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Creative ISK-Making Edition

Old thread: >>121048575

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/t9Af7NJY

Future:
>Spring: Citadel expansion & cap rebalance release
>Winter: Ship rebalances, new frigs (navy ewar, t2 logi, t2 ice miner), new t2 MJD dessies, missile disruption mod
>Nov 08: Amarr Championship begins (House Single Elimination)
>Nov 03: "Parallax" - jump fatigue 6x shorter, entosis regen, killmarks, Brain in a Box, Crimson Harvest removed

Past:
>Oct 30: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/amarr-championships-rules-and-schedule/
>Oct 26: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/building-your-citadel-one-block-at-a-time/
>Oct 25: All-Out all out of K-Space
>Oct 25: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reworking-capital-ships-and-thus-it-begins/
>Oct 23: This Week 99: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=452067
>Oct 15: SP trading concept presented
>Oct 06: Try the beta launcher
>Oct 06: Hydra/Camel AT collusion confirmed, prizes confiscated, Smug Legion new "winner"
>Oct 01: First "Focus Group" will be discussing T3Ds
>Sep 29: Battlecruisers get Foozie'd nice and good.
>Sep 14: CSM 2015 minutes http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/meeting-minutes/
>Aug 13: Citadel FAQ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mEbMx9xUXje3KH4AppvcjSSoALUVtVEaK6ZZ-zy2Lrs/edit#
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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1st for you're all a bunch of dinguses for letting the old thread die
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2ND FOR SCANNING IS THE FUCKING WORST
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>>121084493
Is the guy that makes these portraits still around? I only see the same ones everytime.
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>>121085649
if i had to guess, i'd say he got swamped with requests and gave up. see filename for contact info. he might be open for new stuff now, this one is from 8 months ago. it was 500m iirc.

drawfags wanted
shard pls draw me like one of your french girls, i have the jungle fever
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falling off at 40 posts edition
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>>121085937
>he only has 40 posts falloff range
how embarrassing.
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Please help me, please.
I'm getting a massive headache just to figure out this shit.
I simply want to make my Logitech extreme 3D pro control my ship and camera.
I want the joystick to control the ship direction and I want the HAT to control the camera. Please help me I'm going to kill someone if I can't get this to work.
I'll pay ISK to anyone who can help me solve this.
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>>121087739
I remember a project like that from many years ago, they used scripts to spam left click in space

No idea if you can make it work with the new keys though
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>>121088518
Is there at least a way you can get the nose of the ship to point the camera in the same direction?
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>>121085893
It was the best 100m I ever spent.
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>amarr
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>>121084493
>khanid unable to keep a thread alive
Foreshadowing the fate of their heir :^)
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>amarr
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>>121090895
u can hike right off m8
>old blood
>ever good for progress
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>Amarr
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>this game is so boring, there's nothing to shoot!
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Will Brain in a Box make anime real?
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>>121091621
It already did.
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how do i become an ISD
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>Body Modifications
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>goggles
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>>121087586
heh
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>>121090895

Tash-Murkon has this ez
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i am going to do the guristas epic arc, for the dank gila bpc isk

I can fly caldari and minmatar ass frigs, and I can use t2 hybrids and projectiles

does anybody have a good fit for a Harpy or something that can destroy the missions with ease, or at least recommendation for tank and dps requirements?
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>>121103152
according to popular consensus, t3ds are objectively superior to assfrigs, so you might want to consider that
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>>121103582
yeah no shit, t3ds are not allowed through the acceleration gates

so, assault frig
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>>121103992
I have no idea what the gurista epic arc consists of, sorry
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>>121103152
I heard you can run it in combat interceptors, so it's probably not very hard
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>>121105890
>>121104228
aight then well i'll probably just stick with either a trasher or a basic buffer harpy if i bother

nobody come to venal and kill me
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i'm so glad fozziesov made null fun again
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>Amarr
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>>121111974
except it didn't really, sort of turned it into a job having to log on between these specific hours
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>>121112501
maybe your alliance shouldn't have sov if there's no one online during your prime time
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>>121113613

agreed

just make your alliance bigger and then you can have sov, fozziesov is no place for the little guys
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>>121113995
Relax friend, you sound bitter.
Fatigued even
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>>121114576

i was agreeing with you
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>>121113613
Thats not it, its not an alliance wide thing its a personal thing that now instead of doing what ever I wanted before, now I'm obligated to stand guard and shit its annoying as piss because I don't wanna play EVE as a job I want to play eve as a game.
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>Minmatar
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what race to train to cruisers to V
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>>121117434
gallente
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>>121117434
gallente for good ships, minmatar for bad ships

caldari or amarr if you're a faggot
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>>121117492
>>121117510
What makes gallente so good? The deimos seems to be very fun for a solo pvp ship at least.
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>>121117434
AMARR MASTER RACE
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>>121117586
they're "in the meta" right now

drones and blasters and rails really dominate as they're some of the most popular ships
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>>121117586
all of their t1 cruisers are top tier
both their hacs are top tier, if you include solo as a thing to use a hac for
both their recons are usable/pretty good for whatever, just like the minmatar recons
the oneiros is kinda trash, but a load of idiots use it for some reason
vexor navy issue is top tier
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How decent is a solo thorax? If I try to web and blaster someone will I just get kited to death?
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>>121118017
not if you're good, I've used it a bunch of times. it's very fast if you active tank it rather than shitting it up with plates.

the only concern is fighting afterburner frigates in lowsec and getting kited by frigates in lowsec plexes.

I get around these problems by carrying a mobile depot, warp stabs and and spare stasis web in my cargo. that way if I fuck up and get permatackled I can stab out, or if some obnoxious armor tracking disruptor hookbill gets under my guns I can stab out or get the second web on and shit on him.
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>>121118017
you might get kited to death which is why I suggest going kitey yourself

200mm rails in the highs

cap booster, scram, web, 50mn microwarp drive

DCU, EANM, Nanofiber, AAR, magnetic field stab

for rigs, either a damage rig like the collision accelerator or a polycarbon engine housing to go faster, then the third should be a nano pump to make the armor repairer work better
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>>121118392
shield fit with triple magstab is pretty hilairous too
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>>121117660
Thats past meta, the best ships are caldari right now.
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Knock knock
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>>121122072
Who be
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>>121117586
ishtar is the best afk ratting ship outside of carriers
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Goodnight eog
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>>121126026
o/
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Does CCP still ban if you reactivate an account to use a PLEX but it's bought off the market instead of spending actual money?

Also, not sure if I do come back whether I should run incursions or something more lucrative, and/or start fresh and join some low/nullsec faggots
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>>121127529
From personal experiences to your q, no.

I may have been lucky tho or something.
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>>121127529
theyve never banned to my knowledge
they might disable hours 4 plex on that account though, if theyre feeling like assholes

considering the player count though, you should be safe
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>>121127529
why would they ban you for that?
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If I said navy issue raven, what would be the first thing you think of?
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>>121129804
bellicose
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>>121127529
>use a PLEX but it's bought off the market
That's the purpose of Hours for PLEX.
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>>121129804
Raven Navy Issue
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>>121129804
RNI
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>>121129804
CNR.
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>>121129804
mission running fit
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>>121130681
>>121130912
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>>121129804
barely better than boosted hisec mining isk/hour
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>still no autocannon nerf
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longest dt ever...
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>Tranquility (Unknown)
Game over, man! Brain in a Box broke EVE.
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Do i need a mic to fully enjoy this game?
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>>121133619
yes, got to shittalk with your m8s. $5 desk mic master race.
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>>121133116
>autocannon
>op
I finally understand why the minmatar ships are all top tier and overused.... Oh wait.

They're also probably the most skill intensive.
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>>121133484
They're migrating skills and stuff.
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>>121134389
couldn't they have done that before?
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>>121133619
Almost every single fleet requires you to have TeamSpeak.
>>121134414
They need everyone to be offline to have our final SP.
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offline again...
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free sp ccp??????????????????
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>you will never be a VIP
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What happened to the Blood Raider cerebral accelerators after downtime? Did they change into something else or disappear?

I used all mine yesterday.
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>>121137065
I've heard that they'll remain but become unusable.
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>>121137065
I've still got them.

Expired Blood Raider Advanced Cerebral Accelerator

Earned from a Blood Raider Gauntlet site, this accelerator was once used to boost a pilots attributes across the board.

Now however, its genetic make up has collapsed and dissolved, rendering its effects completely useless.
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>>121137854
Neat. Thanks.
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>>121137854
sounds like it's just a collectible now.
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>>121138789
Yep, it can also be listed on the market now.
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>expansion released
>no new launcher background
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not much of an expansion unless you're a sovfag or amarr pilot with bad taste
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>Cartesian space coordinates of the victim's vessel in killmails are now recorded and exposed via the XML API and CREST
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>>121139740
speak for yourself; i can't wait to play with the probing changes and see if they've done something good yet
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>>121140543
the new map is shit as usual.
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>>121140661
it's not really that bad anymore.
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>>121090152
>Amarr
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what kind of ironic omen setup should I fly for solo nullsec?
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>>121144634
drop a turret slot for a nos, discharge elutriation rigs, active armor tank with cap booster, cap battery.
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>>121145145
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>>121145145
that's way too ironic for me
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Do we get sp for the downtime?
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>>121145727
Nope

Why are bats so cute?
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>>121146751
Not sure, Anon. They are just magic.
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>>121140310
CCP's API system is just the most fucked up thing.

There's so many exploits, like feeding locator agent data through the API to expose the ship, fitting, and exact position in space of a target. Then there's the moon goo one which can tell what a moon produces if someone got killed on its grid.
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>>121147439
I've never heard of these. does ccp know?
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How can I figure out what I should trade LP for to get the most ISK? It seems like a huge hassle even if I use some sketchy website.
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>>121149212
there is a website for it. you might be able to find it some how...
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>>121149294
Right but it's annoying to cross check the site, hope the rates are correct, then move everything to put it up on the market. Is it supposed to be this frustrating?
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>>121149125
Probably. They aren't going to waste time fixing them since only a few specialised groups use them.
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>>121149540
so you have to check a site, press a couple of buttons and then move some things to a hub. that's not exactly difficult.
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>>121149757
And then get killed 1 jump before Jita
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>>121149790
l2haul
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>>121149790
aren't all the best things implants and blueprints and shit anyway? this is really a lot of spoonfeeding
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>Evemon times tell me blood raider booster is in effect
>In-game it's not boosted
y u do dis
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>>121149651
I must know how to use these exploits.


