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/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #230

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"SEASON 2 ACCIDENTALLY LEAKED" Edition

Previous Thread: >>121581084

Life is Strange is an episodic interactive drama from DONTNOD Entertainment. Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Maxine Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to turn back time. At the prestigious Blackwell Academy, Max must prepare with Chloe Price for the incoming storm of returning to her hometown after five years. Available on Steam, PSN and Xbox Live.

>Official Website:
http://lifeisstrange.com

>Steam:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/319630/
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4chanlisg

>/lisg/ Permalink:
http://orph.link/lisg

>FAQs, Old Threads/Strawpolls & Soundtrack/Music:
http://orph.link/lisgarchive

>/lisg/ Community written fanfic:
http://orph.link/story

>/lisg/ Content Producers:
http://pastebin.com/fdmD7Ba4

>Leaks:
http://pastebin.com/ByyNvUKL
http://pastebin.com/xFwyhDca

>Petition for an extended ending:
http://orph.link/petition

Strawpolls:
>Which scenes from Episode 5 were good?
http://strawpoll.me/5863316
>Which scenes from Episode 5 were bad?
http://strawpoll.me/5863317
>Which of these would make the best OTP?
http://strawpoll.me/5865899
>What awards did the game deserve? (Vote for six)
http://strawpoll.me/5875101
>Pick all that describe your feelings towards Episode 5
http://strawpoll.me/5881511
>What does dontnod really think about the endings.
http://strawpoll.me/5881694
>How was the supporting cast utilised in Episode 5?
http://strawpoll.me/5889247
>How many characters would you be willing to let (unambiguously) die to save Chloe?
http://strawpoll.me/5900575
>Who does lisg hate the most?
http://strawpoll.me/5907746
>Now that it's been 2 weeks, are you still pissed off about the ending?
http://strawpoll.me/5908427
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Stop maxing out the image limits early, tards
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xth for twilight posting
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xth for hipster Chloe and punk Max :3
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K8
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So do we post in this one now or keep posting in the other one until the image limit is reached...?

Should've just waited until we reached the image limit on the other one. It's always a complication with this thread.

P R I C E F I E L D
C U T E P O S T I N G
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The only story with goth Max.

>http://archiveofourown.org/works/4040251
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>>121649930
>tfw no Vicky gf
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What's up with the early thread?
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>>121650735
reached image limit now
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>>121650735
stupid faggots being stupid faggots again

can newfags please just stop making threads if you're always going to fuck it up and go early?
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>>121648991
I am putting together a flowchart (a-la-/mu/) of music similar to LiS

If you want to contribute, please contact me on steam, or reply to this post.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198048865860

not-so Current Pastebin of game's music/progress:
http://pastebin.com/LaUcnMej

Thanks to photoshopgril for putting together the background image and the second chart,
polaroidgril for assembling the album covers/artist names/etc. onto the background image,
Dr. Zaius for helping in general.

I am working on a few different thoughts for the flowchart. If you guys have any ideas, please share.

I have a torrent of all the games music, Morali's OST, the Vortex Club party, all the licensed songs (most in lossless format), and all the albums they were taken from.

Magnet link:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4AF55CE2E1F48771E92E4CCE8E92156EC6A96152&dn=various+artists+life+is+strange+ost+2015&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.me%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337

https://kat.cr/various-artists-life-is-strange-ost-2015-t11495485.html

Alternative download on MEGA, if you get it from here, please add the files to your torrent folder to facilitate easier downloads for others.

https://mega.nz/#F!LsBkkBwT!p-2sVb--sT3Tb9K_QDhznA

Spotify playlist of the licensed music here:
https://play.spotify.com/user/pieisablessing2me/playlist/0hlcayMf9otvePDw2MZ6qk
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>>121651140
Fuck off.
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Who /hypefors2/ here
Alternatively, who /depressedpricefieldisdead/ here
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>>121650735
Still no new strawpolls...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1FJFNsxb5Y

you never listen when i'm talking.
you're always waiting to hear yourself.
well, how am i doing? how do you feel?
to be honest with you, simply ill.
simply ill. simply ill. simply ill. simply ill.
i had a tumor. it never healed.
it just stayed there. until it killed.
until it killed. until it killed. until it killed. until it killed.
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>>121651331
Nobody cares about your stupid strawpolls. Stop whining about them.
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Alternate hairstyles
Wowsers
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>>121651323
HOLDEN AMBER WHEN
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Where is everyone? Sleeping?
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>>121651323
i'm more the latter
i'm so skeptical of a s2 to the point that i kind of don't want one and it's impossible for me to get hyped right now -- but at the same time, i'm desperate for any more content.

a word on dlc for s1 would've been a lot better.
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>>121652173
To sad/fed up to post any more. I just want to listen to /slowcore/ and cry.
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Guys I finished ep 5 yesterday and I still feel depressed :(
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You saved her, right?
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On one hand, I really want to feel dat atmosphere again, and the optimist in me thinks Dontnod might learn from their mistake. On the other hand, I refuse to get sucked in again and have zero faith in Dontnod anymore to not hurt me again.

I think right now, rather than waiting for season 2, I'm holding out hope that other company who knows what they're doing will take inspiration from Dontnod's successes and lessons from their failures and make something of true quality.
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Hottest girl - http://strawpoll.me/5950274

Cutest girl - http://strawpoll.me/5950275

Most likable girl - http://strawpoll.me/5950276
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>>121652417
ANON DON'T GET SAD, GET ANGRY.

THIS IS A FALSE DICHOTOMY, MADE BY DONTNOD'S SHITTY WRITERS.

THE ONLY REASON YOU SHOULD BE DEPRESSED IS BECAUSE THIS GAME WAS RUINED BY POLARIZING, AMATEUR WRITING, TRYING TO EVOKE THIS EMOTIONAL RESPONSE TO HIDE THE LAZINESS.
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Idk how to feel about this.

Also, Max having pink hair sure is a popular thing.
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>>121652827
MY BIGGEST AND BLACKEST OF OF MINE AFRICAN AMERICAN BRETHREN.
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>>121652659
>Kate
>Kate
>Kate
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>>121652867
I don't really like Chloe with long hair. I've seen a few styles of it and none of them really clicked with me. Only stuff I liked on her was maybe a small ponytail or changing the color.
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Hottest girl - http://strawpoll.me/5950288

Cutest girl - http://strawpoll.me/5950297

Most likable girl - http://strawpoll.me/5950303
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>>121651614
wowser indeed
also max and chloe as parents hng
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>>121652659
the answer for all of them

ultimate waifu of my laifu
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>>121653078
>Dana
>Dana
>Dana
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>>121653126
>No ur mom option
Disappointing
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>>121653251
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>>121653126
>Rachel
>Max
>Chloe
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>>121653126
>Chloe
>Max
>Dana
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>>121653415
>>121653251
>>121653078
>not Rachel, Max, Kate
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-tsqZMEwzo

Reminder that Max having blonde hair makes her look like Taylor Swift.
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Why is it on the live stream yesterday the guy said Chloe always had blue hair and her original hair color is blonde..... when her early concept art has her with black roots >_> The same art is also on the info page. /sigh
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>>121648635
>breaking a perfectly good and serviceable cup
Fuck, why is Kate always such a dumb whore?
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>>121653763
Because he was talking shit half the time and uninteresting shit the other.
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>>121653763
Because they're idiots.

You know Chloe was never actually supposed to have black hair or be asian or native american or whatever else they had in mind for that concept art, right? You just imagined that. The whole image and concept is imagined. :)
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>>121653763

Maybe he meant she was always going to dye to blonde, and in the final concept her natural (ie original) hair is blonde - not that her original concept hair was blonde.

But also people make mistakes, not everyone involved will be across every detail.
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>>121654156

Always going to dye to blue, I mean.
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>>121652659
Who is Sarah?
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Does anyone have that poster with a girl from Nathan's room?

I loved the illustration but I can't find it.
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>>121654356
I have no idea.
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>>121654356
Vortex Club VIP section gatekeeper
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>>121654356
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>>121652659
>Not having pic related
Trash poll
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>>121653763
wish they kept the butterfly bit going up the neck, looks sweet
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>>121652659
What the hell are these results
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>>121654419

I wonder what kind of music they play
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>>121654056
He really was and the questions were stupid. They made that shit up.

>>121654086
Imagination indeed. :)

>>121654156
>not everyone involved will be across every detail.
Yeah, that's true.

I wish they kept her, her original ethnicity. :(
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>>121654950
Bless you anon.
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>>121654842
To think that baefags would sacrifice that hottie for some stoner bitch... Fiends, all of them.
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>>121654950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMcumbSMY_8&list=PLNnDUPdafskk-MUBoNYTpyGSK9iO0YTO1
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Is that one female NPCs name actually Banner?
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>>121655161
No.
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>>121653763
Man, I think it would've been pretty cool if Chloe was kept as Native American or Asian, if either was their original intention. This game is pretty white and it would've added some diversity, and actually established a more concrete connection to all of the Native American symbolism/spiritualism (that ended up just being dropped from the face of the Earth but whatever).
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>>121654950
I assumed that was a movie poster, actually.
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>>121655015
I don' see how Chloe could have been any other ethnicity than white. Unless Joyce and William had different designs originally that made them Asian or Native.
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>>121655015
>I wish they kept her, her original ethnicity. :(
Nah, Chloe's better as a blonde white girl. DONTNOD already had a mixed-race main character in Remember Me anyway.
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>>121655392

Max comments that it 'looks like it was a really cool show', I assumed it was a concert.
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>>121655306
This! The game is pretty wonder bread unfortunately.
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>>121655638
Are you serious right now?
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>>121655723
Get out
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>>121655581
>DONTNOD already had a mixed-race main character in Remember Me anyway.
So them having a black character in an entirely separate game means that it's wrong or weird for them to include someone of a different race other than white in the main cast of this one? What
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>>121655638
Could be a TV-show.
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Act_E4_5A_NathanRoom_ExhibitionPoster_Look01_Max_010="That looks like a totally fun show. Even Nathan has a light side."

An art exhibition, seems.
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>>121655306
The non-white cast is made up of Principal Wells, Ms Grant, Brooke, Stella, Hayden, possibly Daniel and that one cop in the diner. Yeah the game is pretty white now that you mention it. Considering all those Tumblrinas who apply sexuality headcanons to characters, I'm surprised there haven't been complaints about racial diversity.
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>>121655723
This has to stop
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>>121655886
Whoa, don't have to get so triggered. Just saying you don't have to have an exotic main cast for every single title you make. They already got enough brownie points with the tumblr/sjw crowd by having her being a sexual minority anyway.
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>>121656112
>possibly Daniel
POSSIBLY Daniel? Dude's got a fucking accent he's so fresh off the boat, he couldn't be mistaken for white even if you were blind.
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>>121656112
>The game is pretty white
>Proceeds to make a huge list of non-white characters
You're being sarcastic, right? You also forgot Courtney, Trevor and Luke too.
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Post feet.

Please.
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>>121656112

To be fair, it's small town American, which is known for being pretty white.

On that point though, for Chloe in particular to be non-white probably would have enhanced her feeling like she didn't belong there, in addition to the punk interests and junk, so it's interesting that she ended up being white anyway. But that in itself could enhance the feeling that she's just unremarkable white trash, so I guess it works either way.
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>>121656112
Daniel is a Hispanic with an accent. Yeah -- for all the game does with sexual representation, no major character is not white. Could've done with a bit more racial diversity, I think. Tumblr doesn't touch on that much because they care more about their gender headcanons that have no context than to think about how the racial diversity could've been better.
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>>121656462

Courtney looks totally white to me.
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>>121656508
>Racial minority on top of sexual minority
Dude, there's doing, and then there's overdoing it.
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>>121656462
>Courtney, Trevor and Luke
How? Also that huge list was made up entirely of minor characters with only Principal Wells having some slight importance to the plot.
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>>121656508
>But that in itself could enhance the feeling that she's just unremarkable white trash
kek

You brought up something that I hadn't thought about, though. Definitely would've been interesting to see how being a racial minority could have emphasized her feelings of isolation.
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>>121656672
Her facial features are obviously mixed race.
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Does anyone have that massive screencap compilation of everything wrong with ep5?
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>People wanting to change a character's race because they think it will somehow enhance the story, get the character more sympathy, or something
No.
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>>121656817
Because the list of people people who have any relevance to the plot amounts to Max, Chloe, Rachel and Jefferson. Having the dead victim as a racial minority would raise issues, same as having the killer be one too.
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>>121656741
There's people of color who aren't straight, you know. Don't see the problem with portraying them; it'd be pretty cool to see it happen more, actually. Also makes for new experiences from new perspectives, something that I think a lot of people appreciated in some ways from playing LiS.

>>121656950
here u go f am
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>>121656508
I think having her as a minority would make it difficult to believe she would have a confederate flag-bearing stepfather or that her mother would marry a guy like that.
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>>121653126
Are you the anon who ships Max x Joyce?
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>>121657248
Shut up retard.
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>>121656817
You actually think that is a white person?
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>>121657248
The sooner you realize that everyone on this shitty website is retarded, the better.
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>>121657248
>Come to /lisg/
>Act surprised when people are passionate about LiS
Also, at least unlike Bronies we stay in our area. Unlike you. Who has intruded. Shoo.
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>>121657106
I don't think anyone wants to change a character's race because the game is already out and it's what we got and know. But it's interesting to briefly discuss how things could have been differently if she wasn't white.
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>>121657248
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>>121657232

Thanks f am
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Jefferson is a purityfag
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11577774/7/So-Far-Gone
It updated!
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>>121657248
We're not going anywhere. Who are you to say what this board exists for? Who are you to swagger in here like a cunt and tell the OP to delete this thread? Better question, why would you put in the effort to type out an overly-long post for a general you don't like? It's certainly not because you're "empathetic", that's for sure.
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>>121657276

Where was David's Confederate Flag? I know Max drew a Confederate Battle Flag on her journal entry for him, but I thought that was just her stereotyping him as a yokel ,Murican.

Franks has a rebel flag on his hat though.q
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>>121657276
No it wouldn't. My friend is black and her stepfather is a white -Merica army guy. I'm surprised he even married her mom.
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>>121657248
> I am telling you this because I am empathetic and I care. Please listen to me.

Really?

>Why on earth would a group of you no-lives cling heavily to something as sad as this?
>ou probably don't know since all of you pathetic losers are far too busy fapping to shitty design and wishing back a time of complete technological inferiority.
> You severely damaged losers are literally the Bronies of /vg/.
> Do you not realize that this board doesn't exist for you to wear nostalgia goggles and circlejerk over a garbage game?

I mean really? I'd have just preferred you to tell us to fuck off. 3/10, b8 overwritten but peaked mine autism enough to make me reply. Go back and do your homework sonny.
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>>121657276

Where was David's Confederate Flag? I know Max drew a Confederate Battle Flag on her journal entry for him, but I thought that was just her stereotyping him as a yokel ,Murican.

Franks on the other hand has a rebel flag on his hat.
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>>121657232
Yeah, except Chloe is a created character, and everything about her as thought up deliberately. Having so many fringe/oppressed/etc traits in a single character is just sympathy bait.
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>>121657813
I see you posting the updates ITTs, then when I look at the story I see the updates are less than an hour old.
Are you the author? If so, I've been enjoying that one.
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>>121658030
You do realize you just confirmed what he said, don't you?
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>>121658165
Nah, if I was the author, I would have posted that right before it was updated.
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>>121658067
>>121657984
>>121657532
>>121657339
>reporting is a thing y'know
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>>121658420
Understood
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>>121657317
Are you?
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>>121657317
Isn't Joyce a little old?
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>>121659158
Joyce is Max's sugar mama :D
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>>121653078
>tfw I can't stop thinking about Kate
I'm not sure if this is fine anymore because of how depressing it is
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max is so fucking qt
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>>121659848
max is so fuckable
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>>121653763
>>121655306
>>121655645
>>121656112

I am Asian, and although I would like to see the media as more inclusive of people from different backgrounds, I am perfectly fine with the representation in this game because I know Oregon.

