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Why hello there edition

Agility video out

>Fallout 4 facts and speculations (Stop asking questions that can easily be answered with google or with link below)
http://pastebin.com/bYVyGttW

ALL MEGA LINKS ARE DEAD
>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository (Mods, Rips, etc):
http://pastebin.com/q5ryvSZc
>VGU (Rips):
http://pastebin.com/v1adFSwj
http://pastebin.com/S2eDehza

>General Information, Recommendations, Run Ideas, etc:
http://pastebin.com/8JVSmK0b

>Tinker with parts of the new leveling system:
Vault111.com

>Countdown until release
http://fo4countdown.com/

Pre-war thread: >>118959698
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>>119013378
>TFW I know the artist immediately
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuo7AuDGNN8&list=PLSHdOA4o6T_c5iqXrXBIchAy78lPpZ9QY

Playlist link for all the SPECIAL videos.
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Third for "OMG GUYS CARS IN FALLOUT"
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Beep Boop
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Where will future fallout games take place?

Remember
-Obsidian = west
-Midwest is a canon grey zone
-BEthesda = east coast and south
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>>119013620
FO: Seattle (2017)
FO: Miami (2020)
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>yfw Staring at Female PC ass
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>>119013736
>FO: Miami (2020)
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>AGI is useless out of a certain playstyle
>INT isn't as useful as before
Charismatic Muscleman looks to be viable
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xth for WE STILL DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THIS PERK IS
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>>119013620
FO: New Orleans
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>playing TTW
>haven't played FO3 in years
>having fun
>exit out of the metro to georgetown
>WELL IF IT ISN'T THE LITTLE SAINT FROM THE VAULT
Oh my god
I forgot about these guys
Why do they shout talon company for no reason
How do i fix this
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>>119013981
Probably something about finding better building materials for your settlements out in the wastes.
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>Vault-Tec? Remind me again
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>>119014120

You'd think Todd would've self-inserted himself as someone more important.
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>not showing off that sweet female survivor butt in any of the trailers
someone call anita pls
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>>119014120
Can't wait to RP as Snake and ask every single question possible.
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>>119013953

ANDROIDS SON
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>Liking the Tomb Raider reboot
How
Why
It was garbage and even had cliche daddy issues nonsense.
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Rewatching the E3 video, why when you leave to go to the vault, is the Vault-Tec van still outside your house
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>>119014365

Psycho mantis?
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>WAAAAAAH
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>>119013981

I heard that the name of that perk is "Pot luck" so maybe...

...Yeah I dunno.

It just looks like he's going unhinged.
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>>119014441
Because Bethesda don't give a fuck.
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>>119014120
He spent the entire night on a bender snorting coke cut with caesium chloride off his wife's ass and drinking vodka out of his own ass so he had a hangover so bad he couldn't remember which planet he lived on much less what the fuck a Vault-Tec is.

This is Todd we're talking about after all.
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>>119013620
Los Angeles for Obsidian in 2017.
Probably New York in 2021 or 2022 for Beth (gives a chance for 9th gen consoles to be used)
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>>119014263
>>119014465
Jesus Christ can you stop shit-posting just for once?
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>>119014465
First of all, stop this shit.

Second of all people who care about Steam comments are as retarded as people who care about Youtube comments.

That shit is terrible.
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>>119013981

We'll find out next Wednesday, hopefully.
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>>119014181
>post yfw when its revealed that Todd is an android and shields you and your family from the blast with his own body
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>>119014465
I think the real butthurt fanboy is the guy that is obsessed over fucking steam forums of all things, posting caps in this thread
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>>119014006
Kill them.
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>>119014643
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>>119014441
It's a conspiracy! You don't believe that guy was really going to every door in your neighborhood, do you?
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>>119014579
I doubt BEthesda is going to go to NTC TBH.

In Fallout 3 and The Pitt the clearly established D.C., Pittsburgh, Boston, toronto, and wherever the fuck the Broken Banks actually are, as the 5 "big" and important regions on the east coast.

Other major east coast cities such as Baltimore have gone entirely unmentioned, or, in the case of Philly, it was a singular reference to it being "that dump" and "in ruins".

If Bethesda had plans to go to NYC, they would have hinted at it in Fallout 3, and they did not.
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>>119014697

>"Oh shit my son is still alive"
>He has amnesia of the nuclear blast
>Bring him photos from before the war
>"Oh... my head!"
>Turns out he was in your head the whole time
>Literally. 80 fragments of teeth and bone.
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>>119014643

Naw that Vault-Tec "salesman" is probably the leader of the Institute, who has been implanted into your false synth memories. :^)
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>>119014643
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>>119014786
Do you have this copy/pasted for whenever someone mentions they might want to see NYC?
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>>119014786
>NTC
NYC*
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>>119014263
>>119014465
Greeeeeeat the shitposter(s) are awake again.
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>>119014868
No?

And I've only said that once before also.
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Я твoй cлyгa Я твoй paбoтник
https://youtu.be/9P-JaG2PpyI


I ain't russian dont kill me syrians
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>>119015170
postan' synths
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>>119015331
>Daily reminder that you will find your son working for the Institute and he will essentially be pic related
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>>119014667
Besides that
Cmon there's gotta be a mod for this somewhere
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Digitally the game will become available on November 10, 2015, at 12:01 am (local time) in all territories
Does this mean that the game will be available earlier in Europe than in the states?

The countdown timers are different on different sites - vault111 has it down to 26 days and 8 hours, while fo4countdown says 26 days and 9 hours.
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>>119015546
Yes, you'll be able to use a VPN to unlock early.
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>>119015546
>Does this mean that the game will be available earlier in Europe than in the states?
No, they usually mean by Valve time, which is American pacific time.
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>>119015605
>>119015616
so which is it?
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>>119015716
Whats on steam

This game will unlock in approximately 3 weeks, 5 days and 17 hours
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>>119015716
It worked for Skyrim. I don't know what this >>119015616 Anon is talking about.
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>tfw AGE OF DECADENCE IS FINALLY OUT AFTER 11 YEARS!

P-e-r-f-e-c-t. Now I have a full month to satisfy my RPG-hunger entirely, then off we go to some lightweight fun with Fallout 4. Impeccable timing.
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So much
>hurr durr it's not top down so it's shit, muh Deus Ex, muh Morrowind, "Todd In Various Jewish Situations.jpg"
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>>119015775
I was thinking the same thing, because then you can just change your download location etc to eastern russia and get the game 8 or so hours before everyone else.

>>119015760
Which is now another timer to go by...
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>>119015775
Yeah, you can usually VPN a game to unlock it early if you really give that much of a fuck.
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>>119016001
>Which is now another timer to go by...
That is the official timer on steam, everything else is fan made bullshit.
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>>119016005
I've done it for a few games I've been hyped for with no repercussions, just stay in offline mode until the official unlock time has lapsed and don't use VPN to circumvent Steam's pricing. they will ban for that.
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It sure worth it to kill that Deathclaw for this!
it is still cool
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>>119015887
>people actually give a shit about Dukee Nukem Forever: RPG edition
Wow, people have even lower standards then I thought.
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>>119016086
Alright, I hope it'll be released at that time then.
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>>119014365
Laser Musket?
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>>119016148
Yeah, I've done it before too. Shit that it's against ToS though. For other services it's not explicitly against the rules. I have a buddy who will use a VPN to get a better price as well. Set it to mexico or something and sometimes you'll get a price adjustment.
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>>119016283
I've only done that with Origin. Got DA:I on their Mexico storefront for cheap, but I probably got Mexican AIDs in the process.
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>forgot that feral ghouls... speak
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>>119015616

Yes it does.

