Giant Extreme Robots General /gerg/

First for maskirovka is meme but not meme. Let us meme plus or else XD tbfh senpai desu~

New /gerg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Installer + Gamespy fix:
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php?topic=19022.0
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,20422.0.html

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

HAWKEN LIVES! REJOICE! Maybe?:
https://www.playhawken.com/

Heavy Gear Assault:
http://www.heavygear.com/

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://www.bombdogstudios.com/index.php/blog/

MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/

New Player's Guide to MWO:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit

November Road Map:
http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/213255-november-road-map/

Get your Toilets here:
https://mwomercs.com/origins

A step in the right direction:
http://mwomercs.com/news/2015/09/1344-2015-customer-appreciation-rewards-program

MWO CW Map Viewer:
http://www.norrisdev.com/mwocw/

Kong PodKast #25: Heavy Gear Stuff
http://kongkast.libsyn.com/kong-kast-25-gear-bays-black-market-and-pets-oh-my

MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab

MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/

Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg

Mumble Info:
Kong Mumble: kong-interstellar.typefrag.com
Port: 8270

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tfw you take your Raven into higher class Solaris VII matches and still win

what's your favourite Battletech 'mech, /gerg/?

>>121434378
Centurion or Enforcer

Where did the Rifleman info come from people? The last guy who asked didn't get a response. It was also mentioned that the Archer concept was already done, I'd like to hear/read that source myself.

Where's my fucking Phoenix Hawk?

>>121434378
Sometimes I forget how bad MW4 looked. Literally worse presentation than MW3.

>>121435014
Russ's twitter

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>>121435391
Thanks, I am social media inept but I can check it.

Have a FUUUUCKING IIIIIIIIIMP

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>>121434378
Centurion or Atlas for IS

Clans, its Either Thor or Timberwolf.

also, any tips for how I can improve my Poor Man Thunderbolt?

You know I just realized how huge those Neo-Rifleman arms are. Easier to shoot off than the Jagermech's but has potential for fantastic shielding, especially if you can keep the mech's lower half behind cover. The torso laser mounts are also higher up relative to the Jagermech's waist mounts, although that tall radar antenna is going to be a bullet magnet.

I can really see IS XL engines working with the new mech, especially if short exposure weapons like PPCs are used.

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>>121435014
MW3 had better textures on mechs and objects, but models were lacking poly count due to it being a 1999 game. MW4 improved on the models but I agree it's not a pretty game, very muddy texture quality.


Also, no hardpoint limit as long as you've got space, lol. Am I meta yet?

>>121435727
this is just my opinion since I like SRMs a lot but remove the MGs and AMS stuff and add another SRM 6, have 4 tons of SRM ammo in the legs and take away the CASE. I forget if 9S has jumpjets but if it does throw some in with the extra tonnage.

Alternatively if you only want one SRM change all the MLs to MPLs. Either way you're going to be focusing on brawling and the AMS are a bad idea.

>>121437619
MW4 released not very long after MW3, and at that point the texture quality is still what mattered the most because computers of the time were still only able to produce potato graphics. The extremely bad textures and art direction is what makes MW4 mechs look like cheap toys while MW3 robutts are pleasant to look at even today.

The most funmeta mech I've found was taking an EXE and loading it with as many LBX20s and ERLLs as possible. It was one of the few configs that could reliably cause an assault mech to fall over, specifically by targeting the legs.

>>121437619
Sounds good to me.

I do wish this game had an AI Mode for Training where we could test builds... that would be nice.

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>more unseen.
>still no phase #3 CW.
>still no new game mode.
>Mordor still in rotation.

Same old piggy, different year.

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When will MWO have cute girls?

>>121444042
>butchered, mindless cyborg forcefully integrated with alien technology
>mutilated and genetically modified into abnormal state
>HURR DURR IT AM CUTE GIRL PLZ LOOK AT TITTY!

I swear you nerds on 4chan need some purpose in your life.

>>121444901
>Implying you still wouldn't fuck that

>>121445296
No, I wouldn't. I'm not someone so desperate for interaction with the opposite sex that I will fantasize about fucking everything with a pair of breasts or a vagina.

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>>121435727
Holy shit nigger use smurfy. Put the ammo in the legs, head, and arms, and don't use CASE. This picture is your friend, it tells you how ammo is spent in order from each section of your 'mech.

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>>121445482

>>121445482
Stay mad Haruko that no one wants your washboard body anymore

BTFO
T
F
O

>>121446048
Washboard bodies only work if the girl in question is willing to wear long twintails.

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>>121445482

>I'm not someone so desperate for interaction with the opposite sex that I will fantasize about fucking everything with a pair of breasts or a vagina.

>everything

No, no, no. Just fantasize about the nice ones.

Rifleman variants seem to be easy to predict.

Base RFL-3N for standard model
RFL-3C possibly with inflated hardpoints is the ballistic-focused model, probably worst unless quirks are huge
RFL-5D for all energy variant, 4D is redundant
RFL-5M is just an expensive advanced-tech version of the 3N, an alternative that could take the place of the 3C, but unlikely because the 5M has >no ammo
Legend Killer for Hero mech, but what would the special hardpoint set be?

>>121446883

Isn't legend-killer supposed to be a rifleman II, so the 80 ton version?

PGI will just make it some random ass 60 ton rifleman poptart shitmech, with quad ballistics in one arm, quad energy in the other, and a head missile.

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>>121447583

>multiple ballistic hardpoints in a sub 65 ton mech

>>121444042
>!
Why does MWO need wiafus? /vg/ has enough wiafu threads. Fuck off.

>>121447583
That is meant to be an in-canon rumor, which is kind of a stupid rumor because no-one wouldn't notice that the mech was mysteriously 20 tons heavier than normal. Selling a fully functional Rifleman II to a great house would have been enough to buy himself a small world and retire.

