Ace Combat General #159 - /aceg/

Rise

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>3 posts
>already using <<Rise>>

Why do we even bother trying to keep these fuckers alive?

>thread's on page ten at just past 30 minutes since the last post
>go to page ten
>oldest thread is at about an hour and forty since its last post
>oh we're fine, I'll go grab dinner
>come back
>archived at just over an hour since the last post
Going into the catalog shows that basically everybody was making a thread at about that time. What in the world is going on?

>>120866901
not as bad as the great Fire Emblem porn purge though

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENvE6QZftD8
>tfw there will never be a more epic moment in video games

What are you're supply catalog wishes? Are you ready to be dissapointed?

>>120867301
Wasn't the recent FFXIV spam worse than that?

>>120867606
When are the new things coming?

One can hope for the DT, finally.

>>120867895
Didn't see that. I can only wonder how bad things went if it was considered worse.

>>120867520
>linking kek360
The sentiment is well placed, but for the love of god don't link HIS playthough

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>R-101 NC and F-4E 20

>>120867606
R101 & 20th F4E

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>>120869806
>>120869585
Kill me.

>>120869585
One day Idols will be there. One day that will never come.

>>120868468
Lurking the real general didn't tell me much, but I think some fag got called out for samefagging among other things and then proceeded to make a new thread.
Or more like twenty or thirty of them, I think. Forty? I didn't count. All using the same image.

>>120870734
Return of Dig-Dug emblems and radio messages are from AHL.

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>>120872898
End this miserable existence

>>120874906
Oh well, AB's won the thugby, so no riots at least.

>>120876619
>AB's won the thugby
????

>start both contracts
>host a room to try and get some emergency missions
>over 15 missions, get emergency sea strike 3 times, and the third time there's a server error immediately after the mission introduction that kicks us all out of the room

th-thanks bamco

i think i'm... done... for a long time

>>120877541
>x6 forced sortie weekend
>13 sorties to get SOLGI

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>mfw I played a moscow room earlier and no one flew an MTD

What are the chances? Should I go play the lottery?

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>Check catalog for ACAHL messages
>No "I'm hit! But how-?"
>No "I prefer the dominant role" or something along that line
>No "Nice going, Flame-O!"

There are no new skins, either.

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Let's talk about aesthetics gentlemen.

First, is our kit friend around? Any progress?

Second, the faces. PES editors are great but it feels like a waste of time when we don't know the faces of 90% of the roster. So, you guys ok with giving a standard head to all players except for the few that can be done (Pixy, Edge, Camilla, Chopper, etc)? I was thinking about just making all of them bald.

>>120878383
Got one like this earlier today when I was doing the SOD challenge. The rivals had two A-10s so the result was almost the same.

>>120869585
>>120869806
>>120872898
>>120878974
Seems like the worst restock since the Belkan tickets shop became a thing. At least more people can get the POOKA now. The damn thing is adorable.

>>120879184
Just do what you can with what you know, then bald out the rest

>>120879184
You could base it off of heritage for what each country in strangereal reps.

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>>120878974
Skin was given early... only been the White Tiger skin as a new item for 3 months. Guess might as well grab all the dig-dug since didn't last time... and doubt it will for December.

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<<Rise again dammit>>

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RISE NUGGETS RISE!!!! YOU ALL CAN DO IT!

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>>120885417
Did someone say rise?

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>>120865929
Because we have hope

Got a nifty sign in bonus for not playing for a while, meant to mention that but I forgot about you guys.

I stopped during the start of the single line event, got back in 2 days ago.

Bamco gave me 5,000 credits, 10,000 credits, 2 stocked fuel for daily sign in since, have 3 parts and 5 aircraft reports upcoming.

>>120865929
I do it because I swore to see this twisted game to the end. Too bad I failed in the last thread because I was busy.

Why are we rising so frequently?

>>120879184
It shouldn't be that hard to make a head for Belka right? I'm sure we can also find a pilot's helmet for our silent protags.

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>>120888191
The dealer gives you a free hit to get you back.

>>120888538
Cause this nugget sized thread lost a wing

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So, we going with Charlie Fragger? It seems like the most mentioned in the last thread but it wasn't a clear majority so we can set ANOTHER poll up if you guys want.

Once again, we need to decide the silver players, alt goalhorns and then the starting eleven. I can set everything but really wanted you guys' input.

>>120888538
>It shouldn't be that hard to make a head for Belka right?
I... have absolutely no idea how a typical Belkan face would look like. However, there is a blender for /pol/'s Polandball so a Belkaball head should be feasible. As for the pilot helmets, I had thought about it but we need someone with the skills. I could try asking blenderanon but most of the /m/ council will probably manage other VGL teams so it's probably not happening. Nonetheless, so far we don't even have a proper kit, so...

>>120889707
pic related

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>>120890160
As for the starting IX, I'd suggest arranging a squad in lineupbuilder.com or startingeleven.co.uk and posting the picture. The formation doesn't matter as long as the silver and golden players are mentioned.

>>120890160
Still voting Cipher, Mobius 1 as silvers, Chopper gets Blurry as goalhorn, Mobius 1 gets the victory theme from the end of Megalith as goalhorn

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>>120890778
How interesting

>>120890778
Part of me wants the team to be based around aircraft formations as a gimmick. But that'll never turn out well in terms of winning.

>>120890160
>I... have absolutely no idea how a typical Belkan face would look like.
Isn't Belka based off germany? There you go.

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>>120895081
IRL Germans are ugly as fuck though. Look at Rot 1, he was a certified qt.

>>120896669
Even then if you wanted an accurate german now you end up making a Syrian.

