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Fake Smiles Edition

Hollowed >>121300458

>DARK SOULS 3
>Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XwhYVzN_a0
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dark_souls_iii_gc_gameplay_reveal-35231_en.html
>Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RAlGv-IW4g
>Screenshots & Artwork
Official: https://imgur.com/a/GUjb3
Leaked: https://imgur.com/a/c08Bb
New screenshots & artwork: http://imgur.com/a/5fhcQ
>Leak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyRJ5u-L8qw <-- This is old, can we remove this?
>Interviews
http://pastebin.com/PUSbw02s
>Gameplay
http://pastebin.com/yWzzuVV1

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf
http://flockmod.com/dsg


>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
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>>121439530
no i just posted a funny filename
>>121439524
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>>121439635
It is a very funny filename, anonymous. May I save it?
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Anybody else like saving optional bosses for the end of the game just so you can see how hard you can wreck them with your end game equipment?
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Shit man, my character is level 67 but has the stats of a 120 and all I wanna do it CE it to where it's supposed to be, but I haven't CE'D since the steam update. how the fuck.
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Dark Souls is a real shit game when you think about it.
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>>121440328
Fuck off
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Rate?
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I downloaded the durzano controller deadzone fix for das2 a long time ago, put hundreds of hours into the PC version and lately I haven't been able to connect but it doesn't say I'm banned, VAC is good also. Namco support even said I wasn't banned.

Could that deadzone fix be to blame? I tried port forwarding as well, I can connect to DaS just fine but not Das2
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>>121440090
go ahead
save it
it's yours my friend
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>>121440969
super original
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>>121441225
damn, for what its worth I have never seen that before
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I've killed so many charred loyce knights that the portals flare up, and then no knight comes out. does /dsg/ have a favorite god for loyce soul farming on the name engraved ring so i can get some sun medals while i get the last 25 souls? my soul memory is jacked up to 5million.
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>>121442206
>he hasn't been using the agape ring while farming

you did this to yourself
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>>121442206
Ivory King is a popular coop spot, I'd say you'll be summoned regardless
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nth for I hope dark souls 3 won't suck :(
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>tfw getting invaded while hollow
almost had a fucking heart attack
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>>121442735
?
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>>121442985
Was playing SotFS and got invaded in Undead Crypt while trying to fucking figure out which door in that pit lead to the lever that unlocks the shortcut to Velstadt
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Most annoying non-boss enemy?
DeS, DaS, or DaS2.
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I'm retarded wheres the nest to get back to the asylum?
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>>121443530
DeS - Cthulhu head faggots in Latria or maybe the giant club fuckers inVoD especially in the swamp part

DaS - Blowdart snipers or drakes in Valley of Drakes

DaS2 - Exploding mummies or maybe the NPC invader just before Demon of Song in Amana
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>>121443530
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>>121443543
get on the elevator
do a 360 jumpspin off
land on the platform
walk over to the beam
do four rolls
climb the beam
you're there
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>>121443543
go on the lift between firelink and parish
roll out
jump onto ledge

you also need a key
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>>121443756
>>121443763
Much obliged
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>>121443530
>DeS
Dogs
>DaS
Dogs
>DaSII
Lightning shockwave priest at Dragon Shrine
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>>121443714
oh the memories
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>>121444159
the only way I ever got him pure meelee in SoTFS was by going into the stairs and hoping he swings the mace above me while I hit his legs

fun fun fun
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I can't connect to das2 anymore and I have no idea why, pls help. Even namco doesn't know why I can't connect. My kokoro is brokoro
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>>121444550
>>121444550
>>121444550
Is it because I don't have one of the DLC purchased?
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Hosting invades dark root garden SL 125
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im at the bonfire past prowlers
am stuck
pls help
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>>121443714
I kinda like him. for some reason it feels nice to block for a while and find openings to bonk him with a club. He can't seem to drain my stamina completely, so I never really had problems with that guy.
the warhammer and shield guy is typically harder for me to open up and kill just because he blocks really well.
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Just beat Stray Demon, some bullshit that his aoe will clip through if you're at the wrong angle even if facing it. Got some red chunks which is cool.
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>>121444340
I never really had a problem with him as a pure melee build on my first playthrough

I just baited him into attacking and rolled behind him, then got in a hit or two, and repeat
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Are people still PVPing at kiln and oolacile township?

I've kept all my characters in darkroot for months, thinking about progressing one to kiln if it's still active.
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Stupid fucking Smelter Demon, I've beat you tons of times before. I should be have no problem what the fuck is wrong with me.

Time to take a break...
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>Still getting DeS invasions
It will be a profound tragedy when the servers go offline.
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>>121446051
Is there a way someone could make a PC emulation/private server? Hell, I'd consider hosting if it's possible and comes to that
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>>121443530
Ds2
There's a few
- those hammer drakekeepers, fuckin whack a mole
- exploding mummies
- those witches in brume tower
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>>121444159
>>121443714
>>121444340

Do your brains liquify the moment blocking doesn't help you?

>>121445804
>Kiln
Kiln hasn't been a hotspot since like 2011.
>Township
Of course.
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>>121446436
does your dick grow harder every time you make a passive-aggressive condescending i'm-better-than-all-of-you reply?
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>>121446436
>Do your brains liquify the moment blocking doesn't help you?
He's more baffling than anything.

First encounter I just sit there watching and thinking to myself "wow he's really not going to stop?" while blocking those smashes that clip right through your body. Kind of funny really.
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>>121441225
it's bound to happen, and he has better gloves u kunt
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>>121447050
better gloves and better leggings
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>>121447050
>>121447232
chill out senpai
i got bored of farming so i went off to do the dlc for a bit
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post thing
where is the random doodle anon?
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I have 3 attunement slots and can't decide which of these I want to use
>Gravelord Sword Dance(s)
>Karmic Justice
>Great Magic Barrier
>Replenishment
>TWoP
What combo would be the most useful overall?
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What are some other weapons that an SL1 can use? The reinforced club and the handaxe are both fucking garbage. Shit hitboxes, shit range, shit wind up on every fucking attack, no proper r2 for the club, etc.
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>>121450486
>reinforced club
>garbage
better get used to it since that's the best you got.

also the r2 for it is really useful
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>>121450439
a buff
heal (for co-op or pvp)
gmb
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>>121450936
>also the r2 for it is really useful
the two-handed r2 at least
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Are there any famous Souls players who are actually good?

I'm not talking about guys who rely wholly on parries, or those who have a fully optimized build that uses the same tactics each fight. I mean people who can actively adapt to any situation and deal with it in an effective way.

I remember watching MrIWont4Get's videos a little while back and his general tactic was v get the opponent down to 1/2 health then finish with a backstab.

Are these people not to blame for the cancer that is the Souls community?
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Aside from mathew & ENB, any other souls channels?
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In Das1 at what point roughly do I need to fuck with the dragon proper? It's triggering me that I still haven't got those items yet and I wanna know whats behind it.
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>>121451668
Oroboro is genuinely good, but gets shit on because he's famous for the DMB falchion build. He has plenty of videos of him shitting on people with a wide variety of weapons, including 'bad' ones like twinblades
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>>121451861
The hellkite drake? Run around the staircase so you're standing at the side of the bridge, safe from the fire. Wait until it jumps down, and the MOMENT you see it start to jump down, haul ass past it
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>>121451982
But I wanna kill it
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>>121452015
Then sit under the bridge with a good bow. Many, many, many people before you have gone "Oh I'll just fight it now that I'm stronger, it'll be fine", and realized that the Hellkite Drake is one of the worst enemies in the souls franchise. It's not worth fighting legitimately for ANY reason. No good loot, no satisfaction, not fun to fight it, nothing
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>>121443530
Spear wielding hollows in FotG.
Fuck those guys.
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>>121452015
the only time i killed it i had ran under it and got LS, then sat on the rat side of the bridge and binosniped it.
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>>121452524
same
Their tracking pisses me off.
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>invade world
>they disconnect
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>>121453687
>invade world
>see 3 people standing around me as soon as I load in
>instantly TWoP'd and spammed from 100 to zero before I even gain control of my character
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>bloodborne gets its own mlgs
Something tells me that even DS3 won't surpass its moveset.
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>>121451668
>MrIWont4Get
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNK5sAvMUts
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>>121446160
It's most likely possible but in a very remote perspective. Like in 10+ years probably.
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>>121454036
kek
He's so fucking bad god damn.
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>>121454036
>kumomi
even worse
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>>121454036
so fucking salty for nothing
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>>121451668

Spades.
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>>121453964
Does DaS3 have something like transform attacks for 2handing? I don't remember seeing any in the Network Test, but maybe I just didn't notice.

Transform attacks are so good for some weapons.
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>>121454036

That's bullying.
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>>121453964
>yfw it's the exact same as tricked ludwigs, and instead of having an untricked mode it just gets a lame arcane buff like tonitrus
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Hey guys, check out this Video my friend made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br5lavzVhz4
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WHY DO PEOPLE PLAY AN INFERIOR VERSION OF BLOODBORNE?
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>>121455327
LHB is most likely just a crude imitation of original Holy Moonlight Blade created for simple hunters. MLGS looks smaller and is already shown to have some unique animations plus obviously going to have projectile attacks.

It's also the best looking version of MLGS since KF maybe and actually looks like it's made from moonlight energy.
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>>121455235
there are weapons like dual scimis, 1 handed it's 1 scimi, 2 handed it's dual scimis. a downgrade from powerstancing imho, but it means they might actually have some transforming shit. im not sure who they would make it look like souls though.
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>>121455327
I can't imagine swinging this thing around one-handed in Bloodborne though.
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>>121455462
it's shit
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>>121455574
It'd be better if it appeared to be a dagger with an oversized hilt and then when tricked the blade appears in a burst of energy. It'd be more consistent with how KF lore describes the weapon.
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>>121455574
>>121455584
Here's a bigger version.
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>>121455692
Its untricked mode is a longsword covered in rags, probably will function as ice rapier with stabbing moveset and some weak piercing projectile.
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>>121455787
i havent played bb yet but can you tell me what im looking at
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>>121456058
It's a list of known DLC weapons so far.
MLGS without moonlight blade is in upper left corner.
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>>121456212
thanks
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>>121455787
>11 weapons

Considering we started with 15, that's pretty impressive.
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>>121455787
Are those the DeS Iron Knuckles?
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>>121456496
It's some kind of an offhand parry weapon. I hope there's going to be a main hand one as well, BB has great unarmed moveset on par with bone fists.
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How do you pronounce "caestus"?
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>>121457168
sess-tuss
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>>121457168
KAY STAYS
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>>121457168
You know how Julius Caesar is really more like "Kaiser"? It's like that, it shares common etymology.
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HOLY SHIT

Can someone help me with Lower Undead Burg? My weapon is too fucking slow and I'm too fucking bad.
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>>121457763
WHAT LEVEL AND PLATFORM
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>>121457763
sure family see u on the genesis at sl 387
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>>121457869
pc

39
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>>121457350
But that's wrong. Caesar's name is pronounced See zar
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>>121458124
see zer*
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>>121457920
i'm that level
i'm heading out now but i'll be back in an hour and i'm happy to help you out all the way to anor londo if you want it

you're way overleveled btw
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>>121458191
>>121458124
>>121457350
Kaiser is correct, because the Germans got this pronunciation from the Pope, because they were the true Holy Roman Empire, the only genuine successor to the Imperium Romanum
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>>121458243
Yeah... I know. I just can't kill anything because my weapon is way too slow. I just get fucking rekt by bloodloss from these fucking thieves before I can attack them, even if I swing preemptively
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>>121458370
What weapon are you using?
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Is it me or does Dark Souls 3 look fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI7dfYQBQHM
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>>121458610
It's some weapon called Demon's Greataxe. Got it off a boss.
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>>121458953
I doubt you'd have the proper stats for it at SL 39, which is why you're swinging it really slowly and dealing low damage.

What are your stats at exactly?
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>>121459263
vit 12, atn 8, end 13, str 46, dex 13, res 11, int 9, faith 9
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>>121459347
What the fuck?

If you can't manage with the DGA just get a battle axe and upgrade it a little, you'll still do plenty of damage with it. Try to get used to the DGA though
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>people who clearly are waiting around for duels at Belfry Sol summoning the NPC phantom and chugging estus.
I'm sticking to Iron Keep Bridge thank you very much, never have I encountered so much faggotry as I have at Belfry Sol

I don't mind chugging and phantoms if you're trying to get through the area but if you're clearly waiting for duels you're a faggot.
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>>121459347
>>121459456
What this anon said.

Alternatively, to take full advantage of your Str you could grab a Club and upgrade it as much as you can, you should do pretty high damage and it's able to carry you for a fairly long time through the game.
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>>121459456
I just keep getting fucked by the two dogs and capra demon. I can't get a single attack off and I can't roll past them.
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>>121460070
If you aren't getting the hang of the Demons Greataxe, try something smaller/more suited to your playstyle, plus the DGA will be really affecting your equip load and your roll, especially at 13 End.
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>>121460335
I have Havel's and Lautrec's rings, so my roll is fine.
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>>121458124
So you don't know?
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>>121443530
DaS - Drakes in valley of the drakes

DaS2 - Frozen Sanics
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>>121460710
Good lad
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>>121443530
Des: Redeye knights, especially since I generally don't use shields.

DaS: Channelers.

DaS2: Can't really decide between the hedgehogs in Eleum Loyce or the reindeer.
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>>121443530
DeS: Giants in the Valley of Defilement
DaS: The Dragon Asses in Lost Izalith
DaS2: Infinite Mace Man, or the Spider-men in Tseldora, for that death attack they do.
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>>121443530
Twinks and hackers.
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>>121460710
>>121461420
yo
still need help senpai?

i'm level 31 iirc
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>tfw help your bro through Frozen Outskirts with 2 other people
>they die on the way to fog gate
>beat Ludd and Zallen first try with your bro
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>>121462586
>tfw you get summoned and die to a stupid mistake
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>>121462573
nah I just cleared out Witch in Blighttown, thanks though
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Which game had the best cinematic trailer in your opinion?
DeS > DaS2 > DaS
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>Tomb of Giants

go
FUCK
yourself
FROM


Jesus fucking CHRIST how much more of a bullshit can an area get?

