/fog/ - Fallout General

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nth for Piper is a tranny

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WHERE 2 NEXT?

REMEMBER
-Obsidian = western U.S.
-Bethesda = East Coast
-Midwest = semi-canon shit
-South = unclaimed

>>119131735
>TF2 font for "PRESS"
how is she not femscout? Who allowed this?

>>119131735

There's something... off about her face. Maybe it just wasn't what I was expecting but... I don't know.

>>119131820

Maybe she's supposed to be semi-negress.

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>>119131735
Piper is a well-developed character written by a team of TOP WRITERS and voiced by a very talented young actress. She is an essential character and it's -1000 karma to so much as flick her nose. Learn some respect. Grow up kiddo.

>>119131735
can I at least give her another hat?

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>>119131735
First for hating the news

>>119131878
it looks like a man. and is fucking annoying already

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>>119131735

I just saw the footage.

FO4 looks like its one of the first Bethesda games to have women that don't need a ton of mods to look attractive.

Also nice to see that hats dont hide hair, and also nice to see some decent hair styles for women this time around, too.

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>>119131820

>>119131820
Objects in motion never look good in a single frame

>>119131805
South probably. It's the only place left with a new, fresh atmosphere. Kind of like how L4D2's setting felt new.

Would be interesting to see some snow though

REMINDER THAT THE SJWS WON

Fallcuck 4: Bostcuck

Plot twist is you aren't a human but a robot created by le evil white science men and only with the help of your diverse minority companions will you be able to take them down from oppressing you.

Preston - Black Male
Piper - Unattractive White Female
Doge - Nigger faggot
Codsworth - Robocuck Butler

Other companions will be minorities and women too. Weakest companion will be a disgruntled white male.

It's ogre fam.

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>>119131735
Why is everyone in this game a fucking Italian?

I will only sow my seed in Nordic fields.

>>119131735
I'd fuck her

>>119131735
>tfw no ingame tgirlfriend
>tfw captcha: select all images with bananas

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>>119131983
its not funny anymore /pol/

>>119131956
>Also nice to see that hats dont hide hair
dayum
unless that's just one speshiul hat just for her that comes with the hair

>>119131983
Not really fam.
>join enclave
>even if enclave is not in game, launch all out attack in their name
>fuck up BoS
>take out all mutants
>all while wearing Enclave POWA ARMA

>>119131990
I noticed that too. You'd think there would be a lot more pale Irish people. Instead it's like New Jersey 3.0

>>119131956
The waifus will overrun this general.

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>>119131735

>>119131939
>that filename

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>>119131735
>>119131939

>>119132019
If dogmeat and codsworth are dead. Maybe just dogmeat if I'm playing male.

>>119132147
Todd would never allow for that. Any console user who tries to install an Enclave mod will be banned until they complete a sensitivity training course and any PC modder using one will remain a virgin. There is just no winning.

Do you think current companions will interject during dialogue with other NPCs now that it's in real time? Could be fun.

>>119132320
MOAR

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>>119131939

>>119131956
>footage

what

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>>119131735
Cant wait to mod this game into porn.

>>119132523
There's a clip in the Fallout Shelter update video that shows Piper.

Pay the fuck attention.

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>>119132487

>>119132608
>implying I pay attention to mobile shit
I just thought it was a screenshot of her, never knew there was footage

>>119132608
Who is "the fuck" and what currency do they accept in lieu of attention?

Does anyone else think Piper's VA kinda sucks?

I wonder how many characters she's gonna voice

>>119132776

She's not bad, but she sounds like a cartoon network character.

>>119131735
>inb4 "Piper" is the not-so-subtle hint

Y'know Uncle Pete said only one companion at a time, so no humanoid+other combo like FONV. I like to use one companion for the whole playthru, but I don't want to have to do 12 playthrus to try them all. Fuck.

>>119132776
No, I wouldn't mind her talking newsy to me while I boner her from behind TBH.

>>119132734
Pay the fuck attention to the general.

Literally the only reason the keep this shit open is to catch shit like this.

>>119132698
keep going bby

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>Make your create-a-character black
>Dialogue wheel has extra option of smacking lips, saying "hol up", or "shiiiiiieeet."
>Proficient with melee weapons
>Make your create-a-character hispanic
>Speaks in broken english/spanglish, adresses everyone as "boss"
>Proficient at base-building
>Make your create-a-character Asian
>Swap all Ls with Rs, "I don't wan no trabu" option
>Proficient in Science
>Make your create-a-character white
>Play the game as intended

>>119132892
I just clicked on this when I saw the piper screenshot on /v/. I don't constantly keep this thing open.

>>119132946
>Make your create-a-character hispanic
>Speaks in broken english/spanglish, adresses everyone as "boss"
>Proficient at base-building

Also lockpicking.

>>119132368
I think we'll have more freedom than that, it's just that our big bad moralities will be rewarded with ominous music and negative imagery at the main-quest-ending cutscene

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>>119132756
>>119132892
>Fallout General

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>>119131983
sounds like my kind of game

so does anybody have a pre-war job in mind for their character? I was thinking an architect because of the whole base building mechanic later in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxjPfuG9XwI

50 minutes in. Is that destruction going to be on every building, or was it scripted for just that area?

>>119132776
Too early to tell.

I can't see her voicing many NPCs, either. She's a companion after all.

>>119133306
Robotics engineer

>>119133748

Car salesman

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>>119131735
I think she looks kinda like a hot freedom fighter

>>119131735
>article you might be able to help her with

can't wait for wasteland survival guide 2

>>119133306
Cardio bunny housewife who is on maternity leave from her job as a chemist

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Fallout 4 will be the fable 3 of fallout.

>voiced protag
>focus on a shitty dog sidekick
>forces you into a story/character background where you can't become your own person
>incredible hype

Are you excited?

>>119131956

Honestly, i dont need the women to look good even.

After all i can find pictures of good looking women all over the internet.

I just need them to look human.

I remember struggling in New Vegas trying to make a female character that looked OK and after an hour i thought i had managed to do so. Unfortunately i had fixated on one angle and when i started the game i realized that she had ended up with the underbite of the ages.