For research purposes.......
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>yesterday
>probe a wh
>bookmark it

>today
>same sig is there
>wormhole is there again, same class, same location
>goes somewhere else

huh
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>>121149790
>Being this bad
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>>121152605
Same thing happened to my static the other day.
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new probe map is pretty. as soon as it stops hiding my modules and shit it'll be nice.
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Is it just me or does the movement on this map feels sluggish as fuck. I think I'll stick to the old probing.
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>>121156641
It's fast enough for me. Get a better computer maybe?
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>>121156641
seems pretty smooth to me. I'm using it full screen. I found it less annoying after turning off scanner probes in the menu thing at the top.
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>$150,000
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Guessing they're gonna hotfix shit because since this morning's patch my map has been fucked.
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>>121156641
Use the old map.

Also
>tfw 80mil SP but I never did Heavy drones
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>>121149212
I was once raped for about 1.4 plexes worth of some heavy thing in an indy transporting LP stuff. I was stupid. Don't be like me, anon.

Fly safe. Pay someone to take the transport risk, just sell it near the LP hub, or just don't be stupid.
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>>121157485
Yeah, there's a patch coming out tomorrow. Apparently Parallax broke a lot of shit.

>>121157207
>Pledge $500 or more
>Two hour strategy consultation with The Mittani
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>>121119124
I've always had a hard time getting that to work because of fitting and lack of resists
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>>121158998
why would you fly a slow not tanky ship to transport something that could fit in a frigate

why would you ever fly a t1 indy for any reason whatsoever

literally the only purpose of t1 indies is to broadcast 'I am a retard plz kill me' to everyone who sees you
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fuck
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>>121159591
noobs in t1 haulers are fine because they don't have enough stuff to warrant a gank

it's only a bad choice if you're carrying valuables
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>>121159631
I never liked the coercer, other destroyers just out performed it on large

hell the cormorant gets a double optimal range bonus AND a tracking bonus, meanwhile the coercer just gets a regular optimal bonus and a tracking bonus

also the guns cap it out regardless of your set up
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>Start fucking with PI out of boredom
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>>121159591
It was a long time ago, so my recollection is messy, but:
It couldn't fit in a frigate. It was one of the armor plates which was the best LP:ISK I could get for that LP brand, which could actually sell instantly in Jita.

The rest of what you say is correct.
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>>121159631
none of those amarr raata skins don't look terrible

>>121159801
shitter pls
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>>121161502
>2 mids
>a cap "bonus" that doesn't work well at all
>less range than a rail corm by far
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>>121159784
except t1 indies get ganked by solo vexors

almost anything is enough to warrant a gank, unless you're moving unrefined ore or something

>>121160064
meh, ok

sorry if I was a bit harsh
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>>121163161
>indies
Do you mean inties?
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>>121159801
Long range cormorants are awesome, but I can't dislike eight energy turrets. I like to think there's a spot for the coercer as a gun platform if the gang fits.
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>>121159839
Do you have a pretty planet?
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>>121163228
no
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>>121162973
>2 mids

so? catalyst has 2 mids. cormorant has 2 mids if you tank it

>cap bonus

what's the problem here exactly

>less range than a rail corm

no shit. do you go around saying all the destroyers are terrible because the cormorant has more range?
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>>121163954
>>cap bonus
>
>what's the problem here exactly
its such shit that it caps itself out even with the cap "bonus" its a fucking crutch
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>>121163954
>>so? catalyst has 2 mids. cormorant has 2 mids if you tank it
the catalyst is just better purely because it puts out more DPS at better ranges and even up close

oh yea and it doesn't cap itself out
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>>121164192
it's -50% not -100%. get good, nobody else manages to cap out in a coercer. if you manage to live long enough to cap out, consider yourself lucky and look at the big stack of frigates you killed.
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>>121164362
>get good
nice comback for a shit destroyer that has the same cap regen of other destroyers and whose weapons use 50% more cap than hybrids even with the extra 50% to cap usage.

>if you manage to live on enough
>capacitor depletes in 0:00:15
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>>121164347
Post that catalyst fit please
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>>121164851
>I'll fit 3 armor reps and 2 shield boosters that'll show how bad the cap is

yeah nice comeback shitter
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>>121165002
>fit just guns that'll show how bad the cap is


>>121164978
for you, threw it together in like 5 minutes
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>>121165294
heres a better one that gets more tank

oh hey look at that, cap stable at 55% with guns AND an AB
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>>121165537
>ab on a destroyer

shitter confirmed
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>>121165294
>better range
lmao the cormorant can hit up to like 90kms and do like 160dps

The only thing the catalyst is good for is blasters
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>>121165776
thats better range than the coercer with dual light beams and more DPS too
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Math time /eog/!

I have two ventures mining gas.
Venture A is flown by a skilled pilot with t2 gas harvesters and a max skill venture. A gets 2.67 m3s.
Venture B is flown by a scrub with t1 gas miners. B gets 1.59 m3s.

To maximize efficiency they decide that venture A should drop a certain amount of gas over to B's ore hold to prevent unnecessary trips.

The question is how many m3 of gas must A give to B for them to fill their holds at the same time?
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>>121165776
>rails on catalyst
now I've seen it all /eog/
If you want good medium range just get a trasher, you also get svipul tier alpha with it.

You want insane range? Rails cormorant.
You want Battleship dps in your face? Catalyst
Coercer sadly doesn't cut it and does nothing spectacular or unique.
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When are the navy Ewar frigs supposed to come out?
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>>121166192
you would do a proportionate ratio based on their rate and the time it takes to fill each cargohold, assuming you can jet can multiple times per minute that is
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>>121165776
The corm fit I have volleys for 354 and does 129 dps at 84k.

A coercer with dual light beams volleys for 460 and does 197 dps at 54k.

a really retarded coercer fit with focused beams and a pg implant can volley for 650 at 50k
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>>121166291
December
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>>121166320
Yes but you can calculate the amount that you need to transfer in total. I think i got the answer right but wanted to check it.
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>>121166192
Do you need to know the hold space for each venture?
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>>121166550
harvester 2's cycle at double the amount that harvest 1's do

average that out for ever 2500m3 that Venture B harvests, Venture A harvests 5000m/3

thats your big hint and you should be able to get the rest of it
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>>121166827
it's always the same...
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>>121166349
54k is not sniping range tho, any frigate can close the distance before it dies.
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>>121167643
>54k is not sniping range tho, any frigate can close the distance before it dies.
it kinda as, any frigate that wants to close on that even going 3000m/s is going to take like 150-200 DPS for that entire time assuming the shooter doesn't move at all
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>>121166827
Its always 5k

>>121166853
Still depends on mining frigate skill.

I got how much they each get per second.

I just solved it graphically:
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>>121167865
>Still depends on mining frigate skill.
assuming they had the same, the proportion is 1:2
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Is anyone doing sites/missions now or later? Would you let me salvage you wrecks?
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>>121167960
sure, but i gave the actual prop in the original post
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>>121167643
I don't think it's a viable solo fit at all if that's what you mean. I'm not really sure how to use pyfa to check damage against something like a frigate orbiting at close range. Is there a good estimate for angle and velocity I can use?
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>>121168167
>frigate orbiting at close range.
If a frigate is orbiting your sniping ship you're already dead.
At anything past 20kms you're gonna hit any T1 frigate in the game with small rails, and if its just burning sideways for maximum transversal then its not making any range on you and you can always just leave.


And sniping fits are viable for solo, as long as your targets are dumb, which is a lot of people.
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why are you talking about 1v1s with sniper destroyers lol
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>>121168795
That's what I assumed, but it's good to check and put numbers on things.

Regardless, there's not really a point in flying a beam coercer or a sniper corm solo. If you're flying with other people I think the coercer is definitely viable.
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>>121166192
(2.67-1.59)*.5/((2.67+1.59)*.5) % of their hold.
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Oi lads. We're on page 10.

Lets not have the thread die early again like last thread.
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>>121172841
>Amarr
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>>121166853
>>121167960

Tech2 huffers are twice the per-cycle yield, but also have a 33% longer cycle time.

In the original question, Pilot A has Mining Frig V, and Pilot B has Mining Frig III (based what he said the m3/s yields were for each).
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bretty gud
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>>121175375
>Le high sec pvp
What's worst is that you're PVPing noobs in Couster.
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>>121175635
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>Reinforce POCOs
>Wait patiently to kill POCOs
>Shit comes out of reinforced mode at 90% shields
>Shit reinforces again
>New timers are literally impossible, being less than 24 hours or more than 48 hours from when they were reinforced
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>Trying to make well-rounded character
>Fucking skill system makes everything take ages

I WILL NOT MAKE ALTS
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>>121176972
Buy implants and boosters.
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This new probing interface takes time getting used to
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Drifter Incursions are back next week.

That's cool, I guess.
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>tfw no drifters interdicting systems and randomly blasting haulers
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>yfw drifters prefer targeting sleeper based t3 ships
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>desperately trying to leave my shitty dead WH corp
>can't find any not shit kspace exits
>ccp changes scanning
>can barely scan

im trapped

pic related, worst turret in game
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>>121175375
https://zkillboard.com/character/91551533/

Oh wow.
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>>121185610
>literal bottom feeders that kill noobs all day
How are these faggots not banned?
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>>121186282
It's probably his alt
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>>121186282
Looks like they're just killing their alt over and over. For whatever reason.
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Would you pay 10 million ISK for a service where you warp to a bookmark I give you, I jettison some shuttles and let you kill me in the shuttles and I kill you in the shuttles until your kill and loss pages on zkill are full of shuttle kills and thus essentially cleared from anyone trying to scope out your usual fits/hunting grounds?

Where would you want this service? Jita?
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>>121186924
Unless you think you can fill somebody's KB with over 10 pages of shuttle kills and not kill yourself of boredom, don't even bother.
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>>121187145

I could do it with trial alts in newbie ships
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>>121186924
shuttles don't count in the killmark
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>>121186872
>For whatever reason
Oh wait, I guess he's farming killmarks with his Sin.
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>>121176495
>>>Shit comes out of reinforced mode at 90% shields
this doesn't happen, the shields come out at sub 50%
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>>121187712

Not for killmarks, for clearing killboards. So your enemies can't look at your kill stats to see what fits you've lost or where you've been killing people.
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>>121187954
There's a filter that shows lost ships in zkill. You can also filter by specific ship or sec status (i.e. low/nullsec)
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>>121187954
who cares? everyone knows how people fit, "clearing your KB" is a waste of time and money
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>>121187869
>this isn't meant to happen, the shields are supposed to come out at sub 50%

FTFY

It happened anyway, and like I said the new timers are screwed up too, they not within the normal durations that POCO timers can come out in, they're either impossibly short or impossibly long.

