's how all carrier planes (are supposed to) land, you should be in your landing attitude well before you are over the carrier's deck and then just hold it until you touch down.
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>>121770012
All the US naval jets and F7F.
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>>121770072
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>>121770132
At least for me that doesn't work with tail draggers, if you don't flare the tail hook isn't low enough to catch.
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>>121766440
didn't you play the fucking tutorial. It said 30% throttle and point nose up
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>>121770354
Then you aren't going slow enough. The fact that you have enough speed to flare clearly shows that you aren't going slow enough.
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DEAD FUCKING GAME
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RIP WT
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DEAD GAME
T-they pulled the plug!
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CUSTOM MEMES STILL WORK

QUICK SOMEONE MAKE ONE
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>>121770605
Time to play some forum thunder.
>>
Tactics for the Hawker Hunter seem very clear. It's got a 900 km/h best rate of climb and a 1.55 mach wing rip.

It's the first sonic boom and zoom in War Thunder.
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>>121770810
>14 g
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>>121770979
It's actually lower. Rated limit of 6 above 0.9 mach. So... lower the mouse sensitivity?
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>servers gone

It.... It's over
The ride has finally ended

I tip my fedora to all of you faggots, godspeed and good luck in life
See you fags in another battered wife syndrome meme game
>>
custom battle map poland password vg

host: camelith
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>Game is dead

It was nice knowing you /wtg/
All you nazis, weebs and homos.
It was fun while it lasted.

I will miss your shitposting, it always made me laugh no matter how out of hand it got. I wish you all luck and hope we can all meet again some day in the future...
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>>121770810
>>121771142
>the "it says so in the manual" meme
well meme'd friend, an oldie but a goodie
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>>121768998

>Fireflies on your team

>Firefly: 5.0 BR
>Achilles: 3.7BR

Why must you turn this thread into a den of lies?
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>>121771541
Actually it's from the data sheet from SubRyan.
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>>121771557
lad it's easy to take a tank into a higher BR than it belongs
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>>121771557
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SB
>SB
>Simulator Battles
>Battles of simulation difficulty
>Full Real Battles
>The real deal
>Not RB
>Not AB
>SB
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http://live.warthunder.com/post/285330/en/

do you like it?
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>>121771875
I can't even tell what's on it, besides "anime and stuff", because the screenshots are so bad.
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>>121772003
probably better this way
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>>121771771
RARE私
A
R
E
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>>121771557
Learn to read m8
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>>121771746
>>121771771
>>121772156

>Look back
>It says SB now

WE REALLY ARE IN THE BERENSTAIN UNIVERSE.

Could be that I am just a blind retard
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>>121772147
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>>121772253
I forgive you anon.
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>last man alive in Spit LF IX against four yak-3s and a lala
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>>121770029
>>121770491
>>121770586
>>121770605
>>121771186
>>121771536
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You people are pathetic.
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>>121773218
wew bit harsh
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>>121773218
Plz no bully
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>>121773218
reeeee
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>>121772361
>ai kyan notto furai
s2 when?
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>Fly Premium Ishak
>Get into a dogfight with a P-400 and a Spit Mk IIb
>Kill them both with some very simple maneuvers
>Spitfire asks everyone to report me

RUSSIA STRONK.
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>>121773915
>turning with a biplane

I got 30 kills in the last EC because of idiots like that. I didn't even bother spawning in a different fighter after a while.
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>red tail mustangs never
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>>121773907
Never.
Just read the untranslated LNs.
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>>121774163
>muh nigger mustang
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>>121774031

>Ishak
>Biplane

But yeah, turning with it is still retarded.

It was a lot of vertical and horizontal maneuvers at the same time. I have had players at mid to low (even high a few times) tiers ask me how I fly so good and it's the most simple shit. I'm not even good at the game. I just understand how to use energy decently
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>>121774272
/pol/ pls
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>>121774328
Shieeeet sorry man, got my ishaks and chaikas mixed up.

Nah the Cannon Chaika will slice up any fool dumb enough to slow down in it's vicinity.
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>chatban for 1 week
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>>121774441

Cannon Chaika is honestly bullshit and I am glad I got it ages ago because it's fun to see people bitch and whine.

I don't get why the Cannon Chaika and Cannon Ishak are both the exact same tier. I guess it's for your taste in bias.

>Do you want to be a bee or a butterfly?
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>>121774535
>bias

See, I don't even think that's applicable to the chaika. Literally any plane it faces outruns it with a very short dive or even just straight flying. It's got the durability of, well, a biplane. It just feeds on idiots.
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>Flying slav bias
>Doing well, get an assist and a kill
>Suddenly a green dot approaches me
>Starts shooting at me
>What the fuck
>Name is green, dot is green
>He's in a P-40-E so my brain flushes out and assumes he is in a lend-lease even though there's no Soviet star
>He fucking shoots me down
>It's an enemy

What the absolute shitting fuck is this, Gaijin?