Birdbath levels of underbite. Her jaw jutted forward like the prow of a Dreadnaught.

But after all that time spent, i could not be arsed to remake her so i just ended up using concealing helmets and masks.

I always wondered how her lovers reacted to the unmasking. On one hand she was severely facially challenged. On the other hand she had murdered hundreds of people, often for far more spurious reasons than having been called ugly.

In the end their survival instincts was too robust. Well, except for Benny obviously.

>>119134108
Yes because I love African Americans

>>119134108
I hope not because Fable 3 was shit

>>119133306
quality assurance manager for the nuka cola corporation

Do people actually hate Wasteland Survival Guide quest or we just throwing memes around

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>>119133306
JAG, US Navy. Did stints at the Pentagon (where he met Nora) and DARPA, consulting on special projects.

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>>119134284
Exactly

>>119134284
>the point

>>119134108
>Are you excited?
not really
and the fact that they're not showing any fucking gameplay, but some animated shorts or live action isn't exactly helping either

>>119134356
no, it's actually a nice idea for a quest, first three tasks for low levels, next stage for slightly higher and so on. I just don't want it done AGAIN

>>119134108
>Focus on dog sidekick

That's like saying New Vegas had a focus on ED-E

it's just who they are showing for promotional material

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>>119133306
Deeply embedded commie infiltrator posing as god-fearing American citizen.

>>119134817

Well,with Lonesome Road one could argue that ED-E had at least more of a focus. After all it was the only main storyline companion that could join you on a sidequest.

>>119135167
That ED-E was nothing like the one you got in the main game.

He had a personality and a backstory.

>>119134108
Yes very

>>119131735
Seeing this makes me happy because I enjoy the fact that all those shitlords posting about how cute Piper would be as "waifu of the year" and all this other shit are now sucking eggs.

I'll buy they're fucking game for this alone.

>>119133550

>I can't see her voicing many NPCs, either. She's a companion after all.

Considering it's Bethesda, she probably will.

All the companions in 3 had VAs that were shared with numerous other VAs and Skyrim had companions with the same voice and dialogue.

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>>119136058
>Seeing this makes me happy because I enjoy the fact that all those shitlords posting about how cute Piper would be as "waifu of the year" and all this other shit are now sucking eggs.

what do you mean by this?

i'll just mod piper to be kawaii before i even play

pic related is my inspiration

>>119135880
That's the same IA, just loaded into a different eyebot, ya dingus

>>119136352
when I first saw this movie when I was about 12 I had an obsession over Ally Sheedy for weeks, I went out and watched near enough everything she was in, read all the interviews I could find and everything, I had such a boner for that character. Seeing her now makes me feel a little empty.

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>>119136628
i know that feel, bro. allison reynolds is love.

>>119136331
Companions in Fallout 3 and Skyrim also had literally no work put into them.

But THIS TIME it'll be different, right?

>>119136058
What?

Ive seen tons of people already saying Piper is a great wiafu from just this alone.

>>119136561
Yeah but in the main game he has no personality. It might as well be any eyebot you add to the game via some robot companion mod. Behaves totally differently in Lonesome Road.

I'm saying ED-E had zero personality and purpose to his existence other than to fill some robot companion quota like with RL-3 in Fallout 3 right up until Lonesome Road when they decided to give him some sense of purpose for existing.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tX3AnKiYb0
Post YFW hearing this song for the first time watching that video

>>119136785
well I mean, she's offering what looks to be a fleshed out side quest and not just a miscellaneous task so she's beaten FO3 there. there's meant to be around a dozen companions so that's knocked Skyrim's biggest fault out the way. I think they'll be more the way of New Vegas's this time, a few fully fleshed out characters.

>Be chinese guard on patrol during closing days of war
>Hear B52 fly above
>See 30 power-armored troopers drop out the bomb bay with a jetpack and minigun
>意大利麵條.jpg

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>>119136945
>he hasn't heard that song before

really?

>>119137045
Lets hope they avoid NV's problem of having their "fleshed out" characters be nothing more then walking soapboxes for whatever retarded issue Avellone wanted to push at the moment, and 2/3rds of whose dialogue is nothing but the other 1/3rd repeated twice again.

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>>119137202
I failed you Anon

>>119137283
What issue was Raul pushing

>>119136785

Eh, I am prepared to be... Well, not disappointed exactly, because i both fear and expect poor shallow quests and poor shallow NPC`s.

So you could say i am resigned to the expectation that Fallout 4 will be no better than Fallout 3 in those regards.

What annoys me the most with Bethesda is that they could do a much better job if they just tried, but they are so goddamn lazy and expect people to do the job of actually filling the sandbox for them.

And yet i will most likely buy the game. Perhaps even a preorder.

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>>119137283
>fictional characters aren't allowed opinions

>m14 in the trailer
If its not in the game Bethesda is confirmed for shiiiit

>>119137283
I don't know what you're talking about but I'd choose Arcade's morals, ideals and humour over "i was an asshole raider now i'm an asshole who needs a grand to be an asshole bodyguard"

>>119137045
>there's meant to be around a dozen companions so that's knocked Skyrim's biggest fault out the way.

Mind you Skyrim DID have semi-unique companions with some quests behind them (Serana, Erandur and the Skaal chick come to mind) but most of them were just the exact same base with different names and appearances.

I hope 4's companions don't end up like that. Worst case scenario it's a mixture of Skyrim's companions AND romance/marriage system.

>>119133336
Likely limited to settlement areas only.

>>119137496
I am talking about shit like arcade, Boone, and Veronica, and 2/3rds of their dialogue being nothing more then repeated versions of the same shit they already said previously.

Seriously, you could cut out like half of what they say, and lose absolutist zero information, because they just say the same shit over and over.

It wasn't as bad as the red baron from Witcher 3, where literally 4/5th of his dialogue was just the same shit repeated for the nth time, but fuck it came close.

>>119137502
My favorite companion was the dude at the bar in Raven Rock. He was fun.

>>119131735
She looks like the wife from the demo only tanned in this light.

Would waifu.

>>119137671

I just hope we can make clean buildings and not just huts that looks like they are made of corrugated aluminium with 200 years worth of shit smeared over them.

