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Dota 2 General Thread - /d2g/

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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: https://www.dota2.com/685/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/

Previous Thread: >>121388350
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do you guys think you play worse after you watch certain streams?
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What an hilarious and refreshing thread

How do you guys keep coming up with this shit?> Lmao

its like the 200th time I have seen this in the past weeks and im not even here that often

its like you guys are fucking intelectual geniusses, coming up with threads like this, reposting them, sharing with us

hahahaha oh golly what a laugh I have everytime when I see this, its like you guys are the omega omega omega of pathetic shit reposting faggots

lmao so funny and freshly made thread

would it kill ya if you for once would make an original thread instead of posting the same old meme jokes over and over again? you probably didnt even come up with it you just blatantly copy someone else and probably think you're hilarious when posting it

seriously consider please to try to improve the quality of posting please

sincerely, mike (a proud and loyal VG poster)
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nth for ppd
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what are the pull times for the small camp in patch 6.85
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TOP NTH FOR 3D ANIME > 2D ANIME
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post the webm

you know the one
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post your 3 favourite

INT

STR

AGI

heroes
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>>121417249
But does she speak Jap?
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>>121417241
what, like, for pulling and stacking?
:52-53
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>>121417249
The point of anime is the 2d though...
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Why is Skitskurr the best bug
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>>121417457
Ogre Magi
Earthshaker
Faceless Void
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who dat dotamon
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>>121417457
Legion Commander of Clock
Anti Mage, Ember Spirit or Gyrocopter
Rubick, Shadow Shaman or Techies
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>>121417952
tidehunter
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>>121417457
Batrider
Timbersaw
Ember Spirit
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>>121417952
RUBICK
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How the fuck is the smash community (a game literally made for autistic kids) less autistic than ours, this guys are actually well adjusted and not as awkward as the dota 2 pros.
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>>121417952
faceless void
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>Valve is finally fixing Source 2's memory leaks
thank god
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>>121417249
Celebrating 1 years since the end of Naruto shipping wars
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Post em senpaitachi.
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Hello! May I have some Barathrum tips?
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>yfw Kebap is back
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>>121418590
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>>121418665
>Not the edited one
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>>121418740
I don't have it sorry senpai
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>>121418527
Ask PPD's girlfriend
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>>121417952
Night stalker
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Bounty Hunter still outclasses slardar
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>>121418425
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>>121418878
I know I have it somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me
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>>121418946
you prob wouldn't have died if you didn't go radiance
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>Kotlguy invited to the ESL major
>Nahaz too

What the FUCK
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what's it like to have friends /d2g/
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>>121419378
they're not really friends you know

they're people working together and networking together

they're not going to all hang out until the ends of times, they're opportunistic and here because they know the esport scene is an inbred joke
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>>121419489
wow
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GABE NEWELL IS A MISOGYNISTIC PIG!! HE SHOULD HAND OVER RIGHTS TO DOTA 2 AND VALVE SOFTWARE SOLELY TO SHEEVER!!
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>adelaide-chan shitposted so much that EE will watch Love Live! now

...dotards?
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>>121417056
learning to play disruptor as a 2k shitter to have more variety for counterpicks.

I usually level up q and e first, rush mana boots then mek, then forcestaff then greaves and finally ags. Gameplay is fine so far, still need to work on that W skill, because i sometimes get confused like it's kunkka's x mark the spot and fuck it up sometimes, other than that my E and ult are pretty good, use it kinda like a blackhole.

My question is this: would it be viable to go manaboots then euls and forcestaff, so i can euls, then place a circle + ult.

It kinda reminds me of a lina combo, but idk if it'd be a viable combo because it'll kinda only be necessary when you find yourself in a 1v1 situation.

Any tips guys?
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>>121419605
is that our guy matt?
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>>121419602
ENDURANCE RUN
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I've always wanted to be Tresdin's squire. I always enjoy fantasizing about entering a tent with her after a long battle and slowly removing her armor, starting at the helmet and making my way down to her boots. At that point she sits down on a stool and commands me to kneel down and remove them one at a time. "Squire, must you pitch another tent so soon?" she says to me. I try to cover it up out of embarrassment, but she kicks my hands away. "You haven't finished yet." I don't understand because I had already removed her armor, but after she gives me a look I realize that she wants me to remove her shoes as well. I take off her shoes and reveal her gorgeous feet, surprisingly soft despite her being a strong warrior, and extremely sweaty. "Lick the sweat off my feet, squire," she commands me. I happily endulge until my raging boner begins to hurt from pressing so hard against my trousers. "Alright, squire, stand up and remove your clothes." I do so while she does the same. Then, all of a sudden, I feel an inescapable desire to stand still. "FIGHT ME" she screams as she pushes me to the ground and gets on top of me. It's only now that I notice she's holding Aghanim's Scepter, and I understand that she won't stop until one of us cums. Her technique gets more and more intense until I am unable to hold back. I cum inside her pussy with the force of a hundred megacreeps. She gets off of me, and as I lay there quivering in pleasure she gets dressed and begins to chuckle. "Only 9 inches? Pathetic."
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>>121419684
max your w urn is prob too good to pass up greaves is ok but expensive you just a waking ult and glimpse honestly
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Cutest player comin' through
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>>121419864
that's me
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>>121419602
This isn't going to stop sheeverposting you know
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Why does Zyori still have a job after exposing himself to children on twitch tv?
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>>121420007
it was a prank bruv
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>>121418425
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>>121419826
first? sorry im new whys that
why not q or e'
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I'm looking at him and he doesn't seem good on paper. Nothing great. He's supposed to be good. How does I into jakiro?
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>>121419864
Would you stuff this pie?
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>>121417457
Ogre Magi
Earthshaker
Faceless Void
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Cloud 9 vs Alliance on Summit soon
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>>121419864
Uuuuhm.
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FAVORITE DOTO QUOTE TIME

>"Either outcome is a possibility"
Nerf-it, the visionary
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>>121420308
Jakiro isn't really good
liquid fire slows attack rate, works on towers, for 0 mana and 4s cd
this ability is amazing
rest of his kit, and his animations are horrible
his int stat is gud tho
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no sheever, not interested in the majors

just kidding LMAO
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Should I drop out of school to try and go pro in dota?
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>>121419864
Stay off the snus hun
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>>121420590
So no point in picking him really? disappointing. Might as well stick with Winter Waifu :(
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>>121420732
yes ludwig

get back in EG instead of artour please
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>>121420916
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>>121417152
when i was a noob draskyls stream taught me to buy drums on every hero and it was god awful

just terrible
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>>121420823
I mean you can pick up a euls to use to set up instant stuns, and you push really hard, but we're not in a pushing meta

he's fine in pub games tho
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>>121419378
It's fun, I just made like 7 today. It's like being alone but there are 8 times more ideas being produced and conversation transforms each person's ideas with more ideas from the other people. You can do nearly anything by yourself, but it's X times more interesting with X more people fucking it up.
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>>121418425
Gotta win fast
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>>121419864
Is he gay? He looks gay. You could put this face baside any "cutepost" or post about a "steam bf" and nothing would look out of place.
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>looking at frankfurt desk
>Nahaz
>Pyrionflax

This scene is honestly a massive embarrassment
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>>121421907
there isn't competition
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>>121421719
Did you see how he hugged Puppey? He also referred to Puppey as "the big guy" on stream with Envy today. Pretty fucking damning.
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>>121422068
Good.
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I have exam in 9 hours and i am watching irrelevant NA dota. Where did it go wrong f am?
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>>121420213
W is like the best non ultimate skill in the game

sets up skill with that enourmous range

GoodSwap
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>tfw there are still people who offlane brood
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>>121422245
its 4am and i'm doin the same


TC is a fucking bot
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>>121422369
could be worse, I've been watching bob ross for 9 hours
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>>121422510
I'm doing both desu

it's over soon though most of his relatives died already. . .
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>>121420213
rank 4 has triple the range and a third of the cooldown
you don't need the damage and you don't need the miniscule wall duration when you pull someone that far out of position

disruptor doesn't live in a vacuum, pick the skill that makes him work the best with his team
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>>121422245
>watching irrelevant NA dota when our guy sing is streaming
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>>121422298
nice 38% winrate, bro
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>we're being kekolded by beyond the fucking summit now
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>>121422764
i think you've got the wrong anon dingus
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>>121422783
by a nigger no less
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>>121422971
Anon do you really not even know that like a third of smashers are black?
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how did singsing pull fwosh in the first place? he looks super androgynous
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>>121422971
>hey look at me I don't know the smash scene
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>>121423078
i don't play games for faggots

i paly DOTA
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>>121422783
do you post the same when esl, joindota, dreamhack, starladder, mlg, etc. do other games?

we are just having some fun
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>>121423287
So am I, I love Smash Bros.
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>>121423178
melee is accepted by the fgc, it's not a kid's game anymore
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>>121423467
ur mom isn't a kids game anymore
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>>121423467
Not him but does "faggots" = "kids" to you?
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>>121423467
just because you grew up on smash and cod doesn't mean those games aren't garbage fag
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>>121423467
Hey icefrog here
I have a great idea for 6.86

what if every time your hero turned, there was a 1% chance that you stunned yourself for 2 seconds???
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>>121423551
tru
>>121423564
no but melee deserves respect dude. they've been showing up en masse to tournaments for 14 years
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>>121421467
>>121420823
Jakiro is at his best in low skill games where both teams run around randomly until eventually grouping up and ramming into each other until someone's buildings fall over

He has spammable aoe damage and slows, kills towers well so you can get stuff done while your team fucks around, a spammable aoe stun that wins teamfights when people don't know how valuable cc is and your ult is actually a good spell sometimes because people stand in it
He's also bulky enough to give you a bit of a buffer on positioning and stop you from getting blown up when a fight starts, so you almost always get to do something.
legitimately the most fun I've ever had in this game was discovering jakiro when I had no real idea what I was doing and figuring the game out with him.
Give it a try. He's kind of boring on paper but his kit works well and feels good.
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>>121423687
thanks bro i will try him for the first time now.
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>>121423663
that would sufficiently even the game out, then everyone could win TI!
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LATEST NEWS: OVERWATCH CONFIRMED DEAD
Overwatch joins his brothers WoW, Sc2 and Heroes

>american time = maximum blizzdrone time
>no beta keys except for streamers, so anyone still interested would be watching

Whole of Blizzard being sustained one and only by Hearthstone.
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>>121423615

not him but how can you not respect smash m8

the game was shit on by the developers and the fans/players just soldiered on like champions

its also a casual babby game that was so fucking good for competitive play that its easily and laughably better than all the other shitty modern fighters that are played
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>>121424006

>champions

>>>/lolg/
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>>121423663
what if, when you went uphill, there was a 25% chance that your attack did 0 damage?!?!
what if, when you attacked, there was a chance of dealing FOUR HUNDRED PERCENT DAMAGE?!?!
what if, when you attacked, there was a chance of SUMMONING A MIRROR CLONE OF U?!?!?!?
what if, when you attacked, there was a chance they were stunned for 1.6s?!?!?!
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>try offlane terrorblade
>it's actually broken as fuck

wew
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>>121423987
and diablo

and hearthstone scene is in uproar over blizzard, they are already saying the game is in decline.

why do people fanboy over blizzard again? Literally all of their IP's are either dead, dying, or crippled by their absolute fucking astonishingly bad business and development decisions.
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>>121424363
>bad business and development decisions.

