Azazel is ez mode edition
Last thread: >>121173264(Cross-thread)
>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/
FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki
>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush
>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.
>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: FHRD S1N1 (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)
2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)
3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.
4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
Where were you when dataminers won yet again?
Fire Mind and Meat! are solid, hard-working, unappreciated items
>>121225710
???
>>121225741
maybe if fire mind didn't blow up in your face it would be more appreciated
>>121225741
so isexperimental treatment
jesus this is annoying
What does the studfinder do?
>>121225810
they figured out how to add the removed items to the game.
>not 109 hours edition, considering the time.
>>121225862
Points directly at me.
reposting
Are there any new achievements related to beating everything with everyone on hard mode?
Basically is there any reason to play on hard mode now, unlike before where I only had to get up to mom's heart to unlock everything?
>tfw you're so bad at the game that you think greed mode with azazel is difficult
i havent played since a week after rebirth dropped how do i git gud again
>>121226025
I can't get past caves anon, don't worry
350 - Nulcear symbol, poisons the room as you enter
351 - Earthquake bean, Space bar
365 - Lost Fly, heads for a wall and skims it dealing damage
367 - Bomb. Apparently sticks to enemies and flies release upon explosion (Thanks to TheSwiftTiger)
371 - I think it was giving me The Tower effect on getting hit?
378 - Chance to make poop bomb on firing tears (Thanks to TheSwiftTiger)
385 - Bumbo, familiar, eats coins, gets bigger as it eats. Starts shoots once it makes it's first transform
390 - Seraphim, familiar, just fires tears I guess?
398 - Mushroom, shoots a blue tear (based on luck?) that shrinks an enemy if it hits
403 - Spidermod, familiar, crashes without a fix atm.
415 - Crown of something, lets you shoot diamond tears. Getting hit removes the effect and the crown goes grey
416 - Some kind of passive item, not really sure.
419 - Gold teleporter thing. Brought me to a room with enemies and upon using it over and over would keep bringing me to the same room until the enemies were killed? space bar item
420 - Salt dropper, you leave a trail of salt(i guess it's salt) and when you form a circle, it creates a pentagram and anything in it gets damaged. not sure about dmg level and it looks like the trail fades, so the faster you are the bigger the circle you can make?
426 - Obsessed Fan, familiar, on a 3 second delay, follows your movement, same way Multidimentional Baby does.
429 - GREED HEAD - you shoot fucking coins. tested giving myself 10, 50 and 99 coins, dmg did not appear to go up.
430 - Papafly, familiar Same as Obsessed Fan in movement (3 second delay, follows your movements) but when near an enemy fires tears
435 - Lil Loki!! Familiar with Loki's Horn tear effect (4 way cross shot)
436 - Milk familiar. When hit makes a milk puddle. No idea what the puddle does.
439 - Some box that drops a random trinket when you use it.
441 - Mega Satan Brim, active, shoots a giant mega Satan brim for what seems to be 15-20 seconds, and makes it very hard to move.
>>121225956
>tfw looking at all the screenshots and feeling inadequate because they all are in hard mode.
>>121225956
Look in the achievements list.
See all those new faggoty co-op babies?
Those are for beating shit on hard. Have fun.
>>121225956
yes
every character has an achievement for completing the post-it on hard
>>121225917
It always amuses me that not only is that alphabetically true, but also they are in order on a keyboard
>>121226173
wait it's on hard?
I thought it was just complete the postit
Only things I have left
>Greed Mode, Hush, Mega Satan as the Lost
>Brains challenge
>Speed challenge
And they're all impossible.
>It's a "5% chance to have something happen upon getting hit" item
>>121226025
You abuse the fuck out of the IV Bag in the 20 minutes you have left before it gets patched out of Greed.Then you abuse Piggy Bank with Curse Room Doors
>>121225865
nice
is that why fagmund is adding the content soon
>lilith run
>get lil' chest first floor item room
>AW YEA SON
>get i can see forever
>lodsecoins in secret room
>go to shop through secret room
>car battery
>9 volt
>1 bomb in inventory
>only 10 coins in stock
>nowhere near 999 donation
there is no mercy in isaac
none at all
>>121226313
Greed mode with the lost is easy
Just use the D4 on the item from the free room until you get explosive tears, then use your tears on the reroller machine until you get gnawed leaf and daddy longlegs
>>121226446
no, it was always the plan to add it at 109 hours.
that's when the lost was first unlocked.
>>121226336
>go on wiki
>this item/trinket does a thing sometimes in a blue moon
>fret not, at 75 luck, it triggers every time
>75 luck
>can't remember the last time I had more than a single luck-up pill, let alone multiple luck-up items
Easily my least favorite items.
>>121226025
>tfw I think greed mode with azazel is hard
>I got real platinum god
I just can't deal with short range bullshit, I can't be getting all up in the harder enemies' faces like that.
So, what's happening with the unlocks coming out for real? I got disappointed and haven't really checked shit out recently.
>>121226501
Not true.
Anyone else like to see some kind of end-game where isaac has to fight God and in order to stand a chance at all you need gamebreaking combos?
>>121226481
>go to curse room
>SPIDERS
>beat it
>lil' chest drops tarot card
>the tower
THERE IS MERCY IN ISAAC AFTER ALL
>>121226514
Lucky pennies nigga, unlock them.
>>121226501
uh huh, sure it was. tardmund totally didn't want to stretch this out like the whiny cunt he is.
>>121226336
Cambion Conception and Immaculate Conception are good though, just because their payouts are so high quality.
>>121226578
15 minutes and there will probably be a patch
>>121226602
>get blown up by my own bomb
nevermind
never
fucking
mind
>>121226581
And then when you get past him, you can fight Mega God
post yfw nothing ends up happening in 15 minutes
>>121226514
You can actually get decent levels of luck in Afterbirth if you get lucky pennies.
Before, you'd never have more than like 2 bars of luck. You can easily get to 4 or 5 if you're playing blood banks and stuff.
>>121226283
I had everything complete on Magdalene except for dark room on hard, it was completed on normal though. I got the achievement after beating it on hard
>>121226763
The IV drip is complete bullshit and I love it I dont think I even took damage when I fought greed with it
>>121226313
Speed isn't impossible, it is just a bitch. I managed to get it done purely by luck on my second try.
Got:
Dr Fetus on the first floor
Ipacac on the second floor (caused bombs to explode on contact, which is new, but still behave like bombs, it also made me immune to my own blast damage for some reason, but not normal bombs nor other sources of explosions)
And dunce cap, completely by accident on the next floor, amusingly, this was very beneficial, as it caused the bombs to hit each other immediately, causing both bombs to explode as soon as I hit fire. One shot pretty much everything.
>>121226581
Isaac the fight is Isaac's previous view of himself, as some sort of immaculate perfect christian boy who has no sin whatsoever, like God. Killing Isaac is you accepting your own sin and destroying your previous thoughts of yourself.It's just a theory.
>>121226967A GAYYME THEORY
>>121226763
>>121226514
what's lucky penny? It doesn't look like it's up on the wiki
>>121226967
But Isaac isnt that difficult of a boss if you have good items
>>121227042
it's a game feature that permanently unlocks when you donate 1 cent to greed
there's a chance of pennies boosting your luck by 1 level when you pick them up. it's not rare, but it's uncommon.
I've got brimstone and the pentagram
Do i Take Glass cannon Or Fetus In a jar From the boss rush room?
>>121226082
>398 - Mushroom, shoots a blue tear (based on luck?) that shrinks an enemy if it hits
That effect can happen with Rainbow Worm/3 Dollar Bill, I think
>>121226739
>>121227175
How many hearts/spirit hearts?
How good are you at dodging?
>>121227175
glass cannon: does one enormous huge damage tear, but drops your HP to half a heart (it's free if you have no red hearts)
fetus in a jar: turns your tears into lit bombs that explode. since you have brimstone, you'll fire out bombs while charging up your beam.
5 minutes until nothing
>>121226082
what are these? I have never seen these
>>121227016
Oh, goddamnit, shut the fuck up with that shit.
So much cringe. His content isn't even half bad, but when he closes out with that line, I just feel like wanting to punch something.
>>121227284
I'm prepared
>>121227284
2
MINUTES
TO MIIIIIIIIDNIGHT
>Cursed Challenge
Best possible start.
It's like poetry, yknow? Every scene kinda rhymes with the last one
It's helecopter soldier all over again...
aaa
OH FUCK IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING NOTHING IS HAPPENING
Since when the fuck does Steam do updates at fucking 2:00AM EST, you gullible ding dongs?
>>121227663
not that anything is going to happen, but I'm pretty sure game clients can update independently of the steam client
Nothing happened. Get back to me in a few hours or something.
>>121227359
Items Edmung is keeping from us that data miners found.
>>121227663
It's automated you retarded whoreposter.
one more hours?
Has anyone gotten continuum and brimstone yet?
Does it work?
>>121225917took me a second to get the joke
>>121227714
Ok, anon, will do.
>>121227505
FUCK YOU EDMUND I PAID FOR A FUCKING SEVEN DOLLAR STEAK AND YOU ONLY GAVE ME THREE DOLLARS WORTH JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING STEAK YOU FAT FAGGOT
>>121227771
Yeah, I did.it doesn't
Reminder that ed lives in long beach and it's barely 11 over there so one more hour.
>>121227786
explain
>>121227817
The thing is, it won't turn into a seven dollar steak after you eat it it for a while.
>>121227918
Long Beach, CA? But Anon, it is 11 over there.
>>121227926
l m n O P q r s t
>>121227937
FUCK STEAKS JUST GIVE ME THE CONTENT
>>121226739
something will happen eventually
>>121227993
Thanks mate!
>>121228041
Yeah, and I'm sure we'll get MGS V chapter 3 as well.
>>121227505
George?
>This whole ordeal
How gullible does /boig/ feel right about now?
>>121228167
>blackface
Racism is alive and well in USA.
>>121228243
How does saving the thumbnail feel right about now?
>>121228167
>those big ol' titties and lazy eye
>>121227978
The point is it's not 12 yet.
I'm gonna go to sleep, When i wake up tomorrow im expecting that fucking OPENGL fix so i can play the damn dlc i paid for. If it isn't there im gonna post a picture of mako for no apparent reason.
>>121228684
please don't, anime sux
>>121228684
You have / are / will do that anyway though.
