War Games General - /wgg/

>>121179186
It still had a seafaring fleet in the 80's (21 ship strong) and they stopped having seafaring ships in the early 00's iirc, after some really bad fuck ups. Just because you are landlocked doesn't mean you can't have a fleet, you can rent a port for example.
Also the Danube is connected to the Black Sea, which allowed merchant/cargo ships to have a home port at Budapest.

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God I love that plane. Shame it was so short-lived.

These threads are too fast maaan.

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>>121192960
Gotta go fast, amerikanski.

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>>121192935

Old thread: >>120963916

>dead
>again

fug

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>>121197596
Too busy reading the manuals for BMS.
Maybe I'll be ready for my first take off by christmas.

>>121198363
What stick do you use?

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>>121199515
Point and laugh.

I found it to be good value for the price and it works well with DCS and anything less sim than that. Not sure about BMS yet, but I'm about to dole out for a better stick soon anyway.

>>121200384
Yeah.. I can't imagine that working very well for BMS nor A-10C.

I won't point and laugh though. Simming is an expensive and milked out hobby sadly

>>121202146
That's already in the lit archive

>>121202146
Is it any good?

>>121200384
>Point and laugh
Nah, flight sims are expensive dude, I think it's kind of cool that your persevering despite having subpar equipment.

As someone who doesn't have TrackIR, shooting down someone that has it is a sick feeling

>>121203068
Open source headtracking costs less than 20 bucks.

>>121203192
Cost a bit more here but yeah I could make one, just haven't had any time

>>121203287
>Cost a bit more here
Where do you live and how much would you have to pay to get a PS3eye?

>just haven't had any time
It takes like two hours tops, and even then you can still use facetracknoir's face tracking.

>>121203041
The Soviets win, so no

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>>121200615
Yeah, the A-10C is quite keyboard heavy and the lack of hat switches and shit makes it less than ideal.
No problem with the Ka-50 and Mig-21.

>>121203068
Thanks. Started with using the hat switch to look around but I knew I needed proper head tracking asap. It's well worth the time/money investment.

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based OPLOT

fascist invader go home

>>121203446
Canada, an eye is about 40 where I live.

>Two hours tops
Yeah, quite literally haven't had that much time. Been working my ass off on a project, should hopefully have the time soon though.

>>121205536
>an eye is about 40 where I live.
You fucking serious m8? I got mine for like 8€ off amazon. You can probably get them almost for free second hand and it's basically impossible to fuck up one of them.

>Been working my ass off on a project
That better be an RC plane.

>>121205732
Oh I didn't think about amazon.

An RC plane would be cool, but actually I'm finding possible land fill sites for the region I live in

>>121203192
If you can even make it fucking work. I've been trying to make mine work for 6 months and I haven't gotten far enough to even use this shit in a game yet. I'm calling it quits and I'm gonna buy Trackir.

>>121206303
>If you can even make it fucking work.
It's not rocket science. All of the softwares that handle open source headtracking can make so that the games think you're using trackir, and IIRC most of them, including freetracknoir do that by default.

>>121203192
>>121206590
I used open source headtracking for about a year, I even threw together my own ir leds mounted on hat, I felt like I had beaten the Jew, but it never felt as smooth as trackir vids I had seen, and the software was meh not to mention some games not supporting it or having to mod games to get it to work. I finally bit the bullet and bought trackir and have not looked back desu.

>>121203041
The soviets win, so yes.

>>121208482
A world with the Soviets in charge would be pretty shitty.

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Anyone else have Black Sea?

>>121208579
t. capitalist
seriously though I thought it was a pretty good book

>>121208652
>don't have it
>check gameplay video on YT
>comments are about monkey model T-72s and bad crews
>MURRICA FUCK YEAH sprinkled on top with the usual posturing
It's like I'm reading /wgg/
Game looks interesting though, how is it?

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>>121209226
I really like it, though I knew I would cause I've been playing CM for years.

The russian tanks are T72B3s, T90As and T90AMs, so I don't know why people are calling them monkey models. The US M1A2 SEPs pound for pound are better, but the Russians usually have more tanks or more organic AT weapons so it balances out.

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[trigger warning for russiaboos]

This skin pack is a mod

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>>121209459
Alright, thanks.
>so I don't know why people are calling them monkey models.
It was mainly because
>T-90 FUCK YEAH
>until it gets BRRRRRRT'd
>lol good luck penning it
>it's just a slightly upgraded T-72 anyway and we know how they stand up to american weapons ;)
And it went all downhill from there.

>Combat Mission: Afghanistan
Welp, time to save the world.

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>Get hit by missle
>Live and regain control
>HUD, radar, stabilizer systems and and hydraulics gone
>Remember what Tony taught me
>Switch HUD to boresight and start using my r-73s as a scanning pod
>Get lock
>Get kill
God bless you Tony

>>121210689
>Tony knows about boresight + longitudinal mode trick
Maybe he isn't so bad after all...

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>>121210661
Afghanistan was okay. I got kinda bored with it because the muj obviously had a limited selection of troops.

My current favs are BS, Normandy, and Red Thunder

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>AirTronicUSA demonstrated two Americanized and greatly improved RPG-7v2 based weapons at the key for American defense procurement AUSA (Association of the United States Army) exhibition mid October 2015. The first is a somewhat lightened tweak called the PSRL-1 and is a slightly lighter weapon than the RPG-7V2 featuring Eotech Red Dot Sight with additional ability to take magnified sights and other goodies on no less than three Picatinny rails, which are also found on the vastly more capable PSRL-2. The article is confusing in that it referred to both Red Dot sights and AirtronicUSA custom designed sights. Range is considerably enhanced via the sights, but also by new, already in production ammo with far more lethal warheads. This weapon enters production second quarter next year. The second, the PSRL-2, is such a radical redesign that with its camouflage paint it looks like something out of Halo. It weighs half of what the Russian weapon weighs. Both weapons have a 90% first round hit probability at 800 meters--twice that of the RPG-7V2 As if that wasn't exciting enough, guided rounds are already in development with a 2000 meter range, creating a much cheaper than Javelin option for killing things! These Americanized RPGs seem entirely credible to me as candidates for inclusion in CMBS at some point. Supplying Ukraine with these, especially the lightweight and very durable PSRL-2, would greatly improve Ukrainian ability to defend vs armored attack.

