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Marignon Edition

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.
>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JMmSrpdE

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is ded.

There is no functional pirate version.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the pastebin
>Read the memes

>I want to play X
Heavy infantry nations with simple magic for noobs: MA Ulm, Abysia, LA Man

Human nations with a lot of diversity: T'ien Ch'i (any age), Arcoscephale (EA and LA), EA Ermor

Giant nations with a major bless: Niefelheim, Fomoria, Ashdod

Necromancy: C'tis, Sceleria, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Lemuria, Nazca

Sneaky Nations: Vanheim, TNN, Eriu, MA Man, Xibalba, Caelum

Edge Nations: Lanka, Sauromatia, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Hinnom
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1st for snaek bathtime
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>>121409134
Thank you for the thematic OP pic.

-not-anime shitposters
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>>121409134
Since we've got a new thread...

THE /domg/ VGL5 ROSTER POLL: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Rsld_itoPjuMBprvPGUclmn0ZPu6fZs5JFtLgsELNwg/viewform

Poll results: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Rsld_itoPjuMBprvPGUclmn0ZPu6fZs5JFtLgsELNwg/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm
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>>121409742
Can you fuck off already?
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>>121409928
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+filter+trips+on+4chan
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how useful is EA caelum rushing conjuration and going for the national summons + elemental royalty + tarrasque and go full meme mode using them as SCs?
Also which one is caelum's late game strategy other than thunder spam?

other than that, are tarrasque as good as they seem or are they just a noob trap? 25 nature gems for a SC chassis seems pretty good
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>>121410246
EA Caelum can actually do really well for a long time without their summons
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>>121410246
Tarrasques are big meat shields, nothing more. They're hard to tug around because of MM1 and can be tricky to place for most armies due to their poison aura. There's better ways to spend nature gems, in short.
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>>121410246
Tarrasques are a trap and don't come summoned as a commander
>no magic
>shit slots
>shit defence
>not fatigue neutral
>shit map move
>poison cloud so mages can't buff it without poison res
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>>121410493
Oh, thanks anon. you avoided me some time and disappointment.

Also speaking of that, I usually find myself not being able to use all of my gems other than forging vine shields and other magic items. Is there a thumb rule for which ones are the best ways to spend them?
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>>121410635
They are expensive and have limited use but I wouldn't really call them a trap.

There's a place for one or two 200 hp units in any army. I'd rather get leviathans at half the price half a game earlier though.

>>poison cloud so mages can't buff it without poison res
Eh, if you are at conj 9 you can probably spare an extra 3 gems to give your mage a ring or just cast an army wide buff.
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>>121410908
You can just use vine ogres for evo catchers if you really cared. Tree Lords and Ivy Kings seems a much better use of gems in comparison.
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>>121411092
Harder to hit one-two units than a whole stack of them, especially under precision debuffs.
It's pretty neat to see a large stack of shit missing 90% of the shots trying to hit two units on the side of the map.
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>>121411369
Vine Ogres have so much health it doesn't really matter though and you can get 16 of them for the price of 1 tarrasque
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>>121410246
Caelum's summons are NOT SC they are thugs and or big battlefield blasters/buffers
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>>121412702
>they are thugs
Their stats seem kinda low for thugs
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>>121412821
Exactly. If they're low to thug think about sending one of them up against a mage supported army.
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>>121412821
Ehh People use Dakinis all the time to raid/thug, they are totally fine.Not talking about Yazads though those things will die to one frozen heart
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I understand we have a lot of time until the next turn hosts, but you're the only one left who hasn't done their turn, TheNoobening Abysia
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>>121417854
Actually, this message was meant for Bullshit Djesse.
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>>121409134

fukkin' saved
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>>121418053
What? No, it's for Abysia
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>>121410246

There's pretty much nothing in conj that caelum actually wants. You want fog warriors, wrathful skies, phantasmal army, storm, tstrike, in roughly reverse that order. You go conj largely to pick up exciting mages to cap thrones with for stealth birdman thronecap victory. Living Air isn't bad. Better than phantasmal army when you need a big pile of bullshit to slow enemies down with.
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>>121418225
Please stop trying to hijack my message. It's for Djesse.
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>>121418840
>>121418053
Who the fuck is Djesse
>>121417854
This clearly says Abysia
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>>121418840
No it's for SmallFish Ctiss
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>>121418421
some early conj is appropriate for Summon Storm Power
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>>121419020

Oh yes, certainly. But the first few levels in a school are basically free. I mean any actual deep investment of RP in it. I keep forgetting that noobs might think that absolutist thinking can actually be applied to dom4 in any way.
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is it ever worth taking wraith of god outside high dominion turmoil 3 nations?
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>>121419615
Honestly, I don't know. I have one running for 10-something turns in one of my games, and I have absolutely no idea how effective it is. I mean, it kills 80 and wounds 160 guys per turn, but those may as well be longdeads or militia.

Now, maybe if you combine it with Foul Air...
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>>121419841
>foul air, wraith of god, vengeful waters, and Dark skies

>becoming one of the most pain in the ass dominions possible especially if your a pop kill nation

I Know it's pretty much impossible in a real game but...
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>>121419615

I've never been impressed with the spell.

Even Perpetual Storm with a non-air nation seems like a better idea.
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>>121419615
If you're just trying to shake up a full global roster, it's probably better than Dispel, and if you stumble upon being able to cast it, hey, why not

I mean, it's probably worth two golems
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>>121414610
Dakinis cost slaves, fly, have life drain, and can use all the air buffs they want.
Most importantly they cost slaves, which are a lot cheaper than gems.
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>>121420169
Wrath of God takes S pearls
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>>121420130
M8, Foul Air works for the whole map, and even against the player who cast it.

It's basically single wound ("wound" is some % of hitpoints, as far as I remember) = unit diseased.
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here's a question: does fires from afar do more damage to units with fire weaknesses?
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>>121418949
Yeah, but it was meant for Djesse, because it perfectly describes him. Please stop dumbposting, it's not cute.
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>>121421040

>guy tries to hijack some other person's post to be le ememelordo
>it backfires
>calls everyone else dumb

Alright.
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>>121420758
Yes.It also deals less / no damage to units with fire resistance.
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>>121421040
So Djesse also hasn't put in his turn yet on your game, alright.
Why didn't you just make another post saying that? Nothing's being described. Do you even know what you're replying to or are you just trying to troll?
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>>121420758
The better question is: why is fires from afar so shit?
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>>121420758

Yes.
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>>121421213
When did the guy asking about abysia call everyone dumb?
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>>121421374
because it cost 10 gems. if it was 5 gems it would be just fine
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>>121421415
You just got memed son
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>>121421374
>>121421828
Cast it on research centers instead of trying to kill chaff via rituals
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>>121421415
Someone said they're waiting on Abysia to do a turn in thenoobening game, and then someone tried to hijack the post saying it describes someone else in a completely different game, I guess. It doesn't look like there was anything said about anyone though, so I don't get it.
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>>121421872
>>121421040
>>121418840
>>121418053
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>>121422309

Some guy posted about someone being late with their turn.

Some other guy said it was actually about some other person.

Then the first guy came back and was like 'no, it's not'

Then the second guy was like 'lol no it was i'm right don'tlookatme'

And the first guy kept arguing, and the second guy kept trying to act like he was right

Basically what you'd expect of domg's autism. Two autistic people, one of whom is trying to be an edgy memelord, and the other who is not realizing this.
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>>121422756
So basically what you're saying is we need more Forrester Bob
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>>121422990
The only good thing that ever happened to this wretched general
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>>121423063
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>>121423063
You're asking for a stabbin, m8
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>>121423241
You mean Djesse is dildos, right?
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>>121422990
>>121423063

I like Forester Bob. It's funny, interesting, and had some decent art. Which I don't have any more. Could people post some up?

Compared to 'ANIME WAIFUS' and edgy memelording, it's vastly better. Actually dominions related, not too serious, funny.

I've been personally trying to find some good pictures to make some 'the elves are coming' memes. Like 'fuck, hide, the elves are coming' because that happens a lot in this game. Scary blood-mad glamour assholes all through your shit while you try desperately to get them off you.
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>>121423513
does /domg/ have any drawfags?
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>>121423682
I know we have at least one, since he posted his art in the steam group. Pretty good, too.
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>>121423513
You could edit the nazgul in the roadside scene of Fellowship of the ring to be a Vanjarl
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>>121423682

I drew lewds once, but I havent attempted doing any since then.
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>>121409373
Is it named Earth Snake?
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I finally got to see Reincarnation in action.
my yogi had 1 exp star and was assassinated (thanks bats) and he essentially just reappeared in my cap.
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Does fire rear ignore commanders?
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>>121431951
That's cool. I thought that you needed a higher level to actually reincarnate as the same thing. Maybe it's RNG based
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>>121432276
It doesn't exist.
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>No turns
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>>121433406
It exists on Mind Lords
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>>121432276
>>121433406
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>>121436548
I didn't know that. That's neat.
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>>121435961
fashionably late just got 1
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>>121437867
Fashionably late can suck my fashionably large dick you nerd

Who the fuck are the Griffins even besides that cartoon show

Are you a fat family guy is that what you're saying? Fucking faggot I hate you.
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>>121439197
In the previous thread, we have discovered two members of our community have Asperger's Syndrome. Congratulations on broadcasting that you are the third.
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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Please submit /domg/ games you've participated in! I can clear out repeats pretty easily, but this community obviously doesn't have substantive records that aren't kept in your archived emails and memory, since most games dont have signup lists or anything
/domg/ games currently listed:
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LuxInvicta
WorldWarEnd
WirelessWizards2
WorldWarCrone
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NoModOrBuddha
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ItsNeverEarlyToGoAI
domgMAgame
Persia
BigBlogClub
LegendarySnailTales
4ChanFlustercluck
Chalice Of Salt
AINTRAND
FreakyCrones

Results:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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goodnight /domg/
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Just a note for those editing the wiki, especially the gentleman editing the EA Agartha page: A blow-by-blow breakdown of every unit in a roster is not a "strategic overview." Take that to a guide.
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>>121440627
Fuck you, man, I like autism in my wiki pages.
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>>121439197
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>>121439197
>he doesn't know about griffins
ho ho ho.
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>>121440627

A Breakdown of each unit for a nation that explains all the various tags and whatnot is something that go in the general wiki section.
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Holy balls, my dude who won the arena tourney now has like 30 defence.
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>>121442051
Looks like someone got SWOLE
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>>121442051
A hero worthy of song!
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>>121442051
Got a screenshot of the dude and stats?
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Say I wanted to create a map with exactly one province per player. Is this possible? If so, how?
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>>121445746
>Is this possible?
Yes.
>If so, how?
Figure out how many players you're going to have, then make a map with that many provinces.
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>>121445875
Yeah, I just tried that, doesn't work.

Crashes on startup most of the time, can not find legal starting position. This is with thrones off. It's also crashed once saying something and something had a shared capital.
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>NoModOrBuddha

That was my first PBEM. I have fond memories of my stand against R'lyeh and Atlantis.

I'll try to go through and submit all the games I've been in. Off the top of my head I remember that I won an MA game called MAting Dance as Nazca right when they came out
(full name was really long, something like MAting Dance of some bird or something iirc)
and I won NewPBEMThatIsn'tNatGen as MA Pythium.
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>>121445875
Here's an example. Ten player map with eleven provinces. Ten players on the map, yet a province right next to my capital is not used. When I end my turn it crashes giving the message "bc: p7 shares capital with p5"
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>>121446001
some provinces might be automarked as nostart due to not enough connections
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>>121446241
They are all manually marked as start except for the center.
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>>121446350
Make it a scenario map then.
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>>121446350
Is that empty blue province UW? That's all I got
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>>121446439
What's the victory condition number for conquer all?
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>>121447189
Land nations only, land provinces only.

It still does it, even when I set it to scenario.

Like it'll give two nations the same capital even though there's an available spot on the map.
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Upon further testing, this seems to be a map generation error.
Most of the time it'll fuck up, but sometimes it'll magically succeed.
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>>121440627
what's a good refence page for writing a wiki page for a nation? i might do Pangea today
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>>121447890

Godspeed.
I like the idea of having succint troop overviews in the strategy section, since the idea is that it'll explain what certain troops do a little better. I'd also recommend taking a look at that "How each nation changes through the ages" picture that keeps floating around here so you can make any fluff edits.

But generally, talk about the nations strengths, its weaknesses, and give an explanation for all relevant mechanics and/or special abilities. A Pan page should probably include at least a link to the awe and seduction pages, as well as mention the fact that your dominion summons bitches.

I use the EA Niefelheim page, for whatever its worth.
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>>121447821
i had trouble placing 2 capitals even on Talis, which is a well-made 2 starting provinces map made for 1vs1.

the game seems to have a 20% chance to fuck up capital placement and place 2 in the same spot.
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http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Agartha_(Early_Ages)

EA Agartha mostly done. Need to add a sentence or two explaining the scrying you can do with earth mages, as well as actually test out what BREAK THE SEAL really does. As well, we need to link to some of the many guides for it.

Am trying to leave the strategy overview as just an explanation of the various mechanics of the nation, with the numerous guides actually giving some opinion. The wiki page will bring up that Agarthans have Cold Blood, and ideally the guide will mention that a pretender should go heat 3.