Goodnight Anon.
>>121228548
And after that you'll tell us that Edmund's grandfather had shellshock from the war, so he always lives 109 minutes in the past, so the game will update 109 minutes after it's 12 at Edmund's place.
Cambion Conception is pretty neat, I guess.
Also, easy way to get Super Meat Boy achievement.
Ipecac + Ludovico is very disappointing on Lilith. You get a normal floating tear and your Incubus starts spamming incredibly weak short range Iepcac shots.
>>121228812
ipecac + ludovico is a horrible combination period
So how long till I can sleep? Its getting pretty late here.
12 minutes till NOTHING
>>121228873
I was hoping it would explode on contact, like how Ludovico + Parasyte makes a cloud of splitting tears explode out of the main tear whenever you touch something
Is there anywhere I could what that Tyrone's stream everyone is talking about?
>>121228930
i'm prepared
again
Guys guys we have to wait 109 hours, 109 minutes, and 109 seconds. Stay determined
>>121228930
>>121229148
What? Why? What excuse now?
>>121228994
Firemind+ludo makes the tear explode but then it resets to where you are. Its pretty sucky.
>>121228873
It's not all bad, the Incubus' Ipecac doesn't explode if it hits a wall, so you can't fuck yourself up
Check Steam.
oh OH OHHHH x-files
PATCH
ATCH
TCH
CH
H
OHHHHHH SHHHHHHIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT
OOOOOOOH
Goddamnit, you guys. First MGS V, now with this game.
Rused twice in 2 months. I want to get off of Mr. Bones' wild ride. Fuck you guys, I'm going to bed.
>>121229509
>>121229540
>>121229563
>>121229582
>>121229584
>>121229623
Our treats will eventually come. Unlike MGSV.
yeah buddy
NIGGER THERE WAS NO ARG LEL
I really had a 16 mb patch just now. Restart steam.
>>121229676
bullSHIT
:D
>>121229707
>>121229721
>missing out on the patch
be that way then
>>121229642
i just logged in after the update, started a run as Judas, used the Book of Belial, and got a popup saying
>YOU UNLOCKED: THE BLUE WOMB
not making this shit up
>>121229727
Fuuuuuu
>>121229727
God fucking dammit, it's true.
god I hope this blows right the fuck up in McMuffin's face
he did it, the fucking child really did it
there was no puzzle, he just forced everyone to wait because he's a whiny brat
>>121229727
THANK GOD I DID HER UNLOCKS ALREADY :D
PATCH IS LIVE
blue womb unlocked
>>121229727
are you fucking joking me
good thing I don't have auto updates turned on
As a piratefag, I don't know what the fuck is going on.
>>121229707
>>121229721
>>121229642
Restart Steam, worked for me.
>>121229798
>>121229762
>>121229721
PATCH CONFIRMEDIgnore the time, Steam can't fucking count
HE REALLY DID IT
HE REALLY HID THE ITEMS BEHIND A PATCH
THE ULTIMATE MADMAN
>>121229793
It's infuriating.
>>121229856
as a non piratefag
i don't have a fucking clue either
QUICK SOMEONE GET TO MAXED OUT GREED DONATION MACHINE
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUSH IT PAST 109
>>121229727
>4 room charge speed.
I could kind of understand 3 but this is just awful.
>>121229974
Still pretty good, honestly.
>>121229960
apparently it goes up to 110
>>121229727
>>121230046
oh my god
I would kek so hard
>>121229775
I just started a run, decided to quit the game, and got a message saying I unlocked blue womb.
What the fuck.
>>121229775
>>121230121
judging from the icon, i'm pretty sure it was supposed to automatically unlock when you kill the hush, but it was bugged
>mfw I deleted my old file when I saw the unlock progression being fucked
>told myself I'd finish all the challenges first before I touch the real game
H-hope you guys have fun, I'll be here... raging at Solar System...
>>121230039
add the car battery to that and you should be ok, no game breaking, but ok.
HAHAHAAH they nerfed azazel too
>but it's supposed to be OP as shit guys
Did he fix Ending 17 not unlocking for imported saves?
>>121230121
It may be a "go to the Hush" level unlock - I have been to ??? and gone against the Hush, but haven't beaten it.
>>121229727
rip
>>121230250
Why the fuck would they nerf Azazel now and not when Afterbirth launched?
This is fucking absurd.
They denied us half the content purely because they were upset people didn't want to solve their puzzle for the lost.
>>121230250
Oh well... How much? At first glance he still seems normal.
>>121230214
Yeah, with all the new battery items and the sacks in Afterbirth, it's pretty well-balanced now.
Holy shit Azazel takes so long to charge now this is fucking ridiculous.
new Polaroid?
So it finally happened.
>MissingHud now crashes the game
Bravo Eggman
>>121230250
>>121230310
>>121230413
STOP HAVING FUN IN A SINGLE PLAYER GAME YOU MORONS
You can still double-dip demon beggars. Nice to see that bug from the start of Rebirth still isn't fixed.
HOW PETTY CAN ONE MAN GET
BRAVO
>>121230413
not to mention the rate at which his brimstone inflicts damage seems slower
>>121230405
reduced his damage by roughly 30% and it takes a bit longer to shoot
It goes to show how crazy breaking the reload+IV bag run is when I actively avoided breakfasting the game in an effort to save time, and yet at the chest 3 of the items were breakfast.
>>121230250
Well that kind of fucked the "Azazel is ez" mood of this thread
>>121230469
Probably just needs an update.
>>121229960
Going to do a Greed Run as Judas, I'll let you know as it goes.
STEAAAAK
STEEEEAAAAAAAAAKKKKKK
>he hid shit behind a patch
>he nerfed all the fun shit
shit game, glad I dont support edmund mcshillen
>these huge Azazel and Lilith nerfs
Why? Seriously, why? Daily runs and chellenges have a predefined character, and you still have to use the other characters to get their unlocks. There was no good reason for nerfing them this hard, especially not Azazel, who has been that way for, what, a YEAR?
>>121230413
I'd be 120% fine with this (after all, a Stanley-deals unlockable character being the easiest babby tier character ever? Doesn't make sense), but they should REALLY have unlocked his mini-brim to synergize more with items now that it works like this.
PILL/CARD VOICES ARE GONE
THE NOFUNNERS WON
>>121230618
I'd be pretty mad if I had paid more than seven dollars for this.
>>121230648
Should have been togglable in the options from the start anyway
>>121230648
>PILL/CARD VOICES ARE GONE
Really, was it that hard to make a quick on/off feature?
>Expect happy fun time game
>Proceeds to give every character nerfs on cain levels
What the fuck mcmuffin?
>>121230736
>every character
didn't only Lillith get nerfed with adding 2 charges to her box thing?
>>121229727
OH GOD
it says update queued on my steam
what the fuck do I do
I don't want this shit I'm not ready
SOMEONE HELP
>>121230736
When every character is shit, none of them are.
ANOTHER FOR THE TRASH HEAP
>>121230648
Well done anon. Made me start up Life Gives You Lemons.
6/10 ruse
>>121230645
Yeah, for how risky he is to use against a lot of bosses, especially now, he should definitely have some better synergies.
>>121230776
And Azazel. They heavily nerfed the charge time on his minibrim.Does it affect regular Brimstone too? Anyone?
>>121230776
Judas, Cain in rebirth, azazel, lilith. And honestly half of the other characters that didn't need nerfs were already ass.
>>121230618
Azazel needed a nerf from day 1. It's about FUCKING time that it happened.
Seriously, now Azazel might actually be a fucking challenge.
"No, seriously, I want you to ONLY play as Isaac"
>>121230812
unmark cain and mark samson.
>>121230886
Azazel isn't supposed to be a challenge. He's supposed to be easy mode.
Sweet timing on the update, just finished everything else I could think of.
>>121230812
>Judas
>Bad
Since when?
Isn't DPS the most important thing in the game for normal characters?
>Robot spider shows random damage
What's the point?
Welp I could donate to 112. Also saw one of the locked-out items already.
>>121230886
MAYBE SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN
>>121230894
I basically already did. Now I probably will.
>Brimstone Baby does more damage than Azazel
BELLISSIMO, EDMUND
>>121229727
i'm going to murder you edmund
>>121230938
Which is fine when you're starting out, but everyone with more than 20 hours in rebirth actively avoided playing him.
Hell, as soon as I got back into Rebirth, the first thing I did was knock out everything on Azazel so I wouldn't have to play such an unfun character again.
Now I might be somewhat tempted.
As for Lilith, it's also somewhat deserved. The box will now essentially be like Judas with Book of Belial instead of a crutch for your entire run
>>121230950
judas was good and fun because book of belial allowed you to guarantee yourself devil deals, something no other character could do
his low health + devil deals to sacrifice the little health he has, allowed him to be a glass cannon that required skill and decision making
now he literally just has the bonus damage from the book. it doesn't make up for his base health.
>>121230812
>He thinks Eve is shit.
New trinket: Little larva.
Here's that "Curse of the Tower" one of the dataminers mentioned
POST SCREENCAPS OF BLUE WOMB
PATCH NOTES WHEN
>>121231059
Book still gives +25% devil chance.
Anyone got a torrent for the last version of rebirth? This expansion has been a pretty awful experience.
CANON DOES SOUL HEART DMG NOW
KEK
NO FUN
> glass cannon now takes away soul/black hearts too
>>121231118
Works exactly how he described it
>>121231180
big whoop, not taking red heart damage as isaac gives 100% chance and you get to keep the dice
>>121231163
inb4 its just the hush arena after all
>>121231229
>>121231234
no fun allowed ever
time to never fucking take it again
>>121231229
To be fair it's called "glass cannon", not "devil deal bitch boy cannon"
>>121231069
Eve is terrible. Give 5 reasons why she isn't.Also what the fuck is that picture
>>121231173
>implying that someone who is childish enough to make you wait 109 hours for content would release patch notes.
>>121231229
>>121231234
Happened to me just now. Spent my 15c on it with great eagerness on ???.
My soul hearts were not ready....
>I added shitty items and nerfed everything fun. Take that dataminers >:)
reminder
their one fatal mistake was putting "120 items" on the steam page
if they put 70, nobody would have suspected a thing. people would be freaking their shit in excitement right now
>>121231229
>>121231234
FUCK
WHY
WAI
>>121231294
My only gripe is that all of this work is going into items that you probably won't see that often outside of Greed Mode.