PGI doesn't really do that weird things with their new mechs (that they have to sell) so I don't see it having missiles ever. The Archer is next and they need to keep their E/B tin cans focused.

I'm thinking Legend Killer will have more ballistic slots than any other version so you can megagun it up, along with reverse speed quirks. Like, if this thing actually goes full speed backwards I will be laffin but it would be a very appropriate quirk to give it.

>>121435727
It has ERPPC and missile quirks.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=155&l=0d99adf8f538a65ef34c3be05f72b346f26e989f

Runs hot as fuck, can't think of anything else. Shit hardpoints. Probably better off just massing medium pulse lasers.

>>121448127
A single ERPPC for UAV popping isn't bad so as long as you have the self control to never fire it in close combat.

Alternatively screw big energy and go with this:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=155&l=7842bde6576d749358909ea06ad7c896a078c664

Drop ammo and/or armor for another heatsink if desired, have at least 2.5 tons of ammo for UAV popping on the side, XL build from here should be obvious if you don't mind dying often.

>>121448012
>Archer is next

So that would make 3 Inner Sphere heavies and 1 Inner Sphere medium.

That's fine and all, but... when are they going to take a look at clan mechs?

I'd like to see the Nova Cat in this. It's like a digitigrade black knight, with honking big guns.

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>>121448919

>That's fine and all, but... when are they going to take a look at clan mechs?

>clan mechs
>we have all the best and OP mechs in the game, but its not enough!!

>>121449107
Mist Lynx is a pile of shit, Ice Box is a pile of shit. Nobody even bothers with Adders of Kit Foxes.

>>121448919
>wanting a shitty laser boat in double ghost heat warrior: online

>>121448919
IICs are already coming Soon™. There is about enough content for another 4-5 interesting invasion mechs, then that's it for a long time. They're going to spread out the release of Clams a lot more while there are enough IS nostalgiamechs to milk for years.

They'll also definitely be making as many Unseen as they can for HBS to use in their game. They will have to come out as fast as possible so that HBS can confirm their place in the game with enough time to spare to insert and balance them. Some of these mechs may be low-quality models that get pushed out with minimum effort spent because only the most opaque rose-tinted glasses can protect people from the shittiness of mechs like the Wasp and Stinger.

Now, if a Stinger LAM would suddenly get announced, that would be something to get really excited about.

Tier 2 reached, took me a month from starting this game.

Did I get gud?

>>121455406

No.

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Ded.

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>>121446773
Cute!

>>121444901

back to /pol/, anti-pervert.

>>121456858
Well at least I'm on the same level as the rest of you guys now.

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newest member of the bad-decisions crew

>>121464863
Why does the summoner look so god damn ugly. It's like a garbage dumpster salvaged Hellbringer.

>>121449778
>>121449213
>>121448919
>>121449107
firemoth when?

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So if you could take any mech in the game and place it surgically wherever you want in the meta what would it be and where would it go.

I say anywhere in the meta because you may not want your cicada to be so high in tiers that you're considered a gross shameless metagamer for just playing one, or at the same time maybe you really like the Timber Wolf but don't want your accomplishments to be chalked up to the power of your mech.

Also this has to be a mech you'd actually pilot. You cant just say "put direwolves into the garbage" because you hate direwolves with a fiery passion

This change in the meta occurs via fucking magic, so it just happens. Maybe some hardpoints shift, maybe some hitboxes change, maybe the level is suddenly full of super low ceilings and you can say "boy oh boy I knew they put that belly gun on the cataphract for a reason"

its the one clan mech I absolutely love, just please give it endo steel and more than 3 hardpoints and I'd be so happy

>>121466939
With those really high arms firemoth would probably rock the meta pretty well

>>121467150
inb4 the laser hardpoints go in the shoulders or side torsos and the hands get ballistic/missiles.

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>>121467057

any news on the nova scale down?

I'm glad they removed terratherma from the map rotation.

>>121444901
>>butchered, mindless cyborg forcefully integrated with alien technology
>>mutilated and genetically modified into abnormal state
>>HURR DURR IT AM CUTE GIRL PLZ LOOK AT TITTY!
You ever play PREY? The mini boss fight where you have to kill his girlfriend was supposed to be sad, but ended up being incredibly awkward, and putting the ugly bitch out of her misery was so satisfying.

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I miss people getting properly angry in chats, why are Hawken players usually so nice?

Is MWO any good yet? Can I come back?

>>121467878
major improvements to non-cw, but the game still isn't quite up to snuff with closed beta.

>>121448919
...which one is the medium? All of the upcoming IS "Icons" are heavies.

>>121466939
None of their artists can save an abortion like that thing.

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>>121466939
About as likely as the Flea since they can't seem to figure out to just ignore the tabletop speed stats for Light Mechs with MASC, and considering it would need new animations and rigging for the overhead arms rather than just reusing animations from another Mech.

>>121471123
Maybe referring to the Phoenix Hawk?

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>>121471258
>implying you wouldn't give a big awkward hug to this lovable guy

>>121464863
Because the overly rounded cockpit butchers upper right, the lack of a shoulder missile launcher leaves the upper left feeling empty, and because yes the Thor is a pretty ugly POS that is an asymmetrical mess of different parts from other mechs.

>>121471762
That...

It literally looks like a retarded Mist Lynx. Like some asshole mechanic intentionally assembled the arms backwards and upside down.

I don't think there's a single artist on this planet that can salvage this design without drastically modifying the arms.

>>121471328
But they are completely ignoring the MASC speed rules at this moment.

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>>121448919
don't you mean 4 Inner sphere heavies?

>>121472407
As if the game doesn't have enough heavies already... the one weight class that only goes below 20% if the servers are down.

