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>>121300184
Yeah just found an article on it from google. Seems that the info was released between Crown of the Old Iron King and Crown of the Ivory king. I'd assume the rates have gone up significantly as people have learned the fights. I'm kind of surprised to see Sinh on there, maybe it was just my setup but he went down fast with minimum fuss the first time I fought him blind in NG.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/09/the-final-word-on-dark-souls-2s-toughest-boss

>>121300458
I'm ok with removing it, OP. Seeing as we already know far more than the leak entailed.
OP could do with a little bit of a clean up anyway.

dark souls 3 is gonna be shit
quote me and screenshot this

>>121300458
I love that gif. It's so fitting that a blue is being kicked around like a nerd.

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>red phantom alt+f4-ed to avoid dying
why would anyone do this?

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>>121301487

>>121301683
because they saw you in full havels

When is Demon's souls going to be on ps4

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is co-op dead on sotfs or something

was I too late on getting this game

should I just ce my loyce souls

>>121302292
>should I just ce my loyce souls
Yes.
Screw farming for those things.

>>121301830
oh ha ha

Seriously though, they were in a parry riposte animation and then just alt-f4ed. I dont get it.

>>121302929
Rage-quitting in a childish attempt at preventing you from getting your sweet riposte.

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I have an itch to go back and finish DaS1, but I have a few questions.

-For physique, is it alright to go large lower body, or does it really fuck with armor to go anything but average?

-If I want to make a cleric-style character, is it better overall to start with the actual cleric class, or go deprived and just level myself towards becoming a cleric?

Any other general tips that could prove of use?

>>121301487
they were fun when you could kill them with the crystal ring shield

>>121302929
How can one differentiate between a player intentionally Alt+F4'ing and something like their power going out or internet connection dying?

>>121303034
large body type makes most armors look like a burrito
cleric/knight

>fight against a high level character
>it goes well, no one being cheap
>I start to win
>he circles around for the free backstab

I guess I just have to git gud

>>121303097
The disconnect message changes depending on method of disconnect.

Alt+F4 is "Separated from...."
While connection failure is "Lost sight of...."

Is there a reason I can' log in to DaS2 servers on PS4

>pvping for awhile
>every match is someone parry fishing
>cant ever backstab them but they're always able to backstab me to the point of my teleporting back to them
>cant use any fun weapons
>just decide to roll with 2h a UGS and gowers ring/jester top
>winning but not having fun because I want to do powerstance poison rapiers or bleed twinblade and fun stuff

Oh well

dark souls 3 when

>>121302292
What's your SM?
Activity in the dlc areas varies wildly by SM bracket. Most of my DLC area invasion characters can't co-op there at all, but I find plenty of activity on some of my other, higher SM characters.

>>121303191
Its simple, you just need to exist in two different states of facing towards him and away from him at the same time.

>>121303231
Hmm; never knew that. Thanks, anon.

>>121303305
It's at 2m right now

Probably too low, since my SM was more than twice that in the original game when I was at that point

>>121303661
Yeah, for the most part the only people you'll catch for co-op at 2mil are people that are just rushing through the game on their nth playthrough or unironically making a pvp build without CE.

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Why am i obsessed with the sun?

Every game i play i try to represent the covenant.

I just want to do sun things and kill things with solar damage. I even played a shitty game like destiny once and used nothing but heart of the praxic fire.

Help. For a person like me who likes the sun so much, i never actually go outside and see the real thing. I just want to help people and do sun things.

>>121306823
i think you need some jesus in your life

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>finally get around to starting my first run through DaS1 after beating the other installments countless times, pretty high standards going in
>everything going great, all expectations definitely being exceeded
>wonder what problems anyone could have with the game or more specifically the player base
>get to the burg/parish and ass raped about every five minutes by twinks with late game gear, lightning weapons, lag, ohko back stabs, and "LOL U MAD U MAD BRO XD!?!?" messages galore
Okay then.

>>121307312
it's a popular dueling spot, just go offline if you don't know it

>>121307312
you got fucking rekt m8
lmaoing @ ur gear rite now desu

>>121303034
it's better go slim, or normal if you are going to use ultra heavy armor; if you are going cleric armor go very slim

>>121307312
play hollow?

>>121307312
You can't beat the post-twink "Welcome to Dark Souls" message

What are some decent weapons in DaS that don't require much stat investment?

>>121307312
why are you restoring your humanity every time

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>>121308946
>>121307898
>playing through dark souls as a hollow

>>121308820
mace, short/longsword, astora straight sword in the start/catacumbs.

>>121308820
claymore
balder side sword
longsword
reinforced club

>>121309502
>waaah i keep getting invaded
>haha scrubs i GOTTA be human
>waaaaaaaaaah i keep dyiiiiiiiiing

>>121309671
kek

>>121309671
>implying I've ever complained about invasions or humanity
If I get invaded close to the next bonfire I just Alt+F4 out of there.

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>>121309912
>you are being invaded
>uuh i am so scared
>alt f4 and open the game again

AHAHAHA

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>>121309912
You best be trolling. I hate PVP and did my very best to avoid it at almost all costs, but even I never resorted to that.

>>121310331
>salty because people don't want ganked

Face it most invaders are stronger than you.

i am SL 97 on dark souls 1
is it too late to go into faith? i have 20 points already from early level but i realy want to shoot some lightnings

>>121311034
20 points shoots lightning senpai

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>>121310549
>salty because people don't want ganked
you don't even know what being ganked means you fucking pussy

>Face it most invaders are stronger than you.
so what? that don't means you can't win, you can even kill hackers with unlimited health.