>>121231294
Yeah, now it's the worse than taurus cannon.
>>121231229
>>121231234
haha another item ruined
thanks
>>121231234
So basically he turned it from situational to worthless.
BALANCE!
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/famitsu-review-scores-issue-1405
>The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (PS4) – 7/7/6/8 [28/40]
>Goat Simulator (PS4) – 8/8/8/7 [31/40]
Why don't the Japs like it?
>>121231393
it's pretty clear he had every intention of doing this on purpose to punish those pesky dataminers
muh steak
>>121231272
You lose a % for every previous devil deal you had though. +25% is still good.
Why the fuck did Ed nerf everything?
What's the point of having 500+ items if only 30 of them are usable/viable.
>>121230948
Did you get the blinding baby achievement? I reimported my save, I spent 3 days doing the lost runs trying to beat everything with him (only had to beat hush and mega satan). I finally did it but I didn't get the blinding baby. I really hope I don't have to do it again
>all of these nerfs
>everyone freaking the fuck out
>mfw sitting back and loving every bit
WAAAH THIS GAME ISN'T ULTRA EASY MODE I WANT THIS TO BE LIKE MY COWADOODIES WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>121231234
still good on the lost, at least.
except wait it probably kills him now
>>121231515
afaik it is bugged for everyone and doesnt seem like they fixed it
>>121231546
>>121231546
This game is intended to be broken at times, not everything has to be a challenge
>>121231546
keep taking soy milk tiny planet and pretending you're having fun, dipshit
>>121231475
because it's hard and doesn't hold your hand, and japan is a nation of casuals who play phone games
no cutscenes, no story, real time skill based gameplay, lots of collecting and exploring, secrets, only tutorial is a scribble on the first floor. it's pretty much the antithesis of modern japanese game design.
>>121231341
>Eve is terrible. Give 5 reasons why she isn't.
Literally becomes a better Judas if you just grow a pair and start the first floor by lowering your health to 1 heart. I don't understand how people can rank Eve lower than Judas.
New Item:
Mom's Box -> Drops a random pickup, 4 point recharge. Dropped cancer, still want to hold on to Book of Belial.
Spidermod item.
What did I do to deserve this
i paid money for this game
this is just too much
I just wanted to have fun
it's not like every run is an instant win, or even a quarter of runs are
this wasn't necessary
>>121231617
They liked Dark Souls though (although funnily enough, Famitsu gave Demon's Souls a shit score even though the gameplay is fairly similar)
>>121231594
And there are still combos and items that break the game, however it's only a select few combos and items instead of LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE COMBO AND ITEM
So let me get this straight, if I can't patch the game, I can't get 40% of the DLC's content? Even though I paid for it?
>>121231229
>>121231234
LITERALLY WORSE THAN HITLER
>>121231546
>azazel nerfs kind of needed but why the fuck would they do it this late. I personally think he was fine, nothing wrong with some characters being easy and some being harder (although the lost is still way too far on the unfun bullshit scale)
>liliths is probably fine due to battery items and new ways to get batteries
>brimstone babby does more fucking damage than azazel now
>glass cannon is now basically worthless unless you plan to play the character like the lost
yeah go fuck yourself, its a single player game, there should be a nice range of items, not a few good and rest fucking garbage.
>>121231736
just eat your steak :^)
>>121231673
shows damage and health for every enemy
>>121231341
Whore of Babylon
Good Speed
A better Judas
Best Girl
Most fuckable Girl
Only shitters hate playing Eve.
>>121231673
Gives enemies HP bars and shows how much damage you do to them.
>>121231761
i'm 99% sure that glass cannon now kills the lost
>>121231502
This was always the state of BoI in every version.
Wrath of the Lamb might be an almost exception-like high point. But WotL got some fair nerfs as well, a month or so down the line.
>>121231546
I'd rather have more of the items be fun/usable. I shouldn't have to reroll 90% of the items I come across.
>>121231546
But it's a single-player game. Also, why nerf when on a typical run, you don't have that high of a chance to see everything anyway.
>>121231475
at this point it's a deserving score
>>121231730
>And there are still combos and items that break the game, however it's only .01% instead of a 5%
ftfy
>>121231736
edmund "hitler ramsay" mcmillen, you'll get the last part of your steak when all the jews are dead from fake puzzles
>>121231704
did they though? i always assumed dark souls was pretty much only popular in the west
they also gave shitward sword a 40/40 so basically fuck that publication, that game makes me cry at how bad it is
>>121231761
>Make it so only good character is isaac
>Lock out content for a few days because he's mad at data miners, punishing actual fans as well because why not
>Syrians coming to my country today
I honestly thought this expansion would take me to 1000 hours, now it just made me hate indie devs even more
>>121231831
Rather than nerfing good items, he should just make them rarer or harder to unlock.
>azazel isn't fun to play anymore
>no more pill announcer for no reason
haha epic mcfaggen, simply epic!now you shits know cain's pain
>>121231730
>Literally
>Every
>Single
>Combo
>And
>Item
You're fucking ridiculous, there were still a shitton of items added and items in the game that are mediocre at best and fucking garbage at worst (DUNCE CAP, Mom's Pearls, Epiphoria, Eden's blessing, Farting baby)
>>121231897
If you have a Twitter, someone should tweet that at him.
>>121231880
Nah, Bloodborne sold pretty well in Japan. It's the #3 top-selling PS4 game for them. Not surprising when there's literally nothing else on PS4 right now.
>>121231785
I want this item to be a feature. I'm a sucker for number popups.
hopefully when I wake up someone will have found out how to unlock keeper
unless he's behind an arbitrary timelock as well
>>121231672
I mean, I guess it's nice for challenge runs?
Does it drop in the Boss Room pool?
>>121231736
It's brilliant. Hold half the content hostage to force people to download your update that nerfs characters and items you dislike (even though they didn't really need it)
>Enter greed mode
>"You have unlocked the blue womb"
Thanks?
>>121231761
>>glass cannon is now basically worthless unless you plan to play the character like the lost
Still perfectly viable and balanced, honestly. I've had plenty of dead in the water runs where I would have totally taken the glass cannon for a better chance at completing the run.
Plus, consider that it's in the Item Room Pool, and thus available for most challenges.
999 cents in greed machine only gave me a message saying "if only anyone was as generous as you are." Fucked up the screenshot but there was firework coming out of the greed machine.
Isaac
.
.
.
.
.
Cain
Samson
.
.
Maggy
Judas
Azazel
Lillith
Eve
.
Lazarus
XXX
>>121232036
Shut the fuck up.
>>121231797
as if that character needed even more items that are worthless on him. fucking fat fuck of a dev (or is it nicalis doing these fucking nerfs?)
>>121231886
I 100%'d original at 200 hours (minus the lost which I cheesed before it got patched because fuck that, trying it legit made the game go from fun but hard in cases to fuck you and your fun) and was hoping to get another 50-200, I feel like it might be much closer to 50 if that.
RIP Lilith
2015-2015
Killed by Mcmuffin for being too fun
>>121232131
pick it up you fucking weenie
Seriously why did they get rid of the pill announcer
>>121232131
>still playing this shitshow
>>121231886
>>Syrians coming to my country today
>>121232195
THEY REMOVED THE ONLY GOOD FEATURE?
>>121232195
INFESTED?!
>>121231420
>taurus cannon
What Taurus cannon?
Oh man, this steak tastes way too good
>Not to worry sir
>takes a steaming shit on your steak
Enjoy.
QUICK
http://strawpoll.me/5916950
>>121231515
I think I need to complete boss rush again to get it. I guess you have to complete the full note in Afterbirth to unlock babies, since I got the one for Lilith and Isaac which I did everything with.
>>121232324
INFESTED!
>>121232195
He was annoying when he wasn't saying HEMATEMESIS. And then it was still annoying because you accidentally ate a hemo pill, but I suppose that part's still there.
>>121232324
EX-PLOSIVE DIARRHEA
I don't know if this was tested by someone but throwing chaos cards kills him again somehow.
>>121232114
Not surprised that it's just a bragging rights reward.
Did you unlock anything on the way to it?
>Time gated content
>Nerfing azazel this late into the games life
Im mad
>>121232324
ARE YOU.. A WIZARD?
What are you missing the announcer for?
If I just start up Life Gives You Lemons, the announcer is still there for Lemon Mishap.
>>121232343
At least you enjoy yourself after a while with Shitmund.
>They got rid of the pill/rune/card announcer instead of just making it optional
>4 charges on Lilith
Amazing patch dude
>>121232343
Edmund is Satan but Phil is Mega Satan.
>>121232374
but why wasn't it literally just optional from the start instead fo being incredibly polarizing and then being removed for no discernible reason? us indie devs huh
>>121232406
No rewards no unlocks nothing at all. Fireworks and it exploded after 999 >>121232383
>>121232458
Because Eggmund is an idiot.
does the greed machine unlock more shit?
I just got an item with the effect "Intensifying Tears" but I already have Epic Fetus so I have no clue what it does
>>121232454
>Phil is Mega Satan.
Satan would be offended.
>krampus didn't drop anything
EDMUND
What did they do to Azazel
I found one.
>>121232553
If you fire in one direction continuously your fire rate increases until you stop. Doubt it does anything with Ebin.
>>121232586
~30% less damage, longer charge.
>>121232638
>~30% less damage, longer charge.
JUST
Rebirth was quite possibly my favourite game, I would play it when I was bummed to feel better about shit and hell half the time it would work really well.
When I saw that the game was getting an expansion I was hype as fuck and preordered that shit within an hour of it being announced. Playing what I was given feels like an insult, this isn't a game made by somebody wanting to continue a game or to please their fans. This is an expansion by a dev with a chip on his shoulder, he's punishing all of his fans because he was mad about the fact people datamined how to unlock his retarded unlockable lost shit. The blue womb which is pretty much the only new shit in the normal game would cause the game crash for people for the first 3 days. He made it so that the only character that is worth playing is isaac for god knows why and for some reason he buffed krampus but didn't give him an item pool to make it worth it. You lost a life long fan mcmillen, I hope your petty bullshit was worth it.
Did Epic Fetus + Brimstone do this before Afterbirth?
