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Dead people: >>120953275
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Ohayou gozaimasu, /rlg/!!!!!!!!

Let's all have fun today!
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He was a good mummy he dindu nuffin.
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>>121144517
tryin ta get his afterlife back on track
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>>121144517
>another wand of lightning
what's with monsters with lightning and trying to kill our beloved pharaoh
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>>121144762
Do metal walls make lightning more powerful, or was that crystal walls?
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>>121144876
metal actually absorbs and doesn't reflect lightning.

Anyway he didn't die of that, the minotaur had a +6 short sword of holy wrath. 90 damage, dead.
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>>121145021
errybody gettin assgutter'd
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>In blade:2 as a SpEn of dith having a hell of a time cause not only is blade in the wrong spot but it's full of elves
>1 tile away from stabbing a quick blade when the deep elf knight wakes up and shouts ruining everything ever
>Backpeddeling out of there as fast as I can as spaghetti, sputterflies, and mana vipers spew from my pockets
>tfw can't keep up enough sputterflies as the faster than me quick blade runs me down
>Barely escape without getting abyss'd
Well that went better than expected. Time to do the lair branches I guess.

Has dith been nerfed in trunk/0.17? Dude is diesel as hell in stable.

>>121143380
Some guy was going all fall of Nuremor on their asses
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>>121146295
>blade:2
Look at this guy playing ancient versions
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>>121146545
>In 200 years there'll still be some guy xXxmlg420proxXx scry sniping Antaeus with Singularity long after the last balancecrime was removed from crawl.
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>Tabbing through spider
>Go to hit a red wasp
>Lazilly thinking about how unbelieveably bad of an idea that is, them having paralysis and all
>Tabbing along
>Paralyzed
>Ded with two +stealth items and thin skeleton on a stabber run
I don't know what I expected but it looks like i'm back to having to take frequent breaks. This was my time to shine and I killed it dead,
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What dictates spell accuracy in DCSS? I seem to miss an awful lot, and I can't figure out how to improve.
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>>121148647
Mo' spellpower.
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Don't go to Mount Doom without fire immunity, let me tell you hwat
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>>121150391
>2k HP
IS THIS TOME?
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>>121151182
Nah man, Furyband. You can't do crazy shit like this in ToME.
Although I'm planning to play ToME after I've had my Furyfill.
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>>121151253
>You can't do crazy shit like this in ToME


Someone needs to do a jack-ass prebalance crime tome4 run.
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>>121151579
The only thing I want to see in ToME4 is someone completing the game with that turtle race add-on. That's about it.
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>>121147148
what is the reason for removing it
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>>121151725
How much dickcheese I'm allowed to use?
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>>121151725
>turtle
>bad
...what?
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>>121152508
As much as necessary, senpai
>>121152543
I never said it's ban, onan-kun
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>>121152508
As much as you can lick from under my foreskin.
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>>121150391
Beware of the sentient boomerangs anon, they are terrible creatures
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>>121152709
Hope you haven't cleaned in years son.
>>121152682
Time to release it.
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Who are the best players on rlg? Are they going to create a team this year and be #1?
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>>121154312
me, to be honest
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>>121154312
I hope there's a team that accepts bad players such as myself.
I would like to participate in a tournament for once.
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>>121154391

Yeah? Post your scoring page.
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>>121154637
okay
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>>121154637
I have no need for validation from a lowlife such as yourself.
I know I'm the best and that's more than enough.
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Well here's top of Mount Doom. Sauron and Oberon are here. Not sure where exactly to perform the dippity-doppity. Will become apparent, I'm sure.
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>>121154602
>I hope there's a team that accepts bad players such as myself.

There probably will be a few teams. It would be nice if we could get the best players from rlg together and create a 10/10 team.
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>>121155038
you act like anyone good at dcss is actually interested in the tourny anymore
why do you think autistic things like MuMo exists
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>>121155038
I think the most you can get is a team full of keks and senpaitachi.
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>>121154312
I'm the best because I enjoy playing the games for the games. Make a cup of coffee. Play for ten to fifteen minutes. Possibly rip or save. Go about my day shitposting on rlg.
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>>121155345
>I enjoy playing the games

everyone look at this nerd and laugh
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Alright guys, I have a +7 trident of freezing randart with +4 str and dex. I also have a demon trident of freezing that is +1. Should I brand the demon to try and get elec or flaming or leave it?
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>>121155789
You'll Holy it when you take TSO into extended. Up to you though. You can hope for elec/piercing but it's not that big of a deal
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>>121155789
Use +7 one
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>>121156698
Since he's going one-handed polearms, that'd be an endgame weapon for him and he can enchant away.
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>>121157125
How do you know that? I mean yeah, when hes gonna do end game stuff, i would offer demon trident and roll with it
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>>121155023
How does furyband endgame compare to pcb? Your character looks ridiculously strong so I'm guessing it's even more summoners summoning summoners.
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Do I actually have any hope of beating DCSS this decade?
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oye boye
It literally takes me fucking AGES to level up now. I'm level 60 and I don't give a shit anymore, I'm going for Sauron and Morgoth.
>>121158341
Yeah it's kind of that, but less than in PCB. Or at least, you are more able to deal with them.
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>>121158480
If i did it twice in a 2 weeks period or something, then yea, you do
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>>121158480
Yes.
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>>121157298
Cause he'd be using a glaive at least otherwise.

>>121158480
If you're getting crawling fatigue, don't play more than 2 hours/1 hour at a time. This'll cut back on tabbitis.
If you're doing stupid shit in a pinch you just have to get yourself used to the reality of that it's a turn based game fuckstick, take your time and look it all over
Be cautious. Especially when you find good drops. Overconfidence kills.

Post screenshots with a pastebin of your character dump if you need more advice.
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>>121158549
why didn't you wear it
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>>121158759
BECAUSE IT DRAINS HEALTH MANA AND EXP AT ONCE. It's powerful, but fuck that.
Also I hear it causes some serious fuck you events to happen around the world.
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>>121158734
What if he didnt find a glaive??

Also yeah, what he said, post ss and pastebin dumps of your char, ask for help.. Its not emberassing or anything
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>>121158759
>>121158832
you can't win the game if you put it on
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>>121158962
I think you can
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>>121158962
Not even a take over the world like ADoM's chaos god endings? Lame.
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>>121158861
>not finding a glaive
He has a demon trident. He has to have donkey punched enough niggers for a glaive to fall out.
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>>121159025
I might be thinking of the earlier TOME versions.
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My lightsabers carry ancient morgothian curses, every fucking some number of steps shit gets summoned around me, I get teleported around, my exp is getting sucked, and my shit is getting cursed.
I am mad, Morgoth. I'm coming.
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>>121159671
>There'll never be enough AFC gear to justify being a a fully cursed madman
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>>121159671
>suddenly the dungeon starts fucking ripping itself apart as I'm going for the stairs
>pop detect to see what the fuck is happening
>a literal horde of unmakers spawned
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And we are the winrar.
There's still stuff to do, like hitting 75 and void-diving for that ultimate combat frustration.
Guess you'd call it PCB's Olympus. There's also a hell thing that's supposed to be insanely tough.
We'll see.
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>>121161941
Bonus content, drops.
Grond is a berserker's wet dream, and it's sentient. Just brutal. Note it weighs 100 lbs.
The crown, well. 125 would be impressive if the max wasn't 40. Or is it?
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>>121161941
>Morgoth defeated by a Jedi
That's not canon at all. Congratulations anon
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>>121161941
>>121162867
Congratulations! By the way, where is his spellbook of Hand of Doom?
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>>121163084
He left it on the nightstand.
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So it's been a few months
Did elona hype die off completely?
The pasta looks pretty outdated
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>>121163746
Not entirely. Someone beat it on inferno mode in the last thread.
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>furyband naga
>"Nagas are swift moving monsters" says the help
>start with a -3 dex and -2 speed penalty
>nothing is mentioned about the fact that they apparently have two heads
Pretty weird.
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>>121163746
No. I just don't post pics much. It gets kind of generic after a while. running into a stream of [upgrade].

Yeah and unless people like you update it, it'll stay that way. Most of us who can, don't need it anymore.

Are you ever gonna fix your potential?
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I've read in DCSS you best manually train your skills one at a time, starting with your weapons skill

at what point do you switch training to other skills?
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>>121166304
"It depends". Generally when you feel like your offense is lacking. If you have a strong melee dude, you can just turn on manual and train Fighting, Weapon skill and Armour or Dodging.
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>>121166395
http://pastebin.com/4gi5hrVw

can some anon give me some pointers as to what am I doing badly/should be doing?
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>>121166972
Well, you're doing an unarmed Spriggan. Probably not what I'd recommend to a new player.

Hm, put more in Dodging and Fighting? 10ish UC is probably good enough for now.
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>>121166972
>spriggan monk
DUDE, thats some hardcore shit.. Its bad, dont do it, take troll or gargoyle or something for a bit easier time
Drop the stuff you wont use, like thoose 3 robes +0 and +1 robe
Drop the -3 ring of slaying and ring of loudness and gourmand too, since spriggans dont affect from it
As for the skills, get unarmed to 10 and then train fighting, you need that hp badly as spriggan, especially now since youre a monk, after that train dodging and dont bother with stealth that much early on or at all honestly, not rly worth it
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I've been having this pet Shadow Imp following me around from Lair:1 to Lair:4 so that he can animate all the corpses and give me free XP and piety with TSO, but I haven't gotten a single star of piety out of TSO since the top of Lair. Am I missing something? Did they devs anticipate this and put something in to prevent me from getting free piety? What gives? Version 0.15
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>>121167631
If you get "TSO accepts your kill" than he accepts your kill. The gap between 4 and 5 stars is a pretty large one, though.
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>>121166304
Depends. In general, for weapon skills every 2 skill reduced your attack delay by 0.1 aut. Some like to rush to min delay, some like having it at at least 1.0 aut attack speed then get fighting for health/cheap accuracy, defenses, or utility. For casters it's a balance of the combined spell schools make spell power, spellcasting your max MP, slots, hunger. Generally Need to get your ability to kill online. Then be able to pass your can I kill hydra/death yaks offense check. Need at least >20 EV or comparable AC for light defense. Better if you'll be getting hit a lot. After that, your goal is to keep your ability to kill the upcoming enemies ahead of the time it takes to train your skill to it.Then put the leftovers in defenses and only a little utility. Don't overdo utility. The more you spend on it, the more you have to use it to live. It's something you get a feel for once you start recognizing what is hard when. Just focus mostly on offense, get defense/fighting when you're killing exceptionally well and you'll take it home or learn how to get further from that splat.
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>>121167782
>Some like to rush to min delay
That's usually a pretty bad idea.
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>>121167782
>rush min delay
That aint that smart you know?
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I'm making a roguelike (shitty one), it has a focus on murdering crap, butchering it to make magical items.


Should I add food clock?
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>>121167892
>>121167984
I remember when every kid on the block was jibbering about how they'd get some 14 odd skill so they have their min delay butt plugs.War has changed
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>>121168152
We were dumb. We got better. Well, somewhat.
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>>121168118
If you're gonna add it in a way that matters, yes. If you aren't no. Brogue is a good example.
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>>121168332
Mostly the idea is that the monsters also eat, as such they will eventually kill each other, smarter ones will also attempt to make items after eating.
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>>121167198
>>121167435
>>121167782
aight, once I get UC to 10 I'll switch to fighting

do items in your inventory encumber you in some way? I didn't know if I'd ever get a chance to make them useful so I kept them on

ironically this is being my most succesful run so far lel, was playing a human monk and octopode monk before
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>>121168735
No, no enc rate or anything, but its pointless having them in your inventory because you wont use them at all
Anything with - something is bad, like that ring of slaying -3 and the amulet of gourmend is useless for spriggans cuz they cant eat meat
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>>121168735
I remember the days when you couldn't carry 28959828592982589 large rocks, 89259 potions, 28958298528959 rations, and so on with zero penalty at all. Those were the days.