Care you explain?
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>>121774163
>niggers
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>>121775385
/pol/ pls
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>>121775352

Getting shot by a p40 is embarrassing.
Worst plane in the game desu senpai.
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>>121775653

>P-40
>Not great

I will punch your dick you cunt.
>>
>spawn
>teammate shoots me down
>no crew lock
this is a good change, now if only they'd revert back to having to crew lock at all.
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>>121775718
lel
can't climb
can't turn
can go fast only while diving (maneuvers even worse when fast)
decent guns

a great plane for running away or getting shot down
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Why are T1 aircraft allowed to get Spain and Korea? These maps are much too large for <300 km/h
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How are you supposed to fly the Hunter against Miggers? I can't ever hit them with how tight their turns are.
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How are you supposed to fly the North American Mustang against Zeroes? I can't even hit them with how tight their turns are.
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>>121776040
>Korea
>Big
u wot
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>>121776303
It's the second-largest map behind (extremely large) Spain in terms of distance between airfields. There's one Japan v USA naval map that's almost as large and also really annoying to get in T1.
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>>121774846

>Flying premium Ishak
>Make a really bad move
>Enemy P-39 pummels me with MG fire
>Engine goes out
>Think I am going to just lose my engine and die
>Engine fails
>Go into a dive
>Suddenly
>Engine roars back to life
>Going 500km/h or so despite having a fucking destroyed engine
>Make it back to the airfield and repair

THANK YOU GAIJIN.

YOU ARE MY GREATEST ALLY.

RUSSIAN BIAS DOESN'T EXIST.

>This has happened TWO GAMES IN A ROW

If it happens again I will record it holy shit

>>121775920

Fuck you faggot.
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>>121776221
1 on 1 if you boom and zoom they'll never be able to hit you unless they go head on.


It then just becomes a game of endurance where you're just waiting for one of you to fuck up. (either a the zero not turning tight in the right direction enough, or the mustang not zooming enough or coming in too slow or deciding to turnfight for whatever reason)
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>>121776483
>chaika

Difference there being the chaika literally explodes against British .303s, let alone the Americans .50s.

Don't actually know that much about ishak. I own it, but don't really like the ishak in any case.
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How can I learn to play fighter planes?
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>>121776587

Practice in custom battles
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>>121776532
>unironically responding to memeposting
your memes exceed mine senpai
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>>121776131
Anybody? Fuck this is getting retarded. They can literally do fucking 12g loops and come out of them faster than me when I'm flying straight in a medium dive.
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>>121776131
Turn on TAS and fly at 920 km/h before climbing. Do not exceed 1140 km/h indicated.

In terms of how you fight. It's closer to a modern day jet than a korean one. Energy fight using the technique written in Fighter Tactics and Maneuvering.
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>>121776738
I don't have a fucking book with me, just say what to do against these infinite turning fucks.
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>>121776738
Any tips from someone who has actually played the Hunter?
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>>121776586

The Ishak is a "zippier" Chaika with a slightly better armament. I never used to like it, now I find it a joy to fly.

Plus the big flat engine is amazing for decals.

>>121776587

In RB?

Play matches and read up on some basic maneuvers.

In SB?

Practice a lot in custom battles and read up on how planes work.

>>121776885

The MiG-15/bis is overperforming

The Hunter is underperforming

You can't do a lot about them, even fully upgraded.
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Is it just me or has the bomber spam from allied teams gone down to almost nothing?
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>>121777049
I think bomber suicide time made them question what the fuck they're doing with their lives.
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BUILT FOR SEX
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>>121777125
More likely that most bomberfags were flying bombers because it was a slow, steady way to grind RP without having to actually play or be good at the game, much like playing arcade. Bomber suicide let them finish grinding so now they're playing (and being terrible at) all the jets they wanted instead of flying bombers.
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>>121775920
>he doesnt know how to use a P40
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>>121776975
>actually played the Hunter

actually played the Hunter succesfully
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>>121777697
Sideclimb and get one or two kills in the melee, run away, get chased down. I know how to use it, that doesn't make it a good plane.
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>>121777793
>Not looping and doing swooping turns to outskill niggers
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>>121777248
>not when she was on her side
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>>121777871
>he gets chased down
>says I know how to use it

rite
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>>121777918
You guys were in the way desu
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>>121777934
can't climb and it's not fast on the level compared to nazi planes at the same BR
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>>121777934
>Getting chased down
If you have to run in the P-40 you fucked up, m8.
Loops aren't the best thing to do but if you're hauling ass, the enemy usually doesn't expect it
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Why are migs able to retain ALL of their speed after doing a minimum radius loop at 1,100 km/h?
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>>121777248
>me on the right
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>>121778079
Because physics.
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>mfw two enemies try diving on me and lose control into the ground when I pull evasive

g loc is pretty good.
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>>121778362
>people committing early
it's the best feature ever implemented
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>>121778068
There's literally nothing a P-40 can do that the E3 at the same BR can't do significantly better.
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>>121778362

I haven't had anything like that happen to me yet.

