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>>121349786


>NEW SERVER OPEN WITH A NEW KEY GIVEAWAY
https://treeofsavior.com/

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.

>Class Poll
- http://strawpoll.me/5756393

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (open until 6th): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)

>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
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1st for Bokor having 14 bugs with only 1 of them being looked at.
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Anyone know what is this?
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FOE up in Legwyn Dungeon.
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Who /bored/ here
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Thaumaturges are the best
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>>121369459
>posting a lying meme picture
Don't do it anon. Don't make the same mistake.
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shitter here

tried to solo the level 50 dungeon and got shitfucked
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>>121369459
Seems legit.
Nope.
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xth for post butts
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>people with companions right now

ehehehhehehe
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>>121369681
I want to swell arm fist thaumaturge pussy.
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>>121369809
she'll just swell her vagina to make it loose and baggy
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Is anyone on Laima? Is Mage Tower 4F still bugged?

This shit is motherfucking gay as soon as you port in from 3F you step on a portal and get tped back.
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>>121369681
I want to marry a Thaumaturge
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>>121369681
>>121369651
??
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Where do I access all these other level 100 dungeons?
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>>121369983
You cannot.
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>>121354394
Reposting in case he comes back:

I'm very very late, but how does Krivis and Paladin work for Monk? I'm almost at Monk and also went Krivis for testing purposes, but Priest seems like the obvious choice for Sacrament + Blessing shenanigans.

I'm really curious about if does Zalciai really make a considerable difference for your monk crits? What about Smite, is it worth the Paladin rank? I'd appreciate your input if you're still around.
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http://ameblo.jp/tsuyucchi/entry-12086684212.html
How many numbers do you have to memorize for the mines quest? The devices keep spewing them out.
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>>121369706
The only thing wrong with this pic is that the wheelchair and big zombie attributes are shit.
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>>121369459
kkkkkkkkk huehuehuehue vlw ae galera!!
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>>121370029
blessing >>>> divine stigma

i have both a krivis2/paladin and a priest2/paladin, priest is better by far
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how can I give the companion an alt? ... It's 150
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>>121370070
Some. Just start reciting and eventually it will give you the quest.
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>oh this attribute is cheap no problem
>50 levels
>first one is 30 minutes

Why is this designed this way
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>>121370260
>get to level 50 of blessing
>only 60 more minutes until you get your 2 more damage!
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>>121370137
Thanks! Yet, is Smite really worth it? Wouldn't more Blessing levels overall give you more damage than a single extra damage skill that is only ever good against some specific mobs?
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>>121369459

What determines the damage for zombie train?
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>>121369304
But doesnt ele's meteor and prominence synergize with linker's Joint Penalty?
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>>121370379
str
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>>121369629
A dropped paper? S-sorry.
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is anyone on windows 10 and/or using amd getting gpu crashes please respond
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Any alchemists?
If so, PLEASE research/learn 'Item Awakening' and make a webm.
That skill looks so fucking freaky. You literally make your own instance to beat a boss and unlock an item.

Also, some skills that Alchemist would benefit from would be
>Thermamage's "Swell body"
EXP and Drop rate are doubled
>Chronomancer's "Reincarnate"
Chance for two monsters to spawn where you just killed one. Good for mats for potions

Prior to these I would take Pyro for AoE DPS and go into Linker to link mobs into my DPS. These classes would then support my ability to farm for mats by mobbing and AoE DPS.

Sound okay for Alchemist? I want to be an Alchemist so I built this build from the top down, essentially. Looking for any other suggestions.
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>>121370501

Does a bulky sword help?
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Can squires repair their own equips?

Maintain armor/weapon also repairs their respective items right?
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>>121370489
>>121370672
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>>121370659
I believe there are no EXP and drop inside an instance.
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What is this Grim Reaper boss that appears everywhere?
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>>121370351
you are missing out on 20 extra blessing damage and 40ish extra sacrament damage per attack, but at the same time the two extra skills you get from priest aren't that good for you

smite can hit upwards of 2k on demons as soon as you get it without even buffing the attribute, paladin also has the super useful 50sp regen attribute that makes so you can ignore spirit completely, and resist elements that always helps

up to you really,both choices are good
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>companions leech xp

https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/3rnbil/apparently_companions_leeches_your_exp/


JUST
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>>121370776
Hummm and what would you say linkers synergize well with? Thaumaturge?
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>>121370890
That's fine. Would benefit from leveling/mat hunting for potions.
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Is swordsman<highlander<barb<barb<barb<fencer okay? I'm thinking I might have messed up by taking highlander as my first advancement and should have gone hoplite or even circle2 swordsman instead. Is this character still salvageable or should I just reroll? I also have no idea what my stat allocation should be so that's probably all messed up too
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xth for Yes, Master.
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>>121370974
Those are good inputs, thanks. I'm really torn now.

Which is a good thing, I came to this game exactly for having options.
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Has anyone tried c3 barbarian? Giant swing looks fun to mess around with and I'm going for Fencer anyways at rank6 but I can't decide between c3 barb or squire for rank 5
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>>121371048
>>121370994
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>Go from Cryomancer to Linker to Thaumaturge
>actually start having fun

Holy shit, the synergy is unreal.
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>>121371052
Linkers synergize well with everything that deals damage or buffs. They just synergize with everything.
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>>121370012
Please help!
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What's this about a repeatable in Gytis?
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>>121371250
You could say that they link to everything.
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>>121371230
cryomancer is circus class
3d circle skill is funniest in the game
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>was on leaderboards
>decide to stop playing the game and just start jewing for a week
What the fuck do I do with this? I don't need it and there is nothing in the market I want even when it is up.
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>>121371416
How about I link my dick with your mouth Carlos
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>>121371250
So nobody has actually tried joint penalty with prominence or meteor and knows weather the synergy is any good or no?
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>>121371519
>All my attributes are level 1
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>>121371519
Give it to me so I can enchant my mace to +10.
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>>121371519
buy kisses.
I mean, hell, how big of a jew you have to be when you can`t control your money making in a closed beta.
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>>121371519
Make something +15
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So this stone exists in the Owl Burial Ground that's not entirely clear what it does. It's only clickable at certain times, I've had to wait near it for several minutes before it responds. When you talk to it, it asks you for fishing rods. 1, 2, 5, 10, or 20.

A few hours later, I'm the highest on Zemyna for kills on red fishermen, and finally got 20 fishing rods to test with. It appears to give you this buff, which lasts 15 minutes and as best I can tell either gives you 150 def/mdef or doubles your defenses. Everything on the map hit me for 1's. Changing maps seems to have cancelled the buff though, and 20 fishing rods is mad expensive so I'm not really sure what the point of this is...
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>>121371519
I have spent way more than 10m on attributes, so that
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>>121371602
With meteor it will surely be good because meteor is good. Prominence is just bad skill in general.
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>>121371717
This is probably the best suggestion, guess I gotta finish grinding to 170.
>>121371659
Mostly maxed, except for a couple of the 1% bonus damage ones that I have to get around to pumping a mil or two into.
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Server's down.
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I thought leddit links were filtered too.
What's this faggotry.
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>>121370163
I assume this is what you're asking, so I made a quick thingy so people know how to do it.
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>>121370659
I'll show you my alchemist build.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/6npj2l4mxa/

I might do something else instead of Pyro C3. If I enjoy linker enough, I might just go Pyro 2 > Linker 2 > Alch. Hell, I could even get something weird like Sorc. If necromancer was C5 instead of C6 I would get it for fun.
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>>121371519
Gift me an Arde Dagger
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>>121371761
>giving tribute to a pillar for personal power

YOU FOOL

IT HAS BEGUN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
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>>121371519
your're an idiot desu
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>>121372089
I bought two for 200k last night. Resold both for 700k almost instantly.
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Is it not possible to change hairstyles? I don't mean the color
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>>121371931
Server's back up.
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>>121371931
I dunno about you, my server's up. I'm just missing the market
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>>121371416
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>>121372026
How is leveling with that build?

Linker looks fun and useful, so that's why I considered it. Did not consider c2pyro just for fire pillar.

Worth?
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FUCK YES A BLUE MOB.
>It's just aspersion
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>>121372387
You mean Zalciai?
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>Sword is boring
>Only interesting classes in Cleric are Krivis and Pardoner
>Archer seems really mismatched and nothing looks fun until later
>Wizard feels like you're forced into Linker
Maybe this game isn't for me.
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>>121370776

Doesn't Link synch with that lightning bolt Elementalists do pretty well?
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>>121372497
Krivis gets fucking boring to play.
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>>121372387
Any and all effects that give mobs a blue shine should be removed.
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>>121372387
Even with all this grinding I haven't been able to find a single blue mob. I have found a couple silver and one gold though.
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>>121372189
700k each? holy shit
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>>121372351
As a Barbarian, I fucking LOVE Linkers. Makes it so much easier to dish out tons of damage.
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Im gonna do it folks.
I'm gonna roll Memelander.
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What's the price of varv skins?
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I'd really fucking enjoy if my client would stop crashing.
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Is there any class as fun as Highlander early on? I want to try something new, but don't want to start hating the game because of an awful class
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What the deal with this chest in Apsimesti Crossroads? Can't even interact.
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>>121371230
>link enemies together
>swell body
>they explode for some reason
UHH, okay?
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>>121372351
I went C2 pyro before linker just because I wanted more fireball levels. At level 10 it demolishes bosses, usually just 4 fireballs drain a full health bar of a boss. Fire Pillar isn't great for leveling, but in dungeons it stuns all the enemies it hits for as long as it's up.
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What the fuck. I just spent 10 minutes soloing a level 135 Abomination for my Rogue class quest. I had to use 13 SP potions. That's 3.7k SP used just to kill this fat lump of shit HP sponge.

Anyone on Gabija want to sell me an Arde Dagger? I'm currently using a shovel.
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>>121372723
early on?
no
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>>121372730
>Wizard
>controller
How does auto attacking with that work?
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>>121372387
>two level ~120 characters
>never seen a blue mob
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>>121372578
>tfw found a blue mob when I was at the 84-86 wall
God bless.
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>>121372730
thats not a chest senpai
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>>121372602
Yeah, 700k each. It paid for 10 levels of smite attribute!
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>>121372497
You're not forced into Linker. There's plenty of fun shit to do
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>>121372952
Fucking this.
Everytime I have seen a weird effect monster, it was a spell.

Every. time.
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>>121372758

It's so fucking weird. I love it.
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>>121372564
Raining lightning down on your foes never gets old.
I can't find anything in Wizard that interesting to fit.
Literally everyone goes pyro, ele, and linker, cyro apparently only has one really useful skill, psycho is bugged last I heard.

>>121373046
Like what? Psycho seems kinda fun, but I'm still stuck on rank 2.
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>finished mausoleum questline
>level 85 sadhu

Do I just that 1 level in floor 5 to get to Stele Road?
Mausoleum is fucking suffering
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>>121372978
Oops wrong screenshot.
>>121372943
I'm sorry anon but I don't understand what are you talking about.
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>>121372554
It is a really long as fuck cooldown plus a long cast. You get the fillers needed with cryo/pyro.
>>121371052
Let's get real here. If you wanna deal damage, you go full pyro/elementalist. The fact that people go linker just for one support skill shows that they're crippling their damage for one aoe skill that should be gotten by supports as a whole. I won't say the whole meteor/link combo is bad, but the uptime is terrible.
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>>121373193
If you think thats bad, wait until fucking Demon Prison
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVo2XfQPSE

WHAT?
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>>121373193
Do floor 4, more mob density.
Or the constructor's chapel floor 3
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>>121373137
Psycho isn't bugged, it's just that outside of Pressure (which is what you'd be doing 90% of the time anyway) are pretty gimmicky.
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>>121373235
That's used in one of the quests there.

I've been trying to figure out the three pillar quest myself.
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>>121373094
>>121373046
>>121372758
>>121371230
Looks like my Alchemist build should be fun, then.
>>121370659


>>121372849
Ehhh. Maybe. I'll consider it.

>>121373235
>L1
>L2
How do you like using a controller for your layout as a Wizard? Is it a pain in the ass to auto attack?
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>>121373281
Constructor's chapel? Shit man, I think I missed that. Where exactly is it?
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>>121373235
No idea but that's probably similar to the one in Fedimian Suburbs, where you get a key from a local NPC after meeting some requirements. It likely has a weight+100 potion or something.
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How can I fix Cleric2>Priest2 or how can I fuck it up even more?
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>>121373137
Psycho is pretty fun. But you need rank 2 to have access to a certain attribute for pressure that lets you stun shit. Then it gets interrupted far less often and you can destroy huge mobs without trouble. Also melts bosses.
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>>121373354
You need to finish all of the quests first before interacting with the pillars.

Check the pond at Tree of Faith first, finish that quest. You should be able to interact with the pillars after beating Succubus and completing the quest.

After getting the three pillar fragments, go south at the Tree of Faith area and use the Seal of Space at the Obelisk.
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Daily Reminder that Peltasta's are cuter than Highlanders
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>>121372943

like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubOVMgkqImY
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>>121373137
it does when you have to wait 30sec between casts and half of the bosses during c2/c3 resist lightning
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>>121372971
I'm happy for you, anon
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>>121373482
oh shit I saw that obelisk

i forgot about that seal of space item

you used it for like one quest in the early game and then you never use it again
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>>121373280
FUCKING HACKERS
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>>121373576
It saved me a good 2 hours of grinding probably. They are so freaking rare though, I have like 90 hrs played and only have seen one so far and about 4 white glowing ones.
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>>121373437
Tiltas Valley, far upper right corner.
There's no quests there, it's just a grinding area.
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>>121373505
The guy serious needs to stop attacking at the top of his jump and do it the moment he jumps instead.
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Strength is completely useless I heard? Should I just put all my str points into dex?
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IPF
IPF
IPF
IPF
IPF
Gettin really tired of this
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>>121373280
what the absolute fuck
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so i went sword2 > barb2, how is it into corsair 2, is fencer better?
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>>121373193
Myrkiti farm
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>>121373280

Дo cвидaния
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>>121373329
Well, what's a good way to build to use Psycho? I know they have that ice wall interaction so I'd want to go cyro c1 at least.
It worth aiming for c3 Psycho? Or maybe Psycho c2 followed by c2 Chrono?