They're printing money who cares LMFAO

acti blizz just bought fucking King because they could
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>>121424193
>Try memeblade
>Reflection, supposed 'aoe wall of replica' is underwhelming as fuck because it only lasts for 5.5 seconds
wew
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>>121423987
>Hearthstone getting beat by a party game
>Everything beat by CoD where all the big cod streamers are on mlgtv
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>>121424476
>wow losing so many subs they have to stop reporting their sub numbers
>diablo season started good, but the game is literally played by no one again
>hots dead on arrival
>sc2, do i really need to explain this one.
>they have already fucked themselves with the paywall for overwatch, once again showing they have no idea how to make a good micro transaction system

hearthstone is the only thing left, and their dev is getting a load of shit from the community.

They wont be printing money for much longer if they keep this shit up.
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>>121424476
>acti blizz
didn't blizzard buy themselves out of activision like years ago?

>>121424363
>why do people fanboy over blizzard again
I hope people realize how shit the company has been since WoW... but then again most present day blizzdrones joined with WoW, so mine is a lost cause

>>121424583
>charity stream
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>>121424006
>its also a casual babby game that was so fucking good for competitive play
So fucking good the players had to gut most of the game to make it competitive.
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IS COL BACK?

SOMEONE POST THE WEBM
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tfw you're getting better and shit, your mmr is going up and you're enjoying playing your favorite heroes
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>>121424896
idk if you realize the irony of posting htat in d2g

but if you do you deserve this (You)
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HOW DO I GET IT TO GO TO 1.00
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>tfw no crab hero
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alch is the 685 cancer
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>>121425098
kek more
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>>121424858
>I hope people realize how shit the company has been since WoW...
If WoW is your marker for when Blizzard started circling the drain you're wrong. Blizzard's shittiness started back in 2000 and stayed pretty constant until sometime around 2009.
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>>121425131
>tfw no crab man hero
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>>121425161
being picked a lot is not cancer you fucktard

windrunner is more cancerous than alch
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How to fix viper in 6.86:

>Poison Attack no longer deals 10/16/22/28 flat damage per tick.
>Poison Attack duration from 2 to 4
>Poison Attack now deals 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 damage instantly, then ticks 3 more times for 75%, 50% and 25% of that.
>This damage is doubled for every 20% missing HP on the hero, up to 32/64/96/128 damage on the first tick (at level 4, deals maximum of 128 / 96 / 64 / 32 damage on each of the 4 ticks)
>Poison Attack slow now degrades over its duration smoothly, from 10/20/30/40% slow at start to 0% slow at end
>Subsequent poison attacks refresh the duration and reset the damage/slow to maximum.

Nethertoxin removed and replaced with Sidewinder
>Active
>Viper quickly glides to target location, slowing and poisoning all enemies he passes through. Slow and poison lasts 8 seconds and degrades over its duration
>Deals an initial 20/30/40/50 damage per second and 20/30/40/50% slow to both attack and movespeed (deals 50/100/150/200 overall damage)
>70 mana cost, 600 range, 31/26/21/16 cooldown, 400 glide speed
>Sidewinder requires no turning to cast and viper doesn't need to turn to attack or cast spells during the sidewinder duration
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>>121425263
>Tfw no crab riding human hero
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>>121425263
>>121425131

>tfw crab is too hard to prepare at home
>gotta scrub all that shit off its shell
>so difficult to eat

FUCK
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>>121425263

if I put that knife in, will you die?
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>>121425131
>>121425263
seriously fuck this shit
kel'snippity when?
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>>121425092
How is that ironic?
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i just went 1/18

worst game ive ever played ever

beginner me probably did better

how do i deal with this
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>>121425448
because dota had to be gutted to become competitive?
people had no fucking clue how to play this shit for years
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>>121424858
>since WoW
lol
stupid wowfag has no clue
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>>121424535
yeah its better
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>>121425220
While I never got into Diablo II (because of autistically playing the original Diablo hundreds of times getting bored of the genre for life) I liked War3/TFT. I don't know if there was some corporate drama as I didn't follow that shit back then.

From a point of view of game design purely, for me WoW is when the company went to shit.
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>>121425514
Have you tried blaming your teammates
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>>121425675
still shit t.b.h
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>>121425568
'since wow' in terms of 'since the start of wow'

wow was when blizzard sold out and gave up on making games. WoW was the cancer that killed the company

everything by blizzard/blizznorth prior to wow was alright
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>>121425306
wow no
that sounds retarded
you basically combined two abilities and added pheonix's ability minus the cool part

back to LoL with you
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who mike here
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>>121423987
>20+ year old non-gaming tv show about a guy painting is more alive than Blizzard's new game
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>>121417457

Queen of Pain
Bristleback
Ember Spirit
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>>121425548
What the fuck are you talking about? DotA has had developer support since it was released, Smash got released and people decided to ignore most of the characters and stages because it was always meant to be a random clusterfuck game.
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>>121425568

?

I never played WoW or any MMO.
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>>121425716
>blaming your teammates when you had the worst score
it doesnt work like that senpai
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>>121425783
>than Blizzard's new game

>than all of Blizzard's games

is what you mean I believe.
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>>121425716
no.... that game was on me in pretty much every way i forced 50ed a lot of people i think
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>>121417457
Techies
Phoenix
Meepo
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>this wisp painting
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>>121425676
>From a point of view of game design purely, for me WoW is when the company went to shit.
Fair enough. Most of the complaints people had over WoW apart from the usual problems inherent to MMOs were complaints that could be applied to WC3. WoW, Burning Crusade, and Wrath were basically WC4, tying up all the loose ends of WC3.
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>mistime the glyph on the outer towers and put it on cd by mistake
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>>121426168
>then blame it on your teammates
>"Nice glyph"
> Well Played!
> [ALL] Good game, well played
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>>121426168
shut the fuck up
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>>121426168
>outer tower

hello riot
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>>121426067
> Most of the complaints people had over WoW apart from the usual problems inherent to MMOs were complaints that could be applied to WC3

but MMO is precisely what the problem was
wc3 was the single most technically well constructed rts engine of all time and put together with gameplay as its sole concern. WoW was made as a casual game to slowly leech dollars out of the pockets of its users with a steady drip stream of content to try to hook people

WoW was when blizzard stopped caring about making games and started caring about maximizing profits
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>>121426168
>Try to type something
>Enter key doesn't register
>"Structures are fortified!"
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>>121426168
>teammate starts all capsing
>"WHO DID THAT? WHY DID YOU DO THAT?"
>literally glyph everytime it's off cd
>it doesn't matter if they find out in the replay, they can't report me anyway
>tfw
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>>121423987

>Thought Overwatch would be the next big game
>They announce that it's at least $40
>It became a dead game right at the moment

RIP
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>>121426421
That happened later, after they realized what a cash cow they had on their hands.
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>>121426421
>WoW was when blizzard stopped caring about making games and started caring about maximizing profits

>tfw we're experiencing the decline and fall of Valve
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>>121425718
yeah because 900 range ez wall of replica that you can't kill the fucking illusions and it slows and makes you do less dps is bad
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>>121426594
>40$

haha
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>>121426672
I don't think we're there yet, if valve was about maximizing profits they would fix the Dota 2 economy. They have gone pretty jew lately but not quite there yet
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>>121417457
Leshrac
Pheonix
Venomancer
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>>121426594

wait it is going to to be a single price game? theres nothing wrong with that if they hold true to that and dont kek people with having to buy heroes, weapons, abilities and such

i was expecting some FTP kek scheme or sub

only underage babbies cant pay for shit
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>they're playing mafia on bts stream
>no goyfather or hotbid
>hosted by kpoptosis
what a waste
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>>121426672
>>121426870
>full game is free without grinds or traps
>HURR MUH COSMETICS LE JEWS "MAXIMIZING PROFITS"

My favorite d2g meme of all time to be quite honest family.
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>>121427008
enjoy your dead servers after a month or blizzard making the game f2p after a year

it will be a good laugh
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>>121427008
Of course it will have microtransactions. It also is multiplayer only, no one wants to pay $40+ for MP only.

It's Evolve 2.0
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I think peruvians need to be gassed
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>>121427220
This isn't a Dota 2 related post.
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>>121417457
Lina
Legion Commander
Phantom Assassin
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>>121427137

so if you are saying f2p and paying a single fee is bad then what would you prefer?

actual sub kekery?
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>>121425306
How to actually fix viper

>Corrosive skin MR bonus and slow from 10/15/20/25% to 12/18/24/30%
>Bonus damage from netherotoxin now increases smoothly rather than just doubling every 20% HP missing.. Function is D = (32*B)*e^(-0.0345*X), where D is the bonus damage, B is the base damage of 2.5/5/7.5/10 and X is the % HP on the target, from 20 to 100%. Damage is still halved vs creeps and towers
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6.86 Pheonix Buff
Fire Spirits now attach a 5% stacking movement slow
Icarus Dive slow from 25% to 15%
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>>121427220
bth merica is just as worse
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>>121426421
>WoW was when blizzard stopped caring about making games and started caring about maximizing profits

But that's wrong, WoW's team had most of the same people working on the non-technical side of things as WC3 did. The cost of the development cycle and of the dedicated servers required meant that not a whole lot of the money people spent on the game went into Blizzard's pockets. It wasn't until 2009 when most of the original team got reassigned to Project Titan that Blizzard's policy went downhill and they started using cheaper, lower capacity servers to cut costs, recycling content and plots to save on development, and making the game more accessible and more broadly appealing to try and pull in more subscriptions and more xpac dollars. The "Blizzard milked WoW from the start" argument is retarded and the people who believe this just use it as a way to legitimize why they didn't like it.
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>>121426858
it is only a 25% slow
and it lasts only for 5.5 seconds
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should i stream
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>>121425272
found the filthy alche picker
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>>121427707

i remember you talking about streaming like almost a year ago u fuck

do it faggot
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>>121427707
>>121427912
twitch slash swayzesghost

NP on my team so game is lost already gg
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>>121427707
>against invoker with no orbs as a hero with high base damage, 1.6 BAT and one of the best attack animation out of mid heroes as well as high projectile speed
>getting last hits is somehow an achievement

Even if thats a replay bug and he's going exort and it's not showing you're both level 2 which means you have better damage than him.

lmaoing @ ur life
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>>121427008

It's B2P with hero buying, and skin buying. Also love the underage meme
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>>121427551
The netherotoxin change would be p good t.b.h
it is retarded that viper only starts to deal damage when the target is already dead
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>>121423804
well i lost because our huskar randomed and didn't know how to play, and our pa never aimed sniper in fights
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Did you guys already discuss the fact that Akke is a kek? What's the consensus?
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>>121427685
With WoW the target audience changed and that was reflected in the game design anon. I don't like using this word but WoW was aimed at more "casual" audiences compared to previous games. I even remember TV ads for WoW in my country, the first time I saw a videogame being advertised on TV. With WoW and the success it had they started designing games for a more general audience. Over the years it got worse and worse until nowadays with turds like Hearthstone, Heroes or Overwatch. In my opinion that's turned Blizzard from the top PC dev to piece of crap.
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>>121427707
You missed a few easy denies, walked up to the wave and took harass for no reason other than to give a 0 damage scream, werent pushing and didnt abuse creep equilibrium (especially as Qop), however you last hit well
Let me guess, 2K and you dont often play mid, more of a carry player
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>>121428049
>both level 2
>first creep wave of game
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>>121428403
He is retarded. Soe is just a host/interviewer who hasn't done shit in Dota for ages, as she has been working for Blizzard or ESL in other events. Sheever is okay but not a huge loss in caster ability.

