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Mother of Demons edition

Last thread: >>121595893

>109 Patch
Adds new content, breaks old content, buffs and nerfs items.
Patch notes never

Azazel nerf is BUGGED, supposedly. 9mb patch MAY have fixed this.

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that HUD that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.

>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: FHRD S1N1 (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)

2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)

3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.

4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
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first for eat your steak slowly
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>get Krampus commercial when watching Isaac videos
lol
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Bob's Brain is a legitimately good item in almost any situation and if you don't like it you're just bad at the game.
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I want to sexualize Little Horn.
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>>121673831
Step1: Open https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFLiKLoxWD8
Step2: Go to https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2/releases/tag/v1.3.1
Step3: Click on pic related
Step4: Use Winrar and open up the file
Step5: Run "MissingHUD2.exe"
Step6: Open up Binding of Isaac
Step7: This is not my beautiful house
Step8: This is not my beautiful wife
Step9: Eat your steak you piece of shit
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>>121677818
nice virus
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>yfw steam sale stacks
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dark bum is actually still godlike compared to most of the dogshit items put into this game
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which isaac would you fug????
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>>121677649
>Old Men in my game about little childen crying on shit while playing dress up

Edmund pls you're making lillith cry
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>>121677878
>>121677757
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>>121677649
Is that the new character or something?
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>>121678034
lil is crying because she's getting her little girl cunt ripped open by spawning lil brimstone
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>>121678075

Yup, it's the Keeper

There are currently 10 hidden achievements left, and it's known that one of them is for Afterbirth's "platinum god". The other 9 are likely unlocks for Keeper
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>>121678034
I want to take off her blindfold.
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>>121678180
Neato. He kinda looks like Noah or something, I wonder how he'll play and how he relates to the story.
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>>121678034
I want to impregnate Lilith.
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>>121678703
Just punch her on the arm a few times. That's how it works in isaac.
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>greed machine keeps jamming before I even hit 5%
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Did anyone else see Smegmund's response to community complaints on Leddit? For those who didn't, allow me to summarize what he addressed and how he responded:

>Scaling Health
"I don't feel this is an issue at all"
>Book of Belial/slimmer Devil Deals
"I think it's much better balanced this way"
>Azazel
"I forgot what and meant for a second so next week it'll be "addressed""
>Ultra Greed
"Something bugged tied to "Something is Terrible 2" and it's still too hard but it's all tyrone's fault so don't worry"
>Tiny Rooms
"I hear you but I think unfair damage is fun"
>Guaranteed Damage Rooms
"What? I'm sorry, I don't playtest my own game, so I wasn't aware of these"
>Shit Curse/Secret Rooms
"Important because when risking things you should have the chance to come away with jack shit"
>Penalizing Item Pickups
"I feel it's not a problem and in fact very balanced"
>Tumor
"Again, I didn't know because we don't playtest the shit we make"
>Retro Vision
"I know some of you people are experiencing legitimate physical pain from it but I like this effect so for it stays"
>Glass Cannon
"It was OP, so instead of trying to tone it down we went ahead and made it complete shit"
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Who is Lilith in the story? I don't see how it could be Isaac in anyway.
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>Decide to try Eden on Greed Mode
>Start with Teleport 2.0
>Sweet, I can get to the secret room with this!
>Teleport to secret room, exit door doesn't spawn
>No bombs

>Fuck it, whatever, I'll just start over
>Start with Bumbo

It hurts to live, /boig/
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>>121678991
Isaac's interpretation of his mother
OR
Isaac's representation of himself having "demons" inside (sheol/cathedral/mega satan endings) leave his body(hush ending)
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>>121678884
you need to keep playing different characters, I heard. Playing the same one over and over lowers the donation cap before it jams.
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>4th floor of XXXXXLLLL challenge
>still no attack speed or damage powerups
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>>121679186
what's wrong with bumbo? he's cool.
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>>121679392
He's in Greed Mode.
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I just beat mom and the wall broke down. I also got a devil room. Will the wall hole go away if I go in the devil room or vice versa?
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>>121679225
I don't really like either one of those. It wouldn't make since for him to interpret his mother that way considering the storys and intro and again, why would Isaac represent himself as a girl without eyes.
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>>121679625
The wall will go away after the 20 minute mark in your run.
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>>121679642
He's represented himself as a girl before. without eyes could be he's maimed himself and the incubus and cambion conception is literally him having and creating sin inside of himself.
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>>121679391
>tfw 12 red hearts
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>>121679670
thanks senpai
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>>121679748
Maggy makes more sense if the sister theory is true, though.
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>>121678112
>>121678415
>>121678703
Please don't sexualize Lilith. She's too adorable.
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>>121677570
Threadly reminder that azazel and lillith were only nerfed so you couldn't cheese greed mode and the reason they weren't changed back last patch was so you don't eat that steak in one bite. I'm so sick of this ARG bullshit and the devs sucking themselves off when EVERYONE knows who the secret character is.

Threadly reminder that dry baby needs to be nerfed.
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>tfw you do your due diligence and make your shop worthwhile
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>>121679868
I don't have to sexualize her, she was a fetish character from the start.
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>>121679823
We've even seen him unbox it and wear it. Nothing else aside from a single picture of him crossdressing supports the sister theory.
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>attack speed is my lowest stat
>pick up experimental treatment
>it gets even lower
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>>121679868
>is slut
>has horns
>remove horns
>no longer horny
>no longer slut
Remove Lilith's horns.
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>>121680029
Still, i'm still confused on why Isaac would make Lilith a girl. Maybe the keeper endings will explain it.
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>>121680172
It's not too much of a stretch, Isaac's got heaps of gender identity issues in the first place.
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>>121680172
Isn't she the MOTHER of all demons? Are they going to shit out the demon babies?
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>>121680172
>Gives birth
Gee, I wonder why she's a girl.
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>>121680104
>pick up experimental treatment as blue baby
>die
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>>121680104
>>121680282
>picking up experimental treatment
>ever
You deserved it.
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>>121680104
>pick up experimental treatment
I spotted your mistake.
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>>121680172
>>121680029
>>121679823

It's like you all forgot about Eve.
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>>121680397
>>121680373
Every time I pick it up things only get better

Stop being bad
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>MFW watching someone get IV bag as Eden in greed mode after the patch
Holy shit not only is he lucky as fuck but I actually haven't seen how broken the item is. He also just got the item that doubles how much health you get from health pickups
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forgot pic, if it matters
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guppy is still a won run in this fucking game even though there's like 6 other transforms this one still beats the dog shit out of them

almost beat hush without getting hit even once as guppy on my first run as maggy, even with no damage upgrades
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>What's that, you would like some health? Here you go bud.
Funny joke, game.
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>>121678945
Yeah. Half his responses to criticism was its a bug and the other half was fuck you.

What shitty DLC.
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>>121680892
Go into the shop or find a floating head card or something faggot
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>>121680892
>filename
My reaction exactly
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I've done all of the challenges except brains edmund, Fix the game.
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>>121680892
Slow the fuck down, you dont want to eat all that steak in a bite right?
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>>121681082
Actually I think I'm gonna go into the boss room and immediately die because it's a small boss room Pestilence and he'll fire a ipecac shot at me right away. That seems like a better idea.
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>>121681216
What is this steak shit everyone keeps talking about, i'm not in with the new memes
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>>121681284
Seconding

I've been out of the loop
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>>121681284
>>121681374
back when people datamined how to unlock the lost, edmund raged on twitter saying something along the lines of, you don't eat a $100 steak in one bite do you?
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>>121681284
>>121681374
The greed donation machine stopped at 109 originally and people asked what it meant to edmund and he responded with "Slow the fuck down". Tied with a statement one of the dev team about eating your steak in one go meant it became a meme.
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>Plebbit is pointing out fun things in the game for edmund to fix like the angel statues

What the fuck
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>>121681284
>>121681374
When dataminners found the lost, tyrone said that they fucked up and ate a one hundred dollar steak in a single gulp, edmund agreed and now he is doing time gated content to fuck with the minners
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>>121681284
https://youtu.be/UJVuLvGjPOc?t=2h17m5s
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>there are "people" in this general RIGHT NOW who don't have every challenge, including the new ones, completed
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>>121681536
>fuck with the minners
Don't you mean everyone but the miners?
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>>121681606
>implying challenges are fun
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>>121681630
originally he wanted to fuck only the dataminers, but those who didnt wannt to spoil themselves where the ones getting fucked by Edmund "Slow fucking down on that Steak" mcmillen
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I regret never having tried using a controller before. This shit is amazing.
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>>121681660
>missing out on content because you're too bad to get it
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>>121681606
Just finished mine
Wake me up when a new Lost exploit comes up so I can actually do everything
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>>121681606
The game won't give me damage/attack speed in XXXXL. I'm suffering.
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How would you fix Greed mode? it's too damn easy and there's nothing "greedy" about it. I've never had to push the stop button, and I've ever not done the 11th wave. now that i've beaten it with all the characters the only incentive i have is to get the coin machine to 999
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WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>121682007
Is that fun I see?
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>>121682007
Gnawed Leaf saved you from damage?

Time to nerf it!
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This fucking run, holy shit

https://youtu.be/NlC8_E-zVTU?t=39m45s

>>121681762
Yeah, I originally played the game on PS4 when it was free on PS+ and can't imagine what it's like playing on keyboard.
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>>121682001
I honestly don't know what the devs are trying to accomplish with greed mode. Feels like a watered-down version of the real game
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>>121682007
I can't help but find these situations amusing

Where you're stuck in gnawed leaf mode, knowing you'll have to take damage to get out
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>>121682280
>>121682057
>>121682156
>>121679935
DRY BABY
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Do you just reroll runs until you get dad's fucking key in order to fill out the Megasatan note? Because that shit is gonna take forever.
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does Death's Touch make you lose bullet speed now or am I smoking something
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>>121682347
DRY BABY
R
Y

B
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>>121682201
And he just got fucking god head. This fucking build.
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Obligatory pregnant demons post

I'm late cause I just came back from watching The Peanuts Movie

Had more fun with that than playing Isaac anyway
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>>121682434
>get an angel room
>bomb the statue
>get 1 key
>don't leave the angel room
>save and quit the game
>continue
>angel has respawned
>you have now completed the key in one floor

you're welcome
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>>121682558
>what is the emoji for good grief

when i saw that in the trailer i cringed. how was it?
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>think lost fly is shit because it only follows wall
>it singlehandedly kills an entire room of wallmasters before I can even move
>goes on to kill Famine instantly because he made the mistake of floating anywhere near it
it might not be as good as smart fly when it comes to consistently dealing damage, but at least it's better than peeper's eye. also holy shit it's got high contact damage.
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How would you rank characters in terms of difficulty?
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>>121682612
It's genuinely harmless, everything is pretty much exactly how you'd imagine it and nothing really changed. I've seen Blue Sky churn out worse shit

It's enjoyable enough and managed to get a couple giggles here and there. Basically with all the love and effort put into it, it puts Afterbirth to shame

I got what I was expecting and I'm satisfied
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>>121681061

>Getting mad now that Ed won't sacrifice his design principles for a bunch of le epic redditors
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The present bombs are pretty ridiculous.