>>121311034
The only time it's too late to do something is if you're purposefully gimping yourself for the sake of PVP/co-op. If you're just going to play the PVE element of the game, go as far as ya want.

>>121311034
20 Faith will get you Lightning Spear
30 Faith will get you Great Lightning Spear
If you go to 30 now, that'll bring you to SL107, which is still fine for standard PvP
You do have to temporarily join the Sunlight covenant to get them btw

>>121310543
Lmao I get people pulling the plug on me all the time and I really don't blame them. If that's how they want to deal with twinks then let them. It's now like you get honor points or some bullshit for not doing it and I doubt they care that anonyderp on Souls general will judge them.

>>121311217
>>121311285
>>121311364
oh neat, i'm not good at pvp anyway
i just thought it might not be worth it with how much a level up costs now

>>121311260
>be new
>struggling with blighttown
>close to the second bonfire
>INVADED BY MANEATER MILDRED
>INVADED BY LICKMYNUTS52
>raped
>never play the game again

I'd rather not lose progress that I didn't deserve to lose, one thing that I like about the Souls games is the fact that they usually have pretty fair deaths. You fell off, your fault. You got hit by the boss, your fault. You get invaded by some dick with a chaos +5 weapon? Not your fault.

There's literally no way to tell if it will be a fair fight or he has a fully upgraded weapon.

>>121312040
WHY THE FUCK
ARE YOU IN HUMAN FORM
IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET INVADED
LITERALLY FUCKING WHAT

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>>121312040
mildred is a ultra weak npc and drop 5 humanity+weapon and offers summon in the next boss

git gud
i bet you play ds2

>>121312264
hey thats a cool gif
where is it from?

>>121312040
>be me
>not be a retard
>realize i haven't progressed enough and don't have the appropriate gear to fight with those who might be ahead
>go hollow or offline mode
>proceeding to upgrade weapons and find better gear
>go back online or human

but no, keep on getting ganked

>>121312186
I agree with this guy for the most part. I can't stand these games' PVP so I did the thing the game's developers made so and just stayed hollow. The few times that I did encounter invaders, it was pretty much just them teleporting around due to shitty connections and killing me so fuck it.

>>121312040
You ventured through Blighttown in human form before killing Quelaag
Let's go through that one more time
You went through an area in human form before killing the boss
Once more, with passion
You went through a new area without knowing what you're doing, in human form
y o u r
f a u l t

>Not look like a sausage
>Revive to human form at a Bonfire
>Kindle a Bonfire
>Added to the summation of stat points when determining all defenses. Therefore, more Humanity directly equals more defense (99 humanity will give you approximately 50 more defense in all categories)
>Increases damage with weapons with Humanity scaling (i.e. Weapons in Chaos upgrade path, Chaos Blade, Quelaag's Furysword, and Abyss Greatsword)
>Increase Item Discovery
>Increase Curse Resist

Downside:
>invasions

hmmmmmmmmmmm i wonder

>>121312264
>>121312393
it was hypothetical shitlords but it could happen
also
>be new
I guess new players should read guides

>>121312550
>all those rewards
>"wow why is there a risk!"

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Did I ever mention DeS style lighting I think is still in the game?

>>121312550
soft humanity is active in hollow form
the defense and resistance gains, Chaos scaling, and Item Discovery have nothing to do with the "reverse hollowing" command
you have no idea what you're talking about

>>121312550
Nice copy/past from the Wiki. It's important to note that all the stat bonuses (weapon scaling, item discover, curse resist, etc.) take place just by having soft humanity in the upper-left counter. You do NOT need to be in human form for those to work. So the first item is purely cosmetic and the kindling can be done, then intentionally killing yourself so you have all those extra Estus while maintaining hollow's invasion-free status.

>>121313119
>>121312813
>>121312543
>just kill yourself after lighting a bonfire
no I want to play the character I made not a dried jerky version

>>121312330
pokemon season 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe5XD9Hyoj0


>>121312550
>>Not look like a sausage
use armor
>>Kindle a Bonfire
never did on my first time i didn't knew it were a thing
>>Added to the summation of stat points when determining all defenses. Therefore, more Humanity directly equals more defense (99 humanity will give you approximately 50 more defense in all categories)
you are actually losing humanity by becoming in human form you faget

>it was hypothetical shitlords but it could happen
also
>be new
I guess new players should read guides


You need to read a guide to understand that you can't be invaded if you aren't in human form? it's your fault if you don't want to look like sausage not the game's fault

Can I leave before fighting black phantom Garl Vinalnd? I don't want to fuck up my world tendency and be unable to return the crest to what's-her-face.

>>121313253
Bully for you, nigger. You make that utterly visual decision that has no bearing on the game, and you take the consequences that come with it.

>>121313253
OFFLINE MODE

>>121313253
>no I want to play the character I made not a dried jerky version
kill the invaders

>>121313336
he only respawns if you leave after killing him. also he killed me a lot of times and he was still there, niga was 1 shotting me.

>>121313364
take the consequences of my Alt+F4
>>121313383
I want other player summons

>>121313421
His body form went down like a bitch to 3 ripostes with a crushing great axe+3 with black turpentine, but I've heard the legends of his black phantom form.

>>121313509
I don't care about your Alt+F4, friendo. I hate PVP in these games. We're addressing your complaints about getting invaded because you don't like to play as Lordran's favorite Slim Jim warrior.

