/scg/ - Star Citizen General

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>>121065831
first for anime

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>>121065985
third for turks

so odds that the PTU will be gated to only a certain number of people?

Who said that the baby PU is supposed to drop later today? Sauce?

>>121065831

Nice bait.

I thought the ded game thing was just a meme ;___;

we should be space sim general instead

>>121070712

There is nothing but shitposting until Alpha 2.0. Then we will have shitposting with being a dick in game.
This general will be more active once Squadron 42 is released.

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>>121070071

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>>121070071
Are you angrier now?

Is it even possible to play this game yet or is it just people jizzing over ships they've paid for?

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>>121072869
m8...

>>121072869
It can take you 3 seconds to answer that question on youtube.

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>2.0 PTU is "supposed" to drop later on today

source?

>>121073621
No source, it's bait desu senpaitachi

>>121074043
Shame, I had let my hopes get up for a minute there desu desu

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>no sign of squadron 42 ever releasing
i just want to be comfy and fight xeno scum for the UEE

>>121074175
Never get your hopes up in /scg/.

Who /reservedhype/ here? I've given up being hype all the time since game development takes a long time and this game has quite a way to go.

>>121074329
>>no sign of squadron 42 ever releasing

newfag

>>121074628
sit on 4chan like I do every day.

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>>121074628
Eat sweeties and browse 4chan

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ooh, a thread, spooky

so what was Derek up to lately? Anyone keeping track?

>>121072869
only dogfighting with singleseater ships

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Hmmm

This thread has too much bait.

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>>121066881

This. OP, getting a man erect for no reason is cruel.

>glass stronger than steel
star citizen's lore is coming to reality
>http://ajw.asahi.com/article/sci_tech/technology/AJ201510290034

>>121078278
Then it will be just another fantasy MMO, not sci-fi at all.

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>>121077845
We're more likely to get S42 than baby pu to be honest. Considering what Chris did with ilfonic.

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>>121078845

>>121078845
Well actually, they just announced that CIG was severing their relationship with Foundry 42 and moving single-player development in-house.

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>>121079120
>severing their relationship with Foundry 42
You mean illfonic.

plebb.it /3r7rrm
>illfonic defence force activate!

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>>121078278

still waiting for the herald...

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>>121078845

I'm remaining hopeful.

>>121079619
When's she scheduled to be fired?

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So, Derek has no more insider information, right? Must mean the moles got fired. Has the whole thing died down now?

>>121080832
not really. there were massive layoffs in austin last week just like derek said there would be.

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>>121081673

I'll stick around as well, I want to shove corpses in the back of my Avenger and sell them to space hobos. Don't think I can do that anywhere else.

>>121081438
you mean just like Chris Roberts said there would be in his letter to staff he published online

>>121081438
Love how Derekt screams DISINFORMATION everytime someone proves him wrong.
Chris announced the Austin layoffs well before Derek did.

Maybe CIG is trying to abandon this awful country and ambulance chasers like Derek to solely work out of F42.

>>121084175
Not gonna lie, i like that prospect. F42 guys consistently showing actual results.

>>121081438
Oh, you mean the layoffs associated with them consolidating their office? The consolidation announced like a fucking year ago? Before anyone even remembered smart was even still alive?

Goons are asleep, post content.

>>121091612
Ayy false dichotomy and cherry picking.

>>121091612
what a smug faggot

wow way to be a bro, i'm glad i didn't fund those assholes

>>121093708
he's being a smug faggot and taking a potshot instead of being a classy and letting his actions speak for him

snarky faggots think their shit doesn't stink
and their first game was dogshit

you stupid faggot learn english comprehension or go take an ESL course

>>121094280
>implying it's worth my time to use punctuation or capitalization for you useless faggots

and none of that has anything to do with comprehension you stupid fuck

>>121094848
please go to school and learn english k thx

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What do you gais think of my set up?
Siatek x55 joystick
Siatek pro rudders
Volair flight sim chair

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>>121096751

>>121096751
Where's the dragon dildo for you to sit on

10 for the writers 6
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15038-10-For-The-Writers

>>121103126
We need more chairman.

>>121105065
I believe he was still in England when they were filming this.

>>121096751
how is the chair

I noticed I have a retarded office chair not meant for computers so I removed teh armrests

also I got a slim mechanical keyboard so I can set my throttle and stick on either side without moving it

Anyone got an idea of the reason the qt character artist got fired?

>>121113727
She wasn't exactly fired, her department moved to another studio, and she couldn't follow. Part of their restructuring they warned about.

>>121114426
>her department moved to another studio
That's not what I'm reading here:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14995-Monthly-Studio-Report
>The current PU Art and Animation team will also stay in Austin, as will the Austin ship artists.

After browsing these 3 main forums for awhile now, I find it utterly hilarious that there are more level headed, non sheeple type people here in /vg/ than any of the others.

And the fact that the trolls make themselves super obvious is another plus.

>>121093708
>>Shitting on devs for making their game

What game?

>>121065831
>2.0 PTU is "supposed" to drop later on today.

So where is it?

>>121120640
I guess that's why he put quotes around supposed

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>>121120640

Moshi moshi, baito desu.

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>>121121693
You're a failure as a weeb. It's beito. Typical weeb faggot.

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>>121090923
>content

>>121115507
>And the fact that the trolls make themselves super obvious is another plus.

And yet /scg/ always takes the bait or gets triggered something fierce.