>>121373478
Maybe I'll try that then.

>>121373530
Maybe I'll try it then.
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>lvl 102
>still using lvl 40 gear

MARKET WHEN, IT'S BEEN DAYS
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>>121373375
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h3e8hRaRE0

This is shortly after hitting Pyro C2. Linker would be better for the group dungeon at level 50 though.
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Two of our healers bailed out before entering the lvl 130 dungeon, any healer out there who can save us in this pinch?

Please post IGN
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>>121372921
Why not just do runs for it?
If you just dash to the boss it takes less than 10 minutes per attempt.
I can help if you want
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Does a drop table exist?
and if so why is it not in the op?
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>>121373960
Stupid me typing the wrong thing to, >>121373530
You have a point, but it was fun watching stuff melt at the early levels.
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Mouse + Keyboard is objectively superior control scheme.
You can jump and attack backwards without changing momentum.
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>all these people in demon pirson who fell for the grind til 165 meme
LOL
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>market was up last night
>finally I can get some gear
>treegool stems were 50k each
>ehh, not worth it, I'll wait until tomorrow
>market's down
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>>121373960
The reason to go Psycho3 is to lower SP costs for Pressure. I didn't really play it myself just know a dude who's playing it. Not sure how worthy it is to go more than one rank in Psycho, but at the same time it's hard to say if it's worth going only one rank into it since Pressure will be quite fucking hard to maintain and you won't stun.

Chrono is just kind of bad at the moment.
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wheres the owl grave test npc?
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So what's the deal with Constructor's Chapel? Some light turned on and all the rooms in the Prayer Room are blocked off. Killed a monster and got a quest drink, which I drank. Then some random codes came out
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Where is the proof that Double Assault Corsair has better auto attacks than a Doppel with 2h+deeds+frenzy lv10?
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>>121373280

I'm pretty sure many folks know how to do this already.
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>>121374089
tosbase has a pretty good database, but a lot of stuff hasn't been updated in a while.
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>>121373354
I have finished the pilar quest, just use the seal of space near them. Do you know part of which quest this chest is?
>>121373375
I never experiensed any inconvenience. Plays exactly like Ys games.
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>>121374080
Don't know how scaling works for the dungeon. Are the enemies set to 90? I did a mercenary mission and it was scaled to the highest party member.
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>>121374182
If only it wasn't impossible to control melee ranges effectively with it.
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>>121374262
>if i claim it was a meme maybe they'll go away
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>Went Memelander to BRarbarian
>Ok finally new attacks
>Cleave is shit, holy fuck i thought i was going to whirlwind/tornado myself around
>Helm chopper is a bit good against bosses, nothing else

Holy shit, do i have to keep mashing attack button for another 15 Job levels to get Seism?
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>>121374383
Yup, they're all still at 90.
It's a cakewalk.
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third crash today.
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>>121374416
>Cleave is shit
Casually critting for 10k at lvl 100, and getting a huge crit buff is pretty good desu senpai
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>>121374404
>implying it's a good grind spot now that there are groups camping each spawn location
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>>121374416
Cleave gives a nice crit buff, and does like double damage against stunned mobs.
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>>121373960
Psycho C3 is not mandatory, but it helps reduce Pressure's cost, and maybe get 1 to 3 levels in Gravity Pole. Raise doesn't seem worth it unless you want to fuck over pyros.
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>>121374416
Are you retarded? You use Cleave for the crit buff, not for the damage itself, and it isn't even that bad of a damaging skill.
And Helm Chopper is a fucking stun and a good source of blunt damage, fucking gee.
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>>121374416
BRarbarians are so stupid desu senpai
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Is dex useful for monks, and paladins? And if so, what ratio should be delegated between str and dex, keeping in mind a large portion are in con.
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>>121374276
>The reason to go Psycho3 is to lower SP costs for Pressure.
Makes sense I guess.

>Chrono is just kind of bad at the moment.
Quicken, Slow, and Haste are bad?

Guess I could do WizCyroPsycho3Alch to be able to make myself potions?

>>121374632
Maybe Raise stops them from moving?
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>>121374416
>I didn't read what cleave does

you're a fucking dumbass
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>>121374308
What are they doing?
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>>121374080
I'd appreciate it if you could show me the ropes. I don't get Burrow until C2 so I can't cheese dungeons yet.
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>>121374634
>you don't use cleave for damage

this guy
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>>121374746

There are puzzles there. One particular puzzle gives you those mobs as a reward.
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whats the lvl difference for xp penalty to kick in?
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>>121374724
Raise does stop them from moving, that's all it does. An attribute even makes it affect Large enemies, but it does no damage, so you want it for party play or PVP. Have fun with Telekinesis in duels
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>>121374724
The only good buff Chronomancer has is Quicken. Slow is silly since you usually want shit to move asap to get accumulated wherever you're killing them, and Haste really is too little of a benefit for a fucking rank2.
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>>121374785
Meet me by the entrance then.
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>>121374902
http://toswiki.treeofsaviorgame.com/mechanic/experience
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>Can't get to Mage Tower 4F
O-okay.
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>the select item will be locked
>right click a sword
>the locked item still replaced by new one
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if this demon prison business stays like that in the next beta i wont even bother.

If it stays in release i will never play it. If i cant get to fencer without having to grind my ass off for 15 levels then fencer can go to hell.
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>buff myself
>also buff the all the BRs around me

how do i stop this?
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good fencer build?
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>>121374975
>Thinking locking means you can't deequip it
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>>121375009
I share your anger, brother
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>>121375050
>>121375007
Ask him
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>>121374878
I'm not there yet, just for curiosity, is this only once per character like a quest or can it be repeated?
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>>121375050

Doesn't matter because with the way the game gets at around level 160 about 3 people will get to unlock the Fencer class.
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IS FIREWALL GOOD FOR PYROS? FIRE PILLAR SEEMS SHIT BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING 2M COOLDOWN
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>mfw Swordman c2
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>>121375158
>tfw there are people who are lv 200 already
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>>121374913
So Raise is a 1-2 point skill then?
Now to figure out the biggest issue next to how to skill, whether to be male or female. Wiz/Cyro/Alch looks nice on both, but the female Psycho outfit looks really bleh.

>>121374932
Well that sucks.
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>>121375174
Firewall is pretty meh, it hits few times and isn't great damage, you only pick it if there's leftovers points because the explosion skill is so absolutely useless.
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>>121375174
It is shit and firepillar is pretty good as a boss nuker.
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>>121375246
Truly real life kiritos.
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>>121374529
make that 5 crashes.

Fuck.

its seriously like somebody is against me playing this beta

id had a cooler go out on my cpu. it gets replaced, and now constant crashing.
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Missed the movement to new thread
Got the boss card from lv 50 dungeon, is it worth anything?
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>>121375240
>tfw did a dungeon yesterday with a c3 swordsman who complimented me on my build
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>>121372921
You don't need daggers until C2 I think?
Then you can get Venom or Karacha.
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>>121374416
>>121374416
>>121374416
CLEAVE IS SHIT. AY LMAO
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>>121375308
I've also found the CC on fire pillar to be pretty relevant
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/ha3nd7g0zd/ Is this good
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>>121369706
I fell for the meme. I could've spent this time making a Thaum, but I made a meme Bokor. I regret everything.
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Do I lose something when I die?
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>>121371048
This is bullshit. I haven't levelled any slower than all my party members, and my pet is always up, since I'm a Hunter.
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>>121375265
I wouldn't bother with raise, Gravity Pole seems to do what it does but better. Also them attributes.

I guess you could put 1 point into Raise for the Large-type monster attribute, I doubt Gravity Pole does that, to be fair.
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>Trying to grind from mid 140s to mid 160s all on the same map
>So is the rest of the server

I quit. This is fucking retarded. Literally one viable levelling area, but it requires a party, and everyone is camped on this map.

It's going to be hilarious how hard this game flops once it has 1x rates and people hit this sort of grind.
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>>121375479
I don't really know how's /tosg/ playing their pyros, but the things I've seen here are really demoralizing.
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>>121375656
Yet somehow "it's a beta" is not a valid response to this
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>>121375620
>I guess you could put 1 point into Raise for the Large-type monster attribute, I doubt Gravity Pole does that, to be fair.
That's what I figured. A couple seconds of a boss being stuck means free damage with no need to dodge.
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>>121375656
The simplest fix for this would be to remove the limit on instanced dungeons.
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Unicorn is the most pathetic boss in this game
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>>121375295
>>121375308
It's not useless you shitters. Lv10 Firewall hits 12 times for each tile, that's 72 fucking hits of pain.

Say you do about 300dmg per hit x 72 = 21 600dmg.

This is why you don't ask /tos/ for any advice.
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>>121375809
>making instances more relevant is the solution
LMAO no, just make more increase the mob spawn for almost all maps that need it and voilá, you have a ton of places to grind.
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>>121375662
how to pyro

step 1. Fire ground
step 2. run in circles
step 3. collect exp

Boss? Fire ground, fire pillar, enchant fire for fire debuff

You can also drop fireballs around, staffs let you hit them but honestly its not worth it, just drop some on your flame ground to stack up the deeps.

Flying mob? Ignore it. If you have to kill it use fire pillar.

plate, shield, and raise con some

Thats how you pyro. When you get to 4th class make sure you pick thaumaturge.

Remember to jump attack always to agro things into you fire area.

Do heavy grinding on high density maps, rush through low density areas for questing. Never use exp cards when there is a high density area you could be grinding instead.

Mage tower will suck.
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>>121375954
>He thinks players still won't flock to the very same maps
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Im doing offensive paladin build. Should i put some points into con? How many?
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>>121376067
Put some into Dex so you'll stop missing
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>>121375905
Have you actually fucking used the skill in-game instead of reading shitty translations in an unreliable database, cocklord? The skill doesn't hit for 12 times.
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As a lv 71 Bokor, should I try to reach C2 or should I just reroll some other class?
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has anyone complaining about Demon Prison even tried looking for another spot? I've gone from 158-161 today solo without stepping foot inside Demon Prison
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Just got to highlander C2 and used a skill reset scroll, but I'm not really sure which skills to spec into.

Catar stroke 10 is a given, but I need to know about Moulinet, Sky liner and Cross cut
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>>121376141
[citation need]
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>>121376049
Not if they are overpopulated making the not-so-inferior alternatives actually superior.

And if you increase the spawn everywhere it still wouldn't be a fucking painful experience to grind, even if you are not grinding in the best map there is.

This wasn't a "I want to grind in the best place but I can't" problem, it was a "there's only one place to grind" problem.
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>>121376126
But i never miss
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>>121376067
not at all

maybe when you get 150+ where stuff oneshots you
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>>121376270
The higher you go, the more you'll miss. Also you want Dex for that sweet crit.
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>>121376247
Go ahead and pick the level 10 skill in-game and test it yourself, you can reset that shit out anyway.
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>>121375723

They haven't once addressed the issue of exp gains. They've never changed or adjusted exp gain at all outside of the bonus for it being in a beta.

During iCBT1 the biggest complaint people had was that the grind was absolutely shitty, and it hit much earlier too. They didn't fix it, they didn't even fucking care.

They're not even going to listen to us, because the Koreans are telling them that levelling is too fast. Oh yeah, Koreans have higher exp rates than us and get events giving them free exp.

The entire levelling process after Royal Mausoleum needs redesigning. It's retardedly bad and just gets worse.

>>121375954

Mobs spawns aren't the issue. Infact, on some maps more mob spawns would make grinding on them even less viable (enjoy being killed in 0.1 seconds when you pull a group of enemies).

There are many problems with grinding, especially at 160+. There is only a few maps with decent mob density. Some maps have mobs that are not ideal at all for grinding on, some are just too tough to kill and give shitty exp, others have mobs that can 2 shot anyone and come in large groups so you will die pulling them. Exp needed per level increases at a significantly higher rate than exp gained. Quests and dungeons stop giving decent amounts of exp. There is absolutely nothing else worth doing.

The game is so poorly designed after Royal Mausoleum I'm beginning to believe that the Koreans just don't test shit at all.
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>only 70+ around the 50 dungeon
I-it's not like I wanted experience or anything anyway
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>>121376360
I'm a barb with 50 dex at 133 and I can't recall the last time I missed an attack.
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>>121376243
What's the fucking mystery? Catar is strong, Moulinet is strong, Cross Cut is strong, Sky Liner is strong, get all of them and at least one lvl (or 3 for the attribute) of the parry.
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>>121375809
The problem is that the 160 dungeon gives literally no xp. If it gave as much as the 130 did at 130 (like a level and a half per run) no one would be at demon prison for long.

But i heard reports of people at 160 who got 7% from a run.

7.
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>>121376565
The mystery is that I don't want to use more icoins than is necessary
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Where is the korean meme corsair guy?
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>>121376558
Yeah but he has 10 dex. Also
>Not going for Dex on Barb
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With all the complaining about the grind at level 160+, has anyone actually made a post on the forums complaining about it?

I mean, really? If it's that bad, why the fuck aren't you all telling IMC? If a ton of posts complaining about this shit are made, they're going to have to listen to it. And yet I don't see a single post complaining about it.
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what will you do when groups of brbarians literally control servers on release
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>>121369629
Hidden quest, there should be like 4 more but I only found 3 more of those so I pretty much gave up.
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>>121376727
>muh crit barb

cool story bro
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Guys, C3 Barb or C1 Squire
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>>121376529
It doesn't matter because we have too many people who want to suck IMC instead of giving good feedback.

The only thing to do is to just keep posting your views on the forums and ignore the retard defence force.
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>>121376728
Its not even that bad. There are people 170+ - 200 already.