It remains to be seen if it's just the POCOs that were reinforced before todays patch deployment or if it's bugged across the board.
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>>121190057
if what you said was true then the POCO can never be killed because once the POCO goes above 50% shields it will reset the reinforcement cycles
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>>121190303
It seems like it's related to patch deployment today because the amount they recharged was basically as if they'd been recharging normally since downtime. There were multiple POCOs coming out so we FRAPSed one coming out and instantly being at 90% and took screenshots of the screwed up timers and submitted a support ticket about it.

But shit, it's still super annoying and we'll see tomorrow if POCOs turn out to be magically invulnerable again tomorrow or if they'll actually be destructible.
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>>121191383
So what's the reason to assault a poco? Want that tax yourself?
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>>121193521
you'll get to charge taxes

problem is if people don't use your Poco's and they get destroyed prematurely they can be a really bad investment
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>>121194494
The average tax income on a poco can't be all that much compared to the initial cost.
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>>121193521
The tax income these particular POCOs bring in is fairly extreme.

Like the whole "set" is approximate to a dysprosium moon.
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What do I spend my concord LP on?
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>>121198168
meta capital guns or mods and shit
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>>121198168
Meta XL blasters used to be the shit.
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>Amarr
>>
>people ACTUALLY think 10% to cap usage per level is a real bonus
>they actually think its "just as valid" bonus as any other ship's bonuses
>they think that its ok that amarr laser ships have only 1 combat bonus and every other ship in the game as 2 combat bonuses
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>>121204002
>the sacrilege (a ship with capless guns) has better cap regen than the zealot

>even with a 50% cap usage bonus at max level, lasers use 2 times the amount of capacitor that hybrids do
>>
>the abaddon and apoc cannot fit a full rac of tachyon beam lasers without severely going over powergrid
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>>121185002
just go back to the old interface in options
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>got reimbursed
feelsgoodman
>>
Noob question - How time consuming is even (i know about the no casuals allowed meme but can i still "have fun" with a couple of hours a week without spending too much money?

Im not trying to make it into massive scale battles but maybe some solo pvp shenanigans. Also how grindy is it compared to runescape?
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>>121208525
how "new" are you?

I'm not being sarcastic just generally curios
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>>121208525
EVE isn't a couple hours a week kind of game sadly.
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>>121208746
this new

>>121209070
starting to realize that, i just dont have the time for mmorpgs anymore. i wish i never overlooked this game all these years
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>>121209330
getting money in EVE is pretty easy from shitty mining to level 2 missions you can have your first 10 million isk in as little as a half an hour
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>>121209330
WHY ARENT YOU TRAINING ANY SKILLS

and yes eve can be played casually, because you learn skills while offline, so you can come back in a few days and have a dozen new things learned
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>>121209330
keep your guy subbed and skilling up tho.
You never know when you get into a car accident, become paralyzed from the waist down and become a NEET with all the time in the world .
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>>121209330
TRAIN A SKILL

ANYTHING

NAVIGATION OR SOMETHING

YOU'RE WASTING TIME

Anyway, take it slow and explore the game. I think you can play it casually as long as you don't have any illusions about becoming the king of nullsec or something. It's an RPG, so advance your character and enjoy it.
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Any issue with using a throwaway email for a trial account? I wanna see if I feel like coming back to this game but I don't wanna spend 10$ to reactivate my old account yet.
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>>121209885
Shouldn't be any problem. Obviously it's a brand new trial character. I think CCP only gets mad when you're multiboxing trial accounts.
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>>121209885
absolutely normal

>>121209330
pls join all-out sempai, we will make you lose ships in interesting ways
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>>121209640
>>121209881
do these skills affect my current ship only or my character in general and how do i gain more skill point if i run out?
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>>121210061
>>121210113
Rad, thanks. Am I reading this right that trial accounts can't use any industrial ships? That's pretty butts.
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>>121210195
Character in general.

You always gain more, it increases over time. Hence why they're all screaming to start doing SOMETHING.
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>>121210195
lmao you thinks respawn?

Those skills are for your character, if a ship dies its dead forever.
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>>121210195
skills affect everything

train shield management? you just got 5% extra shields on every single ship you will ever fly

all that sort of shit
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shit... fuck, i was looking for relics

still alive though
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>>121212974
you sir look like you enjoy going all-out
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>>121214710
i was thinking of fighting them but after the first missile hit me i nope'd out. anyway ill con't tomorrow thanks for the tips guys
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>Amarr
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>Patch with least content since oceanus
>Has every possible bug
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>>121212974
>unironically flying an Ibis
d'aww
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>>121212974
get a real scanning ship.
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>>121221849
What do you expect from a dev team that's lost 200 people?

Citadels are going to be trash too.
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Why are half my modules offline when I undock, they're all online while fitting in station
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Is scanning completely fucking broken?
I've already tried old and experimental and I can't get anything past 0%, earlier when I scanned a WH it wasn't actually there.
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>>121227902
works fine for me
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>>121227902
>top down
>while scanning
kek
have you considered that you are way above or way below the signature
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>>121233542
i did not realize that this was a rookie ship until you posted - i assumed it was a tengu or something
now i have to save it
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>>121234925
I deleted my post because I missed that he was doing career agent: exploration and didn't have access to a Heron yet, and his modules are probably civilian modules. The only bizarre thing is that I think he warped to an anomaly rather than a signature.

Would've been cute if he was genuinely trying to explore with a rookie ship.
>>
(_) Try the New Map
(_) Try the New Probe and Directional Scanners

Into the trash.
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>>121233648
no, I moved the camera at the end
it was perfectly centered
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>>121235887
use longer range
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Holy fuck, this patch sucks...
I just saw time dilation factor spike to 90% in an empty system.
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>>121239261
It's Brain in a Box, anon. Brain in a Box is killing EVE. We didn't listen.
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>all out successfully runs a WH op without losing a ship AND makes money out of it
what on earth is happening
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Join Anime Masters Guys.
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>>121239261
90% means it's running at 90% of normal time, it's not a big deal
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>>121090152
>amarr
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>>121185002
Who is this wormhole corp?
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>Bloodraiders
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>Edge Raiders
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>>121241434
What do they do?
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>Sansha's Nation
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You've been abducted and forced to join one of the pirate factions in New Eden.

Which one do you join?
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>>121244581
angel cartel because best
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>>121244581
gurista duh
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>>121244581
serpantis fambro
gon get that bread; hustle never stops
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>>121244581
guristas no question
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>>121244581

SoE.
Just want to go balls deep into Sister Alitura's cunt.
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>Sister
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>>121244581
Sansha's Nation as a True Citizen.

I'd just chill in Stain all day; watching this season's space anime, surrounded by my harem of cyborg cuties.

Living the dream.
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>>121245008
>chooses guristas
>posts picture of a ship from an organisation thats actively hunting the guristas down
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>>121246374
just posting for flavour m8
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>>121246730
your flavour triggered my autism
>>
Gurista family represent
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>Considering resubbing
>See that its ten dollars to resub at the moment
>Wait a day then decide to resub
>15 dollars
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>>121248472
sounds perfect, anime stay home
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>>121248995
Animes are people too!
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>Another EVE book in Kikestarter
Oh coo-
>TheMittani.com co-producing
LMAO nope
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>>121250059
>Oh coo-

>getting excited for cancerous cashgrabs
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>>121250185
At least it's not another EA game le dumbfrogposter xDDD
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>>121250059
But anon. If you pledge just $500, you can have a personal virtual pizza party with The Mittani himself.
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>>121250459
>At least it's not another EA game le dumbfrogposter xDDD

>I'm eating shit
>At least it's not diarrhea
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>>121250470
Or how about give them 560 plex to have your own chapter about tengoo
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when will there be a book about /eog/ corps
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>>121250585
tumblr wants their meme back
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>>121250814
>tumblr wants

You'd know
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>>121251083
TRIGGER ME AGAIN AND I'LL BATPHONE YOUR HOUSE
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>>121241434
>mfw he just promoted my spy to director
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>>121241049
must be another bug, make sure you report it
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>Rifters
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>not Amarr
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>Gallente
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So leaving my current small sov null alliance because leadership is either literally autistic or non-existent.

What small (<100 man fleets) sov null alliances exist that aren't bad? NC.? Tri.?
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>sov nullalliances
>that aren't bad
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>>121260170
>your way of playing the game is shit, my way of playing the game is better.
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>>121259895
Tri seem to be having fun
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>ded thread
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>>121265914
>ded game
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>Bellicose
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>>121235995
Turns out the WH collapsed but was still showing it, even let me warp to it with 0% result.
Just CCP things.
>>
>lasers
>>
Remove jump fatigue, buff jump ranges, remove fozzie sov.

Game fixed and back up to 40k actives.
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>>121269978
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>>121269978
oh man, I'm all for buffing ranges and shit but nothing you said would bring back the players
>>
>I'm all for buffing ranges

how retarded do you have to be
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>>121270175
Yeah dockable POSs will really have people clamouring for the game.
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>>121270249
>inb4 50 posts on why people think supers should jump gates because they can't touch the system they need to get to
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>>121266765
What is wrong with a bellicose?
>>
>tfw had a nightmare where I forgot to type zeros on my sell orders and sold it for 200 isk and not 200M isk.
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>>121271523
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>yfw dror's autism was the only thing keeping the threads alive
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>>121274263
I haven't seen his posts in at least a week
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>>121274694
That's good, right?
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>>121275082
yes
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>>121275082
Very, now post some dogs people.
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>>121275516
>Mordus Legion
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>blood raiders
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x up with ship types guys
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=453845

>Thread locked due to sale being under investigation.
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x bellicose
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>>121277531
wtf
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Confirming that reinforced customs offices begin recharging shields after downtime regardless of whether or not they are still in reinforced when downtime hits. This renders any customs office that recharges back above 25% before it exits reinforced mode totally invulnerable.

Words can't describe how upsetting this is.
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>>121278126
report the bug then show time lapsed photos
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>>121278229
I already reported it yesterday and included a video of it. Other people have apparently also experienced the same bug with both customs offices and POS towers. I haven't received a response yet.

It is upsetting because every day those POCOs aren't blown up Brave are getting money.
>>
>>121278721
you won't receive a direct response with a bug report like you would a support ticket.