Winter getting shafted is the biggest disgrace of the talent pool
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>>121428403
top kek
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>admirall bulldog is the best furion player

I've never saw him do a quad stack once

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh7TRcnoUxk

it's ez see
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>>121428239
He's not really in a good spot right now. He was good when his Liquid Fire dealt a tiny bit more damage and the meta favoured early pushing which he was great at. You can chip the shit out of towers and when you could 5 man down mid 10 minutes in he was great at slowsiegeing.

The only advice I could give if you want to keep playing is that he can FARM, seriously, this nigga is all about shitting out aoe nukes. If you're going back to base just throw your ult on a creepwave, try to stack the hard camp and farm it with your ult and dual breath. Euls means an absolutely guaranteed stun and your ult means youre the king of rosh. Veil is really good on him so picking him with lineups that generally have magic damage is also a good idea.
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Any second now sempai~
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NOOOOO LD U FUCKING MONEY GOBLIN GTFO FROM SMASH
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>pudge is a good mid and should definitely go there,vs a storm, over Lina
>io is the worst hero in the game
>Medusa can somehow get 6 slotted in 20 minutes
>PA is a mid hero
How do I get out of 1K when my team thinks this? I get some ridiculous score like 14/1 every game, but can never break high ground, we inevitability feed and lose
No. Not me ooga, team booga, I know im shit but I dont know what to do herr
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>>121428863
i really like the range on his stun, made good setup for followup stuns. i also enjoyed dropping his ult in a fight and watching the retarded enemy stand in it. i will def play him more, seems a situational hero though.
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>>121429063
pugna best loli
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>>121429063
Are you even vaguely aware at this point that Pugna MIGHT not actually be a girl?
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>>121429212

sick blog dude how do i subscribe
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>>121429420
>Pugna MIGHT not actually be a girl?
but anon, that doesnt even make sense
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>>121429063
pugna should be voiced by an angry manlet like jap Vegita
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>>121418740
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>>121427435
There are plenty of models to chose from but blizzard wouldn't pick them because they aren't as profitable as a direct sale or microtransactions. Hots and hearthstone are good examples of this
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>>121429212

keep working on your own play and forget about everything else

your mmr is never going to shoot up like an arrow unless you are vastly better than your mates AND you play mid, carry, or some super active rapist

just keep improving and win 51% of your games or more

or create a new account and see where you land after you calibrate
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How do I become good at dota like arteezy?
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>>121417457
Lina
CK
Slark
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>>121427707
>invoker at full hp
>level'd up dagger and never uses it
>walks in front of the creepwave (?) for reasons unknown (seriously what the fuck is happening?)
>still missing cs/denies despite not harassing

just LMAO
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>>121429918

>memestone
>pay for literally everything, including having to buy completely new sets of cards and all the other shit like adventures on new regions
>spend gorillions and still cant have more deckslots because having some choice and freedom might "confuse" the playbase
>etc
>good

WEW
E
W

the only company who can into f2p is volvo
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>>121430062
ask EE to become your mentor

and then practice hard so you will never be as bad as EE at dota
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>>121430171
hots and hearthstone are examples of why blizzard won't do good free 2 play models, you misunderstood
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>>121430062
>be annoying
>get a double kill on relevant teams
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>watching Love Live
>
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>>121430235
>EE have won more lans in the last year than RTZ
>RTZ is better than EE
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>>121429849
jesus chirst
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>>121430454
Love Live is one of the best anime in the past decade
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>>121430337

ah i misread then

im still waiting to see if they allow multiple of the same hero on one team before i even touch the game - but i might just not play it anyway because blizzard is bound to shit up the game somehow, even though right now it has potential
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>>121425306
Viper is literally sleeper OP right now if you don't do the meme mek + Aghs build. If you get Drums + SnY his power curve through the mid game is so strong and even has decent lategame if you build him correctly.

Also
>removing Nethertoxin, literally his most potent early game killing ability

???
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>>121421236
i hate this stupid item, i have no idea why people use it, its complete shit
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>http://www.tv6.se/esport/akke/discussion-about-the-hostpanelcasting-invites
this kek got completely btfo, I'm ashamed of being Swedish
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>the rumors about The Force Awakens revealing jar jar binks was actually a sith lord in disguise working in secret for the emperor have been confirmed true

not sure how I feel about this
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>>121430337
Except hearthstone prints money
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>>121430506
>sword art online wasnt the only anime in the last decade to not blow ass
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>>121430506
>Literally badIm@s
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>>121430506
Nah mate, that was Naruto by far.
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>>121430636
BLUNDER OF THE FUCKING MILLENIUM
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>>121418425
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>>121430648
I'm sure of it, but check their subreddit; they are up in flames. The question is how long will it print money?
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>>121430623
>Role models are important for you to be encouraged to follow your dreams and pursue the job you want to get and a lot of times it’s easier to identify yourself with someone of the same gender.

What the fuck?

Do black people really need other black people to look up to?
Do women only look up to other women?

It's stupid.

Look up to successful people, because of their success.
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>>121430636
>turn the most hated character into a villain
>get the audience hating your villain for FREE without even having to waste time making them do any of the bad cardboard cutout villain shit they probably had planned previously
>more movie time for other things
pretty brilliant tbqh
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>>121430235
bubla thouhg
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DC would be legit if they had a good player instead of Biryu
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>>121430474
>2 is more than 4
weebs idiocy amazes me
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>>121425038
another normal skill invoker mainer who still manages to get sub-50% winrate on him, you even have sub-50% winrate overall
wew lad
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>>121430648
Yes hearthstone is profitable but is it a good f2p experience? No.

Good is in terms of the player not in terms of profit.
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>>121430623
that article only makes me like Akke more desu
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this general needs more mikeposting desu

too bad he doesnt use his mic when he streams

i'd bet he would be entertaining
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>>121426457
>try to type something
>accidentally blow flash+barrier
and there goes my laning stage
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>>121431949
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>>121431620
i started i july and i'm learning bruh
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Whats on bts
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>>121432247
smush
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>>121431703

but why? he threw away everything he tried to say at the end by again reverting to

>"The problem I see is that when I look at the list of invited people, there are ZERO females. Not even one."

he tried to use reason for like 2 seconds and then reverted back to kek mode and let reason and logic scatter to the winds once more
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How do I see my own personal hero ranking with Dotabuff+? Clearly I'm not top 100, but I want to see how far away I am from it.
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>>121432430

why would u even be interested in their arbitrary scale for hero rankings
>>
>wp sumail
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>>121429849
Whoa! Can't post that on a Christian image board!
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>>121432337
He's a C U C K. He probably hangs around too many girls too.
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>>121417457
BANE
DOOM
WEAVER
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>DC wins against coL in game 3 because sumail was playing on yawar's account again
how's this shit allowed?
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>>121430235
that looks super comfy

tfw no friends to play dota 2 with
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why didnt anyone tell me abaddon was good
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>>121433129
nobody knows how to deal with him until 4k+ where he drops off a bit
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>>121433129
>Normal Skill
>every time someone makes a post like this
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>>121433129

but i did

u go offlane and run at bitches
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>>121433184
>Nobody knows how to deal with him until 4k+

Uhhhh don't hit him? He's not hard to deal with mate. Even at low mmrs they know this.
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>alliance are sjws

i.. uh.. what?
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>>121432558
e-peen fuel, what else.
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>>121433301
they really don't. at low mmrs he is played as a carry, and "don't hit him" is much harder when he's running you down with a fast farmed phase sny madness basher
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>>121430636
how does that even make sense
>>
>>121433364

they are swedekeks desu

did u think it was just a meme
>>
>>121433364
Bulldog ain't. He flames muslims, black people and degrades women all the time. Akke is a grill and a no skill ward bitch so it makes sense.
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>>121433387
>core abaddon
>probably wins
>support abaddon
>always wins
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>>121433387
this desu
aba's winrate peaks in 2-3k bracket
however its still pretty respectable 53.23% in 5k+ bracket
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>>121422298
Offlane is better, because you're a pushing machine you want to be pressuring T2 early on and deny them the entirety of their jungle.
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>>121433387
And then anyone above literally 1.5k figures out to beat the shit out of him prior to level 6 so he has no money at all.
>>
dead thread
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>>121433529
Here's a 20k word essay about this

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3qvj6w/theory_jar_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user/
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>>121433795
dead game senpai, we are posting about smash desu
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>>121433717
Not really. Support abaddon is legit in all brackets.If you can get out of the laning stage without getting shitstomped you've probably already won the game. Stuns and disables win Dota games and likewise the ability to remove them also wins you games. Sitting behind a core that can go ham and keeping him alive is quite broken. I hate playing against competent abaddon and omni players even in the 5k bracket.
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>>121434149
the peruvian?
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>>121434016
so he was only pretending to be a retard... for 30 something years
>>
>>121433529

basically, he was just pretending to be retarded the whole time to trick everyone

he was able to go from an outcast literally nobody to a galactic senator that worked alongside palpy - so the thought is that he was just pretending in order to hide his presence whilst acting as palpys superior - darth plagueis

it actually almost completely saves the prequels desu
>>
>>121422971
3/4 of the FGC are brown people. The rest are Asian.
>>
>tfw you will never spoon with the Puppan
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>>121433698
>Pushing
>In this meta
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>>121434405
>he was just pretending to be retarded

o-our guy?
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>>121434338
Like most people does
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>>121434405
I hope this is true because when he became mature and in the senate and somehow helped palpatine with everything it just makes sense
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Guys, what if Secret had s4, Zai, Kuroky and RTZ instead of w33ha, Misery, PLD, and Envy?
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>>121436280
If they had those players secret would never lose
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>>121436280
Artour would shit the bed
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>>121436280
>s4 is a good player
loving this meme
>>
>>121436280
it would be the best team in the world
they'd probably take a TI
>>
>>121436280

they would never lose

ever

until they defeated themselves
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>>121436280
>rtz is a good player
loving this meme
>>
DEAD FUCKING THREAD ABANDON SHIP
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Who /purgegamers/ here?
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nth for sweden yes
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sweden is shit
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Why is Slark so bad this patch?
>>
is there a reason why Doom was nerfed

was he seeing a ton of tournament play or something
>>
>Snowball stun now scales with distance travelled from .5 seconds at minimum range to 2.0 seconds at maximum range at max level
>scales 0.1-0.5/0.1-1.0/0.25-1.5/0.5-2.0