>Both weapons have a 90% first round hit probability at 800 meters--twice that of the RPG-7V2

wow didnt know battlefront forums were this burger , i cant stop clapping

http://community.battlefront.com/topic/121078-americanized-rpg-7v2-for-us-fms-sof/

>>121211831
The fact that modern Russia is 20 years behind the states in R&D isn't just a meme, m8.

>>121211831
>an updated weapon is better than the one it is based off
wow no shit

if only ukraine would actually be able to afford that shit

>>121212123
>>121212184
> 90% first round hit probability at 800 meters
>unguided rpg
no, sorry.

>>121209150
I liked that it wasn't a massive techjerk like most other books of this type. I think you can count on one hand the number of times a vehicle is referred to by its designation ("F-16" or "T-80").

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHNEEZps014&feature=youtu.be

Launched a bunch of rockets at trucks before exploding from previous damage. Seems fitting for frogfoot

>tfw dodging 8 sparrows
>tfw finally score a kill with an R-27R, at point blank

>>121212409
Depends on what they did to the rocket itself. With a fast enough projectile and really good sights you could probably do that.

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memes

>>121208652
I've been wanting to get it for for a while now but I'm not willing to spend a full $60 USD on it, the Australian dollar is crap right now and that's like at least $80 AUD

I had fun with the demo though, I found the larger scale combined arms scenario it included quite challenging, the open terrain it was on made advancing with the Armour very frustrating as the opposing hill was littered with entrenched ATGM teams. It was my first experience of ATGMs in Combat Mission and it was very rough.

I see it in the OP but has anyone actually fucked around with Steel Beasts?

>>121209226
I love this meme of /wgg/ not being a bunch of paranoid slavboos.

>>121228897
Vasily has

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If that anon who's an IRL pilot is here, and if he's having trouble getting the accu-feel addon to work with FSX:SE - you have to install another addon called "FSUIPC". It will ask for a registration but just cancel when that comes up. After that, accu-feel should ask if you want to run and trust it when you launch FSX. If that's not enough, also follow the directions that you'll find from the first result in google.

Nobody should have to deal with this convoluted bullshit ever again.

>>121231654
FSUIPC is a staple of FSX modding, it should just ship with the game ffs

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>>121232154
Yeah. Anyway, time for sleep now that progress has been made.

Looking for some modern-ish air to air combat game.

Got any good recommendations for me? Ty!

>>121239879
literally DCS

>>121239879
If you ever get into DCS, look tony up. He's ex special forces and can teach you a thing or two.
See >>121210689

>>121208129
>>121207243
>>121205150
>>121210663

What game is this?

>>121243193
combat mission black sea

>>121239879
BMS 4.33 is FREE, contains f16, f18, harrier, mirage 2000c, tornado, clickable cockpits, with a few like f15e, f14, f5 being mostly playable. You can shoot HARMs, Harpoons, AMRAAMS, bunker cratering bombs, as well as glide bombs. Far much more content than BMS, albeit at a slightly lower quality and graphics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMOOOulhME

>>121247853
On a scale of FC3 to A-10C, how 'difficult' is BMS?

Does it have MP?

>>121248136
Closer to A10C than FC3. This is mostly due to the fact that the tutorials are poor and most teaching material are YT videos and field manuals. Though you don't even need to learn to ramp start unless you join some online pvp events. Oh yeah, theres MP. It's a bit clunky because the game is from 1999 but as with the rest there's a lot of material online about it

>>121248136
I'm in the process of learning it right now

It's kinda similar to the A10C hotas (DMS, TMS, CMS, Slew) but the systems are MUCH simpler and way more userfriendly (for instance instead of weapon profile shenanigans, you can just press one single button on the weapon display to change ripple quantities)

It's like a crossover between the DCS F15C and the DCS A10C

The biggest hurdle is the lack of documentation. Also it has much more content so naturally there's more you need to learn in terms of aircraft, missiles / bombs and anti air

>when your gear down game is on point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCCVkohg1zE

>>121249395
I'd love to do BMS, but I only have one hat and it's rather impossible to bind 4 different things to 1 hat which IS possible in DCS.

>>121250157
I love how the guy says he's like drunk, when pilots do that shit for formation training and just to be cheeky cunts.

>>121250157
>that smoke

>>121200384
hey, thats what i use! it's not very acurate and has a lot of play, but it was like $50. i kind of like it

>>121208652
i have it, i love it. its my wargaming fix now, currently on the 2nd part of crossing the dnieper

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>>121242140
Quality post

See >>121242140
Tony isn't active duty anymore but apparently was part of the Comando de Operações Especiais. I don't really think he has to prove it, it's pretty obvious to be quite honest.

If you give DCS a try (it's free) definitely go on the TS and see if Tony can give you a lesson or too, he's a cool guy and really knowledgeable

>>121252319
You could get one of those cheapo "gaming keypads" or whatever they are and bind some keys to it I guess.

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r8

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>even 4chan is a better place to discuss plons than traditional forums

>>121258045
>thinking I have money
sorry to dissapoint

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>>121259072
>is into flight sims
>is poor

foolish tbqh

>>121259174
I got declined from the airforce because I'm apparantly colorblind, else I'd be doing BMS in real life.

>>121259637
You wouldn't be doing BMS in real life you'd be sitting there playing BMS because the country has no money for fuel or maintenance.