>Release Time
>Want to know exactly when you can start playing Fallout 4? Digitally the game will become available on November 10, 2015, at 12:01 am (local time) in all territories (In North America, the unlock time will be 12:01 am EST), except Asia (available at 12 am on Wednesday, November 11th) and Japan (available at 12 am on Thursday, December 17th).

Suck it down, amerifats.
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>>119016432
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>>119016460

Oh and ol' Pete already confirmed Australia isn't in the Asia retard zone, so they'll be the ones that get to enjoy the nuclear wastes the first (so make sure your VPN has aussie servers).
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I never looked at them before, but what the actual fuck is with those system requirements for FO4? I'm beginning to think I wont get 60 fps.
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>>119016394
Yeah, he did the same thing actually.
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>>119016460
I got the pip boy edition, so if Amazon emails me the code early I'll use a VPN to unlock it Aussie time, otherwise I'll just wait until I pick up my pip boy edition anyway.
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>>119016460
>implying we won't all be Australians at 12:01 that day.
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>>119016432

Where?
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>Australia gets the game 16 hours before everyone else
Damn
Thank god for VPNs.
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>>119016669
>Amazon emails me the code early

Pete said on Twitter that wasn't happening.
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>>119016736
Repconn test site, at least.
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>>119014697
Now I really want to model my Sole Survivor as Snake
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I look forward to the inevitable synth sex mods on Nexus
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>>119016763

Should I even bother with the free ones, or should I just look into the paid VPN free trials? Never bothered with the early Steam activations before, but I'll be damned if I wait 8 hours longer than I have to.

You just activate VPN, log into Steam and activate gaem, then go offline mode and disable the VPN and not log back in until my timezone catches up, right?
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>>119016794

I don't remember them "speaking" outside of their usual grunts and hisses
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>>119016682
>FO5: Outback
>no one outside of Australia notices the animals are "normal", pre-apocalypse
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>>119016669
>>119016767

And before you ask for sauce.
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>>119016902
I think cyber ghost has a straya VPN on its free version
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>>119016902
Just wait. There will be guides on shit like reddit right before the game comes out.
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>>119016669
Amazon almost never does that my gf has gotten games off it before and has never gotten a code early. Sometimes they ship games early, but that's pretty rare. I only know one person who's gotten a game a few days early from them.
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>>119016767
>>119016935
Well maybe it will come early. I've had cases where amazon gets me something a day early before, and I did get the 2day (release day) shipping with a prime trial.
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>>119016938

Neato, that ought to do nicely.

>>119016963

Yeah there's guides already if you look around, for other popular games - I rarely need to use proxies tho so I don't really know how well the free ones work.
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>>119015505
Seriously though i'm level 6 and they have hunting shotguns, multiplas rifles and reinforced combat armor
And killing them gives me good karma
All i did was turn a bomb off fucking hell
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>>119016912
Turn all subtitles on.
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>>119017187
give yourself bad karma with console till you are netrual again then
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>>119017187
Yeah, they're a bitch to deal with the first time you're unprepared just because the armor means you need frag grenades or AP ammo to kill them.
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>>119013378
hey guys. decided to do one last playthrough of new vegas before fallout 4 drops. anyone have any fun and unique playthrough ideas, preferably including some visual mods? i have a good pc that can likely handle any mods thrown at it
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>>119017187
If you know they're going to spawn when you fast travel / walk out of the metro, you can cheat a little.

-walk from a nearby place
>drop mines all over the spawn point
-walk into the metro, walk back out
>the thump of mines going off under their feet
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>>119016912
You're not missing much.
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>tfw in less than a month we'll all be playing FO4, comfy and happy as we have fun with our robot/dog/plucky journalist/militant black pal
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>>119017390
>Stop you
Yeah, that's the first one I noticed.
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>>119017347
You,Your friendly WWII german weapons and one last genocide!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_YkPiWYRw
make it a House or a Legion playtrough
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>>119017473
Cadsworth/whatever its name, is kind of silly. Dogmeat and Preston... can't wait for a CHA-based mod to have both companions as Bro Team.
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>>119017347

Play as a diabetic

-Can't drink Soda
-Can't eat fancy lads
-hardcore mode
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>>119017635

Honestly, I hope Codsworth is only there to carry your stuff, prepare food for you, and make witty retorts and observations. I don't want him to fight.
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>>119017267
>>119017294
>>119017379
I really just want to get rid of them for good
Because hiring assassins to kill someone for being "too good" is super dumb
Google gives me nothing though
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>>119017649
>-hardcore mode

But there's no qt little girls in NV.
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>>119015475
>implying it won't be your spouse
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Agility

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_okO2tLN0
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>>119017649
There's no hardcore mode in FO4.
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>>119017473
Meanwhile, in reality...
>newfags fresh off the rest of the internet slowly creep in
>bethesdrone and obshitian shitposting war reaches a fever pitch
>95% of posters are avatarfags or waifufags liveblogging their playthrough or arguing which female companion is best girl
>retard thirdworlders and poorfags spamming TORRENT? WHERE'S TORRENT? TORRENT LINK?
>one guy futilely trying to hold normal discussion
>Buffscale will be posting, and the rest of the /tesg/ cancer will follow

Repent, the end is nigh...
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I would love functional light switches like in the AGI video

>a quest leads you into an ambush by the BoS/Institute/Enclave/whatever in some underground facility
>they all have NV goggles
>you don't
>yfw they turn off the lights
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>>119017758
It's clumsy, but: open the command console, click on each them, and use the disable command. I don't know the specifics, look it up.
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>>119017856

He's looking for suggestions for one last NV playthrough.

Thanks for your input, though.
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>>119017810
Join us in the future anon, it's fine. Russians and Americans haven't started WW3 yet.
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>>119017910
You do know how to filter content in 4chanX, right.
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>>119017910

Notice that nowhere in my post did I mention being anywhere near this wretched place.

I'm not touching this board with a 10 foot pole when FO4 comes out.
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>>119017910
You can make your own reality, anon. Stay away from /fog/ on release day.
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>>119017635
you can already have one non-human and one human companion; I believe there's a perk to gain another human
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>>119017913
>"...and if they find the body?"
>"Body? What body?"
>[laughter intensifies]
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>>119017913
I think they implied that, or atleast some enemys prefer the dark like molerats
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>>119017913
Seems like it's implying that enemies can sneak up on you too, making it a severe detriment to people with low PER.

Bethesda isn't that competent, though.
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>>119017920
But my imershun
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>>119018136
But they clearly spring out of the ground during the daytime in the video footage we've seen?
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>>119016763
If there's a NZ VPN you could get it like 3 hours before Australia even.
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>>119017910
Hello friend! We like to make the 4chan community a welcome one, we understand that being new and wanting to have discussion is hard, so us here at /fog/ have made a simple list of how to help you!
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>>119018224
In these games, the worst breakers of immersion are all the bugs, flaws, and glitches.