Is Tusk fixed?
>>
>>121438041
I don't recognize any of these people except kelly
>>
>tfw slardar will never be fixed
>>
>>121438181
because he is a snowball hero who has issues breaking highground
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>>121438568

he was at risk of turning into DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM again so they had to give him a nerf

and guess what, hes STILL picked
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>>121430636
>caring about SJW Wars

next youre going to tell me your an alliance fan
>>
>>121438181
because the job he does isn't something that needs to be done as often now
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>>121438674
I mean, it's overall a Buff to 6.84 but I don't get why the ult that is named after him had damage reduced and is now counted as magic with pipe even though it fucking says pure
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>>121430636
>confirmed true

how about a source you mong
>>
>picking anything but visage
why?
>>
>>121428009
new and improved now in low priority for trying to wrangle retards in my last game
>>
Red flags for guys:

>he opens up the demo and spams free spells on a group of axes
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I got flamed by some retard cos I had a tp scroll on nature's profit like a year ago and it still makes me upset when I remember it.
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>>121439515
>free tp
>buy tp

you were rightly flamed
>>
>>121439515
I've done that with BoTs and a TP; nobody called me out though, but I realized I wasted my money and I felt ashamed.
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>>121439515
i bet you buy blink on antimage you fucktard
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>>121439694
i can be at a team fight and then tp to push after we win

i can be pushing a lane back and back for a fight

i can be controling runes and going back to farm

shut up 3kuck
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>spend the last 2 days straight trying to win just 1 lopri game
>can't because beaners keep feeding/trolling/leaving
>finally win one today
>proceed to play a few ranked games
>get to a game where both the beaner mid and the beaner bot has died literally 5 times in under 10 minutes
>both huskar and slark are fat and just going around killing people now
>leave because I dont want to sit around waiting for it to end
>2 lopri games now

I can't keep doing this guys I can't keep playing its such a waste of time I can't hope that retarded beaners wont fuck up my games anymore I just cant
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>League has 27 million players everyday
>Dota 2 has only about 500k

ded gaem
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>>121439515
>mfw still remember getting flamed for still carrying my starting tangos in a 60 minute game
>this was a year ago
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>>121439821
>use blink dagger to initiate
>if bad situation, use blink to get away
>???
>lose because you spent 2250 on a redundant item instead of finishing your BF so you could farm
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>>121439515
>snipe courier
>tp back

>rat
>tp to teamfight

>tp home
>use free tp to come back to fight

tp is great on furion
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>gained 500MMR in two weeks
>still climbing
>lose 1 game for every 5-10 I win

S-so, am I actually good at supporting or am I just really lucky?
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>>121439902
>2 7 M I L L I O N
ebin
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>>121439902
LoL has 30 million accounts registered. Smurfing is a major issue in LoL, along with people having inactive accounts. The active playerbase is about as big as DOTA's.
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>>121440070
>thinking he's climbing due to playing support

LOL

I main support and I'm laughing
See you on the way down
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>>121438650
He's always been that. Its not like breaking high ground is some new concept that is more important this patch than previous ones. The real answer is aggressive offlanes are way more common and Slark gets destroyed vs them so yeah you're right about not being able to snowball.
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>>121439892
just got 5 low pri games for urging my team to push and win a game

i repicked into pos5 support bc they didnt pick one and had a good game...they report me into low prio.

i quit
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>>121440690
>i quit

And to think people say lo prio doesn't work
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>>121440413
Whoa! Are you saying League publishes bullshit stats?
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>>121440586
>I main support

stopped reading there
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>>121440070
by picking support in the first place you're doing good already. i noticed if i don't go dazzle with mek and urn and bust my ass half to death everything falls apart cuz everybody wanna go yolo rambo ganker all day erryday.

fuck this game
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>>121440874
No, I'm saying that you can't read
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Post hero you got 1st rampage with. I had a shit ton of int
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>>121440690
reports from one game don't stack. Its one report however many people report you in a single game. You've been to lp before, thats why you got 5 games. You also got reported multiple times in previous games.

Have thousands of games, never been in lp due to being reported, only abandons.

If you're not totally shit at the game you won't get reported as much even if you flame everyone. But be bad and talk shit, yeah I can imagine why people would report you over and over.

bye.
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>>121440893
What's the matter? Scared of a strong independent support mainer?
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>>121440951
depends entirely on the mmr. if you don't have carries worth supporting it's better to just carry yourself. the problem typically isn't that people don't support, but instead that they don't know how to probably farm as a carry.
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wait a second
is BSJ not even 5k?
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>>121441256
>scared of a guy who lets his girlfriend fuck other dudes while he watches
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>>121441358
mad you need 6 slots to have impact?
>l-look I killed a support while having only 20k more networth than him, h-he's such a beta r-right?
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>>121441358
Sounds like you are. Don't worry junior, just stay in your lane and wait for the grownups to tell you when its safe to come out :^)
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>tfw one enemy has more mmr than your whole team
Thanks Valve.
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>>121441525
>die dire
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i finally make it to 5k senpai
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>>121441525
>tfw the winning side is determined by which 4500 MMR brought the shittier friends along
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>>121441525
>double digit mmr
post the match id
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>>121441672
1917272882
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>>121441292
it's fucked either way, they always seem to find a way to pick 3 junglers after each other, then spam ping the map for 5 minutes because no one is getting farm while all t2s are down before minute 10. or if i carry and the aa steals my last hits because he needs early midas. this is 2300 mmr so it probably doesn't come as a shock
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>>121441662
que?
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Why is EE's twitter picture Cyborgfatt? 4head
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>>121442203
just play riki every game you're 2k
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why are there no chubby girl heroes
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>On a massive losing streak
>Finally manage to carve out a win on a hero I'm godawful at
>Feel some sense of relief
>SERVER EXPERIENCING HIGH LOAD, AWARDS WILL BE GRANTED LATER
>Check when I wake up
>Game never happened and it doesn't exist

Fuck this stupid fucking broken game, I've had it, I've done. Valve had a truly good game on their hands and they shat on it to EA extents with their lack of support.
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any good TD custom?
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>>121442532
because fat is fucking gross
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>>121442203
Heres a pro tip that someone gave me way back in the day anon. I follow it religiously.

Never expect your team to be anything but complete fuckwits, if they do anything that's not completely stupid that's just a bonus. Your aim is always to win your lane, snowball and carry the game. If you lose its always your fault!

Always I mean always focus on your own game, even when you go 20-0 godlike and you're a 6k player you've still made tons of mistakes that game. Watch your replays focus on your mistakes and try not to repeat them. Work on your mechanics in private lobbies, Read Chaq's dota 2 guide, never miss a lasthit as gold wins games. Practice lhing under tower and normally with shit damage. Practice a hero you want to play the next game for a few minutes in a lobby so you get used to the attack animation.

Mute all chat and put some nice music in the background when team starts flaming each other, the game is way more enjoyable and you don't play well when you're upset with someone.

Good luck and godspeed. Getting out of 2k bracket should be childs play if you even put the smallest effort to get better.
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>>121443193
i've already been following this advice the last week. that being said i'm even worse than that anon. but i did go up from 700 to 900 MMR the past couple days.
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>>121440615
the difference is that even if slark couldn't break highground he could maintain his advantage

can't do that now and if he gets killed with a huge lead he cannot catch up
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>>121420213
You can even set up a glimpse > ult+wall combo and if you time it right get the full duration of the current level of your wall and ult. Honestly the range on that thing is so good, I personally sometimes play disruptor just for that skill. Blink and/or force also helps you land your skills very easily.
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>>121432430
The "Rankings" tab on your profile
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>started in july
>990 hours
>900 MMR
>1100 party MMR
am i at least on track for the average
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What if

>While reflection illusions are within 900 AoE of terrorblade and metamorphosis is active, they shapeshift from their normal heroes into illusions of terrorblade
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>>121443193
thank you, that's good advice and i appreciate it
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>>121443389
ROFL
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>>121440586
>>121440951
I wouldn't play support so much except that they're just so easy to shut down cheese strats with.

Like my last game. They went Void, Jugg and Death Prophet, so I went Omni. They tried to counter with Doom but failed because Riki shat on Doom for most of the game. We BARELY won the last teamfight because after Void jumped on me before I could get my ult off I slammed by Guardian Greaves and got my ult off with 100hp left just as Death Prophet started assraping our team. If we hadn't killed Jugg 2 minutes before and got his ult out he would have still probably killed me with a jump before my ult animation played out.

Or just Dazzle in general. Splitpush like a champ, keep my team alive like a champ, ward everything like a champ. If I don't support I always find ward coverage lacking.
I'm not a great player by any means, but I at least have map awareness I think, and at this rank I suppose that's more than most can say.
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>>121441525
>>121441802
>this is double digit mmr starting items
i can't breathe
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Why is 3k in Australia like 4k
Why is 5k in Europe like 3k
Why is 3k in America like 3k
Beyond that, matchmaking just stops working beyond a certain rank in some countries.

This is some kooky fucking shit.
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>>121444045
>first buying boots on huskar
i mean, the only hero i think i've ever first bought boots on is wyvern. it's fine on other heroes too i guess but....huskar? his movement speed is decent and you should put everything towards armlet and a bit of early game regen at start.
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Can someone explain to me how icefrog balances stuff, I really don't get it.
1. a Hero gets buffed in one skill
2. Hero suddenly becomes top tier insta pick/ban
3. instead of just nerfing the skill that made him 'OP' he gets nerfed in in other skills too (doom aghs nerf for example(that might have been necessary but I'm no expert and THat's what I'm asking))
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>>121444045
Lmao the best part is that the Puck probably thinks he's next level by trying to rush a midas.
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>>121443450
200 mmr isn't that bad in just a few days. what i keep seeing people doing in games is that they will dive from the bottom t1 tower to top t1 tower confident that they will catch that slardar with a blink dagger not expecting to get killed on the way. always carry a tp, you won't believe how many times i've lost to rats because no one had tp. always look at the minimap, watch out for their mid rotating. watch the other lanes, see if one of your teammates is running for his life and you can tp in and turn it around possibly netting your team a few kills in the process. basically read the guide in the op and other guides + videos.
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I mean this.

Is there ever a situation where rushing Greaves is a bad idea?
I don't mean that it's the most optimal idea, I mean it's a bad idea? Gives you mana sustain for running around using skills, gives your team mana sustain, heals a large chunk of health in a massive radius great for healing creep waves for pushing or keeping your team alive during fights, and purges a majority of debuffs to boot. It's just so good, not to mention the armor aura and regen aura. I love this item.