>dark as fuck
>no lantern or spell? GO FUCK YOURSELF
>skeleton archers on impossible locations for you to deal
>cant even KILL anything unless you got divine weapon
>THE RIDE NEVER ENDS level


FUCK THIS GAME

JESUS

I JUST WANT TO GET OUT GOD DAMN IT I ONLY GOT IN TO TRY TO SAVE THE CLERIC CHICK THIS BETTER BE GOD DAMN WORTH IT YOU WORTHLESS WHORE
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>>121463291
>on impossible locations
you can actually jump to that archer from the ledge with two giant skellies
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>>121463421

to bad I CANT EVEN SEE THE LEDGE

I think I found a way out just give me a few minutes
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>>121463291
You get a guaranteed lantern in Patches' trap.
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>>121463291
Everything after Anor Londo is crap.
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>>121463291
>no lantern or spell? GO FUCK YOURSELF
a skull lantern can be found early on in the area

>skeleton archers in impossible locations for you to deal
>implying anyone gets hit by them
Plus you can get to all of of the archers

>cant even KILL anything unless you got divine weapon
The necromancers are only in the Catacombs m8
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Which NPC is the cutest?
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>>121463291
Pretty sure they stay dead in there even without a divine weapon.
Or you´re just slow as fuck.
Also, there isnßt that much you even have to kill in there. The skeleton beast are just as blind as you
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>>121463610

to bad I got 4+ giant fucking skeletons to fight on narrow paths where I cant see shit before that god damn lantern


>>121463718

I didnt even go to Anor Londo I went to save that cleric chick
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So I'm doing an SL1 run and I want to get the chaos ember, but it seems impossible without the orange charred ring. I know orange charred ring doesn't affect fire damage you take and clearly gets rid of "lava damage". Would flash sweat let me run on the lava a little longer?
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>>121463779
>cute
>posts an ayyy lmao
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>>121463914

DWGR + Gold Hemmed Robes + Flame Stoneplate + Flash Sweat makes it easy to get it.
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>>121463876
Dude you're fucking up, you're only supposed to go as far as Pinwheel without the lordvessel.
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>>121463914
Can´t you roll to it and grab it before you die?
I think flash sweat works but don´t quote me on that.
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>>121463779
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>>121463923
Flame stoneplate requires me to go to sens which I haven't done yet (infact I haven't even fought the gargoyles as I skipped around a bit). I have DWGR though.

>>121464189
Well considering I died while trying to roll/jump to the Soul on the little mound of crap and considering that the lava run to the ember is a lot bigger than the one to the soul, idk.
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>>121464242
Thank you based Gwyn for exterminating this race of winged goblins.

Praise the Sun
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>>121464170

I didn't know that I just pushed forward now I am at the wheel skeletons and I am tracking back up
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>>121464385
The one on the mould is hard to get because it´s actually hard as fuck for your mentally retarded undead to walk up that little slope.
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>>121462865
>you invade someone
>you make a slight misstep
>fall to your death
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>>121460070
If you submit to your get goods, you can throw dung pies over the wall with the fog gate and stand around while capra dies from toxic damage.
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So whatever happened to this armor set?

It's the "mascot" armor set of Dark Souls 3, yet nearly every single promotional photo in recent weeks has shown the Knight 2.0 set instead of this one.
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>>121464748
there were in-game screenshots with it?
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>>121464748
BAMCO
A
M
C
O
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>>121463291

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I AM FUCKING OUT OF THERE


FUCK SKELETONS
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>>121463779
Who needs cute when you're high on Elizabeth Mushrooms?
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I haven't played in a while. A long while.

Did the community settle on a SL/SM for Dark Souls 2?

What did they decide?
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>>121464853
There have been some.
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>>121452524
>Spear wielding hollows

Wait till they raise their shield and guard break, same as DaS1.
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I dont understand why everyone refuses to go onto the platform in the BoB arena.

If I even start walking up the steps alot of people will forfeit the match.
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>>121466104
i think this might be boss/lord of cinder armor because that helmet also looks like a crown
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>>121466232
das1 spear guys never attack you though, they just shuffle around until you get bored and kick their shields off
das2 spear guys have retardedly fast run speed and crazy tracking attacks
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>>121464748
>>121466104
Totally inferior design to Fluted and Elite Knight on par with Faaram.
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>>121466478
Everything in DaS2 has retarded tracking.except the player.
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>>121466623
It does feel like Namco possibly chose it to be the posterboy, as with Faraam, because they thought it was cooler.

It would be like if they had decided to use the Black Iron set for Dark Souls advertising because it looks more "badass" than Elite Knight.
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>>121464748
Farram's set can be classified as the "mascot" set of DaS2 too, yet you get it from a chest in a secret area past 6 ruin sentinels
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>>121467501
It's pretty obvious where their heart was really at concerning the mascot set, with Alva's in the gesture menu.
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>>121463779
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>>121468216
You sure about that?
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>be forest covie
>invade a dude's world
>first person I see is a red spirit
>oh cool a buddy to gangrape the player with
>red spirit faces me like he wants to fight
>the player backstabs him and kills him
>swing at the player
>dies in one hit

uh...wat
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>>121468381
Very
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making some shitter quit the arena by giving him some of his own medicine is a nice feeling.
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>>121468381
>That "fur" texture

Goddamn I don't know why they thought that effect was a good shortcut to fur. It's more of an intense blur than anything fur like.
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The lightning demons are fucking niggers to fight on SL1.

Not only are their hitboxes so fucked up that my club/axe are going right through them without doing any damage, but they also infinitely dodge.
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>Cutest NPC
How is this a contest?
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>>121468814
try ranged battle
weakness: head
weakness: falling
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>>121469050
Yeah you're right, the Mushrooms are GOAT.

You bet your sweet mycorrhizae my eye was glancing hither Elizabeth, you saucy fucking fungus.
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>>121464748
That armor set looks way too unique and "regal" to be something that you can simply find in a treasure chest or on the ground somewhere.

I highly reckon that that is going to be a boss armor. The "crown"-like helmet makes me think that the boss will be one of those Heirs of Cinders.
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>>121470529
The player character in 3 is going to be one of the heirs of cinder. Hence why your poster-set has a crown.
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>>121470529
>Heirs of Cinders
?
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>>121470764
When you defeat the Dancer of the Frigid Valley in the network beta test, the words that appear on screen are "Heir of Cinder Defeated".
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Anybody got the last tier list pic?
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>>121471424
wasn't it lord of cinder? are these different things or different translations of the same thing?
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>>121471629
Lord and heir are most certainly not the same thing.
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>>121471662
and 4 isn't death. things get weird when you translate to and from nipponese
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>>121472061
>Cursed One became The Pursuer
>Exile Sentry got turned into Flexile Sentry
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>>121472061
The Japanese language is capable of differentiating lord and heir, so its not really a salient point. They have extremely different words for those concepts. You'd have to be an absolutely incomprehensible translator to somehow think that any of the word meaning heir are contextually meant to be lord.
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>>121472328
>translators messed the summoning/inasion system completely
also >>121472194
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>>121472061
>>121471629
It's intentional.
The player is still referred to as a Lord of Cinder when using an Ember. The Heirs of Cinder never linked the Fire, they seemingly just have some amount of Embers of the First Flame passed down to them.
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>>121471629
>>121471662
>>121470764
>>121470737

Actually, it's "Heir of Fire"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSAaBvpW2uw

Go to 27:30
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>some weapons replace your kick with shitty ass moves
why, i want to break my enemies guard for fucks sake
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>>121456754
its not a parry weapon, just a fist weapon
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>>121473135
use a different weapon then?
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>>121442206
Gotta be a phantom for farming Souls. Higher drip rate
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>>121473135
Are the alt. kicks unparriable(like the estoc "kick")?
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>trying to farm those loyce souls
>wear all item discovery gear you have
>none of them drop anything
>the last loyce knight finally drops something
>it's leggings
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>121476608
iirc item discovery doesn't stack, it evens out. only wear the best it.disc item
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>>121476750
which is?

jester cap or the ring?
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>>121476608
>wearing multiple item discovery items
>increasing item discovery for farming Loyce souls
Anon what on earth are you doing?
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>>121476805
i think the ring+2
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>>121476830
I need only six more I'm getting desperate
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>>121476750
Yeah this. According to a bunch of empirical data mined by autists item discovery in two seems to average between values for the items used rather than stacking on each other in some way.

I'm still not sure if I agree, since that would means rusted coins always lower your discovery rate but I feel like I've found them helpful.
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>>121476903
Armor pieces seem to override loyce souls so you don't want extra item discovery in the first place
AND GSR+2 gives you the most possible item discovery, statistic from reddit etc, not that you would want that for loyce souls because of the reason above
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>>121476949
>since that would means rusted coins always lower your discovery rate
Its probably something like GSR gives you a 1.2 multiplier (numbers from my ass just for the examples sake), jesters cap gives 1.1 multiplier etc,so if you wear GSR with something else it averages lower
Rusted coins would give like 1.05 multiplier meaning its better if you have base item discovery, but worse if you have a dedicated item for it like a ring.

Also these goddamn captchas going off the side of the screen how do you even fuck that up in the fist place?
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I didn't realize in Ds2 arena everyone had a black-steel katana/chaos blade.

They arent even wearing ninja outfits so i'm judging them.
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>>121443530
DeS: Either octopus sorcerers or giant depraved ones
DaS: Dogs, torch hollows, oolacile sorcerers, hydra (it said annoying, not hard)
DS2: every 3000+ HP NPC invader, spear-using royal soldiers, hollow mages, drakekeepers, reindeer, smelter hammer statues, lydia pyromancers
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>>121469154
>ranged
>on sl 1

I'd rather kill myself than get firebombs or throwing knives. And fireball is impossible to aim after a certain distance. Anyways i'm farming the worms in demon ruins now and I want to fucking kill myself.
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>curved swords move set
holy shit am I in love
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>>121478051
why are you doing that?
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>>121478051
im pretty sure the stagger happens even if the damage is shit. the point is to hit their heads so that they slip off the edge
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>>121478051
buddy you can use a light crossbow
get it divine+10 for amazing damage
ez
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>>121478430
Red titanite chunks since I can't seem to find the second one at great hollow and because every other one requires I place the lord vessel, which i need to kill 4 kids since frampt is a fag, and i'd rather fight 4kids with +5 chaos club instead of a +2.
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>>121478376
How much do you love it really?
Because if you love it enough you go into ng+7 for curved nil fuck shit up greatsword.
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this one fag with a boulder in blighttown keeps throwing rocks across the map and killing me

I get to the swamp and he pushes my shit in
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>>121478661
listen
it's on a hovering root near the bottom
you have to stick close to the center of the tree, follow the roots down to a point you can jump down and land on the branch with the red titanite on it.

It's not this branch, but this is looking at it.
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>>121443530
Skeleton beasts and the shell crab things before Seath.
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>>121479102
>>121479102
I already got that one.
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>>121477603
on my phone the captcha goes off the top of the screen and cuts off, i literally have to guess what the 'select all X' is based on what the pictures are. i mean shit, parts of dark souls were easier than that.
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>1 more loyce soul
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>>121479613
Who cares about the loyce souls you probably earned more souls by doing that than you did from the rest of the game combined
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>>121479498
the other one is easy.
It's just on a branch on a body

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3f5PtpnSmU
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>>121479945

>mouse camera control without dsmfix
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>>121480189
not my video bromigo i'm just trying to help
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>>121479096
go from the right. do you have rusted iron ring?
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>>121480632

Of course, that's good and all. The camera twitching is just very headache-inducing.
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any good tops with straps? like a brigand top back but more strap, less continuous surface. ds2
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>>121443530
>nobody said dorian yet
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Is there any reason not to use a strike weapon considering how enemies are weak to strike? I feel like unless you are using strike weapon you are just gimping yourself.
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>>121463779
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>>121482354
most strike weapons have shit movesets. Many fast, fleshy enemies have nearly equal strike resistance to their other resistances, so faster, better ranged weapons are more effective on them.
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>>121451668
martyrsbrigade was one of the best
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>>121439530
>finally plays Das1
>Normie in Vidya taste
>Holy fuck dis shit is sexy
>Playing as a knight
>currently on moonlight butterfly
>das3 when?
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>>121451668
Probably not. There were a few twitchfags for a while that were legitimately good. I mean like playing unlocked without spinning in circles like a faggot, playing hyper aggressive and rushing down instead of being passive, using and winning with literally every weapon in the game, ranging from greatscythe to crescent axe, etc.

But none of them ever had more than a dozen viewers and I don't even remember their names now. It seems like actually being good at the game is a terrible way to get your name out in this community.
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>>121439530

She looks so cute with her eyes open..
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>>121483775
>get crest shield
>block
>wait
>fly ded
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>>121482662
>the only person in the game whos situation you can actually improve
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would someone be so kind and drop me their soul of sif and/or soul of gwyn on PC?
I am SL 113 and in ng+
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>don't feel like spears are my thing
>roll with swords all the time
>pick up winged spear
>pokes for days
holy shit i love this thing
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>>121485624
just use cheat engine
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>>121468667
priscilla is literally cut content
compare her hair with the hair of other npcs
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>>121486230
i don't want to
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how do you want this npc miyazaki?
just fuck my shit up
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>>121486423
but begging for handouts on a Taiwanese cartoon souls board is okay?

You know anyone who gives you one would have cheated them in, right?
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>>121486571
not necessarily
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>>121486449

It's just a bad angle.
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>>121486234
>is literally cut content
>while being in the game
wait...
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>>121486712
but getting handouts from people is basically cheating friend
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>>121486571
>begging

No, he asked and there's not a single thing you can do to stop anyone from doing so.

