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/4ccg/ - Our Savior Edition

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Previous thread: >>120977732

>Main Page:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>FAQ:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

>Pastebin containing relevant info:
http://pastebin.com/pkVWgKxm

>Videos:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>2015 Autumn Babby Cup:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2015_4chan_Autumn_Babby_Cup
Match days: Oct 23-25, Oct 30-Nov 1, Nov 6-8, Nov 14-15

Schedule for Matchday 7:

/jp/ - /int/
/d/ - /w/
/k/ - /v/
/wg/ - /vg/
/trv/ - /po/
/vp/ - /pol/
/lgbt/ - /c/
/x/ - /out/
/gif/ - /biz/

>/vg/ League 5 (seriously you fucking retards why have this bullshit NOW?):
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_5

Previously:
Shitposting
PROMOTIONS
Usual /vg/ League bullshit
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Reminder that /r9k/ is in the 2016 Winter Cup
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1st for fuck you OP /vg/ league is cool
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>>121076281
3rd for /c/!
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Reposting from last thread:

>>121076293
Yep, as my understanding of it goes you can sign up first, provide proof of interest and verification later.
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>>121076526
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>>121076526
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>>121076787
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4 spots! I'm praying right now.

>MCBob
Okay
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Holy shit Gman give it a rest
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>>121077383
>tfw can't sign up the other general I want to play even though we want to play because I manage another team
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/utg/ is going to win and no one can prove me wrong
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>>121076528
Thanks, I signed them up, Idk if people are going to support me though since /dsg/ is basically shitposting general
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>>121077745

Their manager doesn't have PES
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>>121077383
5
>/4ccg/
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>>121077745
>/utg/
I swear to god if I draw them I'm pulling all the stops to wreck the living shit out of them.
Homosuck is mulp-tier cancer that should be fucking banned.
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>>121077004
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>>121077383
Speaking if that, the council is heavily enforcing general support this time around, so PLEASE include a link (live or archive) that shows where you posted. If more than half of the council does not accept your link as the general wanting to play, we will have to deny you.

Or put you on the waitlist if we end up with less than 32 teams.
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>>121077687
what general?
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nth for /po/-tan
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Who are the major generals who haven't signed up yet?
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>>121078343
You might see in a little bit.
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>>121078417
/4ccg/
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>>121078417
/agdg/ i think
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>>121078295
Yes. That's why I'm panicking. Last post that show question regarding this is from 8 minutes ago and now there are only 3 spots left
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Hey new /dsg/ guy, what are your opinion on the holocaust?
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>>121078478
I hope so i saw some post in Fate/Grand Order with people talking about making a team, didn't go anywhere by the looks of it
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>>121078728
Hitler did 9/11
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>>121078874
No, Bob Ross did.
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>>121078918
Is this a fact? Did he blow up the happy little buildings?
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Fashionably late-th for girls loving girls
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>only 6 new generals
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>>121078794
Is that the Fatefags general? Will Tohsaka's Anus finally make it to a cup?
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>>121077828
Can't you get it in your head that /dsg/ doesn't want to join the VGL? Its been three threads now that you've posted about it and each time you got told to fuck off.
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>>121079097
Ive only posted about VGL in the latest thread, I literally just got home from vacation today
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>>121079093
Considering they didn't signup or have interest by the looks of it, i guess no, it wont.
and pretty sure its more about evil cat and dragon dick
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>>121078714
So this is what Fang feels like
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>>121079256
Post Skype and we can get this sorted out in a few hours when I come home from work
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>>121079256
Still fuck off
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you are (you)
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>>121079565
>Waaahhh le Gayman team is gonna be managed by someone who isn't Rarifag WAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
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>tfw /4ccg/ is the only general I really browse, but still support many VGL teams because I like their games
>tfw all of them are going to crash and burn horribly because of the chucklefucks in charge
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>>121078794
It's actually Raibus.
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>>121078295
There's currently exactly one guy talking with me in my general who really wants to be in, but the rest of the general doesn't seem to care either way. Does that qualify as enough support?
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Honestly, /dsg/ won't get in because I've looked through their general and there is absolutely no positive response
Sorry guy(s)
t. Council Member
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>>121079980
No
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>>121079775
>tfw half the game generals I like don't do it anymore
Ripip /pdg/, /civ4x/, /wotg/
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>>121080170
>/pdg/
le OaB faec
>/civ4xg/
>implying they'd ever git gud and do something other than get slaughtered
>/wotg/
Gonna miss that tank and the slav music
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Post toucans near you.
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>>121079775
Every general I support had their tactics made by non-4ccg personnel.
Yay, I guess.
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>>121080443
n-no mercs!
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http://implyingrigged.info/w/index.php?title=%2Fvg%2F_League_5_Signups&type=revision&diff=45658&oldid=45657
Gas the manager(s)
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>/ksg/
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I saw in the /@/ thread linked on the wiki that their manager was asking for someone who could port their models. I wouldn't mind doing it, but it would depend on wether or not /jp/ advances to Winter
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>>121079563
dsg.ThreadGuy
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>>121080984
fuck you gay_wanker :^)
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>>121081839
I can put models into PES. There was someone in /@/ who was ripping them out of the idolmaster games, that's what I'd need help with.
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>>121082918
Oh, I don't actually know about that. Carry on then.
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>/4ccg/ not allowed in the VGL
Enjoy having no Aesthetics, I quit
##psycho-pass
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>>121083310
There's something extremely wrong with that gif
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>>121083310
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>>121083310
testing just to be sure
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>>121083529
>>121083539
Newfags
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>>121083529
>>121083539
Newfags to be desu
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>>121083464
No there isn't
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>>121083464
it's magical ^:)
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aesthetics ain't free. the /ag/L gotta be litterd with the shitposts of /4ccg/. GEORGE W. (BUSH) aka gw is not my commish. he is gay casual and probably merc as well :DD
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You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
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>>121083464
is the : doing moving in a diferent angle
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>>121083895
I agree, and also think that benis :DDDDD
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>>121084079
That's just an optical illusion
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>>121084414
What's there to see here?
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>>121084637
She can spin both clockwise and counterclockwise.

A good way to trick your eyes into making her spin on the other direction is to cover her body with your hand or something and just concentrate on her feet and the reflection
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>>121084637
It can look like its spinning clockwise or counter-clockwise depending on how your brain decides to interpret it. You can make it "switch" directions even though it's the same looping image.
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>>121085404
>lark
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/aa2g/, I don't think you wanted to overwrite Lear's signup.
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Lark is such a merc it's astonishing
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>>121085703
He actually plays roguelikes, though.
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Who's your favorite new VGL5 team?

rootan for /aceg/
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>>121085837
this desu
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>/aa2g/ also in
>they still run those retarded LB-CB-RB tactics
Jesus fucking Christ that's yet another general for a game I like that's going to crash and burn.
I wish I could pull off a Durgen and get these teams in shape because god damn, this is going to be painful.
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>>121085856
Become a tester slut and test for multiple teams without the others knowing
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>>121085971
>testing for 6 different teams at once
>when I already run 100+ tests for only one team
Nigga.
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>>121085837
I'm with ya senpai
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>31 teams in under 24 hours

Damn. Now to see how many pass verifications.
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>>121086597
Can /4ccg/ play? :3c
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How you want your VGL, senpai?
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>/llsifg/ signed up
Idolb Owl is happening and even as someone who doesn't care about idols the ensuing shitposting is something I'm looking forward to.
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>>121085809
if he knew anything about PES or the cup when he wanted to manage he probably could've became a co-manager for a board he actually goes on instead of ruining his image from Day 1
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>want to sign up general
>roster, auto-pilot tactics, music, logo, and kits (in PNG form) done
>Only one person in the general responds to VGL posts
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>>121087076
What general
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>>121086837
>no logo, no link
Off to a great start.
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>>121087076
Are you ordering some samefigs? :^)
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>>121087190
/cbg/

aka "Dead half the year" General
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>>121087303
pls no
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>>121087076
>>121087323
Just sign up, whats the worst that could happen?
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>>121087550
getting FUCKING REJECTED
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>General that only really took off a few days ago
>Fear it might die again within a few weeks
>Dont want to approach it for VGL because no one will probably care
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>>121079775
I will bandwagon the shit out of /fgog/ if they signup since I'm a hardcore Fatefag
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>>121087627
>>General that only really took off a few days ago
They aren't allowed in if that's the case
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>>121087591
If you sign up, there is a chance to get in and there is a chance to get rejected
If you don't sign up, you are already rejected
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>>121087826
/utg/ signed up
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>testing
>halftime stats

THANKS, FUCKING PES.
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>>121088027
Git gud Wilhelm
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>>121088027
>/k/ 1-1 /v/
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>>121088027
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>>121088027
just give up /v/
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>>121087275
Least it's a sign they're probably not a merc.
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>>121088027
Stop sucking so much dick you Brazilian bastard
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>>121087826
I think they are allowed but not for a member of the /vg/ team, but i don't remember the rules exactly.
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>>121085837
/aceg/ and /mhg/ are both teams I've wanted to see for a while, so hopefully they pass verification.
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>>121087998
>/utg/ can't read the rules
Why am I not surprised?
REMOVE
E
M
O
V
E
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>>121088215
I don't recognize those logos.
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>>121088592
We actually allowed /utg/ in after discussing it in the council. also, /fgog/ if they ever sign up
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>>121088417
Nah, we changed the 6 month rule from being a global rule to being a different situation for each team.
/utg/ are allowed in because they are huge and have been around for a few months anyway, have established a lot of culture.
A two day old general would get rejected for no memes/culture and the risk that some chucklefuck create a dead general for the sole purpose of participating.