>>121313509
>i want the benefit of summons without the risk of invasions
you're a child

>>121313647
yes, it took me like 10 minutes to kill him, i had to make him get plague with baby's nail like 5 times and waited his death
the brandt gives him resistance to plague, so it takes a lot of time for him to die

>>121313702
it's "your", kid
>>121313671
I actually enjoy getting invaded when I'm not far from the bonfire, I like the PvP, I just don't care for being fucked up by someone who wasn't me.

>>121313509
>I want other player summons
go back to ds2 kid, you are right in not playing das1.

>>121313991
Oh gosh someone on the internet doesn't like my opinion

>>121314517
i literally said that you are right in quitting ds1

>>121314517
Don't worry, it's just butthurt autists that can't keep up in p v p, but they'II never get their way and there's nothing they can do to keep us from posting whatever we want :^)

>>121314802
Where did I say that I quit DaS
>>121314840
stand strong brother

>>121313848
I assume I can try as many times as I need?

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Is the Souls fanbase the most cancerous fanbase of all?

>>121315351
Assfaggots my dear dumb frog poster sempai.

>>121315351
A very loud 30% of it is yes

>>121315631
No. [Any MMO Community] is much worse.

>>121314998
as i said i died a lot of times until i did that getting one hit, or dying by the dead babies.

>>121312901
Whoa, how do you turn it on?

>>121315862
Any MMO, any MOBA. Pretty much any online game available right now is at very least as bad as the souls fanbase, and an overwhelming majority are worse by several orders of magnitude.

We're pretty lucky, all things considered, that the worst we deal with is a few stale memes recycled ad nauseum and some 'literally who'-tier irrelevant streamers.

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>>121316736
Shit communities for shit games

>>121316234
Sheeit, I got him on the first try with 4 black turps, a shitload of grass, and the same parrying strategy. Step up, senpai.

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>tfw your wife is literally the embodiment of evil

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>>121316731
The highlighted option here.
It has some weird lighting interactions in some places, like Oolacile having this red tint and some objects being weirdly bright like the pillars in the OnS screenshot.

I'm not entirely sure it's the DeS lighting, but that was my impression when I saw it.

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>>121317625
And?

>>121317649
In this screenshot, It looks almost the same as the normal lightning except the red tint.

>>121317649
Hey, thanks man. I appreciate it! That'll be fun to mess with.

>>121317918
But Alsanna was waifu material

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>>121317967
It's weird sometimes.

What Strength would I need to only two-hand Smough's hammer? The 58STR requirement is fucked up.

>>121317981
that was far funnier than it had any right to be

>>121318372
Footnotes
1. when two handing this weapon, only 39 Strength is required

>>121318372
39

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>>121318051
There's all sorts of neat things you can do with it.
Set it to Ghost, then change your Chr type, you can apply the phantom effect to the entire world.

If you want it to be a gold or blue phantom, change your covenant type, then change to that Chr type.

Does the weapon that you use to create a boss weapon make a difference?

Like if I used a mace vs a reinforced club to make smough's hammer

>>121318998
Woah. Can I see that in Anor Londo please, dearest anon.

>>121316736
To be fair, the cancer part of the community isn't on /dsg/. The cancer being autistic lorefags and meme pvpfags.

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>>121317981

>>121319140
Just matters which one you wanna sacrifice for the process. It has no bearing on stats

>>121318998
BLOWOUT SOON

>>121317649
Newfag here. What is this program exactly?

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>>121318470
>>121319310
thanks i made it

>>121318998
I remember a while back somebody did the same thing to Lost Izalith.

Man, the idea of getting invaded by an entire area of the game just seems amazing.

>>121317918
The Ivory King: the only king in these games to actually try and get shit done.

>>121319570
I have no idea how that would work in a Souls game, but I'd love that as a mechanic as long as it wasn't shitty like the Rat covenant

>>121317625
Said every husband ever

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>>121319209
It works poorly with trees.

>>121319408
When they moved Dark Souls from GFWL to Steamworks, they accidentally patched in the developer debug assets. They patched it out after about half an hour, but the damage was done.

>>121319570
Yeah, I did that. I hadn't figured out back then why sometimes it used the white phantom effect and sometimes the black phantom, but it turns out it just uses the most recent phantom effect that's been loaded on a player or NPC. Basically, it was Kirk's fault.

>>121319727
I imagine it'd be some kind of triggered event, like you interact with some object or talk to some NPC and break the seal on some empyrean realm of horrors, than now invades you randomly, superimposing itself over the area you were previously in and drawing you into this labyrinthine red phantom city.

Imagine if every player (or at least up to 6) invaded by it appeared all within the same client simultaneously, and their shared objective in order to escape was to either slay another player or kill the boss at the end, which would release every player and cleanse the blight from your world for that playthrough. The twist? There's no bossfog, and all of the players currently in the world can enter the bossroom to kill you.

For added fun, I'd throw in a temple guardian covenant, who get summoned into this red phantom world when it invades a group of players with the goal of aiding the stage in killing them all and protecting the boss (their covenant leader)

>>121320347
>They patched it out after about half an hour, but the damage was done.
So it's impossible for new people to have access to it?

>>121320509
Shit, Shit. That sounds like it could be fucking wonderful.

>>121317981
i dun geddit

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>>121320347
always late to the party anon

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>>121320516
Not at all.
Download the file below, rename it DARKSOULS.exe and replace the DARKSOULS.exe in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Dark Souls Prepare to Die Edition\DATA with it.

https://mega.nz/#!bgAEQYrR!TCNIxH3edZin4SxGdMh6a-_l88ResVQUs6kFHDjAOyI

>>121318998
>>121320347
>>121320919
This feels like it would cause headaches if you played with the game like this

>>121320919
Thanks. Gonna try to do a full playthrough with this lighting.