You'll accept that since you have no choice.
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>>121486950
we could trade
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>>121486989
so homeless people are just "asking" for money?
fuck off
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>>121487215
Uhh... yes... literally so.
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>>121455787
REMINDER: this list DOESN'T EVEN COUNT all the new firearms and tools that we can be certain will be in -- that weird rifle-cane that the NPC ally hunter used in the demo is one such weapon
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>>121487215
>so homeless people are just "asking" for money?

>Hey would you have an extra dollar man?

That is LITERALLY asking.


>fuck off

nah, like you just read above

>>121486989
>You'll accept that since you have no choice.

You're going to deal with this no matter what :^)
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>>121463779
Mericless Roenna
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>>121487348
>rifle-cane
>delayed explosives
>blacksky eye
Holy shit that DLC looks more like a proper expansion pack.
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>>121487424
so what do you define as begging?
>>121487520
>moenna will never be a thing
wtf internet?
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>>121485596
>implying
your help is temporary at best -- it's clear that she's dying and that the humanities are only acting as painkillers, if they're even working at all (she's the type of person to try and fake not being in pain so you wouldn't worry).

Killing her is the most merciful option, and is the best thing you can do for her, period. Quelana is right.
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>>121486772
no its not
still looks like a 3 yo children
miyazaki said that he told to someone outside from to do priscilla and some other npc, dont remember who, i think ceaseless
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>>121487737
>almost literally double the amount of trick weapons in the game, adding 11
>devs have stated that the total amount of added weapons/tools will be around 30 (!!!)
>DLC zones are in a Nightmare, which means they'll be permanent pvp zones
>proper co-op covenant / arena system in the League
>New areas look super cool, lorewise, and how they fit into the setting
>fight legendary figures like Ludwig
TOH is going to be AOTA, if not greater
Literally going point-for-point to address each and every one of the game's flaws
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>>121486773
painted world of cut and unfinished content of ariamis with demon's souls crows everywere and des inspired enemies
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How is bleed and poison in ds and ds2? I wanna know if i can utilize it as a dex character.
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>>121488227
>>DLC zones are in a Nightmare, which means they'll be permanent pvp zones

>Remember how I couldn't even reach amygdala bwithout disconnecting due to a constant stream of invasions.

Well thanks, anon, you just talked me out of buying the DLC.
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>>121487918
>Quelana is right.
she doesn't ask you to kill her
source: you get the spell even if you don't kill the fair lady, just the rest
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>>121488249
bleed do all damage at once, from 20 to 50% , and poison do damage very slowly in das, like power within. in ds2 poison is fast like plague in des, and i dont know about bleeding in ds2
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>>121488401
and people say bloodborne has no pvp
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>>121488249
>>121488249
>poison
For PvE can be useful in a lot of situations, but some bosses can be immune. In pvp it's basically useless since everyone will be carrying around moss in either game, if they aren't you didn't win because poison is good, you won because they were a shitter.

>bleed
PvE:
useful for some fights in DS, useless in Das2. PvP:
one of the best ways to fight in ds, completely fucking useless in das2
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>>121487918
humanity is healing her you faget.
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>>121488569
It doesn't outside the nightmare zones, that's why the nightmare zones are so fucking crowded with it. People that say BB has no PVP are the people that generally minmax and troll the beginner areas, and those people can go fuck themselves because they don't have the balls for a proper enemy that's expecting them.
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>>121474732
I don't think so, at least not the curved sword backflip thing
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I literally just got permastunned by a longsword even during hyperpoise

holy shit are people this bad that they have to cheat?
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>>121488569
People just still don't understand that for successful invasions in BB you need to move around as you need to resonate with the host by standing near the place he is in another world, so moving around the location is a better way to catch hosts. I'm getting way more traffic in BB than in DS1 and don't need to go through constant asspain of getting more orbs like in DS2.
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>>121488712
>humanity hurts all the firekeepers by clinging to them and corroding their skin
>for some reason it heals this firekeeper
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>>121487918
Nah, forcefeeding her humanity is actually healing her. A bit. After a lot of humanity.
What I´m curoius about is how having giant parasite eggs grow on your body would help
Even if it´s just painkillers, that´s still better than the what the rest gets, they just don´t get anything in the best case and go hollow in the worst.
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>>121488965
>>humanity hurts all the firekeepers by clinging to them and corroding their skin

only the dkmon knightess is mentioned to anything like this be happening , anastacia is fine after you revive her. also you are fucking forgeting that the fair lady is a chaos demon.
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>>121489189
maybe they're supposed to be leeching toxins and junk out of her body?
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>>121488786
>>121474732

The special forward+r1 attacks are definitely parryable.
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Is prepare to die still populated?

I want to do a way of the white cleric miracle man
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>>121466719
You think I'm playin'?
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>>121489607
I saw like 4 signs down in the burg earlier. 3 white, 1 red. And a lot of coop still happens before gargs, so I assume townshit still has pvpers. And with ds3 drawing near, it's sure to get some more players coming back for a bit.
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>>121489760
>ds2 memes
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>>121489760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r53zEnHyNPM
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>>121489927
>mems
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>>121488249
In DaS1 poison is kinda shitty. No good or easy way to build it up and the damage is underwhelming for the effort. The only real use of it is bow-cheesing things with poison arrows.
Conversely, bleed is godlike. It is attached to dozens of extremely good weapons with little to no tradeoffs, easy to build up and triggers to cause massive % based damage instant to the target. Some bosses are vulnerable but most bosses and more than half of the enemies in the game are immune.

In DaS2, things are reversed. Bleed is hard to build up and most bleed weapons either have too little buildup to ever trigger it, or have decent buildup at the expense of being shit weapons. It procs to deal a flat 200 damage and reduce the target's max stamina for a few seconds (which essentially just means there's a few seconds before you can begin building it up again).
Conversely, poison is great with several good weapons that can build it up, and a variety of effective specialized means of inflicting it quickly. The poison DoT is much stronger in DaS2 (about 1100 damage in total), making it a viable, though specialized, playstyle in both pvp and pve. Unlike DaS1, there are very few enemies immune to either status effect and most bosses can be poisoned.
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>>121489189
Anastasia basically tells you that she's going to kill herself as soon as you link the fire, as she "wants to die human"
>>
>the reason you can't level up at Bonfires in DaS2 is because all the firekeepers have abandoned their duties
DO YOUR JOBS YOU LAZY BITCHES
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>121488570
>one of the best ways to fight in ds
because it's so good or because it's attached to the broken katanas?
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>>121491794
How does that even work, aren´t they supposed to be abnormally good people, and that´s the only reason they can even create humanity?
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>>121489189
>>121489231
>>121491629
I remember reading SOMEWHERE that the eggsacks actually store the excess humanity for the Fair Lady.

So maybe she eats the Humanity you give her to soak the poison out and then expels the poison-soaked humanities as worm-things?
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>>121489189
I always thought that the egg-bearers were carrying Quelaag's eggs, not her sister's. After all, the Fair Lady mentions that all her eggs have died, and Eiyngi is surprised that you don't have eggs on you when you first meet, despite having never seen her before.

It seems that Quelaag's conditions for joining the Chaos Covenant involve strapping you down and pumping eggs into your abdomen, and you've just got to lie there and take it.
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>>121488570
>In pvp it's basically useless since everyone will be carrying around moss in either game
whenever i was watching some ppl pvp, i was wondering whether the poison-players just failed to stay close to the enemy in case they want to eat moss or if moss is actually broken
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>>121491926
The katanas don't really get the bleed effect off most of the time. The best way is golden tracer. It also helps indirectly because you will be most likely carrying red moss and the red moss animation looks like a divine blessing animation, so you can psyche your opponent out by using red moss at random times.
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>>121492106
I have never ever ever heard that, from anywhere. Are you sure that your memory isn't tricking you, anon?
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>>121492106
>>121492315

Description of her soul:
A Fire Keeper's soul is a draw for humanity,
and held within their bosoms, below just a
thin layer of skin, are swarms of humanity
that writhe and squirm.
To her, the countless eggs which appeared
were cradles for each tiny humanity.
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>>121492106
>>121492315
her soul says that the eggs are craddles for humanity. the eggs for her are children
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>>121492535
>>121492604

>to her, the countless eggs which appeared
I always thought that that was how she perceived them, not as they actually were
>oh look, these cute little eggs
>it's almost as if they're for the humanity!
It's something tender and motherlike, but also a delusion. It fits her
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Anyone down for a fresh co-op run in DeS, DaS, or DaS2? I'm on PS3 for all of them. We could do some PvP too.
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>>121492729
>>121492535
>>121492604
I should clarify:

The reason that I think this phrase refers to her perception of them, as opposed to their actual state of being, is as follows:

The fact that the description opens with "to her,..." is telling. If it were literally describing the eggs, it would be better to begin with
>her eggs...
or
>the eggs...
but adding the emphasis on
>to her, the eggs...
Gives the whole phrase a much more heavy emphasis on the idea of her perception of the things.

In addition, the Fair Lady mentions to you that her eggs have "gone still." Yet, the Humanity that claws at the firekeepers are said to "swarm" and "writhe." The two descriptions are in conflict if we assume that the eggs are literally cradles for her humanity(ies?)
>>
tempted to do another ds1 run, faith this time.

but not sure what weapon and armor to use.

was looking for something interesting. already had greatswords, scimitar, great scythe, all kinds of rapiers.
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>>121492172
why the FUCK does she attack me at first sight then?
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>>121493232
Grant
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>>121493362
Because gib humanity pls
>>
I really fucking hope they do factions right in DSIII. In DS they were fine in a sense that you could reah them all quickly, DSII was shit, some like Dragon covenant you couldn't even join until almost the very end.
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>>121493441
But I´m hollow as fuck.
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>>121494026
I'd have to chalk that one up to gameplay, since FROM obviously doesn't want to reward players for being shit at fighting the boss

Yes, lorewise, it would make more sense for Quelaag to give you a pass if you show up hollow with 00 humanity on the counter.

I mentioned in another thread that it would be neat if the replaced RES with a SPEECH skill, so that you could hypothetically talk your way out of situations like this -- still as useless as RES, but more fun from a lore and RP standpoint. If no-one remembers the specifics, I could elaborate again
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>>121494026
so because there is a fucking hollow that is probably insane running at her direction
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quelaag have unused dialogue btw
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>>121494851
>character in dark souls having unused something

I'm shocked
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>>121494851
>>121494851
>quelaag have unused dialogue btw
> 11/06/15(Fri)15:34:55
>Year of our lord and savior twenty and aught fifteen.
>bringing up quelaag's dialogue like its not known

Nigga is u cereal?

Nearly every NPC has cut dialog.
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>>121493415
any other ideas?

>>121493774
DS also had the problem that some of them were halfassed.

and the covenant items/spells had no consistency whatsoever.
stupid question, but i heard this somewhere in the last couple of days: do chaos pyromancies scale with humanity?
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>>121495215
>>121495240
>no mods to restore Oscar's cut content
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>>121495427
>implying DaS modding will ever graduate past texture mods or small dsfix-like mods
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>>121495398
>stupid question, but i heard this somewhere in the last couple of days: do chaos pyromancies scale with humanity?
Yes, but only to a certain degree, though I am not sure which, I think something like soft cap of 10 and hard cap of 25, its been years since I played DS and I was rocking a faith build so I'm not all that knowledgeable about chaosmancies.
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>>121495215
kek
but it was recorded
>>121495240
yea but they cut all the dialogues of quelaag; and most of cut dialogues are useless.

>>121495427
theres dis lil video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-HKBpPgR-4
>>121495571
>what is CE
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>>121463252
>DaS2
Looking at it again, I really would like a slower-paced souls game. Not combat-wise necessarily. Rather, you'd spend more time exploring/navigating and enemy encounters are farther in between but harder overall. That's the feeling I get from the trailer.
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>>121495682
>what is

Don't be Iazy. Go Iook it up bitch.
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>>121495682
>what is CE
Not a mod.
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>>121495571
Well there was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLTeQVfaQL8
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>>121496203
all this video does is fill me with the rage of knowing that there will never be a hammer class between hammers and great hammers, like how greatswords exist between swords and UGS
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>>121496573
So you're saying you want an "Ultra Greathammer" class?
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>>121496735
No, I want a class of medium hammers between hammers like the mace and blacksmiths hammer, and hammers like the Cheeto / Smough's hammer
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how much vitality points should you have for your average spellsword build in DaS2

i feel that i'm going at something the wrong way, considering how i keep dying like butter even when wearing the heaviest, most damage resistant armor I can
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>>121496894
>armor matters
kek
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>>121496894
try less armor, more dodging/blocking
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>>121497229
I would do that in Dark Souls 1, but in 2, there's just a lot of high damaging enemy spam and really unclear attack animations/shockwaves that it doesn't seem as viable to me.
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>>121497652
>shockwaves
can we stop with this meme already?
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>>121497798
when we stop the sky being blue meme
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>>121497652
Nice nostalgia
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>>121498268
shockwaves have always been a problem, but they're just so much worse in dark souls 2
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>>121495850
>being this newfag
>>121495871
it does modifications
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>>121498124
Yeah people really need to understand how light refraction works, and that it only appears blue due to that being the shortest wavelength, in fact Butterflies aren't the same colour you think they are either.
Blackjack, Theists.
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>>121498549
No they're not, quit being bad. I don't know why Dark Souls 1 gets a pass so often but people try their absolute damnedest to make Dark Souls 2 seem more unfair than it really is.
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>>121498268
c h e r r y p i c k i n g
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>>121498783
If that were a Dark Souls 2 webm you'd be creaming yourself at the thought of yet another opportunity to flair your neckbeard at the game.
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>>121498720
ok, i'm going from one to the other

in 1, they don't fucking swarm you with tanky fuckers who kill you very quickly in tiny rooms. whenever they do swarm you, its with shitty little hollows and the like who you melt like butter and are only even a threat if you are paying attention.