Just had scatterbombs, present bombs and the bomberman bombs all together and each bomb I placed resulted in more consumables than a golden chest every time. Made it very fucking hard to die when all I needed to do if I wanted health was drop a bomb and collect spirit hearts and hierophant cards.

>>121682794
Unlosable: Isaac
Easy: Azazel
Normal mode: everything else
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>>121682876
>Azazel
>easy

I'd rather play blue baby.
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>>121682446
FART BABY
A
R
T

B
A
B
Y
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>it's a "effect upon being hit" item
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Here we go
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i've been sitting here for over an hour trying to reroll a stopwatch on the lost with the d4 and no luck

maybe i should just take a dry baby and go from there, i've seen like 40 of them now
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>>121683132
>Cambion Conception
>Not the lewdest shit

Some great items in Isaac are the ones where you get hurt. It just shows how fucking stupid Ed was to design The Lost in the current state the game is in
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>get Platinum God from the achievement bug
>don't actually have to play The Lost now

Once I beat Hush/Greed with all the normal characters I'm out of here
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>>121681594
> this is edmund mcmillen, hes the head behind duper meatboy and binding of isaac, hes a good friend
> hes a good friend
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Don't worry guys I'm working on a BoI-esque game with cute stuff and magical girls instead of poop and babies

See you in 2020
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>>121683545
Eh, it kind of loses some the charm. As long as the rules and balance aren't batshit retarded like Afterbirth, it might get popular. But much of Isaac is loved despite or because of the controversial nature of the game
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>>121683684
I play isaac because it fuels my latent addiction to RNG without needing to actually gamble.
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>>121683545
Wait for reterds to cry UHH ISAC RIPOF
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Deleted Greed mode when

>Fight Little Horn and Double Cages in the fucking Depths
>Pick up Bomber Boy after miraculously surviving
>Take Explosive Diarrhea pill from Coin Purse
>Get my cunt razed
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>>121683828
The combat will actually be more like a bullet hell and less like a retard simulator
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>>121683921
So you will do 2hu-zelda hybrid in touhou universe or something else?
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>>121681606
#24 won't unlock on mine for some reason.
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>>121681606
How come only my challenge #24 is locked?
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>>121684005
Basically, yes, that's the idea.

Maybe some JPRG-like progression and dialog with a persistent world in the sense the NPCs remember you between playthroughs and such
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DRY BABY
R
Y

B
A
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Y
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>>121684535
Holy mantle makes all those no damage achievements a joke.
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>>121684681
Your a joke
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>>121684681
gnawed leaf is too strong, i've beaten mega satan like 3 times in the past day just using it and orbitals/farting/dry baby
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I've had worse Eden starts?
Spiders getting off my dick is a huge plus
>pokeball is 4 charges
Makes absolutely no fucking sense
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>>121684817
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I don't know if it's the nails or mirror shot causing it but I've just had to end a run because the combination with orbiting tears is bugged as fuck.

Causes about half the nails to just spawn on the spot and not do anything until you move (where they fall to the ground).
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>>121684926
scratch that, make it 4 times
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BRAVO ED

BRAVO
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http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Babies#tab=Afterbirth_Babies
>Edmund was too busy with this shit to make a working game

Bravo
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Do Devil and Angel rooms even have items anymore? Fuck
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Guys, after I got the 3 bum familiars they combined with some cutscene into a super bum or so?
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>>121685336
Any way to fix this?

I had a good feeling about this run, too

Restarting Isaac didn't fix it, shooting the poop does nothing.

I reckon Carrion Queen can do this to normal buttons, too
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>>121685612
Sure am enjoying this delicious steak
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>Blinding Baby is still bugged
EDMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUND
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>>121685756
shouldn't have poured poop/ketchup on top of the button/steak :^)
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>>121685580
He doesn't pick up red hearts anymore, but he pays out with double chests.
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>>121685830
There's a point where these steak metaphors need to stop and we've clearly passed in
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>>121685986
yeah, time for dessert !
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>>121681776
>suffer through Brains!
>manage it finally by lucking out with Stop Watch, Incubus and PhP converting tons of Bad Trips into Balls of Steel pills
>get jack shit in return

Woo fucking hoo. Thank god I savored that fucking steak.
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>>121685986
Wasn't even funny to begin with.

I mean, it was trying to call Edmund out on being stupid, but sounding retarded while doing it so it kinda defeated the point.
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>>121680172
Because Lilith has always been a girl, Anon.
As the myth goes, Eve was not the first woman created, but Lilith.
Adam was upset because every other animal in Eden had a female counterpart to bang, and he tried to bang all of the female animals but that just didn't do it for him, so he prayed to God for a counterpart to himself.
God made Lilith out of dirt like Adam, but also salt, so she was a bitch.
She was sick of Adam being on top, I guess he was pretty fucking heavy, and she refused to listen to him when he told her to do things, so he tried to compel her with force.
After that she uttered the name of God (which allowed her to fly for some reason) and promptly fucked off out of Eden.
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>Glass Cannon: fuck off this item is fucking bonkers, if you pick this up and cant figure out ways to play around it or abuse its power you are doing it wrong. this item in its current state is one of my faves.

edmund, about about YOU fuck off?
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In The Guardian challenge can mom's knife be used as a second sword?
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>>121686264
An idea I heard on Reddit is that, when you use it, you're put into a "Lost mode" for that room only. Once you leave you get your health back.
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>>121686335
saw this too, I thought it was pretty good, but unfortunately, it would be too fun
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IS THERE FUCKING ANYTHING WORSE THAN GETTING GREED N THE SHOP IN NECROPOLIS 1 AND THEN SUPER GREED IN NECROPOLIS 2

BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENED TO ME LIKE A MILLION FUCKING TIMES AND IT'S FUCKING INFURIATING
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>>121686264
Did they nerf it in any other way apart from taking ALL the hearts? I've only ever seen it after the nerf and I have had like 8+ hearts each time and opted to avoid it.
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>>121686373
Well, there's a shop before Hush anyway now.
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>>121685353
Holy fuck this shit is retarded

Why put all this effort into shit nobody will ever see

90% of these are fucking stupid for one reason or another
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>>121686398
>Got greed in that shop too

THANKS
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>>121686385
it fucking kills you if you only have blue hearts

great game design, edmund!
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>>121686517
Nah you didn't.
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>>121686521
Fucking EPIC. Good thing I didn't pick it up. I only saw it on ??? anyways.
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nomnomnom

how are you enjoying your steak?
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>>121686302
The sword just hangs there and also deals contact damage, so yeah.

>>121686385
Yeah, seriously. I haven't found it since after the update. Did they make it take away your Spirit Hearts, take your heart containers or is it just fucking weak now?
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>>121686636
it's a pretty damn good steal considering I pirated it
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>>121686696
>tfw you will never pirate a $100 steak
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>>121686636
enjoying it in a way deemed favorable by its cook :)
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Fourth floor and these are my items...

I'm just gonna quit out now.

Just for an added kicker, I've had fuck all pills too.
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>>121686741
>tfw we can 3D print food now
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>>121686790

God dammit picture

>2 minute reply timer

wut?
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Give me ideas for ebin mods

Sounds, music, graphics, whatever, Afterbirth has made me give up on treating BoI seriously
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>>121686930
item:
>salted steak: Gives you one red heart but does one heart damage if you complete a room faster than 30 seconds
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>>121686930
>Give me ideas for ebin mods
make a mod that actually fixes the game
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>>121687054
Noted, see you in 2020 +1 fa.m

>>121687063
Will fixing shit rooms and item pools be good enough?
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GOD I FUCKING
HATE
HATE
H
A
T
E

FIRE MIND

I HAVE TAKEN MORE DAMAGE FROM FIRE MIND MORE THAN ANY OTHER GOD DAMN ENEMY/ABILITY/EFFECT IN THIS FUCKING GAME

IT'S SUCH HORSE FUCKING SHIT
IT'LL NEVER ACTIVATE WHEN THE ENEMY IS ACROSS THE ROOM BUT WHEN THE ENEMY IS RIGHT ON TOP OF YOU, IT'LL ACTIVATE EVERY SINGLE TIME

SUCH
FUCKING
BULLSHIT

FUCKA'S;DFKJHAS;DLGKJHASD;LFKJHASD;LKJGFHASD;LFKJHASDLF;KAHSD;FLKAJHSDGF;LKJANH
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>>121687520
git gud
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>try to go for a speedy run with Isaac
>this happens
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>>121687520
You can try not picking it up next time.
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>>121686741
You wouldn't download a steak, would you anon?
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>>121687603
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Is dry baby a good item?
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>>121687710
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>>121687520
>MORE THAN ANY OTHER GOD DAMN ENEMY
>even more than those tiny spiders the randomly skitter around

I don't believe you
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Post more lewd Isaacs
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So can we talk a bit about how Serpent's Kiss is fucking bullshit? It's basically Common Cold, which is already decent, but with a really high chance of just throwing Black Hearts at you.

And how about Toxic Shock, which can trivialize a lot of the really annoying rooms in the game?

Never mind Dry Baby, these two plus a couple damage ups basically make a won run on their own.

>>121687520
Be better at the game. Chance to cause explosions and DPS is pretty fucking good in my book. Only shot effect that's more fun is Holy Shot!
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>>121687550
It's because you're using the filter
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>>121687853
At least I'm not the only one who thinks these fucking things are the most annoying enemies in the game. Fucking spiders. And then you find Bursting Sack and suddenly none of them spawn anymore anyway...