If the bug report clears and you no longer see it and its "closed" then the bug report was acknowledge, accepted and they're actively working on it

I submitted a bug report over the summer where I had an issue involving my tab system and my brackets seen in space and it seems to have been fixed in the september patch
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>show up in a nullsec pocket in my piece of shit cruiser
>fail to catch anything, they all got to a pos/station
>mfw I'm just going to sit here reading the internet making 15 guys hide in station from a T1 cruiser
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Why you guys selling?
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>>121278721
>It is upsetting because every day those POCOs aren't blown up Brave are getting money.
>>
>>121282523
why not show total ISK from market orders?
>>
why can i not move individual probes while scanning
why did everything change in the last five years
>>
>>121285827
hold down alt or shift or something and you can move individual probes

there is no need to though, pinpoint is best formation and you can move all probes inwards/outwards relative to each other with alt
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>>121277531
>Thread locked due to sale being cancelled.
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>>121285827
it's better this way
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>why did everything change in the last five years
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>i think a guy in my corp just cut his rists
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>>121288389
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>>121280029
Those cruisers you're flying in usually have a huge gang behind them or cyno's for capitals or blops, so I don't blame them for docking up immediately
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>BLOPS
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>>121290864
its so easy to get fuckers to engage on the undock/
>wow a maller on the station aggressed?
>>
>>121283469
Brave enablers are the worst.
>>
>>121293047
>BUT THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO HAVE FUN ANON!
>WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HAD FUN IN EVE?
>>
>>121293641
Trying to have fun is playing the game wrong. In order to enjoy EVE you must aim to ruin the fun of others.
>>
>>121293047
I was referring to Brave getting money anon

Please continue your righteous crusade against their POCO empire
>>
>>121294354
So long as we're on the same page.

Also can you guess where they got these POCOs from?
>>
W-why is Gundam fanfic considered b-bad /eog/?

I-i mean it's a cool deep story, w-why people would l-laugh ...
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>2 escalations in lowsec
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>>121295370
You'll be the only one that can warp to the site anon, just watch out for probes
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>>121295370
>drone escalations in lowsec
>two chances to drop astero in highsec
>final lowsec site gives out T2 rigs material
>>
What's the best ship for using beam lasers? They sound cool. Are there any ships built for warping in at long distance and fucking people with huge glowing death beams?
>>
>>121297707
>What's the best ship for using beam lasers?
navy omen, slicer, anything with a good optimal range bonus.

>they sound cool
but they eat a LOT of capacitor

>built for warping in at long distance
except railguns will do it better
>>
>>121297928
beams are better than rails
>>
>>121298692
rails go so much further than rails
>>
>>121298851
they also use half as much capacitor as beams
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Whats the optimal way to kite? I'm having issues with people either warping off on me or tearing my asshole apart
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>>121299978
you'll have to double click and space, know your surroundings and try not to get tackled, its an extremely rigorous and attention demanding series of techniques that really takes a lot to master

you need a really fast ship, you also need one that can shed light tackle easily, usually the "kite" ships like Slicers, comets, fast cruisers can do this
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>>121299978
refer to the youtube links in the Starter PVP section of the pastebin. a good amount of space is spent on kiting slicers, and how to manually pilot.
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>>121295370
>DED 5 escalation into nullsec
>3 jumps to a high->null gate
>17 jumps deep into null

hrm hrm hrm hrm hrm hrm.....
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>>121301789
Those lowsec were both 5/10 so I died.
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>Minmatar
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>>121303629
I like this one
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>>121303629
can we do shitposting cats instead of dogs from now on?
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My Amarr standing is really low.
I need to get it fixed ASAP.

Please recommend me a ship to run through A LOT of lvl1s really fucking fast.

Is Dramiel good for this kind of thing?
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>>121307639
I'd fit arty, perhaps warp speed rigs. Or pay the tags for datacenter agents and take a hit on your other standings
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>>121307639
do the SoE epic arch
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>Wormhole Rent
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>>121310328
>renting wormhole space

now I've seen it all
>>
whats this shit about rmt on kickstarter i keep seeing
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>>121295137
Did they get all of RvB's pocos transferred to them for free when RvB died? I could see that happening, it's not like they're capable of taking anything for themselves
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>>121311628
Mitani offered his corpse as one of the pledge rewards. Drama ensued and it was changed. Plebbit seems extremely butthurt about the whole book deal.
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I have accrued 1 million SoE loyalty point. No idea how i let that happen.

What should i do?
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>>121313942
blow it all on buying stratios BPC's

build them then sell them for dank money
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>>121313942
Last I checked you could buy stratios bpcs for a good isk ratio
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>>121313942
+3 Charisma implants
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>>121315032
Oh you, rascal you
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>>121313942
compare core/combat probes and launchers against stratios bpc and pick the best or a smathering of the two for quicker sales
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>>121316483

Yeah i'm calculating that right now. should net me around 1.5 billion, not bad at all.
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>>121277523
x astero and slicer
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>Caldari
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>>121319640
Best race.
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Haven't been in FW for a year nor do I keep up with news. What's happened in the Cal/Gal warzone?
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>Amarr
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>>121277523
x falcon :^)
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why are there faggot cats on my /dog/?
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>>121324094
I prefer the cat shitposts over the dog ones, at least its not the same shit jerry seinfeld, will smith, and other generic dogs
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>Panther
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Is the Hurricane able to clear W-Space sites?
If so, what should I put on it?
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What's the most effective Exploration ship? Friendly Null space, i can go to up to 500 mill worth.
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>>121326508
Your racial covops, but if you want to do sleeper chaches, use stratios.
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>>121326508
>Friendly
>null
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>>121326765
>>121326508
The best ship is friendship
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>>121326736
Guess i'll get a Stratios

Ty mon
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What are some good medium sized Low-Sec alliances? Not interested in Snuff/Shadow but wouldn't mind smaller alliances that are allied with them.

Someone the size of what Cruisers Crew was, no idea what even happened to them. I know of Dead Terrorist.. but based of the interactions I've had with them they've been a bunch of dicks, so not interested in them.
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>>121329890
I should also mention that TISHU looks like cancer as well.

Is it too much to ask for a chill alliance? What is it with this game that promotes all the fucking sperg?
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>>121330153

maybe bad intention
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>>121330625
While I know killboards aren't everything, looks like they've welped a couple of Mach fleets the past week or two. And while I'm looking for a group that does run something like that.. Seeing that without seeing any fleet "victories" is discouraging.

But definitely gave me an option. Thanks.
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>>121331450
be the change you want to see in the world
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>>121332776
If I wanted to do that I would have stayed in my old corp and FC'd them to victory. Too much effort.

But that's too much effort.
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>not enjoying a good dogpost
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>>121333845
I prefer cat post
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Am I a ruthless pirate now?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49994535/
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>>121334275
You're a stony-eyed killer, anon.
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>tfw reporting exploits instead of abusing them silently
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>>121334656
you'll get banned if they catch you and they know you've been doing it without reporting it
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>>121329890
shadow cartel here. shadow cartel is the best lowsec blob alliance, the others are gay

snuff box is currently ruining itself with mass recruitment because they're butthurt about machariels because their cap blobbing isn't working

dead terrorists are pretty gay, don't bother

cruisers crew are/were a bunch of shitty memefaggots, so are tishu, avoid

other groups with some presence are project mayhem))), galmil, decayed orbit and death by design.
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>>121322323
here's a thing https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99005852/
I'm sure galmil think they're super elite for farming these guys
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>>121334894
I complained to support about it. Hopefully they take a while to fix it
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>>121333845
The one tat increases both Attack and Def, don' remember if it's star or POW.

Basically, every level there is one stat that is boosted more than the other, and it cycles. If you wanna have the highest rounded stats then you follow the pattern. But, character like bowser can't really utilise Special Attack Well, while Mallow and toadstool are not that good at physical attacks. So for bowser you can raise Attack/Def on Special boosted level without losing much effectiveness. Geno and Mario are mixed bags. Depends mostly on what you prefer.
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>>121337724
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>>121337724

same
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>>121337781
>>121337824

What do you guys think of SMRPG
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>you see space when docked at a citadel
Ugh, they're going to feel like capital hangars with no movement stat at this rate.
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>>121338976
I hope you can focus camera on other ships while docked. Looking forward to battles streamed by docked ships
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>>121338976
they should let you do this in stations as well
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>>121340661

yeah stations and citadels should just have both
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>still no laser nerf
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>amarr ship
>4% armor resists per level

>let's shield tank it
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>>121159631
The oracle looks pretty nice
But then again you have to try really hard to make the oracle look ugly
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>>121334656
what exploit?
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>>121187856
Yeah. Don't worry though he would last two seconds outside highsec pvp.
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>>121345069
he blops all the time.
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>>121297707
>They sound cool.
>this poor little anon never got to hear beam lasers from 4 years ago

you poor new creature
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>>121345169
blopping is not pvp
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Can I mine any ore in any site with just the default skills I got at the start? I want to do some ninja mining in WH because I'm short on the highend mats. How do the sleeper spawns work there?
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>>121345356
one player vs an other isn't pvp? wow, the more you know.
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>>121345659
getting called in to press F1 and then to get out again is not pvp
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>Scripted Warp Disruption Field Generators now Scramble, disabling MJDs and MWDs
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>>121345510
You can mine pretty safely, most sites are clear but if they're not they take twenty minutes for rats to spawn so you should be able to take up some Ark
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>>121346667
You must be a dev poster if you came that fast to post that here.
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>>121346667
>Scripted Warp Disruption Field Generators now Scramble, disabling MJDs and MWDs
oh eat shit, way to kill of battleship pvp even more, oh let me guess you're going to buff jams as well, yeah why not continue on doing so

are you kidding me
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>>121346787
How do I know which sites will spawn shit and which not?
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>>121346238
hunter killing isn't too?
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>>121347016
Alright you coy cunt

It IS technically pvp, but would you really call getting your blops bridged to kill some poor fucker in Aridia by having someone scramble him already and all you would need to do is press F1 and say gf in local? Knowing all of that, would you truly declare that 'pvp'?
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>>121346667

Dictors online :^)
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>Planetary Interface
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>>121347197
>he doesn't have planets passively shitting out coolant
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I feel the void calling me back, reawakening the space jew inside me, kinda burned myself out a bit on incursions ages ago but wouldn't mind going back before going into something more interesting, and I have no idea what. PI? Missions? Nullsec? Lowsec?

My crippled claw trembles in fear of getting back into it all.
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>>121347642
anything is fun.
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>>121347642
>PI
>Missions

god what is wrong with you. eve is about pvp and shooting the shit with your m8s, stop being a fag.
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>>121348148
I gots no m8s willing to learn EVE Online, otherwise I'd be balls deep in Low/Nullsec. Also being a bit of a faggot didn't hurt when it came do doing the other things.
>>121347781
Yes, but it's all varying degrees of such.
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>>121346667
for the longest time I always assumed bubbles disabled MWDs...
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>>121348543
And now they will. Large ships/non afterburners are so fucked when this goes through, hello offgate sniping
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>>121348969
because what eve needed was a big buff for gatecamps and afterburner/oversized afterburner faggots. gg ccp.
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>>121349223
There is no oversized AB for battleships.
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>>121349263
Well the only one who can benefit from this is the nightmare, everyone else gets fucked
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>>121348969
>hello offgate sniping

Oh my lord. A whole new level of scum.