Bethesda Softworks really is the deadliest enemy in FO3 and 4.
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>>119017473
Is there any info on the other eight companions we're supposed to have?
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>>119018759

Hoping for an evil fucker BoS companion.
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>>119018583
I'm new here, why do people hate Buffscale?
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>>119018759
Seems like there's a Mutie companion, probably a ghoul, and only the humans are romanceable. That's all we've got so far.
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>>119019034

They just hate fun, is all.
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>>119019080
>intelligent, reasonable Super Mutant
A not-Marcus would be glorious.
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>>119019215
We had Fawkes in FO3. I just wish there were more chill Muties around in the game world in general.
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>>119018759

I hope being a member of the institute gets you a snarky android slave
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>>119019034
Because muh tripfags


just as long as he isn't shitposting he's welcome
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>>119019281
Fawkes was all right, just on the dumb side. Someone smarter would be better. My personal wish is a peaceable one who fights reluctantly.
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>>119019362
I hope joining the railroad gets us a jewish companion who acts as if we're the companion.
"Yes, good goy. Free those innocent androids, and be sure to mix genes with them"
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>>119019034
>why do people hate those attentionwhores that want to be identifiable in an otherwise perfectly anonymous community?
Who knows?
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If i buy Fallout 4 now, is it preload?
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>>119015887
I've played the demo yesterday and it looks pretty cool. I think it's time to part with some 25 youros
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>>119019492

Alright Anon, settle down.
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>pre-release Fo4 specs thread
>Walpknut comes in just to complain about Bethesda
>Tell him to stop with the off-topic disdain, post my own specs and say I think I'm ready for 4

>shadowbanned

And in all of my posts I tried to remain fair and neutral and not suck Bethesda cock. I even had a post with points from Tagaziel on why the community's hive minded toxicity kept it from becoming the hub of all Fallout activity.

Truly. Fallout fans are civil and equitable. Enough to delete my account.

Why did I expect any different.
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>>119020131
>Using the word toxic
You deserved the ban tbh fam
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>>119020131
go back to /r/fallout
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>>119020206

>reddit tier word deserve ban :^)

I don't give a shit about your "le reddit" memeshit. I got my point across.

I didn't want to have anything to do with this Obsidian v Bethesda nonsense. I just want to talk about all the games. I guess even that is too far.
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>>119019662
No, you cant preload it yet.

they usually dont do preload till a day or two before relase.
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>>119014643
why has nobody shopped steam sale Gaben or Todd Howard into that mushroom cloud yet.
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>>119020206

>"Toxic" is a reddit word

Do you actually think about your words before you speak, or are you just genuinely that stupid.
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>>119019775
>tfw retaliating on anti-Beth codexqueer shitposters by pirating their game
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>>119020602
>>119020419
It's not a Reddit word, it's an SJW word.
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>>119019492
>mix genes
>with androids
You what now
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>>119019362
*That you can fuck
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>>119020786
>
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>>119020131
>forum drama
Why are you blogging such things? Do you want a hug or something? For free blowjobs head to reddit. And stay there faggot!
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>>119020786

No. It's a "This shit is vile and will kill you" word
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>>119020870
That you can equip with a variety of flashlight inserts
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>>119020870
If there's not a harkness type qt female android I can stick my dick in I'm not getting this game.
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>>119020665
download it 10 times to hurt them even more!
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Past few weeks of threads
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Why is there so little info and game play of fallout 4 when its out in 26 days. its just weird. after the luck video will they do some game play finally?
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>>119021173

I only report shit if it's blatantly off-topic or against the war (like that severed thumb photo)

Everyone on 4chan has a right to their opinion. It's what separates us from Tumblr and Reddit.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
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>>119021276
They already said they want to keep the game as mysterious as possible.

the whole point of the big E3 hing was so they DIDNT have to do like 15 different gameplay trailers and shit, since making those takes time away from working on the game.
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>>119020419
>I just want to talk about games
>Wah, I went to NMA and they were mean to me
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>>119021173

Snitches get stitches and end up in ditches, you bitch.
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>>119021346
I'm ok with this, getting pretty sick of game trailers just showing everything. Looking at you Phantom pain.
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>>119021425
yeah well how about I suck your dick you little faggot?
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>>119021532

Wow that'd be great, anon. Where do you wanna meet up?
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>>119019775
Yeah, for 25€ it's practically a gift. Hardcore RPGs are endangered species nowadays, and considering how AoD is built around replayability it's well spent money anyway.
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>>119021276
actual details of how the game really is might ruin the hype
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>>119021607
give me a time and place homo
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>>119021337
Having an opinion and expressing it is a right, but talking about shit that has nothing to do with the topic of the thread is shitposting and has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
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>>119021745

17th of November, 6 PM at the peak of Gibraltar.
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>>119014465
>>119014263
you are not me please stop funposting and lie down
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What's daily life like for a legionnaire in Legion territory? I imagine it's something like pic related, since nobody starts shit with the Legion in their land so I imagine they spend 90% acting as pest control and 10% beating slaves.
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>>119022302
Wake up
Get ass pounded
Go to lunch
Get ass pounded
Raid some village
Get ass pounded for reward
Prep for dinner
Get ass pounded
Go to bed
While getting ass pounded
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>>119015887
>>119019775
>>119021635
go away plant
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>>119016460
>mfw someone will use tgm and movetoqt on the main quest to finish the game in an hour and then spoil everything for americlaps before they even get to play it
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>>119022651

>Going anywhere near a source of spoilers.

Until I play the game to a satisfying extent, I am avoiding-

4chan
Tumblr
Reddit
Certain friends on Facebook
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>>119022651
>implying some clueless bookstore won't break the street date on the strategy guide
Even better, some third-world vidya store will release the game itself early. Happens often the middle east apparently.
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>>119022651

>Playing Fallout for the main story

kek
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>>119022651
>MFW nearby game store always gets shit a week or 2 early
Pretty sure Skyrim had spoilers a month before
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do you guys think that the quests will get better? Considering Skyrim, it's mainly "go here, get that, kill that, go back". Even Oblivion has better quests
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Do the console versions need online unlocking?
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>>119017856
Where's the confirmation of that?
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just preordered box version for 48$ and im waiting
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>>119022943

Okay, you've been posting this sort of thing in a lot of threads, and I really don't think you understand the importance of being unspoiled to a story.

For one, all tension is removed from the game. Will this character betray me? Will this character die? These questions are on the mind of someone playing the game for the first time. Not only that, but mystery is half the fun of playing a new game of ANY genre, but particularly in an open world game centered on exploration.

But why the fuck am I explaining logic to an obvious troll.
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>>119023167
The same place where they confirmed there weren't traits at character creation.
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>>119023094
"We're going to attack the institute, and we need your help. Here, go into this abandoned factory and find a key, watch out for feral ghouls."

"I lost my daughter, I think she's in that old warehouse full of feral ghouls."

"Hey buddy, our town is overrun with feral ghouls. Mind helpin us out?"

"We need a water chip. Go get one from the nearby vault. By the way, it's full of feral ghouls."