If you're new, play Minotaur monk. Good aptitudes in everything you care about. HP, fighting, armor, dodging, UC. Once you have that down you can win Hill orc then draconian to wean yourself off the minotaur high.
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how do I prevent my character from picking up stuff I don't want? I keep getting potions of blood added to my inventory.

also is a +0 splint mail better than a +0 leather armor of Tucamim {Dex+5, Int+4}?
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Who is the best god in SS and why is it Qazlal?
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>>121169546
>how do I prevent my character from picking up stuff I don't want?
\
>also is a +0 splint mail better than a +0 leather armor of Tucamim {Dex+5, Int+4}?
not if you train dodging

>>121169604
he's pretty shit actually
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>>121169604
Yeah man just perfect for my stabber
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>>121169604
Qazlal is good for Formicid melee dudes
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>>121169817
Just stab enemies with lightning and flame as they run after you
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>>121169604
That's not how you spell Chei
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>>121169717
when I press \ it brings up this. What do I do from here. Also the splint mail is orcish, and I'm an orc, if that makes a difference. I also found an orcish plate mail.
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>>121170021
You select by order what you wanna pick up/dont wanna pick up
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>>121168152
When players had more options are weren't stuck in "Run or tab" you could get min delay and do fun stuff
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>>121170021
Weird, there should be letters next to items. Hm, actually yeah, your version seems to be pretty old. Upgrade?

>>121170157
what are you even talking about
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>>121170106
pressing anything other than - just says 'unknown command'.
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>>121170021
>What do I do from here.
Probably upgrade from version 0.8 to something that has that feature.
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>>121170247
Up down arrows and press -
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>>121170283
Give me victory dancing or give me Connection Failed.
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I am addicted to playing demonspawn wanderers and mutagens, am I doing it wrong?
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>>121170236
but I'm doing so well. I might die though.

>>121170324
- just toggles to items I have not identified yet, it doesn't disable pickups or anything. up down arrows are also useless.
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>>121170236
>what are you even talking about

These new players.
These new players.
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>>121170480
Then i dont know.. Srry ;_;
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>>121170537
I've played since 0.8, first win was in 0.9. First online in 0.11, though I do have one 0.9 online win.
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>>121170442
Doing it right.
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Apparently you can multiple copies of an artefact if you receive one from a princess quest prior to finding the guaranteed one.
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>>121170680
>tfw never gonna get that 4.0.0 win
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>>121169604
>in SS
Straight Shota?
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>>121168994
but I like weird builds
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>>121171734
Do Mummy Monk then
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Should i use +1 morningstar "Ymiulil" (weapon) {crush, rPois} or +0 great mace?
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>>121171734
Learn to crawl then walk then run. Don't start by signing up for the 50 meter dash.
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>>121172121
Use the morning star until you can use the great mace effectively then just keep it on hand for an rPois swap. Unless you're gonna go some 1-h and shield that is.
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what in the fuck
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>>121173913
>Tornado
ez
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Yo dicks
are you gonna Mu some More today
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>browsing /his/
>see pic
>tfw don't know if there'll be a stream tonight or not
Por favor monsenior.
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>>121173913
Welcome to the 27th floor.
Also, because gudplyrs were too swole to control, subsequent ziggs or subsequent zig clears or whatever the conditions were are harder. It should be on the wiki but there's no doubt someone bitching about megaziggs in the tavern if you look.
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>>121162867
>+125 to all stats
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>tfw accidentally misclick and die
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>>121174116
should be are you gonna Mu some Mo'
step it up anon
>>121174170
kek
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>>121174116
>>121174170
>mumomind
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>>121174594
>it's only natural to be interested in dicks.png
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>>121174313
>"accidentally" misclicking in a turn based game
Yeah, those cheetos are really going places, better hurry up.
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does Wild Magic I and the robes of the archmagi not stack? I put on the robes and it says "you feel strangely lacking in power"
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New Demon version is out
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>>121175398
>I put on the robes and it says "you feel strangely lacking in power"
This happens when you don't know any spells (that rely on spellpower, anyway).
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>Want to test out new summoner stuff
>DESu
>Own fault to a centaur within a couple floors
Man I missed this feel
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filename.

Is a +2 orcish hand axe of chopping better than a -3 war axe?
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>>121176196
>DESu
Sempai
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>>121173473
Im a Gr
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>>121176324
it's senpai you baka. baka desu senpai.
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>>121176308
Close? They're both terrible. really didn't find a single other axe from all the orcs?
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>>121176464
>baka desu senpai

that makes no sense. It's Baka senpai, desu.
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>>121176464
>n before p
as a spanish speaker this triggers me
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>>121176645
>>121176464
Senpai wa baka o desu.
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WA
BAKA O DESU
SENPAAAAI
AND PARTY EVERYDAY
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>>121176464
Sandypantsu-chan, why haven't you ascended an Occultist in IA yet?
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New icons tho
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Are Clapham-Lee and West the only lovecraft things in Demon?
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>>121177556
Convince him to pick shit that wont give me eye damage to identify it.
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>quest on barrow downs 8 is for rust monsters
I-I didn't need those items anyway.
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>>121177556
Those look terrible desu.
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>>121177918
>>121177760
Don't play then senpaitachi lmao
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>>121178313
I keep doing stupid shit in IA trying to save my resources for the crunch and I'm clinically hopeless at Sil so I need something else newer to take the edge off while I'm still in the denial/depression phases of grief.
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I love precognition. Feels good to know that 8 artifacts are waiting for me in that vault.
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>>121179191
>You have finished the tunnel.
>Shudde M'ell breathes disenchantment.
>Dump the screen? (Y/N)
Precog didnt warn me about this though.
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>>121181058
But anon, precog also lists uniques.
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>>121174313
>even though there is no time limit you still panic when you end up in a tense situation, press the wrong button and die an unnecessary death that could've easily prevented

Just fuck my shit up, I deserve it.
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>>121181190
Yes, but I dont know what they do, and probing is useless in Fury. Gotta fill that monster memory to know how they can kill me.
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>>121181568
You could rack up some names of the uniques with the precog by going up/down, then use the town service of research monster.
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>>121181058
Detection

Is furyband like poscheng and you're detecting all day erryday?
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>>121181730
But the loot... I can't resist it
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>>121181927
They don't disappear, the uniques will keep appearing until you kill them, so you literally lose nothing by doing this, except a bit of money.
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>>121181567
>Always forget to check your potions and scrolls
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>>121181568
Oh, what does probing do? I never managed to make a rod of it.

Sounds like that unique is the same as in poscheng, though.
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>>121182219
is that sigmund
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>>121175603
Oh, ok, thanks
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>>121182585
It just gives you their max hp. And yeah probably shouldnt have tried taking on a strong unique, but I never met any resistance until that point as a soulknive
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>>121181927
You can just fuck off. there's infinite more floors and the uniques keep showing up until they're dead.
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TSO sucks so much ass outside of extended game
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In Sil, what is the "point" of a Dragon-Horn bow? (+1, 1d9) seems somewhat worse than (+0, 2d5) when you factor in strength bonuses.

Is there some hidden advantage I am not seeing, or is it simply like a "slightly more accurate, moderately less damaging" longbow?
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>>121164207
Interesting

>>121164859
>Are you ever gonna fix your potential?
I don't even know man
I'm currently making a new char to fool around with for a bit in order to remember how this game works without screwing my progress
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>>121185327
WHOAH. FULL STOP. I'LL TYPE IT UP. HELL. NO. NO RESTARTS. 720 DEGREES B-B-BACK THAT ASS RIGHT UP INTO THE OLDIE.
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I love playing a naked angry nymphomaniac that punches things to death
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Is this a joke?
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>>121185543
Yes. Ignore it and find the Minotaur.

>>121185489
>posting this on a sfw board
MODS MODS
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>>121185489
>cropping
>r
>o
>p
>p
>i
>n
>g
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>>121185489
>actually taking the shape of the enemy
May thine bandages remain forever soaked.
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>>121186680
>not liking naked ladies
I thought this was mummy monk, heterosexual male edition.
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>>121185425
fug, fine
I didn't even get past "Alias Selection"
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>>121186785
You're not supposed to BE the naked lady, Ramses.
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>>121185327
>>121186951
First off, you pretty much can't ruins your progress. You can only accumulate skill. stats, etc.While you can have gear destroyed by fire/cold it's easy to get blankets which also cost money. If you ease back into it you wont die and thus can't lose items/be permadead.

E+ in a nutshell:
Do jobs, get dosh, reinvest into 2-3 magic shops to rank 160-210. buy potions of potential and every 6+ potions of potential bless the stack then quaff to fix up your potential. You bless water by dropping it on an altar in the truce grounds or the Palmia altar. If you need more water, use the pot for fusion recipe. You should have your progress in the main quest and what you did lately in your journal. Read that. Barring that, check your gear and the main quest line and you'll find where you left off. Keep chucking +skill/resist gear in storage houses so when you need to craft/do equipment jenga you have pieces to fit. Spreadsheet the values in each slot for each skill/resist with base item.
cont
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>>121188156
I need to get stronker:
The low-effort way is find a dungeon at half or less of your level then start clearing them until you start to feel tension and then you'll re-know where your combat effectiveness was. Dungeon drops/skill increases will eventually improve you.
Invest more in your home shopkeepers/moyer the crooked and buy from them while keeping approximate 1-2 times common "expensive" item purchases worth of gold on hand so you can buy from high ranlk wandering shopkeeps,you can't kill
Gene engineer a rogue wizard you buy from the slave master in derphy into you wife. Sleep at 9 pm +/- 1 hr to get breakfast. Potential bonus rises with wife skill. If you use heavy armor, monster ball/rod of dom a monster from the wiki carpentry page's race/classes that know it cross referenced to the bestiary/E+bestiary. If you use light, gene engineer tailoring. Do the same but with the tailoring page or spam new stock on the slave dealer until you buy a mercenary archer. In mornings you'll get a piece of armor. Quality and pool of base items increases with skill. If you're having trouble keeping your wife's potential up, accept job/dungeon clear rewards on empty, no-furniture/junk item, tiles. Pick up everything but the gold, then when your wife is adjacent swap places with her. She'll pick it up then use it to train her potential. You can also give her gem tablets from the pot for fusion. Use +skill gear! At around 80 pickpocketing their decay on medium-use skills is largely offset by the gold they pickpocket on kill. so you don't have to give them so many job/dungeon rewards of gold.
If you aren't a gunner/two-hand get a kaneda bike, ride it and raise riding into the sky. It acts as a second health bar that shoots while giving you perma-speed. Gene engineer a merc archer into it and raise potentials as mount riding helps your penalties too. You can ride anyway as those but mind the penalties until you get high skill.
cont
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>>121186029
Yeah, the exit was like 20 squared to the right lol
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>>121188328
If you're fine with settling in for the long haul, use +skill gear and get cooking, fishing, gardening, performer, pickpocket up to snuff and get a large stack of tradeables like potions of odina, deeds of storage house, scrolls of oracle. Your goal is to be able to clean out the job boards by being able to do it all.
check with the town informer ea. time you visit for adventurer's in your town. Check their inventory and trade for upgrades. Remember trading trades the whole stack so drop 1 at a time until they no longer offer to trade for that item then pick the 1st dropped one of that item back up so you can afford it again. While uncommon, adventurer's can have very strong gear at reasonable prices. Once you get established, it's not too hard to have 12ish+ blessed potions of cure corruption in 4-d pocket to buy just about anything including fixed artifacts. then you can steal the potion back at night with your +pickpocket gear and 60-80+ pickpocket after buffing with heroism and speed. You can then use the stolen ones for the pael's mom job or curing your own corruption.

Doing more jobs/dungeons quests gets you more gold and fame. More fame gives you better jobs which give more plat and gold. When dungeons reset the average level raises based on highest cleared in the last period. More gold lets you buy more nice things for sale and invest for more, better nice things to buy. Wife breakfast heavily slows potential loss on your non-heavy use stats. Enough that your 2-3 magic shops can keep you in great-superb potential.

So don't restart. All restarting does is yaaay another 6 hours doing safe jobs to buy basic gear, enchant it, get gardening then grind safe jobs to unlock skills then start saving up to invest batches of shops with one round of invest 50 then get your two home magic shops + town magic shop up to 160 then 210. Just slows you down bruh.
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How do I wear this? All I can figure out how to do is set a trap on the ground.

