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/pdg/ - PAYDAY: The Heist and PAYDAY 2 General

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Cloaker a cute! CUTE! edition

brevious bread: >>120927712

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn
http://fewes.se/pd2g/
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>>121195406
first for best girl
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nth for gay faggots homo-up another general and can't stop jacking off long enough to actually play the game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXFHTfgTCNE
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>>121195406
inb4 pic delete
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rrerr
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Should I open a Sputnik safe or should I sell the drill for mad dosh?
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>>121195983
that's not hard when she's the only girl
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>>121197119
it's only a shirtless dude?
>>121198052
I don't know shit about the market but odds are better you'll get dosh for the drill than the skin, no?
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>>121198052
think of it this way

if you sell the drill now, you're selling an asset that is consistently worth 2.50.
You get $2.50. Done.

if you use the key and get a shit drop, which is probably 90% likely, you're gambling away $2.50 on a 10% chance
You'll get $0.10-$1.00

if you use the key and get a great drop, which is probably 10% likely, you'll have to sell quickly for as high as possible for quickest return on investment
OR
hold onto it and hope they become rare in the future

things to consider
>will these crates be around forever (will they always drop)?
>will new crates replace these crates or maybe just be added along)?
>if you sell now, and they're worth more later, do you care if you lose the chance to sellit for, say, $20 or $200 in a few months/years?
>are you feelin' lucky punk?
>well? do ya?
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>>121198058
shots fired
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quality
overkill
coding
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>>121200641
Reminder that Clover was going to be voiced by Bonnie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We6Lhu11ZmM
further proven by the fact that in this video, "clover" is depicted as having no long hair. I'm pretty sure overkill made the mask THEN decided what her character's face would look like
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>>121198052
get this shit senpai
http://www.mediafire.com/download/go9uctkv34t6o47/A_Squared+BLT+Skin+Unlock.7z
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>>121201670
They modeled her after her VA.
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>>121202715
no shit
did you read my post?
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PAIN IS AN ILLUSION
GET UP
please
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Best place to kill enemies really together? Art Gallery?
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>>121207821
Diamond has a ton of spawns in a close area.
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>>121201714
that'll probably block you from getting legit safe/drill from card drops

also its a stolen stolen script and it makes me mad that thief's keep perpetuating the bug i wrote in the original unlock for /pdg/ instead of fixing it
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>>121209967
>implying the thief know how to code
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I can't stop listening to DonAcDum.

Help.
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>>121201670
No, Clover wasn't going to be voiced by Bonnie's VA
are you stupid? just fucking look at the wiki dude
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>>121213221
DON-ANS-ER-BAK-U-TWAT
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>>121213293
are you retarded
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Game died when Goldfarb left desu senpai
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>>121215270
Clover was to be voiced by Séainín Brennan
Bonnie is voiced by Rhona Cameron
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I was in a heist before and when we opened the vault it loooked like this.
I noped the fuck out of there. but what the fuck?
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>>121201714

That only unlocks them locally, and you don't have them in your steam inventory.

No point. Until we can crash this economy... it's pointless.
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>>121215885
Some cheat called bankbuster? Last I remember all it did was open up all the deposit boxes at once, guess they changed it so that it does this now as well.
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>>121216594
I figured it was a cheat.
That's messed up. As soon as i saw it, i didnt want any part.
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>>121216736
Good job goy. Remember cheating hurts all heisters. Always play with your auto kick on.
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>>121217080
I joined the heist. If i had known i wouldn't have joined.
Is there a way to report that sort of shit?
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>>121217428
I can't tell if you're purposefully ignoring the fact that I was being sarcastic or if you're just fucking stupid.

Either way feel free to report them on the steam hub bitch. All Overkill can do is ban them from the steam group.
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YEAH
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35th for another perk deck rebalance on its way.
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What's the meta perk deck right now?
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>>121219648
muslnder
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>>121219648
For armorfags, infiltrator is the best middle ground with its 32% less damage you receive from cops and the 20% health regen you get every ten seconds from just slapping the ass of an unit.

If going masterfug, grinder is an excellent choice.
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>>121215885
>nice job with the planks
cheats
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>>121215885
>crossbow

just no
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Any hackerbros want to rain some money on me in-game? I had a stupid amount of money before going Infamy, and now that they have added all these new weapon/mask slots I could use a couple hundred million in spending cash to fix my collection.
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>>121223006
stop being such a lazy fag and do it yourself
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>tfw PPR v1.0.4f is out and currently crashes my shit before startup.
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>>121223006
>needing hacking to get money,

this ain't GTA:Online here, just play Mallcrasher Overkill or Cook-off if you want some spare money.
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>>121223378
>this ain't GTA:Online here
I never could afford the Kaneda bike.
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>>121223343
>PPR
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>>121223378
I know, I had well over 60m from rushing shadowraid back in the day, and I would buy a bunch of RPGs and re-sell them after hitting infamy. But I recently burned through what was left right as they add another 200 million-ish worth in weapon/mask slots.
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>>121224009
Y'know. I could compile a set of the stuff they use but uh
>effort
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orwl3TolF5g
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wew ladz
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/john-wick-vive-vr-experience,30460.html
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>>121226167
IT WAS FREE VR HEADSEAT, FREE FUCKING VR HEADSET.
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>>121226841
anon, what?
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>>121226978
It's some shitty meme from /tv/
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Alright losers.
Give me one reason to put a single point in Crew Chief.
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>>121227797
to support your fellow armorfags and other infiltrator friends
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>>121227797
I'll suck your cock.
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Here's the late news from Overkill_Jules regarding the weapon rebalance update incoming.

