Phantasy Star Online 2 General #874

Why were the damage sim links removed from the OP?

>>121276453
Ugh, I didn't even notice. The last guy probably cut them to get the field under the character limit, probably so he could fit "REAL HUMAN JEAN EDITION" in there

▶️ Sim
Skill Tree: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php
Affix: http://srpgp.supersanctuary.net/dudu/
Damage: http://4rt.info/psod/

>>121276674
I have no idea how to use damage calculator

>>121278223
What's got you stumped?

>People back to anga farming runs in EQ

fuck this shit

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>Doing EQs
>4 cross bursts
>rares droping left and right, got at least 20 drop alerts
>managed to pick up a few while spaming Sonic Arrows everywhere
>burst ends
>only one rare on the ground

Fuck you too game

>>121279192
Whatever for? Ares isn't even top dog anymore.

Sooooo does anyone actually play this game?

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>>121279828
Nope, everyone is a mentally ill ERP fag.

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>>121279969

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>>121279828

I need help with multi element mastery Te as sub tree.

We should be able to do EQs on demand. Not totally without restrictions, or anything (capsules or passes or something?), but we shouldn't be completely beholden to the schedule.

>>121282267
AVADA KAFAGGA

>>121282704
You would still be on a schedule because if there's some kind of time gating you'll still see a huge number of people who don't have time to do them before 11 other people have already finished for the week.

>>121283080
Actually you wouldn't. We already have full ships during scheduled EQs so anywhere during Japan time you should have plenty of people, even around 1-2AM you should still have enough, that's not accounting for gaijins.

Another good thing is that it would stop the timer chasing because you can do X EQs more. It would help people in smaller teams immensely since they can just do them in half empty states most of the time since it will just take them longer for the same drops, and it will probably be more fun.

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Jesus this is just sad.

>>121283524
few individuals post from their phones, using mobile data to bypass bans
and also very well known that few individuals use vpn/proxy to post

>>121283524
Congrats, you found the thread metrics list. This is actually pretty good for being this early in the thread. Your contribution is appreciated dipshit


>>121283462
This would still put an unnecessary onus on smaller groups or solo players to pub shitters throughout the week from places like B1
>inb4 shit 2

The main problem is that neither solution is perfect, far from it, but the current implementation is the most "fair" for the largest number of players.

>>121283670
I wouldn't be surprised if it was just 3 people bumping until more people show up.

>>121283998
What if we make it some kind of team thing

>>121282704
Alright, so how do you suppose the capsule/pass/token system should work?

>>121283998
It's so fair that I am missing all of my PDs except for weekends when I can do one and only if I stay up late.

Daily limits would be way better since you are assured to be able to complete them during the same hours scheduled EQs take place. On top of that it will make running EQs in smaller groups or solo useful. You don't need to carry anyone.

Anyone that can honestly say he is not missing any important scheduled events can also say he will always have someone to do daily limit EQs with.

What if we have EQs a 'Per Day' and 'Per week' limit that gets decided on maint and let you do them whenever you want?

Stuff like profound would be only be doable once in a day

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>>121284452
No. If your weak body can't beat a few microbes then you deserve to die.

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>>121283998
>you found the thread metrics list. This is actually pretty good for being this early in the thread. Your contribution is appreciated.

You sound a bit mad there son.
Here take a Quna, everyone knows how you get when you don't get your daily dose.

>>121284452
Who are you?
Are you on my friends list

>>121284719
But anon, I'm suffering.

>>121284719
Gettemhart fuck off. You are literally getting your ass kicked every day and running away while saying that you were just holding back for the fight to be good.

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>>121284764
Please do not snark with my waifu

>>121284390
That would honestly be the worst system unless LEADER PAYS is an option, at which point you're stockpiling passes for 11 other people. Yes I know you might not need 12 people, but if we're talking about a workable solution that works fairly across the entire population, then it should be an idea conceived around that notion.


>>121284569
>My personal inconvenience is representative of the entire community

desu baka senpai

>false equivalency of "the tryhard-est are fine either way"

And what about people who have schedules that sometimes allow for a well timed EQ, but would absolutely not be available either when dailies reset or early enough that a group they might otherwise run with are already done, thus scrambling to fill an mpa of 12 instead of a party of 4?

>>121284881
>Gettemhart

It's Guntram you retard.

>>121285251
It's Gettemhult.

>>121285054
I don't know feasible it is at this point but the game really needs a way to resume a session after getting disconnected, within reason. Grace period of a minute or something.

>>121285054
>desu baka senpai
My schedule is normal enough for a lot of my timezone to qualify.
>And what about people who have schedules that sometimes allow for a well timed EQ, but would absolutely not be available either when dailies reset or early enough that a group they might otherwise run with are already done, thus scrambling to fill an mpa of 12 instead of a party of 4?
Guess what? On boosted PDs we have entire ships full. You can't just say that everyone will do their stuff on daily resets when not everyone might even want to stay up to 0AM in Japland. Dailies are also much faster to do (the important ones) than running 30 minutes of an EQ.

Just look at any game with daily quest limits, there isn't some super special hour to run them. Even after midnight you get to find groups in games much deader than PSO2 without as many NEETs.

If Sega really wants to avoid concentrating the playerbase during one hour then they can put the reset around 4-5AM. And doing a day's worth of EQs should take longer than dailies.

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>>121285676
>for a lot of my timezone to qualify.

Is that a Japanese timezone? Because if not I'm not reading the rest of your post.

>>121285635
This I would agree with wholeheartedly for Boss EQs that lock out new joins after the event is initiated. Would be a bit pointless for point-based EQs, but it really does suck getting completely buttfucked because of a connection hiccup.

>>121286057
>Is that a Japanese timezone? Because if not I'm not reading the rest of your post.
Are you retarded? If you wanted argue about the Japanese majority and not the big gaijin minorities then why even bother? Almost any Japanese person without gaijin-like schedule will be able to find an MPA for them.

>>121284814
I'm probably not in your fl.
Name's N*passes out*

>>121286541
I'm not retarded, I'm just wondering why you would expect SEGA to change a system that works effectively for Japanese players in a game that, by ToS, can only be played by Japanese IPs would go out of their way to implement a new system for foreign players who while no longer actively banned are not supported users.