>>121473152
BV system incoming confirmed

IS got a lot of new heavies because they will now be able to have more tonnage on average in both public queue and CW

It is a good day to not be a test-tube bastard child

>>121472380
Maybe it's their current position at the time. Anyway it seemed on the forums that people are not wanting to deal with Mechs over 170kph since the netcode can't handle it.

>>121474374
There is a point to that argument. The faster an object moves, the more likely it becomes that the hit/ collision boxes tied to it get disconnected. What you might be seeing on your screen isn't there, it's actually a couple ms worth further off.

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>>121471762
>>121472370
Shit he's right. This is what happens when you try to assemble the Ikea furniture without the instructions.

How can you salvage the Nova omnimech? What possible build could it run that makes it capable of killing shit before it's fuckhumongous hitboxes ensure your demise?

>>121475357
Small lasers, small lasers, some more small lasers. Just a few extra small lasers to be sure. Make sure you're carrying two arm fulls of small lasers. Maybe an extra small laser, or two. A backup small laser in case your other small laser isn't enough. Small lasers in your small lasers. Some small lasers to taste. Maybe a heat sink.

If all else fails, just load it up with as many flamers and machine guns as you can.

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>>121472370
They would probably replace the fists with square laser barrels for maximum lego hillhumping meta.

What's a good choice for babby's first clan mech? I want to give one a serious try and I'm not very familiar with their meta besides what's at the very top and what's at the very bottom. I just want something nice and in the upper middle: Better than shit, better than unremarkable, something that's just kind of good without being goddamned amazing.

>>121476780
stormcrow

>>121476780
>something that's good without being amazing
...why?
Get yourself an EbinJag and run the 3 med laser, 3 UAC 5 build, or the 4med2LPL.

What is the "best" Model of Dire Wolf to shoot for?

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>>121476780
If you want to hedge your bets and save C-bills, go with the Hankyu.

>>121477215
I believe it's called an Arctic Cheetah.

>>121477141
W

>>121477356
Just ignore them its probably a certain southerner who calls all the clan mechs by their inner sphere name

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>>121477356
Not according to the DCMS.

>>121477870
Rattled Daishi?

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How is he any different from Kaelus?

>>121479417
You just now figured this out? Hes the kaelus of MWO

>>121479417
Nice post kakos

>>121479651
I see, that does make a lot of sense.

>>121474374
>>121474513
It can be mildly remedied by making it a diminishing scale as weight goes down or as raw speed increases, or both. It is not too difficult to create a simple exponential formula where the bonus from MASC decreases as the top speed increases so that it always softcaps below the netcode limits. The baseline should be at least about 25-26% for most mechs though, that's the range needed to make the EXE go as fast as it is supposed to.

So, I've been trying to figure out how Damage is done between Normal Lasers and Pulse.

Is it damage over time for Large Lasers, while Pulse do it up front for each pulse that hits?

>>121480569
Pulse does dmg in ticks and not continuously like normal lasers
I am not certain about this

>>121481054
All weapons deal damage in ticks, it is not programmatically possible for a laser to do damage perfectly continuously.

>>121480569
Pulse lasers should apply damage per pulse. Number of damage ticks per standard laser is unknown, nor whether the number of ticks vary with beam duration, laser size and/or quirks.

Really don't see how it would make much of a difference though. You still need to hold that pulse laser steady all the same.

>>121481571
Alright, just when I've played with either I can never figure out how much damage I'm doing but I guess either way is pointless because of that fact.

>>121481571
Can you not see the ticks when shooting snow?
Or are those different?

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Sound the horn.

>>121482045
Those are just graphics. Pulse lasers and lasers work exactly the same, they just look different.

>>121483763
So THAT'S why I see people suddenly burst into an explosion after my pulse lasers have stopped firing!

Oh wow, and here I thought the game was consistent.

>>121484195
Maybe those are ammo explosions?

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>Pizza and dudebutt are literally having gay sex as we speak

>>121484195
...what? Nothing what you said makes any sense.

>>121475357
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=179&l=b1ac595c9b07ff5185d3674eca9f97b1b33aee82

>>121484685

I didn't think they were both in Texas.

>>121486656
Dudebooty is or was in Seattle getting a dude in his booty

>>121488729

RIP.

>>121473358
brewing like a case of the taco bell shits

>Classic IS COLLECTION

Which one is next?

>>121497625
We already know the answer to this question, it's the Archer next.

Then after that it'll probably be another run of IIC's. Hopefully with the Wolverine IIC, aka the Conjurer, aka Hellhound, hopefully the MW4 redesign.

Then hopefully, maybe, someday, the Bushwaker.

Now shut up, and grab deal.

I hate having to wait for a game to end to get my chosen mech out.

Especially if you're an assault mech that gets singled out by the entire team simply because you can't get a 68km/h+ capable engine on it, because nascar niggery is more important than team cohesion these days.

>>121479417
He is Dutch

>entire thread for the Rifleman is people bitching that they are refusing to buy it till PGI comes through on major changes in the game
Ahahahahaha

>>121500627

then pgi just puts out the bushwaker and everyone forgets why they were mad

Marauder: December
Warhammer: January
Rifleman: February
Archer: March
Probably another in April.
At this rate, we're looking at one new mech a month for all of 2016 leading into the release of Battletech in Q1 2017.

Make your predictions now.

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Guys what game is this?

>>121501795
MW5, January 16th 2016

>>121501795
the one that could have been
the progenitor of mwo
the true vision

>>121501795
what the fug are those things on the shoulder? PPCs? they look like floodlights

>>121501795
>>121502024
Then Harmony Gold FUCKED IT UP.

>>121502141
They are floodlights

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>>121501730
remember back in 2013 when we got a new mech every month?
It's gonna be like that but in a longer span of time for release/cbill availability

>>121498064
>Archer

I can sense the copy-paste coming.

That thing will most definitely be a mish-mash of warhammer legs and rifleman torso, with upper arms from the marauder. Only thing "new" might be the forearms and hands.