>Reducing low damage pistol by 15 damage is a bit to much. Instead they will be reduced by 3- 6 damage.
>Weapon are now distributed in Archetype for the stat. We need first to have an healthy balance between the weapon categories before we go balancing inside of them.
>The 10 damage seems to be a good start. The combination of skill in the Enforcer skill tree will increase the damage by 15%, 35% and 75%. If after some test it turns out that it is not enough we will look into additional changes.
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>>121228498
>No further updates on the measly 4 - 8 proposed increase to AR accuracy.
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>>121228498
the fuck's an Archetype?
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>>121229235
Must be because everyone must have agreed on this point. Wouldn't be surprised it's the light assault rifles like the Commando, Clarion or JP36 who benefits it the most.
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I KNOW HOW TO FIX DAMAGE IN PAYDAY

MAKE WEAPONS HAVE VARIABLE DAMAGE

INSTEAD OF HITTING FOR 43 DAMAGE

YOU NOW HIT BETWEEN A RANDOM NUMBER OF 36-50 DAMAGE BUT 43 AS THE AVERAGE

META FAGS BTFO
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>>121228498
Why the fuck are they even touching 40 damage pistols? They're barely viable as it is.

Why did they even implement a fucking archtype system? Everyone will still just use the minmaxed one.

Who the fuck wants a cqc rifle???
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>>121231190
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>>121231230
The old system was so much better, all they needed was to tweak some values on the underpowered and overpowered guns and it would have been perfect.

Now everything is homogenised to shit for no reason at all.
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>>121228498
>The combination of skill in the Enforcer skill tree will increase the damage by 15%, 35% and 75%.
What does he mean by this? New skills that boost weapon damage?
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>>121228498
>deagle still not affected
>stryk will still be great
>leo will still reach 90-100 damage with 30 concealment
wew, it's fucking nothing
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>>121228319
So, useless for pubs, good for friends?
>>121228338
1 second per point spent, yes?
Then I expect a 3 hour, 48 minute fellatio.
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>>121231702
Underdog shitgun impact overkill.

>>121231912
> Gunslinger aced.
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>>121231702
No, he was talking of the underdog, shotgun impact and Overkill skills we have already that buff the damage.
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Guess what Enemies actually have Dodge stat
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>>121235169
>being this tricky.
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>there will never be a perk deck designed around headshots and long range
>it will never have a headshot damage multiplier bonus
>it will also never have a bullet:distance damage bonus of +1:1m
>you will never use that perk deck, a bipod Buzzsaw, and do consecutive 100m+ headshots with it.
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>>121235976
mediocre idea
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>sydney is an australian sniper because obviously all australians are expert snipers
>her perk deck is headshot/distance focused
pretty excited
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>>121235976
>>121236432
Don Ac Dum
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>>121236694
why we dum
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>>121236694
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>>121236939
>>121236740
oh he was calling us samefags??
I was just wondering what was dum about the ideas
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>>121236432
Would be more another perk deck centered around melee weapons, anon. You just know it will happen like that.
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>>121236432
Would be a nice new concept, but... how viable really? Snipers already kill everything with one shot, what needs to be improved?
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>>121240854
more accuracy on things that aren't snipers?
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So are there any soft or hard caps to hit post-balance? Or should I just go for as much accuracy as I can get.
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>>121241732
46 damage can be a breakpoint to look for most Assault Rifles or smg but most of the time, you'll need just to buff the stability/accuracy as much as you'll can.
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>>121241791
Cool, I noticed a lot of iron-sighting accuracy's been shot for some odd reason too, I'm having better luck hitting things while hipfiring with a laser module.

Or maybe I'm just being shit.
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you cunts are such fucking hypocrites
you all throw a shitfit about these retarded skins and now you fucking love it dont you
you aren't even self aware enough to see what you're doing and i bet you've already got skins on your dumb guns

fucking eat shit you huge gang of flip flopping faggots
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>>121242313
suck my battle-worn common bernetti
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>>121242313
Thanks for sharing your opinion m8.
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>>121231517
>Now everything is homogenised to shit for no reason at all.
The old system was homogenised to shit as well though, most guns "worth using" hit the same breakpoints and handled nearly identically anyway. Yeah, you could argue it was superior to the current tier system of Deagle brand Deagle and everything else, but it was still far from good
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>>121242313
Hey, it's not being hypocrite if you sucked Overkill's cock from the start.
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>>121241537
Deagle is pretty accurate already.
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>>121242635
>shooting distant target with DMR kit AMR-16 with mostly accuracy mods
>miss
>whip out the kike pistol
>hit
???
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>>121242738
Why would you use ARs?
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>>121242808
I like them.

But I have accepted their fate and moved on to KSP for the pure dakka.
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>>121242474
>>121242491
>>121242615
just die
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>>121242313
I never cared about skins themselves. They're ugly and most stat boots are too rare and useless for me to give a fuck. My only problem with this was the fact that Overkill backed down on their word and added microtransactions into the game. And now drills are droppable and all's well (on this end, at least).

I never used their skins and I'm not planning on doing so. I'll stick to my superior GoonMod.
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>>121242738
>90< accuracy weapons hit long range targets more reliably than <90 accuracy weapons

You don't say?

>>121242870
>Dakka
>Only 900 RPMs
>Not the Buzzsaw 42 for 1200 Rabbi Purgers/ Minute
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>>121243008
You kinda did an end run around the point there, being that 90 is absolute shit for a properly modded DMR and also way too high for a pistol.

