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Azazel is ez mode edition

Last thread: >>121173264(Cross-thread)

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.

>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: FHRD S1N1 (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)

2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)

3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.

4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
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Where were you when dataminers won yet again?
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Fire Mind and Meat! are solid, hard-working, unappreciated items
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>>121225710
???
>>121225741
maybe if fire mind didn't blow up in your face it would be more appreciated
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>>121225741
so is experimental treatment
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jesus this is annoying
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What does the studfinder do?
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>>121225810
they figured out how to add the removed items to the game.
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>not 109 hours edition, considering the time.
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>>121225862
Points directly at me.
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reposting
Are there any new achievements related to beating everything with everyone on hard mode?
Basically is there any reason to play on hard mode now, unlike before where I only had to get up to mom's heart to unlock everything?
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>>121225925
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>tfw you're so bad at the game that you think greed mode with azazel is difficult
i havent played since a week after rebirth dropped how do i git gud again
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>>121226025
I can't get past caves anon, don't worry
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350 - Nulcear symbol, poisons the room as you enter
351 - Earthquake bean, Space bar
365 - Lost Fly, heads for a wall and skims it dealing damage
367 - Bomb. Apparently sticks to enemies and flies release upon explosion (Thanks to TheSwiftTiger)
371 - I think it was giving me The Tower effect on getting hit?
378 - Chance to make poop bomb on firing tears (Thanks to TheSwiftTiger)
385 - Bumbo, familiar, eats coins, gets bigger as it eats. Starts shoots once it makes it's first transform
390 - Seraphim, familiar, just fires tears I guess?
398 - Mushroom, shoots a blue tear (based on luck?) that shrinks an enemy if it hits
403 - Spidermod, familiar, crashes without a fix atm.
415 - Crown of something, lets you shoot diamond tears. Getting hit removes the effect and the crown goes grey
416 - Some kind of passive item, not really sure.
419 - Gold teleporter thing. Brought me to a room with enemies and upon using it over and over would keep bringing me to the same room until the enemies were killed? space bar item
420 - Salt dropper, you leave a trail of salt(i guess it's salt) and when you form a circle, it creates a pentagram and anything in it gets damaged. not sure about dmg level and it looks like the trail fades, so the faster you are the bigger the circle you can make?
426 - Obsessed Fan, familiar, on a 3 second delay, follows your movement, same way Multidimentional Baby does.
429 - GREED HEAD - you shoot fucking coins. tested giving myself 10, 50 and 99 coins, dmg did not appear to go up.
430 - Papafly, familiar Same as Obsessed Fan in movement (3 second delay, follows your movements) but when near an enemy fires tears
435 - Lil Loki!! Familiar with Loki's Horn tear effect (4 way cross shot)
436 - Milk familiar. When hit makes a milk puddle. No idea what the puddle does.
439 - Some box that drops a random trinket when you use it.
441 - Mega Satan Brim, active, shoots a giant mega Satan brim for what seems to be 15-20 seconds, and makes it very hard to move.
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>>121225956
>tfw looking at all the screenshots and feeling inadequate because they all are in hard mode.
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>>121225956
Look in the achievements list.
See all those new faggoty co-op babies?

Those are for beating shit on hard. Have fun.
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>>121225956
yes

every character has an achievement for completing the post-it on hard
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>>121225917
It always amuses me that not only is that alphabetically true, but also they are in order on a keyboard
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>>121226173
wait it's on hard?
I thought it was just complete the postit
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Only things I have left

>Greed Mode, Hush, Mega Satan as the Lost
>Brains challenge
>Speed challenge

And they're all impossible.
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>It's a "5% chance to have something happen upon getting hit" item
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>>121226025
You abuse the fuck out of the IV Bag in the 20 minutes you have left before it gets patched out of Greed.

Then you abuse Piggy Bank with Curse Room Doors
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>>121225865
nice
is that why fagmund is adding the content soon
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>lilith run
>get lil' chest first floor item room
>AW YEA SON
>get i can see forever
>lodsecoins in secret room
>go to shop through secret room
>car battery
>9 volt
>1 bomb in inventory
>only 10 coins in stock
>nowhere near 999 donation

there is no mercy in isaac
none at all
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>>121226313
Greed mode with the lost is easy
Just use the D4 on the item from the free room until you get explosive tears, then use your tears on the reroller machine until you get gnawed leaf and daddy longlegs
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>>121226446
no, it was always the plan to add it at 109 hours.
that's when the lost was first unlocked.
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>>121226336
>go on wiki
>this item/trinket does a thing sometimes in a blue moon
>fret not, at 75 luck, it triggers every time
>75 luck
>can't remember the last time I had more than a single luck-up pill, let alone multiple luck-up items

Easily my least favorite items.
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>>121226025
>tfw I think greed mode with azazel is hard
>I got real platinum god
I just can't deal with short range bullshit, I can't be getting all up in the harder enemies' faces like that.
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So, what's happening with the unlocks coming out for real? I got disappointed and haven't really checked shit out recently.
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>>121226501
Not true.
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Anyone else like to see some kind of end-game where isaac has to fight God and in order to stand a chance at all you need gamebreaking combos?
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>>121226481
>go to curse room
>SPIDERS
>beat it
>lil' chest drops tarot card
>the tower

THERE IS MERCY IN ISAAC AFTER ALL

>>121226514
Lucky pennies nigga, unlock them.
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>>121226501
uh huh, sure it was. tardmund totally didn't want to stretch this out like the whiny cunt he is.
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>>121226336
Cambion Conception and Immaculate Conception are good though, just because their payouts are so high quality.
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>>121226578
15 minutes and there will probably be a patch
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>>121226602
>get blown up by my own bomb
nevermind
never
fucking
mind
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>>121226581
And then when you get past him, you can fight Mega God
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post yfw nothing ends up happening in 15 minutes
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>>121226514
You can actually get decent levels of luck in Afterbirth if you get lucky pennies.