Am I just not a retard?
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>>121778605
Probably, that or you're just flying enough bias that you never have to worry about people diving on you.
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>>121778605
Once you get G-tolerance maxed out, you have to do some serious shit to get it to happen.
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>>121778705
>>121778701

>Have 5+3 G-Tolerance and practically every faction
>5+5 on some of my super low tier favourites

Not Pay2Win.
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>>121778860
u can grind your way to ace qualification now, not pay 2 win at all comrade
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>>121778984

Do premium/talisman planes earn it faster? Do premium accounts earn it faster?

)))))))))))
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>Me 163 teamkills me on purpose
>He flies away and gets outskilled by the nearby AI B-29s
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>>121779107
These are the kind of people who complain AI gunners are too good on player bombers.
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>>121778860
lel I have 2+3 on most of my planes and I literally can't tell the difference from my 5+5 ace qualified plane.
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>>121779071
...
You can literally get the same benefit that paying players get without ever paying anything. The point of pay to win is that you can pay get stuff that non-payers can't get. Are you thick?
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>>121779071
earning things faster is not same as winning comrade :3
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>>121779158

Gunner AI is stupidly inconsistent for me.

>Dive an enemy going 780km/h
>His gunners snipe me from 900m out and land repeated hits and shred my plane

>Dive an enemy B-17 and sit on his tail for 10 seconds
>No damage at all

>Fly TB-3 with fully upgraded gunners and ace
>Enemy sits on my tail for an hour in a biplane getting pummeled by API rounds
>Nothing but sometimes enemies get vaporised

Magic.

>>121779282
>>121779337

Pay2Notgrind is just a super elongated, drawn out form of Pay2Win, friend. Don't deny it.

>>121779342

)))))
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>>121779071
If I play more than you I'll get better at the game and unlock those qualifications more quickly than you, does that make the game "play to win"?
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>>121779494
>Pay2Notgrind is just a super elongated, drawn out form of Pay2Win, friend. Don't deny it.
The fuck do I care mate. I can't even tell the difference between 2+3 and 5+5
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>>121779337

Sure. You can grind out ace qualification without paying. Tell me how long it takes you.
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>>121779575

I have 3+3 G force tolerance on my good crew slots and I never black out. Some combination of not being a retard and moderately good crew stats seems to pay off.
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>>121779582
i don't want one desu, seems like a good way for retards to burn energy even quicker
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>>121779680
I'd probably never even black out if I had 1+0. High G turns are waste of E.
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>>121779574

No, because if I want I can still shit out a small chip of a paycheck to get a biasmobile like the VK-107 Yak and shit all over anyone who stands in my way with my level 40,000 crew, even as a mediocre or shitty player I can be elevated by dosh.

>>121779680

I am yet to black out under any circumstance with my 5+3/5 crews.
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>>121779754
>High G turns are waste of E
>he doesn't play war thunder like most people do

get out
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>>121779845
Sorry mate, I like winning.
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>>121766347
Maxed+Ace crews now have a 20% advantage over Maxed+Expert crews.

You can grind, but it's somewhere in the order of 20-50 times the RP cost of the vehicle.
>>
>Have tank painting as my desktop in the slideshow at the moment
>Right click and drag to rotate a static image
I think it's time to go to bed.
G'night again, /wtg/
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>>121779959
how many years of grinding is that for say a top jet
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>>121780125
With or without premium+premium/talisman plane
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>>121779959
It's not really like useful advantages though (disregarding the tank visibility nightmare). It lets you maintain an insane g loading for slightly longer than normal, which even under normal circumstances might net you a kill but is normally followed by a death sentence. There are also fewer and fewer planes every patch that can actually survive that many Gs, disregarding the fact that many planes just aren't even capable of reaching them. The only reason this suddenly became a big deal is 1) broken Mig-15s and 2) it tells you numerically what the effect is.
Once the magic migs get patched it will stop mattering.
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>enjoying the hellcat
>going fast
>like really fast
>about to unlock filters/engine

Its going to get reaaaally good am I right?
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>>121780230
without
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>>121780508

Having a good ground-crew lets you fire your guns more or less infinitely and with accuracy while being able to re-arm/repair in 10 seconds.