>>121502184
>game designers are unimaginative cunts that can't come up with an original idea
>from the depths of their basements they plot to rehash some Jap anime they don't own
>buy rights to it from dirty chink liars
>American company in charge of product distribution of Nip cartoon miraculously doesn't catch wind of this for 10 years
>BT fans forever angry at the company that actually owns the rights to their shit

BT shot itself in the foot at birth.

>>121503179
That is true, but still, it was Harmony Gold that basically put the Ki-bosh on the Progenitor.

>>121503345
Yeah, well. We have a second shot at it now.

>>121504351
Considering the Redesign, I think that will be less likely.

>>121504490
Why? The redesign looks better.

>>121504824
Exactly my point, there is no way HG Can say its there design!

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https://mwomercs.com/rifleman

>mfw 290 engine max

>>121505531
Try "their" cowboy.

>>121506230
What's wrong with 78kph?
Oh? Will the big bad Clan heavies outpace 'em in the NASCAR meta? gg rip

>>121506716
>60 tonner running below 89.1
>60 tonners running below 100

no sir I don't like it, 60 tonners are for going fast or dying. With those hardpoints it's never gonna outdo the Jagermech at anything relevant, at least it could have gone faster than it.

>>121506716
Yeah, I meant "their", didn't realize I made that mistake til after I commented, still point stands.

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>>121498064
The final nail in the coffin is when they are starving for gold men money to make the Dasher then the Flea, considering Russ said there was supposedly nobody that would buy a 20 ton Mech to hide their lack of MASC programming ability.

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>>121501795
That's the second version of MechWarrior 5.

>>121507060
Even if they played by the rules they supposedly laid out the max engine rating would be a 345, and still only clock in at 93.1.
That's still drastically better than 78.3, granted, but it would mean carrying nothing for weapons.

It can't outdo the Jagermech by design. That's literally the whole point, even canonically to the lore sadly.

>>121507060
this, it's the only reason I find any excuse to play Quickdraws. going over 100kph in a heavy is what makes 60 ton shitmechs worth playing, without that there is no point.

i fully expect these to be another batch of DOA shitmechs.

SRM brawler when?

>>121508105
If it used a 345 it would go 102.5kph

You're not factoring in speed tweak you pleb

>>121508293
Enjoy your IV-4 being better than something :^)

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>>121508486
>You're not factoring in speed tweak you pleb
Sombitch you're right. I fuged up, pls forgiv

STILL. That would mean that a standard engine would weigh more than half as much as the mech itself, so your only option would be an XL with Endo. No idea how much tonnage or space that leaves, I'd have to write it out.

>>121508925
Plenty if you're okay with dual AC5 being virtually all you're armed with

>>121509204
Actually you could probably get away with more than that even... maybe even have 4 medium lasers as backup.

>>121508486
The IV4 is one of the strongest IS shitmechs around Harakek, +60% AC/5 firing rate is retarded enough to carry any chassis. Truly the quickest draw in the inner sphere.

So is anyone going to point out on the forums that its max engine rating is too small, or should we just laugh at anyone that buys it to be a shittier Jager?

>>121509536
If you're running it symmetrically as a few of those variants are forced to do you're not gonna end up with much left to throw on any amount of MLs. Not with our theoretical 345XL that is.

You get 7t left, 8t if you take ferro as well and leave yourself 7 whole slots to put shit in it. 6t of that should be ammo so you're left with braces of small lasers, not medium lasers, largely.

Probably only ever going to see 3AC5 and 2Goose Riflemans at any rate

>>121509904
>Implying the Dragon 1N doesn't do AC5 spam better
inferior Cuickdraw go home

>>121510510
>>two arms
>>jumpjets

Enjoy being bound by gravity fagtron.

>>121506230
>Rifleman chassis, 60 tons.
>top speed 78.3 kph (86.1 kph with tweak) with maximum engine size of 290 .

>Jaegermech chassis, 65 tons.
>top speed 78.5 kph (86.4 kph with tweak) with maximum engine size of 315.

So the rifleman is a larger blackjack, but can't do the laser vomit/ ballistics boat as well, but thankfully none of it's variants have the missile nonsense Jaegermechs do. It's worse than the non-missile jaegers, though.

>>121511884
The Firebrand has a magical max engine of 340. By this logic, the P2SuckPigDick Legend Killer should have the cap at 345.

>>121511339
okay char

ded

ayy liao

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neat, I played with some PGI people

>>121530312
Were they any good at the game?

>>121530438
actually yea. despite losing they did most of the work of the team

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Pay up goyim

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>>121532529

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I THINK I GOT MY SWAGGA BACK

The dank wolf is a dakka boat the likes I'd been dreaming off. Stagger fire and the clan penchant for lots of smaller shot and you got a walking gatling gun. Love my little danky.

What's a good "tiny bastard with an ECM and an ERLL/ERPPC" mech?

I'm really enjoying the trial raven and I actually score fairly well with it (plus I've currently got 20,000xp on it I can't use) so I'm biased towards ravens. But I also see a lot of arctic cheetahs running around (and they also have pretty top slung weapons) plus there's a few other mechs that fit the bill (not a fan of spider thus far)

>>121530312
>>PGI fagtron playing in an IV4

I don't know how to feel about this

>>121535604
>tiny bastard
Arctic Cheater
>ECM
Arctic Cheater
>ERLL/ERPPC
Fuck that because it is crazy ineffective nowadays. If you are small you must go fast and carry 9 small laser and literally assassinate people from behind before they can even react.

Plus you get JJ's and can slaughter any other light that isn't another Arctic Cheater.

Buy an Arctic Cheater.

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This seems like a good idea.

>>121536638
It's not.

>>121536880
You were right

>>121537967
Try UAC 10's and 5's instead. Also, it's not really all that viable, but the sound of two LB20X's going off at the same time makes me hard.