Lemme know if you find anything wrong with it.
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>>121448570
Maybe make a reference to their magic access in the strategic overview (Deep earth, shallow death/water/fire). Might also be worth mentioning that they have efficient national summons.

Honestly, this is a solid entry though. Great job.
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>>121448570
>The wiki page will bring up that Agarthans have Cold Blood, and ideally the guide will mention that a pretender should go heat 3.
The wiki should mention that taking heat scales can mitigate the downsides of cold blood and thus can be considered an advisable scale. That's well within the realm of the sufficiently objective.
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>>121448570
>as well as actually test out what BREAK THE SEAL really does

You get over a hundred Umbrals, (Or penumbrals, whichever the little guys are), darkness persists for a few turns, and the 3 god vessels appear in random places and then halfassedly wander towards capitals, though they don't necessarily choose the capital they're closest to

killing a God Vessel unleashes a Legion of Gods
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>>121448408
This percentage seems to increase as the amount of provinces and players increases.
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>>121448771
You get a fair few of the big ones too.
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What is the difference between amphibious and poor amphibian beyond the manuals "lol poor amphibians are worse underwater."

Does anyone have any actual stats?

>>121448743
That's a good thought. I'll throw in a blurb, and make the Cold Blooded page so there will be something more indepth about it.
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>>121448969
It's an attack, defense, and AP penalty. I'd have to double check, but I think it's either 4 or 6.
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>>121449048
it's -3

BUT underwater is also dark so I believe you're right in that the net penalty to attack and defense for your average dude is -4 in shallow ocean and -6 in deep
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>>121449048
Just checked, it's -3 attack and defense. It's hard to tell what the AP penalty is, since some of my units are showing base 11 reduced to 4, some are showing base 11 reduced to 5, and the base 6 soulless are reduced to 3. I think it's -6 capped at a minimum AP of 3, and that the ones reduced to 4 are being slowed by armor.
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>>121449253
Are you sure that shallow oceans have a darkness penalty? I know deep oceans do.
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>>121449365
I just checked, regular sea seems darkness free
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Does anyone know the actual mechanics of rusting underwater, or do we just vaguely know that ferrous stuff rusts underwater.
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>>121448771
>>121448743
>>121448718
thanks for all yalls help.

http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Agartha_(Early_Ages)
updorted version.

had to add a couple of pages, but did mention some basic scales regarding cold blooded, sometihng about the Halls of the oracles, and found a guide on desura i linked to.

any criticisms?
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>>121431951
i said i'm sorry ;_;
i just wanted the nature gems, and the fucking dogs are even buttraping my bats too. Literally 7 attacks (one of them assassination attempt)
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>>121452387
>Losing 7 provinces to indy attacks

What are you even doing with your life.
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>>121452387
>tfw I had only one attack (two if you count shitty failed assassinations)
This is fine desu.
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Stale pan-chan, are you there? do you want me to kill those werewolves in your cap ring so you can capture it with a flying scout? I don't know if you can get to there easily
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>>121452640
Yeah, go for it.
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>>121452690
anon, why would you try to meme me?
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http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Abysia_(Late_Ages)

Working on LA Aby now because I just click the random button. General cry for help, strats, tips, etc.
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>>121452640
No it's fine I'll take it back once summer rolls in

Maybe even seduce me some hot werewolf bitches
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>>121447312
That sounds very typical of dom4, actually.
How much would you give for dom4 to be open sourced?
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1. Is there anything I can summon to claim thrones? The map is pretty big and my pretender and prophet can't be everywhere.

2. The map is huge and I need to spread my dominion around. If my priests are weak and I have basically no dominion far from my home provinces is Enchanted Forests a good thing to cast?
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>>121459071

Bishop fish. Conj6.
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>>121459071
>2. The map is huge and I need to spread my dominion around. If my priests are weak and I have basically no dominion far from my home provinces is Enchanted Forests a good thing to cast?

build lot of temples even in your most protect, inland provinces. hae an astral2 earth 2 mage craft lot of stone idols and one of them to each scout , moving them in provinces of enemy dominion bordering your dominion.
if you are a nation that is able to blood sacrifice you should do it massively. if not the best you can do is to have level 2/ priests preach in low dominion provinces. if stealthy they can preach in enemy provinces. preaching is not that powerful unless you have holy 3 priests, because it has very little chance to succeed in high friendly or enemy dominion, it's just an option to acelerate the work of your temples.
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>>121459071
Enchanted Forests will give you a massive increase to dominion spread, but it's likely to piss off other players. Unless you're confident you can take on the world or you're playing against AI, don't cast it.

>>121459139
Hey, that's a really neat idea, I forgot about those.

>>121459820
>preaching is not that powerful unless you have holy 3 priests, because it has very little chance to succeed in high friendly or enemy dominion
Friendly dominion doesn't affect success chance, preachers just can't increase dominion above a certain level.
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>200 kitted Niefel Jarls
what do?
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>>121461041

200 mages casting life4life or leech.
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>>121461041
>>121461070
might need more than one life for life to kill them, but that's the basic idea.
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>>121461041
>>121461070

Oh or drain life but thats way harder to cast and more difficult to amass 200 mages capable of casting that. Also range compared to life4life.
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Is Asphodel as urgent to remove as Ermor?
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>>121461467
if they have loads of forest sure.
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I'm tired of playing lategame caster powers. If I just want to kekeke bless rush someone which nation should I play?
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>>121461852

Vanheim.
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Tribless ADF kailasa, max archers.
Have fun having wind guide+fire arrows since turn 1
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I want to try and actually win with EA R'lyeh in a multiplayer game. Do you think this can be done? My reasoning is that since the national troops are really awful the only way to salvage the nation is to focus on summoning with a dedicated rainbow. The fighting portion of the army will have to be mostly summons. Thus the pretender should be an oldschool rainbow capable of casting a lot of different spells.
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>>121409742
Since I finished doing my turns I went and collated the current standings:

11 Forester Bob
9 Erf Snek
9 itdepends
9 >stabbed by a methhead
9 Turnbullying
9 Quadbless Mictlan
8 2000 ghosts in a fort
8 Astral 1
8 Pankoman
8 Remove Elves
7 Bane Lord/Bane
7 Giant Man-Eating Jews
7 Have we checked on Ermor?
7 Scrub Club
7 Ulm - waiting for turn file
6 100 PD
6 Burden of Time
6 Heroic Obesity
6 Illfraud
6 Useless Kick
5 Desura Thug
-----Only two of the following get in:
4 Angry Stone Face
4 Asshole Batman
4 Lugh the Long Handed
4 >testing
-----Cutoff line
3 Illfraud's Cocaine Cruise
3 >Turn 1 Earthquake/Rain of Stones
3 Underwater Archers/UW Archer PD
2 >avg /domg/ pretender
2 Badminning
2 Bogus the Troll
2 BoT GET OUT REEEEEEE
2 Fresh Hot Stales
2 Olm Miscegnation
2 Poor Little Agartha
1 >Nationgen Balance
0 taking my ball and going home

The poll is still open, so if you haven't voted yet, go and throw in a vote for your favorite memes. Or don't, it's not like I can force you to.
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>>121461467
>>121461526
Speaking of Asphodel, how would you play it ? I want to try it, but I'm not sure about going full scales and dominion to get money and lots of free chaff, or to get a bless for black centaurs, or something else. Especially since they start with a shitty army and no scout, just a minotaur and a dead guy.
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>>121465579
Go W9, imprisoned so you have decent scales
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>>121448771
Somone said 90% of your capital dies too
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>trying to outchaff the chaff king

Cum on m8
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>>121465967

Also, Man, whatever you are planning to do with those troops stationed across the sea, if it involves me, I suggest you not do. I have triple that number waiting for you if you should you decide to come into my domain.

Instead, I suggest you do what you said you would do some turns back and attack Pangaea. They've been losing army after army to me and are very open to an attack. Better act now before I eat them up completely and leave you nothing, not even scraps.
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>>121465967
>armies without mage support
Is this AI vs AI?
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>>121466536
I haven't hit my ultra important supah secret research goal yet and Pan's are fucking expensive.
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>>121466536

My mages are otherwise preoccupied and it's not like I need them, had he mages or not.
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>>121452387
Bats is probably like 70 province big at this point.
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>>121462691
>needing air 9

just go air4 and getmore scales for buying more archers.
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>>121470653
A9 makes your shit not pincushions.
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I'm Fomoria with a shit ton of Air gems, what do I do with them besides using them in combat / boosters?
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>>121466536

Pan and Ermor, two nations blessed with cheap and abundant mages.

Besides, pan brought 7 mages with 250 troops. 250 troops is like pan detachment size, so it's heavily overmaged.
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>>121473826
Air queens, corpse constructs, great eagles for breaching forts
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>>121473826
Owl Quills, Creating Corpse Men, Casting Trade Wind on coastal provinces.Craft some Winged Shoes. Great Eagles/Draconians are pretty good for taking forts.
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TornVale is about to become an even greater clusterfuck than it already is, mark my words.
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>>121473826
I end up spending most of my gems on battle magic and mobility (winged shoes/CT) - if you still have gems, I think the Eagles and Corpse Constructs are the most economic uses, for sieges/blockers respectively.
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>>121477195
You have no idea.
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>>121442920
I'll grab one once I get home from work.
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>Best priests are commanders
>People keep thinking I'm about to attack them when I'm just trying to spread muh dominion

;_;
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>>121461041
Banefire is always the answer.
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>>121478374
I-I'm sorry monkeys, you looked awful menacing...
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>>121478168
>>121478168
am I the only player who actually uses there gems.
Just pumping out the useful boosters and good summons seems to use mine up pretty well.
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>>121478168
>20 more Dusk Elders or 413 lictors
>15 more golems
I guess you're still going to put them all in BoT, do you?
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>>121452387
Bats, is the throne we discussing the throne of beasts?
Because I want to stop this stupid shit asap.

Either way, I'm sending you are more detailed message.
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>>121480426
It's not going to stop though. Throne events end after some number of turns even if you recapture it from the initial player.
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Do not listen to Agarthan lies concerning bat province strength

Agartha wants to get rid of its ONLY CONTENDER for the ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY CAVE PROVINCES on the map

Half of the caves are controlled by Agartha already and we should probably remove them both
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>>121480571
Well fuck. Please don't fucking land on that fort i'm building way in the back please.
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>Singleplayer
>UW expansion is easy and fine
>Multiplayer
>Every UW province has either 16 prot powerhouses, size 4 trolls or a fucking kraken
>SHARK TRIBE TRITONS with THREE attacks and ENRAGE
>Fun
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>>121480746
My way into te caves gets me a few provinces before it runs into Ur, so it's fine
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>>121481342
>Ur
The connections on this map are all sorts of interesting.
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Sauro are you here? Can we talk?
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>>121481423
Yeah, will it be enough so that no-one is stuck helplessly on the other side of the map while bats rape everything? Only time will tell.
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>>121480991
best to just take land provinces then. or you will be a small fish
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Reminder that SOBEK DID NOTHING WRONG
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>No turns because Pan hired a druggie to assassinate amuys
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>>121481710
>everyone memes about me being in a strong position
>literally 70% of my provinces have between 5 and 15 income
>some of them have 2 or less income, and i have a literal 0 income province
>unironically literally no magic sites found after searching with my D2 commander
>i'm in cold land: the land of no cold blooded people allowed

s-sure, I'm strong ;_;
the only thing i have are a lot of provinces, which have less than 1000 population and aren't suited for blood hunt at all.

by the way, how are you guys doing?
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>>121473826
>>121474207
also staff of storms.
Air globals are also cool.

Air isn't one of the gem types there aren't many uses for.
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>>121480991
Trols and krakens are actually pretty weak. Amber and Shark tribe is scary though
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>>121489191
which ones are the less usable gems? water?
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>>121489528
Fire. Water isn't that great unless you have construction or thaumaturgy.
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>>121489528
Fire and Astral.
Fire can boost RP and summon some really shitty shit.
Astral can do things super late game or be converted into useful gems, it has a handful of good summons, but it requires high level mages and/or crosspaths to be truly useful.
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>>121489528
>>121490048
fire and water is right.
And it's not that they aren't useful, it's that they have limited uses.
Waters can make good things, but the list is short. Water bottles, brands and boosters is about it. With Vengeful waters being the other main use.
Fire has lanterns, fire in a jar. Fire helm are crappy boosters, but they are boosters. If you have things to cross the fire list the uses expand a lot in terms of construction though.
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What does /domg/ see as the most useful gem type, the one that they can literally never have enough of?
Death for me, even on a low to no death nation I always crave more Death gems, there are just so many good uses.
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>>121490518

Earth and nature are way better in big quantities.
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>>121490298
conversions, boosters, antimagic amulets, and such means pearls are pretty useful.
Even without high level casters I never find I have too many of them.
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume Ctiss is chain staling
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>>121490565
nature? which ones are the best ways to spend nature gems? i tend to spend them randomly with "summon animals" and shit like that
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>>121490518
>>121490565
earth, nature and death are probably top, though I'd put earth as the leader there.

Death becomes some you want a lot more of the more death you have access to, if you've only got death 1 with a little 2 you mainly want death gems to get more death power to start doing the death things. At higher death you can do so much.