And there will be curses with those faggy 70km heavy neut fits. The new falcon.
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>>121350258
>curses with those faggy 70km heavy neut fits.
pls no
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>CCPlease
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>>121210296

They can use Tier 1 industrials just fine.
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>emergency reboot at 12:47
I haven't seen one of those in a while.
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>>121351680
The brain is out of the box.
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>we have removed Manfred Sideous from CSM X
Who's next in line?
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>>121313435
More accurately a director that ran away from RvB to brave stole them and gave them to Brave as a gift to try and ingratiate himself with Brave leadership.
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>>121346667

ofcourse, the goons are defending this change, typical.
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>>121352712
Ay what the fuck Manny was always the tight lipped one
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>>121356550
According to that release showing who showed up at meetings he also had the lowest attendance of anyone by far

Maybe all of the "but he was active on slack" was a bunch of bullshit
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>>121357053
Old fucking le torpedo man has something like 30% attendance
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>>121090152
>amarr
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>>121357053
The attendance thing was because of different timezones. Same for wingspantt. My bet is he leaked info and got the boot
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>>121346667
oh yes. What are the new ranges after skills?
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>>121159801
>>>https://zkillboard.com/character/93103770/

autist that flies coercer exclusively
sits 30k off the plex warpin and kills shit burning to him
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>>121198168
sell it to abkiller for 1100
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>>121347182
That's ganking for you. It requires the same 0 skill as f1 blobbing but that doesn't make it not pvp.
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>>121277523
x caracal
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>>121282523
I have 1b tied up in useless items.
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>>121359775
>not bellicose
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>neut and nos changes
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>>121347182
Replacing the actual definition of PVP with some your own made up definition just makes you sound like a cocksucker.

All PVP is "real" pvp, regardless of whether it's derping around in a FW plex in frigate, approaching the fleet anchor and hitting F1 when the FC says so, ganking an untanked retriever, camping the Jita undock in a tornado or roaming in a faction battleship with links, a brain full of high grade implants and a cargo hold of strong boosters.

Moreover most fights in EVE aren't decided by actual player skill during the combat itself, the initial conditions of the fight determine the outcome most of the time.
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>>121360856
boosters aren't dishonorable m8
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>>121090152
>amarr
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>>121361037
>not amarr
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>solo pvp [dualboxed]
>>
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-economy-update-eve-vegas-2015-report/

Have fun, nerds.
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>>121361623
>ou can see some interesting and unexpected things like the fact that only 1.5% of players run Incursions and 13.8% of players engage in PVP on any given day. The former is especially interesting considering the fact that incursion payouts were the 3rd largest ISK faucet in September, at 8.3T ISK
>le incoming nerf
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>>121360929
All things that cause me to lose are dishonorable, regardless of whether or not I also use those things sometimes.
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>If we normalize it by unique logons, we rather see those numbers increasing, meaning that those playing now contribute relatively more to the sandbox than the general population in the previous years, which is a great sign

yfw dror will kill himself in your lifetime
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>>121361815
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>>121360556

>first the cap changes tank the price of officer neuts
>now this

GONNA BUY EVERY OFFICER NEUT BEFORE IT GETS REVERTED

THEYRE GONNA DROP TO NOTHING AIAIAIAII
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>>121361910
fuck that, deadspace will be way more farmable and is as good. I can't see those officer prices going up.
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>>121361712
>1.5%
>3rd largest isk faucet
>8.3T in one month

genocide incursion runners irl
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>>121362145
yeah I had no idea. I was the one here saying they're kinda ok because only a certain number of people can run them at a time, shows what I know.
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>>121361712

>incursion payouts were the 3rd largest ISK faucet in September, at 8.3T ISK

yfw someone made approximately 1/7 of this from a single highsec POSbash drop
>>
Short or long range Autocannons for PVE Rupture?
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>>121363351
Artillery sucks in PVE, use the biggest autocannons you can fit with short-range ammo
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>>121361623

>Alliance Registration Fee has a 101b 'ISK faucet' stat attached to it

What

Who's making money off alliance registration fees and how?
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>>121362230
I'm guessing they're probably the greatest single contributor to plex prices.
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>>121363926
might be refunds
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>>121364064
guess again
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>>121363926

>all that goon ratting money

Faggots, I swear to god

I'm going to assrape them to death when mobile depot refitting during battle is removed. Nothing will be able to save their pimped isktars then.
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>>121364557
>Nothing will be able to save their pimped isktars then.

Except, you know, local and intel channels.
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frigate fleet viable bellicose.
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>>121367269
except frigates don't need target painters, so all you've got is a special needs caracal
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>>121367452
>special needs caracal

Fight me.
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So module tiercide guys:

Neuts get Falloff, standard heavy neut II will reach out 30km for 300 cap drained.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6148939

HIC points getting buffed, kiters gonna get stomped without links. Scripted point disables mwd and mjd.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=454076&find=unread
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>>121361623
why did he do a moving average of a 30 day peak figure?

>>121361712
>yfw incursions and blue loot are worth more than every single isk sink in the game

>>121361815
>relatively more
fucking lol
>>
So which of the HICs will be best for ~elite pvp~ now?

Broadsword looks like it could be neat
>>
>>121368254
it's not just kiters, everyone will get stomped. if some shitter in an arazu tackles me I don't care, it does no dps and has no tank. a hic on the other hand, how exactly do I kill that before his 100 friends show up
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>>121369830
>hics
>elite pvp

nope. and onyx is better than broadsword in basically every way
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>>121369830
RLM Onyxeseses.
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>>121362440
I can only get so erect anon
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>>121370702

Your dick muscles are gonna hurt once you realize those are BPOs

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3r0gtg/39b_estimated_dropped_from_inactive_pos_in/
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>>121345032
Just the fact that the blood accelerators are still working after the patch. CCP knows already tho thanks to all the plebbitors panicking
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>>121344601
often times the shield tank is better
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>>121346934
>way to kill of battleship pvp even more
HIC's are only used in lowsec on supers, stop making shit up
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>>121364557
>>all that goon ratting money
believe it or not, that graph says bounties but that ALSO includes L4 mission running and other highsec activities.

this is evident purely because of the second highest thing that is commodities exchanging for items on the NPC market
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>https://zkillboard.com/kill/49999173/
>Shitters Cartel
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>>121371945
High sec bounties are garbo, the isk in those comes from LP
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>>121372076
>mfw top tier eutz
>mfw meme tier ustz
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>Undocking
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>>121372076
What happened to his mids?
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>>121372658
it was probably trying to refit, happens all the time on caps
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>>121372076

https://youtu.be/zoixzQV4yf0

>jumping into range of the most active shitposting alliance in game
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>>121372165
the bounties are actually worth more than the missions' rewards by a huge margin, for every one of those 4-5m isk reward missions gets you like 15-20 million in bounties, not including loot
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>>121369856
You don't be a solo kiting shitlord.
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>>121373305
but I'm not talking about kiting
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>killboard showing people firing Mjolnir missiles at Minmatar T2.
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>Shield tanking your titan
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>>121369856
people don't dumpster HIC's for shitty kills

literally nothing changes except now regardless of warp core stability on the capitals and shit can't do anything with their MWD or what ever

but what ALSO stops that from happening? a regular warp scrambler
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>>121373617
This is funny because when CCP allows rifters to tackle titans and titans have 50+ warp core strength, it doesn't fucking matter purely because one scrambler shuts off MWD, MJD, and the Jump Drive, you can't even take a jump bridge or a jump portal if you're scrammed

one rifter with a j5b scrambler is all it takes to stop a titan from using the jump drive, but it can still warp which is a big woopty do really purely because bumping a titan so hard you'll never see it leave

But all of a sudden, CCP gives focused HIC points the same scram ability and suddenly its the end of the world? bullshit, if anything this devalues the HIC because a rifter can tackle a super similarly to a HIC except at the fraction of the cost
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>>121373565
Shield tanking the ragnarok makes a better tank than armor tanking it does
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>>121374138
>it doesn't fucking matter purely because one scrambler shuts off MWD, MJD, and the Jump Drive, you can't even take a jump bridge or a jump portal if you're scrammed


how are you still this retarded
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>>121374316
Thats literally what it does

ever scramble a blops ship and it can't use its jump drive?

same thing applies to the super or titan regardless of warp core stability
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>>121374316
>how are you still this retarded
What is retarded about it? Thats how scramblers work.
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>>121374138
What do you have against rifters?
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>>121375187
CCP specifically said 50 Rifters would be able to tackle a titan, when reality it takes one and a good bumper
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>>121375291
when in reality you don't know shit
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>Isk
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>>121375291
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>>121375291
>implying they won't give titans 100 warp strength
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>>121376617
see
>>121374414
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>>121378552
sure thing bro you know all about how warp bonused capitals will work
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>>121378018
then it'll be 101 rifters with disruptors or one rifter with a scrambler to stop the titan from using its jump drive because scramblers disable all that shit
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>>121372076
Sheeeit, SC is still active? I still remember sharing a station with them in Goinard with W0Wbagger permanently out 23/7 in an undock-hugging Tengu with two logi alts. At least I think he used a Tengu. That was 4 years ago.

I should probably resub and see what's new, if the game's not ded yet.
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>>121378695
>sure thing bro you know all about how warp bonused capitals will work
If thats the way it works for literally every other ship in the game INCLUDING carriers with warp core stabs, I have no doubt in my mind thats the same way it'll work

>put warp core stabs in my lows for my archon
>+7 to war core stability
>one scrambler -2
>still +5
>can't use my MWD, Jump drive or any of it
>b-b-but I can still warp despite not being able to jump or do anything!

>n-n-no! its not gonna work that way because I said so!

you literally don't know fucking shit about how capitals operate do you?
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>>121379689
sc is pretty big atm. did you know bagger? I'm on comms with him now.
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>>121380445
when they announce that they'll be making it work like it should work, I'll be here greentexting your posts with a load of retarded stutters.
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>>121381013
nah, I was in Veto at the time, if anyone still remembers them.
We have had a few fun scuffles with SC back in the day. Say hi anyway.
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>>121381420
>I'm going to put all my hope into something that hasn't even been talked about
>when someone brings up the fact that +100 warp core strength literally won't do shit for anyone because x, y, z reasons I'll be there to shit post about how proficient I am in bullshit because "CCP wouldn't be that retarded would they?"

face it, I made a clear and obvious fact about how it works, if Supers don't have the EWAR immunity, regardless of warp core stability, it only takes 1 scrambler to shut off the jump drive.

oh but according to you I'm retarded for pointing this out and CCP will surely do it right
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>>121381469
veto were alright. verone is a laugh.
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>>121381654
That they were, and that he was.
I wish they were still around, at least then I'd have something to come back to other than a main stuck with billions in ships and stuff in an NPC corp in Syndicate.
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=454102

New nos and neut tiercide, optimal range reductions, falloff introductions
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>>121381607
They'll have e-war resistance.
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>>121384860
not against scramblers, that doesn't change shit

disabling a MWD or jump drive is either on or off, not "maybe"

reduction to ewar applies to things like sensor damps, TP's, neuts and shit however neuts aren't Ewar so...
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>>121384957
>not against scramblers
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>>121385105
What the fuck is EWAR resistance going to do to a MWD or Jump drive? let it work "sometimes"?

its either on or off, not "a little"
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>>121385175
What the fuck is EWAR resistance going to do to jams? Let it work "sometimes?