I think you just need to git gud at your schedule if you wanna roll wit the big dawgs

>>121286561
>N

If you are who i think you are then i will not be visiting, sorry

>>121279828

I joined literally yesterday, having more fun than might be legal. All the "rares" dropping is super weird to me still though, a big shock compared to PSO.

Outside of cash-shop bullshit this game actually does a lot of cool stuff, like the mixing of single and multi-party zones. I'm sure I'll turn super sour like most of you soon but for now I'm loving the ride.

>>121287182
I'm 85% sure that's nishitzono

>>121286892
Except it still disallows one thing: smaller groups of 4-5 players getting to do their EQs however they want and still get the same rewards which is the important part for me.

>>121279828
no we all play bns but post here about summoner

>>121287728
Smaller groups have a wealth of other options, from SHAQs to CM. If your complaint is not being able to do the exact content you want, exactly when you want it, when it's not an issue for so many other players since ships are filling entirely for EQs, I wouldn't hold my breath.

>dat qt in rum you are too afraid to talk to

halp

>>121288478
who are you?

>>121288563
not smu

>dat qt no longer visits rum and you are too scared to talk to
hapl

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Good afternoon cuties.

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>>121288478
>Being afraid to talk to to a boy on the internet

Suck it up and tell them to ride your baloney pony

is there any point to playing pso2es

seems like a pretty shitty game

>>121287530
Dead wrooong

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>>121288636
that back bench is grosser than sticking one's dick into a dead pig carcass infested with every known STD.

>>121284965
poor Quna
I do hope they put her in the anime
and dudu

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>>121288736
>>121279828

here is your reply

reply.

Either my character is so ugly no one wants to erp with it or erp is a lie

>>121289017
sophia you need to quit stirring up your bullshit drama as always. fuck off already.

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>>121289017
That's why I have her on my friends list and we still do stuff without needing to be subjected to thirsty creeps

>>121289126
Stop that

>>121289017
>Posting that garbage
That thing you are posting is nothing compared to the real cutie they drove off.
The real cute can cold on the outside to avoid cancer, but is the cutest and heartwarming living thing I have ever met.

>>121288392
Ok thanks for letting me do some side content.
>when it's not an issue for so many other players since ships are filling entirely for EQs
Nice argument. Ships are filling entirely for a few EQs and then become pretty empty. I don't see how showing that the game is 95% about timed EQs when you argue whether the game shouldn't be 95% about timed EQs is doing you any good.

>>121289406
*be cold
fml

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>>121289017
>>121289356
>she
>her

>>121289443
I don't need to do "good" or anything because I have yet to miss a single Invasion, ToT or PD. Your obsession with reworking the system to accommodate you and your friends is just funny to me. If you can't be bothered to fit it into your schedule, you don't deserve to run it :^)

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>>121289281
erp is real

even JP's erp, pic related

>>121289017
>generic twintails loli
>cute
ok.

>>121289740
name 1 redrum cuter

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>>121289689
this level 1 faggot with no subclass still and has about 150m in accessories and another 100m in dances standing around the lobby just to dance in people's faces.

>>121289740
Psst, this is /vg/, everyone's standards are below here.

>>121289661
Ok then fuck off. I guess I wanted to actually discuss some video games with someone who isn't a fag posting the shitpost face when he sees his argument is a lost cause.
>implying I want to run these precious no drops EQs
All I want is for Sega to make running content with a group of friends more viable. Nowadays it's 12/12 or bust on most. Not many teams can allow themselves to get regular full MPAs on any EQs.

>>121289819
Hey, he was in my MPA, no units on with that evil TMG potential 1, ele20 (dark) he bought it from npc shop.

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>>121289918
Did it ever occur to you that maybe you're playing the wrong game if you want to twist and mangle it just to get what you personally consider fun out of it?

I was posting plenty with other people about actual, potentially viable ways it could be done, but your sense of entitlement and indignation at not having your little name calling hissy fit taken seriously is just too good.

>>121290027
>Evil TMG
This is the absolute worst next to Evil TD isn't it? I don't get why people buy weapons with potentials that actively lower your DPS

>>121290389
Oh ok you totally are noble warrior of viable ways of improving the system while I am trying to burn it all down just for my personal benefit while half of my argument was how it wouldn't harm anyone to change it.

I guess I am just entitled because I want to have something fixed which would make the game more fun for me and people in similar situation while not harming anyone else.

>>121289793
>please namedrop
Haha, no.
All I can say is 90% of the redrum.

>>121290605
>fun for me and people in similar situation

aka not Japanese aka never a priority to SEGA so not worth hypothesizing.

>while not harming anyone else.

I already outlined how a capsule system could hurt other people who otherwise have no problem hopping in to scheduled EQs. Good to know you're not even reading my posts when I'm bothering to reply.

>>121289793
Gavenger

>>121290874
>aka not Japanese aka never a priority to SEGA so not worth hypothesizing.
There are no Japanese players who want to have fun with a group of friends only.
>I already outlined how a capsule system could hurt other people who otherwise have no problem hopping in to scheduled EQs. Good to know you're not even reading my posts when I'm bothering to reply.
And I already replied to them, then you started uh, doing some ad hominem I guess and saying that if the many players play scheduled EQs there is nothing wrong with them? Funnily enough the ones with greatest populations are also the ones in weekends where timezones or work hours are much less of a problem and I was there.

>>121289079
She's in the key visual so at the very least we'll get lines recycled from the game

>>121290389
>This is the absolute worst next to Evil TD isn't it? I don't get why people buy weapons with potentials that actively lower your DPS
Evil TD was fixed. Damage no longer drains your gear.

>>121289793
closet

>>121291175
>There are no Japanese players who want to have fun with a group of friends only.

A majority of JP teams 12 or larger already do that. They coordinate sekrit mpas. Did you know there are actually like 20 or so all JP teams on shit 2 that just don't leave their team room unless they're going to the mission counter? And that's not even counting Vita-only teams.

>Aile will never bake you a cake every morning
Please be my waifu

>>121291510
>Closet
>Cute

lol

>>121291719
gorillas can't operate ovens

>>121291742
his butt at least

>>121291671
I would hardly call that a group of friend. What about those playing with 3-4 friends? Do they not exist? Or are some silly legendary JP teams not being able to move out of their team rooms so much more popular.

