Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

First for Squires.

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>>119348092
This tbh fam

>>119348092
First for squires are jew dead weights

>>119348170
>Invincible AoE threat tanks with 10 second boss snare and party buffs

m8............

Squires are sluts and cucks reminder

>>119348170
>not having a jew class for when you log off

It's like you hate making money for doing nothing.

>>119348530
Im really hoping the rates are high enough so that not everyone has an alt Squire/Chemist/Pardoner. Theres already a built in system to vend.

WHAT KINDA CASTER YOU GOING, FAM?

>>119348616
If there's a need for a specific service then people will flock to it in order to try and make money.

A lot of us want to be the first person on the block to offer that service.

Besides, I'd rather have a bunch of squires nearby undercutting the repair NPC and each other than pay full price at the repairer.

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>victim girls and xration featuring tos

>>119349294
Cuck spotted.

Here is my new Highlander/Corsair build under new circumstances.
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/b65hzf8kwy/

>>119348983
ALCHEMIST BRUH

>>119347918
Are there beards in this game?

>>119349348
I'm not a cuck, I'm metacuckold.

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Someone know i where can i download the new client?
i still have the one in iCBT1 will that suffice?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/sy7q1xojjg/

Them removing cent threw me off.

>>119348170
>tfw going to exchange services for friendship
A-am I still a jew? I just want to make good friends to do dungeons and raids with in the future. No ERP though; shit's cringey as fuck.

>>119349610

Same client. It'll need a patch though.

>>119349632
>Dust Devil
It's Weapon+Dagger, you sure about it? I'd get Iron Hook for Tank CC.

>>119349805
>It's Weapon+Dagger,

Oh

I had no idea. I was just reading the little info the prompt said and it showed spear.

WELP

Guess I will get iron hook

>>119349720
>>119349696
Oh, i see. Thanks.

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>>119348983
Not a lincuck/thaumacuck/pyscuckinetic/cucknomancer

>>119350124
Fucking cancer emoticons.
What has happened to internet these days?
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NOOT NOOT

>>119350210
noot noot is for BRs
You're just being a retard spamming memes you don't understand mate

>>119349573
Victim girls is poor taste tho anon

>>119350516
>.
>.
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Don't you understand anon kun.

>>119350516
And i know what noot noot means too.
Say noot noot if you want brs out of the server.
iv'e done my research.
Mate.

>>119351631
No matter how cancerous and like /rog/ we become, we'll never be this bad.

>>119351631
I ain't gonna open this shit with a title like that.

>>119351058
pleb detected

>>119351864
we should be fine, as long as southamericans don't get in here

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>>119351631

>>119351631
My autism has been triggered.

Some more clarification about the Hand Knife combo, I messed up earlier.

The Monk doesn't have to be in it at all, the monster just has to be under the effects of Deprotected Zone.

KR lag means the debuff from DZ kicks in a second later.

>>119351638
>>119351631
>>119351391
All 3 of these in a row, can't believe how much autism this game draws to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYV2T0vWIO8
Never forget how cool Highlander and Corsair was.
No idea if it's still like this with all the changes recently.

Is there like a good write-up or video on this game's features and how it plays?

Something more general than the specifics shared in the OP.

44th for I can't make up my mind and I'll end up just picking the classes with the outfits I like the most, viability be damned

>>119352524
Yes.
It's called playing the game when it's out.

>>119352573
The fucking face doesn't even suit the fucking outfit and the fucking music adds more cancer into it.

>>119352818
Wow, so edgy.

>>119352573
Which of these builds would be more in-demand for parties?


Wizard -> Pyro -> Linker -> Elementalist -> Sorc C2

or

Cleric -> Kirvis C3 -> Priest C2 (Or replace Priest C2 with Monk C2)

>>119352524
Check Steparu's cbt review but bare in mind it's pretty outdated by now, this game has changed a boat load since KCBT1.

>>119352771
Most will be viable if you build them right.

Some classes just might be less desirable for parties than others.