Here's how the state was founded:

http://gizmodo.com/oregon-was-founded-as-a-racist-utopia-1539567040?trending_test_e&utm_expid=66866090-62.H_y_0o51QhmMY_tue7bevQ.5&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fgizmodo.com%2Foregon-was-founded-as-a-racist-utopia-1539567040%3Ftrending_test_e

My mom's best friend lives in nearby Eugene, Oregon. I recall when we visited her there, I looked at the class picture for her sons. Out of a class of around 200 people her sons were the only non white students. ( Although there were a couple students who were ethnically ambiguous.)

One of her sons acted like he was a poor black kid from the inner city, instead of an upper middle class asian kid from the suburbs. He dropped ebonics with every other word. I guess that's because he needed some way to represent how he felt as a minority or outsider.

I do agree with this though:
>>121656508

>To be fair, it's small town American, which is known for being pretty white.
>On that point though, for Chloe in particular to be non-white probably would have enhanced her feeling like she didn't belong there, in addition to the punk interests and junk, so it's interesting that she ended up being white anyway. But that in itself could enhance the feeling that she's just unremarkable white trash, so I guess it works either way.

PS: It really annoys me when TV shows and movies depict major international cities with diverse populations such as New York, LA, or San Francisco as homogeneous as Oregon. For me accuracy comes above all else.
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>>121660602
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>>121660395
Okay, that makes sense. I've never been to America so I don't know much about which states are ethnically diverse and which are homogenous. It's just with the increasing demand I see online for greater representation I figured there might be more complaints.
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>>121660395
Hmm, yeah I see your point, considering the location of the game. I'd be more critical if it was NY, Miami, or just about any place in California (particularly the South) because it'd be a very different case.

I only have one friend who lives in Oregon who is of my race (Latina), and I don't think she sees too many people of the same race as her. It's a really white place. They could've done better, but they could've done a lot worse with the diversity level - and it seems to accurately reflect a place as racially homogeneous and white as Oregon.
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>>121657232
thought I might update it a little
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>>121661249
>It's a really white place.
That's complaining about Japan being a really yellow place, or Africa a really black place. Have some perspective, please.
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>>121661396
Does anybody actually read this shit?
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>>121661969
I did.
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Chloe
>The kind of girl you finger in a club bathroom
Max
>Kind of girl you bring home to your mother
Literally no competition.
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Alice
>The kind of animal you eat for a quick meal
Lisa
>The kind of plant you water and take care of for a while
Literally no competition.
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>>121662042
>>121662265
Fucking kek.
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>>121662265
>Wanting to eat this adorable little angel
You monster.
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>>121661658
Don't get ahead of yourself, it was merely an observation. Is it not a really white place? It's not like that's a false statement.

Also, Oregon is part of America, which is a racially diverse country. Some parts and cities are a lot more racially homogeneous than others, but it's still a country that is more racially diverse than say, Japan. For example, I happen to live in a city where the population is almost entirely Latino, in a more racially diverse state. Most cities in states like Oregon or Idaho will be compromised of mostly white people. Some cities will have a predominantly black population, and some cities will have a mostly Asian population. Some cities will have a huge mix of these along with other races.

So comparing a state like Oregon to a country like Japan or a continent like Africa is just not logical.
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Anyone else think this part of the nightmare was a wasted opportunity? It's the only point in the game where you have control of another character besides Max and all you do is go through a door.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa3pVTmFmpI
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Are you guys seriously whining about racial representation in this game? Seriously? If you take away family members (because obviously they are going to be the same race), more than a third of the game's cast is non white. In a game set in Oregon? What would it take for you people to be satisfied? Everyone but the janitor be non-white? Good fucking heavens, you are worse than tumblr. I'm not even white and I still see through your bullshit sjwing.
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>>121662775
>We couldn't even get a Rachel model for that part we were obviously supposed to be her
ಠ_ಠ
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Reminder that only people who selected the superior food options in episode 2 and 4 will gain access to season two.
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>>121662775
Oh, I made that scene count alright. My screenshot to scene length ratio for that is insane.

>>121662884
They did start off saying the main cast is exclusively white and that it'd maybe have been cool if there was one non-white in there. I personally don't care. But I'm not sure I'd have liked an Asian/Native Chloe as much as I do the one we got.
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>>121662775
It was boring garbage.
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>>121662265

Alice
>The kind of animal you keep as a pet
Lisa
>The kind of plant you feed to your rabbit
Literally no competition.
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>>121663428
Why would you feed a plant to a good meal? You people are sick.
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Keep her safe
Keep her away from guns
No drugs
No alcohol
Don't feed her after midnight
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>>121662884
Non-white person here and I think it could've been worse. Like I said, it's a pretty white place so it's understandable. I like that they simply wrote characters of different races, rather than just including stereotypes.

>>121663218
I don't think it's a bad thing; it's just the way it is in many places. I just stated that I have a Hispanic friend who lives in Oregon, which is a predominantly white place. I'm not complaining, especially as I don't live there and know what it's like, just saying the truth. People are taking it as some sort of attack when I didn't even really complain.
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>>121662775

Entirely. It's a shame because it was such cool atmosphere with the distorted dialogue playing over everything.
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>>121663428
>They did start off saying the main cast is exclusively white
But it isn't.

>>121663428
You think rabbits eat wood?
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Reminder that Max rewinds with her hand tied down in the dark room.
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>>121662884
No one's whining, just discussing is all, based on the early concept art where she appeared at least part asian or native american.
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>>121663313
>But I'm not sure I'd have liked an Asian/Native Chloe as much as I do the one we got.
How come? Legitimately not trying to bait you or anything, I'm just curious if there's a particular reason. Like why would your love for her have been different? Is it because you're too used to knowing Chloe as how she is now that thinking of her in a different way doesn't really work?
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why didn't max just shoot the tornado
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>>121663313
>But I'm not sure I'd have liked an Asian/Native Chloe as much as I do the one we got.
Why's that?
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>>121662884
>>121661658

Nobody is complaining. We are merely making observations.
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>>121663720
>No one's whining
>>121663903
>Nobody is complaining.

Oh really?


>>121655306
>his game is pretty white and it would've added some diversity
>>121655645
>This! The game is pretty wonder bread unfortunately.
>>121656112
>The non-white cast is made up of Principal Wells, Ms Grant, Brooke, Stella, Hayden, possibly Daniel and that one cop in the diner. Yeah the game is pretty white now that you mention it.
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>>121663815
Why didn't Max learn how to selectively reverse things. She could have reversed just the tornado until it was gone
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>>121663672

Remember when we thought the whole reason she was tied to a weird chair that wasn't in the dark room in episode 4 was because Jefferson knew about her power, or might find out based on her using it to try and escape or by reading her diary? And how both the latter things were teased in the episode itself without going anywhere?
Nope. Jefferson just left Max passed out in the dark room and popped out to pick up a big clunky chair for the sake of one awkward photo that's completely unlike anything we've ever seen in his binder before.
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>>121663903
Can't discuss a bit of race for a few posts without being told that you're whining/complaining, I guess. But you can talk about how both endings are shitty and argue over which is the most shitty for the 500th time.
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>>121663994

>observation
>mild, short complaint
>observation

Oh yeah man, we're really foaming at the mouth here, this is more rageful than the post-Polarized discussion.
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>>121663536
She can have guns. Once David teaches her how to properly use them.
However no drugs or alcohol when using guns.
And she can eat whenever she wants. As long as it's not munchies where her and Max wreck the kitchen at 2am making pancakes or something.
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>>121664024
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>>121664142
>Implying
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>>121663595
>But it isn't.
Well, except for Wells I guess, which they did mention.

>>121663791
>>121663865
It's just the type of person Chloe is I from my personal experience associate with a white girl in the sense that I knew people kind of like her and so it just feels authentic to me.
But again, I can't be sure. Maybe it'd have worked just as well for me.
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>yfw Kate will never write that children's book with Max in either ending
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>>121664134
Yup. I remember. Fuck 'em.
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>tfw Kate will never release a book full of images of her getting gangbanged by the Vortex Club

why

live
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>>121664024

Why didn't Max just take Arcadia Bay and push it somewhere else?
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>>121664416
Except for a full third of the cast you mean.
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>>121664663

Entire cast =/= main cast
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>>121664663
Do you want to make this about semantics now? "Main" cast I took them to mean the characters primarily relevant for the story. Max, Chloe, Victoria, Nathan, Warren, Kate, David, Jefferson - these are exclusively, unambiguously white.
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>mfw faggots who irresponsibly killed Lisa and picked the childish sweet dishes missed out on the real ending where Max is able to woman up and fix everything
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>>121665004
Fucking plant murderers.
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>>121664846
I'm sure people would love if the antagonists weren't white.
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>>121664317
No! You need to follow the rules exactly or Chloe will die! You want to be a Chloe killer?
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Is this game worth buying and playing despite the poor ending?
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So how are you guys doing?
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>>121665450
Yeah I think it's good despite its clearly shit endings
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>>121664324
What the hell is this gif? Is it supposed to be a parody of something?
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>>121665254
She needs to live. Locking her away, where no harm (or good) can come to her, is not living.
Let her be free and just keep an eye on her. As she will do the same for you.
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>>121665321
>They can't show a rich and successful [insert minority here] without making them evil, damn racists.
Yeah, can that bitterness will you.
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>>121665528
I never got past the gallery after you guys told me what the ending was, when I stopped playing shit was awesome
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>>121665528
I find myself actively seeking out and studying girls with pixie cuts around me now. But there's so few. Not too bad otherwise.
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>>121666194
Just look for a nice young man if you think short haired girls are attractive.
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>>121666097
Just stop responding to those tumblerina baiters, that's what they want you to do.
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>>121666051
You can only protect the things closest to you if you keep them caged.
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>>121666317
The world itself is a cage.
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>>121666261
Hey, you are mean. That's one. Are you a nice young man by any chance, as well? Manface related.
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>>121662042
>implying you can't do both with chloe
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>>121666567
>black jacket and beanie
triggered
that shit is even worse than people getting vicky's eyes wrong
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>>121666567
Max's parents are going to love seeing Chloe after five years.
The peppy long-haired blonde that actually had a swear jar replaced with a punk with dyed hair that curses, drinks, smokes, and is that constantly being clung on to by their daughter.
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>>121666261
Hush Dumbass
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>>121666776

Chloe was always like that though, even in flashbacks she started swearing as soon as her dad was gone, stole her mother's wine and talked to Max about taking over the world.
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>>121666464
It's one dangerous fucking cage in Arcadia Bay alone you have drug dealers pulling knives on you for stupid shit
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Don't bully Victoria she cracks easy as hell
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>>121667981
Vicky a shit
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>>121666914
But she could at least hide it back then, so it would at least appear she didn't swear or drink. Now I don't think she would have a very good filter.
I would give it about five minutes before she says the word fuck in front of Mrs. Caulfield.
I mean she would probably try to behave, but this is Chloe we're talking about.
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>>121668075
Don't do it asshole
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>>121665881
Yeah, the elmo in hell gif.
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its not even december
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>>121669986
The sooner we get Christmas/ winter art the better. Because I don't know how long we will have a steady flow of content for.
Then again, maybe the winter sales will lead more people to pick up LiS.
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>>121669986
Post Halloween is Christmas ramp up territory. Nobody who's not American gives a fuck about November
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We have one winter one too!
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So I found this
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/808518/pc-games/life-is-strange-camera-mods-useful-for-screenshots/

Anyone know how to launch the game in debug mode?
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Time for sleep.
Sweet dreams, /lisg/
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>>121673901
Have a good night anon.
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>>121675093
I wish Max had grabbed Kate in her arms, carried her off to her dorm room and tucked her in and read her a bedtime story.
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That game Disaster: Day of Crisis takes place in the LiS Bae ending
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Does anyone have those MGSV cross over images?
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I am trying to find the pube discussion. I thought I saved it, but apparently I didn't.
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Welp see you guys in a month if you're still here
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>>121677504
Remember anon.
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Someone post the photos of Max in the dark room please
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>>121676891

The ladies:
Max - Unshaven but with very sparse light hair. Mostly peach fuzz.
Chloe - Blue and cut like a hedge with piercings and maybe tattoos.
Kate - Much like Max's but with darker hair. She also only wore pads until Blackwell. Thinking about menstrual cups.
Victoria - Underwent electrolysis. Usually waxes.
Rachel Amber - Tried to get a piercing, but removed it due to complications. Chloe laughed endlessly at that. Styles hair, last seen in the shape of a heart/butterfly.
Taylor - Landing strip
Courtney - Airplane
Brooke - Thick firm hair that's lightly trimmed to 1.5 in.
Stella - Trimmed and tweezed to a triangle
Dana and Juliet - Waxed. Started ever since crabs.
Alyssa - Once dyed it with her hair. Once burned herself with Nair. Hasn't groomed it for a long time and now it's like a dense forest that sticks out like a pom pom.
Joyce - Overgrown and in the shape of a torch.
Dr. Grant - Bushy like a topiary
Homeless woman - Brittle and rounder that usual. May have crabs. May have track marks on thighs.

The Gentlemen-
David - Small pecker as proven by extensive gun collection, muscle car, and hostility towards women. Dense hairy growth almost camouflages it. Circumsized.
Nathan - Low to Average length. Very narrow shaft with an unusually wide frenulum making it look like a mushroom. Is pale and veiny, and a round patch of yellow hair surrounds the base. Is insecure about his weird penis, and doesn't like others to look at this. Uncircumsized (Based on someone I know.)
Jefferson - High average girth with long length around 8 in. erect. Is uncircumcised due to hippy upbringing that messed him up. Extremely hairy all around like an ape.
Principal Wells - Large penis but suffers from erectile dysfunction. Very wide like coke can.
Warren - Grower not a shower. About seven inches erect and circumcised.
Luke - Micropenis. Circumcised.
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>>121676205
These one?
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>>121676205
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>>121677875
Yeah that's the ones, cheers.
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>>121676205
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>>121677613
portfolio of jefferson
http://imgur.com/a/XNFg9
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>>121676205
I admit, I kinda like seeing Max in an eyepatch.
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>>121678091
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>>121678091
shit thanks homie
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>>121678189
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>>121678326
>>121678189
>>121678028
>>121677875

Thanks senpai.
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>>121678091

Man, even the dark room photos of Max look like total shit compared to the ones in ep4.
What HAPPENED to this game?
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>>121678471
They changed f,am and I never noticed, fuck.
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>>121678542
Budget. :(
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What was the point of Luke?

You literally talk to him just twice in the entire game for like two minutes.
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What was the point of Lisa?

You literally water her just twice in the entire game for like fifteen secons.
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>>121678203
Imagine if Kate grew back into a giantess and raided the Dark Room. She could squish Jefferson under her giant bum and then Max and Vicky could be carried to safety in the arms of an angel.
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>>121678896
Set dressing via salad dressing, oldest trick in the book.
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Please protect the women of Arcadia Bay.
All of them even the homeless lady, that weird Canadian woman, the lady waiting for the bus, Ms. Grant
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>>121678896
Due to budget issues they had to remove a subplot about a interspecies romance between Lisa and Alice.
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>>121649845
It's no different than maxing post limit, tard.
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>>121679057
What about Sarah?
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>>121678832

The point of Luke is that he's the fucking best, holy shit I love that guy.
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>>121678896
>water her just twice in the entire game for like fifteen secons
I guess you killed her and didn't get the 3rd TRUE ENDING right?
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>>121679078

Except moving to a new thread early creates confusion and kills discussion, and anyone who accidentally posts in the old thread will bump it back up to page 1 and cause there to be two active threads at the same time, which is really inconsiderate and speeds up the board for everyone.
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>>121679268
FUCK
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>>121651614
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>>121679235
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>>121679148
Her too even though she was a bitch
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>>121651614
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>>121679375

Best side boy, 10/10, would go to parties to avoid people with.
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>>121679360
Who stole the source of her power
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>>121651614
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>>121679569
She created an amulet out of it, gave it to Max, and that's what allowed her to save bay and bae at the same time.
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>>121679235
>>121679375
>>121679504
But he barely has any character
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>>121679789
But if Kate cuts her hair she loses 70% of her life span
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>>121680007
It's okay, she sacrifices her immortality to grow old with the person she loves.
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>be me
>read a thread of 4 almost every day
>still 30 threads behind (2 weeks worth), reading on archive
help

also dropping off a song I think would fit pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEEsWEOqpGY&t=55s
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>>121651614
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>>121680227
Shut up autismo.
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>>121680227
a thread OR 4*
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>>121680227
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>>121651614
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Goodnight /lisg/
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>>121680590
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This isnt Evil Kate Chapter 1, just a quick doodle
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>>121676205
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>>121680694
Well, that's progress I suppose.
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>>121680694
sweet
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>>121677847
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>>121678091
Why is he such an amazing photographer
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I feel dead inside. What are you doing with your lives in the meantime? I'm just holding on for Season 2 or some DLC, even though it'll probably be a disappointment.
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>>121681787
im trying to get a girl, creating content, try to move on
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>>121681787
Getting stressed over work. Wish I could rewind so I could've chosen a better job.
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>>121680227
>reading inactive threads
literally why?
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Who /katemarsh/ here?
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>http://whatthegale.tumblr.com/post/132787763109/but-think-about-marshgraham-warren-checking-on
How would you feel if this was the cost of Pricefield?
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>>121683567
NO! GET THE FUCK OUT!
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>>121683567
no
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>>121683090
threads 185-195 or so had some pretty good discussion going on, plus bashing of the endings.
also I'm scouring the threads for good images and music.

after 200 the shitposting returns a bit but sometimes I can still get a laugh out of certain things.
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>>121683716
>>121683778
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>>121683778
...why is Max in Victoria's room?
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>>121681923
I hope all goes well for you, anon.

