/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

DS1 backstabs are shit

>>119039721
So are DaS2's backstabs.
Adding a little punch did absolutely nothing.

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>tfw nobody to slowly play through SotFS with killing bosses and exploring the world

>>119039979
PC?

>>119039721
>>119039878
they should've removed backstabs

PC or PS4 for Dark Souls 3?

>>119040148
both if you're not some poor cunt

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>>119040235
>eyes
WRONG

>>119040148
PS4 has Bloodborne but PC will always run better and have better textures.

>>119040148
ps4 no hackers

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>>119040063
Yeah, you fancy grouping up? I just blew my friends off to stay in and play.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198013950701

>>119040450
I have never encountered a hacker in DaS1 and i play on the pc.

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>>119040094
I think this is the only way. And let's be honest, what do backstabs really add to the game anyway?

It's just an unnecessary feature that screws up the balance between PvE and PvP

>>119040651
they are there, but not as much as /v/ shitposts for. They go for max anal devestation, most of the ones I have found are at the Forest and Oolacile.

That being said, its dead as fuck now so good luck finding anyone on pc DaS1 on anything but a weekend.

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>>119040340

>>119040450
>ps4 no games

Fix'd.

>>119041335
He is cuter with eyes.
You should take some artistic freedom sometimes.

>>119041434
>I dont like its games so it doesn't have games
fixed

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>>119041542
You sure?

>>119040450
After all the bullshit I witnessed while playing Souls on PS3 I'm not inclined to believe that.

>>119042083
Thats too much artistic freedom

>>119040642
When you want some coop hook me up im 1,9m sm and 3m sm.

>>119040467

Depends on which ones. I made a faith guy who used the Heide lance and he did pretty well. I've heard that Yorgh's spear is pretty good, but you'll have to beat pretty much all of Shulva (except for ye olde gank squad) to get to it.

I don't really mess around with polearms though, someone else might be able to help you more.

Would changing my Steam name to "Wisebuc Janneck" crash people's DS1 when they summon me / I invade them?

>>119043331

I think so. I'm pretty sure that's over the in game limit. Create a new character and see how long you can make the name, that should be the limit.

Is DS2:Scholar of the First Sin worth $20? I think it is on Gamersgate and think it redeems on Steam. Dark Souls 1 is one of my favorite games of all time but think I need to give 2 another shot.

>>119040831
From doesn't really care about PvP.

Can anyone drop me a Red/White Round Shield in Dark Souls? SL11, PC.

>>119042859
ps4 isnt hacked yet spazoid

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has anyone gotten codes for the DaS3 test?

i'm hoping that my crippling anxiety is wrong

Do people usually hit 1m soul memory before getting all four Great Souls on NG in DaS2?

>Sucking all around
>Decide to go take on Quelaag since I need to actually try for progress
>Bait her around and whittle down with close range arrow shows
>She has a sliver of health left
>Decide to try for style points
>Roll back, break lock-on, and swing up right as she gets on top of me and starts her chaos blade thing that would one-shot me
>Manage to get her right in the eye
And that revitalized me after the Catacombs ground me down.

>>119039878
Except made them very easy to avoid.

>>119043980
>yet

Exactly. Besides, I'm sure there will be mules again.

someone has a DaS1 megamule that lets you make your own character?

>>119043980
>>119044818
I literally saw a mule character drop a streamer everything on PS4 this morning.

>>119043620
Go for it.

At the very least you can bullshit around in the online since it doesn't take an hour to connect to people.

DaS1 is nearly as active as Scholar but the game seems barren.

>>119044107
No, they usually have a little less than that. 700-800k or so.

>>119043620
Yes, it is.

>>119045632

That mule was made manually by the twitch community with save backups I think.

Would you take time to make and cosplay your favorite armor?

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>>119040094
You should've gotten good.

>>119043620
Are steam keys from there actually legitimate? I've heard of people losing access to games after buying from third party distributors, but that's a pretty good price and I'd kind of like to move off of PS3 to PC since the game seems pretty dead on PS3.

>>119041335
Perfect!

>vanilla Dark Souls 2 is still 39.99 on steam
Sheesh

>>119046676
Gamersgate seems legit as they come. Kind of like a smaller GOG.

>>119043954
pls

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>>119047125

>300 hours or so in DS1
>50 hours in DS2, but never completed the game
>Just did a no-death challenge run in DS1
>Friend asks me to do the same with him in DS2
>Die repeatedly, all the time. Can't get past pursuer.
Please, how do I git gud. I start with the bandit class for the low caster stats, and grab the halberd as my first real weapon, but I'm getting pummeled at every turn. I can't dodge for shit, even though I had no issues with that in DS1. What's happening /vg/?

Obviously everything in DaS3 won't be in the network test, but what do you really hope is in so you can try it out?
Like greataxes or something.

>>119047554
good greathammer movesets i.e kirkhammer from bloodborne

>>119047551
>I can't dodge for shit
you gotta level adp to get those sweet sweet i-frames

>>119047554
More armors that arent impossibly heavy or overly huge.

>>119047551
>I start with the bandit class

You have the fewest iframes it's possible to have in the game. Bandit starts with like 6. You can avoid most attacks, but you've gotta have that shit down.

Best to just level ADP.

