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Having a laugh edition

Last thread: >>121540293

>109 Patch
Adds new content, breaks old content, buffs and nerfs items.
Patch notes never

Azazel nerf is BUGGED, supposedly. 9mb patch MAY have fixed this.

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that HUD that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.

>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: FHRD S1N1 (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)

2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)

3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.

4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
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First for baby factories.
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>>121595952
this bug was already in rebirth, but will never be fixed because it's cheating and you're a cheating faggot and kill yourself cheater
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>>121596120
Fuck you m8, I wanted to be first
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>>121596173
Lilith is an impregnation station
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Why is this arousing?
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do you think edmund will remove the d20 from greed mode?
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>>121596478

Because you are pathetic and lonely.
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>>121596654
>edmund
>fixing things
lamo
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>>121596697
It's only because I'm chewing the steak of life very slowly, I swear.
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>>121596173
does this actually happen, or is it just a mock-up?
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>>121597357

Yes, it happens when Lilith takes damage after unlocking Cambion Conception
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>>121597357
It's in-game sprites I cleaned up and edited myself, I took screenshots while playing with a Demon Judgement in Greed Mode as a test
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>>121597532

>demon judgement

Go away NL
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>>121597532
Cool; shame like many of the visible changes you'll likely have them overwritten after 2-3 pickups.
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Why the hell did I start with these
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>>121597757
can you please name which bosses correspond to those symbols? I know heart is mom's heart, upside down cross is Satan, what are the others?
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>>121597757
You got memed kiddo.
>1 tear rate
>4 range
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>>121597863
Holy shit read the OP you moron
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>>121597976
oh sorry

yeah I never read the long OPs
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Which one?
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How do I git gud with the blue baby?
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First for sexualizing little horn
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>>121598103
______________git___________________________gud_______________________________
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>>121598056

Exit Game
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>>121597943
But why do I have dunce cap and Capricorn?
And why did Capricorn only increase my range?
I am so confused
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>>121597863
Mom's Heart, Isaac, Boss Rush
Satan, Blue Baby/???, The Lamb
Mega Satan, Ultra Greed, The Hush

In order of left to right, including the missing symbols.
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>>121598103
get luck
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Woah im a fucking retard, i mean this one.
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>>121598276
Left
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Should I pick up Greed Head? About to take on Isaac. And yes I carried this Jera since Catacombs II.
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>>121598103

If you would get hit by something, instead don't get hit.

You are now 100% better are BB, and Isaac in general. You are welcome.
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>>121598276
Left will always be the correct choice
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>people still haven't updated the OP

>>121597407
Use this seed: J2LP E87W.
There's two Mullibooms in the room south of spawn.
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>>121598312
>>121598351
>this is what leftfags ACTUALLY believe
Make the Right Choice(tm) anon.
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>>121598276
>inb4 you had Chaos and forget
>inb4 you get Breakfast for 1 heart
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>>121598325
WHOOPS WRONG PIC
This is the right one.

So do I get Greed Head or will that fuck up my setup? Once I got explosivo basement 1, I gave up D4 for blue candle
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>>121598325

So what do the icons on that mod even mean?

Top is obviously movement speed, but for example I can't tell if it's the bow and arrow or red sword that's damage.
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>>121598312
>>121598351

Well fucking memed
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epic...simply epic
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>>121598556
>Movespeed
>Range
>Tears
>Shot Speed
>Shot Height
>Damage
>Luck
>Devil Room / Angel Room chance
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Constructive criticism pls
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>>121598632

At least one of them is stuck across that chasm
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>>121598659
Consider suicide.

>>121598607
You're one step closer to the god tier transformation.
Be thankful.
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>>121598649

Thanks dude

>>121598659

Gross
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>>121598529
SO DO I TAKE THE FUCKING GREED HEAD?
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>>121598659
it's okay i guess/10
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>>121598836
yes you dumb fuck
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>>121598659
stop
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What's the key to success for these shitty challenges?
I'm getting butt bothered by Waka Waka
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>>121599058
Just get Brim for Waka.
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>>121598802
>>121598809
>>121598958
I expected this. There's no stopping me though.
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>>121598659
Go away man
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I did it. It's time to Jera the 4 gold chests, then DESTROY EVERYTHING.
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>>121599058

Just be Nothern Lion. Dude gets STUPID lucky in challenges. Fucker found the shovel on XXXXXXXXXXXXL and basically negated the point of the run.
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>>121599285
Keep going
The hair could look better. More round
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>>121599285
Please adopt a trip so i can follow your work.

Just kidding im just going to filter you so i can avoid your degenerate autism trying to infect other games with your undertale faggotry
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>>121597439
>a cambion is the offspring of an "incubus or succubus" and a human
Holy shit
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>>121598659
Is there a way to make isaac's eyes more "--_--" like?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS
DAD'S KEY

TIME TO MEGA STAN AFTER I TAKE OUT BLUE BABY.
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>>121599526
>the lost
I hope you get a double Bloat room, faggot
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>>121599432
I'm not very good at sprites, but I'll work on the hair.

>>121599497
Yup, I plan on working on that too.
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>increase Lilith's luck
>get leech through Cambion Conception
>??????
>infinite health

don't let eggmould see this
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>>121599729
Looks pretty good if I do say myself, but yeah hair needs some work. How far are you planning to go with this?
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>>121599832

SHUSH
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>>121599903
I'm not sure. There's a lot to be done and I'm a pretty busy person myself. I have most of the sound files replaced, but changing the whole art style is a lot more work.
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Reposting cause new thread

God fucking damn was this daily trash tier or did I miss an OP item somewhere? Literally the only damage up the whole way down was a motherfucking Lump of Coal. Were it not for Infestation 2, I doubt I could have made it past Depths 1. I made a somewhat debatable decision to swap out box of friends for shovel, though, which let me go past the end of the normal daily all the way to Sheol. Almost beat Satan, too. But an Algiz Rune and a Blank Rune that activated as an Algiz rune were not fucking enough. Goddamn, what a slog. First non-Lost daily that I couldn't do Boss Rush on.

Highlights of the run: Card Against Humanity on a 2x2 room after getting golden bombs. Petrified Poop almost immediately. Went from about 5 HP to full 12 and 99 cents.

Reviving like 6 times with Guppy's Collar. I really wish I recorded just how many times this piece of shit saved me on this horrible run. Wish it did this on glass cannon runs instead of this trash.
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any completed save file with everything done?
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>>121600565
You sicken me.
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>>121600565
Slow down senpai desu
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>>121600682
>>121600661
please...
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>>121600751
Why though?
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>>121600751
CHOKE ON UR STEAK AND DIE :'):'):'):')
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>>121600565
Those don't exist
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>find mom's knife on suicide king
Y'know, maybe Edmund isn't so bad.

>>121600565
Why even play the game?
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>>121600237
There's a lot of things in isaac that just don't fit into undertale universe, but I wish you best of luck with your mod.
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>playing Eve
>managed to die because tons of speed ups but was holding Ankh
>went to Cathedral for the first time
>with one Soul Heart left
>mfw 2 fast paid off and I rekt Isaac with gigantic Monstro's Lung tears + Bob's Brain
>mfw D6

No bully, I only got Rebirth during the Halloween sale.

I don't think I've ever had such a rollercoaster of a run before, it was constantly bouncing back and forth between absolute disaster and fucking glorious.
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I am error rooms on basement 1 are sweet!
Am I right guys?
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>>121600886
>>121601047
I want to play casually but can't be arsed to put effort in to unlock all the items from challenges/lost

I have everything but the lost and challenges shit.
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>>121601762
I get super butthurt at this game's bullshit sometimes, but I would never literally cheat this shit in
Just find a different game
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>>121601635

You could always just use the hourglass to go back out. You'll keep your box and you'll be able to finish the floor.
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>>121601949
But I don't care about the achievements on steam.
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>>121601762
______________________________________________________________git gud_____________________________________________________
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>>121602021
Oh, I forgot that I would keep my box of friends.
Thanks, anon!
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>>121595890
>literally hownew.ru at the game
18h in rebirth.

>3 blue hearts is nothing
Don't even care about those.

>red hearts are useless
Why would that be?
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help
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>? card + blank card
>go to error room
>for some reason I lost blank card
Welp, that's how you kill fun Edmund.
I should have used ? card with my pandora box...
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>>121602306
"Do I take an item which I can't use after spending my last heart or do I take a great damage up?"
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>>121602465
It's only Caves 1, meaning I could get guppy, but alright.
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>picked up eden's blessing last run
>start with sacred heart

thanks game
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It says here that you've never ranked in the double digits on a daily challenge. Mind explaining that?
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>>121602586
>everyone talks about how great Eden's Blessing is because it gives them good items on their next run
>next update it only gives MissingNo
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>>121602645
I don't know the perfect daily formula.
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>>121602725
>or Bob's Brain
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>>121599467
That one is likely Immaculate Conception, yes.
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is it just me or does brimstone fucking blow now?
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>>121602645
I did that with Spelunky once.
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>>121603153
I think it's just you, m8
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>>121602306
Take them both you pussy. You just need one HP up before you die to make it worth it.
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>>121602645
I don't play dailies.
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>>121603295
it took like10-12 shots to kill peep
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How am I supposed to play now?
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>>121602645
i was 30 seconds too slow for boss rush
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Can someone who's completed Beans! start it now and tell me if the bean always charged that slowly?

>>121603639
Here's your reply so you'll stop posting this.
Last thread gave you no responses for a reason.
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>>121603580
You must be playing Azazel.
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dunce cap on lilith Y/N?
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>>121603963
never
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>>121603963
Yes.
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>>121603963

I'm pretty sure it doesn't effect Incubus, so why not.
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>>121604386
it does
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>>121603760
yes it always has been 15s

and it's horrible atm
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Fairly interesting seed. JEED 8B3E

You get the radioactive item and the trinket that adds status effect duration right at the start.
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>>121602306
>serpent's kiss

who cares you already won
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>>121604716
lewd
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>>121602645
I pirated the game
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>>121604716
If you lose this run, you're literally the worst Isaac player.
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>>121603639
Don't intentionally break the game?
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Is the key drop rate in womb and sheol massively lower or am I just really fucking unlucky?
Had to leave back 7~8 golden chests now FFS.
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What's the tiniest map you've ever seen?
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>>121605575
i won
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Oh allmighty rng gods please accept this sacrifice in return of manageable hush's continuum shit bullets.
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>Load up FARTSNDS seed to show my 11 year old cousin the game
>End up with great items
Ae achievements disabled in ALL seeds?
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>>121606554
No, that one doesn't disable achievements

http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Seeds
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So did that patch last night fix anything major?
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>finally get a good greed mode run as the lost
>curse of the maze sends me into the curse room
>no way to escape

THANKS EDMUND
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>>121607702
kill yourself and alt+f4? maybe you spawn outside
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>>121601635
I haven't seen an Error room in fucking forever, I never find Telepills anymore
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>>121607682
This is the fucking problem with the lack of patch notes. Why can't they just make Steam posts for us so we don't have to wait until someone reads the fucking update's code.
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>Blue Womb has been unlocked

but.... I've already beaten hush twice already?
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>>121606339
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>>121607753
Not working, I keep spawning in the curse room. I had never used alt+f4 to save myself before, but now I'm okay with doing it in normal runs because this is bullshit
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>>121606517
If he shoots up or down, run to the left or right wall. If he shoots left or right, run to the top or bottom wall. It's easy to find safe spots if you do it like that.
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>>121607994
You like that nicalis coding, anon?
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>>121608210
Got that figured out but still one of the fucking bullets manages to hit me. This is true hell.
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Book of Belial or Book of shadows?
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What are my chances?
UI doesn't show holy mantle tho
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>>121607927
If you find it, the Teleport 2.0 can get you there. It warps you somewhere you haven't been yet on the floor when used.