Its a bunch of cry babies that can't grind.
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>>121376728
All the people that are at that level are the fuckos who treat this like a demo, and not a beta. They're too busy with stroking e-peens to actually report bugs and give feedback.
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>>121376754

Unless a lot of the big issues with the game are fixed, most of us wont be playing on release.
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Do paladins and monks benifit from dex? As a priest levelling you see more direct benifit from pure STR as you are auto attacking but now that you have skills dealing physical attack damage, should you re-spec into dex?
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>>121376807
Then you're retarded
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best way to get white hair?
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>>121376754
I'm gonna roll Thauma, i'm trying it now. Everyone will want to pet me and have in their BRbarian party.
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>>121376415
not him, but i had a pyro earlier which i deleted. I only got it to 40 but i had level 5 firewall and it seemed to act like it was supposed to, 7 hits per block. They all hit in one big burst though. If something ran into it they would get hit all the times at once

was something else happening and i didn't notice?
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>that feel when you're still doing Mausoleum F5 and you're already 97

I'm glad I did the farms.
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>>121376529
>its shit shit shit shiiiit
I mean I'm not 160 yet but it really wasn't that bad even after mausoleum, I don't know what are you people complaining about, the leveling feels just average, I don't find anything really that bad.

My problem with the game is that it's too linear and a lot of maps have really low respawns so leveling in them is impossible, and higher respawn would make leveling a lot funner.

And no, I'm not highlander.
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>>121376967
I'm 73 and I got to mausoleum f1
how fucked am I
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Man, I wish this game had some kind of function for leaving items for players to buy, and where you could search the items other players left for you to buy
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>Complaining about anything on the forums
Kek
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>>121376898
>Crit barb is gr8 u guise
>Hers all my proof
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>levelling is too hard wahhh

nice thread
gb2whatever shit mmo you came from
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Female Bokors make my dick erect
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>>121376863

There are a few people 170+ because they played 20 hours a day and beat the rest of the server to the best grinding spot (the only grinding spot).

Right now, this map which was the only area to grind, is one of the worst areas in the game to grind purely because of how many people are playing on it.

It took these people 2-3 days of 15+ hours of grinding a day to get past this shitty area. With how many people are in this area now, it's going to take you 2-3 weeks. At a massively inflated exp rate no less.
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>>121371097
Ehhh. Circle 2 is so early you might as well reroll if you're not happy. Though personally I'm testing Highlander 2, Barb 2, Fencer anyway.

Stat reset scrolls are only 5 icoins though.
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[PSA] Beware of upgrading your weapons near Psychokino's. (self.treeofsavior)

submitted 5 hours ago by RaitoGG

Psychokinos can throw your anvil and destroy it, leaving you without the anvil and also losing out on the money it cost to upgrade the weapon. BEWARE.
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Seems that they've changed the way encoding works with the last kCBT patch, or IPF Suite just doesn't work with any IPF files anymore.

No more information from the files for a bit, I guess.
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>Try to go to Mage Tower 4F
>Always ported back to 3F
>Try again
>ZONE ERROR
>This server is closed.
>This server is closed.
>This server is closed.
>This server is closed.
Nice game.
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>>121377079
then the problem is only one channel, not the grind, dumbfuck
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>>121376985
>I mean I'm not 160 yet
I wouldn't say shit about the grind then. You have to grind 10+ levels and it sucks.
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>>121377079
Will this inflated XP meme ever stop?
There have been no set rates yet, who knows what they will roll with on release.
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>>121377192
Are you on lamia?
I don't have this problem on gabigabi
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>>121377120
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>>121377120
That is amazing!
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>LINKER LINKING EVERYBODY INCLUDING TANKS AND MAGES
REEEEEEEEEE
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>Gungho lv10
>do 15 more damage when I hit something
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good spot to grind to get 60 from 59
dont say dungeon
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>>121376863
Wheres your lvl 170+ character then?
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>>121377234
That's why I clarified, because maybe I was missing something at that point, but since he/you specified "after mausoleum" I gave my opinion on that.
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>>121377079
>massively inflated exp

stop spouting this shit
there is no official confirmed exp rate.
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>>121377236

There is literally a section in the games code that says "increased exp rates for CBT only, remove them once CBT ends".

They very clearly know what sort of exp rates the game will have, and are listening to no one when it comes to this and outright refused to acknowledge it was a problem during iCBT1 which had "normal" rates.
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>>121377074
Leveling isn't so hard, as it's hard to find a good place to level.

I'm level 134 and I'm struggling to find a good place to grind.
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>>121377251
Gabija. Now I can't even use my character.
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>>121377424
Then literally feel free to show everyone this.
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>>121377424
>there is a section in the game code

lmao stop embarassing yourself
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>>121377225

No. The problem is the games design is retardedly bad. At level 160 there should be around 10-12 maps within your range you can visit and level off of, but they game is so poorly designed that you can only grind off of one of these. The other maps all have major issues that make grinding on them a waste of time to even try.
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When will retards get it that it isn't hard to level up, it isn't hard to grind. What is hard is FINDING a place that isn't crowded for grinding or has high density for grinding.
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Did they fix the Chat Server and Market?
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>>121376670
Playing insetad of wasting time on korean memes forum.
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>>121377120
SOMEONE USE IMPALER ON AN ANVIL AND TELL ME IF IT WORKS
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>>121377605
As everyone already pointed out, the solution is to increase spawn in a lot of fields.
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>>121377628
It worked last night for a little, but now it's dead.
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>>121377052

Vendors are old times grandpa, auction houses are all the rage
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>>121377364
dungeon
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>>121377597
what other game has 10-12 viable grinding maps at every possible level?

have you even played a grinding game before?
people figure out which map is the best and then go to it, there is no reason to go to anything but the best, there are already maps you can go to, but they aren't the best, it's that simple.
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>>121377703
Back to TF2 it seems, thanks pally.
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You can change the voice pack in this game, if you didn't know yet. (self.treeofsavior)

submitted 11 hours ago * by Myrmidion

Not sure how many languages there are, but Japanese works at least.

Go to your user.xml file
Search for language
You will find two lines with "language"
Change the empty one to something like "Japanese" (for the little Weeaboo within us)
Go ingame and enjoy the cute voice while casting things.

Thanks to Steparu for showing this.
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>>121377720
Auction houses are a fucking amazing quality of life change for mmos though.
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>Implying that most of this couldn't be solved by using normal exp curves.
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>>121377050
Go do the farms.

Oh also
>that feel when you log in go into Mausoleum level 5 and see a blue mob in a corner and over kill it for max exp


I just jumped from 97 to 99 in the 5 minutes I was on.
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>>121377562
>>121377570

The comment translates as "- CBT3 limited increase magnification : When CBT is terminated Must Always remove"
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>Praying animation is ideal blowjob animation

If you sit while using a statue you can get suck in the praying animation without using a warp. Enjoy your erp.
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>>121377720
Looking throu 50+ pages of the same shit is triggering me, there should be filter with rarity of the item/type of recipe.
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>>121377836
and that somehow means those will be the final rates on release

ok buddy
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>gabija is kill again
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>>121377792
The Japanese voices are awful btw
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>>121377737

Ragnarok Online.

And the problem with ToS isn't that other maps are not as good, it's that they're not viable AT ALL.

One map for example has lots of enemies and would be great for grinding on. Except these enemies 2 shot you so you can't mob them at all. Infact, you cannot even grind here in any way, shape or form because you simply die too quickly.
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>>121377836
Oh, that's interesting.

So after 135 we are essentially playing at x35 rates? And it feels this slow?

Holy fucking shit, x1 rates are HARDCORE in the most literal sense of the word.

I love it.
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>>121377991
>Ragnarok Online

well memed
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>>121377328
>not going full CON linker to link yourself to archers and wizards and commit sudoku
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>>121377836
>Blue mobs have literally 50000% of a normal mobs value

Remove them and increase the exp gain for everything. Fuck blue mobs.
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>>121377836
>'SuperExp' == 'YES'
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>>121377991
>ragnarok online

cool bait friend
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>>121377969
baka desu senpai JP>KR anyday baka
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>>121377737
Not that dude but how about fucking RO? It didn't have literally 12 maps you could level in at any level, but at any level range there were multiple "BEST" maps for different classes AND for different builds, which meant people were spread the fuck out around the world, PLUS if you played in a party the best grinding maps were once again in other places.

In ToS the best place to grind is the same map for EVERYONE, in group or not in a group, and in ANY build. And they don't even have the decency to have more channels open despite the fact that level 40 maps with just a few players have 20 channels up.
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Does anyone have a Medina Crossbow recipe in iCBT2 currently? If so, can you screenshot the NPC selling price of it and post?

Just for comparison, this is the price of the recipe in kCBT3 currently with the adjustments to silver drops and equipment pricing.
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>>121378093
They sound like they're fucking screeching more so than the Koreans
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>>121377340
Have you gotten the attributes for it?
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>>121378094
>people were spread the fuck out

you mean people were spread out in like 5 maps getting leeched everywhere
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>>121378051

No. Look at the code again.

We're probably suppose to be getting 35x exp rates, but look carefully at the code.
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I don't know how to have fun in this game
>>
Someone go post this exp thing on the forums. It's the only way to get proper discussion.
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>>121378094
>It didn't have literally 12 maps you could level in at any level, but at any level range there were multiple "BEST" maps for different classes AND for different builds, which meant people were spread the fuck out around the world

This is actually the most important thing.
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>>121377836
>The grinds are supposed to be 12/30/48 times worse
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>>121377991
This is why people partied in RO, unless you're one of those that played on private servers with absurd rates making partying pretty moot.

Grinding Glastheim for a week just to jump from 98 to 99 was just like that.
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>>121375240
>mfw Swordsman c3
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>>121378262
>proper discussion
>"it's a grinding game just go grind"
>"give us more quests"
>REEEEEE

As much as I appreciate the idea of notifying IMC, I doubt they'll do anything. Hell, they haven't even noticed Bokor's Hexing/Effigy is glitched yet.
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STOP BULLYING IMC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>121378361
no

those are just the base rates they coded in

the rates are literally not decided
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>>121378231
It looks to me like everyone gets 5x rate and the other conditions are never even tested because everyone is above 15 so it leaves the if block immediately.

Korean quality coding.
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Is this supposed to be a boy?
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>>121377120
Further proof Psychokino is the most fun class.
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>>121378231
Anon I'm retarded please explain
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>>121377836
>CBT3

way to prove yourself wrong
this is for korea

and because they have a base rate set RIGHT NOW doesn't mean they won't change it, they have to make the base rate something as a placeholder.

why would they keep changing exp rates across every version of the game so far if they weren't testing peoples thoughts on them?
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Why does it feel like every new Korean MMO has to have a story quest?
It makes the game terribly linear.

They should have ditched the story quest thing, made quests a small portion of the game, and added a lot more zones for each level, kind of like RO.
I'd also like to see quests that are more about gathering shit to get a good piece of equipment, like RO. Rather than kill shit to get some exp.
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>>121378113
Here you go.
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>>121378470
No, it's supposed to be a fuckboy
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>>121378470
Yeah, what's wrong with him?
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>>121378367

Level 160 isn't even comparable to level 98 to 99 in RO though.

Max level is 600. Level 160 is closer to level 26 in RO. Did you ever grind for 2-3 days in RO at level 26 just to get 1 level? Because I sure as shit didn't.

>>121378510

>this is for korea

We're literally using the same client as Korea. This was even stated before iCBT2 started. Are you that dumb?

>>121378497

Read this >>121378460
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>>121378375

Better reroll
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>>121378540
Hm, they've really lowered the selling rate on recipes.

It's only 1038 Silver on kCBT3 now. I need to see how the other pricings are and what the silver drop rate is like.
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>>121378510
Changing them so people get to the higher ranks faster to test the other content.
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>>121377991
This a joke? hahah

Did you even play RO?
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>>121378470
Muras is cuter
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Are Dievdirby statues really bugged? The class looks really interesting.
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>>121378656
I want to see how far I can suffer.
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>>121378539

>and added a lot more zones for each level

This is what they need to do. There is basically 1 zone per 3 levels right now, with minor exceptions every now and then.

>>121378713

Did you play RO? It took like an hour or two to hit your first job, a week to hit your second job, and maybe 2-3 months to hit level 85-90. Then you actually started to grind.

If we converted this to ToS levels, that's an hour or two to hit level 60, a week to hit level 300, 2-3 months to hit level 500-550. Then you start the real grind.
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>>121378470
>>121378789
Guys look cuter than the girls in this.
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>>121378789
>the face is terrible
>the detail on arm physique is great

Thats what you get for hiring a woman.
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>>121378539
Reminder that there are people here actually defending linear questing.
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At what level should I leave Contructor's Chapel for quests to comfortably take me to 90? I haven't done Royal Mausoleum yet since when I got there I was too low level to get the quests.
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>>121378663
>IMC trying to combat inflation
>instead of preventing it in the first place

I don't know what the fuck they're even doing with this nonsense.
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>>121378470
>portrait doesn't match overworld sprite at all
reeeeee
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>>121378539
I just hate these story quests that act like YOU'RE THE WORLDS SAVIOR while you're walking around with other WORLD SAVIORS
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So Pyro Linker here. Do I go Thaumaturge or should I invest something else?
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What's your favorite meme class? Serious answers only please
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>>121378789
No, he isn't at all.

Like, at all.
>>
Anyone got that "viable classes" picture? I want to show a friend that's interested in the game.
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>>121377792
I don't like gookspeak, but in this game jap voice is pretty shit, at least on my cryomancer, not cute at all.
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>>121379030
muras has one of the better faces in the game actually. Still cant get over how fucked up his ears are though.
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>>121379153
How can a reply about memes be serious?
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>>121379134
C3 linker.
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>>121378196
Gungho lv10 gives 35 phy.atk
35 phy.atk increases my damage per hit by 15
Why would I trade 50 def for 30 more damage?
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>>121379115
YOU
ARE
THE
CHOSEN
ONE

AND YOU TOO
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I kind of want to make an archer.
Are fletchers any good? And around which tier/class do I become less shit?
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>Dievdirby statues actually work

Holy crackers I thought they were broken
>>
Just a reminder. Grinding MMOs do not succeed in this day and age. MMOs as a whole do poorly these days, but grinding MMOs in particular are a genre even deader than WoW clones. And there is a very good reason for this. No one likes them.
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>>121378836
>>121378375
Me and my buddy tried to do the C3 swordie and we both burned out by 64~65 and he doesn't even want to play ToS anymore cause he thinks the game is shit.