>>120897014
Hah

>No new posts
>Still climbing to the front page
Shit's getting real spooky

>>120898524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FMf8ltkCgM

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>>120898840
At least now we're back firmly in ded territory
And with that, <<Rise again>>

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http://kouhi.me/idol/

The only way to save this ded thread
wish there was a plane-fu version

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>>120902769

>neucom fighter is on ticket shop
goddammit I knew this would happen after I bought the Strigon CFA-44

>>120904703
Why are you surprised? It came the month after Strigon during drops.

>>120904703
Unless you have a nostalgic attachment, you won't miss it, millions of credits to upgrade and BTFO by level 10 Su-35's.

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>>120902769

>>120905006
I like flying pretty looking planes if only in flight tests,

>>120867606
Idol emblems.

>>120879184
I don't suppose you can cover their faces with a flight helm-esque paint design?

>>120902769
Where's my Anastasia emblem?

>>120905165
I wasn't that fond of the screen myself. Reminiscent of "Jet" but I felt a little sea sick.

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>>120905964
Forgot pic.

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>>120902769

>last sortie of the day
>red henge
>3 stocked fuel
>destroyed all cannons save for 1
>guy on comms keeps saying "delay the final attack"
>nobody killed it before we cleaned everything
>S rank
>see all 6 out of 7 challenges completed

feels good when you're doing an emergency sortie and everyone knows what they're doing and with the right mix of air/ground coverage

ded

>>120910229
<< Survive. >>

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Why do you still fight, /aceg/? What hope do you have left for this twisted game?
There will never be more campaign missions.
There will never be more maps following said missions.
All we have to look forward is more goyplanes, the ever so occasional little guy like the Tornado, and simply adding a (HARD) to all existing maps. Even tournaments are half-reruns, half new stuff now.

>>120911903
>Why do you still fight, /aceg/? What hope do you have left for this twisted game?
Idolplane rerun.

After 3 months of playing the game, I've finally reached a respectable point in terms of progress. Got my Morgan to 9, Falken to 5 and All parts researched. What now /aceg/?

>>120911903

>Why do you still fight, /aceg/?

I begun playing 3 weeks ago for the idols and I found a good game. So I guess I'll keep playing until I get bored or no more idols.

ded

>no AC7
>no future non-F2P AC releases whether or not it is HD collection of past AC or AC6 port
>PS4 won't get AC
>XBONE probably only getting backward compatibility of AC6 on X360
>PC only stuck with ACAH, Vector Thrust, HAWX, and Raiders Sphere 4th

ded franchise. Lost hope

>>120918339
<<Don't give up! Our air support will do something!>>

>>120920950
Yes << >> No

>>120922148
<< No >>

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ded again

<<Ruse, Risegriz>>

>>120922148
Didn't reply

Why do neither of the F-14s have the XLAA?

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>>120902769

>>120925906
They do, it's just called 6AAM now

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>>120902769

>>120911903
I don't really know.

I never cared about MR (to the point I've tried to never join a room with a host with lower MR) but after getting to 1900, it started to bother me. I've plummeted due to the recent idol and GE challenges (around 1850 now) and it made me paranoid because I know people will kick me if we get in a good raid, I won't get invites because I'm weak and I feel incredibly humiliated when I hear all the stories about delivering justice to whales and clubbers or how Reapers are always bad when in reality these things never happen to me.

So the games I join are always a struggle to try outscoring everyone and keeping my MR alive while trying to manage all the challenges. And that means spending a lot of time trying to find rooms with the maps I excel (pipeline HARD and Adriatic) but it feels like the mid 1800s are a kind of limbo, because you can't find people around that hosting - it's always 1900+ and I know I'll get curbstomped by the host. And there's nothing I can do about it. The mere search for a room became something that took the fun away.

I just wanted to fly different planes, have fun, but absolutely everyone outscores me unless I'm flying my OP plane. My pride doesn't let me take advantage of the nuggets. Infinity offers a wide variety of planes and punishes the player that wants to experience that in favor of good goyim who invest everything in a single machine.

And I didn't even start on how I actually changed my daily schedule to fit the playing sessions every 12h and my hate for PvP when TDM starts.

Goddamn, I'm almost dropping this game after writing all that. I don't know if I'm feeling like crying or bursting out in rage.

Just popped a contract and then immediately lost the desire to play.

>>120927981
Just play with friends.

I miss the era of arcade combat flight sim, which is the 90s till early 2000s. This music, although not from an Ace Combat game but still from an arcade combat flight game, is one of those making me wanna go back to that era
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvQHYa0XwII

>>120927981
Welcome to ACI, where hope, dreams, and life goes to die
This twisted game isn't worth that much suffering. Just leave it, embrace other frontiers

>>120928979
Turn and Burn was fun. Had to make every missile count.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=13gyVcz5Bow

>>120931918
Also, Super Air Diver. One of the early Ace Combat-esque game....on SNES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkedJAme_h8

>>120931918
Well, if you're out of missiles, you can "cheat" your way by draining all of your cannon. That way you are allowed to rearm on carrier because you are completely unarmed.

>>120927981
<< It's time. >>
When a hobby isn't fun anymore, you give it a break. In ACI's case though, I'd permanently uninstall the cancer cold turkey. After that, simply reading people bitch about it here can still be amusing

>>120911903
I refuse to let this franchise die like Twisted Metal. Atleast they managed to comeback from their "reboot."

>>120933726
>AC is dead
>Armored Core
>never again

>>120917728

>>120928730
The timezone never helps.

>>120929017
>>120933713
What concerns me is that I didn't care about that stuff before, but now I do. And the fact it always feel like I'm completely overwhelmed by the other players.