>>121687550
That's the most annoying room in chapter one, hands down.
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>>121675196
>eve
>bad
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>tfw beating Hush with only half a heart and no oribitals

Made my dick rock hard
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>>121688038
> And then you find Bursting Sack and suddenly none of them spawn anymore anyway...
Oh my god
Thank fucking god it's not just me
It's happened at least 5 times now
Get it second floor fucking CELLAR and I get absolutely no spiders
Shit is mindboggling.
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So is Hush supposed to be nigh on immortal? I had a completely rediculous build that killed It Lives before it finished spawning,and it barely scratched Hush.
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>>121688294
He scales with your damage.
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>>121678945
>"Important because when risking things you should have the chance to come away with jack shit"

I don't like Edmund, but you do know that is the definition of risk, right?
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>>121688335
Oh, so Edmund is completely retarded. Gotcha.
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>>121688395
Same goes for Ultra Greed, by the way.
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>>121688335
it seems like he has a damage cap to purposely drag out the fight
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>>121688395

>I want to instakill everything!!!! WHY DOESN'T ED CATER TO PEOPLE WHO WANT ONE-SECOND BOSS BATTLES!!!!!!
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>>121688501
Don't you have a steak to eat Edmund?
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>on basement 2
>already 2 guppy items

>>121688501
But that makes damage a completely irrelevant stat.
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>>121688501
Nice strawman, faggot. I never said anything of the sort. If you luck out/cheese the game and get good items, you should do more damage. Making the bosses scale that way is silly. At least to this extent.
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>>121688501
To me a scaleable boss fight is fine but :
a) The scaling has to be less retarded in how it handles itself
b)the rewards needs to be pretty damn good.
I feel like doing the hush isn't worth the trouble at the moment but give it a guaranteed angel item or something at the end then maybe I'd consider it.
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What are you homos listening to while playing BoI?
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>>121688573

For an optional boss battle that's meant to gauge your skill, and not how many damage-ups you can D6 into
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>>121688648
>gauge your skill
>random bullet hell attack
>tornados that fuck you up if you don't have enough speed
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/boig/ have you had any recent runs with high damage you didnt expect to happen?
>cricket's body
>chocolate milk
>twenty twenty
>book of belial
>car battery
i was a litteral shotgun at short range
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>>121688648
>optional boss battle
>required for 100% completion
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>>121688709

>Hush
>Random

Don't you have a daycare to be coddled at, anon?
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So the super bloat can do an unavoidable laser blast at you the second the boss fight starts.

I love having runs ended by bullshit like that.
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>>121688648
Space Funeral

>>121688791
I think they mean that one spaghetti attack you can avoid by standing still.
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>>121688726

Soy milk + tractor beam.

makes two shit tier items into god tier.
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>>121688726
It is my firm belief that Chocolate Milk is one of the best items in the game
Easily top 10 for me.
then again, making a tier list for this many items is just ludicrous
1) Godhead
2) Sacred Heart
3) Brimstone
4) D6
5) Chocolate Milk
6) Abaddon
7) Trinity Shield
8) The Pact
9) Holy Mantle
10) Polyphemus/Proptosis

I know for a fact that I'm missing some amazing items but I can't think right now
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>>121688643
>not listening to the game music

Pleb
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>>121689028
Why does that man put a banana on his steak?
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>>121688643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR4Hjx7-QKw

Bretty good song.
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>>121688951
Tractor Beam is good though.
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>>121689062
The same reason people put pineapples on their pizzas.
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>>121689116
To make the emprah cry?
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>>121688643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpSHC1dqX1o
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>>121689062
You're retarded
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>>121687880
Common Cold might as well be ripped out of the game at this point.
It's massively outclassed by both Serpent's Kiss and Scorpio.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbrIFFgUXrM
>And the hevans have opened, and god reached down into my life and said upon me:
>"Rek thigh scrbs an fuk ther sht ahp"
BEST JOKE!
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OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>121689198
Sexy.

>>121688967
Why would I?
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is azazel fixed yet?
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>>121689273
RIP
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>>121688573
>curse of blind
>strange attractor
WHAT A DELICIOUS STEAK
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>>121689349
No, he's still shit.
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>>121688643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfEUXmKoJQo
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>>121679935
>Got dry baby first floor 3 runs in a row

Praise be to the egg man
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>>121688965
magic mush
20/20
pyromaniac
dark bum
deaths touch
the wafer
the relic
moms knife
dr/epic fetus
mulligan/moms wig
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>use a sacrifice room as eve
>a chest
>the chest drops a red heart
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>>121689228
>>121689116
I don't get it is this are meme?
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>>121688965
Toxic Shot + Flaming Shots + 20/20 + All of the mushrooms
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How's your steak going?
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Post yfw you get curse of the blind
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>>121690363
pretty good so far, I have a 6 win steak with Eden
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>>121690363
Is that motherfucker cooking his steaks with lava?
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>orbiting tears
It's convenient for bosses, but utter shit with everything else.
This may be the most annoying tear effect I've yet encountered. Even worse than that laser AOE.
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>>121690480
Yes? What do you cook your steaks with?
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Should I take the risk and get an IV bag/get fucked up by blood bag?
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>>121690828
You have the stopwatch, you already won so go for it.
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Why the fuck do I always get shitty items ;_;

This is with the D6 too
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>>121690958
Fuck off.
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>daily run
What is this?
Some kind of key run joke?
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>>121688643
The original BoI soundtrack.
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>Mutant Spider stacks with Inner Eye now
oh boy
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>>121690958
>Ipecac and Sack Head
>Not Good
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>121690958
You don't even deserve a (You)
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>>121690958
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>Run going great, insane firespeed, can shred stuff fast
>Suddenly get two new items at once
>Fruit cake
>Rainbow worm
OH GOD
WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING
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Doing Pride Day challenge
>rainbow baby
>rainbow worm
wait a minute something is bothering me
>Pride day
>Rainbow
Did they just put gay propaganda into the game?
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>complete everything in rebirth
>only play as Isaac, Eden and sometimes ???
>only go to the chest, never go to the dark room

>will eventually complete everything in afterbirth
>will never play any of the extra shit that was added such as Lilith, hush and greed mode as they just have long, drawn out fights (also no IV bag for occasional overpowered runs) that make all the effort before them completely worthless.
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>>121691340
Edmund is a SJW. He's also against GG. I hope ur butthurt nao. :)
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Just kill me now
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>>121691374
I'm more butthurt about the game going to shit than this.
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>>121691368
Lilith+Greed mode is pretty fun desu senpai.
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>>121691443
>nerfed box
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So secret rooms don't work with tiny rooms.
It was super greed anyway.
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>>121691478
Still fun.
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>>121691340
>propaganda
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>>121684408
Sounds nice, you have my respect.
Took literally 3 hours to send this. Hear that sound? This is my butt exploding somewhere in the Nirvana.
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>>121691374
>against GG
how can you be against GG? it's like being anti-watergate or anti-volkswagen-scandal
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>>121691793
Don't derail our delicious steak cargo train, m8.
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>>121691039
Mom's knife and cross-tears.
This is insane.
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>>121690893
I died at double fatties because I got curse of the tower because ANOTHER FUCKING CURSE OF THE BLIND.
is there a mod that removes curse of the blind? please?
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>>121691915
Black candle mod
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>>121691973
I only want curse of the blind gone, because I'm okay with the other ones.
>>
Afterbirth is the first game I've ever bought that I legit would/will be more happy leaving my Steam in offline mode so it never patches from launch day, than patch and get to play with the extra time-gated items along with all the absolutely bullshit, fun draining nerfs that have been/are being added with every patch.

Eggmund is prioritising nerfs over bug fixes, that's just fucked up yo.
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>>121692183
If you're playing only for fun and not unlocks, there's a seed.
BRA1 LLE
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>>121691494
What if you bomb it from the other side?
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You know, Im not a big fan of rebirth's take on ost, I prefer the original way more. Especially tracks like womb and sheol make me throw up, but new scarred womb ost is fucking fantastic I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32tefmsK0tM
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>>121692795
You appear at one of the doors for some reason.
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can you not
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>>121687520
>playing as the lost
>get fire mind on the floor with Curse of the Blind
>"oh I can see where this is going"
>walk into a tiny room
>it has charging enemies in it or some shit (bonies or sth I don't remember)
>I walk in from the top, they spawn close to me, I start shooting
>Dear Diary,
>Today, I died.
>XOXO, The Lost

Should have gitten gud, I guess. Well to be fair it was my fault for not using D4 the instant I picked that item up.
>>
Soy Milk + Libra + Continuum + The Wiz

Holy fuck the screen is full of bullets and the angles are so awkward that all the Knights and Carrion Queens die even without Piercing.
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>>121688189
How do you dodge the looping shots consistently? Just going to the sides still gets you git by the odd random shot.
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>>121693084
Post a screenshot of it.
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>>121693279
Just stand in the corner.
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>>121693279
When he's shooting up or down, go to the left and right sides, when he's shooting left or right try to stay in the corners until he's done shooting and then go to the side where he was shooting at.
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>>121693279
Apparently standing still works?
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Cursed Eye is top tier in Greed mode because if you teleport out you have to fight the waves again and earn more money
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>>121693548
Anon , erase your comment before edmund finds out and removes another item from greed. At this rate we're going to fight ultra greed in purist mod.
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>>121693692
we'll need an isaac version of this soon
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>>121693548
Uhhh.

You have to beat the boss at the end, anon. The one that is a long fight regardless of your damage that can easily hit you when you're charging.
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>>121693779
You amass infinity money and then buy a reroll dice and then buy an actually good run. Cursed Eye has no downsides.
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Does Brimstone synergize with Deadeye or is it a dead item?
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>>121693968
Wiki says no synergy.
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Oh my god
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On the daily run, Catacombs 1.
Which one to pick?
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>>121694227
Shit, forgot the picture.
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>>121693312
Can't. Was my very first Afterbirth run and forgot to.
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Hey guys did you like all this new and various items?
>Void of the maw is black circle
>Circle of protection is white circle
>Censor is flying aura circle
>Friendly ball
>Portal gun is 2 circles
>Tech x
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>>121694195
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>>121694454
I like Tech X
>>
SERIOUSLY

FUCK BUTTON ROOMS

FUCK

THEM
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>>121693757
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>>121694516
*Curse of unknown
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>>121694195
What am I looking at here?
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>>121694747
Brimstone + Ludo = Flying laser circle of fuck
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>>121694195
Enjoy that unavoidable damage from door barrels.

>>121694454
Yeah, fuck emud for using simple shapes!
Isaac's head is a circle as well, get some originality!
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Should i pick it?
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>Onan's streak challenge
>Orbiting tears
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>>121694915
No.
Mom's knfie sucks against hush.
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>>121694915

Only if your tears are trash and you have high range
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>>121694915
the fly? yeah

brimstone + mom's knife = garbage
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>>121694516
>>121694595
**Curse of the blind
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>>121694838
triangle , rectangle , exagon , ovale , square
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>>121681489
What's fun about Angel statues?
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>>121694987
>no items
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>first time fighting Hush
>defeat first phase
>"well that wasn't so bad"
>mfw second phase
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>>121694937
Fuck Onan's Streak, seriously. All items that are good in it are absolutely awful to actually fight.