I want that 25 ac.
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Wtf, this is my first time i get this
Is this rare or?
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>>121174116
>>121174170
No fun allowed today I'm afraid.
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>>121189134
It's okay, I otabbed my way to L8 already
fist2strong
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>>121189214
Manifold curses upon your enemies friend.
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>>121188912
>how do I wear a trap
Anon...
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>>121189134
Dicks in the IA vods how many runs are there?
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>>121188156
I'm glad you mentioned spreadsheeting equipment skill/resists
I think I had been going over my equipment last time I was playing, which explains why my ammo slot was empty
I probably got acid on my last piece and was still in the process of getting a replacement

>>121188328
>so you can buy from high ranlk wandering shopkeeps,you can't kill
Wait what
You can actually succeed in doing this?
I always thought they were insanely strong and that doing so practically leads to ded every time

>>121188620
> check with the town informer ea. time you visit for adventurer's in your town.
My god, I forgot to do this even last time I was playing

> More fame gives you better jobs which give more plat and gold.
Somehow I remembered fame, but not how it was used

> When dungeons reset the average level raises based on highest cleared in the last period.
Wow, I don't think I ever knew that

Thanks for the info
I'm surprised how much crap you caused me to remember

Annnnnnnd just re-learned why you don't walk up stairs burdened
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>>121189738
I took a look and it doesn't seem like there's more than one. There were other streamed runs (that ended horribly) but I think back then I had no local recordings.
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>>121190546
Oh that sucks, because the beginning isn't there.
Do you recall what traits did you take in the early parts of the run?
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>>121190854
Not really, but with the current medkit system I found that strong spirit>shock resist>observant>mighty was consistently great value, so I took them on most runs.

Shame about the thing being incomplete though, apparently hitbox already got rid of those clips, if it ever recorded them to begin with.
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>>121191823
Alright, thanks.
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I like to think of this as suicide

Still, getting this far by sheer otabbing is something
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>>121192723
What the fuck are you doing with your screenshots anon?
That looks so horrendous it's probably illegal.
I can't concentrate on anything else that might be contained within the post with screenshots this shit.
I thought the
>/rlg/ in charge of cropping
days were behind us.
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>>121193382
wait, wait
I can fix it
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>>121190169
It depends on a lot of things. If you have a couple swole party memebers you can succeed by virtue of splitting their offensive nukes. If you've been getting piles of magic resist, you can feather, holy shield, then shadow step in and spam ball spells. Once you're in the midgame, with a decent spawn of guards you can still kill them which can easily net you a very nice upgrade that's a bit much cause it was emerald material or something. Once you've had your stat potentials fixed for a bit and your offensive skills begin to mature it begins to become fairly reasonable.

If you're in the mage guild, invest in magic shops/do lots of dungeons and save up 800 or so stock of 4-d pocket and regeneration then go invest in the spellbook writer until you cna reserve it. Then just cast 4-d pocket every couple days when it hits 360/400% potential Once you get some levels into it, it has decent capacity and max item weight. If you're clearing I dunno, like level 60+ dungeons you can just toss junk into it that's either a good base item or valuable material then later drop it in your shop.
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Man, apparently I can't add snoop dog gifs
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>>121193868
Forgot to say, for buff spells if anyone and any spells you have stock in, at least once every 2 weeks go use up potential in an empty storage house training up the spell. If it's a bolt/ball, make sure your pet has control magic and has decent potential in it and you can spam whole manabars without killing it. you'll need to give it resist element and resist magic gear to do good against high ranking arrow spells though. It's more practical to go to a dungeon to spam your non-main spells and debuffs but in a pinch you can shoot up your allies. It gets pretty nice when your buffs start lasting 100, 150, 300+ turns and when you land silence on a boss it sticks for a good while.If you go the magic device+alchemy route for support, if you want to grind up a good deal of support you can pile on cargo and move at spd:10 between your adjacent house and town and every 3 days buy all the buff/debuff/damage potions, scrolls, and rods. you don't have to grind it by any means. Spell potential handles itself and if you keep magic device/alch potential up and just use it as you need it, it'll suffice. but if you want to go the extra mile to be an extra mile ahead and don't mind the tedium it's there.
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I suck at clan names but I'll be a teamcaptain if someone can think of a good one
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>>121192723
>>121185489
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>>121194159
>I suck at clan names but I'll be a teamcaptain if someone can think of a good one

Who are you?
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>>121194159
This is the least interested in a crawl tournament I have ever seen /rlg/, so before captains you probably need people who want to play.
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>>121194691
Your dad.
Now go to your room and we'll play cave explorer later.
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>>121194159
>>121194913

team name:

Yiuf's +27 hammer of reaping {rDeath, !sil, rDrown, antimagic, chaos, spirit shield, rElec, rTorment, running, Noisy, sInv, sustab, clarity, warding, hunger---, rmsl, regen+++, MR++, +fly, +/* tele, +inv, +fog,-cast, +/*rage, *contam, MUT, bears a foul ancient morgothian curse,permanently cursed}
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>>121195404
Or rather, +27 hammer of Yiuf's Revenge {rDeath, !sil, rDrown, reaping, antimagic, chaos, spirit shield, rElec, rTorment, running, Noisy, sInv, sustab, clarity, warding, hunger---, rmsl, regen+++, MR++, +fly, +/* tele, +inv, +fog,-cast, +/*rage, *contam, MUT, bears a foul ancient morgothian curse,permanently cursed}
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>>121195404
>>121195579
Go to bed, kid
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>>121194691
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/wizzzargh.html

Our clan name back in .13 was RemoveKeyTab and my naming ideas haven't improved at all since then

>>121194807
someone expressed interest within this very thread you filthy thread skimmer

>>121195404
>>121195579
>Clan names must contain only alphanumeric characters, underscores, and hyphens.
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>>121195825
I'll have you know I am a very proficient NEET that never skips a single /rlg/ post. You still need more people than one and a guy promising multiple teams.
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>>121176741
Watashi to bangohan o tabemasen ka? ;)
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Do resistances in furyband work like vanilla (only stacking is one from equipment and one from potions/spells) or poscheng (everything stacks)?
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>>121144269
I swear I'm going to finally win this tournament
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>>121196317
>You still need more people than one and a guy promising multiple teams.

Six players is a maximum, not a minimum
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Is it worth the inventory space to keep all 3 types of arrows, and (if not) which arrows I should get rid of (to save inventory space)?

I feel piercing are the best type.
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>>121196813
Prety sure it stacks, if you self knowledge you can see different levels like normal you're resistant to cold or extremely resistant to cold
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MuMo when?
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cata dda experimentals, havent played in a few years

static spawn yes/no
wander spawns yes/no
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>>121145021
lmao why did he try to fight it? fucking dumbass
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How is this a roguelike? I'm 80% certain the only way you can lose is if you quit because the game is stupidly tedious.
Also, the best way to gain XP is to not fight, so that counts against it too I guess.
Link to the roguebasin page: http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=The_Wastes
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>>121200095
Yes
Yes
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>>121200236
This looks like a retarded little brother of SanctuaryRPG
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>>121200174
He didn't try to fight it. He was going to tank a hit for whatever reason and it fucking destroyed him. That particular minotaur has an enchanted large shield, maxwell's coffin, a lightning wand, tomahawks of dispersal AND a ridiculously highly enchanted short sword of holy wrath. He knew that the damage would be a lot, but he wasn't expecting 80+ damage.
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>>121200174
He didn't attack it once.
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>>121200095
Static yes. dynamic is largely unsupported and buggy as heck
wander spawns yes. Without it it's too easy to hang our in your cleared area by the woods living on funnel water and wild veggie/buckwheat crops for literal years until you emerge a car driving repeating crossbow shooting monster. Hordes provide much needed challenge in the form of rewarding defensive, offensive, or mobile thinking and situational awareness.It's a much more immersive than without it. You'll hate it when you're new but it's kind of hard to live without once you learn to play.

static NPC's yes - more quests and quest content if you get a good one incl the refugee center mission. Dynamic NPC's yes. You can tell them to use shit, to not steal and bash everything. You can use meds and shit on them. You can even order them to guard a location such as inside the house your fortified to act as a fallback if your pits+fighting cna't clear the horde. They're far from perfect but give 2 or 3 niggers some nail bats and you can straight up rupture assholes. Remember you can activate a hoe to churn shallow mounds to do pits in half the time as well as helping create escape routes while you're establishing your "safe"house

You can also create wood frames out of 2x4's and nails. You can give them storage/folding seats/cloth roofs with sheets. You can craft and nail on crude wood wheels. Also make cheap storage carts if you don't have a basement to secure your precious valuables.Hand rims are craftable ghetto foot pedals if you have a light metalworks setup.
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Am I dense or is Nethack obtuse? How do I even see which of my weapons does more damage?
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>>121201016
Spoilers/observing that I generally kill x faster with y as z
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>>121201016
>Am I dense or is Nethack obtuse?
Depends on the situation.
>How do I even see which of my weapons does more damage?
You don't. NetHack was made by DnD nerds for DnD nerds, and they all knew the damage numbers of the weapons. Some variants include the damage numbers. If you're playing vanilla, check the wiki. For most things common sense is enough.
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>>121200968
dynamic = wander spawn silly anon
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>>121139812
Hey anon, if you're still wondering, the easiest path is through Dungeon-Catacombs-Lab-Drowned City-Dragon's Lair-Chapel. There are lots of secret doors which WILL block off the level.
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In Elona, how exactly should I be keeping my potentials up? Is it really just constantly spending platinum to train skills?
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>>121200236
it's shit.
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>>121201842
nah wander spawns is hordes, it's a different thing. dynamic spawns are when static spawn is set to false in the options
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>>121139812
>>121202578
The other route is a lot harder, but i recommend trying it once you've got the hang of things.

Remember that bumping into walls checks them for secret doors.
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OH GEE, I WONDER WHO THIS COULD BE
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>>121203804
>he hasn't updated
lmao
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This is pretty intense, but I know that he has the same limits as I do.
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And he's down.
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>>121206065
>>121204648
>>121203804
those tiles are fucking disgusting. Isn't there an ascii setting?
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>>121195825
I'd like to join.
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/ayayaya.html
I was on one of /rlg/ teams (dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/clans/sar.html) for .16, for what it's worth.
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>>121206065
Is fighting other guys with relics basically a pokemon battle?
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>>121175442
cool
can't handle more demon though because it's burnt me out on all the bullshit deaths and how long it takes to autoexplore
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>>121197960
I'd keep piercing and +3.
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>>121177556
Yea the new icons are ass desu. He only added them because one of his early players wanted to make some new icons so he probably felt obligated to do so
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>>121207445
Yes. You CAN gun straight for the summoner but doing that is a bad idea without weakening all of their summons first.
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>>121208625
They seem similar enough to me because I can't make out much of anything with either set aside from the zoom-in negotiation screen.
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>>121177747
>Clapham-Lee
wut
There's one of those giant tentacle things later on with one eyeball or whatever, I forget their name. Looked it up just now and google says Shoggoth, and that sounds about right.
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>>121188932
Not that rare. They did lower the chances of it appearing sometime after it was introduced. If you started playing recently then you weren't around when it appeared every third game.
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>>121208832
this one has more of a fat and cute art to the players atleast
I'll probably stick to the old art though since in my opinion it was more SMTish and I'm roleplaying this game as Demi Fiend anyway
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>>121208853
Headless is Major Clapham-Lee.
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>>121206607
Sup my nigga
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>>121208972
oh, cool
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>>121208853
>shoggoth
>one eyeball
"a shapeless congeries of protoplasmic bubbles, faintly self-luminous, and with myriads of temporary eyes forming and un-forming as pustules of greenish light all over the tunnel-filling front that bore down upon us"
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>>121209592
s-sorry, i only remember the in-game icon having one prominent eyeball, there might've been more
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>>121197526
Really? You either have to spend literally all day every day playing and/or be able to shit out nemelex combo wins in only a couple hours. Are you a bad enough dude?
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>>121210189
I know you're memeing but I think he meant get his first win in crawl.
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>>121206607
Okay, I'll add you, though there's still no clan name
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>>121207445
Yes except the trainer fights too. Pretty fun desu
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>>121210685
Sounds cool. Wish there were an ASCII version though.
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Step 1: accepting your death
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>>121211175
>psychic raichus
gg
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>>121211695
I actually escaped by running around the corner while my dodge-master thunder-ward zombie tanked their hits for a while, and now i've killed a pack of normal Raicho so I'm hoping this doompack has split up and I can nab a psychic one later

They know Pink Whisper (charm) and Ego Theft (smite targetted) I really want one
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>>121211175
Is there a way to use the old sprites?

Also, he said he would reduce level sizes, but won't that cause problems for chase captures?
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>>121212367
You could ask Ferretdev on the forums

I also kinda prefer the old sprites, but I like the gameplay regardless of graphics so whatever

I think making better levels is on the to-do list but he can't just shrink them, because then you'd not only have trouble with chase captures, but you'd get double or even triple encounters much more frequently
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>>121212774
The big levels exist as a crappy way to prevent double encounters. He's suppose to be working on fixing the level gen so double encounters don't happen, after which he can safely shrink the levels.