Also I would love the MG42 but don't got that historical pack.
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>>121242946
maybe l8r, m8
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Too edgy or just edgy enough since I'm going for Jin-Roh ICTV w/ MG42 cosplay?
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>>121243560
kinda 40k-ish?
Works for what you're looking for I guess
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Who /psg/ here ?
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>>121243650
>losing 1-0 to real
lmao who the fuck would be /PSG/ they suck ass, besides like 2 good players
MC might smash it this year desu
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>>121243818
>reading this post
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>>121243534
take your gay shipping bullshit and go fuck yourself with it
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>>121244669
I want to impregnate Sokol!
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>>121243650
Shittiest weapon in the game. And why build a wannabe sniper rifle without the penetration of one?
>>121244669
So young, so angry. Damn that rap music!
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>>121242313
Is it really that wrong to appreciate the JP36 slaughter skin ?
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i cant deal with this anymore
goodbye /pdg/
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>>121244932
The skins, the arguing or the gay sex?
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>>121245035

personally I hope there's no more gay shit

if anyone posts anymore gay shit I'm gonna be so mad.
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>>121244932
See ya tomorrow
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>>121245090
you're literally asking for it
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>>121245146

i'm asking for you not to post any gay shit

or i'm gonna be upset
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>>121245205
anon, you know i have to
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?
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>>121245268

no don't, I'll be angry with you, and I will write a letter, telling you how angry I am
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>there are people in this thread who have trouble stealthing Golden Grin Casino DW
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>>121245329
anon, somehow i think you WANT me to post gay things...
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>>121245359
got u, senpai
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>>121231190
how about i give you the middle finger,and go back to the shithole where you came from...
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>>121245458
Oh okay
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>>121245523
>ecm betas
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>>121245295
4/10 winter camo is not that convincing.
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>>121245606
Houston is a fucking beta
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material able to be applied to armour when
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>>121245658
donacdum
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>>121245772
never
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>>121245658
He's just a bottom, someone's got to be one when Chain's BBC needs relief.
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>>121245772
considering how the Overkill and Goonmod's guns are already hideous, it would maybe be for the best to spare the suit and ICTV from this madness.
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>>121245873
>no fanfic where Sokol and Houston are designated team bottoms
Wish i could write
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>>121246014
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>>121227797
There ain't one
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It was an unusually hot and humid afternoon in the District of Columbia. Two young men at work in a blue florist's van found themselves in a desperately warm and sticky situation...
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>no police interrogation/mindbreak fanfiction
why live
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>>121246307
Go on
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>No legendary Crosskill skin that turns it into the Hardballer.
>The only two legendary skins are a golden gaudy deagle and a horribly mutilated rifle that used to be an AK.
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>>121246414
The first young man turned to the other, a coy brow cocked half in jest and said "Are you of wanting's to doing homosexuals?"

The second replied "Don't act dumb."

The end.
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>>121246505
fapped hard thanks
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>>121228498
>implying Overshill's new rererererebalance will be better than the mods cobbled together within 3 hours over on lastbullet
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Haven't played in a while and it seems the game took a turn for the worse. Or at least the developers. Has it changed THAT much really or is everybody just being a big baby about it?
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>>121247325
It changed a lot but people are also acting big baby about it.

It's still a bit confusing to mod most of the weapons considering how they're now forced to specific roles like the AR with huge ammo pool and poor accuracy and you can't really change their fate except for ruining other important stats in the process.

A lot of weapons are now viable and silencers are more interesting to use for loud jobs but some shotguns and other weapons like the Pratchett really bitted the dust.

Game is not that much P2W, just a bit more casual.
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>>121246535
I also considered "want to lick my hockey stick?" but it's too late for that now. :(
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>>121248776
There's always time for sequels.
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If I use the skin unlocker, does it show to everyone the skins I'm using?
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>>121246492
>2015,
>still no Cobra bling grip for the Crosskill,

you had one job Overkill.
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>>121250735
forgot pic
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>>121247325
WHY DOES THIS METACAR NOT HAVE A MILITARY MODULE ON IT
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looking to do wind of change,can you help lads

Custom URL: steamcommunity.com/id/mosinman
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>>121195406
I want to fug it!
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>>121251082
get in the chat
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>>121243008
Vulcan is the best dakka weapon as long as you're not in an endurance heist like Cook Off/White Christmas.
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>>121251082
We need one more.

Join the group chat if interested,
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>>121252534
k, i'm coming
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>>121251362
Yeah, but you can't bipod and snipe with it.
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That OP's pic is so disgusting to look at
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http://www.mediafire.com/download/go9uctkv34t6o47/A_Squared+BLT+Skin+Unlock.7z
Based Reddit
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>>121252717
Long haired twinks are the worst
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>>121252717
You're disgusting to look at.
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>>121252717

Yeah. Humans are so gross.
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>>121252853
And nobody except Overkill is surprised.
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>>121252853
W-what does that do? Unlock skins?
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>>121253163
Yep
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disecrete stock is not even a stock
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please make this happen
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please make this happen

http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:GFreeman/Obrez_(Mosina)
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>>121252853
Do they count as legit skins?
Do they go on your inv?
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>>121254752
>painting the stock in black reduce the stability,

Thanks Overkill.
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>>121256591
and make it more concealable
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>>121252853
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IMMA GONNA DO IT /pdg/!