Before, you'd never have more than like 2 bars of luck. You can easily get to 4 or 5 if you're playing blood banks and stuff.
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>>121226283
I had everything complete on Magdalene except for dark room on hard, it was completed on normal though. I got the achievement after beating it on hard
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>>121226739
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>>121226763

The IV drip is complete bullshit and I love it I dont think I even took damage when I fought greed with it
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>>121226739
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>>121226313

Speed isn't impossible, it is just a bitch. I managed to get it done purely by luck on my second try.

Got:
Dr Fetus on the first floor
Ipacac on the second floor (caused bombs to explode on contact, which is new, but still behave like bombs, it also made me immune to my own blast damage for some reason, but not normal bombs nor other sources of explosions)
And dunce cap, completely by accident on the next floor, amusingly, this was very beneficial, as it caused the bombs to hit each other immediately, causing both bombs to explode as soon as I hit fire. One shot pretty much everything.
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>>121226581
Isaac the fight is Isaac's previous view of himself, as some sort of immaculate perfect christian boy who has no sin whatsoever, like God. Killing Isaac is you accepting your own sin and destroying your previous thoughts of yourself.

It's just a theory.
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>>121226967
A GAYYME THEORY
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>>121226763
>>121226514
what's lucky penny? It doesn't look like it's up on the wiki
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>>121226967
But Isaac isnt that difficult of a boss if you have good items
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>>121227042
it's a game feature that permanently unlocks when you donate 1 cent to greed

there's a chance of pennies boosting your luck by 1 level when you pick them up. it's not rare, but it's uncommon.
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I've got brimstone and the pentagram

Do i Take Glass cannon Or Fetus In a jar From the boss rush room?
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>>121226082
>398 - Mushroom, shoots a blue tear (based on luck?) that shrinks an enemy if it hits
That effect can happen with Rainbow Worm/3 Dollar Bill, I think
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>>121226739
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>>121227175
How many hearts/spirit hearts?
How good are you at dodging?
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>>121227175
glass cannon: does one enormous huge damage tear, but drops your HP to half a heart (it's free if you have no red hearts)

fetus in a jar: turns your tears into lit bombs that explode. since you have brimstone, you'll fire out bombs while charging up your beam.
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5 minutes until nothing
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>>121226082
what are these? I have never seen these
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>>121227016
Oh, goddamnit, shut the fuck up with that shit.
So much cringe. His content isn't even half bad, but when he closes out with that line, I just feel like wanting to punch something.
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>>121227284
I'm prepared
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>>121227284
2
MINUTES
TO MIIIIIIIIDNIGHT
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>Cursed Challenge

Best possible start.
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It's like poetry, yknow? Every scene kinda rhymes with the last one
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It's helecopter soldier all over again...
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aaa
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OH FUCK IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING NOTHING IS HAPPENING
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Since when the fuck does Steam do updates at fucking 2:00AM EST, you gullible ding dongs?
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>>121227663

not that anything is going to happen, but I'm pretty sure game clients can update independently of the steam client
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Nothing happened. Get back to me in a few hours or something.
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>>121227359
Items Edmung is keeping from us that data miners found.
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>>121227663
It's automated you retarded whoreposter.
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one more hours?
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Has anyone gotten continuum and brimstone yet?
Does it work?
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>>121225917
took me a second to get the joke
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>>121227714
Ok, anon, will do.
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>>121227505
FUCK YOU EDMUND I PAID FOR A FUCKING SEVEN DOLLAR STEAK AND YOU ONLY GAVE ME THREE DOLLARS WORTH JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING STEAK YOU FAT FAGGOT
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>>121227771
Yeah, I did. it doesn't
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Reminder that ed lives in long beach and it's barely 11 over there so one more hour.
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>>121227786
explain
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>>121227817
The thing is, it won't turn into a seven dollar steak after you eat it it for a while.
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>>121227918

Long Beach, CA? But Anon, it is 11 over there.
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>>121227926
l m n O P q r s t
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>>121227937
FUCK STEAKS JUST GIVE ME THE CONTENT
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>>121226739
something will happen eventually
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>>121227993
Thanks mate!
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>>121228041
Yeah, and I'm sure we'll get MGS V chapter 3 as well.
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>>121227505
George?
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>This whole ordeal
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How gullible does /boig/ feel right about now?
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>>121228167
>blackface
Racism is alive and well in USA.
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>>121228243
How does saving the thumbnail feel right about now?
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>>121228167
>those big ol' titties and lazy eye
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>>121227978
The point is it's not 12 yet.
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I'm gonna go to sleep, When i wake up tomorrow im expecting that fucking OPENGL fix so i can play the damn dlc i paid for. If it isn't there im gonna post a picture of mako for no apparent reason.
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>>121228684
please don't, anime sux
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>>121228684
You have / are / will do that anyway though.

Goodnight Anon.
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>>121228548
And after that you'll tell us that Edmund's grandfather had shellshock from the war, so he always lives 109 minutes in the past, so the game will update 109 minutes after it's 12 at Edmund's place.
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Cambion Conception is pretty neat, I guess.
Also, easy way to get Super Meat Boy achievement.
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Ipecac + Ludovico is very disappointing on Lilith. You get a normal floating tear and your Incubus starts spamming incredibly weak short range Iepcac shots.
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>>121228812
ipecac + ludovico is a horrible combination period
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So how long till I can sleep? Its getting pretty late here.
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12 minutes till NOTHING
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>>121228873
I was hoping it would explode on contact, like how Ludovico + Parasyte makes a cloud of splitting tears explode out of the main tear whenever you touch something
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Is there anywhere I could what that Tyrone's stream everyone is talking about?
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>>121228930
i'm prepared
again
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Guys guys we have to wait 109 hours, 109 minutes, and 109 seconds. Stay determined
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>>121228930
>>121229148

What? Why? What excuse now?
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>>121228994
Firemind+ludo makes the tear explode but then it resets to where you are. Its pretty sucky.
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>>121228873
It's not all bad, the Incubus' Ipecac doesn't explode if it hits a wall, so you can't fuck yourself up
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Check Steam.
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oh OH OHHHH x-files
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PATCH
ATCH
TCH
CH
H
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OHHHHHH SHHHHHHIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT
>>
OOOOOOOH
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Goddamnit, you guys. First MGS V, now with this game.