Nature makes a few very good, useful and spamable items at just N2, and has couple of summons that are quite useful, but if you don't have thugs, need supply or the crosspaths it gives it's usefulness decreases.

Earth has a lot of different uses, I can't think of a nation that can use earth that doesn't want to be using all the earth gems it can get it's hands on.
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>>121491173
anything but summon animals
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>>121491358
b-but they are fun and random, don't you hate fun?
is faerie court a better choice? but that's pretty deep into conj
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>>121491173
list:
Thistle maces to turn all your nature mages better.
Boots and amulets to give reinigorate to your mages.
Vine shields for all of your thugs.
Bags of wine to solve all of your supply problems.
Troll tribe can get you into earth or death if you haven't already gotten there.

The sleeper is a great commander.
If you can do it, lamia queens unlock more paths.
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>>121491504
Pack of Wolves gives stealthy patrollers.
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>>121491504
Faerie Court is good, Lamias are probably the best troop and the good globals are: gift of health, enchanted forests, wild hunt, gift of natures bounty.

They need to be overcast though, which is the only time saving gems is reasonable.
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>>121491282
on this note. Air is funny in that at low air there isn't much use outside of quills, bows and winged boots.

But once you get a Air 4 you can consume air gems faster than you can earn them if the game isn't over. Boosters are things you want, trade winds, useful summons, staff of the storm, wind ride.
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>>121491504
vine ogres/vinemans
ivy kings
lamias
treelords
sleepers
worm that walks
GoR
all the nature globals
killer mantis
and call of the wild
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How do I host a conquest all game on llamaserver?
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>fenris' pelt
>unique
wait what?
i got that one from a indie province in stalewarriors, does that mean no one can craft it anymore? i didnt know it was that good
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>>121492631
It isn't *that* good, it's just unique. Free Howl is alright, but the wearer goes berserk and gets himself killed.
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Gentlemen, I present you with the greatest clusterfuck to grace us since Flatus.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck

Twelve players, twenty five provinces. Max gold, max resources, max supplies. Very easy researching. Big armies, strong SC pretenders and NO SCALES predicted.

Don't bother aiming for late game. Don't bother aiming for mid game. Early is the name of the game.

P.S.: No underwater nations allowed.
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>bishop fish
lol that guy is hilarious, is it a good investment using him with a fish amulet to get him out of water and bless your troops? i find myself needing a divine blessing user with some nations
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>>121493631
I wouldn't get him for that, but I would get three or so for claiming thrones.
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SUB NEEDED

All right, ladies and gentlemen! Do you want to have a good time playing late-game Mictlan? Do you want to be a part of
>stabbed by a methhead
meme? Look no further!

I still can't contact Amuys after a week a few weeks? How long has it been? after the incident, so we need a replacement for him.

All players have good positions, and nobody staled even once (except Amuys when he died). Mictlan has a global in place, and is going strong.

If you're interested, tell me your Steam name in the thread, or contact CoolStory.

Amuys, if you're here, THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU NOT RESPONDING ON STEAM, YOU NIGGER.
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>>121493748
right, right, that's pretty interesting aswell
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>>121493631
Love this guy. Only downside is he has upkeep, but not many generic summons get H3.
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>>121493496
>Unexpected Nation
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>>121493496
>Max gold
>Very easy researching
>Unexpected Nation
gg
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>>121493916
Did he actually get stabbed by a methhead or is that just a joke?
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>>121495009
Nobody could contact him after that server message, so we may never know.

That's why you should set yourself AI if you're about to die, kids.
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>>121495150
I clearly missed this whole event. What was this server message?
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>>121495446
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>>121495509
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>>121495793
Fuck, wrong picture.
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What are some of the best paths to take for an SC commander?

I know earth gives protection and death gives fear but what else?
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>>121496416
>>121496416

it's on the goddamn manual.
anyway you should check out low level alteration/enchantment buffs.
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>>121496416
Golems tend to be popular since they can't be targeted by cascades, duel, or the blood damage spells, have 0 encumbrance, and come with fire and poison res. They can teleport in and cast astral shield and ethereal on themselves. The downside is shatter does a number on them and they have shit combat stats.
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>>121496416
Fire gives pheonix pyre, air gives mistform and cloud trapeze for mobility, nature gives personal regeneration. But really, an actual SC needs something that can kill an army, which limits you to stuff like soul vortex, firestorm, soul drain, and so on. Of course, a lot of these are hard to cast and knock the caster out, so getting a SC that works and won't die to any number of mages is pretty damn hard.
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>>121496416
Now that you know all about SCs, come join SC pretender clusterfuck central!
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>inb4 5 stales this turn

this game is pretty memetastic
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>>121497143
Yeah, caster SCs are more focused on using spells like firestorm or elemental spam to kill enough to cause a rout or completely destroy an army.
Melee SCs tend to focus on being tanky enough to outlast the enemy and slowly destroy the enemy through attrition or turn limit
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>>121498105
LMAO 2 GHOST WOLVES
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got death magic sites but not national death mages. What can I do with my death gems if the higher death mage i have is a D2B2 independent mage?
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>>121498165
>two of them are my neighbors
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Are skull mentors worth it?
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>>121499725
It depends. If you're playing a spooky nation, then you're better off with lanterns, because you need death gems for mages, summons, and shit.
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>>121499725
If you have const6 and shit research but gems/mages for effectively using other paths/non-gem spells, yes.
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>>121491173

Nature has amazingly good and useful globals, excellent summons (lamias, faerie courts, troll tribes can carry the game alone), potent battle spells (howl, relief, swarm) and very easy to get gem gen.

Earth opens up instantly summoned armies (hidden in X), awesome buffs and battle spells (RoS, EQ) and decent globals.

And both have great forging too.
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>>121493916
I managed to get a message back from him on steam saying that he hasn't been feeling well. He was also posted in the thread yesterday and the day before.

I think he's in a bad spot mentally for whatever reason, so getting a sub for him is probably for the best, but he might be able to do the admin transfer and so on.
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>>121498562
You craft a skullstaff and black book of secrets (artifacts).
You give skullstaff to D2, summon mound fiend.
Give both to D3 mound fiend, now you've got D5.
Now you can summon a lich.
Lich with skullstaff and black book of secrets is capable of crafting skull face.

Well, congratulations, you've got D7 and that's pretty much all the death ever, including tartarian factory (possibly more than one).

Without artifact you are limited to D4 on skullstaffed mound fiends.
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>>121503970
You can always cast twiceborn though. It has a chance to give +1d.
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>>121504148
I'm not really sure if undead can be twiceborned, but I don't find twice born reliable enough in general.
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>>121504414
Undead can't be twiceborned. But it's a good way to get into death without researching Construction 8.
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>>121504801
>But it's a good way to get into death
He's got D2 as base, he's not going to go higher than D4 with twiceborn without construction 8. (so, same as mound fiend)
You need a base D3 mage to twiceborn to get over the D5 hurdle and then artifacts anyway for maximum death like tarts.
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I have luck three and have lost 4 provinces to events by turn 8, including losing a Melquart to a fuck-off invasion.

By the titty-fucking Nephilim this is a hard mode start.
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>>121506629
>recruiting melquarts turn 6
Why
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SADE THE GOAT MOM IS PURE

PURE!
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>>121507185
HOW WOULD HE EVEN GIVE HER AWAY

IT'S A FUCKING WOLF
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>>121507185
>WOOF
>NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
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>>121507185
DAMMIT MOON MOON
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>>121478374
>spreading dominion
>not a form of aggression
know your place monkies
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>>121478374
>"Your God's a shithead, ours is better!"
>"No, why are you attacking me!"
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>>121509874
what happened?
also:
>niefelheim memeing ermor out
poor AI ;_;
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>>121480991
>worried about trolls
the only thing scary in the water is amber clans unless your theodoro and you actually have to worry about MR
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Welp, 100 skinshifters marching on me and wolves decided to attack as well.

If I don't survive, fuck elves.
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>>121512734
Actually, if I live, fuck elves anyway.
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How do these act in indie provinces? Will they shoot me? Will they fly and attack rear?
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>>121512909
If u die can I have ur cap?
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>>121513841
Only if you are in no way responsible for said death.
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>>121514129
Looks like I'm getting a new cap sometime in the grimdark future of the late ages.
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>>121510202
Lobsters and shark clan are both pretty shit to deal with.
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Anyone up for a Catacylsm mod game send in your pretenders here.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Crapaclysm

If we dont get a lot of people, I'll just change the map to something smaller.
>>
Anyone up for a clusterfuck, send in your pretenders here.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck
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>>121518683
is it the version where every other site gives 2 gems?

the point of the mod should be making use of gold recruit troop but at turn 20 you have 100 gems of every type, while your cap mage has full diversity random, and you can just drown your neighbour in standard summons. and probably everyone will be summoning the same set of efficient low level summons.
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>>121518683
I have no idea what I'm doing.
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>>121506629
Can't be that bad if you're coming after my molten phallous already
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>>121493916
REMINDER

Wanna play late-game Mictlan? Cum join the fun.
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>>121521772
what? The only person I can see is Arco
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>>121522118
looks like I confused Hinnom with Fomoria.
My bad it's fomoria that wants my dick
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>>121409742
When can I see our team getting rekt?
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>>121518683
Why not /domg/clysm? Isn't it better? I have no idea if it actually is.
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>>121522439
We did pretty good in vgl4 Forester Bob carried for us pretty hard.
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4 out of 6 players staled. Good job bat hope youre proud.
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>>121522617

I dont think I've played with /domg/clysm before. I'll give it a look
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>>121523074
very fitting.

we seriously need some fresh memes though.
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>>121523145
I was too busy watching Bob Ross and I was 100% sure I've had some extra time to do my turn. Fuck.
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>>121521870
To add to this - he has a very, very strong position. He has had the throne of knowledge for most of the game, has an absurdly overcast Purgatory against three undead nations, and has already broken into blood.
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Yo C'tis please do a double turn this time. It's irritating to wait on you when turns take five minutes.
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>>121522439
Next month. Or possibly the 28th if we participate in the friendlies.

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_5

And looking at the roster poll it looks like Forester Bob will keep carrying the team, with support from Erf Snek and itdepends. >stabbed by a methhead might become a prominent new player though.
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>>121524369
Our team has the best memenames.
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>>121524369
I'm just glad that most of the team is made of classic memes that never die.
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>you will never be as autistic as sum1won
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what the actual everloving fuck. lost another cap ring province to a 60 strong indie fucking huskarl event. I have no negative scales, strong dominion and luck fucking three.

I might AI soon because this is fucking ridiculous.
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>>121528507
snooze
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>>121523145
I had drinking to do at work.
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>>121528864
that sucks. keep going though, there is no point in quitting early.
this is primarily a game for scrubs to learn the game, so just relax and mess around (going AI is for bitches)
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Fomoria, if you want our war to be over, pull your troops back this turn and I will do the same.

Then we'll talk about new borders.

Next time, if you really want to avoid war it is perhaps a good idea to abstain from invading provinces that belong to me without comment and ignoring any in-game messages until I'm elbow deep in your anus.
>>
Looking for a game? Got a few recruiting ATM sign up for one!

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MapmakingIsHard - EA game
Experimental freshly made map. No underwater nations allowed.

None I am aware of.
-MA game

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck
-LA game

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Crapaclysm
-Other game

>>121493916
-in need of a sub probably still true
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>>121536161
Well he just sent me a message insulting me, and his bunch of troops he sent my way are about to dissapear.
I say carry on and take him out.
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I drew a Queen of Elemental Air.
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>>121524369
Did you update our page?
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>>121538369
Not yet, the poll is still ongoing. Currently sitting at 15 responses.
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>>121538075
which one though?
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TAKE YOUR FUCKING TURNS AND MAKE IT DOUBLE
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Silly question.

Where can I find a "clean" image of the heat/cold icon? i.e. Just the sun/crystal image with a white background. I am trying to create a mockup for Ragha on the wiki.
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>>121550634
Dom4 sprite dump on Desura
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>Stale like twice
>Wtf why I'm sending my turns
>Emails are bouncing because my client was misconfigured.
Just kill me.
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Editing the wiki makes me want to pull my fucking hair out. Jesus fuck.
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>>121553376
Yours is a difficult path, and I appreciate your service to our country.
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>>121536874
what does everyone's gold income look like?
I'm at 3100
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>>121553376
pre-empt the fuckers, write more articles.
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>>121554820
2430
I'm not in your game, though
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>>121554820

16489

I just enjoy watching my Super-combatant squad systematically obliterate everything.
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>>121554820
I own a pretty sizable chunk of the map. I make maybe 600 gold a turn. fuck popkill.
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Where can you find players who don't stale?
Anons are stalers. SAers are stalers. Even PAers are stalers. Are Desurans free of sin?
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>>121554820
obscure joke about my income requiring up arrow notation to write.
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>>121556760
the trick is joining with experienced people who you know are somewhat reliable.
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>>121556916
How can I prove my worth if the only people who can vouch for me are a bunch of stalers?
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>>121557273
congratulations.
you've discovered the stalers paradox
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>>121557564
Man I played two games for a total of 9 IRL months. I only ever lost one turn and that was an accident. I want to be let into the super secret grown up club.
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>>121556760
>>121556916
>TheNoobening
>Chock full of noobs and seal clubbers
>40 turns in, no stales
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good night /domg/
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>No turns
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Thanks for taking a double turn Smallfish C'tis ya done good.
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>>121556760
Dom3mods
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>>121558585
Can I even get into their gated community?
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Admin, please delete Caelum pretender. It was a mistake of youth that I have submitted. Sorry for the efforts.
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Question about Thug/SC's for LA Ragha.