It's either on or off, not "a little".
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>>121385105
>my scrambler's strength is reduced from 2 to 1, but nothing really changes, my MWD doesn't work and I can't escape because I'm still scrambled
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>>121383670
so it changes nothing except make ewar ships even more powerful than before?
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>>121385276

jams already worked based on percentage, adding another resistance percentage doesn't change how they function at all
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>>121385368
their optimal were reduced, so you aren't going to get super fucked for full effect at the ranges you had before, with falloff they can engage as far as they target but won't really take into effect until a good ways closer

IMO its a nerf
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>>121385564
Do you have spoken statements by CCP to back this up? Or are you just guessing with zero confirmation like people have been telling you from the start?
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>>121385572
imo it's not
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>>121385564
I meant to say Scrams and their effect of disabling warp and jump modules.

Jams change to work would be reduced of course, but I imagine everyone would put their EC-300's on the super and because there are so many coin flips going off at once the super would be permanently jammed to like a mere 30 EC-300's similar to how regular carriers can be so stupidly easily jammed by the ewar drones
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>>121385572
It's a pretty big buff honestly. They're no longer hard capped at a certain range.
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>>121385572
Heavy neut curse will now get 72+24 with a faction neut (now 82). How is that not a buff?
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>>121385681

do you actually know anything about eve or are you just trying to shitpost
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>>121385853
but their effectiveness was reduced, which IMO was the nerf

no longer do you really have those 80km Fleet curses fucking over one ship, its more like its at 80km but you're hitting him at falloff so instead of clobbering him for like 2400gj neutralized, its like 1200 because falloff

this doesn't help the curse and its raw alpha at those ranges
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>>121386183
Do you know anything about CCP are you just trying to shitpost? You have 0 confirmation that this is how it works, on a COMPLETELY new mechanic that was tailor made to not make nullblobs too butthurt. If people are suddenly able to waterboard super fleets with trash interceptors than mittens will take this money and leave.
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>>121386209
Wait, effectiveness is reduced? I thought it was just 'hit chance' like with damps or ECM. Alright then I agree it's a mild nerf
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>>121385681
Do you even know how jams work?

if my ECM has a 3.5 strength to it and I attack a target that has a 20 Sensor Strength, that means I have a 17.5% chance of jamming him

thats how jams work you dumb faggot, thats the way they've worked since jams came out
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>>121386367
>Wait, effectiveness is reduced?
yes there is no missing with a neut

the falloff effect is reduced effectiveness on the neut

so if you have a neut that has a 10km range + 5km falloff, 10km you'll neut for full effectiveness, and at 15km you'll neut for half effectiveness
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>>121386363

so just a shitposting retard

got it

jams aren't new and their mechanics are well known
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>>121386532
They should apply all falloff types in the same way imo. Way more balanced
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>>121386532
This is a buff specifically to carriers and supers that use neuts though

it used to be that HIC's could use their focused points from over 30km with the HIC skill to 4 or 5, which means carriers and supers NEEDED to have a officer neut to neut out the HIC if the HIC sits at beyond 30km

>>121386689
they already do, sensor damps, Jams, and TP's work the same way, so do tracking disruptors

if you have a sensor damp that has a 30km optimal and +15km to falloff, you damp for full effectiveness at 30km, and damp for half effectiveness at 45km
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>>121386620
So just a shitposting retard

got it

E-war resistance is a new, and it's mechanics aren't well known.
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>resistance
gee if only there was a similar mechanic that exists so we could figure out how something called the same thing works.
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>>121387007
and I bet you thought MJDs would work like normal jump drives right?
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>>121386834
>E-war resistance is a new, and it's mechanics aren't well known.
if I have a 50% resistance to a sensor damp

the sensor damp works half as well, so if the damp hits me for 50% my targeting range, then thats really 25%

if some guy TP's me, instead of blooming my sig radius by 30%, with my 50% resistance its only 15%

Jams? same shit, if a jam has a 25% chance of jamming me and I have a 50% resistance, that chance to jam is 12.5% instead

god damn they went over this at fanfest you fuck
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>being new
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>>121387149
>empty speculation

Ready to admit you don't actually know how it works yet?
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>>121387317

>math
>empty speculation

i should have known we were dealing with a woman
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>>121386827
>they already do, sensor damps, Jams, and TP's work the same way, so do tracking disruptors
Nope. Ewar falloff doesn't work like turret falloff.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/EWAR_Guide#Hit_Chance

>It should be noted that while these modules don't have to worry about tracking, they do have a chance to 'miss.' If the target is outside your optimal range your chance to miss will depend on the target's range and your module's falloff. See Optimal and Falloff.

>For example, say your target painter has an optimal of 25km and a falloff of 50km. Your target painter will always work within 25km. If your target is at 75km (25+50), you have a 50% chance of missing. This means either the 25% signature radius bonus will apply or not. It doesn't mean that the bonus is reduced by 50%.
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>>121386827
>they already do
Are you sure? How the hell did I miss that, I fly nothing but ewar
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>>121387317
>speculation

This is literally how they explained it at fanfest you nigger, god damn did you even watch the keynote about it or anything?

they literally said "supers no longer have EWAR immunity and instead have EWAR resistance where EWAR modules are only half as effective against the target
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>>121387538
Yeah so obviously at the very least it will take TWO scramblers to disable to a jump drive. By your own admission.
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>>121387107
Exactly. MJDs could work like webs for all we know.
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>>121387490
that is how turret falloff works though
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>>121387607
No, because scramblers either do On or Off, there is no "inbetween" if one scrambler has the ability then it just does

how do you reduce Ewar from an on or off, to a "half" or "maybe"?
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>>121387612
No, they will definetely work like the normal jump drives on a smaller scale. You will teleport to a cyno of your choosing inside of system. This is how CCP made jump drives work, it's how they will work now.
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>>121387506

how

i'm brand fucking new and noticed that almost immediately
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>>121387782
read >>121387490
he's wrong, for ewar it affects hit chance. Neuts will be the exception
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>>121387736
Let's say there is other a 1 or 0 for "turns off Jump drive/mwd/mjd" . Where 1 is "turns it off", everything else does not. Divide 1 by half and tell me if it's still one.
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>>121387680
No, if you shoot something at the edge of turret falloff you don't miss half your shots and do full damage with the other half, you just do crap damage with all of them.
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>>121387890

no, it only affects hit chance for ecm, everything else is % reduction when into falloff
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>>121388083
This is false, check the e-uni article on gun damage
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>>121388127
I'm not going to bother testing it when my experience and e-uni say otherwise. Feel free to target paint an alt in falloff and check whether you get full effect or miss every now and then.
hint:the latter
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>>121388083
I thought you got worse hits and some misses
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>>121388318
decreased effect*, not 'full'. derp

>>121388328
That's exactly what happens yes. For guns there is 'hit quality' and then 'hit chance'. Both combined give you the final damage.
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>>121387764
lol teleporting inside a system that's a good one. MJDs will definitley not work like jump drives.
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>>121388318

i fly damp ships almost exclusively, you don't miss while in falloff ever, the target gets a lower range reduction penalty
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>>121388570
No don't be stupid, they'll work like this mechanic we ALREADY HAVE that is a jump drive. It will involve cynos, it will remove 80% of your cap, this is a FACT.
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>>121388665
Yeah I get it micro means that it's like the opposite of a jump drive and it doesn't involve jumping you anywhere. Imagine if instead of cynos they had like a spool up timer or something crazy and like you could only teleport a very micro distance that wouldn't make any sense at all.
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>>121388593
Just tried it on sisi, it misses. pwnd
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>>121389207
Bullshit, that's nothing like any mechanic that currently exists. Stop trolling, do you even know how this game works?
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>>121389327

naa
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what faction to join to find fights in fw?

I only see 20+ blobs and stabbed farmers.
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>>121389328
Teleporting is brand new now? I'm confused do you think MJDs will involve teleporting like how JDs do or not? Either it's similar or it's not. My bet is the jump drive part = teleporting. But hey maybe you'll be right and jump drive = completely unrelated to teleporting.
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>>121389698
Tengoo
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>>121389698
to increase your chances of finding fights you don't join fw, you just go there and kill everyone you find. of course, this means you aren't making as much money - but you can still make loot money.
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>>121389795
"spool up timer" what kind of bullshit is this? You just made it up. It will work like current jump drives on a micro scale, you'll need cynos obviously, and jump fuel.
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>>121389923
>on a micro scale
>cynos, jump fuel
doesn't sound very micro at all
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>underappreciated cat posts
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>cats
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>dogs
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>catposting
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>give PL trillion isk of prize ships
>remove PL member from CSM not even banning him for breaking NDA
lmao how keked are CCP by PL
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>mallerposting
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>>121390914
They literally just banned manny to save face. They revealed all that shit already because some CCP employees got shitfaced.
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>>121390914
>>121391093

what happened?
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>>121391264
see >>121352712
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>>121391264
>CCP devs get wasted
>leak a shitload of information at EVEamsterdam
>Leeloo damage controls desperately and pins it all on manny
>meanwhile she's already getting ready to make sure another one of her russian friends gets a CSM seat again next year.
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>>121391093
sure thing they'd remove a PL csm member for nothing.
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>>121391359

that doesn't say what happened

>>121391406

what info?
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>>121391406
>Implying dev leaks wouldn't be posted everywhere the second they open their mouths
Nice damage control friendo :^)
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>>121391463
>CSM is almost over
>CCP desperate to save face
>they've literally never banned anyone for this in years even though it happens ALL THE TIME over and over again with every single CSM member.
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>>121391491
>what info
>he doesn't have a CSM to leak him info
pleb pls
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>>121391686

sorry, i'm not in goons, i don't have the luxury of rmt and insider information
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>>121391626
that barely even qualifies as spin m8. You're saying that CCP picked on poor little PL in a moment of panic. Are you high or something? They practically invited Manny onto the CSM and now you think they'd just piss all over him because of drunk devs. L O L get a grip.
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>>121391626
Save face for what? There was no drama about leaks and no one was expecting kicks or investigations. CCP had 0 need to damage control unlike PL. You got caught, get over it
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>>121392249
>leaks are super well known from CSM, mittens tacitly admits to it all the time
>every major bloc conveniently announces sweeping changes to how they'll do things within hours of a dev blog
>no one gets banned from CSM
>Leelo is corrupt as fuck and campaigns for her friends all the time
>but this time, CCP is totally being honest and just banning someone who leaked I swear :^)
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>I'm in goons
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>I'm in an NPC corp and I roam with squadmates I select from a variety of corporations.
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>>121392456
>everyone is corrupt nobody gets banned
>someone gets banned
>they are probably innocent
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>>121367269
thank you for the fit
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All the fleets I have been in people never seem to understand that you need to stay passive aligned at all times.