>>121260096
How do you know where I'm from?

>>121260359
Unless you are from the US or Russia, Israel and perhaps Britain, dis be da truth.

>>121260096
It's really starting to dawn on me how costly maintaining an air force is becoming with each new generation of aircraft. It seems the only country able to maintain a sizable air force without completely going bankrupt is the US.

As much as I am a slavaboo at heart, the US undeniably has air superiority over pretty much the entire globe.

Something tells me that the future of air combat does not lie in having few expensive stealth planes, but having plenty, cheap, conventional ones.

That's just me though.

>>121260765
If previous conflicts are anything to go by, it's that there will be even more issues with IFF because of even more ECM, and that's going to force engagements to be closer and closer.

>>121258267
if this was my deck id drop one of the vehicle recons and maybe get the leopard 2 base. also the maybe drop one of the helos for the 20mm, and get a infantry cv and drop the milan 2's. i would also take some flegerfaust, but thats just me

How do you stop someone from constantly suiciding ATGM aircraft into your super heavies?
>Put down AA, AA can't kill MiG-27 in time
>Use ASF, can't kill MiG-27 in time
>lose game because opponent is spamming modernas and you cant put down any superheavies of your own because mig-27

>>121262328
Valid criticism senpai, thanks.

>>121263346
Use your superheavies as defensive tools and break los from time to time.
>spamming modernas
>2 units is spam
Alternatively get gud and stop relying on single units. Besides, if atgm planes are so good why didn't you kill the modernas?

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You have been visited by the veteran Mig-27 of dual missile strikes and HEAT gatling gun. Destroyed superheavies and salty hatobabies will come, but only if you post "SLAVA MIG-27" in this thread.

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>>121263629
CЛABA MиГ-27 !!!

>>121263584
Because >blue dragons
>>121263629
Sorry for ragequitting. I'm a sore loser.

>>121263629
>implying I play ussr
It's not good enough for me desu. I like my tanks and inf not to be dogshit and the couple of unique stuff it has don't make up for lolnoworkhorse.

>>121263818

i dont blame you, it must be pretty demorializing do you wave after wave of your superheavies just removed from the field again and again and again and again and again your AA being able to stun the attackers at best

>>121263818
>losing 4 kyu-maru
lel
Was it a 10v10?

>>121263959
It's not even that, because we were able to kill your planes. It's just that we were only capable of killing your planes AFTER they killed our superheavies.

>>121264101

about half of the migs surived their runs, not that it really matters when they are THAT cost efficent

and by the way, F-1s arent as good as people make them out to be. Alot of slav tanks have great top armor. Switch them to Peace Pheasents with mavericks or something

>>121263818
>tfw space pheasant

>>121264086

i counted the five, the first 2 were from Mig runs, the 3rd was from a straight up 2v1 moderna gangrape, the last 2 were from a dubs mig-27 run

(the jet lived))))))))))) )

>>121264210
The peace pheasants with mavericks are garbage. I'll give them another try
>>121264086
it was 4v4 low income

>>121264430

they may be garbage, but if the other guy moves his tank 5 feet, that 'muh era' 4 or 5 top armor is gonna laugh at that LGB

>>121264338
>the jet lived)))))))))))
LEL
>F-1s arent as good as people make them out to be
They are. The ability to target every unit in the game with 100% accuracy and good damage is invaluable.
>>121264430
>low income
Oh.

>>121264594

but if you bother to re-position your superheavies they are useless, atleast a peace pheasent can target moving targets

>>121264689
So can lgb senpai.

>>121264810

muh top mounted ERA tovarsich))))

>>121247853
>NO IFF
>O

>I
>F
>F

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=TEwmxye3Fkw

>>121250157
i always wondered how they get some of those pics

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Do any of you have FSX:SE running in borderless window with anything? Tried liked 4 tools and the closest I got was one of them leaving black areas on 2 sides.

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This look okay to you, /wgg/?

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>>121266875

get atleast one pf the Spetz in BTR-80s (14.5mm) if your not going for the 90


Get an exceptional ground recon vehicle

trade the Su-24m for an il-102

>>121248136
The F-16 itself is close to the A-10C, but not quite as complicated because the F-16 was designed to be all automated whereas all that computer stuff was hacked onto the A-10C.

The F-16 is a pretty straightforward and easy jet to fly. Even the startup is very simple. The hardest part is just making sure all your stuff is configured right after startup. Air to ground weapons deployment is pretty similar between the two from what I understand. Air to air combat is not that far removed from FC3 because air to air combat just isn't very complicated from a systems management point of view.

>>121270196
>there's a reason my favored nation is stronger than yours

>>121270729
Funny how this works for /wgg/ slavaboos too

>>121271138
How is life in america where the citizen has no right beside consuming?

>>121271138

posted from my hard to use Raven

>>121271138
You know what's funny

the slavaboos don't even play wargame

>>121270447
What jet?

>>121273448
>friendly grach tips with rockets.jpg

>>121273448
Looking at the cockpit, it's the ka-50.

>>121273448
I'm sure it's the Mig-31

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>>121273448

>>121273448
T-62SM1

>>121270447
No. Unguided rockets are naturally inaccurate and there's a good chance you'll miss anyway.

>>121273448
The Concorde

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DCS COOP WHEN?

>mig 21
>you have to take your hands off the throttle to dispense flares and chaff

what were they thinking

>>121276396
It depends on the range, and not at the range on the picture, and you should fire in salvos, unless you are like insanely good, also wind will affect rockets and bullets.

>>121277059
>ka-50 you need to take your hands off the controls to dispense countermeasures
>Su-27 you need to take your hands off the controls to adjust radar altitude scan and horizontal scan
>Su-27 need to take your hands off the stick to change countermeasure programing

I bet i'm mission another 100 examples of terrible ergonomics, but anon i don't think they were. Well either that or Pov switches, buttons and wiring were really expensive for the soviets.