>>121538183
Fiddling with dual UAC10/20

>>121506230
Oh hey, looks like I predicted the variants and their loadouts to a tee. Didn't actually expect the Legend Killer to LOSE energy hardpoints to get megagun mounts though.

I'm sure everyone will be clamoring for an increase to a 300 engine max rating now on the forums. It worked for the bounty hunter Marauder, it'll work for this one. I mean, the 5D is a meta-class energy boat. 290 does not cut it for doubles space.

>>121532529
What's up with all the good looking shitmechs they keep making?

Pls piggy. Pls for the love of God stop at the Archer. Don't add the other useless weeb shit that no body actually wants.

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d e d

>>121555570
But I want to know how loose and sloppy dudebutt left pizzas asshole

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hey guys, we can all go to bed now

BHAHAHAHAHAHA! I just shot a PGI representative named Nicholson in the face with dual AC20's and two-shot him!

Mauler MAL-MX90 is awesome.

>>121561084
what's that, an AC/20 and MAL-MX90 nerf on the way I hear?

>>121561383
You damn right. Better nerf the guns because you can't nerf this sexy beast.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH6nCwq9RuI

>hey, guys, you know what will make the fans happy with us again? Diversify Kyo's moves further, and add Chang back in!

>>121561947
Vass this is huckest come play fighting games with me

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>>121561975

>videogames.
>9 am.

>>121562303
karn and I were playing NWN until just now fag

>>121562386
Literally who?

>>121467878
>tfw I don't even recognize the player names anymore
I guess they all quit...?

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taking out the trash in the underhive

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These Double Digits memes

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RIP Connor Atlas

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Double Digits

>>121568117

Typical gold scores.

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Ian in charge of killing himself

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http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/214114-2000-a-year-for-a-game/

These fucking whales with their 1500+ dollars spent on the game just quitting. It's been awhile since I visited the asylum, but I don't remember it being this dead and full of rage.

WHY IS THE ICE FERRET SO GOD DAMN BAD?!

>Center torso has energy hardpoint on most variants, can barely become a 5x laser boat with those
>two variants don't have anything in the center torso, just an empty space
>45 tons, max armour values, same as a shadowcat, but a shadow cat gets to 29 tons when you strip all equipment off, whereas a ice faggot goes to 36.
>no jump jet capability
>no ECM capability
>literally the best you can do is laserboat with it.
>45 ton mech running at 142,5 kph, with no firepower, and little to no survivability

What the fuck is the point of this thing? Too big to do small laser harassment, too heavy to wield actual WEAPONS.

If I want to play a hit and run faggot, I'll pick a wolfhound, an arctic cheetah or a firestarter to boat more weapons and still be more survivable thanks to smaller profile!

>>121569695
>people spending 80$ a month on this game

Wow. And here I thought my $60 bucks invested into this game was too much for my wallet.

>>121570406
I'll admit i spend an average of about $30 a month on video games, but it's usually a different game each month, If i'm hooked i'll repeat but that's a little rare these days.

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>>121570406

Battletech lore.

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>>121570406
>Ice Ferret being bad

Maybe the problem is you and not the Ice Ferret

>>121571690
The piece of shit could be salvaged with proper perks like IS mechs have, but NOOOOO... instead it's a walking icebox of failure and disappointment, that loses to a light mech that's 10 tons lighter, yet packs more firepower, jetpacks AND electronic countermeasures to boot!

>>121572929
Oh please, go ahead, show me a "good build" for that frozen turd.

I'll wait.

Oh but you can't, can you? You're just a shitposting kong cunt.

>>121573071

>shitposting kong cunt

one of these words is superfluous, and it's not the first one

>>121572929
The Ice Ferret is bad for clan standards, even the Klords agree.

>>121573124
I'm calling him a double nigger, isn't that obvious?

>>121573071
And you are a turbo mad shitter

>>121573173
Good job proving him right.

>>121573168

fair point.

Does anyone know if there is a way to massage weapons into certain body parts in Mechcommander? I found that the classic Warhammer config can be recreated on Loki-Ws but the game keeps throwing both PPCs into one arm. Is there a specific, consistently-doable load order for equipment to force things into certain parts?

>>121573507

Use your tongue.

>>121573507
Why do you need the weapons to be in specific parts

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>there are forumgolds white knighting Russ.
>there's a small, tight-knit group of omega level spenders crying that the pig tore out the laser infotech bullshit.
>all classic white knights are somehow on vacation while this is going on.

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Gold man charts his MC purchases to explain to PGI why their ideas are bad, and he's refunding his unseen robot grab deals.

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Even the richest fun deposit will eventually run dry.

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>5000 euros.

>>121573853
So it looks nicer and also for practical reasons. When one arm gets blown off I will lose both CERPPCs at the same time, which can be some real bullshit once I start up a Hard campaign. The stock mech configs already come with correct weapon placements so it is stupid if there is no way to replicate it.

>>121570406
>2 damages arctic cheetahs, both with either no armour or armour in the orange on center and side torsos
>one untouched ice ferret
>arctic cheetahs, despite being retards and standing still or jetpacking to shoot survive longer than an average medium mech
>ice ferret just barely kills both while losing one leg and center torso going into the red

FAIR AND BALANCED - THE PGI WAY.

I'm going to feed the pig so they might actually make a neat singleplayer campaign. I am so sorry.

>>121576957
Just make sure you're buying things that are worth the money, like mechbays. Christmas sales are practically guaranteed, so if your purchase isn't urgent just hold out until then.

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>>121576957

They already made several top tier singleplayer games.

Western theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYBYMCRdtUE

North korea WWIII theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFTV1viwuvM#t=13

A VERY original shooter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBZ57_DzVH4

Open world sandbox, where you commit grand theft of autos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXbEY4GESfQ

A critical success: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Wlj3SuNfY&feature=youtu.be&

>>121577026
Different anon, but I've been looking at getting some clan mechs. Problem is, the clan mech pack is fucking ludicrously expensive, and I don't want to spend 200 dollars just to get two mechs I like (timber wolf, stormcrow).