>>121444380
Doom definitely needed an Aghs nerf. He went from "take one hero out of the fight" to "kill one hero."
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>>121443450
baby steps friend. 1 week is not a very long time. In that bracket I would suggest you start by getting comfortable with the UI and controls. Choose a hotkey layout and make sure you get comfortable with it. Never use your mouse for anything that can be done with hotkeys. Start paying attention to the minimap to watch for enemy movements. If you need vision, buy a ward, 75 gold is nothing but one and half creep gold. Watch good players and try to copy the way they play the hero you like. Last but not the least I can't stress enough how important last hitting is, work on it.
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Have Sheever, Jess and Soe received their invites yet? If not FUCK VALVE. Seriously, they can invite Dakota if a few people get annoyed, but they won't invite Soe, Jess and Sheever who actually deserve their place on the hosting team? This is fucking bullshit and you know it.
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why is pa so shit
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>>121444593
Meant to attach this.
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>>121444593
my third item on huskar is almost always grieves. armlet then helm then grieves. i caught someone complaining and calling me a support huskar today for having grieves. we won anyway. grieves are awesome, they're just not typically a better option immediately on support heroes, who usually should be buying them, because they're so rich. they rarely get to come into play because they come into play so late.
>>121444663
i watch a lot of guides and stuff. what are people's opinion here on EDJE? I like his guides and he's done them on some of my favorite heroes.
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>>121444324
bootskar is actually legit
outrunning their 1 armor support stacking burning spears
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>>121444857
anyone who's smart knows early game huskar hurts himself trying to harass and will wreck you in lane. huskar can win any lane if he doesn't force harass though.
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>>121444105
MMR for Aus is deflated due to the fact that the players aren't all fucking mouth breathers.
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>>121444828
Well it's only a 1600 recipe. Mek is a really good item in and of itself, I usually get that after mana boots. By the time that happens usually the team is grouping somewhere and I'm keeping lanes pushed with tp scrolls ready in case I see a fight happening. After I push out the lanes a couple times and buy out the wards I usually have around 2k, I get it even earlier if I help a lot in fights and get assist gold, so if we're at all doing well I can generally get a Greaves by 30 minutes at the latest. Most of the time I get it a lot earlier.
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When do people stop doing duo lanes in pubs and ranked?
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>>121445136
I saw a trilane yesterday against our solo lane Gyro.

He was 4/0/1 at 10 minutes and had boots and had almost finished his first item.
>tp down to help him during a dive
>magnus blinks behind me
>misses his charge and I hit him with a heal from Omni as he goes by
>charges straight into the Gyro ult and dies immediately
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>>121445136
when you start only playing offlane and/or jungle, thus forcing 1-1-2-1 lanes every game no matter what
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>>121444380
Because by going the opposite way you end up with LoL where everything is the same.
Heroes need to have Strengths and Weaknesses for game to be fun.
Icefrog tries to raise weaknesses before nerfing strong (==fun) parts.

Here's fault in your logic:
You compare patch 6.84 to 6.85b Dooms disregarding everything else. You can't balance in vacuum.
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>>121445331
good point, thanks.
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tfw spent forever trying to find a better steam avatar

5 decides my steam avatar
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>>121445597
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I have 50 Solo MMR. AMA.
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>>121445663
Post match history
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>>121445136
duo lanes are better than anything else no matter what the MMR is

the carry and mid are always the most unstable, pick some cancerous dual lane and rape the carry till he tilts and just win the game
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>>121445597
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>>121445663
post dotabuff
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>>121444828
I don't read a lot of guides but I've heard of Edje before, think he's a german player who atleast played at a semi pro level so his opinions should be decent.

Most hero guides are stupid, you should just skim through them to get an idea of how the hero works and not be afraid to deviate depending on the game. You will develop your own understanding of a hero after you play it enough and your overall game understanding improves.
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>>121444045
>>121441525
This can't be real

Like this has to be on purpose
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where the FUCK is my Zeus arcana valve
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>>121443389
pyrion shitflax getting memed on
fuck that bald kek
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>>121445716
>tusk fundying
>silencer ogre magi
>abaddon weaver
there are more those just come to mind most times i feel like being a sadistic bastard
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>>121446060
yes?
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>>121446060
h-hi?
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>>121446157
Jesus?
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>>121445474
SUPPORTBLADE
>>
>You have to wait a while before reporting another post.

fucking A
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>>121446095
will just make him evil zues
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>>121446251
>>121446262
hey
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>>121446315
he ban evades anyway, its hopeless
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>>121430616
because its really really good
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>>121444781
Nice
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Lol can't wait for the major to be a complete failure without any female talent EleGiggle. They won't even get any views on Twitch. Going to be hilarious, just wait Sheever will be included at every major after this.
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>>121446827
>kotlmeme will never be left out from the hosting crew

baka rdota2 senpai
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>>121446470
>going up against a veno+viper lane
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>>121430987
i would assume if you feel that you are being repressed because of your gender/sex/age/whatever seeing some one else with the same alignment as you succeed gives you a "wow he made it out of the hood despite being black, maybe i can too" feeling

it makes sense to meeeee
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>>121446315
who are you going to even report anyway?
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what went
wrong
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>>121446910
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>>121441525
this is the second loudest ive laughed this week
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>>121441525
LOL
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>kicked something with my toenail on accident and now there's a dark red mark under the nail

Explain this dotards
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>>121447536
its a beta
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>>121447536

your toenail was doomed
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>>121447536
it's called internal bleeding, it'll heal
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>>121447536
>>
>>121447536
You are doomed
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what dota girl do i draw?
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>>121447536
foot aids
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>>121447776
puck
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>>121447823
do you really want an image of puck? like honestly? over anything else?
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>>121447972
if the man wants his puck better give it to him
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>>121447776
draw adelaide
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>they pick meepo
>just counter pick wyvern
>win game
this item build was lol
>>121445990
he's from new zealand
his guides are funny and good IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlhdTGlNzbw
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>>121427707
Jesus christ that QoP positioning.

Be glad you was going against Invoker and there supports were too retarded to make a move on you.
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our girl is best slark NA !!! ~
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>pyrionmeme trying to bully our guy on twitter
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Reminder that there is still no real loli hero
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>>121448689
That's not the fluffiest bunny

?
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shh... ppd is sleeping
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>>121427707
this is stupid. invoker loses mids because until he has levels he can't win last hit battles. the only way invoker wins is if he gets good sun strike kills early. why does icefrog hate invoker?
>>121448689
>dat mmr
dang she's cool
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>>121448751
pyrion is actually kind of hateful
he hides it pretty well, but sometimes he can't hold it on or something and makes these kind of comments
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>aegis has two cocks on it
>major is a dragon dildo

what is going on
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>>121417457
Visage
Clockwerk
Terrorblade
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>>121448924
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>>121448808
Reminder that you're an embarrassment to humanity if you care about this
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>>121448924
Valve can't hide it well
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>>121448170
Ah, thats a different guy then. Imo the best guides are the ones that focus on teaching you the game, rather than a hero. Those types are also very rare. Slahser has a good safelane guide, and Chaq's guide is a bit advanced but if you can get to a level to be able understand it, it is the best Dota guide in existence. It really improves your game to the next level.

As for learning a hero, I prefer watching pro players playing it and trying to understand why they do what they do etc. Going to Dotabuff's top 100 players page and observing what item builds the non pro players on that list who tend to have a lot of games on said hero go for is also a good way to learn.
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https://twitter.com/EternaLEnVy1991/status/662422053266542592

>mfw ee plays with adelaide
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>>121449223
thanks for the advice, sincerely, i'm gonna look into this. can never have enough resources for learning this cursed game. someday maybe i can be a 5k shitter.
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>>121449348
How the fuck is he going to play with a state!?
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>>121449348
>his profile pic
HAHAHA
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>>121449348
Wait thats cyborgmatt what the fuck
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>>121449402
move there
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>>121445663
How?
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>in the bracket where flying courier isn't bought until 6-7 minutes

get me out
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>>121445856
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/206185325
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>>121449882
fuck you nerd I can't afford it as a support i need to buy wards
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>>121449903
HOWWWW???
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>>121449903
>24 deaths on lc

Please tell me you fed intentionally
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>>121449882
Anon in the old days you were lucky to even get a team that a) bought a courier, and b) shared control of it with the rest of the team
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>>121449882
you want a courier buy it yourself fucking stink butt :^)
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>>121449903
>That riki winrate
Literally how
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>>121449903
This is my first fucking moba, ive been playing for 3 months, and im 3k
HOW THE FUCK
ARE YOU 50 MMR
HOW
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>>121425793
>DotA has had developer support since it was released

That's why it's an exquisite piece of IP from the proud creators of Brood War, Diablo 2 and World of WarCraft right?

Yeah, nah. Blizzard dropped the ball fucking hard when they dismissed it as nothing more than a modded piece of garbage. Developer support my ass.
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>>121450080
HOW IS ANYONE UNDER 2k? THIS GAMES EZ AS SHIT
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>>121443704
3k+ is avg
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>>121449903
>39.60% ranked winrate
Good
God
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>>121450267
3k is fucking dog shit
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>>121450080
>3k in 3 months
>tfw sub 1k and started 4 months ago
>1000 hours played
Shit boi i feel terrible
>>121450267
Apparently i should already be 3k. Fuck.
>>
australian 3k is like eu/us 8k desu senpais
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>>121450328
i could be higher if i kept playing, havent lost a ranked yet but i hate the burden of telling a bunch of children who to pick and where to lane
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>>121449903
>the matches are still called Normal Skill
Valve needs to patch this fucking bug tbqh
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>>121444045
>boots first
100% league players
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>>121450436
Wait what league starts with boots?
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>>121450491
the league of villains?
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>>121450395
At 900 mmr i am moatly spamming riki for wins. Every now and again i mix it up with something i actually like? I don't really lose with huskar, wyvern or leshrac anymore. I think i would at least be like 2.5k if i had waited to start ranked until i was confident in my ability to play.
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>>121441518
>>121441514
Kek I remember reading an analysis of support Mainers stating that they are feminine beta faggota who try to justify their babysitting behaviour as "alpha"

And that analysis still stays true to this day
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>>121444045
Kind of funny that the literally pro-used boots first SB build would actually fall on its face at rock bottom MMR because it depends on the opponents all being smart enough not to be doing the same.
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>sub 1k mmr
these are the people who tells you that your build sucks
>>
Every single spell can be now set to autocast. What happens?
>>
>>121450554
>not playing invoker for free mmr
most of the low mmr players dont understand that he has more then 4 abilities
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>>121450809
bristleback meta
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>>121427551
>Function is D = (32*B)*e^(-0.0345*X)
speak non-virgin please
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Reminder that Secret will never lose desu.
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>>121450834
I rock invoker. He's actually my favorite hero (see >>121425038) but invoker is harder to win with. He sort of requires a lineup that he syncs with, and you have to win before the entire enemy team buys bkbs. And he cant win a game if your entire team feeds. Riki can win if the rest of his team is level 10 at 40 minutes at this mmr.
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>>121449903
THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN
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>>121450605
>babysitting
what kind of trenchdweller are you, supports create space and gank so you betafaggots can outfarm you opponents while supports outplay them.
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>>121445597
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>>121450760
I'm currently feeding on a smurf to get to 1k MMR bracket and you are fucking correct. Right now I am looking at an aghs only juggernaut(no boots or any other items) dueling a riki. Or when I gave a rapier to an ember who had a vanguard prior, or this alch who I gave a rapier in another match and he was 6 slotted with trash items but he sold them off for 2 moonshards and died whilst walking with zero stats item with 1.5k HP.
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You are in lane vs this Man and he starts to bang your cutie assian gf.
What do?
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>>121445597
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>>121451139
5.1k
I carry games and roam whilst farm efficiently whilst all you do is afk and plant wards and get 120g from assists.