It's all just convenience, not really pay2win.
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>there is literally nothing wrong with the Ho 229
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>>121780813
sheeit
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>>121780813

>PT-76.webm
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>>121780508
Ground crew is easy to max though, the cost scaled really slowly. It was probably 4-5 times cheaper than G-tolerance which is by far the most expensive.
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>>121766440
You did literally everything wrong.
The carrier is moving towards you, land from the other side.
Your angle is shit, come in lower and slower with landing flaps deployed, put the throttle on cruise and point your nose up. Pull up if the hook caught on.
You can land any plane on a carrier this way, even if they don't have a hook.
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>>121781215
>The carrier is moving towards you, land from the other side.
That's not even correct, you're a fucking retard.
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>>121778592
It used to be good but it is a shadow of its former self for sure.
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>>121781270
Calm down sperg, the test flight carrier doesn't but it still applies.
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>>121779959
I just played an A6M2 with 1.5+3 crew and I never even blacked out.
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>>121780813
Blame the servers, not the based Horten.
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>>121781447
It doesn't apply at all. Even if it had been moving it wouldn't have been an approach from the wong side.
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>>121781447
All carriers in-game have the tower on the right. He's landing in the correct direction.
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>Fatal

But Gaijin, I thought they fell unconscious in War Thunder!
>>
>Fly US Navy fighter
>Get a match against Nips
>They all spawn in the air in their hard to use up-down-left-right samurai machines
>Most of my team spawns on boats in planes that don't climb very well

I sure am glad Japanese teams consist entirely of planes that never saw action and are good at EVERYTHING!
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>still not banned
Here's to you Gaijin, go get them Arcade exploiters.
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>slav p-40 is the last guy on their team
>he runs away from me, last on my team, in my scary tbf
can't run forever lad, that's two in one game
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>>121781965
Quantitative matchmaking to ensure Hellcats face almost exclusively zeroes when?
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>>121781838
report this to the esrb at once
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>>121781838
Death technically unconscious ))
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>>121781838
>Killed

But Gaijin, I thought they fell unconscious in War Thunder!
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>>121781838
protip: you're not conscious when you're dead

>>121781965
Just wait until T4 where the Japanese literally don't have a single carrier-spawned aircraft while the entire US team will be in F8Fs.
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>>121782219
>the entire US team will be in F8Fs.
There's usually a few P-80s who die in the first minute of the game to r2d2s.
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>>121782219

>Play Japanese
>Fly A6M5
>Rest of my team is premium 190s and Ki-84s who spawn in the air
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>>121759124
yeyeye.
I have over 10 k/d with it in AB doing exactly this.
>for some time right after it came out it was at BR 1.7
>could get the loadout in AB to be BR 1.3 where almost everything is reserve all the time
>nobody can outrun, outgun, or outclimb you, only biplanes can outturn you but in AB their small-calibre guns are useless.
>bnz all day since you cant break your wings in AB and aiming is easy as fuck
>On the rare occasion you run into something actually capable of harming you like a Lagg chances are they are new and unskilled
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>>121781986
i'm not banned either
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>>121782219
>nuclear reactor engine
>still playing F8F

Maybe if their pilot is the Human Torch, but most US players don't really like their planes engine trying to set the rest of the plane on fire.
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>>121781986
>did it to research my banshee
>now I'm too poor to train a crew for my banshee
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>>121782651
It's all the US has between P-51s at 5.0 and P-80s at 7.0.
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>>121782175
>>121781838
CALL THE ESRB THIS INSTANT
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>>121782708
I know.

: (
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>>121782908
>tfw f4u-4 never
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>>121782930
>No P-51H
>No P-47N
>No F4U-4
>No F8F-2

literally what is the point of living
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>>121782678

>Flying a Banshee

>>121783120

>F8F-2 would exclusively face jets
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>>121783160
But anon, I'm not flying a banshee. I'm too poor to train my crew.
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>>121783160
It would be worth it.

>heavier than the F8F-1
>less horsepower
>50km/h faster

Grumman literally GOAT
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>>121783506

Don't fly it even if you can afford it you'll get MiGGed by filthy MiGGers.

Jets fucking suck.
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Is there something wrong with the screencaps?

I use to take them and the logo of WT was just there but now the menu is till there
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>>121783563
seriously how did they do that
grumman space magic?
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>>121783160
>tfw if the airacomet is ever introduced it'll either get put at 7.0 where everything is 200kph faster than it or get put somewhere sensible but where everyone will bitch about it purely because it's a jet
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>>121783685

It would just be another stepping stone to get past before the "good" jets, even if it had a reasonable BR.

It wasn't that fast or good in general, right?
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>>121783658
>In 1948 Grumman introduced a number of improvements to produce the F8F-2. Among the changes were a modified cowling design, taller vertical fin, and the slightly more powerful R-2800-30W engine producing 2,240 horsepower (1,670 kW).