So DCS mission editor, anyone played around with the hidden dynamic weather lua stuff, and whether i causes massive FPS shitting in MP?

>>121277698
>hotas
>your hands are on stick and throttle
>except for these vital function that you need access to within split seconds during combat

>oh I know, let's hide the chaff/flare dispense button under a cover to make it extra difficult during high g loads

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>>121278157
I can't read slav but for what it's worth this is what a modern Su-35 stick and throttle look like.

>>121278157
the dispense button is on the hotas, the countermeasure programs (Which of you can only have 3 because FUCK YOU) is on the left side of the cockpit.
That in it's self isn't that much of an issue, but the radar controls needing the pilot to take his hands of the hotas is retarded, especially since the radar is fuck all automated.

>Boris we have really advanced autopilots to reduce pilot workload, Why don't we automate the radars functions so that we can further reduce pilot workload
>TO THE GULAG WITH YOU PYOTR

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>>121278775
Yeah but this is the su-27 hotas and you can see it's pretty bear bones

>>121278826
>the dispense button is on the hotas

Not on the 21

It's literally on the panel under a cover

>>121279201
>english
Comrade what the fuck.

>>121270196

Btw the context for this is someone defending the SU-27S against F-15J.

>Blue dragons are too strong already, they don't need any more buffs.

>>121279538
lel

>>121263884
And yet people still say pact doesn't have overpriced shit.

>>121267527
why are you trying to make his deck worse

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>>121270447
This is incorrect.

I don't know if the Grach's targetting computer works like this in real life but in DCS, you can only get a guaranteed hit with laser-guided weapons if you lock your target when it's in the boresight of the laser rangefinder.

When you select a laser-guided weapon, like the S-25L or the Kh-25ML, the laser rangefinder is locked in a position that you can only slew out of when you have the laser on, HOWEVER, if you slew the reticle too far down, you will not be able to hit your target. What you CAN do, is lock your target when it's near (about a distance equal to the radius of the reticle) and move your plane so you don't fly directly into your target. In the gunsight, it will seem as though the reticle is WAAAAY off target (it would be above it), but believe me, it's DEAD ON.

>>121279343
We are talking about 2 different planes.

>>121280636
That's with laser guided missiles though.
His image dealt with unguided (laser assisted) rockets.

>>121280636
>guided weapons on Grach

No such thing.

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>>121270447
>>121280636
Here is the correct way of targetting with Laser-Guided Weapons.

>>121266875
I'm new here, what game is this?

>>121266875

BTR-90 for Spetsnaz, swap transports with the GRU.

VDV should be in wheeled, so they can keep up with the spetz.

Remove MSTA, replace with Nona.

Buk at trained, no need for hardened

Personal thing, I would put the CV in another transport, and replace a GRU with Razvedka in Ural. This gives you a cheap tripwire recon you can put everywhere.

Replace one of the BI with a 64BV or BVI. T-72BI struggle with things like M1A1 or Leo2A1, but you only have 2 BU's.

BMPT overlaps a lot with 122-54, but is less efficient. Could remove BMPT and bring another helo, KA-50 probably.

With KA 52, perhaps replace the 28 with a 24V.

>>121281195
Wargame: Red Dragon

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>>121281246
>VDV should be in wheeled, so they can keep up with the spetz.

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>>121281246
>replace a GRU with Razvedka in Ural
>Buk at trained, no need for hardened
>Wheeled VDV

>>121280874
Still doesn't solve the problem of how incredibly difficult it is to get on target in the first place.

>>121280874
The correct way of using guide weapons on the su-25A is leaving them at home, they are only going to get you shot down, and you'll be way faster and more effective with rockets, and the guided stuff doesn't give you any range advantage over the big rockets anyway.

>>121279538
>Blue dragons are too strong already, they don't need any more buffs.

that's completely right though

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Some of you autists should enjoy this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAnqbFiLbyM

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>mfw I realize that HE MLRS 270 uses very little supplies
also winning with sub 50% win rate team mates vs 65%+ teams bros ww@? Even managed to conquer that large mid town in the center of mudfight lyl.

I want to fuck a plane, and not an anthropomorphization of it either. Help me /wgg/.

>>121283331
Find a woman that has the curves of a plane.

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>>121283331

>>121283664
That still wouldn't be a plane.

>>121283957
>not an anthropomorphization of it either.

>>121283331
e621.net

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>>121283331
Not your personal pimp.

>>121285847
>Personal Pimp
that could be the opening track of a hip hop album

>>121282101

Brainfart with the VDV, but the guy already had a card of GRU, and the rest of his recons were all low avail units. Ural Razvedka cost 20 points each, and can be spread around to spot flanks and infiltrating SF.

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How hard is BMS 4.33 to get into compared to the more advanced DCS modules like A-10C or MiG-21? Am I going to have to read hundreds of manual pages or will the training missions do the job?

Pic related is my shit setup (w/Facetrack NoIR). I have TIR4 but it's a pain in the ass to setup and wires bother me.

>>121291729
facetracknoir>tarckIR

well what reality is this?

>>121291729
Get reading faggot or watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU3pmXvnc0k

>>121292079
It's objectively worse than TIR, I just like the convenience of just using my built-in camera.

>>121208652
I'd play it if you uploaded it somewhere.

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>issue an order to make an attack run
>it starts raining before the aircraft makes it's run
>aircraft is not all-weather capable
>20 minutes later it's a clear night

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>>121294478
HEXBABBIES

LEAVE

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>>121294836
Fuck off, Kerri.

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>>121294836

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Hide red dragon post

Ignore FSX posters

Do not reply to hex simulator posts

This thread is now under the supreme authority of DCS.

DCS COOP WHEN

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>>121294836

>>121295434
>falseflag operation.