>>121682073
I feel you.

>>121683090
Not that anon but I remember being behind about 10+ threads, I just gave up and moved on. In the end, nothing matters anymore. I feel depressed at those endings, but also angry, mostly at myself for being so hyped. It had so much potential and I was looking forward to see what they'd do with Nathan and Sean's supposed connection to the storm but they threw it out the window. Just like all the native american bullshit they were hinting at. Hell, even Mari's stupid skinwalker theory would've been interesting to see instead of 'here's the only two choices that actually matter in the end'; One of which is longer than the other and is supposed to make you feel like you chose the 'right' ending, while the other is supposed to make you feel guilty, because you got everyone killed (bullshit). Even though Max herself is all CHLOECHLOECHLOE, you can choose the option you know she never would in-game. But if you go with it, Bayfags say YOU'RE ALL HITLER/SOCIOPATHS FOR CHOOSING THAT, MAX WOULDN'T DO THAT!!1 Yes she would, and you know it. You're just being delusional if you think she wouldn't save Chloe if she had full control. Read her journal, listen to her in all of Ep 5, seriously.

Sorry, I'm just still... not over it. Probably never will be tbqh. I never been more into characters in a game before this one. This was my GOTY until Ep 5 happened. Now I'm just here... waiting for more disappointment while foolishly holding onto hope.
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>>121683949
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>>121681787

I'm getting back into art and Breaking Bad. Been in a real depression the last few months and was fucking destroyed for the couple of weeks after release, but I think I'm finally starting to get back on my feet! I kind of alternate between wanting to take on the world, and wanting to crawl in bed and die, so I'm riding this high while it lasts.

Good thing my hobbies allow active engagement in fiction and expression, so I'm not stuck feeling tooooo dependant on other people's imaginations :) to move on and immerse myself in something new. Got a bit of a leg up in clawing myself out of this emotional landfill the devs stranded us in.

Try and find something to DO, anon! Revisit an old series that actually paid off by the end, study the craft of writing to contextualise your sorrow and babystep away from it onto new and better things, throw yourself into something completely separate from fiction that's too engaging to allow your mind to wander to it, whatever. Just find something that isn't sitting here, refreshing the thread, and waiting for news.
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>>121683778
What videos would BunnyLover2000 put on her channel?
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>>121684095

Drug-related ASMR.
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>>121684095
I meant BunnyHugger2000, but whatever.
>>121684206
Go fuck yourself, Mark.
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>>121684095
base jumping video
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>>121684000
Only sinners get up to witchcraft Katie.
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>>121684268
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>>121684331
>witchcraft
>talk about sin
to the stake she go
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hey guys i haven't here since Friday so what have i missed?
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>>121684484
Kateposting
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>>121684484
Official Season Two announcement and Reveal Trailer
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>>121684484

They released the secret REAL episode 5 and we all got to play it under the condition that we tell no one what happened and delete it right after. It was awesome, everything came together perfectly.
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>>121684040
I feel you anon. This year has been pretty shit for me, and that plus depression and anxiety can really make things rough. I hope things continue to look up for you and that you have more positive days.

I really should end up writing something, because that's the only way I can be self-indulgent while actually contributing to the LiS community. I suck at it, but I'll never get better if I don't try. But how do you get out of a laziness rut? Do you just push yourself to do it, until something happens? I have some fic ideas but it's a matter of how to write it out what I'm feeling/expressing in my mind that I struggle with.

Also, I can't ever think of literally anything without being reminded of LiS. What has this game done to me?
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>>121684551
>>121684581

show me
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>>121684461
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>>121684436

Okay, I deserved that, now just do me a favour and kick Mark's head in again...
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>>121684581
>They released the secret REAL episode 5

Is it wrong that i still hope this will happen? Like "haha we just pulled off the biggest troll moment in gaming history, here's what actually happens"
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Howdy folks.

Does real warren still come to here?
i want to chat with him -.-
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>>121686001
nice try TheRealWarren
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A'ight, this one came out a little better, I guess.
Thanks, science.
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>>121685901
Wrong? Maybe. But I'm still with you 100%.
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Does anyone here actually like Alyssa?
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"Life is 2 Strange" when
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>>121686518
You mean, "Life is Stranger", followed by the critically acclaimed, "Life is Strangest".
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>>121686458
Her voice acting was terrible, I dont know why they thought making her sound like her mouth was full all the time was a good idea.
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>>121686458
Kind of. She is actually quite sweet, if a bit aloof.
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>>121686518
Is Strange Life 2 is coming on 16th Of January 2019

screencap this
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>>121686561
Life is Wowsers
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>>121686597
Yeah, Dayeanne Hutton went a bit overboard with Alyssa. Her Kate voice sounded a lot more sincere and natural.
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>>121686684
>January 2019
anon pls no
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>>121686518
>>121686561
How about;

"Two lives, Two strangers"
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>>121686716
Life is Hella Wowsers you mean.
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>>121686782
dude sorry but that's the truth. Vampyr is coming on 2017. so they're probably working on twilight simulator.
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>>121686716
>>121686878
Are you cereal?
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>>121686458
I was thinking back to the thread where people were talking about how if Chloe were fat then no one would like her. Except maybe Max.

That reminds me, there was once a pretty decent Pricefield story with a chubby Max. But they deleted it and replaced it with a more boring story that ended up angsty with mostly Marshfield that slowly turned to Pricefield. Idk what they were thinking.
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>>121686921
Life is Cereal.
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>>121686921
Life is Cereal
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Lets just develop Season Two ourselves.
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>>121686921
Life is Life
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>>121686925
>boring story that ended up angsty with mostly Marshfield that slowly turned to Pricefield
Was that 'The Blue Room'?
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Daily reminder that Marshfield is canon.

>Arcadia Bay is based on Coos Bay, Oregon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coos_Bay,_Oregon
>Ctrl+F Marshfield
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>>121687450
holy kate...
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>>121686684
23 march 2016
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>>121687007
Yes.
The previous story was titled 'Action Over Words'/'Starry Nights'
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>>121687450
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>>121684732
>But how do you get out of a laziness rut?

Still working on it.
I'm blissfully between jobs at the moment, so I've got a lot of leeway in how I spend my energy. When I was working it was just impossible, I'd probably be in real trouble by now if I'd stayed on.
But then, without a job providing a need to get out of bed comes the problem of figuring out why I should get out of bed at all, which I simply didn't do for a while. If I'm lying or sitting, it's just like, why get up ever?
So I'm trying to occupy myself with things I can do while standing up. Once I've accepted that I'm out of bed, actually moving on to doing stuff gets a bit easier.
I told myself as soon as I left my job that I'd instantly get my shit together, that I'd spend all day out walking in the sun and junk, now that time wasn't an issue. But instead I just spent weeks in bed feeling awful, and feeling doubly awful for breaking all those promises to myself. So I had to dial it way back and instead just promise myself something absurdly simple, like to open my curtains and windows when I woke up in the morning, to get up for the five minutes it takes to make a cup of tea, to bypass the Cheerios and cook a proper meal, etc. Just building up slowly from a starting point that feels unquestionably possible, and making a move towards something positive like sunlight, fresh air, human contact.
Broke new ground today when I put on a Kinks album and ended up dancing my ass off :3

I came across these talks a while back and they've really stuck in the back of my mind when it comes to small positive steps, might be of interest:
https://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_the_game_that_can_give_you_10_extra_years_of_life?language=en
https://www.ted.com/talks/guy_winch_the_case_for_emotional_hygiene?language=en
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>>121685901

Reminds me of when Heath Ledger died and I was still hoping for him to pop out from behind a curtain when the Oscars rolled around ;_;
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^:)

Fuck off to bed Lucy
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What do you guys think of this:
https://vimeo.com/81047160

For me it really hits close to home as far as the aspects of this game that have stuck with me and won't let go, like the relationship between Max and Chloe, and the way time and memory have such an emotional impact on our lives.
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>>121688303
That was his best damn outfit.
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>>121688331
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>Choosing between the waffle and omelette in episode 2 actually effects what food Subconscious!Max is eating in the nightmare in episode 5
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>>121688553
Your choices matter!
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>>121687450
>Arcadia Bay is based on Coos Bay, Oregon
I thought the whole Coos Bay thing was just some random anon who came in to say he was from here, and that there was one particular view that bared some resemblance to the view from the lighthouse ... sorta, if you squint.

Arcadia Bay certainly seems to be based more on Tillamook Bay. The framed photo in the upstairs hallway of the Price's house is of Tillamook Bay, and David Madsen's GPS coordinates point to the same bay as well. Most of the developers have never been to Oregon, so they stated that nowhere specific was used to draw inspiration (rather, they pulled from the area in general), but it appears they ended up settling on Tillamook for the general location, at least.

I'm an autist.
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>>121688331
That was hugely interesting to watch, thanks for sharing.
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>>121687450
CANON
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>>121688553

But what about pancakes/eggs and bacon?
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>>121688904
Nope
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>>121688331
>we appear, and we disappear
>and we are so important to some, but we are just passing through
ouch, my feels
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>>121689242
Marshfield OTP
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>>121689414
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>>121688904
>>121689242
>>121689414
>>121689554


don't start that shit again..

WE LOVE KATE
WE LOVE VICTORIA
WE LOVE CHLOE
WE LOVE MAX

except cu.cks
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>>121689554
Max is literally looking out her window at a corpse in this screenshot. Her smile is totally creepy as fuck when you remember this.
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>>121689630
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>>121689620
>WE LOVE KATE
>WE LOVE VICTORIA
Max doesn't.
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I wish I had friends.
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>>121689620
Amen, I just want four walls and adobe slabs for my girls
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So the devs confirmed that the Bluejay isn't supposed to represent Rachel Amber.

It's obviously supposed to be Chloe, right?

- They're both blue. Duh. Babby's first comparison.

- The first time we "meet" both of these characters, they're killed. In both cases, we rewind time to save them.

- Afterwards, the bird gets trapped in the house. You could interpret this as mirroring Chloe being trapped in a doomed timeline?

- Max has to help the bird escape the house. Much like one of the decisions at the end is to "help" Chloe escape the timeline ... through death. We've had a few discussions about whether it's a good thing to let the Bluejay back out of the house, given that we've seen that all the birds outside are dying. By "rescuing" the bird, we may be killing it.

- Max finds a Bluejay nest in the garage in Episode 4. A little family of eggs that Joyce has been looking out for. If you disturb the nest, bad. If you let it be, good. Lesson for Max - don't disrupt the Bluejay nest!

And of course, it makes sense for Rachel Amber to have a Bluejay feather on her earring if it represents Chloe. Cause Chloe is all over her.
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>>121690089
and for what?
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>>121690271
gtfo Mari. game ended stop makin' stupid theories
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I finally had enough free time from school to play through episode 5.

This game fucked me up.
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>>121690405
Hug?
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>>121690405
Now you're one of us, the wretched
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>>121690271
You're overthinking it, devs didn't bother tying everything together just threw a lot of random symbols into the game
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>>121690405

Man, we need a support group or something.
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>>121690405
Welcome aboard.
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>>121690669
lifeisstrange.com/talk
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>>121690405
It goes away, nearly 3 weeks in and everything is returning to normal apathy, can't decide if that's a good or a bad thing.
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>>121688681

the image that keeps getting posted is from Portland too
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I feel like there was a reallllly cute scene we never got to see in the game.

After the end of Episode 1, Chloe drives Max home to her dorm, and then goes home for dinner herself. Then she is at dinner with Joyce and David, and she can't stop bouncing around and talking about how Max is back. Joyce sees that she is super happy. ^_^

And then, of course, David enters the conversation to mention how nosey Max is, maybe about the drugs, Chloe gets angry, and they have a happy Price Chloe/David fight.

But the first part of it would have been cute as fuck. :3
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>>121690089
I'm your friend.
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>>121690713
>turning to the people who fucked you up to get less fucked up
That's like buying a bag of frozen peas from the guy that gave you a black eye.

But to get a little candid, I honestly did consider calling someone after the episode ended and fucked me right up, and the existence of the talk page is what made me say 'no, fuck that, fuck you, fuck everything,' because I felt so goddamn betrayed. Especially considering Nathan's shoddy treatment was what I was most upset about at the time. Turn to Dontnod for my mental health? HAH, no thanks, I'd rather not get killed off.

Thanks for being there for me when I needed you, /lisg/, dunno what I would have done without you. Probably would have avoided getting so invested in a videogame in the first place to the point of depending on it as a crutch for my brain problems, but still.
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>>121690479
>>121690549
>>121690669
>>121690671
>>121690754
Wow wasn't expecting that many responses, but thanks guys.
I feel so emotionally dead inside right now.
it probably doesn't help that I stayed up to 7am either though

I really want to draw some fanart of this game now, but I'm not sure when I'd have the time with school.
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>>121691050
GET ANGRY

YOURE NOTICING THE RIGHT THINGS

THEY DONT WANT YOU TO THINK THESE THINGS

THEY WANT YOU TO BE SAD

DESPONDANT

THEY WANT YOU TO BE EMOTIOANLLY AFFECTED BECAUSE IT GIVES THE ILLUSION OF POWERFUL WRITING

DO NOT GIVE THEM THE SATISFACTION

DO NOT PLAY INTO LE EPIC :^^^^^))) IMAGINATION WRITING TEAM'S HANDS
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>>121691210
>I'm not sure when I'd have the time with school.
then draw at school
if it make you feel better
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>>121691335
Why is her neck broken
Or why are her legs backwards
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>>121691215

I love you, caps anon. I promise I've gotten as angry as I can get. And nothing about my negative emotions carries anything resembling satisfied catharsis from a well-written tragedy. I know and love a good tragedy, and this was not one.
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>>121691384
i killed her to stop tornado
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>>121691384

I think she's lying on Chloe.
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>>121691384
You're asking the wrong questions.
The correct one would be: why isn't she under a blanket when she's got hayfever?
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>>121691210
>it probably doesn't help that I stayed up to 7am either though
I wasn't able to sleep for 3 days when I finished.
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>>121686920
They have two internal teams and want to work on Vampyr and LiS 2 at the same time. Oskar Guilbert said it a while ago in an interview.
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>>121691832
>>121691210
What the hell people, that's not how you should deal with anger!
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Anyone up for a story?
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>>121692006
Haven't seen you in a while. Go for it.
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Wow, I knew Nik was a total cutie patootie but I had no ideal Hannah was also such a sweetheart
http://limanade.tumblr.com/post/132776014985/one-of-the-things-i-love-about-life-is-strange-is
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>>121692006
Please deliver us from this suffering scat anon
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>>121692006
Yesssssssssss plz Max's nuttela
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>>121692006
Nah, thanks, I'm good.
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>>121691926
Is there any chance that could effect the quality of either game? Telltale wasn't doing itself any favours when it tried tackling two adventure games at the same time.
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>>121691962
Not angry, just disappointed.
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>>121691962

Hard to stay angry when you're sleeping, dude. I was an anger juggernaut for those 3 days!
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>>121691926
Really hoping that they drop the episodic format for s2, i'm not getting invested before i know the ending doesn't blow again
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>>121691335
I would, but some of the classes I'm taking this semester are hard as fuck and I already feel like I'm always behind and struggling to keep up.
Which is why is took so long for me to get around to playing ep 5 in the first place.
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>>121692437
Had you said that prior to October 20th I might have disagreed with you. Now though, a second season would suffer constant scrutiny because of the looming possibility that they'll fuck everything up at the end. Dropping the episodic format could actually help with making choices matter. The five act structure tends to be very restricting, limiting players to a particular set of locations.
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>>121692064
Been a bit busy, sorry man
Got a plot idea in mind?
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>>121690271
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!) (thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't doe,or butterfly,bluejay or even shit.
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's Chloe just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it.
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)
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>>121692752
I think a week ago I suggested Max pranking Victoria and scaring the shit out of her.
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>>121692817
12 FUCKING WEEKS!!!
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Good afternoon cunts :)
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>>121692817
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
If they had done a Jefferson song/dance scene that was as fun as Gaston's, all would have been forgiven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK3x2DOoJIc
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>>121692841
Gotcha'

Max smiled as she spread the red stained shit over her torn up clothes. Victoria had been ignoring her lately and after not attending her classes for a week had gotten an onslaught of texts from her. She needed to know that she cared. Max opened her window in her dorm to set the scene. She then proceeded to tip her desk over, and throw her torn up bed quilt and pillows on the ground carelessly. On the ground she spread more liquid red shit. This needed to look like a crime scene, and she needed to look dead. Creating a few more tears in her clothes and dripping more of the red shit over her body, she lay on her side on the ground, closed her eyes and waited. Not too far away from her dropped under the window, and red shit stained knife. This was going to be so good.