Are any of their commanders/summons well suited for thugging (like the Griffon Rider), or should I just stick with Banes/Sleepers?

Secondly, are spentas worth decking out as SC's? Their stats seem *okay* (Awe 5, Invul 20 seems good), although I am not sure what items would go particularly well on them. I know that "it depends", but I am wanting to know if I am trying to polish a turd here and should use my gems elsewhere This is strictly endgame of course, not a core strategy just wondering if it is an option if the game gets to that point.

Thirdly, what do I spend my Fire Gems on? I always feel like I have a bunch sitting there doing nothing. Should I just use them to summon Flame Spirits more aggresively?
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r8 my thug
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>>121569603
Def 12/10
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>>121568387
>Secondly, are spentas worth decking out as SC's?
You could do it, but they're not a great chassis for their price and they give a lot of magic paths/crosspaths you don't get natively.

>>121569603
Why does a thug need 23MR?
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>>121569603

No def no prot no spells, will die to pd/10
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>>121554820
I'm barely at 2000. It's pathetic.
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>>121509873
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>>121554820
I'm at 82 provinces right now and i have 2700 income. Feels gud.
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>>121538075

I like that her nipples are the air magic icon. That's ideal.
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>>121523360
>>121532182

I still blame bats.

FURTHERMORE XIBALBA DELENDA EST
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>>121554820
8000. Not your game either. [spoilers]I'm winning[/spoilers]
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>>121554820
800
I'm in the north pls no bully
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>>121512909

Earth ! thou has had thy warriors; even now,
One of the mightiest of the brave remains;
Unfading laurels circle round the brow,
Of England's champion on the belgian plains,
Napoleon too, deep in the memory reigns;
He to who thrones seemed footstools, made to fall
Before his thirst of empire; and the plains
But pathways for his legions; meanwhile all,
Save Albion's race, succumbed beneath the sword of Gaul.
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>>121569603
Too expensive/10

Bane Lord with a brand and a vine shield is gold standard for a reason.
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>>121572719

>tfw 1200 income and Ermor
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>>121577164
The hand tells the bowstring:
Obey me.
The bowstring answers the hand:
Draw Valiantly.
The bowstring tells the arrow:
O arrow, fly.
The arrow answers the bowstring:
Speed my flight.
The arrow tells the target:
Be my light.
The target answers the arrow:
Love me.
The target tells arrow, bowstring, hand and eye:
Ta twam asi.
Which means in a sacred tongue:
I am Thou.
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Atlantis -
I consider the water province of Blu Cross part of my territory. Just saying.
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This unprovoked aggression upon us peaceful and misunderstood skeletons will not end well for you, Russkie, mark my word.
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>>121580443
I disagree.
Also, fuck your face.
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>>121581392

You can disagree with me and throw insults all you want, the facts stand, you will lose this war.
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>>121581482
>>121581392
Please don't randomly spill the war into my borders.
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>>121581838

Don't worry my Japanese goblin friend, I will make sure my skelleton legions do not stray onto your lands. Can't make the same promise about the drunken hordes of Russians though.

If you're interested in helping me deal with these "liberators" I'd be more than happy to share his land with you. You can even have his cap if you'd like.
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>>121581838

Also, I would then be able to help you out with any problems you have down south. What do you say?
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>>121581482
I'm sorry if I don't find your walls of chaff as impressive as you do.
Beside, it was going to be war between us eventually, might as well kill you while there is still population in your provinces.
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>>121582247

Do you truly think all I have is chaff? You underestimate me.
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>>121582305
I'm pretty sure your pretenders away, but I've seen nothing 'radiating power' coming towards me.
So I'm suspecting your using something that bumps your research up from crap. So there could be some mages coming, and they could do some things now.

However my point stands. Better to war now than later. I shall see you in the field.
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ded
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What I want to know is why the noob game on steam has zero stalers and is taking turns more quickly than 90% of /domg/ games
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>>121588487

Because noobs are actually interested in playing the game and not being shitters.
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>>121588487

NoModOrBuddha was a nob game too and we had up to 4 turns a day and no stales at all. And think no one went AI either. Its the people.
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>>121588487
>>121588560
They haven't suffered any burnout yet.
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Since people are complaining about this thread being dead, how about I bump it with updated standings from the roster poll?

12 Forester Bob
11 Erf Snek
10 itdepends
10 >stabbed by a methhead
10 Turnbullying
9 Quadbless Mictlan
9 2000 ghosts in a fort
9 Pankoman
9 Remove Elves
8 Astral 1
8 Giant Man-Eating Jews
8 Have we checked on Ermor?
8 Ulm - waiting for turn file
7 Bane Lord/Bane
7 Scrub Club
7 Burden of Time
7 Heroic Obesity
6 100 PD
6 Illfraud
6 Useless Kick
---- Three of these get in:
5 Desura Thug
5 Angry Stone Face
5 Asshole Batman
5 Lugh the Long Handed
---- Cutoff Line
4 >testing
4 >Turn 1 Earthquake/Rain of Stones
3 >avg /domg/ pretender
3 Fresh Hot Stales
3 Illfraud's Cocaine Cruise
3 Underwater Archers/UW Archer PD
2 Badminning
2 Bogus the Troll
2 BoT GET OUT REEEEEEE
2 Olm Miscegnation
2 Poor Little Agartha
1 >Nationgen Balance
0 taking my ball and going home

I'll probably keep the poll open through today and tomorrow, so if you haven't voted yet, feel free to throw a vote towards your favorite memes >>121409742
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>>121589612
Oh, and does anyone want to see /domg/ participate in the friendlies? They're a few matches that happen before the group draw and they have no impact on the actual cup besides letting people see a few of the teams in action.
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>>121589612
What killed the thread? It used to be so lively.
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Pankoman help me I'm seriously tempted to drop 10bux just so I have more people to play Dominions with. Is Dominions a SA plot???
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>>121591548
No it's not.
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>>121591792
What if Illfraud is just Moot, the head mod of /sa/?
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>>121591901
Then we may as well give up and give ourselves unto unreason.
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>>121591548
There are like 3 other communities that play dominos.
Qt3 plays some games
Team liquid plays some gamed
The dominions IRC plays blitzes
Bay12 runs a few
But desura/dom3mods are your best bet
SA has their own hosting system so I have no clue how many games thwy run just that their meta is super aggressive.
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>>121592927

RPG Codex has around 34 players listed in the dom4 thread and around 14 games finished or ongoing.
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>>121592927
Time to show up literally everywhere at once.

>>121593116
Codexer are honestly the most petty people on the internet. Yes, even more than Anons. I wouldn't trust them not to stale the moment things went wrong.
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>>121592927
>Team liquid plays some gamed
They're a pretty small and insular community, but they do care about playing (if that makes sense). Less likely to stale than most.
>The dominions IRC plays blitzes
Not really. One guy tries constantly to get games going, but the /domg/ steam group is honestly the best place to find blitzes that I know of. For the most part, everyone there is just from Desura, so it's not really a distinct community.
>But desura/dom3mods are your best bet
This, honestly. Desura's still the most active, in spite of its impending demise.
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Don't die on me.
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>>121568387
if you got shit ton of excess fire gems I personally just summon more flame spirits and Fire snakes if I'm not using them to forget helmet of heroes or the staffs that give junkie commanders spells like fireball or combustion
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>>121569603
>15 protection with no spell paths

it's shit
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>>121554820
2800
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>Van gets an H1A1 in PD
>amazon provinces get sacreds in PD
Aw yiss
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>>121603380
>Yomi get's Demon priest in PD
>province PD has militia, light infantry, and archers all at once
why they didn't make bandit leaders the default I'll never know
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>>121603954
It's... Uh... Thematic, yeah. Let's go with that.
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>>121603380
There's something nice about seeing giant PD commanders fend off raids by themselves
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>send your turn only an hour away from the deadline
>you're not the last one to get yours in
Feels good.
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Does anyone want to trade some games for Dom 4? I got a few Humble Bundle games I don't need and I'd love to legitimately own Dom4.
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>>121588487
still...in this...
to.... win this!
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>>121569603
if you buff it with a mage or you plan to use it defensively to kill a bunch of charming/mind slaving mages with no troops i might understand it. otherwise just no.
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>>121605001
That new player game seems surprisingly vicious for some reason, seems like everyone is fighting.
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>>121605001
I .... I can reach that and save you from burds.

The question is, do I want to piss off burds?
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>>121605635
YES, the burds must fall.
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I'm not even in this but REMOVE BIRDS
Also Van is literally birdrape in a jar
Just storm their shit up and they're fucked
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>>121605635
I'm not kidding when I say I'm still intending on competing. If you want some bird pie to go with your lava cake then do it. If you want to be bird's only neighbor by yourself after fucking their ally, then that's an option too. They are soooooooo trustworthy and a fine neighbor to have.

But really, their main army is diminishing because of my raids, and they only have about 200 troops spread around their main land, so they are quite vulnerable.
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>>121606169
>Just cast storm against the nation that casts storm at the start of every battle.

Okay senpai
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>>121606169
Don't burds have storm flying or some bullshit?
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>>121606937
Some do but not all of them.
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>>121606937
More importantly, they spam out air mages that want to cast Storm Power.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck

Getting pretty full!

Only five more people can join the clusterfuck to end all clusterfucks.
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Who is the most moralfag nation?
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>>121608029
MA Caelum
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>>121605001
>>121605635
>>121605810
>>121606169
>>121606908
Whoa, whoa.
Let's just all calm down here, guys. Burds did nothing wrong.
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>>121605635
>>121605001
Murder the birds! Their squawking is keeping me up all night!
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>>121588642
Pretty much this. I enjoy dominions, but after 7 years of playing I'm in no rush to do double turns a day.
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>>121572719
Is there a way to see your province count without actually counting them?
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>>121611719
>being literally this neurotypical
Just count them, faggot.
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Marignon, you just signed your own death warrant.

My research finishes in one turn. In two turns, that pretty little army of yours dies.
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if i cast call of the winds on my free fort, when the enemy is about to come and siege it the birds will be defending and not patrolling, right?
i need that flash siege defense bonus.
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>>121604359
bump, anyone?
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>>121611719
press F1 and count the red lines with a PD value.
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>>121614956
>I'm underage and can't get my mom to let me use her credit card
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>>121615574
More like
>I'm on a tight budget and still have a lot of surplus games from various bundles.
you don't have to be a dick if you don't care m8
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>>121615853
The last thing we need is more kids in this community. Fuck off.
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>>121614819
Tis pretty, but it isn't little, or my only one.
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>mfw I forgot to submit my turn yesterday and there's ten minutes left
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>>121616312
It's little, and it's as good as dead.

Feel free to send whatever other band of lizard-cock hungry humans you want to my lands, they're all going to die.
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>>121616191
>>121615574
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Do preaching units count as defending or patrolling when in forts?
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I want to use all my death gems to cast BoT + Foul Air.

Please, dissuade me.
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>>121618301
you should save them for a good old utterdark anon!
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>>121618219
Defending. You can preach inside forts when the enemy is besieging you.
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>>121618469
That's a good idea, actually. Thanks, anon.
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#JustStaleThings
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>>121614831
yes, they won't patrol the province
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>>121608735
only undead burds do nothing wrong. kill all living burds
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>high luck and order
>a fortress (and income boost) popus up in a province
>throne of beasts dogs siege it immediately
Cool desu.
Would have preferred if it happened somewhere in my vast unimporved wastes rather than right nest to an existing fort, but the price is right.
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>>121614819
Is it Enchantment 5?
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How are you all liking the beasts?
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>>121622075
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>TheNoobening new turn a couple hours ago
>Already everyone but three people turned in
>Not a single stale on turn 41
Maybe the people in this game should play in another game after this, clearly we've got a good player composition.
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>>121623696
yes yes good goyim, burn them out faster so they can become grizzled veterans who stall like professionals
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>>121622717
Oh I am LOVING them
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>>121625426
you thought you were merely taking a throne, but instead you started the yiffining
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>>121625426
That's not the one who took it.
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>>121625724
I didn't take the throne
Bats did
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>>121625809
>>121625871
all are guilty, GUILTY!
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>>121626128
No, it's definitely just you Xibalba.
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Ulm, I'd have asked permission but haven't been able to get hold of you, so I'll be asking forgiveness, any particular flavour of magic item you want?
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>>121627860
give him a ghost spear in the ass
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>>121628604
Rude. Given he's my neighbour and at war with another neighbour I want to be fair but impartial.
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blitz in chat
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>>121493916
Daily reminder.
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>>121629336
the only fair and impartial thing to do is to kill them both
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>>121626375
that's not me, im not an anime memer. I wish i was one, but i'm not.

werewolves unironically sieged a fortress making me unable to recruit mage that turn, and also the first turn they attacked a bat who was building a fortress and that one was the last turn left to complete it.

Pretty memetastic, imo.