Just because there are sikrit ignition/redroom/ship4 MPAs nobody would want to play with the 3 other guys left only during an EQ at a shit hour? That would be fun just because of the gameplay differences and we get deterred from it thanks to the timed nature of EQs and more runs = better on most of them.

>>121292292
Name any other MMO that scales down its "Endgame" content to accommodate fewer people being present? That provides no incentive to actually run the content as intended.

>>121292292
>lumping ship 4 in with the ship 2 sekrit mpa crowd
ship 4 isn't autistic like ship 2 when it comes to playing with certain people

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all this talk about ENDGAME and dying.

can someone point me in the direction of a game that has the most robust endgame you've ever seen, non stop content, and basically a game nobody has ever been able to leave because its so damn good? Please enlighten me.

who can i pm to join EDF or whatever the team is now? or should i just go to the redroom? block 42?

>>121292853
It's not scaling down. It's just a change to the format. You see when you fight PD or even Luther as long as you defeat them before the time limit you don't lose anything unless you are alt running, it might've been harder and even more risky if you are shit but you get the same reward for more work and they don't increase the faster you kill it.

Now try to put it in TD1-3. Even if you work really hard for your S rank it ought to be slower. You get less runs and it means way less rares.

The problem isn't scaling down, the problem is scaling rewards up so much the faster you do something.

And Vindictus was very friendly to that and soloing.
>>121293175
Vindictus had some pretty great endgame if you were into bossfights but Nexon slapped the turbo grind and p2w on and everyone left after breaking their weapons trying to meet ever increasing attack requirements.

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>>121293175
Farmville

>>121293460
Which ship?

>>121293496
>Vindictus

We're in pso2g famiglia, not /ded games general/. I know it can be hard to tell the difference with all the memeing

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>>121293175
>>121293520
But PSO DOES have end game content.

>>121293756
>famiglia
Just let it happen, senpai

>>121293585
2

i used to be on 4 but it was always dead as fuck in the team when i was on
i used to be in the one on ship 2 but inactivity

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>>121293915
I bet you haven't even set foot into Tier 3 Foreplay you scrub.

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What if there was a special mode where you get to play as bosses? What do you think it would be like? And am I the only one here who would want to play as Falz Hunar and Cougar NX?

>>121292292
Not the anon you were arguing with but if you have a group of 3-4 friends, what's so bad about pubbing it? I do that a lot of time with friends when there's no organized MPA

>>121294541
AIS only even more underwhelming and with even fewer abilities.

>>121294364
I think Gavenger is on right now, but you have to go to redrum on b31 to get recruited so might as well go there.

>>121294720
>bosses have less abilities, attacks and mechanics than an AIS

Is this bait? Falz Hunar has better versions of HU and FI abilities. All they would have to do is make a version suited towards players and not the AI. And most of the mech bosses have alternate forms with extra abilities. I miss the times where SEGA would have bosses fight each other, though. Those events were rad as hell.

>tfw there will never be a campaign for darkers because WE ARE ARKS

>>121294541
No, where the fuck is my boss rush mode?

I know there are tons of bosses in the game now, but if vita loading is a problem, then they could just split it into 2 missions: one for minibosses and one for field bosses. Maybe even one with the Falzes (in hunar form and EQ form with decreased HP) on top of that.

>>121295301
And an AIS is a modified combination fo Hu/Ra and it still winds up being the most bland thing in any EQ after doing it once or twice.

>>121295407
That's not exactly a widely held opinion

>>121295376
>boss rush

That would be fine too, only if it's more challenging. And it's gotta be a game mode with decent rewards.

>>121295407
>HU is boring

Well you're not wrong. But having a mode where players fight each other as Boss VS ARKS might be cool if done right. Bosses would have to be heavily modified up to the point where you can play and control them just as you would with your normal characters. There would be limitations of course, but it wouldn't be the worst idea if executed properly with decent rewards.

Or we can just introduce a story mode where we get to play as the enemies for once because I WANT TO GO ON A PEACEFUL PROTEST WITH THE DARKERS

>>121292893
It used to be, but you werent there.

Why can't we get the mothership EQ more often
Leveling is so slow at level 60

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>>121295863

>>121296173
i'll believe when i see it

Skele-tan, i demand that we talk right now.

>>121297002
Take it to skype faglord.

>>121296604
Magatsu 2 was made into an AIS thing mainly because players wanted more opportunities to use AIS after the third mining base

>>121297002
fuck off meido

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>>121297002
>Skelememe pats himself on the back for keeping his bullshit out of the thread
>Not 24 hours go by before it's used as a personal paging service.

Any of you who thought he would change are dumber than he is.

>>121297002
>>121297231
>Skype
>not using discord
Fucking PLEBS

>>121297885
These dumb fucking posts aren't skele's doing though.

>>121298045
retards will believe anything~

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>>121298045
"If you need me, just namedrop in pso2g. I'm always there waiting to be mentioned to get my boipussy wet" - Skele-tan, 20-always

Is there a list or video somewhere that collates what each weapon does?

I've noticed that knuckles have a parry or short term block\dodge whereas partizan has a sustained block for instance. I can't seem to find a compiled list of what makes each weapon unique except for an outdated video for only the first handful of weapons.

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Less stupid more Qona

>>121298340
is there a difference?

>>121298306
Are you asking for the use of each weapon or what it's unique thing is?

>>121298451

Mainly what's unique about every weapon, I figure that'd cover all the differences between their blocks, also things like wired lance tends to have a lot of grapple PA's, partizan is good at building pp, etc.

I can't seem to find an up to date list of this stuff but it's information that everyone seems to know as I've read bits and pieces here and there.

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>>121298431
At least Qona's cute, hateful circle jerk posting is 100% boring and pointless

>>121298912
>At least Qona's cute
That subjective, glad you have fun with it

>>121298912
cuter than her in-game

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>>121299068
Would you rather some lo cause we can do that too.

CIRNO
UPDATE YOUR SHIT SITE
YOU DONGERFACE

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>>121299360
>almost 2016
>cirnopedia still a thing

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>>121299360
>Last update
>July

>>121299360
>>121299495
I abandoned the site ever since the updates began to dwindle.