>specs listing at the bottom shows 2,250 hp

Even wikipedia doesn't know.
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>>121783805
It's 90 kph slower than the Yak-15 and slower than P-47s, so it was never put in service
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>>121783658
Well...
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>>121733012
helt ok
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Which plane is the most fun for you?
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>>121784132
Chaika.
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>>121784132
I-153P

Punish idiots who think turning into a biplane is a good idea.

Get good enough with it and you'll punish idiots who think getting within a 1km radius of the thing is a good idea.
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>>121784132

A-0, I-301, Ishak, Ki-61, Boomerang.
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>>121784132
XF5F
people see it and go "oh a twin-engine fighter going slowly, just going to turn with him" and then they slowly die
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>>121784237
Why Boomerang?
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>>121784372

Nostalgia for when it was brutally OP.

I don't fly it much anymore.

Also, the TB-3 is a giggle.
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>>121784132
Blenheim, A-20G, P-47, Bf-110
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Post planefus

The E4 is fucking beautiful, it became my favorite plane of low tier.
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>>121784513
Enjoy it while it lasts. No way its staying at 2.7
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>>121768394
Hey do you have an aced crew on that? I want to know how low you can get the reload
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>>121783805
there was a time when i would have said "it would be premium" but the 229 and the r2y2s have proven conclusively that realism is not a valid argument. It would probably go after the F-82, be at 6.0 BR, and be shit.
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>>121785147
It literally says how low you can get the reload.
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>>121784132
Typhoon 1b, P-51-20 (as of this patch), Me 262 (godless killing machine built like a tank), P-63A-10, La-5FN, Blenheim, MiG-9, P-38G, H6K4.
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>>121768394
Literally the retarded Tiger drivers from Tier III

I wonder how many leo drivers stopped playing after all the other cold war tanks dropped in on their ww2 clubbing fun.
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Has anybody else seen this? Planes flying level with their engines off. Shooting them doesn't do anything. Wish I tried ramming it.
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>>121785764
Yeah it's fucking weird.
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>>121785764
How is that BTD not twisting itself out of the sky without the engine going, isn't it's rudder off-center to counter engine torque in the first place?
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>>121785928
If your retarded logic was correct the BTD would be impossible to land in or dive-bomb with.
Thankfully, you're just retarded.
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>>121785764
I'm more concerned with the random AI (and EVEN HUMAN PLAYERS) who ghost spawn at certain points on the ground for several minutes every game.
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>>121784132
P40, 109 F1
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>>121786078
OK, maybe I was exaggerating; but with no torque from the engine, gliding with no control input, it should skew to one side, right?

Either that or fuck aerodynamics, too hard.
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>>121786120
I've seen that one, I think it's a bug with the spotter AI plane on that map.
I've never seen the one with humans that people talk about, I know when people are initially spawning in (or JIP so sometimes it happens kinda far into the game) the game will show them as being at some random location on the map for a few seconds but I've never seen them stay for more than those few seconds.
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>>121786241
You know how the back half of the vertical stabilizer (the "rudder") is hinged?
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>>121786319
>no control input
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>>121786243
So much shit has been fucked as of this patch.

On the first day entire teams of people lagged then suddenly exploded or experienced massive desync leading to server crashing.

Planes snap to and seemingly normalize on a vector, smoothly moving across the screen in aerodynamically impossible ways as the server corrects for whatever netcode and sync problems are going on, meaning that head ons during peak load hours can be a strange and unsettling experience as you attempt to get guns on a plane you had just been firing into.

I've seen aicraft seemingly hiccuping in the air and teleporting a few feet as of late, a behavior formerly only associated with AI.

Pic related, goodbye everyone but me!
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16lwNf1xT3Y

What do you think of Nabutso's new video, /wtg/?
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>>121786612
I can't take anyone seriously who uploads shit like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WXucK3rEPY
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>>121786860
>being a Weebphobe
It's 2015, COME ON.
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>>121786461
Yes, most propeller-driven aircraft have a built-in bias, usually to make it so at cruise speed and power there's no rudder deflection (to reduce drag). Some with particularly powerful engines which will operate at slow speed and high AoA (such as a carrier plane) might build in more bias to help the pilot with those phases of flight, sacrificing drag at cruise speed. These planes normally have rudder trim though so it's not like it becomes unflyable at low power.
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>>121786860
>Year of anime
>Hating anime
baka desu senpai
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>>121786612
At first it was interesting and then a couple minutes in he says "and I'm literally just making this up now" and I closed the tab.
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>>121784513
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>>121784513
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Rhodesian hunter skin when
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The entire game feels like a placeholder, why would they keep the same battles for 3 years, boring maps and no variety
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>>121788734
Because free to play.
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>>121788734

There's not a lot you can do with PvP air battles while keeping them balanced without adding AI elements. Even then, that shit is awful in-game as is.