I actually like the game. Infinity is fun when it comes to the core gameplay. I really don't care about my score as long as we manage to complete the mission, but consistently hitting the bottom position in every room I go, even against similar MR rates, has a devastating effect. Most of the stress when I get poor scores actually comes from knowing that I'm hurting my teammates by beng a scrub.

>>120938081
Which planes are you using?

>>120938081
The problem is ACI is heavily biased towards high performance, high-leveled planes, so you need one to have a hope of competitiveness
What are you using?

>>120938617
>>120939809

HPAA X-29A or HVAA YF-23 (both lv. 8) for fighter, 4AGM Chihaya (lv. 12) for everything else. I've got a Su-34 and it works fine mostly at Avalon and WBA but I never got anything good from it in other maps.

Yes, I know a 4AGM multirole is bad, but this is currently the best setup I have (enough power with regular missiles to hunt fighters, lots of ammo to deal with yellow ground targets while strafing), works well for most maps except building-heavy ones as Dubai or Tokyo. I'm terrible with SFFS and 4AAM can't compete with other stuff.

But it goes like clockwork. In Airspace defense? Someone will bring a fucking Vent d'Ange and LASM the shit of everything. Moscow? Too bad, here's a FAEB for you.

And fighters... hell, there's always 6AAM. Yes, I've managed to beat rooms full of 6AAM boats in my HPAA planes, but it's a rare thing. Most of the time my kills are stolen by those guys far away. Even when I bring my own 6AAM set it works like shit. I really dream of this wonder world from 2000s where people fly Foxhounds because I'm tired of ATD-0s and Wyverns and all that.

I'm actually working towards more planes. Got a Heartbreak, Ami is currently lv. 6 (I'll finally have a LASM set) and my Growler is also in the plans for ECM. I don't even know why.

>>120940147
Your problem can literally be summed up as: You aren't playing with an aircraft that fits into the A2A or A2G meta. The problem is, there's no real solution beyond embracing the meta at your MR. Hell, above your MR it only gets worse-how do you think the 2000+MRs usually got there?

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>>120890160
This is how the kit looks in the Blender preview tool right now. I'm considering importing it into PES now to see how it looks and to see if those problems with the shorts and long sleeves are just a problem with the blender or if it's the kit texture.

Also, what color socks do you want? And the captain's armband?

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>>120941803
That's absolutely based.

>>120938081
>I actually like the game. Infinity is fun when it comes to the core gameplay.

Fair enough. There are things I wished they changed or fixed, such as the Data Link system, but overall I like the game as well.

>I really don't care about my score as long as we manage to complete the mission, but consistently hitting the bottom position in every room I go, even against similar MR rates, has a devastating effect.

Part of my enjoys yo-yo-ing my MR with the challanges.

I get up to 2000s MR flying my lvl 10+ PAK, Pixy Morgan, or Fullback, drop down to 1600s pulling out level 3-5 low-tier planes, or even level 1s, for challanges like the current God Eater nicknames and emblems, them curbstomp against 1600s with my lvl10s back up to 2000s MR.

And, really, it's much easier to find matches at 1700-1900 than above 2000.

>>120940147
If you have Chihaya, why not make an effort to learn SFFS? It's very easy to defeat FAEBMTDs on Moscow regularly with that setup. Not that great on most other maps, but for those there's the 4AGM Harrier. You're even better off there since you have a Su-34 which can go fast.

For Fighters, it's a bit complicated. Yes, 6AAM can fuck up everything, but it can also miss entirely and they're left with a lengthy reload time. I would strongly suggest having MSL Reload M on all your Fighters, getting in thick and dogfighting with your turbocharged standard missiles, switch to HPAA if you have a nice 6 o'clock angle, switch back to standards and fire away. This also has the side-effect of making planes dodge, which makes distant 6AAM fire more likely to miss.
Not really familiar with HVAA, but doesn't it also have a pretty long range? Maybe charging the damage on it so it can one-shot stuff and then you can also compete for further away targets? I've seen YF-23s dominate the fuck out of B7R rooms full of 6AAMers with that setup, so I know it can be done.

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>>120941803
I don't know exactly how to describe, but is it possible to make the flames point kind of "downard"? In the planes it feels like they're going with the airflow, and considering how the players run I guess this is the same effect. Other than this bit, seems great! Thanks for the help

And we can only have this as the armband

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>>120941803
Also, don't wanna ask for too much, but there was a suggestion earlier for another uniform, with the Varcolac pattern. I'm not a fan of the teeth but should be easy to make and give a bit more variety than the 2p pallete-swap black/purple version.

What does /aceg/ think? Is it doable artist anon?

>>120940147
Just fly the planes you love and be at peace with it then.
I always fly with my A-10, Tornado and Nagase and just try to have fun.
Do they outmeta me with their craptorito or STD?
The joke's on them, I'm flying a plane I actually like and just having fun.

>>120943271
I'd pick the paint scheme from a more popular ace combat over that. Zero alone has plenty to choose from.

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>>120943939
Most likely. The dark blue looks nice, but very few have a darker scheme. Maybe the Strigon?

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>>120944193
Or Espada for spanish guitars

>>120944473
Rafale or Draken? That's important.

>>120944576
I was thinking Rafael since it would be similar in color to Strigon. Draken's X is a bit silly.

Razgriz, Schwarze and if you count grey, Yellow, Gelb, Wizard and Gault also have dark colors

>>120938081
What time do you usually play at?