Rused twice in 2 months. I want to get off of Mr. Bones' wild ride. Fuck you guys, I'm going to bed.
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>>121229509
>>121229540
>>121229563
>>121229582
>>121229584
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>>121229623

Our treats will eventually come. Unlike MGSV.
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yeah buddy
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NIGGER THERE WAS NO ARG LEL
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I really had a 16 mb patch just now. Restart steam.
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>>121229676
bullSHIT
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:D
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>>121229707
>>121229721
>missing out on the patch

be that way then
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>>121229642
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i just logged in after the update, started a run as Judas, used the Book of Belial, and got a popup saying
>YOU UNLOCKED: THE BLUE WOMB
not making this shit up
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>>121229727

Fuuuuuu
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>>121229727
God fucking dammit, it's true.
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god I hope this blows right the fuck up in McMuffin's face

he did it, the fucking child really did it

there was no puzzle, he just forced everyone to wait because he's a whiny brat
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>>121229727
THANK GOD I DID HER UNLOCKS ALREADY :D
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PATCH IS LIVE
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blue womb unlocked
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>>121229727
are you fucking joking me

good thing I don't have auto updates turned on
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As a piratefag, I don't know what the fuck is going on.
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>>121229707
>>121229721
>>121229642

Restart Steam, worked for me.
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>>121229798
>>121229762
>>121229721

PATCH CONFIRMED

Ignore the time, Steam can't fucking count
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HE REALLY DID IT

HE REALLY HID THE ITEMS BEHIND A PATCH

THE ULTIMATE MADMAN
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>>121229793
It's infuriating.
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>>121229856
as a non piratefag
i don't have a fucking clue either
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QUICK SOMEONE GET TO MAXED OUT GREED DONATION MACHINE

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUSH IT PAST 109
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>>121229727
>4 room charge speed.

I could kind of understand 3 but this is just awful.
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>>121229974
Still pretty good, honestly.
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>>121229960
apparently it goes up to 110
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>>121229727
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>>121230046
oh my god

I would kek so hard
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>>121229775
I just started a run, decided to quit the game, and got a message saying I unlocked blue womb.

What the fuck.
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>>121229775
>>121230121
judging from the icon, i'm pretty sure it was supposed to automatically unlock when you kill the hush, but it was bugged
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>mfw I deleted my old file when I saw the unlock progression being fucked
>told myself I'd finish all the challenges first before I touch the real game

H-hope you guys have fun, I'll be here... raging at Solar System...
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>>121230039
add the car battery to that and you should be ok, no game breaking, but ok.
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HAHAHAAH they nerfed azazel too

>but it's supposed to be OP as shit guys
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Did he fix Ending 17 not unlocking for imported saves?
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>>121230121
It may be a "go to the Hush" level unlock - I have been to ??? and gone against the Hush, but haven't beaten it.
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>>121229727
rip
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>>121230250

Why the fuck would they nerf Azazel now and not when Afterbirth launched?
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This is fucking absurd.

They denied us half the content purely because they were upset people didn't want to solve their puzzle for the lost.
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>>121230250
Oh well... How much? At first glance he still seems normal.
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>>121230214
Yeah, with all the new battery items and the sacks in Afterbirth, it's pretty well-balanced now.
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Holy shit Azazel takes so long to charge now this is fucking ridiculous.
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new Polaroid?
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So it finally happened.
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>MissingHud now crashes the game

Bravo Eggman
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>>121230250
>>121230310
>>121230413
STOP HAVING FUN IN A SINGLE PLAYER GAME YOU MORONS
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You can still double-dip demon beggars. Nice to see that bug from the start of Rebirth still isn't fixed.
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HOW PETTY CAN ONE MAN GET

BRAVO
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>>121230413
not to mention the rate at which his brimstone inflicts damage seems slower
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>>121230405
reduced his damage by roughly 30% and it takes a bit longer to shoot
>>
It goes to show how crazy breaking the reload+IV bag run is when I actively avoided breakfasting the game in an effort to save time, and yet at the chest 3 of the items were breakfast.
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>>121230250
Well that kind of fucked the "Azazel is ez" mood of this thread

>>121230469
Probably just needs an update.

>>121229960
Going to do a Greed Run as Judas, I'll let you know as it goes.
>>
STEAAAAK

STEEEEAAAAAAAAAKKKKKK
>>
>he hid shit behind a patch
>he nerfed all the fun shit

shit game, glad I dont support edmund mcshillen
>>
>these huge Azazel and Lilith nerfs
Why? Seriously, why? Daily runs and chellenges have a predefined character, and you still have to use the other characters to get their unlocks. There was no good reason for nerfing them this hard, especially not Azazel, who has been that way for, what, a YEAR?
>>
>>121230413
I'd be 120% fine with this (after all, a Stanley-deals unlockable character being the easiest babby tier character ever? Doesn't make sense), but they should REALLY have unlocked his mini-brim to synergize more with items now that it works like this.
>>
PILL/CARD VOICES ARE GONE

THE NOFUNNERS WON
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>>121230618

I'd be pretty mad if I had paid more than seven dollars for this.
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>>121230648
Should have been togglable in the options from the start anyway
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>>121230648
>PILL/CARD VOICES ARE GONE
Really, was it that hard to make a quick on/off feature?
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>Expect happy fun time game
>Proceeds to give every character nerfs on cain levels

What the fuck mcmuffin?
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>>121230736
>every character

didn't only Lillith get nerfed with adding 2 charges to her box thing?
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>>121229727
OH GOD
it says update queued on my steam
what the fuck do I do
I don't want this shit I'm not ready

SOMEONE HELP
>>
>>121230736

When every character is shit, none of them are.
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ANOTHER FOR THE TRASH HEAP
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>>121230648
Well done anon. Made me start up Life Gives You Lemons.