In Dark Souls 2, they throw a million fast as fuck guys who are super strong at you a lot.
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>>121499080
some giant bosses that you fight once is not the same thing as every enemy in the game including bosses and normal enemies, and this things aren't even in the level of ds2 bullshitness.
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>>121499110
Name some examples.

>>121499430
It's not "every enemy". Have you considered that you're just not good at Dark Souls 2?
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>>121499430
how about you post some ds2 bullshit then
oh right there isnt any
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>>121498720
because
>>121499430
it IS unfair as it looks like, the game was made to be unfair for the sake of being ''hard'', nor to be fair, like ds1, these webms of das1 were not intentional, different from ds2 that had a billion patches and even a new version that was sold as a different game that have the same hitboxes and grabs bugs and new dlcs with new enemies with hitboxes and grabs bugs.

>>121499696
that was almost funny, retard. you know there's a lot.
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>havel armor
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Anyone know what the story of DS3 is?
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>>121499696
>how about you post some ds2 bullshit then
>oh right there isnt any
jesus fucking christ you have the worst case of post purchase rationalization

>>121499803
practically nailed it. i'm willing to guess the shitty fast and glidy animations are the result of both the team being stressed to release on time, and the fact that they're "hardcore difficult" means they weren't actually fixed.
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>>121499683
>It's not "every enemy". Have you considered that you're just not good at Dark Souls 2?
>see bullshit all the time
>bullshit happens with me
>huurr you are bad
i already finished das2 and it's easy as fuck with some spiked of ''difficulty'' when you have to fight multiple enemies at the same time
screenshot related is my character

>>121500046
also horrible director, the director of the last dlc was much better than the one that made the default game. Don't forget that bandai fucked the maps up and this literally ruined everything.
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>>121499803
Dark Souls 2 isn't that hard, and it's sure as hell not unfair, at least not any more than Dark Souls 1 is.

It's always some retarded excuse. It's never the player's fault.
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Anyone still playing demons souls? I'm looking for summon signs. but Im just guessing the game is dead.
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>>121499803
>>121500046
>ds1 drones getting btfo
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>>121500254
>Using le greentext
If it's so easy then why are you bitching about how unfair it is on some anonymous imageboard. Are you crying for the sake of crying.
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>>121500254
is ivory crown actually going to be good?

i've been going through the whole game, currently at sir alonne in iron crown, who is fucking bullshit sprinkles with his mind boggling "fast anime katana teleports behind u" style that clashes with what the setting is supposed to be.
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>>121499964
world is fucked, lords of cinder, kill them, link or abandon flame or whatever
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>>121500259
its not hard but it is unfair, like the rat sif boss ripoff, 3 hats poisoning and stunlocking you while a giant rat attakc you, this is not fair, also a enemy that grabs you when you are hitting him from behing is also not fair. Also ruin sentinels, i can stay typing all the day.
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i did it senpai
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>>121499080
>a wide variety of Dark Souls II hitbox webms in every which location
vs
>one webm of Dark Souls hitboxes and one of a rare glitch, both only in the same boss fight and room
O i am laffin sunny
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>>121500509
post
purchase
rationalization
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i want a /dsg/ about des, das1 and das3
miyazaki general when
ds2 posters of /dsg/ are the australians of /int/
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>>121500581
sir alone wasnt so bad actually, just dont use life gems. but the path to him is utterly retarded.
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>>121500259
>>121500259
>das2 isn't unfair

Let's just look at a random ass enemy then. Armored Turtle Knight

>infinite poise
>reduces a ton of damage
>not able to be backstabbed
>not allowed to go behind it
>has god tier tracking and can do a full 360 in 200lb armor while swinging a giant mace
>thanks to the tracking you cannot even get beside it
>only way to fight it is to cheese with range or face it head on like an absolute retard
>if you don't have enough agility, you die

Or hippopautamus enemies
>self explanatory

Or the knights at dragon shrine

Or the heide knights

Or basically every enemy in the game since they all have god tier tracking and don't let you use any strategy to kill them other than "walk in to bait attacks, then attack as many times as possible before they recover" or ranged attacks.
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>>121500730
Now do it on the other platforms like the rest of us.
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>>121500259
>Dark Souls 2 isn't that hard, and it's sure as hell not unfair
those fucking hammerdudes in amana sure are
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Do i go full dex for bow cheese?
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>>121494278
I still think that they should offer you quests against more mindless things as alternate bossfights if you talk them down.
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>>121500909
i don't even get the chance to learn his patterns most of the time, I'm swarmed with fucking bullshit every time I attempt to reach him. They at least could have set up a shortcut after you go through the initial gauntlet.
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>>121500912
>Armored Turtle Knight

Are you being ironic?
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>>121498634
>it does modifications
Being pedantic just makes you look like an even bigger retard.
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>>121496843
So would you call those Greathammers and the current Greathammers UltraGreathammers?

>>121498268
Thunder shockwave to follow the Lightning wave?
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>>121501256
no, not him, he is not hard, but he is unfair, he is full of gimmics to fuck new players.
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>>121500619
Shoot the small rats with a bow, or just kill them before the big one appears. Don't stand near enemies like a dipshit if they're about to grab. You're not a pro at i-frames, get out of the way. The ruin sentinels are easily dispatched with any decently upgraded weapon, and for they most part they take turns attacking

Don't blame the game for your failures.

>>121500808
I've actually posted two different webms of two different boss fights, and now I've posted a third.

>>121500912
Did you seriously use the ironclads as an example of a "bullshit enemy". I'm convinced you actually are bad at the game. Dodge and punish the hippos, same with the drakekeepers. Parry the heide knights, backstab the spear ones.

You disappoint me /dsg/. You'd think a group of people passionate about a game series that is renowned for it's challenge and difficult would cry a lot less.
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Does anyone know exactly how tail cuts work in DaS1? I tried searching but couldn't find any info on it. Is it based on number of hits, amount of damage, or something else? Strangely I feel like it's based on poise damage. The obsidian greatsword is one of my favorite weapons and I've made several builds based around it. Whenever I use a good poise breaking weapon it seems to come off faster.
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>>121498634
>it does modifications
He thinks its the same thing.
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>>121501538

It's based on damage. The tail has its own HP.
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>>121501515
Are you retarded? Iron golem's grab attack goes through his legs because he actually puts his arm through his legs and grabs. The only thing here is a visual glitch where it didn't show the hand go through the leg because the hitbox had already connected with the player.
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>>121501515
shooting one rat triggers the boss.

the ruin sentinels hitboxes when they thrown their shields is broken, and they are 2 or 3 at the same time, its a patience test to kill them, and there is nothing to hide like in ornstein and smough

and again
>>121499430


>>121501568
fuck it's not but you can do things like first person view
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>>121501515
>You'd think a group of people passionate about a game series that is renowned for it's challenge and difficult would cry a lot less.
I think you might actually be a Bamco marketer.
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>>121501461
That enemy is not hard and it is not unfair. You people are full of crap.
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Could someone drop me dragon scales in DaS 1
These drakes are total shit.
PS3 SL 70
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>>121501017
i don't own a console
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>>121501461
the only annoying thing about them is the aoe slow when you backpedal instead of dodge. thats pretty much it
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>>121501814
>fuck it's not but you can do things like first person view
Do you even know what the fuck you're discussing any more?
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>>121500808
>rare glitch
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>be shit at pvp
>give up
>try pve instead
>be shit
>give up

i guess im just unfit for evolution
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>>121501515
>now I've posted a third.
I think they were talking about how you cherry pick things that dont happen often or aren't as big of a deal when they happen. Its okay dude, ds2 had a really shitty pve, worse than ds1 and ds1 had quite a few flaws. Before you sperge, nobody is saying ds1 is perfect, its just that ds2 really took the piss when it came to world design and hitboxes and enemies and enemy places and story and NPCs and reskinning weapons and ADP in general etc etc
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>>121501790
The knight clearly gets sucked into the grab but I guess Dark Souls 1 can get away with "visual glitches" because reasons.

>>121501814
You can kill the rats before the big one attacks you. You can kill the ruin sentinels in about 2 minutes if you're not dicking around the whole fight.

You're still blaming the game for your faults. You should stop doing that.

>>121501925
Way to add nothing to the conversation.

>>121502281
>I think they were talking about how you cherry pick things that dont happen often or aren't as big of a deal when they happen.

You just described nearly every Dark Souls 2 complaint.
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>>121502407
>The knight clearly gets sucked into the grab but I guess Dark Souls 1 can get away with "visual glitches" because reasons.
>sucked into the grab

I think you might actually be retarded.
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anyone have webms of japanese pvp?
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http://strawpoll.me/5938071
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http://strawpoll.me/5938071
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Just played DaS for the first time since the release.

So is Manus the Fertive Pigmy? If so, does that mean his soul is the Dark Soul?
If so, what does that mean if the Chosen Undead absorbed the Dark Soul AND linked the fires at the kiln of the first flame? His soul is used to power the flame is it not? Is it possible we could have started an age where fire(gods) and dark(humanity) can coexist?

Also why did Gwyn go hollow? I thought only humans go hollow? Undead is a human specific curse is it not?
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backstabs are shit, remove backstabs. Same as being parried, the health loss is ridiculous. No fun.
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>>121502407

>You can kill the rats before the big one attacks you. You can kill the ruin sentinels in about 2 minutes if you're not dicking around the whole fight.

>You're still blaming the game for your faults. You should stop doing that.

yea and you can also finish the game naked and beating everyone with your own hands
i didn't said is impossible, but the game IS made to be annoying and unfair unlike das1. The only bullshit das1 enemy is the hellkite drake, fuck him. And the bed of chaos that everyone knows about.
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>>121488234

>cut content from DeS is better than anything from DaS
Embarrassing desu
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>>121501774
Ok, thanks for the info. I'd like to see some more solid details about this but I'll just take your word for it.
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>>121502661
I think manus was just one of the Pybmy's first "Children"
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>>121502407
>Way to add nothing to the conversation.
yeah, i guess you're right. my insight of you being a Bamco employee is just as insightful as this post being made of text that I have typed with a keyboard.

>>121502407
>You just described nearly every Dark Souls 2 complaint.
that's bullshit and you know it, you marketer piece of shit. practically all the enemies in Dark Souls 2 have bad, floaty animations, they're all crammed in together, the world layout makes no fucking sense in any regard, both from a story perspective and a gameplay perspective, with bonfires being either right next to each other or after a long haul filled with a whole bunch of shitty enemy spam rooms.

Fuck off, Bamco. Don't shit up Dark Souls 3 by making it almost entirely like Bed of Chaos, like you did with 2.
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>>121502661
i know this sound like an asshole but read the wikia, see the pages of items descriptions, rings, npcs and etc, they will tell you about the lore more than anyone could do in a post here.
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>>121502661
All humans share the dark souls. The pygmy split his and perpetuated humanity. Those humanity sprites are the dark soul when its not in a vessel (a hollow).
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>>121502929
This. SOFT was the change from had to fix shit up but instead they just swapped things and changed the lighting.
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>>121502538
why would you ever want to watch that?

i remember some MLGPRO max SL everything allowed pvp video on sens rooftop.

it was the most broing shit ever
>>
3.2mil SM
sotfs pc
anyone wanna do alonne dlc boss with me?
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>>121502839

I can link you a wiki page with this information too: http://darksouls.wikidot.com/black-dragon-kalameet
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>>121502407
>You just described nearly every Dark Souls 2 complaint.
you also decided to ignore the rest of my post? Why is that? Are you going to ignore this one i wonder
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>>121495398
Nope, not atm, just go for the grant
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>>121503147
and they fucking had the gall to sell it as a seperate game. jesus

I still didn't really get an answer about how much Vitality I'd need in Dark Souls 2 for when I eventually get hit by a poorly telegraphed attack, but that's because the marketer swooped in to save face on his shitty game.
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>>121502538
heres a vid http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26952181

>>121503203
they probably weren't what he's talking about
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>>121503314
this is what ds2 fans are the best at, they also ignore webms and posts like this guy do
>>121499696
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>>121502507
That doesn't change the fact that that was clearly a bad hitbox (or as you call it a "visual glitch")

>>121502775
If Dark Souls 2 were unfair then you wouldn't be able to beat the game naked and barehanded. The whole reason you can do that is because the game is quite fair, just like Dark Souls 1.

>>121502929
The only part I somewhat agree with you on the disjointed world.

>>121503314
What part are you wanting me to address? I disagree with you saying that the games have bad PvE, but I didn't really see the need to mention it.
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>>121502929

>DS2 has strong enemy gangbang encounters

I want to say I wish this meme would end, but I'm convinced that you're actually retarded enough to believe pushovers like Syan Knights and Bastille Soldiers are hard in any way.
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>>121503476
>nico
>Have to register to watch videos
No thanks.
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>>121503476
Thanks, these always make me laugh
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>quelaag
>get her down to 25% health ez
>she does this AOE that one hits me everytime

what do

I'm running out of the purple moss and when I went human there were no summon signs besides the NPC who is shitty
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dsg right now: my slightly above average game is better than your slightly above average game!

why cant you just get along
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>>121503668
>What part are you wanting me to address?
the part where I mention ds2 has way more issues than ds1 in pve and I didn't mention this but also how youre going full damage control and cant seem to grasp that ds2 is worse than ds1 in many many many ways
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>>121503668
>>121503668
It wasn't a bad hitbox though you fucking retard. The guy was standing right between the legs, therefore he got grabbed by the grab attack that goes right between the legs. The glitch is it didn't show his hand down there, the hitbox was totally legit. I literally was fighting iron golem today and got grabbed that exact same way except it showed the full animation.
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>>121504069
That has been /dsg/ since DaS2 was announced. Most of the people lingering here in these threads just while away their time complaining about games they don't even play anymore while we wait for the next one to roll along.
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>>121504018

Focus on her body, she shudders before doing it. Also, if you have a Black Knight Shield or another shield with good stability, you might be able to survive it.
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>>121503526
> they also ignore webms and posts like this guy do
like I said earlier I didnt see any ds2 bullshit webms but I did see ds1 bullshit webms

also at the end of the day all souls games have their share of bullshit and good things
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>doing some research
>days pass
>still no idea if i prefer str or dex based build
jesus christ i hate being an indecisive cunt
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>>121504208

>the hitbox was totally legit
It's not "legit" if it's disjointed from any visible texture you fucking mouthbreather, but nice job on justifying shockwaves.
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>>121503682
way to cherry pick, as well, faggot. even then, regardless of how much health they have, the sheer numbers of them, their terrible animations, and the amount of damage they do make them fucking awful to deal with.