But that doesn't solve the issue of why we have levels in the first place. This game is practically encounter-based.
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>>121212168
>>121211695
FUCK
Over the next few turns I kill my ally, naturally
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>>121213224
lost two allies, managed to recruit the last psychic bastard even when I got charmed again

did not think charm would work on players
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>>121210557
Double Minotaurs
Can't Mu No Mo
The Devil's Team
Morgoth Bein' Silly
Quokka Cola Ltd.
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>>121212949
Even though double and even the fabled triple encounters are fucking bullshit, they still add some excitement to the game desu
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>>121213497
I like Can't Mu No Mo, I'll use that for now

thanks anon
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>>121213665
I don't disagree, but their rarity is part of the excitement

if they were common the game would become ball-crushingly hard pretty fast
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>>121213752
No problem.
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>>121201842
Nah. Dynamic poops out like up to 25 zeds every 20 minutes. 50 with inconspicuous. quality increases as time passes until you get a couple brutes and potentially 1+ hulk every 20 or 50 minutes that you have to drive off from or god forbid you didn't cache some backup vehicles, kill or burn houses running from. Wander spawn poops out a big kroot conga line of like up to 60 zombies over a bunch of map tiles and can be anywhere from tier 2's to brutes and hulks galore. satan guide your boipussy if there's a zombie master in it.
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Edain pride, world wide.
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>>121216031
i dont get this meme
are edains supposed to be shit?
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>>121216031
Damn anon, nice.
What build?
Did you save the dump?
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>>121216031
Fucking nice
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>>121216296
Noldor start with base stats totalling 6, plus 13 stat points. Which usually means they have 3/4/4/3, 3/3/5/3, or 2/4/4/4 at chargen.
Sindar and Dwarves start with 4+13 points.
Edain start with 1+13 points.
Races are difficulty levels in Sil.
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>>121216296
Essentially yes. Base stats boost your skills and do other useful shit like increasing your weapons dice sides. Edain has much fewer base stats than the others.
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>>121216296
In Sil, you play as the elves from the some of houses in the Silmarillion. You know, the crazy hardcore motherfuckers who did all sorts of nonsensical things. An elf even fucked up Morgoth's shit before biting the bucket. If you want though, you can play as an Edain, which are humans. Compared to elves, they're considerably weaker and have much worse stats.
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>>121216031
The day has come
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The Morgoth fight wasn't that bad. The problem was getting there and finding a weapon with sharpness. Anguirel did just fine, but I broke it trying to get the silmarils.

>>121216296
Edain are puny humans.

>>121216297
Dump:
http://pastebin.com/ykfKKTSs
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Note to self: playing roguelikes when tired is a bad idea
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>>121217751
Congrats anon.
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>>121217932
charge your battery bro
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>>121217932
>nethack on a phone
>NETHACK
>ON
>A PHONE
WHY
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>>121217751
>A 17 year old girl slew the Lord of Darkness
Just like my chinese cartoons!
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>>121218570
Morgoth had a weakness for qtgrills.
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>>121219082
Don't forget best bae.
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>>121219082
Imagine how the elves will feel when they find out how that shit went down.
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>>121219646
>Chief messenger between Sauron and Morgoth, she is surely the most
>deadly of her vampire race. At first she is charming to meet, but
>her wings and eyes give away her true form.

thuringwethil confirmed qt
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is poschengband still fotm or have we moved on? back to dcss
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>>121221116
right now it's split between furyband, demon, sil, and mumo challenge
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>>121219646
I'd fuck it
>>121221116
We've gone back in time, now we're playing Furyband, which has been dead for like twenty years or something
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>>121221116
The fotm will be whatever you decide to play and post about instead of being a fucking shitposter.
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>>121221204
>>121221265
>furyband
For once you guys made a good decision
How is the new 3.5 for poscheng though? Anything major?
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>>121221420
Funposting is the blessed grease that protects these threads.
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>>121221568
All I remember is that draconians have demigod-style subraces and powers and crash if you open the character sheet while polymorphed, so don't do that.
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>>121221568
>3.5
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>>121221204
There's quite a lot of actual DCSS too with many new players trying it out, unfortunately.
>>121221568
3.5 was very minor. There is/was a bug with Draconians being polymorphed, also Draconians cant get a power which turns them into a classed Dragon at higher levels.
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>>121221889
how dull
Guess I'll be trying out Sil if I can't get a fun run going in pcb
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what's the latest version of furyband since there's no pasta
5.0/gold?
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>>121222013
>pcb
>fun
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>>121223815
But the loot game is ridiculous.
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>>121221593
>The butt-eel coils around you
>The butt-eel becomes siick
>The butt-eel casts burrow
>Ouch! that really hurt!!!!!!!!!!
>DYWYPI?
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Anyone ever rolled a succesful Zealot of Beogh? This build seems kinda hard to pull off properly depending way too much on the random generator
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>>121224548
>Not having rButt++ by the time you try to get the rune from Swamp Ass
Fault.
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>>121224870
You mean going HO with a Zealot class and then switching when first offered to switch?
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>>121224984
More like rolling a warrior/gladiator at first and then becoming his worshiper asap, the main issue seems to be trying to find decent enough hordes of followers.
Orcs tend to be really shitty later on
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>>121224870
You mean zealot as in you're playing old versions and can roll a HOPr of beogh or you just mean worshipping him? Cause if the second, we've had a bunch and it's not hard at all. You play like a HOGl and you'll win. easily. It's the overconfidence of having a posse and/or the folly of giving a shit to the point that it gets you killed trying to save some junk orc warlord you'll inevitably get more of and lose to torment/bolt spells anyway.
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>>121225175
It should be a fairly simple playthrough, considering you're mostly just an orc melee dude with some invocations.
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>>121225175
You're a strong race with good fighting apts and free passage through early game.
Worshiping Beogh will get you through everything up to Zot where your followers will all die, but you'll get the rune since you should have diesel AC/EV and huge axes by this point. It's literally ideal for 3-5 runes.
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Figured I'd post the dragonform berserk flex image from my run I posted last thread, too.

http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/shamrock/shamrock.txt
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>>121227008
You lose 2 spriggans worth of HP if you get tormented. That is pretty insane.
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>>121227008
Only 700 HP? Psssh, that's smalltime.
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>>121227150
3 felids
that would kill all three of your lives
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>>121227008
Why Dithmenos though?
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Anyone have experience killing Morgoth as an archer? I've tried once before and failed miserably, although this guy is considerably more buff than the last archer I tried with.
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>>121228076
Forum said scum 950 like a fiend then either sneak through the hidden path and slumber+steal him or blast his ass. You can compare to the other archer wins on the ladder
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>>121228262
Yeah my current plan is to pull him up near the top of the level, run round the back path, hide behind a couple of warding glyphs and shoot him till he dies.
I just realised a character dump would probably be useful.
http://pastebin.com/aT6BeQC1
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>>121227008
>694
My all-time high was 735 on ascent, but 694 isn't bad.
I think I skipped out on tomb that run because I forgot about the teleporting on Tomb:1 trick.
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>>121228825
You now have to fight this ghost
Wat do
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>>121228997
If you ignore a ghost (go around and down) it doesn't get shuffled back into the ghost pool and won't spawn again, I don't think.
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>>121228471
Pretty sure Morgoth can walk over warding glyphs. You can use them to block off enemies from surrounding you though.
>>121228997
>crawl monster AI
Haste until zerk wears out, kite and kill.
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>>121224880
>player having anything to do with rButt dropping by the time you have to dive Swamp Ass
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>>121227625
I like the ev from the umbra, his a-a is fun and I felt the need to be spooky.

>>121228825
Still had a few levels of fighting to go unfortunately, I forgot dragonform berserk was a thread meme until the last floor of tomb. I had robust 1 and amulet of vitality, too - so it was a pretty good base for it. There was a stack of some 20 mut pots from a wizlab too, maybe I should have chugged them for robust 2-3. I can't handle these meme objectives
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>>121230143
I hope meme gets wordfiltered too.
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>>121229289
ghost zerk is essentially haste, or it does something weird, but it doesn't run out
>>121230143
I had robust 2 and 27 fighting, I think. Maybe I lost robust 2 and only had robust 1? I don't remember, I had Robust 2 at one point during that run, but Vitality is nice. Much more useful on wimpier characters however because the boost is proportionally larger.
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Here goes.
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>>121230228
I need more coffee
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>>121230597
SPEND
YOUR
XP !!!
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>>121230827
But I might need it for something.
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>>121230865
How much song do you have?
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>>121230943
0
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>>121231015
>0 voice
>10 grace
You can get 12 points in song and Song of slaying with that, or 11 points and slaying+sharpness.
This looks like fun. Good luck, anon.
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>>121231202
>voice
Song*
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>Grand Grimoire drops on dungeon floor 5 while you are a full blown melee
Help wat do
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>>121231202
Archer wins continue to elude me.
I could have taken a Sil and left but I wanted to kill him.
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why is mumo a meme and what kind of meme is it
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>>121231539
Lurk moar
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>>121231539
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>>121231431
RIP. You should check out the ladder wins posted on oookz. Probably some archer wins up there.
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>>121231945
thanks anon, has anyone actually beaten the game with a MuMo?
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>>121232289
It is yet unwon and great praise and worship are owed to he who wins it.
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Should i get +2 pair of fencer's gloves {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}? Im using maces btw
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>>121232403
Yes. Pretend they're +2 gloves with +3 EV and +6 Dex. They're probably the best gloves you can have, barring some randart with absurd resistances.
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Ok, how do I deal with a 15-headed hydra?
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>>121234293
Don't they max out at 13 heads?
Don't fight it. Pretty simple.
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>>121234575
They max out at 20.

>>121234293
Depends on your character. Running away is always preferable to fighting it anyway.
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>>121234293
Walk away.
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>>121234293
Become Hercules.
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>>121234781
Are they ever generated with more than 13 though?
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That's a nice artifact for monster-lore classes.
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>smithing
Why did I even consider it?
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>>121208460
>bullshit deaths
lol what
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>>121236651
Smithing builds are pure suffering.
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>>121218205
They were lacking in self loathing enough to give it a go?
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>>121235262
They aren't ever generated with more than 8, except for Lerny.
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>>121238243
They really really are.
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>>121238503
So in this case anon is doubly bad.
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in DCSS I assume there's no macro or command that cycles your 'default' spell, so for example the last spell I casted was Blink, and when I press Z it will prompt me about Blink but by pressing that button it would automatically cycle to the next spell in my spell list

right?
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Does /rlg/ have its own tournament clan?
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>>121240817
if you have a particular spell in mind you could just map Z to decline casting blink and cast that spell instead I think.
>>121241319
Ctrl+f 'clan' >>121195825
Will put it in the OP for the next thread if I'm around.
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>>121241545
I'm mostly thinking about quickly cycling through all available spells rather than individually mapping whatever spells I'm interested in each to one different key
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>66 ac, 25 ev, 17 sh
>crystal spear from anihilator still does well over 30 dmg
What the fuck is this fucking bullshit
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>>121242206
O wait he killed me with iron shot, even fucking better
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>>121236651
>>121238243
Epic.
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>>121230228
The memes'll always be 'ere, lad.
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Anyone here playing URW?
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>>121242206
AC is a dice roll with GDR smoothing it out. Happens. Next time don't fight near dangerous stuff so long.
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>>121247250
I know they are dangerous but holy shit, crystal plate armor and i was Gr.......................
He literally 3shot me, i had ~128 hp
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Which one do I use? I'm tossing up between the demon whip and the eveningstar.

I'm a crawl newb, MiBe, currently in depths 3. pls help me decide
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Is Dungeons of Dredmor /rlg/-approved?
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>>121247504
no
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>>121247417
You know you have a -20% hp apt right? Read up on how AC works some time.