6/10 ruse
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>>121230645
Yeah, for how risky he is to use against a lot of bosses, especially now, he should definitely have some better synergies.
>>121230776
And Azazel. They heavily nerfed the charge time on his minibrim.
Does it affect regular Brimstone too? Anyone?
>>
>>121230776
Judas, Cain in rebirth, azazel, lilith. And honestly half of the other characters that didn't need nerfs were already ass.
>>
>>121230618
Azazel needed a nerf from day 1. It's about FUCKING time that it happened.
Seriously, now Azazel might actually be a fucking challenge.
>>
"No, seriously, I want you to ONLY play as Isaac"
>>
>>121230812
unmark cain and mark samson.
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>>121230886
Azazel isn't supposed to be a challenge. He's supposed to be easy mode.
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Sweet timing on the update, just finished everything else I could think of.
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>>121230812
>Judas
>Bad

Since when?
Isn't DPS the most important thing in the game for normal characters?
>>
>Robot spider shows random damage
What's the point?
>>
Welp I could donate to 112. Also saw one of the locked-out items already.
>>
>>121230886
MAYBE SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN
>>
>>121230894
I basically already did. Now I probably will.
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>Brimstone Baby does more damage than Azazel

BELLISSIMO, EDMUND
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>>121229727
i'm going to murder you edmund
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>>121230938
Which is fine when you're starting out, but everyone with more than 20 hours in rebirth actively avoided playing him.
Hell, as soon as I got back into Rebirth, the first thing I did was knock out everything on Azazel so I wouldn't have to play such an unfun character again.
Now I might be somewhat tempted.

As for Lilith, it's also somewhat deserved. The box will now essentially be like Judas with Book of Belial instead of a crutch for your entire run
>>
>>121230950
judas was good and fun because book of belial allowed you to guarantee yourself devil deals, something no other character could do

his low health + devil deals to sacrifice the little health he has, allowed him to be a glass cannon that required skill and decision making

now he literally just has the bonus damage from the book. it doesn't make up for his base health.
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>>121230812
>He thinks Eve is shit.
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New trinket: Little larva.
>>
Here's that "Curse of the Tower" one of the dataminers mentioned
>>
POST SCREENCAPS OF BLUE WOMB
>>
PATCH NOTES WHEN
>>
>>121231059
Book still gives +25% devil chance.
>>
Anyone got a torrent for the last version of rebirth? This expansion has been a pretty awful experience.
>>
CANON DOES SOUL HEART DMG NOW

KEK

NO FUN
>>
> glass cannon now takes away soul/black hearts too
>>
>>121231118
Works exactly how he described it
>>
>>121231180
big whoop, not taking red heart damage as isaac gives 100% chance and you get to keep the dice
>>
>>121231163
inb4 its just the hush arena after all
>>
>>121231229
>>121231234

no fun allowed ever

time to never fucking take it again
>>
>>121231229

To be fair it's called "glass cannon", not "devil deal bitch boy cannon"
>>
>>121231069
Eve is terrible. Give 5 reasons why she isn't.
Also what the fuck is that picture

>>121231173
>implying that someone who is childish enough to make you wait 109 hours for content would release patch notes.
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>>121231229
>>121231234

Happened to me just now. Spent my 15c on it with great eagerness on ???.

My soul hearts were not ready....
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>I added shitty items and nerfed everything fun. Take that dataminers >:)
>>
reminder

their one fatal mistake was putting "120 items" on the steam page

if they put 70, nobody would have suspected a thing. people would be freaking their shit in excitement right now
>>
>>121231229
>>121231234
FUCK
WHY
WAI
>>
>>121231294

My only gripe is that all of this work is going into items that you probably won't see that often outside of Greed Mode.
>>
>>121231294
Yeah, now it's the worse than taurus cannon.
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>>121231229
>>121231234
haha another item ruined
thanks
>>
>>121231234
So basically he turned it from situational to worthless.

BALANCE!
>>
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/famitsu-review-scores-issue-1405
>The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (PS4) – 7/7/6/8 [28/40]
>Goat Simulator (PS4) – 8/8/8/7 [31/40]
Why don't the Japs like it?
>>
>>121231393

it's pretty clear he had every intention of doing this on purpose to punish those pesky dataminers

muh steak
>>
>>121231272
You lose a % for every previous devil deal you had though. +25% is still good.
>>
Why the fuck did Ed nerf everything?

What's the point of having 500+ items if only 30 of them are usable/viable.
>>
>>121230948
Did you get the blinding baby achievement? I reimported my save, I spent 3 days doing the lost runs trying to beat everything with him (only had to beat hush and mega satan). I finally did it but I didn't get the blinding baby. I really hope I don't have to do it again
>>
>all of these nerfs
>everyone freaking the fuck out
>mfw sitting back and loving every bit
WAAAH THIS GAME ISN'T ULTRA EASY MODE I WANT THIS TO BE LIKE MY COWADOODIES WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>
>>121231234
still good on the lost, at least.
except wait it probably kills him now
>>
>>121231515
afaik it is bugged for everyone and doesnt seem like they fixed it
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>>121231546
>>
>>121231546
This game is intended to be broken at times, not everything has to be a challenge
>>
>>121231546

keep taking soy milk tiny planet and pretending you're having fun, dipshit
>>
>>121231475
because it's hard and doesn't hold your hand, and japan is a nation of casuals who play phone games

no cutscenes, no story, real time skill based gameplay, lots of collecting and exploring, secrets, only tutorial is a scribble on the first floor. it's pretty much the antithesis of modern japanese game design.
>>
>>121231341
>Eve is terrible. Give 5 reasons why she isn't.