>>120945527
Might want to stick to an easy color scheme, some of those are gonna be a bitch to model

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>messing around the hangar
>joke that I'm gonna level my SODs to 5, the deed will be done with a single button press
>my finger actually does it
What the fuck did my body just do to me.

>>120949724
It was all a scheme by Bamco to rob you of your shekels

>>120949724
Cant you just shut down your ps3 before you leave the hanger or does that only happen in the aircraft tree?

>>120950926
That was the single button left.

>>120951376
The one before leaving the hangar, I mean. Then the player information updated, and it was too late. I just don't know what was going on in my mind. But it's fucking hilarious that it happened.

>>120865929
Because I'm holding out the slightest hope we get SOMETHING new.

>>120945527
>>120948962
Guess we should stick with the 2p color for the time being. We shouldn't push our luck considering no one from here can make it and there's not much time left.

>>120954484
Something for a future round, perhaps
>implying /aceg/ will last

>>120952780
>New things in Ace Combat
>Not just more tournament reruns

Is it even worth getting a plane to 15?
Seems like it would be a big boost for lower tier planes, but I'm not really seeing the difference on a top tier fighter.

>>120958589
I don't know if it's a good comparition, but I leveled up F14A to lv 12 and raptor to lv 7. Despite of Raptor having bigger mobility stats, it seems like F-14 still outmanouvers Raptor. I even tried it on the same body parts loadout, Still, Tomcat seems to be better.

>>120958589
How much do you love that plane over other planes, and does that plane shady do what you want? There is your answer.

>>120960361
I like having many different planes to fly and good access to every SPW for challenges so I have a lot of level 5-9 planes.

Also, how do the number of points for a slot increase interact with NSUs? If I wait to add a slot on before getting the NSU would the next slot have less points needed than if I had upgraded before adding the slot?

>>120960361
I meant "... already do what..." Sorry, Swype was being a shit.

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>>120959192
>Despite of Raptor having bigger mobility stats
>trusting the statbars

>>120960946
The statbars don't lie to me when they say the Harrier is slow.

>>120961405
They however do when they say your A-10 has an A in speed.

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So aceg, what do y'all think about this painting I made a few months ago. I was going to do one for Razgriz, but then I saw how this turned out.
>>120949724
Hey, at least you got a UGB that is slower and causes a line of explosions. Thank God you didn't level up ESM to 5.

I've never watched a game of soccer before but I still vote and suggest things for this /aceg/ soccer thing.

The only sport I watch is basketball because I liked NBA Jam as a kid but I'm still disappointed the ball doesn't burst into flames and every other goal isn't a slam dunk

>>120961895
I'm Italian and I hate the shit out of soccer
Tennis and MotoGP are cool tho

>>120961895
I like soccer but I can't be assed to find time to watch it
I just want /aceg/ to have something to do besides shitpost about ded gaem

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This is what the kit currently looks like in-game. We might want to tweak the colors a bit? The collar can be changed and various bits and pieces of the kit can be customized but that comes later after the texture is finalized.

>>120961895
They're streaming the babby cup on twitch right now. I hate soccer but this is fun to watch.

>>120964360
Any way to make the flames "sharper"?

>>120965034
I could try outlining them? I'll probably redraw them anyway, Nemo was talking some nonsense but I kind of understood him anyway.

<<Rise>>

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>Trying to do multirole 120 target challenge on Moscow
>Notice my teammate is doing the SOD challenge, I yield to him and go A2A
>He switches to ATD-0 at final moment
>I outscore him, but we lose because of his bullshit

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>>120964360
Maybe a bit less purple in the shorts? Looks great nonetheless.

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When?

>>120965961
I think he meant making the flames more pointy and narrower

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>>120962006
>hating catenaccio
Fair enough.

>>120961895
>>120962150
The best part of soccer is that you can literally play anywhere. Back in school we used to play on a slope with a crumpled tin can or a bundle of socks and sneakers as the goal posts. It was the worst thing ever when you had to score upwards.

>>120965961
>Nemo was talking some nonsense

Just as planned.

Now really, so far this looks really good, once again, thanks for the help.

About tweaking the colors, the orange bits feature a kind of gradient, and the flames have a thin outline, this might help making them stand out better, as well as >>120981034.

>>120982591
I was the fat kid in school so sports never interested me. I just played Pokemon Red in 4 colors. All of them were grey.

>>120959192
My ATD-0 at 7 BTFOs my F14A at 11 in every measure of performance. Weird.

>>120982591
>>120976404
just a thought, but have you considered moving the pattern on the front of the kit to the back, and painting the plane's underbelly on the front with things simple basic things like intakes on (think like a gundam or starscream would have) and painting the shorts to resemble the engine exhaust nozzles

/.A.C.E.G./
/aceg/,lets hear it!

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>>120992094

>>120992264
I tried :(

Why is it the communication only drops during Emergency Sorties? Is this Bamco's doing?

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>>120992264

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>>120993102

>>120990394
That's with the aesthetics anon, really. But it's preferable to have the back with a cleaner design because of the player numbers and names.

>>120994892
ah, good point

>>120982591
Forgot to ask if the tagline for the emblem was fine or did you want me to change "Onto" to "Into" so that it more closely resembles the original quote.

>>120998792
Sure, go ahead. I think "onto" conveys a better idea but "into" sounds better

>>120864181
I think the quote should be here comes the boom

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>>120999483

Holy fuck, piston aircraft's 20mm does shitload of damage against red planes. Flew Lv.7 stock P-38L in Tokyo for shits and giggles and it tore open Raptors like a knife through hot butter.

Emergency T-50s on the other hand, not so much.