Priority is, from top to bottom is normal rooms > regular special rooms like shop/cursed/boss/etc. > secret room > super secret room > devil/angel room (even if you didn't qualify for it this floor). If you visited literally everywhere else, you get sent off to I AM ERROR.

>>121609367
Depends; do you want to avoid damage or do you want to kill things faster and have more devil/angel rooms
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>>121609539
I ended up going with the book of shadows since I'm already dishing out near max damage according to the stats.
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>>121609867
there's no such thing as max damage
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>tfw the only character that got any buffs at all was the Lost

Just give him innate Holy Mantle or at least Dead Cat and he might actually be viable.
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>>121609532
Pretty good, Ultra Greed is a chump
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>>121610137
cain got the paper clip though
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>>121610225
I still think that idea in the last few threads of the Greed machine unlocking extra starting items for everyone would be great, but nope I guess that would be too much fun
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>next update
>game crashes if any fun is detected
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>>121609532
>gnawed leaf
Literally just stand still and let ultra greed bump into you a bunch of times. Walk away from the computer and go have a fap or something.
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>>121610074
I am aware of that, which is why I said "according to the stats".
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>>121609367
book of shadows
>easy boss with cube of meat / sacrificial dagger
>free blood donation machine
>free devil beggar
>can let you pick items behind spikes, enter curse room, etc

book of belial
>nice damage up
>better chances to get devil deal / angel room

2 really good items, if your damage is good or you have an orbital, get the book of shadows.
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>>121610505
The other day I started an Eden run with Gnawed Leaf and Gemini, easiest Hush and Mega Satan victories ever
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Does Immaculate Conception:
-count soul hearts?
-count eternal hearts?
-work with The Lost?

>>121610452
Time to start playing Maggie :^)
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>>121610452
Sounds good for me
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Just beat the Hush. Is he supposed to be easy fat fuck? It was more boring than hard, the only time i got hit was when he summoned his minions.
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how does NL feel about the situation with afterbirth
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>>121610452
All devil room items and any time the d6 is used cause the game and all its files to be replaced with a 5 hour movie of Edmund eating 3ozs of steak
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>>121597757
edens blessing?
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>>121611979
>how does NL feel about the situation with afterbirth
Canadian
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>>121611979
Watch his recent Maggy Daily run, he talks about it in there a good bit. He thought the Azzy-zy nerf was sorta stupid because he's been as he is for a year.

He doesn't like the scoring system on dailies, much.
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>>121611658
Immaculate Conception requires you to take damage so it's useless with the Lost.

Unless you have a dead cat and shit loads of luck then it can POSSIBLY spawn a pernament familiar.

now to kill the hush and mega satan

;_;
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>afterbirth took away my boss rush and dark room wins on the lost
guess i ate too quickly
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>>121613176
Wrong, Immaculate is triggered on Picking up hearts, any hearts.
Cambion? requires damage taken.
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>>121613176
You might be thinking of Cambion Conception.
Immaculate Conception is the one that spawns familiars when you heal.

And it's not luck based, you spawn the familiars at set intervals.
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I want to personally impregnate Lilith.
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>>121613364
Reimport your save if you aren't worried about losing Afterbirth progress.
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>every update has more synergies for the brimstone
>no synergies for Technology
EGGMUND YOU LAZY BASTARD STOP DOING SHITTY ARGS AND FIX YOUR SHIT
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Do you think it'd piss Edmund off if people suddenly started making tons of fanart of his super sekrit character before it's officially out
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>>121613628
ive got full post-it on over half of the characters so kind of too late at this point
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>>121613664
Only if they are having fun
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just unlocked the lost, should i bother trying to reroll runs until i get a dark bum in the first treasure room, or work on all the unfinished challenges i have instead? only finished challenge 16 and 19 so far, i feel like the lost should be played with as much shit unlocked as possible due to no goddamn health
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Why did edmund make ultra greed even more of a bore?
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>>121613989
>Only if they are having [/spoiler]
Don't dare to say that!
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>>121614091
Dark Bum won't help you at all. The Lost can't pick up soul hearts.

Speaking of The Lost, I'm actually contemplating suicide right now because of pic related
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>>121614091
>dark bum in the first treasure room

unlock the useful items first
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>>121614282
i cant pick up any health at all? i thought it was just red hearts, this complicates everything.

i'll come back to this ghostly faggot once i've tackled some more challenges i suppose
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>All of the treasure rooms contain active items
>Get to It Lives just because one of them was the shears
There're better ways to say "fuck you" game but i appreciate the effort.
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>>121614425
>i thought it was just red hearts
Do you really think anyone would complain about the meme character if you could get Soul Hearts?
He'd be a slighter harder Blue Baby with flight and spectral, shit would be EZ.
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>>121614425
unlock algiz and jera rune only to max chance of getting them
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>gods flesh
great fucking item edmund
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>The guardian challenge

Holy shit please tell me there's a way to cheese this. The AI is so retarded it just sits in front of enemies and gets fucked
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>>121613620
She's innately pregnant

Smack her around a few times
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>>121615197
Guess what
Reroll until you get book of shadows
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>>121615197
Cheat Engine
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>>121615197
press R until forever
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All fucking right, run #50 here we go. Maybe ill actually make it past floor 4 this time
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>Caves 1
>Eve
>Those items
RNGesus loves me today.
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>>121616335
i havent even seen brimstone in afterbirth
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>>121616335
>"FUN" detected
>Edmund protocol fuck anon engaged
>You're going to die
>>
Any keyboard users experience an issue where the movement keys get stuck in one direction? (character keeps moving left or right) I've checked that all the winblows sticky keys shit is disabled, but it still happens from time to time. Is there something else in windows that I need to disable, or is it a game option?
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>>121615218
It isn't the same.
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>>121616670
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>>121616685
happens to me too. I dont know what causes it .
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>>121616335

how do you get that many items in the first few floors?
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AWWWW
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>>121610210
>he hasn't played since the patch
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>>121616885
brimstone and baby from satan
steve from chest
cracker jacks from boss
pentagram from curse room
nails and fly from item room

can also be other combinations
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>>121616335
inb4 double cage double bloat and all pills are negative
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>>121616335
I just go an IV bag as well, so I can turn any red hearts I get into coins until I get guppy's paw.
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What is the weirdest synergy you've got?
Bonus points for screenshot/webm
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>>121617474
Not weird, but triple shot + Ludovico technique + Cricket's Body
I probably would've lost the run if I hadn't taken Ludo.
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>>121616181
Nope.
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anyone else real frustrated with having to skip every devil deal to get to fucking mega satan. its getting real old passing up easy wins just to get key pieces
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soulhaert or candle?
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>>121617557
Ludo + Parasite is ridiculous, I can't even imagine what it looks like with triple split shot added on
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>>121618185
candle
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I wake up and isaac updated. My friend messaged saying ultra greed was buffed, is that the only thing the patch did? Or was he a retard and didn't notice from the last patch (did he get buffed the last patch?) also what did this patch even do, can I play azazel without wanting to fucking kill myself anymore than usual?
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>>121616685
>>121616863
sounds like ghosting; what kind of keyboards do you two have?
Could also be: USB controller (the driver, not an actual controller), kb/m drivers, the game.
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>>121617474
doctors remote + technology, missile shot lasers in several directions

>>121618453
apparently just ultra greed coin hp buff

azazel still trash tier
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So this just happened.
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>>121618453
also the monstro before ultra greed got replaced with super greeds or something
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>>121617474
I think this is neat.

http://webmshare.com/X59d3
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>>121619383
it's a gift
have FUN
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>>121618775
eh coin buff doesnt mean much probably (we'll see) but azazel is still garbage? still overnerfed? man what the fuck eggmund, leave boring ezazel in peace.
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>>121617474
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>>121619884
STANDING HERE
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>>121616335
I lost the run because I forgot IV bag does 1 heart damage in the womb.
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>>121619884
I can't stop laughing, holy shit.
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>>121619884
And Pyromaniac, presumably?
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>>121619884
gotta go fast
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>>121619884
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>>121620140
Nah, either host hat or some other explosion immunity, considering he's not being healed.
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>>121620124
>>
What's the most bullshit time-consuming challenge and why is it beans?
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>>121620140
Soy milk+Ipecac automatically gives you explosion immunity.
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>>121620140
>>121620250
ipecac + dr fetus makes you not take damage from them for some reason
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>>121620140
>>121620250
that gif was before afterbirth. Dr fetus and ipecac instantly explodes on your face but you don't get hurt. Strange synergy.
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>>121620124
I SAID IT
IT'S THE EDMUND FUN CURSE
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>>121618775
Coins also break faster the more damage you deal to him
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Afterbirth is killing my desire to play. Too much artificial difficulty, too many questionable design decisions. I really don't see myself 100%ing this one, or even playing much at all, unless something changes soon.
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>>121620257
Maybe not as time consuming but I will stand by tard-wrangler being the most bullshit
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Does Cambrion Conception only give one familiar or can it give more?
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>>121620858
up to 4
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>>121620687
Same here. I got real platinum god before afterbirth but man, I'm not sure about now.
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>>121620858
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Cambion_Conception


Upon taking damage a certain number of times, Isaac gains a permanent demonic Familiar. Possible familiars include:
Dark Bum
Demon Baby
Leech
Lil' Brimstone
Succubus
The first and second familiars will each spawn after taking damage 15 times. The third and fourth familiars will each spawn after taking damage 30 more times. No further familiars will spawn. As a result, after taking damage 90 times, four out of five of these familiars will have spawned.
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>>121616885
He could also abuse Forget Me Not if he gets it early and repeat a floor for more items.
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>>121618453
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Version_History#2015-11-06_Afterbirth_Update
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>>121617001
Greedhead is common as fuck, I love it

>>121620421
I think having two explosive shot items does that, since I got Epic Fetus + IPECAC and was immune to explosions once
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I did it reddit
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>>121621020
Lewdest item there is.
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>get Brimstone and Keeper's Head

>doesn't spit out a cartoonish geyser of coins
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>>121621769
>not immaculate conception
>not maggie's stomach slowly distending as she eats more and more hearts
>not her womb being filled with the power of god
>not the eventual release of being too full
Demonic whore pls go.