>>121299690
I`LL DWINDLE YOUR BUTT
AT LEAST PASS THE SITE TO SOMEONE WHO CARES

>>121298224
LOL the internet is so amazing for making stuff like this gif exist.

>>121299862
learn to use swiki scrub, no one cares

>>121299863
glad you enjoyed it, skele-tan

We had a good run. Goodbye pso2g, here comes the 404.

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>>121298340
Quna is so cool

>>121301798
she sounds so sexy in her battle suit

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Poll Time!

>Hours played?

>size of friends list? (online only)

>matter board completion up to?

>>121303745
>Hours Played
roughly 2,300 across all characters

>Friends list
58, 19 online

>Matter board

3-7 complete

>>121303745
Around 1,000.

0 that I actually know who they are and talk to them.

Complete.

>>121303745
>Hours played
6800~

>Friends online currently
21

>Matterboard
1-6, not in much of a rush since ep 1 is a slog and maybe half of ep 3.

>>121303745
15k hours
18 online
100%, twice

>>121303745
Nearly 4k across three chars
Always full, usually in the teens for people on
Abandoned for a while, went back to it the other day and am on 2-6 right now.

>>121303745

>Hours played?
4766:27

>size of friends list? (online only)
157, 134 offline/23 online

>matter board completion up to?
3-5, i keep forgetting to do it.

>>121303745
Around 6000

15, 3 online

complete

>>121303745
400
1
Cleared all MBs but not 100% completion

>>121303745
4000~

30-50~ online most of the time

3-7

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>>121298306
>>121298884
I'll make one, just for you, aibou

>Knuckles
Gear gauge inccreases the speed of your attacks/PAs as opposed to their power, dodging will not reset gear, allowing you to keep your momentum going. With the skill Knuckle Gear boost, you gain double the gear from attacking. Great for fighting bosses on the ground

>Double Saber
Shift action summons a whirlwind around you that deals damage to any enemy that is near you. Has no defensive options naturally, but with the skill DS Wind Parrying, you gain the ability to parry with your shift action (obv). Fighter's main mobbing weapon.

>Twin Daggers
Gain gear not by attacking enemies, but by staying in the air. Any action that makes you rise higher into the air, including jumping, will increase your gear gauge. At full gear, you gain a whopping 1.5x damage bonus. Touching the ground or being knocked back will reset your gear gauge. Shift action is a spin with amazing parry frames, and the skill TD Spin Move allows you to move in any direction with your spin. A few PA's and even normal attacks also have parry windows if timed right. Great for fighting areial bosses or bosses that jump all over the place.

>Sword
Can hold guard, gear levels increase damage and charge speed of your PA's. Great for mobbing, has really good AOE PA's.

>Partizan
Gear gauge is filled by holding guard or doing the spin animation after a normal attack or PA. Using a PA will decrease your gear gauge by one bar. Great for bossing, mainly because of Vol Graptor

>Wired lance
Build gear by hitting things, grapple PAs decrease gear gauge by 1 bar in exchange for increased power.

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Going to bed.
Good night everyone.

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>>121305076
Katana
>Gauge increases when you hit things. Shift action is a guard that can be held , but if you Just Guard an attack while at full gear, you gain a temporary powerup which you will see as a purple aura surrounding you. Has several chargeable PAs that have to be released at the right time to do the most damage. This is pretty easy to get a hang of after you've used the weapon for a day. the Br skill Katana Combat basically turns you into Vergil for 20 seconds. If you click the skill again after activation, you release a n AOE finisher that increases in damage based on how many hits you got during KC.

>Dual Blades
Build gear by hitting things and use the shift action with at least 1 bar of gear to throw photon blades at an enemy. The Bouncer skill Photon Blade Fever and its related skills let you throw an increased amount of photon blades that do more damage than normal. This can be spammed for incredibly high single-target DPS.

>Assault Rifle
Shoot things. As a ranged weapon, headshots do extra damage and also proc weak hit advance. Can load special bullets with skills, including Weak Bullet, which increases damage to the point it is applied on by 2.5x. Good single target damage, not that good for mobbing outside of End Attract

>Launcher
Slow, but does big damage and its PA's have good AOE. Basically the sword of R-Atk weapons. Has a few special bullets of its own (Jellen Bullet and Bind Bullet), but they are next to useless compared to Weak Bullet

>Twin Machineguns
Ranged weapon that is designed like a melee weapon. Shift action is a flip that can be done in any direction other than forward and has tons of i-frames. Has a few PAs that do striking damage, but still scale off of R-Atk. The Gunner skill Zero Range advance gives you a damage bonus for using shooting attacks/PAs at close range, and several of the TMG PAs benefit from this. Good for bossing, mainly because of the Chain Trigger skill.

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>>121305452
>Bullet Bow
Best weapon for bossing in the game. Has the PAs Chase Arrow; which shoots arrows into a void which converge on an enemy once they get hit by a PA, and Banish Arrow, which sets a bomb on an enemy which explodes for 1.2x the damage said enemy takes from the last PA it got hit by. The two skills can be combined for insane single target damage that can allow you to one shot any boss in the game that isn't a falz. Also has the skill Rapid Shoot, which increases the amount of arrows you shoot with your normal attack.

>Gunslash
Hybrid melee/Ranged weapon. Shift action swaps between sword mode and gun mode. Its PAs deal both melee and ranged damage. Pretty good for bossing.

>Rod
Use it to cast techs. The Force skill Charge Escape lets you keep your charge when you use Mirage Escape while charging a tech. The skill Rod Keep allowe you to use your stored tech at no PP cost. Not much else to say here

>Talis
Throw a card in front of you and use it to cast techs at a distance. While Rods are better for casting techs that can be free-aimed or fired in front of you, talises excel at using techs that would normally be unsafe due to their close range. This makes it great for crowd control, especially with zondeel (lightning tech that sucks in enemies). The skill Talis Tech bonus gives you a 20% damage bonus for casting techs using a thrown talis, but this does not apply to compound techniques because they are casted from you and not your talis. Rods are preferred for compounds for this reason

>Wand
A melee-tech weapon. Hitting things with your wand with full gear causes elemental explosions. The skill Wand Lovers gives you max gear all the time, but changes your Mirage Escape to a standard step. The skill Wand Reactor takes a portion of your wand's T-atk and adds it to your S-atk. Good for mobbing.