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>>121320787
Nah, I've known about this for a long time.

>love the feel of str weapons
>hate slow attack speed
dex is all that's left for me i guess

>>121321493
>love the feel of slow attack speed
>hate slow attack speed
I do not understand.

>>121321613
no anon. i love the feel of impact, the feel of a tremendous force behind each blow.

>>121321119
>enemy swapping

i wonder why venom was so reluctant to tell people how to do that. you can't hurt other ppls game with it, i didnt see a problem with making it common knowledge

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Smough is a pretty big guy

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>>121321046
>>121321075
What's even better is there's an entry in the MTD MAN menu for the phantom color overlay, Ps_Ghost_Param_Black, that you can use to customize it.

>>121321753
first person mod is still not avaiable kek
because CE is ''a malicious program''

>>121321965
>Dark Souls: Prepare to Indie Game

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>>121321754
>Smough
>Fireball

>>121321754
I may have made myself too powerful
taurus was a one shot

>>121322067
because first person in dark souls 1 sucks 10000 dicks

first person in dark souls 2 tho actually works pretty well

>>121321965
Uh do you need a controller to navigate the debug menu? I'm stuck at the first menu and no button seems to work except moving up and down with the mouse.

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>And Seath the scaleless betrayed his own. And the dragons were no more.
>*bloodcurdling roar*

>>121322290
still would play with it :C
and it can be fixed
probably

>>121322371
of course

>>121321753
Trade secret, maybe?

>>121322371
Yes, you do.
I don't know if there are any programs for emulating controller input, but that might be worth looking into.

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>>121322490
>[choir intensifies]

>>121322173
it's the madworld edition

>got past the Anor Londo archers 1st attempt at SL1
i'm genuinely surprised

>Decide to do new playthrough of SotfS on new PSN account
>make it all the way to Iron Keep before dying
and here I was thinking I was gonna have a 0 death playthrough

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>>121322173
What if we made it so everything was dark as hell and we called it Darkest Souls and I got stuck on some railing for like five minutes trying to get here?

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I miss her

>>121323368
At least you'll always have the memories.

Same can't be said for her though.

>>121321718
>no anon. i love the feel of impact, the feel of a tremendous force behind each blow.

The slow attack speed is important in giving that feeling.

>>121323552
you didn't watch dragonball did you?

>>121323017
On that note, is the free Occult Club of any use on an SL1 run?

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>>121323368
>skin around eye is hollow
>eye and rest of the face is alive
>dark souls 2 ''hollowing''

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>>121322649
you edit one single value. it annoys me how cheat engine users like to pretend their hacks are more complicated/sophisticated than they really are and must never be shared with filthy outsiders

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>>121323639

>>121323713
looks like it's not
Occult is effective on silver knights but my Battle Axe +10 is dealing more damage per backstab on them

>>121323639
The feeling of impact in the Dark Souls animations is produced by simulating weight, which comes from the wind up and recovery animations as well as the way hits chain together.

It just makes a weapon blow look and feel heavier to have the character appear to have a bit of difficulty hefting the weapon. You'll notice the same animation techniques used in Monster Hunter for the heavy weapons.

I've used Cheat Engine to create myself as a being made entirely of water and must defend the Pond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVxyzVY_ArE

>>121323861
Please fuck off with that anon. This thread's been going pretty good right now and it doesn't need you acting like an elitist neckbeard.

bandit greataxe's range is ridiculous, it's even shorter than most normal axes

>>121324017
Wow they went a little overboard moving enemies around in SotFS didn't they?

>>121324017
I'm not saying it's laudable, but it makes sense from the standpoint of someone with a YouTube channel trying to corner a market on showing off unused content.

Not everyone is entirely altruistic all the time.

>>121324243
>please don't trigger me in my safespace

>>121324228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV-oPFf5SSE&ab_channel=OneLifeLP

Nice stealing of ideas anon

>>121324228
That's an invisible body with a Murakumo that applies Flash Sweat, isn't it?

>>121324338
Shitpost harder senpai~! My keys are responding on their own!

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>>121324243
it was going pretty good because this thread is almost only talking about das1 and des

>>121323861
Is it ever stated that hollowing must be equally distributed all over the body? I don't see what's wrong with parts or limbs hollowing/rotting before others.

>>121324228
>>121324468
Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16N-JIQ3GpE

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>>121324468
>stealing ideas
>literally never seen this video before

>>121324619
and it need to be? the curse is not on the body, this is not a disease, your body degrades as your mental health degrades too.
Also theres that full hollow blacksmith in das2 that seems fine, different than the undead merchant from das1 that are clearly going insane.

But it's useless to talk about this, das2 director didn't knew what he was doing, so whatever

i found this gril and i thought it was so forced that at first she was all like ''hum stay away faget'' and when you talk with her again she acts super nice with you like if you were her best friend ever.

>>121324902
his video is still way better than yours tho

Anyone wanna help me fight Kalameet?
SL 96, PC

>>121324468
Does this only happen on your screen, or is this something you've applied so others can see it as well?

>>121325249
ok

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>>121324902

>>121325470
im not the creator of that vid but if memory serves phantom color isn't client-side. you can set yourself to appear as a partially vanished ghost and cast flash sweat to achieve this effect

>>121323297
>those eyes

Spooky.

>>121324053
drop it to divine and use it for catacombs

>>121325254
Pls. Im at fog door

>>121326707
Did you get Gough to shoot him for ya?

>fighting hydra
>randomly get shot by a lightning bolt
>turn around
>it's a fucking vagrant
>get smashed by hydra
>die

these things seem to show up at the worst times. the last time I saw one, it was blocking my path at anor londo archers.