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>get summoned by a cheater
>even cheaters need summons

Is vanilla das2 more active online than scholar or something?

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>>119048235
HHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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I'm going to play some Demon souls, maybe I'll beat it.
Wish me luck

I FUCKING HATE BED OF CHAOS

Even knowing how to beat it easily doesn't help with getting to its heart, its pure fucking luck whether or not it decides to start a flame attack while your in mid air and knock you into the pit

How the fuck did this boss ever get past QC?

>>119048605
Absolutely not, the last time I compared their Steam stats there were like 10x more people playing SotFS than vanilla DS2. PtDE is almost as active as Scholar but since the matchmaking is ass you never see anybody until some faggot invariably invades you in Anor Londo.

>>119044741
Not really.
Facestabs still happen often
It's the same as before, except they gave you armor which makes you immune to it.

>>119049546
That explains why the game is STILL FUCKING FULL PRICE FUCK

>>119049290
If you get around SL50 lemme know. I'm on my first character and I'm at the final boss. I came into the DeS game too late for any online action.

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>>119049736
I'm only 29 and no where near the end.
Whenever I hit that point though I'll post in the thread, hopfully you'll see it.

What does Ciaran's butt smell like?

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>>119049991
"I'm always here."

>>119040094
>>119040831
Charge attack stun into visceral attack up the ass was literally the one good change Bloodborne made to Souls combat. Wish they'd have kept it for DaS3.

>>119044107
Depends. If you do all the optional bosses before killing all the Great Souls and properly explore all the regions, there's a pretty good chance you're gonna go over 1M before going to Drangleic. But if you don't, you're generally at this level >>119045675

For DS2 pvp, I need advice on a fourth ring. Using a Loyce Greatsword + Varangian small shield.

Rob+2 flynn and chlo. +2. Asides from Third dragon ring, what else could I benefit from?

>>119049290
Endure the frustrating bits, because overall the game is fun as hell.

>>119049415
>How the fuck did this boss ever get past QC?

Deadlines man. Bed of Chaos was originally going to be a real boss not a puzzle boss (there are unused assets for it as an actual boss.) Most likely they realized they weren't going to get it done in time, came up with a quick solution and couldn't finish it in time to do any fine tuning so out the door it went.

>>119049676
Facestabs happen, but they are easy to avoid. The thing is, all you need to do is to roll away a little before they start backstab punch. On their screen, you should take lag into account. So as long as you can predict when your opponent is fishing (which is very easy in random duels) you can escape them.

>>119040831
dat true.

Anyone have the webm of the soul sword for DaS3?

>>119049687
>That explains why the game is STILL FUCKING FULL PRICE FUCK

It's probably full price because they don't want new players to go with the DX9 version to save some money. Presumably the only reason it's still up at all is that they don't want to lose the sales of people who want to play on a toaster.

>>119051258
Just like Dark Souls 1.

>>119051183
That still doesn't excuse the spammy cheapness of it

Surely it wouldn't have been that difficult to alter its AI so it doesn't hit when you get to the log

I've got there six times now, four of those times it started an attack that's hit my when I land and the other two times it instantly flame pillar that was impossible to avoid on the really small area you have to maneuver


Even if they didn't want to do that they could have easily put a bonfire before the boss fog so i don't have to either run all the way from Queelag's sister or run through the lava past the half dragon things every time I get killed by bullshit

Pyromancer is starting with 12 res
if i change it to 1 and redistribute the remaining 11 points into other stats, will watchdog see it?

>>119051604
Do you have to cheat?

>>119051701
Yes

>>119050901
>Loyce GS
Ew.
Try ring of the living.
>>119051419
Yep, but you have around extra 20 frames to dodge backstab, which amounts to a lot.

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>>119051351

>>119051920
Muh dick. Definitely making an int build.

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>>119051920
I actually don't like how defined the blade is.

Most Soul Sorceries, especially the ones in Des and Das1 are basically a collection of swirling energy vaguely wrested into a desired shape. DS3's Soul Greatsword is so well shaped, it looks odd to me.

>>119051920
i love how it's a magic version of the MGS now instead of like just this blue flame

>>119051920
Never noticed but things that stick all the way up to the camera look way longer than they are

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>Estus represents sperm

Is this canon?

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>>119052321
Think of it like the blade of the Moonlight sword from Demon's Souls, which was basically just energy.

>>119052619
It's just a theory

>>119051586
It doesn't excuse it but it explains it,

>>119050645
>literally the one good change Bloodborne made
The full list of changes BB made for better is far higher than the clusterfuck of a shit game DS2.

>>119053315
list them

Holy shit, I'm using magic for the first time in Demon Souls, holy shit is it strong.
Is it this good in all the Souls game?
I'm finding trouble thinking of a reason to have been using melee this whole time

>>119053964
1. 30 fps for the true cinematic experience

It's all that matters

>>119054192
Magic makes the game boring.
You're just pressing R1 from a safe distance.

>>119054272
Yeah but my melee is doing no fucking damage, I got no choice.
I just fought Flamelurker, with a quality +2 board sword.
Did like zero fucking damage.

>>119054427
Because quality is garbage.
Get a crushing knight sword.

>>119054427
Quality +2 long sword*

So I'm certain I have all the requirements for the Knight's Honor achievement in Dark Souls 1 but it isn't popping. On Steam. Any ideas?