Kill ureself
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>>121445597
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>>121449903
>normal skill games and games so fucking low skill they don't even get a rating
>you're not stomping with Riki in this bracket

Literally how.
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>>121451161
Pray that he has Dendi and Xbox on his team so he will end up disappointing her
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>>121445597
Pic
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>>121445597
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>>121451235
>5.1k
probably NA server too.
5.6 here and I only play offlane/support, you beta c ucks who play position 1 are the least mechanically skilled in all of dota while making up for it by having more items, probably due to your inferiority complex.
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>>121445597
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>>121451394
fuck off waga you shiter
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>>121451394
Not gonna have this argument with you sorry. You are following the analysis by script which is uncanny. Good luck beta
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>>121451161
thank him for pulling me into this alternate reality where I have a qt asian gf
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>>121445597
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>>121451441
>waga
>not the definition of pos 2 betamax
he's your average shitter who get mmr by playing heroes like TA
>>121451465
told
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>>121445597
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>>121445597
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>>121445597
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>>121445597
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>>121445597
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>>121445597
5
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>>121445597
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>>121445597
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>all these faggots supports and core ""mainers"" trying to state out who is more alpha
>not being part of the random pick master race
>mfw 60% wr vhs while randoming every fuckin game
>can fit every position with every hero
>had to jungle storm spirit, support ta, mid slardar and fuckin carry rhasta against tryhard stacks and still got somehow to bring teams to victory
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>>121445597
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>>121445597
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>>121445597
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Any undergrad law here? Can sheever sue Dota for not being included in the major?
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>>121452065
finally
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>>121451905
>end up being support terrorblade
>outfarm my pos1 pl, and everyone else on my team while roaming and not really trying to farm
>lose game
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>>121452065
>>121445597
i did it reddit
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>>121452065
nice senpaitachi
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>>121417457
Skywrath Mage

Wraith King

Medusa/Slark
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>>121451905
>vhs
says nothing you could be 3.8k for all we know
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what the fuck dotards

dead thread
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>>121452214
i will never know till i have the opportunity to calibrate
still played against stacks of ppl who had 5-6k mmr
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What went wrong?
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>>121452393
clonkz and ck a-moved on your base
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>>121452393
>THREE Heart of BadSkadi's on Dire
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>>121452238
it's like 5am senpai, calm down and go to sleep
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What time does d2g go to bed and wake up?
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>>121452665
1am-8am
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>>121452238
Been dead for some time
Reddit keeps fucking our shit up because Valve keeps listening to them

The fuck was this patch even, a major patch yet with small fixes because of the major so icefrog wants to focus on a major patch after.

This patch was just minute fixes to stop the meta heroes like lesh and blood. No wr fix
We had the biggest decline of players in DotA 2 history this september.

Reminds me of Ace of Spades when the creator listened to them which made him introduce a bunch of retarded guns and ruin the graphics because people got disoriented which was the gimmick people liked it for and the trench shooting
And those killstreaks, what the fuck
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>>121451905
Being versatile is best.
>>121417457
>tfw all my favorite heroes are int
InvokerWyvernLeshracODOracle
Bounty
Huskar
>>121452393
Huskar bought terrible items for starters
>>121452665
tfw tranny playing dota with no dotabf
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>>121452762
so around this time?
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here's ice in your eye desu
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these fuckin 2 mins fights at vg v ehome
goddamn boys this is showtime
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>VG is good

Daily reminder EHOME will win the frankfurt bowl
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>VG actually using their sub in place of burning
lel
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>>121452927
no
go to sleep between midnight-1am
wake up at 8 am to go univ
always get home tired from basket training/matches so dont use to stay up too much on pc at night
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>>121453036
? Burning is playing
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i think no less than 75% of what godz says is verbally fellating iceiceice
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>>121453094
END is their sub zyf
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>>121452137
>be worthless
>team falls behind
>get rubber band gold
>talk shit
>lose game

aaaaay
>that feel when people start talking about their farm when its honestly all rubberband dollars
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>tfw 7 loss streak
I don't even know what to do anyfuckingmore.
Half these games weren't even my fault. I literally had intentional feeders in 3 of these games like I'm fucking done.
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>>121453068
lol i think the other guy meant d2g as a whole

im guessing youre aussie m8?
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Any advice for learning meepo?
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>>121453442
d2g is the home of all australians
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>>121453782
play starcraft
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I did it.
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>>121453416
play doom, hard carry, "ez game," gg

>>121453782
hate yourself a lot
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>>121427008

>only underage babbies cant pay for shit

that sure didn't seem to stop the bajillion kids playing CSGO

>start of the round, say hey team
>they respond
>one of them has a voice like his ballsack hasn't dropped
>insta muted him

cba to listen to kids spouting dumb shit
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>>121453913
>>121453782
keep doing it until youre good, its all muscle memory

lastly, dont actually play meepo until we see icefrogs"big patch"
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>>121453923
>all these single and double digit ratings
you know you can actually sell these accounts right?
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>>121453923
HOLY SHIT
i'll give you 50 bucks for that account, i want to test some things
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>>121453923
gz
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>>121453782
Build Alt+ button for quick casting.
Practice your fucking micro
Play warcraft III ladder
>>
KICK BURNING
WIN TI6
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well... what now?
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>>121453923
>mfw
>>121454014
>wc3 ladder

Is that still a thing or do you have to use some 3rd party host?
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Why do people keep playing Viper like a support?

The hero's entire skillset is literally "I'm going to murder you" yet people insist on playing him as some kind of weird support/tank hybrid.

Will it take clan_iraq to save us from these shitty Viper builds?
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>>121454014
I cant micro for shit even a little and my key bindings are all fucked up
I get nervous when i dont have my character in the scree, idk.
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>>121453990
dont
get a 1k mmr one
1 MMR accounts are really bad since you can get sent to low 2k mmr games which isnt ideal
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is w33ha like the new rtz now?
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>>121454014
do people even play wcIII anymore? i would assume its all dota 1 now
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>>121454215
goodRtz desu
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>>121454215
Pretty much
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>>121454212
>1 MMR accounts are really bad since you can get sent to low 2k mmr games which isnt ideal
how the heck does that happen?

anyway, do you have experience in that low of a bracket? i want to test some dumb shit like carry crystal maiden
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>>121454212
I got matched up with mostly 1-400 MMR players while playing at about 100 MMR. I never played with someone higher than 900 MMR on EUW and EUE.
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>mmr is just a number

is this real life
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>>121453979
But isnt meepo ez mid if you can play him (and dont get counterpicked by like, wyvern or leshrac or basically nobody else)
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>>121453442
italian
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>>121454435
learn to push baddie
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>>121454435
no blink on tidehunter and a random fucking belt of strength? that's fucking hilarious
>>
>Lone Druid player
>On your team
>Talks shit
>>
>have 30 bucks in savings account
>try putting $25 on my steam
>declined
>25 dollars american is 32 dollars australian
real epic
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>>121454587
>lone druid player
>on your team
>begins to jungle
>enemies gets to your t1
>he comes to def
>dies
>enemies come to t2
>he has farmed a radiance
>dies
>enemies come to t3 and rax
>he has now some items
>still dies
>enemies get your rax
>he has aghs, now splitpushing
>enemies would stomp you anyway but cant push
>game lasts 90 minutes
>still lose
>ld ends game with 1k cs
>talks shit on team
>is 0 20 3
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>>121454792
>pick sneaky tree jew of pushing
>end with 1k cs and all towers down
>force their meepo to tp back every single teamfight
>win
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>>121454758
You need to go tens of trillions of dollars in debt for the world to value your dollar
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>>121453869
ee fans

whats EE soundtrack again? it was that thing on youtube..
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Who /fall major/ here?

Meet and chill in frankfurt?
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>>121454443
hes a hero that needs a gold and exp advantage to be good

IE: shit vs the rubber band
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>>121454858
>pick based goy of nature
>get lvl 1 treants
>set hero on autoattack the guy who came for rune
>bodyblock him with LMAO TWOO TREANTS
>fb
my sides
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>>121454113
Why do people keep playing SF like a support?

The hero's entire skillset is literally "I'm going to murder you" yet people insist on playing him as some kind of weird support/tank hybrid.

Will it take clan_iraq to save us from these shitty SF builds?
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>>121454858
>he has 5 meepos with bots
>foceing back anything

lmao
>>
>That feel when you have the solo lane curse

Whenever I get solo lane, it's always, ALWAYS against some cancerous pairing.

Like Bane and Mirana.
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>>121454998
Why do people keep playing ayylmao like a support?

The hero's entire skillset is literally "I'm going to murder you" yet people insist on playing him as some kind of weird support/tank hybrid.

Will it take clan_iraq to save us from these shitty ayylmao builds?
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>>121454758
>>have 30 bucks in savings account
>>try putting $25 on my steam
>>declined
>>25 dollars american is 32 dollars australian
>real epic

as an australian, i found this quite funny
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>>121454317
everything works, it's just that 1 mmr accounts get sent to games late at night where the system tries to balance out the mmr so that both sides have equal mmr
which leads to many games in which you will have
2k, 2k, 2k, 1k, 2k = 2k, 2k, 2k, 1 mmr, 3k

when you rather want to play with 1k mmr players instead
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>>121455067
>as some kind of weird BadDazzle/BadRylai hybrid
ftfy
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>>121455067
i dont know what hero you are talking about

morphling maybe?
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>>121454758
remember when our dollarydoos were worth more than us dollars?

good times
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>>121455308
remember when weebs didnt have autism
me neither kill yourself
>>
WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY DOTA I DONT UNDERSTAND
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>tfw Auroth will never be real
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>>121455387

there are like 2 people in d2g who actually play
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>>121455305
oracle you nasty dumbie
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>tfw it's becoming increasingly more difficult to carry the four shitstained peruvians I get matched up with every game as a hard carry
>They never buy wards
>They always feed
>They always steal my farm
>They always report me for being unable to carry the game when they all fed and stole my farm before I even had the chance to come online
>And there's millions of these shitstains ruining not just my games, but other peoples'
Peru should be nuked aside, would it just be easier to climb mmr as a position 5 support?

I'm tired of this shit happening every fucking game.
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>>121455642
just win
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>>121441004

hero is honestly broken this patch. If you get an early radiance you can rampage by barely even being in the thick of the action.
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>>121455387
because I have a dream of going pro even though i'm 2k trash :c
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>>121454435
Hard lol at that warlock and tide
>>121455416
That
Feel
When
>>121455619
Oracle is a support and only a support
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>>121455863
i open twitch and dream to never become as trash as pros are
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who /oldchicken/ here
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>>121455642
>would it just be easier to climb mmr as a position 5 support?
No. They would still just feed, and ignore map vision.
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>>121455862

GHOST BLOWJOB
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>>121455642

dont be a beta kekeroo carry
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>>121455912
ok
>>
I have 2.5k hours played, I can play 95% of heroes perfectly but I cant reach 3.1k. I'm around 2.8k, I reach 3k and then fall down to 2.6k again and start again. This mother me so fucking hard. If I carry, someone in my team fails hard, If I support the carries cant farm properly, I can't really understand. I just end up with best score/farm/items but my team lose anyway.

The only way I found is to spam PA (win in 30 mins and 5-6 win streaks) but I really don't like playing that way.
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How to fix Lich for 6.86

Chainfrost now also deals its damage and slow in a 300 AOE each time it hits a target.