>>121328087
just the sheer amount of rng involved in that happening to you. goddamn.

Hosting invades darkroot garden PC lvl 125

>>121328087
>fighting taurus
>decide to leave the archers alive to make the fight more interesting
>bolts are flying past me as I'm dodging taurus' attacks
>suddenly homing soulmass
>a crab is helping the archers
>you have died

>>121324468
that's dope as fuck.

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Help me out here guise

Where do I take my build from here? I'm able to swap the Gravelord Sword out for a Chaos Zwei to mix things up a little. I don't want to invest any/many more points into STR/DEX and don't really want to vitgouge, more attunement maybe? I've done quality builds before, but this one has me stumped.

Guide me, /dsg/.

>>121328087
I've still never seen a vagrant ;_;

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>>121322067
>>121322290
>>121322529
Between the LockCamParam and ChrFollowCam, someone could probably make a much better first person script.

One of the first things I'm noticing is that setting the Cam distance at about 0.5, then adjusting the chase rate so the camera doesn't do that thing where it falls behind the player as they're running makes for much smoother controls.

Trying to figure out how to prevent it from pulling up/down when you go up/down stairs though.

>>121328087

Huh, first one I saw was at Anor Londo too, although he was standing right in front of the right archer, and stomped my shit when I found out they could attack.

I didn't know what they were called or even how to start searching for them online so I spooked myself out for a bit by thinking I was the only one it had happened to.

>>121330079
Just play dark messiah or something, the first person novelty will wear off in like 30 minutes

>>121327898
He obviously did if there's a fog door

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smell my axe

>>121331212
Oh yeah I forgot about that.

>>121331469
he just wants to love you

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>haven't even fought Quelaag yet but going down the Great Hollow
>get cursed
>didn't buy a stone from Oswal because who the fuck gets cursed these days
Apparently me. Now I'm just sitting at the GH bonfire contemplating deletion.

>>121331961
Could be worse
You could've tried to farm the clams and gotten all your equipment broken
And then died to a Vagrant right as you were about to reach the bonfire

Both of these happened to me

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Are these texture issues an inherent issue when you up the resolution in DSfix, or am I doing something wrong?

>>121331961
pick up the Cracked Red Eye Orb chest from beneath the parish elevator in Firelink
trade one of them with Snuggly for two Purging Stones

>>121330431
Nah, I was having more fun playing with the camera controls than I was actually playing in first person. That's why I said "someone could" make the script, because I don't really care enough to do it either.

Blue Smelter is literal cancer

Variable attack speed and humongous auto tracking is literally the worst idea

>>121332316
>occult uchigatana
Might as well make it Raw if you want yourself to suffer that much.

>>121332450
>Variable attack speed
Never play bloodborne, that's 90% of the difficulty and every enemy is designed to catch rolls
The other 10% is horrible gangrape that makes DaS2 look like a baby's rattler

Tracking isn't an issue though

>>121332450
Stop rolling early fagit

>>121332474
It's a novelty thing
I also have a Divine Iaito and a Normal Washing Pole on that character

>>121332474
It deals better crit damage and does more damage to bosses.

>>121332578
You forgot ambushes that you can't possibly know about until you die the first time to it because they're more imbalanced and poorly thought out than DaS2

Or how every boss has a move pretty much guaranteed to instagib

>>121333080
The ambushes aren't a big deal unless they're part of that horrible gangrape bit.
Most of the ambushes in the game are just some shitty trash mobs that can't possibly kill you, and it's just one of them.

I actually like that some of them have instagibs. It makes them as dangerous as they look.
And if you get hit by them, you probably deserved it.
Only exception is defiled loran bloodletting beast's grab. Fuck that shit.

>>121333080
>ambushes that you can't possibly know about

Someone misunderstood what they meant by "fast-paced."

Pro-tip: Don't run in unfamiliar areas.

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Dark souls is a serious game with dark themes

>>121333987
Guy Fieri was taking Demon of Song to FLAVORTOWN is all

>>121333987
That's one of the two cool bosses in the entire game.

The other being The Chariot

>Download DS2 SOTFS a few weeks ago
>Been having a lot of fun
>Start it up today
>Sits on a black screen when I pick continue
>Alt tab and have to close the process because it's crashed
>Look up the problem
>See some stupid bullshit about the intro movie and changing the file to txt while keeping the original
>Still doesn't work
>Uninstall the fucking game and reinstall
>Still doesn't work
Does anyone know how to fix this fucking shit? I've literally done nothing and it just decided to stop working. I'm getting seriously fucking pissed.

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>>121333987
that puts the shama lama in ding dong desu senpai

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>>121303231

>tfw my modem power button is always within arms length.

>>121334450
I was about to argue this, then I realized most of, if not all of, my favorite bosses/boss fights are the dlc. Huh. I liked Glass knight I guess

>fighting the undead dragon in the painted world
>fall off the ledge trying to attack its foot
>land on a sliver of wall trimming
>roll to safety onto the final bridge to Priscilla
>door to the bridge is still locked, can't be interacted with from the other side
I had to leave via Priscilla's room and come back
better than dying or getting stuck, I guess

>>121335014
Velstadt and Smelter were also bretty good IMO.

>>121335952
Velstadt's character and such was good but the fight itself pretty eh. Smelter was good.

>>121335014
Prepatch Lost Sinner with the lights off was actually pretty good.

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Just playing dark souls for the first time. How do people even find shit like this place, behind like two secret walls and a chest? I'm sure online probably helps after one guy finds it, but still. What was that one guy even doing. There isn't even anything worthwhile at the bottom, just a spooky lake and some clam people.