What would you like? More ground objectives? Bomberniggers would assrush them and the match would end in moments. Air objectives? Same as above, but with fighters.

Planes, due to moving in a nearly limitless 3D space, are incredibly difficult to base game modes around. Especially in a "realistic" or "historical" setting.
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>>121788905
To be fair, a lot of the problems come with the setup they've given for the missions. All of them have to involve two airbases with objectives appropriately far away from them and a good central meeting point for people to murder eachother.
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>>121788905
I want fighters in the air before or at the same time as bombers and reactive map elements like bridges and vehicles that alter the flow of the game. Something like the landing craft on Saipan, but less one-dimensionally win/lose and less starting altitude discrepancies.
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>>121789145

If you make them anything else, people will be fucking furious.

>The match ended while I was climbing into space!
>I couldn't even bomb anything!
>This game sucks!

>>121789149

>Alter the flow of the game

Unless you implement enormous-scale ground forces into air matches, that's virtually impossible without making it incredibly imbalanced and/or easy to abuse.
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>>121789235
You could totally make it something else, to be honest, but it would require people getting used to a different standard and nobody would allow that ever.
This is why I wish I could make my own competitor, rip
>>
Why don't Shitfires have combat flaps?
>deploy flaps
>landing flaps
RETRACT FLAPS at 250 kph

Fucking bongs
>>
>>121789235
Just stick like 40 player planes and 80 player tanks into an Air map like Korea in an EC game and see what happens.
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>>121789415
>120+ things to keep track of
>gaijin servers fart when dealing with 30
get me outta here
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>>121789415

>Planes bully tanks for hours
>Tanks get bored driving miles to get blown up by a plane that is in the stratosphere

>>121789335

You'd lose most of your player base if you made WT any more complex.

War Thunder is fundamentally broken.
>>
>>121789473
There's no denying it would be fun as hell if they got it to work, though.
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>>121789510
There would be a reason for more planes to take bombs/rockets which would make it even easier to get kills in air superiority fighters, and player tanks don't render from the stratosphere, so that wouldn't be so much of a problem either.
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>>121784132

109 E-4 is fun incarnate.

I also love the Spit XVI, the F9F-2 and the Yak 9K
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>>121789510
>You'd lose most of your player base if you made WT any more complex.
Eh, I feel like the ideas I have wouldn't make the game more complex. Except for the part where I would try and make the actual combat more realistic and add permadeath for pilots, those parts would kill whatever game I made.

With that said, I really feel like the frustration even casuals have with Warthunder isn't complexity, it's feeling like nothing matters and that the game's just going to fuck them sometimes and they can't control it. That's not fun, and that can be solved.
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>>121749218

It can now turn hard at high speedw without ripping its wings. If it's not fun now that it's ben buffed then I don't even know man.
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>>121789415
>40 player planes

Give me 50v50 plane games in maps the size of Norway or Spain, with several different spawn points spread across the map so there are several furballs and battles instead of one huge arcade furball in the middle
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>>121789802
Oh fuck seriously

Literally my only tactic of getting rid of the buggers was high G evasive, you're telling me that won't work now?
>>
>>121789997

I did some test flights recently and compared to how it worked in 1.51 it seems to have stiffening now. It turns a bit worse but its wings are much stronger
>>
>literally every retard in the playerbase is now flying the Hunter

Downtier to 8.3 based on player performance statistics soon))))
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>>121790132
>just want to play USPS bomb delivery service
>hokkaido every match
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>>121790212
>BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
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>>121790468

I'm getting Spain a lot in jets these days I know that's Sicily but still
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>>121790589
Fuck Spain t b h
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>>121790468
>Super Sabres to counter the Hunter never because afterburner
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>>121790675
>implying we need super sabres when the cl-13 can exceed it's IRL 'Never exceed speed' by nearly 300kph
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>>121790675
>counter the Hunter

It's a shit plane m8, the Meteor F8 and the Venom are far more dangerous right now.

>>121790589
>fuck Spain

Rude tfw spanish and my country sucks
>>
>>121790756
CL-13s don't save B-57s from Hunters, senpai.
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>>121790770
>It's a shit plane m8
Not it's a shit stock plane

A good aced plane but still underperforming by over 20%
>>
>>121790947
>by over 20%
You're not talking about the retard who compared STATIC thrust by taking off and flying right?
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>>121791283
>You're not talking about the retard who compared STATIC thrust by taking off and flying right?