>>121087998
>>121088592
/utg/ don't break the rules, CHUCKLEFUCKS.
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>>121088668
The grey one is easy recognizible as /k/, which means the other is /v/

>>121088839
>That spoiler

I think they are busy talking about UNRIVALED and Okeanos
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>>121088961
>>The /v/ manager is actually surprised this can happen

Explains a lot desu.
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Well, that wasn't fun. I'm still numb and aching from surgery, and above all tired as fuck.
Still, training for /m/ begins today, and I'll be damned if we don't maul those giant robots come Saturday.
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>>121089857
Good luck, CollieSis.
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>>121089857
>I'll be damned if we don't maul those giant robots come Saturday.
challenge accepted
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>>121089857
Fuck /m/ desu
I'd rather have /an/ go through.
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>>121089321
I blame Konami Stadium. And no, the surprised one wasn't me.

And just to show the rest, here's the 2nd half. Thanks, PES.
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>>121089857
>tfw /m/ and /an/ can't go through together

pls draw and pray 4 dq ;_;
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WOOO /INK/
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>>121090393
Stop playing long ball you moron
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>>121090183
>>121089857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Csif5l_6c

/m/an/bowl is my favorite match of that group so good luck to you both.
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>>121090006
Thanks :^)

>>121090183
Good luck, it'll be a fun game

>>121090231
>>121090414
>>121090541
desu I like /m/ and their cup history. I just like /an/ a whole lot more.
if only Corgi hadn't forgotten how to jump, then we could both promote ;_;
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>>121090541
Hah, that song was actually my first thought for an anthem for that match. Thanks for the link, though, I hadn't gotten to hunting for one yet.
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>>121087275
I remembered seeing a logo in their thread somewhere.
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>>121088309
Still, it shouldn't be too hard to get the μ's logo and to have the board name (/llsifg/) link, even if it is a red link.
It shows professionalism.
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It's fun just to sign up for stuff
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>>121091197
Glad to know we're both hyp enough for this match to do custom music. What do you think of /an/'s /m/ goalhorn?
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>>121090530
Kid squid kid squid
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>>121091342
>>121091382
>>121087275
Found it
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>>121091659
The Zoids one? Not bad at all.

I'm looking forward for a match against /an/ for tag-team cup vengeance and because from all my admittedly limited experience with it, /an/ has been a pretty chill board.

Good luck on the pitch m/an/iacs, see you all on Saturday.

THERE WILL BE BLOOD XOR OIL
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VGL5 signups have hit 32 teams, so that means any other generals that want to sign up should do so under the Waiting List section of the Signups page, in case any of the generals fail verification, don't actually have interest in playing, or they fuck up their exports or something shitty like that.

Also god help us all if we hit 40 teams.
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>>121092413
>that moment when you post a pic and don't even remember opening it
...was I going to make a /y/ joke or something?
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>>121092501
SUPER VGL
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>>121092826
more like super nightmare amirite
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>>121092631
It's literally your first day managing something and it's already time to
>Archie

You'd better not fuck up /mhg/ you crazy paint man.
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>>121092413
>making serious post
>some friendly bantz
>attempts to build hype
>accidentally posts a homo collage

/m/ - the post
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INK TEAM GO
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>>121092631
I retract every "/m/ can't possibly be that incompetent" I have ever posted.
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>>121093008
>>121093356
>>121093668
and now you know why I don't post very often

look upon my spaghetti, ye anons, and kek
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>>121093590
eyes of the squid should match the minimalistic theme of the logo desu
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>>121093590
seconding this >>121094070
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>>121080407
shut up bent
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>>121096076
shut up smugleaf
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>>121084079
that's due to perspective distortion.
The original was a :^) and somebody moved the ^ in its raster state.
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>>121096183
but I'm Koala.
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what is the purpose of vgl? are there any perks if a certain /vg/ board wins the vgl?
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>>121096883
Slots on /vg/ team.
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>>121096883
Top 22 has a spot on the team.
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>>121096883
Fun.

You also might get one of your players onto the /vg/ team depending on how well you do.
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RIP /acg/, /civ4xg/, /csgog/, /dfg/, /hsg/, /meg/, /mgqg/, /wotg/, /wtg/, and /xcg/
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>>121093590
I hope that meme game general doesn't taint the sanctity of the /vg/ team
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>>121097454
>/hsg/
lel
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>>121076526
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>>121097454
>/hsg/
>borith
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>>121096183
>implying I care about /merit/ / bent
bent pls posts are never me/always koala
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>>121097454
>get second
>don't enter
fuggin spotmonkey
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>>121097454
>/acg/
;_;7
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>>121094070
>>121095681
done
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>>121097731
K A R E N
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>>121098091
shieeeeeeeet I'm too slow
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Jesus On Wheels is looking better than ever!
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>>121097927
Koala should just kill himself already.
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>>121098185
Is Karen the queen on /4ccg/?
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lel lark is a VGL merc too
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Who can stop us?
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>>121092169
OK, that's impressive.
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>>121099121
smugleaf pls
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>>121098091
Inkredible.
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>>121099196
/sci/, desu
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>>121099121
lark is a toplad so shut it nerd
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>>121099196
/sci/ in one week
also
>>96
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>>121099196
yourselves
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>>121099438
self proclaimed mercs are on a level far below even bottomlad
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>>121099286
Not me, I'm too busy to shitpost, trying to sort ou- oh god what the fuck even is this
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Hey senpai, when are we making the switch to PES16?
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>>121098996
Maybe to us
So yes
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>>121099682
Spring 2016
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>>121098996
YES.
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Is Karen /c/ or /u/?
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>>121099541
what about managers of /w/, /i/, /biz/, /out/, /an/
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>>121098996
>Karen
>Queen of anything

No, Koala.
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>>121099419
>>121099462
>>121099495
>/sci/
>weeb board
nah senpai it's over, we elite cup again
football is coming home
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>>121100205
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>>121100205
Don't bully
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>>121100115
/c/
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>>121099121
No he isn't and you're dumb and gay
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>>121098996
when will we see her on the pitch?
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>>121100115
both
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>>121100775
She's obviously gay.

>>121100851
Probably when season 3 gets made and either /c/, /u/ or >/a/ picks her up.
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>>121100121
>Lear
>AnonGoat
>Rillion
>Indeterminate (sexual preference)
>Jack
>CollieBro
>mercs
Failure 1

>/biz/
>manager
Failure 2
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>>121100272
/gd/ isn't a weeb board either. :^)
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Tony is dust in the wind

all we are is dust in the wind

Everything is dust in the wind
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>>121100930
She was an option in /a/'s last roster poll yet had very little votes. /c/ should take her already.
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>>121100930
>Kinmoza S2 flopped
>NNB S2 flopped
>Yuyushiki S2 never
>YrYr3 flopping

There's only one SoL queen here. S3 soon.
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>>121101461
They flopped because Japan has shit taste.
Fuck.
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>>121100989
exactly so lark is top lad like the list you said.
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>>121101461
none of them turned into hentai
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So how many of the managers have failed VGL verification yet? Can't wait to see all the mercs :^)
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>all these 90+ goals from /a/

There is no shame in copying /mlp/'s tactics but Bitten and the /a/ testers should at least give credit to /mlp/ if you're gonna use this tactic :^)
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>>121105991
lark nearly did, only a few have been done though
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>>121106094
oh boy, another trophy for us? I'm really glad that /mlp/ is winning even those cups in which it does not technically participate. Thanks /a/, we will surely take care of 1st place trophy as soon as you will achieve it for us :^)
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>>121106430
This is /mlp/'s dynasty after all, every lesser teams that are winning are paying tribute to /mlp/'s greatness and every loser is a necessary sacrifice for /mlp/'s future success :^)
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>>121102741
look harder
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>>121101461
if /a/ add a player from this show, who would have the highest chance of getting voted on the squad? Chiyo?
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>>121107292
I was planning on suggesting "Cawfee" and have the blender be Cocoa or Chino with Tippy on her head.
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>>121107683
Agree with this. Character name players suck and Cawfee is the biggest meme from the show.
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who /his/ here?
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>>121107683
We should just make it tippy and have a giant fluff ball running across the soccer field
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>>121108460
Here, senpai
Been there since day 1
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>>121108767
Tippy as a soccer ball?
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>>121106775
>tfw /mu/ supporter
>tfw greatest team in the cup history