Get fucking mad, marketer.
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>>121504098
There's not much to say - I mentioned this already but the only thing I agree with is the world not being connected very well. I disagree with just about everything else except for adp, which I'm neutral towards.

>>121504208
So he got grabbed before he actually grabbed? How is that not bullshit?
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>>121504069
>why cant you just get along

Because as soon as From crapped out the third Souls a conspiracy was formed against one of them.
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>>121504554

"Cherry pick"
That's why you're using vague bullshit to rationalize your shitty play style instead of naming any specific scenarios, because you know you'll be called out for being the retard you are when everyone sees you crying about Syan Knights.
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>>121503668
>If Dark Souls 2 were unfair then you wouldn't be able to beat the game naked and barehanded. The whole reason you can do that is because the game is quite fair, just like Dark Souls 1.
unfair don't means impossible, you can only do something like this by exploiting the game after you already know everything, this is the same as some moments in das1, like skipping the undead burg so the hellkite drake don't kill you later, or jumping in the elevator so seath don't have to kill you.

for example, talkinga bout the bosses the ruin sentinels, i already think one of them is enough to a boss, they are already a challenge alone, there's no need for 3, but if you look at the other bosses, you can beat most of them without any effort, like the flexile sentry,Najka,the congregation etc, it have very few good bosses as pursuer, it's annoying that he appear all the time but the first time is cool,Looking Glass Knight, velstad(aka garl vinland) and darklurker, etc. The main problem is 1-grab attacks, most of them are broken with normal enemies and hitting you when they shouldn't, or not hitting you when they obviously should hit you, that is not popular in the webms but i know it also happens a lot after you leveled adp or whatever.

But the worst things for me were the npcs, they ALL sucked. They are so bland, so lifeless...

>>121504410
you never saw them in YOUR LIFE?
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>>121503225
nvm boss was as easy as fume knight
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>>121504897
The ruin sentinels are not hard and I've had very few problems with hitboxes.

I know I've been telling you to get good this whole time but it honestly does sound like you just need to get good.
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>>121503856
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>>121503476
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26952181
just as mlgtarded as our vids
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anyone got an autohotkeyscript for jump/kick attacks in DS1 to share?
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>>121504807
i don't even remember what the syan knights were

so you are pretty much cherry picking a shitty weak ass enemy, and ignoring shit like Shrine of Amana, the first two DLC areas, the trashy, over the top Gargoyles fight, and so on.
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>>121505363
They don't seem ironic
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>>121505271
>giant mother
at least they understand the concept of playing to win
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>>121505541

>Shrine of Amana
There's a single encounter that's a bother, which is right before Rhoy's Resting Place, and the rest of the level can be easily beaten through simple logic.
>first two DLC areas
Get good.
>Gargoyles
Shitty fight since there's a big chance you can encounter them too early and get swarmed.

In short, you suck at basic mob management and video games in general.
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>>121504069
>why cant you just get along
That´s against human nature.
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>>121505915
Those guys just suck, what's your point?
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>>121505363
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27139103

except they're actually good. In this one he parry swaps his whole armor set
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>>121505842
And you suck at convincing me your game is good, and stealth marketing in general.

Too bad you ain't getting that raise, Bamcoboy
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>>121506110
this is like 3 fasts smoughs at the same time
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>>121506139

>muhyazaki
Get fucked scrub.
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>>121504069
>Any souls game
>Slightly above average

What's a stellar game in your estimation?
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>>121506227
Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Again you can kill the ruin sentinels in under 2 minutes on your own, they're perfectly manageable.
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>>121505842
>and get swarmed
The gargoyles trigger based on HP, not time. It's not a DPS race fight. The boss fight is designed such that you're forced to briefly face a 3v1 every time you get close to killing a gargoyle. The low-HP gargoyle's AI changes to become less aggressive, and it mainly backs off and uses fire. The fight can obviously be steamrolled in seconds flat with a +10 strike weapon, but that's not what it was designed for.

It's also an optional boss made to be difficult because it's guarding a valuable reward. It would be asinine if it wasn't a challenging bossfight.
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>>121506241
You're doing a really poor job at trying to hide your marketer background, and that you're using the "chans lingo" to fit in AND claim superiority.

Here's a tip for your marketing, Bamcoboy: git gud xD XDXDXD pwned scrub!!11
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>>121506452
they kill you in 2 hits. they are 3. they are fast and just around. this is not okay.
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>want uchigatana
>can't bring myself to kill a npc
well shit
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>>121506505

>being this mad that you're rightfully called out on sucking shit at everything in life
Kill yourself.
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>tfw autists are getting rekt in here because they aren't allowed to leave the thread

You have to keep arguing here no matter what LOOOOOLLLLL

Guranteed replies to raise your blood pressure every day :^) xD
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>>121506434
hexen 2 was ahead of its time, stalker is incredibly atmospheric, super mario sunshine is my favorite game of all time
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>>121506625
buy from shiva

>>121506620
jump*
i think only boss that was not slow and killed you in 2 hits was artorias, and he is know for causing a lot of rage
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>>121506727
>being this mad that your job is shitposting on behalf of a badly designed game
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>>121506625
iaito is better
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around 50 is a good range for O&S summons right?
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>>121506925

>h-he's calling me out on my poor playing! B-better call him a marketer!
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>>121506979
a bit too much
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So, i heard Ingawrd is a cheeky bugged cunt on PC. If i copy and paste my save into another folder, will i be able to restore my character if he doesn't drop the key? Or is DaS' save unable to be backed, and i will have to install Cheat Engine?
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>>121506620
>they kill you in 2 hits
This is true of damn near every souls boss.

>they are 3
You face one alone, and then 2 together in a much larger area. Their combined HP pool is that of a normal boss.

They are not particularly fast enemies and all of their attacks are slow and telegraphed.
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>>121507056
>oh shit he's onto me, better say its his fault and not the game's so i can keep my job
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>>121507071
Okay, I wasn't sure how much I should level. Thanks.
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>>121506979
I'd say closer to 40 or so. A lot of players do Anor Londo at around 30ish, but I always go a little higher so I can cheese S&O with pyromancy and I still get invasions and summons.
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>>121507149
>This is true of damn near every souls boss.
nah its not,bosses that do this are always slow.

>you face one alone, and then 2 together in a much larger area.

yea, but they are fast, they jump around, they thrown their shields, and there is nothing that you can use between them and you, is just a room with nothing. ornstein and smough would be unfair shit without the pillars.
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>>121507241

Yeah, that's definitely it, I suppose that's why I agreed that the Gargoyles were a stupid boss and that the Shrine of Amana had 1 bad encounter.

Get Miyazaki's dick out of your mouth for a second so you can get enough oxygen to think properly.
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>>121506979
Honestly this >>121507407
But you'll be fine going over since by far a large group of people will over level, I get crazy traffic around 60 because Oreos and Smores are fucking assholes.

There are only two boss fights over Demons, both dark, and bloodborne that I detest fighting, those are O&S, and Royal Rat Authority. Because fuck one-hit kill Sif with poison.
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>>121507081
pls respond
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>>121507643
yeah you let your facade slip for a moment to make yourself more relatable to the demographic

too bad you're gonna get fired now for speaking ill of NAMCO BANDAI'S DARK SOULS 2 SCHOLAR OF THE FIRST SIN BUY NOW FOR DOUBLE PRICE PLEASE EDITION

THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY DARK SOULS 2: PREPARE TO DIE AND GET MEMED ON LOL U FUKKEN KIDDIE GIT GUD LOLOLOL
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>>121506625
>talk to him
>dont buy anything
>he tells you to fall off a cliff
>throw an autistic fit of rage and kill him
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>>121507669
>>121507407
wut. i always thought most ppl finish sen's around 35-40, then OnS at 40-45
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>>121504069
he's never failed for me. regardless, you could always kill him if he messes up.
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>>121508343
Well you gotta understand a meta is just the most agreed on method by the vocal part of the community.

Vocal part of the comunity is generally smaller than the non-vocal part, meaning that meta is actually in minority most cases. There is a large group of players that don't go to sites and aren't restricting themselves to any particular meta, most of these people seem to naturally end up 60~ in Anor.

As to how, don't ask me. once I'm done with my full runs I prefer doing co-op and PVP in early areas, I only bro-op in gargoyles and Queelag because most people are still at the point where they actually need help rather than just doing pitty summons, and PVP has more variety since people are still gathering gear and learning about the game.

tl;dr A lot of people don't bother with meta for one reason or another.
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making good progress on my enemy swapper table, dark souls 2 is oddly particular about how you replace enemies but it still works well
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Is there more pvp on NG or NG+/+++etc.
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>>121508018
how about you shut the fuck up about your bullshit opinions. you've been desperately trying to persuade these shits that i am a marketer for half an hour.

its bad enough you are too bad to reasonable talk about the game without getting defensive like the infantile prick that you are.
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Fight club? PC softs
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>>121509159
It's the same

You're better off going NG+ so you can fully upgrade your weapons though
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>>121509380
What? I've fully upgraded lots of weapons.
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>>121508018
>someone disagrees with me, OMG FUCKING SHILL BAMCO BOY PRAISE MIYAZAKI HALO SOULS 2 IS GARBAGE LALALALA

the autism and mad in you anon is so astounding its hilarious.
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>>121508995
i got these numbers from some guy who did some testing and he got the most action at these levels.

60 is a bit high, but 50 is not unreasonable if you dont skip most stuff before anor londo and die some times.

> Queelag
dont people just summon manly eater mildred?

>PVP has more variety since people are still gathering gear and learning about the game.
i really wanted to do pvp in the burg since it's my favourite area. but it's just so unfair, even with crap gear and no humanity
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>>121509159
>>121509380
>>121509484
Which game are we talking about, lads
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>>121509484
Stray Demon and Royal Wood are easy to get in +, if you can't be arsed to farm
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>>121509685
doesn't matter honestly, your ng cycle doesn't effect pvp in either game
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>>121509817
I was referring more to the upgrading of weapons. There's some pretty big differences between one's ability to upgrade weapons at the end of a Game cycle and the beginning.
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>>121509597
>i got these numbers from some guy who did some testing
Sounds sketchy at best.
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>>121509685
>>121509801
>>121509817
playing DaS2 here senpai
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>>121509817
what is gravelording
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>>121510063
rhetorical or honest question?
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>>121510041
well in that case i guess you'd wanna stay at the end of whatever ng cycle you're on in dark souls 1 so you can farm the kiln knights. for 2 i can't really see a difference since so you get so many upgrade materials

>>121510063
i think i've only been gravelorded once and that was way back on the ps3 before ptde was a thing
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>>121510047
better than nothing

>>121510063
i dont know.
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>make lvl 60 PvP character
>invasions every 10 seconds in anor londo and painted world
>today can't get a single fight

are thursdays pvp days or something?
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>>121443530
How the fuck has no one mentioned the rolling cats yet
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>>121509817
doesnt cycle in ds2 affect your crit damage?
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>>121510434
I mean, you can just hide in the trees so they're not THAT annoying. but without the trees definitely.
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>>121510063
To be fair doesn't the gravelord phantom effect only show up in PvE content in NG+ but you can still see gravelord signs in NG and pvp in that regard
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>>121443530
other players
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>>121443530
Anor Londo archers by far. Died more times to them than any other method.
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>>121510390
>better than nothing
But is it, really?
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>>121510584
i've heard something along those lines but i'm not sure if it's true. if there actually is something like that it's probably a glitch tied to your fps instead of ng cycle
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>>121510063
that covenant where you ge a cool sword then farm basilisks for 10000 hours to get some cool spells you'll never use
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bleed infused forlorn sword for coop. yay or nay?
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>>121510802
you only get one miracle (Greatsword) from leveling up, the other stuff is free
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>>121443530
>DeS,
the jailers in latria probably

DaS,
skeleton dogs

DaS2.
the hammer guys in amana and these lightning-shitters in old iron king dlc
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>>121510939
Scales horribly.
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>>121510939
nay, unless your plan is to black crystal before you kill the boss, since that'll restore your humanity and waste your scaling

it's pretty much only for red signs and the arena
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>>121510939
Nay.
Forlorn weapons lose all of their scaling when you're human, that includes all the bonus bleed scaling.
Bleed infusion mostly gives bonus bleed scaling
Successfully co-oping restores your humanity every time.


Unless you plan to go get yourself cursed twice after every successful co-op, you will do fuck all for damage and never bleed anything.
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>>121510939
>for coop
just use whatever
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>>121511284
why doesn't solaire reverse hollowing when you co-op with him?
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Why are big weapons always shit in the Souls games? The only time they've been "good" has been in Bloodborne. Even in DaS3 the fucking longsword is already a fucking top tier meta weapon, and it isn't even day 0 yet.