If you think the static thrust mount ingame is correct,you're the retard

>Hunter engine being modeled like piston engine is absolutely OKAY
>>
Super Saber when?
>>
>>121791487
Never. No afterburners allowed.
>>
>>121791406
It's modeled like it did back in IL2 1946.
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>>121791487

Supersonic planes will never be in WT.
>>
fuck me, Germans at this hour cannot play for shit.
>>
>>121791557
Why the fuck not, though? Are Gaijin just pussies?
>>
>>121791634
Yes.

It's also a super secret way for them to have shit like the 1955 Yak-25 while not having shit like the 1950 Starfire.

All I wanna do is try to kill a Po-2 in one.
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>>121791884
Oh okay, that makes perfect sense.

>All I wanna do is try to kill a Po-2 in one.
would watch, desu
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>>121791406
>he thinks an "engine" is being modeled

It's literally just "thrust" and a table of ratios vs altitude and velocity which modifies this thrust.
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>>121792241

Whatever it is, the tables being used for the Hunter are incorrect.

Then again I don't know how anyone was expecting Gaijin to get the Hunter right in the first attempt.
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>>121792378
Small family distillery((((
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>>121792378
Once someone updates "wt-tools" it'll be interesting to see what value they used as static.
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>>121792491
>open tool
>"SUKA BLYAT" on all of the values for the hunter
>"999999999" on the power and maneuvering values on the mig
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is my game fucked???????????
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>>121791583
1946 has the excuse that it has an ancient engine.
WT has a brand new one.
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>>121792638
i kid you not, it looks almost god damn the same
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>>121792630
Server issues, senpai.
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>>121792697
I know.

Also 1946 modders are a lot more competent than Gaijin.
They even managed to make realistic homing missiles in a game that wasn't supposed to be modded like that and didn't have any homing weapons in the first place.
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>>121780813
>Implying
I pulled up after firing a single round through you, m8. So yeah what >>121781520 said, that's probably Gaijin's servers.
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>>121792920
I wasn't even that boat, I just thought it was a particularly funny part of the replay.
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pls
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>>121792758
well at least they didn't embarrassingly try to hide it "buttons" because of the profound effect it has on multiplayer

the only excellent improvement
>>
How the fuck do I play realistic with mouse-aim? Is mouse joystick better?
>>
>>121793079
Gaijin will never teach you this for some reason, but change wasdqe to controlling your control surfaces at full deflection and then set some other keys to throttle. This will massively improve your ability to respond to shit.
>>
>>121793079
>How do I play realistic with mousaim
point your mouse over planes
click
ezy
meimeis aside, If you wanna stick to them like a fly on shit the controller/Joystick is much better but youll have a much harder time hitting them
>>
>>121793079
Mouse aim is literally point and click mode. Instructor-san will bend over backwards to please you. If you want to use anything else play sim or bend over and stretch your asshole.
>>
>>121785764
how do you open your cockpit?
>>
>>121793838
You can bind it in full real and it'll carry over to mouse aim.
>>
>tfw no QT508 gf
>>
Tell me about the I-301. Is it good? How many dickings do I have to take to acquire one?
>>
>still can't bind triggers as one axis
I just want to play with gamepad.
>>
>enemy I'm tailing flies perfectly straight thinking he's at a safe distance to try and outrun me
>blast him to bits

BASED MK 103
>>
>>121794329
There's a way to, but it's a pain in the ass. Google it and you'll find a tutorial.
>>
>>121794415
The only solutions I found are to bind them as analog buttons or to increase and decrease, which is complete shit for yaw.
>>
>tfw your spitnigger teammates turn out to be actually decent
Why can't it be like this all the time?
>>
Wait.....guys, why the fuck did they remove random SB mode?

What if I want to play a vehicle in SB that isnt in the current events? I cant?
>>
>>121794635
>fly Spit XVI
>kill 4 japs
>still lose because all the other Spits died to G8Ns or Zeros and I'm left alone against what remaind of the enemy team
>>
>Going into land
>Going about 120km/h
>Deploy landing flaps
>RETRACT FLAPS
>Left one rips off before I can even react
>Plane rolls to left side and I slam into the ground and explode

Fucking why
>>
>tfw no daily dubs
>>
>>121794812

What fucking UFO were you flying that can fly at 120 kph without stalling?
>>
>>121794703
Been that way for a while senpai.
>>
>>121794930
Probably a biplane.
>>
>>121730551
I rember playing 105 in the good old days, it was literally hilarious how stupid it was.
>>
hey guys good news. 20mm mk2 hispanos can kill medium tanks! if you slow down and get very, very close to their rear
>>
>>121794935
I've not played since about January. Well that's pretty shit.

Why did they remove it?
>>
>>121795003
biplane with flaps??
>>
>>121795439
Because the queues were dead, so they funneled them into only a few nations/vehicles.