>>121115507
/vg/ has been wrong over and over and over again.

>>121123810
You sound like some sort of mousenigger shill who likes Pedro and thinks all western women are objectively hideous.

>>121124967
Memetastic

>>121123148
Pretty sure it's Bento

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>>121127560

I think that means lunch.

>>121123148
>not be-to

wew

>>121134012
Pretty low effort there desu senpai

>>121096751
Stick is absolute shit
Chair is a personal choice, I think sim pits are pretty autistic
Pedals are okay

Spent more on a chair than a primary game input method / 10, honestly.

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did anyone read this shit? pretty hype senpai

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15031-Star-Citizen-Alpha-20

>>121079619
slam this qt in the chargen face scanner already dammit

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>>121137402
>Cruise Mode gives the pilot velocity at the expense of control. And while the top speed is high, the available acceleration doesn’t change, meaning that reaching maximum Cruise velocity will take 15-20+ seconds, turning ability does not scale with velocity and coming to a stop can take much longer using the normal ship retro thrusters.

>Cruise velocities can easily reach 5x or more of the safely controllable velocities allowed by SCM. Maneuvers in Cruise mode become more about adjusting course than making turns. It goes without saying that Cruise is absolutely not intended to be used in combat, asteroid fields or high-traffic space lanes.

>Savvy pilots will quickly learn to use decoupled mode and boost to brake with their mains as quickly as possible. Conversely, pilots will find that attempting to change course 90 degrees by using decoupled mode is an express ticket to sleepsville since the high sustained g-forces of such a maneuver lead to rapid black or red-out.

I am ready to watch the metal rain on station surfaces. T-day's parting gift will come after all.

with the physical damage system won't it be the case that the impact speed is relative to how fast the shooter is going? so you can cruise at someone and fucking destroy them with ballistics?

>>121137980
Based Trevor

>>121138082
may be the case, in fact I hope so. according to >>121137402 you can actually steer somewhat in quantum travel as well, just to make it that much more viable.
>hit quantum in Caterpillar
>line up with target
>disengage main hull from bridge
>drop out of quantum
>main hull no longer has any avionics telling it to slow down
>bullet the size of a large semi truck trailer traveling near the speed of light

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>Mfw TrackIR is fun but also frustrating as fuck, ultimately shit tier compared to IM gimbal aiming even if you can point off-bore
>Mfw the most competitive methods of flying are also the least fun or rewarding

>>121138282
>1000m/s
>near speed of light

IM mode removal when

>>121138425
yeah mouseniggers are going to ruin this game

also they said they balance it by giving fixed bigger weapons

well bigger weapons are more mass which makes the ship accelerate slower AND now lower top speed. And smaller guns have faster projectiles so they hit even easier, with less power draw

>redownload 30gig lel
>launch game
>all this lag

So the game is still dog shit after more than a year. No surprise

2.0 should be interesting, if not funny.

>>121138953
Works on my machine

>>121137472

I wish. All the cuties seem to get laid off at some point.

Gee, I wonder why.

>>121138765
I'm right now flying either a P72 or M50 with fixed max size neutron cannons and MKB. And I'm doing good and have fun.

Also, is there anybody who will sit in a turret and control it with a joystick? Unironically? (Yes, I acknowledge that they shouldn't be able to 360 instantly)

>>121139475
I considered that but it depends how they implement it

if there's lots of mass or low jerk etc. then it might be more intuitive than mouse

>>121139610
True. Although based on what we saw so far it appears to be almost instant.

IT'S AN ALPHA

>>121137980
>>Savvy pilots will quickly learn to use decoupled mode and boost to brake with their mains as quickly as possible. Conversely, pilots will find that attempting to change course 90 degrees by using decoupled mode is an express ticket to sleepsville since the high sustained g-forces of such a maneuver lead to rapid black or red-out.
All good except this one, that one doesn't make sense if you're in vacuum. But I kinda understand they need it for gameplay purposes

>>121140578
>decouple
>turn 180
>boost
>brake

It's how you do it in space

>>121140578
I think what they mean is decouple > 90 turn >recouple. if the IFCS tries to compensate for the extreme speed you were going and slam into a sideways stop then yeah, you'll be spitting blood out your eyeballs. but the maneuvering thrusters shouldn't have the power to do that anyway, especially if >>121141209 works without killing you.

>>121139475
P72 isn't in the game, typical dipshit phoenix owner I'm also a phoenix owner

>>121141280
With the new flight model we're getting mav thrusters turned down and main engines tuned up.

If you decouple, turn 90 degrees and slam on your main engines, which can now propel you to 1000m/s in 15-20 seconds, 5-7 lateral Gs is going to knock you the fuck out.

>>121140578
>>121141280
I think they just mean it will take a lot longer to accelerate that much

and up/down/left/right g's knock you out faster than forward/back

>>121143253
But you can fly the Merlin? Buying it as stand alone either with money or REC

>>121143964
The merlin is the P52.

>>121144084
Then I fucked that up. Is there a P72 coming then or did I just fuck up?

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08703814 ?

>>121143286
>turn 90 degrees and slam on your main engines
> lateral Gs
that's not (rl) physics works
you will be changing your vector only from your (current) back, there will be no lateral G's if you turn 90 and only thrust forward

>>121144607
That would be breaking the rules of the IFCS that limits your possible top speed.

So no, you would be stopping your original vector, inducing Gs.