Souls games like to reference Berserk a lot but the big sword gameplay itself is always fucking shit. At least Bloodborne didn't pretend it wasn't just Dexfag Builds: The Game. It sucks that you kind of HAVE to conform to the meta in these games if you want to survive the PvP just a little bit. Dark Souls 2 was the worst of them all.
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>>121509134

Have you tested this in NG, fresh start? I'd imagine the early game would be really difficult.
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Anybody 72-110 able to help me with Seath's tail?
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>>121511534
booting up my megadrive now
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I've been playing ds after ds2 and I can't get used to the fucking roll. I seem to roll to early all the time. What the fuck man
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>>121511449
>Dark Souls 2 was the worst of them all.
what? in ds2, there were at least some decent big weapons/useful attacks. in ds1 the vast majority of them were fucking awful and only good for backstabbing
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>>121511449
>HAVE to conform to the meta

unless your build is totally shit the difference is ultimately marginal and will come down to luck/counter hits.
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>>121511449
Dark souls 3 balance is very, very far from finished and the longsword was completely overrated. People favoured it because it was easy to use, but the running attack was even worse than the DaS2 version, the R1 tracking was dogshit compared to previous games and it lost every good thrust attack. Everyone had 0 poise, low defense and low HP and no idea what they were doing, so R1-mashing was the meta.

The UGS in the net test was incredibly strong. The axe was buggy shit, the legion scimitars had a great moveset but did 0 damage and the mace had all of the same problems it had in DaS2.
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>>121511449
roll and backstep attack is what saved them in das1
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>>121511707
iframes start up instantly at the very beginning of your roll, last a set duration and then expire, leaving the rest of your roll vulnerable. Agility increases the duration of the iframes covering your roll at fixed breakpoints. I think the first one is 88
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>>121510584
>>121510740

It used to, it's fixed now.
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>>121511449
>Dark Souls 2 was the worst
Nah, DaS was worst. I had good fights with the dragonkeeper greataxein DaS II, unlike in DaS we¡here I got backstabbed everytime
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>>121509267
none? fc pc? we had a good one ;ast time! bully the jalini?
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Is it worth trying to kill old king doran if I'm probably not going to bother with new game plus?
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>>121501179
>mindless things
you mean sapient things? I assume that you refer to bosses like Quelaag and O&S
>>121501432
something like that, yes
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>>121511797
>ds1 the vast majority of them were fucking awful and only good for backstabbing
This. "heavy' weapons in DaS1 amounted to rolling attack spam with a buffed greatclub, backstab fishing with a buffed crystal greatclub + hornet ring, parryfishing with a buffed crystal greatclub + hornet ring, or being literal shit at the game and mashing R1 with le bass cannon.

If you actually managed to lose to a large weapon because it hit you in DaS1, you were the lowest dogshit. In the entire 3 large weapon classes there was a single decent attack in the greatclub's 2H rolling attack. Everything else was unusable trash.
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/dsg/, I have a question about DaS1:

Is it EVER worth is to upgrade a Greatshield for the bash attack, or are they 100% useless? As I understand it, upgrading a tower shield doesn't increase the stability
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>>121511469
depending on what enemies you use at the start it can be incredibly difficult yes.
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>>121512305
want fight club, anyone with host?
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>>121509267
Are you offering to host?
I can get on and join in like 10 minutes if there's anybody else interested
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what the fuck where are my nodes?

I've been standing here for almost 10 minutes and nothing yet. Should I restart?
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>>121512076
when was it fixed?
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>>121511934
>the longsword was completely overrated
The fuck?
It did MORE backstab/riposte damage than the greatsword, enough to take out 4/5ths of an invader's health
It had the DaS1 moveset but with the DaS2 WRs, with godly tracking
Its charged r2s did 400 on people
Its battle arts swiftly broke shields and the long range thrust was absurd
In co-op two people mashing r1 could infinite stunlock anyone

You underestimate the mace, too.
Using the super armor + damage reduction art and then slamming people was crazy good.
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>>121512659
My char has 2.6m sm. I cant host, I really want a fc though, it was so fun last ime ;_;
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>>121512587
It depends on the specific shield whether or not the stability increases. Some do some don't. I personally find the shield bash worthless so I never upgraded /for/ that, but I definitely did for the increased stability.
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c'mon you faggots. lets get a fc on
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>>121512587
Yes the tower shield increases in stability, hence greatshields always worth reinforcing for PvE. No parry is a big no no for PvP obviously.
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>>121512063
>ds after ds2
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>>121512587

The bash attack is useless except on the pierce shield, it does very little damage and poise damage for its speed. Greatshields get more stability through upgrades though.

>>121512808

Around the time when they removed the NG/NG+ multiplayer barrier.
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>>121512365
Depends on how masochistic you are
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how do I git gud

played over a thousand hours in DaS1&2 and still get my shit wrecked every other fight
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FIGHT CLUB, c'mon lads, we can all have a laugh in FIGHT CLUB.
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Why are my Ds2 screen shots not saving so I can paste them?

Its saying screen captured, but cant find the file anywhere.
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3mil SM SOTFS PC the ice dlc, put signs pls
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>>121511934
Wasn't it the shortsword and not the longsword that was in the stress test?
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>>121513365
Game? Platform? Sl/Sm?
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dont have warmth but skinwah at blue cath for fight club
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People who know their history, redpill me:

Is the way your character holds a Greatshield accurate, or not? It looks super-goofy to me. The way your character's hand is positioned, horizontal, and overhand, looks like it would be uncomfortable, AND bad at keeping a secure grip when people are waling on you
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>>121512828
>charged R2s
Every weapon's charged R2 did fuckhuge damage. Nobody got hit by them unless you were literal trash
If you strafed to the shield-hand, the weapon-art L2 would whiff to your side and offer a free backstab
Most of the weapons could infinitely stunlock with 2 players, including the mace, spear, axe, etc.

Its problems were that the WD attack was just a slower version of the DaS2 WD with longer recovery (long enough to make it punishable and a very weak pressure tool) and the R1s lost the tracking that made them ridiculously good. In DaS2 you could completely lock down your space by mashing R1, because it had enough speed and tracking to catch anybody rolling near you. It meant that they were forced to back off out of your reach or eat damage. Straightswords were one of the few weapons that could do that and completely shut down counteraggression. It also lost all of its thrust attacks, which were the other thing that made them good.
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>>121513703
>>121513859
sotfs pc,
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>>121513859
SM, platform?
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>>121513917
No.
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>>121514195
I've never seen this one! Let me help you out.

Artorias' armor in it's original state looks so fucking baller, it's amazing
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Did I do alright in making an acceptable female guys?
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no signs for FIGHT CLUB, lads?
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>>121513917
the way characters hold regular shields is retarded.

they usually have one handle and your character holds it with one hand.
in real life they would be like this
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>>121514359
I can't really pick a character until I know the SM range, anon.
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>>121514297
No, as in
>the grip is inaccurate
or no, as in
>you're wrong to say the grip is inaccurate
?
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>>121514359
I am 1-2m, and was gonna summon all. Unless the last dude that done this wants to take over.
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>>121514498
that's wrong as well. Infantrymen usually held shields that weren't strapped to their arm, they would hold it in a single grip, with the hand oriented as in your pic -- this helped keep range of places the shield could reach (and therefore guard) as flexible as possible.

Strapping the shield to your arm was something that soldiers on horseback did
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>>121514546
As in the grip is inaccurate.
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FC PUNKS, LET'S GET IT OOOOOOON!
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>>121514498
>in real life they would be like this
>A handle and a strap

Nope, thats basically only good for comfort. With it strapped to your hand you cant freely move it around. You can't easily parry attacks outside of your core, leaving you exposed as fuck. For instance, fucker tries to cut your legs, you have to reach way down to get the shield in the way, leaving your head wide open in the interim. The best setup for a shield is one handle straight in the middle, allowing you to maneuver it out really far from your center and parry blows from all over the place.
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>>121515095
Spamming the board does not increase anyone's desire to play with you.
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>>121514828
>>121515258
try holding a shield with just one hand against someone really smacking you with a hunk of metal

It's not the easiest thing to keep a hold of
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>>121514709
What god ring?
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WHY YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT DARK SOULS BUT NOT PLAYING DARK SOULS? DS2 FC , SAME AS BEFORE.

>>121515446
You will understand one day m8.
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>>121515472
>It's not the easiest thing to keep a hold of

It's not no, but its better to work hard holding a shield than get your legs cut off after you couldn't get the shield where you needed it because it was rigidly strapped to one arm.
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>>121513917
It would be fine if the shield in question wasn't a 2-ton slab of rock.
Greatshields are pointless outside of phalanxes.
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What's worse? Soul Memory? Or being invaded by SL10 Dickwraith twinks with +15 weapon and +10 armour?

How do we solve twinks without shitting on the game with Soul Memory?
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>>121515472
Heavy shields were only ever really used as siege or cover tools. A buckler was designed to withstand the force of someone smacking you with a hunk of metal and provide all those IRL ripostes
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>>121515696
I am playing dark souls
the one without shit mechanics like soul memory
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>>121515791
>What's worse?

Soul Memory. I can deal with twinks, they're a momentary nuisance. Even if they win they won't be able to invade me again for a while. Soul memory actively punishes you for a variety of behaviors. It more or less puts a lifetime on a build unless you build it in a way you'll never want to change.
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>>121515472
that's why the goal of a shield isn't to tank the hit like you're fucking Iron Tarkus, dummy

You let the attack roll of the shield, so that your enemy gets thrown off balance and you can get a swing in

You aren't becoming a wall, you're placing a piece of metal in between you and the opponent that makes their attacks fail and simultaneously go off-balance.

Having a single, vertical grip makes this EASIER, since it allows for a natural axis of rotation about your palm.

You can also do other cool shit with this setup.
See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhpqAGdZPc
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>>121516013
M8, I like all 3 souls. Fuck off. DS2 is best for online.
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>>121515791
>How do we solve twinks without shitting on the game with Soul Memory?

We don't. At the very least we'd have to use SM up to a certain point, but even then I'm sure people would find a way around it or find a way to cheese people at the lowest end of SL-based matchmaking. BB's system only encouraged people to twink harder, I'm not sure how I feel about its likely inclusion in DaS3.
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I don't understand how the phantom shit works. How come Solaire appears normally in your world, but he appears as a phantom in fights? I thought phantoms were being summoned from other worlds.
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>>121515791
>implying that twinks are something that needs to be solved
In all of Miyazaki's games, the only time you can ever get invaded is if you do something to make the game dramatically easier on yourself. Invaders are used as a form of punishment for doing this, twinks are intended design
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Wait a second, is the meat cleaver better than the dragon bone smasher for PvE? According to my equipment screen, the meat cleaver does 367 damage while the DBS does 339. I'm kinda bummed that I evidently wasted a shitload of points into strength.
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>>121516352
The different worlds are separate, yet they occasionally touch. When they touch, the owners of the different worlds perceive each other as "real" people, as opposed to the phantoms that they'd normally see
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>>121516646
DBS is all about fire resistance, IIRC.
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>>121516352
Solaire/other NPCs are still technically phantoms, just visible and stagnant in your world for aesthetic's sake.
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>>121439530
Hello guys i'm really freaking out over here i had 2 characters pretty well advanced on my PS4 version and I just logged in after about 3 months of not playing and they have been deleted, the game is even making me accept the EULA again.... what do? I'm really sad about my chars...
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>>121516843
Actually, I just ran to 4-1 to test it and the DBS still outdamages MC against Blue Eyed Mr. Skeltal. I'm going to run to 2-2 and test it on the bugbears, worms, and generally everything that shits on physical damage at that point.
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>>121516514
>twinks are intended design
No, twink are emergent, you are a tard.
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>>121516174
That's specifically viking shields in the video.
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>>121516646

Doesn't the Meat Cleaver do split damage?
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>>121517000
Keep damage resistances and weakness in mind. Skellymans are gonna eat shit to blunt damage.
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>>121515696
Sign's down. Are we using a god ring?
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>>121517153
Yes, and?

The tactics won't suddenly change if they aren't. The point is noticing all the advantages that are granted by using a shield that isn't strapped to your arm.

Reminder that this type of grip was standard for infantrymen shields, basically until the widespread use of full plate sets
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>>121515791
>How do we solve twinks without shitting on the game with Soul Memory?
since youre supposed to have a summon when being invaded, it's not so bad imo.

i'd probably lower base damage of things across the board and increase the scaling. then +15 weapons and asc. pyro flame arent that op anymore.
and probably change the way defenses work to be less retarded.
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>>121516514
>twinks are intended design

I remember there being an interview where Miyazaki or someone from the dev team said they didn't even think of people going through the game as low levels.
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>>121517235
DBS apparently does normal damage rather than blunt though. Scale miners still taking more damage from DBS than MC, will test on BBs and worms in a second.
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>>121517397
My point exactly, DaS has extensive use of plate sets.
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>>121516352
Solaire basically explains it. With the fabric of space/time totally fucked worlds can shift and overlap. Solaire's world happens to have overlapped with yours, and he exists in yours as well as his. That's why he mentions not knowing "how much longer your world and mine will remain in contact" when he gives you the soapstone. Any moment the tenuous link will fade and he'll disappear from your world.
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>>121517438
>they didn't even think of people going through the game as low levels

Of course not, that's why Allant can de-level you :^)
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>>121516514
>twinks are intended design

Nah, people being dickish is part of the intended design. Twinks were an unexpected form of dickishness for the design team.
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>>121511449
Claymore was one of the best weapons in the game in DS1.
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>>121482662
>>121516746
Her eyes are weird.
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So I've got about 8 hours into Dark Souls and I just managed to kill the bell gargoyles. I had to use a polearm.
I'm a knight. Got anything I should consider? I know you're supposed to go into these games blind but there are some things that would fucking suck to mess up.
Like should I bother raising endurance enough to roll in the knight armor?
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>>121517635
You kinda missed his point. The use of shields didn't change with the advent of plate, they mostly disappeared for those who had it. You don't need a shield when your whole arm is covered in metal anyway.
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>>121517635
At which point there's basically no point in using this type of standard shield, since all the advantages in tankiness that such a grip would yield, are conveyed in greater magnitudes by grabbing a Greatshield.

If you're not using a shield that's blocking literally all of your body at once, it's worth it to have a grip that lets you do things like reach down so that your shield covers your legs, or throws an enemy strike off balance.

Using a standard shield with a strapped grip is basically just using a greatshield that's inferior to a greatshield in every possible way
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>>121517930
shields still have their uses, though.