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>shitposting
Just post a BMP if you have nothing to say.

>>121291729
If you know how fly the A-10C, then the hardest part of learning Falcon BMS is the idiosyncrasies in binding your keys.

The F-16 is a simpler plane than the A-10C.

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>>121291729
>Am I going to have to read hundreds of manual pages

yes

>will the training missions do the job?

no such thing as a training mission on bms, senpai

>How hard is BMS 4.33 to get into?

It's nigh impossible to map the controls(you need to use the included shitty MS excel spreadsheet to do it), the interface sucks.

Just stay in DCS, it's better in every way, unless the F-16 really interests you, in which case, good fucking luck.

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Please deliver me from the scourge of NATO-only players

I haven't played NATO in so long, folks....

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>>121294836
>>121295434
>Being this much of a faggot
Fuck off kerri

>>121284358
>implying anyone without a brain defect wants to see those horrifying human fetish planes

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>>121296270
>you need to use the included shitty MS excel spreadsheet to do it
Sort of but not really.

In 4.33 they redid the default keybind files to be way better than before. Like, they are leagues better than before. For most of the functionality, the easiest way to bind the keys is to go into BMS, load one of the default keyfiles (I used BMS-Basic) and then just start binding the stuff you need in the menu right there.

If you have something that maps reasonably well to the real stick (X-55, CH HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog), then I suggest using that as a starting point for how you should bind your stuff and then adjusting the binds as you see fit once you start using it and noticing that you'd rather move some things around.

Reference this for more info on what's on the real stick/throttle.
http://falcon4.wikidot.com/avionics:hotas

All of this is in the manuals though, which you should also be checking out when you have more detailed questions.

Like I said in my last post, the hardest part about learning BMS isn't the F-16, it's setting it up. It's totally worth it though because Falcon BMS is really fucking good at everything that DCS sucks ass at. Learn both. Play both. They're complement each other very well.

>>121296528
>socks still this butthurt

:)

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>gorgeous to look at
>simple and ergonomic controls
>mach 2.2
>lots of A-G options
>ONLY FOUR FUCKING MISSILES

I dunno guys. Is DCS: Mirage 2000 worth it?

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>>121296270
>Just stay in DCS, it's better in every way
B-but dynamic campaign.

>>121297512
>Lots of A-G options
>No TGP
>No laser designator

>>121297124
Good luck trying to assign shifted keys that way


Besides that I do agree with mostly everything you said.

>>121297512
>SFM
>lots of A-G options
>none of them guided or needs buddy lasing

>>121297124
>For most of the functionality
To expand on what the rest of that functionality is, because it's very specific, is the pinkie shift state.

BMS supports using the pinkie switch on the stick as a shift state. However, there's no way to bind that in the menu. To do it you need to either edit the keyfile yourself (don't bother), use the excel file (too complicated) or use the keyfile editor that some guy threw together a while ago.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/keyfileeditor/

It's not perfect, but it works well enough. It'll spit out a bunch of errors when you load your keyfile up but it's fine. Don't worry about it.

Once you have all your basic binds set up through the ingame menu, export your keyfile, then load it in the editor. With the editor you can then assign things to the shift state.

Treat it as your absolute last step in keybinding though, because if I remember right the keyfile editor removes the comments that makes binding ingame so easy, but it's been a while so I don't know for sure.

>>121296270
>Just stay in DCS, it's better in every way
Also ignore this guy. He's an idiot.

>>121297876
True but you can still carry 6 LGB's or so. Buddy lasing sounds interesting.

The anti-runway cluster missile sounds particularly fun.

>>121297512
Ask again when it's out. RAZBAM is totally unproven as a DCS developer. In the FSX community they're known for making pretty models but shitty flight models and systems.

Assuming the module is actually good, the Mirage should be about on the level of the MiG-29, just with less missiles and without the EOS. I'm looking forward to it mostly because it's the first 4th generation fully modeled DCS fighter and as long as the module doesn't suck I'll probably get it on that basis alone.

>>121298038
I'm getting the mriage as soon as it shows up on steam
>tfw BR livery

>>121297992
The keyfile editor isn't working properly in 4.33 for some reason. Assigning the pinky shift in it just toggles it when you press it in game.

>>121298253
>pretty models but shitty flight models and systems.
They said the AFM isn't even in alpha for the Mirage, so that checks out.

>>121298574
Oh, damn that sucks. I haven't bothered with trying to bind any shift states in 4.33 yet and I had heard from others that it was working fine as long as you didn't try to port over your old 4.32 keyfile.

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>>121298253
The FSX version of the Mirage 2000 is pretty well liked from what I've seen and read. Same with that Metroliner they made.

They can't possibly do worse than VEAO and get away with it.

>>121300371
>buying a DCS plane with SFM
>ever

pls

>>121300538
Pie pls
GIVE SFM A CHANCE

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WHEN CUSTARD

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>>121300371
What's so bad abotu VEAO?

>>121300917
Check how was the Hawk's development and you'll find out
Also they are jews who wanted you to pay extra for the EFM **that isn't even out yet**

>>121300917
The hawk is fucking trash and they have a list of about 50 planes long that they reckon they can do...
Then they get all butthurt when people question if they can deliver

>>121300590
Who is pie?

He's right though. The main catch of the planes labelled as DCS should be the advanced flight model and in depth simulation of systems. Anything which doesn't follows this is absolute heresy, the individual FC3 planes being the only acceptable exception.

I'll buy the fuck out of it once they release the AFM, until then, no way.

>>121300917
Everything.

>>121301156
Get ready for the massive dissapointment that the Typhoon will be

>>121301134
>>121301156
Well I always thought something was off with the Hawk but I didn't know about this.

There's a Mirage 2000 in BMS by the way.