(3/4)

>>121305620
>2.4 years playtime
>game recently celebrated third anniversary

s-senpai....

>>121305452
I've found piercing shot to be somewhat good for mobbing

>>121303745
7k
122, 20
3-1

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>>121305713
>Jet Boots
Another melee-tech weapon, and one of the of the more unique weapons in the game. Can double jump, and has its own PAs that it can use along with techs. With Jet Boots Gear, charge any tech to change your boots' element to the tech's element. All of its PAs have a "second phase" that you can use by pressing shift while using the PA. Also has the skill Elemental Burst, which creates an elemental AOE explosion that does a bit of damage, but is mainly used for procing status. The skill Rapid Boost increases the speed of your attacks and PAs and charge speed of techs. If you want, you can also go S-atk boots with the skill switch strike, which makes JB attacks and PAs scale from S-atk instead of R-atk once activated. Great for mobbing because of moment gale and zondeel.

>>121305838
Some people never log, it's not that they're actually playing the entire time.

is it worth it to go 13* BR/RA now instead of 11*/12* Bow RA/BR yet? Is the 10% main class weapons bonus enough to offset the difference?

>>121305838
did you forget they didnt wipe data from open beta?

>>121305713
>Banish Arrow, which sets a bomb on an enemy which explodes for 1.2x the damage said enemy takes from the last PA it got hit by
Not really, you get a 3 second window from when you first dealt damage after planting the arrow, sort of like vol graptor. If I remember correctly it's only 1.2x if you charge it, too.

>>121306643
Open beta was like less than a month long, dude.

>>121306903
No.

It's 1x damage, charging only makes it bigger. It's 1.3x because JA works on it.

>>121306342
>>121305713
>>121305452
>>121305076

Thanks a lot for the effort man, that's what I was looking for. I've saved your post just in case any future newfriends ask for the info.

PS: Nice to see rares from PSO put into this game, look forward to getting my hands on some.

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>>121308252
where's the cute blonde? i dont see her...

>>121308252
Who's that hot blonde in the BG?

Skele-tan, i demand that we talk right now.

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>>121308515
>>121308607
STOP WITH THE CUTE BLONDES

>You chose shit2

>>121308815
where is she though?

>>121308815
POST CUTE BLONDES PLEASE

Why is this community so determined to destroy itself

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>>121309058
Here you go

>>121308874
>almost chose ship 2 but character creation was blocked at the time
>went to 6 instead
dodged a bullet there

>>121309058
>>121309168
THIS CUTE BLONDE WAS FOUND PLAYING NEOPETS WITH A 5S TABLET WITHOUT FLICT AFFIXED

AS YOU KNOW THIS IS A VIOLATION OF WESTERN HEMISPHERE LAWS & ETIQUETTE AND CARRIES A PUNISHMENT OF DEATH

THE SENTENCE SHALL BE CARRIED OUT IMMEDIATELY WITH MY 5S SUMMONER BATON WITH PERFECTLY COST-EFFECTIVE AFFIXES, THE PROBABILITY OF TRANSFERRING THEM SUCCESSFULLY WAS A MERE .428, BUT MY VICTORY IS GUARANTEED

DON'T GET MAD JUST BECAUSE HE LOST

>>121309175
not even blond that's gold imitation

>>121305076
You should note that Partizan gear increases damage by 10% and increases PA range.
Also has better AOE PAs than Sword. Less damage for mobbing though.

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>>121309171
It's all part of her divine judgement. You heathen ignored the lessons she tried to teach you, and as a result this community will end up destroying itself. However, those who follow her highness's teachings will be spared.

>>121313109
she tried to teach nothing but to attentionwhore and "lol im not stupid umad xd"

>>121303745
4000
0
100%

Would they change the class level stat boost titles to the next level cap when it comes out? It says "75" right now.

No way I'm leveling all these shitty classes again.

>>121308874
And i have yet to regret it, been fun and made plenty of friends

>>121317126
it's a title for reaching a given level, no reason to change the title. maybe they'll add additional boosts eventually, but what you've got is unlikely be going anywhere.

>>121309171
Shhhh shhh shhh let the retards and redroom self-destruct

How to get that Astral soul?
and what is good affix now

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>>121308874
i play for fun though. vid related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqks0h1Ta_8

you cant just sit inside all day being some nolife tryhard at some weeb game for your whole life. as for me, im too busy pulling bitches to worry about shit like grinding or rankings. i know your mad because no friends but im sure if you tried to go out sometime you could make a few maybe maybe. as for getting pussy well lets just say you have better chance of triple austere drop LOL

>https://youtu.be/6Q3_52t8eFI?t=1m12s
>summoner

>>121318856
don't forget if you don't meet someones clique or people complain enough about you that you cant run with them or certain groups

>>121319194
Go away Sophia.

Fuck off spicey

Post people who you want to leave the redroom.
Mondo

>>121319326
go aways mags
>>121319338
solus

>>121319329

Fuck me Spicey*

Fixed

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>>121319326
typical response

>>121319392
>mags
what reason do you think its him?

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>>121309171
>Why is this community so determined to destroy itself?

It's because its irresponsibly filled with grown adult sociopaths who want to be 12 year old girls. These people are beyond the point of saving, these are people who only care about improving their social standing by alienating others. They're so afraid of others not liking them they make sure that everyone's hate is directed to someone else. These people day in and day out search for new ways to try and ruin the community with drama and other bullshit.

They're notorious for also coming up with strange rules in which no one else really follows and claim they have true meaning until a sufficient number of people believe him/her.

Example:

>2012
>Be sexy/cute or be ignored

Make a lisa/npc clone

>2013
>Ta's time or block


>2014
>40+ or blacklist

Just buy one

>2015
>people still claim that 5+(150+ atk) slot unit = skill but that's incorrect.

Currently you can purchase units in the end with prem.


The only way that has been evaluated to show the most accuracy of skill has been ta's and boss kill times; however, people have always avoided it because they found it too "difficult".
Sega holds tourneys for both sides and live streams that consistently, but many don't care for it because they cant hold a to the elites that are already on 8 & 12 step dashers.