You horsefuckers have nothing against the consistency that is /mu/ in reaching far.
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>>121109084
>greatest team in the cup history
That'd be /wg/.
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>>121109084
They had one top 4 elite finish. /mu/ has had 4.
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>>121109018
animal abuse is will get twitch to ban us but yes do it
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>>121109315
>>121109210
>>
/mu/, /wg/ and /mlp/ are the best desu
/mu/ last Elites, four top 4 finishes, and an Elite win
/wg/ last Nuevos, a cup medal at least once every 4CC year, first team to win a Babby and an Elite
/mlp/ are basically a lesser /wg/ without the Elite accolade while it lasted
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>tfw you're more likely to finish buying /m/'s subs before you finish buying their main team.
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>>121108460

Yeah been shitposting it and bantering in the name of /int/. Been amazing.
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>>121108460
Surprisingly less /pol/ shitposting than would be expected.
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>>121110581
just as much /gsg/ shitposting as I expected
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>>121111285
Never been there, so maybe why I didn't notice.
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>>121111285
no matter how hard I try, I'll never be able to see Mussolini as anything but a comic book villain.
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What is the best abuse out there?
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>>121113674
clueless gril abuse
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>>121113674

Kekoff abuse is still real

Crash abuse is 100 percent effective, which is better than red card abuse.

Also, free kick free goals is starting to become a thing.
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>>121113950
>Also, free kick free goals is starting to become a thing.
lel no, free kicks tend to suck ass in 15
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>>121113950
>free kick free goals
>starting to become a thing.

Really? Taylor Swift scored the most recent, Real Human Being had one last summer against /soc/, and /mu/ had one in spring. I think that is about it in 15.
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Let us play, QD and GW. You know you want to~
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>>121114179
>>121114125

There's only one in this cup so far?

Shit, I thought I remembered two.
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>>121114212
I will not tolerate these memes being spouted at my direction.
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So assuming none of these shitty generals fail signups lel which ones are new for VGL5?
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>>121114620
/aceg/, /cbg/, /ffg/, /ink/, /llsifg/, /mhg/, /rlg/, /utg/, /lisg/ if they play lel

/drg/ and /ksg/ played before but haven't in a while (/drg/ died before VGL4 and /ksg/ took a 3-league hiatus)
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>>121114490
A few short free kicks have been awarded, but I think only one was converted into a goal.
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Flowre did nothing wrong
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If you oppose /merit/ you probably are insecure and should go outside more lmao fucking nerd.
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/old_man_sou

EVERYONE
GET IN HERE
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>>121101461
>>Kinmoza S2 flopped
>>NNB S2 flopped
>>YrYr3 flopping
Bullshit. I hear KinMoza and NNB did as well as their original seasons, and YrYr S3 isn't doing so bad.
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>>121118252
Nomo is just retarded uezs.
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>>121118252
Kiniro and Biyori both are looking to average about 2k less than their original season and YrYr is projected 3k on volume 1 where S2 averaged 7k total
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>>121117773
Get in where?
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>>121118598
twitch
Sou is streaming cup games
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>>121118598
the twitch nigga

sou playing PES
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>>121114879
>/lisg/
Speaking of

SeeSaw, you can't manage /lisg/. You managed /fgg/ in VGL4 and managers can't jump to a different team without a one-league break. You could manage them in VGL6 if you wanted.
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Friendly reminder to put your faith in Putin and to pray for /int/.
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>>121120574
Anon, why would anything good ever happen?

I mean, /lit/ and /pol/ are promoting this weekend.
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>>121121037
The two most unlikeable teams from that group, great.
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>>121121037

Putin will make things right this coming weekend, with the help of gold Spurdo.
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>>121121097
there's still hope for /c/ and /vp/ even

just one is fine at this point ;_;
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>>121121037
>>121121097
/vp/ over /pol/
/c/ blowing out /lgbt/
/vp/ over /c/ by 1
/pol/ over /lit/ by 1

b e s t r e s u l t

>actually having to root for /pol/

feels weird
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>>121120574

They lost to fucking /n/ though. What hope do they have against /jp/?
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>>121121709
>PES'd
They stand a chance against /jp/ but they have to win or draw and hope they don't go big spaghetti mode against /co/ again
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>>121122006

I wasn't able to catch the /n/ game, how'd they get PES'd?
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>>121121709
You can imagine PES like rolling a d20 for each side and tactics and formations as modifiers. But what we don't know how big those modifiers can be. Are really good tactics like a +10 or just a +3 at maximum, and the same in the negative. Nobody can say how much impact tactics actually had on a match. But when you run a match multiple times with the same tactics and see results being all over the place, you can see that RNG has more of an impact than tactics.
It's just for those insane 6-0 wins that it all falls together, rolling high on the RNG, having good tactics and the other team rolling very bad.

So really, any team can beat any team. It can be very unlikely but we've seen games ending 0-1 with 18(15) - 1(1) shots before, with the GK having 12 saves.
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>>121121709

>implying /jp/ can win when they just lost against /wsg/

I want /jp/ to win, but once they start losing...
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>>121117773
>/wsg/
[muffled angry comments about Umaru in the distance]
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>>121080407
That's nice toucan

>>121086597
I'm worried. Don't do anything bad to my hopes and dreams

>>121092826
>>121097161
My sides! So much this.

>>121117773
>the4c[our system think saying the cup name is a spam] is hosting BobRoss
Am I late?
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>>121125049
no, you should be on sou's actual twitch
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>>121125049
>all these posts you're replying to
good morning Anon. Sleep well?
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<Koala> mmmmm, tender 13 year old Finns

THIS IS WHY YOU'RE BANNED YOU SHITTY SWISS PEDO
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>>121126160
If it bleeds, it breeds.
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>I have more fun actually playing PES than testing it.

I think I have a mental illness.
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>>121126303
>not enjoying testing
that's no mental illness.
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>>121126303
>you have more fun actually playing a game yourself retardedly than watching a bunch of computers play a game retardedly
No you're fine
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Prepare for third Homura.

>>121125606
Thank you.
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>>121126695
It'll match the three Madoka at least.
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>>121126695
>where can I watch this
Old matches have mostly been lost due to the manlet incident.
According to http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos#2012_4chan_Autumn_Babby_Cup that match in particular has been lost forever.
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>>121076281
/his/ team when?
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>>121130638
next autumn
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>>121130638
Read the rules.
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>>121130854
Different anon here, I might be blind but I can't find the eligibility section in the rules.
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>>121130638
Better yet, /q/ vs /qa/ when?
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>>121099628
crtl-L is your friend :)
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>>121121681
>>121121097
>>121121037
Degenerates detected
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>>121126291
I like you. Come over to my house and fuck my loli imouto.
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>>121126695
Believe me you don't want to watch that game
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>>121076281
>putting /ag/L in the OP midway through a Cup
fullretard.jpg
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>>121134497
>Come over to my house and hug my loli imouto.
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>>121097978
>>121097741
>>121097608
Just gonna say two things, firstly I just started a full-time job so I have very little free time and to be honest the free time I do have I don't particularly want to spend messing about with PES, and secondly even if I did have the time my laptop is pretty much bricked so there's no way I could do any sort of management setup

TL:DR- Ripperino me

Anyone else from /hsg/ who wants to manage can, but I really don't think there's much support, which is a shame since there was last time

Also, /vg/ management you better get your shit together and get EVERYONE, GET IN HERE a goal before he's gone
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>>121135725
Are you looking for help setting stuff up for hsg? im getting no support from dsg whatsoever and im afraid that if i dont get any positive hype by tomorrow il just undo the sign up so another team can join.
Im not a hsg reguler but I visit it at times so if I cant manage dsg ild be willing to lend you a hand with your team
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>>121135725
Yeah, I asked earlier and they didn't seem too enthused about it.