>>119137897
I agree.
At least the wooden structures shown in the E3 gameplay looked nice.

>>119137871

Funny how one of the most interesting companions in Skyrim is unceremoniously shoved into the corner of an unimportant inn while we're forced to put up with factory produced waifus like Serana while questing.

>>119137478
I don't see why they wouldn't. The service rifle was in New Vegas and the AK was in 3, so 60's/70's weapons are reasonably lore friendly.

>>119138575
I'm not going to argue that Serena is great, but she's not too bad.

Though navigating her stupid vampirism cure quest is a pain in the dick.

>>119137871
mine was Inigo

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>>119131735

GIVE ME YOUR HAT

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Why in the hell are so many of you peeps afraid to go into this game blind?

>>119138798
because I don't want to waste 40 quid

>>119138665
Not to mention NV already has RAILZZZ on the Marksman Carbine and All-American.

I just hope Bethesda dont end up inflicting Oblivion syndrome on Fallout 4.

Where they basically remake the last game only with 20% less features.

Such as the missing spell creator or lack of spears in Skyrim.

>>119138717
>Though navigating her stupid vampirism cure quest is a pain in the dick.

It's like bethesda tried to do what Obsidian did with Dean Domino only they fucked it up by making the variable a random question you can ask at any point instead of a branching dialogue choice.

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>tfw you wont have enough money yet for pc when fallout comes out
>tfw you have to spend $15 for 8 hours at internet gaming cafe to play it

>>119138665
divergence began in the 40's, but from the music selections in fo3 and Nv, as well as comments made by NPCs in those games, the world was basically the same until at least the mid 60's, since the hippie culture is known to have occurred.

Fallout 2 mentioned Regan at one point, so the Fallout world was still reasonably close to ours even in the 80's.

>>119138956
what haven't they shown yet that was a good feature in Fallout 3/NV?

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>I thought that Piper looked kinda like Eva Green and tried to Photoshop a resemblance

I don't know why I tried

>>119138798

Because i have played Bethesda games before and they have a nasty tendency to halfass everything they think they can get away with.

>>119139051

The companion wheel for one.

Also traits.

>>119138956
Spears weren't in Oblivion either m8.

>>119138938
Oh yeah. that.

God damnit, Anon. Why can't you just let me forget?

>>119139084
what the fuck nigga

>>119139084

NIGGA WHAT THE FUCK

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>>119139084

>>119139084
you are a special type of demented

>>119139150
>he didn't play Morrowind

>>119139125
Not him but, the companion wheel was fucking ass, and only made trying to talk to companions difficult.

Skyrim made shit so much easier by just allowing you to hold the "interact" button while looking at a companion, which allowed you to give them commands to open doors, move back, lockpick stuff, take items, etc. etc., without the need for the clunky ass wheel.

>>119138938
gross

>>119139010

I believe the first major point of divergence is that they did not invent transistors when we did but got super vacuum tubes instead.

>>119139084
I don't fucking know why you did either

>>119139362

I don't think I ever used the companion interaction system once in Skyrim.

>>119139418
That would be 1947

>>119131805
Miami would be cool as fuck.
>Commies from Cuba
>mutated alligators, bloodbugs, panthers, etc
>could have amazing night life similar to New Vegas
>outside city is slums where poor people and muties roam
>Everglades has crazy rednecks and injuns
>airboat rides
>DLC in St Augustine or Space Coast (Kennedy Space Center, yo) as well as maybe Key West which is filled with commie ghouls and US naval ghouls still fighting one another

>>119139490
I used it all the time since companions kept blocking doors.

>>119137414
Illegal immigrant flees tragedy and is exploited by opportunists into being an unpaid toaster repairman.

Forced to integrate into society he has abandoned his culture, but has done so poorly. When coaxed into embracing his heritage, he adopts a ridiculous cliched persona from shitty second world movies.

>>119139051

They seem to have removed Damage Threshold again. Which probably will lead to being able to take down Super mutants with a 22. caliber again.

>>119139604

You'd think it'd be easier to just give the player the ability to push NPCs out of their way.

>>119139685
DT and DR really didn't work well together though

>>119139685
better then going from vault security armor to enclave PA and getting absolutely zero more damage negation from basically all weapons in the process, as was the case in NV.

There is a reason why Sawyer gave all medium and heavy armors DR in his mod.... DT doesn't work by itself, DR does.

Even New Vegas's own lead designer admitted it.

>>119139010
That's what annoys me about the divergence thing. It doesn't make sense that culture would just stop progressing in the 50's. It's only good because it has charm.

Theres so many weird things happening in fallout shelter

>>119139885

I always interpreted as America being the only country that kinda held onto those old values as a means to keeping the population placated and docile while other countries diverged in different ways.

>>119139885
It DID progress beyond the 50's.

Which is why post-war people are unusually tolerant of blacks, Hispanics, and even Asians, when the 50's was rife with racism.

We also know the hippie counter culture of the 60's happened, they just went BACK to am ore 50's lifestyle sometime later.

>>119139885

It did not stay in the 50`s.

The world continued to change until sometime past 2000.

They simply got a 50`s relapse at a later stage.

>Make a character with 1 endurance and 1 strength
>Forced power armor cavalry backstory
>These stats make no sense now

>>119140116
PA it self sustaining, your strength doesn't mean shit in regards to using it.

that's kinda the point of PA.

>>119139885
The aesthetic stayed similar to the 50's, but many things in the Fallout universe DID evolve from there.

>>119139825

What i do like is that the Power armor actually looks like a Power armor now instead of looking like metallic clothes.

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>>119139084
wew anon

>>119139885
I figure it was just the latest fad. The 240's, people probably wore Tron suits with ornamental codpieces and thought disco was the shit. The 1950's memes were probably just conservative backlash by a generation that grew up cringing at the shit taste of their elders.

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>tfw possibly no Enclave
>tfw I will never Make America Great Again (TM)

>>119131983
why would you call the dog a nigger

>>119140116

>Make a character with 1 endurance and 1 strength
>Character is now a crippled veteran who lost his legs in the war.