Well going c3 swordsman was really not a good idea and after doing my memelander to BRarian I'm actually enjoying the game.
>>
SEND HELP MAGE TOWER 3F AND 4F PORTAL FUCKING BROKEN
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>that music in starving demons way
Amazing.
>>
Just rolled a Memelander, this class is stupid strong. Should I only take Barbarians Cleave for the Crit bonus? Should I EVER think of touching Peltasta for Swashbuckling?
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>>121378375
I just don't know why you would pick Swordman 2 for a Corsair build
The damage Gungho gives you is shit and getting 10 more hits with Concentrate isn't really worth going Swordman c2
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>>121379397
>only got to 65 before getting burned out
swordsman isn't even a bad class to be playing at that point
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>>121379359
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>>121378470
tell me about it.
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Where have I seen this pose and expression before?
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>>121379359
>No one likes them

No, just the vocal minority hates them and wants the companies who make them to completely turn their game inside out and make it cater to them.

If nobody liked them, nobody would have ever given a shit about this game.
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>>121379283

Why?
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>>121379476
swashbuckling apparently crashes clients even if you weapon swap as a barblander so there's no point atm
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So Lethargy: Additional Damage.
Does it work for ally strike damage?
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>>121379072
>open beta this month
>they try to fuck up shit even more
Good work IMC
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>>121379336
pls respond
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>>121379523
nice boobs
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>market down
>shout down
>mfw catching up with my tv shows while leveling attirbutes

only need 3 more levels to max concentrate, what are you guys up to?
>>
is restrain worth getting at all?
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>>121379359
die
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Reposting;
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/do-you-think-that-the-game-is-really-linear/99194

What're your current thoughts on this build of the game?
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>>121377814
whats a farm
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>>121379565

>They were a vocal minority

So where are all the huge, popular grinding MMOs? Did the vocal minority stop people playing them or something?

Why is it all the biggest, most played MMOs are essentially WoW clones with little to no grinding? Are the vocal minority playing these games with multiple accounts or something?
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>>121379450
>Amazing.
>128 kbps

>>121379569
Because sharing all stats in party is just too good.
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>>121379772
>doesn't feel linear to me, i love how maps are unlocked and npc icons hidden

Stopped reading right there. The game is way too linear and whoever made that post has to be joking.
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To anybody stuck in Mage tower 3F because the portal to 4F doesn't work, disconnect from your internet as soon as you see the loading screen, then let it load fully.

You'll get an error which is okay, then reconnect to your internet and relog in.

You should be somewhere inside 4F now.
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>>121379697

If you are already C2 test it
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>>121379359
Grinding is nice, having gradual character progression is completely fine. If I didn't want grinding I'd just play a MOBA or something.
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>>121379604
What about Barbarian? Highlander has so many other Overheat skills I'm questioning in later circles that all have really good damage.
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>>121379790
>Why is it all the biggest, most played MMOs are essentially WoW clones with little to no grinding?
XIV has a big grind.
BnS has a fairly big grind.
Just because it isn't levels or overworld drops doesn't mean grind doesn't exist.
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>>121379072
I don't know, I'm checking Torches at Mausoleum F1 and the Silver rates seem... higher?

I can get a lot more silver quickly. (i.e. I've already managed to farm 100k in like 5 minutes from torches.)

Also bear in mind, the drop rate for recipes and items in kCBT is a LOT higher than iCBT currently. For example, Steel Bucklers which drop at Torches, I've already gotten 4 in the space of 10 mins. On iCBT2, I don't think I even got 2 shield drops in 40 mins there.

I also came there with 370k and I'm on 500k right now. It didn't go that fast before the patch.
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>>121379854
>128 kbps meme

not like (you) can tell a difference
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>>121379305
Because it's always more efficient to kill things faster than to last an extra hit?
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>>121375151
can do it once per hour, have fun
>>
YOURE A QUEST NOW
YOURE A GRIND NOW
YOURE A QUEST NOW
YOURE A GRIND NOW
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>>121379854
who even listen to bgm while playing? is this shit 2002 again?
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>>121379879
By loading screen I mean obviously the one you get when you take the portal.
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>people actually want month+ long grinds
jesus christ......................
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>>121379482
Kinda unsure what what go between I should do before going corsair.
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>>121379772
My thoughts are that everyone in that thread that doesn't think the game is linear has no fucking idea what linearity is.

>WE DONT WANT THE GAME TO BE LIKE WOW GO HOME WOWBABBIES
>Quests for literally every zone, no multiple zones for level ranges, mob density is shit, absolutely stupid quests that just shit out EXP cards so you can move on to the next map, even the guy who made the "leveling guide" on the forum has no real advice other than "dont use your cards until this level."

That forum gives me a fucking headache, it makes /tosg/ look like the pinnacle of discussion.
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>>121377792
>OUTO BODY
>EXPUROSION
>HIIRU
>SEFTI ZOON
>KIUA

We Arle Nadja now.
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>>121379523
I would a Vaidotas, every night
full homo and you know you would too
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>>121379936
Torches?
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>>121379541
I hope asanagi plays this game
>>
So TOSbase says there's a whole questline in Karolis Fountain, but I have no clue where that is or how to get there. Just beat Bramble, I feel like I'm missing something.
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>>121380058
>ragnarok online successor
>no grind
wat
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>>121380154
Mausoleum Construction Chapel F1, the 4 torch rooms with high spawns and the Increased Silver Drop buff.
>>
Requesting some info on Sadhu:
1) That Vashita Siddhi debuff looks boss as fuck at first glance, but taking another look at it suggests there may be issues. For starters, it looks like the debuff only remains in effect while you're casting it. Second, it looks like you can't do anything else in the meantime. Is that accurate? Seems like a great thing to contribute to a team while you just stand there, but I'd kind of like to... you know... do shit.

2) That's some sick damage I'm seeing with Out of Body, but then I heard it depends on the INT stat. Which nothing else I've got relies on. Is that right?

It's seeming more & more like I should stick to Bokor and take up conducting the Zombie Train.

No, that OP pic isn't influencing this.
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>>121380206
>ragnarok online successor
Fuck off.
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>>121380015
30 damage is nothing
You could just go Sword > High and get like 1-20k with with level 5 Catar
Level 170 purple leather armor gives you 55 def
You are pretty much throwing out everything to do 30 more damage
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>>121379523

You have something against delicious waxed chests?
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>>121379772
>500 Internal error
Those drones are lucky. They need to fuck off and stop sucking on IMC's cock.
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>>121380040
i love you anon
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>>121379620
Yes. The only reason to get lethargy lvl 1.
>>
Kerberos on 4F right now (Gabi)
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>>121380047
Uh so i have to listen to it after i'm done playing?

Actually i have bgm muted ingame and playing all the OST in the background.

>>121379945
Few songs are corrupted, be it on YT or right in game files. Unless they grace us with some FLAC (be it physical copy) everytime i hear said songs i'm just waiting for glich to be heard.
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>>121380145
Fuck it, why not.
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>>121377836
Literally worst than Tibia
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>>121378401
It's better to post. At the very least we'll be able to see if IMC really gives a fuck.
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>>121380303
>project r1
ecks dee/10
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>>121380391
>The only reason to get lethargy lvl 1.
You forgot about Quake double hit.
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>>121380237
Vassita Siddhi is pretty shitty.
OOB is affected by anything a normal spell is affected, even stepping on Zalciai with your normal body buffs your damage with with magic amplification on, and the matk contribution doubles when the soul steps on cure, zalciai or monstrance.
Bokor is suffering to level and the train scales like shit.
>>
NPC Blacksmith repair costs on kCBT currently.

Only the Rapier is at less than 30% durability.

They have increased the Repair prices (like said in the patches, based on Item Level).
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>>121377836
Is there a source on this code?
I find it really unlikely someone got ToS source code with comments still intact.
>>
I fucking hate Vubbe Gloves.

I hate when you are forced to wear low level epic equip.
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>>121380750
I hope the Koreans go nuts on them.
Gutting silver gains, while at the same time blowing silver sinks out of proportion is overkill, especially when attributes exist.
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>>121380750
>32154 silver
what the fuck

How the fuck am I supposed to juggle repairs + pots + attributes + equipment + companion training? Does money gain increase that much on higher levels?
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>>121380750
Durability doesn't mean fuck when repairing
>>
has anyone seen a dratt 2H drop from a meleech yet? im trying to remain optimistic but im starting to lose faith ;_;
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>>121380303
>he's still in denial
Nobody would even care about this game if it wasn't for RO
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>>121379482
what would you pick for a corsair build though
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>>121380881
>I hope the Koreans go nuts on them.
Do you not know about koreans? They eat that shit up and ask for more and harsher punishment.
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>>121380750
>repairs
>pots
>attributes
>upgrading
>buying equipment
>companion trading

do they expect people to buy silver? this gives me flashbacks of FFXI.
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>>121380759
Depends on how much IMC fucked up their encryption when sending out the beta.

I recall seeing similar numbers from a kcbt data dump as well.
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>>121381030
whats your build and how are the skills?
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>>121379494
It's horrible eats a lot of mana pots and it doesn't even dps that well.
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>>121380750
This is to make squires into an actual online job now, forget about playing just repair shit
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>>121380881
Those guys are mashochist, they'll probably riot and them that its not enough to curb inflation.
>>
So how many levels of daino do you guys think are needed? I was going c2 krivis. Should I max it?
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>>121381071
This
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>>121380750
I love how theirs means of combatting late/endgame money is to absolutely buttfuck anyone who isn't at that point already.

Someone in his 50s could go out in gear appropriate for his level, grind until his equipment's dead, and might end up spending more silver than he fucking made.
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>>121380414
Come on guys, we're like 4 people there
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>>121380964
Yes. You'll notice a steep increase in gains when doing Gytis, and eventually end up with more money than you thought you'd need. Of course, it's going to balance out when you're leveling level 80 attributes and enchanting, but you'll still be making more money than the boss farmers at the miner's village.

30k to repair doesn't mean jack when you're pulling in 100-200k a trip at level 150+. Attributes and enchanting on the other hand...
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>>121380206
Tree of Savior's grind isn't quite the same due to the complete lack of options. You only have like, 2 maps per level, MAX. And both of them usually suck.

Also, nobody liked the grind in the first iterations of Ragnarok Online anyway.
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>>121381380
Mausoleum?
>>
>pets leach party exp too

make it stop
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>>121371075
Doesn't matter how you call it
Be it dosh, money or cash
But always remeber to bank it in
Before another market crash
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>>121381442
Yep, 4th floor, top right-ish
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>>121375240
>>121379397
Swordman C3 level 115 reporting in

Don't try at home
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>>121369459
Holy BR ist the zombify attribute really that expensive?
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>>121380737
>Vassita Siddhi is pretty shitty.

So was my description of it accurate? It looks less like a debuff and more like a pumped up deprotected zone that you yourself can't fucking do anything with while you're casting it.
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>>121379772
The is pretty linear right now, IMC is trying to appeal to both crowds but are successfully appealing to neither in this convoluted mess
>>
On top of the ridiculous grind at 160 a level at that point is so fucking underwhelming. Great you spend 3 hours getting an absolute meaningless stat point. But oh, your class level only moved by 10%? Well guess you won't play around with anything new and interesting for another 15 levels. Demon Prisons that way.
>>
OK guys I will make an exception just this one time and share the best mage build there is, feel free to copy me, just don't spread it around. intended for when pvp comes out

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/q80hexkpaq/
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>>121381071
I don't give a shit about RO and I like this game.
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>>121381535
Concentrate Lvl 15 is not worth it?
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>>121381543
thats only one of them, theres a wheelchair one that is also that expensive.
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>>121381480
no they don't
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>>121381520
I don't see it in the top rgiht.
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>level 161
>kill level 160 blue mob
>gives 25%

thanks IMC
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>>121381653
It is the best thing it has, and even then it's still shit.
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>>121380750
I still need to check the silver drop rates. But don't panic.

Also note, this might not come to iCBT since the Silver rates seem a LOT higher. Also, the drop rates are a fuckton higher than iCBT's currently, so it kind of combats the higher drop rates.

If it does come to iCBT2, you guys have full right to be mad.

Anyway, I think I'll just use Squires for repairing now. 1/3 cheaper and I get over-repairing.
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>>121381653
It's probably not that but

C2 swordsman was incredibly boring
>>
Can fletchers make arrows of a certain element, or with certain bonuses like +damage to large monsters?
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>>121381642
Sure, but claiming this game would even have gotten close to half the exposure it got due to it's status as a spiritual successor to RO is just flat-out lying. Chances are you wouldn't even know about this game if it hadn't got spread around because of that.
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>>121381805
dis meme
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>>121381838
ROfags confirmed saviors of tree of savior
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>>121379772
>i kind of prefer it to be linear, because i don't have that much time for exploring so it's easier for me to follow the story line
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>>121381957
saviors of tos of savior
>>
Talk me into alchemist.
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>>121381838
Actually, I found out about it via Steparu.
inb4 you try to claim he only did anything for it because of RO.
>>
I'm making a Priest foe party play and I just hit Priest 2, Sacrament is amazing. I've read from here Monk or Paladin are the next steps. But is there any merit to go Priest 3 > Oracle? Moar blessing sounds like fun.
>>
Can any higher levels help me out here? I'm at the Shaton Farm and I'm level 151. Only one NPC gave me two quests and none of the others want to give me quests. Tosbase says all the npcs here give quests. Did I miss something?
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>>121382139
You can craft potions and go into little sub-dungeons for unlocking a hidden aspect of a weapon
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>>121382067
This makes me legitimately mad.
>>
Anybody know the formula for skill damage?
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>>121381696
From entrance to 3F, keep to the right
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>>121379932
>XIV
>Big grind

WHAT? They make leveling so easy in that game that I got bored in 2 weeks.
>>
>>121381809
I get the feeling alot of players are going to be rolling squires for that sweet, sweet repair dosh.

speaking of which, where and how much are the materials required to repair?
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>>121382182
>lvl 151
>Demon Prison is that way my friend
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>>121382331
only real grind in ffxiv was the endgame weapon, but damn that was one grind
>>
Guys, why are none of you on Gabija in the 145 to 165 range?