FUCK YOU NATURE I HATE YOU.
(not you, Pan-chan, you are cool)
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>>121635704
>they attacked a bat who was building a fortress
Rough luck. I lost my gold investment for one of those happenings too.
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>>121635904
it's funny because everybody hates me for that throne, but i ironically got memed on the hardest.

by the way if Stale Agartha is here, you should scout harder and attack independents with less units. You are overkilling guys with your 80+ army with like 10 great olms or whatever they are called, that lowers your expanding speed.
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>>121637620
Reminder: every cave lets Agartha recruit Olms. Olms are murder rape in large numbers.
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>>121633995
I'm at war with dual bless Niefelhiem, and they've both got massive armies staring at each other and have been for 10 turns.
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>>121638101
Literally that

Is there any strategy to fight them other than endless horde or high as fuck magic resist?
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>>121637620
I know, I need to get more commanders out so I can divide some of those stacks. But I need big ones like that to have the critical mass necessary to take throne provinces easily.

>>121638101
Only if there's a temple, though. And Agartha's only priests need a lab and a fort as well as a temple, and each olm is 50g. And olms are only really rapey at substantially more gold investment than the enemy has. And caves have shit gold income. Managing the Agarthan economy is very frustrating.
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>>121638295
Mindless units(with mindless commanders), or simply guerilla warfare.
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>>121638295
they prioritize high HP units, so if you can get stuff like ogre chaff, they'll eat all the mindblasts while your real units kill stuff.

Massed archers are good vs Agartha in general as well (especially if you can cast the buffs for them, of course) and olms don't help fight against that, since they're 5 times as expensive as the archers and can only tag 1 at a time
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>>121635704
it's never too late to be anime

on a semi-related note 1st year of game I'm in and someone just took the beast throne, I'm not ready for the pain
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>>121640404
who are you, cutie? I wish we could be friends :3c
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>>121638691
You only need 1 priest to build temples. Just have him roam around and build them. Also you should have prioritized getting above ground and building forts in you higher income provinces since that gives them a bonus on top of the admin bonus.
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>>121642684
>Just have him roam around and build them
>mapmove 1
>my whole land is a maze of caverns in rows with only two or three connections each
Managing Agarthan logistics is even more frustrating than Agarthan economy.
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>>121642913
>needing him to move more than 1 province
For what purpose?
If you clump them all up it's easier to 'mass' them
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>>121644247
But I have a big territory that I want my scales on...
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Stop running Abysia, you're just delaying the inevitable.
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>>121619027
How many of those are dogs
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>>121644594
So that's how it's going to be, huh?
I guess you've just got at thing for dead Greeks, but I think you've miscalculated.

BURDS STRONK
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>>121646841
Tighten your coclea it's about to get wrecked burd scum.
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Sandwiched between Glamour Party and Spooky Time Ocean Festival sure isn't a fun time. it is for me
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>>121646841
M8, u wanna go?
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>>121649274
Hey, you attacked me. I didn't start this fire. But I'm ready to watch it burn.

Try to get off that bat cock long enough to put up a fight, okay?
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>>121644357
Why exactly can't you do both? Other than cash flow problems which are your own fault :^)
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>>121647891
this is why you can't trust ghosts or elves, only bats
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What games does /domg/ play whilst waiting for people to do their FUCKING turns?
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>>121656581
I'm writing a strategy guide.

If you have games saved, you can write an AAR for one of them.
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>>121656581
finished the original twice, loving the HD classic, waiting for the remake anxiously
Dankovsky scalpel-only playthrough mate
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>>121656783
That sounds nice and all but then things like this happen. Sounds very possible if you play your cards right, but marauders are a fucking pain to deal with without guns. It;s my first time playing through and I really got sucked in after a few hours of playing it despite parts of the game being barely functional.
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>>121653160
You can't trust bats either, they just get stuck in your hair all day and scream at nothing.
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>>121658092
the hardest sequence is the one where the hunchback and his firebombers hole up near the abottoir. Haven't gotten up to it in the HD remake yet but it's the most tempting place to use a gun in the scalpel only playthrough. Marauders can be beaten, but they are much more efficient to shoot; however you can typically avoid most such enemies. Looters especially, after the ones you have to encounter doing quests, only show up in locked districts.
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>>121658092
>>121656581
I still haven't gotten around to HD replay yet, I had some fun time as bachelor back in da day, enjoying the OST now as we speak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eIjqpMJ-L8
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>No turns
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Thoughts? My pretender is primarily there for late game Astral presence, being a forge slut (Air, Earth, and Astral are a pretty potent forging combination), and having painless access to my Yazad/Spenta half of my national summons. The last one is significant, since it is otherwise a huge pain in the ass since natively you would have to rely on getting a 40 gem summon with a 1/4th chance for S3.

Alternatives: I could replace Astral with Nature (Love and War) which will, essentially, give my nation very strong access to every path (Nature has some great summons), but my Astral presence will be significantly weaker.

Thoughts? (I have also tried W9Ex and N9Ex bless for a sacred strategy, which works pretty well).
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>>121663512

Didn't mean double thoughts. Only one thoughts is necessary.
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>>121663512
One of the cool things about Ragha is that your national mages can get your evil summons, unlike Caelum which needs the pretender for that. The fact that you don't need to go fire/death on your pretender to get them (and they really are some great mage summons) is pretty liberating.

Since you're going Heat Ragha, I'd go with the water bless that you mentioned. Zhayeden are amazing murder machines. The good Yazad/Spenta are fine, but costly in pearls, so there's no need to devote your pretender to getting them.
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>>121650428
It's just one little thug, did it really get your feathers that In a twist?
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>>121664175
F9 heat ragha seems way better in my testing and theorycrafting. F9 gives you magic weapons ap damage and causes your four attacks to create an even wider gap between the griffins attack and the opponents defence if that is an issue, elves for example or even high end thugs.
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>>121670675
Oh and F9 means you can levy your infinite F gems to cast globals or alchemy spells.
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KILL ALL STALERS KILL ALL STALERS KILL ALL STALERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>121656761

AAR?
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>>121671757
After Action Report.
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Hey admin, T'ien Ch'i has staled 3 turns in a row now.
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>>121671757
>>121671931
It's where you review a game and go over what you did each turn.
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>>121670675
They get 3 attacks, not 4. Also, W9 both increases their damage output and defense.
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>>121673319

if MapmakingIsHard ever starts then ill write one for it when it finishes
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>>121673450
I forgot lances stop after the first hit.
their defence is pretty negligible even with the added 4 from W bless, it only takes it to 15 +4 shield parry.
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Are you bored? Are you in a tonne of games, yet are you still craving more?

Join THE REKKENING
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck

Small as fuck map, twelve players, all out global combat by turn three, little time needed to plan shit out yet huge satisfaction from watching big armies and awake SC pretenders duking it out.

It's eat or be eaten, kill or be killed, wreck or get wrecked, be gud or git gud.
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>>121674359
That's a sizable increase in attacks dodged.
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>>121656581
what game is that
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>>121674364

How do I join?
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>>121675887
their prot is what keeps them alive though, not their def.
and quickness causes their 2nd form to rack up insane amounts of fatigue.
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>>121676063
Read the PBEM guide in the OP.
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>>121675910
Pathologic, recently got an HD retranslated re-release and a comprehensive remake is about a year underway
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>>121670675
>>121673450
You can also go without a major bless and opt for scales and minor instead. Ragha can expand pretty well with elephants and still have decent Zhaeydan
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>>121676960
mono bless or X9E4 costs almost nothing on their wide variety of chassis, there's little point in not going for a bless as hotragha
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Am I the only one who outright refuses to play a nation which needs to field mages in numbers? If you only need a few mages to cast big buffs then when the lategame comes around you can protect them from turn 1 EQs/RoSs by forging a few armor suits. If you rely on communions you're fucked.
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>>121677293
I love mages. I just can't get enough. I always want more of them. In every place, in every era, I need more mages.
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>>121677293
Jotunheim/Niefelheim can do very tanky communions. Skratti werewolf slaves also bring their own regeneration, which stacks with the personal regen cast by a Gygja.
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>>121677389
Sure, but most mages should be stay at home mages. The angels in the lab supporting the alpha mages wearing Armor of Knights and casting Fog Warriors.
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>>121677535
Do not underestimate my THIRST for magic.

Also, what's a good example of a nation that brings few high-tier casters?
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>>121677653
Any nation with good troops and casters with at least 2 in a path can do this. You can climb up to the requisite 4-6 with some boosters/gems.
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>>121677653
EA Atlantis?
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>>121678195
EA Atlantis is all about spamming mages to deal damage for them.
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Give me your hot MA AGARTHA tips pls
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>>121678528
loadsa statues
N9 bless

Everything else is gravy.
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>>121678268
Yeah. I can't really think of any nation that uses only a few mages.
I mentioned them because Basalt Kings are ridiculously strong even with no other support
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>>121680320
There's no reason you can't do it with almost any nation with strong troops.
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>>121680752
Even Mictlan and LA Atlantis benefits from having a lot of mages
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I've just summoned my first ever Arch Devil. What do I use him for (against Sceleria)?
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>>121684737
Cast Firestorm
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>NO TURNS
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>>121684737
>>121685494
if he doesn't expect it you can put some gear on him and cast firestorm.
if he does expect him he might try to enslave mind/mind burn him with his main army or even attack and stellar cascade him. it's probably going to work against smaller armies anyway.
always put extra MR on him.

you can stll gear him to beat PD since he's flying and stuff, then he can fly back to your army to cast some fire clouds.
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>>121687843
I'm guessing the Firestorm thing works best with Phoenix Pyre? What kind of equipment would I give him? The standard Vine Shield + Frost Brand seems wasted.
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>>121688427
well MR, one shield and good reinvigoration for sure, since he's gonna cast just 2 spells a good armor is ok.
with phoenix pyre you can avoid ring of regen, and with firestorm you can good weapons.
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>>121688427
You don't even need Phoenix Pyre. Just stick a few devils with him to keep him guarded.
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will the chalice heal my tartarians, which are undead? can i give the chalice to the to do so?
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>>121689146
No, undead can't be healed by units with Healers. Healers can heal themselves, and all the Chalice does is give a unit Healer(5).
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>>121689506
so gift of health is the only route to get rid of fucking feeblemind?
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>>121690805
Yes.
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>>121688763
Phoenix Pyre only works if you're conscious. You don't need a weapon to kill hundreds of skeles if you have firestorm
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>>121680320
MA Pangaea sort of counts since you're basically using Pans for everything except research and you don't need that many to drop all the army wide battlefield buffs you should cast.
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How do I into Asphodel?
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>>121694361
Start off as Pan with cap sacreds and slowly become ermor but with forests giving good freespawn rather than forts.
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>>121694361
Oh and transform + Pandomaniacs = army of animal mages with no upkeep.
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It's funny, as Ermor in the Ganos game, I've done nothing but be a good neighbor. I haven't shat up anyone's land with my dominion, I haven't cast any shitty globals, I haven't even attacked anyone, I've only fought defensive wars. And yet, despite all this, everyone is out for my blood (except for China who is a cool guy).
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>>121695068
Lies, you attacked me unprovoked. Never trust skeletons.

All I wanted is monkey's cap, but you and TC just have to butt in. I'm not even a threat, half of my provinces is wasteland.

Also, get fucked TC
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>>121695873

That was a defensive war that my ally, China, called me into. You were the initial aggressor against the monkeys, which lead China into the war and then me. So again, it was defensive. And that was the only time. C'tis attacked me first, then Arco, then Pangaea and now Man. With each of them I tried to be friendly and forthcoming and they all acted like cunts.
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>>121696135
>MA Ermor crying that all his neighbours reasonable people and want to remove him asap
Get rekt memescrub.
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>>121696135
I don't see from a diplomatic standpoint why a defensive war that your ally then joins and calls you in to is much different from them calling you into their agressive war. That along with the now meme'd "did anyone check on Ermor" based on how non-upkeep nations can snowball gives the other nations more than enough cause to be at war with you.
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>>121696135

>hur it was not a war it was 'different words that mean war'

Diplomonster detected

Nuke it from orbit with fire
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>>121696227

>reasonable people

C'tis and Arco got wrecked for attacking me, threw some insults around and then ragequit. Yeah, really reasonable.

Also, Pangaea is feeling the hurt and Man is about to get a skelly dick up his rectum, so I'm not crying I just find it amusing that they're attacking me despite me not being a threat to them in any way. I don't have the most thrones, Man does. If anyone is closest to a throne win, it's him. My land is shit with no income and few gems so there's no point in attacking me for it. And again, I haven't and am not intending to cast any cancerous globals. Still, they attack.

>>121696419

I'm not even really at war with the elves. I hit him once at the behest of my ally to save the monkeys. Monkeys went AI the turn I saved his cap and that was pretty much the end of that.