>>121319338
Aile

>>121320054
Ooga boooga sophia
Now Do YouUnderstand

>>121320328
mags is secretly santa

>>121320054
shouldnt you be crying to your lt. limpdick friend about how unfair youre treated?

>>121319194
That only applies to Sofa because he's socially retarded enough to flood a person's entire circle of friends with whispers whenever something doesn't go his way.

Nobody else is treated like that by cliques or groups of people.

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>>121320379
>>121320418

>>121319194
uh? im randomly invited by redrummers that sent friend request outta nowhere
we dont even talk outside the typical "wanna mpa?"

So how does Vol Graptor actually work? I'm never able to get it to do any sort of reasonable damage solo.

>>121320549
epic response you've made with your anime reaction image

You ever notice the thread always gets better when Rayles and Sofa are asleep?

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>>121318856
I think you guys all need to read this.

https://bitbucket.org/Maebbie/mk8g/wiki/Skype

What's happening to this general now is shockingly similar to what happened back in the day when /mk8g/ was active. History is repeating itself. The reason why /mk8g/ is so dead now is because it became nothing more than a hub for circlejerking and people cared more about popularity or trying to control the community than actually playing the game. Eventually the regulars realized that they werent interested in the game outside of the social aspect and left en masse for newer games (Smash, Splatoon, etc.) while leaving the general a hollow shell of its former self. I don't think it would be too far off to assume that's going to happen here once Episode 4 drops/BnS releases.

I'm not that attached to this community to be honest, but I just thought i'd let you guys know this is probably what's going to end up happening here.

>>121319338
Closet

>>121320640
you really sound anally devastated with no argument :-)

>>121320636
get 3 gear, one for each PA
charge volg
slide end
zenith throw
there are other combos but less pp efficient

>>121320363
>many don't care for it because they cant hold a to the elites that are already on 8 & 12 step dashers.
This is why no one cares about TA times. Seriously, if "walking faster" is the hardest thing to do in this game, there's a fucking problem.

>>121320940
Cool. So does it only work off of your damage?

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postems

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>>121321658
I sure love timestops not being synced to the animation.

>>121320972
Its not like its impossible it just takes dedication.

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>>121321658

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>>121321658

>>121322059
Difficult or not, if what makes or breaks the keystone of "skill" in this game if how fast you can walk, it's pathetic.

And SEGA clearly doesn't care because there's not even XH TA's yet, after months, to even give any semblance of a challenge to the actual fighting.

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>>121321658

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>Come back to PSO2 after a couple months
>See the summoner video

It's a bit early for April fools, guys

>>121322497
Don`t be mean behind the screen.
Just go to him and talk in area chat.

>>121322497
i like her boobs

>>121322497
I like her gorilla face and hands

>>121322507
It's pointless when in a few months they'll raise the cap and it becomes a joke again

If they fixed your level and scaled down your gear maybe we'd actually see more than that but the only way you're going to accomplish this in the current game is through something like Challenge Quests

>>121322083
delicious boobs

>Niren Orochi's
free money

>>121322758
>that hair + costume
><anon> buys that hair, hours later you as well
literally copying on your superiors, huh?

>>121321658
Wait how did you get that different angle?

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closet

you are no longer needed

>>121322946
the power of money and luck

>>121321658
>two people wearing the same dress
>everyone else is all black
Great job, guys. Super original.

>>121323025
Come back when it has cost-inefficient affixes in addition to Ult Bust, pleb
if you dont grind it before you sell it you're a stupid dumb birdbraincompoop

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I CALL THIS MOVE THE WHITE FALZ

>>121323129
that has nothing to do with money or luck, you are just copying <anon> again, i would not be surprised if you did it for attention

>>121322507
>>121322692

>because there's not even XH TA's yet, after months,

Just to be clear you're not talking about the usual klotho client orders. No, they don't use those maps they use a much more crueler map system.
If they gave you maps you already knew then things would be too piss easy.
They give you map layouts you have not even have seen before called the "Arks festival" its the reason why you get those neat normal looking human clothes each year. The overall difficulty can go from easy to insane on just normal.

>>121323296
he spends irl cash on this game too you know?

>>121323209
falz THIS *grabs dick*

>>121323339
You're thinking of the ARKS Grand Prix. The ARKS Festival boss things were something else.

>>121323025
I love this sword. I'm going to miss it when I get a 13* and sell it.

Really bummed they made the decision to have 12*s be tradable. But I'd be letting tens of millions rot in the bank if I don't.

>>121323579
13* will be tradable one day too

>>121323531
>You're thinking of the ARKS Grand Prix.
I think you're correct.

They name everything ARK- something.
So there will be occasional confusion.

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>>121322946
>>121323296
>le sophia is copying someone may may

>>121323774
Very few of the 13*s so far are actually unique though. The only one I'd even get sentimental over is the Double Cannon.

>>121323791
ARKS is the playable faction of the game yes that's why everything is named that

How viable is Fi/Fo?

>>121324121
not

>>121324121
Not very, LB doesn't affect techniques, you'll only take advantage of x-line slayers when it's on and critical strike, maybe also the PP regen from crazy heart, but not really worth it over ele conv and main class weapon bonus.

>>121324121
Anything can be viable if you know what you are doing. That being said, statistically speaking Fi/Te would be better for whatever you are planning.

>>121324121
Main FO
what the fuck do you gain from maining FI, more damage on the PAs for your Vera?

>>121323895
I wish the design team would just stop this "series" nonsense and went back to design unique rare weapons. Look at these "farmable" 13* they're all the same.

Positively thinking though, they're probably saving the legendary ones for 14/15*

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Does anyone know exactly how much variance the Invade 13*s have?

>>121324551
This actually seems pretty dank. I kinda want to try it now.

A memebuild to surpass Gu/Bo.

>>121324897
But you won't have the crit to make your fire techs for mobbing worth it
what're you gonna do, spec PBF

>>121324882
Same. Hopefully with Austere being the top grindfest 13*, they'll start working on unique ones again.

It's exactly why I hardly care about 13*s as it is. If I wasn't going to eventually get an Austere anyways from just doing Falz like I normally do, I wouldn't care.