>>121621796
What does it do?
I'm surprised they didn't just use the Mom's Knife synergy or something like it.
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>>121621714
Upvoted and gilded.
>>
Tiny rooms suck but they're fucking hilarious with Rubber Cement a lot of range
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>>121622313

Tiny rooms are cozy.
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so has anyone gotten the quad cage room when going to the lamb?
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>>121595893
Threadly reminder that azazel and lillith were only nerfed so you couldn't cheese greed mode and the reason they weren't changed back last patch was so you don't eat that steak in one bite. I'm so sick of this ARG bullshit and the devs sucking themselves off when EVERYONE knows who the secret character is.
>>
>double Rag Man
>double Little Horn
>double Haunt
>double Gemini
HOW ARE THESE FIRST FLOOR BOSSES
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>>121622467
Some hardcore Oedipus complex here.
>>
>>121622937
All these god awful game changes and design philosophy and I'm still going to buy this fucking DLC. What is wrong with me?
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>>121623297
>>121622937

This is the future you choose.
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>>121623297
I'm hoping at the end of all this bullshit the game becomes properly balanced and we have an actual fun time. At the moment though I really don't want to touch it due to what I would actually consider artificial difficulty.
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>>121622467
Are tiny shops possible? What about secret rooms?
>>
>artificial waiting: the challege goes all the way to the chest
At least the Guardian had some semblance of fun and didn't lock you out of doing anything while you had to wait for your damage to come back.
Why didn't he just make the brains respawn instantly?
>>
So i bought the game with afterbirth on steam, is there a way to uninstall just the DLC and play vanilla rebirth?
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Who is the new character?
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>>121615197
Honestly I'm not very good and I've beaten Speed! and The Guardian.
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>>121615197
just get the glowing hourglass in the shop
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>>121623765
Edmund, he begins with the Stopwatch
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>that moment when you're doing a casual run and realize you can pick up speed to get to hush
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>>121624335
And the Raw Liver
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>>121624335
That's a good one.
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>>121624335
And a Dead Baby.
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>>121623683
I was trying this challenge today for a while and getting 10/10 mad mostly at waiting for the brains to respawn. They also made it so you can't shoot brains right when it spawns or right when you enter rooms which makes the challenge a billion times harder.


Fuck that shit challenge
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>>121624335
Hold up. If Edmund can tell the time how come the patches roll out like this?
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>>121625476
I managed to clear brains first try with no overpowered items considering I never pick up bobs brain in any runs. But speed takes the cake. I lost like 4-5 hours trying my luck.
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Am I the only one that never gets fucking Devil Deals anymore?
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>bobs brain
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>>121625786
his time is slower
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First time I have a chance of getting the Knife, and I have fucking Ipecac
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>>121626698
Your first time with a knife won't be that good anyway.
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>>121626698
Doesn't the knife override ipecac?
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Is Steven supposed to be a nigger?
>>
>Scumhead northerlion doing speed challenge
>dice room number 1 on 3rd floor
>Poliphemous , cursed eye , antigrav , marked
for fuck sake his luck knows no bounds ?
>>
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Golden_Horse_Shoe
Just got this in an Error room.
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God damn when are they going to fix azazel again.
playing him now is a total pain in the ass
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>>121626816
That's the complaint he's making, I think.

>>121627329
It's pure skill.
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I fucking love all the unavoidable damage in Afterbirth

Ten out of fucking ten
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>>121627329
I mean. He rerolled his Lost run with holy mantle and died in the next room.
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So I just beat blue baby as samson with the knife to fill out his post it note and decided to start on maggie and spawned with a knife. What do i d /boig/?

Haven't even left starting room, only 9 seconds in.
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>>121627976
You play the game.
If you're asking what caused you to start with an item, you picked up Eden's Blessing.
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>>121627976
you get blessed by Edmund
enjoy your Fun run
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SPEED! IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. FUCK YOU EGGMON
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>>121628342
I don't want to get banned from steam for having fun though. Where do i turn myself in.
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>>121628545
You have to find and pick up "NO! Never Again" before the run ends
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>>121628195
damn i had no idea eden's blessing did that. What a fun item, ez win for me i guess.
>>
Controller or keyboard?
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>>121627684
he died anyway. I guess luck cant save you from everything
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>>121628804
Too used to a keyboard to switch. I tried.
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>>121627329
Luck is a skill too ;^)
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>>121629536
Both. On desktop, I use keyboard. When I'm lazy and lying down on my laptop, I use controller. Controller is much better for any controllable tears.
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LITERALLY SATAN
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>>121629536
I just ordered a Wii U Pro PC adapter for Rebirth. I already have 300+ hours of Isaac with a keyboard. Did I fuck up?
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>>121628726
It actually did drop. First time I've seen it.
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>>121630808
Why did you order it if you're completely fine with a keyboard?
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>>121621262
Oh, thank you. I'm late though. When will eggmund mcfuckmuffin and his crew of nicalis shits ever do anything actually FUN for once?
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Holy shit Scolex I didn't know you were a richfag
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>>121630952
I didn't have a controller until recently, and it seems like it would be more comfortable than the keyboard
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>>121631607
You'd be better of with xbox 360 controller really. Its really good for other games as well as isaac if you're used to it.
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that feel when you win
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>>121631854
>winning
ANON NO
STOP
EGGMUND'S ANTI-FUN RADAR WILL GO OFF THE CHARTS WHEN IT SEES THIS
>>
What the fuck is with the "Spear of Destiny" being a sword? Has Nicalis just completely stopped caring?
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>>121632537
Chew your steak in smaller pieces.
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>>121632537
It's a spear head.
A real spear would be a lot longer.
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So why does metal start playing when i entire certain rooms?
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>>121632081
it keeps happening
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>Play as Isaac
>Mom's Knife finally works with 20/20
>Carry a clutch/low hp run to Hush.
>Doesn't get hit once by It Lives! or Hush.
>mfw
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Super Pride died in the doorway I needed to go through, dropping Dead Cat, screwing my Alt F4s until the last life I think.

I have 4 lives left from my count.

It's time.
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So for the hush when it's shooting the purple tears there are gaps that you can safely stand, right?

Sometimes I can find them but occasionally I can
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Well. Fuck Death and his stupid scythes.
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homestretch lads, wish me luck
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>>121633757
Rest in pieces, run.
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>>121633224
>get tractor beam
>get to hush
>20/20 in one of the two rooms
>it doesn't work with tractor beam
THANKS MCEGGFUCK
SUCK THAT STEAK
CHOKE ON IT
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How does an egg get so lucky?
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>>121634510
Are you sure you aren't just doublefiring and the tears are overlapping?

>>121634516
It's the luck from his shiny head.
If you polish it, some of it might rub off on you.
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>>121634516
EGG~~U
>>
Note to self: Tech X and Pisces do not mix.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>121634734
I honestly dont know, it was about two days after release and seeing you mention 20/20 reminded me of it. Was hard to tell because hush is so fucking tanky it was impossible to really tell if I was doing double my old damage or not.

is it known how/if they do the calculations for hush/ultra greed tankiness, or are they just a set amount? Seems dumb to get a super nice run just to have to spend 10 minutes fighting a sandbag because fuck you slow down chew your steak bosses :^)
>>
The Guardian has to be the most poorly thought out challenge in Isaac to date. It's not even hard it's just pure luck whether or not the little fucking retard walks into spikes or some other random unavoidable bullshit. The mom fight is purely impossible to actually guard the heart as are most other situations. What the fuck was edmund even thinking with this shit?
>>
>>121636028
>fatmund
>thinking
Nice one, anon.
>>
>>121636028
don't forget rooms of bumrush enemies that you literally wont have the dps to kill in time before they shred some of your health. Too many of those and it's g fucking g.
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>>121634516
who /yellowfever/ here
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>>121636439
Reporting in.
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why is az still hot garbage?
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>>121636028
>tfw I beat the Guardian first time
What's do difficult? Just pick up a lot of health ups.

And for the Mom fight, just sit against one of the doors and she'll eventually pop out and you should kill her instantly. Not really difficult.
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>>121636717
Woah buddy, how about you slow down with that steak there huh?
>>
>>121636809
>kill her instantly
no you wont
>sit there
doesn't matter when she's constantly stomping on the heart. good luck blocking that shit

if you beat it first try you got lucky, plain and simple.
>>
>>121623690
Can't you delete afterbirth from your library?
>>
t b h steak meme isn't funny
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>>121636996
Are you honestly trying to say Mom stomps more than she opens doors?

Quit making excuses and put some effort in
>>
>>121627976
Did you pick up Eden's Blessing?
It gives you a random item next run.
>>
blue baby>azazel desu
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>>121637186
Slow down
>>
>>121637203
She does when you get the variant where she is nothing but 100% stomping

which has happened to me twice on that challenge
>>
>>121637186
>>121637296
when did this filter become a thing
>>
>>121637475
Since halloween, sjw used to filter to spooky scary skeleton.
>>
>>121637186
I like it, desu.
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>Not even egg luck can beat the "Speed!" Challenge.
THIS IS A REALLY GOOD EXPANSION THANKS NICOLO BREADMUND
>>
>>121637203
Just beat the challenge, mom is just an example of an enemy that you can't do jack shit about them damaging the heart. It's an awful challenge fully reliant on luck. It's one of the few challenges where when you lose you can't say "oh man I should have really did X better" when the faggot walks onto spikes or a red poop and instantly dies you just feel robbed. Good thing it only takes like 10 minutes to get to the heart.
>>
>next update
>"made a few balance changes :^)"
>following items are now special items: proptosis, ipecac, 20/20, abbadon, magic mush, inner eye, 3 dollar bill, body/mind/soul, holy mantle, all flight items, capricorn, eve's mascara, tough love, trinity shield, dry baby, cricket's head, infamy and lost contact
>guppy removed from game
>lost starts with dunce cap
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One of these items is making soul heart pickups count double.
Is it Binky?
>>
>get halo, mushroom, meat boy fan and capricorn all in one run
alright
>>
So i bought rebirth and afterbirth bundle, is there a way to play without afterbirth since apparently its garbage?
>>
the Speed! Challenge would actually be fun if Isaac moved and shot faster.
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>>121636194
>having and awesome guardian run
>hearts to the second row, rest soul hearts
>Max speed and Max damage
>Retard walks into a red poop I instatly die

It took all my willpower to no fuck my monitor with my gamepad
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>>121639183
every time I do Speed! I get haunt on floor 1.

Well meme'd edward. *holds R* :^)
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>>121638330
>walks into room with the big red spiders
>they immediately rush his ass and he can't kill them fast enough
>"oh ok that's fine, I'll take unavoidable damage from enemies rushing me down I guess"
even the egg is calling out ed's shit
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What the fuck is this?
>>
>>121628804
using a dualshock 4
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>>121639183
I thought there was supposed to be a mode like that that sped up everything released with the game
>>
>>121639439
a sign to slow the fuck down
>>
>>121639179
It's only garbage to old players, you should be able to enjoy yourself starting fresh.
>>
>>121639608
Sacrifice Rooms were supposed to be "fixed" too, but they're still almost exactly the same.
>>
Just a reminder not to eat your steak too fast guys ;)
>>
Hey guys, just wondering what things do you think are currently fun? No reason, just curious :^)
>>
LITERALLY WHY INCLUDE THE DAMAGE STAT IF YOURE GOING TO MAKE BOSS HEALTH SCALE WITH IT
WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO HIT GREED WITH 500 POLY SHOTS
>>
>>121640019
wiz is a blast
>>
>>121639608
Yeah there was even a blog post about it. Not sure why it was scrapped for a challenge. Probably because it was a shit idea.

on that note
>red gurdy jr when doing speed!