>>119054917
You're missing some weapon.

>>119050901
Bump

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>>119053964
>charged r2s with followup attacks
>unique running r1, r2 and backstep r1, r2
>unique transformation and post-transformation attacks which can be used for baiting
>viable l2 on all weapons that have a 2h transform mode
>better movesets on every types of weapons, even greathammer is fast as fuck and can be devastating if used correctly
>well-though elemental and physical resist system for almost all enemies, weapons can be fine-tuned to increase only one type of damage to insane proportions (steak driver with charge gems, rifle spear with thrusting gems, wheel with arcane or blunt gems, tonitrus with nourishing gems, etc)
>special properties on weapons like serrated and blessed (which were present in ds1 but only here made truly valuable, especially serrated which is a 20% damage boost against beasts)
>strong as fuck consumables, there's no useless items, stuff like beast blood pellets or shaman blade are extremely powerful if used right
>can only carry 1 vial of special healing items so you can't stack blood of adella which is pretty much an elizabeth's mushroom of the game
>coop matchmaking between any level with stat scaling depending on host's level
>invasions have an invasion level cap, you won't invade a BL500 with BL30 character
>invasion item can be bought in very beginning and is infinite, no SM, easiest ganks in series
The only good thing from DS2 that BB lacks is respec option. In every single BB is just better, and that includes pvp as well which is although not as deep as ds1 pvp, not a laggy overly "balanced" snoozefest of the second game.

>>119054973
I've checked the list against what I've got twice now.

>>119055526
You were online when you collected the last one?

>>119051586
IIRC there's a hidden bonfire nearby.

>>119052619
>waaaaahhh area transitions
>hawk is stupid!! not like muh bat demons1!!1!
>no mention of the raven
I still don't understand.

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>>119052321
I'm conflicted.

I get where you're coming from and I liked how the old versions looked like a big chunk of magic you forced into shape, but the neatness of the new one gives you that "I know exactly what I'm doing here" vibe from the character.

I guess I'll just have to like them both.

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How many times do I gotta run to kill this Red Eye Knight for his sword?
Fuck

>>119054917
Steam can be dumb like that, you'll likely just have to make another boss weapon.

The last thing I needed to platinum DaS2 was the sorcery trophy and it didn't pop up until I'd gotten soul vortex from Tseldora a second time.

>>119056450
if you mean the knight sword, you just get one in 1-4
if you mean the claymore, you can just buy one in 1-2

wouldn't bother farming them

>>119056915
I don't have 1-4 unlocked yet.
It says the red eye knight drops it in 1-1, killed him like three times and nothing.
It's such a pain to get to him, even with the short cut

>>119057084
Why would a spear knight drop a sword? Don't bother.

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>>119057446
That's what I was thinking when I read his posts.

>>119055683
Yep.
>>119056481
Is there any way to make CE do this for me?

>>119057446
>>119057658
But the wiki said he does.

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/knight-sword

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>Make DEX character
>Petrified something gives me channeler's trident
>Use it because I haven't before
>Get invaded in Heide
>About to win
>Invader whiffs an attack
>Go for strong attack out of habit
>Get backstabbed while dancing

Umbasa dammit

>>119057783
Doesn't the 1HR2 do a spinny stab?

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Who else is excited for proper mail shirt?

>>119057697
Probably, you'll just have to turn a random small soul into a boss soul, or perhaps just add one into your inventory. I don't really fuck around with CE so I can't tell you the specifics.

>>119057848
The 2HR2 does the dance.

>>119057848
I was using it 2H because I don't really like shields.

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I did it!

Fucking finally

Anyone willing to help out with the Capra Demon? I'm outside its fog gate, level 18.

Where do you fucks go to do some ravelording? I'm not getting shit anywhere.

anyone killed lud and zallen ng+7? any tips? i cant put up with this bullshit.

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>>119058747
But of course it couldn't let me without one finally unavoidable AOE attack

>>119058829
On PS3, I forgot to say.

>>119058893
I only ever get gravelorded in the area just after Quelaag anymore, but since I rarely go past NG it doesn't really affect me anyways. There might be more gravelording in later stages of the game, but I haven't really seen it.

That's one of those covenants that just didn't age well as people moved on.

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>>119058893
township SL110~125

>>119054917
This guy again. Success! In case any one else is having the same problem, I got it to pop after restarting the game then dropping a bunch of the needed items and picking them back up. Probably just the dropping and picking up would do it though.

in Das1 is dual wielding weapons viable at all, like it is in ds2 due to powerstance?

>>119059585
don't the off-hand weapons not behave normally in DS1?
I never did dual wielding for some reason in DS1 even though I do it whenever possible in games

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Man, those details.

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>>119051920
Those iframes better be good Miyazaki

>>119060487
as long as the rolling skill doesn't start out below acceptable minimum

>>119060682
>rolling skill

How about we don't?

>>119060886
well think on this guy, I like to roll
I like to roll a lot
roll me up~!

>Only Females can wear silver brace

SEX
ISM

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>skipped beta registration because of lack of internet
Why even live?

>>119061296
>OnIy maIes can have the jobs with good pay

They can have their brace.

>>119061734
women can get those jobs, but at less pay mang

>>119061775
What about male model?
can they be that?