I need to fucking grind Demon Prison 2 before it gets even more full than it already is. Seriously guys, if you fucks don't hit level 145 in the next 2-3 days, you're never getting past level 160.
>>
Can you give me location of that pink hair guy in owl burial grounds?
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>>121381831
They can only make arrows so they can use their skills.
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>>121379785
The farms north of Klapedia. There are 5 maps there that range from 69~92
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>>121382412
I finished all the demon prison quests and I'm not grinding for 2 weeks. There are tons of quests left to do still. Try being helpful instead.
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>>121382471
im 153 and sick of that fucking place. Fuck it all to hell.
>>
Which class in your opinion has the most lewd outfit?
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>>121382471
I got to 161 and took a break.
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>>121382145
I wouldn't go as far as to say that, but Steparu covers a shitton of games. If you're going to claim that each and every one of them, or even the majority of them are fully successful then that'd just be silly. My whole point is that the game wouldn't have the possibility of being nearly this ambitious or have a guarantee for success if it hadn't been for it's relation to RO.

Almost anything covering the game has gone into detail about that.

http://steparu.com/news/closed-beta/1351-tree-of-savior-project-r1-closed-beta-this-year
http://steparu.com/previews/mmorpg/1442-tree-of-savior-online-trailer-and-test-schedule
Even the first and second mention that Steparu made about ToS mentioned RO. Do you just think that it didn't draw attention to this or something?
>>
>>121382565

You've got no choice but to grind.

If you don't you can literally ruin your character. As in, you grind for 2-3 days now, or you grind for a month+ later on. It would be easier to delete your character and start over than fuck up.
>>
>>121382680
Female Sorcerer
>>
>Tfw a barb compliments your build after you help him with a boss.
>>
More like Twink of Savior, amirite
>>
>>121382754
there's actually a way around this
>>
>>121379772
>lans1234567890
What a fucking KEK
>>
>>121379879
This doesn't work.

Did some nigger do this on purpose? I bet some BRnigger did it to hog the entire map to themselves.
>>
Can one of you faglords post a screenshot of Demon Prison showing just how badly crowded the channel is? Preferably with the channel tab open showing there's just one.
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>>121382331
>Leveling is the only grind
Please stop pretending to be an idiot.

>>121382747
Maybe overall, but I didn't even know it was related to RO until I started looking into it.
Even as shitty as the game is currently, it's vastly better than RO ever was.
>>
>>121382916

Then post it.
>>
So what are the actual effects of raising Leather mastery in numbers?

Tooltip just says 'increases'
>>
>>121379772
What the fuck happened to all the people who were staunchly advocating for non-linear progression some months back? Why are these guys just shovelling shit and hoping that IMC will make changes without it being brought to their attention?
>>
>>121382954

On Gabija it's only got one dot on the channel list.

But this one dot is basically anything less than like 50 players.
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>>121382754
>grind for 2-3 days
No, it doesn't take 2-3 days it'll take 2-3 weeks. There are constantly full parties of people camping spawn locations in demon prison now.
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>tfw when there's one br in an abandoned klapeida channel that thinks he has been left behind all alone
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>>121383043
And ruin myself?
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>decide to just "have fun"
>no synergies between classes
>can't kill anything
>die easily

into the trash

someone post a minmaxed korean build for me
>>
Kerberos is down, someone can update the timers
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>>121382869
>hey anon you do pretty good dps for a qs

so when's my class getting fucking buffs?
>>
ITS RAINING GEMS
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>tfw all your friends quit
>>
Guys, is there some downside to Squire's Arrest?

It seems like a pretty good skill, but I get the distinct feeling there's some sort of downside.
>>
>>121375598
Your gems and dignity
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>>121379476
>Should I only take Barbarians Cleave for the Crit bonus?

Asking this again because I'm completely clueless.
>>
People at free spawning bosses are Jewy. They'll happily accept resurrection, but they won't res you.
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>>121383270
People quitting this game is a meme
are you willing to accept that your friends are a meme?
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>>121383356
You can't do anything else during it. It's still pretty good, seems great in parties.
>>
>>121383185
I imagined that would possibly be the case, oh well. Thanks anyway.
>>
>>121383040
You're the idiot, after Heavensward they made leveling super easy cause they want everybody to do end games and the coils. They even mention it on the forums and the website.
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>>121375598
Gems and durability.

Put gems in storage.

>>121383450
I knew about that part, having a 10 second disable that works even on bosses seems really OP
>>
>>121383465

I just counted. On Gabija there is around 25-30 players in Demon Prison 2 right now.
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FUCK YEA
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Just got the Vubbe Fighter Gauntlets Recipe. How hard is it to get the blood?
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>>121383369
Cleave is quite high dps as well and the 50% crit is really good.
>>
>>121383541
I'm assuming they can still use their spells/skills under the effect of it so your channel can easily by canceled I guess?
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am i rich
seems like sluts would buy this for a lot even though it's kind of ugly

>>121383491
leveling was always super easy it just took fucking ages and was really fucking boring
heavensward did nothing to change that, in fact it just made it worse
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>>121383606
WHERE U GET DAT
>>
>>121383491
LEVELING
IS NOT
THE GRIND I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
LEVELING IS NOT THE ONLY GRIND THAT EXISTS.
>>
For battlepriest
should I go full str of 5:3 str dex?
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>All the classes that use two handers dont wear plate armor.
>Cataphract is a mounted class.
This shit is gay as fuck. I'm going to pick Cataphract purely for the costume.
>>
this collecting small demons skirt hems seems pretty lewd
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>>121383606
>mfw I got nurse headband
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>>121383606
W H E R E
H
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>>121383645
I'd have to try using it on a boss, the video for the skill shows a regular enemy being stunned by it too
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>>121377120
Which one of you fuck heads took this information from this thread and posted it on the forums?

Do you not know the code of anon? Never sell out on of your own.

If I find RaitoGG in game, I will exploit the fuck out of you.
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>>121383491
and that's because they want people to pay up and quit under a week when they experience the horror of using the dungeon finder for ex-primals and alexander

or at least that's what happened to me
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>>121383624
Takes about an hour.
There's only 3 of them in the whole 3rd floor. And they spawn on random locations every 60 seconds, although you can try on multiple channels.
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>>121383057
Some guy said 1.5 evasion per level if you're wearing 4 pieces of leather.
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>>121383679
>>121383739
see
>>121380414
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>>121383491
maybe you failed to notice that lvl 40 out of a 100 attribute level costs 13k silver
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>>121383732
>tfw got a card
Kinda tempted to go sorcerer now though.
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>>121383783
The information came from reddit in the first place you retard.
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>>121383669
server?
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Here's Warp Costs on KR right now. For reference, this is warping from Mokusul Chamber.

A little more info though on Silver and KR Pricing. The rates of Silver on KR seem fine to keep up with these costs and the change of NPCing items. The drop rates are high enough that lowering the prices aren't a big deal (it cuts the time of farming 1m Silver a bit but you can do that just fine at Mausoleum Chapel F1's Torches). Mobs around Level 187 drop like 2k Silver on KR, maybe more.

The NPC Repairs seem extortionate but there are Squires. I'll have to see what its like when you level from the start.

Just remember that IMC said the content of some patches may be different as iCBT2 and kCBT3's rates aren't the same. I don't think this rebalancing will hit iCBT2, unless they'll give the same rates that's currently on kCBT3.
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>>121383624
took me 6 hous and I gave up
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jfc
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>>121383698
>two handers dont wear plate armor
Plate bonus is shit, nobody wants to take off fighter gloves and everyone goes full dex crit shitter
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>ftw i reach constant 5fps in demon prison 2.

Guess it's over for me.
And this game still only favors aoe spam since the mob exp is streamlined across the board, leaving most class (and maps) completely in the dust.
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SEND HELP PLEASE MAGE TOWER 4F PORTAL IS BUGGED
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>>121380750
>>121381809
>measures to control the inflation
>dont burn your money
>give it to other people

GENIUS. HOLY FUCK THESE GOOKS ARE AMAZING.
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>>121384034
Nigger I'm not talking about attributes I'm talking about the model.
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>>121383815
I got into a guild that ran ex primals with me. I even got a pony from Garuda EX.
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HOW DO YOU USE FIREWALL WITH MOUSE AS FAST AS WITH KEYBOARD OR GAMEPAD
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Finally a new costume.
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As a barbarian should I just be dumping all points into strength or should I be doing something like 3 str to 1 dex?
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>>121383624
Pretty annoying, but the result allowed my cleric to actually do damage.

As soon as I got a morningstar, it was straight back to the mine to make that shit happen.
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>>121384023
Where
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>>121383783
>implying you can even find the source of information in the sea of internets
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>>121384016
>I don't think this rebalancing will hit iCBT2
But we already had it 2 days ago?
They patched it back after enough people complained
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>>121384169
If you want to make it a straight line, just cast and don't pick a direction and it'll automatically place all tiles forward.

If you want to make it in a certain shape, it's pretty slow. Gotta be fast with D-Pad pressing I guess.
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>>121377836
What's this programming language?
I can read it but it differs so much from the beginner shit we learn in school. It's been a while.
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>>121384254
That's because the rates on iCBT2 can't keep up with those changes. It's good that they changed it as it's stupid with the current rates they have on iCBT2.

How the rates are on kCBT3 are different to iCBT2. Drop rates are higher, silver rates feel higher. The NPC selling prices have dropped though. Heck, even EXP Rates on kCBT3 are still higher than iCBT2.
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>>121384235
Royal Mausoleum Storage
Earth Archon Field Boss
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>>121369783
I'm just waiting to get my free pass for when I hit cataphract
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>>121384184
Cute!
remove the egg though
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I quit.

Demon Prison 2 is fucking retarded. It's pointless to even try grinding there at this point in time.

If they don't fix the game before release, I'm sure as shit not going to play it.
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Does "Purifying evil energy in x seconds" on constructor chapel signals the FOE spawn or is it related to a quest ?
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>>121383216
Legitimately made me laugh.
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>that feel when you alt tab for 1 minute to check the /tosg/ and when you come back you're getting mobbed and your hp is at 200 almost dead and as you try to get away, you come to find a blue mob and you kill it for that clutch level + heal

Feelsgoodman.jpg also 2nd blue mob I've seen in Mausoleum in a few about 2 hours.
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>>121379790
Because people with 2 hours per week of playtime have the money and they want to do stuff in those 2 hours
Fuck XIV's 15 minute dungeons that are a straight line were trash is only in it to make the dungeon last longer
Random drops fucking when?
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>>121384570
It's a puzzle/event you can do in those fields.

You can activate a Magic Purifier which causes a bunch of mobs to spawn and they'll try to attack the purifier. If you fend it for the duration is says, the entire field gets a buff for a bit.
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>>121384520
Yes. The game is going to be doomed if they don't fix anything
I'm trying now to find bugs and shit.

Shame there is not a report button in-game
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whats a blue mob
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How exactly is it determined if you get items from a field boss? Are all the loots free for all? Do you have to contribute anything to killing it? Is it possible to get items from it if you're way below the boss' level?
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>>121384709
Ah I think I remember that buff which increases HP recovery, never made the connection. Thanks
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>>121378460
For it to work, the order of levels should be reversed, beginning at lv185 and moving the if clause downwards.
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>>121384672

The thing people like you don't understand is there is a middle ground. You seem to think a MMO can only be "get to max level in a day" or "get to max level with 3 years of hard grind".

That's not the case, quit being a fucking retard.
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>>121384184
tell me how cyclone and mordgialsdfsdr is
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Does concentration really hit enemies twice when you have something that adds extra elemental damage like cafrisun set bonus? I keep seeing conc twice everytime I hit a mob
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best corsair build?
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>>121384520
I hear you. I have spent the last week playing all day looking forward to that fencer costume.

But i cant take it anymore. I have trails in the sky second chapter sitting there waiting to be played, havent touched afterbirth yet either. Shit i even skipped blade and soul beta (only played for like 7 levels) because i wanted my dress but this i just cant stomach anymore especially because it will all be wiped at the end anyway and i will get jackall for it. Not even a better game because the gooks would never actually listen to western feedback.
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>>121383270
I just made friends from around here.
Very decent people.
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>>121384847
What the fuck are you talking about? There is nothing wrong with reaching max level easy if there is actually something to do at max level. In XIV if you don't raid you are out. There is nothing to do. The dungeons are boring shit you can do in 13 minutes and you have no reason to clear them because there is nothing of value to get from them. NOTHING. You go into them to get your WEEKLY CAP of tomestones. Great. You need 6 daily experts for that. With a normal group that is 2 hours per week.
I didn't say there has to be a horrible grind. So kindly fuck off you piece of shit and die a horrible death, thanks.
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>>121384960
swordie > pelt > hoplite x2> corsair x2
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>>121384137
Barbarians look pretty cool.
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>>121384710
Only for certain hotkey configs. So, yeah, that's a bug too.
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I'm not sure how exorcism works. Seems like half the time it just fizzes out as soon as I lay it down and it does nothing. Am I fucking up somehow?
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>>121381597
This really.
Why the hell do they always fall to this "appeal to a wider audience" shit and absolutely fail at it.
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>>121385231
i went sword2 > barb2 is it all doomed
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>>121385231
why pelt when you're not going to be using anything there once you get dual wield
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>>121384642
I haven't seen a single blue ever since iCBT1.
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>Japanese swordsman voices are just different HAAAHs with exception of pain barrier and jolly roger

Well can't say I expected anything
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>>121385147
Half of the people are the /rog/ squad. I doubt that.
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>>121384291
thanks
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>>121385239
They look like Fred Flintstone, fuck that. I'm rolling Swordsman>Highlander>Highlander>Barb>Cataphract>Doppel
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>>121384960
swordie x2 / barb x2/ corsair 2
for max auto attacks

swordie/highlander3/corsair
if you want highlander experience, prob fall off later levels though
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>>121385349
i like swashbuckling more than concentrate and gung-ho, and you can always switch weapons.
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so +ing bows removes the archer penalty vs medium/large monsters

do other classes have any reason to + other than the extra damage?
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>person dies and is dead for awhile
>sit on their face waiting for my SP
>they leave right away
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>>121372952
I found 2 blues and 2 whites (item drop) so far at level 80.