Loving this juicy steak.
>>
>>121638330
>>121639373
>Fires up speed challenge for the first time
>DrFetus and Butt Bomb on first floor
>>
>>121640293
>Blue Double Gurdy
>any Double Champion in general
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>>121628804
I'm curious how Isaac will play with the steam monstrosity
>>
>>121639417
I'm pretty sure that egg has always called out the dumb design bullshit in Isaac, he's just really polite about it.

Just because it's his most played game ever doesn't mean he won't criticize it.
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>>121640019
fuck off eggman you kek
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>>121639417
>speed is definitely a bullshit challenge thats almost entirely reliant on RNG

if you walk into a bad room there's absolutely unavoidable damage.
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>>121639175
you could say...
its all up from here.
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>>121622117
>Maggy buff never

Fucking hell McMuffet
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>>121640998
>Maggy has remained completely unchanged since PRE-WRATH OF THE LAMB
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>In Chest
>Lost Run
>Mega Stan's door open
>Exit game and continue to save
>Go to room on the left
>Double Adversary
>Alt F4 upon death
>OK, let's see what's in the door on the right
>Go through
>Die instantly as one of the four red champion Cages spawn right on top of the entrance
>Quickly Alt F4
>OK, let's see what's in the door that's below
>Two Dark Ones plus one Little Horn
>Looks like Mega Stan is giving me a warm welcome here at the Chest
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>>121623690
This probably. Might make you have to use old rebirth saves.
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>>121640159
Sounds good, we were planning on putting the Dunce Cap in all pools, and ensuring that it shows up in every single run at least once, just like the bible!
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>content unlocked by bullshit character that can only be hit once in a game with rooms with unavoidable damage
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>haven't beaten Greed mode with Maggy yet, decide to do that today
>happy as fuck when I get The Body and Placenta
>first devil room has troll bombs and I get an angel room next
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>>121642098
Maggy is second to lost in terms of number of completion marks
Fuck Maggy.
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So, is the point of Lazarus just to kill yourself right away?
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>>121642295
yes unless you're a shitter who needs the extra life
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>>121642050
>tfw now have to spend the next hour savescumming my way through all rooms in the chest for items
>tfw have Mom's Knife Ipecac plus lots of damage ups
>tfw not yet ready for Mega Stan
>tfw have to take a break from this game for tonight, because unlocked The Body earlier in the day
I seriously hope they don't fix the Alt F4 exploit, or else fuck this game.
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>>121642295
Keep your life for the second floor.
Only take 1 spirit heart max from second floor, leave everything else on the ground.
Take every deal with the devil available, and then immediately finish yourself off with whatever available.
Alternatively, don't get a devil room and just end the run there because Lazarus is shit.
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK THE SPEEED CHALLENGE

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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How do you predict the angels' holy laser things
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>>121642865
I am so sorry, NL.
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>>121642993
I had really good items, but just had horrible luck in directions i went to

had ~4 minutes left getting into womb 1 and died due to horribly small rooms and mobs

kill me
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So if im a brand new player i should just do rebirth without afterbirth i take it?
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>>121642938
noob question here: Are the challenge runs randomly generated? Just curious because i'm doing the second one right now and getting some pretty good items to counteract the bad things you get from the start.

>mfw the two times I actually ever get to fight mom I defeat here with the bible
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>>121642938
You don't.
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>>121643163
>kill me
Sorry, this option is timegated because of a "bug".
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>>121642938
For the one that shoots 4 ways:
I forget what the pattern is because I never fight him, but you can tell the difference by whether he sticks his arms out or closes his wings around himself.
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>>121643246
With Afterbirth.
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>>121643246
Get Afterbirth after you get Real Platinum God.
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>>121642938
glowing hands = +
wings folded = x
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>>121643246
Start with Vanilla Isaac, get platinum god, then Rebirth without Afterbirth, get real platinum god.
It's the only way to git gud.
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>>121643254
yes they are
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>>121642993
>Cutting up your steak before you eat it

I seriously hope you don't do this. It gets cold so fast.
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>>121643246
Afterbirth nerfed a lot of things so playing rebirth content will probably be harder. Waiting until you finish most of it is probably better.
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>>121643671
Makes me feel good then getting such good items. Thanks
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>>121643791
Look who is a speedy eater :^)
You have to wait 109 hours after each bite.
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how did they fix the greed mode breaking?
just by removing the blood donation machine?
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>>121644209
There are other ways to break it but you need to be craftier.
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>>121644209
And IV bag.
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>>121644209
You can only buy items once.
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>>121644360
how so?
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Is anyone else disappointed by the sheer lack of item synergy that was promised with Afterbirth?

Shit just overrides all the time instead of making cool combos.
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>>121644834
D20 seems to work quite well for example.
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>>121644834
Get the D20, play a room so there are loads of coins, roll them all, open chests, avoid picking stuff up, buy batteries, keep rolling.

Results like these are possible.
>>
I have yet to see any new synergy in this game, which was one of the more highlighted features of this update.

Shit just gets overridden instead of getting hybrid effects.

Are we gonna get the content that was promised or is Edmund literally just a liar. The only reason I don't want a refund on this is b/c the game itself is good, but god damn is this just one fuckup after another.
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>>121644891
Why would you ever want any synergy for items that are not Brimstone?
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Goddamn. The Uptempo++ seed essentially replaces the soundtrack, and it still sounds awesome.
>>
>>121644952
>>121645081
thanks, nice to let me know
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>>121642865
Just reroll until you get knife, thats p much the only reliable strat.
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Can anyone confirm if Azazel is still absolute shit then?
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Has eggmund fixed anything yet?
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How slow do you guys like your steak?

I always order mine extra slow.
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>>121645132
He originally stated it was an expansion "for the players" but its more and more seeming like an attempt for the devs and Edmund to basically jerk each other off with this ARG bullshit. It's honestly pretty disrespectful to their dedicated fan base. Even fucking reddit have stopped sucking his dick and are getting annoyed. And yes, even the fucking EGG is annoyed.
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>>121644891
The only synergies added are the ones that he had gifs of on his blog. And they're pretty much all brimstone shit.

Afterbirth adds fucking nothing.

>>121645664
lol
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Is Ghost Baby worth it? I'm a new and somewhat bad about to be on the last level with mom with 3 hearts and 4 soul hearts.
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>go guardian for first time
>pretty easy
>"lol why people cry over this"
>mom fight
>he always stand in her feet
>die
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NICE
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>tiny planet + multidimensional baby + mysterious liquid
HOLY FUCKING FUCK THIS IS REALLY USEFUL
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>>121646013
i wouldnt pay a heart for it if thats what youre asking
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>>121646082
The brimstone ghosts can damage their own allies.
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>>121645143
>>121645957

Well for example when I got the Nail tears and then the fire tears, it just overrode the nails and made larger fire tears instead of Nails that were on fire.

You know? Just simple shit that they couldn't seem to be fucked with doing.

I also got the Dunce upgrade with something and it didn't make any shots go diagonally, let alone two paths.
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>>121646236
vid, nigga
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>>121646240
Yeah, it's a devil deal. Thanks
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>>121646013

Ghost Baby isn't worth paying hearts for. It's kind of a shit item that carried over from the original game. it was only slightly better in that though.
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Did they fix the Azazel nerf?
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>>121646403
I don't know how to webm
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>have tiny planet
>rubber cement on the next floor
>this is going to be so crazy
>tears just get stuck on the wall

wooooow
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>>121646351
They couldn't be fucked doing anything other than recoloring old enemies and adding on on death effect for the "new enemies", you think they got time to deal with with small quality of life changes?
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>>121646673
Also very curious if anyone knows.
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>>121646801
>>121646673
no
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>lazarus run to finally beat dark room with him
>getting a decent run, not really great
>get bible
>get to womb 2
>rushing to get to mom's heart, take a ton of damage
>don't bother going back to get relic dropped spirit hearts
>get to hush
>only 4 hearts
>Bring him down to his last 2 phases
>and die
fuck
it was intense as all hell but fun
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>>121646692
haha you want a synergy? get brimstone or FUCK OFF AND ENJOY YOUR STEAK
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>>121646840
Well fuck. I want Lilith.
>>
Guys

found out how to unlock new char and the rest of the content including the secret levels and turbo mode

you gotta 100% all 3 of ur save files and they combine into the ultimate file w/ unlocked char

he plays like lost without flying and you have to clear rooms within 30 seconds or die including hush.
beating hush with him unlocks all the majority of the expansion pack
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>>121647071
I could've believed it until you entirely left his mechanics out.
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>>121647071
pics or it didn't happen
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>>121646065
it's really not a "hard" challenge. Honestly it's one of the easier in terms of mechanics, it's just 100% luck based bullshit whether the retard dies or not. You can't "guard" shit.
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>>121645132
Yeah, the only new synergies are pretty much the ones they kept showcasing on twitter (mostly involving the fetuses). It's incredibly disappointing, but then again, it was expected, since this is exactly what happened in Rebirth after they hyped the new combos so much.

Same can be said about transformations or some new items. I know we're bound to get a few bad ones, but did we really need shit like Friend Zone or Best Bud? Fucking shit.
>>
>no technology synergy update
>no mom's knife synergy update
>tfw eggmund only cares about motherfucking brimstone
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>all the literally unavoidable damage in Speed!

FUCK YOU EDMUND DO YOU EVEN PLAYTEST YOUR SHIT FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE YOU FAT SACK OF FUN HATING TURDS.
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>>121648076
edmund doesn't playtest it because he doesn't develop the game
>>
Anyone else getting headaches or full-blown migraine from playing?
I mean, I know my eyes are fucked, was just wondering if I'm alone in my misery.

I'm getting a controller next week and I hope being able to put some more distance between me and the screen will help at least a little.
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>>121648076
slow down buckaroo... actually you can't because an enemy will charge your shit and kill you. Just R until you get the one designated overpowered item from a lucky devil card :)
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Is this my punishment for trying to eat my steak too fast?
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>>121647405
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>>121648407
but you can get between then spikes.
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>Epic fetus
>Ipacec
>Incubus

Holy fuck this is awful.
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>>121648317
this may sound retarded but you aren't blinking enough. When I play a lot of isaac i don't blink enough and my eyes dry out like crazy. causes mad headaches. I thought my vision was going bad until I realized what it was.
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>>121648317
i think it's just playing too much. When it came out I was playing like 8 hours a day and my eyes felt like they were melting. I had to take out my contacts and put my glasses on it felt better
>>
>Finally beat everything lost in base game
>the fucking cheevo and item for it is bugged
>finally beat everything lost in afterbirth
>the fucking cheevo is bugged

fuck you Ed. Playtest your fucking games.
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>>121648317
think its a combination of playing all day and the color scheme of the game

dont worry after youve played all day youll be completely burnt out and never play again
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HOLY FUCK >>>CHAOS<<< BEST ITEM.
Just did a run with lazarus (still had to get greed mode with him)
I tried out chaos as my first shop buy item.
And i got the following items in order in the 2nd shop ,2 item rooms and devil deals.
Sacred heart start
2 guppy items (tail and head)
Holy mantle

Then next floor
God head
Guppy
Scythes
Crown of light

Holy shit i know i was lucky but goddamn this was fun.
Greed still took forever even tough i 1 shot every boss without them even spawning properly
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>doing Speed!
>heart mask boss

wow... so this is what a 100 dollar steak tastes like... delicious.
>>
>Directed tears
>Ipecac
>Curse of the tower
>Sad bombs
Well then.
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>>121650074
get gud random luck with room, boss, and items scrub
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>>121646065
Had the same.
I got trough cave and basement with taking 2 total hits while finding loads of soul hearts , and got 4 speed up pills.
I actually thought it was insanely easy because you get flying , can tank enemies and you do massive damage.