>>119061296
Good thing my first character was female.
But yeah, gender restricted armors are fucking retarded. I wanted to try on Garl's leggings but nooooo.

>Dragon God
>His spamming flame bullshit always does 75% hp
>Suddenly does 100%

Fucking bullshit.
Is the water veil spell worth it for this part?

>>119062243
Yes it is, don't let the description fool you.
It says "slightly" but it actually reduces fire damage by 45%

>>119058936
good job anon!

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>That feel when you beat the dragon god

>>119063329
I dont understand. What feel is this?

>>119063430
#buttstuff

>>119063430
The feel of wanting to violate a blind woman's innocence

>>119063543
>innocence
we're talkin about the lady in black,right?

>>119063971
*maiden

what the fuck is wrong with me today

What are the odds that everything bad that happened in Dark Souls is Gwyn's fault?

>>119063329
Beat him on the first try because I sat behind a pillar just learned his patterns.

>>119064550
It was Seath's fault for being an emo jealous nigger.

>>119063971
Ancient witch with power beyond the ken of mortals or not, no one is ready for a dick in their pooper

>>119064956
I'm ready
but then, I've had time to prepare

Spin-off where you play as Gwyn in his prime during the war when?

>>119065298
Gathering game for mobile platforms where you play as the lords who found souls in the flame and kill dragons then suck up their remnants to level up
Nito's miasma summons cartoony zombies
The Witch of Izalith's daughters are all super 'kawaii'
Gwyn's knights all follow like pikmin and as you level up you get more and eventually so many that it lags your device because no programmed knight cap
Seath gets bigger and bigger as you level up

>>119065663
I think youre on to something. . .

Do you think the DaS3 test will be reverse engineered like the DaS2 one was?

>>119065764
don't forget the mandatory micro-transactions

>>119065784
Probably not since the graphics aren't much different from Bloodborne and the ones you could play at events all ran on consoles.

How to get network test code?

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>>119065972
I mean, with the icons, text files, sprite sheets pulled directly from it.

>>119066003
You have to had signed up first, and then it would be sent to your e-mail, if you were accepted.

Should I do Gutter, Grave of Saints, or go back to the area in Shaded Woods that I ran like a bitch from earlier when I saw a giant basilisk and it triggered my PTSD from my first time in the Depths?

>>119066184
That doesn't tell me how to get one.

Who has spare codes?

>>119052321
DaStards will complain about ANYTHING

Can some one help me with the belfry gargoyles on PC? this whole game is gang bang

>>119066251
yes it did. You had to sign up. How do you not get that?

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>>119066180
>TWoP is a hex now

>>119066716
Are you stupid?

That tells me how I could have gotten one, not how to get one now.

It's quite plausible that somebody has a spare code to give or sell, but it is impossible for me to still get one from the developers.

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>Buy 81 Cresent Moon Grass
>He took the souls but I didn't get the grass
what the fuck

>>119067064
check your storage

>>119067128
I did, nothing there.

>>119066180
the hell are those things on the bottom, pyromancy?

>>119065784
Is it just me or does early DaSII still have better lighting? Texture-wise, next-gen is obviously more detailed, but have we seen anything on the level of early Dragon Aerie? That contrast man.

I don't have next-gen, so feel free to correct me.

>>119066180
Icons look so good now.

>>119064550
it really is. if he'd just given in to the age of darkness and let men take over, than the undead curse would've never started.

For a battle axe build pvp DS2, would I gain more from 40+ str and only 20dex? The scaling is B/D

When are the DaS3 codes going out?

>>119063329
She is not Blind, her eyes are covered in wax.

>>119067806
>giving a shit about scaling in ds2
just make it magic or dark and slap robflynn on top

>>119067806
In DaS1 terms, that's D+/E-. 15% dex scaling. That's +30 AR from 99 DEX. Worthless.

Whats the best place to get summoned around SL60 in dark souls 2?

>>119067956
kek

>>119059585
not really, largely sucks because you don't have access to the full moveset of your offhand weapon. you only have a parry/block and a weak attack.
offhand thrusting swords make good parrying weapons due to decent active frames and few recovery frames. poke also comes in handy
curved swords have a fancy parry animation but have a lot of recovery
offhand spear gives you a decent ranged poke but is useless to block with
whips have a somewhat useful attack that can punish people and they can also parry. they're useful for building up critical effects like poison or bleed

can't think of anything else remotely useful. try dual thrusting swords though

>>119068040
it's your soul memory that matters. not your sl.

>>119068013
Jesus fuck i hope we will see a good phys scaling in ds3 again.
At least it was god-tier in BB and Miyazaki seems to understand its importance.

>>119067956
Would I get the same if I just infused with fire + flame weapon?

>>119060205
Okay so that looks just like Ciaran's armor and the dark silver tracer / gold tracer right??

>>119068302
Scaling meant nothing compared to gems

>>119059585
>implying ds2 dual wielding is viable
left hand weapon gets -20% attack power debuff
there's no reliable l1-r1 combinations at all
shit is worthless with a few exceptions

Should I swap out my long sword with something else?

I'm in dukes archives right now and my 10+ longsword that I've been carrying since the burg just isn't cutting it anymore

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maybe it's for the best that this monstrosity never made it to the full game

>>119068607
Makes me sad, man. The network test was so fun.