HOLD ME!
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>>121257775
If you just sell this drill, you should be able to buy a legendary Ydragill Clarion, don't do this anon.
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>>121256573
yes
no

its effectively the same as /pdg/ script that only worked during tempfix by forging return values from the steam inventory validations
any legit changes to steam inventory between running unlock and exiting game (getting drop from cards, unboxing, removing applied legit skins) will fail
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>>121256591
>>121256652
duh, the paint is black, and more slippery than a normal wood stock :^)
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What's the highest conceal weapon that I can shoot guards with and blast them in a certain direction?
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>>121258220
Judge.
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>>121258220
Judge with the pixel skin bonus should get you to 28 concealment.
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>>121257883
Okay.
I'm going to keep it for a while.
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Has anyone managed to get a single halloween pattern from card drops since the beginning of the event ? I swear those are rarer than infamous patterns.
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tfw modded bernetti 9 is objectively superior my pistolfu; gruber kurz.

i will stay with you, gruber.
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>>121254752
I wish it would've just made it look like the end's mosin
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>>121259364
>not playing with the chimano compact,
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>>121257775

Just use the skin unlocker if you really want skins that badly.
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Best heist for farming getting tased?
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>>121259764
>using ugly polymer trash instead of smooth metal german curves
what's wrong with you?
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>>121260137
Big Oil.
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>>121260360
I try cutting the fences but I don't get electrocuted
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>>121252853
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/go9uctkv34t6o47/A_Squared+BLT+Skin+Unlock.7z

This is local and doesn't effect the Steam economy. Until someone finds a way to crash the economy doing this: USELESS.
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best heist for farming bulldozer kills? it's my butcher daily and I need it for the G3/Thanatos also.
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>>121260536
Meltdown
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>>121260536
Meltdown normal, go look for the dozer in one of the containers.
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>>121260616
>>121260645
Oh, sweet. I can just buy the contract and restart it repeatedly to get the one dozer? Not a pro job or anything?

Cheers.
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>>121260750
Yes, it's not a pro job.
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>>121260516
OVK would've released a hotfix quickly if it was possible.
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>>121260516
Well, if you prefer to be a good goy and pay for skins, then sure, its useless.
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I sold al my steam cards on the market for a few cnets each and bought 5 skins
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>>121260516
>This is local
The visual effect is local. The stats are not.
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>mfw I found out you can ecm rush big oil day 1
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>>121263203
You can ECM-less rush Big Oil day 1 but if a unsilenced shot is fired by you or the bikers once then the cops are alerted.
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>>121263414
Nope, they have changed it. They removed cops under the map.
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>>121263203
>mfw my friends never believe this is true, only to complain after ecm rushing that this day is too boring.
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>>121260137
Does FS day three still work or Overkill fixed the thermal drill trick ?
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>>121263203
That's been a thing for a while now, I've seen it happen a few token times in pubbies surprisingly.

Then again it was usually with higher Infamies playing with friends who had a open spot for whatever reason so I just played along. Wish that happened more, I'd like to do another Cook Off where there's a dedicated cook who knew Bain's bull-shittery while the rest of us just keep the pigs off our dicks.

Shit's a different kind of magic to experience when you're all a cohesive unit that can make about twenty-ish bags without skipping a beat.
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>>121262708
Where they at least mint-condition ?
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>>121267137
>wanting your skins to look good

I bet you like blonde girls
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>>121259764

Interceptor.
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>>121262708
>not using skin unlocker.
Why anon.
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>use mosin+concealable bronco
>crit headless dozers with one shot
mosin>thanatos
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>>121268586
>29
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If I use mosconi in a crit bulid it means that crit chance is very high because it only has 2 shots right?
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>>121269167
Have you sniffed glue lately?
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>>121263203
stealthing big oil day 1 is one of the most fun you can have in pd2

you feel like that scene in breaking bad where the old guy goes in and fucks shit up
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>>121269167
It's supposed to be 30% max to be a critical hit like any other guns but i don't know if it counts for each pellets or not for shotguns.
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>>121269689
>tfw soloing Shuriken Shenanigans on that heist
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>>121269708
>Shotguns have a 30% critical hit chance per pellet, but there is a catch: Critical hits are evaluated after the favorite pellet of a shotgun blast is selected (that is if several pellets hit the same enemy). If you hit 12 enemies with 12 pellets, the game evaluates a 30% chance for each of the enemies, so it is likely to get a few critical hits. If you hit one enemy with 12 pellets, you have a plain 30% critical hit chance.

read the long guide, family
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Completed achievement for 25 dozer kills with G3 thanks to anons help telling me about Meltdown. Get my DMR all modded up with the parts I like, end result is a primary that's just barely more accurate than a Deagle, has a smaller magazine, does considerably less damage, has a longer reload time and worse ammo pickup. This is a primary weapon. A full length .308 battle rifle. I'll still use it because I like it, but god damn.
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>Doing Overdrill
>Host gets put into custody halfway through
>Idiots use C4 before we even open the gold-vault
>Never ending wave
>Gets kicked right before entering the garage/car park

I'm done with pubs, fucking wankers the lot of em.

Of course host had to be a swede aswell, all of them are humongous faggots desu.
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>>121260137
Doesn't really matter for Frank mask achievement. I got it on hoxrev using shockproof basic and not killing the tasers unless I had to in order to avoid going down
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>>121268689

29 what? Concealability?
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>>121270379
Just go full battle-rifle and stick to the single-fire mode while using the wooden grip and tactical's compensator for 100 accuracy.

Still not as much impressive as other 160+ damage battle rifles but still very fun.
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>>121270379
fun fact: DMR G3 has same stats as M308
:^)
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>>121271776
Except it has worse ammo pickup.