For one, it fucking hurts to take a blow to the arm, even if it doesn't slice it off or snap the bone in half. Just because you can "safely" tank the hit doesn't mean that it's a pleasant experience.

Two, shields are good at throwing your enemy off-balance by redirecting strikes, and controlling the momentum of the encounter.

Three, they stop projectiles pretty well
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>>121517674
So basically if you save Solaire and coop with him for the Gwyn fight, Solaire links the fire in his own world. Solaire is also the Chosen Undead? That's cool .
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>>121517930
blunt weapons were used extensively against plate armor
>>121517849
take off clothes until you can fast roll
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>>121517816
Almost as if she´s blind
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I'm guessing at this point the FC is a wash. I've just been getting summoned by randoms.
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Why are Crystal Greatswords considered a cheater's weapon?
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>>121518361
who would've guessed?
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>>121517849
Rolling will get you through almost any attack without taking damage.
You can´t roll you´re fucked.
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>>121517849
You should never fat roll. At least get mid roll, so your equip load should be <50% of your max weight.
If you don't want to put a lot of points in endurance, go find Havel's Ring.
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>>121517339
name? can't see?
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>>121516646
Meat Cleaver is better only if you have an ungodly 50/50/50/50 build, because of its triple high scaling and how good it is with insanity Light Weapon.
Otherwise DBS with cursed weapon takes the cake every time.

Also, no, you don't waste points on STR until 50+. You could stop at 34 STR and only two hand shit, but that's boring and DBS has a good 1h moveset.
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>>121517849
You can block/tank/run up close and mash R1 with most enemies in the game with decent armour and endurance, probably recommended for a first playthrough. Make sure you're at least midrolling though, you'll get fucked by all kinds of AoE if fat,
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>>121498268
>nostalgia for a four year game

Also you always post that webm. DS2 had alot of hitbox problems. The one in your webm was confirmed to be a glitch they never had time to fix.
It's shitty they never fixed it but unlike DS2 they never said why the hitboxes were shit
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>>121499964
The fire fades, The lords have no thrones and only men remain.

The Abyss is finally upon us
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>>121519060
Whats the story of DaS2 because I wasn't paying attention
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>boss called the Royal Rat Authority
>is a dog
???
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>>121519550
You are looking for a cure but easily get sidetracked into bullshit
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>>121519605
He's an authority in the royal rat hegemony, obviously. He isn't himself a royal rat.
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Still waiting at blue cath, FC 2m sm+
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>>121518878
i don't know why people still argue about this. all of the souls games have hitbox problem (inb4 "but dark soolez 2 was badder"
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>>121519918
Well for me I am not arguing about it. I know Dark souls has issues and I have not played Dark Souls 2 yet cause the false advertising turned me away from it. I plan to get it soon cause it's only 20 bucks for SOTFS
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>>121519918
but dark soolez 2 was badder
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Why are all the optional bosses in DaS1 (aside from DLC) so piss easy?

I've never died to Gwyndolin, Gaping Dragon, Stray Demon or Priscilla
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>>121520105
Where? On Steam its like $55 CAD
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>>121520105
it's actually a really good game despite the 10 or people here who constantly talk shit about it. there are problems with it for sure but that's true for every game
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>>121519881
lads, we had a good fight club last week. Where are the ones? wew, need more fc lads
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>>121519550
You show up in Drangleic looking for a way to cure the curse.

The herald tells you to go and seek the king instead, and for some reason you agree to do so.

You go and kill the 4 most powerful, ancient creatures in Drangleic because their souls are the only way to open the gate to Drangleic Castle (clambering over some chest-high rocks is too hard). That or grinding hard enough to grind out 1M SM on NG.

Once you're in Drangleic Castle, you find out that the King's not home. You've got to journey through the castle and out the back door, in search of where he went.

You find him in a tomb for the Undead, where they can rest forever, despite their curse. This was apparently built by Nito back in DaS1, but you just never saw it. You kill Vendrick's chief fuccboi consort, and finally encounter the King. Vendrick is here because he knew he was cursed, and so came here to hide his most valuable possession, his ring. Hollow, he himself is of no use to you, but you take the ring.

It turns out that the King stole the Kiln of the First Flame from a race of giants, at the behest of his secret golddigger of a wife, Nashandra, who is a piece of the reincarnated soul of Manus, and covets the Kiln's absolute power. The giants got pissed and #rekt Drangleic, and Vendrick caught wise to his wife's schemes. So he fucked off the the Tomb so that the Queen could never gain access to the Kiln with his ring.

His Ring unlocks the door to the Kiln. Problem: the Kiln is separated by an impenetrable 30ft gap, which can only be crossed by animating a bunch of magic golems into forming a bridge (as opposed to simply jumping across them, I suppose). Anyway, the golems can only be animated by a key that the long-dead Giant Lord had. This is obviously an issue.

Luckily, you snag an artifact from the artificially-created Ancient Dragon, made by Vendrick's crazy scientist brother Aldia. You use it to teleport back to the past where you grab the Giant key (continued)
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>>121520214
I lost over 100K of souls because of Gwyndolin. He headshot chained me with his arrows when I got clipped.
>>121520324
Amazon for 360

>>121520384
I was told that if I enjoyed the single player of DS1 then I would enjoy DS2 and I also found out that I could recreate my build in DS2 with my outfit and everything.
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>>121520384
This. DS2 is fairly flawed in ways, and its kind of a knock-off piece of shit, but that said, the worst Souls game is still a damn good game.
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>>121519605
>a huge mangy rat
>looks like a dog
???
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>>121520489
>>121519550
Finally, you go up to the Kiln and Nashandra tries to murder you. Apparently her master plan was for you to get the Giant's Key, so she could steal it from you and take the Kiln for herself. Apparently she forgot that the process of doing so would make you the most powerful creature in existence, and that she wouldn't have a prayer of winning a 1v1 fight against you. So after you 1shot her like literally every other player ever, you take your seat in the Kiln, where the Herald suddenly reveals that this is what lets you cure the curse, which is what you were originally after anyway. Why exactly she didn't hand you this info up-front, I don't know
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>>121520606
at the very least, it doesnt' have 4fags as a boss.
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>>121520606
>Better gameplay
>kind of a knock-off piece of shit
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>>121520565
pretty much, they don't really play differently at all, and the end-game dlc areas are incredibly well done

>>121520606
playing an actual knock off piece of shit gave me a whole new appreciation for the souls series as a whole
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>>121521025
That's the only better part of it though. It made some nice strides in the gameplay department that make it pretty damn fun to play, which is the primary reason I still like it. The story and level design are cobbled together messes from the cutting room floor and none of the NPCs have much depth, but that gameplay's pretty good.
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>>121520484
My bf just said I was shit at banter and to never say 'lads', 'wew' again. Prick. hAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DS CUNT. fuck sorry for caps, I am blogging. don care. Why does no one like the emerald herald, she a cutie?
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>>121521025
what are you defining as gameplay

dark souls 2 has a tighter combat system and connectivity, but nobody can say the world and experience is anywhere near as engaging and immersive as the first, and I say that as someone who has 3 times the hours in 2 over 1
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>>121520774
Neat. Thanks anon.
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>>121521267
Hey I said it was KIND OF a knock-off piece of shit. Also you could tell from the gameplay trailers that Lords of the Fallen wasn't on the same level as real Souls. The actual fighting was so much more stodgy and crap. And that teen-angst tryhard art style, holy shit.
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>>121520774
I never realized the giants had the Kiln.

Thank you for that. Why did the giants have it?
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>>121521514
>Why does no one like the emerald herald

Because she has no redeeming traits. She's bland with no character or development, no good lore surrounding her, no good interaction, no nothing. She doesn't even say anything if you kill her, no memorable last words, she just falls over.
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>>121521542
i remember my first dark souls 2 playthrough pretty vividly because of how outlandish and dreamlike (in a good way) the setting was. i don't really know how to describe but dark souls 2 managed to tap the explorer in me

>>121521790
i'm especially salty because lords of the fallen has cool bo staff like weapons, which i've wanted since demon's souls. that one pro doesnt outweigh literally everything else about the game
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>tfw everyone agrees BB was a disaster and 3 is the saIvation

lt was an obvious faiIure on aII parts but 3 is Iooking pretty good.
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>>121522056
She is mysterious, did you nog get that? Every point you make is intentional.
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>>121521505
>The story and level design are cobbled together messes from the cutting room floor and none of the NPCs have much depth

True enough, but I never really cared about story in Souls outside of DeS, and that's just because I really like the idea of warriors from all over walking into the fog to stop the apocalypse. For me Souls is all about making a billion different builds and fucking around in PvE, and Dark Souls 2 delivers on that front.

That being said, I'm currently playing through DaS1 again because all of the games are pretty damn good.

>>121521542
>what are you defining as gameplay

The way the game plays. I don't have to worry about world masters healing me because I can do it myself, I can be invaded at any time, I can play with friends without hassle, I can sit down at a bonfire and make myself a drink and not worry about coming back to an invasion, I can powerstance, I can 2hand my off-hand weapon, magic seems more diverse, and there's a bunch of other stuff that all adds up to what is, for me, a more fun game to play. Dark Souls 2 accommodates my dicking around to practically no end.
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>>121521947
No idea, they just did
>>121522632
>no, it's OK! They were merely PRETENDING to be bad at writing characters!
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>>121522847
i thought lucatiel, benhart and vengarl were pretty cool
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>>121522847
>This mad

LOOOOOLLLLLLLL
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>>121521947
He stole something from the giants and that could be the kiln. cause it´s kinda big.
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>>121504438
Strength weapons all feel the same. Dex / quality weapons are more fun.
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>>121522847
I liked her, with my dick.

>>121523039
Good taste, as a scot hearing bernhart was nice. An actual decent accent. I was in love with him the moment he spoke.
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>iron keep
>invade
>go to bow for a polite duel
>asshole throws forbidden sun
Without so much as a fucking wave, What happened to etiquette?
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>>121523061
fuck off, really, fuck off. We try to have decent conversations here. 'LOOOOL' is not part of a conversation you litttle prick.
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>>121523739
Turns out some people don´t like it when try to kill them
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>>121523510
>I was in love with him the moment he spoke.

Me too actually. Old Benny was my favorite NPC in two. He was crazy fun to listen to.
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>>121523739
Are you actually retarded? Get your helper to reply.
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>>121524342
Whats retarded about liking polite invasions?

just because you want to kill someone doesn't mean you should be a dick.
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>>121523910
>fuck off
>reaIIy
>fuck off
>you IittIe prick

>Being this mad

LOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL
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>>121524098
so what, invasions are canon

generally speaking even most story progressing players will fight an invader
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>>121524098
This. You invade my game with your only purpose being killing me, why would I ever treat you nicely?
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>>121524504
In a "real," non-FC invasion, it's really stupid to have any sort of expectations for the hosts' conduct. Assume that they are going to be as scummy as possible since they're assuming that YOU'RE going to be as scummy as possible -- you are invading them, after all
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>>121524717
And that´s what he did isn´t it?
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>>121524327
That was near to my first introduction to ds. Was fighting hollows and then, fug! another Scotsman!! It is fucking rare, I'll tell you. It meant a lot. Then you see that the game is britaboo, everyone is a brit or irish (british islands)
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>>121524924
Domhnall of Zena being valley Welsh is hilarious.
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>>121524504
Nothing, I would wave. But don't expect someone to be nice when you are being a cunt. Are you seriously so daft you cant see that?
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>tfw you backstab every emoting redditshit memer even in duels
fuck you stop wasting time you fucking memers
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>>121524601
I just couldn't imagine a grown man acting like you have, now I see you twist things. Tumblr pls go.
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>>121514356
i want her boipucci
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>>121513859
I think I just invaded you. How'd the fc go?
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>>121525812
I was snoozing, but if it was skinwah you did.. FC never happened. Put a sign down! I want a rematch!
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>>121525383
>not using Dark Hand to take away 10 humanity and then backstabbing them
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hey bae nigas r8 and give ideas
i'm not sure what colors should i make the hp and the stamina, any idea senpaitachi?
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>>121526079
Sure. I'll throw the sign at the top of the bridge. Set your god-ring to Quella.
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>>121527012
just went back to BoB areana and don't have the ring, coming back in 2 mins. Do I need the ring to see your sign? not bought it yet?
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>>121519605
Translation team fucked up.
RRA and RRV's names are reversed. Vanguard is the big one, Authority is the small one.

Interestingly enough, the code name for rats in original Dark Souls is "Inunezumi", which is literally "Dograt", so it seems some swing more towards dog and others more towards rat. The other option is, of course, that it was never supposed to be a Rat boss and we can give thanks to Shibuya as usual.
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>>121525415
>pIs go

no
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>>121527248
Yeah you'll need to grab the god ring to see it. It's useful because it prevents complete randoms from picking up my sign, and ensures that we can connect to one another even if we'd normally be out of SM range (my SM is only 1.6mil)
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>>121527265
What the fuck was Shibuya even doing? It's like he was doing the same thing that Kojima ended up doing in MGS5, only Namco caught wise and put an end to it
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>>121526923
senpaitachi senpaitachi senpai reply pls
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>>121527265
It's not even that they swapped the name, the tranbslation is blatantly wrong. Royal Rat Vanguard is "The Rat King's Vanguard" and Royal Rat Authority is "The Rat King's Test." How test/challenge became "authority" I have no idea.
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>>121527272
Fair enough, lets forget about hate and enjoy ourselves. Me and >>121527012
will be having fights soon. Join us.

>>121527404
My SM is only 1.6 too. Are you Beavis, I mught be Butthead.
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>>121522632
No, m8. She's bland as all hell because they had to entirely rewrite her character thanks to losing the time travel plot.