Literally becomes a better Judas if you just grow a pair and start the first floor by lowering your health to 1 heart. I don't understand how people can rank Eve lower than Judas.
>>
New Item:

Mom's Box -> Drops a random pickup, 4 point recharge. Dropped cancer, still want to hold on to Book of Belial.
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Spidermod item.
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What did I do to deserve this
i paid money for this game
this is just too much
I just wanted to have fun

it's not like every run is an instant win, or even a quarter of runs are
this wasn't necessary
>>
>>121231617
They liked Dark Souls though (although funnily enough, Famitsu gave Demon's Souls a shit score even though the gameplay is fairly similar)
>>
>>121231594
And there are still combos and items that break the game, however it's only a select few combos and items instead of LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE COMBO AND ITEM
>>
So let me get this straight, if I can't patch the game, I can't get 40% of the DLC's content? Even though I paid for it?
>>
>>121231229
>>121231234

LITERALLY WORSE THAN HITLER
>>
>>121231546
>azazel nerfs kind of needed but why the fuck would they do it this late. I personally think he was fine, nothing wrong with some characters being easy and some being harder (although the lost is still way too far on the unfun bullshit scale)

>liliths is probably fine due to battery items and new ways to get batteries

>brimstone babby does more fucking damage than azazel now

>glass cannon is now basically worthless unless you plan to play the character like the lost

yeah go fuck yourself, its a single player game, there should be a nice range of items, not a few good and rest fucking garbage.
>>
>>121231736
just eat your steak :^)
>>
>>121231673
shows damage and health for every enemy
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>>121231341
Whore of Babylon
Good Speed
A better Judas
Best Girl
Most fuckable Girl

Only shitters hate playing Eve.
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>>121231673
Gives enemies HP bars and shows how much damage you do to them.
>>
>>121231761
i'm 99% sure that glass cannon now kills the lost
>>
>>121231502
This was always the state of BoI in every version.
Wrath of the Lamb might be an almost exception-like high point. But WotL got some fair nerfs as well, a month or so down the line.
>>
>>121231546
I'd rather have more of the items be fun/usable. I shouldn't have to reroll 90% of the items I come across.
>>
>>121231546

But it's a single-player game. Also, why nerf when on a typical run, you don't have that high of a chance to see everything anyway.
>>
>>121231475
at this point it's a deserving score

>>121231730
>And there are still combos and items that break the game, however it's only .01% instead of a 5%
ftfy
>>
>>121231736
edmund "hitler ramsay" mcmillen, you'll get the last part of your steak when all the jews are dead from fake puzzles
>>
>>121231704
did they though? i always assumed dark souls was pretty much only popular in the west

they also gave shitward sword a 40/40 so basically fuck that publication, that game makes me cry at how bad it is
>>
>>121231761
>Make it so only good character is isaac
>Lock out content for a few days because he's mad at data miners, punishing actual fans as well because why not
>Syrians coming to my country today

I honestly thought this expansion would take me to 1000 hours, now it just made me hate indie devs even more
>>
>>121231831
Rather than nerfing good items, he should just make them rarer or harder to unlock.
>>
>azazel isn't fun to play anymore
>no more pill announcer for no reason
haha epic mcfaggen, simply epic!
now you shits know cain's pain
>>
>>121231730
>Literally
>Every
>Single
>Combo
>And
>Item

You're fucking ridiculous, there were still a shitton of items added and items in the game that are mediocre at best and fucking garbage at worst (DUNCE CAP, Mom's Pearls, Epiphoria, Eden's blessing, Farting baby)
>>
>>121231897

If you have a Twitter, someone should tweet that at him.
>>
>>121231880
Nah, Bloodborne sold pretty well in Japan. It's the #3 top-selling PS4 game for them. Not surprising when there's literally nothing else on PS4 right now.
>>
>>121231785
I want this item to be a feature. I'm a sucker for number popups.
>>
hopefully when I wake up someone will have found out how to unlock keeper

unless he's behind an arbitrary timelock as well
>>
>>121231672
I mean, I guess it's nice for challenge runs?
Does it drop in the Boss Room pool?
>>
>>121231736
It's brilliant. Hold half the content hostage to force people to download your update that nerfs characters and items you dislike (even though they didn't really need it)
>>
>Enter greed mode
>"You have unlocked the blue womb"
Thanks?
>>
>>121231761
>>glass cannon is now basically worthless unless you plan to play the character like the lost

Still perfectly viable and balanced, honestly. I've had plenty of dead in the water runs where I would have totally taken the glass cannon for a better chance at completing the run.

Plus, consider that it's in the Item Room Pool, and thus available for most challenges.
>>
999 cents in greed machine only gave me a message saying "if only anyone was as generous as you are." Fucked up the screenshot but there was firework coming out of the greed machine.
>>
Isaac
.
.
.
.
.
Cain
Samson
.
.
Maggy
Judas
Azazel
Lillith
Eve
.
Lazarus
XXX
>>
>>121232036
Shut the fuck up.
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>>121231797
as if that character needed even more items that are worthless on him. fucking fat fuck of a dev (or is it nicalis doing these fucking nerfs?)