>>121232668
FUCK
is it time to add edmund to the list of devs to never give money to again?
>>121232638
>~30% less damage, longer charge.
I've watched several of my favorite series/games turn to shit this year. Kill me now.
>>121232586
the good die young
Edmund's stance on fun. Pic related
>>121230886
>nerfing anything in a single player game
>>121232569
Ah.
>>121232698
Yes
>>121232632
great more fucking bean items jesus christ
>>121232685
Greed mode is pretty fun Tbh
>>121232801
not anymore
>>121232692
No.
>>121231058
>Now I might be somewhat tempted.
Literally all they did was nerf his damage. All they changed was how long it takes for him to do anything.
People who actively avoided playing him aren't going to start now since he's exactly the same but takes longer.
>>121232738
What's that for?
I don't even wanna play. Who knows what else is still locked, my imported save's progression still seems janked, the goofy announcer that I liked is either broken or removed intentionally, and from a glance at reddit, there's some new bugs maybe.
Was it worth it, Fatmund? Couldn't you just release it in full, proper, not breaking my save file with your half-baked attempt at gating your content? Maybe I'll play this again once I had my fill with SW Battlefront, perhaps by then the game will be in it's "as was intended" shape.
>>121232685
Hey man, remember you can always disable the DLC and play normal Reborn if you wanted to.
Not everyone is thrilled, but your game is still there, you just need to remove the DLC :)
>>121232692
No.
>>121232708
I'm just baffled by Ed's mindset in general.
>wants people excited for his game but doesn't want them actually looking for information about it
>wants people to have fun but actively removes anything that makes the game slightly less bullshit
It's like he subconsciously hates everyone.
Hm, it's a trinket
What the fuck is he doing to the game?
He's quickly losing a long time fanboy. I'm definitely never preordering his shit again. They say don't preorder anything but I thought Afterbirth was a safe bet. How could it be fucked up? It couldn't.
>>121232750
Dark Bum was pretty game breaking.
>>121232863
I have no idea.
>You cant continue runs after Hush anymore, just get a golden chest
Thanks
>>121232930
So is Epic Fetus, so is Brimstone, so is Quad Shot, so is anything good.
BoI was never balanced and it should never be, some items are better than others, yeah so what, that's how you win a run.
i still get the annoucer for telepills, nothing else though
>>121232893
How do I disable updates from steam
I don't care if I have to put steam offline
I have until 5:22 until my copy of afterbirth is fucked forever.
>>121232632
>It's just a bigger poison cloud.
Hold on to your butts, everybody.
I remember reading so many interesting suggestions when he asked for them on reddit. What happened? It's not like he couldn't think of anything better. He had people DO that FOR him.
This whole expansion has been such a fucking shitfest.
First when it came out it fucking crashed for nearly everyone, achievements were absolutely fucked and post it notes are still fucked I'm pretty sure so I hope you memorized everything you did.
And then we find out he's withholding content to spite people who datamined the game acting like a complete child.
And then in the update to spite the dataminers he nerfs fun items and characters, for whatever fucking reason, and breaks shit again.
Jesus fucking Christ, how disappointing.
>>121232913
>Fagged Polaroid
>It has a picture of Edmund McMulan
COM
ED
Y
>>121232913
Makes you transparent sometimes?
>>121232971
what the fuck
IT'S NOT AN END GAME BOSS TYRONE
>>121232930
Dark Bum in the original is the prime example of why yes, some items do need to be nerfed. Dark Bum has been nerfed maybe six times, and it's STILL extremely good. It's more a demonstration of the fact that they don't do any playtesting than anything.
>>121232987
It's a big poison cloud and it makes a Cage-like crack in the ground in a random direction.
>>121232913
>we have to do a fucking trinket thing again for blue womb
BRAVO
>>121232984
put steam offline
go into "properties" and put updates to "only update when I launch"
as long as you launch offline, it won't update
ITS HABBENING BLUE WOMB UNLOCKED
>>121232987
He actually said that all of the suggestions on Reddit were terrible and he only used maybe five of them.
>character has high risk/high reward
>remove reward
>increase risk
Edmund "If you're having fun, I'll show you my gun" Mcmillen
Can confirm, you can donate over 109 coins to Ultra Greed. I had fucking jack all on me so I only got to 112. Unsure if there are any extra unlocks.
>>121233068
Alternatively, there should be a "Only update when I say" option as well.
>can't restore Greed mode completion with The Lost
Fucking A+.
>>121232971
...That's not what I meant when I wished for Ending 17 to get fixed.
>>121233121
im slowly starting to think edmund doesnt know whats good for this game either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X9tQZFzijc
Thread theme
>>121232343
Voted edmund because I didn't read the other option but yeah phil fish is legit worse
>I'm allowed to talk shit about everything I don't like, including all japanese games and shit
>someone called me out on my bullshit, better cancel overrated, the game: 2 electric boogaloo on fucking twitter
So, uh, devil deals don't automatically switch heart types anymore.
Is that a bug or was it actually meant to be like that all along and the 'fix' in afterbirth was the bug?
>>121232156
If you think Lilith is bad now then you're just a babby who needs to be carried by OP shit every run
BLUE WOMB ISN'T EVEN A FLOOR
IT'S JUST HUSH
AND NOW THE GAME ENDS WHEN YOU BEAT HIM
>>121233224
who fucking knows with these Nicalis idiots
I'm still convinced the "can't bomb into stores/item rooms/etc" was a feature they thought was great before they realized it literally broke the game
The greed mode rerolling things now explode when you bomb them.
>>121232195
They didn't, he's still there for some pills.He's annoying.
>>121233251
Edmund "Out the hatch when you open my patch" Mcmillen
>>121232919
It's like everything I ever get hyped for in my life turns out to be shit. No, not just shit, but rather shat on.
Like, not even just games. Is this the end times? Why is this happening to us?
>>121233251
>>121233191
>>121232971
Has anyone tried to beat Hush with the Faded Polaroid yet?
>>121233251
>BLUE WOMB ISN'T EVEN A FLOOR
>IT'S JUST HUSH
Wait, he seriously fucking removed the store and 2 item rooms?
>>121232131
got it in the same room
"penny tears"
>tfw your favorite characters never get praised more than others so they'll be the last to get nerfed
Still doesn't feel great.
>>121232930
YOU DON'T GET IT EVERY FUCKING RUN
Yes there are good items and bad items
Holy shit, play 50 games on hard and tell me how game breaking dark bum is when you see him 5 out of those 50 times, and you don't get many red hearts in hard mode either.
Yeah, I remember when I was playing as the Lost in hard mode and dark bum made it an instant win, got up to mega satan in 5 minutes and beat him in 5 seconds. Dark bum was a real game breaker, yeah.kill yourself
>>121233347
It's still there, it's just exactly the same as it was before the patch.
how will NorthernLion defend this one?
>>121233347
He did not remove store and item rooms.
>>121233000
>tfw we're beta testing the DLC for the PS4/Vita release.
Us PC gamers, huh?
>>121233303
>>121233251
God damn it I hadn't done the Lost shit yet.
>only two games I got legitimately excited for in my creaky old jaded heart were Metal Gear Solid 5 and Binding of Isaac Afterbirth
>both were extremely fucked up and unfinished
I don't even have a reaction image. I'm just done caring about stuff. Everything I show an interest in falls apart.
What's the quote about edmund wanting to do something no developer had ever done before because of the lost datamining? His grand idea was to tine-gate content. Does he really think nobody has done this before?
>>121233406
devil deal president, guppy guppy bossrush timer
>>121233406
"It still makes me money so whatever"
>robo spider shows enemy HP
THANK YOU BASED GOD
>>121233406
"It's Edmund's game and he can do what he wants with it, I know the community's a little upset right now, but he's the developer so let's just give it a try and see how it goes."
The dude is just way too fucking polite to call anyone out on their bullshit.
>>121233461
haha but you don't get it
he outsmarted the dataminers :)
you can't mine what isn't there :)))))))
>afterbirth has actually LOWERED the number of usable characters
Thanks, Edmund "literally never play anybody other than Isaac and Eden" McMuffin
>>121233456
Seriously.
Glad I don't like Fallout because if I were looking forward to that I don't think I could take it.
>>121233251
That's some kind of dank joke, right?
>>121233303
That was already the case.
>>121233456
I have one for you
Anyone have Blue Baby tips? need to get some unlocks on the road.
>>121233406
"It's my main source of income so I'm not going to criticize it."
That's literally it.
Why would he call the main game he plays bad or disappointing? Career suicide.
>>121233204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYEK_yvIWas
did u rike it evrybody?
>>121233456
>Metal Gear Solid 5 turns out be one of the biggest disappointments of my fucking life
>Binding of Isaac is getting shit on constantly
>Might Number 9 is just what ever
>Silent Hill canceled
Just kill me now
>>121233514
He's Canadian.
>>121233318
I got a seed with Faded Polaroid if anyone wants to try and a new Devil Deal Item called Black Powder and you can do pic related; you walk in a circle and you drop powder on the floor as you walk, if you do it in a circle you get this.
3GGL
1LHN
Trippy
>>121224693
Late as fuck, but no, anon.
Poopsocking is a real term, decades old.
>>121233461
Has anybody ever time-gated advertised content and then lied that you had to solve a puzzle to unlock it before?
How many items were there when afterbirth was released, when ed promised 120?
>>121233539
>That was already the case.
No it wasn't, I bombed one earlier today.
>>121233406
permanent polaroid invincibility
Wait, so does your run end now upon beating Hush, or do you still get the paths?
>>121233520
I guess he played destiny before the release of aftherbirth. Got an ebic idea off bungie.
>>121233627
like 20
I got a new familiar.
Bumbo: "Bumbo want coin!"
No coins here so I can't test what he does.
>>121233631
It happened with me on Afterbirth release - I was trying to get Secret Rooms and I fucking rerolled a great item because I bombed it.
>character I played in vanilla flash game
Cain, Isaac
>characters I played in WotL
Cain, Isaac, ???
>characters I played in Rebirth
Isaac, Eden, Judas
>characters I play now
Isaac, Eden, might play Cain again, have to test him more.
>>121233539
I highly doubt they exploded before, I got pyro and went through 77 bombs worth of rerolling on one floor without anything exploding
>>121233309
I don't know why, but I laughed my ass off.
Fuckin' anon and his memes right here.