>>121247504
Yes it's a roguelike albeit not all that good. From time to time someone drums up some dredmor while they go kill shit then dies out like 3 weeks later
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>>121247504
It's a bad game but it's a roguelike so yeah
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>>121247643
I know i have -20% apt but i guess i just got rly unlucky with the rolls.. Sadly ;_;
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>>121247250
GDR does nothing against things that are not melee combat.
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>>121247435
Demon whip honestly, ditch the elec one because almost everyone now you encounter has rElec so its useless
If you have some extra wep enchant scrolls, use it on the vamp whip
Are you the MiBe guy from few days ago who was also asking questions and died eventually around depths:1 or something? Or vault, not sure
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>>121247435
oh and also, I have 3 runes for the first time in my life. did vaults/spiders/swamp, just cleared crypts, making my way through depths. What else should I do before Zot? How will I know when I'm ready for zot?
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I am just so damned lucky today.

>>121247435
Need to regen against a living foe?
Eveningstar.
Need to slap the shit out of an electricity vulnerable enemy?
DWhip of electro.
Amazing finds by the way.
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>>121247807
nah, not me. I'm actually MiMo of trog fwiw. And yeah, I've been using the vamp whip for about 1 floor now and it feels solid. doesnt hit as heavy obviously, but feels a bit safer due to speed.
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>>121234293
hit her with your flaming sword until she dies
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...Of who???
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I like the game's sense of humor.
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>>121249165
they removed that in trunk.
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>>121234781
>Be trying MuMo
>Spend 45 minutes just getting to d:10. (still no lair)
>Step on teleport trap
>centaur literally max distance away
>notices immediately.
>Flame enchant on his bow
>The fire burns you terribly!
>kills me in 2 turns

MuMo is 3 hxc 5 me
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>>121249209
>playing versions where they removed fun™
I don't understand. For what purpose.
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>>121249165
>>121249209
I don't get it. What occurred?
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>>121249390
>play MuMo
>find a +6 ring of dex
>pump evasion
>tab responsibly my way to lair
>get to lair 8
>clear orc
>only notable item in shop is a buckler of protection
>12 AC, 26 EV and 9 Sh
>kill hydras and elephants just fine without a problem
>I don't have Relec or RF for snake
>I am not touching shoals
>I can't go to depths
>still no MR+++ for elf and no LCS++
>suddenly fire crab
>no more tele scrolls
>realize I hate this
>fuck this
>fuck you
>tab fire crab
>suicide

I don't know how dicks does it, MuMo is just not fun for me.
I like watching him, though.
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>>121249674
>play Orc Jesus
>Beogh grants you a follower: Orc Judas
Thanks Beogh.

It doesnt matter now, though, I splatted to a bunch of blink frogs in a wide-open area because I was lazy and took a hatch down instead of going back up to the previous floor and finding stairs, so I had no escape. I also did not encounter a single weapon better than my +2 hand axe of chopping, the only 'better' axe was a -3 war axe. Fucking RNG, man.
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>>121250094
>beogh gives you a follower: judas priest
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Why does Furyband not have Necromancers
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>>121250449
>you was the Painkiller all along

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM__lPTWThU
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>>121249842
Yeah I learned that its not really fun for me either. Dicks is a god.
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>>121250867
>find boots of running on D2
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>>121250751
Because it has Jedis
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>>121251150
A necromancer would fuck a jedi up desu
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I mean, you're taking every tactical possibility out of the game
no nets, no wands, no blowgun, no nothing

I would understand a no armor no god no rings of slaying conduct, but removing any kind of tactic that isn't just punching something and positioning yourself for punching better and having to spend a hundred turns going around a pillar to regenerate health because regen is not allowed isn't fun.

It's a very dull challenge.
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>>121251451
>>It's a very dull challenge.
A fitting one for Crawl, then!
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>>121251538
Crawl can be fun. They cut out a lot of original ideas to make it more straightforward, but it still can be fun.

Honestly, I prefer open world roguelikes like PCB or ADoM or Omega or Incursion or IVAN. Dungeon crawlers without an overworld don't really enthusiasm me that much, even though the original rogue was like that and the genre thus is more filled with dungeon crawlers.
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>>121251732
>Crawl can be fun.
It can, I just wanted to make an edgy joke. Don't care for open worlds personally.
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>>121251820
don't do that
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>>121251451
>isn't fun
Different people find different things fun. I couldn't believe dck legitimately had fun with MuMo until the VODs, even now after watching literally all of them I can't really grasp why it's so fun for him, or why watching it is so entertaining.
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I dont why Im doing this. If something high level breathes on me I can probably die instantly
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do I quaff ID and hope for cure or wait for nausea to wear off and hope I don't die.
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In Nethack atleast I would have a chance to survive
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>>121252887
>probably
that's a weird way of saying surely
>>121253268
incursion has it worse.
>the nymph looks at you
>you die
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>>121253671
>Implying I don't whip nymphs into submission
I love that game
It's honestly too goddamn good to be dead ;-;
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>>121252887
I like squishy uniques. There's also Godzilla but Im 100% sure he can breathe so not touching him
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first ever ascension. I don't feel satisfied. I just feel empty. When does this game start feeling good
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>>121253671
Incursion nymphs will only use their death gaze when deathly threatened and are chaotic good.
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>>121253996
You're playing a MiBe. You're otabbing without thinking and that is not rewarding. It's braindead.

Ascend and go play .14 with a different combo and without trog.
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>>121253996
Speaking of which we should really edit the what-to-play pasta. I'm not sure what would be satisfactory though. Just give an example of different kinds of RLs and the best entry points of those?
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I kind of want one of these rings but they're all mediocre.
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>>121254103
MiMo*
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>>121253996
Those wall tiles are absolutely hideous.
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>>121254173
grab clarity.

>>121254224
>Mo
>not using fist

You disgust me.
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>>121253996
When you learn to let go and savor the ride, not the destination. tl;dr, never. Nothing is or will ever be. Life is pointless, full of suffering disappointment and pain then you die. The End.
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>>121254428
I really like finding exploits in games considered hard more than winning them.

Also bragging on /rlg/.
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>>121254428
/rlg/ - Roguelikes and Depression
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>>121254428
Being a depressing faggot never solved anything.
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>>121254428
babby's first nihilism, putting that philosophy 101 course to good use.
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>>121254725
>>121254529
Eventually you realize saying that life is pointless and suffering is a useless thing to say and see things positively, but he's not there yet.
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>>121254428
>he doesn't understand roguelikes as a celebration of life and human ingenuity
>he doesn't see the levelling process as an allegory of the challenges to overcome in the path to true adulthood

ONE DAY
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>>121253801
>SoulKnive
Is that some kind of edgelord assassin class?
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Hey guys, just got a win as a HaHu of Torg, thanks to whoever it was that recommended it, it was a blast. 4 rune because I got confused, hit Q instead of w, and threw my greatsling of Velocity +9 in the slime pits... I decided to cut my losses at that point. MFW. (I couldn't find the Quantum Leap one.)

Doing a Draconian Transmuter, what's a good god? I've played this and Merfolk, I love the build but I haven't won with it. I just found a ring of Wizardry on D4, and I'm feeling lucky.
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>>121255717
Dr are strong so if you want to keep your focus on Tm and have fun early forms I'd go Sif, however Oka is a safer and more boring option.
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>>121255471
Most likely it's this.
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Soulknife
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>>121255832

With Their meh skills Sif seemed like suicide for a Drac, but the ring of wizardry changes that... Alright, sold! I think I passed a shrine of sif earlier, anyway, pre-temple gods are always satisfying.

How far should I raise unarmed before I start pumping up the jams?

Just getting out of the tab habit... still tab a lot, but just survived a close call to a stubborn worker ant thanks to a pot of agility. Roguelikes are great if you have a bad habit if hoarding potions in games, you'll get cured of that real quick.
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>>121255895
Reminds me of Psylocke
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>>121255832
>>121256298
Sif is an awful choice for a Transmuter.
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>>121256680
Okay after that Jedi win I think I'm going to not suicide him yet because there's no point, but I'm gonna give him a rest for a little while because leveling above 60 is hell on middleearth.
I really wanna succeed as a possessor now, there's some crazy body capabilities in Fury that I want to exploit. We'll see how it goes.
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>>121256680
I disagree, DrTm is one of the better Tms and strong enough to get all sorts of shit done, Sif only offers the option of going further down the Tm road instead of becoming a generic meleedude with blade hands instead of a sword.
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[Urge to follow-through intensifies]
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>>121256680
I usually go with Oku, it seems like the logical choice but I haven't won yet, so I'll give this a whirl. Slow things down a bit. Besides, ring of wizardry.

What do you use?
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>>121257138
IMO suitable gods are Oka, Makh, Fedhas, maybe Yred, Ely, Nemelex. Some people swear by Chei but I don't like Chei. Oh, and Ru is probably really good, too. I'm probably forgetting something,
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>>121256818
You don't get to say 'lol i disagree' and suggest the worst god you offline moron.
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>>121257443
Chill, man, he didn't suggest Chei.
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>>121257443
>suggest the worst god
I suggested Oka acknowledging him as the all-round best option, but brought up Sif as the one that is also strong and retains the theme. If you look carefully you'll see I at no point suggested your favorite god.
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>>121257747
>spoiler
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Guys, what if MuMo in .14
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No wonder There were so many altars around the place, temple was corrupted! I would be annoyed if I had a weapon to bless. I'm now a red draconian... was hoping for purple or white honestly, but I'm looking forward to punching people with conjure flame and sticky flame burning them, and using that poison to fire spell in snake/spider is completely amazing.

How is Oleg's toxic radiance? I found a spellbook. (and a bookshop, thank RNGsus, but I can't afford anything yet.)
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The more I play Furyband the more I want to go back to PCB
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>>121258886
Do that then, m8
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>>121258819
White is pretty much the worst color for DrTm since it gives your dragon form fire vulnerability and you can't dragon punch orbs of fire (unless you have ridiculous rF++ randarts). Red is good. Dunno about Olgreb's, never really used it. I wouldn't recommend hybridizing in offensive magic too much tough. You're a melee guy who sometimes casts, not a caster who sometimes punches.
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>>121258886
Fury is not as well mantained as PCB. But PCB has the worst fucking ending ever and the most annoying monsters.
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>>121259071
No doubt a faggot as colossal as you can't see any value in fun or distinct runs, but I feel I should mention being a greaterestplayer with cherry on top wouldn't excuse acting like this much of a cunt.
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/dck.html
Don't bother posting yours.
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And the DrTm of Sif is dead... I ran into a gnoll pack and a centaur, popped smoke, ran upstairs and the centaur moved into view and shot me on the way up. I guess sometimes just chugging a healing potion and soldering through is the way to go. Besides, I left grinder up there.
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>>121259421
Don't they share most monsters? I mean, that jedi win encountered the serpent of chaos.

And, yeah, pcb's UI is better than furyband's.
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Good old Beneficial Mutation potions.
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>>121259421
>Fury is not as well mantained as PCB
no shit, it hasn't been updated in two years and it's dead. Even incursion is more updated.

>>121259737
>Don't they share most monsters?
They do, yes. But the serpent in fury is a lot less threatening and fury has got over the top weapons and items that can go beyond a rune knight's wildest dreams.
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>>121259071
>>121259602
BTFO
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>>121259838
>helmet of RF
Volcano?

Always remember there's a 5%
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>>121259737
The Serpent is made boss in PCB so it's way more powerful there than in Fury.
They do share a lot of mobs, true, but in different ways. The only thing I wish Fury had from PCB is some of the PCB's dungeon generation. That's about it.
The thing PCB does is trying to more or less balance the classes, while Fury outright states that 'some are more powerful than others'.
And that's fine, that's why I'm playing it in the first place. I had a shitload of characters in PCB, that babble trabble titan, the lich, sanic the dragon, and everytime I hit endgame I just wanted to slit my wrists.
And in Fury I somehow stuck it through with the Jedi, because it's criminally fun to play it and shit.
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>>121252887
Why doesn't Gerard, a prince of Amber, lay his death curse on you even though you killed him?
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>>121259071
Blown so hard he deleted the comment
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>>121260548
I wish someone from /rlg/ would blow me hard too.
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>>121260127
>The thing PCB does is trying to more or less balance the classes, while Fury outright states that 'some are more powerful than others'.
That's bad design, though. What if you could play a minotaur that was also good at magic and had extra HP and MP?

Nobody would play anything else.
PCB does a good job at balancing stuff, it's just that endgame sucks balls.
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>The only thing I wish Fury had from PCB is some of the PCB's dungeon generation.
Yes, I could live without these swamp-ish levels that land of rhun has.