>>121144752
Well, ok, if the IFCS starts to brake laterally if you thrust forward in decoupled, then yeah, the automatic thrusting from IFCS itself would kill you.
If they implement it that way, than it sucks. But let's say you go 90% of you max velocity (900m/s) then if you turn 90° in decoupled and thrust with a short burst with 100m/s dV, no lateral Gs would happen.

>>121144752
>Inducing Gs
>In a universe with anti-gravity technology

m80

>>121145798
Yeah, and all civillian cars run on nuclear fission

what, the technology exists, why wouldn't they use it

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Guys, i'm getting massive framedrops in multiplayer randomly when otherwise the game runs breddy well. I went in thinking my rig wouldn't have any trouble. Setting my graphics to from very high to high only gave me more freezing.
Also, should I upgrade my aurora LN to an Avenger?
I'd really appreciate some help with this.

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is he right?

>>121146038
Bug with 1.3, not your rig. Happens regardless of hardware.

Upgrade is up to you. Avenger is gud.

>>121146107
No, but who cares. Its just RSI.

>>121146142
Okay, was a bit worried there.
Yeah I really like the avenger so far. I really like my aurora because of the truck feel but i'll probably get the avenger to have a decent dogfighter.

>>121146304
Avenger is doing really well in 1.3 but I wouldn't expect that to last too much longer.

Besides, all the ships are going to change with the new flight model. It might actually fall more into line of what it originally was pitched as; massive main engine and weak mav thrusters making it a strafing fighter. Right now its just a mini Gladius

>>121145147
>>121144752
the mavs do not have the power to brake that hard laterally. even if they're all blasting full on to try and stop your original vector, they will not succeed. see:
>turning ability does not scale with velocity and coming to a stop can take much longer using the normal ship retro thrusters.

>>121146393
Okay.
Even if it were to change that much i'd probably prefer it to my Aurora.
It's so god damn slow that it's painful to watch.

>>121146107
I'll give him that the need to be online is more down to CIG's incompetence than willful malice; pretty sure it still cross-references with the fucking website to see what hangar and ships it needs to spawn rather than just having it in an XML.

>>121145998
>Racing around the city in my spess ship
>Blackout due to high G turn
>Slam into nearby building
>150 dead, 230 wounded, millions of credits in damages and legal costs
>LEL USING ANTI-GRAV IS POINTLESS

Not using that technology would be like a car not using seatbelts or airbags because its too complicated. In reality, not only is it a good idea, its fucking mandatory.

>>121146678
XML hacking is still possible, so I wouldn't be so sure.

>>121146809
Seatbelts aren't on the same level as a nuclear reactor.

Point is that anti-gravity technology could not be scalable. Could work for stations, but not fighters or medium ships.

>>121146809
>Racing around the city in my spess ship

stop right there criminal scum

Whar game Roberts???!

Whar??

>racing
The idea is nice, but there should be a whole bunch of separate ships for that, basically a handful designed to look like the M50, and only usable in racing, not in the PU. It wouldn't surprise me if people were allowed to fly a catarpillar or cutlass or 890 around those stupid tracks.

The other problem with racing is the shit design of the course. Now I don't have a problem per-se of floating cities in the middle of nowhere when they could just be put on the ground, but in a game where some ships can carry 20th century bullets on their ships, I kind of do.

And the problem with racing doesn't stop there, you fly through one of those hoops at 150km/h or whatever the arbitrary speed of the month is, and you have literally no idea where to go, because maybe the next hoop is 180 degrees behind you, and then you see other ships take a long turn around a bunch of buildings and fly towards it.

The courses aren't set out properly. There needs to be more indicators on your HUD and properly visible hoops, like in any other type of racing. Imagine how stupid urban racing would be if you just told cars to drive really fast through a city and they had to try and find the markers to drive through, it would be stupid and they wouldn't race until the officials set out the designated routes.

TL;DR Star Citizen racing is shit because the courses aren't clearly marked.

Also, the flight physics are wrong and feel stupid for atmospheric flight.

>>121150287
You know most races are going to be done in space, don't you

>>121150287
>The idea is nice, but there should be a whole bunch of separate ships for that

why, to add a whole shitheap of work for no real gain to the game as a whole? no.

Read the flight model post, too. Shit is changing.

>>121150549
>most
So they're going to develop 2 sets of flight physics?

>>121150710
Copy and paste the M50 (and all the programming behind it) and then have a bunch of people move around some stuff, make some wings bigger or smaller or tilted, maybe double up the engine or whatever, in their spare time or as pet projects, and then 6 months later you've got a bunch of racing ships, wow real hard to do.

>brb just flying my banu merchantman through this city to race

>>121154263
So you're suggesting an M50 with different components, even though this game already has modular components up to an including some structural elements

and you think adding an M50 with a 10% bigger wingspan improves the game on some level

yeah

nah

Battlecruiser 4 is going to be 4000x better than scam shittizen

>>121154852
weak bait desu senpai

dead

>>121158247
Well when 2.0 gets its release on the 25th like its planned to do, I imagine the general will get a lot more active.

>>121158709
>25th

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So Illfonic is cut of from the development because they are unable to make a working game?

Derek Smart is dead?

Still no release date for Star Marine, PU, Squadron 42 Alpha or anything?

So what the fuck is happening?

>>121161364
>So Illfonic is cut of from the development because they are unable to make a working game?