My one true worry after Skyrim.
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>>119013981
>buy game
>look into this perk
>no description
>decide to take it
>no immediate difference
>walk to next town
>go to bar
>weird looking guy sitting in the corner
>go to talk to him
>right when i press A to talk, he dissapears, fucking glitchy Bethesda game
>move on
>going to kill a bunch of raiders
>fire one shot at them
>they're gone
>fallout is always glitchy
>suddenly i am stopped, its the man from the tavern
>'Hey friend, I've heard of a cave not too far from here where there is a whole bunch of Loot stored up' He points towards a mountain
>Look up at mountain, mark it on my map
>'Hey thanks for the tip man-'
>turn around, guy is disappeared
>weird
>go to mountain, cave is full of radscorpions
>getting deeper and deeper, radscorpion poison is getting harder to handle
>suddenly rushed by like 15 gouls, all hitting me and attacking, i am shooting wildly into them
>my vision blurs and they are all gone
>freaking out now, i turn off the game
>go down to my kitchen
>theres a man sitting in one of my chairs
>"Hey friend I've heard about a cave, not too far from here where there is a whole bunch of loot stored up."
>How did you get in my house?
>he disappears, and i feel an urge to walk to the nearby mountains

Insanity: The Perk, not even once.
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>>119022651
>drop off grid day before release
>play game through one time
>check archive site to read drama/spoilers/funposting that happened in days immediately after release
>tfw having my cake and eating it too
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>>119023187

>But why the fuck am I explaining logic to an obvious troll.

Because your autism think /vg/ is one person, its pretty sad tbh.
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>>119023382
Archive is ded.
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>>119023187
>Bethesda
>Story
>Tension
Seriously wat. Bethesda makes big open rambling power fantasies where the story only really exists to lead you to set pieces and give you the barest excuse to kill things. Lots of people never even complete the main quest because Beth can't write well enough to make anyone give a fuck.
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>>119022962
>>119022858
>game
you mean the code you can use to download the game from steam once it's released
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>>119019080
>only the humans are romanceable.
>tfw no first gen super mutant BF to cuddle with
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>>119020131
>double-checked if everything is good in my Vault in lunch time
>as the Vault was in top-notch condition I calmly closed the app
>tfw only found out an hour ago that I only wanted to but didn't do it

All resources were drained to 0%, pile of bodies in the dark rooms everywhere, 10% "happiness" amongst the handful survivors. Everybody (even the revived ones) had ~45% radiation sickness and I only had a RadAway for every fourth, while their condition has continuously worsened because the lack of water.

Took an hour to get things back to normal but I made it without losing anyone. Had 2 Lunchboxes that I used up with hopes for extra resources - of course this time there were nothing like that in them. My luck as usual. Anyway, despite mobile games are not my cup of tea at all, I find Shelter surprisingly entertaining.
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>>119023919
>what are consoles
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>>119024142
A miserable little pile of limitations
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So... since Dr. Li left for the Commonwealth at the and of FO3, do you think she will be a major character again? Minor? Only mentioned in passing?
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>>119023339
fuck it, I'm down
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>>119024142
don't they require you to be online at all times? so they could prevent you from playing it until release? thought there was a pretty big shitstorm about this kind of stuff
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>>119019281
>We had Fawkes in FO3.
I never got Fawkes as a companion. Too evil rampaging across the wastes after my dad got me kicked out of my vault. The only reason I spared the wasteland was because of that pacifist super mutant who gave me his old clothes or whatever for nothing in return. I executed three dog outright for requesting my help before he would tell me where my father was and blew up megaton because the barkeep who demanded 300 caps to know where my father was. The only thing that got me to reel in my brutality was someone who actually showed my character kindness. Gave me all he had just because, I didn't ask, and he didn't ask me to do some asinine quest to get his shitty stuff, he just walked up to me and gave me shit.

As for my father I intended to shoot him in the head when I found him but by the time I found him I was out of ammo so I beat him into unconsciousness with a baseball bat.
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>>119024237
The only reason she 'left for the Commonwealth' is because her voice actor didn't want to come back for Broken Steel.
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>>119023330
>tfw this guy gets it

Welcome in world of every generic RPG, where you're the middle of the Universe and nothing can be done without your involvement.
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>>119024310
People were playing MGSV before release on the PS4 and Xbone versions. And no, they don't require you to be online all the time.
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>>119022784
why would you go on reddit bro?
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Anyone else wish bethesda would start involving time in shit. Like if you dont do a sidequest after like a month ingame it resolves itself.
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>>119024464
>Fallout New Vegas
>bring this thing to that place/guy
>I'd do it myself/I'd order someone of my organization to do it but I want to hire you because of reasons
It's not much different, is it?
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>>119023720
>realize that archive is dead
>activate plan B
>wait until /fog/ threads get full
>open /fog/ thread, avoiding description and picture
>save as webpage
>review them later
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>>119024690

Eh, good place to find interviews/official news sources.
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>>119022572
I would join the legiun if it was like that
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>>119024716
Time windows to do certain quests? No. I don't think so.
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>>119023873
you know most normies think FO3 and Skyrim had good stories
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>>119024716
that would be the first thing modded out partly because it'd be bugged all the god damned time. the quest triggers in skyrim were hinky enough as it is.
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>>119024918
FO3 and/or Skyrim were most normies first RPG. They just don't know any better and should be pitied.
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>>119025024
FO3 was my first wrpg (was a consoleboy for the longest time) and I thought it was good because I didn't have anything to compare it to. And didn't read too much either.
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>>119024718
For me it's FNV > FO3 all day everyday, but I never said that FNV wasn't like that. It's more the plague of the genre itself, at least with big budget titles. Can you tell me one (or even better, a few) titles where Special Snowflake Syndrome hasn't infected the protagonist from the get go?
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>>119025205
see
>>119015887

Darklands also qualifies.
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Looking at the Agility for SPECIAL that was released today, there didn't seem to be much that was unexpected, but during the ends when they mention faster reloading as a perk you can see he's loading his revolver one bullet at a time.

Does this mean that Bethesda will be taking their cue from Obsidian and adding revolvers with a more old-fashioned method of reloading, with the potential to upgrade to a speed loader as one of the weapon mods for those sorts of guns?
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>>119025205
Honestly I was kinda baiting, because New Vegas always make you feel like a courier, it's not really a special snowflake syndrome, because you're not the hero, but rather the right man at the right time in the right place.
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>>119015475
I'm so proud of you.
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>>119026003
Not even him, but NV constantly pushes a special snowflake shit all over the place.

Every factions worships your cock for totally tivial reasons, and each of them constant point out how ONLY YOU!!!!!! can help them win the war.
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>>119013981
Garfield was never there...
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>>119026214
yeah, it starts out pretty well, you're just a nobody courier pursuing his private vendetta against a guy who was a dick. And then it turns all herp-a-derp.
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No matter if this is called "b8" or "shitposting" this is my 100% opinion on the 3 vs NV debate.
>3 had better atmosphere hands down, while outside of Point Lookout, NV had the better dlc
>3 had pretty shit balancing, by level 20 onwards you were effectively godmode
>I love Traits, hope they stay in
>There was no logical reason for the Courier to chase Bennie
>The links that NV had to 1/2 was a huge boon, and i wish they tried to stick to canon
>Mothership Zeta was a mistake
>Vaults all being meme tests was a mistake
>Out of the 2 i enjoy 3 much more than NV because the story, as a complete package, feels like a story rather than a "This happened to you, do whatever now i guss"
Story, 3 > NV
Gameplay, NV >>> 3

I really hope F4 is a mixture of the two good parts of the previous titles, but i doubt it
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>>119026214
I gotta agree with this, the only factions that actually make sense are House (since Securitrons can only do so much and by dealing with Benny you prove both your competence and apparent loyalty) and Independent Vegas. Caesar could make sense but only really if you have the chip to begin with. NCR and Legion shouldn't give a fuck unless you have a very high reputation. I am sure the NCR would care if a guy single handedly decapitated the leadership of the Fiends and secured camp Forlorn Hope and maybe say "hey wanna try and help us with the kings."
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>>119025767
In the crafting video we see a menu for magazine mods, like standard, drum, quick eject.