>>121324882
wtf it's not nonsense

it's common practice in concept art to create a series of weapons based on a singular theme

art directors often look for concept artists who can create a series of designs that are identical to one another when looking at portfolios

uniqueness from equipment is overrated anyway

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>>121321658
I was late so I had to solo it.

actually quite fun.

>>121326134
Sure if you like wielding flowers being called weapons, be my guest. I, on the other hand have to use camos for everything due to how crappy I think all these 13* series look.

>>121324882
>>121326093
It's obvious why they do this, though: no one wants to be left out. It's much more efficient on their part to settle on a single theme than design thirteen completely different weapons every few months

>>121326134
>it's common practice in concept art to create a series of weapons based on a singular theme
It's also boring as shit.

Maybe if I didn't need to grind 100 hours for each of these weapons that all looked the same (with the same potentials), it wouldn't bother me as much. But if they're not putting any work into their game, why should I?

>>121326548
The alternative is worse, though: only some categories getting 13* while everyone else is shit out of luck for weeks.

>>121326548
>if they're not putting any work into their game

well then you wouldn't have any 13* weapons to begin with if they put ZERO work into it

im not interested in retards who speak with hyperboles to get across their central point

creating "series" is industry-fucking-standard, you might as well use the same line for every other game

making so many unique designs is a waste of time and a waste of money, and you need to account for people who might desire the same look that another weapon category might have.

BUT in your ideal world, they wouldn't have access to it

Does anyone else ever fantasize about being dominated by a giantess Sophia with her feet?

>>121327009
Then don't even bother replying, it's all personal taste.

Regardless, it IS lazy on their part, but because of people like you that eat their shit sandwich and ask for seconds we don't have variety anymore, just the same weapons skins scaled in different ways. Super lazy.

>>121324897
I remember reading that invade weapons have the same variance as extension level 1 weapons, i.e. really fucking bad

>>121327636
there's a footjob themed pseudo-hole but I can't imagine it feeling very great, I think people who are into that are better off trying to find a medical site that sells silicone foot replicas or something.

>>121327545
I could purchase one, though I'm trying to save up for upgrading my CPU and mobo.

>>121327009
>a waste of time and a waste of money
It's not a waste, but it takes time, and the next EQ/event/etc. is going to be out in a month any they need to fill the drop chart with things to keep the player base interested sooner rather than later it's clearly time they don't have.

>>121327404
The only lazy shit sandwich here is your posts.
> just the same weapons skins scaled in different ways
You think the Ares Sword uses the exactly the same model as the Ares Rifle except "scaled differently"? Jesus Christ, way to completely sabotage your own argument.

>>121327404
i'm replying so that OTHERS aren't ill-informed by your personal taste, there's no hope in convincing someone who cooks up hyperboles anyway

if I ate SEGA"s shit sandwich, i wouldn't be upset at how summoners come out like i am

in fact, it's ironic that you mention sandwich, since I doubt you eat a different breakfast every day if you get what I mean

if you look at it broadly over time, we have a lot of variety of existing weapons for PSO2

when you bring up laziness, that's you moving goalposts from my start of the reply chain because i am only clarifying that it isn't "nonsense", in fact, what they do "makes sense"

you are RIGHT to think this as a lazy shortcut, but not NONSENSE

give it to me straight friends should i play this game or should i walk away

Who are nicest and cutest redrums?

>>121328638
you should give it a try.

>>121328645
Sophia

>>121328638
Leave while you still can

>>121328682
serious replies only, this is a super serious and important question

>>121328417
Basically, if they had done it the other way, there'd probably only be a single 13* for every category now, a year after introducing them. They'd all look unique, but there just wouldn't be that many.

For something like the Challenge Miles shop only having a couple of weapon categories and not all of them represented would be unacceptable

>>121328645
Gavenger

>>121328878
I'm being serious, Sophia is a goddess

>>121328752
i left

wait closet's a girl? I thought he was just gaycurious. I guess that explains it now.

>>121329267
i'm not
it's a meme
ponos and vagoo are groce
play the game

Skele-tan, i demand that we talk right now.

>>121329267
I don't care what that bedwetter Closet is, the only girl we need in these threads is the heavenly and lovely Sophia

>>121328354
Your immaturity speaks way too loud. Note that I didn't insult you in anyway, you began insulting anyone that disagree with you as a "retard".

It's my opinion, and no one else is obliged to adhere to yours either.

>>121328417

Same as above, taste is taste. There's no "ill-informed" in taste dumbass.

Also what the fuck are you even talking about my breakfast. I'll stop here before I catch your mental illness.

>>121329340
I want to fap to your deuman.

>>121329601
this is why you don't bring up hyperbole like sandwich, you might risk someone actually replying to what you SAID rather than circlejerking with your vapid opinion

i just found it amusing, that's all, just a sidenote

in the end, what they do MAKES SENSE and is not NONSENSE as stated initially. That's the very point of thie argument

>>121329727
you must fap to chihuahuas too then
creep

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>>121329340
>>121330039

>>121329601
Your terribly formed "opinion" is based off of faulty premises. You claim that weapons in the same series are "skins scaled differently" which is just patently untrue. I might have been insulting but at least I actually addressed your bullshit argument and as far as that goes that joke of a reply you just made does nothing to rectify that

>>121329801

I'll exaggerate as much as I want, you have no control over what I or anyone else here posts.

I think it is nonsense. They have far more interesting designs in lower rarity weapons.

There's many more weapons waiting to be added from previous games that could have been already used, but all we have is these similar looking weapons and certainly more to come.

>>121330540
You didn't address anything. You just went "your opinion is shit, don't listen to him everyone listen to me instead".

You just go to the swiki and take a good luck at these weapons. They're all similar, don't try to push your opinion on me you freak.

>>121330547
Also I wasn't saying that you have ill-informed personal taste. But it's clear that your personal taste colors your argument in the form of exaggerations, are we in agreement with that? Therefore, people can be ill-informed if you exaggerate, it's one of the dangers of exaggerating, this shouldn't come off as crazy wacko talk to you.

I just told you how it makes sense, why is the industry standard irrelevant in your mind? Why won't you even bother countering it? Yes, sameness is applicable to current new weapons. But the developers made a decision where the PROS for them outweighs the CONS for you, how hard is this to understand? It's not NONSENSE. When you say it's nonsense, it's the same as you saying that you don't understand WHY it's happening. But you do, don't you?