They were contracted to do a certain amount of work, which they did, and were let go afterwards like their contract stipulated. They were never a permanent part of CIG.

>Derek Smart is dead?

Hopefully, but we're not that lucky

>Still no release date for Star Marine, PU, Squadron 42 Alpha or anything?

Babby PU soon. Probably before Christmas.

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https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/661255338210009088

>>121164602
What about that 'bomb' Derek was supposed to be dropping any minute now for the last few months?

Oh thats right.

He's hot air.

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It's almost there guys

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20151101T00&p0=137&msg=Star+Citizen+TOS+v1.1+%2808%2F29%2F13%29+Becomes+Effective&font=slab&swk=1

>>121165212
Why should I care about this?

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Why haven't you gotten your refund yet?

Stay frosty, guys!


-Jazzpaws

>>121164602
>forums

What?
Is he planning on making a SA 2.0 where other cancers of the internet can jerk each other off?

oy vey

Idk what thefwa.com is but apparently the starmap is their site of the day. there's even a little banner on the starmap itself

Hi im new is this game pay 2 win

>>121170452
yes

>>121170452
>game
ha, a good one

I was away for a couple weeks, did they show anything worth seeing in the last couple AtVs?

>>121172247
AtVs? Not that I recall.

Flight model post is good, though.

>>121173902
yeah I'm reading it now. really happy to see it turning out this way. being able to continuously accelerate until you're outpaced your ship's ability to maneuver is something I really really wanted to happen. it'll make dogfighting far more varied and give the possibility of atmo-style chases to those who want it, and it'll increase pilot mortality by pancake, two things I'd love to see in this game.

is it still possible to get a refund on this fucking turd?

>>121175354
it never was

>>121175354
It's always been possible.

>>121175354
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>>121164602

Eh, I'm skeptical about star citizen still as they haven't proved anything yet, but Derek Smart is a joke when it comes to games. He has literally never made anything that wasn't shit

>>121146038
You're rigs fine except with regards to RAM, 8gigs is like the barest minimum to run the game, I'd upgrade to at least 12 but preferably 16. as is you can run SC and basically nothing else in the background.

that being said that isn't whats causing your frame drops, Alpha1.3 is just shit, I Have 64 gigs of Ram, a 4960x i7 hex-core and Quad 780tis and I still am getting shitting frame rates in general, random frame drops and screen tearing. None of this was happening in either 1.2 or 1.3ptu, went live and suddenly everything is broken and shitty.

>>121186914
Thats not true hes made some great fuckin flame wars over his credentials as a developer.

>>121186114
good reply
now reply to this

>90mil+ USD funding
>3 years + development time
>start game
>20s loadscreen
>no custom graphic settings, only 3 to choose from (it's fucking cry engine ffs that pretty much comes with the base SDK)
>get in
>horrible performance
>mouse is locked, doesn't accept y-axis input
>have to fuck around in the minute for 5 minutes and obscurely switch perspectives around to get it to work
>fps drop on a rig that would currently rank medhigh-high (GTX 960, SSD, etc)
>engine sometimes fucks up loading/rendering things
>clipping issues
>content 404 not found
>more clipping issues with the player/npc models
>which look horrible
>instruction sequence looks half-assed and unfinished (okay VA tho)
>non UI-screen is black until you fuck around after reloading
>UI is horrible
>controls feel mediocre
>absolute shit "maps"
>can't even try/check out other ships unless you bought them for hundreds of irl dollars

Okay, I'll have to admit that the design looks cool. But that's about it.

It's a fucking joke considering they worked 3+ years on this and got over 90 million $ from crowd-funding and god knows how much from investors.

Good fucking work. This doesn't look better than any of the fucking early access bullshit titles that are on steam at this very moment, except for the artwork/models/textures. And probably has less gameplay than most of those.

inb4 "b-but it's an early alpha!"
It's been 3 years now, dipshit. No content, can't even handle the basic game engine. This won't get much better from here on out.

That is all, have a nice day.

>>121186914
What would they need to provide to satisfy you?

>>121188103
Literally all the work thats been done so far is back end game engine shit. Everything out right now is pretty much half assed placeholder tier programmer art.
Also they're working on SQ42 primarily not SC. And we dont get to see any of that shit.

>>121188103
You are right, it has been 3 years.
Now lets look at development times for other MMOs.

I can assure you that they are much higher than 3 years.

>>121188103
all right let's play
>90mil+ USD funding
yes he made money, good job counting it

>3 years + development time
yes 3 years when you are building studios and infrastructure that's not a lot of lead up time, let alone do shit that has never been attempted or accomlpished before
>start game
>20s loadscreen
yes, an unoptimized alpha, i'm glad you can identify it as such

>no custom graphic settings, only 3 to choose from (it's fucking cry engine ffs that pretty much comes with the base SDK)
they have shit cryengine doesn't have and it's not even cryengine anymore and no that shit doesn't come base it has to be added numbnuts

>get in
>horrible performance
sorry your computer is shit, but when you join the big boys and update to a modern pc you can probably run it passably, yes you've once again identified a unoptmized alpha, you are very good at pattern recommendation

>mouse is locked, doesn't accept y-axis input
>have to fuck around in the minute for 5 minutes and obscurely switch perspectives around to get it to work
yes, problems in an alpha, wtf is "obscurely switch perspectives even mean?" now your are just reaching, but once again pattern recognition, alpha product doesn't work on everyone's computers the same way, gold star for you!