So I was looking at this "a la carte" thing. Is it worth it, if you just want two mechs from the pack, or should I wait until the possible black friday/ christmas sales and then purchase one or two of them separately? I admit liking the prospect of a clan mech with a 30% cbill boost, since they can be configured however you like.

>>121577026

I'm going to buy Riflemen

>>121579463
Did you already get the Marauder and Warhammer? Three of them is just way too excessive for me, so I'll sit this one out for now. They're gonna burn people out if they announce the Archer next month, too much tonnage in too short a time. The P. Hawk would be a much more sensible choice but they've unfortunately already confirmed the former.

>>121580971

Nah man I spent all of my extra cash last month on Battletech.

>>121581028
I spent my money on Battletech too, just the $50 package. So I guess I'm actually worse with money than you are, not that I spent it on much else anyway.

>>121576953
Maximum Mad

Guys is the Ice Ferret worth buying?

>>121583901
Nope.

If you want something that laserboats like the ice ferret, get the arctic cheetah. More survivable, can get ECM and jumpjets.

>>121581069

It was brilliant of PGI to give their mech models and art to HBS. Now I have to feed the pig since they're basically HBS's glorified mech development studio.

>>121584332
What about the Shadowcat?

>>121588115
literal shit

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>page 10 meme.

>>121588115
Shadow cat is great for long range sniping roles. Like, really really good.

It's got powerful jump jets that allow it to get to places like on top of the walls on HPG manifold, it's got ECM to make it's presence unknown until you want to strike, and you can load it up in a few different ways. It's primarily a longer range fire support and flanker kind of medium mech, so it can't go head-to-head with the brawlers like the Stormcrow and Nova and expect to survive. MASC and jump jets does allow it to quickly get the fuck out of a bad spot though.

That said, I run four different builds with the Shadowcat:

>2x clan ER PPCs, 1x clan ER ML, ECM and targeting comp mark 1, 2x double heatsinks. Runs hot, but it's entire forte is to poptart and hit and run.

>3x clan ER LLs (fired in sequence), ECM, 3x double heatsinks. You can either alpha for some notable sniper damage, or you can risk longer exposure times for heat management. This build is very versatile.

>3x clan S-SRM 6s, 2x clan ER MLs, ECM, clan active probe, 3 tons of S-SRM ammo. Pseudo-stormcrow, this build hunts lights and mediums. Medium lasers for taking off the armour on legs and the streaker missiles blow them off.

>2x LRM15s, 3x clan ER MLs, ECM, active probe, 3 tons LRM ammo, active heatsink. Fire support both close and far, and thanks to active probe you can use the LRMs at closer ranges due to guaranteed locking.

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>>121590776

>shadowcat.
>good at anything.

Stop tricking tier 3 scrubs.

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>>121591364
>Vass
>good at anything.
Stop tricking yourself.

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>>121591543

>imblying.

Should i get a Rifleman pack or buy Fallout 4?

>>121593971
Hm, what a tough choice. Feed the pig, but get something you'll get fun out of forcefully, or feed the monstrosity that is bethesda, and get cancerous minority and feminist propaganda shoved down your throat?

Waste 20-35 dollars, or waste 60 dollars?

>>121594124
The top tier rifleman pack is 55 dollars

>>121593971
I don't think I could recommend spending money on Mechwarrior Online

>>121594236
Why would you bother with 30 extra days of premium time, 2x horns, 2x standing items, 2x hanging items and an extra title and badge for a +30% cbill boost version of the default variant, when you could just save yourself the trouble and get the hero version that is both different, AND has +30% cbill boost on it?

>>121594265
I don't think I could recommend breathing cyanide gas, but you do it anyway.

>>121593971

Get a Rifleman pack. Don't give Todd Howard a single fucking dime.

>>121594559
Alright but the hero rifleman hardpoints seems to be subpar compared to the RFL-3N (S)

Maybe i should not get the hero add on but only the collectors pack

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Meanwhile, in Boston

>>121597436
The Hero is straight up inferior unless it gets outstanding quirks. Basically the same thing with the Black Widow.

>>121598308
Why did they chose this hero variant?

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>>121593971
Rifleman won't be available for another 3 months.

So what new stuff will be released in november?

>>121604714
Possibly the last PTS balance pass test before December finalization.
Drop ships will drop you into the start of all maps.
Client fixes.
That's really it.

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>this is a Locust

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>>121606559

>this is a Locust

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>>121606803

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>>121607148

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>>121608241

advanced bug posting itt

>>121608684
You stopped it right before we got to the Flea. Thanks Russ.

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>>121608494

>>121607148
>hopping mad
Literally reddit

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>>121609608
Le Steiner scout mech maymay

>>121610962
>>gregs_virtual_reality_avatar_plays_mechwarrior.png

>>121608494
>g2gfst

Ha!

>>121618570
Damn, that was really subtle. Nice catch.

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>>121609608

>>121610421
>you will never have a right arm like the Zeus concept art has

>Map voting
>Sweet no more Terra Therma ever
>Apparently no one likes Bog either
Well that's sad

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>>121626130
>map voting screen
>everyone votes for alpine or canyon network
I hate my team

>tfw you hang out with dudebot and all he does is buy you dinner and give you lively bants

Overall v. pleasant

>>tfw anal virgin forever

why even live

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>>121631019
>tfw was gonna go out and drink/eat food with doodboot on halloween but the faggot pulled a haruko and didn't want to go anywhere

ded

>>121638190
The Black Knight is terrible.
Oh jesus god why, why did I buy this mech?
Why is it so tall and squishy as fuck?