>>119352912
>linker
lol

>priest
lol

>>119352932
Thanks

>>119352928
Sorry anon. i meant that the music doesn't fit that video.
I like Questro and TeMPs BGMS.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

>>119352517
Boss Defense was nerfed, but it's still fun.

I wonder if we're going to see some of the old favourites in iCBT2.

Maybe this time rhidz can play and the "GM applicant" guy will get banned?

Either way, I hope it's not just flooded with a million BRs. I liked the fact that by the end of iCBT1 I was starting to recognize people by name.

>>119352517
I'm hoping to go for a highlander corsair mix. The changes I read don't sound bad, but I didn't reach corsair during iCBT1.

>>119352912
Krivis and Linker are both very good for parties

Priest is kind of bad at the moment. Only Aspersion and Monstrance are even half decent.

>>119353294
The build in that vid is S1 > H1 > H2 > H3 > C1 > C2
This is before the circles change.

>>119353006
Thanks for the encouragement, anon.

There's still a lot of choices to make, aaaa

>>119353430
That's what I'm going for. I just hope most people don't go for a similar build.

>>119353468
Whats special about the rhidz guy?

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>>119353285
Hopefully, like iCBT1 most people will leave or lose interest after the first day.

>>119353627
I wouldn't count on that. People are going to metagame the shit out of the builds.

Even after they do that, there should still be a lot more useful builds than most other games.

>>119353815
I just want to be a special snowflake. I normally go for classes no one else will play in other games.

pls rate
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/kqd81y7pzm/

I want an offensive Fencer while still bringing at least some utility, but there isn't much that works well with it. Feel like this build has too many skills and not enough buffs though.
Fencer skills are probably not going to be final, will need to test them more.

>>119353812
The testers from the first beta blamed their lack of interest on how difficult it was to level, though.

>>119353812
That was only because smart people realized the futility of trying to play on those rates. Im not gonna invest a week or my life to see 1% of the game.

>>119354048
There isn't any utility in this build. It's just damage.

>>119354234
>>119354290
As expected of modern MMOfags.

>>119354302

Stuns, defence reductions and blinds.

>>119354378
I can't stand most games now, pay $XX to level.

>>119354378
Nah man, what I meant from >>119354234 is that I hope that the initial and second beta players get BTFO by understanding that it wasn't the leveling rate, but their short attention spans which made the game unfun for them. In fact, I want the low leveling rates back.

>>119354710
What is the endgame anyway?

>>119354801
There is none.
It's still in beta.

>>119354801
I thought there wasn't one myself.

>>119353335
What would you recommend after Cleric C1/Kirvis C3 on a support build?

>>119354710

iCBT1 rates were trash. It was done on purpose to stop people from getting to parts of the game that were simply not translated (which was basically level 60-70ish and above).

Anyone saying they were fine is insane, considering IMC themselves said they were purposely shitty.

>>119354892
Do they have any plans already? Like, have they said anything about it?

>>119354710
>>119354378
You cant troll me. Also the rates were not 'fine' considering the devs themselves said they were reduced below normal. We had people with the literal charts for each level and did the math showing it would take literal years if not decades to reach the higher levels on one character. The people who went full neet (bless them for trying) barely got to see anything extra for all that effort, maybe 1-2 more maps.

>>119355053
There is nothing wrong with this.

>>119355015
GvG pvp, I think. Maybe open world housing you can fight for, but that might be misremembering

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>>119354953
>>119355053
Faggots like you are why garbage like Tera is popular.

>>119354710
The rates were kept low because of shit translations and the fact that it was just a test for Steam servers. They were shit for a game with a projected level cap of 600.

Grinding isn't difficulty, it's tedium.

>>119355308

>Developers literally stated the rates were heavily nerfed
>Still think they were fine

Consider the following: In a week, out of 8000 people less than 30 left the tutorial area.

>>119355015
Of course not, the game is in closed beta and we still have 300 levels to go.

We probably won't have any info about end game until we see rank 10 classes.

>>119355458
What are you calling the tutorial area? Plus thats fine either way. MMOs should take years to level in.

>>119355405
>level cap of 600.
Oh boy.