>fps drop on a rig that would currently rank medhigh-high (GTX 960, SSD, etc)
yes, and this game is designed for real computeres not yesteryears medium build

>engine sometimes fucks up loading/rendering things
HOLY GOD THAT NEVER HAPPENS ON RELEASED GAMES

>clipping issues
CLIPPING IS AN ATROCITY TO MAN AND IS AN UNFORGIVEABLE SIN, IT'S CERTAINLY NEVer HAPPENED IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2015

>content 404 not found
i'm sure you think you are clever, but you aren't as this doesn't mean anything

>more clipping issues with the player/npc models
by the almighty zeus that shouldn't ever happen in a game what the fuck this game is shit, i agree

>which look horrible
awww was expecting a western woman model bait, try again

>>121188661
>Literally all the work thats been done so far is back end game engine shit.
They are using a fucking out of the box engine with just minor extensions (when it comes to renderings/graphics/stuff that notably influences FPS) and still can't handle basic stuff like video settings, proper model loading or clipping.
>Everything out right now is pretty much half assed placeholder tier programmer art.
If you think those are just placeholders - fine - but unless I've seen something proper that's a big minus for me. There are plenty of games who put this kind of "placeholders" in only to leave them in for the final release.

>>121188671
About 4, maybe 5 years. Do you honestly think they will have anything that resembles a final build in one or two years? I mean, they didn't come far from the stuff we've seen two years ago. If they keep it up like this and would actually release in that timeframe, we would maybe have a shitty arena shooter.

>>121189267
MUH 60 EFPEEES

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>>121189267
that fucking fanboy denial
holy shit

>>121188103
and here is your second (you)

>instruction sequence looks half-assed and unfinished (okay VA tho)
damn i bet you can identify 2 squares next to a circle too, you must've done great in kindergarten, all this ability to recognize an alpha

>non UI-screen is black until you fuck around after reloading
while you may be good at identify an alpha these words don't make any sense and you should attend school perhaps to learn how to make a proper sentence

>UI is horrible
>ui is unfinished

>controls feel mediocre
these words mean nothing try using a thesaurus

>absolute shit "maps"
you've just devolved into shitty bait because you can't think of anything clever

>can't even try/check out other ships unless you bought them for hundreds of irl dollars
>baito desu the post

you might have had a few points if you pull your head out of your ass and stop being such a faggot, but shitty bait 2/10 would not bang

you are summarily dismissed thank you for playing

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>>121189754
>it's been 3 years
>i-it's okay guys it's an early alpha

>>121189615
>i have nothing, i know let's use an ad hominem that will make him mad!

you are done here move along smartie

>>121188103
>currently rank medhigh-high (GTX 960
HAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHA
i hope you realise its not a powerful card just because its in the 900 series, its the second number that defines its ranking
(spoilers, its the lowest, its weaker than a 780)

>>121189914
He literally justified it with "it's okay because all others are doing it"
Aka bugged pieces of shit are perfectly acceptable because everybody's doing it
It being an alpha is no excuse, after 3 years you'd think the devs would've figured the engine out by now. Or how the HUD is supposed to look in the final version. Optimizations aside, this is running subpar, even for something that's unoptimized.

>>121189976
So what
Gives a solid 50FPS on average with most modern games on ultra and 1080p
Drops below 20 in this build

>>121190434
maybe you shouldnt buy such shitty graphics cards then

>>121189876
>I expect video games such as this one take less than a year to develop

that sounds a little retarded senpai

>>121190780
Ati cards aren't shit

>>121191284
it's not his fault, the publishers have taught him when games are announced he only has to wait a year or less, he's just ignorant

>>121191472
>i know nothing about computers

>>121191284
No, I just expected them to come up with basic concepts they announced during the crowdfunding-phase some years ago in less than 5 years.

But I guess stuff like basic UI design and network/server protocols is difficult m(

>>121191757
Oh, also I should add:
>promise game within 3 years when starting the crowdfunding
>base goal was 500k
>cannot even deliver the base game that was promised within 3 years (or less than 5) with 90mil in funding
>most notable content that was added is pay-to-receive ships for hundreds of dollars

>>121191757
i think you forgot this game is currently in development

if it was announced as a limited feature complete alpha or beta, i would consider your opinion valid

it's currently in development, and has no set release date, or any current bronze/silver status

>>121191757
you should perhaps off yourself and save yourself the pain of life
might be better for you, certainly better for us

>>121192384
f.am is being wordfiltered to senpai, senpai

>>121192280
I'm just trying to put the content they produced within the development timeframe so far into relation with their resources and promises

>>121192516
>within the development timeframe
we are within the development timeframe

they said a persistent universe small scale testbed by the end of 2015

that's on track so far as we know, tell me how we are not on schedule

>>121192384
desu you should learn the new wordfilters, senpai baka

>>121192676
>tell me how we are not on schedule
I feel as if some turboautist is typing up some sperg piece about his opinion on the state of affairs.

>>121192676
They did miss fps, but they never set a release date for it, just mentioning its kind of close.

>>121193097
yeah, star commander was a fuckup, but it wasn't part of the major milestone infograph they released

not important, we're still on schedule

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Why are you defending SC/CIG

Someone posts bad bait / stupid /v/-tier opinions and you all come out of the woodwork to defend the game to someone who isn't going to listen to you anyway

The thread CRAWLS when you're not all shitposting. Just let it fucking die and let it be dead.