>>121696559

There is a difference between an aggressive war and a defensive war. I haven't encroached into any of Vanheim's land. I fought a single battle to preserve status quo.
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Should I death bless MA bird archers?
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>>121409742
>>121589612
Alright, penultimate update on the standings because I have nothing better to do:

14 Forester Bob
13 Erf Snek
12 >stabbed by a methhead
12 Turnbullying
11 itdepends
11 Remove Elves
10 2000 ghosts in a fort
10 Quadbless Mictlan
9 Astral 1
9 Giant Man-Eating Jews
9 Pankoman
9 Ulm - waiting for turn file
8 Bane Lord/Bane
8 Have we checked on Ermor?
7 100 PD
7 Burden of Time
7 Heroic Obesity
7 Illfraud
7 Scrub Club
7 Useless Kick
6 Desura Thug
----Two of these get in:
5 Angry Stone Face
5 Asshole Batman
5 Lugh the Long Handed
----Cutoff Line
4 >testing
4 >Turn 1 Earthquake/Rain of Stones
4 >avg /domg/ pretender
4 Fresh Hot Stales
3 Bogus the Troll
3 Illfraud's Cocaine Cruise
3 Underwater Archers/UW Archer PD
2 Badminning
2 BoT GET OUT REEEEEEE
2 Olm Miscegnation
2 Poor Little Agartha
1 >Nationgen Balance
0 taking my ball and going home

I'll close the poll at midnight. Once again, if you haven't voted, feel free to do so: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Rsld_itoPjuMBprvPGUclmn0ZPu6fZs5JFtLgsELNwg/viewform
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How did it come to this?
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>>121696651
In my defence, this is my first PBEM and I have no clue what I am doing. Oh well, atleast I tried.
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>>121698047

You can still retreat your forces and I'll leave it at that.
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>>121692023
i wanted to write " with firestorm you can give up good weapons"
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>>121698009
>ermor cast BoT
>someone jew out the pearls
>everyone goes AI
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>>121698134
Meh, I already sent my turn. I want to see how much damage I can do before I lose, which I will do sooner or later.
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>>121698238
But he didn't. Actually, the fag of the game is Rlyeh with his Arcane Nexus.
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>>121698298

You can redo your turn by sending in another file, you know.
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Great, I'm now next to two AIs again. This is getting ridiculous.
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>>121695873
>Rush monkeys with your shitty sacreds and then sit on their cap until they go AI
>F-fuck you for sticking up for friendly people China!

I'll send my other two armies at you now. Hope you like rain of stones and earthquake :o)
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>>121705071
Monkeys invaded Pan first actually.
I assume Pan asked for Van's help and got it.
Monkey's got rekt easily.
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>>121705512
And now Van will get rekt easily, because they don't know when the fuck to let something go. If they hated Ermor as much as they claimed they do they could have been fighting it all along, instead of being a little bitch and continually attacking that small detachment of my forces dedicated to taking AI Monkey capital.
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>>121706064
I don't hate Ermor, just stating a fact that he attacked me while claiming he only fought defensive battles.

Anyway, bring it bro. We'll have fun little war while Ermor eat the rest of the world. Or are you gonna ask Ermor for help again like last time?
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>>121702182

Cunts like this >>121706064 fight 'defensive wars' to 'preserve the status quo' and people get sick of watching the diplo faggot winning super slowly and horribly via his proxies, and go AI.
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Hey agartha if you still want those lanterns I need the gems you offered now due to some disastrous losses inflicted on me by bats.

We could meet in chat to iron out a deal.
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>>121707349

>fought defensive battles.

It was a defensive battle. Had I wanted your head on a pike I would have it already. The reason you're still breathing is because I didn't want to invade you.

>Ermor eat the rest of the world

Yeah, fuck off. I haven't been eating anything. Had my two southern neighbors not gone full retard and attacked me without a care in the world they would have still been around. You act like I am the cause of their fucking idiocy.

You fucking shitheads act like heroes thinking you can attack me and rid the world of evil old Ermor and then cry and ragequit when you fuck yourselves.
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>>121707349
I might, and he'd help me because I'm not some autist that cries about people using DIPLOMACY in a turn based grand strategy game like this person >>121707417

>>121702182
Cunts like this >>121707417 fight early aggressive wars to reduce people to their capital, and then wonder why nobody wants to ally with them when midgame comes around and their shitty bless strategy gets blasted by magic.
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>>121707417
>>121708267
Thanks for your thinly veiled attacks against each other, but...
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>>121707994
How is moving your army against mine when I haven't made any offensive move against you OR your ally 'defensive'?

I know you could beat me if you wanted to, I'm just saying that you're lying about being 'peaceful'.

>>121708267
I dunno, it looks like you're the one getting 'blasted by magic' to me >>121695873
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>>121710976
You managed to kill one of my armies with a surprise earthquake. Wow. Congratulations. I'll make sure to boast twice as hard when I kill your pretender and wipe that pathetic excuse for a military you have off the map.
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>>121693271
While that's true, MA Pangaea also often fields armies that die to RoS
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>>121713785
Well, they're moderately resistant. Panii can eat multiple casts without any items and the meat of your army, centaurs and revelers, are moderately resistant (above-average health and they get average-ish protection values after being hit the first time, plus they won't be crippled for life if they survive that one encounter). So yes, they can die to RoS and they're not Ashdod level of resistant, but they're not particularly weak against it either
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What's good on a pretender for Asphodel? From the description it sounds like I want Growth 3 Magic 3, but I have no idea what to go for in paths.
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>>121717083
Asphodel basically has the least divergence in pretenders. Pretty much every build is Turmoil/Sloth/Cold/Growth/Luck/Magic 3 with a W9 bless
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>>121717539
Something like this?
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>berytos went AI after expanding bad because he played bad
epic
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>>121718872
Wait, he went AI?
Holy shit I'm bordering two free nations now, and I've still got indies.
The expansion train has no brakes
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>>121718523
Ok, I finished doing expansion testing. You can expand fine with this build, but you can expand holyshitwhatevenisthis with Sloth 1. It's worth the reduced dom and nature levels to get.
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>>121717539
Sometimes I take N9 instead :)
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>>121721007
Or you could just go imprisoned.
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>>121725587
Yeah, but I'd rather have the god out sooner than 2 more levels in nature and 1 more dom
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>arcane nexus up again
This is unsettling.
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>>121728410
You managed to dispel it?

Also
>recasting an astral spell after being given literally hundreds of pearls

You're surprised why?
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>>121727552
What do you need your god on turn 12 for? You won't have any globals researched any good battlefield spells she is not a SC nor does she have any really important attributes (path access or bringer of fortune for example) she gives dom spread but your temples are dirt cheap and you need a ton.
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>>121730520
The extra research / gems weigh more than the two paths in nature.
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>>121707920
Less interested in lanterns at the moment, but i've poped up in a chat anyway.
Let's see if we can work something out.
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>>121731235

Im there
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>>121728410
I'd be more unsettled by Pythium, seeing as they've eaten multiple AI nations and are pretty much uncontested on land.
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>>121732229
Are you, I'm not seeing your old nick or maybe i'm amnesiac and forgot it.
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>>121732250
I'm contesting, though I reckon I'm not the best choice for a good ol' land war.
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Wh-what do I do?
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4 turns a day, this shit is basically a blitz.

is this heaven?
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Pan, are you here? I'm bat. That wasn't intended, i ddi the turn fast in the last second and somehow clicked the wrong independent province.

I really apologize for that.
I'm glad you won the fight so it is less awkward, but still i really apologize for that weird movement.
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What are research goals for MA C'tis besides Enchantment 5?
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>>121734350
We had a fight? I haven't downloaded my turn yet. No worries, I suppose. Did you lose many bats? I could spare some gold to make it up to you.
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>>121733862
I suggest you don't touch that shit with an army, but you could see what's in it (maybe mages hidden in there) with a single dude set to retreat after a couple of battle turns.
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>>121734182
Perhaps when we're done stabbing each other in the back we can enjoy a stiff drink and some exotic Dryads!
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>>121734794
>I suggest you don't touch that shit with an army
B-but it's in my way and I want it.
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>>121734350
Again, keep the magic item my batabob were holding as apologize and peace offering.
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>>121734794
>>121735374
Honestly, it's not that bad. Bring a lot of priests and magic resistant troops. If you have units with magic weapons, bring those too. All of the basic units in there have MR-negate attacks and are undead.
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>>121734767
no, it was totally my fault so it's fine.
i w-was afraid you were going to be angry ;_;
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>dogs took a chokepoint
>375 gold I missed out on this turn
I-I guess I need to hurry it up with the fort building.
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>>121734182
>mfw getting removed out of the one game that's going at any sort of speed early on
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>>121735568
and people say you can't trust bats. So friendly
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>>121736295
Does turn 44 count as early on?
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>>121736365
Sure, they're friendly - until they decide it's in their best interests to murder you with a swarm of demons.
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>ten indie attacks in one turn
PD managed to deal with most of them thanks to chariot trampling, but goddamn.

Anyways, anyone need earth/nature gems or blood slaves? Got about 80 of each, I'll take water/air/fire in return.
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>>121736620
sounds like an elf problem, you're not an elf are you?
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RIP peasant I never got the chance to thug you ;_;
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>>121736637
What's your price on blood slaves?
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Does anyone need astral pearls to not dispel the global I'm casting next turn with?
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>>121409742
>>121697140
Alright, just an hour until I close the poll, currently sitting at 17 responses. If you have somehow managed to not vote and yet have interest in /domg/ and the /vg/ league, please send in your vote.
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>>121736637
Not gold in return at all?
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>>121740265
I'd be willing to buy them and if it's Oak, I'll just replace it with my own in four turns or so.
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>>121740483
I'm sorry I don't think sending gems across games is a thing

And no you won't be
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>>121740483
That was weird, the name reverted.
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>>121740649
So you think you can out-nature a bunch of furries, huh?! We'll just see about that!
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>>121739939
2 slaves for every gem? I don't know, don't typically play blood nations.

>>121740282
Got more than enough gold right now.
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We're at 14 players, anyone object to me joining as Yomi then hitting start?
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Is Beyortys here?
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arco, are you there?
I'm that guy who asked for the air items. Do you have any air gems? I have like 10 of them or so, and you probably need 50 for my items.
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Reminder that you should JOIN THIS for CLUSTERFUCKY FUN

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck
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>>121746124
>clusterfuck
>in Late age
Why?
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>>121744720
DO IT
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>>121746835
>>121746124
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>>121740279
Alright, poll's closed! All in all, 17 responses. There was a tie for last place but rather than keep the poll open I just said "fuck it, Angry Stone Face is in" because he's a GK and Asshole Batman isn't and I like having 3 GKs on my team. The final tally is:

14 Forester Bob
13 Erf Snek
12 >stabbed by a methhead
12 Turnbullying
11 itdepends
11 Pankoman
11 Remove Elves
10 2000 ghosts in a fort
10 Quadbless Mictlan
9 Astral 1
9 Giant Man-Eating Jews
9 Ulm - waiting for turn file
8 Bane Lord/Bane
8 Have we checked on Ermor?
7 100 PD
7 Burden of Time
7 Heroic Obesity
7 Illfraud
7 Scrub Club
7 Useless Kick
6 Desura Thug
6 Lugh the Long Handed
5 Angry Stone Face
----Cutoff Line
5 Asshole Batman
4 >testing
4 >Turn 1 Earthquake/Rain of Stones
4 >avg /domg/ pretender
4 Fresh Hot Stales
3 Bogus the Troll
3 Illfraud's Cocaine Cruise
3 Underwater Archers/UW Archer PD
2 Badminning
2 BoT GET OUT REEEEEEE
2 Olm Miscegnation
2 Poor Little Agartha
1 >Nationgen Balance
0 taking my ball and going home

As you can see, Forester Bob and Erf Snek topped the poll, followed by Turnbullying and >stabbed by a methhead. Of the three name preferance questions, the only relevant one now is Bane Lord/Bane, with a resounding victory for Bane Lord. The question of the victory anthem was something of a draw, so I figure we'll make do with the regular anthem unless something truly extraordinary happens.

Congratulations to >stabbed by a methhead, Ulm - waiting for turn file, Have we checked on Ermor? and Scrub Club for making it onto the team, and goodbye to Asshole Batman, >Turn 1 Earthquake, Bogus the Troll and Illfraud's Cocaine Cruise!
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>>121746972
You know when you realise something horrifying you forgot just before you press go? That happened.
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>>121746835
Because it'll be fun to watch SCs get rekt by crossbows
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>>121747571
And it's fixed.
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Tc I could use E but I have no clue what I could trade, I'll let you know 'soon'
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>>121747238
Also I'm gonna need some pictures for Ulm - waiting for turn file and Have we checked on Ermor?, I think I might have the picture for the latter but I'm not sure. If you have pictures for either I'd appreciate it if you posted them because I'm gonna go to bed now.
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What commander do I recruit on my first turn as EA Abysia?
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>>121749827
Warlock
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>>121749827
it depends
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>>121748376
Alrighty. Any combination of any number of the gems I mentioned will do.
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>>121749827
recruit >set to AI
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>>121749827
Probably a salamander or a dragon
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there is nothing to worry about r-right?
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>>121753756
I do not understand what the picture has to do with the question. Are you asking if making that dude your prophet was a bad idea?
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>>121753964
tainted presence
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>>121754041
Oh, yeah, that doesn't do anything.
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>>121753756
It just gives him magic leadership.