>>121337238
One of the infinite monkeys stumble on it by accident and it spreads from there.

>>121337238
The dragon covenent you idiot

Does using the trainer to fuck around with builds get you soft banned or is there no way for them to detect that since it's all pretty much CE?

>>121337572
The covenants are pretty worthless, unless you're playing online.

>>121337238
>There isn't even anything worthwhile at the bottom
The Great Hollow contains the Cloranthy Ring and 10 Crystal Lizards.
Siegmeyer's story ends at the Ash Lake bonfire if you've done all of his other events correctly. This gets you a Titanite Slab.
Great Magic Barrier is in the middle of the area.
There's a covenant leader at the end of the area. You can cut his tail for the Dragon Greatsword even if you're not interested in its covenant. It won't go hostile so it's basically free.

>>121337660
depends what game ur playin family

>>121337793
Dark Souls 2 SOTFS senpai desu

>>121337713
Most of everything else is worthless as well if you're just sticking with your one favorite weapon and armor the whole way through.

Besides that, one of the side quests end there with a pretty good reward.

>>121337238
>complaining about one of the best visually aesthetic areas in the game
are you running dsfix?
>>121334931
I just alt f4

>>121337238
>>121337713
Hey there>>121337718

>>121337238
Didn't find it on my first playthrough, heard about it on my second and went there first thing.

>>121338437
not to mention how much stuff Great Hollow has on the way there if you bother to catch them all

>>121338151
DSfix will only increase the game's resolution. It still looks like garbage even for the time, don't delude yourself.

>>121338750
Textures are mediocre but the design of everything is still great. Ash Lake especially is chilling when the first time come across it

I hate how Iron Keep has so many fucking Allone Knights in the area surrounding Smelter's boss fog. Improve enemy placements my ass.

>>121324228
>spooky

>>121339519
I always grind them out before going for the boss

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fite me pls lvl 120

>>121338750
>>121338904
this, we do what we can with what we have, graphics get better in time but there is still reason to appreciate it for what it is

>>121339887
are you Kenan Thompson

So I'm on an SL1 playthrough and decided instead of the normal approach to get the master key and find out just how much I can explore before even fighting a boss.

It seems, and correct me if I'm wrong, from the start of the game these are all the bosses that can be your "first" boss.

>taurus
>gargoyles
>moonlight butterfly
>pinwheel
>capra demon (can either use the skip in undead burg or skip burg, go to church, pick up basement key)
>Sif
>quelagg
>stray asylum demon

8 Whole bosses (if you count hellkite and both hydras, then it's 11). Kind of cool to think about. The level design in DaS might be a bit more lackluster than DeS, but the world design is too fucking great.

>>121340009
nope

>>121340081
I agree with you there, and I think das2 improved level design in some aspects but botched the world design. Most people just disagree with it entirely but I think there are some great and unique atmospheres in das2

>>121340081
How would you skip taurus?

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So I got this up and running.
How long of hitting a wall does it take to break santier's spear?

>>121340250
Masterkey to havel
Open door to darkroot

Go under firelink
New londo
Go up the other room
Master key open gate to valley of drakes*
Run past drakes
take elevator to darkroot

*Or
Go straight to quelagg/ash lake

Once at darkroot you can run to andre and continue your adventure from there.

>>121340391
i think you can find the info on a wiki but not that long

>>121340391
Go to Rhoy's Rest bonfire in Amana, unequip all gear except for spear and stand by the acid cloud spitting mushroom, or go to Aldia's keep and do the same but in the acid pool with the dogs in it

dunno how fast that ticks but it's pretty rapid durability depletion

>>121340451
Ah right, Havels door was just before the Boss.

>>121340529
Yeah, that's what I first did, but the durability didn't go down. Must have patched it.

>>121340081
Matthewmatosis covers your post pretty much verbatim in his Dark Souls video

>>121340623
fuck it's immune to acid cloud? that's shit

oh well, time to smack a wall for an hour

>>121340391
Why not just break the bitch with CE?

>>121340698
CE?

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>>121340731

>>121340993
Ah. I'm not familiar with using a cheat engine, it was more convenient for me to write seven lines and watch some cartoons in the meantime.
It about halfway done now, anyway.

if any of you is playing a childs mask halberd, that was amazing and i wish i recorded it

>>121341179
https://gist.github.com/Atvaark/f308e1d8e00e07106452#general-tables

you literally just change 1 value, drop an item in-game and pick it up

>>121340623
Did they patch the thing with hitting the wall behind Dyna and Tillo's nest with the 2h R2 where you can get several hits each time with the right spacing? That way was pretty fast the one time I broke it, but that also wasn't in SotFS so it might not work anymore.

>Playing SOTFS
>Make sm 124k twink
>Invade shitloads of people at Heides Tower and lost Bastille pretty much non-stop for about 2 days.
>Get on yesterday
>Literally can't invade a single person
>Think I'm softbanned but I can still summon people fine and see the signs fairly regularly.
Is there just legitimately no one for me to invade in those places? I'm finding that pretty fucking hard to believe since I did it for hours on end for a few days.

>>121341390
I take back what I said, you're a bitch

>>121341501
You SM got too high?

>>121341569
No, I was using the agape ring so it was staying at 124k.
It's really fucking bothering me.

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Any of you guys on PSN mind helping me with False King in DeS? He's been showing my asshole a real good time and I'd like to get past him.