>Yay, very precisely, slow firing super damage tears
>room full of swarm flies

Best item in it is, again, the fucking Incubus because at least HIS shots don't cause you damage. Oh, and Technology 2, because you technically don't "fire" that.
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I've just finished my first ever Lilith run. I played Greed Mode.
The first item in the golden treasure room was a 20/20.
That felt good. That one item basically turned my run into a pre-nerf Lilith experience.
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>tfw still no anti-gravity and knife synergy
>tfw still no Za Warudo

;_;
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>>121695175
Or Ludo
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>>121695503
Didn't dare to pick that up. Does it actually NOT cause you perma-damage? Then again, Ludo without Brimstone / Technology is actually pretty shit, especially against fast crap.
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>>121695175
>first Onan's Streak run
>Get ???'s only friend
>Get a Succubus
>Get BFFs
>mfw don't even have to fire a tear for things to die.
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>>121695697
Your tear never falls down so it's not a miss
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>>121694838
>Enjoy that unavoidable damage from door barrels.
He's in greed mode ya dingo.
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>>121695861
The treasure room still spawns in variety, and one variety has door barrels.
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>>121695175
>do onans streak
>1st item is Lusty Blood
>win
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>>121695341
At least I can get this
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Is there a MissingHud link for afterbirth?
Can't seem to find it.
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>>121696468
not yet
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>>121696468
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2/releases/tag/v1.3.1
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>>121695175
>isaac's heart/rotten baby/tech/ludovico/brimstone/moms knife/pretty much anything that changes your tears
>win

it's so easy to break that challenge, just hold R until you see an item room with a decent drop
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>>121696564
wait a second

do you mean you can chose when to have fun by holding R?

I got to call tyrone about this
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Ha ha, really funny, game.
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>>121696892
All fun must stay behind the bars of my epic trolling.
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>get to hush with low damage
>can't kill his blue gapers
What's the point of the damage scaling then?
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shit
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>>121697272
Press space.
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>>121697272
exit and continue
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>>121697272
pause, exit, continue
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>>121697272
Exit game and continue?
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>It'll be adressed in next week's patch

Wanna be about some "bugs" being adressed and thus new content unlocked?
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>>121697272
>not liking bob's brain
Literally free damage
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So why is my double shot not working?
Why am I even bothering unlocking the garbage item that is celtic cross?
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>>121697707
Tractor beam makes all bullets go in it's straight line. For example: when I had the parasite and the shots split, they continued to go in the blue line instead of sideways.

Celtic cross is good
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>>121695697
>item that may either kill me or make the run unlosable
>let's just skip on it for now
Fucking idiot.
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>>121691659
I appreciate it, Anon.
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So bible is now a boss drop.
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>>121698025
You have Rosary you asshat.
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>>121698025
>I'm dumb
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>>121697707
both of your tears have been pushed into the same spot by tractor beam, you still have both shots they are just overlapped.
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>>121697707
>celtic cross
>garbage
It's basically a random chance polaroid

>>121698025
Rosary causes the Bible to drop in every item pool.
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You enjoying your steak, /boig/? Remember to chew slowly.
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>>121698065
>>121698117
>>121698223
>I forgot
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Revenge Fly is strong as fuck
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>>121698223
>>121697856
Pretty fly has more defensive value.
Losing half of your fucking health pool to activate some invincibility is pretty crappy.
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>>121697948
>on Depths 2
>have the first legit good Onan's Streak run going
>do I sacrifice what's probably a won run for the chance to get something good?
Yeah, I guess I'm an idiot, not throwing my steak into the trash
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>>121698657
Don't lose half of your health then
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>>121698757
>the item is good you just have to never get hit so it never activates so you never take damage!
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>4 consecutive negative pills
>2 Krampuses in Sheol, plus a third one with Satan
>one half red heart drops in the last 2 floors
>get Satan to 1% health before he goes all hooves
>die to his laser
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>121698839
The item is good you just want everything to be a holy mantle or a brimstone and bitch and moan when you get less. Celtic cross is good. It's not incredible by any means, it's not bad either, you don't lose half of your health for it to activate.
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>>121699050
are you having fun yet?
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>>121681061
Dude you understand that this is how edmund works, right? He's having a laugh. Especially about all the turds here and on reddit. Because they are the minority, and everyone else is enjoying the dlc just fine.
You people need to calm the fuck down. He's trolling you. He wants you to be angry at him. Those replies have no bearing whatsovever on reality.
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>>121699071
20% chance for it to activate when activating won't necessarily do anything for you.
There are tons of better defensive items like pretty fly, halo of flies, punching bag.
Hell a fucking dark matter or pisces is more likely to save your health than fucking celtic cross.
Every time I have gotten it it has activated maybe once a run.
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http://www.moddingofisaac.com/mod/74/kindaclassicmusicmod
http://www.moddingofisaac.com/mod/91/pureclassicmusicmod
Thought you guys might be interested in these.
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>>121699271
>You people need to calm the fuck down. He's trolling you.
oh I see, the barely working turd he said was a DLC is actually a joke
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/boig/, what items do you want to rework?
Don't feel limited to just saying one.
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>>121699592
The Wiz

it's just 100% useless
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It's time.
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>>121689737
>Use Book of Sin
>It drops a charge.
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>>121699759
use it again dumbass
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>>121699759
So? Pick it up and use the book again, what's the big deal.
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>>121699757
You can do it, Anon. I did it last night. Abused my 99 coins to spam Magic Fingers to blaze through Death/War and Greed/Gluttony/Sloth/Pride waves, because FUCK DEATH AND HIS STUPID HIGH HEALTH AND STUPID SCYTHES. had Mom's knife ipecac too, so that that nice
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>>121699757
>tfw only started playing hard mode recently
There's no reason to do the Lost completion marks on normal, is there?
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>>121698227
I have no mouth and I must chew
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>>121700061
no
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It's time. Once I beat him I got only Boss Rush left.
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Am I the only one who can't get Missing HUD to work after the latest patch?
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>>121699757
>tfw I already ate my steak
>tfw blinding baby is broken
Fuck you Edmund.
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Is there a reliable way to get to Mega Stan?

The card helps jack shit, i found it so far once for 30 runs.
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is there a good 100% completion guide? I can't keep track of everything I have to beat, with whom, how many times, with what items wtc.
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>>121700671
Reset until you get a good start.
Ignore all Devil Deals.
Once you get one angel room, destroy the angel, get the key, exit game and continue.
Angel statue will respawn, destroy it again for the second piece.
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>Playing the new save
>Cain time!
>Find proptosis and interdimensional baby
>Fun
>Next floor curse
>Accidental permanent wizard

I'm sure you hard coded that one Edmund
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>>121700856
I was hoping to actually use the card with devil deals because lets be honest.

Angel rooms suck a dick.
>>
What's the difference between tears up and shot speed up.
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>>121700979
Tears is rate of fire.
Shot speed is shot speed.
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Idea for a new challenge;
>Marked, Flying, long range and Spectral Tears
>Marked's cross-hair is stuck in the middle, so you need to move to shoot in a specific spot.
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>one damage up and one key in the last six or so runs

Just fucking kill me.
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>>121700958
Then there's only Dad's Key.
Another way to cheese it is find a D6, Perthro Rune or a Dice Shard and a way to get unlimited explosions.
Then just keep spawning key pieces and reroll them when you think you have enough.
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>>121699349
Thank you. Most of the time I liked DannyB's music for the game better than Ridiculon's. Enmity of the Dark Lord beats Hericide any day.

If one of the mods puts The Clubbing of Isaac somewhere in the game, that would be just perfect.
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>>121700845
>>121700845
pls
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>>121701264
Look at the credits, the first one does.
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is bumbo good
>>
Eden's Blessing works even when rerolled by the D4.
Shame you can't seed it.

>>121701859
Not too bad if you have coins to spare.
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I CAME IN FROM THE TOP
FUCK OFF GAME
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Could you guys explain to me how rerolling your items works during a challenge run? I remember that I had a few lucky full equipment rerolls in the past that allowed me to invalidate some of the Rebirth challenges.

It seems the blindfold is hardcoded and won't come off. Was it always the case?

Do some of the items essential to your challenge stay with you? I just rerolled an excellent Blue Bomber run into a somewhat weaker one. I lost Kamikaze, but thankfully still retained Pyromaniac, or some other item that gave me immunity to explosions. Was it just luck or was it intended behavior?
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>>121701859
when he is not jerky off in the corner being useless or chasing coins, yes
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>play as lilith
>get no familiars

>decide to do a run with the lost
>this happens

how could this happen to me
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>>121694915
If you were experienced, you would have known there is no choice.
Mom's knife sucks with brimstone, and is insta lose against the hush.
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oh my fucking god finally
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>>121701986
Blindfold isn't an item, so it can't be rerolled and won't come off.
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>>121702208
Rebirth supposedly has some system in place that skews the probability of items appearing towards completing a certain set/item build. Like for example if you get one familiar you are more likely to see more of them or items they benefit from in the future, picking up bomb-related items causes bomb-enhancing items have a better chance to appear, and so on.
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YES

FUCK YOU ULTRA GREED
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>Polycephalus will still pop up next to you faster than you can change movement direction
EPIC PEEKABOO GAMEPLAY, EDMUND.

Maybe you can make a turd enemy that instakills you if you don't kill it in 10 seconds, and it dives for 9.
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>>121701974
Save and exit will (probably) fix the door.
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>>121703160
No, it's that there was that shitty demon turret there and it instantly started shooting at me.
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>>121701152
Just have marked, flying, and continuum.
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>breeze through the game with technology, monstro's lung, cricket's head, chocolate milk, orbiting tears + more damage upgrades
>mfw hush
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Do you not get a notification when you unlock the Godhead?
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does epiphora affect brimstone?
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>>121703180
I'm actually so fucking sick of Curse of the Unknown
I died with a Sun Card to Satan because I thought I had one more heart than I did for the entirety of Sheol

And if you get it once, you get if for 4 floors in a row
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FUCK YES /boig/ I finally beat SPEED!
>get ipecac first floor
>blow my way through all the rooms
>book of revalations
>soul generator

things were going great until the womb 2 when I picked the wrong direction 3 times in a row and got ass slammed by those little white fuckers that chase you down. Beat mom's heart with 1 red heart left.

My hands are still shaking. Fuck you Edmund.
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>already beat everything before Afterbirth
>now have to beat Mega Satan and The Lamb on every character for some reason
???
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Which one to pick?
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>>121703545
No lie curse of the unknown is easily my east favorite curse. even curse of the blind doesn't bother me as much. I don't know what it is about not seeing my health but I get hit ten times more.
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Are requirements for Godhead still the same? Or do I need to beat greed/mega satan/hush?
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>>121703845
You also need to beat them, as far as I know.
Good luck, anon.
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>>121703765
Cross, BBF gets you killed more often than not.