>>121231886
I 100%'d original at 200 hours (minus the lost which I cheesed before it got patched because fuck that, trying it legit made the game go from fun but hard in cases to fuck you and your fun) and was hoping to get another 50-200, I feel like it might be much closer to 50 if that.
>>
RIP Lilith
2015-2015

Killed by Mcmuffin for being too fun
>>
>>121232131

pick it up you fucking weenie
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Seriously why did they get rid of the pill announcer
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>>121232131
>still playing this shitshow
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>>121231886
>>Syrians coming to my country today
>>
>>121232195
THEY REMOVED THE ONLY GOOD FEATURE?
>>
>>121232195
INFESTED?!
>>
>>121231420
>taurus cannon
What Taurus cannon?
>>
Oh man, this steak tastes way too good
>Not to worry sir
>takes a steaming shit on your steak
Enjoy.
>>
QUICK
http://strawpoll.me/5916950
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>>121231515
I think I need to complete boss rush again to get it. I guess you have to complete the full note in Afterbirth to unlock babies, since I got the one for Lilith and Isaac which I did everything with.
>>
>>121232324
INFESTED!
>>
>>121232195
He was annoying when he wasn't saying HEMATEMESIS. And then it was still annoying because you accidentally ate a hemo pill, but I suppose that part's still there.
>>
>>121232324

EX-PLOSIVE DIARRHEA
>>
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I don't know if this was tested by someone but throwing chaos cards kills him again somehow.
>>
>>121232114
Not surprised that it's just a bragging rights reward.

Did you unlock anything on the way to it?
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>Time gated content
>Nerfing azazel this late into the games life

Im mad
>>
>>121232324
ARE YOU.. A WIZARD?
>>
What are you missing the announcer for?
If I just start up Life Gives You Lemons, the announcer is still there for Lemon Mishap.
>>
>>121232343
At least you enjoy yourself after a while with Shitmund.
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>They got rid of the pill/rune/card announcer instead of just making it optional
>4 charges on Lilith
Amazing patch dude
>>
>>121232343
Edmund is Satan but Phil is Mega Satan.
>>
>>121232374
but why wasn't it literally just optional from the start instead fo being incredibly polarizing and then being removed for no discernible reason? us indie devs huh
>>
>>121232406
No rewards no unlocks nothing at all. Fireworks and it exploded after 999 >>121232383
>>
>>121232458
Because Eggmund is an idiot.
>>
does the greed machine unlock more shit?
>>
I just got an item with the effect "Intensifying Tears" but I already have Epic Fetus so I have no clue what it does
>>
>>121232454
>Phil is Mega Satan.
Satan would be offended.
>>
>krampus didn't drop anything
EDMUND
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What did they do to Azazel
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I found one.
>>
>>121232553
If you fire in one direction continuously your fire rate increases until you stop. Doubt it does anything with Ebin.

>>121232586
~30% less damage, longer charge.
>>
>>121232638
>~30% less damage, longer charge.
JUST
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Rebirth was quite possibly my favourite game, I would play it when I was bummed to feel better about shit and hell half the time it would work really well.

When I saw that the game was getting an expansion I was hype as fuck and preordered that shit within an hour of it being announced. Playing what I was given feels like an insult, this isn't a game made by somebody wanting to continue a game or to please their fans. This is an expansion by a dev with a chip on his shoulder, he's punishing all of his fans because he was mad about the fact people datamined how to unlock his retarded unlockable lost shit. The blue womb which is pretty much the only new shit in the normal game would cause the game crash for people for the first 3 days. He made it so that the only character that is worth playing is isaac for god knows why and for some reason he buffed krampus but didn't give him an item pool to make it worth it. You lost a life long fan mcmillen, I hope your petty bullshit was worth it.
>>
Did Epic Fetus + Brimstone do this before Afterbirth?
>>
>>121232668
FUCK
>>
is it time to add edmund to the list of devs to never give money to again?
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>>121232638
>~30% less damage, longer charge.
I've watched several of my favorite series/games turn to shit this year. Kill me now.
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>>121232586
the good die young
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>>121230886
>nerfing anything in a single player game
>>
>>121232569
Ah.
>>
>>121232698
Yes
>>
>>121232632

great more fucking bean items jesus christ
>>
>>121232685
Greed mode is pretty fun Tbh
>>
>>121232801
not anymore
>>
>>121232692
No.
>>
>>121231058
>Now I might be somewhat tempted.

Literally all they did was nerf his damage. All they changed was how long it takes for him to do anything.

People who actively avoided playing him aren't going to start now since he's exactly the same but takes longer.
>>
>>121232738
What's that for?
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I don't even wanna play. Who knows what else is still locked, my imported save's progression still seems janked, the goofy announcer that I liked is either broken or removed intentionally, and from a glance at reddit, there's some new bugs maybe.

Was it worth it, Fatmund? Couldn't you just release it in full, proper, not breaking my save file with your half-baked attempt at gating your content? Maybe I'll play this again once I had my fill with SW Battlefront, perhaps by then the game will be in it's "as was intended" shape.
>>
>>121232685
Hey man, remember you can always disable the DLC and play normal Reborn if you wanted to.

Not everyone is thrilled, but your game is still there, you just need to remove the DLC :)
>>
>>121232692
No.

>>121232708
I'm just baffled by Ed's mindset in general.
>wants people excited for his game but doesn't want them actually looking for information about it
>wants people to have fun but actively removes anything that makes the game slightly less bullshit
It's like he subconsciously hates everyone.
>>
Hm, it's a trinket
>>
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What the fuck is he doing to the game?

He's quickly losing a long time fanboy. I'm definitely never preordering his shit again. They say don't preorder anything but I thought Afterbirth was a safe bet. How could it be fucked up? It couldn't.
>>
>>121232750
Dark Bum was pretty game breaking.
>>
>>121232863
I have no idea.
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>You cant continue runs after Hush anymore, just get a golden chest

Thanks
>>
>>121232930
So is Epic Fetus, so is Brimstone, so is Quad Shot, so is anything good.
BoI was never balanced and it should never be, some items are better than others, yeah so what, that's how you win a run.
>>
i still get the annoucer for telepills, nothing else though
>>
>>121232893
How do I disable updates from steam
I don't care if I have to put steam offline

I have until 5:22 until my copy of afterbirth is fucked forever.
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>>121232632
>It's just a bigger poison cloud.