>>121795461
I know the F1M2 has flaps, I'm sure some other one does as well.
>>
>>121795439
>players like sb without markers
>tavarish we make sb now without marker)))
>devblog: we make many event per day)))))))
>next patch normal sb was removed without any changes to event
>almost 1 year later still only 1 event
)))
>>
>>121784132
your mom lmao
>>
Is Spit FR.XIV balanced?
>>
Where did all the burgers fuck off?
Haven't had Hokkaido since the patch and even allied teams are mostly bong.
>>
>>121792630
Um, that's related to account deletion. Better contact gaijin support asap.
>>
>>121796001
really? I always get hokkaido against fleets of b-17s/24s/29s and the occasional bearcat.
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>>121792630
Lol, someone got b&
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>>121796001
>tfw playing a burger with a bong so we never have to play shitty fucking hokkaido
>>
Why in fucks name, for all the time this fucking game has been out do you still have to grind for a fucking repair kit and a fucking fire extinguisher in your tanks?
>>
So, what is the historical justification for the Sabre/Mig-15 rebalance?

Or the German/American shell nerf for that matter?
>>
>>121796001
I keep getting it in my Bongs, also keep losing because the team can't coordinate to take down a lone B-29.
>>
>>121796323
>GER/US shell nerf
Probably to push Bong tanks in all honesty
US 76.2mm AP shells are OP as fuck right now, in accordance to the 17pdr being 76.2mm so they probably just use the same gun in the engine.
>>
>>121796323

Shell mechanics are very complicated in reality.

No-one really knows how to simulate them in a game. because there's always more factors that can be introduced.
>>
>>121784132
Narwhal
>>
>>121796323
>Sabre/Mig-15 rebalance?
It was Sabre's turn to get ground to dust under the wheel of fotm.
Gaijin doesn't need any more justification than that.
>>
>>121796435
>Shell mechanics are very complicated in reality.

Yes, they decidedly are, that's why I thought they were just sticking to WW2 B&G or accepted domestic tests. I have no clue where the new values are from though.
>>
>>121784132
the pbjs are ok i guess. i like it when i can manage to set some poor vulture on fire rather than letting him have an easy kill
>>
Why do Tanks pay out so little credits unless you're lolcade mode?
>>
>>121796827
Because Gaijin hates the RB/SB community
>>
>>121796827
Gaijin will eventually remove RB/SB as arcade is easier to half-ass and shekel.

They just want to slowly reduce the player count in those modes so their removal seems justifiable.
>>
>internet dissapears mid-dogfight

JUST
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>>121797526
Thanks, senpai.
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>>121797526
thx, faggot
>>
>>121797526
>3 (You)s

Ta lad
>>
>>121797709
only 2 for me
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>>121797526

Go to bed, Amerikun.
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>>121797526
>tfw two (you)s
Feels good
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>>121797709
>13
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>>121797962
fuck off
>>
But who was slav?
>>
>>121798063
Get bent, nigger.
>>
>>121798131
I'll pass pedophile
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>>121798158
Nice meme, have any fresh ones? This one is kinda stale.
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>>121798206
>is a pedophile
>thinks it's a meme

o am i laffin
>>
Did they roll back the banned people in the end?
>>
>>121798265
>Shitposter thinking people take his posting seriously
It's like Anton is really here.
>>
>>121798206
>he deludes himself into thinking it's a meme
>>
>>121798338
>he keeps shitposting
>>
>>121798317
stop embarrassing yourself
>>
>>121798426
Because I care so much what you think.
>>
>>121798413
you're doing that too smartass, go molest your loli or something
>>
considering trying AW. how is the grind compared to this?
>>
>tfw no loli to molest
>>
NEW THREAD
>>121798573
>>121798573
>>121798573
>>121798573
>>121798573
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>>121798498
>I-I don't care what you think, I just keep responding because I have n-nothing better to do
>>
>>121798206
Is that what you say to your loli about her holes?
>>
Is there any tank in this game more useless than the Panther

>Can't pen anything frontally at its BR
>T-44's bounce shots off no matter where you hit it
>Can be penetrated frontally by a strong gust of wind
>>
>flying the seafire
>watching my lions hemorrhage out because of the awful repair cost

why the fuck is it so high?
>>
>>121799656
>implying Russian bias

reddit my friend, many Germans there to sympathize with you
>>
>>121732316
200 what
mph? That's an INSANE landing speed for a WW2 fighter, it's nearly 1960s jet interceptors tier. Even if you meant kmh, it's still high. Aim for touch down at less than 180, and don't fall like a rock - use your fucking flaps.

The Typhoon landing speed should be somewhere around 110mph

The Spitfire lands at even slower speeds, 85 mph flaps down, or less than 140 kmh.
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I haven't played in a while but I loved my Panther. The high velocity gun is amazing at long range, and I found the frontal armor to be very good, with a little bit of angling.

Also it was mobile as fuck.
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