You do not need to defend SC.

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>>121193280
>being this transparent
>having opinions
>being offended by statements
its like you cant into 4chans

>>121193280
Called it.

>>121192954

>>121193280
Contrary opinions are bait now? What?

>>121193280
just chill out family, everything will be ok if you just be urself or something

>>121193476
Nothing to do with the game, just the thread. you didn't call shit.

>>121193437
>I am offended because you're all throwing shit at each other

??

>>121193280
Kid, u mad?

>>121193690
>to do with the game

I would advise you to read what was stated.

>>121192954
I feel as if some turboautist is typing up some sperg piece about his opinion on the state of affairs.

>on the state of affairs

Where was 'game' typed?

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>>121193690
Found the goon.

>>121193675
There are no contrary opinions or discussion here.

There are long, drawn out greentext refutations with 'facts', calling each other mad.

Let me tell you what happens
>Someone makes a thread
>It is fucking slow
>someone posts obvious bait
>suddenly 50+ posts talking bullshit from both 'sides'

>>121193979
Called it again.

>>121192954

>>121194060
It is weird how they all get so introspective after a shitpost flareup.

Niggas need to chill out, seriously.

>>121193963
i recognize this reaction image and filename combo

you cant hide from me, i know your tricks

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>>121194315

>>121193678
i'm not your family faggot, i'd fucking kill you and myself if we were related by blood
stupid fucking nigger

>>121195742
family

>>121195742
that doesn't change the fact that you are a stupid fucking nigger coon baby

>>121195742
>>121195360
I am shaking my head.

>>121195864
Peace be with you, anon. We have to have a little darkness in our life sometimes. It just makes the light even more beautiful when it comes.

God Bless.

>>121195867
なぜ一部の人々はそう何王ヘッドホモですか?

>>121195997
>tfw the bobross stream is almost at the season when his wife dies

Imma cry a little bit f am

>>121196047
>>121196047
>そう何王ヘッドホモ

What the fuck were you even trying do here?

>>121199047
理由の理由のため、文化的に言えば

>>121196047
Hiroyuki pls

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>watching an elite dangerous stream
>player brings up the map and it's huge as fuck
>think about how big star citizen will be
>decide to look at the map
>see the map
I should have realized this game was beyond a train wreck from the get go. Just fuck my space exploration up, Chris.

>>121200124
heres your reply

>>121200343
Fuck off I'm not here to bait.

>>121200553
>hostility
>general dissent against x factor of game
>defensive when accused

seems like bait to me

>>121200124 (You)(You)(You)

There you go.

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>>121193963

Hi senpai

>>121200124
>I have no idea what a Chris Roberts game is

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I really want to play Squadron 42: Episode 1. I can't wait much more, we will get it at the beginning of 2016, right?

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>>121204114
Sure senpai, whatever you say

>using 17th century naval terminology for spaceships

what's some good space specific classifications? I like battlestar, star destroyer etc.

Which ones were the goons or furries again? I always get the thread-raiding orgs mixed up. Are they both just goons and furries?

>>121205314
>>121202007

>>121189395
>They are using a fucking out of the box engine with just minor extensions

Holy dogshit this has to be bait. When SC was picking an engine their choices for high end software was Unreal and Cryengine.

Unreal wasnt stable enough and Cryengine had a built in tech to handle large world settings. So CIG went with Cryengine.
Turns out the large world shit was bunk and they had to develop the following things for Cryengine.
64 bit floating point double precision.
General Instance Manager
Local physics grids
GOST to manage ship modules
Physically based damage rendering

All of this shit is basically INVISIBLE to the player or coming in 2.0. Calling that stuff minor extensions is fucking gold medalist tier mental gymnastics that would bring tears to the youthful acrobats of China.

I literally think SC is shit in many ways but those things I brought up are not on that list by any stretch of imagination. You rustled my jimmies hard.

>>121200124
Here's your reply.

>>121206881
ay, didn't even censor my name nigga
no cool

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>>121206881
>>121207704

>>121208206
>>121206881
FUCK

OFF

KONG

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censoring is for faggots

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>>121208417
I'm sorry EVE and Elite are second jobs. Not everyone is German and likes coming home from work to go back to work.

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>>121208738
ED space travel > SC space travel

So what's this faggotree about goons giving their grey market ships to Derek so he can crash the market? Just another b8?

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Dialy remember:
You are defending a dream, not a good game.

>>121208897
As someone who has had their ship sitting inactive somewhere in the middle of nowhere for months, I fucken hope not
Cos ED exploring makes me want to strangle puppies.

The only thing good about it is some cool light bending physics when you get near a black hole

>>121209540
>gray market
>ship trading simulator 2017

A GAME WHERE YOU WIN BY GIVING THE DEVELOPER ALL OF YOUR MONEY

>>121208897
>comparing a game in alpha to a released product
>comparing a Elite Dangerous space waiting simulator to Star Citizen Arena Shooter
>>Keeping the thread bumped

Here's (you)r reply. In all seriousness I do like the sounds the Elite ships make for their FLT drives. Just take for-fucking-ever to get anywhere. I got work in the morning. Shit to do when I get home. I don't have time to commit to a second job that doesn't pay as a spess pirate; so lets get the show on the road and have some shenanigans.

https://youtu.be/Yb5OwnsdC1E

>>121209540
Nvm, got further in and is pretty obvious

hi im new is this game pay 2 win

>>121211661
Yes.