White mobs are pretty shit. Though they're probably be better at higher levels.
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>Cyro advancement quest
>Walk into room
>Game auto walks me to the exit
Okay.
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Any alchemists yet? Show us your skills.
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>>121385456
lvl 5 frenzy is pretty shit, what does barb2 give for auto attacks
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>>121385339
no that's the max auto attack build

just get your gungo and conc up to max attribute
max warcry and frenzy along with their attributes
get c2 and get break assault
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>>121377836
But the code is completely wrong. Look at it, the 'if pcLv > 15' check appears before the others, so no matter what level you are, if it's above 15 that check will trigger. The other values will never be checked.

This code is shared between the client and server, but I believe this code is out of date for our server, since the current theory is that we're running on 3x rates rather than 5x.
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>>121385374
I've been seeing them a lot on my end. I've even killed like 3 of them in Chapel f1 when I was farming.
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>>121385389
You would be surprised.
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>>121370974
I want to go paladin at release, how good is paladin right now?

How often does that 50 SP tick?
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>can't PK KSer scum
shit game
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>>121385456
Sword 1, Barb 1, Hop 2, Corsair 2
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Before playing iCBT2 I thought it was a good thing IMC wasn't going to get a local publisher to publish the game.

After playing it, it's pretty obvious they need local publishers. Chat and market constantly down, lag out the add, forums barely work, can't even report bugs in a fucking beta.

Do you think if we all post about it on the forums we can convince them to get publishers for regions like Brazil?
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>>121385590
>frenzy is shit.
what kinda of weed are you using, i want too.
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Any peltasta C2+ can answer a couple questions?
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>>121384786
>>121384786
PLEASE RESPOND.
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>>121385239
No, they don't.
They look like barbarians, which is bad.
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>>121385803
Serves you right, dumb frogposter.
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Does scan actually do anything useful in this game besides reveal invisible units?
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>>121385679
m8 do you know what elsif does?
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It's schwarze not schwarzer desu
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>>121385819
>barb c2
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>>121385803
That means he outdamages you. Don't humiliate yourself further - everyone knows who'd win in a duel.
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>>121385838
Frenzy stacks reset everytime you hit a new enemy
Frenzy 10 has an attribute to keep your stacks
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>>121385862
>To get the loot, you need to deal a certain amount of damage. Party members get their damages added up, so party up for higher chance. Or at least I think that's how it works like now.
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>>121385820
This isn't because of foreign players, they really have been handling things on a somewhat casual, amateurish manner. Maybe they just don't have enough experience as a publisher.
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Have they fixed the exp rate on the Latin server? or it's going to remain as shit server forever?

Last time i tried it the place was god damn deserted, meanwhile Gabija was lagging as usual.
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>>121385838
the uptime is also too short
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>>121385757
20s when not sitting, 10s when sitting, just like all other regen in the game

paladin is definitely good, conversion and turn undead are shit but all the other skills are very strong, no idea about conviction yet but on paper it's really strong to buff other people's damage
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>>121385910
There's treasure chests that can only be found with scan, so I think they will be wanted for that.
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>>121384747
Some say it's a myth, other say it's an urban legend.
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>Some swordfag gets himself killed right in front of me
>I start casting revive
>He immeditately returns to a respawn point, instead

Okay, enjoy sucking at life, then.

>Monsters who fucked him up can't touch me due to leather bonus + monstrance
>Fags still keep telling me it's shit
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>>121385967
I meant highlander
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Remind me again why I'm supposed to do the underground tenet chapel? The monsters are all lower level yet much harder for me to kill than the ones 5+ levels above me in the next quest area, so leveling in there is painfully slow.
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>>121385590
frenzy on single target at lvl 5 = +150 attack
frenzy on multi target at lvl 5 with maintain stack = +75 attack for 40 sec

Warcry lvl 5 with all attributes = 49 * 5 = +245 attack for 40 sec

Then you get 5/5 seism for AoE, 10/10 cleave and some in helm chopper. Combo stun + cleave for massive dmg

better than hoplite corsair
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>>121383270
I basically play while my bf is at work and then help him catch up when he's on.
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>>121386238
are you a boy
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>Go to Demon Prison 2 to grind
>Realize I'll be here for weeks
>Warp back to Klaipeda and afk
>MFW I've done this about 20 times now

How the fuck do you people do it? Grinding is so mind numbing. I can't stomach it. Even among grinding games, grinding in ToS is especially boring.
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>>121386064
Nothing to fix
They wanted it to be 1x exp
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So what is the consensus on iron skin vs. aspersion? I've heard it sucks and I've heard it's mandatory
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>>121386064
It's fixed.
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>>121386017
thank you
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So EN Translations are still fine on kCBT. I think they just changed the way IPFs are encoded, meaning IPF Suite can't open them anymore, so no info from any tables for a bit.

I should still be able to check any icons they add though (hopefully).
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>>121386269
Grind with friends.
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Guys, why do I do more damage to frozen enemies? I'm using arde dagger I don't know if that matters. Does frozen effect make them into an ice-type enemy for the duration or something...? It's like 200~300 damage boost.
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>>121385948
Read it again. If your level is 15 or under, none of the if/else checks will be true. If you are higher than 15, the first check will be true, and the other checks will never get called.
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>>121386213
frenzy on multi target is c3 only
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Anyone wanna do the sidequests in Mausoleum 4F and 5F? It is suffering as a Monk-to-be. I'm at 4F's entrance, team name Kan
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>>121386213
>maintain stack
Circle 3
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>>121386268
we are all little grills.
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>>121386281
>EXP rate was applied differently at Saule server compared to the other servers, but now it is fixed. (Fixed)
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>>121386330

Grinding with friends is still grinding, and it's still shit.
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Does fire melt ice?
So Wiz -> Pyro -> Cyro
Icewall -> Firewall = !??!
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>>121384672
>yfw FFXIV combat is more complicated than ToS

That's just sad m8
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>>121386413
my bad i had wrong skill tree up

With corsair breakassault though keeping 5/5 stack is really easy
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>>121386331
It seems it adds extra damage. My wizard hits harder with everything when they are frozen.
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>>121386483
then you and your friends aren't the target of this game.
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god bless the anon timing zemyna bosses
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>>121386483
Who would've thought people different people like different things.
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So is ice blast not very good on Cryo?
i know Ice Pike is the best and I'm thinking of maxing Ice Wall for when I hit Psycho, but I'm not sure about Bolt or Blast.
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>>121386638
Max pike, bolt and wall then hit up kino
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>>121386560
Oh so it's not related to fire type damage then. I only really noticed the extra dmg on it recently, that's a pretty good effect though. Weird it doesn't say it in the tooltip.
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>>121386567

I can accept that answer. But I suspect most people will feel the same way once they actually hit the grind wall.
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>>121384184
nice
finally someone who isn't a fencerkek
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>>121386550
sure ill go with it senpai. the uptime and cooldown on frenzy is shit though.
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>>121386385
stop embarrassing yourself
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Suggest me a fun mage or cleric class combo.
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C2+ Peltastas, are the High Guard damage traits still bugged?
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>>121386483
grind with voice chat on, oh and lessen the whining while your talking to them. this helps a lot
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>>121386385
I'm going to ask you again, do you know how elsif works?
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>>121386417
>>121386417
>>121386417
I'm desperate please
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>>121386757
It isn't like that when you and your friends are used to play korean grinding animations.
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>>121384184
tell us about dopple
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>people buying talt for 4k a pop
>people are actually selling their talt to them
>talt vendors for 5k
How stupid can people be?
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>>121386985
give me 10 minutes
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>travelled this far to get into owl burial ground avoiding mobs that will oneshot me
>kill 15 mobs to get hair
>1 dmg
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>>121386269
alternative to grinding is a dead game that the mmo locusts will play for a week then complain that there's nothing to do.

grinding is there to weed out the weak and unfaithful.
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so what's better, Rogue c2 or Fletcher c2?
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>>121386995
Shh don't blow my money making method anon.
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>Someone challenges me to duel
>kick their ass
>I inflicted them with bleeding
>ticks after end of duel and they die
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>>121386995
Probably the same people auctioning stuff under vendor price.
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>>121386862
>fun mage
either you go full slut with linker and sorcerer
or you go full slut with sorcerer and thaumaturge AND linker
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How would you feel about 5 extra skill points for finishing a C3 class as some sort of mastery
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>>121387143
You have to complete all the quests in the area to get that quest. How are you only doing 1 damage?
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tfw IPF crash when you steal a grind spot
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>>121386718
So ignore Blast then.
It looks like going rod/shield might be better than staff for it?
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>>121369923
Still bugged.
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>>121387143
Black Hair Master Race.
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Anyone else running SPR archer right now?

I went circle 3 archer and I don't think archer is as bad as you all have been saying it is.

I've had been spamming oblique shot before, but now I'm starting to integrate multishot into the mix. Mostly had been 1 - 2 shotting enemies the whole time and if anything else needed more, I would use multishot on them.
Just tried out lv 1 Full Draw and it basically straight up doubles my Oblique Shot damage for some reason
I think reason is cause the skewered status effect also shoots out an extra arrow cause the enemies are linked.

This is some ridiculous shit.

Dat 100% damage bonus to flying monsters
Dat oblique shot with no cooldown
Dat full draw with double damage

I'm thinking of upgrading and using swift step for that extra 25% crit rate from attributes
There's also the -50% to enemy physical defense attribute for full draw

Fun stuff
I wonder how oblique shot would work with a linker
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>>121387346
pointless

you can already max all the useful skills in every 3 circle class
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>>121387147

Grinding is there to artificially lengthen the game by forcing players to invest massive amounts of time into it without having to make much new or interesting content.

Why spent time, effort and money making a brilliant world with fun stuff to do, when you can just force players to slowly progress through the game.

By the way, I've played Haven and Hearth for years. Literally no Korean MMO has shit on me when it comes to grinding. The problem is the grind in ToS just isn't fun or worth it.
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>>121387424
Stick with staff until you can get an arde dagger. Rod isn't better than staff until you have the mastery at around 40~ for cryos.
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>>121387481
hey cool slideshow bro
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>>121387481
my highlander does the same thing with one skill, no comboing needed

also I have 3 of them with two that have overheat
>>
Earth Archon is up !
>>
Archon at the Inventory Management Office
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DO I GO FULL DEX OR FULL STR OR 1:1
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>>121387678
Sounds like a boring class.
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/43pjbsdd7a/

How is my outfit collecting build
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>>121387498
so you mean finding curios isn't grinding? and waiting for the timer to tick down isn't afk grinding?
literally everything in HnS is grinding. youre deluding yourself theyre the same grinding game just presented in a different plate.
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>>121386925
The official lua manual states that elseif is the equivalent of an else followed by an if without the need for an additional end... but I guess you're going to tell me that's not how it actually works huh?
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>>121387767
11
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>>121366447
50% more chance to crit does more damage than 160 extra damage with low critchance, just calc it...
at the beginning, str wins hands down
at the end, dex wins until you get 90%+ ish crit* and then pump str up again.... (*thats about 210crit or so....)
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>>121387637
yeah, I'm pretty bad with making webms

>>121387678
neat, I'm gonna have to try out highlander soon
It can get pretty tricky to get full draw to work and you only get two shots pretty much
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>>121387816
yeah its so boring overkilling every single mob in my way
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>>121387557
Ah, alright.
I'll keep a rod on hand to swap to for the Meteor shield for some healing while kiting.
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What the fuck
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>>121387847

Missed the point entirely.

I'm saying HnH is the ultimate grind game. It's literally nothing but 100% grind with no cap. I can play it for years.

I'm bored of the grind in ToS after a week.

Clearly my issue isn't that I can't grind, it's that ToS isn't fun.
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>>121387498
here have a quest: reach the next level
reward: you leveled

congrats you aren't ``grinding,, anymore but questing

if you think 'go kill these mobs and collect 10 widgets' is content you are brain damaged

there is literally no real difference between endless fetchquests that are trivial to shit out and grinding and yet people act like one is anathema
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>>121388045

Enjoy looking at a level 200 player. You wont see many more unless they fix the bottleneck at Demon Prison 2.
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>>121388045
wat and he is 200
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>>121388045
>lv 200
>rank 32
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>>121387139
Alright, I'm back at the entrance, managed some of them.
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>>121388045
Nice.
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>>121388216
What do you mean?
>>
Well it's not like I wanted to finish mage tower anyway.
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>>121388246
Level has almost nothing to do with rankings. Item discovery and unique monster kills are like 90% of your rank points. Getting to the top of the rank is a matter of trying to craft all the unique items you can.
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>>121387481
or you could have gone ranger and oneshotted all those mobs with literally 1 barrage
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>>121388045
You can't handle the grind m8?
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>>121388149

I've just started playing Trails in the Sky. If you break it down to it's most simple form, the game is essentially "go to a location and kill a boss, there will be many battles inbetween".

Do people consider this a grinding game? No. And do you want to know why? Because it's well written, and even though the objectives it gives you are all very basic and nothing but "kill stuff" or "find stuff" it's presented in such a way that it does not feel like this.

Presentation is a huge factor MMOs are lacking. Presentation is what makes "kill 10 wolves" into some epic story about how you defended a group of people from a wolf attack.
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>>121386268
I wish
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>>121388045
>wugushi is bad they said
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/the-way-classes-are-designed-to-fall-off-every-3-circles/104437

This game is fucking dead on arrival. How can these stupid gooks be so retarded?
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>>121388465
I know it's not just level but I'd figured a level 200 would have killed many enemies most people haven't and explored areas most people haven't either, done tons of quests more, etc.
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>>121388401
the higher level zones only have one channel and terrible spawn rates.

and when they fill up you cant enter them, forcing you to camp the loading zone hoping you can get in to progress
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Archon fight crashed the game with him at 10% HP.
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>>121388783
It happens every time.
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>>121388759
Wow, who thought that would be a good idea?
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what's the duration of peltasta's High Guard? the databases only list cooldown at 60 sec.
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>>121388783
I loaded back in to see like 7 dead people and no one else.
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>>121388630
Immersion and world building are a thing. I dont get why people say "grinding is not different than doing meaningless fetch quest.

It is way fucking different. I'd rather spend 20 minutes learning about a local farmers problem in a demon ravaged world and gaining a level than 2 hours literally clicking a button until i hear a ding.
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>>121387143
what were you expecting?
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>>121388401

After level 166ish there are no good places to grind due to various reasons (low mob density, some mobs having poor balancing, instance dungeons giving no exp).