Then i died in a single room with full health because spikes,

Tried it again , same shit i died because i got rushed by masks/hearts and the hearts where on the other side of the big room.
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>ludovico technique on first room as judas
>AW YEA
>next room
>die to champion suicide bomber faggots

why me
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>>121650074
>next run
>start with little brimstone
>here we go
>2nd floor boss is double challenge red monstro in a small room
simply ebin
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never again
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succubus or incubus?
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>No boss door on burning basement

BRAVO
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>>121648858

While my eyes really are kinda bad, I think this also plays a part in it.

>>121649401

I wear glasses and I don't even want to think about how terrible it would be if I had contacts, instead.

>>121649814

I'm actually a little surprised the burning out hasn't happened yet. But I still have much to do in Rebirth before I move on to Afterbirth.
Unless, of course, I do burn out and end up spending my money on something else.
>>
>turdlings

why,jpg
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>>121650760
Congrats Anon
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>>121650892
incubus

incubus copies your shot, succubus just bounces around the room and gives you a slight buff
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>>121650032
All I get is fucking breakfast and other HP ups from Chaos
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>six runs with ???
>skip every devil deal
>not a single angel room
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>friend ball one of those floating mask/brain dudes
>it loses its front-facing invulnerability and dies to the first enemy it runs into

nice fucking game mcmuffin
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>basement xl
>both item rooms are next to each other
>first is death's touch
>second is mom's knife
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NO LIMITS!
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>>121651621
good think that they don't have any unlocks tied to that RNG bullshit
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>>121651858
>Pre-Nerf Box of Friends
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>>121651858
>IV bag
>BoF requires 2 charges
Oy vey anon, why dontcha oipdate ya game?
>>
I saw people complaining about missing checkmarks on the post-its after Afterbirth, and I thought mine was fine but I just realized that I'm missing like half of my hard mode clears. Including ones that don't make any sense like missing Hard Mode Cathedral despite having Hard Mode Chest done on that same character. Dammit.
>>
>>121652083
>>121652067

>updating

sorry that i like having what little fun base afterbirth allows
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>>121646351
The coin tears seem to synergize well with stuff, but then again they're also just circles with a fancy graphic so that was probably easy for them to do.
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So for ultra greed and hush, how is it decided how much fucking hp they get? Or is it set, because they always seem to take a million years for me to kill no matter my setup when I get to them.

What's even the fucking point of damage when you make bosses that don't even care about it.
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>>121650760
Isn't that already an item, that angel orbital that goes around you super fast? I haven't even unlocked Lost and I've gotten that a few times.
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>>121651983
I even had the Rosary Bead for most of one run.
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>>121652550
You wouldn't want to kill bosses TOO fast now, would you?
Enjoy your steak anon
>>
ALRIGHT FUCK THIS SHIT TIME TO GO HARD
TIME FOR THE LOST NO ALTF4
GIVE ME FUCKING MUSIC TO ROCK ALONG TO YOU FUCKERS
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>>121639604
>no slight indents on the dpad and face buttons

2/10 would not bang
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>>121652642
Edmund added a second one that's basically identical but has to be unlocked.
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>>121652550
To be an actual challenge, as opposed to
>oh look everything I hit dies immediately
>>
Anyone feel like Lilith is absolute garbage in non-greed mode?

I can't seem to make it past cathedral/sheol with her unless I get perfect/broken item combos.

And I'm pretty sure cambion conception doesn't work until I unlock it so..
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>>121652642
That's Guardian Angel. Sworn Protector is a worse version of it.
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>>121652807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNK7WZRVZtQ
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OH GOD HELP ME THEY'RE CHASING ME

HELP
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>>121652807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqT0iFZifgw
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>>121652550
They have a preset HP cap but they have a type of armor that increases as you deal damage to them.
This is to prevent them from being total fucking pushovers on brimknife runs
>>
>That timer in Speed

Delete this

I would've won if it weren't for that fucking time limit
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>>121652807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOE9qChddr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkUqKUQ4vuY
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>>121652892
>>121652995
>>121652642
>Beating Hush with the Lost just gives an item reskin
I used to like this game
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>>121652807
GOOD FUCKING JOKE EDMUND
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>>121653610
Who is this semen demon?
>>
>>121653509
That second one is pretty good actually.
>>
>>121653681
K E K
E
K
>>
Some design decisions in this game are so baffling that I'm CONVINCED they're bugs.

Like, the tumor transformation. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to give you spread shot AND keep your normal tears. That's the only way it makes sense. I'd rather believe they just fucked up their coding than do something so intentionally stupid.
>>
>>121653681
__D
SLOW
__W
__N
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>>121653681
okay thanks edmund
thanks a lot
>>
m e m e s

http://strawpoll.me/5950396
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>>121654225
Both times I've gotten the tumor transformation I kept my normal tears plus the two extra ones
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>>121654450
I MANAGED TO MAKE IT THROUGH A ROOM OF 6 MULLIBOOMS
I MANAGED TO BEAT POLYCEPHALUS ON A TINY ASS ROOM
AND I DIED IN THE FUCKING DEVIL ROOM TO THE INVISIBLE DEMON ASSHOLES
FUCK
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>>121653765
le fancy floors blind man
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>>121654878
don't you just love the new enemies in devil rooms? or spikes in them and item rooms? wouldn't be isaac if the game didn't constantly remind us of edmund hating the players fucking guts.
>>
I give fucking up.
I cannot do the lost. This shit is impossible and I am terrible.
Are there any working Isaac trainers I can use?

Don't want to edit save as it gives me all the achievements at the same time.
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>>121655987
dataminers found how to get lost in original
edmund cried it was like eating 100 buck steak in one bite

have more/full of that?
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>>121654594
I got tumor transformation from Missingno. and didn't.
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>>121656131
Yeah, there's one at www.gitgud.com
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>>121648496
I want that playlist.
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>>121656131
>I cannot do the lost. This shit is impossible and I am terrible.
If you get hit, press esc to pause before the will shows up and press alt+f4. When you continue you'll continue where you last 'saved'. The game autosaves at the start of each floor, but you can create a manual save by quitting to the menu, so you can do that every couple of rooms.

If you still can't git gud there's always cheat engine
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I think the saddest thing about both Rebirth and Afterbirth is that the devs were so proud of Brimstone and Mom's Knife and to some extent Technology and the Fetuses that they forgot to create any items that are at all as creative and game-changing as those since WotL.
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>>121655987
>>121656583

>mfw I know these people
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>>121657485
Tech X is pretty cool
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>>121657485
Chaos and continuum are some good shit
>>
I'm playing Judas and getting Black Hearts almost consistently every room. Does the Rosary Bead highly boost the chance of soul/black hearts dropping from enemies then?
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>>121657894
good shit go౦ԁ sHit thats some goodshit rightthere rightthere if i do ƽaү so my self i say so thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷM HO0OଠOOOOOOଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ Good shit
>>
>>121658625
Think you've had enough anon. We are cutting you off. Do we need to call you a cab?
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Why?
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Curse of the Maze is the most mildly annoying thing in the game.
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Man, that was easier than I thought.
All I had to do during Death and War and Super Pride/Sloth/Greed/Gluttony was spam Magic Fingers until they died, waste the rest of my 75 coins spamming it on Mega Stan's 2nd Phase, then Mom's Knife a few shots to finish him off.

All that's left is Greed Mode and Boss Rush as The Lost.
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>>121659424
Slow down my friend ;)
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>>121595893
AHAHAHAHAHA
FUCK YOU
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>>121659890
>address the difficulty spike in ultra greed
Edmund shut the fuck up and stop pretending it wasn't intentional.
>>
>>121659890
Where the fuck is he getting this 'positive' from? Even fucking reddit is shitting on him at this point.
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>>121659424
Because Edmund decided the best way to make his game harder was to make some damage literally unavoidable.
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Transformations are awful, Let me fix them

>Bob
>Has the poison trail as usual
>All spirit hearts dropped and in bar are changed to Poison hearts
>Poison hearts when depleted deal 2/4ths the damage of a black heart, and poison all enemies on screen.

>Mushroom
>Gives you two mushroom items you dont currently have

>Evil angel
>Gives you a fast firing follower, imagine demon baby with lil gish along with the black hearts

>Drugs
>Give heavy contact damage

>Angel
>Flying and Godhead
there we go i fixed isaac.
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>>121656261
Same here, but I got an Incubus on that floor too so it didn't matter much.
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>>121601762
Use the X out glitch for the lost nub
>>
>>121659985
It was intentional. He just didn't think it out, or test it, or do anything beyond "People are saying ultra greed is too easy, I know, I'll quadruple the HP of the coins his summons, that'll fix the problem".
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>>121660113
>2/4ths
That's just 1/2 dummy
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>he doesn't play with more gore

s m h t b h f a m
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>>121660113
>2/4ths
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>>121659890

>Ultra Greed is going to be easy again because le epic reddit thinks it's too hard

Fuck them
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>>121660295
>>121660357
Its like sixty seconds and a minute, Sure i could of said a minute, but i said sixty seconds because fuck i wasnt thinking
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>>121659985
It was intentional, but I really doubt it was tested thoroughly, just like the rest of the game. Seriously, if Afterbirth had even just a month of good concise playtesting with people that knew what they were doing and weren't just e-celebs it would have come out so much better..
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>>121660068
Twitter apparently. If you lo9ok at all the posts there its basically people just sucking his dick. Take this for example.
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>>121660113
>imagine demon baby with lil gish
Shouldn't it be Fear shots? Like when you get Abaddon. I don't think we have a Fear familiar yet.
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>>121659890
>positive
Please, someone send him the link of this thread
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>>121660436
I didn't notice any change in Ultra Greed either personally.

In fact, he should probably be harder. The 'higher defence when damaged' thing is pretty silly but it's not enough to make Greed or Hush difficult.
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>>121657108
i need to pay for pastebin pro to do that
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>>121660921
Honestly agree.
Ultra Greed is easy compared to the mode itself
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>>121660921
Hush can be tough if you have shit range by the time you get to him. The armor mechanic is retarded since it makes whatever damage you get from your items barely matter. It took me just as long to kill him with quad Brimstone + a shitton of other damage vs Soy Milk and Poison Tears.
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>>121660797
These were just basic ideas, A fear would be better yes.
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>>121660921
It's really noticeable if you don't get enough damage ups. I had a Tech X run and I was only able to kill two of his coins at most before he activated them. I assume current Azazel would have a difficult time killing his coins currently as well.
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>>121660312
>Custom seeds list ingame
How?
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>>121660113
Drugs giving you an effect that boosts your damage the longer you're in the room (because roid rage, or something) could be cool.
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>>121661272

enter them in afterbirth

after that they're unlocked forever and can be toggled by pressing Q and selecting them on the character select screen
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>>121661319
That, Or maybe taking pills gives you a very slight but permanent damage upgrade?
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Who is the best youtuber that constantly puts out Isaac content?
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>>121660068
The problem is that before the DLC even launched it had 'Overwhelmingly Positive' reviews on Steam.