>>119068457
Flame weapon is weaker than dark weapon from what i remember but you can certainly go for it.

>>119068302
I took a look at the bloodborne character creator and it looks exactly the same as the scaling system in Dark Souls 2.
No base weapon damage scaling multiplier.

>>119068606
longsword is great and should be able to see you through the entire game
you could invest in more dex/str for scaling damage, keep in mind that you get a 1.5x bonus to str when you're twohanding
or you could invest in a buff like crystal magic weapon or sunlight blade for more damage

>>119068848
Bloodborne has gems system which allows you to go for retarded scaling bonuses.
Base LHB's damage is 200, but it has an A/A scaling so on 50/50 STR/SKL it gets around 1000AR total with top tier 27.2% gems.

>>119060886
Yeah we shouldn't do it like that.
You should have to unlock the running skill first before you can unlock rolling.

>>119068493
And gems without scaling means even less.
Reiterpallach on my twink only has like 300 AR with top gems while rocking with base stats. 550-600 on full SKL build.

>>119068926
Nope, no buffs
Pure knight playthrough, no magic of any kind

Does the scaling get better when it starts to move toward +15
I have about 30 strength and dex and it just isn't killing shit fast enough

>>119067956
I'm clueless, but doesn't Flynn's ring lose it's potency on elemental weapons?

Or am I thinking of something else?

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>>119068716
everything was hilariously broken
shortsword infinite 1hr1 stunlock
broken stun animations online
black phantoms that were like NG++++++ enemies
witching urns that you could throw gigantic distances around corners
no one knowing what agility did, so everyone got hit by soul spear
unstoppable war zwei meta

>>119069247
no, flynns adds the full bonus to element weapons, it's ring of blades that doesn't
flynn's doesn't work on critical attacks or ranged weapons though

>>119068607
Jesus christ that looks fucking awful

>>119069247
>Flynn's ring lose it's potency on elemental weapons
Nope, you will get full 50 AR +35 from RoB+2 instead of 50.
DS2 scaling is pathetic and even more broken thanks to the rings.

Also you can experiment with using raw weapons, everything is better than dumping 40 to combat stat that won't give you any returns.

>>119069162
yeah, you should see a good increase in damage. stats tend to softcap at about 40 so put dex up and keep str at 30 because you can get the 2h bonus with it. if you're really looking for a change then try a greatsword like claymore or bastard sword. good damage and they'll make full use of your str and dex. alternatively there's ultragreatswords like the zweihander or the greatsword that'll do a ton of damage and still make full use of your stats.

>>119067064
patches?

>>119066180
im going to mod this into das nau

Man I've always played either fast weapon characters or mages, but I'm a good chunk of the way through DaS2 with an ultra greatsword STR and having a blast. I really didn't expect a big slow weapon to be this much fun.

>>119069162
The actual stat scaling doesn't increase with weapon upgrades in DaS1.
Scaling does get a bonus based off base weapon damage, so your upgrades will increase your scaling.

Why do people find Artorias difficult? I'm pretty terrible at the game and I've killed him twice with no deaths of my own.

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>>119044076
I'm still waiting on a goddamn email too. This suffering.

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>>119066180
What they did to DS2 really fucking pains me.
I hate Bamco for being jews, i hate Shibuya for trying to make a huge openworld from ds2 and i hate Tanimura for removing those features that were already playable like pyromancies being a magic school or magical aiming and hilariously half-assed balance patches after release.

From what i remember there was supposed to be a spell which allowed you to convert INT into DEX for a limited time, this alone could've been absolutely awesome for build diversity.

Instead everything fun was nerfed into oblivion, DS2 has worst magic in the entire series now and the only top tier weapons are no fun longsword and estoc.

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>Thank you for applying.
>Unfortunately, you were not selected for the test.

Anyone got any extras?

>>119069829
I only found him difficult when I was being overly aggressive

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>>119069968
Why would anybody in their right mind use a spell that changes int to dex when they could just make an int/dex build?

And yeah, DaS2 magic is the 'worst', in that you can't make OHKO builds as easily

>>119068716
>The network test was so fun.

I had an invader who thought he was in co-op for some reason, and I decided to just let him follow me around wondering why he couldn't attack the enemies. It was kind of amusing. I think he fell off a cliff or something.

>>119070232
Souls magic should either:
-have a good tracking but mediocre damage
-have no tracking but huge damage
to be balanced.
DeS magic had both retarded tracking on most spammable spells and insane damage.
DS1 greatly reduced spell tracking but kept the damage so it was balanced, especially in pvp, anyone crying about mages in DS1 is a horrible scrub of the highest caliber, especially in 2015.
DS2 magic has nor damage nor tracking on top of ability to stack elemental resists to easily negate 30-40% of damage and use small shields with 100% elemental resistance.
Hell even Bloodborne did magic better, damage was mediocre but tracking on all spells except for like one was superb compared to rest of series.

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>>119070654
Magic babbies, folks.
>"TWOP with dark magic is balanced!"
>"My manus catalyst CSS + CHSM is fair!"