>>121302739
You mean an f16 with a mirage skin

>>121300917
Over a year later, and their ONE aircraft is still a piece of shit with SFM and ugly cockpit textures. They have a roadmap of about 40 planes, but it'd take them a literal century to finish them at this pace.

They even wanted to sell the AFM version seperately and make users pay for the upgrade.

>>121287382
why not just be the one doing the infiltrating

>>121303024
GOTTA PAY UP IN ADVANCE FOR THAT AFM GOY

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>>121277059
Your throttle is going to be at 100% most of the time in combat anyway.

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>>121304085
pleb

my inch cock so hard
takes off slow as an A-10
cums; now F-18

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Any DCS ops on?

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>>121308081
I'm game if we get a host.

You might think this is a joke. It isn't. I've wanted to kill myself for a long while now, probably since around 12 years old. The only thing that alleviated my depression when I was younger were flight sims. They're the best games I'd ever played. I swore to myself when I got bored of DCS A-10C (two years after it came out) that I wouldn't kill myself until Fw 190 D-9 was released. I didn't count Combined Arms, because, well, it sucked. Now that F-14 is coming out, I don't know what to do with myself. I still want to die, but I can't just keep pushing it off until the next release. I'm addicted to the series, yes, but I'd like to have some motivation to live other than a video game. I feel so pathetic. I've attempted suicide twice before and been admitted to a ward for two weeks once, which only made things worse. What else is there to live for? People generally bore or upset me. I have a girlfriend, friends, family, pets, a job, everything I could really ask for. I'm not allowed to get medication as I'm still under my parents insurance. I'm working on going back to therapy, but my parent's think my depression is just in my head. I'd really love some advice, or just someone to talk about random shit online with.

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>VEAO Warbirds Collection
>We expect the first module to be ready at the end of this year (Q4 2014) with the remaining modules expected for release up to Q2 2015.
>all those subforums they have for all those nonexistent aircraft
It's quite pathetic if I want to be perfectly honest.

>>121308578
See a psychiatrist, get pills.
>it's just in your head
Well duh, where else would it be.

>>121308956
>See a psychiatrist, get pills.
For pasta? You have some weird eating habits.

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>>121308879
>if I want to be perfectly honest
Don't fight it senpai.

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>>121308879
>VEAO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>>121309084
Oh you.

>>121301274
There is a chance the Typhoon won't be trash. The RAF asked them (lol) to make it to train Eurofighter pilots.

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Tunnan when

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shit quality webm but just finished flying a sortie with Tone-LOC (Tony).

Got 3 F-4s and a Huey each. If you rolling in the east black sea you best check yourself because the big T and I got that shit on a lockdown. peace

Quick I need some good decks built around Leo's!

>>121308578
I just started getting better this summer, I've been off all my pills for a few months now. Life is the best it's ever been. I think what helped me the most was exercising (I don't even lift, I just started walking around and shit) and eating (was 103 pounds for a bit, have gained 20 pounds in the last few months).

I can't promise either of those will work for you tho. If you want people to just chill and talk with check the TS in the OP, we play DCS coop pretty frequently, especially on the weekends.

Get off your parents insurance or find a way to talk to a doctor and get on some medication. It won't magically fix everything but it would probably help

>>121309335
>
I never got into the fameme tee-bee-ecchi craze, so no fighting it.
I'm perfectly capable of weebing out on my own, I don't need wordfilters.

>>121309847
Only looked up their ED forum because they were mentioned before.

>>121297124
Because I have a Combatstick instead of a Fighterstick for my HOTAS, I can't map all these controls. Which ones should I leave out? That's 10 buttons, 1 ministick, and 6 hats. The stick also has a throttle wheel which I guess could be antenna elevation.

>>121203041
what book was it

>>121314393
Red Army by Ralph Peters.

>>121296438
It's OK. Come join the glorious red alliance comrade, we have lots of chinese specops and smerches waiting for you.

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>>121313519
I'm actually in the same situation as you with my X-55 when it comes to stick bindings. I can't map the countermeasures correctly on my stick because it's just a button like the Combatstick.

What I did instead was map the CMS to the Trim hat. You'll rarely ever have to trim with an F-16 anyway, so I just do it with the keyboard keys whenever the situation comes up. Eventually I'd like to put trim on the shift state for the trim hat if I ever get around to it, but it's not a big deal.

On the button where the countermeasures normally goes, I use that for my wheel brake because I have no pedals.

It doesn't matter too much where you map antenna elevation, but that's very important to map, so make sure you have it on an axis. You'll be adjusting it a lot when scanning for air targets.

The manual range knob you can safely ignore. It's not really needed in BMS because you'll rarely have trouble seeing targets on the A-G radar, but just be aware that pic related is what it does at extreme values. The default is in the middle.

>>121315412
>>121313519
Oh, the comms hat switch on the throttle is probably worth a special mention too.

If you don't plan on using the ingame comms with other players, the comms up/down are kinda pointless because you'll be handling all comms with the AI through the QWERTY menus. For the sake of consistency I still leave them bound there even though I never use them.

Comm switch left/right are interesting though. If you hold comm left for a second it'll start the datalink between the members of your flight which allows you to see them on your HSD. Not essential, but very useful. Comm right has something to do with assigning or sharing targets. I haven't used it myself, but I've seen it work in MP. I also noticed that now in 4.33 there's an option in the wingman menu about the datalink.

Either way, I still recommend binding everything as close as possible to the real thing. As you play more you'll pick on things you don't ever use, and things you wish were bound and over time you'll bind things as needed.

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Where the fuck is Falcon 4.0

>>121317318
Nevermind, I found it in the extras.

>>121317318
You only need the falcon4.exe to be able to install BMS

>>121317318
Nigger what are you doing

>>121318094
I could pirate easily but I'm not poor, and I don't know how much Windows Botnet I can block out.