There's no reason to use a DMR kit over the M308.

Well, unless you're too low of level for the M308 or you want a goofy Dozer Buster, then you can put the DMR Kit on the AMR-16 (highest rate of fire).
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>>121271760
What would you recommend for a battle rifle anyway? I know there's quite a few options. So far the DMR kit 7.62 AK seems like the best bet. I'm just a big fan of the G3 and kinda let down by what Overkill did to it.
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>Nerfing assault rifles
>Anything below 50% accuracy is a probability cannon
>Valkyria Rifle nerfed to oblivion and back

Did...Did no one playtest this at Overkill?
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>>121272803
>Valkyria Rifle nerfed to oblivion and back
I wanted to love it so very, very much. I have an enduring fondness for the AS VAL and VSS from loads of STALKER, but this is just not viable. How this thing literally built for stealth is so objectively inferior to a CAR-4 for the same purpose, I do not know.
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What should I remember when doing tabula rasa?
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>>121273145
Go Grinder. Go Muscle if you don't have Sokol.
Either play with people you know or play with bots. Pubs will either fuck up their skills and weapons or fuck up in game. Or both.
Don't act dumb.
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>>121272803
>implying that the AR were in a better shape before the black market update,

All the heavy assault rifles were just trash and the Car-4 was basically a Pay 2 Meta weapon. At least know you can bring a Falcon Rifle or G3 on a Overkill or DW job without feeling like a huge retard.
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Is it true that players with higher infamy levels will cause the cops to have higher spawn rates?
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>>121273145
Don't forget to equip grinder
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>>121273145
lods of molotov for Winters.
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>>121272196
DMR kit rifles hit higher concealment than the M308, meaning better LBSB builds.
M308 has a 10 concealment max.
G3 being 14.
AK.762 being 17.
AMR-16 being 18.
AK being 20.
CAR-4 being 24.
If the cavity is considered a DMR, then that hits 28.
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>>121273460
Which one of those hits the highest damage/accuracy at its peak concealment?
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>>121273575
I'm not on my desktop right now, so I can't check in game.
According to pd2skills, the M308 gets 100 damage and 16 accuracy. While the AK762 gets 85 damage and 18 accuracy.
But, you know, the balance changes everything.
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>>121273460
>Cavity.

That's more of a Overkill weapon considering how it can't reach the 121 damage breakpoint for DW needed to kill the grey units in one headshot. Although it can easily get superior damage with crits hits from a sb/lb build, it's hard to put it on the same level as a M308 or a dmr AK 7.62
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>>121273460
Why use a low rate of fire high damage weapon with critical hits? You're already killing cops in one or two shots, so why waste the skill points and all the other stats you'll miss out on modding for concealment just to have a chance to do extra damage to a dead body?

And I was talking specifically about the DMR Kit mods, the G3, both AKs, CAR and AMR all have the same shitty ammo pickup rate, making them inferior to an M308 when built with no regards to concealment.
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>>121274198
DMR kits don't reduce rate of fire. DMR kits improves accuracy and damage at the cost of ammo. That's why I use them for my SBLB build. At least, until I got the WA2000.
But I didn't know they had shit ammo pick up. I'll keep that in mind if I make another build, something with less concealment.
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>>121272803
i've been using an as val since the last patch and found it pretty great
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Why
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>>121275286
>Not carrying atleast one explosive weapon on you at all times.
It's what you deserve.
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>>121275286
it's a strictly visual bug, I had it myself. It is actually on the ground and your teammates should be able to pick it up.
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>>121275671
Not a bug per se, just desync-
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daily reminder that hoxhud is shit and you should kill yourself if you use it
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So apparently AMR-16 is the best battle rifle? I can get it to 100 accuracy, 34 mag size, 171 damage with the right mods. Might as well use this I guess.
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>>121260750
Also, if you need a nigdozer just up the difficulty to hard or vh.
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Looking for three other people for The Turtle Always Wins Achiev
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>Who /dreamheister/ here?
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>>121276562
We definitely should get Overkill to release (or at least announce) Nick along with No Mercy.
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>>121276562
>Not Bill
>comes with some sort of M16 weapon
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>>121276562
>Nick DLC Heister alongside No Mercy remake when?
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>>121276562
Should've got this guy as a movie tie-in instead of John Wick tbqh, famalam.
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>>121276562
>Character from a dead franchise owned by a company that doesn't make games anymore.
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>>121276886

Or we could stop adding meme characters. Or how about we stop adding characters altogether and improve the actual game?
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>>121277296
You can't sell patches.
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The only thing I know is Shotguns
I want to try Rifles now
How do
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>>121277409
We'll see about that.
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>>121277208
We all can dream
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>>121277024
>Or how about we stop adding characters altogether and improve the actual game?