Why does every patch break the entire fucking game?
>>121233661
It ends after Hush. Just did it with Lilith, picked up Polaroid before fighting him.
>>121233573
Undertale GOTY
>>121233705
No, the machine explodes and can't be used again now you dingus.
>>121233701
He was datamined, he eats some coins and then transforms? Don't know what he does afterwards.
>>121233735
Well fuck. Guess I'm going straight to Mega Satan then.
Why is this happening?
post yfw redditors actually defend this update
>>121233740
Guess since I probably won't be playing isaac much anymore, I might as well try undertale
>>121233773
Your punishment must be more severe
>>121233709
>>121233631
I guess I might have accidentally put a coin in it. I stand corrected.
Welp, that is it everybody. Isaac is dead.
Riperoni in pizza
>>121233740
>Cancerous fanbase.
You win some, you lose some.
>blue womb is fucking nothing
oh well
>>121233751
yep
basically a meat boy but you feed him
no more bombs, idk if he gets bigger
>>121233813
r/bindingofisaac seems miffed overall
not foaming-at-the-mouth autismo rage, but definitely unhappy
>>121233740
>>121233816
Undertale is alright. Its nothing special. Except for the god awful art direction and pixel art the game doesn't really have anything negative about it.
>>121233813
>>121233904
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3rgxzx/jesus_enough_with_the_complaining/
I remember way back when the lost was datamined and Edmund went on NL's stream to talk about it and NL asked how he felt and he responded "why don't you just datamine my heart to find out", and everybody laughed, because he was joking about it so it wasn't a big deal.
Little did we know the depths of the salt within.
>>121233853
A-are you retarded?
Reading comprehension motherfucker.
Someone upload this real quick:
http://moddingofisaac.com/mod/16/isaaccharactereditorWithout the virusthanks
>>121233406
YouTube faggotry Guppy items still not nerfed.
YouTubers just have to transform to Guppy in every video. Kids get hyped "WILL HE TRANSFORM INTO GUPPY THIS TIME!!!!??" Then they do and they click the upvote button.
There, I just spoiled every paid YouTuber who does BoI runs. Faggot turns into Guppy, clears rest of the game in 10 minutes.
>>121233813
how the fuck do you find the isaac thread
all I see in gaming are star wars and fallout 4 threads
what a clsuterfuck
>>121233964
>sorting by new
>won't get enough votes to even see the front page of the subreddit
that's practically cheating
I'm sure there are some retards here who think it was a good idea as well
like this guy >>121231546
Why so much hate for Edmund. You bitch after every update but after some time everyone is calm again.
>>121233539
Book of Revelations and Satanic Bible help. Use them all the time. Make those devil deals.
>Az got gutted
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>121234068
/r/bindingofisaac/
Go nuts.
>Nerf Lilith
>Balanced in Greed Mode
>Completely fucking awful in everything else
>>121234040
The guppy dream is real, all we have to do is our due diligence and not take any dumb damage.
Beating Hush gives a new ending now
>>121233813
>>121233904
>>121233964
I don't know man, I'm getting pretty dehydrated reading the comments, a lot of people are pretty fucking salty
>>121233904
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3rgt7p/patch_is_out/
nah they seem to be a bit pissed.
>>121233461
I'm sure the last unlockable character will be unprecedented proportions of stupidity in it's unlocking process.
>>121234040
>every fucking thing except guppy has been nerfed
what the fuck?
>>121234081
It was the first result in rising. Rising is a good indication it will go somewhere. Maybe not frontpage but higher up.
>>121233917
I don't hate pixel art at ALL, I love it actually, but Undertales' sprites are not that great.
Like look at this mspaint circle what the hell.
Anyway, on topic of Isaac:
Cain the new king of Greed Mode?
>>121233878
>paying attention to any fanbase at all
that's your fault anon
>>121234139
fucking northernlion
>>121234140
We already had that ending. Not new.
>>121234135
oh that's how it works
I was looking in a different forum
this pic is cool
And that's all she wrote.
Ladies and gentlemen, your "Expanded main game - a new final area with a new final boss".
>>121234217
Isn't that caused by the movements anyway?
>>121234291
We did? I don't remember getting the ending from beating Hush before the update but I might've skipped it
>>121234279
alright, are you ready for the shitty ARG to unlock the keeper?
>Wake up
>Decide to do Lilith runs
>See this
I don't even care anymore
>Use the Emperor Card
>"The Emperor"
So he didn't remove the announcer he just broke it somehow
>>121234217
Eve can danger mode her way through Greed Mode easy.
74, according to platinumgod.
79 if you count the trinkets.
So are there literally any unlocks between 109 coins and 999 coins?
>>121234352
It was broken before this patch. Ending 17 only worked on clean saves.
>tfw you realise that this was all planned so people had played too much of the game to be able to refund it
>Azazel is ez mode edition
THINK AGAIN, FUCKFACE
>>121234352
It was because you couldnt get the chest after the hush fight that you get now unless you hadnt unlocked it lives yet.
>Devil deals now don't change from red to blue hearts instantly...it feels like it was reverted but to pre-afterbirth isaac
what
that's fucking bullshit, that was a good change
>>121234179
also on rising
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3rgtk0/dick_move_edmundtyrone/
>Azazel
>already the least fun character, but at least he was powerful
>now least fun and shit as well
>I didn't do Greed Mode Lost before it got nerfed
>I didn't do Azazel's unlocks before he got nerfed
>nicails in charge of being competent
no wonder pixel ditched those pieces of shit
>>121234171
And it will be either dogshit bad, or actually good and then nerfed within a week to be dogshit bad.
Lilith was good for five days.
Five.
fuck this shit lads
>>121234482
>The absurd thing is that we (I count myself in as I was following the dataminers IRC chat) had fun unpacking the data and testing the new items before they were released. They only fucked with the "legit" part of the community.
So much this. Edmund fucked up.
>>121234442
Since they patched out IV Bag I haven't' had a chance to get a lot of coins to donate, highest I've got to is 112.
On the Binding of Isaac Wikia, the achievements had not changed and the last reward isCain starting with a Paperclipat 68.
>>121234602
>implying they will refund you after a few days of content
>>121234646
i wonder what edmund's reaction to the outrage will be.
Edmund "I have no idea how to balance the game" McMillen
>>121234681
"calm down nerds"
>>121234653
they have no way of tracking whether you were playing the DLC or the base game
>remove all afterbirth achievements with SAM
done
>>121234579
Full pic?
>>121234681
GAMERS ARE HORRIBLE I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DON'T LIKE MY GIFT TO THEM
YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUNNIEST FUCKING PART IS?
THE DATAMINERS FOUND ALL THE REMAINING ITEMS AND WERE TESTING THEM FOR HOURS BEFORE THIS PATCH
SO THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO GOT SCREWED
ARE THE NON-DATAMINERS, WHO HAD HOPE
>>121234681
probably another retarded food comparison
What really pisses me off is that they are still annoyed about the fact that the lost got datamined.
They never mention that /v/ was about to solve the puzzle and it would only take a day at most. I remember that thread, they had all the pieces when someone linked the reddit thread. They still believe that it would take us weeks or months to find out.
>>121234442
I tested it - nothing but >>121232114
>>121234579
I know that feel
>>121234681
probably some smug shit up his own ass
>>121234729
>edmund hasn't added new achievements
smart I guess
OH MY GOD
OH MY GOD
THEY ONLY ADDED 20 NEW ITEMS
WE'RE STILL 20 SHORT
>name of the expansion is Afterbirth
>the content we got at the start was the birth
>the content we got later was the afterbirth
This was planned. All the content was finished, but it was withheld purposefully.
>>121234868
that doesn't make it any less fucking retarded
>these ass backwards changes
Not even balancing or making the game more difficult or challenging, just making it less fun because it's now much more tedious
>>121234860
edmund needs to off himself immediately.
>>121234579
Nigga I haven't even gotten around to unlocking Lost yet, I've missed all of the easy wins
So in another 109 hours when they finish the rest of the content they are gonna release this new character. Can't wait for that one.
question /boig/, If edmund said he was going to just update the game over the course of time before it was released would you still be mad.
>>121235014
Aren't there files for 2 new ones? The blue things Hush spawns supposedly have an animation for getting an item.
what is wrong with people
>>121234904
It makes it more retarded, because it wasn't done under time constraints, and instead was pre-planned.
>Can't infinibomb your way to Gnawed Leaf + Daddy Long Leds on The Lost anymore
Fuck. I should have done that when I had the chance. Guess I won't be doing Lost Greed mode until I can just cheat.
I just don't understand why he thinks that nerfing characters that don't require holding R until they get a good item is 'game balancing'.
>>121234860
God fucking dammit. I hope the dataminers find all of them just to spite Edmund "leave your fun at the door" McMillen.
what a fucking mess of a release
and they're already talking about new DLC for next year
fuck
YOU
if you think i'm buying that shit
>>121235054
yes, because the items were still in the fucking game.
>>121234868
>This was planned.
No shit?
That just gave me chills, man.
>>121235072
>Guess I won't be doing Lost Greed mode until I can just cheat.
this
I no longer feel any aversion or shame about cheating in this fucking game
i may be a fool, but i honestly don't understand the salt over any of this
>>121235072
What did he do?
looks like sounds might be bugged in general, it keeps playing the boss kill sound when I only kill one of the haunt's familiars...
>glowing baby still not fixed
baka desu senpai kek
>>121235072
There are already cheat engine tables to cheat with. One lets you buy all shop items for free. Just turn it on and buy everything with the lost. Eventually devil deal items start to filter into the pool so you will get guppy/9 lives.
>>121235067
>I buy a taco
>Given an empty taco shell
>4 days later everything else comes.
>B-but I still got muh taco
you know what's funny? they keep nerfing items but they will never change rng attacks and bullshit rooms
the thing about nerfing items is that people will only play isaac because they can reroll those shitty items.
>>121234326
The stretching? No. The sprite being pointed to is the sprite extracted straight from the game's files.
It's a nit pick, but it shows that the game isn't that great sprite wise.
i got the greed head item out of a blue chest on the womb
Greed Head - penny tears
too bad i already have brim and moms knife
>>121235067
I think more people are unhappy than defending it. See: Disparity of upvotes on the main patch thread.
>>121235173
People are mad about some meh nerfs in the balance.