>>121703845
You need to fill the postit on Hard Mode.
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>>121703765
celtic cross easily. don't want that faggot fly blowing up in your face.
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>>121703904
That's fucking bullshit. Greed is now pretty much impossible without Brim + Homing and Hush is just a major pain in the ass. Goddamn Edmund, why change the old stuff?
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greed mode with azazel is imfuckingpossible
god dammit i just want to unlock lilith
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>>121700979
tears is how fast your tears per second is.

shot speed is how far they travel and how fast they travel across the screen.
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>>121703994
>mfw even if you do unlock Godhead, chances are you'll literally never see it ever unless you get lucky with Eden('s Blessing) or acquire Chaos
>mfw it's not that amazing either
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>>121704071
EAT IT
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>>121704071
wait for him to be un-nerfed.
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>>121700845
are you retarded bruh? it's all tracked in game and you can view all the achievements in steam
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I have Brimstone as Lost
Will I win?
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>>121704416
a one-way ticket to disappointment
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>>121704147
>anything
>getting un-nerfed
ha

ha

good joke
>>
>doing "the tank" challenge
>necropolis I
>fight war
>second phase
>I'm too slow to escape him
>take 8 hearts of damage

great game design, edmund! it's almost as if you never played your own game!
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>brownie
>browny
>brony
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>>121703718
Slow the fuck down.
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Those water pillars are really annoying, even if you're fast.
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>>121704532
Welp
Good thing I snagged that sweet D100
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>>121704769
You'll love Speed!.

>>121704939
They're beams senpai.
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>>121704939
>Those water pillars are really annoying

They're not water pillars, they're TEAR BEAMS from the hush A.K.A rabid fanboys who never stops whining and crying!
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>>121704769
>doing "Speed!"
>Gemini
>Super Lust
>Mask of Infamy
>Knights
>those demon chasers
>The Bloat if you enter from the left, right or bottom sides
>The Fallen
>Krampus
>The Haunt
>literally anything that involves dodging
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>>121704769
>he hasn't tried SPEED! yet
>laughing girls.jpg

but for real enjoy about 60% of the enemies capable of doing that to you. Most of the damage is unavoidable because isaac just doesn't move fast enough.
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>>121705002
>You'll love Speed!.
just finished the tank, i'll try speed now!
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>>121705106
>doing speed
>first item room
>mini mush
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>>121703994
Hush is beatable with The Lost. You just need ORBITALS to block all his shots (yes even the continuum ones), and patience.

Ultra Greed is worse right now. The only reason I beat him half an hour ago is I had Mom's Knife BFFs Mom's Wig Jar of Flies Spear of Destiny and shitloads of Range Ups, not to mention Strength Card
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>Beans!
>2 and a half heats left in Depths II.
>No Lil' Brim or any such shit.

Is Mom even possible without 4+ hearts or a lucky Mom room setup?

Why are half the challenges unfair bullshit?
Just on the previous floor I lost 2 full soul hearts from a room that spawned 6 slime-leaving brains.

This isn't a challenge. Not giving me the means to pass a room unscathed because the "challenge" involves taking away a critical gameplay function is just bullshit, nothing else.

>Game designed around shooting bullets with arrow keys.
>You can't shoot bullets with arrow keys.
>We give you no new functionality, just a shitty Bomb modifier.
>did u rike it?

So I just have to redo this run until I get lucky with tons of health pickups, or find Little Brim in the Devil Deal. Amazing. Just reset till the game becomes viable. Such design. And nowhere near the worst of the challenges either, just a speed bump in comparison.
>>
>Not knowing that YouTubers get special "rigged" versions of Isaac from Eggmound, in order to help rake in cash and garner interest for would be buyers.
>>
>>121705752
>implying
Not even Egg's Luck can put up with some of the bullshit that Afterbirth throws at him.
>>
>>121705752
please explain why cobalt and northernlion complain also complain about the bullshit
>>
>>121705623
Beans is patience. Literally all patience.

You gotta get close to some enemies, have them chase you, bait them into your bombs or group them into the poison gas range. And the bombs scale off your damage a little, so Damage Ups help. Or just try to get Guppy's Head instead of the bean, and win with that.
>>
>>121705857

Because they're whiny bitches who still think that brimsnapping was the epitome of gameplay depth
>>
I'm going to try and beat the hush with Samson now.
Until what item should I hold R?
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wow, that was easy
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>>121706105
>Bible
>bragging about guardian being easy
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>>121705623
Or not get hit and use bombs more, you can do that too.

>>121706105
>luck:the challenge
>ez guys
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>>121706075
Bullseye, it is absolutely imb with hush, so you will beat hush anyway.
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>speed! challenge
>first item room: marked
>first boss: blighted ovum
>literally impossible
>mfw edmund thinks this is the epitome of game design
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>first time fighting Ultra Greed since the buff

oh my fuck

I like it better, the previous Ultra Greed was a pushover
>>
>>121704106

>tfw got Godhead and Soul in first floor greed mode as isaac
>2nd floor Steam sale, Lost Contact, Leech
>3rd floor Mutant Spider and The Body
>proceed to obliterate everything

Then the next greed runs are total shit

RNG is RNG
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>>121706236
>>121706326
wow there sure are some steak-less scrubs around here today :^)
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>speed! challenge
>beat first boss
>mom's coin purse
>3 speed down pills
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3s01g2/i_found_something_interesting_in_the_character/

>If you click random sometimes when the lost is on screen the screen will flash with holy mantle and the d4 as starting items

lost confirmed for best character
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>pick lost
>glass cannon, holy mantle and stop watch all spawn during the run
>get to kill hard mode hush and mega satan on the same run

based RNG gods
>>
Does picking up Deaths Touch from item room somehow locks out of Angel rooms?

Despite denying ALL devil deals and donating all my money each floor possible, still managed to get ONE angel room.
>>
>takes me 50 runs to kill mom's heart for the first time yesterday
>wake up this morning and kill it on my first run of the day

Finally starting to git gud at this game.
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D-don't let Edmund know I'm having a good run, thanks!
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>>121706967
>Lost is being casualized even more
Honestly, though, considering Eggmund McMuffin is showing no signs of fixing the "impossible to avoid damage" rooms, this is a blessing.
Plus, it means you wont have to R every time you get Curse of the Maze without the means to teleport in case it dumps you into the Curse Room.
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>>121707524
>new patch is out
>mom's knife damage reduce by a factor of 10
>holy mantle only works once per floor
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>>121707385
>50 runs just to kill mom's heart
You will never be good. Not like actually being good at the game matters at this point.
>>
>>121706967

isn't that leftover from when they were trying to figure out how to buff the lost
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>>121707824
why would it show up if they removed it? my guess is that it's time-gated content, will be unlocked next patch and eggmund mcmuffin will say it was a bug
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>entered the chest instead of entering the post mom's heart room
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>>121708123
Same thing as people finding levels that were scraped in the game files. Some idiot forgot to take it out completely.

On the other hand, getting Holy Mantle from the start would mean a lot less R torture for regular Lost players.

And it would mean I'd have a serious chance at getting Mind, Body and Soul
>>
Getting teleported on damage is the worst fucking shit.
>>
>>121709271
>he failed for the Cursed Eye jew
Classic mistake
>>
>>121706758
Why does a single-use boss item give you 4 pills if they aren't even guaranteed to be good?
Why not just make the boss drop the pills and give the player a decent item, like Wooden Spoon?

>>121709271
Drop the skull.
>>
>>121709271
if it worked like cursed skull itd be fine, or if it had any kind of fucking rules like "random chance on heart damage" instead of just being a shitshoot every time you take any damage at all
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>>121709271
>He picked up curse eye

You poor fool.
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>tfw I will have to kill Hush as the Lost
Kill me.
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been fighting this guy for 6 minutes, he's pretty broken desu
>>
>azazel
>ludovico technique
>a lump of coal
Holy fuck
>>
>>121709805
this run looks fun, you should report this bug to edmund
>>
>>121709678
>>121709359
>>121709590
>>121709649
I actually like the charging up itself.
But this teleporting is really annoying.
>>
>item room pedestal surrounded by 3 rocks and spikes on a character with no bombs or flying

FUCK
OFF
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Achievement fix when?
I want my complete fucking steak already Edmund
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>>121710261
Savor that steak!
>>
>speed up
I can't handle anything past |||.
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>Sacrifice Rooms will be completely changed in afterbirth to make them more useful
>>
how do i beat the Cursed? challenge?
>>
>>121711162
don't get hit
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>>121711162
don't be afraid to skip rooms (shop, item, challenge..) if they're too far
use your bombs to travel through normal secret rooms thus avoiding damage while farming money
be careful not to get hit
>>
>>121688643
K-pop...
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>>121711908
>bombs
haha as if i woiud get some
and also fuck Stain
who thought this was a good idea
>>
>>121700979
Tears is how many tears you can shoot
Shot Speed is how fast they go
Range is how far they go
Damage is how much power they do per shot

There
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>>121712206
>haha as if i woiud get some
you're going to at some point, this is easy mode not hard

you're looking for tips I'm giving some to you it's not game breaking but it's useful to skip 4 rooms once in a while yes

honestly when you apply what I've told you it's a fairly easy challenge
you have full mapping, item rooms and a health generator

just play it smooth
>>
>>121712389
i just did two runs and did exactly that
i was rarely hit and walked straight to the boss rooms all the time but i didn't get any bombs
i'll try again and hope i don't have to fight stain
>>
>>121712206
I hate just about all the new bosses, but Stain takes the cake. He combines every shit aspect of every boss ever. Easily dodged bullet hell tedium, burrowing mechanic, and high health pool to make for the slowest killed boss ever.
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>>121712690
I didn't meant to be mean, sorry
Worse case scenario, abuse the start I guess.

god bless, friend
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Why the fuck was Lilith tied to Azazel in the first place? I think she's literally the only character whose unlock is tied to another character next to The Lost but he's a special case

Maybe if they just made it you have to beat Greed Mode with A character and not a specific character Azazel wouldn't be nerfed

And I don't understand the prospect of fucking around with characters just because Greed Mode is piss easy
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Do I want to fuck up my run or not?
I yet have to see any of these "changes".
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>>121677721

Shit, it carried me through 5/8 of my Lost Hush run. Bob's Brain OP.
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>>121712952
isn't 5 forget me now?
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u havin a giggle m8?
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>>121713054
Yeah.
Seems it restarts the floor.
Kinda tempting, just to get even more items.
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>>121712951
3 theories:

>1
>They wanted to let you see the full extent of the Azazel nerf

>2
>they wanted to pick an easy character to clear the mode with meaning you'd have to unlock her but it's not a pain

>3
>irony. You have to beat Greed Mode with the most OP character for normal mode in order to unlock the character who's most OP in Greed Mode
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>>121677721
Bobs brain is actually a lot better now that you can't instantly fire it the second it spawns blasting yourself in the face.