Maybe you can have for example a 10 round revolver mag, or a 10 round quick eject speed loader which is strictly superior. But, the speed loader is a level 3 mod, requiring perk investment.
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>>119026741
ok
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>>119026741
>>There was no logical reason for the Courier to chase Bennie
Revenge or duty. If some guy shot me twice in the head I would want to see him dead. Alternatively the courier is just really fucking dedicated to his job. Not rain nor sleet nor snow nor two bullets to the head will stop the mojave express. The mojave express only sees the last of those ever anyway.
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So will Stealth Melee actually be Viable without mods this time around?

>>119026741
>Story 3
>Gameplay NV

what
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>>119026912
>So will Stealth Melee actually be Viable without mods this time around?

Fat chance.
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>>119026741

>rational stance
>Effectively explaining arguments
>Not accusing anyone who disagrees with you of being a faggot

See /fog/? It IS possible do have civil discourse in these threads!
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>>119026912
How is the webm smaller than the gif. >>119016534

Can a techfag explain?

plz no bully
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>>119026741

3's plot was total trash because "nuke the brotherhood" wasn't an option until the very end of the postgame DLC

3 had a good "desolate shithole wasteland" theme going on but it went too far and had no tolerable surface societies
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>>119026741
>>Vaults all being meme tests was a mistake

Are you Tim Cain?
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>>119026741
are we having a
>things that F3 did better than NV
?
I think I have one
>slavers
being able to join them and actually be an evil enslaving dick was a nice change of pace from the usual goody-twoshoes railroading.
That's pretty much the only thing I can think of though.
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>>119026898
Fair enough, i felt that there wasn't enough to push you to chase him rather than fuck about/
>>119026912
NV had a much more balanced and varied playstyles, as well as much more RPG features.
3 had a plot like it felt you were isolated and trying to get to your Dad while helping along the way.

>>119027086
I guess it was lack of ambition, just incase it flopped - that or engine limits

>>119027160
No i feel that all of them being tests is stupid, some of them should have been legit bunkers, with the occasional deadly one

>>119027261
Nah i was just posting my thoughts on the 3vNV debate
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>>119027261
The Slavers in NV were the legion and you could join them though? Or do you mean having them as a discrete group that had no attachment really to the MQ?
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>>119027008
Th-thanks
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>>119027378
Yeah, but (IMO) joining the Legion was more like evil for the sake of evilness kick the puppy thing than pragmatical evil. At least with how little of the legion actually made it into the game. And I don't think you could actually enslave people?
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>>119026003
Precisely this is why I didn't take your post as a bait at all. Because it's true that you're not a hero (and I loved the feeling), but personally I felt little initiative to pursue the MQ. Of course I did, but it was a rational act rather then driven by personal revenge. I felt this connection was weaker and less personal than the one with your father in FO3.

>>119025468
Thanks for the recommendations, I knew Age of Decadence but not Darklands. There's another one though that came to my mind in the meantime, although it might be not the perfect example of traditional RPG: Mount & Blade. The whole game is about you being a nobody whose fortune is in his own hands.
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>tfw a Super Mutant will never go blind due to an long untreated STD like gonorrhea
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SAVAGE DEATHCLAW CONFIRMED
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>>119028237
FALLOUT 4 WAS DEVELOPED FOR VITA
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY CONFIRMED
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>>119028237
If there are savage deathclaws does this also confirm cultured, domestic deathclaws you can compare them to?
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>>119028384
its remote play you dinga linga ming mong
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>>119028508
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>>119028237
Deathclaw
Deathclaw Veteran
Deathclaw Scum
Scarred Deathclaw
Savage Deathclaw
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>>119028237

Source of the image?
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>>119028742
@Bethesdastudios on twitter
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>>119028706

Legendary Deathclaw Death Overlord
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>>119028237

Cool... I guess.

What the heck is remote play?
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>>119026741

I'll be honest, I have enjoyed NV much more than 3 just because of how zany it is generally, making the srs moments hitting harder.

>ghoul cult wanting to launch themselves into space
you can make them crash even though they did nothing wrong
>collecting star bottle caps for a cowboy automaton
people murder each other because of this
>the bad guys wear roman armor made with football equipment
they also torture, rape and enslave innocents
>Mr Fantastic is a bumbling retard
he's also in charge of an experimental superweapon
>The Boomers
basically /pol/

and there's the DLC

>tribals you don't give two shits about fighting each others and believe in a "god in a cave"
the "god in the cave" has a cool and touching story
>Dead Money
this one isn't zany, it's just bleak but well done
>le epic mad scientist funny memesters
they have been performing atrocities on living beings for centuries
>muh bear muh bull rambling masked big guy
he can nuke the whole west back to the stone age

I think I would love NV more even if it had worse gameplay.
>tfw I want to play it one last time but I know it so well it would bore me in a few hours
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>>119027796

Only the Pitt did slavery well. All base game neg karma felt like kick the puppy evil. Excluding all the times you get negative karma for killing horrible people, like the "vampires." Just as bad as losing karma for stealing from the Powder faggots in NV.

Even with all the cut content they still did a half decent job of portraying the Legion as (extremely) harsh stability, something the NCR and House can't provide. They're not so bad if you actually listen to Caesar and Vulpes.
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>>119028889
Exactly what it looks like. Use your vita as a ps4 controller and its screen instead of a tv.
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>>119027086
>3's plot was total trash because "nuke the brotherhood" wasn't an option until the very end of the postgame DLC
Neither Fallout 1/2 let you nuke the good guys either.
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>>119029251

But... why? Why wouldn't you just play on your TV?
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>>119029124
I really hope the Bright Followers corpses are strewn about the New England Wastes.
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>>119027351
>No i feel that all of them being tests is stupid, some of them should have been legit bunkers, with the occasional deadly one
You are aware that out of the 122 vault there WERE 17 that are actually just normal vaults that dont have some test?
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>>119029306
I dunno, maybe your little brother wants to watch TV or something. Or you want to play in a different room, not sure what the range is.
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>>119029284
>Neither Fallout 1/2 let you nuke the good guys either.

>this guy never joined the Unity.

Get right with the Master, anon.
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>>119029516
>non-canon joke ending that was never meant to be taken seriously ala the "join Elijah" ending for DM
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>>119029516
How do you even open a vault door which is supposed to resist a nuclear blast?
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>>119029802
It has happened multiple times in the lore. Enclave has breached vaults, master's army, etc.

>>119029625
Was the conversation about canonicity or things you could do in the game?
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>>119029306
It's a gimmick. The same gimmick Nvidia tried to use to push its Nvidia Shield, which obviously turned out to be a complete failure. Then Nintendo came, giving the possibility to use the tablet/controller's screen of the Wii U to play while you're sitting on the toilet, but the range was so shit that they didn't even publicised it that much. Sony now is hoping to boost the sales of the Vita through that same unsuccessful gimmick.
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>>119029910
>Was the conversation about canonicity or things you could do in the game?
Do the thing you do in the game matter if they have absolutely no chance of being canon?