Hold on to your butts, everybody.
I remember reading so many interesting suggestions when he asked for them on reddit. What happened? It's not like he couldn't think of anything better. He had people DO that FOR him.
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This whole expansion has been such a fucking shitfest.

First when it came out it fucking crashed for nearly everyone, achievements were absolutely fucked and post it notes are still fucked I'm pretty sure so I hope you memorized everything you did.

And then we find out he's withholding content to spite people who datamined the game acting like a complete child.

And then in the update to spite the dataminers he nerfs fun items and characters, for whatever fucking reason, and breaks shit again.

Jesus fucking Christ, how disappointing.
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>>121232913
>Fagged Polaroid
>It has a picture of Edmund McMulan
COM
ED
Y
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>>121232913
Makes you transparent sometimes?
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>>121232971
what the fuck
IT'S NOT AN END GAME BOSS TYRONE
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>>121232930
Dark Bum in the original is the prime example of why yes, some items do need to be nerfed. Dark Bum has been nerfed maybe six times, and it's STILL extremely good. It's more a demonstration of the fact that they don't do any playtesting than anything.
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>>121232987
It's a big poison cloud and it makes a Cage-like crack in the ground in a random direction.
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>>121232913
>we have to do a fucking trinket thing again for blue womb
BRAVO
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>>121232984
put steam offline
go into "properties" and put updates to "only update when I launch"
as long as you launch offline, it won't update
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ITS HABBENING BLUE WOMB UNLOCKED
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>>121232987
He actually said that all of the suggestions on Reddit were terrible and he only used maybe five of them.
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>character has high risk/high reward
>remove reward
>increase risk
Edmund "If you're having fun, I'll show you my gun" Mcmillen
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Can confirm, you can donate over 109 coins to Ultra Greed. I had fucking jack all on me so I only got to 112. Unsure if there are any extra unlocks.

>>121233068
Alternatively, there should be a "Only update when I say" option as well.
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>can't restore Greed mode completion with The Lost
Fucking A+.
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>>121232971
...That's not what I meant when I wished for Ending 17 to get fixed.
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>>121233121
im slowly starting to think edmund doesnt know whats good for this game either
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X9tQZFzijc

Thread theme
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>>121232343
Voted edmund because I didn't read the other option but yeah phil fish is legit worse

>I'm allowed to talk shit about everything I don't like, including all japanese games and shit
>someone called me out on my bullshit, better cancel overrated, the game: 2 electric boogaloo on fucking twitter
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So, uh, devil deals don't automatically switch heart types anymore.

Is that a bug or was it actually meant to be like that all along and the 'fix' in afterbirth was the bug?
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>>121232156

If you think Lilith is bad now then you're just a babby who needs to be carried by OP shit every run
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BLUE WOMB ISN'T EVEN A FLOOR

IT'S JUST HUSH

AND NOW THE GAME ENDS WHEN YOU BEAT HIM
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>>121233224
who fucking knows with these Nicalis idiots

I'm still convinced the "can't bomb into stores/item rooms/etc" was a feature they thought was great before they realized it literally broke the game
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The greed mode rerolling things now explode when you bomb them.
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>>121232195
They didn't, he's still there for some pills.
He's annoying.
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>>121233251
Edmund "Out the hatch when you open my patch" Mcmillen
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>>121232919
It's like everything I ever get hyped for in my life turns out to be shit. No, not just shit, but rather shat on.

Like, not even just games. Is this the end times? Why is this happening to us?
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>>121233251
>>121233191
>>121232971
Has anyone tried to beat Hush with the Faded Polaroid yet?
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>>121233251
>BLUE WOMB ISN'T EVEN A FLOOR
>IT'S JUST HUSH
Wait, he seriously fucking removed the store and 2 item rooms?
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>>121232131
got it in the same room
"penny tears"
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>tfw your favorite characters never get praised more than others so they'll be the last to get nerfed
Still doesn't feel great.
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>>121232930
YOU DON'T GET IT EVERY FUCKING RUN
Yes there are good items and bad items

Holy shit, play 50 games on hard and tell me how game breaking dark bum is when you see him 5 out of those 50 times, and you don't get many red hearts in hard mode either.

Yeah, I remember when I was playing as the Lost in hard mode and dark bum made it an instant win, got up to mega satan in 5 minutes and beat him in 5 seconds. Dark bum was a real game breaker, yeah.
kill yourself
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>>121233347
It's still there, it's just exactly the same as it was before the patch.
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how will NorthernLion defend this one?
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>>121233347
He did not remove store and item rooms.
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>>121233000
>tfw we're beta testing the DLC for the PS4/Vita release.

Us PC gamers, huh?
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>>121233303
>>121233251
God damn it I hadn't done the Lost shit yet.
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>only two games I got legitimately excited for in my creaky old jaded heart were Metal Gear Solid 5 and Binding of Isaac Afterbirth

>both were extremely fucked up and unfinished

I don't even have a reaction image. I'm just done caring about stuff. Everything I show an interest in falls apart.
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What's the quote about edmund wanting to do something no developer had ever done before because of the lost datamining? His grand idea was to tine-gate content. Does he really think nobody has done this before?
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>>121233406
devil deal president, guppy guppy bossrush timer
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>>121233406
"It still makes me money so whatever"
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>robo spider shows enemy HP

THANK YOU BASED GOD
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>>121233406
"It's Edmund's game and he can do what he wants with it, I know the community's a little upset right now, but he's the developer so let's just give it a try and see how it goes."

The dude is just way too fucking polite to call anyone out on their bullshit.
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>>121233461

haha but you don't get it

he outsmarted the dataminers :)

you can't mine what isn't there :)))))))
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>afterbirth has actually LOWERED the number of usable characters

Thanks, Edmund "literally never play anybody other than Isaac and Eden" McMuffin
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>>121233456
Seriously.

Glad I don't like Fallout because if I were looking forward to that I don't think I could take it.
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>>121233251
That's some kind of dank joke, right?