In April 2015, the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA) released a report concluding that the next-generation U.S. Air Force fighter should be larger and more resembling a bomber than a small, maneuverable traditional fighter. It analyzed over 1,450 air-to-air engagements since 1965 and found that long-range weapons and sensors have dramatically decreased instances of dogfighting. With the increase of air defense systems using electronic and infrared sensors and high-speed weapons, traditional designs relying on small size, high speed, and maneuverability may be less relevant and easier to intercept. As a result, the CSBA suggests building a fighter significantly larger relying on enhanced sensors, signature control, networked situational awareness, and very-long-range weapons to complete engagements before being detected or tracked. Larger planes would have greater range that would enable them to be stationed further from a combat zone, have greater radar and IR detection capabilities, and carry bigger and longer-range missiles. One airframe could be fitted with various attachments to fill several roles.

>>121004607
So, Fenrir

>>121004607
>Ace Combat's fictional plane design based around increasingly larger aircraft is actually accurate to real life

>>121004607
FENRIR IS THE FUTURE
GLORIOUS LEADER NAVARRO WAS RIGHT

>>121004786
>>121005324
Leseanth go home
Aurelia stronk

>>121004607
I'm still waiting for my Boeing 747 with MTLS.

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>>120911903 >>120912951 >>120914225 >>120927981 >>120933726

>>121006397
>aceg reflects on itself.jpg

>>121005098
>>121005949
As of 2013, studies were underway to apply the lessons of the YAL-1 by mounting laser anti-missile defenses on Unmanned combat air vehicles that could fly above the altitude limits of the converted jetliner.[24] By 2015, the Missile Defense Agency had started efforts to deploy a laser on a high-altitude UAV. Rather than a manned jetliner containing toxic chemicals flying at 40,000 ft firing a megawatt laser at "tens of kilometers" from a boost-phase missile, the new concept envisions an unmanned aircraft carrying an electric laser flying at 65,000 ft firing the same power level at potentially "hundreds of kilometers" away for survivability against air defenses. While the ABL's laser required 55 kg (121 lb) to generate one kW, the MDA wants to reduce that to 2–5 kg (4.4–11.0 lb) per kW, totaling 5,000 lb (2,300 kg) for a megawatt. Unlike the ABL which required its crew to rest and chemical fuel to be reloaded, an electric laser needs only power generating from fuel to fire, so a UAV with in-flight refueling would have near-inexhaustible endurance and armament. A "low-power demonstrator" is planned to fly around 2021.

>>121011298
>Camilla laser drones
>LRS-B Compressing time and space
>Fenrir is the future
Just like my japanese vidya!

>>121011705
Ace Combat 7 NEVER because all the staff are being used to develop the F3.

>>121006397
I fight for the credits.

The more I killed, the more I earned.

The more I earned, the more I could kill...

Without beginning or end, the ring stretched into the infinite.

Ace Combat Infinity.

>throw some reports at a plane
>it takes a full minute to process
>leave a room
>this also takes a full minute to go through
Is the server with the flu?

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>>121006397

>>121016746
I can't log on ... so I guess it has.

>>121017306
Holy shit it's X4

>>121016746
Is the server down again? Cant log in for hours

New challenge; Lunar Dog emblem for 80k with F-20a.

>>121020763
>f-20
>yet another plane I haven't spent any money on aside from the initial purchase

>>121021383
Never bought it.
Didn't even buy the F-5 until these last challenges.

>>121021383
At least cheap, and leveling up every sortie!

>>121003972
That doesn't really make any sense. WW2 guns would barely put a dent in modern armor.

>>121025045
Unlike a TLS, oh wait.

>>121025045
>stealth fighters
>armor

lol

A modern tank yes, but aside from maybe the A-10 there isn't a fighter that can simply shrug off 20mm

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What's your goyest plane, /aceg/?

>>121025669
The F-35 can!

>>121029798
FA Spitfire, I'm 0% goy.
Scarface 1 XFA-27 has been my fetish since when I was a kid.

>>121030757
>Believing lockheed's propaganda

If that were true then their very own air superiority fighter wouldn't have a gun capable of penetrating the most modern aircraft armor

>>121029798
I spent over 200 fuel on the XFA-27 -S1-

Then I spent 200 fuel and got both Shamrock and Ridgebacks

>>121029798
F-16 -PJ-
I'm still mad

>>121012787
F3 NEVER because all the staff are being used to develop Ace Combat 7
or
Ace Combat 7 NEVER because all the F3 are being used to develop the staffs
or
F3 NEVER because all the Ace Combat 7 are being used to develop the staffs

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>>121031128
Do not bully the fat raptor

>>121031813
I also got PJ. It took me about 60 fuels so I'm not too mad about the fuel expenditure.

Giving Windhover as a handout, and making it the absolute best F-16C (save for a small speed advantage to the PJ) and having it start at level 5, and allowing it to reach 15 without forms are really unfair.

I understand stats being better. After all, it's the game's power creep. The last two points are the only really sore ones, a gigantic fuck you to those who got the PJ.

I can understand giving roughly equivalent, competitive aircraft as lower end rewards, but the Windhover was just too much better than the PJ.

F-15C Pixy, F-15C Cipher and F-16C PJ upgrade when?
Why won't you give rest to PJ's soul, PA? It
s been 20 years.

>>121029798
just got my R-101 neucom to level 2, working on getting the CFA-44 strigon to level 3

I have other planes at max level but these two planes are crazy on the credits

>>121031839
>Staff never because all the F-3 are being used to develop Ace Combat 7

>>121029798
>Buy L1 XFA-27
>never use ever.

>>121032427
>Staff never because all the Ace Combat 7 are being used to develop F-3

>>121029798
Fenrir.