(what next nig nogs?)
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>>121693073
Victoria comes along I suppose.
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>>121693073
nathan enter the room
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>>121692719
>second season would suffer constant scrutiny

Fucking hell this, even if they do a second season, even if i bother pirating it, even if they manage the same comfy atmosphere, even if they create characters i would normally get attached to, i won't, the knowledge that it's all created by people who think tragedy for the sake of tragedy is a good thing will always be there
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>>121693239
The road to forgiveness is a long one. I'd probably cave in and buy it, but it'd be out of desperation to recapture the fun of the first four episodes instead of me actually trusting Dontnod to make a good game all the way through. Just imagine that, 10 months of eyeing them with suspicion, waiting for them to ruin the story.
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>>121693197

There was a knock on the door. Max remained stoic on the floor. "Maxine?" Another knock. It was Victoria. "I'm coming in, I need to know you're okay.." Victoria opened the door and froze at what she saw. Max was lying motionless on the floor in what was very smelly blood. Glancing up and around the room Victoria could see it was a mess. Had someone broke in and attacked Max? She rushed forwards and rolled Max onto her back. She was entirely limp. "Max? Maxine, can you hear me?" She shook her. Max gave no response. "Oh, Max..no..no no no no no.." Victoria scooped up Max's upper torso and clutched her tightly against her body, rocking back and forth with her as she broke out into sobs.
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Remember all those anons who used to leave posts saying that Episode 5 was going to be shit.
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>>121693570
ANONS WERE RIGHT
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>>121693570
>>121693704
They weren't right. Episode 5 wasn't shit, it was just unsatisfying.
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>>121655576
Well obviously they first designed Chloe since she is the secondary protagonist, then eventually her parents based on the final design.
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>>121693848
>Episode 5 wasn't shit

Everything *(story)* was fine until Episode 5
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>>121693848
it was pretty bad and i'm not even talking just about the endings. the fact that the nightmare scene is actually the best thing about the episode is pretty sad
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>>121693570
I didn't even believe myself though I knew it was going to be a big disappointment. I fucking called it but I'm not happy about it at all...
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>>121662042
>>121662265
>>121663428
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>>121694030
Nah, the best parts were the classroom and San Francisco scenes. Those actually felt tonally appropriate to Life is Strange. Nathan's phone call was pretty good as well. The nightmare on the other hand is just an excessive waste. It had some creative ideas but it reeks of pretentiousness. The writers were convinced they were saying something far more meaningful than they really were. There's just so much faux symbolism, padding and forced guilt-tripping that would have been far better spent on something on more narratively cohesive scenes with the real supporting cast (instead of warped hallucinations).
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>>121693556
What next?
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>>121694291
the classroom scene is fucking awful with max's summerizing speeches ... its like in cliched teenage dramas when the hero gives some gay speech to the big bully and sumerizes whatever the audience thought so far. at least the hug was cute
san fran was okay but the horrendous VA quality was just offputting
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>implying literally anyone here wont be buying the season two the moment it becomes available
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>>121695129
We're not. We're just saying that the atmosphere will be a lot more bitter the next time round and we'll have our eyes out for any sign that the story will go to shit. I'm willing to bet there'll be a few more pirates as well.
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>>121693848
It really was shit though.
It made everyone into retards, created jarring plotholes and the resolutions to everybody's stories were laughable save for maybe David and Chloe (if she is saved, otherwise she is obviously reset to point 0). It was also inconsistent with previous episodes in themes and relied on cheap shock/sadness values in an attempt to mask its shortcomings.
I mean episode 4 already foreshadowed the story going to shit with dumb plot developments and Dontnod's inability to stick to the logic they created but you still had hopes they will somehow savage the story. But no.

It was an embarassing conclusion to something this promising an amazingly set up for 3 episodes.
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>>121694030
Nah, I don't think it was bad overall.

The fact that it left many plot points resolved in an unsatisfying way aside, I feel like one of the bigger "problems" was just that it felt like the least "Life is Strange"-like episode. There was basically zero comfy, with the whole episode being really dark. There was much more focus on timeline-jumping, and therefore conversing with discontinuous characters; and somewhat less focus on "the player walks around the scene and puzzles with everyone" gameplay scenes. There was much more cut-sceney dialogue stuff. And, of course, the nightmare was totally different to the sort of stuff we've seen before (though I was one of the folks who loved the nightmare scene).

Overall, I felt like Max was a lot less "mobile" in this episode. The only scenes where we really got to walk around and explore significantly were the gallery and town-in-the-storm ... and the nightmare. The gallery scene included zero puzzles and basically zero conversations, the town scene felt like I was in a rush, and the nightmare scene ... well, it just stood apart from everything else.
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>>121695408
A few quick points

>created jarring plotholes
Genuine question - what plotholes? There has been a lot of discussion about plots that ended cheaply or unsatisfactory, but I can't recall anything that was a genuine plot *hole*. Examples?

>It was also inconsistent with previous episodes in themes ...
I disagree. The themes have been pretty consistent throughout the game. Whether you LIKED the culmination of the themes with the ending decision is another matter entirely.
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So what happened with this game is they were planning one ending, and for some reason it got thrown out. Dontnod claims they changed their minds and didn't want that ending anymore, but fans say it was more likely because of budget or something else. We don't really know.

In any case, for whatever reason they made a new ending and slapped it in place of the ending that was originally supposed to be there, and now nothing makes sense because it doesn't sit right on top of the already established story.

Is that about right?
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>>121695559
besides saying "I don't think it was bad overall." your whole post has not a single positive thing to say about the episode senpai
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>>121695763
>what plotholes?
Fucking really?

We've talked about it for lenghts during the last 2 weeks
Fucking look it up
This is a good start
>>121661396



Okay, I guess none, maybe my imagination :) levels are just not good enough.

>>121695763

>The themes have been pretty consistent throughout the game.

Okay

Theme of episodes 1-4: Help people
The moral of EP5: Don't help people
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>>121695785
SE decided that what Dontnod wants to do is too gay and stepped in with their Japanese fate melancholy bullshit.
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>>121695785
>Is that about right?
Precisely

There is just too many loose ends for it to be planned this way from the beginning;
>spirit animals
>native americans
>sean prescott and his fucking unknown family legacy
Feel free to add more
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>>121695850
Because, as stated, I was focusing on what I saw as the "problems" of the episode?
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>>121696213
thats an odd way to show that the episode isnt bad
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>>121696053
>Fucking really?
Fucking really. You must be one of those people who doesn't understand what a "plot hole" actually is. "I didn't like the explanation", or "the explanation was cheap", or "a detail was purposefully left mysterious" are not examples of plot holes. But that's pretty much the entirety of the "plot hole" complaints that have been posted.

>Theme of episodes 1-4: Help people
>The moral of EP5: Don't help people
Are you sure you played the same game I did?
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>>121696459
Amusing.
That post I linked.
Please, try to address the first capped post in it.

>inb4 lmao logic in a time travel story?! XD
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>>121695763
>what plotholes?

>Max is too retarded to warn anybody when she goes back
>Chloe is too retarded to save herself and her family in the SF timeline
>Max forgets about the tornado
>No, seriously
>She forgets about it
>She fucking forgets about a giant fucking killer tornado
>She also doesn't think to text David when she goes back to tear her photo, even though she did it in the previous photo, so she gets captured again
>Jefferson is a timelord in disguise because he manages to kidnap Victoria (if you warn her) and still be ahead of Max and Chloe
>He is also a skilled fighter, apparently, because holy fuck, kick that table, David
>Bay ending doesn't work because autopilot Max would just rewind again
>Tornado isn't explained in the slightest (don't start with that "it was left mysterious on purpose" bullshit)
>Max's powers weren't explained in the slightest
>Somehow one unexplained thing is connected to another unexplained thing in an unexplained way and it's supposed to make sense
>The whole tornado is a giant gaping plot hole that has no logical explanation and is there just for m-muh tragedy
The title of Episode 5 should've been "Retardation".
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>>121696923
But really.
The entire conclusion of EP4 and 5 relies on all the characters being literally retards. First with Jefferson and then with the tornado.
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>>121696923
Not that guy, but he's right, none of those things are technically plot holes, they're just more like oversights or omissions.

Plot hole is when two things in a story logically contradict each other, it's not when plot elements are not explained adequately or satisfactorily.

But this really just is semantics, doesn't change anything about why people were irritated with it.
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>>121696819
It has been addressed countless times in these threads. Have you been keeping up?

The timelines are all connected. We know that each individual timeline tries to keep itself (somewhat) paradox free by propagating changes BACKWARDS when need be. For example, when Max picks up an inventory item or eats food, only to rewind. The inventory item is already picked up, the food is already eaten, despite this not making sense. The timelines try to keep themselves consistent by propagating Max's choices backwards. All the various alternate-timelines are connected somewhere along the line - so it's perfectly reasonable that something causing catastrophic issues in one timeline might also cause issues in the others.

We know why the Chloe decision is the important one, and why IT is the one fucking shit up. It's because it's the FIRST change that Max makes with her powers. Not the "earliest in the timeline" change, the "first" change "causally" that kicks everything off. I agree that they could have done a better job visually showing the storm getting worse, or some such, as she made additional changes (saving William, etc), but the point stands regardless.

"Chloe" wasn't important or special. It was the fact that saving her was the FIRST change Max made. Chloe dying elsewhere doesn't correct this change, the timeline is still fucked up. Max needs to go back and correct that change - it's about the alteration, not Chloe herself.

Seriously, we've been over this point dozens of times in these threads.
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>>121697213
However, Max and Chloe are consistently retarded throughout the whole episode 5. Well, Chloe is mostly dead, but when she's alive, she is retarded.
First Max misses Nathan's call (though, technically, time-wise it happened in Ep 4). Then she neglects to mention a tornado to Chloe during the parking lot focus, so that when she gets replaced by autopilot Max, Chloe could come up with a plan to save at least her family. Then she has to rely on Warren to explain to her the thing she had known since episode... 2, I think.

>>121697334
Plot hole is a logical inconsistency in the story. A character knowing about the impeding danger and not doing anything about it seems pretty illogical to me.
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>>121696923
>what plotholes?
>not a single plot hole in your post

Again, do you even know what a plot hole is? "A character does something dumb" isn't an example of a plot hole.

>Bay ending doesn't work because autopilot Max would just rewind again
Assuming she doesn't lose her powers when she let's Chloe die to correct the initial change to the timeline. Which is a reasonable interpretation. Again, "a detail that has a reasonable explanation was not explicitly explained" is not an example of a plot hole.

>Tornado isn't explained in the slightest (don't start with that "it was left mysterious on purpose" bullshit)
I'm not happy it was left 100% mysterious either. But that doesn't change the fact that it's not a plot hole.

I'm all for criticism of Episode 5, and the series as a whole. But can we at least do it in a way that doesn't make us look pants-on-head retarded?
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>>121697381
not the first change, max fixes her camera first and steals the answer from Victoria, not to mention she has a vision of the tornado before even that

>parallel timelines affecting other timelines

if that were true then the tornado would happen anyone since about half the Max's let it happen in their realities.
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>>121697568
>"A character does something dumb" isn't an example of a plot hole.
It is when it contradicts the logic of the story.

>>121697615
No, saving Chloe happened before fixing camera and all that. And vision was supposed to be a prediction. Predictions usually happen before shit hits the fan, that's why they are... well, predictions.
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>>121697615
>not the first change, max fixes her camera first and steals the answer from Victoria, not to mention she has a vision of the tornado before even that
Re-read what I said. The first change "causally", not the earliest change in the timeline. The very first change Max makes in the narrative of the game is saving Chloe. She does it by accident, before doing the rewinds in the classroom, saving Chloe again, etc, etc. There were changes she made earlier still, like tearing up her contest photo in her dorm sometime prior to Monday afternoon. But the point is that the first time she saved Chloe, accidentally, is what kicked everything off. The drop of rain that started the flood.
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>>121697381
Have you been keeping up when people countless of times addressed how this "explanation" is bullshit and basically says "it's magic, ain't gotta explain anything" which is exactly the same as
>>121696819
>lmao logic in a time travel story?! XD

Also
>explaining focus with how rewind works

It doesn't matter that it's the first thing that she changed, she made countless of changes since then and she goes back to a timeline where she already altered time. She burned her childhood photo of her and Chloe when she was 13, she torn the contest photo and she cheated for answers in the classrom. She travells to the bathroom from that timeline. Not the one she made for the first time.
You are making just some half assed illogical meta explanation based on assumptions.
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>>121697615
>>121697679
Although now that you've mentioned it, technically, when she rewinds for the first time Chloe isn't saved yet. She still is going to die, nothing had changed except that Max now has the knowledge of the future.
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>>121697508
>A character knowing about the impeding danger and not doing anything about it seems pretty illogical to me.

I don't think it's extremely difficult to imagine why they wouldn't have told people that there was a massive tornado coming even though the weather service had no forecast of such thing but they should just believe it because Max can see the future.

Sure, I guess they could have tried to warn people, but it's not illogical at all for them to just assume that no one would believe them.

I guess they could have fixed the problem by adding in some lines of dialogue about how they tried to warn people but no one would listen. But even so, it just doesn't really strike me as some nail in the coffin oversight, more like a gripe.
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>>121697381
>it's about the alteration, not Chloe herself.

Then earth is fucked. Max has been tremendously changed by her experiences during the week, every action she takes after that will be different to what would have happened if she never used time powers.
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>>121697381
>It's because it's the FIRST change that Max makes with her powers. Not the "earliest in the timeline" change, the "first" change "causally" that kicks everything off.
It doesn't fucking matter if it was the "first" change. Even if we buy into this ludicrous idea that the universe is only concerned about the first change from Max's perspective (not the real first chronological change) that doesn't get around the fact that the supposed origin point is gone and it can never come back.

The butterfly photo that Max uses on the Friday was taken after she had first used her powers to go back to the classroom and experimented with them. The original butterfly photo from a change-free timeline is gone for good.

We know for a fact that autopilot Max can and does use her powers after the bathroom incident. The younger Max (by five days) that the present one jumps into is aware of and capable of using her powers. She has no idea of the storm and as soon as the possession ends she would instinctively reverse what the Max from Friday did.

Going back into the butterfly photo would do absolutely nothing to stop the storm. End of story.
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>>121697568
>Again, "a detail that has a reasonable explanation was not explicitly explained" is not an example of a plot hole.
It is if they didn't specify she lost her powers. "Reasonable interpretation" my ass. There is nothing in the story pointing to it, thus yes it is a plot hole.
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>>121697381
>Chloe dying elsewhere doesn't correct this change, the timeline is still fucked up. Max needs to go back and correct that change - it's about the alteration, not Chloe herself.