Ironically the same change makes the brains challenge fucking impossible and tedious as shit.
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>>121713182
I mean if you're confident it's just more items it's up to you if you have time constraints or not
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>book of belial
>goat head
>no deal
edmund pls
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>>121713949
belial was nerfed, but I thoguht goat head was guarenteed unless you took red damage
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>>121713949
something something steak
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>>121713342
>lose for the nth time at Brains
>okay, this time for sure
>blast my way to a crawl space
>Stopwatch
>murder boss
>Basement II with like 7 Soul Hearts
>PhD in shop, spawns Balls of Steel and converts 2 Bad Trips
>Incubus in the Devil Deal
>continue to murder everything in the game
>when I hit the ??? fight the Brains are actually less damaging overall than my Incubus
>win with 12 Soul Hearts and that first Balls of Steel pill

No, it's really just skill guys. Luck has nothing to do with these challenges.
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>>121713949
what? you'd rather have it raw?
>>
Monstro's lung and ring worm is funny to watch.

>>121713353
Did the reroll, but didn't get much out of it.
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>>121714370
But the steak IS raw eggmund :^)
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How to mega stan as lost if I need devil deals to win the fucking game?

inb4 git good

i cant. ive finished literally every other post it
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"hey, let's do a samson run!"
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>>121714639

>Needing Satan's crutches to win the game
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Who else /seriouslycontemplatingquittingthegameuntilEggisdonepatchingandwefinallyhaveafinishedproduct/ here?
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>>121714639
Just re-roll into damage items anon :^)

hey at least stuff like Holy Mantle and Trinity Shield can show up in Angel Rooms if they actually decide to give you items
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>>121714947

>needing Satan's help to kill Satan
>>
Can someone explain to me what exactly Circle of Protection does?
Going from the wiki page, it sounds like The Soul light for people who can't git gud with The Lost
Having used it, it seems more like a waaaaay less damaging but permanent Maw of the Void.
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>>121715226
I'm purposefully avoiding the broken shit until next week aka no azazel and no greed mode. Been doing challenges instead.
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>>121715226
Challenges and whatever unlocks I can do, I'm mostly shooting for basic shit

Outside of fucking around with Lilith's Cambion Conception, slowly melting my way through challenges and hoping to get Super Bum sometime, it's a real slog. What I used to spend hours on in a day only became once every little while

>>121715415
It is, it also fucks up your Onan's Streak challenge when you have the Stopwatch and are fighting It Lives
>>
>get leo first floor
>get a flying item second floor
I fucking hate this shit
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who /playwithdowntempo/ here
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>>121715226
>>121715460
>mfw consolefag with RPG
>mfw don't have to worry about timegates and ARG Bullshit by the time the game reaches consoles because it'll be finished by then since Edmund is obviously stalling for time until every version of Afterbirth can be fully released at the same time
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>>121715993

dude aren't RPGs illegal to own i'm calling the police
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>onan's streak
>curse of the blind
>rubber cement
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>>121715380

I would if i could. its a chore trying to get the lost to the caves without any significant damage ups and in my 30+ tries ive only gotten poly once and fetus once. Too bad i can't avoid damage for 3 straight floors. Fuck me i guess.
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>>121716232
What is with these stories? Did the thread's brain fall out?
>curse of the blind
>hurf durf better take the item anyway
>oh no it was an item I didn't want
>how could this happen
Just don't take any items unless you know the pool is clean.
>>
how do you guys feel about sacrificial dagger
I've always been on the fence about this item
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>>121716691

it's a must have
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>>121716691
It's useful to block shots that's about it. It can do decent damage if you're good and brave enough to use it
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>>121716232
Am I missing something? Rubber Cement is really good
>>
Is there a way to limit the game's size? I want a bigger window, but without it scaling up to ridiculous size.
>>
>>121716993
>onan's streak
>>
>>121716993
in the onan's streak challenge, you take damage each time one of your tears touches the ground

with rubber cement, they don't disappear when hitting an enemy
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Which one?

>>121716993
Not on Osan's Streak, not at all.
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>>121717036
I thought onan was a player and they were talking about his streak

I guess that is a new item
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>>121716897
would you pay one heart for it in this situation
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>>121717156
>new item
anon please
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>>121717235
Personally no I would take the guppy item and leave the dagger. Guppy item not only being a piece of guppy but you need to take a devil deal to keep getting more deals.
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>>121717156
>>
beat today's daily
I got mom's knife, loki's horns, cthulhu transformation, guppy, and bunch of other stuff too

It's like the game wanted me to win
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>>121716691
I've been a lot more partial to it since the Rebirth buff

It's hilarious with Lilith
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>>121717418
I'd take both because you want to get to 0 hearts asap as Eve
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>>121717439
>>121717256
Fuck guys I'm sorry I didn't know I only did one run of Greed Mode since release
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>>121717662
But that would kill you, anon.
>>
does NL EVER do player-made challenges in rebirth like he did in vanilla isaac
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>>121717235
>Eve

I'd take both

>>121717662
Leaving one red heart as insurance is fine too, since you can still take another Devil Deal with it

I really don't understand the logic behind it. It only really affects those with a shit ton of Red HP
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>>121717662
Oh yeah if you're eve you definitely want to be at 1/0 hearts so take both.
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>brownie

simply epic, a boss with an unavoidable full screen charging bouncing attack

its like gurdy but even bigger AND he leaves creep

well done ed
>>
edmund's favorite song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEdEdaXmMMU
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>fighting Hush for the first time
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>>121717713
> g r e e d m o d e
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Did he rebuff Azazel's fucking damage yet?
This shit is idiotic
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>>121717837
Am I the only one whose never had issues with Brownie? I usually fuck off to a corner and pelt him to death from there. His shots don't seem to be hard to dodge either
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well this turned out ok

rubber cement + quad shot + worm

takes a while to charge up tho
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>>121718095
Usually I have enough damage where he's not a problem but I can see why he might be a shit.
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>>121717091

does that mean quadshot spectral tears instakill you ?
>>
Did they change Suicide King card or is it supposed to give literall shit on Hush floor?
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Judas > Cain > everyone else
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>>121718296
Chew slower.
Probably Intentional so you can't make Hush easier by acquiring items Mid-Fight.
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I may have gone too far in a few places.
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>>121718296
Sounds like you got RNGd
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>>121717837
>Brownie
>Hard
What?
He never leaps at you, only makes small leaps and you should always be shooting him from across the room
>shoot him
>he drops a small poop guy
>shoot him
>he drops a shit that throw projectiles across the screen
>shoot him enough
>turns into a much weaker Dingle
Brownie is an awesome boss
He just LOOKS big and intimidating
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>>121718417
>No Isaac
I love Judas too, but it's simply true Isaac is the only non-shit on character now

Characters need new Greed Mode starting item unlocks
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Still need dark boy.
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>>121718460
>he never leaps at you
you're fucking retarded, he has the exact same attack as gurdy, the fucking rubberband bounce all across the room that leaves yellow creep
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when are we getting the megasatan head?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YzQFbmKmgc
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the fuck is this
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>Speed!
>Blighted Ovum

Hella epic skill-based game you got there Edmund :^)
>>
>>121719236

dead eye

it's a pretty solid pickup
>>
>>121719179
Damn that's some shit quality
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>>121719236
Bad with Mom's Knife
>>
>>121719236
Dead Eye, be accurate for damage bonus
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>>121719236
Damage increases for as long as you don't miss.
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>>121719236
Deadeye, doesn't work with Brim, Knife and any spectral.

Else it increases your damage for every shot that didn't miss the enemy.
>>
So have you guys found anything, plebbit banned secrets as to not upset eggmund
>>
T-thanks Edmund, small boss room with Gate was just what i was looking for and I really love it how you decide to place door to Devil Room out of reach
>>
I just one-shot Satan as Maggie and now a great run will never feel so good again.
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>>121719867
Pic related
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>decided to have fun
>random character
>judas
>1st room is a d6
>second floor Scapulary and Sharp Plug in the shop

This game wants me to play fucking Isaac.
>>
>>121720087
Working as intended
>>
Bumbo is my favorite
>>
>NL gets Mom's knife, Tech.5, Mark, Godhead, Magic Mush 5 mins in

do i have to shave my head to get this luck
>>
>>121678945
Actually, you missed the point about scaling health.

He wants to do it MORE. As in he's considering letting EVERY BOSS have it rather than just the Hush and Ultra Greed. Nowhere to the same degree as them, but enough so that you can't just blow them all to pieces. Thank god it's only "considering".

He also confirmed that the items that boost the chance of getting devil rooms had said boosts cut in half. Because making devil rooms almost as pointless as angel rooms wasn't enough.
>>
>Bob's Brain in Basement 1
>Pyromaniac in Basement 2
>playing Blue Baby
>>
>Maggy gets immaculate conception and MAYBE guardian angel/little chad
>Judas gets Judas' Shadow and/or Judas' Tongue
>Lazarus gets Suicide King
>??? gets ???'s only friend
>Eve gets black lipstick and Razor Blade
>The Lost gets Holy Mantle
>Samson gets Lusty Blood
>Cain gets PhD

too bad none of this will happen because i have no modding experience and edmund is deathly allergic to fun
>>
>>121720768
I once had Godhead AND Sacred Heart by the end of Basement.

It was the only time I ever won with the Lost as intended without extra lives/Holy Mantle (i.e. without ever getting hit)
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>>121721394
Fuck Little Chad, and Immaculate Conception can spawn Guardian Angel anyway. Think of a Trinket

The rest is pretty good
>>
>>121721394
>Lazarus starts out with 10 random consumables/items
Fair and balanced.
>>
>>121721394
Two of those are actually in the code as unlockable starting items already, although not available yet because fuck you.

Razor Blade and Holy Mantle to be precise.
>>
remove burning basement
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>>121721767
It's not like Lazarus isn't already a shittier Isaac. His stats are exactly the same minus Luck and his extra life

If he did start off with a load of consumables it might put him on the mark with the Vanilla/WotL characters
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>>121721757

Bloody penny maybe?

>>121721767

It's better than starting out with a fucking pill.
>>
>>121721775
I could actually see Ed relenting and letting the Lost start with Holy Mantle, because you could then reroll it away with the D4 and because he wants to make a character even shittier than the Lost anyways.
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>>121721954
It mostly the items. Suicide King almost always gives at least 3 items.
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>>121721394
Judas' shadow would make judas OP.
Maybe my shadow instead?
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>>121721394
>Cain gets PhD
>Implying PhD means anything anymore
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So I fought two fucking bloats for this.
u havin a giggle there m8
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>>121722156

I actually had this mindset when I thought of that.
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>>121722215
Enjoy that delicous steak, m80 ;)
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>>121721976
Maybe Child's Heart, would work well with Immaculate Conception

>>121722068
Still, Lazarus is not anywhere close to a good character as he stands. Isaac has the D6, Judas has a fuckton of damage, Maggy's a tank, Eve's Whore buff was great, Samson having a lot more health is fantastic, and Cain now has a lock pick

His extra life only starts him out with one HP anyway, so it would be a gamble still to use Suicide King off the bat unless your Suicide King items happen to be an HP up
>>
>>121722215
Eh, that's only shitty key luck and you at least can bomb the blue fires for 2 guaranteed soul hearts.