>>119354939
Higher Cleric circles, Paladin, Dievderby, Pardoner, and Oracle would probably all be decent choices until Priest gets buffed.

My main issue with Priest at the moment is that they're supposed to be a very buff heavy class, but their buffs aren't as good as some of the other classes. Blessing and Sacrament have flat scaling and are just kind of bad skills at the moment.

>>119355458
Sounds good to me. Max level should be a distant dream, not something you can actually reach. I hate how all the games now days have you hit max level in a week or two.

>>119355601
Cool, I'll keep that in mind and play around with the skill simulator some more.

Thank you!

>>119355542

Tutorial area is anything lower than about level 60ish. Below this level you have a quest chain that takes you from area to area. Game doesn't stop holding your hands until around this time.

Also consider the following. With the rates iCBT1 had and the exp needed to level up. No one was reaching maximum level. It was simply impossible to achieve in a single humans life time. That's not even an over estimation. It would have taken hundreds of years to hit maximum level.

>>119355608

>You shouldn't be able to reach max level

Literally retarded. The developers will make content for these levels "you shouldn't be able to reach". Which is literally wasted time and money.

Why the fuck would they waste time and money on parts of a game people can never play?

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>tfw going to bed soon
>will be seperated from /tosg/ while sleeping
Why even live?

>>119355809
>hundreds of years to hit maximum level
This is my dream. I want to live a millennium hooked up to a pc grinding and chilling with friends in game.

>>119356053

>I want to live a millennium

I hate to be the bearer of bad news. But in real life Humans don't actually live that long.

>>119356092
Nobody cares who plays video games
unless they're BR in an MMO

>>119355986
They can focus on content people will actually reach and just make everything beyond that pure grind.

>>119356092
What an ugly spreadsheet

>>119356143
Good thing I'm American then.

>>119356301

>They can focus on content people will actually reach and just make everything beyond that pure grind.

So why not just make the maximum level a set number people can reach and focus on what people can reach?

There is literally no difference. Either way it's something you will never play, so whether it's there or not changes nothing.

>>119355809
who cares? I rather it take a long ass time to max level then be a rush to end game mmo like all the other shit out there.

>>119356143
It might be difficult for you to believe this, but I am aware and that is why I stated it as part of my dream rather than an actual goal.

>>119356092
>gone before I could see
>rip archive.moe

What thread was it even?

>>119356426
If the grind ends then I won't be satisfied. I don't want to hit max level and do shitty dungeon runs for ilevel grind like every other shitty mmo. I don't know why you think everything has to be like WoW.

>>119356393

Even Americans don't live for thousands of years anon. Stop living in your anime dream world. This is real life man.

>>119356454

It's going to take a long time to hit maximum level. The problem in iCBT1 was the grind started too early. It hit at about level 30 out of 600.

That's like playing a game where the max level is 100, and being forced to grind at level 5. It was absolute shit because by this point in time no one had access to anything. Your build consisted of 2-3 usable skills, you had no flexibility in where you could level up and the experience was the same for everyone at this point in time.
The grinds got to hit after people have access to the majority of their build and some choices in where they can go and what they can do. Not long before this.

>>119356426
Because that worked so well for other shitty MMOs.

>>119356050
I'll think of you while you sleep, anon

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>>119356567
It was from the RO general.

>>119356626

>If the grind ends it's shit I want to grind forever
>But I don't want to grind like other MMOs

Make up your mind...

>>119356707
I got to level 60 in the beta.

I'm not saying the rates should be like iCBT1 but it shouldn't be to the point where you can cap out in a month or two.

I enjoyed the grind though I wasn't one of the bitches who quit at level 30 and moaned and complained.

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>>119356626
Go play Tibia. It doesnt have a level cap so you can grind for eternity.

> everyone watching out for Black Desert, Blade and Soul
> none of my friends interested in ToS
this will be a lonely beta

>>119356991
Blade and Soul has an Alpha test this weekend and the closed beta starts on the 30th and will also only be for the weekend.

There is no reason someone can't play both.

>>119356707
Anyone who isn't a child with a short attention span got at least to level 50.
Stop exaggerating.