>>119140113
and the technology continued to have that 50's look and feel.

along with the United States being a wasteful country.

I'm sure the culture and stuff got about to the 70's or mid 80's and had a 50's Americana relapse.

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>>119140281
Speaking of power armor... why did T-51b get so angry?

>>119140116
Power armor supports itself.

Hence the power bit.

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>>119140703

>>119140281
Go play gundam you weab.

>>119140703
My question is what is going on with the torso? The legs, arms, and helmet all look metallic while the torso looks ceramic.

>>119140703

"I swear to god if he uses that steel wool on my ass once more..BAM! System failure while fighting a Supermutant Overlord."

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>>119140842
I get that it already had this angry look, but in F4 it looks even angrier.

>>119131735
She's kinda cute.
Hope she'll be a manipulative bitch that'll do anything for a scoop, instead of just Moira 2.0.

>>119140961

I believe you find bits of powerarmor now. So you could have different legs arms and torsos.

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>>119140964
>Power Armor will never have an automated voice/A.I. that secretly/openly loathes whomever is using it
>it will never criticize/praise your upgrade choices

>>119140441

>tfw the big tweest of the game will be that the Institute is just a front for the Enclave

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>>119140961

eh

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>>119140703
I swear t-51b is going to be my magnum opus.

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Holy shit a Live trailer AND a look at Piper? Today's been a good day.

>>119140975
its just the angle you're looking at it.

>>119141529
Tomorrow they reveal the force feedback codpiece edition

>>119141392

I always liked the Enclave Power Armor.

It looks mean, perhaps even evil without getting ridiculous with spikes and shit.

>>119140975
in Fallout 5 the visor is probably just gonna be a giant V.

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>>119141613
Nah.
Look at F3/FNV, where the helmet looks relatively calm in comparison.

>>119141764
hrmm.. I see your point.


Likley they changed it to look meaner because it looks better that way.

>>119141119
The problem with that is that they're the same model, T-51b, meaning that they should look roughly the same. I could understand it though if like the pieces you find have to be cleaned/maintained and start to look more worn the longer they go

.>>119141304
It still looks like metal, just painted, and my thing was more about how the torso's color scheme didn't fit with the rest of the armor, even though they're from the same line.

>>119134108
>Focus on shitty dog sidekick

Except the dog didn't have a ton of focus at all in fable 3, he wasn't even story relevant like the one in Fable 2 that literally dies saving you at the end.

>forces you into a story/character background where you can't become your own person

How the fuck does a voice change what they've been doing at all? All that was different in fallout 3 was that it was all text. And as far as these trailers have gone besides it being limited to 4 options at a time it's still has the same quality of dialogue if you can even use the word "Quality" about it.

>>119141259
I can already imagine the waifu fag mods.

>>119142015
Well. the characters do have generalized backgrounds.

but that really isn't a problem as long as its nuanced so they are shades of the same character.

like Geralt from The Witcher.
(Makes more sense than a guy having growing up in vault 101 then leaving the vault and becoming the next Jesus, a typical bastard, or a psychopathic evil murderer that fucks the world up because of the lels.

>>119138798
I actually don't mind not knowing shit this time around. Fallout 3 was a blind rental on gamefly after seeing like 2 videos about it online and I enjoyed alot of my time with it. Was on 4chan more frequently when New Vegas came out so I saw a whole lot of that here before I went into it myself.

As long as it's not as crazy as skyrim was at launch I don't mind the radio silence.

>>119134108
Wow. This is a post I completely agree on.

Bethesda has fucked up the ART of the sequel.

Dragon Age 2-3, ME 2-3, Star Craft 2, Fable 3, Bioshock Infinite, and now Fallout 4.

Lets just hope and pray that Obsidian doesn't fuck it up any more. Yes yes I know all the good devs are gone, but here's hoping that they can LEARN from what made their games shine. And considering what they did with NV, I think they can polish a turd well enough to actually make a difference.

>>119134817
No. This dumb developers dog has been the main focus of the godamn game since day one. Not sure yet? Just check out the games announcement at E3. More whoops and hollars for the godamn dog than there were for most everything else...

>>119142792
>More whoops and hollars for the godamn dog than there were for most everything else...
Shut the fuck up. Punk ass motherfucker getting mad at a poorly textured video game dog.

>>119134108
>Being excited for anything other than waifuing
Fucking plebs

>>119142792
>Yes yes I know all the good devs are gone,
The only dev that left was Avellone, and he only made the meme shit in Fo2, and OWB in NV.

Obsidian still had Tim "mother fucking" Cain, and Joshua "Salty" Sawyer, and Feargus "no one knows who the fuck I am" Urquhart

So now that Bethesda has shown the Piper segment from the Quakecon demo, do you think we may get to see the whole thing?

>>119143361
they probably didn't show all the Piper segment. But yeah I assume it'll be out before the end of the month

>>119142792

All that shit you just wrote for a video game, you are seriously autistic. Fucked up the art? What the fuck are you talking about you dumb bitch. Lets just being back the green tint shall we? Fucking hell.

>>119142015
>forces you into a story/character background where you can't become your own person.

This is EXACTLY true. And if you say other wise, you are ignoring the basic fucking facts of storytelling. i.e. an RPG.
Which btw is EXACTLY what Todd promised during the interviews for this game. "Play the game how YOU want to play it"

Except you can't.

Lets use Oblivion and Skyrim as an example.
Want to make a rouge character that responds intelligently to questions asked, sure go ahead. Want to make a strong nord badass that has an anger problem? No problem. How about a whiteknight orc? Yea.

The problem with a VP is that HIS voice is Brian T Delaney's. YOUR voice in the game is actor Brian T Delaney. A fucking hollywood ACTOR that is basically reading your story to you.

Seriously though from a financial aspect, Beth could have scrapped both VP's in liu of a dialogue list and used the money they saved to reduce the insane amount of glitches and bugs in a beth game with some QA, OR added additional content without impacting their day 1 dlc bullshit.

Fuck bethesda.

>>119143932

HOW DO YOU KNOW? YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME YET.

>>119143932
>OR added additional content without impacting their day 1 dlc bullshit.
what? fo4 doesn't have day 1 DLC

>>119143932
>rouge character
I never wanted to play a redguard.