This means you're forced to grind from the mid 140s to mid 160s in Demon Prison 2 (the only good grinding location), then use all your quest cards at the mid to high 160s to skip to the mid 170s.

Demon Prison 2 has one channel and is rapidly getting fuller. People who got to it first had the entire map to themselves and when you have the map to yourself it's an amazing grinding spot.
Right now the map is packed and really fucking hard to grind on because you're constantly competing with other people.

Unless they add more channels (A lot more, like 20), or they make other similar leveled areas more viable to grind on, half the servers going to get stuck trying to grind Demon Prison 2 before long, and that's going to make your progress slow to a halt. The map is a bottle neck everyone has to grind on, but it cannot handle so many players.
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>check "skills that scale with Int"
>none of the mage spells
WAT
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>>121388070
Let me ask you this, why did you play hearth? pvp? zerg rush? raiding? socializing?

I categorized mmo games as
a one grind game or multiple grind games

In which a 1 grind game is that you only need to grind once and your set for all your next character
i.e HnS, most western mmo

multiple grind game
you need to grind for all your character
i.e most korean mmo
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What's better - Yellow Gem (Crit Attack) or Green Gem (Crit Rate)?

What does Crit Attack even do? Raise crit modifier?
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>>121388708
I'm going to take some random dude on that forums word as gospel.

You're right anon

You sure you're not the retard?
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Why instead of whinning here on a anonymous board you fucktards don't go to the forums and report all the complaints about EXP/grinding/the need of more channels and respawn rates and such?

Stop being crybabys and report to the forums massively so the fucking staff can read and do something.
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>>121389089

The list only features skills that scale unconventionally.

Otherwise it would include almost every skill in the game.
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>>121389083
Half the server wont even make it to that high of a level.

Barely anyone is at that level.
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>>121387357
You do reduced damage against red mobs and massively reduced damage against flaming mobs.
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>>121389132

Because the forums are barely functional. You're lucky if you can make a post an hour on them.

You literally cannot even report bugs or issues with the game, but remember, opening the beta to everyone was a good idea!
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>>121389132
>people can't do 2 things. Is literally impossible!
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Think I might have burned myself out, between the server being wiped and the amount of time I'd have to put in to get to rank 6 I just don't have the motivation to continue.

Maybe I'll try a different class, or just wait until the open beta.
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>>121389245
So Int with a dash of spirit is the way to go?
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>>121388495
yeah, but does it have 0 cooldown?
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>>121387357
Because I'm lvl77 and I did zero quests there.
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>>121389132
Because people want validations to the peers they are closest to
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>>121389261

I checked about an hour ago. There was to my count somewhere between 25-30 people in Demon Prison 2.

That is way too much for a single channel. They're all KSing the fuck out of each other because they know if they don't they're never going to grind out of those shitty levels.
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>>121389083
Are there really not enough level 8 and 9 exp cards that you can at least reach rank 6 without grinding there forever? I don even mind if i fuck myself out of getting to level 200 by using exp cards if it means i can actually be rank 6 in this life.
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>>121388783
I've never actually crashed while Archon was up, only when trying to grind the map otherwise.
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When are they gonna nerf BRbarian even further?
There's literally no reason to pick any other class other than Barb and Corsair.
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>>121389415
dont worry 77 to 100 is pretty fast
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>>121389392
no, but you don't have to sit to regen sp ever either
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If i go linker 3 can i still solo shit even though having pyro at 1?
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Pink hair GET
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>>121389503
>When are they gonna nerf BRbarian even further?
Why nerf when you can buff everyone to Barbarian level?
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Does black hair not work for anyone else?
It says I killed 500 hanamings but I can only choose basic and pink
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>>121389458
Yes. I agree I think ALL maps need at least 10 channels minimum.

However I was just saying barely anyone is up there yet. 20 - 30 out of the tens of thousands is nothing.

I see maybe 15 people here on Zem.

They added more channels to the lower level areas if you noticed. They need to do this for ALL maps in the game.
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Archon is still up?
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Does ToS feel too much like WoW at times? It's funny to see people complaining wowbabies because this game is full of things that are wow-esque design by definition
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>>121389460

Nope. The problem is how cards are distributed.

You get 15 cards per map. This almost never ever changes except at very low levels, and the few levels around the exp curve reset (in which you get less).

It's around 20ish levels until you get new, better cards (level 7 cards are from 137 to 160). At level 137, 15 exp cards will get you 2-3 levels. At level 160 they wont even get you a level.

The next zone is always 3 levels higher so you have to make up the difference with grinding. It wouldn't be hard for them to have the first zone give 15 exp cards, then 16 from the next and so on. But you always get a fixed amount of quest exp while the exp you need to level up constantly increases.
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>>121389539
But I'm linkerslut with no party and soloing is pain.
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Are Swordsman/Wizard good archtypes to play together? What would be some interesting combinations you could do?
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How long should I grind the level 90 dungeon to prevent grinding down the road?

>>121380181
Given that the first few Fatalpulse doujins were all RO, he probably will.
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>>121389765
Doesn't feel like WoW at all.
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>>121389669
Because nerfing one class is easier than balancing the rest of them.
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>>121389842
linker+ anything
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>>121387159
I've heard people say Fletcher is lackluster. The same can be said about Rogue C1 because you don't have access to Backstab.

Make your decision on whether you can reach C2 or not. Fletcher for C1 due to actually having usable skills to play around with and Rogue for C2 for that backstab and crit buff.
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>>121389834
if soloing is hard for you as a linker you are in trouble
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so I can just spam exp cards the moment I get them, but I need to do the dungeons at 50-60 90-100 130

that's it right? rest of the time safe to spam cards?
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>>121388886
I've fought him 3 or 4 times and that's the first time its happened.
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>>121389834
you saved up exp cards right
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>>121389765
>wow invented everything
fuck off, wowbabby.
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>>121389640
this is an excellent question. I feel like the extra oomph you get from pyro2 is pretty essential to solo with. I think if you went only one circle in pyro, you'd be forced to party to be useful during your 2nd and 3rd circle linker.
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>>121389672
I also can't use this owl title
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>>121389660
How do you even get it at level 91 when you need to have done all the quests there for the npc to appear? What the fuck.
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>>121389903
Yeah, let's make the game boring for everyone instead of fun for all
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>>121389952
I thought enemies couldn't get hit from the same attack more than once.
Did they change it?
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>>121389812
no i mean is there a minimum level required for getting the next batch of exp cards? Or are there even any? I can deal with map areasy 10 or 15 levels above me, what i cant deal with is if i am artificially blocked out of those quests because i havent reached a predetermined number (and those are all over the place btw. I could take on a quest in main chamber that required me to finish quests for a couple of people. These sub quests i couldnt accept until i was yet another 2 levels higher.)

The reason why 134 is such a dumb level is because the next main questline starts at 137. Is there even a main quest line at 170?
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>>121389672
yeah black hair doesn't work for me
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>>121386213
it's good but better than hoplite corsair is debatable

going hoplite allows you to pump into STR because you get 100 free crit rate, +3 extra aoe ratio for free, and a debuff that makes enemies take 50% more pierce damage with 50% uptime, not really too useful for mobbing (unless the mobs are really high hp) but for bosses you will just melt them with your spear + dagger, also stabbing and pierce still do ridiculous damage.

in the end I think which one is better comes down to itemization, if you go hoplite you will need to use a spear, while barb can use a 1h sword, and as far as I can tell endgame spears are pretty shit compared to swords, though hopefully they will work on itemization being garbage.
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>>121389621
Takes me about 40 seconds to get full sp back and I can spam 33 Oblique Shots off.
Guess I'll have to try out ranger some other time to see how good barrage is.
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>>121390280

You can only accept quests 10 levels above yours.
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Are there any weapon to skill type bonuses?

For example, if I were to use a strike weapon with a skill that does strike damage, will I receive a bonus amount? Or does it not make a difference
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>>121386523
>yfw FFXIV combat is more complicated than ToS
If only it was.
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>>121387481
>Full SPR meme, again

alchemist
potions

if you play a full spr archer on release you can have fun goying out for your skill reset when your build is obsoleted by an alchemist
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>>121390076
>pointing out a game shares similar design issues of wow makes a person a wowbabby
its the other way around, you apologist retard
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>>121384184
are you the Squire? I remember making someone like you grind my pole.
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>>121389765
You're right about linearity, that's all.
Nothing else
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>>121390561
It's been working out well right now, but I'll keep that in mind
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>>121384184
I gonna claim you with my semen!
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>>121390590
You were told to fuck off, wowbabby.
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What's better you cleric players out there.
Cleric 1 > Priest 3 > Monk 2
or
Cleric 1 > Priest 2 > Paladin 1 > Monk 2.
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Can you not dagger-cancel anymore?

What's the proper way to dual wield dps now?
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>>121390561
full spr as a c3 archer is fine because of oblique shot and the fact that you can realistically out-regen its SP cost
you will eventually spec out of it obviously, but the base damage is enough for efficient and fun farming
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>>121390952
The latter.
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>>121390952
Neither, go thighlander.

Always go thighlander.
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>>121390945
Careful wow baby apologist, don't let reality get in the way of Korean rotations: the game
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>>121390952
there is no point in going priest 3
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Any c3 barbarians? I need to know if giant swing and pounce are worth it
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>>121390952
Paladin 1 doesn't really offer much compared to priest 3 aside from a snazzy outfit.
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>>121390129
You don't? He was there when I got here the first time (lv 82), but I failed. Came back now lv91
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>>121384847
>>121385219
You're both making the idiotic post-WoW assumption that MMOs have to be about the level cap.
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>>121391060
>outregen its sp cost

lel no
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>>121391110
>Korean rotations: the game
wait there are rotations in this game? its not just spam you skills and autoattack while they are on cooldown?
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To whoever is doing the new threads "/tosg/" GOES IN THE SUBJECT AND IT'S TREE OF SAVIOR NOT TOS OF SAVIOR
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>>121391185
>no point going priest 3
Yeah, maxed blessing and sacrament suck compared to anything 1 circle of paladin offers
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>>121391353
Well if you go 1 in every class.
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This game makes me so paranoid when it comes to questing because i don't want to miss any of them on the map. literally giving me autism.

So the quests here in Aqueduct Bridge Area with the statue pieces what do I do with them? do i have to continue on with this quest line in Tenant Farms? All that was here really was the 5/5 repeatable, making the hammer and killing that corrupted statue.

You know what would be an amazing addition? Putting a quest progress icon on the map. Maybe like a [2 / 10 QUEST COMPLETED] kind of thing. That way we can't miss anything and they can still not have an ! over their head. The game desperately needs little quality of life things like that
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>>121391259
Elaborate please, people are telling me Priest 1 > Priest 3, yet you beg to differ. Could you tell me why and what priest 3 has to offer that is greater than Paladin 1?
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>>121391353
My cross slash should come before my skyliner.

but skyliner has a shorter cooldown so i just spam it whenever because i cant be fucked and 90% of mobs either resist bleed or die in one hit with either skill.

So fun.

Kill me.
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>>121391512
find all the pieces
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>>121391512
generally you will get 15 exp cards per map, with some exceptions, so just use that as an indicator
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>>121391060
SP regen blatantly shuts off if you're attacking.
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>>121391525
I meant Paladin 1, not Priest 1.
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>>121391206
Both pvp skills
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>>121391512
>That way we can't miss anything
Go back to your shit contemporary MMOs.
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>>121391320

Objective of the game is to level up. Infact, everything you do in the game in some way is designed to help you get to a higher level.

Your assumption is wrong because the games only objective is to level up. If there was something else to do in the game, then sure, maybe you'd be right. But there isn't. You level up, and when you're not levelling up, you're doing something to make any more levelling up you do easier.

And levelling up right now is not fun. It's not challenging, it's not involving, it's not varied, it's pure mindless grind of the worst kind.
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>>121391185
Stone Skin says differently. There's nothing in Paladin I would want.

Smite is shit compared to Monk skills, turn undead is utter shit, and resist elements is again shit.

If you're going Paladin you better go Paladin c2 or don't bother at all.
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>>121391334
well.
you can NEARLY outregen its sp cost if you consider the amount of time you will spend running around and not using it.
potions won't be enough to sustain it anyway, so you nneed SPR
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I CAN'T TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE, WHERE IS THE MARKET. I MUST JEW.
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>>121389845
You can do it 5 times a day so probably at least 100.
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>>121391512

You can always check each map on tosbase.

>Putting a quest progress icon on the map. Maybe like a [2 / 10 QUEST COMPLETED] kind of thing.

That's casual as fuck
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>>121391637
Now show us how useful it is
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>>121391637
You fell for the meme.
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>>121391637
>actually getting the gung ho attribute
gunna fukin puke
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>>121391609
Do you get all of the pieces in this area or are there more in Tenant Farm?

>>121391646
I guess that's an alright indicator. Thanks for the tip

>>121391669
What's the difference between having a TOS database up on a different screen then just having a ticker on your map instead? Cause you know that's what everyone is going to do in order not to miss any quests.
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>>121391647
>this meme
that's not true and you can literally test this for yourself by using your fucking eyes
sp regenerates every 20 seconds regardless of what you're doing
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>>121391671
About that.
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>>121391804

but you're checking the same exact thing on a website? how is that any less casual? is it cause alt tabbing takes hardcore skills?
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>>121391841
>>121391839

I can't hear you over my +119 damage

>>121391873

Yeah that was a mistake, I stopped before it was too late though
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>>121391681
I heard that stone skin is shit and it's better to put points into aspersion. Still more worth it to get priest c3 than pally c1 tho
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So some guy was getting 6 level 8 exp cards out of party event quests. Can you do more than 5 party even quests? Do they reset every day or something, like dungeons?
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>>121391669
ToS is following the contemporary MMO flow, not having quest markers is basically only due to being lazy.
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>>121386854
not op but anon, please. go ahead, explain it to me :)
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>>121391525
Paladin 1 gives you a whacker, a mediocre regen buff, a resist buff, and the crappy turn undead.
Maybe the resist buff would be worth it, but probably not moreso than powering up priests AoE heal, their self res, their percentage defense buff, or their extra damage buffs.
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>>121392107
stone skin makes you basically invincible against anything physical for 30 seconds

but the reason to go c3 priest isn't that honestly. it's for Revive. this shit is broken in PvP by far, especially if you go 2 into Resurrection and then buff the attribute of revive for 7 seconds long each attribute. so once you die you come back invincible for a hell of a long time. probably going to get nerfed.
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Crystal feelers droprate feels like shit. Is it because I'm far above their level or what?
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>>121391892
They disabled side quest icons for the international version because gook logic.
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>>121392059

No, it's a fact.