This interpretation is convenient because it explains why Chloe had to die right then and there in the bathroom. Still the problem with it is that it ignores the fact that Chloe is the butterfly and there would be an obvious connection between the butterfly and the tornado. Unless you're just saying that was a red herring.
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>>121697875
Not all people, maybe, but her closest friends and Chloe's family.
It's not like she had to tell the truth. Just lie about a party with pizza and lesbians in the nearest bomb shelter, I'm sure half of the town is going to be there in ten minutes.

I'm exaggerating, obviously, but still. I'm pretty sure that Kate and Warren would've believed Max. Maybe even Victoria, if Max had befriended her. And Victoria has some power over other Blackwell students. Then David and Joyce, who Chloe could probably convince to stay at home because reasons.
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>>121698084
>Tfw Life Is Strange was never meant to be the epic time travel story about the power of friendship that left you feel awesome like Undertale or Higurashi
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>>121692157
They already had two internal teams while developing LiS Season 1. So it won't affect the quality, I think.
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>>121697381
>it's the FIRST change that Max makes with her powers
It doesn't start being a "change" until Max actually saves Chloe. When she activates her powers for the first time, she simply goes back in time. Chloe is still going to meet Nathan, Nathan is still going to get pissed off, and Chloe is still going to die. Now when she goes into that bathroom and triggers the alarm instead of doing nothing, THEN it becomes a change. But that change happens after the other changes — Max breaking/fixing her camera and answering the question right.
You could argue that those two changes weren't significant enough — and there would be no way to prove or disprove your argument, since there's no criteria for which events are determinative and which don't lead to any significant outcomes. But it's still not the FIRST change.
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Let's take a moment to appreciate how well written the romantic subplot in Life is Strange was. I'm currently playing Fallout 4 and the romance dialogue is the following:

"I appreciate that you're listening. You're a good friend."
"Just a friend, huh?"
"Well yeah, unless something changes."

God, that is so cringeworthy.
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>>121698434
Better than
>Leave
>Hug
>Kiss
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>>121680227
Cool that you are reading every single thread.
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>>121698495
Don't you mean
>Romance?
>Kiss
>Glass Her
>Sarcasm
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>>121698434
Now we just need dontnod to write characters and their interactions, and team up with someone who does actual gameplay and overall story well. It's all Square Enix what are the odds they'll make some Life is Strange/Legacy of Kain/Tomb Raider combination mega game ?
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>>121698672
Anon, that's not how you address Katemarshfan69. Are you new to this general?
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>>121697854
>Posts a reasonable explanation based on examples of how the interconnected timelines attempt to maintain consistency despite paradoxical alterations
>"LOL NAH FUCK DIS SHIT"
Once more, /lisg/ demonstrates it's high quality critical skills.

>>121697951
I agree in principal, but I think there is room for a little bit of leeway here. Afterall, we're lead to believe that Max jumps back into the main-game timeline at the start of Episode 4, despite her clearly not acting identically in the 2008 focus as she did originally. I think it's fair to not worry about every itsy bitsy little detail, even if just for the sake for narrative.

>... that doesn't get around the fact that the supposed origin point is gone and it can never come back.
As above, all the timelines are interconnected and seemingly try to keep themselves paradox free. What we do know is that the changes Max made before re-entering the bathroom have no effect on the bathroom scene playing out as it did previously. Remember that she only made those few changes after a "regular" rewind in the bathroom, so by the game's logic, the event in the bathroom IS the same event, even if some other details of the timeline are different (contest entry torn up earlier, etc).

>She has no idea of the storm and as soon as the possession ends she would instinctively reverse what the Max from Friday did.
If she still has her powers after Max corrects the initial change. It's reasonable to suggest that she'd lose them at this stage. It certainly seems to be what happens, given that she obviously DOESN'T rewind.

>>121697991
>"Reasonable interpretation" my ass. There is nothing in the story pointing to it ...
Except there is. The fact that auto-pilot Max DIDN'T rewind it all. Perfectly reasonable.
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>>121698672
Please point to where the bad tripfag touched you.
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>>121698014
>Still the problem with it is that it ignores the fact that Chloe is the butterfly ...
Except we don't know whether Chloe is supposed to be represented by the butterfly or not. It has been a long running assumption, but it's far from clear.
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This whole argument about fixing the timeline to how it supposed to be doesn't work not only because there is no original timeline anymore and there will never be, it also doesn't work because Max plain doesn't belong to the post Tornado timeline.
She has knowledge of stuff she wouldn't have otherwise and she will never act the way clueless Max would. Sooner or later she will change something significant again and another Tornado will come.

I mean think about it. What if Victoria is destined to die sometime in the future, but since our Max befriended her on the day of her planned death they are together and Max saves her when the original Max wouldn't because they were never friends?

The only way for that shit explanation to work would be if Max's consciousness ceased to exist or Max offed herself after the funeral.
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>>121698831
>The fact that auto-pilot Max DIDN'T rewind it all.
Explain to me how Chloe knows about Max's rewind powers in the timeline where Max spent the whole week on autopilot (torn photo timeline/SF timeline).
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>>121698998
My bad, not in the SF timeline. Just the torn photo one.
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>>121698831
>Posts a reasonable explanation based on examples of how the interconnected timelines attempt to maintain consistency despite paradoxical alterations
Don't be so full of yourself.
This is all just your clueless assumptions, none of these things are ever proved in the story.

"This doesn't work but I made up a headcanon where it works" doesn't fix the story mate.
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>people eat up a mediocrely written YA plot
>they go ape because by the end the time travel cheese is logicly flaw'd
fucking kek you just mad there is no happy qt lesbian ending with rainbows and instead focus on the time cheese to give your anger some air. no need to reply. i know how much that thought is triggering you.
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>>121698831
Just stop. You're inventing completely asinine excuses for writers who clearly didn't put the slightest bit of thought into how their time travel functions. Just because we see everything work out doesn't mean that there's a logical in-story reason for that. Auto-pilot Max didn't use her powers? So what? That's not proof that the ending makes sense. All you're saying is that the ending is self-evident and doesn't need to justify itself. Your argument is riding on the assumption that the writers are just somehow always right.
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>>121699231
>people eat up badly written plot
>people get irritated the plot is badly written

you seem to be contradicting yourself.
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>>121699082
In SF timeline Chloe still knows about Max's powers though?
She calls her saying that her visions came true.
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>>121699517
you seem to have some issues with reading comprehension
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>>121699082
No you were right. Chloe almost certainly is aware of Max's power in the SF timeline. We see the bathroom incident and train adventure still took place. Plus her message shows that she was told about the tornado vision.
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>>121698998
What is there to explain? Auto-pilot Max just reruns through everything that week as she did the first time. The only difference is that, later in the story, the 2008 polaroid is burned ... but the "new" auto-pilot Max just runs through Wednesday night like the previous auto-pilot Max.

Auto-pilot Max uses her powers, just like player Max. We know she knows about all her powers, because she makes rewind jokes to Chloe in text while "we" were in the alternate timeline. And in the Vortex Club party focus scene in Episode 5, Max tells Chloe to explain everything to Max after she defocuses, because she'll understand what she's talking about.

In any timeline where Max and Chloe meet up again in the bathroom, and later, the parking lot (ie. all of them except the crippled-Chloe alternate timeline), Max tells Chloe about her powers.

>>121699137
>This is all just your clueless assumptions, none of these things are ever proved in the story.
Show me where I ever argued that they were proved in the story? I said it's a *reasonable* explanation based on *examples* of how the timelines react to changes in-game. It might be totally off base for all we know, but the point is that it explains how things appear to work in a consistent way.

>>121699302
>Just because we see everything work out doesn't mean that there's a logical in-story reason for that.
Correct. The fact that there IS a logical in-story reason for that is what makes there be a logical in-story reason for it. :^)
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>>121699606
I don't think so. The fact we are complaining proves the majority of us didn't "eat the plot up".
And no, up until this episode the writing wasn't this bad, and the worst written parts had nothing to do with time travel.
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>>121699662
>Auto-pilot Max uses her powers, just like player Max.

And yet

>The fact that auto-pilot Max DIDN'T rewind it all.

Don't you see a contradiction here?
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>>121699732
thanks for proving my point
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>>121699763
Of course they can't. They're incapable of conceiving the notion that maybe the story is not infallible and could be filled with logical errors.
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>>121699835
You never had a point, guv.
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>>121699662
>it explains how things appear to work in a consistent way.
No, it's literally just "it works because it works. period"
There was nothing in the game about timelines being interconnected, about the original timeline being irrelevant as long as the moment is right and why it works despite there are already changes in that new timeline and why the autopilot Max didn't rewind even though we have no proof she ever lost her powers.
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>>121699763
I think he means that Max and thus auto-Max loses her power only in the last focus because she lets Chloe die, i. e. the event that triggered her powers to begin with. Now obviously there's the thing with her already having her powers at that point, but it could still be possible that she doesn't keep them when she doesn't intervene because the butterfly only granted them to her to protect Chloe or whatever.

Is that evidenced in the story? No. But the story states that she doesn't rewind and this is a possible explanation.
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>>121699835
Your point being?
People shouldn't complain because they should have expected nothing from the story anyway?
Thanks for your amazing contribution, now there are the door.
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>>121699763
I've addressed this. Yes, auto-pilot Max would try to rewind in the bathroom. That's not in question.

The assertion is this: Max might lose her powers after she sacrifices Chloe and sets everything "right" again. Auto-pilot Max then *CAN'T* rewind, and the week progresses with no timey-wimey stuff to the funeral.

We have no way of knowing that this is what actually happened. But it's a reasonable explanation for why she doesn't rewind. Again, as I need to keep reiterating, I'm not arguing that this is absolutely the 100% true canon explanation. I'm saying it's reasonable. I'm saying that it's unfair to call it a "plot hole". Important distinctions.
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>>121697951
>Then earth is fucked. Max has been tremendously changed by her experiences during the week, every action she takes after that will be different to what would have happened if she never used time powers.

>Max uses her new found confidence to become a famous photographer.
>Her photo series of troubled teens inspires suicidal kids to struggle through, and helps adults notice the early warning signs.
>Her avant garde photographs of the Hawt Dawg Man bring capitalism and peace to the middle east as well as the disbandment of isis.
>The combined weight of all the saved lives who were destined to die causes tornadoes, floods and earthquakes to ravage the continents.

Thanks Max.
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>>121700130
please dont make me laugh more!
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>>121700269
Can I make you kill yourself?
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>>121700130
>now there are the door
i physically cringed. thanks
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Sometimes I think I'm getting better and then I catch up on the overnight posts on a day like this, and I'm angry as fuck all over again

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>>121700168
When you need to apply mental gymnastics to cover up an illogical event, yes, it's a plot hole.

>>121700109
There's a lot of "if"s and "maybe"s in that explanation.

The origin of Max's power was never explained.
The connection between Max's self and her power was never explained
The connection between the trigger event (Chloe's death) and Max's powers was never explained

As such, every explanation is *possible*, but at the same time, every explanation is also baseless since there's literally nothing to base it upon. For all we know, LiS universe is a sentient being that just decided to fuck with Max because reasons. Is this a possible explanation? Why not, there's nothing to contradict it.
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>>121700109
It makes the story even more idiotic. If I recall correctly there was dialogue between Max and Chloe speculating that maybe she always had the power and she just needed a push. Her losing the power after letting Chloe die just makes the whole "why did the universe give her powers" conundrum even sillier. Now the universe gave her powers for one specific incident on the condition that she just not use them and would take them away again if she didn't use them. On the other hand the universe will let her keep the powers if she does use them. Just, what?

>inb4 "life is strange" that way
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>>121700168
You could have said from the beginning it's all about the imagination :)

>>121700247
Literally this.
They don't seem to be sure whether they were making a deterministic or a fatalistic story but if it was a fatalistic one, the existence of Max is a literal Vortex in a timeline now. Her actions can and will have unpredictable outcomes for as long as she lives.
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>>121699991
>No, it's literally just "it works because it works. period"
Except it's not.

>There was nothing in the game about timelines being interconnected ...
Except there is. Do I need to explain this again?

Each timeline appears to react to changes to keep itself consistent. Max can enter a room and see a crowbar on a desk. She can pick up the crowbar, then rewind to a point before she entered the room. The crowbar is no longer on the desk, despite the moment it was picked up no longer existing. This is "time travel paradox" 101 stuff. The same is true of Max eating food. The point is, the timeline tries to propagate these changes BACKWARDS in time to try to maintain some level of consistency about itself.

ALL of the alternate timelines are connected at some point. They're all offshoots from each other. So we know that alterations to one timeline affect the timeline as a whole ... and the other timelines branch off from each other.

Yes, they're interconnected. Yes, it's a reasonable argument to make that significant changes in one timeline could affect another. This certainly IS what APPEARS to be happening with the save-Chloe decision.

But, go on, continue to expertly critique this explanation with a scholarly "lol nah".
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>>121700468
>When you need to apply mental gymnastics to cover up an illogical event, yes, it's a plot hole.
What mental gymnastics? It's an incredibly simple, borderline-obvious explanation.

This is exactly the sort of shit I'm talking about though. "It has a reasonable explanation, but it's not directly explained to me, therefore it's a P L O T H O L E!!!!"
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>>121700687
>talks about timelines
>explains the rewind

You do realize those are not the same powers and don't work the same way?
Max doesn't physically teleport 5 years or 5 days back like she does when rewinding
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>>121700824
>It's an incredibly simple, borderline-obvious explanation.
An incredibly simple, baseless explanation. You don't have a base, so you're using your imagination/"logic"/whatever to fill in the gaps.

As I said, by your logic, "Loki had a shitty day at work so he decided to fuck with Max" is a reasonable explanation.
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>>121700852
I'm not sure I understand what you're suggesting.

Her regular rewind powers appear to propagate throughout the timeline as a whole to prevent these inventory-based paradoxes.

The focus powers branch new timelines off existing timelines.

If a change in Timeline A propagates back to a branching point to Timeline B, it stands that Timeline B can be affected in some way.
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>>121700468
Well, I don't think he meant to imply this shit is satisfyingly explained or anything, just that there's a reasonable explanation there and thus by definition excludes it as a "plot hole" in the narrower sense. I mean, you can go argue semantics, but ultimately I think we all share the same sentiment here. That, while yes, there's possible, maybe even "reasonable" explanations constructable, none of it is satisfying, especially not as much as the story had us expecting it would be. Me, you (presumably) and him spent a lot of time going over the game only for it to end like it did, throwing most of everything away at least in the sense that we got nothing at all to work with. That sucks. But just because there's frustrating incoherence doesn't mean it's illogical (within itself).

>>121700508
The idea is that "the universe" didn't both give her the power to save Chloe and punished her for using it. The power is some other force, maybe native magic summoned by Max's "bond" with Chloe or just the butterfly or whatever. While the consequences are either grounded on chaos theory/butterfly effect or more native magic á la Rachel. You can still kind of go "Just, what?" at that point, but it's not as paradoxical then.
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>>121700687
>Except it's not.
Except it is.

>Except there is.
Except there isn't.

>Max can enter a room and see a crowbar on a desk. She can pick up the crowbar, then rewind to a point before she entered the room. The crowbar is no longer on the desk, despite the moment it was picked up no longer existing. This is "time travel paradox" 101 stuff. The same is true of Max eating food. The point is, the timeline tries to propagate these changes BACKWARDS in time to try to maintain some level of consistency about itself.
What you're doing is applying gameplay mechanics to the story. In something like say Final Fantasy the characters don't actually fight in a way that involves them waiting for each other's turn. In modern FPSs the protagonists don't literally have the ability to rapidly regenerate to a healthy state after getting hit by machine gun fire. Life is Strange almost never acknowledges paradoxes like items staying with Max. The only time anyone (Chloe) notices anything is when Max gets into the principal's office. If it was really that important you'd be having people in the hallways noticing that Max is teleporting from point to point. It's clearly a mechanic that the developers didn't really intend the audience think too much about.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/life-is-strange-2-confirmed-by-dontnod/ well looks like its happening.
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>>121701145
Sodding cocks.
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>>121701145
That article just repeats the stuff that was said in the interview, though.
There was no official confirmation by anybody from the staff.
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>>121700956
>An incredibly simple, baseless explanation.
Except it's not baseless, because she obviously doesn't use her rewind powers, despite us knowing she would in that circumstance.