>>119356890

I was one of about 5 people in the game who actually managed to hit rank 4 during iCBT. The grind really wasn't that fun. The problem was I had like 2-3 usable attacks at that point (and a few buffs which were shit), I was also forced to go to the same map and there was no viable alternatives for long periods of time.

Grind isn't a problem, forcing it on people who have experienced so little of the game however is.

>>119356859
>watch out for these literal whos
go back to your ded game ro babby

>>119356991
My friends only got interested when I told them everyone in ICBT2 gets in.

>>119356859
I kind of regret asking, but at the same time if they keep to themselves there's no harm done. I'm sure there's some people in here who'll be pleasant to play with.

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>>119357104
I'm already playing it, but it doesn't work the opposite way, they ain't interested in ToS. And BnS is already starting to be the same as the Tera Community + Ncsoft fucking things up

>>119357223
tried already

>>119357128

>Anyone who isn't a child with a short attention span got at least to level 50.

Less than 10% of players during iCBT1 got past level 50. Infact, less than 10% of players hit level 40 and I heard level 30 players qualifying for a bonus key (which put them in the top 10% of players too).

I was the only person from /vg/ who hit rank 4 during iCBT1.

>>119357303
Then play with me anon!

>>119357146
I only had two days to hit level 60 anon.

I was having fun the entire time.

Different strokes for different folks.

I wish i could've got into the beta when it started but I was one of the Saturday people.

>>119357351
Yeah and those people need to go find a new game.

Bunch of people crying about how hard it was to level.

>>119357501

You had it easy. During the first 2-3 days of iCBT1 leveling up was retarded because everyone hit the level 30-40 wall at around the same time. Meant everyone was stuck on that one map with the roses for days.

You got in after that happened and never had to experience trying to share 1 mob among 3 separate parties.

>>119356890
>but it shouldn't be to the point where you can cap out in a month or two.
No one ever asks for this. In every discussion about EXP rates in ToS someone claims they don't want the game to be like this but here's never anyone in the thread who held that opinion or made that suggestion.

>>119357303
Literally Tera 2.0.
This is what MMOs have become.

>>119356991
My old friend who played with me RO back in early '00 gonna join me. Feels good.

>>119357640

You cannot tell literally 90+% of your potential player base to go play another game.

That's a good way to kill a game.

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>>119357647
Oh man, I cannot wait to go back to flowers.
>mfw captcha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn_O-YeD-Ro

That Snow Rolling + Fire Ball combo.

>>119358187
6. The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

>>119358187
Quit yapping and go back to sucking my cock while I taunt this mob.

>B-But its too hard to level!

>We should hit level 250 in like 1 week if we want to! And max level in a month!
Good way to make this game be complete dogshit and the same as every other mmo out there.

>>119358490
Agreed; pretty sure the devs don't even have enough shit planned out to even make it to 600.

>>119358490
lmao nice strawman retard

>>119358187
Other healer here. I'll just provide deadpan verbal abuse as I patch you up.

>>119358357
Is that from reddit?

>>119358490

>Leveling up needs to be hard!
>It should take a year to hit level 2
>And max level should take 20 million years

This is you.

>bitching about exp rates again

c'mon guys let's not do this

>>119358692
yes
http://www.4chan.org/rules

>>119358490
This. I hope the devs don't make leveling easy. Most the people wanting to hit max in a month probably won't even stick around that long.

>>119358843
max level shouldn't even be a thing tbh

>>119358843
Play literally any other MMO faggot. Don't try to ruin this.

>>119358645
Cry more, faggot.

The XP in the first beta was bad. But it should not be to the point where you can hit 200 in a week.

>>119358843
No that is you being retarded. I have no issue with max level taking a year to hit at least this way you have actual investment and it feels like you are accomplishing something so long as they put out content to level on at higher levels.

>>119352473
>can't believe how much autism this game draws to it

I think you're being a bit generous blaming this game for the autism. This is 4chan, we're knee-deep in autism to begin with.

>>119359005

Maximum level is not only going to be achievable, but it wont even take a year.

If you don't like that, fuck off and play another MMO. This isn't the MMO for you.