>>121638190

you keep fucking doing this to resurrect the thread, you cunt. stop it. let it die. nobody's interested.

>>121638342
no

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Halloween might be over but I'm still being spooked by PGI

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The impossible CAN happen.

>HGA leaves NDA

is it worth getting into now?

>>121646467
pffft

no

>>121631019
>>121631718
>tfw no kongers near you

I just want to play some TT robutts with you all

>>121646594
elaborate

is it better or worse than hawken?

>>121645750
>you voted for Conquest and terra therma
You sicken me

>saturday night
>/gerg/ doing nothing

/ss13g/ has a stream up with robot movies
http://connectcast.tv/Orzorn

Robot Jox on now, followed by Patlabor, and Gundam Wing Endless Waltz.

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So many shurikens to identify, so little time.

>tfw every other drop is a cluster of OUYA stars.

>>121649281
wtf is this weeb shit?

>>121646902
It's better than Hawken where gameplay is concerned but you may want to hold off for a bit and keep an eye on the HGA forum for the next update. They are in the process of a significant engine upgrade and working on improving the netcode as well as adding several new features before announcing the second tournament. You can check on the overall progress in this section with the producer updates.

http://forums.heavygear.com/index.php?p=/categories/from-the-devs

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>>121651798

Neverwinter nights.

current build
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=16&l=20df02290376e0baac225a0055fd8b99b3500e00

upgrade?
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=16&l=e6ea82bf4bc906d9c67870314f51eb37037bf577

any thoughts? Is artemis worth it? I kinda like the large lasers

>>121653780
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=16&l=dda979f5d7dd4a8da758dcb8a87e9299abe99451

>>121654603
I already know that the build needs 6 double heatsinks, 5 is going to overheat too much

>>121654810
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=16&l=3e5e16be880f4040f05f07a8cacc7e02d8f9e6e5

>>121653780
also with the "upgrade" I know I get a whopping 2 damage extra with medium lasers but their 270 range means that anything past that I will be doing more damage with 2 large lasers. So while attacking someone at the 300-450m range with my AC/20 I'd do much better with 2 LLs to support, MLs would be shit at that range.

So this really comes down to is the artemis on SRM 6s worth it, because if not I'm keeping the first build.

What do I all get for joining a faction and taking place in those battles? Are there different rewards? Is it just the same but different battles? Do I at least get paint other than green?

>>121656341
you can buy a few other cheapo colors for 2 million cbills each but all the nice ones cost mc or come for free with mech packs

>>121656757
>come for free with mech packs

you mean the price of the camo is bundled into the cost

Questions about Modules:
Can you move them from mech to mech?
Even if they're the same model of mech?
If you want to replace a module can you put it back in later for free or do you have to re-buy it?

I ask because I have a mech variant I'm not 100% sure if I'm keeping but I'll most likely keep at least one of them so I'm debating getting modules that might be useful

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>mfw even more random shuriken drops.

>>121659435

Modules are added and removed exactly like any other part. They are not permanently grafted on to a mech and you can take them off any time. Just make sure you don't accidentally sell a mech (and its parts) that has a module on it or the module gets sold too.

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>Tourmaline Desert
>Canyon Network
>Alpine Peaks
>Assault
>Assault
>Assault
>Skirmish
>this is all anyone votes for
>no more Bog
>no more City
>no more Forest

>>121669372
I don't fucking understand why anyone would willingly choose Alpine Peaks, which is easily the second worst fucking map in the whole game.

>>121671241
lurms

>>121671314
But even those suck on that map, because Alpine peaks is Hill humping: The map.

>>121669372
>>121671241
for some reason a few people that play this game really hate small maps and love roaming around aimlessly

i imagine these are the same people that play 3LL ravens

>>121673359
>game about 12 meter tall walking tanks
>hey guys lets make maps that cram them into paths and killboxes barely large enough for two side by side
>brilliant!

PGI logic

>>121676180

Minimally viable map design.

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86 dmg victor

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This Wolverine

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Kakos in charge of dying

>>121671241
It is a cold map and it is inherently biased against short-ranged mechs. Anyone who is using weapons with long-ish range would be smart to pick Alpine Peaks because it automatically invalidates any opponent who has a brawling build. It is a simple winning bet. Then again, the same rule applies to everyone in both teams.

>>121669372
Nobody picks City and Bog in your matchups? Everyone avoids Forest Colony 2.0 for sure though; that map is CW sized yet has the rough playing area of the original. I miss the original Forest Colony.

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Double Digit memes

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Double Digit memes part 2

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Nice Spider

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>>121685176

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Clothes

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Guys what mech should i get as my first mech?

>>121689059

That depends.

If you're a cool guy, get a Griffin.

If you're a massive cock guzzler, get a Stormcrow.

>>121689257
How about i just want to be a casual player?

>>121689059
Hellbringer, Stormcrow, Timber Wolf and Arctic Cheetah are the best 'Mechs in the game.

Pick one and get all your masteries for them.

>>121689595
Any good Innersphere mechs?
Clan mechs are kinda expensive

>>121690047
It's not all that bad. Clan mechs come with all upgrades you want and a set-in-stone engine which are by far the most expensive part about getting a new robot.

IS mechs need to upgrade to DHS (1,5 mil) and 96% of the time endo-steel which is another half million. Then on top of that you need various engine sizes depending on what build you're doing and XL engines for IS are extremely expensive.

With a clan robot the only thing you have to worry about are omnipods for different hardpoint setups (like 300k a pop and you probably only need 2-4 of them depending on the mech) and equipment/weapons.

IS mechs are generally just various degrees of questionable usefulness depending on quirks. And most of the time there's only 1-2 good variants for each 'Mech and you have to buy and play the shittier variants to unlock masteries/elite

Why you guys don't like Hawken? I tried it out and it's quite fun. I was worried, that I'll get destroyed, because I usually don't play competitive shooters and small dedicated communities can be very hardcore, but it worked out fine, I easily got into the game and I'm doing reasonably well. Less grindy and less P2W than MWO too.