Try the one that is literally just 6 pennies. THAT is pure fuck you.

>>121722059
>December 2015
>tier lists no longer have the Lost at the very bottom because the Keeper now is legit unlockable rather than unfinished code and would make Holy Mantle start Lost look good in comparison
>>
>>121721394

I actually forgot

>Isaac starts with NO!

Would that be a little op?
>>
>>121722371
>3 items on start
>thinking you won't get some kind of damage or health up
And then you have treasure room and boss room, and you'll probably be able to afford a shop item with all those coins you spawned.
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>>121722576
He and Lilith plspls
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Petrified Poop doesn't drop coins from The Poop in Greed.

Explain.
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>>121722576
No, because you can just reroll the spacebar items away with D6 anyways.

Give it to Lilith instead.
>>
>>121722371
Laz isn't bad he's just nothing special. For shitters you get an extra life and for good players you can just kill yourself at a sacrifice room for a chest and extra damage.

Honestly I prefer him over shit like Maggie and ???
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>>121722647

Suicide king isn't guaranteed to give you 3 items. In fact, from my experience, it isn't guaranteed to give you an item at all.
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>>121691340
I'm just mad the challenge didn't also give Fruitcake, it was p. fun as is, though.
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>>121722781
There's still that there R button.
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>defeat Speed! thanks to Epic Fetus from a D4 reroll and a Shovel from an undeserved Devil Deal to get to It Lives quick enough


Finally
man I sure am skilled at this game
>>
>>121722934

True.

Well, how WOULD you buff Lazarus, then?
>>
>>121722781
Press R lol. Even if he only spawns 5 half hearts and 5 keys you're still far ahead of any character not named Isaac.
>>
The Adversary a best
>>
>>121722978
Thanks I forgot to remove specials from the challenges pool.
Adding it to next week's patch
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>>121722647
>3 items
As if, I only get maybe one or two from it. It's not like you can say Lazarus is supremely OP still when pre-nerfed Azazel exists

Anon, think of it this way, making the characters fun is more important than how broken they are. If all the characters got these buffs nobody would stick to a specific character, they'll just have a good head start

Like why use Lazarus for just ONE Suicide King when you can use Isaac for perma-D6 or Judas for Book of Belial perks

>Captcha typing street numbers
Hello darkness, my old friend
>>
>>121709649
it does have a rule, it's not random. if you get hit while charging up your shot you will get teleported. If it's fully charged or there's no charge you won't get teleported.
>>
Does modding / altering the game files screw with my achievmebts? Or hinders me from getting new ones?
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>>121723165
Just use SAM if you want to get achievements.
>>
>>121723165

i can't remember how cheat detection works for mods

i think it only deactivates achievements if you mess with item statistics and make tinted rocks easier to see
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>>121722778
>Shit
>???

He's Isaac but with Soul Heart mechanics and no rerolling. Maggy's the same but swapping speed with another health point

It's like you guys forget Isaac's stats and how he's completely plain without the D6

>>121722934
>>121723004
Afterbirth is already press R, the game
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>>121723250
SAM?
>>
Assuming that Azazel's charge time remains nerfed but the damage is unnerfed, where would he sit on the tier list
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>>121721394
>Maggy gets her Faith
>Judas gets his Tongue
>??? gets Petrified Poop
>Lilith gets Child Leash
>Eve gets Black Feather
>Samson gets Safety Scissors
>Azazel gets Daemon's Tail
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>>121721394

>The lost starts with Holy Mantle and Toxic Shock

I'm ok with everything else
>>
>>121723359
Steam Achievement Manager
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>>121723325
So if I would give a character an additional starting item would that deactivate my achievments?
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>>121723363
>Tears up reducing charge time

I'm a patient man, he would easily be as good as I remember him being

>>121723383
>Cain doesn't start with his eye

This is probably why we're considering other solutions because characters starting with the things they lost doesn't seem to make sense
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>>121723514

i'm pretty sure that would tick it off too, yeah
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>>121723001
Placebo and Mysterious Paper. Press R for tears up.
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>>121723452
Okay. Thanks.
>>121723553
Eh. Shit.
>>
>>121723165
No achievements work fine with any kind of mod, they changed it a while ago.
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>>121723327
The D6 is what makes him good plus he has red hearts which are better for devil deals. ??? Gets fucked if you don't find tinted rocks by floor 2.

Maggie is okay cause of the red hearts for deals but in general I just find her boring. I prefer laz because he has better damage and is more exciting to play with his 1 heart.
>>
>>121710440
>Angel Rooms will be worth going to
>>
>>121723325
A friend of mine cheated to give every character a key piece and achievements still worked.
>>
>>121722745
game breaking => fun => not allowed
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>>121723001
How about PHD and Safety Cap?
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>>121724034

huh

well there you have it
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>>121724031
>Greed mode will be awesome
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A best
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>>121724031
>the game will be more fun
>>
>>121724162
I like greed mode.
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>>121724162
For like 2 days it was.
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>>121724223
>120 new items
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>>121724162
Nah, that wasn't a lie, Greed mode is pretty good.

>Soy milk will be buffed

The developers said they fixed the bug that made it only fire half as much as it should have but it's STILL THERE
>>
>>121724341
>BRAND NEW Alternate Floors that aren't just reskins with filters layered over them
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>>121724079
mmmm classic Cain.
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>>121723514
no
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>doing Solar System
>mfw I find the Gnawed Leaf in Boss Rush
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Greed mode gave me a D6 in three runs in a row.
stop
>>
>Unpack files
>Curses.txt

Oh shit, will fucking with this save me from Curse of the Blind and Maze bullshit?
>>
>>121725438
Eve should start with black candle.
>>
>>121725438

what did you use to unpack
>>
>>121725648
Rick's Unpacker
>>
So it takes like 25 minutes to beat greed mode if you find a chaos card for greed, 35 if you don't.

and you can usually put like 15 coins before it jams. My average is 12 coins per run. I switch characters but that only affects the % of breaking the machine. I already have like 320 coins in the machine so I think I only have to play like 55 more runs if I want to get the generosity achievement

isn't it fun guys?

how did that cobalt guy do it?
>>
>>121725570
Actually yeah if we can come to a consensus on what we want each character to begin with I could throw that together real quick

It's actually really simple to do yourself but this way you guys don't have to do any of the work
>>
>>121725570
Ew. Can she start with the monkey paw instead?
>>
Are we COMPLETELY sure the Keeper will suck?
I mean come on, the guy has triple shot built in, which is confirmed to synergize with other items.
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>>121726052
You think 2 black hearts is better than curse immunity?
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>The Guardian

Jesus, this challenge is annoying... I guess to is a no skill challenge where you need specific items to beat it. There is always so many rooms where it is impossible to take damages.
>>
>>121724484
>a whole new floor with a new final boss!
>>
>>121726269
Luck-base mission: The experience: The challenge: the OVA
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>>121725812
I believe the main people broke it lots of ways but the primary ones were: blankcard+2 of diamonds+battery in shop to get infinte money which means infinite items, glitterbombs+some fetus item for battery drops, and the shovel to replay the bossfight over and over again. Then the donation machine capped at 1 or 2 coins prior to jamming, so he did it over and over and over again.
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guys what happens if I pick up the thin shroom as Azazel? worth it?
>>
>>121725890

how would one go about adding trinkets to characters

i think i understand how editing items works
>>
>>121726246
I think that I don't want Eve to start with a black heart that I have to burn through to turn on whore of babylon.
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>>121725812
>how did that cobalt guy do it?
literally 5 days of playing greed mode with richard_hammer and him doing 12 hour shifts
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>>121726742
This kind of shit would happen to me, too

Sometimes I miss the gateway to Sheol/Cathedral
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>>121726550
Quicker charge time, lower damage

I think that's how Tears work for Brim
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>>121726616
Assuming it hasn't changed from Rebirth, add trinket="x" (x being the trinket ID) to the character's line.
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>>121727450

it seems to have since cain's paperclip is nowhere to be seen on his character sheet
>>
FUCKKKKKKKKK the speed challenge it's so bullshit

between having to spam R for a semi-decent items, way too fast bosses in small rooms and just compekreuytrshgfhc FUCK
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>the fucking Speed challenge
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>>121727670
It's an unlock, so maybe it's somewhere else, like Isaac's D6.
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>>121727593
Robo baby is slightly less shit.
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FUCK THIS PIECES OF SHIT AND THEIR FUCKING TANKY BLACK NIGGER LEECHES! THEY WON'T FUCKING STOP SPEWING THIS FAT FUCKS THAT TAKE ONE BILLION TEARS TO KILL! THOSE NIGGA FUCKS ALWAYS GET YOU INTO AS FUCKING CORNER BECAUSE THEY WON'T FUCKING DIE UNTIL THEY FEEL LIKE FUCKING DYING AND YOU GET HIT BY THEIR FUCKING RED BULLETS Of BULLSHITTERY! FUCK THESE ASSHOLES INSIDE FUCKING OUT!
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>ipecac
>epic fetus
>i am become guppy
>destroy literally every boss in one hit, no matter which
>hush still takes literally forever

What the fuck? Does his health scale in a really weird way?
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>>121728110

his health scales based on your damage

thanks eggman
>>
>>121728110
Edmund in his infinite wisdom has made both Ultra Greed and the Hush have damage limiters.

I haven't tried, but I've heard if you wait 2-3 seconds, the limiter will reset in order to recalibrate.
Attack again, and you should do regular damage until it recalibrates, at which point you wait 2-3 seconds for it to reset.
>>
>guardian challenge
>room full of spikes with switches on oppposite ends
just fucking kill me
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>>121728074
Yet they're somehow still not as bad as the Spider Hives.
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>>121728542
Getting the ones that pop into BBS make me want to cry.