Again, I'm not arguing that it is THE explanation. I'm arguing that it's a REASONABLE explanation. I'm arguing that "it's not explained, therefore it's a plot hole" is a fallacy.

>As I said, by your logic, "Loki had a shitty day at work so he decided to fuck with Max" is a reasonable explanation.
It's a contrived explanation. But we don't know why Max got her powers. Maybe it WAS Loki. :^) Feel free to argue that this was a poor decision on Dontnod's part, or that it is "bad writing". But those are not synonymous with "plot hole".
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>>121701019
The fact that you are bringing up inventory based paradoxes for discussion about how the story works sums up how sad your case is.
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>>121701145

>confirmed
>article cites the same rumor based on that one french article without any official statement from Dontnod yet

Fucking games journalists, man.
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>http://www.pcgamer.com/life-is-strange-2-confirmed-by-dontnod/ well looks like its happening.
>>I haven't played Life is Strange, but I have just started following a Let's Play on YouTube, and I'm intrigued to see where the story's heading.
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>>121701036
>But just because there's frustrating incoherence doesn't mean it's illogical (within itself).
Because there's no logic behind it. No explanation. Nothing. It can't be illogical because any explanation you can provide would fit.

>>121701375
Okay then. It wasn't a plot hole.
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>>121701130
Again, your criticism is essentially just "lol nah". Whether it's a mechanic the developers didn't intend the audience to think too much about is beside the point - as I've said repeatedly, I'm not arguing that this is THE explanation. I'm saying it's AN explanation that fits the observed evidence.
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>>121701145
>Something we've already known
>Writing an article based off one line of text on the internet
>Calling it "confirmed" like it's some official statement
>Watching a play-through on YouTube
These people have the gall to call themselves "Journalists"?
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>>121701036
>The power is some other force, maybe native magic summoned by Max's "bond" with Chloe or just the butterfly or whatever.
And why has this power seemingly never existed before in the LiS-universe? Max does some fairly serious research into time travel and finds nothing resembling her experience.

Suppose Native American magic had something to do with it. Couldn't that mean that someone gained rewind powers before the invention of photographs? Just think about how much of an insanely lucky turn of events it is that Max just happens to have a photo with her reflection from the apparent origin point of her power. By all rights there should be a whole bunch of historical incidents with insane weather patterns and eclipses appearing out of nowhere.

What about other forms of mysticism? Is there Native South American magic that can cause time travel? European druids? Shaolin monks?
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>>121701421
Another contentless criticism.

I'm going to have to take it that, at this point, nobody can actually come up with any reasonable arguments against my explanation.

"I don't like it" is fine. "I don't feel like that's what the developers were going for" is fine. But they're also actually arguments against why the explanation works. Please try to keep this in mind when replying.
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>>121701375
By your logic nothing is ever a plot hole because you could always imagine a possible explanation no matter how retarded and baseless it is.

Max doesn't keep the photo of David after rewinding despite the fact she should keep everything she has on her? She actually did but a tiny tooth fairy stole it!

Max can let Chloe kill Frank despite her being able to just rewind after the confrontation with the book in her hand so the confrontation never happens? A devil possessed her for a while and wanted to make her best friend a murderer!

Jefferson being able to announce the party winner, wait for Victoria to come to him, kidnap Victoria, go to the Junkyard and wait for Chloe and Max to ambush them despite them leaving before him? He is actually a mutant with super speed but it glitched during the Dark Room Segments!
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>>121701832
>reasonable arguments against my explanation.
Jesus wept, the ego is just dripping off of each and every word. We have explained in thread after thread why the endings don't work. You are not providing explanations. What you are doing is assuming that the endings are self-evident and applying headcanons to justify them.
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>>121701832
>reasonable arguments against my explanation

First your explanations would have to be reasonable.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/life-is-strange-ending/

>The message that using your powers to change the world is wrong is a troubling one.

Why is it that people assume that this is THE message of the game when there's an ending that allows you to disregard it? Do people really believe that strongly that Bay is canon and bae is just some afterthought?

Seems like Bay is basically a hollywood tearjerker ending they threw in for the feels, but there's so much in the game like >>121689734 indicating that saving Chloe is valid and not just some bone getting thrown out.

Put it this way, if TLoU had decided to give you a choice with a sappy hollywood ending, it wouldn't be surprising if everyone jumped on the idea that the 'sacrifice Ellie' ending would be canon. . . but in that case they would obviously have been wrong. Obviously not that that's directly relevant, but I just think the reaction is annoying.
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>>121701938
>By your logic nothing is ever a plot hole because you could always imagine a possible explanation no matter how retarded and baseless it is.
Not really. The difference is that I'm not pulling a "the tooth fairy/satan/santa clause did it" type explanation from my ass. "Max might lose her powers once she corrects the timeline" is an exceptionally vanilla suggestion. Max seemingly gained her powers during her first run through that scene, it's reasonable that correcting things would have her lose her powers in the same scene. REASONABLE, not the gospel truth.

If I had argued that autopilot Max was JUST about to use her powers, but aliens suddenly abducted her and wiped her memory of all knowledge of powers before putting her back down in the bathroom ... yeah, I'd be agreeing that it was contrived, dumb, bullshit. :^)

Shrugging and suggesting "maybe fixing the timeline removes her powers too?" is child's play in comparison.

>>121702075
>Jesus wept, the ego is just dripping off of each and every word.
This is one of those "this says more about you than it says about me" moments.

>We have explained in thread after thread why the endings don't work.
And I have explained in thread after thread why they DO work. And the extent of the criticism to these explanations, basically, is "well it wasn't explicitly stated, so nahh".

Seriously, are you people so bitter that "here is an explanation for how it might have worked" is so offensive?

>>121702120
"lol nahhh"
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>>121701938

>He is actually a mutant with super speed

>Jefferson is a speedster who travelled back in time
>lost his speedforce, so he's now stuck in 2013
>realizes Max has the power of time rewind, so he alters events in a way to force her to awaken her powers to save her best friend
>his plan was to kidnap Max and somehow extract her awakened powers to make it back to his time period
>tornado has actually nothing to do with any of this, it's Weather Wizard fighting the Flash off screen

Suddenly it all makes sense.
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>>121701676
Hey, again, I'm not saying it's satisfying. And neither was he. We could also just have had the "hospital" ending be one where Max wakes up from a coma because she was in a car accident and dreamed it all. That would be even more unsatisfying for many.

I think there's a lot of stuff in the game that doesn't seem too consistent or authentic, and the lack of explanations for the core functioning of the plot as well as subplots being rendered more or less useless is annoying to say the least. But I think originally this argument started because people think maybe dontnod had more in mind for the story but dramatically changed it? Well, I would go with renderanon here and speculate that they really didn't. This was always what it's going to be. While it could have been a more interwoven and satisfyingly dense story, I think the major let-down here is actual execution rather than pure concept. We already had tons of ideas for how they could have made the endings better. Or little pointers they could have had here and there to give stronger direction for the underlying "logic". Or key scenes they failed to come up with for the characters that would have told a more powerful story. The red herrings could have been resolved more gracefully.

I dunno, what IS the better stance here? - That they had to cut around and kind of ruined what seemed to be a great story or that they just failed to tell that story properly? What I'm primarily mad about is how they didn't give us anything and leave everything up to imagination. They could have somehow shown us that Max had lost her travel powers for the funeral ending, that would have been great. Or given us a more clear idea about Rachel's involvement. I guess they feel real smart and think this thing will garner a "cult" following if everything's up to interpretation, but I doubt that. Maybe they wanted to give us more clarity, but then they decided to keep that under lock for the possibility of a second season?
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>>121702817
10/10 game of the year.
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>>121702696
i cant see how this statement isnt viable for both endings. both endings are a punishment in their own way and leave you indirectly with blood on your hands
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>>121702696
I think they mean that even if you decide to save Chloe, Max is still being punished for using her powers that she mostly used to help people. And she isn't learning a lesson in a logical way that would make the player understand why her good intentions paved the road to hell, but in form of a completely unreasonable and nonsensical magical tornado.
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>>121702732
>fixing the timeline
Timeline was already changed, though.
And her getting powers had nothing to do with CHANGING the timeline. She merely got the ABILITY to change it, which she could choose to use or not.
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>>121702903
Well, that may be true, but the way the guy was talking about it in the article was that the implication is that Max should just 'curl up in a ball and do nothing'. . . which I guess could be fudged to refer to either ending as well, but strikes me as more relevant to the Bay ending.
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>>121702732
>Seriously, are you people so bitter that "here is an explanation for how it might have worked" is so offensive?
There is no explanation that people in these threads wouldn't debunk, so you were clearly ignoring the posts.
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>>121703104
>Timeline was already changed, though.
I feel like we're going to go in circles over this, because we had a few back-and-forths earlier in the thread about this point.
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>>121702732
>Max seemingly gained her powers during her first run through that scene, it's reasonable that correcting things would have her lose her powers in the same scene.
But it's not the same scene?
She gains her powers and automatically rewinds to the classroom.
Her actually using and going by your headcanon losing her powers happens in a second attempt.

>And I have explained in thread after thread why they DO work.
Not really.

>Seriously, are you people so bitter that "here is an explanation for how it might have worked" is so offensive?
Because no one cares about your headcanons that rely on unholy numbers of assuptions and try to justify the mechanics of how it works with something completely unrelated.
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>>121703171
>There is no explanation that people in these threads wouldn't debunk ...
Except nobody has yet debunked anything I'm saying. At best, they're complaining that the explanations are not canon, therefore they can ignore them. And this is perfectly fine. But the point is that they cannot then argue "therefore it's a shitty plot hole!"
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>>121703171
I don't really even care much about the Max losing her powers explanation, or whatever, but I think the guy is right that some people around here seem to have become emotionally attached to their anger.
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>>121703229
Not really. No matter how you look at it, time-wise (torn photo) or causally-wise (classroom scene), the timeline first CHANGES before the bathroom scene.
The rewind itself isn't a change.
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>>121703358
Yes, you moron. No one can also debunk that tooth fairy isn't stealing Max's photos.
Doesn't mean any of your explanations have any merit or mean shit in the confinements of the story.
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>>121703558
>No one can also debunk that tooth fairy isn't stealing Max's photos.
Correct. But like I said previously, none of the explanations I've raised in these threads involve anything this contrived. You're not actually saying anything of interest here.

>Doesn't mean any of your explanations have any merit or mean shit in the confinements of the story.
Which is literally what I've already said myself several times in this thread. How many times do I need to reiterate this? I'm not arguing that these explanations ARE correct. I'm not saying they are THE explanations. I'm not even saying there ARE any canon explanations. I'm saying that they're reasonable explanations, and they appear to work given an examination of the game's timeline logic.

Again, you're not actually saying anything interesting when you say "but it's never explained in-game, therefore we don't know if we can trust your explanation". Because this this isn't the argument I'm making.

Trying to discuss things around here is painful as hell.
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>>121703235
>But it's not the same scene?
It's the same event as she rewound the first time around. If she doesn't intervene it's possible that she loses her powers because of it. Reasonable even. Her powers exist to save Chloe, that much we can reasonably assume from the story. If Chloe is gone then reasonably so are her powers.

>unholy numbers of assuptions
Only this one assumption. That I think is not too out there either?

>>121703558
He said "how it might have worked", i. e. providing an explanation that is possible and also reasonable (no aliens and stuff). Then you said that explanation can be debunked. He disagreed. Now you are calling him a moron because "even the most ridiculous shit can't be debunked". You are proving his point of you being too bitter to relax. As he already suggested, complain about shit writing and the lack of explanations, but saying it is definitely illogical or doesn't work is just not accurate.
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>>121703358
>complaining that the explanations are not canon, therefore they can ignore them.
Well, yes. We can ignore them because they are not canon. It is never confirmed in the endings or in any interviews with Dontnod that Max loses her power after Chloe dies which prevents her autopilot self from saving Chloe again. It's a half-assed idea. Why does she lose them at that point and not at any other time she used her focus ability? Because the bathroom incident and only that is the one single point at which she can lose them? Okay, so why is the player forced to rewind if Chloe is killed before you hit the fire alarm? Why didn't Max just lose her powers right then and there?
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>>121703939
That actually did just make me smile.
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>>121703939
le happy mayham face
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What the fuck is this "auto-pilot Max" bullshit? It even sounds utterly retarded.
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>>121704687
Play the game.
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>>121704291
>Well, yes. We can ignore them because they are not canon.
And this is fine. But I think it's unfair to ignore an otherwise reasonable explanation while still arguing that something makes no sense. (Not saying that this is what you're doing right now, just a general comment about this discussion as a whole).

>Okay, so why is the player forced to rewind if Chloe is killed before you hit the fire alarm?
I always took this to mean that Chloe wasn't yet properly "dead" at this point. In much the same way that all the other smash-cut-to-white failure-states we get through the game seemingly occur before the character actually dies, I assumed Chloe was still alive on the floor, but clockin' out fast. In such a case, the only time we ever actually see Chloe die in the bathroom is in the "sacrifice Chloe" ending.
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>>121704154
For the fucking last time

Fact: The Autopilot Max is able to use the rewind power

Fact: The story doesn't state the reason or the mechanics behind Max getting her powers

Fact: The story doesn't address Max supposedly losing her powers whatsoever.

Therefore, given information presented to us in the story, the auto-pilot Max not rewinding after our Max leaves her body is a plot hole.

No, your headcanon conjunction that she must have lost her powers because she failed to save Chloe is not as contrived as aliens or fairies but the idea is the same, it's not supported by anything we know, so it doesn't matter.

>>121704215
>If Chloe is gone then reasonably so are her powers.
Please explain why she didn't lose her powers when Jefferson killed Chloe in the Junkyard.
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>>121704687
When Max jumps back to a photo, she goes back to a point in the past, when she comes out of the photo jump she rejoins the present.
Say it's 12:05 and Max jumps into a photo taken at 12:00. She stays in the photo for a minute and then leaves. Those next four minutes have to be taken up until Max consciously comes back to the present time. So from 12:01 to 12:04, Max is running on a sort of autopilot. Which is why when she does rejoin the present time, she won't be aware of the events that happened around her, while to everyone else it has been normal life.
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>>121665528
Acceptance.

First time here in a week and I've properly readjusted to my life finally having moved on. You guys can do it, just don't give up hope. Oh, and in case anyone wondered, I started watching Twin Peaks since I never saw it, and so far it holds up nicely even today. I honestly didn't expect so much humor in a series like this.
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>>121704938
>autopilot
So, she just lives regularly? Calling it "autopilot" is stupid. I see it more as some "split universe shit" sprinkled with "if you can't see it, it doesn't exist".
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Why would Max lose her powers if she let Chloe die? That makes no sense.
Her power has been the one constant in every timeline, even one where the Max in it didn't seem to have the rewind. When Max changes time, she stays the same. Mentally and physically. So even if she wouldn't have gotten the power is Chloe died, she still has it because she jumped into that timeline and has all the previous knowledge of them.
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>>121705119
>she just lives regularly?
No. Between the moment she leaves the focus and the moment in the present when she originally entered it, she's unconscious.
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>>121704291
We don't know why THAT moment is so important. Just that it is. As for her other focus scenes. Chloe never dies in any of them - so the assumption that auto-Max would lose her powers then is generally solid, even without arguing the bathroom incident is somehow special.

Of course, if Chloe is shot by Jefferson Max still keeps her powers despite Chloe being dead. So we still have to assume the bathroom scene is key and somehow treated as "the moment where destiny starts" or whatever.

>Why didn't Max just lose her powers right then and there?
The moment is still there, Max still works to prevent it. In the focus she is letting it all happen willingly, she "knows" she won't be intervening and so one might argue does the spirit or whoever granted the powers.

>>121704896
>Please explain why she didn't lose her powers when Jefferson killed Chloe in the Junkyard.
Yeah, that's true. For that we have to treat the bathroom incident as something special. Which is not too hard to, though. It's after all the moment where she gains her powers, so narratively logical enough to lose them there too. And then it's also the focus realm where she loses the powers, while the junkyard is the actual timeline advancing. So there's differences in quality there to those, that can reasonably be used to do what this explanation assumes they did.
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>>121694530
I was waiting for someone to give an idea out, I like to work from ideas that anons here give me
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The comments on these articles/reddit/anywhere else saying that LiS was perfect and ended flawlessly piss me off. And shouldn't they be working on S1 DLC first?