>>121341501
I can't connect to das2 at all now and idky, namco says im not banned. I tried firewall exceptions and such too but no luck

Why is the reach for the handaxe so fucking dogshit? I clip people with my axe yet they take no damage so I need to be touching dicks with them. I also hate how the running attacks are slower than shit like the zweihander and are almost impossible to hit (since you need to be close as fuck, and it's insanely slow so you are going to get hit or parried before you can attack).

>>121334592
are your drivers updated?

>>121343942
Which drivers?
Graphics ones?

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Going to play King's Field, what should I expect?

>>121344201
An old game that hasn't aged well with clunky controls and unforgiving difficulty.

>>121344201
>>121344295
none of the atmosphere, storytelling, or level design that actually made Demons Souls and Dark Souls good

>>121340529
go to the healer bug in the gutter, bring warmth. 4 or 5 casts (not scrolls) should be enough

is pvp dead on ps3 or am I doing something wrong? I haven't been invaded by a player once this whole play through and now I'm not getting anything with guardian's seal at sm 2000000+

>>121344307
>unforgiving difficulty
:3

>>121342764
i have the same and worse problem with caestus. some times ill be hugging them and attacks will still miss. and the tracking is horrific too. even though it’s as light as any weapon has the right to be, you can’t turn your torso while swinging. also it’s not ultra so i cant even manual aim

>>121344624
oh and I'm playing the original release

>>121344624
>implying there are people in the way of the blue
just coop to farm tokens to get a chance to fight so that you might earn a cbeo and invade a sinner :^)

>>121343978
Probably, but as a general rule all your drivers should generally be up to date.

>>121344508
This, but actually the exact opposite. The only thing it doesn't share with souls is the gameplay itself.

>>121345720
Not if you're on Nvidia. You might actually see a decrease in performance or issues where there were none previously if you have an older card because of the shady shit they pull with slowly forcing cards to become obsolete quicker to push sales of new hardware.

>>121340451
But he said he skiped the master key.
I don't think you can meet Havel before Tauros without it.
Or am I missing something?

>>121346604
I think he forgot to add a few words in his sentences.

I think he meant he DID get the master key.

Also, you can skip Taurus without it by jumping into lower burg and continuing from there.

>>121345040
cheers that makes sense, but I can't get anyone to summons me.. I'm fucking terrible so I'll probably lose once I get an invasion/dual anyway. It's irritating you can' t do it without using a consumable.

>>121346768
>you can skip Taurus without it by jumping into lower burg and continuing from there.
Shit, I forgot.

What's the safest way to jump to lower burg? Safe in the sense that you won't get gangbanged by thiefs or dogs.

>>121347147
I don't think there is any where you won't get immediately attacked by at least one

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>>121347147
>>121347391
how many are there? i know about the one right before the fog door and the near the four bitch bum hollows

>>121346604
>>121346768
I meant to put a comma in my sentence

instead of the normal approach, to get the master key*

By normal approach i meant, just playing through the game normally as a first timer.

>>121347541
Can you still dead angle the gate?

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>>121331469
I'm angry now.

>>121347943
Why are you angry? It only took you five hours to find an invasion, that's pretty good.

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>>121348538
7sl, it takes ~5 seconds.

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>first time playing through DaS 2
>put my soupsign down at King's Gate to farm Sunlight Metals
>get summoned
>host immediately bolts into the Ruin Sentinel room
>aggros everything as I stare in disbelief from the hallway
>somehow he survives and makes it back to the bonfire
>I shrug at him, he uses black separation crystal to boot me out

So...was he really expecting me to follow him? Was he trying to grief me or something? I don't really lose anything as a phantom, so what's the point?

I don't even...

>>121349002
>started playing now
>doesn't understand how things are done
>blogpost on /dsg/ full of shit

I hope you die in a gutter

>>121349291
I hope he dies in a gulch

>>121349291
>>121349501
hoping that someone dies for an internet post he made is really evil guys...

>make a str build
>don't use str weapons
i think i fucked up when it comes to building my character

>>121349663
>be gay
>dont fuck guys
I think I fucked up my life

>>121325236
of course she'd tell you to keep the fuck away at first, I'm suprised she doesn't agro instantly since almost every other being in drangleic is out for blood. I'm thinking she turns to acting nice since she notices you're a non-hostile human, which to be honest is a rarity she'd be more than happy to indulge in..

will martyrsbrigade ever come back with das3?

>>121350523
get off it dude

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This general needs to stop being dead

Answer this:
How do you think twinking should be handled?

Personally, I think it should just be ignored. I enjoy fighting twinks, and I think it's a perfect introduction into the game.

>>121352606
people shouldnt be shitlords and twink.
simple as that.

twinking will happen no matter what game mechanics are put in place to stop it.

>>121352606
bring back SM as a hidden feature, but it only affects matchmaking up to a certain point in the story during NG, then goes back to SL-based matchmaking for the rest of the game and NG+

Alternatively, all gear/spells/items CARRIED (not equipped, to avoid people putting on noob gear until they spawn and then equipping their twink gear) on your person have a hidden threat value attached, and matchmaking is based on the total threat value a character has. You have a soft threat value based on current inventory, and a hard threat value based on certain other parameters (such as embers collected, merchants available, etc.)

>>121352606
twinking only gives minor advantage, git gud

>>121352910
>twinking will happen no matter what game mechanics are put in place to stop it.

Yeah, but there are ways to soften it, like SM. While SM may have been shit for almost everyone, it did control how hard someone could twink.

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>Playing Dark Souls 1 for the first time
>Go knight
>Make it to the undead burg
>Buying stuff from some guy
>Dat chainmail doe
>Suddenly notice I'm being invaded
>Run out to see where they are
>They're wearing a mask, no armor, and using a shield and club
>Try to fight them
>They have pyromancies and a lightning-infused crossbow or something
>Get one-shot

I guess this is the Dark Souls welcoming committee.