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/fog/, the most important poll ever created is here.

Be sure to cast your vote!

http://strawpoll.me/5743658

>>119134108
Yeah. I am.
>Voiced protag
There is nothing is inherently wrong with a voiced protagonist.

>Focus on the dog
this is a stupid point. The dog is just Marketing, and homage to it's inspirations and older titles.

>Forces you into a story/character background where you can't become your own person

not entirely false, and not entirely true either.
you have a background, but its not like they fill in every detail. It's really up to you how your character takes the Holocaust.

Will they become cynical and hateful towards the world because all the good they once knew is gone?

Will they accept the world as it is, and relish being released from the shackles of society?

Will they accept it and try to move on? fighting for the rebuilding of civilization?

will they try to do good by the world, try to help others...because they can't help but feel a little guilty and responsible for the Great War?

>>119144152
get rekt blues

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>>119143932

>day 1 dlc

What the fuck are you going on about.

>>119144152
>>119144248
edgy

>>119143932

cont.

It is turning fallout into a console game instead of a PC game, I have a problem with that. I do not play console games. I do not want my PC games infected with console style, you probably can't comprehend that since it is probably all you have ever known. It shows a trend for the game, a warning sign that there is probably even more that we are not being shown of the game being casualized and turn into a fucking game that old fans of the series will find horrifying and people who never even fucking heard of fallout will find appealing.
WHAT I LOVE IS BEING FUCKED UP THE ASS AND YOU JUST SIT THERE AND SMILE LIKE AN ASSHOLE BEING SHOWN A CARD TRICK!

So yea, day 1 pirate. I have no hope for this game. it will be worse than TESO and what I once cherished and held dear for decades is about to be raped to death by a giant pack of rabid niggers while I walk away helpless.

Fuck you dude, fuck you. You did this to me. Nobody else gives a fuck here because they all abandoned this shit and gave up. I keep coming back like a fool hoping for some image, some sign that some of the old fallout is in this game in some form other than as a thin veneer to cover up the xbox/ps5 bullshit shovelshit for the masses that it is.

My religion has been taken over by fucking manchildren like you and there is nothing I can do about it but stop giving to the church.

>>119144482

I really hope you grab some rope and hang yourself because your annoying babbling is pissing me off now.

>>119142965
>>119143829
Guess I just found the pre orders drone : )

>>119144035
There's enough evidence out already turdlet.

>>119144052
>>119144282

Not day 1 DLC, wrong choice of words,
They are releasing a game with the intent to add 4/5 DLC packs in the future.

>>119144482
not me. Nice try, queer.

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>>119144482
Ah yeah I remember this copypasta. Good times.

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>>119144482
Tl;dr

MUH PC MASER RACE! WAHHHH!!!! I DON LEIK POPULAR TINGS!!!!! THE WORLD SUKS!!! WAHHHH!

>>119144645
>They are releasing a game with the intent to add 4/5 DLC packs in the future.

Uhh no, they outright said when making skyrim they weren't going back to the Fo3 style of making DLC because it was a hectic mess.

they will have 2 big DLC, and maybe one feature based DLC.

>>119144645
>not me. Nice try, queer.
>>119144659

:^)

>>119144645

There's zero evidence actually, it's all circumstantial from a trailer so kill yourself, faggot.

>People say that I would be playing FO4 wrong for skipping cutscenes/other unnecessary shit

Excuse me? Who the fuck are any of you faggots to call me out on something like that?
Just because you're a lorefag(in an RPG game no less) doesn't mean you're better.
This game will be a timesink and I refuse to waste time watching cutscenes for a story I will not give a fuck about.
And for all you people saying that "cutscenes and lore are part of the fun" can fuck off.
Objectively speaking, in my opinion, just because you're saying you're having fun doesn't mean you actually are.
It's completely possible to think you're having fun when you're actually not so suck my dick and lick my balls

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>>119144482
Look man, I'm not reading your retarded wall of text, but Fallout has been a console game since 3. TES went console from Oblivion. You lost this shit a god damned decade ago. Let it go, for fuck's sake.

>>119134108
You never played fallout 3 for the story, but for the exploration and environments.

>>119144645

Fallout 3 had a bunch of DLC though ... You seriously are annoying.

>>119144747
Well here's hoping then.
My point still stands. They could have removed the VP and saved millions to use on other aspects of the game.

>>119145007
LOL this must be your first release eh?
"It wont be like anything in the trailers/E3 presentations....I hope" lol grow up kid.

>>119145152
This is EXACTLY my point you turd. lol godamn.

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>>119134356
I hope not. Moira is my waifu.

>>119131735
Neat.

>>119145152
Only Point Lookout and The Pitt were worth playing. The other three were completely linear shooting galleries.

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>>119144725
>strawmanning this hard

Why are all you drones so obviously underage? You can't even refute the point, so you just fling insults and try to belittle the person making said points. Are you really so new to video games, especially bethesda games, that you get hyped over this shit and will defend it to the death against the series own fans?

I mean I don't blame you, it's not like it's your fault you were still in diapers when fallout 3 came out. This turd is probably the best thing you've ever seen.

>>119145313

But fallout 3 was good ...

Oh I get it now, you're one of those turds who thinks fallout should return to the isometric-boring age of gaming.

I get the retard-rage now, I'm a little less mad.

>>119145424
Ohh boy hes back, and hes up early today it seems.

>>119145313
>Millions

uhhh....dude. Voice Actors don't cost that much.

Voice Actors get paid modestly.

in fact, Brain was a relative no-name before he was hired by Bethesda.

>>119145424

>>119145042

>>119144240
>you have a background, but its not like they fill in every detail. It's really up to you how your character takes the Holocaust.
You still have the background of your character decided, making them into the most special snowflake ever. Courier is IMO a good example of an RPG character. He is a guy who got shot and did some delivery work, we know literally nothing else about him. Is he from the NCR or Caesar's Legion? Does he have any military experience? Does he have any family? Is he a homo? Three of these are already filled for the character you play in 4.

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>>119144482

This copy-pasta again?