Then when they die after not being able to warp out in time they bitch and say its my fault.

Fuck you buddy, learn the damn game mechanics.
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>>121394689
1/10
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>deadspace heavy neuts
>92km optimal curse
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>All hics get a 38km scram
>CCP countering orthrus with even more stupid shit
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>>121397362
nerfing is the poor mans form of balance
>+50 hull
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Shield incursion fleets or armor?
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>>121397815
The one that allows you to have more dmg mods obviously.
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>>121397815
shield
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>>121363926
>>121361623
top three of ISK faucets
>bounty prizes
I may have underestimate the extent of null ratting
>Market
shlomo.jpg
oh wait NPC buy orders, goes with ^
>incursions
nobody's surprise

why is eve considered a PVP game anyway? desu I don't PvP aswell, miner/indy here
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>>121398489
The commodities faucet is probably 90% wormhole escalations
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>passive align
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>No pvp arenas yet
Should I even bother resubbing?
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>>121399453
Closest you will find are faction warfare and dueling faggots in highsec market hubs.
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I'm going to buy a citadel and use it to host elite solo PvP tournaments. People can dock in the thing to spectate and you can doomsday anyone who breaks rules. Thoughts?
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>>121400268
I'm going to destroy your citadel
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>>121399916
>be me not you
>on my tristan heading null
>some highsec faggot duels me
>ok
>docks up and undocks a machariel
>typical highsec retard, he can't even track me
>hes too afraid to leave undock range
>get his shield mach to armor after a year and killing his lights
>he de-aggros and docks up
>starts to shitalk on local
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>>121400268
sounds good but how can you enforce fitting rules and boundaries
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Would I get banned if I use a glitch that bugs up an enemy's ship movements so they can't move?
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>>121400268
You can doomsday non-capitals? Or is a it a capital only duel arena?
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>>121396693
they'll be very expensive for a long while due to low supply
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>>121398489
>I may have underestimate the extent of null ratting
there are more people running level 4 missions and getting bounties off of that, a lot of those level 4 mission rats are the same rats you shoot in nullsec, I'd put my money on that Level 4 mission bounties are the highest isk generator for that category
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>>121401039
You can doomsday the following ships
>other titans
>supers
>carriers
>dreads
>rorquals
>freighters
>Jump freighters
>Orcas
>bowheads
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>>121403063
just no
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>>121403782
I'm right, there are more L4 mission runners than there are all ratters in nullsec
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>>121403871
nullsec pays out 3-4x as much per hour so
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>>121404078
not really, an L4 mission can give off as much as 20m in bounties, they don't take long to do. If you look at the NPC store section and see how much LP goes through there

the only real way to know is if CCP would make a better graph and separate bounties based on source,
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>used to play EVE years ago
>caldari account, did missions with drake, got a raven, did missions with the raven
>always enjoyed EVE's music and scenery
>played for about a year. never got into low or nullsec
>always noticed EVE threads here are all about low/nullsec
>used to play games all the time but stopped years ago
>don't play any games anymore (besides puzzle and dragons rank 386)
>over the years always debate resubbing to EVE just to train skills and not really play at all
>make shit $$$ irl because I played too much WoW in college
>kinda want to play EVE again, but also know if I get into an MMORPG right now it'll be a death sentence for my future trying to become a computer programmer

Are there a set of skills I can train up which will allow me to play EVE rewardingly without needing to play EVE itself that much? Something that takes less time than running missions and salvaging the loot; something like collecting gas in low/nullsec, or exploring? Something where you need the skills to be highly trained, but once they are, I can go out and make a nice amount of ISK?

Even though I played for over a year I was always a noob. I'd like to be able to throw a skill on the queue and set my calendar, then come back a week later to put a new skill on the queue and maybe play for ~2 hours.
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>>121403063
>>121371945
>it's L4s goys
>Agent mission reward and Agent time mission reward listed just below

spot the shill
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>>121404963
>>Agent mission reward and Agent time mission reward listed just below
the mission rewards has nothing to do with the bounties

you get easily 4-5 times the bounties as you do a mission reward stop being an idiot
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>>121404293
>but also know if I get into an MMORPG right now it'll be a death sentence for my future trying to become a computer programmer

they say this game is played more out of client that in-game proper

I've experienced this game is boring to death if played 24h7, I know nobody that does corp full of normies REEEEE
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>>121405310
And that would be around 1/3rd if every mission bounty was worth 10 times, which is on the higher side.
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>>121404293
>2 hours
Just no you're only wasting your time. Here's a better idea find an old game you used to like and play it for 15mins then go do something else. Hell play fucking minesweeper or something. But 2 hours for an MMO is just not going to happen.

>>121404272
>2013
>290mil npcs killed in top hisec region
>80mil in Deklein
>2015
>150mil npcs killed in top hisec region
>120mil in Deklein

>i-it's level 4 missions that are the problem not 0 risk nullsec ratting
lol you're better than sub humans great job goon fag. coming 2016: at least we aren't miners - mittani$$ biography
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>trying to become a computer programmer
Just study for chef, you'll thank me
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>>121407898

as a former cook who's going back to school for something else

don't be a cook unless you like high stress, low wages, shit hours, backstabbing faggots and being surrounded by shitskins
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>>121408540
pretty much the same as programming then?
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>>121408658
but more drugs, lots more drugs
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>>121406050
>0 risk nullsec ratting
jesus its like you guys just make shit up, its not riskless you faggot, they've established their network and it was reinforced by fozziesov
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>>121409042
I already did all the drugs and I'm still disappointing my superiors along with everyone else.
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>>121391406
>>121391093

thanks, alcohol
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>>121409160
>they
You're not fooling anyone shitlord
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>>121409350
>hurr durr my made up presumption that it was riskless when really because of phoebe changes, the system is reinforced because you can't hot drop anything in that region plus the fact that every carrier in there has a cyno on it to cyno in massive fucking amounts of supers to wipe the field.
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>>121409350
Carriers get dunked in there all the time who the fuck are you fooling.
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>>121409524
>>121409667
goons, not even once
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>>121409841
>Despite carriers dying in there all the time and the fact that the area is hardened by their network of supers, I'm going to call it "riskless" then accuse the people disagreeing with me "goons"
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>>121409961
>carriers dying all the time
>the area is hardened
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>>121410608
Its not a contradiction, you have to be in range of the super system to actually get that support, all of deklein isn't in range
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>>121410793
so only a part of deklein is making it the 3rd most popular pve region in the entire game, including hisec. Wow that's even worse. How many bots are you guys running to put up those kinds of numbers?
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>>121411339
>so only a part of deklein is making it the 3rd most popular pve region in the entire game, including hisec
I didn't say that
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So legion is dead. CCP are going to sell SP and citadels are 6 months away. Is it time to burn through my isk now before the game is over.
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>>121412626
>Is it time to burn through my isk now before the game is over.
It was always time.
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>>121412626
Yes give me your money or assets
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>>121412626
Citadels probably won't show up for months after they're released purely because you have to find a buyer for a BPO, the buyer then has to make copies or do research, these things take fuck loads long ass time
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>>121412626
pandemic legion?
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>>121413840
EVE Legion was an IP that CCP was working on but they cancelled the project
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>>121406050
thanks 4 bringing me 2 my senses now back 2 working with php
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>>121413840
Project legion. It was supposed to be the PC version of Dust, which is another dead game along with that vampire thing they had to sell off recently. Basically CCP aren't doing so hot and no matter how Valkyrie goes I think EVE will get messed with heavily and I don't want to be sitting on 20bil isk when they go f2p or some other wacky hail mary.
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>>121414019
It was cancelled?

Oh well, its CCP's own fault if they refuse to work on anything not EVE
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>>121414502
They cancelled it because of lack of popularity, same thing with their other game called "Dark universe" or what ever, they were working on other titles but because of lack of popularity they decided not to fund it

actually they just sold off both of those games to some other guy that left CCP I can't remember who
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I'm glad they sold that vampire shit to those devs, ccp gets money and it gets put in the hands of another developer group (who are apparently pretty neat)
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>>121414675
They the sold white wolf to paradox
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>>121417271
dust is dead?
aw. It seemed cool
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>>121417518
It was just so retarded to try and make it a console game. They cut off their main audience to try and get in on a player base that wont give a shit as soon as the next COD is out
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>>121418034
i just read the wikipedia page and apparently:

"
Despite having mixed critical reception, CEO of the publisher CCP Games Veigar Pétursson revealed in March 2015 that the company is very satisfied with the sales of the game, saying that "Dust 514 is a profitable business of the company."
"
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>>121418586
it really is despite how little attention it gets

the game is F2P, full of microtransactions and the server costs and maintenance probably isn't that much at all since so little changes in it
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TIL Waffles takes themselves way too seriously.

Why does there not seem to be a middle ground between sperglords and super serious business?
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>>121418586
>>121420043
then why did Dust fags just make a montage of literal crying over their game being dead
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>>121421128
because like eve the game is very niche
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so i'm leaving my alliance, i need a new home but no place looks worth a shit
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>>121421109
>TIL
Please go back to leddit.
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>>121421128
it's probably losing players as the console becomes more obsolete
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>>121421109
>TIL Waffles takes themselves way too seriously.
how?

They don't take any bullshit, why did you join them not knowing this?
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>>121421440
lmao no it's not. It's a shitty console shooter that's dead and CCP can't be bothered shutting it down because it would be really fucking bad PR.
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>>121422190
>lmao no it's not.
the entire gameplay mechanic and skill system is just like EVE, when you die, you lose your shit and gear, and you gain SP passively also actively by contract in game

Players may not like that and by that default, its originality is niche
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Got a new graphics card. First time I've ever been able to play with shaders on.

I want to cry.
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>>121422190
>It's a shitty console shooter that's dead and CCP can't be bothered shutting it down because it would be really fucking bad PR.
Its obviously not dead if its making them money
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>>121421109

is this the same guy that was trying to find a lowsec group earlier
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>>121421957
I didn't join them. I thought about joining them. Talked to a recruiter. Decided I didn't want to join after the "interview", and then was banned from their pub channel.