Sure, people are shitting on it, but that doesn't matter when you have good reviews from everywhere else.
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>>121661475
Oh, that would be a good one. Good synergy with Little Baggy and PHD, and makes it an actually good idea to use shit like Retro Vision or Bad Gas.
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>>121660921
His coins activate extremely fucking quickly as he gets lower on health, to the point where even high damage runs have trouble destroying them.
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>Sackhead
>Blank Card
Holy shit no one tell Edmund about this it's so much fun. I got a fucking Chaos Card on Caves II.
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>>121661524
Is that even a question?
Go to bed NL.
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>>121661381
Wow, thanks man.

Also
>Greed Mode
>The Lost
Savescumming on this is sorta less necessary, once you know what waves are upcoming, you stopbutton before the hard one you know is next, collect the coins if you haven't already, Exit and Continue to set savepoint, and keep going
>Synthoil and Mom's Wig Basement treasure rooms
>First Devil Room
>Mom's Knife + The Mark
>Caves treasure rooms Jar of Flies + Latch Key
>Shop has BFFs and Lil' Battery
>Buy BFFs
>Spot replaced by Hive Mind
GG Greed
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>>121661567
See like why couldnt we get this shit instead of ONE random pill and like an hp upgrade, Wheres the cool shit like spawning flies?
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>>121661524
Egghead McScumLuck
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>>121645848
>Even fucking reddit have stopped sucking his dick
The second hottest post on there right now that isn't stickied is a checklist of complaints about Afterbirth. They're so mad.
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>>121661789
That's too much fun

Also Mom transformation should totally have given you a chance to spawn Charmed enemies when you hit things that last until you leave the room. The same kinds of enemies that she spawns during her boss fights. They could take damage on contact like the Chargers spawned by My Shadow so getting something like one of those regenerating meat guys wouldn't instantly win the room.
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>>121661732
I don't know who that is. I only got into the game recently.
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Is anyone getting mad at the retards on Reddit who keep pushing Ed to nerf/buff this and that?

Especially with the new bosses. Their ONLY APPEAL is that even the highest-damage builds will have to fight them legitimately without easy one-hit kills, and yet Reddit is starting petitions to have their damage scaling removed so retards like cobalt can effortlessly kill them in one flick of Mom's Knife.

I really hope Ed has the common sense not to listen to them
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>>121662076
Northernlion. Just look him up on youtube.
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name ONE reason for orange fire to exist
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>>121662197
i might care about the actual boss fight if the gameplay in isaac wasnt isaac. everyone plays it just to get op builds not to enjoy the "well crafted bossfights and riveting enemy encounters"
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Should I even TAKE Epic Fetus? Or keep Mom's Knife?

Sticking with Safety Scissors, only got NO NEVER AGAIN incase I buy something else from this floor's shop. Also so the game counts as me picking it up.
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>playing as blue baby
>5 tinted rocks on basement 1
>not a single bomb drop
this is infuriating
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OH MY FUCKING GOD

HOW DO I GET ANGEL ROOMS TO SPAWN

I'M TRYING TO KNOCK OUT MEGA SATAN KILLS FOR THE POST-IT NOTE

I AVOID DEVIL DEALS
I'M NOT TAKING ANY RED HEARTS

AND THEY JUST DON'T SPAWN
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>>121662357
I'd say Epic Fetus is better
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>>121662357
I'm pretty sure if you manage to get Sad Bombs, it synergizes with Mom's Knife and Epic Fetus.
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guys please post more lilith impreg it is my fetish
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>>121662357

they synergize nerd
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>>121662567
1) Don't take the first Devil Deal you see
2) Donate at least 10 coins to the donation machine on the floor you want an Angel Room on
3) Get a Rosary Bead
4) Kill a Key Beggar, Devil Beggar, or Skull Game Bum
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>>121662567
Donating 10 or more coins increases angel room chance by a fair bit. Check this out http://platinumgod.co.uk/angel-room
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that was fun
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I still don't know how to do this room without taking damage.
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>>121662898
Hit the top barrel near the bottom and then when it explodes run up. They dont all go off instantly
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>>121662898
stand near the door, shoot the top-most barrel and quickly hide alongside the wall
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>>121662898
Stand north/south against a barrel, shoot north/south (other side), when it explodes run towards the one you shot.
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>>121662898
Nigga, NL isn't even good at Isaac and he solved this puzzle first try.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3ryzof/re_meaningful_difficulty/

>Scaling HP on Ultra Greed and Hush is here to stay
>Judas nerf is here to stay
>Ultra Greed's current difficulty is tied to an "Everything is Terrible 2" unlock, but his coin HP will be nerfed to a lower value
>Tiny rooms will be less common
>The tumor transformation is bugged; it's supposed to fire 20/20 wiz tears in addition to your normal tears
>Glass Cannon's current setup is here to stay

Thoughts?
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>>121662898
Hit the top barrel then run up after it blows up
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>>121662838
the only time one makes you larger pills are good
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>>121662990
>>121663031
>>121663085
>>121663102
>>121663131

I'm retarded.

Thanks.
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>>121663179
Nah senpai, dont worry, it took me a bit to figure out how to.
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>>121663123
only one that upsets me is judas

he's pretty much right about everything else
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>>121663137
I got fucking huge as Azazel once, and unless I'm completely crazy I think it made Tammy's Head's lasers reach further
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Can you go back to the lobby after killing Hush?
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>>121662340
Some of the super bosses are actually really fun with surprisingly little bullshit. I like fighting Hush and Ultra Greed a lot.

The problem is that there are a lot of shitty early game bosses that ruin the bunch. The Haunt, Rag Man and Brownie are just some of the worst examples.
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>>121663329

Yes
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>>121663123
>no mention of a fix for tiny room boss rooms having deal doors off to the side, therefore being unobtainable
most of the other stuff is fine.

>>121663179
You're not retarded, people fuck them up all the time. I just watched NL do two different rooms like that in a row and bam, got em.
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>>121663123
Glass Cannon only bothers me because there's literally no instance where its good now, outside of the Lost. Yet another useless spacebar item clogging up the pool.
Everything else makes sense.
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>>121660113
>Guppy
>stays the same

>Lord of the Flies
>stays as it is, but also triples fly damage

>Bob
>first of all, make Bob's Lung an item instead of a trinket
>gives immunity to the green bombs enemies shoot at you
>gives immunity to poison from mushrooms
>gives a free Bob's Brain and immunity to all Bob's Brain damage
>Sloth and Super Sloth deal no damage

>Mushroom
>mushrooms will always pay out with a pill/item, and will never poison you
>gain a half heart for every mushroom you break
>random mushroom effect every room

>Mom
>in addition to current effect, charms every enemy for X seconds when you enter a room
>enemies deal double damage when charmed
>charmed enemies deal no damage to you

>Evil Angel
>keeps everything else
>turns all soul hearts into black hearts
>gives fear for a short time when entering a room
>guaranteed fear shots

>Tumor/Baby
>keeps normal tears, tumors have a chance of firing shots as well
>all familiars gain double damage

>Drugs
>gain two pills on transformation instead of one
>eats pills instantly, regardless of how good they are
>all pills give a slight damage and speed up
>all stats are increased by a very small amount the longer you're in a room

>Angel
>100% chance to get an Angel Room at the end of the floor, even if you've taken a past Devil Deal
>eternal hearts now replace normal heart and spirit heart drops
>eternal hearts now fully heal you

>Poop
>current effects stay
>destroying poop always gives a drop
>poop enemies deal no damage
>buttbombs don't damage you either
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>>121663442
I saw a pretty good suggestion for it on reddit

once you use it, it should turn you into a lost-style "0 HP character" for that room, and then revert once you leave the room
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>>121657638
Cough it up fucboi. Also I missed the second one, fuck.

Also, does alt+f4 restart you to the beginning of the floor, or to the beginning of the room? Doing a pretty good challenge run but I keep getting fucking curse of the blind, and just got a goat head and I KNOW theres going to be a ruse cruise waiting for me in the devil room
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>>121663442
The first time I took it, I thought if you took damage while holding it over your head it would shatter. You know, since that makes sense.
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>>121663529
LITERALLY THIS
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>>121663576
They're just sociopathic trannies
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>>121663576
Last "save point". You automatically save at the start of each floor, but you can get it to save every room by exiting your run and hitting continue.
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This is what happens when I play Eve Greed Mode.
I get medium- good items and suffering.
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>>121663679
I'd rather it shattered the first time you got hit while holding it, not just when it's above your head. That'd be better than the suicidal trash it is now.
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There should be an option post-greed mode to choose a trinket for characters to equip at the start of a run.

because FUCK how many shitty active items are, just let me start with NO!
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Got bumped into cursed eye. I made it to Hush anyway and have Ipecac but I don't see this going well. Why couldn't the shop have a black candle to remove this horrible thing?
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>>121663383
Regular Haunt isn't that bad
Spider Haunt and FUCKING PINK HAUNT are annoying as hell if your damage is low
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I'm tempted to just go into the files and give every character the Mega Satan key.

It's the only unlock I have left and I'm tired of getting dicked by the "no angel room" RNG.
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>>121663576
When in doubt, before you enter a room, pause the game. Exit Game. Continue. When you die next, pause ASAP and Alt F4. When you open the game again and Continue, it should drop you off where you did the Exit Game. Very very occasionally it does weird shit, like erase your spacebar item (happens with the Lost early very rarely, and then only once). I suspect this happens only if you don't use the Lost's D4 and you savescum without using it, the game somehow think you shouldn't have a spacebar item. Just an idea.
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>>121663576
OH FUCK FORGOT TO MENTION
Picking up pedestal items as well as using the D4 and other permanent effect spacebar items saves your game, so Alt F4ing after doesn't work.
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>>121663383
Haunt is fine, as long as you don't get a champion variant or small room.

Rag Man would be completely fixed if damaging the spiders hurt him as well.
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>>121663826
>taking 2 damage down tears up items
BUT
WHY
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>>121664186
>2
Soy Milk and?
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>>121664186
If you have no damage or tears to begin with, they're both good.
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>>121664307
Skinny Odd Mushroom. It's like Soy Milk but not shitty.
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>>121663442
Can it trigger Scapular?
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>>121663980
Do it then.
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>>121664143
GODDAMNIT THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE, FORGOT AGAIN
Do NOT, repeat, do NOT pick up ANY items that grant extra lives of ANY sort (i.e. Dead Cat, Guppy's Collar, Judas' Shadow, Ankh, etc.). They FORCE the game to use the extra lives, and having one on you PERMANENTLY prevents Alt F4ing for that WHOLE run, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THEM ON YOU.