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>>119070937
>complaining about post-nerf twop which lasts like 10 seconds and has a small range
>bringing manus catalysts of all things into argument

>>119070093
i'm with you here, man.
>wait forever for the fucking Burgerstan lottery to work
>this happens

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>>119071098
It only lasts ten seconds, so it's fine, everybody, don't worry. It'll NEVER have any applications

>>119071365
The only application it has it trying to spawnkill you and there's workarounds for it.
Aside from spawnkilling lmao good luck catching anyone but complete retards in.

What are guys the most worried about over DaS3?

Circle jerking aside

>>119071627
Random invasions not working properly for the third game in a row.

>>119071627
I'm worried about dirty foreigners without English speaking skills coming in and shitting the PvP up

Go back to translate and try again

>>119071627
Magic balance

>>119069968
>hate tanimura
I'm glad he's working with Miyazaki for this.

>>119071627
solaire fanservice

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>>119071627
Webm related.

>>119071627
Some shitty pvp gimmick like bell maidens.
I mean, i fucking love BB's pvp, it's much better than shitfest of DS2, but to get instant invasions you need to invade only in Nightmares, everywhere else it's DS1-tier 3-5 minutes between invasion waiting and it was my only gripe with the game.

>>119071549
If they bring it back in 3 it should use the same sounds and animation as one of the heal spellsbut with slightly subtle differences,so that people who think you are healing are enticed to come close and punish it, but soon realize they got tricked when they slow to a crawl. Theyll either have to punish from range or learn the difference between great heal and twop

>>119071905
Tanimura is not bad. He designed DLC and they were great, he worked on STA which was a fairly unique experience even among fromsoft games. Together with Miyazaki he can do something pretty good UNLESS he will be allowed to balance weapons.

>>119071840
I'm on my phone with the fucking autocorrections

>>119071627
WoG will be overpowered until they patch it

>>119071627
being able to edit game files without being banned
If I can't make changes to a game I purchased it makes my sense of entitlement shudder and begin to move!

>>119072149
get fucking good retard
wog is a backstab bait in any souls game

>>119071627
the online component.
I want DaS1-style(or better) invading and co-oping. Fortunately, SM isn't coming back.

>>119071627
>What are guys the most worried about over DaS3?

Movement speed seems a little fast, but that might just be an artifact of not having equipment load implemented yet. Otherwise I'm mostly concerned about the environments and bosses being fun, gameplay will ultimately be a Souls game including all the good and bad that comes with that.

>>119071627

That poise won't work again for the second time. I lost so many fights in DaS2 just because poise never worked properly and they gifted you a 2 hit stunlock.

I'm also worried about the mobility. Light rolling looks faster for some reason, which will make the PvE a fucking joke yet again because of excessive i-frames. I never liked i-frames on rolls. Makes it more of a free "get me out of here" tool rather than an actual dodge that you have to time correctly. This isn't a character action game, i-frames should only be allowed when you get up slowly from the floor to avoid infinite stunlocks or bullshit moments.

It has been YEARS and I still can't get over the fact that in a Souls game, it's perfectly fine to roll INTO attack hitboxes because your i-frames will guard you from everything. This is double true for DaS1 and the ninja flip ring, which almost seems like a fucking overpowered joke item.

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>>119072535
>2hit stunlock
>two hits
>Stunlock

>>119072535
It's been how the games have worked since...well..their creation. I-frames were absolutely essential in DeS, and a major game mechanic.

If you don't like it, you don't like Souls.

>>119072535
The only thing poise should do it to allow you to tank fast spammy longsword attacks.
Outside of that there should be a hyperarmor system governing everything and nothing more.

>>119072647
Who's this penis machinist?

>>119071627
Cheaters. I don't want to have to play on console.

>>119072130
>and they were great
kek

>>119073606
DS2 DLC are the only genuinely great pieces of DS2 content.

>>119073671
If you aren't an invader.

>>119071885
does anybody else feel like ranged combat kind of breaks souls games? the AI doesnt even react to it properly

getting back into dark souls 1

I miss gfwl fanmail

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>tfw got the beta downloaded, but I didnt get selected

Am I not good enough? is that it?

>>119073934
It's been like this since Kings Field.
From has no idea how to balance it.

>>119073934
the number one way I cheesed bosses in DaS1 was with either a crossbow for arena bosses or bows for bosses that can be killed at range from safety

>>119073896
at that point i gave up about ds2 pvp
and in eleum loyce there's no retarded elevators so you can actually follow the host from what i remember

>>119074028
you should still be able to play it when they switch on the servers

why is it so lonely here.

trying to farm loyce souls at ng with 1 bonfire ascetic nobody summons me

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Does using a +10 Ricard's Rapier in the Parish church at SL11 count as twinking? Ricard's does such shit damage with base requirements.

>>119074287
ds2 is dead and will only get more lonely until it's rightfully forgotten

DaS1 "Oolacile" additional content is far superior to the original game.

>>119074287
>he doesn't mention his SM

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http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/storm-beast

The most obnoxious enemies to exist.

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DeS anon how far have you gotten?
I'm about to move into my living room and try to kill Allant. Guess I'll come back after each death to check for replies.

Wish me luck, guys!

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>>119074827
Oh wow I just came on the thread anon.
I'm level 30 at Storm of Shrines first area.
Yes that's me whining about Storm Beasts

Gonna go find the theif ring and come back to it.