Overkill just can't resist to add them and you know it.
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>>121277296
Only character I want is kawaii-tan.
hotpants optional
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Where are the mask models and textures stored and how can I extract them?
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>>121278372
This is the only DLC I legitimately want.
Even if she only speaks moonspeak like Jiro.
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>>121278641
In my ass
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When will goonmod be updated?
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>>121278641
use the bundle modder tool

https://bitbucket.org/zabb65/payday-2-modding-information/downloads
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>>121278842
Never
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>>121278842
Force it to run.
You'll be fine... mostly.
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>>121279198
How
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>>121279631
kill self
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>>121279631
There's an in-game option that lets you force it to run when the mod version doesn't match the game version.
Enable that, then restart the game.
... Assuming BLT, of course.
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>>121279807
Nope it crashes my game
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>>121281112
It works fine, kill urself.
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>>121281112
Works fine for me.
All I have installed is the BLT, Pocohud, Goonmod, and superlewd framing frame paintings
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What's the timer on getting safes or drills as drops? I want to play as little as possible, really just looking to cash out at this point.
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>>121273359
Now you get to look at everyone else with a 308 and deagle while feeling like a special snowflake
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>>121282205
Probably 0.1% per week
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>>121281740
Look it up. Goddamn is /pdg/ now just babysitters.
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>>121282205
dunno but ive gotten a load of safes in less than a week.
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>>121242615
does anyone have the image that's liek this with all of the guys
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>>121285110
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>>121285261
Thanks.
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>>121285261
>Wick
>not FUCKING LOVE KEYCARDS
Stale memes /10.
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>>121285261
What would Bonnie and Sokol's lines be?
Sokol has landed!
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>>121285931
Oh, and Jiro. I knew I was forgetting someone.
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Is there a Melee only build?
Also wanna figure out the best Grinder build possible. Is currently working alright with the AK and the Krinkov.
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I'm actually kind of impressed they managed to reintroduce the "new item icon not going away" bug. Must be tough remembering to flag items so the game doesn't constantly think they're new.
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>>121286639
Bulletproof ICTV with Pumping Iron and Martial Arts using the Katana with Sociopath.

On Overkill, one shot everything under an FBI Green with an uncharged melee strike. Greens only need a quarter second charge and Tans require about half a second.
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>>121286639
Sociopath > Grinder > Infiltrator for melee.
The rest is kinda obvious.
You could argue heavy armor, but I'd rather LBV for speed.
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THERE'S A GURD
STAY ALURD
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Best SMG lads?
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>>121272958
Val is pretty gud.
It comes surpressed and it has lowest concealement for a surpressed.
It does the job.

Not that you need it since playing cards have 100% accuracy and are completely silent as well
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>>121287427
Krinkov/Para
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>>121287427
I really like the...

>le lads

The Deagle is the best SMG.
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>>121287427
Jacket's Piece.
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>>121287594
>Le le maymay

It's almost like I'm on reddit.
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>>121287427
Krinkov is good.
Para is inaccurate dogshit
Swedish K is kinda like krinkov with 10 less ammo and 10 more in the mag
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>>121287427
Vector/Jacket's Piece/Krinkov/Para.
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>>121285931
Sokol
>AMERIKAN HIGH FIVES FOR EVERYONE
>FIRE IN MY BELLY, ICE IN MY VEINS
>Spotted a badass, but was looking in the mirror
>Barney, your popcorn is scaring control
>Call me the cloaker smoker
Bonnie
>STOP LOOKIN' AT MAH SEXY ARSE AND GET TO WORK
>I HAVEN'T BEEN THIS EXCITED SINCE 1985
>DIAL 5-5-5-YOU'RE-FUCKIN'-DEAD
>A KISS FROM BONNIE FOR EACH DEAD COPPAH
>MY PATIENCE IS THINNER THAN YOUR FATHER'S DICK
>Fuck a duck!
>We are all Bonnie here
Jiro
>[angry japanese noises]

Actually i'm pretty sure all of those was done already, i just never see updated picture posted. Bonnie and Jiro was done, not sure about Sokol, maybe i missed him.
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Sokol is a psychopath who enjoys the smell of corpses.
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>>121288380
probably doggies
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>>121276562
Chink Dragan
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>>121287612
>-20 stability
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>>121285931
i did a thing
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>>121290974
bretty gud
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Guise, how the fuck do i get more skill set slots?
Used some Lua mod for this back in the day, but the piece of shit mod erased all of them the last time Lua wen't down.

5 just ain't enough.
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>>121291547
Look up
Oh no more skill sets mod
Or something like that
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>>121289196
>caring about the stability on a bullet hose
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When should I branch out and stop using the CAR-4 and Chimano 88?

I'm level 21 right now
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>>121293083
What?
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>>121285261
>>121290974
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>>121294379

When should I branch out and stop using the CAR-4 and Chimano 88?

I'm level 21 right now
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>>121294736
What?
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>>121294920
When should I branch out and stop using the CAR-4 and Chimano 88?

I'm level 21 right now
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>>121295001
What?
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>>121295001
work your way towarsd harder difficulties and meta weapons.

Don't take what other people say is good. Take it into consideration but play what you think is fun.

As long as you know the game but choose fun over super meta speedrun frame savin strats you're fine
>>
Since a couple updates back, i've been unable to click any steam overlay option from inside the game, for example "INVITE FRIENDS" or "GAMEHUB", etc.

Clicking on them does nothing, and no window pops up.

Tried with BLT hook disabled, no mods, no change.
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>>121295702
Just be yourself ;)
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>players who don't have 6 cable ties

auto kick desu
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>>121296412
>needing six hostages
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>>121296412
>wasting points
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>>121296412
Yeah, I always need to have 24 cable ties on Slaughterhouse.
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>>121296613
>not needing a backup
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>>121296613
>>121296705
>Not wanting to delay the cops in between assaults and have less special cops spawn
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>>121297772
Don't act dumb.
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>>121297772
>having trouble with specials
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>>121297772
>not wanting more for more fun
Why even play?
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>>121298007
ON THE GOD DAMN GROUND
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>>121298102
>Hostages affecting specials in the first place
Come on, grade school heisting knowledge here.
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>>121297772
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>>121298405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFjVDTr8hw