I mean, seeing the TARDIS from doctor who is cool and all, but it doesn't mean shit, nor would I use it as an example of shit games allowed you do actually DO when comparing them to future games.
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>>119028237
>>119028706
Will there be the haired deathclaw? or the smart one you think?
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>>119030037
That's fine if you want to take that stance, but by that metric you're also invalidating a ton of NV and FO3 as stuff like the Yes Man ending and putting the FEV in the purifier have zero chance of being canon either. I'm always in favor of more choices in the game I'm playing rather than less. If the dev wants to declare a certain canon for their sequels, I'm ok with that as it doesn't really detract from my experience with the game at the time I'm playing it.
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Could someone help me?
I installed skyrim and tried to use ENB (Project ENB)
In the main menu, everything is alright but as soon as I really get ingame, everything goes shit.
I'm not talking about small graphic glitches, most of the screen is black and there is some weird LSD effect going on.
The hud is normal (besides the menus).
Anyone know how to fix this?
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>>119030743
Floatpointrenderer=1
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>>119029306
Because both companies would like you to believe that their consoles are not only meant for gaming but as a media centre for your home. Too bad any random HTPC could piss them in half when it comes to this shit, especially if you value customization. So in nutshell, it's a failure.

In their idealistic idea you could play games through your handheld (a Vita, in this case) while your parents / SO / kids are watching the TV, even is you're upstairs in your bedroom while they're chilling down in the living room. In reality, your best bet is still a good PC and a long HDMI cable.
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>>119029425
Still awful
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>>119030817
In file?
In skyrimprefs.ini there only is
bFloatPointRenderTarget=1
Which, as you can see, is set to 1
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>>119029425
That's still really stupid. Who are they going to have check out these experiment results?
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>>119022784
>reddit
>tumblr

I used to think h4lfchan being cucks was just a meme.
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>>119028663
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Kiss Nora
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>>119026741
>There was no logical reason for the Courier to chase Bennie
I kind of like that because it freed me to do other things. In 3 you have every reason to discard what you are doing to chase after your father, and this makes going exploring and doing side quests not fit well.
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>>119027069
A .webm is a stream of algorithmically compressed images whereas a gif is a sequence of bitmaps with encoded times for each frame to display and thus carries far more information.
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>Todd has said no vehicles beyond the vertibird.

:( does that mean I won't get my own Raketa to tool around Boston in? Give my sweet Nora a duckboat tour?
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>>119031772
All of the Vault experiments were monitored by poseido-net, and all the data was sent back to The Encalve's oil rig automatically.
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>>119032292
I had the opposite reaction, no inital push meant that i had no motivation to do anything.

At least with f3 i RP'ed it that the LW was trying to get to his Dad asap, but kept getting distracted due to his naive upbringing
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>>119031974

There's good art and shit on Tumblr. But yeah, it's fucking bonkers there.
>>
is there any advantage to preordering?
>>
I just finished Dead Money and holy shit was it good. It felt like survival horror. Having to scrounge for supplies and interact with the environment like that added a lot of depth.

And it was had easily the most interesting characters and story I've seen in FNV, all expansions included, maybe except for Ulysses in LR.

Only retarded thing about it was the bomb collars. But it really puts the other FNV DLC to shame.
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>>119031974
>not going to tumblr for sfm porn
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>>119033141
Pre-ordering the physical version, it comes with a physical perk chart.
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>>119033425
>it really puts the other FNV DLC to shame.

Which is why it was smart to release it first. Built up false hope that the others would be as good.
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>>119033746
>Admitting you look at SFM porn.
>going t tumblr for SFM porn when all the actual good SFM porn cant be put on tumblr because of rules.
>Not using one of the several rule 34 sites to find the good SFM porn.

You fucked up in so many ways in one post/
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>>119034114

Tumblr has fuckin great SFM porn

Also
>Tumblr
>Rules

That place is just as fucking lawless as 4chan
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>>119034114
you have literally no idea what you're talking about, tumblr is pretty much the source. of course it's not posted on there but you get all links on there and you don't have to wait for some random faggot to upload it to r34 or other shit sites.
>hurr durr tumblr is so gay xD
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>>119033425
I really wanted to like it, the idea is good, but the execution, for me at least, was lacking.
The city is tiny, the interesting characters you barely talk to, the supposed challenge of that mist or speakers is more of an annoyance - quickload until you do it right. Casino was pretty small too, the villain never really felt menacing, and while the ending never meant to be satisfactory it wasn't exactly deep either.
There was too few of ... everything I guess?
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>>119034201
>Still admitting you look at SFM porn.
Fucking why?

Are you just THAT fucking pathetically attached to fucking fictional characters that you some 3 second poorly animated loop of them blowing someone?
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>>119027351
>Fair enough, i felt that there wasn't enough to push you to chase him rather than fuck about/
I felt the same about 3 honestly. At least New Vegas sent you on a straight path to your primary target. 3 sent you to a place next door, then to a place in the middle of the map, then to a corner, then to a place you already passed, and finally to the opposite corner of the map. Too much fucking walking.

Plus the tasks you needed to keep moving forward in New Vegas were pretty simple with the exception of come fly with me. Rescue the Deputy take like 5 minutes 20 if you want to kill every powder ganger like 40 if you decide to spend time getting new law in primm (if you do the latter two you are probably actually enjoying it since you don't need to do them). The Boulder City thing takes like 5 minutes of talking of 3 minutes of shooting, and after boulder city it is just a walk to Vegas. Come fly with me can at least be skipped by taking a single perk or taking information from a computer.

Even following the quest path going from Goodsprings to Vegas take far less time than you spend just walking in fallout 3 to find your dad.
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>>119028237

>those horns
>one pointed upwards, one broken in half?

alternate models makes my dick diamond
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>>119029802
Shaped charge. A tank can survive a nuclear blast with its external hull and turret intact. Can still punch through with a large enough shaped charge.
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>>119034915

>Looking down on people who look at porn of fictional characters

Where do you think you are.

No I'm not fucking attached. I just like to fucking beat off, you cunt
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>>119034915
get the fuck out normie
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>>119036578
Na man, even I look at porn of fictional characters, I just prefer pron of fictional characters that doesn't suck.

SFM is some of the most consistently low quality r34 on the internet.

99.99% of it is
-Skyrim sexlab tier animations
-Full of clipping
-Shit not lined up correctly
-Poor looping
-People who don't understand the importance of lighting to make shit look good
-There's like 3 body models between all SFM characters, so most of them don't even look remotely proportioned to what they do in the games, and are just headswaps.
-Many body model textures are hilariously low res, like, vanilla skyrim tier resolution textures
-Because its SOURCE engine joints are always hilariously fucked up if you bend them outside the VERY narrow range of arm/leg movements used in Valve games.
-The shortness of most animations makes them monotonously boring
-Those that go on for longer period of time always have a significant drop in quality
-Heaven forbid the put found SOUNDS in the animation, because then you are subject to some poorly adjusted audio levels, and the sound become even more monotonous and hard to listen to then the animations are themselves normally.
-VA work sounds like shit, period.


Its like, out of all form of porn, SFM manages to be the consistently worst.

I would rather just look at a still drawn image that actually looks like the character, or a flash animation done by someone like Zone, where the characters actually LOOK LIKE THE CHARACTER, and it done somewhat well.

The only group that does SFM even remotely well on a semi-constant basis is StudioFoW, and even they blow ass about it with poor VA work, and bad animations.

Their only saving grace is that they use the same fucking shaky cam style of hentai like Taimanin Asagi, where its moving around so much you can see how bad the animations are, because you often cant see shit at all.