>>119074648

about 4.6 million

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>>119074685
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/blowdart-sniper

these fuckers are up there too

So, just curious, what's your policy when people summon you and expect you to do all the work for them?

I've been doing co-op in Anor Londo for a few days and occasionally someone hides from Super Ornstein / Super Smough and just watches me solo them. It's sort of irritating but I just carry on and show them how it's done. Curious what others would do in that situation.

>hacker invades
>spirit of vengeance invades immediately after
>he catches on to what's going on
>we conspire to kick him off a cliff
beautiful

>>119075104
Hide with him.

>>119074969
Please do not sexualize the maiden.

>>119072535
>I never liked i-frames on rolls. Makes it more of a free "get me out of here" tool rather than an actual dodge that you have to time correctly.

Have you seen the hit detection in the Souls series? i-frames are necessary to make dodge rolls work at all.

>>119075104
! CURSED !

>>119075104
I usually lay down my sign because I want to kill whatever boss again without the trouble of NG
whether the little dudes help me is up to them
sometimes if I get irritated I imitate my favorite summon who flaked and get naked with Xanthous Crown and do the 2H strong dance with Channeler's trident

>>119074028
>You’ll need to enter your online ID in order to receive your product code. Only users whose online ID has been registered in this fashion can participate in the Network Stress Test, so please ensure that your online ID is entered correctly.

>>119074502
You're wrong.

>>119066180
cool. anything else datamined?

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>>119074685
>>119075008
>not these motherfuckers
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/ice-rat
also wtf google?

>>119075419
considering their past fuckups with the ds2 network test and their current fuckups here it's kinda ballsy for them to do that

>>119075104
I co-op because I want to help the host clear content. If they're so desperate to get past a boss that they're going to hide and let me do it for them rather than enjoy the fight then at least they're less likely to get themselves killed before I can rush in to try and save them.

>>119075662
>bosses look great and have super smooth animations
>hard but not frustrating, enemies punish sloppy plays but don't have cheap instakill attacks
>just super fun in general
I'm right.

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What set of armor is this?

>Got into the Stress Test
>Lost my registration/confirmation code weeks ago
>Can't complete my registration properly unless Namco save my bacon

This is a stressful feeling.

>>119076074
Bandit Set

>>119076074
looks like bandits with a weird skin color

>>119076198
This. Bandit Set on a female.

>>119075008
>these fuckers are up there too

They're not that hard if you found the Spider Shield while you're in the depths and can put two and two together after the first time they murder you.

Where are summons not dead in ds1?

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>I DIDN'T GET IN

someone please tell me you have an extra code

>>119076056
You just described most of the base game as well, though.

>>119076429
Simon and Garfunkel is pretty much always a hot spot.

>>119076435
no me

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>>119076429
I was getting consistently summoned pretty much everywhere. Make sure you have your ports forwarded and you're in level range.

It seems to vary more based on time of the week lately, though, so you might get slow periods mid-week. I got summoned for O&S every 5-10 minutes though over the weekend, at SL 48 on PC.

Aside from that, Gargoyles and Taurus Demon were easy to get summons for around level 10. I even got a few summons for Duke's Archives at level 48, surprisingly.

I should note that I'm in a Sun Sister though, not sure how much difference that makes with level range.

>>119076471
Only the first half. :^)

I pirated ds2 and am having a blast so thought I would buy SotFS. Can I copy my old save games into a new install?

>>119076704
I am personally far more likely to pull someone from a sign if it's golden

>>119076435
Having the client isn't enough.

>>119076708
Which consists of more content than the DLC.

good build with azal's staff?

>>119068607
The funny thing is, that spell is still in the game and one of the few bullet editing changes that are visible to other players online.

>>119076782
I dunno, I find they tend to be a little obnoxious spamming the Praise emote and that they're more likely to want to gank invaders (I try to do point-down to tell them to back off but it never works)

On that note if there's some universal way of telling summoned phantoms that I'd like to 1v1 the invader, let me know. The sad thing is even when I do try to fight them fair they tend to overcompensate because they see my phantoms and panic, but I'd rather be the better person.

>>119077217
>On that note if there's some universal way of telling summoned phantoms that I'd like to 1v1 the invader, let me know
There isn't one and there shouldn't be one. If you want to 1v1 invaders, don't fucking summon. Your ally isn't gonna just sit there and watch his efforts and time get wasted so you can have a honorabru duel. They want souls and insight and to complete the PvE mission with you.

>>119076826
If they have an extra code, they'll have an extra ID they used to sign up for it.

>>119077385
Well, I like to summon just for the fun of multiplayer, because it actually makes the easier bosses more fun instead of beating them alone for the millionth time. But I like pvping with invaders too because I'm pretty good at pvp.

Oh well, I guess black crystal is my only recourse.

>>119077385
this. It's pretty universal ettiquette that if you have a summon when you're invaded, they get the first crack at the invader. otherwise, you might die and they get nothing for their trouble.

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>I still aggro every storm beast with thief ring on

Are township and forest the only pvp at 120 nowadays? Is burg still kicking?

Whats a good combo after parry and riptose DS2? I've been using Great Combustion, but is anything else better?

>>119077217
>>119077385
This fucking code of honor bullshit ruined PvP.
What made DaS PvP special was the asymmetry and unpredictability, go to the assigned 1v1 arenas in Undead Burg or something instead of ruining the game for people that like the intended mixed pvp+pve design of the game.