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>>121209856
>comparing a game in alpha to a released product
look senpai, doesn't matter if star citizen is still in "alpha"* we've already seen how they plan to travel, at 0.2c slow as fuck through jump nodes, and through pretty wormhole graphics

E:D travel is still better, warps anywhere in the galaxy faster than light, looks awesome.

both games travel look nice, but SC is small as fuck and with gimped speed

ganbatte senpai

*"alpha" is just another way of saying "you can't criticize my favourite consumer product", even betas are now called alphas or better yet, "pre-alpha" by fanboys

>>121210893
Yes.

I recommend going to steam and picking up a copy of Line of Defense for a cool $20 as it is the same as this and doesn't have spaceships for thousands of dollars.
It does have hundreds of dollars worth of dlc tho that are actually weapon packs for your character, but this totally not p2w.

Trust me.

>>121212159
>looks awesome

Yeah it looks awesome. It isn't much fun to play.

Have you even played Elite you stupid weebposting faggot? Even the forumdads complain about how mind numbingly tedious E:Ds space travel is.

>>121212159
this game is not in alpha, it's not in a pre-release state or otherwise known as silver or beta

this game is currently in development

base back-end work to get the game running, completion of the actual game engine, basic features such as fps gameplay and content for areas are still being added

the idea of this game being in alpha stems from the test bed alpha they promised to the backers, also known as arena commander

the actual game, as stated, is in development

>>121212327
>hundreds of dollars worth of dlc tho that are actually weapon packs for your character
That doesn't make the game pay2win.

Imagine a hundred pistols in Star Citizen, with the same stats but wildly different looks, that's fine because it's cosmetic. Selling super weapons for more money is pay2win.

Like Star Citizen is pay2win.

>>121212486
If you read my original post on this topic, I said it E:D space travel > Star Citizen space travel. I never mentioned fun, longevity, replayability, server populations or forum dads.

>>121212159
>anime reaction image
>contrarian opinion
>includes E:D praise

Guaranteed replies.

>>121212640
Have you or have you not played Elite?

Comeon weebshitter, stop dodging.

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>>121212864
No, I haven't played E:D. So >>121212660 can stop accusing me of praising E:D.

All I did was point out their travel system was superior, which it objectively is. Though the nice wormhole graphics in SC are impressive.

Now please calm down, senpai.

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>>121213151
>No, I haven't played E:D
>their travel system was superior
>which it objectively is
>objectively
>pretending all along

Can we have some competently crafted bait please?

Tired of this Steamchat tier efforts

>>121213151
I too love making comparisons when I can only see one side.

or

Something > nothing
Math checks out

>>121213734
Don't hold your breathe

KWA have about as much creativity as their Chinese cartoons do.

I know with the new current drop limits, the optimal clan group is an even split of Hellbringers, Stormcrows, and Arctic Cheaters, but has there been any research on what the best tonnage is for IS lances
>implying IS competitive

My first thought would be Firestarters, Shadow Hawks, and Thunderbolts, simply because of the tonnage similarity, but you are fucked since you have no ECM. Any change you do to add it in will require some short of shitmech, and having medium pulse Thunderbolts will be much slower than a lance of Hellbringers...

No matter what it looks like a lose-lose scenario. I really should just sell all my IS mechs at this point with the new quirks as well.

>>121214058
>all this falseflagging

wew lad

>>121214058
Wrong thread bud.

Kong general is over there >>120705647

>being this predictable

Step up your game senpai

>>121213574
What?

You can see both game's travel system. Elite Dangerous has the better system.

You haven't used SC's system, so by your logic you can't shill for it.

I have used neither, but can clearly see how they work, and objectively speaking, E:D's is better.

>>121213893
Well look at both sides, they are both there to judge for yourself.

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>>121214692
>still pretending

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>>121214692
>I have used neither, but can clearly see how they work, and objectively speaking, E:D's is better.

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>>121214692
>this whole post

>/edg/ just died

I'm sure this is completely coincidental.

>>121216254
You can say anything about the others but you leave Jude alone. That man is a saint.

>>121216557
Who's the hunk on the left?

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>this thread

>>121218761
>>121218849
yes

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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/294154/how-many-player-crewable-cruisers-battlecruisers-and-escort-carriers-likely-available-in-the-pu/p1

>>121219074
Fuck off Kong

>>121219162
Damn, you caught me

>>121219162
What the hell man, what makes you think I'm in with those autists?

>>121218761

yes

>>121218849

no

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>>121219162

>Kong

What?

>>121219561
>>121219472
You will never be the little girl.

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>posting an image with a filename referencing the title of the vietnamese picture-show in it is misinterpretted as something to do with an org

>begins an immediate stream of shitposting

Never change /scg/

>>121219561

>k-on -----> k-on + g = kong

confirmed kong

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>>121219998
literally who

>>121220313

You'll try your best at what?

>>121220564
dez nuts

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if only cig had procedural generation and freeform landing/atmo flight on uninhabited worlds, would be the comfiest thing ever

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>all this falseflagging

>>121221319

It would be similar to Elite, you have nothing to do and get bored unfortunately. There is already a superior comfy space exploring game around anyway which is Space Engine

>>121221398
>similar to Elite
yeah pick the one game that doesnt have planetside stuff

>space exploring game which is Space Engine
>game

parp

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>>121221398
>Game
Sure, if you prefix 'game' with 'not a'

>>121221660
hosed up if true

>>121221723
the very model of beauty, a strong womyn

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>>121221723
>>121221841
>>121221892
Will Star Citizen have gender diversity?