The exclusive club mentality and the "Convince me to accept you" is BS. I'd think recruiters would share a mutual interest in getting people to join, telling me "I'm not convinced yet, but we'll see".. Why the fuck would I want to join a corp that doesn't want me?
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>>121422731
Yeah, it is. When I asked that question the only group that seemed to be a good match was waffles, but after talking to them.. Guess not.
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>>121422902
>Decided I didn't want to join after the "interview", and then was banned from their pub channel.
you must have done something more than this, they don't just ban people from their pub channel

>the exclusive club menality
they don't want shitters, they want people who aggressively play the game and aren't fucking retards

>its bullshit

then don't join them if you don't like it

You do have to convince them you aren't entitled to be in their corp if you just apply with no real sound of not being a shitter
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>>121423054
obviously you're a shitter if you didn't get in, they don't want meme spewing idiots, you also can't rat in their corp on the active PVP main which means you either plex for your money or use an alternate alt for it
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>>121422541
>literally believing Hilmar
You're genuinely retarded. Like I feel bad for you.
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>Orthrus are overpowered especially with RLML so we're going to punish small and solo players whether they are kiters or brawlers

impeccable logic, thanks ccp
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>>121423431
>believing they aren't making a profit on it
if they said they were then they most likely are they don't just say shit like that for no reason
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>>121423440
what happened?
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>>121423495
He said it weeks before firing half their work force.
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>>121423660
this
>>121346667
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>>121423290
It's not that I didn't get in, it's that I no longer wanted to join. I got the recruitment mail to send APIs, but after the interview I no longer wanted to join. I'm not a meme spewing idiot or a super serious business guy, which is why I have so few options. Way to assume things?

>>121423147
"My interest in joining has gradually waned the more we've talked. From you jerking me around with joking recruitment scams, undock and fight, to questioning the politics of the corp I'm leaving, to putting the full burden of interest on to me. I was under than impression that a reciter would have interest in recruiting people as well, rather than being "unconvinced". And while I don't the idea of avoiding this option because of one bad interaction there's plenty more in EVE to do. Thanks for your time"

"Fuck off" *ban*
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>>121423890
Do you realize how one shitter can ruin a fleet for the rest? Not to say you are but that's why they have standards. Once you get to a point in this game you want to play with people as good or better than yourself.
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>>121422420
Damn.
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>>121423865
how does that make things like kitey and brawly shit bad when the orthrus is OP?

>>undock and fight
yes they expect you to do this, its a raw PVP corp
>questioning the politics of the corp I'm leaving
they want to know why you don't want to be in their corp
>putting the full burden of interest on me
YES they want people who are intrested in waffles, waffles doesn't look for people people look for waffles
> I was under than impression that a reciter would have interest in recruiting people as well,
assumptions makes an ass out of you yourself alone
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>>121423440
It mainly fucks kiters and desu and I'm fine with that
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>>121424797
It fucks over everybody. Yes kiters should have something dealt against them but for the brawling type of players they are royally fucked, in particular large ships
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>>121423827
[citation needed]
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>>121423890
The reason they only want aggressive not shit players is because one guy can fuck up an entire fleet

one guy puts a bubble in the wrong place can fuck the entire fleet

just had a guy yesterday who tried to bubble a stilletto and the FC saw it and wondered why the fuck he did that

so after the shitter gave a shit reason, FC kicked him from fleet for bubbling the gate and the entire fleet for a fuckin stilletto
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>>121424417
What does that have to do with being an entitled faggot when recruiting?
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>>121424797
I thought these filters were just for Halloween
desu kek sjw baka senpai
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>>121425058
they don't want entitled shitters
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>>121425058
Because you benefit from being in Waffles but they don't really benefit from you joining.
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>bunch of goonies talking about rmt on their show

i like how they don't even hide it anymore
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>>121424529
I guess you would have to understand the context of the "undock and fight" and "corp politics", while yes "why are you leaving your previous corp and expectation to be active are understanding parts of an interview, that wasn't the context of either of these statements.

>they want people who are intrested in waffles
No they don't. I was interested. The recruiter showed he wasn't interested yet sent me a recruitment application anyway. It's at that point that I decided I not longer wanted to join.

>assumptions
It's not an assumption, it's a recruiters job to recruit people that would be beneficial. It should be in their interest to do so, that's why they exist in the first place.

I'm not upset that I had to change my mind about them. I'm just stating the fact that I did. I thought waffles was a chill group. I learned that you must convince their recruiters that your worth accepting.

The fact that I'm not willing to grovel and stroke my ego is the reason I decided not to join. Which is why I'm still looking for a balance between sperg and elite(between DNG and Snuff). I thought that was Waffles.

>>121425492
>they don't really benefit from you joining.
Having an extra active (non-shitter) member isn't benefiting the alliance? What?
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>>121424913
fuck off you lazy cunt this isn't reddit
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>>121426586
I don't get this meme
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>>121426145
>No they don't. I was interested.
obviously you weren't because you changed your mind

>the recruiter wasn't interested
he doesn't have to be

>assumption
>I made an assumption
>its not an assumption
what you made WAS an assumption. Waffles doesn't need you, it doesn't want people who change their mind.

>stroke my ego
its shit like that they'll not want you for, its just your demeanor and attitude, they don't want people like you

I genuinely believe the recruiter didn't want you and you're not telling the whole story
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>elite peeveepee
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>>121426727
I genuinely believe he didn't want me either, THAT IS WHY I changed my mind.

>obviously you weren't because you changed your mind
For me to have changed my mind.. To go from wanting to join. to not wanting to join, I had to start by.. wanting to join.
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>>121426145
>Having an extra active (non-shitter) member isn't benefiting the alliance? What?
Thats not what he meant

They don't benefit from individuals and individualism, the corp has a couple obvious rules and expects you to participate in their endeavors
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>>121426954
>THAT IS WHY I changed my mind.
maybe he saw that you were an indecisive shitter and showed no interest regardless

you know they have many different recuiters you could have gone to any of them
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>>121426883
>highsec pvp
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>>121426145
Will you say which corp/alliance you left?

Also that is nothing compared to apping to an elite corp
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>>121426645
I'd say someone who can't use a search engine doesn't get much of anything.
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>>121427117
>you know they have many different recuiters you could have gone to any of them
I was hoping another recruiter would step in or convo me. But reason being, their MOTD asks for you to not convo recruiters. The entire chat happened in their pub channel.

>>121427326
>Will you say which corp/alliance you left?
I'd prefer not.

>Also that is nothing compared to apping to an elite corp
True. I've seen some corps questionnaires and requirements that are super eleet. My expectation was that waffles was more on the chill end of the spectrum than the eleet end. That may actually be the case, depending on what recruiter you happen to be talking to.
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>>121427940
>I was hoping another recruiter would step in or convo me.
thats not their responsibility stop assuming shit
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>>121424529
whoah what, what does have to do with my statement
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>>121427940
>their MOTD asks for you to not convo recruiters.
SEND THEM A FUCKING MESSAGE USE YOUR DAMN NOGGIN
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>>121427940
>But reason being, their MOTD asks for you to not convo recruiters.
why don't you just send them a message and wait till they're online? add them to your watch list and shit its not that hard

>>121428130
forgot to add the other quote

originally it was what does the HIC changes have to do with orthruses and brawler shit?
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>>121428326
oh, well they are giving the HIC that change because people got tired of being kited. which is fine, but it sweeps other players who aren't kiters in the same bucket as well. this is a massive counter to them. Sansha ships should be safe however
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>>121428429
>well they are giving the HIC that change because people got tired of being kited
no one is gonna undock a HIC for a fucking orthrus, HIC's are made and used for tackling supers, who the hell thinks thats gonna happen?
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>>121427526
Finding a non existing quote sure will be easy :^)
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>>121428583
with these new changes I can see them far more popular for more than just tackling orthrus and kiting ships

this is a free guarantee to prevent ships from escaping your gang, you didn't necessarily had that beforw
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>>121428429
They are giving the hic that change because they are garbage with 1 niche use that will disappear in spring
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>>121428035
How.. is me saying I hoped another recruiter would intervene translate to "I assumed another recruiter would intervene "? I did my best not to call you an idiot when you said I wasn't interested in joining, but somehow changed my mind not to join. But you're not the brightest crayon in the box.

>SEND THEM A FUCKING MESSAGE
I would have possibly done this in the future, as I stated I hate for one bad interaction to ruin the option on joining them, but after being banned from someone with a lot of say, little late for that.
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>>121428723
>with these new changes I can see them far more popular for more than just tackling orthrus and kiting ships
nah, they're too expensive and useless for people to undock them for shit
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>>121428785
>How.. is me saying I hoped another recruiter would intervene translate to "I assumed another recruiter would intervene "?
because you literally said "I was hoping another recruiter would step in" is literally making the assumption that they do that, which they don't.
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>>121428723
It still won't prevent ships deagressing and jumping gates, or neutralizing the hics the same way you deal with recons.... ewar
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>>121428781
I wouldn't say they're garbage, I'd just say they aren't cost efficient for what they are compared to destroyer interdictors

>>121428860
when ship prices are this cheap I guarantee they're going to be more popular, and these buffs will only guarantee so more, since large gangs could affort a devoter or two now

Maybe I'm overreacting, but this doesn't sit easy with me.
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>>121429054
Sure, and now they'll have a clear role. Heavy interdiction :^) They're still fairly slow and the infinipoint comes with downsides
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>>121428785
Maybe Waffles is just too good for you and you're indecisive and shitty to make all these assumptions but not the gall enough to go out and do it
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>all this shilling for a feeder corp
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Inb4 we post to 800 before someone's willing to make a new thread. Fucking lazybums.
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>people seriously want to get involved with anything from goonswarm/sniggwaffle/whatever or anything SA related

needn't I remind you that mittani wrote gundam fanfics
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>he unironically joined the feeder corp known as Waffles 'home of the keks'
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>>121430267
>waah why should I have to climb a ladder to get into high end corps because they use it as a shit sifter
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>>121430470
I don't care about any of your shallow ambitions or climbing whatever ladder, I just find it completely hilarious you're willing to join them
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>>121430267
sniggwaffe. waffles are PL
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>>121430574
I want a lot of aggressive PVP and I get it every single day of any hour I log on
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>>121414184
>php
please, family. go play with angular, django or ruby, better use of your time
unless php is your job

also i'd really appreciate getting a pastebin of this interview. redact names if you want.

new thread is baking
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>>121430647
Wow, what a difference

>>121430714
Good for you, as do I
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Gate is green, all fleet take the gate

>>121431847
>>121431847
>>121431847
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>>121404293
you can pay your monthly sub in a few days of exploring, and you can do it with a brand new character's skillset (scanning skills, nothing else).
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