The real shitshow is how the game was just broken - straight up broken - until this time-gated content got released, and still feels broken.
Like, can't we just have a clean, already finalized balance, non-save breaking DLC released as a whole, instead of just going full "Elephant in a China shop" with a half-baked attempt at an ARG?
UPDATED TIER LIST
Azazel Tier:
Empty
God Tier:
Isaac
Good Tier:
Eve, Samson
Okay Tier:
Cain, Lilith, ???, Maggy
Bad Tier:
Judas
Shit Tier:
Lazarus, Azazel, The Lost
Random Tier:
Eden
>>121235206
If you mean what I said about the Lost combo, Edmund changed the Item Refresher machine so that it blows up after bombing it (before if you had an infinite source of explosions, like the Fetus items, you could infinitely reroll items with it).
He also nerfed Azazel hard (~30% less damage, way longer charge time) and increased Lilith's Box of Friends item charge time to 4 ticks. Both were characters I could see myself using without having to just hold R until I got a good first item room item. Now they're characters I will likely never ever use after unlocking their things, because Isaac is the only good character for not holding R to start again.
And if you meant the third thing, 120 items were promised in the Steam page for Afterbirth. It was released with roughly 70 of them, with this patch adding only 20. Meaning there are still around 30 items that aren't in the game yet.
All because fuck fun and fuck dataminers (but let's screw everyone anyway).
>>121235173
>neckbeard indie dev manchild gets mad when >people spoil a secret in a video game
>holds a grudge for an entire fucking year
>launches a new video game
>withholds a large chunk of promised content
>leads everyone to think the withheld content is actually in the game
>drops a bunch of "hints" revolving around a number that just so happens to correlate to how long it took for the original secret to get spoiled
>flips a switch and releases the rest of the content when he's done patting himself on the back for being an epic troll
I will bet cash fucking money that one of his first tweets tomorrow is some variation on "I hope you all learned your lesson! :^)" and probably another fucking steak metaphor.
>>121235369
Talking about sprites, the Lil Loki sprite is kinda disappointing. When modding gets back in style i'm definitely going to improve it with sprites i've made my self.
Was this a thing before?
>>121235458
>Judas
>bad tier
He's as good as he was in the original game.
bombing keepers gets you this head
Who /Nuclear Throne/ here?
getting back into Isaac has been a trial
It feels so slooow
>>121235547
Judas used to get guarantee Devil rooms
>>121235458
Judas is still great. Probably next to isaac in my favorite characters to play.
Lost deserves to be in a tier of his own.
>>121235547
Book of Belial's devil deal chance was lowered in the dlc.
>>121235458
I agree with this
>>121235524
Fuck off mcmuffin.
>>121235547
Anon... you don't know do you?
Have we seen the faded Polaroid yet? Just got it out of Mom's Box
>>121235547
No more guaranteed devil rooms for having Book of Belial
>>121235524
Also could someone with the greedhead item check out if money = power or the greedhead item shows something?
>>121235381
>IT'S GOOD BECAUSE DEVIL DEALS NEED STRATEGY NOW
>half the devil deals have 0 fucking items anyway
why
I'm honestly going to go play WotL until a fan mod comes out tha fixes all the dumb bullshit
>>121235524
If you mean the new collection page, it was added when Afterbirth first launched, not during this patch.
>>121235458
>>121235547
Well, no, Book of Belial WAS nerfed, but I agree, he should be at least in the Okay Tier, he still gets a huge damage increase plus extra chance for Devil Room/Angel Room by default.
Other than that, I would agree with this. I don't have enough experience with Lilith to make a judgement.
>>121235604
gonna buy it if my afterbirth refund goes through
>>121235547
I debated putting him in Okay Tier but he's just an inferior glass cannon to Eve now that his book got shit on.
>>121235425
it's just kind of inane. i see people flipping a shit about the krampus or w/e and it's like "how could you possibly care." or like how azazel was this universally unpopular character but now changing him is unacceptable
>>121235524
Yes, new in Afterbirth.
>>121235608
>>121235623
>>121235630
>>121235637
ORIGINAL game. It wasn't guaranteed in WoTL.
>>121235660
No the "where are you" thing only happens with money = power thats why I'm asking. I wouldn't be suprised if this is a new thing to fuck with us.
>this update
>>121235592
well of course I forgot the pic
you all know what I was talking about anyway
>>121235608
>>121235623
>>121235608
he's talking about the flash game
i got an item called toxic shock, it was curse of the blind so i couldnt get a shot of it on a pedestal.
but its the biohazard symbol in my hud.
some form of poison
>>121235458
How the actual fuck is Blue Baby better than Judas
>>121235749
were talking about Afterbirth you dipshit
What is the point of heavy nerfs in a single player game
What is the point of staggering content in a single player game
>>121235739
He was unpopular because he was boring, but powerful.
Now he's boring and shitty. Good balance, make everyone but Isaac garbage.
Next Isaac's starting D6 is going to be taken away, then every character can be shit together and the game's place as a suffering simulator can finally be claimed.
>>121235750
Oh, I didn't even notice that. It's very likely a reference to the Keeper, potentially a piece of the puzzle for unlocking him.
>>121235795
Oh, that's the thing that makes it so each time you enter a room a giant cloud of poison gas appears, right?
>>121235816
Are you retarded, anon?
>>121235821
>single player
daily runs :^)
>>121235845
D6 now a 17 room charge
ISAAC GAME TIERS:
>Great tier
Vanilla
WotL post chest patch
Rebirth pre patches
>Good tier
Afterbirth pre patch
WotL pre chest patch
>OK tier
Rebirth post patches
>Garbage tier
Afterbirth post patch
>>121235821
Because shit devs
Because McMuffin is STILL asshurt
>>121235846
yea it does gas a room.
>>121235810
Blue baby is a real nigga.
If you want a glass cannon you may as well just use Eve, Judas has no meaning in his life anymore.
>>121235846
Thats why I'd like to know if the greedhead shows something on the item collection. >>121235795 could you confirm for me please.
>>121235884
wait, what happened with the rebirth patches?
I stopped playing it before any major changes.
>>121235739
I mean I agree with you, balance changes aren't that big a deal. It's the broken state of the game that pisses me off.
It feels like we're back to Flash version again. Broken sounds, broken krampus reward, broken secret rooms adjacent to special rooms, broken saves, broken progression, broken breaking bark bark bork. I just can't play the game like this.
So how many achievements does Rebirth have?
I'm thinking if I've completed enough of it to get Afterbirth. Currently sitting at 163, and that's without any of the Lost achievements.
Can I uninstall this update?
Can I uninstall this DLC?
I want to have fun.
Are you enjoying your steak, fuckers?
>>121235948
Devil deal fags getting assblasted like usual.
Dark Bum and Krampus Head needed a nerf, but they don't think it did.
>>121236051
no
yes, uncheck the dlc in steam.
>>121236059
I asked for chicken.
I think the devs just play a couple runs with a character, and if they aren't losing 90% of the time they bring in the nerfs. They don't want the game to be fun, they want it to be a tedious slog where you can do everything right and still die, and maybe, if you're really lucky, the game will decide to let you win now and again. Maybe.
>>121235926
That doesn't make him worse than Blue Baby. Blue Baby has NOTHING going for him. He's Lazarus Tier. Start him off with Revelations and he can be a pseudo-Maggy.
>>121236059
Go die in a hole, Edmund, better yet, go commit twitter suicide like Fish.
>>121235948
Just item nerfs and character changes as far as I can remember.
>look at all these cool synergies
>what do you mean you're not having fun? SYNERGIES
>>121235931
it does
>Azazel can't even 1-shot spiders
>>121236079
I'm fine with Krampus and Dark Bum as they are
What's BULLSHIT is that half of all Devil AND Angel rooms at this point have no items, just Hearts or Chests.
>>121235458
Cain is now better than everyone who isn't Isaac. though.
>>121236126
>NOTHING going for him
He's a real nigga, I just told you.
You got rocks in your ears, son?
>>>>121236153
I got that.
it makes your shots randomly drop pennies
it's actually really good.
>>121236059
This steak is burnt to shit, and I ordered a turkey burger anyway.
When hovering over a dollar bill in the collection menu, there's a "x10" that appears beneath it.
>>121236153
So its only on money = power so far. I guess Its just another 109 epik prank :^)
Thanks for checking though.
>Still working on my rebalance mod
>It will be the most popular thing because everybody will want to undo the damage of Afterbirth
>>121236190
Real niggas don't play with their own shit.
Actually you know what he can keep The Poop if you also give him Petrified Poop. Now he's almost slightly better than Lazarus. Almost.
>>121236169
I never asked for this
>>121236295
you will be too late to save this shit game
EDMUND YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>121236343
>>121236385
Azazel was too fast. He needed to slow down ;^)
>>121236315
Yes they do, look at Africa.
>Fatmillan attends a lot of conventions.
I hope he's ready for the verbal harassment, from the cesspool that are con goers.
>>121236385
More like ASSZAZEL
>>121236003
I think it was 178 (or 176, I can't remember).
>>121236185
How so? Paper Clip is a good trinket, but it doesn't fully offset how much better Eve and Samson are.
>>121236421
They don't eat so they don't poop.
>>121236412
>people say azazel is OP
>azazel gets buffed
>people say azazel is supposed to be OP
>azazel becomes one of the worst characters in the game
>Azazel nerf
>Still haven't redone his Greed Mode run
He was already shit in Greed Mode IMO, thanks Fatman
The irony of this thread title after the nerfbat is hilarious
>Devil Room
>3 chests
>2 spiders in each
Gee, thanks edmund
>glass canon
>crickets head
>lusty blood
Oh i am cummin
>nerfing Azazel for no reason
>nerfing Judas for no reason
STOP
STOP
THIS IS NOT A COMPETITIVE MULTIPLAYER GAME
STOP NERFING THINGS
>>121236537
>OP is Edmund
>Use a PS3 controller
>Use the joy stick
>Absolutely hate holding the joystick in a direction to charge up shots
>mfw this Azazel nerf
>>121236537
You know Eggmund comes here right?
He probably saw that and did it for fun.
>>121236385
>Damage: 3
Good night sweet prince.
>Vocal Majority says Azazel is baby mode and therefore shit.
>Vocal Majority cries when he's nerfed.