>>121233303
That was already the case.

>>121233456
I have one for you

Anyone have Blue Baby tips? need to get some unlocks on the road.
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>>121233406
"It's my main source of income so I'm not going to criticize it."

That's literally it.

Why would he call the main game he plays bad or disappointing? Career suicide.
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>>121233204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYEK_yvIWas

did u rike it evrybody?
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>>121233456
>Metal Gear Solid 5 turns out be one of the biggest disappointments of my fucking life
>Binding of Isaac is getting shit on constantly
>Might Number 9 is just what ever
>Silent Hill canceled
Just kill me now
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>>121233514
He's Canadian.
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>>121233318
I got a seed with Faded Polaroid if anyone wants to try and a new Devil Deal Item called Black Powder and you can do pic related; you walk in a circle and you drop powder on the floor as you walk, if you do it in a circle you get this.

3GGL
1LHN
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Trippy
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>>121224693

Late as fuck, but no, anon.

Poopsocking is a real term, decades old.
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>>121233461
Has anybody ever time-gated advertised content and then lied that you had to solve a puzzle to unlock it before?
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How many items were there when afterbirth was released, when ed promised 120?
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>>121233539
>That was already the case.
No it wasn't, I bombed one earlier today.
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>>121233406
permanent polaroid invincibility
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Wait, so does your run end now upon beating Hush, or do you still get the paths?
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>>121233520
I guess he played destiny before the release of aftherbirth. Got an ebic idea off bungie.
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>>121233627
like 20
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I got a new familiar.

Bumbo: "Bumbo want coin!"

No coins here so I can't test what he does.
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>>121233631
It happened with me on Afterbirth release - I was trying to get Secret Rooms and I fucking rerolled a great item because I bombed it.
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>character I played in vanilla flash game
Cain, Isaac
>characters I played in WotL
Cain, Isaac, ???
>characters I played in Rebirth
Isaac, Eden, Judas
>characters I play now
Isaac, Eden, might play Cain again, have to test him more.
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>>121233539
I highly doubt they exploded before, I got pyro and went through 77 bombs worth of rerolling on one floor without anything exploding
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>>121233309
I don't know why, but I laughed my ass off.
Fuckin' anon and his memes right here.
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Why does every patch break the entire fucking game?
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>>121233661
It ends after Hush. Just did it with Lilith, picked up Polaroid before fighting him.
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>>121233573

Undertale GOTY
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>>121233705

No, the machine explodes and can't be used again now you dingus.
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>>121233701

He was datamined, he eats some coins and then transforms? Don't know what he does afterwards.
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>>121233735
Well fuck. Guess I'm going straight to Mega Satan then.
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Why is this happening?
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post yfw redditors actually defend this update
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>>121233740
Guess since I probably won't be playing isaac much anymore, I might as well try undertale
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>>121233773
Your punishment must be more severe
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>>121233709
>>121233631
I guess I might have accidentally put a coin in it. I stand corrected.
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Welp, that is it everybody. Isaac is dead.

Riperoni in pizza
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>>121233740
>Cancerous fanbase.
You win some, you lose some.
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>blue womb is fucking nothing
oh well
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>>121233751
yep

basically a meat boy but you feed him

no more bombs, idk if he gets bigger
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>>121233813

r/bindingofisaac seems miffed overall

not foaming-at-the-mouth autismo rage, but definitely unhappy
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>>121233740
>>121233816
Undertale is alright. Its nothing special. Except for the god awful art direction and pixel art the game doesn't really have anything negative about it.
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>>121233813
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>>121233904
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3rgxzx/jesus_enough_with_the_complaining/
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I remember way back when the lost was datamined and Edmund went on NL's stream to talk about it and NL asked how he felt and he responded "why don't you just datamine my heart to find out", and everybody laughed, because he was joking about it so it wasn't a big deal.

Little did we know the depths of the salt within.
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>>121233853

A-are you retarded?

Reading comprehension motherfucker.
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Someone upload this real quick:

http://moddingofisaac.com/mod/16/isaaccharactereditor

Without the virus

thanks
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>>121233406
YouTube faggotry Guppy items still not nerfed.

YouTubers just have to transform to Guppy in every video. Kids get hyped "WILL HE TRANSFORM INTO GUPPY THIS TIME!!!!??" Then they do and they click the upvote button.

There, I just spoiled every paid YouTuber who does BoI runs. Faggot turns into Guppy, clears rest of the game in 10 minutes.
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>>121232695
MY
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>>121233813
how the fuck do you find the isaac thread

all I see in gaming are star wars and fallout 4 threads

what a clsuterfuck
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>>121233964

>sorting by new
>won't get enough votes to even see the front page of the subreddit

that's practically cheating

I'm sure there are some retards here who think it was a good idea as well

like this guy >>121231546
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Why so much hate for Edmund. You bitch after every update but after some time everyone is calm again.
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>>121233539
Book of Revelations and Satanic Bible help. Use them all the time. Make those devil deals.
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>Az got gutted
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>121234068
/r/bindingofisaac/

Go nuts.
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>Nerf Lilith
>Balanced in Greed Mode
>Completely fucking awful in everything else
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>>121234040
The guppy dream is real, all we have to do is our due diligence and not take any dumb damage.
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Beating Hush gives a new ending now
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>>121233813
>>121233904
>>121233964
I don't know man, I'm getting pretty dehydrated reading the comments, a lot of people are pretty fucking salty
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>>121233904
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3rgt7p/patch_is_out/
nah they seem to be a bit pissed.
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>>121233461
I'm sure the last unlockable character will be unprecedented proportions of stupidity in it's unlocking process.
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>>121234040
>every fucking thing except guppy has been nerfed
what the fuck?
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>>121234081
It was the first result in rising. Rising is a good indication it will go somewhere. Maybe not frontpage but higher up.
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