Though always small levels seems to work more places in fury (this is probably a bad thing but I don't like angband-huge levels at all).
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>>121260663
>tfw no cuteboy from /rlg/ to blow you hard and then get comfy afterwards and play your favourite roguelike
How romantic would that be ;_;
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>>121259421
What's wrong with the ending
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>>121202648
That or investing in magic shops till they have enough potions of potential then blessing them all then guzzling them down for a decent amount
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>>121260874
Summoners summoning summoners summoning summoners summoning charge drainers summoning disenchanters summoning summoners summoning sauron, the unicorn of order and morgoth.
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>>121260717
But anon, Sil has the 'this race is stronger than this one' and nobody complains. It's OK if a dragon is stronger than a dwarf or something.
>>121260753
I'm planning to try including joke monsters too in one playthrough, along with always small levels (which could be really good for strong casterdudes with clouds of shit)
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>>121261059
>But anon, Sil has the 'this race is stronger than this one'
Sil also doesn't have classes. This reasoning does apply.
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You need to get a team together /rlg/.

I'm sure we have plenty of people here with >15 wins who would make a fantastic team.
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>>121260127
>>121260127
Furyband classes are either Steamroll the game, or suffer through hell
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>>121260663
>>121260860
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>>121260437
Maybe it's different from pcb? Dunno
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There is an age of Animeband coming after a few Fury wins, and you people will yearn for the days of the Jedi.
Then again...
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>>121261591
Or have fun
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>>121261740
>>
>Come back to /rlg/ after a year and a half
>We still playing DCSS
>Theres a MuMo challenge
>tfw MuMo was my thing when I used to play, so much so that I would namepost with the name "A Mummy Monk"

SPREAD THE WORD MY BROTHERS, MAY THE MUMMY MONKS RISE!
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>>121261208
>You need to get a team together /rlg/.
Fuck you, we don't NEED to do jackshit. You just want us to.
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>>121260663
>>121260548
What'd he post? Was it salty?
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>>121262218
Just an outlet of impotent rage.
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>>121262218
After getting blowed, it's only natural that it's salty, right? Except if you ate pineapple or some shit...
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>>121262348
Why are we so gay
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>finally get to another level with a forge
>get gang-raped by like 8 niggers
Smithing truly is suffering beyond belief.
Crown of Laziness is worth its weight in gold though (gold being XP and consumables).
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>>121262218
He posted this.
>>121262945
4chan is for faggots. Welcome.
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>>121262945
why wouldn't we be gay?
bi master race
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Since I vistited the actual Golgata today I vow to reach it in caves of qud with this character, and honorably die in it's depths. or maybe not die to a buggy pile of 1-turn killing white crabs this time
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>>121263180
Because traps aren't gay.
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>>121263410
I actually really like the CoQ tiles. They're probably my favourite roguelike tiles.
It's a shame they're selling an unfinished game though.
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>>121262945
We are not gay. We are a community of people that play games of literally no graphical environment whatsoever. We are people that can fall in love with a wall of text vaguely describing something that we deem to be our ideal partner. I feel like it is normal that, if you are able to go to that extent, being gay is nothing special, no?

Chicks w/ dicks 4 lyf
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>try a possessor
>try to look at my starting powers
>become a 1 hp dude with no attacks
Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to do.

Does your race matter much for this class? I assume you don't spend much time in normal form. This isn't as simple as the pcb ones.
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Playing DCSS as a Beoghite, when should I use the Give Item ability, and should I just hand out whatever artifact weapons I find and don't plan to use, or what?
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>>121261598
So cute but why slap? I just wanna cuddle with someone and stuff ;_;
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>>121264117
You start as any normal race you want, but once you leave that body, you're 1 HP. So you better have a better body. Invest in the skill that drops bodies more often.
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>all this 3dpd gayshit
Disgusting.
My 2d ascii waifus are there for me whenever I need and they love me unconditionally.
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>>121264185

I usually give my orc warlords polearms or strong artifact weapons.
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>>121264348
True that senpai
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>>121264474
EXCUSE ME THIS IS A BLUE BOARD
MOOOOOOOODS
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>>121264474
This is some sick fucking shit I hope you get vanned for this you dirty motherfucker
MODS MODS
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>>121264608
Bonermancer player class when?
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>>121264474
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>>121263423
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Maybe today is the day /rlg/.
I just can't win ToMe 4 even on normal.
Also does the accuracy generic talent affect mindstars since I'm trying them this time around?
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>>121264474
Eww, I hope you die from dehidration by masturbating, sick fuck!
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>>121264728
come to my room and we'll make it
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>>121263643
They are pretty neat, that's for sure. I'll buy the game if they ever finish it, I've played and enjoyed it for some time now. Playing a mental mutant never gets boring, you can do some truly fucky stuff.
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>>121264918
Anon, that's not a turtle.
Come back when you're a turtle.
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>>121264195
Yeah, but if your race only has effects until you first get a corpse, you might as well start as a yeek for the quick levels, right?
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>>121265005
But anon, I don't know how to program. I'm just an idea guy.
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>>121265069
That's absolutely right
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>>121264117
You keep your stats and xp gain, but you lose tje rest of abilities
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>>121265103
it's okay I can show you what to do
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Guys
Hey
How do I play with summoner? I just suck at them, especially when it comes to teleports and rare/unique/anyrank+1!
tome of course
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>>121265036
Please someone help.
I'm so shitty at ToME 4.
I always get one or two shotted by some unique even before Dreadfell.
I've won DCSS like at least 30 times and I just don't know anymore with ToME.
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>>121264918
>I can't even win ToME on normal
senpai please
>playing cursed when he can't even win on normal
senpai
i'm dying
Why the fuck are you trying to use mindstars
Have you even made it to the far east?
>2rampage
>0 strife
>0 slaughter
rip already
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>>121265360
Buy shield based on whatever your highest stat are, concentrate on one skill/skilltree, and _________________________git gud
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>>121265360
Check this guy out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqee9vUSdOE
He does some guides, has some wins udner his belt etc.
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>>121264918
5/1/5 rampage ASAP
5/5/5/5 Combat training
1/5/1/1 cursed
Ignore the first pop up
Go to the tranquil shithole level 20-30, murder everyone
Go 1/1/5/1 on slaughter
1/1/1/5 ASAP on gloom
1/1/1/5 ASAP on hunt
Rest on wherever
Get antimagic, do urkill at level 20 or so (get a bunch of electric resist gear), max fungus sustain.
Do whatever, use biggest weapon you can find and armor.

Shields, onehand and mindstars are shit.
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>>121265242
Hide and let your guys kill.
Grand entrance is good.
Dragon murderfucks all.
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>>121265406
>>121265534
>>121265567
>>121265715
Thanks anons.
Today I'll make it to the far east for the first time, I swear.
Furthest I've gotten is the orc-ambush after Dreadfell where I bursted down the boss orc and died to the popcorn which kills you if you do it in that order.
I trusted the pasta which said you can't actually die at the ambush.
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>>121265534
>>121265360

Don't listen to this Anon, focusing on one skill tree is in general a terrible idea, post your class and race(cornac and yeek a best)

>>121265715
Cursed gear is godly though
Tranquil at 20 will rekt your shit because of the boss there, atleast on Nightmare

>mindstars are shit
leave.
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>>121266019
For all times go surge, for orc ambush run around and hit them with the charge (it can be used as pseudo blink, hits crap, it's great)

>>121266202
He's new. Mindstars require loads of fiddling early, just get the heaviest weapon if it's your first time, much easier.

At late 20 or early 30 (depending on gear) on normal the meadow is easy-ish.
Also
>Yeek
>Good
Ayyyy.
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>>121266202
I dunno, played archmage focusing on arcane, died in vor armory because dragons.
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>>121266387
>Opening vor
>Without knowing what the fuck you're doing 100%
>Ever
Anon...


Also cursed (other than rampage) scales horribly, it's that rampage is just very good.

Also, a protip for cursed: Slaughter should never be bumped higher than 3/3/5/1-3. First 2 stop scaling at 3, third gets more range at level 5 but that's about it.
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>>121266301
Cornac and Yeek being a best is personal opinion because edain pride, and yeek because mind rape a best.

desu I don't mean they're the best power wise, just flavor wise imo
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>>121266664
I just wanted to witness a clear run, so i did not read about shit.
btw, some say that reaver possibly can clean vor, but how the fuck he is supposed to do that with his abysmal defence?
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>>121266745
Yeek are pretty bottom since >lmao HP, cornac are good.
>>121266893
>so i did not read about shit.
IT LITERALLY TELLS YOU IT'S A DUMB IDEA.
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>>121266745
I'm the anon asking for help and took Cornac so that I can put the category point in Rampage to unlock it off the bat since it's an excellent skill in my opinion though I'm absolute shit at the game.
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>>121266996
Cornac>Rampage is the retard proof combo.
Use it to flee, never activate it manually.
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>>121267196
Yeah that's what I've been trying since anti-magic says fuck you to teleports and phase-doors.
Last one got gang-raped by a sand drake and the Sandworm queen though one turn kill too.
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fuck I know that it's its purpose but this word filter is kind of rustling me
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>>121267683
Wear heavy armor and heavy weapons.

Always have an anti-physical infusion and a speed one.
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>>121266959
>tfw you play for fun and don't care
or am i just a dumb autistic fuck
But hey, after boring instakills it was fun to run from them with 7 hp, felt like chessbot on master difficulty.
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>>121267903
Told you the age of Animeband is coming
Told you senpai
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>>121267683
>dying to sandworm queen
how
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>>121267985
Is there a class called Keikaku Master in Animeband?
Or crystal pancake elderly?
It's been a while since I've really watched anime desu.
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>>121267903
It's funny, since all of those words were among the few things I actually had filtered.
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>>121268404
Cosplay is OP and that's all you need to know
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>>121268374
Sand drake hits you for 184 damage.
Something hits you for 204 damage.
Something hits you for 232 damage.
rip
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so how exactly do wander spawns work in cata

is there a set number of hordes that wander randomly and go to noise, or what? how do i play with/around them?
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>>121268404
Manga is far superior desu

everyone should read my balls, it's too under-rated for how good it is

>>121268531
post the char page senpai
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Some of the new stuff added is pretty funky

Shame I'm pretty sure factions don't mean much yet
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Goddamnit why does everyone keep telling me DDFi are easy with Makhleb, I just get rekt every time.
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>>121269961
Is it possible to win CoQ nowadays? Last time I played it wasn't, the end wasn't done or something.
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>>121270508
i think it's still not officially done, but you can turn it on by toggling unfinished content in the options
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>>121270508
The main quest line isn't done, no. After the plant garden quest it's over for now. Unnormal has been seen several times promising more but apparently it's hard and time-consuming to write up some text. I kid - but it has been years since the storyline was last changed unless I'm mistaken.
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>>121270043
You are bad. Once you are better you will realize they were right.
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>>121271451
>>121271859
Paying for games, anons. Paying for games.
Glad I snatched the CoQ key from a random stream.
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>>121271897
But I was told it's easier than MiBe. Am I mismanaging something? Should I use magic or a ranged skill? I can't get past lair.
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how do i furyband
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>>121272518
morgoth keel
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Noooooo!
I got boxed in by 5 guys and a wall.
I don't even know what happened.
100% fault though, absolute shit positioning from the start.
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>>121272143
Probably. If you are playing online I can come spectate you. If not, fight one at a time, use consumables earlier than later, don't fight monsters you think will be a tough fight, pull monsters back towards explored terrain, use your wands against tough threats, train fighting/dodging/armour once you get your weapon delay down a bit.
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>>121272579
>I got boxed in by 5 guys and a wall.
/rlg/ just can't escape the gay.
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>>121272579
why didn't you use a physical infusion then teleport out you fucking Noe Zuiin
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>>121273404
Muh antimagic.
Also I had one physical infusion and used it but had like 10 status effects and panicked and ran off with rampage but because I'm a shit player I didn't think about an optimal route and rampage ran off at a non-optimal time since I'm a shitter.
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>>121273676
How did you get 5 man boxed.
Why don't you have a teleport rune if you still don't have AM
Why are you picking AM before 20 so you can go straight for fungus with a floating generics and a cat?
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>you can't close doors in TOME
That's- one way to fix doordancing I guess.
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Anyone for the rlg team?