So if you pickup Dead Cat, for example, for points towards Guppy transformation, and you reroll Dead Cat away, that also takes away your extra lives, allowing you to Alt F4 again.
Though I'm not sure if using one life, then rerolling the item that gave you the extra life still forces the game to prevent Alt F4, for the sole reason that since you already used up an extra life, you're fucked? Better to err on the side of caution, and reroll.
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>>121664384
no
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>>121664360
Huh. I never knew Odd Mushroom had a Damage Down modifier. Anyway, I think I may have my run.
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>>121663812
But my dick is curious now, for the full of the first and what the second one was. If I can't trust my dick what can I trust?

>>121663824
>>121664005
>>121664143
>>121664460
Good to know, mainly for when I try to get the last 3 marks for the lost (and only for this floor because FUCK curse of the blind, last time I had it I got soy milk and I fucking flipped out)
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>tfw everything dies instantly
>tfw no idea why
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>>121664683
>literally had a run that would be made perfect by lump of coal
>got krampus's head instead
because fuck you
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>fighting peep with half a heart left in boss rush
>do massive damage with chocolate milk ipecac in one shot
>next shot will kill him
>his eyes spawn and block the shot
>explosion is too close and kills me

fucking peep is still the worst boss in the game
>>
>Edmund in 2009
>AVGM

>Edmund in 2015
>lol timegates and incomplete content

What the fuck happened?
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>>121664814
Satan sold me Lump of Coal Floor 1 on this run, ironically. Also, is it worth it given I am a god at any Explosive in this game?

Completed a Lost Greed run with 20/20 Dr. Fetus Bomb tears.
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>>121664778
looks like candy.
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>>121664814
>pause the game in the split second when the item is spawned and on the floor, but the doors aren't opened yet
>exit
>hit continue
good job next time
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>>121664943
Do it.
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Does Explosivo synergize with Lump of Coal? Can anyone confirm?
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>>121665168
Just took it. Immediately sad. It doesn't synergise with Parasite. That's another one for the "not fixed" synergy list.
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So if I slow my DPS heaps on Monstro or Phase 1 of Hush will Ultragreed/Hush2 take damage faster?
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>>121664878
that's not the bloat, anon.
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>>121665709

No, that was just a theory. Hush/Ultra Greed don't have scaling HP, rather they have a cap on the amount of damage they can take per-hit.
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>>121665194
>synergize
what do you even mean
the two items have completely unrelated effects
explosivo's timer takes the same amount of time regardless of tear size, if that's the sort of obscure shit you're imagining
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>>121665709
Ultra Greed and Hush's scaling works based on the amount of damage you deal to them. The more damage you do, the stronger their armor is. The armor slowly drains over time.
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>complete post-it

>no blinding baby

???
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>>121666089
You ate your steak too fast.
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>>121665871
I think he's asking if the damage goes up more when the tears are stuck to something
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>>121666160
Yeah that's what I meant.
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>>121665264
Ipecac does synergize with Parasite provided you hit an obstacle. The Mini-Ipecacs can also split if they hit obstacles.
>cramped-ass room full of rocks and skulls and whatever
>Ipecac + Parasite
>if you miss you blow up the whole room and yourself
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>>121666089
It's a "glitch" just like the time-locked content.
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>>121666089
>press q to egg
What?
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>>121666481
You unlock it by beating everything with The Lost on hardmode. It works similarly to Eden Tokens, only tokens can only be obtained through Lost victories.
It gives you Northernlion luck for the run you activate it on.
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>>121666481
it's NL's personal build of the game. it activates perfect rng mode
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>buy treasure map
>game crashes

BRAVO MCMUFFIN
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>>121666809
It's your trinket.
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>>121666760
>>121666797
What the hell do you mean by "Northernlion" luck?
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>>121666982
>he's never watched the egg of luckiness
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>>121666982
Patented NorthernLion Luck.

Dry Baby
r
y

B
a
b
y
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>>121667138
>>121667164
plz explain. I'm new
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>>121667164
That doesn't make sense since that was one his unluckiest runs until he got dry baby and even then that didn't save him

>>121667164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPXnP_LWGts
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>>121666982
If you use a special seed it saves it as an Easter egg. You can then activate them in that menu. NL is a youtuber who plays isaac and is notoriously lucky.
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>>121667230
NorthernLion is a Streamer/Youtuber who's well known for his Isaac Runs.
It's a common joke that he has ridiculously high luck since he often gets good runs that involve Guppy, Mom's Knife, Brimstone, Synergies or any combination of the above.
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>>121667230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5PLC6nmOO4

Start here and work your way up.
Enjoy the continuity of watching a guy who's ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE at a video game, and through the miracle of 1600 episodes, becomes decent at it.
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So as it turns out, Buttons can spawn Donation machines. Even in Greed mode.
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>>121667480
Buttons are flat-out the most useless thing in the entire game.
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>>121667710
>curse rooms
>angel rooms
>holy water
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Ultra Greed, do I have a chance?

I'm out of lives, fucking triple stain bossfight
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This is gonna take a while. I'm gonna savor this steak.
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>>121668032
Hahahaha nope, I died to the room I THOUGHT had Monstro in it.

4 normal greeds and I got hit by a stray shot.
And then curse of the tower triggered
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>>121667863
>Curse Rooms
Can occasionally give you items or soul/evil hearts, along with a chance to get a deal with the devil or pills.
>Angel Rooms
I've had more Angels Rooms with actual items than Devil Rooms with actual items since Afterbirth, and they let you go to Mega Satan.
>Holy Water
Actually does pretty decent damage.
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>>121667470
Why would I watch a guy who is bad at the game? Why wouldn't I watch someone who is good?
>>
what item should i reroll to get in a treasure room to start a lost run? i don't think stopwatch appears outside of shops or i'd just grab one of those. not sure if i want epic fetus due to the blast damage
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>>121668246
Lost? Holy Mantle

Check the curse room for Dead Cat, too
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>>121668238
You should watch NL for his genius strats, like the 'northernlion is a genius and fucked your mother'.

It's the hypest scum egglord gameplay around.
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>>121668238
Because he's actually pretty good at the game. Just watch the Afterbirth videos if you'd prefer; in Rebirth he pulled off a 100 win streak randoming characters, all the way through the chest.
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>>121668176
I'm 98% convinced that Monstro was a placeholder, since he's easier to fight and down than any of the current variants of the room, so Nicalis could make sure that Ultra Greed was functioning properly.
Would also explain why U. Greed was so pathetically easy originally, Nicalis was just so fucking retarded and didn't switch it back.

>>121668238
Because he's the only guy who's entertaining.
He isn't actually that shit at the game anymore, but he was fucking awful all the way up until end of vanilla, and still pretty bad up until mid rebirth. Now he can get good streaks and wins and shit

The thing is that almost all other Isaac players aren't entertaining at all. NL is at least a fun listen.
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>blow up devil statue
>fight dark angel
>get key pieces that way

it's fucking simple mcmuffin just fucking do it
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>>121668371
People make jokes about how shitty NL is, and to be fair he is astonishingly mediocre for somebody who's played the game for several thousand hours, but the dude beat the chest with the lost on his first fucking run, when push comes to shove he can actually play Isaac really well.
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>>121668634
Even if he was shit I wouldn't care; he's fantastic as background noise/fun banter. NLSS is fun to watch, shame Cobalt isn't replaced by Dan/Fox/Baer, though.
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>>121668542
desu I like Admiral Bahroo. He used to do mainly Borderlands content but has switched to almost exclusively Isaac. He's the reason I got into the game in the first place.
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>>121668610
Or how about if you bomb the devil statue, you lose a heart container but a key piece spawns next to you? It would fit in well with the "trade HP for items" thing the rest of the devil room stuff has going on.
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>>121668798
trading health for key pieces is a great idea, too bad it'll never get implemented
>>
>Depths 1
>Greed!
>Depths 2
>Super Greed!

FUCK
>>
Are there any good rebirth mods?
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>>121668798
It should be two hearts and you can't do it again for any of the next devil rooms
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>>121668996
EVERY TIME
V
E
R
Y

T
I
M
E
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>>121668798
It wouldn't work lore-wise, since the whole point of killing Angels is tied into Isaac "throwing away his faith" and accepting his sin.
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>>121666481
>>121666982
it's easter egg mode

http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth-seeds
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>>121669270
then why do you kill satan at the end of that path?
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What is the entire story of Isaac? I know the basic story from pic related but it looks like it was made pre-rebirth and I want to know anything else added in rebirth and possibly afterbirth.
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>>121663123
This just confirms that they literally don't test anything. Ed heard that Ultra Greed was too easy and he himself felt that Azazel and Lilith were too good so he just told Tyrone to just change some numbers. They didn't even check anything to see if what they changed was alright.
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>>121669712
The Lost was apparently the one telling Mom to kill Isaac while hiding in the Attic.
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>>121669219
I actually think the chance of finding them like that must be higher
Literally happens 4/5 runs for me
I end every single run with 70+ coins
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There should be a Bum transformation that removes your Bum followers but grants you their effects whenever you pick things up
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>>121669996
>The Lost wants Isaac to die

its like poetry
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>Room full of red flames
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>>121668610

The entire point of the angel bossfights is that you can't get stupidly OP from devil rooms AND fight Mega Satan
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>>121663123
>raising his charge time slightly
>slightly
Fuck you Nicalis, that isn't SLIGHT.
I don't mind an Azazel nerf but making it take several seconds to charge is bullshit.
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>>121669996
So, The Lost is likely Isaac's dead sister?

Huh.
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>>121668225
>Actually does pretty decent damage.
For all of 5 seconds. And not to flying enemies. If it lasted the whole time you were in the room, and was Lemon Party sized, THEN it would be good.
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>>121670248
:^)
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>>121669712
https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/569593476750245888
That was pre-Afterbirth though, nobody has much of a clue of what the limbo at the end of the game or the Lost being the voice of God is supposed to mean.
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>>121670381

That's a single item out of a pool of hundreds

If you can manage to find it then good for you, but by no means is it as reliable a strategy
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>greed mode
>double green bloat two floors in a row
>mfw
>>
>DIE IN FRONT OF MEGA SATAN
>9 LIVES

GOD

DAMNIT

I JUST WASTED 40 MINUTES

I CANT BEAT MEGA SATAN WITH 1 HEART
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>>121670434
>wanting reliable strategies

Next you'll want your steak delivered to you all at once.
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>>121669996
What about Azazel and Eden?
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>>121670550
>triple Stain
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>>121670563
YES YOU CAN FAGGOT
LET THE 2HU FLOW THROUGH YOU
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>>121670563
Yes you can. Channel your inner 2hu.
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>>121670563
rub a dub dub, git gud you scrub
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>>121670615
>>121670660
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>>121670285
There's no real proof of Maggy being his sister. The family photo only had Isaac, his mother, and his father, nothing in the polaroid collection has any indication of his sister dying, and Isaac gets the Maggy wig in a between-floor cutscene. Edmund also talked about Isaac having gender identity issues, so it really makes more sense than the sister theory.
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>>121670745
we're not in jaypee dummy
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>>121669593
His entire view of religion is fucked up, not just the holy part. Satan's out to get him, Jesus is out to get him, etc.
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>>121670615
>>121670660
THANKS BOYS
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>>121670892
I have the images right next to eachother and my eyesight is bad
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>>121670563
I've done it before, you can do it too
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>>121670942
WE FUCKING TOLD YOU FAGGOT
NEVER DOUBT US
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>>121669270
no it's because the angels lock Mega Satan behind the door. Two angels hold the key parts to prevent Satan from getting unlocked. Isaac kills the angels and gets Mega Satan out of jail himself. It wouldn't make any sense for the devil statues to contain key pieces because why would Satan lock himself in jail?
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>>121670942
Great job, anon
We're very proud
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>>121670989
>>121671058
me irl
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>>121670950