>>121029798
I spent the most fuel getting my Jean Louis but the most credits i spent on a single aircraft is mt A-10.

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>>121032408
>the Windhover was just too much better than the PJ.

And better-looking

>>121033904
not good looking enough to have a girlfriend back at the base.

Signups are open!
Apparently we need te roster finished so I'm taking the liberty of choosing positioning. I've got only one suggestion for star players so we're going with Mobius and Cipher as silvers.

Does anyone know how to properly set up a wiki page?

>>121029798

My X-49, half way to affording level 7 upgrade.

Fuel wise, probably my Akula or Oruma (was rank 350ish for that tourney), though I only really spend fuel for tdm, due to the large amount of dosh you can earn.

>>121034710
It can't be that hard, can it?
Because I have no fucking clue how to do it and I'm seriously considering giving it a shot

>>121034710
Kitfag here. I'm pretty sure you can change the roster as much as you want so long as it's before the export deadline. I can also help you set up your page, it's not hard, just copy somebody else's page.

>>121029798
Easily the Rena Night Raven, fun fact its also the first SP plane to get its own nicknames, and no 1 still has gotten it to 15 yet.

>>121039118

Block 1 Morgan has nicknames as well.

>>121039190
That's only because it was in the standard tree first, then placed as a SP aircraft.

>>121038379
>>121038937
Alright, thanks. We got a placeholder for now.

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//aceg/

Gonna work on it during this week

>>121039806
Just to be sure, anyone could edit this, right? Because I'll probably throw some work at it later

>>121039659
But there was no special tree originally. I just remembered that using the Block 1 gives different lines at the start of the mission. Same with the Inferno skins. It's been a long time since I've heard them.

>>121041494
As long as you have an account, yeah
I'll post the complete roster list later

>>121029798
The F-5E -Pisces-.

No seriously, it's the only event plane tourney plane I've ever gotten and the only one I ever bought fuel for.

>>121029798
X-29A -EX-

Got it by accident due to idolpocalypse and learned to love the damn bastard.

I really wanted to develop my Wyvern or a XFA-27 but I know it's impossible

>>121029798
The Cipher is the only tournament reward I ever bought fuel for. Only other time I bought fuel was for the idolplane event.

>>121029798
Don't have any of the superplanes.

Goyest would be Mobius. Also have X-29 -EX- and P-38 -FA-, but those were accidents.

>>121046293
>tfw have mobius and never use it.
I wasn't even aiming for it. I just got it since I Mega whaled to get the Foxhound to 37 body slots during the event.

>>121029798
It's either Rena's Su-37 or Yellow 4.

>>121046542
>get the Foxhound to 37 body slots
Jesus anon.
Was it worth it?

>>121047718
It doesn't feel like a Foxhound anymore. I don't like it.

>>121046542
Stop reminding me we will never have a community shop and I will never be able to recive a gift aicraft from a fellow pilot.

>>121047785
I hope one day my vanilla A-10 won't feel like an A-10.

>>121047785
People miss it turning like a brick?
Well damn

>>121048273
It never will.
An A-10 is for life.

>>121042910
Do you have any idea how to add the general's logo to the info box? I can't seem to figure it out

>>121053654
When you go to the normal view page, there'll be a red link for the pictures. Just click and follow the instructions (that's how I made the icon logo, just make sure to fit the size and format rules). It may take a while to appeara after you load it. Don't forget to use the new one (>>121003606)

>>121054114
Right, that wasn't so hard

>Ace Combat 3D radio messages
Is there anything tournament-able from that game? I've never played it, but the pattern so far is messages hitting the shop before the tournament comes.

>>121060508
Scarface 1 XFA-27, unless it's already been run
They've done emblem and skin(?) challenges for most of the enemy ace squadrons

My reaction when I calculated that taking Cst 700 SP planes from 15 to 20 when it's unlocked would cost me about 50 million.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbI-0Udwhio

>>121060508
Yeah, I was expecting an AC2 tourney as well based on that.

>>121060757
Has been run already this year, but that shouldn't stop scamco. They could also run the flanker, which was ALSO run this year.

Su-47 > all

>>121061416
Kupchenko pls

>>121061350
I stll hope for some Tekken crossover when T7 will come out. I'd like to lay my hands on these sick Tekken flankers.

>>121060508
>>121060757
Someone said that Cocoon Rafale might be this month's drop, and I'm going to guess that the upcoming tournament will be for the rest of the Cross Rumble planes or Nagase Shinden.

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>>121062219
>Nagase Shinden as tournament prize
The dream is dead.

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>>121061416
>Forward swept wings

>>121061416
Sugoi pls fix T-50

>>121062587
I can't see them making it as a drop or a challenge reward since it's 775 cost and not a goy plane.

>>121062219
don't forget
part 2 of cinderella girls

I'm not expecting a tourney this weekend, considering that the tourney ends on wednesday, giving relatively little notice for a weekend event, since announcements generally come right after a tournament ends.

>>121068995
I'm guessing an update is happening on the 6th since that's when a bunch of challenges end.

>>121069253
That would give them enough time to update, break the game, and update again to fix the game before tournament turbowhale weekend

>>121069535
I hope we get an actual new co-op mission or special raid
or Ace of Aces difficulty

>>121069253
>>121069535
Doubtful. The 6th is a Friday.Game updates are done by going into maintenance on Tuesday, and coming back online on Thursday. The sole exception of the piston update, which was meant to be maintenance on Wednesday, game back online on Friday. And as well all know <<It didn't work out.>>

>>121070637
Sorry, no. It was meant to start on Tuesday like usual, but there was a failure , and the game couldn't even go into maintenance. So updating a game on Friday? Not a chance.