>>119145594
Did you play Lonesome Road?

Ulysses outright states the Courier is from the west(NCR)

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>>119145424
I think you're getting too old for video games my friend...

Time to hang up the keyboard and mouse and move on with your life.

Maybe find a nice girl.
Buy a house.
Get a dog, and eventually some children.
Slave 9-5 to get them through college.
Die knowing you contributed to society.

>>119145543
>Voice Actors don't cost that much.
>Anecdote is a no name
Lmao

>>119145594
All we know about our protag is that he is

>American Citizen
>Was in the Military
>Had a Wife/Husband and child

The Courier had a lot more background information that "he was shots in da 'ead"

>>119145469
Nope, not at all. I actually think FO4 should be an undated FO3. Are you paying attention much?

lol godamn.

>>119145543
Millions was a long shot, someone probably has the exact figures, but it was million. Not millions. <2

>>119145734
lol I got some bad news for you in about 4 years then buddy. What do you think is gonna happen, you'll always be 22?

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>>119145134
>don't play this rpg game for the story, play it for the empty world filled with invisible walls, copy pasted environments and metro tunnels

Does anyone else think piper looks cute?

>>119145873

Piper is extremely cute. I'll have to make my wife cuter than her

>>119145594
Its really not that different from Fallout 1 or 2 where you were a vault dweller who had spent his whole life in the vault, or you were a tribal who had friends, family and an aunt who hated you.

>>119145853
Not a million.

telling you now. Voice actors aren't expensive.

>>119145873
When not talking, yes. When talking, the animation/mocap is horrendous. Looks like her lips are trying to pull themselves off her face.

Gary Guards Men

>>119145752
Brian Delaney was a no-name

his biggest role was Roland from Halo...and he's even stated that the only reason he got that part was because he had a friend vouch for him.

seriously, look at his IMDb.

>>119145872
Not him but

Fallout 3 and New Vegas actually do an admittedly good job with environmental story telling that I've always loved. In many of the environments, you can only assumed what happened, the small details that took place, the events that transpired. You're only seeing the result and you have to fill in the blanks.

>>119145872
You're exaggerating a billion percent and you know it. Enviroments in fallout 3 were fine, moreso than new vegas.

Even if it was bad, would you still say people played fallout 3 for the story?

>>119146006
"aschutaully"
Okay Fedora, my point still stand you kissless virgin.

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What is this weird mentality that Bethesda's stories are weak, therefore spoilers are perfectly fine.

Like, that's not how spoilers work. They're terrible no matter what the story is like because they remove the experience of being told a story.

Just, I know most of it is shitposting, but do people really think this way?

>>119142792
>implying obsidian will ever be allowed to touch fallout again

>>119145502
Who?

>>119145554
People letting it go was what got us into this mess. People who didn't really give a shit and just let it happen because some higher ups who just want to make money told them to. Now we're supposed to just embrace these /v/ kiddies and their shitty memes or undeserved overhype because it's convenient. Fuck off.

>>119145734
Are you even old enough to play an 18 rated game?

>>119146218

>One person calls you out on your shitpost
>"PFFFT, WHATEVER FEDORA, ACKACKACKACK."

>>119146218
they don't.

look up the average salary, I'm not stopping you from using the power of the internet to check my info.

>>119146374
I'm almost 21 actually, pretty sad that I'm still here shitposting with the rest of you faggots. I'm probably one of the older ones now...

>>119146230
>They're terrible no matter what the story is like because they remove the experience of being told a story.

You can still enjoy a story even if a small part of it was spoiled. Sometimes you might enjoy it more, because you can analyze on what's causing the spoiled part to happen, and how story leads to it.

>>119146365
They will.

>>119145790
this.

I had a whole story for my courier.

then Obsidian just fucking shat all over it with Lonesome Road.

>>119146365
Why the fuck not?

>>119146387
>calls me out
>splitting hairs
My point still stands turdlet.

>>119146512
again, I don't really care how much, you oblivious queer. It's the fact they could have used that resource elsewhere.

>>119146565

But you're meant to do that AFTER the story ends. Like half the fun is realizing "OoooOOOOOH! That's why he said that!"

Being aware of a plot point early completely negates the joy of foreshadowing and dramatic irony.

>>119146230

That's the thing - Bethesda's main plots are so bad that they could be outright removed and the game would still sell like hotcakes and only a relative minority would complain. It's going to be shit, most people who played Skyrim, Oblivion, and F3 realize this, they just want another open world game and some sidequests/areas that put the main quest to shame.

The only reason I even bother with the main quest of 3 is to trigger the Enclave spawning flags.

>>119146659
>queer
not even him, but fucking what year do you think this is?

>>119145790
surely only the male was in the military? and even then doing a speech at the veteran's hall doesn't mean he was in the military

>>119146716
But that's where what you said comes in. Bethesda is not competant enough to make a game where you can get any enjoyment out of analyzing the plot, or have any sort of foreshadowing. Especially in a game where "you can do anything, nothing matters", it becomes especially hard to tell a good story.

>>119146204
Still doesn't change the fact that most of the interior cells were just lazy reused versions of each other and you couldn't walk 5 feet without running into an exact carbon copy of some building, tree, or car you just saw. As much as I loved NV, this just made me ill because it was not only overly reused assets but assets we'd already seen overused in fallout 3. It actually managed to make up for it with an interesting world, characters and story though.

>>119146208
I think the story in fallout 3 was incredibly mediocre. At best the good parts of fallout 3 were "decent", but it really wasn't a very good game all around unless you willingly covered your eyes and ignored all the bullshit for those tiny nuggets of goodness. But you shouldn't need to become willingly ignorant to enjoy anything good.

>>119146659
how about you play the game and stop being a frothing at the mouth autistic cunt?

if you don't like the game you can use that handy little refund policy steam has or pirate it.

then if it's bad, you can come here and be an autistic cunt all you want and no one will complain.

>>119146964
>Bethesda is not competant enough to make a game where you can get any enjoyment out of analyzing the plot, or have any sort of foreshadowing
Tell that to all the people who spend fucking years analyzing all the crazy ass CHIM/Godhead/meta reference shit in all the TES games each time ones comes out.