#banger
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I know its reddit but fuck it, we play this game too so it's extremely related

https://www.reddit.com/r/paydaytheheist/comments/3r7ylu/devtalk_weapon_balance_discussion_with_overkill/

Copy and paste for the autists:

>In this thread I will present the different changes that we're planning to do and update them based on your feedback and suggestions. After a while we will release a Beta with the planned changes we’ve gathered in this thread.
>We will open other threads as we go to discuss other game changes. In this thread we will only discuss the weapon balance. We'll mark those threads as DevTalk

>Here is our proposed changes for the first update to the weapon balance pass:
>General : All weapons will be able to benefit from the fear effect from Muscle perk deck. Disturbing the Peace perk: “You can now use light machine guns, submachine guns and sniper rifles to spread panic among your enemies. Panic will make enemies go into short bursts of uncontrollable fear.”
>Pistol : All Pistols’ damage will be reduced by 15 damage.
>Shotguns : The M1014, Izhma 12G , Predator 12G, Stakeout 12G and Street Sweeper will have their damage increased by 10.
>Rifles : The accuracy for low damage Assault Rifles ( < 45 ) will be raised by 4 to 8 points.

>Process:
>Discussion regarding weapon balance (first pass)
>Presentation of the second pass
>Introduction of playable beta with the changes
>Additional discussion, changes to be made during beta, testing
>Release to main game
>What do you guys think about these proposed changes? What would you want to have changed? I’m looking forward to your feedback and suggestions!
He also said there will be a separate thread for perk decks

What change does /pdg/ want to see?
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>>121299839
N E R F
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D E A G L E
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>>121299839
Muscle is already the best deck for armor, giving it a minor buff doesn't make much sense.
Blanket changes like -15 damage will do jack shit for the worst offenders and make many of the average pistols just plain shit. +4-8 accuracy is a laughably tiny change, I'm not sure what Overkill is trying to do.
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>>121297772
>Not wanting more meat to chew up and spit out.
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>>121299839

I want a better AI and less abusive cloakers.
Playing PD:TH feels just right, cops destroy you easily so you can do stupid shit like running everywhere killing everything and snipers were goddamn annoying, not just useless. Also, definitely better perks, there is no point on not using Muscle basically, and Crook, Armorer, Crew Chief and all that stuff are pretty much useless.
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>>121299839
>>121300303
Realistically, they need to reevaluate what it means to be a primary vs secondary then determine what "viable" means in that context.
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>>121300326
I'm pretty sure these ideas are still up in the air
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>>121299453
I SEY GUD JOB
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>>121299839
>>Pistol : All Pistols’ damage will be reduced by 15 damage.
>DEagle will still be the best weapon in the game
>Mauser will become an even bigger piece of shit
Bravo, Overshill.

>>All weapons will be able to benefit from the fear effect from Muscle
But... why? Muscle is already one of the best decks.
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>>121304456

To further turn it into the objectively best deck over the other viable ones.

Do you really expect Overshit to provide -good- changes at this point over questionable or unnecessary ones?
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>>121307442
10/10
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>>121294469
Sokol should have said Sweet Momma
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>>121288096
>>Call me the cloaker smoker
literally a recycled Clover line
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>>121295702
same bruh
same
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>>121309383
>Sokol thinks Clover is cool so he copies what she says
Cute.
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who wants to do some mask achieves???
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>>121313334
I don't
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>>121313334
im am
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ペイデイ
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>>121252853
>trying to get this to work
>first time using BLT, am skrub
>wont fucking work
Send help. I put it in the mods folder, what am I doing wrong?
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>>121316189
Got it appearing in the mod menu, but still no skins. Any idea why?
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>>121252853
So, if I join in an online game, will my weapon be seen with the skin? Or will they just see a normal gun?
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>>121317008
Apparently hosts can see the skin if you join a pub, while other clients cannot. And you don't get marked as a cheater for it.

You do get kicked from a helluva lot of pubs for using a legendary skin though.
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working free skin mod that isnt goonmod when?
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>>121323269
>>121252853
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>>121323675
I didn't look hard enough, thanks senpai
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>>121323269
>>121324163
>wanting anything to do with Overkill's cancerous bullshit

fuck off fag
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Which barrel is better on the Vulcan? Stumpy or long?
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What should I do other than hox or rats for exp? Been doing those non stop all day and I need a change.
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>>121324858
Neither adds or subtracts enough from the already tiny accuracy and stability to be noticeable so whatever you like.
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>>121324683
im too lazy to make my own skins with goonmod so i wanted overshills shitty skins
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>>121324858
long barrel + half that kit + Led Combo + accuracy skin.

Can't promise you'll have a good time still.
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>>121323269
>Overkill_Coyote,
>asking for a free skin mod,

very subtle undercover.
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>>121326606
alright you caught me ;)
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i won a copy of pd2 and a free dlc of my choice, but i already have all dlc

first post with id and dlc gets it
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Does anyone have a link to the modified Pocohud posted in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYibgPhqQhY ?
I want to be an absolute asshole to my friends.
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>>121328247
>tfw most of my friends are pocofags.


This shit is starting to get too far.
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>>121328696
I only use it for buff indicators, some timers, and better damage direction indication arcs.
I also remember reading something that using bipods and poco damage arcs at the same time sometimes crashes the game, dat true?
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Serious question guys, is it possible to activate the Overkill skill by just sawing deposit safes ?