Oh well.
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>>121135872
If you're a /hsg/ regular and you want to manage, by all means do it if the general is up for it

>>121135876
Yeah it's a real shame, but if no one there cares then there's no point putting the team in really
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>>121136346
Im a regular but its by no means my homeboard, I dont actually want to manage /hsg/ since I had my hearth set on /dsg/ but im willing to help the manager of /hsg/ with his stuff if time is a problem.
Im still waiting for a bit though, maybe later today people will magically start to hype for the /dsg/ team
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Reminder that /r9k/ will be on Winter and /co/ won't
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>>121136667
/co/ pls ;_;
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>>121109084
>got relegated in the cup they hosted
>best at anything
Pot kek desu
Come back when you've won an elite, a babby AND a TPT
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>>121136667
Hi, Ronery
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>>121137462
So the thing /wg/ did first?
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>>121137717
Based /wg/
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>>121137717
>>121137938
>He thinks rigged cups count
Kawaii tbf
Also /wg/ only has a babby TPT which worth less than nothing.
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>>121138029
>he thinks his team didn't rig their cups

Le Mao
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The /dsg/ export on the wiki is no longer availible, does anyone have it?
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>>121138101
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Didn't think so senpai
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>>121135563
Your choice senpai. Lolis were made for everything.
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>checking new VGL team rosters
>Memeback us a player on /d2g/
>having a manager as a player
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>>121139506
>the /ag/ league
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>>121139506
Maybe their manager figures that's what it'll take him to get a win.
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Approximately how long should goal horns be?
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>>121139506
>Memeback
>Manager

??
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>>121140135
you can memeback in dota but feedback is the local meme aka memeback
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>>121140242
I know you can memeback in Dota. This circlejerking is disgusting.
>>
Why the fuck does /fog/ not have a football team, but a shitty pony general based on Fallout was able to almost start it's own league?
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>>121134309
hi Autoscat

did you know yelling at your dad is degeneracy?
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>>121141760
>this again
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>>121141760
look dad I posted it again
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>>121141760
If you're from /fog/, nothing stops you from raising awareness of the VGL there and signing up the team on waiting list, you know.
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>>121142297
This. Increases the odds we'll get the Mega VGL too.
DO IT. JUST DO IT.
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Can /tfh/ participate? It's a videogame general after all ^:)
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>>121143006
fuck off smugleaf
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>>121143006
As someone who despises anything brony, I'd actually be okay with that
VGL needs some real villain that everyone can root against. I know there is /5n@f/, but it's not nearly as irritating and relevant now.
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>>121141871
the one meme i will never understand
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>>121143640
/utg/ is /fnaf/ 2.0,so hate them instead
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>>121143640
/dng/ is old /sp/ without the rigging.
>>
Not that anyone cares, but even by the extremely low standards the VGL uses to gauge interest, /civ4xg/ does not really care one way or the other about the VGL and won't be signing up.

(Unless someone else here who visits that general wants to take over the mantle.)

Now selling Baba Yetu to the highest bidder ;_;7
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>>121143730
eh, /utg/ has still some shreds of sanity left, although future of it is not bright. Also, while /utg/ is a terrible furry fanbase ruining actually good game, /5n@f/ is a terrible furry fanbase talking about equally terrible game series aimed at 12 year olds and cringey youtube letsplayers and a goddamn disgrace to horror genre.
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>>121143676
If his dad knew how much he (thinks he) got PES'd he wouldn't have to yell at him :^)

some idiot posted about how his dad interrupted his testing and scolded him once

it probably wasn't actually Autoscat but we meme on him for it anyway
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>>121134526
I remember this match, by the time it got to penalties, the inability to find the goal kinda got hilarious in a sad sort of way
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>>121143640
As someone who fucking loves anyhting involves stupid cartoon horses I would also love to see another good villain. Having a team everyone roots against keeps the banter alive.
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>>121144312
I know. I was laughing too in a 'why is this happening' kind of way.
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>>121079093
No it's /v/tard general
>>
Why not make the VGL in a knockout cup format? This way more teams could fit and there would be less matches. Have the first round be home-away so every team manages to play at least twice, and have the newcomers play a preliminary phase among themselves so there are 32 brackets in the end.
>>
#BanNorml
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>>121145748
Snorlax pls xD
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>>121145587
why not just a normal league format. every team faces another team twice, home and away. Team with the most points wins the league.
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>>121145587
S W I S S
W
I
S
S
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>>121145916
>near-constant VGL play every weekend when there's not a cup
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>>121146374
actually the 32 team /vgl/ league plays 65 games which includes the group stage and the knockouts and the final boss match.

a 32 team league (home and away format) would only have 63 games including the final boss match.
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>>121146546
>63 games
I think it'll be 49 games.

Also if they're doing that they should scrap the away goals rule. Not that I think it's a good idea, but hey, their league, their rules.
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>>121146897
no, i'm talking about league format. like the prem league has 20 teams which play each other twice so 19 x 2 = 38 total matches. Team with the most points wins the league.

In the /vg/ league's case. 32 teams so 31 x 2 = 62
+ League winner vs final boss match = 63

In this scenario every team can have a match with all the teams in the league (twice) and not just the ones in the group like the previous format.
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I've missed the cup so far, what the fuck happened to /co/?
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>>121147347
Nothing of importance as usual. Spring was little more than a fluke.
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>>121147347
Dark Boris repented
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>>121147486
>>121147497
Is it true the Flash was actually the only player holding the team together?
>>
Reminder that you can't do home and away series in PES because there's no way to force the game to go to ET/penalties when the series is tied.
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>>121147286
I was hoping you didn't mean that.

That'd be (32*62)/2 = 992 games total. Add the final boss and it'll be 993.
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>>121147497
>/hr/ and /co/ relegated
>/a/ and possibly /sp/ through the power of memes advancing
>Umaru keeps scoring
Dark Boris REPENTED
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The most delicous tears would be if sci beats sp, diy loses in any way,

then sci leaves group first at 7, and cgl promote from goal diff

no talk of group rigging has mentioned cgl, and yet they still stand a chance of leaving groups on no manager and no say in the final matchday
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>>121147904
He didn't repent, Sou just beat his ass.
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>>121147286
>19 x 2 = 38 total matches.
That's only for 1 team though
The prem has 20 teams playing 19 home games each, the away matches count as a home match for someone else so really it's 20*19=380 matches

Similarly, 32 teams playing 31 matches is 992 games or if it's only 1 encounter for every pair of teams since home and away doesnt matter as much in PES, 496 games
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>>121147928
Unless /sci/ beats /sp/ by 1 and/diy/ loses by 2 or more, in which case /sp/ finishes 2nd.
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>>121147286
That's not how it works at all. We'd have almost 1000 matches if we did it like that.
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>>121148392
it would be delicous, to see sp lose to a no manager team on full autopilot not even playing on the last matchday
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When will the cup using seeding for the knockout part?
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>>121148640
Sunday after the matches.
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>>121147771
>>121148298
>>121148469
>get a NEET streamer
>8 matches a day
>6 months of nonstop PES
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>>121099628
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: grotesque ("guro") images
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>>121148627
At this point /sp/ doesn't care what the results are anymore as long as they qualify.
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>>121148640
I propose that 1st places teams from their group would be seeded 1 - 8. Then the 4chan rankings would determine the order from 1 - 8.

The 2nd places teams would be seeded 9-16. Then same 4chan ranking order would follow.

Then it'll be.

1 vs 16
3 vs 14

5 vs 12
7 vs 10

8 vs 9
6 vs 11

4 vs 13
2 vs 15
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>>121149067
isnt that just how ALL group cups work
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>>121149067
>Then the 4chan rankings would determine the order from 1 - 8.
PLEASE GOD NO.

>>121149204
No, it's either randomly drawn or already decided before the tournament starts.
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>>121149067
This could cause teams from the same group to play in Ro16 though
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>>121149204
no they just do it randomly from the hat.
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>>121147286
lmao dumbass
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>>121149067
>using the rankings
No.
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>>121148640
Just randomly draw winners of groups A-D with runners-up from E-H (and vice versa) or something. The prospect of two teams from the same group meeting in the final would be hype.
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>>121141925
>>121142297
>>121141996
As somebody who uses /fog/, most of the general was actually interested in what was going on over on their horsefucker counterpart during the pony league, but then took a look at the shitflinging here and there and decided that they didn't want to have anything to do with VGL.

So whoever is trying to false-flag for his special /fog/ team to happen, go blame the horsefuckers for ruining it for everybody.
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>>121149067
>using the rankings
no but group seeding should determine the Knockout matchups
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>>121148934
Get 4 NEET streamers to run 8 games a day at around the same time and you can get most of it done in a month.
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>>121149278
>>121149265

there isnt even a 1st pool vs 2nd pool setup in 4cc?
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>>121149604
Why is it the horsefuckers fault? /4ccg/ ruined the /mlp/ league
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>>121149604
>/fog/ got turned off by how much drama /4ccg/ caused about /mlp/ wanting their league
>blame horsefuckers
baka
>>
I prefer the random knockout seeding desu senpai.
Any system where you can work out the possible match-ups before could encourage managers to throw games to avoid meeting specific teams.
>>
I swear, the next anon who mentions /mlp/ league in this thread is going to be in so much trouble.

Try me.
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>>121148627
But /a/ advanced. They're safe.
>>
Which pony general most likely would've won the /mlp/ league had it actually happened? There were four that were ready to go (fallout, fat pony, bats, and anon in equestria) and play memeball.
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>>121149692
Why is there even a need to? There is no reason for rankings which were done outside of the tournament to determine places other than for initial seeding. If a low ranked team topped their group, they deserve it, and there's no reason for their ranking to determine who they face in subsequent rounds. Because all that matters for ranking is the performance within the tournament itself.

Rankings should only be used as a last resort tiebreaker, and even then I'd prefer the coin toss.
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>>121150054
Why don't you stay in your fucking board?
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>>121150042
Not even memes can save /sp/ now.
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>>121149620
This would be a fucking disaster. VGL should just stay the way it is.
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>>121150054
>Which pony general most likely would've won the /mlp/ league had it actually happened?
/4ccg/
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Does anybody still have those cup drama infoboxes that one anon made?