>>119146790
>"They just want another open world game and some sidequests/areas.."

This is exactly what I want and what I found so enticing with those games. Seriously, Bethesda needs to re-analyze what made their games good...

Glad someone else out there isn't a complete drone about this game.

>>119147053
That was all lore though. Lore is not the same as being able to make a good plot in the game.

>>119146659
>again, I don't really care how much, you oblivious queer. It's the fact they could have used that resource elsewhere.


then let's just make the game an isometric and have no voice actors whasoever! that'll free up so much! you'll never stop playing the game because of all the content!

>>119146790
Thank god fallout 4 main plot will be better than all the previous Bethesda games.

>>119147053
That was literally all Kirkbride though, and he doesn't even work for bethesda anymore, he just consults them on how not to be retarded when it comes to his lore.

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>>119146374
There is literally nothing you can do about it. It's done, it's over, it's completely saturated and inundated with casual. I'm 30, we lost the fight a decade ago. I was there. We fought, we lost, and now we're relegated to a few kick started games a year.

You're not 'fighting the good fight', Anon. You're yelling that Soylent Gaming is made of casuals to a bunch of people who know and realize there's no point in shouting about it anymore.

>>119147197
All of that lore has been directly tied to the plots of Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.

Skyrim more so, given that you have a conversation with Paarthunax where you and he talk about the possible ramifications of what stopping alduin means for the Kalpa cycle and how all the prophecy stuff is bullshit.

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Have you guys pre-ordered yet?

>>119147292
Why doesn't he work for Bethesda anymore?

>>119147417
I'm only pre-ordering when you start the preload.

no point otherwise.

>>119147292
Totally false, even Kirkbride has said most of that shit was done by Kurt Kuhlmann, who still works at Bethesda as co lead designer.

>>119147483
>1 vote for 30+

we found the shitposter!

>>119147209
Great job polarizing my argument. Your age is showing.

FO4 needs to be FO3/NV with updated graphics. remove VP, remove dialogue wheel.

..but you can just keep getting paid, shill.

>>119147308
seriously? If you believe you don't have a voice anymore go ahead.
We fixed Dragon age 3. we fixed ME3. We fixed bioshock, scared to make anymore fucking games after shitfinite....Destiny was a massive letdown and we let them know.

Go back to feeling that way you queer

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>>119147417
YES MASTER

I'm a good boy with no self control who eats up anything you feed him. Shit on a plate, I'll eat it it!

Please, just promise me more shit and I'll pay you before you can even get it into my mouth!

>>119147649
Not him but

>DA3
>ME3
>Bioshock
>Fixed
what?

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>>119147483

>1 vote for under 18

>>119147640
>1 vote for Under 18
>we found the shitposter
FTFY

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>>119131735

Wouldn't be surprised mainstream game companies love to put this political bullshit into their games to get good PR and coverage.

Like hey, cool you have a tranny. Cool you have a homosexual. Cool you had someone use magic to perform a sex change operation.

But for the love of god, if its not relevant to the story/game why the fuck bring it up. Why just randomly concentrate on it out of the blue.

Worse is the communities praise these developers for doing it. Not like they're doing it because they support the cause. They're just using it as a god dam tool for capitalism and the idiots eat it up.

TV shows started pulling this shit too. Watching the new ep of flash the other day and some random super good police woman wants to join one of the main characters (whose a detective) "task force" to fight superpowered people. He random says, "you wouldn't be fit for it anyways", then she responds with "why, because I'm a woman?".

Why the fuck would he say that with a sexist undertone. He has NEVER been hinted at being sexist or anti woman. The writers just through that shit in there for brownie points.

Been seeing this shit too often lately.

/Rant.

>>119147649
I agree with you on the dialogue wheel. But i don't mind the VP

>>119145694
>>119145790
Which in addition to making him a major special snowflake (seriously why couldn't he be a regular guy from a normal vault or a normal guy wandering the wastes?) already throws out a few things, he clearly isn't gay, he does have military experience, he does have a family. Honestly I wouldn't have minded half as much if his background was more tame instead of this stupid he knew what the world was like before shit. If you want that just make them a ghoul.

>>119145694
Lonesome Road was a shitty DLC
"Hey this companion you can use? Yeah he has a whole bunch of background now, feel bad for him, they hurt a non-sentient robot"
"Hey your character, he has a whole bunch of retarded background now"
"Hey look at this super cool dude, listen to him rant about how terrible everyone is and how you should go independent Vegas"
"You caused the nukes you could have stopped playing any time you wanted"
"Le deep lesson about one man being able to change the world"
Fuck Ulysses, I honestly wish you could have your character let him nuke whatever, he can rant all he wants, my Courier was a drifter anyway, nuke the NCR, nuke Legion, nuke the Mojave, he will simply wander off to a new place.

>>119147738
It could be a really immature 30+ year old.

or it could be a >18 year old.

>>119147775
Except Piper is none of those things, nor have they even suggested it.

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>>119147483
I think the fact that this dank hole of shitposting is created by multiple people who are legally considered adults is a lot more depressing than it is relieving.

>>119147260

I'll believe that when they release a game that doesn't need 5 community bug fix mods.
You're an android, stop the Institute. There's the plot. Anyone with more than two brain cells can see it because it's the only way to reconcile the whole RPG thing and blank slate player characters that Bethesda ALWAYS does.

If they don't the game'll be worse than I thought because you'll not only have a forced VA, but an unavoidable backstory, and romance will be adultery(not that it would be any good in the first place, but still)

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>>119147837
Not anyone you were quoting but, dude, you post is so full of retarded shit, and autistic levels of asspain over entirely trivial shit.

>>119147858

I hope that's true. I'm fine with these things, just don't push it to my face if its not relevant to anything.

>>119147649
Fallout 3/NV had innumerable flaws that don't need to be repeated.


We haven't even played the game and you're shitting on it because it does some different things.

that is a narrow-closed minded attitude. wait until it's out. then complain.

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>>119147640
I am not a shitposter

>>119147997
>You're an android, stop the Institute.
No.