Developing your game based on the vocal majority's opinions is the epitome of bad game design. Leave it up to a raggedy-assed Newgrounds fucknugget of an indie developer to go ahead and demonstrate this for us.
>>121236574
Glass cannon takes away soul hearts. Don't do it Anon
>>121236591
Sorry, but Az wasn't nerfed for no reason
>>121235795
I just got it as my first item.
It's a big green biohazard symbol and it poisons every enemy as soon as you enter a room.
Seems really strong early as I don't even have to kill shit.
>>121236591
daily runs
>>121236619
>You know Eggmund comes here right?
Elaborate
>>121236621
>Damage: 3
Wasn't it always like that? That's Judas damage isn't it?
Strange. The dollar says x10 and the quarter says x4 x10 now.
Ugh this is pissing me off.
>>121236621
A better way to do this was to either take away his flight or take away his brimstone but give him stronger tears
>>121236591
Maggy got buffed. Using Yum Heart now gives a 100% chance for Angel rooms.Get fucked devilfag:^)
>>121236574
glass cannon got a huge nerf. sucks now
>>121236632
Worth it. Although that does explain why i start every floor with half a red heart now.
>>121236682
PEOPLE FUCKING CHEAT ON THOSE WHO CARES
LOOK AT THE TOP SCORES
THEY HAVE LIKE 8 BILLION POINTS
Why is everyone freaking the fuck out and why does afterbirth have an update queued?
>>121236757
bring it up with edmund.
>>121236682
so what? everyone has the same access to the same stuff. daily runs were a stupid addition in the first place, given how differently the game works from your standard roguelite
>>121236724
>More Angel rooms
>A buff
laugh my ass off
>>121236704
>take his flight away
Then some rooms would be impossible with his short range. His whole point was to be a melee character.
>>121236759
if you want to have fun with afterbirth don't update
>>121236759
DON'T UPDATE.
Edmund nerfs everything fun in Afterbirth and the time-gated items aren't that great.
>>121236724
Do Angel Room ever fucking give anything besides Soul Hearts, Eternal Hearts or coins now?
>20+ ITEMS STILL LOCKED EVEN AFTER THIS PATCH
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>121236595
HOWS YOUR STEAK
>>121236724
What do you have to back that up?
>>121236875
Sometimes they would give you Breath of Life?
>>121236837
>>121236875
>time-gated
>nerfs everything
GOOD FUCKING DAMMIT STEAM WHY DO YOU AUTO UPDATE EVERYTHING
>>121236648
then why did it take so fucking long after release, you cocksniffing moron? edmund is a salty fuck and you're a stupid fanboy cuntrag.
kill yourself
I am genuinely never buying anything on Day 1 again.
I was done with big gaming after MGSV anyway, but I didn't think this would be just as bad
>>121236648
Hello Edmund, but seriously I don't play as Azazel because he was so powerful, but the tradeoff was his laser prevented fun and interesting synergies. Nerfing him and any character is fucking stupid.
>>121236894
christ, I can't imagine the outrage when the second patch comes out. it's already pretty serious.
edmund is committing career suicide
>Greed Machine always jams after 3 uses now
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP SENPAI
>>121236937
turn off auto updates idiot
i turned mine off the second time they nerfed Dark Bum
WHY DO I GET EXCITED FOR THINGS
I'M EXCITED FOR MGSV? LOL IT'S UNFINISHED
I'M EXCITED FOR AFTERBIRTH? LOL IT'S UNFINISHED
STOP
STOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
The nerf to box of friends was retarded, Lilith literally needed that thing to even be close to viable because of the way she's designed.
Now every run with her will be some shitty boring slogfest that I'd probably just quit half way through after killing myself in real life.
>>121237049
It's not worth it.
honestly so disgusted with the state of video gaming right now that I might finally get my life together
I also, am a pissed off consumer of our oppressive indie dev sperglord. Join me brothers, and together, we can complain on a level he cannot possibly ignore.
>>121237105
>Get excited for Undertale
>Its better than I expected it to be
nice
So in case it wasn't painfully obvious, I think this picture makes it official; there's another array of secrets to solve for what I'm guessing is The Keeper character.
Pic is Rules Card used after Ultra Greed.
Reminder to report the game's steam page for false advertising
>>121237143
social networking was the worst thing to happen to videogames, just as it was also the worst thing to happen to literally everything else
>>121237171
You're an idiot
So what will Richard and especially Cobalt do now that Isaac is shit and will die shortly?
I mean I figure Richard will be fine, guy has a ton of personality after all, but Cobalt literally only has his sheer skill at Isaac to carry him as a streamer.
>>121237171
no
that's from vanilla, on how to unlock mega satan
it was saying that you need to bomb angel statues to get the key
>>121237171
I'm pretty sure that message refers to the Angel statues
>>121237054
I was only expecting the patch to be Edmund adding items to get back at those nasty little dataminers, not to make my Afterbirth experience as miserable as possible.
It's fucking disabled now, you can bet on that. No day 1 fucking anything ever again. I guess being jaded and cynical is the way to go now.
>>121237171
Anon, that's the tip for the angels that give they keys to mega satan.
>>121237171
so... kill hush with ipecac lost, check
>>121237171
That was already in the game. It's referring to bombing the angel statues in the angel room
>>121237164
i came into undertale expecting nothing but furfag tumblrshit and was pleasantly surprised.
one of the few good games this year
>>121237054
There's no option to turn off auto updates asshole. Show me where the option is because under the properties menu all I see are "Always keep this game up to date" "Only update this game when I launch it" and "High Priority - Always auto-update this game before others"
>>121237105
I have 3 things left to live for.
Fallout 4
Overwatch
Street Fighter 5
If two of these are bad like MGSV was, I might kill myself.
>>121237254
Why would you ever be excited for anything? Rebirth was only good because Edmund just threw crap together to see what would stick, it was obvious he was gonna go full retard with Afterbirth as soon as he started talking about it.
>>121237028
>Patch 2
>Isaac no longer starts with D6.
>>121236937
>2015
>not having "choose updates" enabled
>you deserve your fateYou don't though, I'm sorry
Anyone know what the "NO, NEVER AGAIN" item does?
So wait, can I buy Afterbirth and not get the patch? Or will it be downloaded as I download afterbirth?
>>121237324
Overwatch is shit as universally agreed by everyone that got to play it.
FO4 is bethesda, it will be shit.
Might as well save yourself some time.
>>121237301
only update this game when I launch it
then only launch in offline mode
maybe think outside your tiny fucking box or google it or something instead of just accepting feces on a plate, it's not hard to find solutions to problems if you try
And people say that D8 sucks
Just beat Hush with the Faded Polaroid, seems to not do anything. Hopping in the chest just gave me the ending.
I was playing as Cain.
>>121237389
you'll have to pirate it to not get the patch.
don't feel guilt.
>>121237404
>Overwatch is shit as universally agreed by TF2 players who haven't touched it.
fixed
What happened to those puzzle pieces people were getting by suiciding with Lilith?
>>121237360
I bet if you ever pick it up it halves the chances of you getting good items or good synergies. Because fun is never allowed in McMillen's house.
>>121237389
You're probably fucked now.
>>121237436
The faded polaroid is a red herring
Torrent/mega of patch where? I'm glad i didn't give him any money
>>121235884
>Vanilla
>Good
>>121237436
Yep. There's no new level or anything. We already know.
Wait for patch 3 with the last 20 items, the Samson nerfs, and the OH MY GOD IT'S SHOPKEEPER WHO COULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING
>>121237360
It lets you get a refund on this shitty expansion.
Y'all are exaggerating hardcore
I just played a full run with Azazel fine, and I never play Azazel
Get better, honestly
Do your part
>>121237462
you don't want it
poor northernlion can't even touch this with a 10 foot pole
>>121237572
the proper report option is "broken"
>>121237324
>I have three things left to live for.
>A Bethesda title.
>A Blizzard title.
>A Capcom title.
Wow, anon.... I... I'm so sorry....
But.. I think you might as well just kill yourself now. For having no taste. It's probably for the best, really.
>>121237528
kill yourself edmund
actually, fire tyrone and sell your game to someone who isn't brain damaged and then kill yourself
>One more patch
TIME
TO
FUCKING
NERF
EVERYONE
ISAAC
-NO D6
MAGGY
-YUM HEART ONLY HEALS HALF A HEART
CAIN
-LUCK FOOT HAS NOW BECOME A TRINKET
JUDAS
-BOOK OF BELIAL NOW TAKES 5 ROOMS TO CHARGE
BLUE BABY
-HEALTH UPS DON'T GIVE YOU SOUL HEARTS ANYMORE
EVE
-WHORE OF BABYLON ONLY ACTIVATES WHEN YOU HAVE HALF A HEART LEFT
SAMSON
-BLOOD LUST BUFFS ONLY HAPPEN AFTER EVERY OTHER HIT
AZAZEL
-HAHAHAH
LAZARUS
-THE SHADOW ACTIVATES AT ONE HEART INSTEAD OF GIVING YOU AN EXTRA LIFE
EDEN
-NOW ONLY STARTS WITH ONE ITEM
THE LOST
-ANY ITEM THAT REQUIRES HEARTS OR SOUL HEARTS WILL KILL YOU IF YOU PICK IT UP. ANGLE ROOMS ONLY
LILITH
-BOX OF FRIENDS NOW ONLY WORK ON THE INCUBUS
>>121237689
>For having no taste.
there's literally nothing else going on in 2016
i'm definitely not hyping myself up for another shit zelda game
>>121237734
I can totally see this, too.
>>121237734
>EVE
>-WHORE OF BABYLON ONLY ACTIVATES WHEN YOU HAVE HALF A HEART LEFT
So, original Isaac again?
>>121237404
>Overwatch is shit as universally agreed by everyone that got to play it
What? Tons of people are streaming it every day, STAR_ is loving the shit out of it.
>>121237797Not half a red heart, half any heart.
>>121237828
he's a mad TF2babb
>>121237734
Delete this post
>>121237324
>Fallout 4
>>121237828
>STAR_
That man has terrible taste. The fuck is wrong with you
>>121237884
Jesus Christ how horrifying.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/3rgywi/over_half_of_the_binding_of_isaac_afterbirths/
reddit's pissed, rip edmund.