I wish to touch that tummy.
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>>121671085
Enjoy your new "item" all thanks to Edmund!
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>>121671087
I feel you, m8
I'm gonna have to get some Xration toddlercon after this
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>>121671054
To keep Isaac out
>>
DO YOU THINK ITS ALL A TROLL AND THE ACTUAL CONTENT HAS BEEN WITHHELD SO ITS LIKE AN ACTUAL EXPANSION PACK
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>>121671183
I honestly forgot this game even had it's shitty co-op until I looked up the Mega Satan unlocks
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>>121671087
>>121671217
>toddlercon impregnation
dammit isaac you're not supposed to be a sexy game
now I get a boner when I take damage as Lilith
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>>121671217
>I'm gonna have to get some Xration toddlercon
You sick fuck
http://exhentai.org/g/565691/2ba93d2ed6/
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>>121671303
Unless they released a test build of the game by accident instead of the whole thing, it being an accident is impossible.
>>
Can Angel shit get some damn buffs? How about

Blessed Floors

>Blessing of Knowledge
Floor size is decreased by one tier

>Blessing of Light
The floor has the effects of the treasure map and compass from the start

>Blessing on Singularity
Entire floor is just one path only diverging for special rooms
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>>121671393
They released a test build on purpose so they themselves wouldn't have to test.
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>>121671436
I don't care about blessings, I just want good curses.
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>>121671525

A good curse is an oxymoron. You want blessings.
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>>121671436
That'd work with the scrapped Evil and Good mechanic that was suppose to be in Rebirth

and then they never even bothered with it in Afterbirth
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Ed completely missed why curse of darkness was okay in Spelunky

In Spelunky, you're nearly blind without the torch that spawns at the entrance to a level. You're introduced to a new gameplay mechanic where you have to carry this torch alongside you, lighting up other torches and using it as a weapon to progress

Isaac's curse of darkness is "LOL SET GAMMA TO 150"
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>>121671624
No, I want a curse that makes the game harder without removing things.
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>>121671740

Oh like that. Well yeah.
>>
>>121671336
just because you don't have any friends doesn't mean the co-op is shit, anon
it's pretty fun
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>>121671670
I honestly think it only exists to show of their lighting engine.
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>for every OP item there needs to be a bad one, for every amazing secret room there needs to be a fuck you one
A literal quote from edmund, 2 hours ago
No wonder this game is shit
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>>121671670
I'm not so sure if making 90% of the screen entirely dark would work very well in a projectile-heavy game like isaac. Especially when you got fuckers that teleport all around the room shooting bullets at you.

Pic very related, fuck this guy.
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>>121671848
Lol who the fuck wants to get around your god damn computer monitor and watch you fucking close out of your 200 picture of furry porn so they can play some shitty co-op
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>>121671872

He's not wrong. Weighting risk and reward is important for the longevity of a game like Isaac, otherwise playing becomes a routine where you always do the same things because they pay out every time

That's how devil deals worked in WotL and Rebirth, and it's what Ed wanted to change (just a little) in Afterbirth
>>
>>121671872
I don't really disagree with him on that, since the shitty items have some really good synergies.

>Curse of the Tower, garbage normally, is game-breaking with Pyromaniac
>Isaac's Heart and Blood Rights, both shit normally, are game-breaking together
>Butterbean, useless normally, is great with broken remote
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>>121672090
this desu
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>>121672132
>Curse of the Tower, garbage normally
Nah, chum.

Item's pretty decent a lot of the time.
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Lets make new Challenges everybody!
>"Goosebumps"
>Rooms are completely pitch black
>Fire and blood/poison trails glow and light up some spaces
>Start with nightlight and pj's as Isaac
>Have to beat Satan
>Item rooms are available
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>>121672132
If only there weren't mounds of unconditionally shitty meme items like obsessed fan and lil gurdy with no potential for meaningful synergy
Not to mention the chances of getting wombo combo synergies with shit items in the first place is incredibly small. I wish they were at least fun to use, but they're almost always just shit
>>
>>121672504

>Lil Gurdy
>Bad

Opinion discarded
>>
>>121672504
>Lil' Gurdy
>shit
Please.
>>
>>121671740
Curse of Strength
Adds more champion enemies to the floor.
>>
>>121672639
>>121672667
not that guy but Lil Gurdy does barely does dmg and is practically impossible to aim. One of those is ok, both is reroll territory.
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>>121671670
Spelunky Curse of Darkness has rewards, as well
>>
>>121672667
>>121672639
Not him, but I'm curious as to what makes lil gurdy good?
>>
>>121672820
He's a lil familiar that you can aim and he will slide into them. Of course like gurdy he will slow down at the end of his slide while still doing massive damage to who ever is unlucky enough to be touching him
>>
>>121672370
Poppo mod for Isaac when?
>>
>>121672820

>Has piercing, can demolish clustered groups of enemies
>Rebounds back to hit potentially 6+ times
>Does damage every other tick
>>
>>121672786
>>121672820
Little Gurdy isn't a top-tier item by any means, but it also isn't a bottom-tier item. I would put it right around the middle.

Its damage is pretty decent, but seems lower than it actually is if he goes through enemies too fast. He's also really good for crowd control, especially with the yellow/pink flies or the enemies Hush/Ultra Greed spawn.
>>
So are there any plans for more expansions for Isaac? I know it's too early since Afterbirth just released but i'm just curious. Not just expand the gameplay but the story as well.
>>
>>121673117
They said they didn't have any plans for any more. But they also said that about Rebirth.
>>
>>121673117

There's going to be some sort of modding patch/DLC some time next year that'll allow people to make their own Isaac rooms/floors like Mario Maker, and also introduce lua scripting
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>>121673117
What would another isaac expansion even be called? Stillbirth?
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>spend 2 hours each resetting for BRAINS and SPEED! challenges
>win the Guardian challenge on my second try by getting the Book of Shadows
what
>>
>>121672370
Satellite Orbit
Start with Gnawed Leaf + Meat Cube, no tears, all items in treasure rooms are orbitals.
>>
>>121673243
Unbirth
>>
>>121673268

Are you resetting for specific items?
>>
>>121672370
That seed where Isaac has to always be moving or he takes damage? That.
>>
>>121673243

Miscarriage
>>
>>121673243
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth
Assault of the Aborted
>>
>>121673412
For Speed, absolutely; anything that isn't Mom's Knife, Death's Touch, Holy Mantle, or a few other amazing items that never fucking appear just guarantee a bust

For Brains, considering there are no item rooms, that would be kind of stupid
>>
>>121673559
now this one can work

go hit edmund up on twitter anon
>>
>Steven and Greed Head out of the same challenge room
This is gonna be a good run
>>
How do I compile the HUD? I'm a complete tech retard.
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>most of the content i have left to unlock revolves around playing this shit

JUST
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Why am I spawning spiders?
>>
>>121674305
trinket
>>
>>121674305
Trinket
>>
>>121674305
Your trinket sometimes spawns spiders when you hit an enemy with your tears
>>
Does marked let you fire a constant brimstone?
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>>121674425
>>121674436
>>121674451
neat
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>>121674567
Allow me to make a well-educated guess.

Two possibilities exist:
1. The two do not synergize at all and Marked is overwritten by Brimstone entirely
2. Isaac is permanently put into a charging-up state and is no longer able to fire tears

The outcome that you suggested would be considered "fun," which has been outlawed since October 30th, 2015.
>>
>>121674567

I had both once and it didn't
>>
>>121674567
>Marked icon is just recolored Zodiac
pls no
>>
Any way to fix the hush door crash?
>>
>>121674567
you fucking wish

but if you have ipecac? you can definitely fire constant poison bombs that will fucking murder you

this game doesn't allow fun
>>
>>121674003

That's what eve looks like for me, fuck that bitch
>>
>>121675135
>Ipecac run
>Picked up Soymilk from curse of the blind
>Do
>No
>Damage
>To enemies, but take a full heart if I accidentally an ipecac in my face
>See Marked
>Oh cool, item I haven't gotten yet
>OH GOD THE ROOM IS EXPLOSIONS
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>>121675127

By buying the game :^)
>>
>>121675127
uninstall the game
no game
no hush
no crash
>>
>just got epic fetus as the lost

this should be interesting, or i die in the next room

or maybe i get lucky and find explosion immunity, but then i'd be eating my steak way too fast
>>
To unlock the achievements you get for completing a character's post-it note, does it all have to be done in hard mode?
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>>121675609
>epic fetus without mouse support
Does afterbirth still have that config value lying around that made EF work with the mouse? Would it work with marked?
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>spider jumps across the room and slam dunks me as soon as it spawns

how the FUCK is this balanced
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>>121676171
those jumping spiders are pure bullshit.

one of the very few enemies that I will call that.
>>
>>121663123

>glass cannon setup is here to stay

RIP

>Judas nerf is here to stay

Fucking RIP.

What was even the point of nerfing him a year after release? Been chewing that steak for a year Edmund, don't give me that shit.
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>>121676171
Don't stop moving. Just keep moving around them in a large circle. If they start to jump and dunk on you then you better be moving to the side or you will get hit.
>>
>Watch NL attempt the Speed challenge
>He gets legitimately mad as fuck

I want more raging NL
>>
>>121676738
Watch his long war playthrough. That game is utter bullshit and you see him experience the brunt of it.
>>
>>121676738
Can't say I blame him. SPEED! is fucking bullshit
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Won run.
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>>121677151
>box costs 4 now

Thats cute.
>>
>>121676923
>>121676738
http://strawpoll.me/5910961
I don't understand how more people hate Guardian than Speed
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>>121673831
so retarded you downloaded the source instead of the latest release
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>>121677287
Because I died at least a dozen times to the guardian because my buddy kept walking into things. It felt like all the damage I took in that challenge was un-preventable.

In Speed! I just restarted until I got Epic Fetus and collected my free win.
>>
>>121677570
>>121677570
>>121677570
>>
>Get to Hush with a Mom's Knife + Double Vision + Tech X + Guppy, but only like 4 hearts and no defenses at all
>Get super close but die because his fucking laser tornadoes are faster than me because of a speed down pill I got like three floors ago
>I have 10 lives from an Ankh and 9 Lives
>Almost get it a bunch of times, but choke even on my last life where I'm Blue Baby and have 3 hearts instead of just 1
Fuck. That was depressing. Especially since I already beat this fucker once as the Lost
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>>121664901
Nicalis happened
>>
>>121675425
I did buy the game faggot
I bought it day 1
>>
>>121671087
>>121671217
Beat her

Feed her hate

Watch her grow with the gestation of demonic horrors
>>
>>121673393
>Getting unbirthed by Lilith
>>
>>121674003
>Immaculate Conception never

It would work well with her Yum Heart if they bothered to synergize her well enough
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