They're like little Envies.
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>play greed mode
>get on the last floor
>then this
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gg
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>it's a "Hush won't get out of the fucking ground" run
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Should I torrent the PC version of Rebirth and Afterbirth or just continue playing on PS4 and wait for the final version of Afterbirth to hit PS4. I haven't played much or unlocked a lot so i'm not worried about losing progress or anything. Greed mode looks really fun.
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FUCK HUSH GODDAMN
how the fuck am I supposed to kill it when it gets to 10% hp and just hides while shooting constantly? and for the brief moments it does pop up, I have to dodge all its shit and can't be in position to hurt it. it's so fucking stupid, I lost a pretty decent run to that faggot.
>>
>>121728749
This is the best fucking steak on the planet, first disappearing bosses and now bosses that just don't show up in the first place.
>>
>>121728974
Slow the FUCK down
>>
Has anyone tried beating Greed mode in 20 minutes or something?
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>>121727670
No, it still works. I tried giving Isaac trinket 10 (Wiggle Worm, it turns out) in that way and it worked.
>>
I wanna fuck the hush
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g-guys

help?
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>regular Isaac
Jesus it's so ugly
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>>121729342
>almost 2016
>still playing the original game
It's all your on fault.
>>
>>121729342
>filters
wait
>>
>>121729342

jesus christ vanilla and WOTL were some ugly shit
>>
>>121729342
Exit game.
>>
>>121729342
eww what the fuck is that game? look like shit desu senpai
>>
>>121729342
What game is this?
>>
What will happen when the greed donate machine will be filled?
>>
Okay fags let's build a character

1-2 decides which character we build off of (no Eden or Azazel)
2-3 decides which item they begin with
4-5 decides another item they begin with
6-7 decides which trinket they begin with
8 decides how many coins they begin with
9 decides how many keys they begin with
0 decides how many bombs they start with
Dubs decides how many soul or black hearts they begin with

Remember that except for character, "none" is an accepted response
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>>121729342
There is no help for you now.
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>>121728908
pls answer
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>>121729782
Greed mode gets boring really quick.

Honestly, complete everything in Rebirth where it's easier.
>>
Have Hush's Gapers always been able to drop half hearts or is that new?

>>121729706
You get an achievement.
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>>121678945
"I hear you but I think unfair damage is fun"
kek
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>Hush doesn't spawn in on challenges that end on It Lives

Fuck you Eggmund, this awesome run gone to waste. Oh well, Pride Day and Have a Heart are complete meaning I got all the catharsis out of the way

Last challenge left is Brains
>>
Whats the best way to get angel deals for the mega satin fight? I just got 4 deals between the basement2 and dank depths2 and turned them all down, donation machine jammed at 2 coins in.

>>121729913
You probably have gimp mask.
>>
>>121730186
You can't get unlocks on Challenge, brah.
Only the Challenge itself counts
>>
>>121730245
Oh that's what was doing it. Realized it must have been something I had since everything in Sheol is dropping half hearts.
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>>121730327
So? I wanted to fuck up Hush with Triple Mom's Knife and all the keys and cash I had to filter the shop

You know, fun
>>
>>121729712
Judas
Polyphemus
None
Whip Worm
None
1 coin
None
1 bomb
1 soul heart
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>>121730471
>fuck up Hush
>with triple mom's knife
>with only red hearts and no polaroid

You would have died. Not joking.
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today's daily is pretty fun
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>>121730471
>>121730730
>fun
EDMUNDDDDDDDDDDDD!
>>
>>121730645
>Not noticing the Guppy's Paw I had

It would've been a war of attrition, but I just wanted to use my keys and cash on something
>>
>>121730636
Whip Worm it is
>>
does beating hush give bonus points on the daily challenge?
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Delicious
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Okay.
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>>121732140
kek

You can still open it if you're careful
>>
>>121732140
use Emergency Contact to get out of there
:^)
>>
>>121732140
Use a bomb to move it.
>>
Did Ed say anything about Blinding Baby other than "slow the fuck down"?
>>
>>121732693
Honestly with everybody whining about it isn't it just a fucking Co-Op Baby? I have a feeling you need The Keeper's achievements as well

So basically the game will be impossible to 100% until Edmund stops shitting
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>mfw Isaac was actually harder than Mega Satan since a D8 in the Chest gave me retarded damage
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Uh... what did I just do...?

I can't move with the gamepad, but I can hit start on it and then control a buddy.
>>
>>121732875
I'm so fucking mad right now.
>>
>>121732693
Nope, "slow the fuck down" was about the greed fight, and the only thing mentioned about photosensitivity was that he liked the retrovision pill and had no plans to change it.
>>
XXXXXXXXL is so fucking boring holy shit
>>
>>121733080
You enabled Local Co-op.
>>
>>121733337
I don't even know how I did it.
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I can't stop.
Help me.
This was just suppose to be a challenge run.
>>
>>121733412
You enabled it by pressing start on your controller as it thought your controller was a second person.
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>>121733424
HELP
>>
How does Libra work?
If you get +1 damage, does it give you +1/6 to every stat or +1?
Because if it's the first, then I may aswell just restart now.
>>
>>121722778
Good players kill him with devil deals.
>>
>>121734328
It's the first. Not as bad as it sounds though
>>
>>121734328
Always pick up Libra. That's all you need to know.
>>
>>121734328
Unless you have absolutely nothing but Damage, just pick up Libra
>>
>>121734705
>>121734595
I absolutely hate having any speed above 3 |.
I don't see how this is better than maxing out damaged and shot speed.
>>
>>121734836
Libra doesn't touch shot speed (or luck) so you're still golden there.
>>
>>121733869
Just wait until you get to Brown Snake levels of items where they actually try to keep you in the room.
>>
>>121734328
Fuck libra. I avoid it like the plague because it fucks every run I pick it up on and gives me mediocre damage.
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>tfw this STILL only does scratch damage to Ultra Greed
>>
>>121733141
Easy challeng but holy shit is it boring
>>
>>121689247
Its like that with allot of items.
Like all the common +health ups compared to the meat,crack jacks ,blue cap , magic scab and so forth.
All these + range/speed/attack speed that have additional benefits.
While so many are just the common shitty versions.
>>
God's Flesh might need to be added to "package for mr lost".

Speaking of which, does anyone have the original image?
>>
Question. I'm in the, I assume, minority who didn't have majority of stuff unlocked before the Afterbirth DLC (I stopped playing when I heard there was DLC coming to wait until it was out.. big mistake), and am now doing runs with each character to unlock crap.

For the postits, can you get multiple marks per run? Like, in a single run can I get credit for It Lives, Boss Rush, Isaac, and ??? all at once if it's all unlocked/I'm able? Or does only the run-ender get a mark (excluding Boss Rush which I know is just added on whenever)
>>
>>121735809
slow the fuck down
>>
>>121735809
Ultra Greed really shouldn't have scaling HP

I feel it's more fitting for Hush due to his design looking bulkier, but Ultra Greed is just padding
>>
>>121679868
>that Dry Baby

I see what you did there.
>>
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>>121736435
You can get more than one mark per run.
You can even do Mega Satan in a Chest/Dark Room run by leaving the boss room after killing the area boss and then going back to the main door.

Pic related, it's my Isaac postit after starting hardmode runs.
I did all three in one go.
>>
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life is good
>>
>>121736628
what did he do there did he draw a dry baby damn
>>
>>121735885
it sucks because I want to restart if my first floor gives boring items because it'll just make the rest of the floors a slog if I dont get good shit on the next one, but if I do restart I can't rush the first floor like I usually do
>>
>>121736465
NO, FULL SPEED MOTHERFUCKER
>>
>>121736690
Thought so, wanted to make sure. I had marks on just about everyone but not on Hard and missing them all in random order.

Except Lazarus, who is totally blank. So wanted to make sure i could double up.
>>
>>121736738
It's better if you didn't know.
>>
>Curse of the Maze
>accidentally ingest an amnesia pill
I didn't sign up to be Robin Williams' character in Jumanji damn
>>
>>121737112
Almost as bad as doing that on labyrinth
>>
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Is this worth shilling out my last hope of survival?
>>
>>121737319
yes
>>
>>121737319
It's just fear shot.
>>
>>121737319
Absolutely not.
>>
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>>121737269
nigga just map it out in Excel.
>>
Does getting rid of your heart containers in a Devil Deal count as damage for removing eternal hearts?
>>
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>stuck on Speed challenge
>don't want to something else and "waste" good RNG
>>
>>121737667
no.
>>
>>121732985
whats that in the bottom right corner
>>
>>121738275
egg
>>
>>121737738
I know this feel. I spent hours doing the speed challenge and didn't want to do anything else so I would stay used to the faster speed. It's hard to go between normal speed and SPEED!
>>
>>121738275
Easter egg menu.
You get it after typing in at least one easter egg seed.
Try BOOB TOOB.
>>
azazel was fixed yesterday?
>>
does anywone knows why rubber cement makes azarel's brimstone get full range when reflected?
>>
>>121713949
You deserve it for using the filter.
>>
>>121738725
Not really
>>
>>121738725
no
>>
>>121737389
>>121737496
>>121737587
Well, I ended up taking it thanks to first Anon and it's actually not too bad, keeping these assholes at bay.
But immediately after I got teased by the game.


I just used a 2 of clubs and two rooms later I suddenly hear "2 of clubs". Does this happen often?
>>
>>121735607
>Soy Milk and Libra in the item rooms on an XL floor

Turned that massive tears increase into a normal run.
>>
>>121738592
just r until you get knife
>>
>>121738662
oh ok thanks
how trippy
>>
>>121713949
>Goat Head
>No deal

Wait what the fuck

Did he nerf goat head too?
>>
>>121738807
Awful programming
>>
haha where's the FUCKING patch edman you fat piece of shit
>>
>>121738807
shhhhhhh
just stay silent and it may not be patched
>>
New thread?
>>
>>121738973
This is like the only combo that makes libra not shit and soy milk kind of good.
>>
Edmund McMillen @edmundmcmillen 19h19 hours ago
@AlexMcCarthyS the reception has been amazingly positive.. the confusion over bugs and the like have been less than ideal

it's just a bug guys :^)
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which one?
i'm in greed mode
>>
>>121739878
Even if they are bugs he has a horrible track record of fixing things that are unintentionally broken. Look at how long it took him to fix rebirth dr fetus.
>>
>>121739451
Libra is also great with Ipecac/Polyphemus. They basically have the same effect as Soy Milk does with Libra since they massively increase one stat that gets balanced.
>>
migrate whenever

>>121740089
>>
>>121740064
Gimpy.
>>
>>121740064
all kind of bad
>>
>>121740064

>1 red heart so it's kinda impossible to benefit from leech
>familiar is shit

get robohead bro
>>
>>121705623
I ran out of bombs on the mom fight earlier on and had to fucking kill her with the bean.
>>
>>121739878
Who the fuck is praising this

Even if the bugs did prevent some of the content from appearing, it's not like the xp pack added much aside from recolored enemies and greed mode. and a random super boss.
>>
>do a quick run in greed mode
>enter monstro room before greed
>no door to ultra greed

What the hell with this bullshit?
>>
>>121729712
Cain
Tiny planet
Soymilk
"FLOOMP" worm (I don't know it's name)
5
1
0
1 soul heart, half an eternal, no redhearts
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