You must have >15 wins.
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>>121272518
Pick a Yeek
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>>121273831
Because I don't even know what half of what you just wrote means.
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>ID a staff of earthquakes in a hallway
>entomb myself
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>>121272849
That'd be very helpful. Starting a game here
http://crawl.lantea.net:8080/#watch-septik
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>>121274007
1. You get antimagic because you want to get fungus (increases regen turns, basically if you have a 50 HP in 5 turns (10 per turn, 5 turns duration) it becomes 10 per turn, 10 turns duration). You don't have to get it before that, no need. Use teleport rune until then
2. Urkis appears at level 14, get a bunch of electric resist items, once you're level 20+ with good electric resist items go to the first town, clear it, then go to antimagic land (DO NOT have a magic resource bar such as mana/VIM/Energy positive or negative), go to the valey at the other side of Daikara, kill urkis wearing your electric gear so he doesn't instagibb you (use a physical and magic infusion, he leaves a nasty DoT), you can fuck his sustains with manaclash (leave a value point on that and nothing more, use it at ranged to fuck magic users resources up, if they reach 0 mana/vim they lose sustains, useful vs the master too)
3. Get fungus, unlock it and max the passive ASAP. Use that passive 24/7 and the antimagic shield, bash magic with your 2handed dick
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>>121274464
>use that passive
anon...
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>>121273676
Son your cursed move that teleports you can be used as an escape option, then you could of activated rampage and ran the hell away, what the hell are you doing.

Get good.
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>>121274545
I meant sustain.
But the first passive in antimagic and the second passive (the one that gives you balance) from fungus will and should be used 24/7.
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>>121274464
Thanks anon.

>>121274681
I'm sorry. I'll try gitting gud as best as I can.
It's just that I still can't judge that well what I should run from and what tab and since it's quite boring to do the same dungeons over and over and over again I tend to maximum overtab all the time.
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>>121275342
This isn't DCSS faggit, you don't "run from things" you go at it, and if it heads south you fucking jet, you can run from things if it's really bad oozemancer unique but 90% of the time you don't until it goes south, because there is no reason to.

If you're not shit you can go toe to toe with pretty much anything near your level
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>>121275632
Well I think it's been conclusively proven without a shadow of doubt that I'm shit.
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>>121275839
This is what DCSS does to people ;-;
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WHERE'S THE MUMO

I NEED MY SAND FIX
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This looks unpleasant.
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>>121277836
I need dicks today too.
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>>121278431
looks pretty easy desu two zombies and a wisp will rekt them jiang shis
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why had no one told me roguelikes were this comfy
>>
Not sure if I'm in the right thead - but is there a game similar to HellMOO, but offline? I'm a huge fan of all the mutations and the setting.
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>>121280158
Cataclysm: Dragon Dildos Ahead
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>>121280158
>The mutations
no need to lie senpai
we know what you really like it for
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>>121280158
There's only one true offline grind simulator, and it's SanctuaryRPG.
Stop asking.
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>>121280779
Becoming an alien-like abomination and griefing the newbie areas until the military and other players put me down?
Only the other 90% about that is raping players to death with acid jizz.
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>>121279169
>tfw noone want your dick
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Updating the Sil pasta. If you want something in it, tell me.
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This is the run
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I evolved him from a shitty novice warrior and he does this to ME?

If I use glitter will he come back?

Momma always said I shouldn't stay with that man but ;-;
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Help, I lost my shovel and my wand of digging is out of charge ;_;
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>>121283764
>removes you in disgust

what did you do?
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>>121283030
Tip: If you are behind an open door and the enemies are standing outside it you can close the door and they will move onto the door tile, turning a 2 or 3 on 1 into a 1 on 1.
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This is floor seven of the starter dungeon. This is a pack led by a legendary enemy - made up of literally the last enemies you see in the game. Fullerite? I wonder if I can beguile one of them...
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>>121283954
Why is it my fault
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>>121283954
He dindu nuffin!
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>>121284060
spam freezing hands and hit them, it works on dromad merchants too.
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>>121283764
You might be able to charm him back if you are level 15. Otherwise you need a new ride.
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Wtf is this? Is this new? Ive never seen this
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>>121284793
>level 11
Why are there no good men out there senpai
I got him to where he is, you think he'd still be alive without my magic missiles?
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>>121284914
I'm pretty sure that's old as shit.
I remember getting it in the 80's or something.
Or maybe that was gonorrhea.
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>>121284938
New whip tho
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>>121284728
Yeah, I know. I just got Cryokinesis for my first mut, so I could probably do it even if they one-hit me. Thing is, if I manage to kill them I'll gain ten levels and some of the very best equipment in the game - kind of ruins it. It's like cheesing early power armour from the enclave base in FO2 - a kick, but it kind of ruins the action some.
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>>121285980
>a kick, but it kind of ruins the action some.
It's an unfinished game anyway.
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This is my party.

The malingee has Block Impact, Mob Cover, Throw Rock, Intent, and Malleable.
The ghoul has Swiftness, Mob Cover, and Malleable.
The chindi has Tormentor, Mob Cover, and Malleable.
Headless has Mob Cover and Malleable.
The kasha has Tormentor, Mob Cover, Malleable, and Choking Veil.
The zar has Mob Cover, Malleable, and Swiftness.
The easg saint has cleanse, calm, and tireless.
I haven't given anything to the ogre yet. No real pressure to use him yet.

Any comments on how I'm built? I've got a few potential plans:
-Capturing an ice thing and fusing it with my malingee so my malingee has no weaknesses.
-Capturing Vikhor if there is still a chance for it.
-Capturing a centaur and loading it up with tormentor and throw rock.
-Capturing that skellington guy.
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>>121285361
What does it do?
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>>121287469
It cuts things
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>>121287076
>Any comments on how I'm built?
Yes.
Stop spamming the thread with this shit, nobody cares.
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>>121287469
It has more enchantments on it the more HP you have.
Basically it's great on ogres but ogres are better off with GSCs.
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>>121288110
you care enough to comment lmao
>>121287076
>still having a malignee
why
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>>121288404
What's wrong with having a malingee? I wanted something that's sturdy and resistant to fire.
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>>121288796
>shitty starting block abilities
>weak to ice
>meh in general, can't branch out into anything else other than *okay melee dude who gets hit a lot*
Goblin is better desu
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I bet his ass regret breaking up with me now
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>>121288267
Oh thats pretty cool. Is it current or base hp?
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>>121289605
Current. Zerking with it is pretty fun.
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>>121288948
That's nice and all but there aren't any wisps in my game.
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>>121289671
>current
Ehh.. No fun
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>>121290336
Not even on the 1/2th floor?
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>No MuMo today either
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>The orb spider weaves a glowing orb of energy.
>Your +0 shield of reflection reflects the orb of destruction!
>You blow up the orb spider!
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do wander spawns still ALWAYS find you after some time in DDA?

Cause I fucking had a cabin in the woods, made sure to forage FAR from the place and the horde would always make its way back to my place

is it possible to live on the edge of a horde unnoticed?
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>>121291416
Nope. That floor was just full of ghouls.
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>>121292164
>is it possible to live on the edge of a horde unnoticed?
No, they magically spawn around you.
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>>121231945
What game is this? I've been out of RL games for a while. Last game I used to play a lot was NetHack 3.4 and dabbled with others like ADOM.

What is 'The' game these days, one which is complex but still mature? I fucking hate devteam of Nethack, they will never release a new version.
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>>121295037
Play Demon senpai

Or for a more updated Nethack play Dynahack
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>>121295903
I can't find a "Demon senpai" game anywhere.
Do you have a link?
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>>121295903
Okay, I'll take a look. It's been a while and it looks like the console options in Windows 10 really suck ass, I wish I had linux and proper terminal.

I'm also thinking about Dwarf Fortress...
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>>121296254
Senpai is a filter for f.a.m
http://demon.ferretdev.org/
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>>121296254
>horror roguelike where you have to go through an abandoned Japanese high school and rescue all of your kōhai by making pacts with demons and selling parts of your body, your memories, and your soul
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>>121296650
Like almost everything set in a japanese high school, it works better if you just take out the high school part.
>horror roguelike set in japan wherein you make pacts with demons and sell parts of your body, your memories, and your soul
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>>121297000
but then how are you supposed to be a senpai protecting his kōhai
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>>121296650
>>121297000
The fuck would memories do in a roguelike though
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>>121297107
Selling memories could be selling EXP or skill levels
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>>121297243
You don't get it Anon.

Why wouldn't you just sell all your memories, why save them?
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>>121297335
Because you're not a monster anon I mean seriously.
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>>121297107
traits/bonuses you selected from character selection, spells/abilities, or changing the map.

>>121297335
because senpai needs to treasure the memories he made with his friends above all.
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>>121295037
That's Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup.
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>>121297456
>>121297496
So y'all dumbasses would be some cripple souless fucktard for some memories of niggas you probably didn't even like, and a mom you haven't called in years?

Step it up senpaitachi
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>>121297642
The senpai is Japanese, his friendships drive him to cut through the darkness because they have been folded over 1000 times.

For his nakama, he would be willing to sacrifice everything if it meant he could see them again. Even if he must die over and over and over, he will save them. He must.
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>>121298270
Then why is memory sacrifice an option at all.

Obviously his friends will be other demon lords and he'll have the option to sacrifice his memories for an easier fight, but worse loot
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>>121298437
to trick you into getting the bad ending
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>>121298632
>all power demon lord, slayer of hoes and god himself
>bad ending
do you even NOCTURNE?
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>>121264918
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page 10 bump
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>>121303782
This wouldn't happen if there was a MuMo run :(
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So, do you think I got this /rlg/? I have multiple good wands, and I just mowed tru both shoals and orc mines.
Evolution sure is a fun mutation, that poison spitting, fire breathing, super strong, smart and fast antman sure is something else.
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>>121298437
it's not like you couldn't just sacrifice parts of your memory. Like forget how to swim, or where all items are (randomizing their locations), or what your potions do, or your own name.
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>>121311178
That's all completely inconsequential, people would only sacrifice memories instead of body parts/soul, unless body parts/soul give better shit, in that case why have memory sacrifice at all?
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>>121312096
maybe you only have a few choices at a time depending on RNG spawns, or maybe a lot of the sacrifices are just double-edged swords in-general and you can't take the drawbacks (eg. permanently trade your eyes for the ability to sense things through walls/see invis, but you lose the ability to read).

there's tons of ways you could balance a theoretical roguelike.
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>>121144269
Chris the poschengband developer lives, and posted a chardump named "Teaser" from the unreleased Poschengband 4.0.0

http://angband.oook.cz/screen-show.php?id=3285
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>>121254428
YOU MAY
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>>121316551
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>>121315603
Seems like there are a lot of new rods, wands and staves. Looks like they can have egos in addition to their usual stuff. Did rods always have charges?
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So about the steam version of Caves of Qud, is it actually worth a tenner or am I still better off playing the free version? I liked the old version a bunch but it seems like they've added some stuff to the steam version.
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>>121261156
>Sil also doesn't have classes
it's shit
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>>121317598
>did rods always have charges?
Nope, that's new as with the egos.
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I havent seen a centaur barding while playing a centaur before. It's even enchanted!
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>>121318186
Seems like a really nice change. Perhaps we'll see some artifact evocables as well.
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>>121318476
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>>121318740
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>>121318740
indra scoffs
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>>121300171
tuturu~
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Has anyone tried Dragon Fin Soup? Its free on ps+ and seems to actually be a roguelike, so I'm somewhat interested.
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>>121261059
>>121261156

so in other words, sil is racist?
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>>121320848
It isn't racist if one race is quite literally better at everything than the other.
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Of the starting classes in TOME4, plus the Summoner and Cursed, which is the most ezmodo, and how?
I'm just interested in leveling up and getting powerful quickly, so I can find that hidden what's-it and unlock Brawler, so any advice would be helpful.
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>>121320848
Why would it be?
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>>121319969
>>121300171
>can't play tome without my GPU crashing within two minutes of opening it
Mayushii...
Lads...

I've failed you
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>>121321721
I would say alchemist is the most straightforward. You have literally one attack and a free meatshield.
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>>121321721
I'm a badplayer, and I've won with skellington archer, skellington brawler, and shalore sun paladin.

Of those, skeltal brawler was by far the easiest.
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>>121144269
>>121144269
>>121144269
>>121283030

New Sil pasta:

http://pastebin.com/NRyD5jtt
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>>121323527
Based anon.
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>>121322361
If he only has the staring classes and doesn't have brawler then he won't have sun paladin or skelington.

>>121321721
Alchemist is definitely one of the least complicated to play.

Also make sure you take part in the arena fights in Derth before level 12(?) for the extra generic points.