There must has to be alternatives to berserker basic to be able to open safes in one tape.
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>>121331824
no, overkill is only triggered on enemy death.
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>>121332013
Well, i guess that underdog basic with the client-side bug will be the last hope to be able to one-tap safes.
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4 crew achievements are the worst, prove me wrong
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>>121332683
>he doesn't know that Guessing game is the true horror.
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>>121332910
joined a game opened a box and got this in a couple minutes
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>>121332910
Nigga thats easy as fuck and even a faggot can solo it on normal
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>>121332265
you can already one tap safes without any skills

wtf you talkin about
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>>121332910
anon please, my ptsd
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>>121299839
>All weapons will be able to benefit from the fear effect from Muscle perk deck
Whatever. As long as it doesn't make the game any more challenging because we wouldn't want to scare off the target audience.
>All Pistols’ damage will be reduced by 15 damage
So instead of choosing between several OP pistols you will choose between bronco and deagle.
>Shotguns
Polishing a turd.
>Rifles
ANY kind of buff is welcome at this point.
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>>121299839
I'd say just revert to pre-crimefest and go from there. Does this guy work for deagle or something?
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>Futa Bonnie
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>>121334756
Not futa if it's been a man all along anyway.
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>does one last run for the night
>equip crook build skills and weapons
>downed 6 times
>wondering why I'm doing bad
>I had the suit on and forgot to equip LBV
>losing ~10 dodge and ~100 armor and not noticing
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>tfw everyone will use the angry-beear skin for the bernetti for broken SB/LB builds now that the skin unlocker is out.

Expect things to get out of control in the next days /pdg/.
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>>121335309
>Do a Mallcrasher DW job with friends,
>had to quickly quit in order to take a saw and c4 on a regular techforcer build for extra money,
>only realized at the end i was stuck in a suit,

Best part is i wasn't even the most downed player.
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>added a guy from this thread months ago
>after never speaking to them they just linked me this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98

who /scaredandconfused/ here?
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I have an infinite "!" sign on my inventory after the Halloween update with the 5 new weapon pages, but I don't know what the fuck is "new", someone else got this problem?
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>>121336690
Yeah, I've got that too, it's driving me fucking insane.
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>>121336679
He is a faggot and sent you the wrong one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKKbxZvj0lQ
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>>121336690
Did you use the Restoration mod or DMCWO before?
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>>121336679
He just likes you. Invite him on a Overdrill or Doctor miserable job.
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>>121336679
Does he happen to be Finnish? Maybe he's sending you his new mixtape.
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>>121336679
that just means he's a /f/ag
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WHY IS SOKOL'S FOREHEAD SO
HUGE
U
G
E
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>>121338203
skull too small for big russian brain
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>>121333058
What's shit that never happened, Alex?
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>>121339952
I just did it on less of 6 minutes
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>>121339351
ITS SO BIG
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>>121335953
>not going suit techforcer
Going slow is the absolute worst.
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/eqSpkLHIjeFgDa:tOpmIJFGbCda:ghECda:feGCa:ibcdea:pN8::w76::a1
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>>121339952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI3KRXs0ymQ#t=7m40s
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>>121332683
The worst

>Still no Pain Train
>Wind of Change
>Unusual Suspects


>>121336690
Probably gone after the event ends
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>>121340417
>mfw grinder techforcers are actually a thing.
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>>121341162
best perk tbqh, famalam
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>>121285261
>not the version with bonnie
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>>121340417
>saw skills but no ima
>no mag plus
Not sure if bait.
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mda:eqRopkHIjEFgbDa:tRophIJEFGbCda:ghECa:fa:ibcdea:pN8::w34-18-8-30-34-33-11:s32-13-43-5-41-38:

>>121341162
That's grinder for you.
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>>121336690
run this lua
Global.blackmarket_manager.new_drops = {}
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Silenced Vulcan when?
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>>121342345
>ima
I don't understand what you're getting at? Iron Man? Not even once...

And what the hell would you need Mag Plus for?
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>>121345365
If you're going fast might as well shoot some cops while you're at it, no? And what's the point of going all the way up tech and not even touching the best skills it has to offer?
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>>121345365
Iron Man Aced lets you shoot while sprinting, and melee shields to knock them back. Granted, the second bit is unlikely to happen, but it's a bonus when you're running around.

And Mag Plus is pretty much a skill that is useful in any loud build. The less time reloading, the more time spent shooting cops.
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>>121259364
don't you mean the makarov?
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>>121259364
Shame they both are tiny fish in the big deagle ocean.
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>>121345967
>>121346051
Drum mag, niggers
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>>121347920
Drummag what?
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>>121348484
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/::w76-13::
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>>121348593
Yeah I too wish aa-12 wasn't as shit as it is right now.
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>>121348837
It's one of the absolute best shotguns, it's just that shotties ain't in a good place right now.
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>>121348593
>Steakout
lol
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>Been playing nothing but Slaughterhouse since it was added because all of the vanilla/DLC Payday 2 maps are garbage
>I'd play a lot more First World Bank if it weren't for Overdrill faggots

What is this feel?
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>>121350208
>What is this feel?
Nostalgia, which is fine.
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>>121345365
>that Hoxton.

10/10 would breakout her on DW
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>>121350789
> Hoxton
More like Houston
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Daily reminder that Evil Eye is the best track of the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTLjf2hYOF8
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>>121351586
Oi! Dallas! You should tell your brother to change his name to Houston!
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>>121331824
High speed motor + Sharp blade on the saw m80.
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>>121352016
*ahem*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0YbD1AIeE
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>>121326039
>half that kit
That ammo penalty is brutal though and I don't think it makes you sanic anymore.
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>>121348979
Mosconi is probably a better shotgun primary.
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