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>mfw played Dark Souls and Demons souls innumerable times, sold Dark Souls 2 because it was shit, and borrowed a PS4 to play bloodborne so I can't play it again

I'm playing Dark Souls again, but I just.. I want something new so bad. This is suffering

>>119077938
I actually agree with you though, anon. As an invader it's really fun to try and use every trick in the book to kill an entire gank squad. Nothing more rewarding than picking off phantoms one by one before killing the host after he's chugged all his estus.

But as a host I'd rather actually have a challenge with an invasion instead of just triple backstab fishing them.

>>119066180
>hexes again
God please tell me they're doing something more interesting with those this time around, I even preferred them conceptually as dark magic in DaS.
On the other hand, those blue pyromancies could be really fucking good if the color represents higher temperatures for the stronger stuff. If they made a blue combustion-like pyromancy with a sharper, more focused flame I'd need a change of boxers.

>>119061734
They also gain 100 Souls to the female's 75.

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>>119071923

>>119078408
>let me just stand still while the boss slowly spins like a retard

>>119078408
oh boy, more giant humanoids with weapons! just what the Dark Souls games needed

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>>119076826
this>>119077565
i just want to play so bad

>>119078525
How about a giant dog with a weapon?

>>119078145
no bro, those are the Dark Souls 2 network test spell icons

the pyromancies are : firestorm, great fireball, swollen fireball, and the reflect pyromancy one i don't remember the name of
swollen fireball is the one exploding fireball the skeleton lord casts

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>>119078525
Stop that, you can't expect the game to have absolutely no large humanoids. Especially in a series about fucking giants.

What matters is how visually interesting they are, how diverse their movesets are, and how spread out they are.

>>119078525
Are you retarded? Or did you just hear some of us talking about how saturated Dark Souls 2 was with them and are just throwing it around to look cool? That webm alone tells me that all the gameplay problems with giant humanoid enemies is not there. It doesn't move or fight like a human would.

>>119077076
POST
WEBM

what about swollen fireball?

>>119078408
This was so obviously meant to kill anyone who got that far.
It's not dodgeable. You can only roll four or five times depending on class, and it has monstrous tracking.

Adding arenas was such a huge mistake.

wanderer armor set is back right?
... right? please?

>>119077896
are you going through 5-1?
you know there's a skip that sends you straight to the boss ;)));)));;))

>>119079092
>muh meem waifu armor
>>>/reddit/

>>119078982
You're one of those people who had a lot of trouble with Kalameet, right?

Just stay farther out of range of it for a while until its attack is over.

>>119071627
I'm almost sure the aesthetic, lore, attention to detail and level design wont match my expectations.
They would really have to make an incredible masterpiece to come anywhere near the inflated perception I have of the level of quality the first couple games had, which is especially unlikely after the trainwreck DaS2 was.

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>>119079000

Personally I like "humanoid with gimmick" type bosses
It creates a sort of consistency where you can make the diversity more about the difference between individuals on the same type
Like the differences between O&S, Crossbreed, and Artorias

Although I'm pretty satisfied with whatever and not very good at the game so yeah

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>>119078476
If they are anything like the invisible sanctum knights, then they must be easy. Of course I don't really know, I haven't played Demon's Souls.

>>119079257
>first couple of games
>DS2 was a trainwreck

Nani?

>>119079337
>1v1 me fag
Literally fuck off.

>>119079235
You can't.
She crosses the entire arena, and like I said, it has monstrous tracking.

>>119078698
>Especially in a series about fucking giants.
This sentence makes my butt hurt, there were other games before DaS2.

>>119079368
I wish Sif could be befriended
I miss Sif

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>finally beat DeS for the first time
>decide to kill King Allant because I thought that was how I got the "good ending"
>wait there's more
>Maiden tells me to go back
>I headbutt her to see what happens
>it doesn't stumble her, but kills her in one fucking hit
WAIT WHAT N-NO WHAT'S
>cue "bad end" cutscene
>literally walk all over the Maiden and become the new heart of the Old One
I let everybody down including myself.
Fuck.
Of course.

>>119079394
Why are you mad about a completely optional thing? Too shit to get an edgy aura?

>>119079163
why are you so angry mate, i just like wanderer armor and i use it on my main male character

>>119079394
this. they should bring back battle of stoicism, and people should actually play it.

>>119079382
DeS, DaS, DaS2, BB.
First couple.

>>119079368
They're the hardest enemy in Demon's Souls in a 1v1.
They can't really be stunlocked, they have hyper armor, they can oneshot you on NG neutral tendency, they have assloads of defense and HP, etc.

Theres one single black skeleton on the path to the 4-1 boss, all alone on a stairway, and it's always surrounded by bloodstains.

Those are the easy black skeletons.

>>119079548
Bloodborne is better than DeS

>>119079396
So they really changed how rolling works in DS3? Or is the attack area even larger than it appears? Watching that webm I was instinctively pressing backroll after each swipe.

>>119079410
I meant giant humanoids in general, not the anus faces from DaS2.

You know, like how the architecture of Anor Londo implies there were people of varying sizes around?

Even the elevators outside of Gwynevere came in two sizes.