The game has no other content except grinding to increase your level.
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>>121392068

But I don't. I also don't want a quest progress icon on my screen.
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>>121391892
they are all there
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>>121392335
wait there was a side quest icon before? got any pictures?
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I'm level 80, is there any point in doing the level 50 dungeon for the first time?
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>>121392183
>ToS is following the contemporary MMO flow
If that was the case you'd have huge exclamation marks everywhere.
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>>121392345
pretty sure he meant the fun thing

i think it's fun
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Is there anyway to talk to the oracle master?
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>>121386442
nigga
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does blessing and or sacrament affects bokor's zombies? or pets at all? what about monstrance and zalciai?
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>>121392082
No seriously I want to know if it is good for auto attack builds
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WELCOME TO MAIN CHAMBER
I HOPE YOU LIKE GETTING FROZEN

why are so many of the zones so awful?

Really the last one I actually enjoyed killing in was starving demon's way
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>>121390242
>implying you care about anyone else fun
Only utter trash plays BRbarians.
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Nude model/skin replacements when
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what level can i expect to get circle 5 at
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>>121391259
>>121391457
>>121391681
SMITE is fucking good in grind prison anon. you will spend most of your time grinding here anyway so do it
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>>121389114
crit atk = damage of your crits
crit rate = chance of happening
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>>121392704
127
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>>121392708
lol no im going monk. going paladin if you're planning on going monk is a bad idea unless you want that swag as costume
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>>121392536
zombies can't get the blessing/sacrament buffs themselves, but putting those buffs on the bokor DOES affect the damage of bwa kayiman which is pretty fucking rad
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Wiz 3 Ele2

I kinda want to go alchemist, but maybe ele3 is a better choice. What do you think /tosg/?
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>>121392864
it's literally not

smite5 will still do more damage than anything monk has against demons, and will do way more damage than some extra points on blessing/sacrament would do

stone skin is worthless because you don't use a shield as a monk
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>>121392715
no
crit atk = additional damage after a crit... this dmg also bypasses def!

if you hit for 1s and have 10 critatk you will do 11 damage if you crit...
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>>121392907
seriously? sacrament makes bwa kamiyan hit pretty much twice? that sounds very exploitable....
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>>121392452
Obviously not.
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>>121393007
Key point is
AGAINST DEMONS.
kek
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Could somebody please tell me if this is alright for priest so far or did I fuck up?
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>>121392654

Zones only get worse after Main Chamber.

The game doesn't seem balanced after this level.
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>>121393104
all monsters in dungeons and 70% of the bosses

70 more damage on hit doesn't even begin to compare
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>>121393142
You did fuck up the moment you didn't put all your shit into str
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>>121393142
It's never too late to get 5 iCoins.
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>>121393208
monk only spam double punch and kamehameha. no time for smite
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>>121392309
Drop rates are static. Check tosbase.

>>121392446
Ask one of the kCBT testers when you get the chance.
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>>121392027
Definitely not on my pyro.
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>>121393301
t. someone who hasn't touched monk
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>>121393335
it definitely does you retard you just have like 20 sp recovery so you don't notice
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>they created a LatAm server
>it isn't even on LatAm
Hey gringos, guess who's not a BR and will stay on Gab.
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>>121393208
Wants to deal more damage than
Sacrament + Blessing + Double Punch + KAMEHAMEFUCKINGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Anon please, your memes aren't dank.
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>>121392907
Shit, I should've gone priest on Rank 2 instead of krivis then
what a waste of a character and time
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>>121392635
Is awesome.
Not the same anon, but I'm highlander rank 2, lvl 67 and 50 concentrate and I'm able to play solo with this.
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>20+ channels in the deserted low level areas
>1 channel in all the high popular spots

why is still allowed?
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>>121393161
Spawns are bad nearly everything

but these fucking pure loftlems are just the most annoying things

3s freeze
into 3s freeze
into 3s freeze
and it's a tracker ranged attack too

It's not fun, it's just annoying and dumb
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>>121392446
There was never any sidequest icons in kCBT3.

They were available in previous tests but they changed it after complaints that there felt like there were too many quests.
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>that feel when you take aggro off a tank in a dungeon cause you left your provoke 10 on and your dps is just extremely high

Feels good and shit there goes my icoin.
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>>121392635

It is, +119 damage on every attack. Though I went sword C2 so I don't know if it's good on C1 because of the less hits.

What's your build?
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Does anyone want to kill stuff with me on Mage Tower 5F? I got nothing better to do.
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>>121393007
who cares about demons
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>>121393515
Just move away a bit when it says ice pillar.
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>>121393276
Alright I'll do that, thanks.

>>121393279
It's okay, I have 30
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What's faster?
Grinding from 76 to 4th class in the grind zones
or
Starting over
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>>121393668
>who cares about most of the enemies in the game

xd
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>>121393514
Because they took reactionary measures for the high population in those areas and failed to account for the fact that they would eventually leave.
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>>121393409
who cares bout smite when you're focused on PvP? I'll take Revival & Stone Skin any day. Shield+Stone Skin in PvP means all swordsman classes are moot.
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around what level is 6th class?
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>>121393049
Fucking hell, I assumed it was multiplied by the atttack power and added on
This game's damage calculations are retarded as hell
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>>121393550
>Too many quests.
>Not enough quests for our exp rates.

Fucking gooks.
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>>121393684
yeah you see

I get frozen before any of them say ice pike
in fact nothing ever happens when they use it if I move or don't

but sometimes their auto attacks freeze me

it is dumb and they are dumb
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>>121393709
my auto attack takes care of enemies in the demon prison just fine without smite though. i mean paladin is cool and all but its not because of smite, it's because of their amazing c2 skills.
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NEW THREAD WHEN?
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Just did my first day of Grind Prison.

Didn't get invited 'cos I was 143 instantly.

Eventually got a group who gave no shits.

Leveled to 145 in no time. Still hanging onto my 100 lvl 7 cards and 20 lvl 8 cards.

Got to 146 just now.

This place is fucking hell.

It's as braindead as can be.

One thing I did notice though was that if I go solo and kill just as I always do I actually see change in my XP bar while as in group it feels like nothing at all.

Shame the Health Potions are as shitty as they are or I would just fucking solo this place all day. Here's hoping if I dumb all my cash and time into Leather Attributes I can start soloing it tomorrow.

Good night you fucktards.
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>>121393550
>"there are too many quests"
>remove quest markers
what the fuck are these people smoking
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how much EXP does the lvl 90 dungeon give to a fresh 90?
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Is c1 squire worth taking, or is it shit without c2.
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>>121394172
1 run = lvl 93
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>>121394172
I saw a level 92 go to 94 in one full clear.
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>>121394119
Ignorance is bliss.
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>>121394119
Yep.

What's funny is that they even boosted the EXP Card values during the first week of kCBT3, this was the first instance that they removed Sidequest Icons.

They mentioned the removal in the CBT3 Trailer.
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>>121394008
>amazing c2 skills

have you even touched a paladin
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>>121394268
dayum son. i gotta get in that. just hit 91 tho
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>>121394172
if you solo it you will go to level 96 in one run
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>>121394172
2 levels worth.
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>>121394059
>map literally has prison in its name
>you spent a lot of time there before u can get the fuck out
Was this naming intended... thanks IMC...
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I hit monk yesterday but stopped playing right after so I haven't done anything intensive with it yet, just one shot some mobs.
How quickly does stamina regen in battle or do I need to rely on consumables to make liberal use of double punch?
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COULD THAT FUCKING FAGGOT IN HIS FUCKING 140'S STOP FUCKING SPAMMING MEMES AND TALKING LIKE AN ATTENTION WHORE IN CHATS ALL THE TIME AND USING FUCKING MEME ARROWS IN GAME STOP?!

YOU AREN'T FUCKING FUNNY

YOU'RE A CRINGEWORTHY LITTLE SHIT OF A FAGGOT WHO NEEDS TO KILL HIMSELF. TAKE YOUR FUCKING LEDDIT TIER FAGGOTRY ELSEWHERE.
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>>121394119
A quest with no marker doesn't trigger autism as much if you just ignore it, so it's k
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>>121394353
how hard is it to solo at 90?
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>>121394469
but why the fuck would you ignore quests ever?
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How to fix this game.

1. Lower quest exp.
2. Add more zones at all levels to fill in the gaps with their own quests (doing these would give same quest exp as we get now).
3. Either nerf some of the retarded mobs, or drastically increase the exp they give.
4. More instance dungeons.
5. More channels.
6. Increase mob density in some of the zones with no mob density at all.

Damn, that was hard.
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>>121393142
What the fuck were you thinking here?
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>>121394460
gb2leddit and kill yourself pls
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>>121394353
That's 1m exp per run
But how do you survive alone?
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>>121394550
B-B-B-B-B-B-BUT THAT MAKES IT CASUAL
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>>121394550

> lower quest exp

literally retarded
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>>121394460
Do you mean the please nobully guy? Yeah he's an annoying fucking faggot, what is wrong with you people who spout 4chan memes in games for no reason?
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fuck this, I'm done, I'm so done with this spider crap, fuck you spiders
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One thing, do people know there's '2nd Demon Prison'? It's at the north of Shaton Reservoir.

This is for Level 163, and it's got semi-decent spawn rates (at least on KR). Might be a good alternative for a party if Demon Prison F2 is overcrowded.

The Yognomes are decent, but the Trees are kind of tough solo.
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>>121394526
Because you feel like there are too many quests
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>>121394408
get the pots that increase your maximum stamina
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>>121394460
>>121394635
Just block him, I did that day 1
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>>121394526
They have higher rates than ours and they also got exp events. They had the luxury of ignoring any quests that weren't main story.
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>>121393007
This anon is right
>>121393301
>muh monk only spam double punch
do you even play the class?

you can't do shit when you run out of stamina anon, which happen a lot in a room packed with mobs like grind prison, smite is there to help you with the downtime
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>almost 1k posts
>page 10
>>no new thread

guys
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Will we be able to reset our skills on release? Obviously not classes, but skills?
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>>121394625

Read point 2.

Lower individual quest exp, but add more zones with their own quests.

The problem at the moment isn't quest exp you get. It's the amount of zones in the game and the amount of viable zones the game has.

Most zones are 3 levels apart. This means at higher levels, you do a zone and either grind 3 levels to do the next one, or use the exp cards and then grind 2 levels to get to the next one.

What I'm proposing is you do a zone, then either grind a level to get to the next one, or use exp cards and grind a bit to get to the next one. Essentially you spend less time in a zone but the time to level up is still the same overall. This would also add more levelling areas to the game.
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>>121394764
no, blessing+sacrament auto attack is there to help you with your downtime
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>>121392956
ele3 for damage
alche for phun.
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>>121394792
You will lose your char on release senpai
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>>121394792
Of course you can, good goy.
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>>121393142
Why do you even care you're obviously low level and the stats reset scroll only costs 5 icoin which is the amount you get every day
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>starving demons way
>everything aggros you from halfway across the map
>everything does ranged magic attacks that you cannot dodge or do anything about
>am a 4k hp wizard and die constantly there
WHO THE FUCK DESIGNED THIS PLACE
THE ENEMIES HAVING SUPER LOW HP DOES NOT JUSTIFY THIS, I LITERALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT WHEN REFLECT SHIELD GOES DOWN.
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>>121394792
I'll be dumbfounded if they don't have skill resets in the cash shop.

Also worried because if they don't sell those, they'd jew some other part of the game thrice as hard to make up for it.
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>>121394521
>>121394603
do not try unless you play BRbarian for retard tier damage, im sure there's some other classes that can but it takes way longer.
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>>121394792
If they're generous, they'll give everyone one skill and stat reset scroll.
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whats the best/cheapest recipe for getting white hair?
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>>121383228
It takes 3 seconds to do, do it yourself.
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>>121392956
Pick sorcerer and rename yourself into queen of sluts. Actually I think ALL mages must pick sorcerer harlots so that barblords can see some eyecandy when giving party to those supportsluts out of pity
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>>121395039
Florr
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>>121394923
I know, but I wasn't sure if skill resets are beta only or anything.
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>>121394635
There's more like him in the game. Literally walk up to a /tosg/ meet up and this one guy starts using > meme arrows. I'm Barbarian so his literal first response to me ever, and I've never met the guy was

>memelander
>cancer has appeared

All I said was "hi anons". Rest were pretty cool though there was one player who literally couldn't shut up and yammered on the whole dungeon run.
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>>121395039
Having white as your default hair color
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>>121394985
lol if you think that map is bad

it just gets worse from there
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>>121395171
There's ALWAYS that one autist. Oh well. I don't have very good experiences playing with /vg/ in general.
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>>121395147
where do i get that
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New thread

>>121395258
>>121395258
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Is there really no other viable class other than Barb3 if you're planning on Fencer?
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>>121394908
if you wanna do less damage during your downtime sure
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>>121395171
>/tosg/ meeting
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>>121395039
Crystal Spiders. Took like an hour or so. Kill the mages there to for the Ponetia two-handed craft.
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>>121395259
Why. I'm literally considering taking 20 points out of INT and putting them in CON so I can actually survive, but it's just so stupid having unavoidable projectile attacks on enemies who spawn in large groups and mass aggro you. What the FUCK.
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>>121395289
Fedimian
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>>121392654
>>121393515
>not stacking mdef
>not partying with mage
get keked
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>>121394385
>prison
>mausoleum
>chapel
IMC is trying to telling us something, I just can't put my finger on it.
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>>121397745
>>121397745
>>121397745
>>121397745
MIGRATE
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is steparu's corsair build any good? here it is for reference: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/yst6h8o4h8/
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>>121397837
autism
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>>121384710
There was one in the first five minutes I played, then it vanished.
Nice.
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