>>121352606
I think ignoring it is the way to go too. SM fucked up way too many things in the process of stopping twinking.

Thing is, you can always just stay hollow if you don't want to fight twinks. I've never understood the issue.

>>121353084
i think sm isnt too bad. make soapstones use sl and dont make lost souls affect sm and i think it could work in das3. controversial opinion i know but i think its a viable possibility

>>121353285
This, only souls actually spent should have counted towards total SM, souls lost in bloodstains or currently held souls should never have been counted

Is Pyromancy still worth using if I don't upgrade Int or Faith? I feel like spending points on either of those would mostly be a waste without actually using sorceries or miracles but pyromancies are cool as hell and I want to play around with them.

Gravelord Nito "first of the dead?" Does that mean he's the first one who ever died? Or is that like a translation problem?

>>121353486
Pyromancy doesn't scale with Int or Faith, and it generally synergizes pretty well with melee builds
so yes, it's plenty worthwhile

>>121353848
Shhhh
Don't think about it

>>121353848
Either that or in the hierarchy of the dead, he comes out on top.

>>121354083
But that's not what "the first of" means. "First among" maybe, but then we're talking mistranslations.

>>121353868
Probably meant in DS2 since it does scale a bit with int and fth there

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>>121353848
He just carries a lot of skeletons around, more than anyone else

>>121353285
>losing souls

>>121353848
>man I don'r want to kill no dragons this is bullshit
>i'll just sit here and burn myself alive I never asked for this soul
>goddamn now apparently I have superpowers and am the god of death
>shit i'll just go chill in a coffin, go fuck people up if you want to or something I don't really care

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Have you ever fought any fun hackers?

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"Come on Dude, Just pull it"

>>121352606
DS2 had some great ideas but then fucked them all up
>how about we have your equipment play a role in matchmaking as well as your soul level!
and then they made it count souls spent on fucking arrows and souls you haven't even used for some reason
>Hey how about we have a defense stat that is not utterly worthless
Then they fucked that up by making default rolling 1/3 as good as it was in DaS 1 and not telling anyone about it so people kept eating shit and getting mad at the game.

>>121354503
>infinite health
>fun

Amusing I'll give you that, but it doesn't look like he's letting you have any of the fun.

>>121353848
Nito is the furtive pygmy

>>121352606
I think it's fine that invasions are scary for new players, and even that they might seem unwinnable.

They are neat because they give you a little push to the boss fog, and they also encourage summoning which is good for players who like to be summoned.

They're also a good disincentive for players who want to just summon a partner that plays the game for them.

I agree, nothing really needs to be done about twinks. Leave it the way it was in Dark Souls. Allow players the satisfaction that comes with finding a creative way to kill a twink. It's really nice when you pull it off.

I honestly think the way the enemies in the catacombs were designed was completely influenced by bamco so they could market "hardest game evar!!!!!!"

Skeletons
>that can parry
>they don't die until you kill an npc that is sitting around 5-6 skeletons at a time with 2-3 skeletons attacking you along the way
>they have unlimited stamina
>they can reset their animations multiple times (think of the big knights at dragon shrine in das2)
>they can roll at you up to 5-6 times and each roll takes out 100 health (basically armor of thorns x1000)
>they can launch themselves at you at 90 mph
>they can dodge your attacks

Then you have the bone wheel skeletons
>self explanatory

Then you have the entire area being a maze, patches can kill you by flipping the bridge, the first ledge to get to vamos isn't even visible, a fucking titanite demon, the necromancers can 2 shot you with the fireballs they cast, etc etc etc etc.

This whole fucking area is horsedick and I'll be honest, if it didn't even have the shortcut I wouldn't even come here and never finish the game. I think the only reason pinwheel is so easy is because the devs felt bad for putting people through the torture. Just in the last 30 minutes i've lost 30k+ souls here because either a necromancer ran behind skeletons, the skeletons gangbanged me into a corner, or one infinitely rolled at me and knocked me off a ledge.

I know you can get a divine weapon, but fuck wasting materials on that shit.

how does nito stick skeletons to his body?

>>121354189
Yeah I did, should've clarified. Is the scaling important, I guess is what I'm really asking. Or basically how would I build a pyromancy character? Is Fire enchant on weapons worth doing?

>>121353202
The gif was stupid, but then the guy at the end made it.

I'll buy Dark Souls 3 if they bring back full eye orbs.

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>>121307041
*I think you need some more SUNLIGHT in your life

>>121354503
>I have to go now. My planet needs me.

>>121354961
Pyromancy is designed so that you don't need any stat investment, only souls and fire seeds.

that being said the fire bonus from int and fth does add a bit of extra damage, so if you use pyromancies extensively (like doing a weaponless pure pyro character) it might be worth your while, other wise I would recommend putting those points elsewhere, like Vig, End, or main scaling stats for your weapons.

Flame weapon is a great weapon buff though, so definitely get it.

>>121355017
Can´t wait for them to renounce the pc release

>>121354882
>They're also a good disincentive for players who want to just summon a partner that plays the game for them.
So much this. You want to summon a fuccboi sunfag to throw lightning spears at everything, you can expect to take a chaos rapier up the taint every now and again for your trouble

>>121355017
Full eye orb was in the beta

then again DS2 beta had it too so ehhhh

>>121355150
Is the Dark Pyromancy Flame just a straight upgrade over the regular one? Seems like it as far as I can tell, unless I'm missing something.