>>121330547
It's terrible and super lazy when they make seventeen weapon models with the same textures but importing ones they designed five or ten years ago and calling them "new" is just fine and dandy

>>121331142
>importing
They have to create brand new textures and models and sometimes animations for them too you know, they're not just reusing assets from Dreamcast or PS2 games outside of the Pioneer 2 team room.

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>>121330886
>your opinion is shit, don't listen to him everyone listen to me instead
I told you twice now exactly where you're mistaken, "opinion" doesn't even come into play here. Take a good "luck" at these two weapons. Although they're similarly themed, you'd have to be blind to think that they're using the same texture, stretched or scaled differently. They obviously share the same aesthetic features, but each one was clearly designed for its own model.

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>>121331631
They have to create brand new textures and models and sometimes animations for the 13* series too you know. They're not just reusing assets from Dreamcast or PS2 games outside of the Pioneer 2 tam room.

>>121332427
I'm not the guy you were arguing with, I just wanted to point that out.

>>121332525
That's fine. I just wanted to point that out, too.

>>121330974
Why do you care so much if people are "ill-informed"? It's their own opinions you control freak.

I DO understand that their laziness with the designs is due to cost, no shit Sherlock. It's still nonsense to me as I mentioned, if they're going to be lazy, they have better designs from older games waiting to be used, and those designs are a better fit to my taste.

>>121331142
As above. I wouldn't mind some of the reused designs if they were good.

But of course, if the designers could come up with new, original designs that actually look like weapons instead of a bunch of flowers, all the better.

>>121332709
Actually, if they have more information, they have more free thought when forming an opinion. It's the opposite of control. On the other hand, exaggeration and hyperboles are the foundation of propaganda, a control, something you are doing subtly.

No, in fact your thinking is nonsense here. The reason being is because the developers don't know what your taste is, so expecting them to go with your tastes is unreasonable.

>>121332709
Then you're a terrible hypocrite and have been from the start.

>>121319338
How rude, guess I need to shitup the redroom more

>>121334242
Way to play into his hands

>>121333367
No, you projecting your bullshit here is nonsense, way to try to sugarcoat your mental illness projecting on me. Nice try.

>im not interested in retards who speak with hyperboles to get across their central point

Seems you're actually very interested after all.

You insult me and anyone else that could have the same opinion as mine as a retard just because I disagreed with you. And now you're so butthurt you're bringing politics on a discussion about personal taste in videogames. The only one doing propaganda here is you babycakes.

And it's pretty obvious Sega knows damn well their target audience's taste, hence why so many old stuff being revived, be them weapons, costumes, etc.

I have friends that love the 13* designs, that's fine. I hate them and I think Sega could do better. It couldn't get any simpler than that, but no, you have to push the way you think down into everyone throats instead of just letting it boil down to personal taste.

>>121334394
>You insult me and anyone else that could have the same opinion as mine as a retard just because I disagreed with you.
That's just my opinion. Why are you trying to change my opinion, you control freak? That's my own opinion.

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Skele-tan, i demand that we talk right now.

Any /vg/ teams with a level 8 attack tree?

>>121334690
Skele-tan lewds when?

http://pso2.jp/players/news/?mode=view&id=7276

Nobody leaves ship 2

>300 posts
>70 posters
ew

>>121334596
Ran out of arguments didn't ya? You didn't have one in the first place.

Yeah and I'll tell you something about your opinion: you insult someone, you get insulted back, grow a thicker skin if you don't like it.

>>121335234
What are you doing

>>121334856
the guy wears a lewdkini all the time, who doesn't have lewds of him?

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>>121334302
Was getting me to annoy the redroom more part of his plan?

>>121335610
Did I post in-game?

>>121335679
I believe that was implicit in my reply yes

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>wake up
>login
>do dailies
>idle
>do EQs if any appear
>log off
>sleep

when will this viscous cycle end? i dont know what to do anymore. im just so tired of it all.

>>121336139
Get a job.

>>121334394
>And it's pretty obvious Sega knows damn well their target audience's taste
It isn't just you
The work they put in for the people who aren't you isn't invalid by any measure, just because you don't like series designs. If you call it shit and lazy for that reason somebody on the internet is going to disagree with you, that person being from the other part of the audience that isn't like you. Is it ok that your opinion gets respected while you call common practice in design that some people are a fan of nonsense?
It's that simple and you shouldn't get so mad because somebody called you out on it.

>>121336174
k

>>121335234
If using the same nonsensical line about "opinion control" you did to sidestep criticism about the factual inaccuracy of your posts is "running out of arguments" then you bankrupted yourself an hour ago.

You already removed all doubt that you were a fool by opening your mouth to begin with, I suppose there were never any brakes on this train.

>>121336174
It's too late
I'm unhirable

>>121334394
Don't take my insults so personally, it's not like I took yours personally either. I just felt that it was part of /vg/ lingo, same as you. Did you notice how you insulted the SEGA team by claiming they never did any work? Yet you didn't like it when I take the initiative and called you dumb.

Do you not like the way I'm trying to make you out to be a hypocrite when you exaggerate yet hate control freaks? Fine. But you need to dispel the hypocrisy if you want to communicate that. It's without question that hyperbole or exaggerations are manipulative by nature; there has to be a reason why you are changing the truths.

Notice how you first argue for new unique weapons and denounce SEGA for being unoriginal and without thought but you are fine with old weapons befitting your tastes. There's a double standard here, one standard adheres to uniqueness and the other adheres to your personal taste. In fact, what we were first discussing was uniqueness but personal taste came later because you wanted to change it to be about personal opinion. Something being designed uniquely (objective fact) is not about personal taste (subjective) after all. Personal taste is not the original topic, just SEGA's originality.

When you bring in an audience, it is not longer personal about personal taste. It's less personal more about numbers now when we speak of "target audience", neither which you or I are able to substantiate.

>>121336584
>it is not longer personal about personal taste

*it is no longer about personal taste

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Quna is my wife

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Good evening cuties.

>>121336747
Shut up asshole.

>>121336745
Sorry, you have to be a strong black man for her to love you back.

any tips for looking for affixes? just pick up anything that had 3+ affixes on it? do *s matter?