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<< A Super Sylph!? >>

>>121075018
<<NO>>

>>121075049
<< DAMN >>

Okay, fuck this, I'm getting a doritoraptor. I need to grind for vanilla version and already have an Aries. Grind or invest in Aries?

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>>121075961
Dont be a shitboy and get litterally any other attacker

>>121075961
Don't be a flaming faggot and invest in something that isn't Doritos™ branded

>>121076331
I need something for attacker challenges and my lv 5 F-2 -NG- is outclassed by aries on lv 1 by a mile. It's tempting as fuck.

>>121076741
>my lv 5 F-2 -NG- is outclassed by aries on lv 1 by a mile
Get gud nugget,my nagase is at 4 and i can wipe the floor with all but the doritoest of doritos

>>121076703

Literally nothing wrong with the Doritofalcon

>>121075961
It is OK, I usually just save it for TDM now though.

>>121076937
It's too fucking slow, and I have no access to better speed enhancing parts not that parts slots would let me to install it. It flies like a mud. Also, how the fuck you can wipe doritos with that rocket launcher?

>>121075961
If you're deadset on it, vanilla is superior. Stats and costs are largely the same, but it can go above 10 without the need of crappy forms.

>>121077384
I can fit comp L and acel L no problem,learn how to manuver smart and learn to aim your rockets right and youll be raking in all the dorito tears

>>121077676
Neh, I just need something to get the challenges, I'm not particulary skllful in A2G combat. I need something that's fast enough to catch up with other doritos and MTDs and actually get some hits.

>>121077860
>comp L and acel L
That's what i meant with "better parts"

>learn to aim your rockets right
Any protips?

>>121077973
For the SFFS? upgrade the Mirage why not?

>>121078683
Not only SFFS, I meant attackers as a whole. All I have are A2A fighters (that's where I'm feeling best), and while I can fart some damage here an there, fighters won't grant me everything.

>>121078158
Learn to yaw properly. Rockets go mostly straight with a slight downwards fluctuation due to gravity, so you'll need to aim a bit above. If you're leveled, you can hit a large straight line of targets going directly towards it, or if you're facing it sideways, yaw for the same effect. It's hard to aim when doing turns and stuff so avoid that.

So how do the point costs for the slots work? LIke if I sit on the level 5 -> 6 upgrade and put a slot or two on, will the point cost of the third slot be less than if I had gotten the two slots that come with the 5 -> 6 upgrade?

>>121079080
The XL pulls its weight, cheap to upgrade now too.

>>121080684
Upgrade gets you another 2 slots, no discount.

>>121080684
Extra slots from NSUs and extra slots from the points system are non-related, so the cost is the same either way

>>121080537
thanks m8

<<Rise>>

Remember to be a good wingman and use ECM to protect your friends.

<<Rise again dammit>>

>>121091169
<< Negative. >>

>>121091169
<<May you rest...In quiet slumber>>

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Gentlemen, I have good news.
Other than aesthetics and the fluff, the team is ready to hit the pitch.
Now it's a good time to see if we can get testers. I'll try installing in another machine but in my toaster the matches run in slow motion, literally, and I'm afraid to fry the processor by doing that.

I still need to arrange the squad numbers, fix some faces (I've got help to make the pilot helmets) and wait for the kits. Other than that, the stats, heights and everyhting are in order. I've arranged the team in a way to optmize the 3 strategies, so if anyone wants to see a favorite player in a different position, it's just a matter of changing names and looks as the stats will remain the same for each position.

As for the wiki, great job real9! You may just need to fix the manager position - some people were favorable to Pops in there (and that's what I put in the game), so we can give ownership to PA.

>>121093303
Fair enough. I just used other team pages as a template, so it's open to change

>>121093303
That's a nice roster. I was afraid it'd be 95% memes.

>>121093505
There are a few notes about the names/shirts.
Can't have numbers in the name so 30 tickets will have "GOLDEN CRATE" in the back, being numbered 30, and Yellow 13 will be "AQUILA".
C. Fragger is NUGGET, Cipher has "GALM ONE" and Talisman has "GARUDA ONE". Finally, Edge has NAGASE in the back. I think with that we managed to get all the references together.

Any suggestions or criticism are welcome.

>>121087124
I'm thinking about an ECM plane. I'm leaning towards the Fencer because I like variable wings.

>>121094707
Fencer benefits from immediate access to ECM, which no other ECMultirole can claim, but it's hampered by its low CST and low ECM charge count

>>121094707
It has a cool skin if you managed to grab it back then. I'm more of a Growler guy though. Buddy Morgan can die in a fire.

>>121094827
only one tier difference between growler and fencer. not a big deal.
real killer is LASM vs UGB.

>>121094707
It is cheap now, take advantage of the research boosts. I took one to 10 this weekend. Get 13 pulses, more than enough.

>>121094976
Why the hate?

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>>121094976
>Buddy Morgan can die in a fire.
Yeah fuck you too pal

>>121095374
>not ECM only
Unless you missed out on the -AV-?

>>121095541
>>121095575
MPBM, hideous, MPBM, asymmetrical paintjob,
MPBM

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>>121095685
>this much shit taste
>in /aceg/

I miss in flight refueling and pre mission take offs, post mission landings. They should integrate that.

>>121094094
Question, whose going to have the honor of having their own goal horn?

>>121095685
This.

I never flew the Pixy paint scheme in Zero and I sure as fuck didn't fly it in Infinity. I enjoyed shooting down that abomination.