>>119359134
You first wowbabby.

>>119359134
Of course max level is going to be achievable you stupid fuck.

I hope we DON"T get the retarded beta rates when it comes out so I can hear you moan and complain and eventually quit.

>>119358490
One thing I loved about RO is how it doesn't hold your hand through a themepark.
There were turn-in quests where you had to kill a certain number of mobs but those were occasional events and required a party.

Compare it to the kind of shit we have now, I played Tera after iCBT1 and hit max level in 10 days and I never had to party up with anyone. What a shitty game that was.

>>119359209

I played RO back before trans classes were added. Max level didn't take most people more than 6-8 months. Probably took you longer though because you sucked at the game.

>>119359320
Couldn't care less nigger. Just fuck off.

>>119358994
>>119359005
>>119359134
Your riggt, remove levels and assign the skill points and attribute points to quest/boss. And you scale up based off gear. Gear will be soul bound unless freshly made from crafters.>>119359209

>>119354378
I have no problem with low rates during the live game, but don't expect me to invest a shitload of time grinding to get anywhere in a fucking beta. If I wanted to burn out, that's how I'd do it.

>>119359401

Why don't you fuck off? The rates krCBT has are the official rates (they've been nerfed from the retarded rates they use to be).

It's still not hard to grind.

If you don't like it, don't play. This isn't the game for you. Stop demanding everyone else and the developers change just to suit your personal tastes.

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>>119359046
>But it should not be to the point where you can hit 200 in a week.
Show me where I said this. In fact, show me where anyone ITT even wants that. You faggots are so delusional you don't even have any actual retorts, just strawman after strawman. Bickering amongst yourselves over something we all agree on.

>>119359630
Is every class viable in this game? Like could you stick to a rank 1 class the entire time and not be outclassed by higher rank ones?

>>119359679
You're crying about how hard it was to level in a 1 week beta. Where the fuck do you expect to be in 1 week after playing this game?

>>119359784
>You're crying about how hard it was to level in a 1 week beta.
That's not true. I called you out on a shitty strawman.

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>wow babbys will pollute my beautiful ToS

I've been hearing about people bitching about the rates and saying that in vanilla RO it took a year to hit trans-99/70. While I agree with them in thinking that hitting max level in a week is fucking stupid, who the fuck was so casual that it took them a year to hit max level trans?

Seriously, it took me six months. Dickwaving aside, unless you were a kiritolonerfag there were enough parties around that were full of people helping eachother hit the cap.

>>119359564
I'm not you stupid nigger. kCBT rates are fine. I just don't want casuals like you turning this into another WoW clone with max level in a week. Please fuck off and play some other shitty game. We already have enough subhuman retards flooding the game.

>>119359734
Unfortunately, it seems like there are certain trap options like Quarrel Shooter C3. You are also only allowed to advance into a class for 3 ranks max.

If you're asking so that you can still keep the costume of an earlier class, though, rejoice! You get the costumes as an item and can reequip them at will.

>>119359885
That's not true huh?

>>119357351
>>119357647
>>119357146

Sounds like its true to me.

>>119359974
I meant like playing as a Cleric or Priest the entire game and never advancing farther than that.

>>119360004
None of those posts are mine and they aren't saying that you should hit cap in a week.

>>119356865
Go play Tibia then you fucking retard.

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>>119359907
Maybe they will fuck off if we bully them enough.

>>119359630
>picking any class other than fencer
>claiming to be fashionable

Ruffians and irishmen, the lot of you.

>>119360092
You can't do that.

>>119360092
Eventually you'll have to pick another class, or just choose not to advance any further.

So I guess it's like RO, except there's no rebirthing for extra stats. Are you trying to be one of those perma-acolytes?

>>119360181
I'll bully you with my weapon tiers and weekly caps.

>>119360142
Go play WoW then you fucking retard.

>>119360272
I just prefer being straight up heals/support without any gimmicks.