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>>119147649
DAI, ME3, BioShock Infinite, and Destiny were all casual as fuck. What the fuck are you even saying? Even with changed endings they are still violently casual. Did you forget we were arguing about games being casualized now, or did you actually think you could try to change the subject to try to make yourself look justified in whining about dumb bullshit in a /vg/ thread that will be completely forgotten about in a half a day?

Fucking pathetic, Anon.

>>119148117
could have been.

wouldn't surprise me at all.

>>119148117
we're all shitposters.

Why am I so fucking gay?

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I love how NMA recruits people daily just by being this edgy ultra contrarian website of "true" fans who want to feel elite.

>>119148369
I don't know...maybe because you like to have sexual intercourse with men?

you're gonna have to figure that one out yourself Anon.

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>>119147649
>>119147726
>ME3

Please be a bait.

>>119148369
For Piper?

>>119148369
Because your mother sexually abused you leading to an aversion to female attention/affection.

>>119148493
ME3 was complete and utter dogshit far worse then even the dogshit that was number 2.

ME3 used actual fucking SPRITES for NPCs running in the background, not even ME2 was EVER that lazy at any point.

>>119148369

Because you were born that way, Anon

And that's perfectly fine. Be proud of who you are.

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>>119148369
>tfw you will never be a cute little trap in the wasteland
>tfw you will never be filled with cum by a bunch of horny depraved men who have run out of fresh women to impregnate

>>119148627
Not him, but I'm gay and my childhood was completely normal. Got plenty of attention from both parents, never molested by anyone, had normal kid friends. Saw straight porn and shrugged it off, saw gay porn and popped a boner.

Freud was a hack.

>>119148458
>New Vegas
>Solid

yeah...about as solid as Diarrhea.

Don't get me wrong, I love New Vegas. but it has way less replayability because of the fact that the game's map bars you from going any other way (Without being a dick) but south.

>Deathclaws and Cazadores to the North
>Scorpions and a blind Deathclaw int he two shortcuts.

New Vegas' world map was straight up AIDS after playing it about 3+ times.

although New Vegas' weapon choices and gameplay was vastly improved.

but the Character skills and such were even more broken than Fallout 3...especially after DLCs...sure the Perk every other level helped...but...not that much.

>>119148458
>Fallout 'fans' attacking Fallout 'fans'

true fans don't give a shit about childish wars and just want to play some Fallout except BoS fuck that shit

>>119148917
>anything being more OP than Almost Perfect
>90% damage reduction in VATS

lol

>>119149005
>Mentioning BoS

no...we want to forget.

forget that and the Fallout Online that was going to be mediocre.

>>119149005
anybody who sets arbitrary rules and guidelines on a "true fan" is a fucking faggot. there's no such thing, just enjoy the shit. I can be a fan of FO NV and not a fan of FO3.

>>119149126
Yeah I don't see why some people say stuff like "Ur not a rel fen of fallout if u like fallout 3 and h8 new vegas You're a fan you just don't like that Fallout game.

>>119133306
>implying you arent a cyborg with implanted memories
come on nerd

>>119149086
Almost Perfect was OP. but it was a perk you got at Level 30.

and Fallout 3 has the same issue, but I felt it was done better than New Vegas in terms of Balance, not saying that balance is a must in a single player game...but jesus I should at least have to put in some effort to be a badass.

Why did People from Redditors say Piper is ugly?

She's not

So how hard would it be to make a mod that silences the pc dialogue and replaces the retarded chat wheel with rewritten lines of text in the old box?

>>119149553
Because they aren't into traps. It's ok if that's your fetish, anon.

>>119149660
Shouldn't be that hard.

>>119131735
She looks weird here but she looks pretty good in the the video.
Looks like they really stepped it up on the voice acting. Skyrim had some of the worst I've ever seen.
She's waifu material.
And look at these awesome fucking clothes. The aesthetics are so much better than in their previous installments. I almost wonder if they hired a legit clothing designer for this game.

>>119149660
Not hard.

people are just upset that they had it to begin with.

I think it's dumb...but hell, what do I know

>>119149553
You're right, but the first time she's seen is in meh lighting with meh resolution, compared to the clear focus and lighting that Nora got.

>>119149703
Why do people say Piper is a trap?

She's not.

>>119149773
I don't like the Dialogue wheel

Don't mind the VP.

>>119149914
Because she looks like a man.

She does.

Will Steam be preloading Fallout 4?

>>119139084
Why would you do such a horrible thing to Piper anon?

>>119149660

I'm sure it'll get done, but it'll take awhile. They'll have to make a new UI for it, then go through the dialogue files to get the actual lines used since the wheel just uses previews.

Probably be a key component of any quest mods, but by the time it comes out I probably won't be assed to care anymore.

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Nora > Piper

>>119149914
I can understand the wheel.

but really. Fallout 3 and New Vegas had about 4 options per screen on average. (other than 'Goodbye!' to end conversations)

sure, there were a few odd balls...but nothing massive.

>>119149553
>reddit
>having good taste
Piper is cute.

>>119150213

There were exceptions any time a character had exposition to give. It was a really good way to sort a bunch of backstory dialogue plus quest advancing lines.

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>>119150202
Clover>Nora

>>119149970
But anon do you not like that

And she looks like a women to me

>>119150202
Why?

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Swear to god if there isn't an Eyepatch item to wear. Can't stand not being a qt

>>119150430
Why:
>Pre-war purity
>MILF
>Sexy voice
>No man-chin

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>>119150430
>Sammy Sosa

kek

I'm going to stick my quantum harmonizer in Pipers photonic resonation chamber

>>119150058

Why wouldn't they? It's more than popular enough to warrant it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3IlHBBGCIw

>>119150712

Welcome to the present, Anon

>>119150712
MIND BLOWN

Jk I saw this 5 hours ago.

>>119150058
Yes, probably a few days before. Skyrim preload began on the 8th.

>>119149660
Continuing from this it probably wouldn't be hard to make an alternate start mod that skips the intro and just dumps you out of the vault with a few screens for customization.

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>>119150516
>No NVG
>No binocular function
cloth piece of shit/10 smh tbh fam

>>119150930
I hope the alt start mod puts you in Memory den,