They were like a battle infobox you'd find on Wikipedia, except they had 4ccg memes
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>>121150134
what? this is about people ranked 1-8 from the group stage

this has nothing to do with out of cup seeding
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>>121150882
It is if they're going to be ranked based on their cup seeding.
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>>121150980
yeah thats bullshit if that happens, but i was talking about 1st vs 2nd tournament placements based on ranking from inside the cup not global seeding

Thats what normally happens to give people a reason to be 1st in a group to earn the easier route
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>>121150215
But memes saved /a/ multiple times
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/ink/ you should probably have an icon by now since you're verified and everything. Also make it the green squid sprite for Mario Maker.
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>>121151136
>4chan rankings
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Ideal final weekend scenarios?

>/sp/ wins 2-0
>/diy/ loses 2-0
>/cgl/ fails to sign up for Winter
>/toy/ advances in 17th place
Mercs BTFO
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>>121149067
>taking the rankings seriously
My sides.
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>>121151136
Fine, but even if you really meant that I still won't recommend it, there's the chance of teams from the same group playing each other in the first knockout round.

Also some groups can be stronger than others, moreso with the fact that some of the teams may be new and untested and some of the untested turn out to be strong.

Not a good idea if you ask me.
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>>121097454
Too busy playing their respective games. But in all seriousness they are probably waiting for this cup to end.
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>>121154096
If anyone's advancing in 17th, at this point it'll probably be /n/.
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tfw /wg/ and /vg/ can still both advance from their group
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>>121154467
>thinking /n/ won't beat /wsg/
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>>121154576
/wsg/ plays 8 players behind the ball with counter/longball/wide. They're not exactly an easy team to beat.
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>>121154527
Too bad it'll be /h/ and /trv/
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>>121154716
With the way /po/ is playing unless they choke a third time, they should be able to beat /trv/ and /wg/ if their managers play just as retardedly as they did vs /h/.
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According to group strength (average of the 4chan rankings of the teams in the group), strongest to weakest group is as follows:

1. Group E
2 Group A
3. Group H
4. Group C
5. Group F
6. Group B
7. Group D
8. Group G

I propose that the seeding would be as follows:

Group E Winner vs Group G 2nd Place
Group B Winner vs Group H 2nd place

Group C winner vs Group F 2nd place
Group D winner vs Group A 2nd Place

Group H Winner vs Group B 2nd place
Group F Winner vs Group C 2nd Place

Group A Winner vs Group D 2nd place
Group G winner vs Group E 2nd place
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>>121155165
>rankings
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>>121150152
What board do you call home, anon?
Don't lie, nobody mains /vg/
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Why don't we just use rankings within a cup?

What I mean by this is: /fit/ and /a/ will both likely 12-point their groups. With the current setup, they would meet in the quarterfinals if they both win their round of 16 games because groups G and H are next to each other. By seeding within the cup, however, you make /fit/ the 1 seed, /a/ the 2 seed, and so on down the line through all the group winners, then repeat for slots 9-16 with the group runner-ups. So a team that squeaks out of the group with 6 points would probably have a very low seed, while a very strong runner-up would get to play a weak group winner.

This system both still encourages you to win your group, and to do so by as big of a margin as possible, and tries to ensure that the best teams meet each other last.
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>>121155859
/gd/ tried to abuse the Rankings system by promoting and intentionally getting relegated, this is one of the reasons m3ow got banned and why the cup no longer uses rankings for group draws.
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>>121155859
That's too complicated.

RNG is easy.
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>>121155859
Won't happen because 'managers will throw their games to get easier opponents'
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>>121155859
Just draw the group winners too
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>>121155607
/b/
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So um what was wrong with the old system we were using way back when of

A1 v B2
C1 v D2
E1 v F2
G1 v H2

B1 v A2
D1 v C2
F1 v E2
H1 v G2
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>>121155607
I actually do, only visiting other boards on occasion, or sitting in some generals on them.
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>>121156264
Can't see anything wrong with it, other than managers possibly throwing games to play different teams.
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>>121156054
This was literally a cover up to ban M3OW for being a shitposter. Anyone who was there can attest to it.
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>>121156436
People can do that nowadays. Say I'm /a/. I could throw to /3/, let /s4s/ go top with a win over /adv/ so i don't have to play /fit/ in the quarter finals when I know that I could beat just about any team in group A-D and make the finals.
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>>121156264

It literally got changed because of this: >>121156436

Can't you dumb newfags remember?
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>>121147486

>made a final
>fluke
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>>121156467
I was actually there when he said it, he didn't like the fact that he was in pot 3 for winter so he decided to yo-yo and rack up ranking points in the babbies so he could eventually be a pot 1 team. He was a loony.
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>>121156787
He was shitposting like always you moron. M3OW literally didn't have a single serious bone in his body.
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>>121156853
To bad Boris is literally the opposite.
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>>121154971
/po/ is god awful. it's likely that /wg/ and either /vg/ or /h/ will advance.
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>>121157201
Tinker please
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>>121157302
Okay believe what you want, but you'll be wrong.
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I propose /a/ stop bitching about the knockouts just because they know they'll lose to /fit/
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>>121157889
I believe in Bert and Mugi
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>>121156708
It happens in real life all the time, what's wrong with that?
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>>121156054
>ever using 4chan ranking for cup draws
If it were up to me I'd have used past tournament results for cup draws from day one.
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>they aren't merc'd
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>>121159695
Tech got approved because he's buddies with Smugleaf. Same with Lark.
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>>121159695
Where's my team?
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>>121159695
What you mean? Explain more clearly, 'cause I resent your implication and shit.
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>>121160012
Either the manager hasn't been verified or thread interest hasn't been posted.
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Gay
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>>121160364
Who to contact for verification and gib details.
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>>121159695
VGL has less mercs than the real cup.
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>>121161374
If you leave contact info on your user page or sign up, Nomo or Smugleaf should get to you when the Council is active.
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>>121161527
And by contact info, I mean skype.
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>>121159925
>because he's buddies with Smugleaf

the city of my sides
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>>121159695
/5n@f/, /@/, /feg/, /gsg/, and /rlg/ are 100% not merced.
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>>121161917
I'm sure you're not a merc and will do well.
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>>121159695
/ink/ is merc'd
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>>121162131
Go fuck yourself merc
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>>121162325
I dunno about Dtroit, but Sargbot is definitely /ink/.
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So what are you up to, /4ccg/?
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>>121162131
>deleting your posts because you forgot to delete your trip
Don't be a bitch.
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>>121162192
;_;

I paid like three Leviathan Pouches for this, we can't possibly lose, kupo.
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>>121162540
Clearly shooped, /4ccg/ denizens don't go outside.
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>>121162540
Shitposting
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>>121162540
Shitposting.
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>>121162131
Even Technetium says Lark is a MERC

MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC MERC
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>>121162131
>6-0
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Man it sure feels good to always remember to delete your trip when shitposting, makes the whole experience all the more enjoyable.
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>>121163235
It's fine, I've already accepted my fate.
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>>121155165
>Group E #1
Thanks /h/ and /wg/

mainly /h/
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>>121163386
Keeping the /vp/ manager tradition strong
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>>121149604

Generals are kind of a mixed bag on /mlp/. Lots of people hate the fact that there are so many, so when the /mlp/ league was announced there was instantly a lot of negative feedback about it. A lot of generals absolutely didn't care for it at all, but they were getting roped into it by people who didn't go to that general but just wanted to see more teams in the league, and they complained of all the people spamming irrelevant (futbol) shit in their threads. Then there was also the people running it, who were extremely obnoxious about everything (Rarifag and Wanderer) and who kept pushing it on to people who didn't want to be involved with it.

It was these factors that caused it the /mlp/ league to crash and burn.

/vg/ is all about generals, so you don't have that kind of aversion towards a generals league like you would have on other boards. The people seem to be competent enough and not attention whorish (haven't really paid attention to the whole /vg/ league thing, so correct me if I'm wrong). That just leaves the unwanted futbol spam in generals aspect. I don't go to any generals (except /4ccg/ occasionally) so I have no idea how bad that is. I don't consider someone posting a "hey, you guys interested in joining this tournament thing?" as spam, by the way.

/mlp/ absolutely loves the 4CC, so you can imagine how bad shit got for them to get unhappy about the /mlp/ league.
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>three Madokas
There's one in /u/ (Madokami) and one in /toy/ (Madoka Titus) if I recall. Where's the third one?

>two Homus
Other than Homucifer (in /u/) I don't remember the second one.
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>>121154096
/toy/, /vp/, /c/, /sci/, /sp/, /out/ all pull it off and go through

/an/ 17th though that isn't likely if /vp/ and /c/ are to advance together
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>>121163894
/a/'s Meguca and [s4s]'s Nice Grill
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>>121163894
>Where's the third one?