And he's probably mind controlled by aliens from space, but that won't be a problem.
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>>121754041
IIRC tainted presence isn't horror marking it just makes that guy able to lead more units.
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>>121736637
Just did my turn, but I could throw you some fire for either Earth or Nature.
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>>121745058
I have an alright air income, but very few air gems. Can maybe spot you 10. Were you thinking of more of the same?
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>tfw haven't spent a single gem yet
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>>121755568
You can just revise it - I'll take as many as you're willing to sell.
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>>121756262
Getting my games mixed up. I'll hold onto that Fire for possible commissions at the Emporium.
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>Turn 8
>One UW nation has their cap under siege.
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>>121493916
Still need a replacement for this game.

Anyone? Come on, late-game is fun.
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>>121760695
I'd join if I wasn't Already in the game
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question for you nerds:

we all know rain doubles fatigue for fire spells, but does it double fatigue for spells that use fire cross paths (e.g.: Magma eruption, banfire, etc.)?
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>>121761269
Only if fire is the primary path.
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>>121761269
I don't know but it probably depends on the primary path only
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>>121759009
*2
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>>121762185
So that's where Oceania's army is, makes sense.
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>>121760695
You literally have the opportunity to join a game as a late game, diverse nation with a global that makes you nigh-impossible to invade for most of your opponents. It's not a free win on a platter, but it's a great position for anyone that isn't going to get stabbed by a methhead.
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>>121761269
holy shit that gif, who the fuck is videoing it? or is the snake defanged? jesus.
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>>121762861
It's obviously defanged. You can see that when it tries to bite her.
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>>121759009
Having my cap besieged was part of my master plan.
OR THE PLAN WILL FAIL EITHER WAY LITTLE WAS INVESTED IN THIS GAME SO FAR BLOOPBLOOPBLOOP!
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>your mage has found a magic site!
>The Vale of Infinite horror
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>>121764031
>The Vale of Infinite Horror has been found! Many units have been marked...
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How useful are Gelatinous Cubes?
Totally not planning on using them to kill my enemies with Jell-O.
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>>121769849
Not very
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Lanka's gone? Who did that? Also, Caelum and Theredos, I think we should have an open discussion.
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what do I do when my turn file is corrupted?
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>>121773419
Yes?
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Apologies Bats, that was a blind expand
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>>121773508
ADMIN!!!!
I need an email change apparently.
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Bitches need to stop going AI at the drop of a hat.

If you can't win wars, FIGHT HARDER.

Drop cancer and the sun on your opponents. Once they win, let them look across the shattered ruins of their empire and go 'shit'.
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>>121778834
This is what I always do. Every spy instilling unrest, cancer spells, bane venom charms, pillaging, whatever is at my disposal becomes the resistance.
Fight a guerrilla war on your conqueror and unleash your curses of vengeance.
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>>121739041
How the hell do you even get peasants and goats, anyways? I want them sweet free goat random events.
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>>121778834
As the poem goes, do not go gentle into that good night.
Hand out bane venom charms to stealthy undead, cast whatever fuck-your-province spells you've got, park 300 ghosts in a fort, pull a Forester Bob and have a hell of a last stand. It doesn't matter what you do, as long as you do something.
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Who else loves the monkey nations?
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>>121783437
I assume it's popular among those who shit on the street.
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Question: What nation should I choose (LA) if my goal is just absolutely devastating a single other player? Not so much overpowering them as a scorched earth sort of "Even though you will probably beat me, you will be so utterly crippled that you can't possibly go on to win the game".
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>>121783491
>not shitting in the street
>2015
White people really do this.
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>>121777520
well admin if you see this change the email to [email protected]
I could also use a 12hr extension since I don't know when I can do my turn now.
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>>121785465
If they're attacking you - Lemuria
If you're attacking them, you basically just want a nation that's generally strong. Midgard is great since it kinda has everything - superb expansion, elf raiders, extremely prevalent RoS casters that are also good battlemages in general, stellar cascades spammers, and a bit of blood just to help it keep pace in the lategame when everyone else is spitting out demons. LA Abyssia, Mictlan, Gath, and Bogarus are all capable of getting out a decent number of horror casters if that's your thing. Abyssia also has assassins if you think they'll help ruin your selected victim's day.
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>>121785465
Lemuria obviously
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>>121785465
>>121786583
Also R'lyeh since insanity can seriously fuck up commanders. Although R'lyeh tends to get bumrushed by Atlantis or Jomon regardless.
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>>121778834
i don't fucking understand him. he was about to conquer my elf ass and obtain my juicy 10 provinces.
did he get rekt somewhere else?
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So T'ien Chi has AI'ed.

Want peace Marveni?
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>>121785465
Ulm
If you are crippled and want to spite your conqueror just hole up in your castles with rangers to drag out sieges, your priests are inquisitors so you won't get domkilled, Vampire Counts are great for this with their immortality, your Illuminati can ruin his economy, vampires can summon black servants and craft bane venom charms, you can horror mark his shit up, vampires are great for spamming Lammashtas.
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So does LA Arcoscephale suck? I can't seem to find any guides on it.

Also, why the fuck do they not get any national summons?
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>>121789369
They don't. Sybils are super communion mages though
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>>121789741

What should I be researching towards? They lack of national summons/etc. or thuggable commanders so Construction/Conjuration don't seem super useful initially, but they have really crazy researchers so it seems like there should be something I can pick up early for an advantage.
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>>121790063
Evocation mainly
You don't really need SCs since you can mindhunt. You can summon golems in a pinch, but you'll rely more on mass and versatile mages. Buffed elephants can easily win early wars if done right
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How do I deal with elephants as LA xibalba? i only have blood 4 researched and construction 2, got some jaguars out but i'm not sure if they will die to the elephants.
W9B4 bless
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>>121791571

It depends
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>>121791571
>w9B4
>flying jaguars
>against elephants

theorically speaking they should vaporize those elephants and you can even script to attack large monsters, but it's also a matter of how many elephants against how many ozetotl.
if the enemy puts body ethereal or 20 protection on them it's going to be hard however.

if you can wait thaumaturgy has great nature spells to fuck with animals with low MR.
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>>121792043
20 blessed jaguars vs an army of basically 20 elephants and some infantry, no mages int he enemy army (it's single player)
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>>121792192
>aoe poison made him missplay
epic
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>>121792192
>recruiting hydras
not even once
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>>121792459
i don't know. i would try to open with summon imps and 30 regular bats on large monster, then attack with all ozetotl and some cap only flying sacreds ( or more bats with a lance if you didn't recruit your sacreds). always on large monsters.

you can have flying troops attack on the turn you want by putting them on guard commander and have the commander attack on the chosen turn, but in this case hold and attack works better probably.
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With Sauro going AI I have no reason to fight you TC, can we try and negotiate a deal here concerning the borders and other issues we have?
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>>121792192

That scout went fucking apeshit, is what. He killed like 20 guys just by himself, including a mage. A pythian army was just marching along, minding it's own business, and he came out of the bushes frothing about his shoes, and killing left and right, pulling weapons from the hands of the fucking terrified limitanei in order to kill more of them.

Eventually, the hydra handlers, fearing they'd been ambushed by a large force, let loose their charges, and the rest, as they say, is history.

The scout, a native named Bryanei, was later toasted by the hoplites and given the honorary rank of 'hero'.
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How do I play Pan?

Or rather, this game in general, but Pan especially.
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>>121797698
Get excellent expansion with you extremely strong sacreds in EA/MA and then use buffed elite troops to win the game.
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>>121774813
>Fashion
Will you be leaving/handing it back?
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>>121797698
alterations to buff your troops.

everywhere you look at, nature magic has amazing niche spells, they just don't have straightforward evocations such as fireballs..
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Why is Mari still around? Can someone remove them already? They've been staling for nearly the whole game. We could have at least 2 turns per day if it weren't for them.
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>>121795413
Fine by me. Can't talk right now though, have to leave for work and I won't be back for several hours.
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>>121801469

Lets start with a ceasefire then and talk when we can.
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>>121801467

The coya ran off, probably. Either due to catching an arrow, or snake eyes on the morale roll for some random unrelated reason (likely outnumbering).

If the supayas even had a turn that wasn't running away, they spent it killing PD.
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>>121802725

I watched the replay.

He took an arrow to his fucking face and everyone routed.

How do I protect my Coya's from this stuff, at least early on? For most nations the "surround the priest with chaff" generally helps, but Nazca seems to have a particular problem.

Also, while I am at it, what is a good double bless combination? What, generally, should my opening strategy be? They feel *painfully* bad at crushing indies without relying on bless, but it feels like I am spending the first 8 turns doing almost nothing until I can get a Supaya factory out.
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>>121803128
Ironically the problem is due to surrounding the priest with chaff.
It's better to have a bunch of troops behind and a bunch of troops infront, so flying attack rear doesn't get it, but archers don't target anywhere near the priest.
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>>121803128
If you want the priest to bless well, put sacreds around the priest, then other troops in front, to catch arrows. If you fear attack rear, put things behind to steer.

Note single guys won't help you. Archers target hp-filled squares, within range, and attack rearers will kill single guys or surround them completely, and then move on to the next-rearest target, all in the same round.
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>>121803128

Nazca is painfully bad without blessed supayas. And painfully single-strategy with them.

Generally people want something to make their attacks meaningful, so F9 or D9. Then random stuff to taste. I personally like F9B9. But other people swear to D9F9, or D9S9. I know that D9F9 supayas, despite being fragile, will mow through pretty much any other troop like the end of the world.
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>>121792834
Large Hydras are great. Especially with N9.
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>>121805456
>I know that D9F9 supayas, despite being fragile, will mow through pretty much any other troop like the end of the world.
Are you sure you're thinking of the right bless here? D9 adds 10 HP, but marginal damage. 2 MR negate damage on a unit with 2 MR negate attacks per square (1 attack, size 3) is just not a big deal. B4 bless adds just as much damage.
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Just found a site that lets me recruit Warrior Mage. The idea seems cool, but they don't seem that great. Am I wrong in this?
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>>121805740
It's 2 armor negating mr negates damage.
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>>121805473
They cost more than a mage each and you have to jump through so many hoops to use them - dealing with the poison cloud, massing them slowly... they're just not worth the bother, even for LA Pythium.
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>>121806035
If you're missing one or more of the elemental paths, the added diversity can be useful. They're not efficient researchers or anything, but they can still help you out. The fact that they come with armor can occasionally be helpful as well.

>>121806170
Yes? The death bless is useful for popping mistform for units that have mundane weapons and every little bit can help in close battles, but that 2 MR negate damage just isn't a huge deal on supayas. It certainly doesn't let you 'mow through pretty much any other troop.'
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>>121806035
That site should also let you recruit Wizards. They're generally better.
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>>121806035
They're not terrible. About half of them will be pretty useless. FA FE being the most prominently useless ones but EA aren't great unless they have a gem to summon Earthpower and 2 to RoS
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>>121806442
What part of 'Armor Negating' do you not understand? D9 bless on a hit which isn't MR negated completely ignores a units protection value. That can be huge vs heavy human infantry
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>>121806035
with the right paths and 2 items they can be a " meh" thug to conquer some provinces against PD.
they can still chill there crafting items from paths you don't have, while wizards, which are definitely better, are slot to recruit in that regard.
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>>121806545
Yeah, I'm recruiting those no matter what, I hope to get into Flaming Arrows eventually.

I was just wondering if I could thug the Warrior Mages maybe. But their paths and protection seem a bit low.
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so apparently my turnfile is still corrupt despite being sent to a different email. ;_; I'm going to email llama but if he doesn't get back to me before turn timer I'll just stale and see if that fixes it.
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>>121807121
Did you do anything wacky last turn that may have caused this?
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>>121807256
nope.
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>>121807329
What was the error?
And aside from 'old Nik.
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>>121807810
it just tells me the turn file is corrupted it doesn't even nagot fel me
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>>121807983
Even weirder.
Mind if I send it to a third party to have them see if it's definitly a problem with the file?
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>>121808287
not at all.
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>>121806347

You're talking like someone who has never cast Body Ethereal, Iron Warriors, Resist Magic, Wave Warriors, Luck, and Gift of the Hare on a Regenerating Hydra.

Although you can just cast Regeneration on the damn thing. A small battery of mages acting as a pit crew for each hydra, and you have 4-5 relatively unkillable 'SCs' ripping apart the enemy army from inside their fear-causing auras of poison.

Add Quagmire and Foul Vapours to taste.
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>>121808958
Not that guy, but before anyone gets up in arms at how expensive that is in mage turns, remember that the mages you're using low tier mages for the buffs. The casters are S1s and N1s, and they can also be scripted to cast normal spells or, in the case of the astral mages, join the communion on round 3.
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>>121808958
>>121809467
Resist Magic is caster only, but you'd should just use Antimagic instead so who cares. Iron Warriors is E2, which you don't have natively (even E1 takes about 4 turns so you won't have many of them) so you're using gem investment anyway. Luck and Body Ethereal is cast by mages without poison resist so you have to gear them or buff them with someone else, probably serpent priests. Hydras are still going to draw all the magefire, so you better hope you're not facing fire, lightning, cascades, soul slay, paralyze, (18 MR is really not enough) as well as skelliespam or poison resistance. Since hydras are undisciplined, they also have to start right in a nice mageblob, so I hope you managed to outrange any archers/crossbows set to fire large monsters.