Its like, every other form of hentai is better on a more constant basis, so why bother?
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>>119038142
not SFM but still in the same vein

ellowas had some high quality WoW shit
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>>119038260
Ellowas wasn't SFM, he was like Blender or Maya or some shit.
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>>119028237
Are Deathclaws from DOOM now?
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>>119038484
nvm, I'm retarded.

I first read that as "not all SFM is in the same vein."
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>>119034114
>all the actual good SFM porn cant be put on tumblr because of rules.
only porn rules on tumblr is no cp which is the same for everywhere
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So /Fog/ since we're on our last special video I need to knoe.

What's your HONEST opinion on the new skill system?
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>>119040563
I like it, its the reverse solution Skyrim used to fix TES's problem, which happened to be the reervse problem Fallout had.

Its fitting
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>>119040563
Looks like it has potential. Everything depends on how many actually unique, fun and useful perks are there.
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>>119026741
I agree with you on everything except for
>Mothership Zeta was a mistake
And
>Vaults all being meme tests was a mistake
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>yfw Obsidian made a Fallout game so good that people still debate for hours about which side would win even after the game is over and done with
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>>119040563
Pretty confident it will be better than Skyrim's and even if it's not, mods will always make it better. Not worried about it at all honestly.
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>>119019034

Given that you have done it before I know this is your post buffscale. This is why we hate you. You talk to yourself to get more attention. Which is no surprise, you fucking tripfag.
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>>119040563
The only thing I don't agree with is VANS. Seems like a waste and not really anything to do with Intelligence.
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>>119040791
>Implying that's anything to be proud of as people still debate Skyrim's Imperials vs Stormcloaks to this day.
>Implying that isn't just a stock standard fedora tipping false philosophical conundrum plot.
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>>119041057
It involves the programming of one's pipboy. It fits int rather well imo.
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>>119040563

There was nothing stopping them from doing creative perks while still having skill points and checks. They're adding Skyrim spells as perks. Mandatory Lockpick+Science builds will just be replaced by mandatory 4/4 PER/INT builds. The only difference is that +skill perks will be the ONLY way to get those bonuses now so they'll be coveted instead of hated.

I just hope there'll be a UI/mod for a final column of new perks that have mixed or no SPECIAL associations.
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>>119040563

We'll have to see how it actually works in game, but right now, I'm actually really excited for it. I feel like it will make every character unique (instead of the walking god you become at the end of every Fallout game). Also, I like the ranked perk system, allowing the player to balance in heavily specialized perks or taking a little bit of everything.

I was really nervous about the removal of skills at first, but this may be exactly what the series needs to feel fresh again.
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So, is it basically confirmed that the MC of 4 was in the army, and if he was, that's why he can wear power armor immediately?
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>>119041626
I personally just hope it cuts down on the number of "FALLOUT IS JUST TES WITH GUNS NOW!"

Given that Fallout is now an attribute based game, while TES is a skills based one.

they both have perks, but even then, the way perks work in each is very different.
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>>119041968
Until the next TES game
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>>119041850
No.

PA "training" was shit made up in Fallout 3 to prevent the player from being able to use some of the best armor in the game from game start, since you run into BoS failry easily.

IIRC, its even said in Fallout 3 that PA is supposed to be so easy to use even a child can do it, the need for complex training was just a gameplay fiat.

PA, in lore, was always just something you can put on and juts USE, training or not.
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>>119041850
Yes the husband is an army veteran.
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>>119041626
Funny thing is the only thing they removed related to skills are just skillpoints. They just made most of the skills from 3/nv into ranked perks.
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>>119042192
They both probably are vets.
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>>119042143
>PA "training" was shit made up in Fallout 3 to prevent the player from being able to use some of the best armor in the game from game start, since you run into BoS failry easily.
and than they ruined it by selling Operation Anchorage. Bravo Beth, bravo.
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>>119041065
>Faggot rebels
>The Empire

>Homosex Romans
>Corrupt Guberment
>Walt Disney
>You

hard choices here
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>>119042282
we don't know what Nora's deal is. It may be up to the player.
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>>119042413
The civil war is the best thing about skyrim imo
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>>119042447

She could have been a medic or engineer. Pretty sure they get basic training too. Or hell she could have served in combat. We genuinely have no idea what the pre-war military was like since Operation Anchorage is canonically bullshit.
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>>119042696
The only thing we do know from the leaked intro script is that Howard (if that is his real name) was a soldier at some point in the last 17 years and saw front-line combat.
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>>119042661
Okay I know that some of the questlines in base skyrim were bead, but the civil war was total shit.
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>>119042696
Something about how they fought on the moon

also there is concept art of guys in PA fighting on da moon
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>>119042903

Or was programmed to think that
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>>119042994
Could you tell me what's wrong with it?
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>>119043035
That's not just concept art. It's ingame art.
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The thing about Fallout 3 to me when i remember it is i think of the wasteland as having like 4 characters in it. Its you, dad, moira, and a gay dude in a tower in this huge great expansive map populated by scorpions mutants and nameless raiders.
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>>119042903
His name is likely Albert, given the default male PC has been named Albert in Fo3 and NV promo material.

We even see the name Albert used during the video with Todd talking about how the perk system works.

The SS also looks almost exactly like Albert Cole from Fallout 1 also.
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>>119043040
The PC is not a synthetic.
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>>119043093
The quest line itself was rather uninteresting to play through and the stormcloaks are blatantly the wrong option f
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>>119043254

You seem awful sure of that for a game that hasn't been released yet
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>>119043503
What if he's Todd?
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>>119043334
>the stormcloaks are blatantly the wrong option
No they're not.
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>>119043803

Then he's lying, and the Player character IS a synth.
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>>119043803
Todd Howard, Fallout 4’s game director, added, “I’ll be playing the game and run into something and be like, ‘Who built this? What is this? It’s so big!’”

must click "I'm not a robot" to post
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>yfw Man who sold the world plays when you wake up 200 years later
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>>119044051
Todd doesn't even lie all that much tbh.
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>>119044267

I know, but that this point it's just the character
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>>119044039
Ulfric is a greedy asshole who wants nothing but power and is using a religious issue that wasn't that big of a deal to anyone with two braincells to rub together to instigate a rebellion that would only weaken all sides but the true enemy that is the Thalmor.
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>tfw first mod will be a support Helicopter like MGSV
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>>119044039
>No they're not.
Hell, even Ulfric said he fucked up in Sovngarde. Stop being retarded. CW questline was boring and had no subtlety or nuance to it and the decisions made within. The only impact it has on Skyrim is whether certain forts have blue or red flags.

Fuck me. I was hyped for that shit. Todd talking about swords breaking so you need to use H2H or being a certain race or having high bounty meant you had to enter a hold through the sewer system. What a load of shit.
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>>119045107
I'm gonna need some citation there, jimbob.
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>>119045107
When did todd say this.