Any tips for setting up input responses for 3d pro in IL2 bos? Like pitch and roll etc. Not great at setting up joysticks

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Is it worth it to drop 150 bucks on TrackIR? I'm tired of using the China Hat on my joystick for looking since its so slow and inaccurate.

>>121319074
Just make a Freetrack setup for a fraction of the cost if you're worried about the money.

PS3 Eyes go for super cheap.

>>121319074
This thread is turning into more /g/ and /vg/

Devfag here

I could start working on a bms keyfile generator that's as simple as possible (select function, press hotas button(combination)), or does something like that already exist?

It'd actually be rather simple

>>121321351
There's a program which does that for the time being, however, it's partially not working like >>121298574 mentioned.
Anything is better than the fucking excel sheet, really. However keep in mind that BMS key binding can get rather hairy with the shift layer.

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>DPRK will never get a cheap transport option for line infantry
>Their tank line will always be over priced and under performing
>They will never have a cost effective medium tier ASF to compete with the blue air domination
>They will never infantry AT weapons that aren't dog shit
>Never going to get a 10 man shock recon team
>Mi-25 will never go to 55 pts
>No konkurs infantry ever

I just want to spread the word of Juche to the non-believers.

>>121319643
>Freetrack
That shit is so out of date. It's better to go with PointTracker for Facetracknoir (I know, seems redundant) or mess around with Opentracker.

>>121324514

ive killed a rafele with one of their veteran Mig-23s

hell ive even downed an eagle with a hardened mig-21

>>121325675
If I put 3 white dogs on my hat or something, while having a lamp just behind my monitor to light my face, would PointTracker pick that up? Facetrack as it is is still jittery and slow to respond even with fine tuning.

>>121328558
I don't see any real inaccuracies here

>Russia was more powerful in the 1980s
The Soviet military was at its peak then

>They were defeated by Mujahedeen
They indeed were

>Mujahedeen had Mosin-Nagant rifles
Being an irregular bunch of rebels, Mujs had to make do with whatever they had, which included moist nuggets

>Russia is good at military atrocities and indiscriminate slaughter
Atrocities and slaughter are very easy to do so I can't see how it's possible to not be good at them

>but they kinda suck at war
Last real war the Soviets fought was WWII, which took place under such different circumstances from today's that it's hard to tell how it translates to the modern day. I don't know if they suck, if I had to give post-WWII Russia a grade, it would probably be "incomplete"

>Putin will bomb the shit out of goat herders and sand
Not like there's much else in Syria

>Russian media will claim they killed everyone in ISIS
Given the wide variety of Russian media, I'm sure someone will say this

>Russia will re-elect Putin
duh

>>121328558
go back to /pol/, faggot
>>121329623
good points

>>121329623
kek

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>>121333047

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After some cursory Googling, I still can't find what the difference between Men of War and Assault Squad is. Enlighten me?

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Do you think an F-14B has enough range to run a lap around Rainier, Saint Helens, Hood, and Adams?

>>121336927

the second assault squad has functioning multiplayer

Other than that its just a series of you vs Ai scenarios in world war 2

lots of things are differnet, but not anything worth shitposting about

if you want a good single player experience without having to download mods, buy some of the orignal men of wars, or buy the new assualt squad and download something like GSM

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>>121336934
Alright, found a distance measuring feature in google maps. Plenty of range to spare.

>>121336927
Heavier multiplayer focus, SP unit tab to help the pacing of the game in PvP so people aren't banking MP(Something they really need to add to Call to Arms before full release). Outside of that, it's smaller stuff. You get AS2 if you want to play with/against people. Original if you only care about singleplayer.

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Just finished this book. Excellently written and is absolutely going to influence the writing of my future AARs. Ralph does a brilliant job of presenting the human factor as most important in war - ultimately these high tech, modern gadgets are a liability if the men operating them, are.

Still, it's a bit of a misrepresentation to say straight up that "The Soviets win". The NATO defeat in the book is really a vietnam-style loss than a military defeat, although NORTHAG gets fucked up hard, CENTAG absolutely holds it's ground and the American counterattack seemed poised to retake everything west of the Weser. Were it not for the West Germans pussying out, in a few more days, the Soviets would have been ground to a halt.

>>121341416
Summarizing Red Army as "the Soviets win" is about as accurate as summarizing Red Storm Rising as "burgerclap fantasies". In both cases it just seems to be by people who are mad their favorite side didn't win, given that the most based characters in RSR are Russians, and the Soviets come within a cunt hair of winning the war, much like the Americans do in Red Army.

I do think Red Army is the superior book though, just on the strength of the writing of the characters and the lack of techjerk

https://youtu.be/rGnGhabCagI?t=1090
which one of you memers is that fucking butthurt uuuuuu guy? Raging with meme arrows and telling better players to kill themselves lmao pathetic

>>121342339
actually the whole losing team seems to be spamming ebig 4chan memes

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>be /mischief/
>pirate ORBX/FTX regions
>do it all correctly
>install pacific fjords
>no problems, activate NA region in FTX Central
>install northern rocky mountains
>FTX Central crashes, something about a duplicate landclass
>the only fix that doesn't involve shelling out hundreds of dollars for the legit copies involves scrolling through hundreds and hundreds of lines in the terrain.cfg file
>fuck that
>install pacific fjords again because ???
>it works now

Alright I guess I'll skip that region.

>>121342339
it was somone from the old group
there is a reason why there is a new one
and why DCS ops is happening
we ban these autists from TS and the new group

>be F16
>droppin' GBU12 on fools
>it doesn't stick to my laser guidance

Thanks BMS 4.33, thanks lasermode set to training by default

>>121343592
>>121342339


>someone from the old group

you don't even know who that nigger is lol

>>121342339
famous meme match senpai

>>121344957
"meme" as in well known example of shitters, or as in "I'm shit at this game so I spam maymeis ironically so my loss doesnt count"?