Sigh.
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>>121704896
>Therefore, given information presented to us in the story, the auto-pilot Max not rewinding after our Max leaves her body is a plot hole.
It's just not worth even arguing this point anymore. You're just refusing to enter the actual discussion at hand. You just keep repeating "it's not explicitly stated, therefore it's unreasonable to suggest that it might have happened". The repeated "lol, nah".

Cool story bro.
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>>121705268
So... it's not an autopilot then, if she can't do shit because she's unconscious?

The whole mechanic here is flawed. The game treats the issue as if she didn't really exist between leaving the focus and the moment she entered it in the present, and the "past universes" she entered were created and dropped like it's no big deal, only the outcome in the "original" present mattered.
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>>121705143
>Why would Max lose her powers if she let Chloe die? That makes no sense.
The suggestion is that whatever it is that Max does that "fixes" everything (ie. removes the storm), also removes her powers. A return to the status quo, I guess.
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2 LIFE 2 STRANGE

http://www.pcgamer.com/life-is-strange-2-confirmed-by-dontnod/
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>>121705616
>So... it's not an autopilot then, if she can't do shit because she's unconscious?
Max leaves the focus, blacks out, autopilot kicks in, continues to live her life until the time reaches the present moment, Max wakes up, autopilot turns off.
What is so confusing for you?
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>>121705675
No, dontnod didn't confirm shit. Fucking clickbait bullshit.
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>>121705370
DONTNODS SCHEME WORKED PERFECTLY

PEOPLE WERE DUPED BY THE FUCKING BASTARD SHITCUNT TACTICS

THEY FEEL MUH FEELS AND ARE BLINDED BY THE BULLSHIT RED/BLUE FALSE CATCH 22 GARBAGE THAT IS ON THE LEVEL OF WHATEVER FLAVOUR OF THE MONTH YA NOVEL IS OUT NOW, OR PERHAPS EVEN WORSE AS IT ISNT EVEN CONSISTENT WITH ANY SORT OF LOGIC
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>>121705439
It's just not worth even arguing this point anymore. You're just refusing to enter the actual discussion at hand. You just keep repeating "it works in my headcanon, therefore it's reasonable to disregard actual facts". The repeated "lol, nah".

Cool story bro.
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>>121652417
it took me almost a week to get over it...

i still think about the game a good amount though
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>>121705616
The other anon is incorrect, she's not unconscious. The autopilot Max's seemingly do everything our Max would normally do, they're just not controlled by the consciousness of the "player's" Max. It's autopilot because they seemingly carry on as Max would have otherwise done. They're still conscious, they're aware of their powers, etc, they're just not inhabited by the "player's Max's" consciousness. If that makes sense. :^) But they are, for all intents and purposes, the same person.
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>>121705750
Bless you caps anon/
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>>121705750
caps anon, you're a funny person and i'm grateful that you express my honest sentiments so accurately
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>>121705869
>therefore it's reasonable to disregard actual facts
And yet, I've never actually done this. So, uhh, GG?
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>>121705739
The fucking wording is idiotic, that's what's confusing me, nigga.
It's not a fucking autopilot, god fucking damn it.
She simply continues to live her life as if the decision Max altered was her own (which makes no sense in the fucking finale, but I'm not going to get into that). It's as if Max removes the "self" of the other Max at the moment of her return to the present time, but her original self doesn't do shit then. It bypasess the regular flow of time. It's some star trek shit, nigga.
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>>121705370
>pic
bad taste
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>>121705996
>GG

Fuck off.
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>>121705996
You disregard the fact the story never supports any of your headcanons and they are nothing more than silly mental gymnastics to make the illogical plot work.
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>>121706046
episode 5 is played in chloe head she is still dead and max too
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>>121706046
>Chloe actually has a full titanium plating on her skull from all her skateboarding accidents
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>>121705930
>>121705879
IM GOING TO STREAM THE WHOLE OF LIS AT SOME POINT AND YELL INTO MY MIC AT APPROPRIATE MOMENTS

IT WILL BE THE DEFINITIVE /LISG/ PLAYTHROUGH

GET HYPE
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Someone ported both max and chloe to left4dead2 but they can't be played together since the only take the place of Rochelle and Zoey

I'd fucking love to be able to play with the entire crew (max, chloe, kate, vic)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=469087223
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>>121706316
And we've gone full circle again. No actual arguments against anything I've suggested, just a "lol nah" type comment to brush it off.

GG. Wish I could say this has been fun.
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>>121706528
Do it! Will watch!
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>>121704776
>But I think it's unfair to ignore an otherwise reasonable explanation while still arguing that something makes no sense.
It still doesn't make sense. How does Chloe's survival create a series of unnatural weather patterns? That's not what Chaos Theory is. Chaos Theory in regards to time travel assumes that seemingly random unforeseen consequences will come about as a result of a change to the timeline. However these consequences do follow a logical chain.

For instance let's say a person travels back to Germany in the 1870s and were to interfere with the lives of Hermann Einstein or Pauline Koch. This could result in their marriage taking place at a different point in time or even prevent them from getting together at all. If their marriage was altered it's quite possible that intercourse between the two could take place at different points than in the original timeline. With the sheer number of sperm in the male body the odds of Albert Einstein being conceived in this new timeline are quite low. As a result one of the most influential figures of the 20th Century is erased from existence and God only knows what other changes come about as a result of that.

Chloe's survival on the other hand has no logical connection with the storm whatsoever. A single teenage girl from Oregon with absolutely no abnormal abilities can't cause snow, eclipses and tornados to spontaneously appear out of nothing merely by living. If Chloe were somehow the cause of that then why wasn't Arcadia Bay wiped off the map years ago? The whole "butterfly flapping it's wings = tornado" thing is a metaphor. It doesn't literally mean that a change to the timeline is going to completely warp reality to cause impossible events (two moons). If that were the case why should it have a time limit of five days? Why wouldn't more disasters follow the Friday tornado?
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>We save William
>Not tornado

>We save Kate
>No tornado

>But Kate was supposed to live!

>In that case

>we don't save Kate
>No second tornado

>Chloe gets killed in the Junkyard
>the tornado doesn't stop

>At least 6 people die in the Sacrifice AB ending
>apparently it warrants 6 new tornadoes??
>But devs say Max and Chloe now have a clean slate

Ok
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>>121706467
That would have been an absolutely retarded, yet awesome, twist.
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>>121706529
Is there any reason why they need to be ported to a female characters? Are the voice overs unchanged? Presumably someone could try to rip various bits and pieces of audio from from the game to make some attempt at addressing this, if it is the issue?

On the other hand, I'd still be willing to play Kate-with-Coach's-voice. :3
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>>121706695
>>121706467
>>121706046
We'd still get stuck with the retarded ending though.
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>>121706547
Of course I won't argue whatever happens in your imagination land.
I don't give a shit about that.
I only care about what happens in the actual story.
Which you can't explain with the tools given.
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>>121706528
PLEASE DO IT!
>Just like Nobunaga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3dygegRhVQ&list=PL58293607DF621285&index=1
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>>121706529
you can play with both but youd have to live with one of them having a male voice
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>>121706529
Now someone replace zombies with Jefferson.
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>>121706695
I'd give anything for a scene where Chloe saves Max from Jefferson.
And by "anything" I mean $15 for a DLC.

>>121706783
A retarded ending with a full titanium plating, you mean?
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Honestly doesn't really bother me if Bay ending is logically impossible. Just means Bae is canon :^) What's there to complain about?
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>>121706741
>a petite christian girl walks over to you in the safe room
>she reaches for a medkit
>"GRABBIN A MEDKIT"
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>>121706805
Better video with our imagination song. :) lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7jnLKDKpHc&list=PL58293607DF621285&index=8
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>>121706741
Just get a VA to record the voices anew. It's not like the voice of Chloe is there.
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>>121706908
>What's there to complain about?
Unresolved plotlines, idiotic twists, complete mental retardation of the main cast, obviously underdeveloped ending, etc.
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>>121706908
Hard to feel that way when everyone and their mother out there is treating Bay as the canon and right ending because MUH FEELS create the illusion of good writing
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>>121706908
time travel into the past itself is logically impossible. just means "it was all just a dream" is canon :^)
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>>121706741
just seems to be the preference cus hearing female characters yell out in gruffly manliness would be kind of weird. That said Kate yelling out in coaches voice would be fucking hilarious
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>>121706903
So would I. As much as I liked David's redemption scene, I would have loved to see Chloe rescue Max for once.
Or hell, even Frank finding Chloe in the junkyard, and Rachel's body, and then the both of them stopping buy to pay Jefferson a visit.
Plus there's potential for Max to drop a cheesy like learning how Chloe survived and saying "I always knew you had a thick skull"
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>>121706046
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>>121707329
Who holds the phone like that?
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>>121707386
Jefferson
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>>121706908
The fact that the bae ending is still an irredeemable piece of shit no matter how much baefags try to insist it's the lesser of two evils.
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HEY CAPS ANON

GET OVER HERE

THESE FAGGOTS ARE IN NEED OF SOME RIGHTEOUS FURY AGAIN
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>>121706908
EVERYTHING

FUCKING NO

WHY DID CHLOE SPECIFICALLY HAVE TO DIE IN THAT SPECIFIC WAY ON THAT SPECIFIC DAY TO STOP THE STORM

IF THIS CAUSED A PARADOX WHY DID LIFE CONTINUE AS NORMAL FOR FIVE FUCKING DAYS LIKE EVERYTHING WAS JUST CHILL YO WOW HELLA IMAGINATION JOURNEY :^))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^))))))))))))))))

WHY DOES FUCKING WITH TIME CAUSE GEOBIOLOGICAL EFFECTS AND FREAK STORMS RATHER THAN JUST A SHORT CIRCUIT AND THERE GOES THE UNIVERSE, POMF

HOW

THE

FUCK

DOES SAVING ONE PERSON = DEAD WHALES
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>>121707435
Who holds the bat like that? The position provides no swing.
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>>121707558
>implying chloe wouldnt hit herself with that bat anyway
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>interested in game
>didn't want to pay for a lesbian Twilight novel

Thank god for pirating!
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>>121707540
Thank you Caps anon. You're doing God's work.
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>>121707540
Because.
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>>121707043
wow... I bet he lost his voice after that playthrough
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>>121707558
She'd a take a swing, probably do nothing.
Max would rewind and then tell her to take a step back so she could get a proper swing.
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>>121707540
>>121707538
AND IF SO WHY THE FUCK DOES SAVING KATE NOT AFFECT ANYTHING

IF SO WHY THE FUCK DOES SAVING WILLIAM NOT AFFECT ANYTHING

WHY THE FUCK DID MAX EVEN GET POWERS

WHY IN CHRISTS SWEET NAME DID EVERYTHING THAT WE DID IN THE ENTIRE GAME LEAD UP TO ONE CHOICE THAT IS A MASSIVE FUCK YOU TO ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY CARED OR PAID ATTENTION

FUCKING

SHIT
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>>121706649
>How does Chloe's survival create a series of unnatural weather patterns?
Because.

I mean, Chaos Theory is almost never appropriately applied in fiction. Heck, it was made famous due to Jurassic Park, despite being applied in absolutely laughable ways in that novel/movie. So arguing "supernatural event X doesn't make use of watered-down-for-the-general-public-analogy-of-scientific-concept correctly" is a bit of a damp squid (heh) from the start.

While they're using the most obvious visuals (a butterfly and a storm), I'm not sure they're actually implying that the storm was caused by some altered air currents in the bathroom building up over several days to cause a storm. I think the idea is just "small changes can have big consequences". The same sort of thing was demonstrated more-or-less with the alternate timeline - saving William causes Chloe to become disabled. At least this one makes a bit more sense and doesn't require "because supernatural reasons".

I agree it's not terribly satisfying, but the answer seems to be inherently "it's just supernatural". It's THE plot contrivance, I guess. I think the whole "Chaos Theory" thing is supposed to be less about the actual physical concept, and more about "small changes can lead to larger, unexpected/unpredictable consequences". Still a somewhat-reasonable-if-you-squint interpretation, maybe?

>Chloe's survival on the other hand has no logical connection with the storm whatsoever.
As discussed elsewhere in the thread (though it's not totally clear), the idea is less that CHLOE is important, and more that Max's meddling with the timelines is what's important. It's a plot contrivance that this change was about saving Chloe, but it doesn't seem as though Chloe herself is the important detail.
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What would Chloe's and Max's daughter's name be? Rachel?
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>>121707208
At this point, I'm just disappointed that Coach-Kate isn't already a thing.
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>>121707912
caps anon can i ask you what your favorite game is

how long have you followed LiS? from the beginning?
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>>121707963
the william timeline is their example of the butterfly effect.
the magic tornado is just the universe getting corrupted by time alteration. its just silly they wanted to stick to the butterfly - storm picture because its so iconic.
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>>121707812
THIS UGLY SON OF A BITCH IS TRICKING 90% OF HIS ENTIRE FUCKING FANBASE WITH THIS ONE STUPID TRICK

CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT HOW
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>>121708035
homosexuals cant get children
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>>121708253
Imma stealing this and putting this on a second shop.
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>>121707963
At latest when we talk about solar eclispses and double moons is when those concepts either lose their scientific footing completely or just aren't meant to apply to begin with. Not arguiing against any of what you said, I'm just saying chaos theory/butterfly effect don't really make much sense however you put it, neither does anything else dealing with a scientifically or even just logical-within-itself model for the time fuckery.

This is - apart from it bringing back a lot of the game's themes that otherwise lead to nowhere - why I like to jump to the magical stuff, primarily the Rachel theory. Then Chloe is important, but only circumstantially.
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>>121708296
Bullshit, anyone can buy one.
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>>121707117
The dev charity stream going with bae was awesome though.
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>>121708296
donor insemination
co-parenting
adoption
surrogacy
rekt
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>>121708748
I was there but the chat was utter cancer with the spam so I must've missed this comment, sweet. It was pretty great desu, both leaving Warren and going bae.
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Honestly the William survives timeline is retarded.
He is allowed to live for 5 years with absolutely no consequences and would live indefinitely after that and the only reason the tornado is still coming is because his daughter isn't dying on the school bathroom's floor on October 7th, 2013

This implies Max can do whatever the fuck she wants, alter as many fates as she wants as long as Chloe dies or the Tornado does its thing.
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>>121708035
No tornado AU: Rachel
Bae ending: Joyce
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>>121708796
>be their sperm donor and have pricefield raise my kid
is this the ultimate kuck fetish?
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>>121707274
>"I always knew you had a thick skull"
Terminator Chloe literally when.
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>>121708936
Exactly. There's no escalation caused by any other time travel shenanigans. The weather patterns are exactly the same after the bathroom incident. They never go past the five day time limit and they can all be predicted with perfect accuracy. There's really no excuse for Max to not go photo hopping to create the best timeline where Jefferson gets arrested early and most Arcadia Bay residents get to safety. Hell, she could go balls out and try to save Rachel with some very tricky use of emails or social media. She could even make it so that she contacted Chloe during the five years and her autopilot self might stay in contact. Pretty much nothing she does can create bigger consequences by this point.
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>>121709249
You know. I could forgive dontnod if this was the basis for a second season.
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Ouch, that sounds awful the way you say it
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>>121708035
I like Rachel. Or William if it was a boy.

>>121708296
Chloe would want to adopt. She knows how losing a parent can suck, and she would want to help someone else avoid the pain of feeling like they're unloved/ alone.
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>>121708253
>>121708304
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>>121709374 meant for >>121709161
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>>121709487
Beautiful.
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>>121708135
FOR MORE MODERN TITLES I WAS A BIG FAN OF FALLOUT NEW VEGAS THOUGH NOT 3 SO MUCH

I ALSO LIKED BOTH DEMONS AND DARK SOULS THOUGH I THOUGHT THEY WERE FLAWED

FOR OLDER STUFF, FALLOUT 2, MARATHON SERIES, SYSTEM SHOCK 2, SILENT HILL 1-3, AND OCARINA/MM ZELDA

AND IN GENERAL ANYTHING THAT ISNT LIFE IS STRANGE EPISODE 5, SPECIFICALLY THE LAST 30 MINUTES

MY ALL TIME FAVOURITE IS ETERNAL DARKNESS FOR THE GAMECUBE

SHOUTOUT TO THE SNES LION KING THAT SHIT WAS GREAT

>>121709487
I M A G I N E
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>>121709769
>Eternal Darkness

Good taste caps anon.
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>>121709769
i hope fallout 4 can distract you from Life Is Strange Episode 5, caps anon!
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>>121709769
>MY ALL TIME FAVOURITE IS ETERNAL DARKNESS FOR THE GAMECUBE
If I recall correctly that had a secret golden ending that required the player to complete the game three times against different Eldritch deities. The idea was that those were 3 different timelines. Now doesn't that sound like a neat idea Dontnod?
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>>121710059
It's not like this is a very obscure concept, either. I see it now and then in different Japanese games, especially VNs.