Too gimmicky. If you could recruit 6 hydras in a turn and they weren't MM1 you might be able to surprise someone, but as it is it doesn't seem effiecent.
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>>121811573
My buff pattern was much less involved than his - I think it was just ethereal and regeneration cast on each hydra, and then I had Mass Protection and Antimagic up for the rest of my army. I might have had gift of the hare too, but I'm not sure. Either way, it was only a handful of mages. They drew all of the arrowfire and survived it reasonably well, but the big problem was actually having the mages getting shot in the first few rounds before the hydras moved away.
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>>121811573
Hydras just good at expansion at first. Then you can add them to your main army where are enough mages casting Poison Ward so they will be a great help drawing fire and scaring chaff. That is all. But that is not a little.
You just need to buy them first 20 or so turns, that would be enough. And if they start to strain your economics just dispose of them.

It's WORTH it.
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Is this a reasonable pretender for LA Ctis? I am going for a minor bless strategy for my mages, although I am still pretty unsure about how to utilize a mage heavy strategy.

My plan is to funnel most of my death gems in the first few years into reanimators for the Chariots to fuel expansion (I tried major bless for this, but they are pretty great glass cannons without it) and then investing heavily into forts and salamander research before heading out and kicking ass with my nuka-cola infused mages.
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>>121811573

Poison rings or anti-poison area spell is mandatory if you want to put down vapours anyway, and as LA Pyth you kinda do want to put down vapours. A lot.

You obviously do this in the back of the field. That's what Haste/Hare is for, to get them off to where they need to be. You have your whatever infantry etc well out of their way, too. If you found some crystal amazons or whatever, putting Gift of Flight on Hydras is bloody hilarious.

Protection isn't really worthwhile compared to Iron Warriors, which is well worth the gems in swordproofing your hydras.

If the enemy starts shooting fire and lightning at Hydras with Luck who are in amongst his own troops, well good. His troops will rout a lot faster, and Hydras have luck and 9 heads (36 total lives per hydra with luck if i'm remembering the % arightly) and are entirely completely disposable in a way that your mages and res-intensive troops are not.

Paralyze spam rarely has pen behind it. Even if it does, it'll take a huge pile of mages to stop all the hydras, and even if they do, so what? Poison aura and fear will still do work, even if the regen stops. Lucky will still apply, as will prot. Etc.

Enough arty will shoot them down, but against that much arty you just use Vapours + Random Trash + Swarm and then laugh when 40 mages die to poison.

You use this against supported, buffed troops with low to moderate arty behind them. Or arty scripted for spells that your hydras don't really care about, like falling fires.
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>>121813868

Wow that's a lot of wasted paths.
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>>121814407
Hydras doesn't work that way, they don't "die" each time they change shape anymore.
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>>121815523
Btw, I have discovered that when a Hydra doing a lot of shapeshifting it has a chance to heal afflictions. So they are kinda have Requperation.
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not bad for 2 dudes
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>>121819419
You'd be amazed what two dudes can acconplish alone in a room. :^)
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>>121814407
>Enough arty will shoot them down, but against that much arty you just use Vapours + Random Trash + Swarm and then laugh when 40 mages die to poison.

Okay, so I've never played with or against LA Pythium in MP, but this strikes me as incredibly transparent to counter. Like, you know Pythium will cast Foul Vapors, so of course you're going to have Serpent's Blessing in any moderately sized army that fights them that is vulnerable to Foul Vapors. The fact that it gives resistance to the poison clouds of the hydras is just a random bonus for the rare cases that Pythium brings those out.
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>>121780120
Luck 3 turmoil 3
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>>121780120
Do you want to get dragon attacks? Because this is how you get dragon attacks. Goats should be suicided as soon as they arrive.
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>>121824815
if I get dragon attacks I get to charm dragons. keep goats in forts where you keep high tier N mages.
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Well guys, it looks like we need a sub for Mictlan even if we gave him a NINE FUCKING DAYS extension, i truly hope i will get an explanation for this.

Anyway, anyone looking for subbing a mictlan in a good position in turn 15 with no stales?
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>>121825380
No stales apart from that one, and he's nowhere near myself or Ermor is you don't like spooky stuff.
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There are only FOUR spots left in THE REKKENING

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck
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>>121826502
I am kinda intentioned of giving a rollback if someone subs early. Have no intention of wasting any more time, we gave a

N I N E
I 9
N 9
E 9

day extension, don't want to continue being in this game, occupying a game slot in my time without playing.

I ALSO FUCKING WANTED A HIGH COMMITMENT GAME WITH NO STALES REEEEEEEE.

And i am a Normie, i can't even blame normies.
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>>121828896
Find and hire a methhead to stab him.
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WHICH NON-GIANT NATION HAS THE BIGGEST AVERAGE DICK SIZE?
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>>121830313
Which nation Lugh from?
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>>121830370
>>121830370
Tir. His son Cu Culainn is in Eriu
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>>121830313
Dagda is literlally bringing the average up for all elves.
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>>121830313
Machaka
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>>121830313
Obviously Pangaea. Centaurs obviously have horsecocks, Panii probably are pretty much the same, and satyrs also tend to be well endowed.
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>>121797896
Certainly
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>>121830313
Depends on what you count as dicks.

The entire nation of Yomi are massive cocks.
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>>121830313
Most birds don't have a penis, but if Caelians happen to have one, they could be a contender.
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>>121830801
This nigga

All the Vanir wimmin love dem Colossi BMCs
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>>121828552
Dis gon b bad
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>>121834645
Nah, gonna be pure fun.

JOIN NOW NERDS
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>>121834645
JUST
DO
IT
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>>121828552
I bet there's at least two tricked out Erf Sneks with meme names, mark my words.
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>>121835729
Erf Sneks are shit, I doubt that there are 2 stupid eno-
> /domg/ scrubs
Nevermind, it seems you are right.
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>>121836192

Just think of all that expansion they'll be able to handle though.
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>>121836474
Have you even seen the map?

Each player has ONE province to expand to, then war.

Meme game of the century.
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>>121836474
>Turn 2 AI due to the indies killing their erfsnek when trying to take their one province.
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Now is the time for your tricked out moloch / gorgon to enter battle. It is also the time for triple blessed ellves to appear at your capital.
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>>121837973
>LA
>Elves
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>>121828896
>wanting a high comittment game
>not playing with the Noob masterrace
>tfw 40+ turns in less than a month
>tfw no stalers
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>>121839163
to be precise, 1.5 turns a day on average
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UPDATE:
I received the file directly from Lllambeast and all is good with the world.
thank you all please continue on with your day.
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>>121840289
So I'll undo the extension then.

The person hasn't got back to me about looking at your turn, so don't worry about leeking secrets.
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>>121840289
are you sure? i still don't see your turn as received
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>>121838138
>This li'l nigga doesn't know about triblessed Vans

They're absolute shit, honestly
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>>121841620
I was halfway through doing it when my GF came home almost done now though.
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>>121840665
forcehost, please
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>>121843924
Nah, no-one sent turns in yet.
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Ayyy
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I pressed it once, the hell?
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>>121843028
>gf
i love that meme
;_;
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>>121844470
anon-kun, what the hell are you doing?
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>>121844998
Let's call this a great experiment in why putting -50 into the postpone game field is a bad idea, the forcehost button exists for a reason.
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>>121839163
I can't wait for this batch of noobs to grow up
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>>121844619
>not even a ring of wizardy
Shit deal.
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>>121845584
I don't want to beat up noobs, and yet I still want to play with all of them ;_;
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>>121839163
I would have loved to play but couldn't join. I am extremely sad about that.

Which age it is btw?


Guys we are also looking for a sub to EA Mictlan in a normal position at turn 15 with just 1 stale.

Please come and help.
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What's happening with stalewarriors?
Am I resending a turn?
30, or 31?
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Time to regroup and go on the offensive.
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>>121848597
Turn 30, I managed to get it to mess up and advance two turns instead of one so I undid it so we're on the right turn.
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>>121848105
>EA mictlan
I might be up for this.
I'm completely new, though.
This will be my first MP.
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>>121848865
Give it a punt, if you find you have no blood slaves and need some immediately I've got a few randomly.
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>>121849032
I don't know how to join.
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>>121849102
That's because it's not just you to do stuff, you need to give your email adress to the admin, either here or on steam (there's a discussion in the steamgroup for the game so you know whom he is), then he changes the email for Mitclan to yours and forces a turn resend.
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>>121849102
>>Play by email guide:
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551
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>>121848865
As long as you aren't a tester
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>>121848695
so I should be resubmitting a previously submitted turn, yeah?
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>>121848105
No stalers is MA isn't it?

btw, rate-
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>>121849778
EA
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>>121849778
>using a hero as a thug
>0/10
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>>121848667
Looks like burds are trying to help Abysia too, I might just blitz for their cap while Theredos deals with Abysia. You need any aid? I've got a lot of spare gold and gems, few items hanging around.
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>>121849612
No, you're doing turn 30 for the first time, unless you completed turn 30 and sumitted it within five minutes.
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>>121849612
>>121849984
no one did turn 30, all of staled (except the AIs, who were raping me)
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>>121849975
Nature, air and earth gems would be extremely helpful, as well as any spare fire brands. I can send you some blood slaves I randomly have, and maybe some pearls.
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>>121848105
I'd like to try EA mictlan then.
Email is Kiirdom at gmail
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>>121850291
all of us*
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>>121763979
All went according to plan. Fuck you Oceania ya bless rushin bitch.
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>>121848105
>>121848865
>>121849778
>>121849852
>>121850454
Guys i am retarded. it's MA Mictlan.

You still want to play?
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>>121850956
Well, this is awkward, if he doesn't take your cap he has no cap.
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>>121849321
This meme needs to die.
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>>121850956
Was the plan to have an awake immobile pretender, then to cut off his troops from retreating?
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>>121851964
If so, that's a damn dastardly plan, albeit insanely difficult to actually pull off.
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>>121850358
I'll send an aid shipment in a turn or two. hold out!
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>>121851964
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>>121852967
Where did the commanders go though?
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>>121852967
Ah, assassins, so simple yet so deadly.
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>>121851964
>>121852967
None of his troops survived since he couldn't retreat. As a side note fuck you Pangaea you shit trying to take my fucking land provinces.
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>>121853156
So to get this straight, I named my pretender to fight R'lyeh, ended up stuck the other side of Oceania so had to fight him, who'd attacked R'lyeh but failed miserably, and so by sitting on his cap have stopped him having any chance of not dying.
Apparently nothing I plan for before a game happens, friends R'lyeh?
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>>121852967
>>121853152
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>>121854114
Any adventurer worth his salt knows how to easily kill a magical fountain of blood!

Piss in it.
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>>121854114
>He didn't give his fountain blood slaves.
Deserved
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Tien'china, how much fire gems for your blood slaves?
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>>121850968
eeeeeeh.
Sure, I'll take the mantle.
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>>121853780
I do love having friends.
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Things are heating up in our little world, Lanka has crossed the river which'll now be known as the Danube, and my army once again is marching on the walls of Niefelheim this time in summer instead of winter.

Sauro still hasn't taken AI Mitclan's cap.
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>>121855210
Two slaves a gem?
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>>121856361
it sounds fair, i'm batman.
I'm sending you 40 fire rocks for your 80 cute ladies, okay?
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>>121858428
Understood, my winged friend. I've actually only got 78 right now though, I can send the last two next turn or just take 39 gems instead.
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I got the battle replay bug. What are the real casualties? The ones I see in the battle report, or the ones I can observe in the replay?
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>>121858712
i just wanted rounded numbers, but i dont care at all. 39 for 78 then.
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>>121858738
The report is what happened when Llamaserver simulated the battle, which is what ends up allive or dead. The viewing of the battle is your pc, given the battles start points and rolls, trying to show what happened in said battle.
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BREAKING NEWS BATS FIGHTING BURRITOS
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>>121859109
totally the opposite, more like AI random invading people. Ironically that AI is going to get memed on, desu senpai.

By the way, did you see the southern underworld, Agartha? it's kind of a circus right now ;^)
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That terrible feeling when you forget to send a finished turn.
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>>121859109
Who the fuck are the burritos? Mitclan?
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>>121858428
>Cute ladies
There's a reason why they're all virgins
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>>121859294
a meme way of spelling berytos, probably
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>>121859076
Ok, thanks. I lost the battle, but at least all the indie commanders are fucking dead.
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>>121859294
How fresh?
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>>121859437
But they're fucking CARTHAGE.
>>121859453
Cheeky cunt.
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Breaking news we need a new thread.
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>>121859591
>berytos
>bewrytos
>burytos
>burritos

jeez anon, I'm not even the memer who said it, but you arent the smartest memer of the memeboard
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>>121859282
Yes, I see it. I will begin issuing eviction notices shortly.
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>>121859953
>eviction
>more than 4 nations there
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>>121859793
Okay, I get it now, but in proper English the pronunciation is wildly different, hence assuming racism and Mexicans.
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>>121860335
>in proper English the pronunciation is wildly different
I don't think you actually speak proper English, if you think that.
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>>121860593
Formal queen's English, what other English would be proper?
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>>121860768
How do you think the formal queen would pronounce those words?
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what a long day at work today. time to relax with /domg/
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>>121860136
To be fair, at least two of them are currently losing wars.
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>>121860860
I'll get back to you in the new thread when I figure out how exactly I am pronouncing them and can transliterate it.
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