>Release an expansion with half of what your promised
>The other half is gated behind an arbitrary time limit because you're butthurt that people can data mine your game
>In the patch where you unlock the rest of the items nerf fucking everything and make the game worse
Literally the only good thing the patch did was remove IV Bag from Greed Mode so .webm related doesn't happen
Why did Edmund do this
Why did he throw a tantrum and then also destroy the game
>>121237941
Not really.
>>121237605
The new character should be unlockable now with the new items, i wanna try it out. Probably something to do with Money=power. Check this thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3rh0nm/when_hovering_over_money_power_on_the_item_screen/
>>121237828
it's literally a blizzard game
>achievements are still bugged
>literally just replaced plat god with blue womb in the list of shit that you randomly get when you shouldnt
I swear he uped the rate on the new items, because now we are finding them like crazy, and I don't even mean the 20+ ones I am talking about the ones that were in the dlc at launch
>>121237917
>RLM
>>121237971
He is. Now Jerma is where its at
>>121237906
>>121237941
>LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO HAS PLAYED IT HATES OVERWATCH
>That's not true. [Notable example] among many others
>TH-THAT DOESN'T COUNT
as bad as the average /v/irgin
>>121237953
Why are people so assblasted that this wasn't some secret content thing? Edmund literally said after rebirth got datamined he wouldn't do something like that again
>>121237973
oh shit, money=power has ID 109 didn't it?
Is there a complete save on all characters and challenges out?
I just want to play for fun and not deal with the bullshit of unlocking everything, especially the challenges/lost
>>121237734
no, make d6 a one time use item and whore of babylon only activate when you have zero red hearts
>>121238090
Thats stupid and you're stupid
New Daily run in 30 seconds lads
>>121237981
and this is literally an indie game
>>121238068
the assblasting is more over the timegating.
the fact that it was (badly) veiled as an ARG made it worse.
>now the general will just be starbound general levels of (entirely justified) bitching
It didnt have to be this way
>>121238147
i'm warning you right now that blizzard WILL fuck you harder than phil fish
>>121237734
Jesus Christ, delete this before Egg Mud sees it, dumbass.
>>121238136
Oh shit it's the fucking lost.. Why
>>121238158
more like people are gullible as shit.
why are they all so salty over a 109 waiting period? you've got the game forever, is 109 hours really going to hurt your fun?
>>121238136
literally who cares?
>>121238247
go fuck yourself ed
>>121238158
The only people who are annoyed are the people who were looking for some kind of secret thing. As I said, Edmund told everyone he wasn't going to do it, so what the fuck did they expect?
why do people say eve is a better judas? she has that terrible 0.75 damage multiplier in a game all about damage.
>>121238224
if there's one thing i've learned it's: never run an ARG, ever. they suck
>>121238224
>>121238224
starbound general was always weirdly comfy.
AND THE DAILY CHALLENGE IS ANOTHER LOST RUN
IT'S LIKE POETRY
EVERY SCENE RHYMES
>>121237941
>terrible taste
eh, looking at his recommended list it's all pretty good stuff. Nuclear Throne, mark of the ninja, don't starve, super house of the dead ninja, Isaac. What about him do you think is shit?
>>121238247
are you fucking blind? it's not just that, everything that was fun is now shit.
>>121238227
Capcom hasn't fucked up Monster Hunter yet
And have you seen the current state of Capcom?
Overwatch has an entirely different team behind it. It's possible it won't be shit. More possible than any other blizzard game has been in years
>>121238286
Stay mad.
>nerf devil rooms, make items rare and put some little demon shit
>here's your angel room buffs guys
>>121238304
This wasn't an ARG.
>Piss off playerbase with timelock content
>Make challenge of the day the lost
I can almost hear my anger coming from my brain.
Bumo he starts as a normal bum head then after picking up coins he grows and then starts shiting out items when he gets near you. I don't know if he does anything else though
>>121238071
Yep. Now we can figure it out.Unless the rest of the content is locked by another patch, in which case i'll rape and murder edmund.
>>121238247
yeah i don't get the butthurt over the waiting at all, or the nerfs. both seem unimportant
the most important problem is that the new content just kinda sucks. ultra greed and hush are pretty easy and there's no new floors
>>121238227
blizz has already said no matter what all the heros in the game are going to be unlocked. as long as that's the case I don't see how hard they can fuck people since they can't make it F2P P2W
>>121238376
>>121238326
Isn't that random anyway?
>>121238335
>I speak for everyone
>>121238303
>>121238326
what if every daily from this day on is just the lost every time
>>121238403
it's confirmed that another 20 items are locked.
but there's probably two more characters so...
>>121238379
Nvm he also has a meat boy effect, he does a lot of damage if he touchs a enemy
If he had advertised the expansion to have 70 new items he could've mitigated 90% if the assblasting headed his way
>>121238335
What was fun? Automatically winning every run by default because shit is so overpowered?
>daily run is the lost again
>>121238509
What is fun for you? Dying most of the time because the game decided you wouldn't be allowed to win today?
>>121238473
he also keeps his level to the next floor
>>121238430
>as long as that's the case I don't see how hard they can fuck people
all they have to do to make it shit is add a blizzard-style loot system
>>121238509
here's you (You), edmund
>>121238409
>no new floors
This got to me the most, I really wanted some Dungeon Crawl style basement floors with unique enemies and shit but all we got is:
>floor where every enemy is just one fire
>blue caves
Thanks Ed, literally no effort went into level design
>>121238509
go to bed Ed-boy
>>121238554
playing a game that actually presents some kind of challenge is fun
Though I do think that the change to devil deals is pretty shit, how was Azazel not overpowered before? It was almost impossible to lose as him
>>121238461
Yeah i know, but what i'm saying is that it's probably available now and we just need to figure it out. But there could be another fucking patch to unlock it
>>121238224
>lol new Isaac Kickstarter buy our plushies guys or we won't give you this cool item ;^)
>>121238554
I bet you reset until you get a chest room in the starting area with a damage increase.
fucking casual.
>>121238585
the original alternates were amazing due to adding all new unique enemies and bosses.
the third set is just fucking lazy.
Why are all indie devs massive fucking vagina babies that can't handle people compromising their 'vision' even slightly
I thought Edmund was cool but apparently hes just as bad as the rest of them
REEE
THE LOST AND THE HAUNT
FIRST ITEM IS THE FUCKING SMART FLY THAT DOESN'T WORK UNLESS YOU GET HIT
EDMUND
>>121238335
>why dont they put in an item that just instantly wins the game for me
>ITS FUN
download cheatengine and quit your fucking whining if all you want is free wins without any actual challenge
the rebalances arent the issue, boss design necessitating x number of overpowered items in order for you to actually win the run is
you should be demanding fixes to shit like the chest multiboss rooms and hush, not buffs for brimstone
>>121238660
I reset a run when I'm dead.
Try again, faggot, making your go-to design choice "Nerf everything fun" is retarded.
>Make a movie
>It has a twist at the end
>Some guys who saw the movie early post the twist on their blog
>People only find out about if if they go to the blog and click the big [SPOILERS] entry
>Get SUPER MAD ABOUT IT
>The sequel to the film inexplicably just stops halfway through
>Later release the full version of the film
>Its nothing but pictures of assholes and footage of me flipping the audience off
How dare a small amount of my customers do a thing I don't want, I will ruin things for everybody!
That'll show those paying customers
>Lost challenge run
>Start off with the holy mantle
What part of this was supposed to be challenging
>>121238773
Are you enjoying your steak?
>>121238803
They were balanced. stop being salty.
Nice job being a back set dev.
>>121238773
just eat your steak faggot
New thread, migrate whenever
>>121238861
>>121238861
>>121238861
>>121238620
Yeah, he was overpowered.
And people told Egg Head this, and he said "Well he's supposed to be like that! The characters aren't all meant to be the same difficulty!"
Then a year later he nerfs him, moving him from overpowered to shit. It's like he won't be satisfied until the only character that isn't outright gimping yourself from the start is Isaac, and, hell, he'll probably end up nerfing Isaac too.
>>121238773
>Spawn next to a curse room
>decide not to do it
>die next room anyway
>>121238840
>implying this analogy even works
>>121238868
>turning a character from to good to complete shit
>Balanced
>>121238792
k i l l y o u r s e l f e d m u n d
>>121238868
>They were balanced
>Stop being salty
>The developer always knows best
You're the one sounding like a wannabe dev here.
>the Lost has the Holy Mantle in the daily run
Why doesn't he always start with that item? All tactics involve resetting with him until you get it anyway.
>only 93 new items
>Edmund 75% of the items in the game are shit, what do we do?
>Let's make the other 25% shit too, that'll fix it!
Are the people upset over this piratefags?
>>121238868
>BALANCING
>IN A SINGLE PLAYER GAME
why
>>121239212
every run was OP if you get X or Y. No way to lose unless you're retarded
>Killing the little Haunts during the Haunt boss fight triggers the boss finish soundtrack, and spawns 1-3 red hearts every time, so basically the hauntlings trigger the room-clear flag in the scripting.
That's it. Requesting a refund. Maybe I'll purchase again once he's done autistically breaking the game up into timed patches and fixes everything he managed to break.
Imbalanced bullshit getting nerfed is one thing, but when a simple content update breaks the game's scripting, then that's just sheer fucking incompetence.
Is there a list of all the new items?
>>121237997
I wouldn't be surprised. He did that with Wrath of the Lamb, until about 4 patches in. Deliberately, so he could test how the new items functioned en masse, and later used the consensus on them to finalize the balance and return the spawn rates to normal.
Not even that bad of an idea, desu.
>Isaac run
>randomly start with homing tears
?
>>121239382
I'm guessing you've literally never programmed or scripted anything in your life.
Not that bug testing isn't incredibly important, but it's also easy to cause random shit to break.
>items in greed show don't restock automatically, have to use the machine
not sure if I like this or not.
Any clue what this trinket does?
>>121238585
I'll give one thing: Scarred Womb is superior to Utero and the new designs look interesting even if they don't change much
But I don't think an entire expansion really warrants any of them. If anything it feels like they should've just been there from the start
In fact a lot of this expansion is pointless, should've been there from the start or ruining the game
new thread when
thanks Ed.
>>121236412
>Azazel was too fun. He needed to get fucked ;^)
ftfy
>>121241430
Sometimes when you use a card or pill it doesn't get consumed