Meguca in /a/

>I don't remember the second one.

/e/ has a Homura, but is a different character
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Forget the merc discussions for a sec, which new managers are secretly planted /mlp/ or /sp/ (or some other team)?
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>>121163894
two Umaru's
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New manager here. How many hour of learning about blenders do I need to make certain body part disappear? Or is that possible without blender?
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Match of the tournament so far?
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>>121164115
>>121163894
Being Kyouko is suffering.
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>>121164324
/a/ vs /toy/
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>>121164324
/sci/ vs /diy/
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>>121164223
Planted Pokéfags are the real conspiracy desu
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>>121164324
/co/ vs /n/
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>>121164324
/n/-/co/
or /jp/-co/
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>>121164324
/jp/ vs /co/
/r9k/ vs /an/
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>>121164324
/biz/ vs /out/
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>>121164463
>Smugleaf
who else?
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>>121164324
/a/ vs /adv/
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Upset of the tournament so far?
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>>121164223
WEBMarshmallow is planted /mlp/
Lark is planted /sp/
AnonGoat is both
CollieBro is planted /pol/
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>>121164223

all of them
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>>121164295
>certain body part disappear?

If is the head it should be fairly easy
If is anything else you are fucked
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>>121164252
Are you still implying that UMR is Umaru? They're completely different people.
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>>121164621
/lit/-/c/
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>>121164737
blue haired desuwa freak pls leave
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>>121164580
Groudon and JB both of whom are also planted /sp/

HMMMMMMMMMM
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>>121164737
That could have been a nice aesthetic change, have /wsg/ Umaru be the chibi one and /a/'s the hot one
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>>121164580
Ordinate, Groudon, Shuckle, JB, and Bol.
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>>121164324
/h/ vs /po/
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>>121164939
>wanting to miss out on extra Kregg salt
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>>121164324
/fit/ v /x/
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>>121165145
>3 goals in 7 minutes
that was beautiful
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>>121164994
Bol's planted /v/ you fuck

He also wants you to buy his fucking game
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http://strawpoll.me/5911941
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>>121165109
>It's a Craig talking about /mlp/ and /co/ match
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>34 VGL teams signed up in about 2 days
Wew lad
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>>121164667
I don't need to learn about blenders to extend someone's hand as long as Slenderman, do I?
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>>121165517
You can't manipulate hands on Blender, the most you can do is Goalkeeper gloves
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>>121164994
There are a lot of boards that Ordinate's planted on including /sci/
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>>121147904
Together forever is real
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>>121165465
Can we get to, dare I say it, 40 teams?
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>>121165368
Why has Craig not been banned from /mlp/ and /co/ matches yet?
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>>121164737
That THING
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>>121165748
Because horsefuckers need salt to live and they dislike Cyclo's
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>>121165748

I might ask the host to not have him on for my next match
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>>121165729
I'm pretty sure some of the teams will fail interest verification so probably not.
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>>121155165
I like this proposal
potential /fit/ vs /a/ in the finals

and other potentially exciting matches for the knockout round.
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>>121164324
/a/ vs /toy/
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[s4s] vs /toy/
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When is the last /u/ vs /co/?
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>page 9
>when the cup isn't over
>when VGL is being organized
ded cup, ded hyp
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>>121168534
/sp/ being ded and the horsefucker takeover killed the cup.
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>>121166295
In all fairness Kregg has been a lot better this Cup. Sure Kregg can be pretty bad when he gets together with Boris or Ved, but his commentaries are a lot more enjoyable when he is with Sou. He's been talking a lot more about what's going on in the matches instead of the usual /co/-/mlp/ circlejerk
>>
Post your RO16 predictions.

Group A: /diy/ and /sp/
Group B: /r9k/ and /an/
Group C: /jp/ and /wsg/
Group D: /k/ and /w/
Group E: /h/ and /wg/
Group F: /c/ and /lit/
Group G: /fit/ and /out/
Group H: /a/ and [s4s]
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>>121169287
/adv/'s gonna advance for group H. The rest I either agree with or don't really care about
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>>121169287
A: /diy/ and /sp/.
B: /r9k/ and /m/.
C: /jp/ and /n/.
D: /k/ and /e/.
E: /h/ and /wg/.
F: /lit/ and /pol/.
G: /fit/ and /out/.
H: /a/ and [s4s].
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>>121169287
Group A: /diy/ and /sci/
Group B: /r9k/ and /an/
Group C: /int/ and /wsg/
Group D: /k/ and /e/
Group E: /h/ and /po/
Group F: /lit/ and /c/
Group G: /fit/ and /x/
Group H: /a/ and [s4s]
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>>121169287
>>121169916
>>121170159
too many weeb team qualifying, this is literally the worst babby cup and will make winter the worst elite cup
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>>121154096
>/sp/ goes 2-0 in the first half, but loses to the most dangerous lead with a cheeky 90+
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>>121169287
A: /diy/ and /sp/
B: /r9k/ and /m/
C: /jp/ and /n/
D: /k/ and /e/
E: /vg/ and /trv/
F: /c/ and /lit/
G: /fit/ and /out/
H: /a/ and /adv/
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>>121169882
I look forward to their matches, they're using something a little different from the norm and have yet to show a single slider on screen.
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>>121170301
>this is literally the best babby cup and will make winter the best elite cup
FTFY
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>>121170301
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>>121170301
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>>121170301
this desu
like if having the horsefuckers in it wasn't enough
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>>121170301
/a/'s literally confirmed, /c/ may as well be confirmed unless they megachoke to /vp/, one of /e/ or /w/ advancing is damn near guaranteed, /m/ has a great chance now that /an/ lost a match, /h/ and /jp/ have very winnable final games

stay mad desu
>>
How many Forwards should I have?
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>>121170990
7
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>>121170990
at least three
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>>121170990
No more or less than 4
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>>121170990
Two or three. One and four+ are objectively shit.
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>>121170990
5-4-1 park the bus la
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>>121170727
Your faggots had a year to kill the horsefuckers and only gave them a cup.
Is time for the weebs to prepare for war.
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>>121168534
>middle of the week
>BetRigtor ran away
>/vgl/
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>>121171403
Mourinho shut up
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>tfw ponyfags hate us weeabros because they know their shitty Canadian flash cartoon, will never, EVER reach even 1/100th of the quality of your average anime

Feels good
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>>121170301
suck it ,horsefucker
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desu
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>>121172461
But that's a good thing, because 99% of anime is even shittier than the shitty canadian flash cartoon
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Is it easy to make a player fat?
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>>121172898
Open PES and set him to the maximum weight for his height anything above PES max weight for x cm of height is illegal
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>>121172898
set him to max weight, maybe some +7's too

be sure to do this in PES because if you do it with the editor it's easy to put a player over their max weight
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>>121170750
>megachoke against /vp/

That sounds familiar.
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>>121172898
Dobson pls
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Who's going to get the Golden Glove?
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>Holiday season
>comfy weather
>4cc team made it to Winter, rest of Autumn Babbys is purely for entertainment
>comfy VGL5 coming up

Good feels
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>>121173128
>>121173290
Reminder that over max weight does literally nothing and Bent is retarded.
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>>121173627
>finals coming up
>shitload of work to do because this cup took a lot of my time
>need to git gud
>need to test for VGL 5
>feeling tired as fuck
I swear some of you people make it look way too easy.
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>>121173627
Hi whichever /a/ shitposter you are
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>>121173864
Where is the proof, anon. Where is the proof?
>>
>/jp/ fan
>/int/ is my second favorite team on group C
>/jp/ advancing kills them

Why did it have to be like this?
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>>121174809
if your team can't beat /n/ then they don't deserve to advance desu senpai
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Should I call in sick to watch my team play on Friday?
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>>121175547
It's just a Babby, who gives a fuck
Save your sick days for the real cups
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>>121175547
yes
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>>121175547
No, because they'll lose 7-0
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>>121175547
Not worth it desu
Can always avoid the thread and just watch it when Klaxa puts it up.
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>>121175547
No, no manager abuse is real
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>>121175941
where does he upload the videos? youtube?
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>>121176203
http://archive.klaxa.eu/
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>>121176203
Redtube
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>>121176203
The link to the archive is on the wiki.
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>>121175137
desu senpai /n/ have only lost 4 games this year
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>>121176276
thanks m8
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>>121176280
That's only for some games like /lit/-/vp/
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>>121175941
watching the replay is nothing like watching it live desu senpai.
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Is all this VGL merc name-calling just a meme? Their verification process is literally ten times more rigourous than the actual cup's.
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>>121176892
Merc is a serious business and not a meme. Not everything people repeat endlessly on the internet is a meme baka desu senpai
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>>121176892
I fucking hope not, or else my precious /wotg/ wont get through. Its not rigorous at all if you're not a merc.
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reminder that /a/ are two 90+ goals away from sitting on 5 points and facing a must-win game
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>>121176458
Teams /n/ has beaten: /vg/, /hm/, /gd/, /soc/, /int/, /co/; the worst /vg/ and /hm/ sides ever, /gd/ throwing it, fluke /soc/, a PES win over /int/, comeback over /co/ that can't hold onto a lead after Spring happened