>>121345191
Meme as in, that shitter is meming it up so hard to compensate for his loss

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>>121342339

Yeah, that match didn't go too well.

Commentary is a bit inaccurate at a few stages - several times priyad mentions uuuuuu having 'no recon' despite the JSDF rangers recon being right there, with the tag beneath another unit.

>dude spetz stealth lmao


Trivial commentary of my gameplay was also laughable - At least bother to take a proper look at the replay before being all smug, just because one guy was leaqing

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>>121297809
>crashing a harrier

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>>121345352
its live commentary, so small inaccuracies are kinda explained by that. In any case, he had (I think) 0 recon near the small mountain, and in total one squad or so of recon for all that shit. It was in general pretty fucking bad.

>that screenshot
playing vs 0% win rate players doesn't count my friend

>>121345618
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqOhssDZ00Y

Pilot was an actual shitter IIRC

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This period of the year my cunt celebrates armed forces day.
In my city that means 3 days of static exhibition, with all sort of gadgets at each stand.

I was thinking of going, but now my depression is biting back at me.
Convince me to go pls ;_;

>>121345835
he must have had an emergency to land with that much speed

>payload still there

....

>>121345763
>0% winrate shitters
k lol

>>121319074
Do you have a modern smartphone (Android)?
Are you okay with just rotation?

Strap phone on head, Install Opentrack, install Freepie from apk in directory.

Enjoy a pretty good, if not a bit hevy, Gyro tracker.

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Good night slavas who are awake at this hour

>>121346092
quit being a faggot

>>121324514
SovKor would get too strong ;)

>>121336927
Late but i'll give an answer, the difference is the multiplayer, tanks are more expensive and give more points to kill, infantry are more useful. Assault Squad has overall smoother gameplay. It was essentially shitting on the tank focus the first game had. Artillery also fires in barrages too so that's good.

How active is AS2 nowadays?

>>121349884
it's fairly easy getting n AS2 game at most times of the day.

You can even kick shitters to get a non laggy one most of the time.

>>121349884
Pretty active. Even has a fairly lively community ladder that does tournaments every now and then. Pubbing wise, I rarely ever take longer than 5 minutes to get a match going, though obviously the higher in player count you go, the longer it will take and the more unstable/clusterfuck your match will be. Keep it around the sweet spot of 1v1 or 2v2 and you'll be good. Anything 3v3 and above really detracts from the gameplay IMO, but that's true for all RTS games.

There's a fairly good amount of /wgg/ players into MoW as well, at varying skill levels from shitter to try-hard.

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>>121345835
>>121346192
>payload still there

>>121353017
Shitter here, I've never played it online because of the fear of being so bad that I refuse to play it online again.

>>121346610
You played about as well as 0% winrate shitters

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>>121297124

I'm having trouble unbinding the joystick hat, I wanted to bind the Targeting cursor to it but it still has camera controls mapped to it. So everytime I go to lock up a target It starts moving the pov camera around in every direction. Halp!

>>121354876
You don't lose much if you lose, i'd stay away from combat if you're playing by yourself though.

>>121200384
I wish I my Joystick still worked. Gotta use my keyboard.
>We recommend that you familiarize yourself with the Avionic displays of the original SU25 before proceeding with the Tango version.
Great, can't afford that either.

>>121258267
Agreed with >>121262328. you'll definitely want some MANPADs. Also, get some Heli Infantry. Get a Command Squad with a Heli as it's vehicle as well. Drop the Vildkat (might be better actually, don't have stats handy). Do what the other guy said as well.

>>121270729
I thought this was posted on /r/warthunder for a second.

>>121273448
Su25T Grach (Frogfoot)

>>121354876
Don't be such a shitter that you'll quit just because you lose.

If you're a ww2 buff you should know most of the capabilities of things by heart. If my girlfriend new to video games can play online mow2 without flipping her shit, then so can you comrade.

If you have trouble finding people to play with, you can just add people from RaReaGa to your friends.

>>121358409
The fuck is RaReaGa?

>>121357372
>I wish I my Joystick still worked. Gotta use my keyboard.
Shit, can't you just save up for a cheap stick? The 16000m and the Hotas X are both under £40.

>Great, can't afford that either.
You really don't need to follow that advice, flying the Grach really isn't that hard.

>>121359773
Cool, I'll look out for those.

>>121358937
/wgg/ Men of war Steamgroup, it's in the OP.

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>Stopped playing around the scandi patch.
>Watch some replays to see where have the meta evolved.
>It´s like the bad aspects of the beta and alb combined with cheap guns atgms elite inf and mixed decks.
What the hell happened? I thought there were no gameplay changes since the scandi patch. Aren´t atgms supposed to be shit now?

>>121361652
they are, other than the recon tow-2 Bradley and eryx

>>121346092
tell your depression to fuck off.
>interesting side note, i go visit a lot of different commuties for my different interests and since last week i have heard people from all over the world complaining about depression, even 2 of my irl friends have been skipping work to sleep all day

>>121356050
i dont think anyone has a 0% winrate

>>121361652
There were only minor changes but yeah, ATGMS are still shit aside from really high-end ones.

>still no wargame with amazing campaign or soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95gV1rKQ8TQ

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>You'll cowards don't even go fast

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>>121364804
FULL AFTERBURNER NIGGAAAAAAA

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>>121364937
>when you exceed your plane's maximum Mach number

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>>121366157
>When the woman starts yelling maximum speed

>>121363282
well, after thinking about it, i didnt win a game til the 4th game i played in the beta. so i did have a 0%

>>121368892
Overall I have a 40 something win rate but I haven't won a game since the map update

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>>121369026
>>121368892
>tfw almost 60% winrate

>tfw nothing to do in DCS
>no documentation for BMS

what do

Multiplayer plane deathmatch is boring