>>121099687
see >>121095763

>I've never seen this 2500+MR player before. Let's see if he's any good
>You have been removed from this room.
good game sir. let me play another

>>121100179
You should've expected this from someone at that MR

>>121100179
Do you know how many nuggets he had to trample to get to that MR? You think he wants to lose 100 MR in one sortie?

>>121101046
Does a man remember how many breads he had eaten in his lifetime?

>>121094707
Why not a piston?

>>121101639
Too slow at low levels, although not by much

>>121101639
I do have the P-38L FA. The problem is quite a few people run restricted rooms now.

>>121107187
Ah, yes the non-piston restriction. Here I am wanting to play pistons in regular rooms, and they won't let me. Even in clubbing rooms. You would think that clubbers would allow players to fly the absolute shittest craft available?

>>121107886
Clubbers only care about your MR
If it even approaches theirs, its' practically instinct by now that they'll kick you

Finally upgraded my F-15E enough to bring it into combat, replacing lv.11 F-16F after over 300 sorties. At lv.8 the Eagle flies so much better, too.

Still, I'm going to miss that Fighting Falcon. It pulled me through the dark times when Berkuts polluted the skies, and many more post-UGB nerf.

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>>121109613
>Exchanging the Falcon for the SFFShit Eagle

Shaking my head to be honest family.

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>>121109613
Take that SFFS to 5! it is worth if senpai.

>>121114428
As much as I hate to say it, doing that-buying into the meta-is probably one of the only ways to still have fun in this twisted game these days

>>121114643
True, but I've been taking out my tornado for some fun. New word filters, cool desu senpai

>>121115183
I forget, t bh is now desu and f am is senpai right?

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>>121115413
You got it!

>>121107886
They're afraid.

>>121115930
That's nice
baka desu senpai

>>121117027
Cool, that's how it goes

ded

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>>121123296
baka desu senpai

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>>121123486
baka desu senpai

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can puchis be aces?

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>>121124335
No, but they are cute.

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IM@S music emblems when?

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>>121125739
we can dream.

The emblems and planes already trigger enough players hearing J-pop might send them over the edge.

>>121126256
F-15SE when

>>121127995
>more F-15s
Fuck, at this point I'll even take more F/A-18s over more F-15s.

>shoot down 60 targets with HPAA
>sounds easy enough
>only plane I have that is anywhere near decent that has HPAA is a level 4 takane gripen
dammit!

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>>121127995
>F-15SE will never be a thing in real life because everyone thought the F-35 would be the future

>>121098669
I knew I had missed something.

We've got the possibilty of featuring custom goalhorns. So far there are two suggestions for Mobius one, one for Talisman and probably Zero for Buddy. Any other?

>>121132518
>got to have the S/VTOL
Damn marines ruining chances for good planes

but seriously though as much as I don't like the F-35 would the F-15SE actually be a better replacement in comparison?

>>121129962
Standard Hornet when?

>>121063781
B-b-but the Archer....
Having hopes is suffering.

>>121133128
I think it would be a good replacement for the F-15. F-35B will not work in air superiority missions. It doesn't have the maneuverability, speed (despite its powerful engine), or ammunition to keep itself alive in a sustained WVR engagement.

Technically the built-from-the-ground-up stealth on the F-35 should make it better in all BVR engagements, but it has very few missiles, and if it was forced into a WVR engagement, it will most certainly die. It can't keep up with the F-16, and therefore can't keep up with the Mig-29, therefore it can't keep up with the Flankers, including the Chinese ones.

And being in WVR engagement is NOT that rare. Rules of engagement and all, you know.

The F-35 is essentially a huge gamble on making the opponent lose energy before you do by firing on them first. And we all know the history of the air force and planes with "future war" gimmicks that can't fight the current one. If Russian radars get good enough at detecting F-35s, we are pretty much toast. Once you are seen, you don't have the choice of disengaging. You will be outrun, outturned, outgunned. You better hope your 2 AMRAAMs hit their target.

>>121133771
>4AAM - LASM - SAAM

>>121134259
Ahh yes, my favorite weapons for my avalanche: 4aams for air superiority and lasms for long range fastkills

>>121133997
So uhm, what was the point of creating the F-35?

>>121134492
the F-15SE doesn't fit into the whole "single weapons platform" idea they were going with then, no carrier compatibility (too big), some say limited stealth due to base design, no S/VTOL capabilities.

remember, the F-35 was meant to replace almost every fighter in the US military.

>>121134492
In case it wasn't clear, I'm not arguing in favour of the F-35, but in favour of the F-15SE.

>>121134492
They wanted a plane that was good at everything.
They didn't think about the "Jack of all trades, master of none" thing.

Also
>Avalon
>Me enemy team in -AX- and B-2
>We are my A-10 and a F-15C
><<Yo buddy, still Alive?>>
>A rank and 24k points
>The enemy team still let me go over the 140k points

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what have I done

>>121136882
I'm right behind you with 19 fully researched and about half the credits. Got more slots than that though.

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>>121136991
At this point I don't think more slots matters very much

>>121137761
Probably not, but I'm gunning for enough to add all three gofast parts.

>>121136882
Embraced your inner wild weasel

How to git gud with SFFS?
I know that going up or down changes the way bomblets disperse. But the effect doesn't seem promising. Tried some runs on the flight practice mission and everytime I dropped the bombs around 1/3 of targets survived, even when on blast radius.

I don't know how it can be useful in co-op when you have to fly extra fast and can't aim properly.

>>121139868
SFFS is weird in that it gets extra bomblets as it levels up, meaning it really starts to shine only if you invest quite a bit in it
Other than that, just stack damage and blast radius parts. I think they still work on SFFS