>>121221961
yes, the gender option will be a slider, and to prevent microaggression it will not feature a cis-male or female social construct as an extreme

>>121222057
what about hats what about races I wanna be a mutant

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>>121222129
baka desu senpai

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>>121222129

Oh spare me. You fucks have been shitposting here since 2012 when you tried namefagging here and got your asses kicked back to /mwog/

>>121222559
why is everyone arguing with each other isn't everyone here in the vederation

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>>121222651

Most of us are, aside from some random anons. It's these fucks from /mwog/, or gay robots general that keep shitting up the thread

>>121222763
>hurrr durr furries

Fuck of fiddly

>>121222763
they're not furry don't you want to be successful
>>121222868
robots???

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Hey guys I sure love space ships. Did you hear that the Corvette is still six months off and the Prowler just now got a concept artist? I sure can't wait to find out what those two ships look like.

By the way Orgposting is Shitposting.

>>121223291
they don't advertise as furry does that mean kong is too they have monkeys

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whens this game getting VR support
its shit boring on a monitor

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>>121222981

Oh real original, anon. Posting shit from kongs shitpost board i see?

We kicked the goons out and beat the furry out the group. If you don't believe me, come to steam chat, friendo.

Feel free to shit on confusion, we all do anyway

>>121223459

there's nothing to play yet other than repetitive commander

>>121223540
which would be cool as fuck in vr lol

>>121223554

I'm fine that they're into that, I just don't want them to force their lifestyle choices in my face. They're the vegans of fetishes basically. You'll know they're a furry because they'll flaunt it in your face

>>121223665
Vegan isn't a choice, you're born with it.

>>121223665
>I'm fine that they're into that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1P40Dt8lg

>>121223832

go back to ebaums

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>>121225036

>>121224338
where is kwa

>>121224338
Please remove my name from this image. It's offensive and I have no interest in being involved in this drama. Thank you.

>>121226260
doges can't talk i know i watched a documentary on it

>>121226115
Reminder that /scg/ is perfectly capable of shitposting itself

>>121089110
They probably show results because Chris isn't there watching over every bit of code they produce

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refund

>People cry that the game regardless of it's initial ambitions still isn't out
>They argument the whole time that it has 90M $ and act like they started with that as well
>They ignore the fact that CIG started with 3 employees in 2012
>They probably expect the same results they would get if 90M $ would've gone into a fully developed and experienced studio with a publisher behind them.

Shit, it's like they never worked in a company that got a major buff. Until everything works there it simply takes years.

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This thread is making me regret calling out mods for banning people that even reference Orgs by name.

>/scg/ gets nostalgic for org posting
>gets orgposting
>still complains

>>121231220
You forgot to add with bugs and empty servers as well.

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>>121231954

>>121231954
Hey man I was enjoying.

But somehow a faggot was getting triggered by specific kinds of shitposting.

Talk about elitism.

>>121234230
Triggered? Did Tumblr migrate here? Did you tell them this was 4chan?

>>121200124
All that space in EVE and ED, yet nothing to do.

>>121189395
>If they keep it up like this and would actually release in that timeframe, we would maybe have a shitty arena shooter.
but we already have that, we've had it for a year or two

>>121234379

The term "triggered" is often used ironically on 4chan nowadays.

>>121235527
This restores my faith

>>121222981
> Scanty-fag

How utterly predictable.

>>121221319
I wonder how close we can get to those fuckoff massive moons in large world. I'd love to dogfight across the surface of one, even just have it close enough that it makes up two horizons. an empty, scarred plain that stretches on endlessly as the backdrop of a fight or a race, or even just hanging out in your multicrew ship with some bros.

>>121238114
That will take imo 2-3 years after PU 1.0 is released, no bait or whatever intended.

>>121238625
if that's not bait then you're retarded for real because you can get that close to the planet in broken moon right now. seeing as the moons are entirely encompassed by large world and it probably won't have 'gamey' world barriers like AC but instead just nothingness beyond the border of the developed area, how are they going to stop you getting close and why would they. once you get close enough to touch the surface it'll be clear that it's a bit wonky with textures that aren't quite scaled right and a surface that doesn't quite appear at the sale plane as the textures, but unless you're actually touching it that doesn't matter, there's no reason for them to prevent you getting close enough that you'd be in atmo if there was one.

>>121212640
Hi, Derek

>>121238974
Right now it's planned that if you get too close to a planet you will first get a warning and then get destroyed. The first installment of landing on a planet will be designated landing zones. The rest will probably be off limits for quite some time.

The reason for that is that they want to make stuff as handmade and distinctive as possible, not like ED with their 400 million space potatoes that ended up all being quite similar and therefore boring. There is a reason why they build up such a huge lore around this universe.

Those reasons combined with what was said about planets and moons so far is what makes me estimate those 2-3 years. I'm not saying it because I think SC and all is shit like some others, it's just a realistic scope in my opinion.

>>121096751
be funny when some faggot with a $10 mouse and keyboard set from Walmart wrecks you

Where are the webm's of running people over in social module

>>121238625
That sounds excessive, especially if we're talking about a period of time after which the PU would be done.