She's presented as being mysterious in order to deflect all the questions about her that they were no longer able to answer.
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>>121527605
2 mins anon, need to go outside to smoke... :/ will come to cath with ring soon
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>>121527556
Why are you even fighting the Vanguard if the Authority was the test?
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>>121527809
Vanguard protects the rat king, while the ratdog is a challenge you must overcome to earn an audience. That would be my assumption, at least.
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how to beat artorias pls

his tracking combo hit is ridiculous
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>>121527947
Yeah, but there's no reason to fight if you're a ratbro, yet he's still a boss
>>121527981
literally just git gud, the fight has no gimmicks or tricks. It's 100% learning his timings and combos
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>>121526923
>>121527534

guys tell me what you think about it
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>>121526923
the item icons look very bizarre and clash with the game's aesthetic. The humanity icon is OK, though
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>>121526923
You're making these bad on purpose now, right?
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>>121528461
thanks but i want to do something different
it's something like hte icon when you cast a miracle you know?
i'm probably going to remove the white thingy in the middle of the icon, black or nothing should be better.
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>>121527981
You can dodge all hhis attacks by simply rolling to the side.
You don´t even need to switch the side you roll to.
Just roll right all the time.
If he´s lost a bunch of health he will double jump back and start to power up. Hit and stagger him before he finishes, else he will explode ans buff himself.
If he knees he charges his overhead jump, dodge that by walking towards hima dn then rolling towards him. Heal of get a bunch of free hits or just scratch your balls after he lands.

It´s really just a matter of timing your rolls.
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>>121528681
maybe. The menus icons in DaS generally have a very dark color palette, and so making the icons be a huge mess of white on the screen doesn't fit
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>>121526923

The HP and stamina meters look really good. The rest is kinda bad.

>i'm not sure what colors should i make the hp and the stamina

Red & Green? The colours you have here are fine too.
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>>121527404
you still here? I changed to my main but still only 2.6m sm
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>>121529534
Still here, but 2.6mil will put you out of range of this character. Hold on and I'll switch to another character that should be in range
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>>121528931
sign at bottom, Jalini

>>121529714
I forgot how little it takes to be out of range at this level :S
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>>121529823
>>121529714
will go back to other if you have none. Just wanted to win one and I am sure I can with Jalini. Also, don't bully the Jalini pls
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So I own a PS4 and have since last Christmas. I haven't bought Bloodborne yet because I didn't like the aesthetic and I hate the fact that there is no build variety whatsoever.

I'm still willing to give it a try if I can find it used for cheap. What would you guys pay for Bloodborne? What did it improve on over Souls? I like that it looks faster. That's about it. Redpill me.
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>>121528931
i know i don't think on messing with the menu. i changed the background to black, is it decent now?

>>121529217
thanks m8
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>>121530119
Sorry gimme a sec, I have a character in range but they don't have the cathedral unlocked.

It'll just be a few minutes to get things ready
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>>121530601
wanna co-op before I repeatedly murder you?
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>>121530576
much better. That's about all you can do with the circular design -- it fundamentally clashes with the rectangular, brick-like aesthetic of the other menus in the game.

That being said, it looks pretty good
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>>121530576
Meh. Circles are weird
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>>121530746
thanks
i'm thinking on doing covenant/character themed huds or something
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>>121530734
>>121530601
Alright, sorry for the wait. Sign is down
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>>121531084
Sounds fun
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>>121531239
no bully WAVE
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>>121531532
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>>121527981
upgrade a silver knight shield and tank the attacks
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>>121532027
Artorias is easy to dodge. I beat him on my first try.
All of his attacks except one are very obviously telegraphed. The only one that might catch you off guard is the one where he does a spin as he jumps backwards, and it barely does any damage.
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Is it just me, or are the secrets in DaS2 WAY, WAY less intuitive than the ones in DaS1? Opening the door to Vendrick's Crown is some old-school adventure game tier bullshit. In DaS1, even the notoriously counter-intuitive return to the Asylum / Painted World secrets have clear hints for the player
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>>121532027
tanking Artorias is harder than dodging his attacks
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>>121532501
What was the hint for the painted world? I didn't even know that you needed the doll to get in until my third playthrough where I forgot to return to the asylum. I had to wiki it.
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>>121532501
What hints are there that you need a doll to go into Painted World?
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>>121532501
The goal behind secrets in both games is to be counterintuitive. Miyazaki mentioned in an interview he'd made the secrets in DaS1 as elaborate and well hidden as they were because he wanted to encourage the sharing of information such as using the message system or having people share findings online in communities. An experience that he claimed to closely mirror his own with some old-school RPGs he enjoyed.

The fact that there are doors that only open when human or hollow is no more obtuse than the fact that a pair of illusory walls inside a hidden area in the corner of a giant poison swamp leads down a tree trunk into the ancient land of dragons where you can join a covenant and breathe fire.
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>tfw 20K away from being able to use Sunlight Blade
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>>121531815
you will need to summon me, I hate being hollow and you keep winning! Will put my sign where yours was
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>>121532697
the hint is on the Doll's description. Like basically every other key item in the game (save Lautrec's key), it's description tells you exactly where to use it
>key item
>mentions being drawn into a cold and lonely painted world
fastforward to Anor Londo
>see room with a giant painting
>painting can be interacted with
>says NEEDS KEY if you don't have the doll
>is guarded by a bunch of guys who are labeled the "painting guardians"
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>>121532740
The description for the doll tells you whoever had it held it tightly as they were pulled into the painted world
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For the love of god, someone help me chop Seath's tail

It's like pulling my own teeth trying to do this on an int character who gets one-shot by the tail swipe
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>>121532867
I love sunlight blade
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>>121532949
Sure thing. I'm just going to swap characters really quick. I'll pick up your sign in a moment.
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>>121533061
Its the only reason I point points into faith
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>>121532820
The difference is that the "random" secrets in DeS and DaS were designed to be able to be spoiled with a message -- you can fully communicate where an illusory wall is just by writing down "illusory wall ahead." Any secret that's more complex than that has a hint.

That doesn't hold true for DaS2. For a lot of these secrets you'd need a team of guys writing messages one after the other

>implying that the hidden walls to the Great Hollow are hidden
literally need to do nothing more than explore the swamp in the direction opposite to Quelaag to find them
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>>121532954
If you interact with it without the doll it says"Contraption does not move"
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>>121533457
yes, I phrased that poorly. I should have said
>KEY ITEM REQUIRED
as a summary for the message, because that's the meaning behind what you wrote
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>>121533237
I also like lightning spears for PvE
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I heard that LGK can summon players on you when in NG on SotFS. is this true?
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>>121533691
Yes
spam your red sign every 5 seconds or spend a cracked red eye orb and hope LGK grabs you instead of you just invading a random schmuck
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>>121533798
fucking great. My biggest complaint with that fight was that he only spawned AI on NG. Glad to hear that they fixed it
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>>121514035
sm
where
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>warpick/demon spear/leo ring

Why is this build so good
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>>121534000
blue cath, come watch me lose!
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>>121514353
reminds me of Saber from that chinese cartoon Fate/Zero
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>>121534362
because the Lucerne is better
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i changed some colors
i love killing petrus btw
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>>121534000
>>121534553
2m+

no host yet though
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>>121534556
I've heard that Fate is complete garbage. Is this true?
>>121534647
looks pretty good. Also Petrus is a cunt who deserves death
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So I just finished Scholar of the First Sin. Man, I just don't get how people can give DS2 so much shit. It's fantastic.
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>beat Executioner's Chariot first go on my NG+
thank god for that, I died a few times in NG and the run back sucks.

Sunlight Spear really owns bosses.
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>>121534930
Have you played DS1 or DeS?
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>>121534930
>Man, I just don't get how people can give DS2 so much shit. It's fantastic.

It's the same 3 faggots bitching because they suck at the game. Look at every other site and every review on the web.

Faggots here can't handle anything not on the Nintender Wee. This is just autism general lol don't take these scrubs seriously.
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>>121534647
>try killing petrus at the beginning of the game then cleansing sin when I got to the pardoner
>kill him
>pardon myself
>rhea is mad
>can't fix it
whoops
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>>121534647
Rhea up in the humanity icon still looks bad.
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>>121534000
SM range tba (somewhere around 2mil, I need to double-check)

Blue Cathedral, put signs at the landing before the boss fog

Set god ring to quella

pc/sofs
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>>121534930
I don't hate it, but it was disappointing when compared to playing through DaS1 for the first (few) times
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How active is the community on pc for DS2:stfs ? I just picked it up after not playing it since launch on consoles x years ago.
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>>121535285
update:
actual SM range is 1.75mil to 9mil

Get those signs down, it's FC time.
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>>121534930
>I just finished Scholar of the First Sin.

Did you expect the people that disliked vanilla would spend more money on a game they didn't like in order to play the remix?
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>>121534930
This is IiteraIIy the onIy pIace that doesn't Iike the game but if you read the posts it's because they're buttfrustrated that they can't button mash through the game.
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>>121535495
Pretty active, nonstop action on Iron Keep Bridge, semi decent invasions elsewhere and summon signs are around for most hard bosses.
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>>121535102
>>121535643
You're trying too hard.
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>>121535643
>This is IiteraIIy the onIy pIace that doesn't Iike the game
what are you on about, ds2 was widely criticized on release and still is. there's a reason nearly as many people still play the first game
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>>121535849
Don't you have 4 Kings to shitpost about, shitposter-kun
>>
>>121535871
Less than half as many you retarded kek. I'd beat the shit out of your pozzed up ass as punishment for faggotry, but you'd probably enjoy it you masochistic cumdump.
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>>121534930
I don't remember why I hated it. It's been so long.
>>
Is anyone else having trouble connecting to anyone in DaS?

I've been sitting in townshit for like 20 minutes at SL104. Haven't been able to invade anybody, and nobody has even attempted to invade me.

Same goes for my low level invader in the Parish. This has been happening for days, even though I was getting consistent invasions before.

Any idea if it's something on my end?
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>>121536086
epic
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>>121535497
c'mon folks, take it from Jalini 'never won one'. It's fun
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>>121535808
thats pretty good to hear, ill reinstall and start when I get the chance
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>>121535920
Tone it down.
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>>121535193
but rhea is the best waifu
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>>121536086
DaS
>2200 in game
DaSII
>2300 in game

sure is half in here
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>>121536378
Add DaS2 and it's 2/3 as many
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>>121536523
>less than half as many

Make up your mind
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>>121536378
>Demon's Souls had ~120 players during the Please Come Back event

sad
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>>121536737
It was when I checked earlier today

I don't need to explain myself to you I'm in charge here
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this is my first playthrough

rate my shitty character

just got to Sen Fortress
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>>121536794
It has never dropped below half you lying shitebag
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>>121536915
>raw
>fatroll
otherwise it's decent
get havel's ring and FaP ring
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>>121536931
You were asleep, it can't be helped
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What should I know for a SL 1 run?

any tips? going pyro probably

>>121536915
>raw
That's not gonna scale, if you have 99 strength or 20 it's still gonna do the same damage

That blue tearstone is also pretty useless, try havels or ring of FaP

Other than that not terrible
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I can't find the bottomless box on the undead merchant in the undead burg. What's the deal?
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>>121537038
>>121537206
>Rolling
Not a thing I do

shield usually takes any damage

Any way to revert Raw on the weapon? Description said it still scaled just not as much
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>>121537287
it's not in the key items tab? quit and reload
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>>121537206
Chaos weapon
estus +3
FaP
get gud
>>121537339
rolling is 10,000 times better than blocking I promise. You're getting close to the point of inescapable AoE attacks for fatrolling
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>>121536915
Never go Raw
Knight Shield should've been outclassed by a few other medium shields by now. It's not a big deal but it's kinda heavy.
Otherwise you're alright
Pick up some more Attunement slots so you can get more out of miracles.
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>>121537339
talk to andre under the "modify weapon" tab, you can revert it to +5 from there
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>>121537370
Just started playing again so I'll check and see if that fixed it. Also I just unlocked the other area that sells it so I'll check there too.

So many god damn long swords...
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pc sotfs fc, still need host
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>>121533358
Door ahead therefore try human. etc

You can actually communicate fairly complex information with the expanded message system in DaS2. It's one of the best improvements in that game, aside from all the "but hole" messages which really aren't any worse than "sticky white stuff" and "amazing chest ahead"
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>>121536915
>raw
You fucked up
Raw is a useless dead-end upgrade path

>>121537339
It's true, it only decreases scaling by about 13% most of the time, but it stops at +5, ending much weaker than a fully upgraded weapon
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>>121537627
amazing chest ahead was the perfect comedic relief after O&S and one of the most memorable parts of the game for me.
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>>121537339
Yeah you should probably get used to rolling at least for bosses, Quelaag must have been a pain

after Sen's the next boss will require some rolling

You can revert weapons, just talk to andre and choose the ascend option I believe

>>121537449
I was thinking lightning hand axe and chaos reinforced club with FaP and red tearstone, any armor pyromancies? I was probably gonna go dusk crown great combustion and whatever lightroll I could get
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>>121537449
>FaP
Bad advice
DWGR or red tearstone
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>774 replies
wtf family?

new thread

>>121537881


>>121537881
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>>121537835
you want iron flesh for 4kings
and fastroll for every other boss
the game is easy until O&S and even then they're not that hard.
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>>121535643
that is the biggest crock of shit i have ever heard in this general. holy shit.
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Alright I've run out of weapons so I'm going to call it here, Jalini.

gg
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>>121537449
Shit really?

Is there any way to get the fast/mid roll without removing all my armour?

>>121537501
>>121537515
>>121537727
Reverted it, thanks

>>121537835
I summoned some guy with a Katana and she aggro-ed on him the whole time for some reason
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>>121537772
I first saw it before Quelaag on my initial blind playthrough. And I laughed for way way too long after I walked through the fog and saw the boss. It's probably my favorite of the frequently used humorous messages in the souls series. Though I always got a good giggle out of "sticky white stuff" too, because I have the mind of a child.
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>>121537501
I've only found the Spider and Eagle shield
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>>121534731
will 3.3mil work
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>>121539747
An hour ago it would have been fine, it is done now though m8. A resounding victory for Jalini.
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