>>119359907
if imc stand by their idea, wowfags will fuck off to pollute another game after the first month

>>119360303
It's just that same retard trying to force this EXP argument again, ignore him. Prolly some shitter from /rog/

>>119360218
>he plays the French
oi i'm laffin

>>119360352
You could certainly play a Cleric C3/Priest C3 and just go that route. That's 6 ranks, a full build.

>>119358490
It was too hard to level you fucking autistic retard.


>We should hit level 250 in like 1 week if we want to! And max level in a month!

Literally nobody said that, and anybody who actually wants it to be that easy is fucking braindead. It is possible for the rates to be somewhere in between "literally won't hit level 600 in your lifetime" and "hitting level cap in 2 weeks". Nobody wants the grind to be easy, but it should be achievable before we die of old age you goddamn mongoloid.

>>119359734
If you could rank advance up to c3 in something and choose to be a perma______, you'd end up pretty gimped. The damage rates for a rank1 class and a rank 4-6 class are worlds apart.

If you want to do a perma build, my best advice would be to level up like normal, go c3 in whatever you want to perma and continue to rank up after that. Afterwards, just dress up like your perferred class and only use that classes spells.

The long and short of it, is it viable? No.
Is it doable? Maybe

>>119360261
Why can't you? your character level is split from class level anyways.

Someone in every game does it, max level without doing some sort of vital advancement.

>>119360759
How was it "too hard" to level?
And why you can so fucking much about max level?

>>119360975
>And why you care
ftfm

Daily reminder that side quests show up normally for Koreans but are hidden for dumb dumb gaijins.

>>119360472
>Buttmad Irishman angry that his country's representative class "slovenly drunk" got dummied out.

>>119360759
The grind it did have was piss easy. The problem is the grind hit too early in the game considering it has so many levels.

>>119361150
It's a feature.

>>119359969
Are you retarded? When did you play the game?

On iro we had a thing that showed each person that first hit 99 on said respectively class.

It took 10 months - 1 year+ for every class to have a level 99.

When 9.0 came out they re did that event but for transcended classes.

9.0 came out 2005.05.12

These were the last people to reach 99 transcended class in the top 10 for their servers.

Notice the dates
>Sakray
>Confidences HighWizard 11/01/2006
>Iris
>Rosalyne Paladin 10/19/2006
>Chaos
>Chelsea, Sakura, & lil shiro Champion 10/19/2006
>Loki
>~Lex~ HighWizard 06/02/2006

>>119360352
here, man, no gimmicks, just heals and buffs

I went with straight cleric 3 and priest 3 at first, but you'll want daino for MORE BUFFS

it's up to you if you want to follow that, but I feel like I'm missing something fundamental in what you're asking for

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/sadt87g1cw/

There are two kinds of people in this thread.

People who think you should grind your entire life away and never reach max level.

And people who think the grind should be reasonable.

The first group however sees the second group and assumes they just want to hit max level in 2 days.

>>119361150
Gaijin is jap word, not korean, you dumb weeb.

>>119361150
Do you think that's a bad thing?

I don't.

>>119360759
Nigger someone reached level 80 in a week.

I already said the XP was too low. I admitted that

BUT where do YOU think you should be after a week of playing the game.

Matter of fact the beta was out like 5 days and not even a full week.

So where do you think we should be in 5 days.

>>119361212
>he plays the French
oi i'm laffin

>>119361334
>Using the word unironically.

>>119360218
How dare you call me an Irishman?

>>119361326
I'm off the opinion it's just one guy baiting because no one can be that retarded.

>>119361270

iROs level progression was better balanced than ToS during iCBT1.

In iRO level 10 was a few hours max, and then a little bit longer to get your first job change. It took you maybe 2-4 weeks to hit your second job change. From there the grind slowed down a bit, but within 3-4 months you were level 85ish.
It was at this point the grind actually started, but it still only took you another 4-6 months to hit max level.

In ToS the grind started incredibly early and just got worse. It was like expecting a Novice to spend a week to hit his first job change, then a year after that to hit the second job change (and 100+ years to hit max level).

>>119361326
No, there are two kinds of people in this thread.

People who think you should hit max level in two days.

And people who think max level should be a long term goal.