Unlocking brawler is really easy if you get to 14-16 and go into the hidden compound with some lightning resist. You also NEED at least 150 gold to take part in the slave masters challenge. **Kill the slavers and you'll free slaves who will help you fight as you go down the floors, they'll start attacking you if you AoE them to much with your bombs.**

As a bonus you can also get the Archemage unlocked easy by **talking to the guy near the labyrinth and giving him an arcane powered artifact, you can't do his quest if you get the anti-magic tree from zigur however.**
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Just a bit OOD.
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>>121324834
>If he only has the staring classes and doesn't have brawler then he won't have sun paladin or skelington.
I completely misread his post. It's late, and I'm sick, and I'm sad because I can't play tome.
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>>121325072
Are you talking about the graphical or the console version not working? I can't imagine why the console version would shit out for you if that's the case.
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>>121325598
Graphical. I've had dorf fort crash my gpu too, though, so I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith in console either.

Both the GPU and the motherboard are kind of fucked, and it's gotten worse over time.
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>>121325598
Does TOME even have a console version?
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>>121256298
10 UC usually, then straight up to blade hands, then hope you find a book to diversify your spell skill portfolio or she's never going to start giving you stuff.
Don't forget to get defenses somewhere in there.
But seriously, go fedhas or dithmenos or okawaru instead of fucking sif, jesus christ
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>friend tells me to try furyband
>literally cannot figure out how to go backwards in race/class selection screen
escape doesn't do it
do I really have to (S)tart all over everytime I want to go back and read more descriptions ?
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>>121264185
You can only give them a single item each
make sure you make it a good one
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>grit gate
>unique novice of sightless way waddles onto my screen
>'easy'
>does 46 damage in one turn and oneshots me

fuck you qud
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>>121328796
Wow anon, great advice.
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>>121329228
That information wasn't there the first time I played newBeogh
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>>121255717
>>121259730
No problem. Oka is the safe bet though chei is the GOAT choice here. +10 damage on most forms, it helps your EV alongside other misc benefits. Just be a little wary, there's a dead spot where if you don't get the altar early or late you can get wrecked by a bad spawn cause you don't have the boosts or the raw skill to handle a flub yet.

Some other fun things are HOGl of Beogh. Just don't get overconfidence cause of your allies or get yourself killed saving Redshirt mcReplaceable. Spriggan Enchanter of Dith. https://loom.shalott.org/learndb.html#hyperbolic . Unarmed Demonspawn chaos knight of Xom. Mummy summoner of Sif. High elf arcane marksman of Oka. Octopode EE of Chei. Minotaur Gladiator of Nemelex with high evocations.

>>121328796
>>121329228
Does setting them to pickup anything so they're rifle through your pile of bardiche's and branded plates and you can give them something nice now or is it nopickup at all now and you can gift one to them?
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>>121330902
monsters can't pick up items that you've seen, R
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>tfw orcobol comes down the stairs
>tfw nobody has done more htan 2 damage and none of it lasted
Good day for amazing drops, parry, hardiness, and heavy armor
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Donald the fedora-wearer.
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This episode of Sil is brought to you by the grave wight.
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Since nobody seemed to know anything about Dragon Fin Soup, I went to the trouble of downloading it for free from PS+. There are 3 modes, an endless dungeon that should be reminiscent of a typical roguelike, a survival mode and the story which I played briefly. Gameplay seems to be simpler than what we are used to, but it might get deeper as I progress. Movement seems to be an odd mixture of dredmor and normal RL, with MC being able to move diagonally but not attack diagonally. Monsters cannot attack or move diagonally, but spells and guns seem to ignore this rule. When you move, you turn to face that direction and this can lead you to being open for backstabs and such. You can turn yourself as a free movement however. You find spells and new weapons in chests and on the dungeon floor like usual, and you can buy and craft more stuff in the town level. There seems to be some sort of meter that you can build by drinking alcohol (healing items are alcohol, MC is an alcoholic), but I didn't use any healing items so I don't know what you can really use the meter for. The story mode is setup like Angband where you live in a town level and get quests to visit dungeons. Each dungeon has a different tileset and monsters, but they don't seem TOO different from a gameplay perspective. On the subject of the tileset, it is extremely beautiful and all the portraits are really well done. My only complaint is that sometimes it obscures your vision of what could be in front of you. I'm not sure many of us would really like this game, as it seems on more of the casual side and it does feature some memes (enemies and PC's in town are randomly named, for example I ran into a zombie named "Deathly Anon"), but overall it seems rather interesting for a new roguelike. I'll play it some more later and tell you guys what I see, if anyone is interested at all.
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>>121334612
nigga do you really expect people to read that wall of text
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>>121334753
Well shit. Its pretty late and I didn't think about how I should format it, but whatever. I have to believe that we are capable of reading a block of text.
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>>121334256
Approximately 7 will total (remember it's modified by grace) largely cuts back on the early drainers.
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>>121333989
>not having invocations as your highest skill
>not being the Messiah
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>>121336129
Isn't Smiting the only thing it affects? Is it really that great?
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>>121334612
Post playthroughs if possible.
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>>121336314
A. Sick-ass titles
B. Smiting is amazing, you can oneshot all of the really annoying demons in Pan and abyss (smoke demons and hellions basically go down in one high-invo smite)
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>>121336351
I'll see if my toaster can run it, I was playing it on my ps3.
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So, any way to get the tome dlc thats not wasting my shekels?
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>>121338374
You clearly enjoyed tome. Give him the 5 sheckles.
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>>121338374
Apparently you aren't missing much, so either pirate it or just buy it. Its like $3 or something.
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>>121284280
probably the part where you maliciously started controlling his desires as a dependant leech of a goddamned evil tool of tyranny and domination

I mean seriously
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>Hit 11-32 protection in Sil
Whew lad. This is the life.
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>>121339261
Spoke too soon. Thanks creeping horror from behind... Fucking fuck me. That nigger fucked my gear up good.
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Hope this wasn't any good cause I'm not about to spend 4500 xp to get it.
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>>121324834
>Alchemist is one of the least complicated
it's been so long since I played normal senpai
why are you telling him to unlock shit what's wrong with you

ALL NEW TOME PLAYERS READ THIS
DOWNLOAD THE ADDON IGNORE RACE/CLASS LOCKS
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>>121341234
Forgot pic

Elessar is just +1 grace right?
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How unfortunate :^)
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>This trove needs 2 scrolls of acquirement to function. Give it the items?
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>>121341818
I'm surprised they haven't removed that yet.
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I did it for you, anon from the other day. You have been avenged.
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>>121342057
>Give it 2 scrolls
>It gives you up to 16 items some of which use said acq when generated
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>>121342281
Why would they remove such a wonderful item?
That should be in a starting kit when playing MuMo
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>>121329220
It's because you have an ego or will of ~10. It acts as both your psi offence and defence, they can get crazy high penetration multipliers if you're playing a numbskull. There's an even worse version in Bethesta Susa that's even nastier. Maybe try wearing a knollworm skull, I think the extra 1 ego would help some.
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I love /rlg/
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>>121341680
Cost me the last kemurakuo on the level. Fucking fuck you vault designer. I was that close to having lost 4500 xp for nothing
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>>121343109
What is your favourite RL?
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>>121343109
I love you too anon
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>>121315603
Thats pretty cool looking. If i want to keep up with chris's latest updates any idea where should I look? I had no idea that he was even still working after 3.5 and now i'm very intrigued.
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>>121343245
IA
>>121343248
I love you more
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>>121317598
Only fury had that.
This is good.
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Is it worth leveling a weapon skill over the required skill to have the min delay?

>>121343738
No i love you more
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>>121342446
The trove wasnt bad, got 3 arti rings, one of which was robustness, got 2 demon whips and one more scroll of acq which gave me gauntlets of war
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UH OH
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>>121345091
I like seeing this. I didnt risk stealing it and bought it like an honorable person too!
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>>121323527
linking silstreamer saying there's commentary of sage's ttyrecs could be confusing to a newfriend that's not aware of our beloved spice rack naming conventions
then again a newfriend wouldn't be watching sil ttyrecs, so
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Splat inbound.
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>>121347448
And now it's not respondign after I missed an ancient adamant serpent after using an herb of rage. RIP
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>>121347668
Still not responding....
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>>121347897
Finn and jake would never play sil.
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>>121347448
With that evasion, he'll be constantly earthquaking you.
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>>121333989
>water indicator is the same color as if character was wading through it but the character is walking on it and is thus not affected by it
>this is not consistent with how it changes color flying over it
triggered
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>>121333989
>hat of RC
>helmet of RF
someone had a very lucky volcano/Ice cave.
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>>121348383
Finn and Jake's lives are Sil.
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>>121349156
I don't remember Sil having unexploded atomic bombs and videogames
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>>121349118
Yeah, one right after the other actually. I think it was Orc:2 and 3 and already had some resists for both.
That character is dead now though.
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>>121349210
Definitely check out the 1.3.0 prerelease.
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>>121349294
>morgoth is the Lich
>Fionna and Finn are the two elfdudes I forgot the names of
>Marceline is a regular vampire
who the hell would princess bubblegum be
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>Tukima's Dance a branded axe-wielding orc
>his axe cleaves the entire pack and kills them instantly
I love this spell.
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>>121349539
Tukima's is pretty rad. It's fun to watch the minotaur being beaten by his own weapon.
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Why do Hexes suck so much in DCSS?
The only monsters you want to use them on have a stupidly high MR; enough that Hexes 12 and Spellcasting 10 only give a 30~% chance of success to Confuse a hydra.

Isn't it just better to buff yourself with Charms?
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>>121349782
It is, charms have always been inherently superior as you only need to cast them to increase your chances of winning, not to also roll a second time to see if it does something.
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>there are people who don't think confusing touch is the greatest spell ever

It's a fucking level 1 spell that bypasses MR and works on HD instead, unless the monster is magic immune.
And it's level fucking 1.
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I hate this fucking place. Gotta scan every fucking wall to find a non permanent one to be able to make progress
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>>121345091
Wait why are they so cheap
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>>121349782
Discord is a very good spell, to be fair - along with EHib. I do agree with you though, charms are better in most cases.

>>121350492
Too.
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>>121351971
The good ones arent really cheap but its not like money is a problem
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>>121352040
Discord is literally worse than mass confusion.
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So which of the Shield offense skills are worth leveling up?
Also please criticize all my choices so I can learn.
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>>121352214
I know, I'm asking because in my game they were much more expensive.
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>>121352324
Maybe you had bad charisma, or shopkeeper was of a wrong race
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>>121351249
Make sure you pick up boots of the machine, that's the unique you get there.
Also, how does a soulknive play? Is it fun?
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I'll make a new thread for when we hit 750.
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>>121352307
Assault is godlike riposte is godlike first one could get one point, mouse over the third because I forget what it does
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So i cleared all of this and i gotten no good boots
NO BOOTS, all +0 crap.. Theres one room in depth:3 which is locked by runed door and its filled with all sort of shit which i could clear easy probably but holy shit if i dont find boots there too..
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>>121352435
They're a mix of mindcrafter and warrior, their main thing is that you can use your melee attack as a ranged one
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>>121352692
Cool, although phase warrior does that, using melee attack at range, and even does it using all the blows you have available.
Pretty OP if you ask me. The #1 on Furyladder is phase warrior since you can make them insanely strong especially with mutant start and 2 weapons.
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>>121352661
>+0 crap
Would be +2 if you spent a couple enchant scrolls on them.
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>>121352638
Thanks, here's the third one.
Also I went 5 for blinding speed, the last skill in Combat technique tree, since it seems speed is always very good but should I put the points somewhere else instead? I can still take them out.
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>>121352869
>blinding speed
STOP
>5
>over all the other amazing shit you could 5
>getting blinding speed in the first place
WHAT ARE YOU DOING
WHAT ARE YOU DOING
and that's a good one pointer (shield slam)
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>>121352857
NO, they are valuable a lot, besides i have 73 ac so.. I just want them for maybe some resistances and crap
On the other hand, i found this
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>>121353008
>73 AC
Then it doesn't matter if your boots are +0.
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>>121352979
Alright thanks, I smartened up.
Also 4 seems optimal for riposte since extra point would only increase the crit chance.
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>>121353107
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Does anyone understand how the animal spawning/detection works in Unreal World?

What region is the best hunting ground?
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>>121347897
>3.5 hours later
>Still not responding
Hold me.... I hope there's a crash recovery like crawl but I so doubt it.
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