BAM

VIABLE
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>>121455642
dont play HARD carry play tiny/ck/etc
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VP fanpage ran a poll regarding yesterday's "controversy" about no girls being invited to Major. Almost certain most people didn't read what was the poll about, and just voted for familiar name. Still, it's a scary tendency.
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>>121456024

The problem with lich is that once he uses chain frost, he doesn't actually do anything.
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>>121455912
>Oracle is a support and only a support
With what? A stop and a purge? A disarm? A 360 damage nuke on a 2+1/4th of a second cd?
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>>121452143
>>121452065
>>121445597
ty reddit
shame about it not fitting correctly, i'll have to resize it
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>>121449903
>id 1917444397
>LC
>Goes 5 Salves + GG
>Rushes OoV + Blink
>Solo crushed in lane by a Veno
>Panic Duels
>All of his early game deaths could have been prevented if he bothered buying even brown boots (bought them 23 minutes in)
>1 second reaction to everything
>Moves cursor at geriatric speed
>Tries to duel people at full health
>No damage items, no armor, nothing to help win duels at all
>Literally just blinks onto people and duels them and hopes for the best
I don't think this person has ever seen another human being play Dota before. Candy Crush is more your game.
>>
>>121456003

I climbed mid 2k to 4k bracket. Just picked "independent" carries and rolled with it - Luna, Gyro, PL etc. If you can't make it through 3k games like that, you don't deserve more than 3k. It's that simple. You can't win every games, but its not hard to get like 65% winrate if you always play mid or safelane.
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>>121456060
How to fix Lich for 6.86

Chainfrost now also deals its damage and slow in a 300 AOE each time it hits a target.

The Chainfrost can now also bounce on Lich, dealing the AOE damage only to enemies, but does not use up a bounce.

BAM

VIABLE
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>>121455992
>hey guys i memed against some scrubs
Let me tell you something you little shit. Oracle's skillset is built for supporting. He exists solely to stun enemies, hand out teamfight nukes, zone, heal, and save his carry. Just because icefrog is an autist retard who thinks your dps (lol???) build is meme of the year doesn't mean you aren't grossly misusing the hero. Fuck you. Fuck icefrog. Fuck this fucking game. I want my oracle back.
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>>121456143
for you
:3
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>>121456174
>The Chainfrost can now also bounce on Lich, dealing the AOE damage only to enemies, but does not use up a bounce.
aghs upgrade or we osfrog
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>>121456172
Should I focus on pushing or teamfights?
What if team already picked 4 carries?
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>>121456176
>stun
how?
>zone
how?
>heal
lmfao ok
>save your carry
nobody said you cant use ult on other cores you dipshit
>>
>>121456024
>Sacrifice now works on towers

bam viable
>>
>>121456284
no bully pls.
>>
>>121456176
>He exists solely to stun enemies
He cannot stun without items.
>hand out teamfight nukes
That's the carry's job.
>zone
With what?
>heal
He doesn't have a heal.
>and save his carry
With what? A nuke that only gives a net heal after 9 seconds? Or with a spell that doesn't actually remove any damage?
>I want my oracle back.
Your oracle never existed.
>>
>wake up
>no fluffiestbunny stream

why even live
>>
>>121456284
>sacrifice now works on both enemy or allied units
>you can now sacrifice heroes
>you can sacrifice roshan
aghs upgrade
you can sacrifice the throne
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>australians go to be
>/d2g/ starts talking about dota and esports again

My favourite time of day
>>
>>121456356
too bad that niggers sacrifice your mom's pussy to their dicks everyday
>>
>>121456347
pointless after she stopped showing boobs
may as well watch helenalive
>>
>>121456419
>mfw spamming mid lich
>mfw some redditor will get assburned
>mfw they will complain
>mfw lich nerfed
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>>121456261

1. Take the farm you need, which often means a lot of solo pushing. For example, if you are luna, you may avoid fighting until you have bkb+helm. So just tp to empty lanes and farm/push. It's hard to get outplayed when you are items ahead of their carry.

2. If team has already picked 4 carries, play support. It's way too hard to win otherwise. Get something with lots of disable. Lion, Witch Doctor, Lina are all game winning supports
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>>121456198
glad to be spreading the prophets word on HOTD
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>>121456327
nah mate, loch just fucking needs buffs to his other shit like fucking more armor on frost armor and add magic resist to it and something to frost blast to make it a non generic nuke
>>
>>121456003
Rat dota until your teammates are worth a shit.
>>121456274
I'm sort of trying to be funny rn dont be so serious bruh
But seriously, Oracle's quas is a stun and a purge. It makes him a beautiful counterpick against shit like omni or ursa. He has a good range and fast attack speed for zoning, but his base damage is piss poor. The nuke is stupid, it shouldnt be the way it is and this patch has totally fucked oracle. His edict no longer amplifies, making it near useless offensively. Building oracle mid or as a carry is waste of farm, he's squishy and has bad damage and he's infinitely more valuable as a position 5.
>>121456346
>oracle doesnt have a stun
>oracle doesnt have a heal
Have you ever played oracle?
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>>121456024
okay how about this

>chain frost reworked from 280 / 370 / 460 *(370 / 460 / 550) damage
to instead
>180 / 220 / 260 *(220 / 260 / 300) primary damage
>100 / 150 / 200 *(150 / 200 / 250) aoe damage
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>>121456497
>>121456523
I also noticed that russian sides are better than EU sides. Is it worth to play in russian teams against Eu teams? (sorry bad english)
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>>121456176
Let me tell you something you little shit. Oracle's skillset is built for carrying. He exists solely to nuke enemies, hand out teamfight disarms, focus down targets like some kind of ranged ursa with his 1.4 BAT, annihilate towers, save himself and sometimes heal in the offtime when no teamfights occur. Just because you are an autist retard who thinks le INT champ = suport(lol???) is meme of the year doesn't mean you aren't grossly misusing the hero. Fuck you. Fuck reddit. Fuck this fucking game. I want my oracle back.
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>>121456505
you will do it m8
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>>121456505
>be safelane carry
>ally gladly buys courier/wards and picks support and zones enemy
>he never takes a single creep bounty and only denies
>he shares tangos and salves and clarities and upgrades courier
>I get hotd at 5 minutes
>go to jungle and send a creep back to lane
>XD XDDX LOOK AT ME LAST HIT AS DAZZXLE
>I FITE UR CREEP FOR LAST HITS LOLOLMAO
>U GET NO GOLD
>FUCK UUUUUUUOOOO
>CARRY DAZSLXZLE ARRAWAWWR
>I DO NOTHING BUT SIT IN LANE HIT CREEP
>XD XD X:^))))
>I REPORT U FOR TAKE MY FARM X:))^))^))^)^)^)^ U GOT JUNGLE Y U NEED LANE LMAO REPOSTED
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>>121456538

Check >>121456174

It should be more interesting than just buffing the damage values.
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>>121456523
oracle with 3 points in nuke and 2 in purge hits harder than 3 razes from sf and has more range for that
also you now can buy octameme and be like a skywrath with undodgable projectile that deals shitton of damage if used rightly
just chainin lvl 4 flames purge and flames again is around 850 damage
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>>121456523
Have you?
>stun
Like holy shit, people can even attack and blink through Fortune's End, even roots don't allow that.
>heal
If you consider a net heal of 36 that you need to wait 9 seconds for to be a good heal then sure, he does have a heal.
>inb4 le couple it with your disarm spell meme
great baddazzle there fag
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>>121456629
Fuck if i know. I'm american, playing against anyone not american is pain.
I like the chinese. They're good at dota. Russians are insufferable asspipes, but the chinese players are just good.
Go cdec.
>>121456632
>already a pasta
This is exactly what i wanted
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>>121456810
outplayed me ;-(((((
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>>121456716
so you want it to be a better eclipse / omnislash?

>oh look lich caught me alone in the jungle and blinked on top of me, time to take 3000 magic damage at level 6 lmao
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>>121456174
Lich will always be a shitty support
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>>121456716

>hero has an alright ult, but shit normal abilities so they are limited by one cooldown in ANY fight
>keep buffing that ult

That's what gets you Doom v2.0. Fix his regular shit abilities.
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>>121456174
4th highest win rate in the 5k bracket
needs fixing

OK.jpeg
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>>121456904
just for you to realize
dooms ult got no buffs
his base skills did
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>>121456761
>they can attack through quas
HOLY SHIT THIS IS WHAT EDICT WAS FOR. IT AMPLIFIED THE DAMAGE QUAS DID, AND STOPPED ENEMIES FROM ATTACKING. FUCK.
>36Hp heal
Are you retarded? Edict then purify, edict stops the damage. Why the fuck cant these people read? Buy an urn and use it on someone you ult, it doubles the heal.
If you cant be bothered to press literally two buttons and use the hero to the fullest of his abilities at his most useful position, just go play viper.
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>>121456904
I think we've got a sub 1k here
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>>121456954

REKT
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>>121456904
Do you even watch the game? Not even play, just watch?
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>There are people who think Octarine Core isn't core on Bristleback
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>>121456904
imho frosty nova (it's called frost blast actually? lame, he's pretty much ladder lich from wc3 and there it was frost nova) should have more range, 600 feels like melee range for a spell
maybe give it a variable channeling time if cast over 600 units to the new maximum range
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>>121457093
>there are people who think bristleback can be played at all despite being the SINGLE LOWEST WINRATE hero at the 5k+ bracket
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>>121457093
It's core on everyone even if it's bad and no one wants it, it's called Octarine Fucking CORE.
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>>121457125
>talking about brackets you're not even in
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>>121457125
Good fuck that hedgehog
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>>121457121
what if

>chain frost removed and replaced with a new skill

>Death and Decay
>2000 cast range, channeling, 800 aoe, 250 mana cost, 140/120/100 cooldown
>all units in the aoe take 6/9/12% of their max hp as pure damage per second
>works on towers
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>>121457013
>IT AMPLIFIED THE DAMAGE QUAS DID
and stopped the damage from further flames, lmao good job retardo derpello
>Edict then purify, edict stops the damage
as i said, nice baddazzle you have there
>Buy an urn and use it on someone you ult, it doubles the heal.
you mean double that 20 hp soul release managed to heal before it was removed by autoattacks since you're using it as a BadShallowGrave
>If you cant be bothered to press literally two buttons and use the hero to the fullest of his abilities
how ironic
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>>121457013
edict didnt amplify magic damage kiddo
also before edict nerf i didnt want to edict my fuckin carry so he coulndt attack (lmfao) and die because laguna blade would hit for1400 pure damage (lmaoing @ you)
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>>121457125
>ignoring the fact that VG just won a game with it
I'm sure your trenchbracket analysis matters though
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>>121456954
>>121457087
>>121457029

>keep buffing doom's ult
>trashcan
>actually work to change his dumpster regular abilities
>suddenly good, did more more than ult buffs ever did
>has to get ult AND regular abilities nerfed
>back to dumpster