The first group however sees the second group and assumes they want max level to take decades.

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>>119361509
>merely pretending

>>119361270
I appreciate that you did your research, I really do. But I can't help that that was my experience.

Also, this was in 2008 and I had a lot of information regarding the best spots to level as a party. Still took me six months... so... sorry, I guess?

>>119361270
Oh turns out I was wrong about the first level 99 classes.

iRO came out June 1, 2003

The last of the top 10 people to hit 99 for each server happened in 2005. So it took even longer than a year from release to reach max level.

>>119361448

80 in a game where the max level is 600 is like saying it's impressive someone hit level 12 in a game where the maximum level is 100.

>>119361448
>So where do you think we should be in 5 days.

I want to get most of my skills relatively quickly, because a slow grind with half of my potential skill set is fucking boring and stupid. I think the grind should kick in once we have the majority of our skills, maybe around 150-200. The max level is 600 or so, right? That's still 400 or so levels of grinding. Let us get most of our skills, and then hit us with the massive grind. I don't think that's too much to ask.

So what's everyones favourite track off the OST?

https://soundcloud.com/spadow/moonlight-walk?in=spadow/sets/tree-of-savior

>>119361448
He probably wants a maxed character so he can whine about no content and quit.

>>119361745
>2008

OH you mean 3 years after transcended classes came out and a whole bunch more updates came out?

Amazing anon your insight is so great.

>>119361702

Considering no one has yet said they want max level to take 2 days, but multiple people have said they want max level to either be literally impossible to reach, or to take decades, I'd say your final statement is infact false.

>>119361836
That is quite literally the opposite of what I want, and have argued against that exact thing in the last thread. People rushing to the end of a game and bitching about no content are the absolute worst type of cancerous faggots.

>>119361702
>>119361326
I want both kinds of people to just fuck off. I'd literally take rate muh buildfags over you guys any day.

>>119361817
I think this is reasonable. Grind should be really intense, but not until we have a decent number of skills to make it fun.

>>119361516
Duel me about it, poofter.

>>119361994

Which is what I've been saying since iCBT1.

Naturally the "we should never hit max level" people translate this as "i want to hit max level in 2 days".

>>119361830

https://soundcloud.com/spadow/woman-peeling-potatoes?in=spadow/sets/tree-of-savior

unironically

>>119361830
this one is my jam

https://soundcloud.com/spadow/rondo-of-tedium?in=spadow/sets/tree-of-savior

>>119361817
When you change jobs the first few skill points are a joke to obtain.

I know you're a new mmo babby though.

I just hope they don't listen to you faggots.

>>119361918
>>119361918
>but multiple people have said they want max level to either be literally impossible to reach, or to take decades
What's wrong with this though?

>>119362191
Dead game.

>>119362191

The problem with this is it's a waste of developers time and effort to make a game where you cannot hit maximum level.

Or is this concept too hard for you to understand?

>>119362078
Very well. Let our fight be under the watchful eyes of Korea, may they judge who is right by the measure of our skill and determination!

>>119361918
>Decades

No, But I have no problem with it taking 1 year + to hit max level.

I seriously hope it takes at minimum 1 year.

>>119361830
I'm disappointed at ToS soundtracks so far. I'll pick up 3rd wave if I must answer against the question I get asked.

Will this game have an erp community?

>>119362301
explain


>>119362381
As opposed to making a bunch of maps where you're only there for a few hours and never go back because leveling is too quick and the game is about "muh end game" ?

What's the point of even playing a fucking mmo if you just want End game bullshit?
Go play LoL and fuck off.

>>119362415
Picks your seconds well, scoundrel. Someone is going to have to be there to proclaim you a coward and no right gentleman under the laws of the marquess' duello.

>>119362709

Once again, you're assuming if people don't agree with you, they must want to hit max level quickly.

Seriously, you have fucking problems.

I hate to break it to you, but people will reach max level, and it is not going to take more than 6-14 months (and it's going to get quicker and quicker as the game gets older).

This game is not the game for you. Go and play something else. I heard cookie clicker has no maximum level and infinite grind, you might enjoy it.