>>121689257
It might be cool to be a Griffin pilot but it sure isn't fun. Most builds have to be short-ranged and that really sucks balls in the current state of the game.

Shadow Hawk to be an equally cool dude with less heartbreak. Wolverines for borderline un-coolios that can coast by with minimum effort.

>>121690748
>I was worried, that I'll get destroyed, because I usually don't play competitive shooters and small dedicated communities can be very hardcore, but it worked out fine,

You haven't played against the "very hardcore" part of the community yet. Wait until you get into a string of games where you lose 5 to 40 against an enemy team of almost all dodge-spamming Berserkers/Scouts/Infiltrators that are very difficult to hit because the game's movement and aiming restrictions are unintuitive as fuck for a game with a competitive pace.

Experience this, and then you will know why people don't like Hawken.

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>>121690748

It hasn't received an actual update in literally forever.
It won't receive an update in literally forever.
The new owners don't have a coder employed. They can't even fix problems.
They realized quickly that they'd been suckered into a bad deal. Hawken's technical debt is immense, and most of the game needs to be remade, put on better servers, voice chat has to be fixed, mechs need to be rebalanced, someone has to fix the spaghetti code issue where you can't ever for any reason change a robot's secondary weapon.
If you dare to point out that the game is a huge failure, their steam mods will BAN YOU WITHOUT GIVING A REASON. Niko Snow tier moderation.

The one thing they did was admit that hawken's design was ass, and the new player grind was legendary.

They took out the shitty CRT-recruit that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE LIKED OR WANTED and replaced it with a fully kitted out assault, which is like a CRT+2. It has almost the same stuff, but is better in every way. They put all the modules on it, max gear, and all weapon unlocks, with a good build, so any new players wouldn't get farmed too hard.

>>121696719
>someone has to fix the spaghetti code issue where you can't ever for any reason change a robot's secondary weapon.

Or not being able to modify weapons stats on one mech without changing that same weapon on every other mech.

Seriously, how does someone fuck up that bad? You're a free-to-play game that will inevitably fuck with balance because you need to make more mechs for more money, but you're literally unable to make balance tweaks? I don't even. Such a big screw-up could be worthy of a book!

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>>121697164

Their lead developer dude made an iphone game about santa shitting down chimneys.

He then felt it'd be a good idea to team up with the War Z developers on a rainbox six siege clone. Before rainbox six siege comes out!

I had some confessions by their secret squirrels. They were talking about how the devs were so stupid, they wanted to put all the founder mech skins in as free grind camos. They needed their playerbase to explain to them in very small words why this would be a shitty idea.

>>121697460
Interesting tidbits. The only thing I know about that shitting santa lead-dev guy is he's responsible for the huge mess that is the Technician class. He said something along the lines of "The Technician makes the game deeper" when he felt like he had to defend his decision from the player base's constant complaints. He really said that!

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Here's one of the squirrels talking about stuff before it was confirmed adhesive had gone bust.

>>121698330
The more I learn about behind-the-scenes stuff, the more baffling Hawken gets. Especially considering Hawken was actually promising at one point. I would think the game would've always been shit with devs like that!

>>121673359
As one of the fuckers in a raven I can say I hate alpine peaks. (Prefer Mining colony and especially Bog).

In dense maps you can scoot your lightly armored ass around 12 corners and avoid whatever killfucker just noticed you shooting him. In alpine peaks if something big crests the hill you're on you die because your nearest hiding place is 3 successor states away. Plus while the Laser are plenty fine on that map its really better for PPC/LRM spam (Or at least I have a really hard time focusing a lasers full burn at those kinds of distances)

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>>121698605

It's like MWO. Both games have good robot shooters at their core, but they've been covered in so many years of shit, it's hard to make out what it was supposed to be.

By the way, mister Big Rigs and War Z himself essentially fired the hawken devs, because they were too incompetent to make a cash-grab rainbox six clone, so now Vana spends 15+ hours a day playing CS: GO.

>>121699303
Nice blog

>Canyon Network
>5/5
>Nobody's moved for about 3 minutes
>Realize that our teams have effectively switched sides of the map
>Well okay I'm going to try and capture their base, worst case scenario maybe it'll bait a few of them out for my allies to shoot at
>Right when I start capturing 2 enemies die (soon enough that me capping couldn't have had anything to do with it)
>Allies start pushing
>Now too far away to provide assistance/score any points
Every goddamned time

Gargoyle is really fucking fun, an 80 ton assault mech going 81kph allows you to boat small lasers and still be really lethal thanks to your survivability.

It looks pretty good too, despite the invasion geometry having spurdo spärde face. I know it's supposed to look like the original art, but there's so much more they could have done to make the original look more intimidating than giving it a crooked kike nose and big puffy cheeks.

>>121705747
Your cap could have been enough to make certain enemies turn their backs and go for the cap point themselves. If your team was smart, that was the exact point where they decided to push.

They really need to put a big bonus score award for the first person to reach the base and a bonus just for reaching it.

>>121705120

He's got several years of experience of yelling at clouds by now.

>>121691742
>Wolverines for borderline un-coolios
>shaq for coolios

what

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>>121709964

I am literally a cloud fighting expert.

>>121710278
>what
ugly
easymeta

>>121710702

vass always gives a cutesy reply when hes called out on his bullshit

I just saw a clip from october 30th where sean "I suck political correctness like a thai lady-boy" lang reported some KONG member.

What a hugbox this community is turning into.

How are highlanders doing currently? I very rarely see them anymore (seems the only assaults I see at all anymore are clan and stalkers, even Atlases are becoming a rarity). I remember for a while at least they were near the top of the meta but I don't remember how long ago this was (prior to clan mechs at least)