And I though I had moved on to acceptance. Fuck.
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>>121710059
GUESS WHAT THAT WAS WHEN DEVS LOVED THE IDEA THAT FANS WANTED TO PLAY THEIR GAMES MORE AND SO THEY HID A SECRET FOR THEM

NOW WE GET LE EPIC RED BLUE DICHOTOMY

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

A GAME FROM 2002 ON THE GAMECUBE HAS 2 MORE ENDINGS THAN LIFE IS STRANGE AND ITS NOT EVEN A CHOICE BASED ADVENTURE GAME
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>>121702536
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>>121702536
>>
>You will never live in a comfy suburban town next to a coast and comfy hills and forests
>You will never be young again
>You will never experience sweet adolescence love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3anL2iEZ1E
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So what am I supposed to play after this?

Is Remember Me any good? It looks like a dumbed down Prince of Persia.
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>>121710778
>mfw I did experience all that
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>>121710778
stop, please. it hurts too much.
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>>121710903
>So what am I supposed to play after this?
Nothing, just curl up in your bed and cry while listening to the ost thinking how you will never be comfy.
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>>121710905
If you are telling the truth, fucking treasure it mate, you had something millions dream of, something nothing can buy.
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>>121710903
Play Undertale. It's comfy and has a satisfying ending.
Also, cute waifus.
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>>121710903
Nothing. Go out and start making connections with people, listening to music, reading, living life.
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>>121711169
>>121711169
This. My anger/disappointment over LiS grows just as my fondness for Undertale does, even after finishing it several days ago.

And yet LiS is the one I consider my favorite in spite of it's shitty as hell end.
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Why? ;_;
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>>121711384
Why did Jefferson let kate live
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>>121711384
I don't see anything wrong.
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>>121711473
I think he planned to let most of his subjects live just Nathan kinda ruined that with Racheal, then Max and Chloe started snooping.
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>>121711473
cause it was a shitty photoshoot
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>>121711190
I already do that anonette but I love playing games too.

>>121711064
I need out of this post-game depression. I've been thinking of LiS too much.

>>121711169
It's not my kind of game anon, sorry.
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>>121711658
Well, what is your kind of game?
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>>121711473
Because she didn't wake up and Jefferson didn't think she would ever figure out what happened. Rachel on the other hand, did. She probably got a low dose, became awake and angry, so Jefferson and Nathan had no other option than to kill her. Then again, Jefferson may have also planned to kill Rachel from the start if he felt that she and Nathan were getting too close.

>>121711485
His legs are so smooth~
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>>121711658
>It's not my kind of game anon, sorry.
Have you given it a shot already? It's seriously so charming. Relentlessly so.
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>>121711754
Nathan killed Rachel with an overdose, Jefferson just took care it it afterwards.
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>>121711169
This.
And if you don't mind Japanese stuff play the 8 arcs of Higurashi after that. The ending is also satisfying and all the plot points introduced tie up in the end and nothing really is left unresolved.
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>>121711837
I don't think it was just Nathan. It may have been Nathan who fucked up the dosage, or maybe Frank sold him something watered down, but I think it was Jefferson still behind everything.
Who do you think took the pictures of Nathan and Rachel in the junkyard? Nathan didn't have any type of trigger for the camera in his hand. Jefferson probably drugged Nathan afterwards, so he woke up confused and discovered Rachel was dead. And then Jefferson told him it was his fault to make sure he would always listen to him.
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>>121711725
Something with an original concept and beautiful aesthetics. My fav games are Dark Souls, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines and the Prince of Persia and Mass Effect trilogies.

I love strategy games too but I am not in the mood for those rn.

>>121711769
Well the reason I am not giving it a shot is because I am not a fan of the aesthetics. I don't really like the art style but maybe it's because I grew up with 3d games.

Or maybe I am just a vapid bitch, I don't know.
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>>121712251
I get you. I really, really recommend you to try it, though. It's cheap and it is so fucking rewarding and wonderful. It's charming in just about every way; I think that as someone who's hesitant because you grew up with 3d games, you might not mind it after a bit. You get used to it very quickly. Hope you give it a shot.
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>>121710903
i liked remember me, it's another kind of messy deeply flawed but very rewarding game in it's own right and worth a shot if you can get it on a deep sale

the memory puzzles are great, and my biggest complaint is there aren't more of them
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>>121712251
>Something with an original concept and beautiful aesthetics.
Have you tried MMORPG? EVE seems to fit your criteria.

Other than that... Well, The Stanley Parable has an original concept. And it's pretty funny. It's 3D, but I wouldn't call its aesthetics "beautiful". MGS 1, 2 and 3 are great, especially the third one. Again, the graphics aren't exactly "beautiful", it's PS/PS2 games, after all.
Borderlands 2 is fairly enjoyable in co-op.

BioShock is hella interesting, despite the grim horror-esque atmosphere.

Also, if you don't mind point-and-click adventures, try Deponia. Though it's 2D. And its finale isn't exactly... satisfying. Not like LiS, but still.
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>>121712251
>Mass Effect trilogies.
Have you tried Dragon Age series?
Its literally the fantasy version of Mass Effect.
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>>121713184
>BioShock
Played those. They were enjoyable but not that great. Especially the third was really flawed.

>Eve
Looks great but it runs on a subscription and is a huge time investment. Wish I had what it takes to try it out.

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check the other two out.

>>121712964
Hmm, I've been watching a playthrough and the gameplay doesn't look very satisfying. Like there's no challenge to it. If I try it I might just do it only for the story.

>>121712445
I'll look into it.

>>121713721
I did. I played until DA2 where I felt really disappointed. The plot in Mass Effect is a lot better and it left me with a good impression even if the endings were lackluster. I mean liked the games overall but I am kind of afraid to try DA:I. For some reason I have a hunch it's gonna be a disappointment.
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>>121714127
DA:I is a huge step from the past two DA games. Really brought the strengths for both games into one, big game. Has its flaws, but has very compelling characters and the lore is extremely extensive, if that's your thing.
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>>121714127
that's what i did and I mostly enjoyed my time.

Not a great game but worth a playthrough cus it's unique enough on it's own (cyberpunk paris setting is cool, memory puzzles, and brown buttcheeks)
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>>121714358
Yeah I love to read journal entries and invest into the characters and the world. It's the most important aspect of a game for me besides gameplay. The way you describe it makes it sound good, I was hoping the third installment would combine the positive features of the previous games.

I'll take your word for it and give it a shot.
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>>121714358
>>121714127
seconded, give DA:I a shot, there's a free trial available for the PC version too. It's flawed but really lovable, with some nice cinematic moments and a great bunch of companions. You need the Trespasser DLC to properly finish it off, but it's worth it imo.
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>>121714127
>Wish I had what it takes to try it out.
It has a trial mode.

If you're into space aesthetics, look into Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen (not yet released) and Warframe (F2P mindless grind with pay-to-skip-this-fucking-grinding-jesus-christ-i-can't-take-it-anymore donate).

>For some reason I have a hunch it's gonna be a disappointment.
If you're not a completionist and have the will power to skip side quests in the first locations, you probably won't be too disappointed.
The final fight is a bit anti-climactic, since they went the "play after the finale" route, which, obviously, didn't allow any mass destruction. I think my main problem with the game is that it lacks cities. You have several big cities with NPCs in DAO, DA2 itself is one big city, ME has Citadel, etc. Basically, all these games have a place where you can interact with an outside world. In DA:I, you're limited to your HQ. Locations are big, but there isn't a lot of stuff going on, so they seem mostly empty with occasional respawning enemy patrols.
I would say that interactions between you, the player, and your comrades are fucking great, though.
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>>121714474
Nilin has a fantastic ass and it was nice to stare at it for several hours

that's probably the best thing about remember me iah
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>>121714127
>Played those. They were enjoyable but not that great.
Dont talk shit about my game of all time like that senpai.
The original Bioshock 1 is still my GOAT to this day, fucking number 1.
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>>121715109
Let's not turn this into a fight, shall we?
Have a K8.
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>>121714701
I've played both ME and DA and consider Mass Effect 3 to be one of my top favorite games ever, but I haven't personally come across a series with a lore as extensive as DA, and that's especially amplified with DA:I. I've spent hours upon hours reading journal entries, researching actual literature from the game, reading the books made by the writers, reading up on theories and analyses, etc. It's a great series in the sense that it doesn't stop when you turn off the console. Like >>121714713 says, the main game + Trespasser DLC is an overall treat with some decisions that you definitely have to think through before making. It's a universe that feels very alive.

So yeah, my personal recommendations are Undertale and DA:I! Let us know if you check out either one.
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>>121715187
alright :3
I fucking love Bioshock
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>>121714719
>>121714713
>>121715206
You've convinced me anons. I'll give it a go and report back here.
Thanks for explaining elaborately why I should try it, I'm not surprised this general has good taste in vidya.
>>121715109
Yeah I enjoyed the first one the most to be honest. It had a great atmosphere and a good story.
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>>121716207
I still always wanted Chloe to grab that bottle for her when she couldn't reach it.
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>>121715832
Also, if you haven't done it yet, try looking into the Witcher series.
The combat isn't great, especially in the first game, but the atmosphere is quite pleasant. Slavic mythology isn't a common theme in most games, so it gives the game a kind of a unique vibe.
The graphics of the first game are horribly dated, though, so beware. You might prefer to start with the second or even the third part if you haven't played it before.
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>>121716743
I wanted Chloe to let Max sit on her shoulders to reach something at some point of the game. Would've been hella cute.
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>>121716796
I watched the enitre playthroughs on youtube. When it comes to the Witcher series I admit I'd rather watch it than play it.
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>>121716964
>I deer u to kiss me
Awwwww.
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>>121702867
>I dunno, what IS the better stance here? - That they had to cut around and kind of ruined what seemed to be a great story or that they just failed to tell that story properly?

I think it's a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B.
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AU band dlc when ?
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>>121719830
But who plays what anon?
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>>121719830
LiS band management/rhythm game when?
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How would you feel if Life is Strange season 2 took the American Horror Story approach and created a "new" cast by remixing the old one. Basically keeping the characters around as virtual actors in a whole new setting.
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>>121720050
That would be sort of cool actually.
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Please reply with some cute pricefield and/or maximum victory fics so I have something to read tomorrow in the train
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I don't give a fuck about season 2 until DONTNOD fixes season 1. Extend the bae ending to be equal to the other and I'll be somewhat satisfied. If not? I'm getting a gaming PC soon and if I feel like trying season 2 I'll pirate. They don't deserve my money since they can't fucking manage a budget.
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>>121720709
Tbh, I kind of feel this. It's too soon to be talking about a s2 when there's no word about a DLC for s1. Consider making the end of s1 more satisfying before talking about an entirely new season.

>>121720648
I gotchu senpai. Pricefield ahead:

http://archiveofourown.org/works/4809902
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4030180
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4176228
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5096726
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5060218
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5041915
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5038093
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4916323
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4846457
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4828391
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4821998
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4736099
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4650873
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4642455
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4611870
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4530945
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4456538

...Some of my favorites.
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>>121708429
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>>121721412
God bless you.
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>>121719986
Kate would totally let some rage out on drums
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>>121721237
>>121709487
These are fucking great!
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>>121721479
No problem. Happy to help!
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>>121721628
I always thought she would be vocals, with Chloe on drums but damn that's a good thought.
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>>121721628
I want to see this.
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>>121721412
I don't think my train ride is going to be long enough for all this. Thanks anon!
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>>121721773
>Chloe on triangle

kek.
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>>121721930
I figured. There might be a few that might not be your cup of tea for whatever reason, so I made sure to post a lot in case that happens so that you have more options - as well as for any future train rides, or if you want to read them when you get home/any other occasion! No problem, anon!
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>>121721412
Making the end of s1 more satisfying means Dontnod have to admit that it wasn't satisfying and there is something that needs to be fixed. They don't want to accept that. They believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with the endings and they're sticking to that.
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>>121722443
Yeah, you right, you right. As if the situation wasn't bad enough.
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>>121722443
They may not really believe that, but they obviously can't go around saying their product is unfinished. Really doubt the publisher would appreciate that.

Seems to me like underwhelming endings have just become a standard procedure in video games. And it's probably not surprising. Why would the publishers want to give them budget for putting a lot of time into something that almost 90% of players will never see anyways.

For all we know Dontnod might be happy if complaints were loud enough that the publisher felt compelled to let them flesh out their endings more. But they're just obviously not going to say that if they ever want publishers to work with them in the future.
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>>121722984
Well then, we just need to get Michel's personal opinion. Anyone's mother works at dontnod?
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NEW THREAD WHEN
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>>121723141
YESTERDAY
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>>121723141
We're at neither the post bump limit, or the image bump limit. Only 7 images to go though, so get posting!
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>>121722984
Hmm, well that is true. And they're still a relatively small, indie company. They're lucky that SE decided to take the chance on them.
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>>121723512
Who is this carrot head with Chloe?
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Kate a qt
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>>121723619
its max
tumblr ruin everything
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>>121722443
>Making the end of s1 more satisfying means Dontnod have to admit that it wasn't satisfying and there is something that needs to be fixed

And that is exactly why we should have asked for "Additional content" instead of saying "Rewrite the existing endings"
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This pic always slays me.
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what happening with the petition now anyway?
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>>121651162
The Microphones - The Glow Pt.2 and Mount Eerie
Kaki King - Dreaming of Revenge
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>>121723993
ded
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>>121723993
Petition anon uploaded a few more videos, and I think he's sent it to DONTNOD in a physical package now,
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>>121724167
>physical package
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>>121724167
Fucking pointless.
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Image limit.

Someone make new.
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>>121724663
Eat shit mate, I'm busy.
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>>121724663
No, now we talk.
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>>121724751
Whatcha thinkin about?
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>>121724882
Whether to make a sandwich or cereal for my supper. Also, debating starting reading a book.
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>>121724751
No more words, only tears.
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Somebody write a better ending so I can read it and pretend that's canon instead.
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>>121724751
What are you wearing, anon?
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>>121724751

So how's your day been?
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>>121723512
self insert whovian crap REEEEEEEE
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>>121725181
For you, nothing.
>>121725194
I bought a new hat with a pompom. I consider it a success.
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>>121722984
>Why would the publishers want to give them budget for putting a lot of time into something that almost 90% of players will never see anyways.

Usually that's true, the vast majority of people who buy games never finish them. But for episodic content it's different because you buy the product one episode at a time and it's always a fairly short time investment to play through it. The people who buy the last episode of a game like this are all invested in the story and hardly anyone who bought it would quit before the ending.
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Cant post cute girls
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>121725607
NEW THREAD FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!! MAKE IT!!
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>>121725117

>http://archiveofourown.org/works/5038093
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/5050291

:3
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>>121725829
YOuuuu fucker, I was posting Kate.
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>>121725301
The LIS devs are Dr Who fans, and made sure to insert at least one reference in every episode. So you're in the wrong place if Dr Who references annoy you. c:
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Image limit reached.
Please treat this post as if there's an attached image of Max and Chloe sitting in the bed of Chloe's truck, cuddling under a blanket, and gazing at the stars.
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>>121725912
Post Kate in new thread :3 Whenever it appears.
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>>121725937
799 or 800 pixels in height?
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>>121725937
pls, my imagination:)® is depleted after the episode 5
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>>121726127
Yes.
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>>121725829
>image after limit
HOW
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new thread
>>121726406
>>121726406
>>121726406
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>>121725829
Thanks
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>>121656112
>>121655306
>wanting niggers and mexishits in the game
No.
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>>121720050
Didn't the devs cite American Horror Story as the format they would like to take with their seasons?

I personally wouldn't like that.
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