Teams /n/ has drawn: /d/, /toy/; the best /d/ in a while and the worst /toy/ ever

Teams /n/ has lost to: /k/, /co/, /s/, /jp/; a /k/ a goal away from advancing, the only good /co/ side ever, one of the best elite teams, arguably the best team in Group C

This year's /n/ can't beat quality opposition. What's new?
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>>121175547
Depends on who your team is
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>>121169287
Group A: /diy/ and /sp/
Group B: /r9k/ and /m/
Group C: /wsg/ and /jp
Group D: /k/ and /e/
Group E: /h/ and /trv/
Group F: /lit and /c/
Group G: /fit/ and /out/
Group H: /a/ and [s4s]
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>>121176892
Unlike 4CC, the VGL verification has the managers prove that their general actually wants to play too.
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>>121177113
What?
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>>121177113
>implying the 90+ goal vs /adv/ wasn't destiny
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>>121177371
I have been TELLING people for MONTHS that the 4CC should adopt this procedure, just like Tottori wanted us to over a year ago.
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>>121177390
if /a/ hadn't fluked two 90+'ers, they wouldn't be considered good

i.e. they're overrated and will lose in the round of 16
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Real v PSG now. 90' 1-0 +5 min.
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>>121177578
Well they'd be 2nd in the group on 5 points and guaranteed advancement with a win over /3/ so, you know.
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>>121177390
Take the 90+ goals away, /a/ sits on 5 points +1 GD and a guaranteed advancement because their last opponent is /3/
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>>121177531
Pardon me for not knowing this but I don't really frequent this general in the off season so..

Whatever happened to Tottori?
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>>121177530
>Based Vectors blocking those goals
>Excellent setup by Bebop and Inferno Cop
>Bert didn't choke
There is no curse, only destiny
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>>121177113
Fuck /a/! Fuck those smelly basement dwelling nerds who dream of fictional 12 year old gook cartoons. Their manager is a hack who would not be even considered fourth rate in the /vg/ leagues, a lucky nincompoop who depends on muh 90+ goals to win games. I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out better tactics than what he does. And their testers, they are a bunch blithering idiots, screaming like autistic kids in the supermarket. I'd rather read my little pony fanfiction than watch this team succeed. Fuck /a/, I hope they crash and burn in winter and go back to irrelevancy.
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>>121177673
>>121177693
Post ending in 5 decides how hard I meme against /3/
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>>121177894
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>>121177530
90+ goal abuse is literally cheating and shouldn't be allowed
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>>121177962
2 defenders and 1 striker, all the midfielders on the wing.
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>>121177578
Nah, /a/ is going to fluke it's way all the way to the third place trophy.
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>>121177962
2-3-5

Let us hear Supersonik at least once lel and maybe just maybe not be doomed to face /fit/ in a QF
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>>121178083
I don't like it either, but I'll take it.
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>>121177962
crunch everyone in the middle, nobody on the wings. long pass aggressive many on attack
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>>121177962
Seven niggas.
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>>121178254
>implying they'll get past us
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>>121177962
Your goalie did fine holding the fort last time. Everybody forward. Drag the match out with your goal horns
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>>121177962
3-3-4, old /3/ style

LB CB RB LM RM AM LW RW SS CF
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>>121177894
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>>121177962
Japanese 1-6-3. Since PES doesn't allow a one-man back line, go with LB-CB-RB and set the fullbacks to join the attack.
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>>121177962
5 CBs, 4 DMFs, 1 SS

just park it senpai
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>>121177962
no memes, just domination.
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>>121177962
Park the Bus so hard she gets a Nobel Peace Prize for refusing to give up her seat
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>>121177962

this desu ne >>121178559
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>>121177962
Throw it.
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>>121177371
Exactly, so that being said how would all these new teams be managed by mercs? Even if lark is the most blatant merc ever it seems clear he is an /rlg/ regular, or at least enough that the VGL council decided he pass
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>>121178241
Rerolling for this, and make it asterisk-shaped.
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>>121177962
forfeit the game and quit the Babby Cup altogether
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>>121179125
>>121179165
Aw shit son
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>>121179165
>>121179125
wew
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>>121177962
2-2-6
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>>121179125
>>121179165
Nice desu ne.
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>>121179125
>>121179165
nice save senpai
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>>121164324
/pol/ - /lgbt/
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>>121177531
>basing relevancy of a team on a few anonymous posters that might not even belong to the thread.

Do you people even 4chan? How naïve are you faggots?
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Man you people suck at this

>>121179125
Neato. I guess pic related is out of the question then.

>>121179165
2slow senpai.
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>>121179813
Just manmark everyone anyway
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>>121179813
>memeing
>not going 12 point masterrace to establish dominance over /fit/ for the QF clash
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>>121180039
It's /out/'s year anyway, the QF will be /out/-/a/ :^)
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>>121179813
Put in UMR no matter what her condition is.
Give Wide Face some match time
Put in Boku and Mugi and see if they can get red carded before the knockout stage
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>>121180039
>dominance
>over /fit/
Yeah, no.
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>>121180324
lel all these /abweeb/s bandwagoning /fit/
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>>121179813
swap Ren-chon for TEH REI
Also Komm süßer Tod as her special goalhorn
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>>121180709
No m8 we're legit not winning that game. /fit/ 2stronk and I'm probably going to be live managing for the first time in my life. It'll be a slaughter.

>>121180764
>>121180303
I'll just put Chaika, UMR, Ren-chon and Teh Rei as strikers then.
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>everyone is already acting like /a/ and /fit/ are guaranteed to beat every team who comes second in their group and face off in the top 8
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>>121180709
What is ab"x" even supposed to mean?
>>121180764
rerolling for this
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>>121181175
I don't know about /fit/ but /a/ is the smuggest board so it's only natural
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>>121181221
short for a bastard
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People are aware that /a/ aren't allowed to throw the game when /3/ is still mathematically able to qualify, especially if they get a good goal difference from /a/ memeing, right? They know that they won't be allowed to make these changes, their export will be rejected etc?
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>>121181175
/fit/ are a champion level team stuck in the cup's worst group and /a/ have the biggest fanbase and testing autism of anyone in this cup, it's to be expected

>>121181221
Anyone But e.g. AB/mlp/ (literally not a mental illness) or AB/int/ (>Ronery)
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>>121181175
That's quite obviously assuming we even get to the QFs, yes.

>>121181340
>implying I won't test the memes so that we win anyway
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>>121181175
>/a/ and /fit/ favorites to the final
>They meet /m/ who proceeds to fuck them over like /vr/
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>>121181720
>/m/
>ever beating /a/
There's your problem desu lad
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Hey /4ccg/, how would you feel towards a Cripple Cup?

Pretty much every player as slow as shit, injuries on, and everyone weak as hell too.
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>>121181720
/a/ and /fit/ face in the QF though unless /a/ loses to /3/ or /fit/ loses by 4 to /out/
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>>121182272
>cripplecup

You mean 8gag's?
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>>121181996
Remember when the 'arrogant' /m/ got their first ever defeat from /a/?

I doubt /a/ will continue to be smug if /a/ keep this attitude up.
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>>121182272
/ksg/ would wank themselves into a coma
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>>121162540
Masturbating.

And shitposting.
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>>121182658
Speaking of /ksg/:

>/ksg/ guy in charge of leaving a proper skype contact for verification
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Will we ever hear elektronik supersonik again?
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>tfw no comfy stream
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>>121183134
>not watching Bob Ross RIGHT NOW
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>>121183336
get in the bed, slut
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>>121183336
Makes me regret that I gave up on painting senpai. I don't want to feel that feel.
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>>121183687
Now you can try again, with the best of the best teaching you.
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What are some VGL Rivalries? I want to see awesome friendlies before the draw.
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Tell me /4ccg/, what team has the worst logo?
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>>121185998
/d/
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>>121185998
/d/.
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>>121185998
Any of the ones that are just a circle in shape
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>>121185998
I changed my mind it's /d/ AND /lgbt/
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>>121185998
All the ones with stripes.
Those are a bitch to make.
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>>121185998
/d/
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>>121186105
>>121186153
>>121186258
>>121186437

Weak baits maits
pity response senpai desu
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Don't fuck up again Soryuu
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>>121186560
Old one was better desu
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>>121186772
Why is DF Wanker there?
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>>121186835
That's Orteil you nignog
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>>121186835
That's Orteil
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>>121185998
I think /gif/ has an absolute shit logo
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>>121186795

I was attached to it but this new one won me over pretty quick.