Literally 100% proves my point.
FIX THE REGULAR ABILITIES
STOP FINGERING YOUR ANUS OVER ULT CHANGES
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>>121457274
>edict didnt amplify magic damage kiddo
not that guy but
mathematically it did, but simultaneously reduced it to zero because of multiplication by 0 :v)
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>>121417952
abbadon
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>>121417952
DAZZLE

ps I fucking hate the item sange and yasha, it seems like it's a totally worthless item
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>>121457093
Holy shit lol
The cooldown must be like 0 on everything.
>>121457259
>he cant purifying flames in 2 seconds when the edict ends
Lol
>>121457274
Oracle is a high risk high reward hero. In fights, you can mek or ult heroes, then heal them with urns and combos. Typically tho, you edict them out of fights for heals, mostly in laning phase. Oracle is one of the best laning supps in the game. His heal is a disable, just like wyvern, another of the best supports in the game. If you seriously cant figure it out idk what to tell you bruh, go read a book.
Also, edict amplified magic damage in 6.84 and prior. Thats another reason why its meant to be an out of fight/lane heal.
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>>121457390
what you mean?
i use to play oracle since they relased him and trough all the patches i never seen his purge deal damage trough the edict (consider it wasnt even purgable until.85)
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>digniggers is now literally a team full of niggers

cannot make this shit up
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I did not
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>>121457575

Aui pls
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>>121457524
>anything greater than 0 * 0.75 = 0
typical oracle = support supporter
>>he cant purifying flames in 2 seconds
so almost the entire cooldown duration?
nice
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Guys, what if you could kill your own allies?
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>>121457547
My apologies, it amplified non magical damage. Per 6.85 patch notes:
> Fate's Edict no longer amplifies incoming non-magical damage
This makes it more viable as a heal i guess, tho its still a disable so you shouldnt use it in fights. But makes it worthless offensively. It doesn't last long enough to matter as a disable except for in lane when you want to stop someone from last hitting, and theres no amplified damage now. The only reason you would use edict in a fight is defensively, since it grants magic resistance.
>>121457860
Dude, do what you want, but you're sorta grossing me out and I'm sad about my favorite hero.
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oh shit.. one of us?!
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>>121457524
>Also, edict amplified magic damage in 6.84 and prior

6.85

Fortune's End icon.png Fortune's End
No longer has a 0.3 second cast time.
Increased cast range from 650 to 850.
Increased radius from 215 to 300.
Rescaled damage from 75/150/225/300 to 90/120/150/180.
Rescaled cooldown from 12 on each level to 15/12/9/6.
Fate's Edict icon.png Fate's Edict
No longer amplifies incoming non-magical damage by 50%.
Is now dispellable by any dispel, instead of only Fortune's End and spell immunity.
Reduced Purifying Flames icon.png Purifying Flames cooldown from 2.5 to 2.25.
6.84

Fortune's End icon.png Fortune's End no longer ignores ancient creeps, Roshan and creep-heroes.
Purifying Flames icon.png Purifying Flames
Reduced manacost from 55/70/85/100 to 50/60/70/80.
Reduced cooldown from 3 to 2.5.
Can now target non-hero units.
False Promise icon.png False Promise
No longer makes the target invisible.
Now continuously removes debuffs and disables, instead of only when first cast.
Reduced duration from 7/8/9 to 6/7/8.
Increased cooldown from 20 to 80/60/40.
6.79c

Increased Purifying Flames icon.png Purifying Flames manacost from 30/45/60/75 to 55/70/85/100.
6.79

False Promise icon.png False Promise
Reduced cast range from 1500 to 1000.
Increased manacost from 100 to 200.
6.78

Created.

can't see it
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>>121457931
You can
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>>121457931
I must harm to heal
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>>121457958
>6 seconds of enemy carry not rightclicking unless they pop bkb
>worthless offensively
really anon
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>>121457981
>Facebook frog
>>
what happened to barnyyy guys i miss him
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>>121457931
What if there was friendly fire on all abiltities?
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>>121458146
>what happened to barnyyy guys i miss him

fuck off barny you autistic shit
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>>121457931

What about effectively killing your team by taking all their farm?
>>
been away from here for 2 months. i watched the big events but wasnt able to check in here. hows it been?
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>>121458187
Enigma worst hero in the game
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>tfw you're bad at dota
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>>121458187

This hero would STILL be garbage AND not fun
YOU
ARE
TEMPORARILY
ANNOYED
>>
Play nessaj mid for free mmr guys. Don't tell anyone about this secret.
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>>121458358
I know you think you're unemotional and that 'tilt' is something that happens to only the most rambunctious of professional players, but you're tilting hard and not realizing it. Put the game down, come back in a few days.
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Is /d2g/ high test?
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>>121458090
>gives them 100% magic resistance
>NO LONGER AMPLIFIES PHYSICAL DAMAGE
Its situational to say the least.
Let's play a game of what if:
You're support Oracle and your team consists of a pudge, cm, legion and uhh, a clockwerk. The enemy team has luna, lina, lion, mirana and nightstalker.
Theres a 5v5, full on teamfight. Everyones there, this fight wins the hypothetical game. Pudge, your beefy carry, gets disabled immediately and you know you lose the fight if he doesnt get some damage off. Do you
A) edict him, giving him magic resistance but stopping him from hitting for 6 seconds, and then purifying flames for a heal
Or
B) edict one of the enemy heroes targeting him, giving them magic resistance for six seconds, but no right click? It's not even a silence. Did you build an orchid? (You should btw)
If B, do you expect your team to understand you effectively just bkb'd the enemy and they shouldn't use spells on them until they can right click again, effectively using your edict as a sort of wash?
Its good offensively in early game, during laning. You stop heroes from last hitting. But in teamfights its better defensively.
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>>121458557

Thanks Mr. Skeltal
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>>121458557
I puked a little

Goddamnit james
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>>121458557

Right here
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>>121458575
>Pudge, your beefy carry
lose because pudge can't carry
didn't even read after that part
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>>121458313
Pretty dead
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No women casts or hosts, Nice game dotards.
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>>121458557
Literally who
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>>121439515
>"TP is bad on NP"
>there are people THIS bad
>these are the people you risk being matched with.
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>>121458626
>>121458646
>implying you wouldn't
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>>121458861
fuck off akke
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>>121458893
I may be a virgin, buy I still have standards
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>>121458905
>trying to make Akke relevant
fuck off charlie
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>>121458575
>pudge, beefy, carry in single sentence
ok, there are literal normal skill posters right here
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>>121459221
WE NEED TANK
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Why are dotards so misogynistic?
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>>121459239
>tfw no squishy int omega support using the siege tank model
>>
Hey this vid sorta talks about oracles problems https://youtu.be/NArvU-OagB4
You cant play oracle with other int heroes really. Oracles strength is in having clutch saving abilities that synergize with eachother really well, and the last two patches have nerfed the fuck out of him (when he was one of the lowest played, lowest winning heroes) and now his abilities don't nearly synergize as well.
To make up for this, frog buffed his nuke and gave his stun some bells and whistles, so now oracle can be le carry hero. Except thats not what he was meant to do, its not why his abilities have great synergy, or why they amp and nerf damages, why they used to be great for saving allies. This patch has effectively ruined oracle. I don't know if he'll ever even get to be in draft.
>>121458460
OD is also one of my faves and i wish more people loved him
>>121458805
Talk about missing the point.
>>
>Be brood
>Take 4 towers by 18 minutes
>Take racks by 24 minutes
>Look at team's inventory, weep
>Lose
I want to strangle these fucking retards.
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>>121459042
M-maybe we could lose our virginity together, s-senpai
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>will be less than 15k (or 10k for yuros) per person after taxes and cyborgmatt / etc's cut
>had to fly overseas and reveal all their strats
>meanwhile other teams are winning millions without having to travel
hell of a honeypot lan
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>>121459448
Oh looks its this guy again
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>>121459448
>>
>>121459387
there was no point to begin with
you dropped the fucking ball anon
>>
BURDENING YOUR SOULS
>>
>>121459387
>Except thats not what he was meant to do
So you're an authority higher than Icefrog in deciding what a hero is supposed to do?

START MAKING HL3 YOU FAT FUCK REEEEEEEE
>>
>Burdening

top lel
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>>121459448
>yuro team LITERALLY owned by a muslim
>players probably didn't even get a cut of the platry winnings
>>
BURNING

THE LEGEND
>>
>>121459387
If you want oracle to be a support then removing damage amp was a huge buff to your playstyle.
>>
>Burning wanders alone with all heroes gone
>graph turns from organic looking squiggly line to nearly vertical straight line
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>Burning
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>>121459387
Oracle can alter fate for a few seconds, which suits exactly with his lore.
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>>121459513
There was a pretty central and apparent topic, but your reading comprehension is at about a chamber of secrets level, so i don't discount you for not understanding. This is dota after all, english probably isn't even your first language.
>>
People haven't accepted Shitrekt winning the Honeypot LANS?

Oh my.
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>echoslam comes off cooldown
>Burning instantly dies without even a frame to react
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Hey, lets give a hero max attack speed, 100% evasion, A free haste rune and a slow as well. Oh, don't forget the 2600 range 360 damage nuke and 4 second disable.

That sure seems balanced to me.
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reminder that they kicked based ogre for hao and burning
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>>121459830
"I'm fantastic!"
>>
>>121459830
what is Ursa even for anymore
>>
WHERE IS THE NEW HERO GABEN
>>
how long does it take to get 50lvl on new account
>>
>caster can't see an Ice Blast slowly launched on his screen
>Burning can't see an Ice Blast slowly launched from where he should be looking (ie not the fucking fountain)
>>
>>121459830
Let's slap a "support" tag on the hero description then, 99% of the playerbase of this game will never even accept playing that hero as a carry, so she will never be discovered to be broken.
>>
>>121459859
fnatic is so bad they lost to mineski
>>
>>121459962
Levels are just for show in this game, I hope you know that
>>
Nice echoslam
>>
>>121459751
alright, i'll respond seriously then

i continue to feed couriers down mid lane like i've been doing since 10 minute mark because there's no actual carry on the team and i'd rather move on to the next match
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>>121457481
its like a mini skadi
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>>121460032
Probably told his friend at school he's level 50, but really only plays bot games.
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Pick me mates.
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>>121459718
That works well with about two heroes. And i cant force my friends to play huskar just so i can have fun.
>>121459652
Nope. The damage amp was huge, you could play oracle with a team of physical damage heroes and stomp. And when his ult actually saved fucking anyone, he was basically a way better version of dazzle who could synergize with wyvern. But now he cant save. He cant amp damage. Oh boy tho, our extremely fucking squishy buddy sure can nuke on his own! Past 20 minutes it's useless unless you build him as a carry, in which case you're taking farm as a higher position hero, which is wasting farm, because you're still super duper fucking squishy and your ult cant save.
>>
>>121458557
>Be a woman
>have no tits

pathetic desu
>>
>>121459982
Wut
>>
Ember Spirit and Tinker are well known.

But did you forget about the last part of the FARM VACUUM holy trinity?
MOTHERFUCKING BREWMASTER

"ITS A KEGGAH"
[translator's note: 'KEGGAH' means 'GAME TO LOSE']
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>>121460101
>>121460101
new thread
>>
Why chinese dota is so fucking rigged? Why would someone pick Brewmaster?
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7 Days left until the first relevant Post-TI5 LAN.
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>>121460126
DFC IS JUSTICE
>>
>>121460371
t. pedophile
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>>121460106
buy glimmer then
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>>121460172
how about you go fuck yourself
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>>121460101
>>121460101
>>121460101
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>>121457121
Here is the thing about WC3 ladder heroes.
Most of them are great heroes.
Heck, even just Blademaster with reworking stat + skill scaling would fit perfectly into dota.
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>>121443389
Puppey is literally the /best/ support
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