Though we're still using the old one in limited capacities since it's still a p. good logo.
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>/c/ is most likely going to have to beat /vp/ to advance
>Konata is a forward
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>>121185708
>tfw >>121186772
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>>121186935
>>121186968
who?
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>>121187329
The /igg/ captain. The pic is about the old VGLites.
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>>121185998
/vp/ logo is pretty bad desu senpai
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>>121187150
I don't get it? Is that pokeymon?
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>>121187329
Not too long ago, the VGL Threelite were /acg/, /gsg/, /igg/. After three VGL's, none of them failed to reach the knockouts.

/igg/ went dead, /acg/ has no interest in playing, and /gsg/ joined /acg/ watching the Knockouts in the VGL4 rather than playing in them.

/gsg/ is the only one of the three left playing. ;_;
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/4ccg/, you have to set up a blind date between two 4CC people, who do you pick?
No "me"s allowed
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>>121188764
GB and Ken

EmbroideryAnon and Rorona
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>>121188764
Sou + any ponyfag
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>>121188764
>Art and McBob
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>>121188764
Ved and Sou
>Ved comes in two hours late
>Sou is too stoned to even notice
>they start talking about the 4CC
>Sou goes on a rant about horsefuckers
>Ved just keeps nodding politely
>afterwards they just cuddle up together and stream the comfiest weekend of virtual divegrass in history of virtual divegrass.
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>>121188764
Tony and Cyclo
I feel like they would have the best after dinner sex.
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>>121185998
/vp/ is by far the worst.
What a fucking clusterfuck of an abomination.
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>>121188764
Fang and EA
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>>121185708
Who the fuck cares even slightly about the VGLel? Especially when we're in the middle of a real cup.
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>>121190552
After both furfag generals join the VGL it will have more viewers than the 4CC
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>>121190749
there's 2 generals with 1000 combined people?
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>>121150605
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>>121190979
Yes
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>>121191162
most recent completed /utg/ with 800+ posts: 202 IPs
current /fn@f/ with 400+ posts: 88 IPs

lel
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>>121190552
tbf VGL has to get their shit organized earlier because generals are not as established as cup teams. Also they don't want to clash with holidays.
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>>121191126
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>>121182569
I'm personally not smug at all though.

>>121182976
Yes. Perhaps multiple times.
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>>121191373
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>>121191642
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>>121191869
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>>121191342
202 people for a single /vg/ general is a lot to be quite honest with you family
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>>121192181
Right, but we have about 150 on a regular basis and hit 200+ on cup days
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Following VGL teams still need to post proof of their generals' interest in playing:
/dng/
/fgg/
/vitagen/
/mk8g/
/domg/
/rsg/
/kspg/
/srg/

No rush or anything but that's how you get on the "confirmed to play" list on the VGL5 page, even if you're verified to be a manager.
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>>121185998
The /i/ and /d/ redesigns are fucking trash. The worst "old" logo is probably /o/ or /sci/
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>>121192862
>/sci/
>A fucking square
>Good as a base for a logo ever

What were they thinking, I thought they were supposed to be smart
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>>121189270
i'd rather date pybro than a horsefucker
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>>121189270
neither of them would actually have sex, they'd just watch their bulls fuck instead
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>>121194020
I'll remember this for the fanfics
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>>121187498
It's background knowledge. In /vp/-/c/ of Spring 2014, Konata choked an open shot on net at 90+ that would have allowed them to advance on a win over /vg/.
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>>121194020
There would be so much hate that the sex would end up being orgasmic. Trust me I've written dozens of fanfics.
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>>121187498
It's a reference to the biggest choke from a past cup. Spring 2014, I think?
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>>121192390
Looks like /fgog/ really wants to enter.
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>>121188764
SDA and CollieSis
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>>121194613
They need to actually add themselves to the waiting list, then.
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>>121194613
MEGA
VG
LEAGUE
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>>121194184
then again i'd sooner acknowledge that home team abuse is real than do either of these things

>>121194567
then focus on chancexlark, i think you'd be able to really bring out the sexual tension between them.
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>>121194909
I'll also remember that for the fanfics
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>>121194909
Then I'll involve them in the sequel.
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>>121194613
>>121194839
>mega /vg/ league
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>>121188764
EmbroideryAnon and Powdinet
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>>121194613
>that Common Core bullshit later on in the thread
Top kek
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>>121195084
There's fanfics also what's fanfics?
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>>121191869
>Portugal supporting /4ccg/
Genuinely fuckkoffo you cunto
Daily Reminder to IP ban Portugal
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>>121196921
I don't understand your question
>>
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
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>>121197371
OaB pls go

:^)
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>>121188917
This .gif will show you how that will go down.
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>>121197550
>already talking about going down
Whoa, slow down there,stallion, you haven't even gone on the date yet.
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>>121196921
What?
>>121197550
But think about the fanfics that could be written
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>>121197982
>But think about the fanfics that could be written

Like Sou fucking Testpony girlfriend?
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>>121197982
I do like those fanfics actually. They give me a grand laugh.

>Tfw I lost the pastebin of the one where it was Me and Norml causing a Heap of Trouble.
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>>121196921
>There's fanfics?
https://www.literotica.com/s/tonys-ascent-into-kekolding-ch-01
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>>121196921
In case you were asking for them:
http://pastebin.com/PZjpA66i
http://pastebin.com/dy3NRQej
http://pastebin.com/0TzqJKAU
http://pastebin.com/yMJFKYxW
http://pastebin.com/8gWs5Y3a
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>>121198552
>That filter
Way to go, senpai
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>>121198552
Added to shitlist ;)
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>>121198552
>Tony getting keked by a guy named Brad
like pottery
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>>121198557
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>>121199495
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>>121197075
I didn't make them, I just posted them for that Anon who requested them.

Daily Reminder that Switzerland is IP banned instead
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>>121197982
I've been working on a Sou in Equestria fic for about a month desu
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>>121199819
Reminder that Switzerland did nothing wrong.
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>>121199935
>a month
This better be at least 25,000 words.
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>>121200001
JUST
>>
Teams that have never reached an elite cup:
/biz/
/out/
/w/

Who's the most likely to go up this weekend, if any?
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>>121200763
/out/, of course.
IT'S OUT'S YEAR BABY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>smugleaf literally being bullied out of making aesthetics by merit

When will it stop? Who is next?
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>>121200763
/out/ and /w/ both have pretty reasonable shouts.
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>>121200763
I T ' S

/ O U T / ' S

Y E A R
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>>121200763
/out/ literally needs a win or a draw and hope that they don't get rekt too hard by /fit/ and/or that >Art's lel-tier mindgames actually beat /x/ or at least hold them to a draw

/w/ needs a win and then a draw or win against /e/; one of those things is more likely than the other by a long shot

>/biz/
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>>121200763
/out/ has a good chance.
I root for /e/ so I want them to make it and it would be great to see /w/ go into the RO16 yet /k/ kinda deserves it.
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>>121200142
I am not a NEET
I have very little free time
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>>121200903
I can see where he's coming from and I saw this approaching from a mile away, but it's a huge loss nonetheless.
Let's hope things change for the better and we can all find together again someday, and even if that never happens, I hope he'll find fun in something else in his life.
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>>121200903
>>121201369
Wait, what happen? Tony came back and got butthurt because people were having fun?
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>>121201369
Hang on what? What happened?
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>>121201664
everything is fucked and everyone got keked
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>>121201369
We're all gonna make it brah
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>>121201886
Can I get a real summary?
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>>121201570
>>121201664
Why do people have to leak shit all the time? This is exactly what he wanted to avoid. Smugleaf is considering quitting because there is too much drama surrounding the cup and him.
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Gentleman, irc the soap opera
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>>121201978
If he has to quit, I'm going with him then.
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>>121201978
Je Suis Smugleaf
>>
I will immediately terminate the /merit/ people.
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>>121201978
But I love Smugleaf....
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>>121201978
>too much drama surrounding (...) him.

What?
>>
#SmugLivesMatter
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>>121202424
With Tony and /merit/ looking for reasons to ban him.
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>>121202546
Thats not drama, thats Tony being an asshole.
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>>121200763
>/biz/.
If /out/ manages to get some points from /x/ or /fit/ or if /x/ chokes with >/biz/ you can pretty much put them in Winter.
/w/ is going against >/d/ and /e/, that could go from 3 more points to 6 depending how hard they choke.
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>>121202424
/merit/ personally messages him whenever they see a post he made which they deem inappropriate. So he's playing with the thought of simply not doing anything but managing /gd/ anymore, since that way he's less likely to be banned and /gd/ won't be managerless.

He's probably going to get more shit from /merit/ for talking with others about how he feels and this then leaking into /4ccg/, so we might have just given Smugleaf more problems by simply talking about it.
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>>121203267
>/merit/ personally messages him whenever they see a post he made which they deem inappropriate.

For a group of people who despise /pol/ with their whole souls, they sound pretty similar to the Gestapo.
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>>121203687
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>>121203698
NEW THREAD
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last for /c/
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lastier for [s4s]
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>>121185998
/ck/, /diy/, /h/, /hm/, /ic/, /lgbt/, /lit/, /o/, /out/, /s/, /sci/, /trv/, /w/
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