Also speaking og bountys you think fallout 4 will have them?
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>>119045107
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>>119045593
No, but it'll have BoS /Institute death squads.
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I'm aborting shaun
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>>119045593
Probably. They hit their stride on the radiant stuff and bounty hunting is the way to get good karma for being an assassin.
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I'm glad that it seems like Bethesda have fucking fixed their armor design after the fucking shitfest that was Skyrims armor designs

>Set game in coldest region of Tamriel
>Most armor sets are sleeveless wifebeaters, even the top tier heavy armor has openings everywhere.
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>>119045593
I don't know anout some stuff that guy said, like sneaking through the sewers, but Todd did promised an actual functional economy(you can evidence that it was partially done but never implemented), an actual complex civil war(there some unused partial complete scripts that indicated that), and there is also a incomplete weapon durability system, that worked in tiers, by what I have heard.
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>>119040563

It's more rigid than I've ever seen Beth get with an advancement system. Nobody can get good at lockpicking without being a minimum degree of perceptive, which is odd. Usually RPGs put stats as modifiers on skills, so that a character can grow through training independently from their intrinsic strengths and weakness.

It's not inherently bad. Much easier to plan builds around, so hopefully gameplay will require smart build design or else it'll all feel crufty. I'll still miss the discovery of finding new and unknown perks as I level up.

I wonder also if skill (or are they perk?) mags will allow you to access perks above your stat requirements.
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I really hope Bethesda at least added some more 50's rock like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHB3Rbz1OI this time around
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Please tell me a bunch of the game isn't just going to be filler radiant quests. Please. Please. PLEASE TODD.

I mean it's nice to have, but you don't make half the quests in the game radiant redoable bland quests.

I just want some interesting quests to be honest.
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>>119046296
*you can find evidence
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>>119046315
In all fairness, we haven't seen the exact lock picking mechanics demonstrated yet. Just there's a perk on the SPECIAL tree that looks an awful lot lick lock picking.
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>>119046449
>I hope they added more music
Music is the easiest thing to mod. CONELRAD for FNV is probably the most effective mod available: tons of immersion and fun with just a handful of songs.
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>>119046296

It's true, those assets do exist in the base .esm but were cut to make the 11.11.11 deadline. Oblivion also had a lot of planned features that were cut. Radiant AI worked fine, but wouldn't work too well on console hardware.

I think where these disappointments come from are that Todd gushes about the things on their drawing board and features they're playing with during development which, in the end, get hacked off.

FO4, thankfully, is basically done. So unless they've shown ancient builds of the game the things they showed and discussed should be part of it.
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>>119046514
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3169yj - standard hacking at 2:20, standard lockpicking at 2:52. Too potato to make out the text but I bet it says something about your ranks.
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>>119014465
I'm not shit-posting here, but is he wrong? You can't really classify Fallout as a straight up RPG any more. It's more a FPS/RPG Hybrid now that focuses more on the gameplay than the actual story; something which all FPSs do.

Fallout 1 through to Tactics are a completely different genre of game to what 3 and NV were. Whilst 3 tried to maintain a hold on the Fallout story, NW took a big old dump on it and decided to go the trigger happy shooter way. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing NV and 3, but not because they're Fallout games but rather because they're fun to spend a few hours playing with mods.

You play 1 and 2 for the story, to be immersed in the lore and to actually care about what's happening. You play 3 and NV because you want to go around shooting things in the Fallout universe.

I'm not agreeing with the guy completely as he's trying to pass his point across like an autistic child throwing his toys out the pram, but in a sense he's right that Betheseda are taking a shit all over the Fallout games. They're essentially doing what Ubisoft do with the AC games, use the name to sell a different game.
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>>119046812
>hack succesful
>"Sweet"
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>>119046852
Is FF7 an RPG? Is Witcher 3 an RPG? Deus Ex? Deus Ex: Human Revolution? Borderlands? Eye of the Beholder?

Are you shitposting? Are you funposting? Trolling? Baiting? Flaming?
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>>119046852
>Whilst 3 tried to maintain a hold on the Fallout story, NW took a big old dump on it and decided to go the trigger happy shooter way
This is a copypasta.
If not, it should be.
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>>119046852
Is this bait?
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>>119046852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_rvM6hubs8

ITT: Retards who don't even know what an RPG is.
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>>119047057
If FF7 a pure RPG? Yes. Is FF13 or any of the new games the same genre as FF7 even though they're both labelled as RPGs? No.

If you'd actually read my post I said that the new Fallouts are hybrids since you can't really call things like NV a RPG when the story is as plain as the paint in a white room.

If you can sit there and tell me that the story of 3/NV was as engaging as the story of 1/2 then it seems you're the shit poster here.

>>119047165
This isn't me saying 3 > NV or NV > 3. 3's story tried to stick to the general feel of a Falliout game. The world's a wasteland, a vault is involved, you need to save the vault or wasteland etc.. NV was literally Skyrim's choose the Stormcloaks or Empire story wise.

Once again, I'm not saying which is better (I preferred 3's story, but had more fun playing NV as it was newer and had more mods) but 3 felt like a transition from old school RPG Fallout to the new apocalyptic shooter.

>>119047296
Someone has a different opinion! Must be bait!
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>>119046957
Really hoping they put this on the channel tomorrow. They released the first half of it as the character creation post, and they can't have many more ways to recycle the trailer.

I guess they could put a spotlight on PA and vertibirds but they won't want to talk about where the verty comes from, so...
>>
>fallout 4
>can rebuild the world

welp i am going to build the fallout version of rapture.
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>>119041381
So do you like it?
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>>119048653
They literally stole the Wasteland Defence mod.
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>>119048825
House / base building in RPGs is suuuper old hat. They're both taking the next logical step.
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>>119048825
Yes but its now official.
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>>119048825
>bethesda doesn't add a popular feature
>this is bullshit! the modding community has to finish the game for them!

>bethesda adds a popular feature
>this is bullshit! they're just stealing mods!
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>>119048825
what'd you just fucking say? back on your knees where your belong
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>>119013620
LA and Baja (Mutated mexican plants and shit)
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>>119048825
Is that a bad thing?
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>>119049028
LA is a crater bruh.
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>>119048825
Yeah, at least Obsidian acknowledged they took from the mod community to add on to the game.
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>>119049173
What exactly did Obsidian take?
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>>119049028
We've got LA in that shitty Project Brazil mess, so Beth won't touch it.
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>>119049287
Hardcore mode
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>>119049287
weapon mods and iron sights are the most obvious
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>>119049123

Boneyard isn't, bruh.
>>
>Obshillians vs Besthesdrones
https://youtu.be/j6iOeC6nGs0?list=FL57PVctpHj9B5tXpFg628uA
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>>119049123
>>119049321
Really? well san diego, fuck I don't know.
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>>119049173
I don't recall Bethesda doing shit like passing off the ideas as their own. The inspirations are clear for anyone with half a brain they don't need to say what exactly came from the modders and what didn't. THey've been clear in the past that they do really look at what the mod community does.
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>>119044243
You know, for all the disappointment that TPP may have been though, apart from cut content, I was pretty pleased with it, all-in-all, I guarantee a good chunk of us will, at some point, probably sooner than later, have a Snake playthrough with Quiet companion mods
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>>119049434
I like them both.
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>>119049469
The guy who made Wasteland Defence applied to work with them, they refused but said they'd like to use his mod in 4. He refused, they used it anyway.

It's all on his mod page.
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>>119049627
>It's all on his mod page.
This fucking faggot....
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>>119049627
And the guy who made wasteland defense basically stole Wasteland settler and added turrets
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>>119049627
Because he came up with a totally original idea and they completely ripped code out of his mod and pasted it into 4, right?

C'mon, man. I can hear the butthurt flowing from here.
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>>119049627
Forgive me if I'm not inclined to believe him.

Plus it's not like they literally stole his work.
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>>119049372
Both of those have been incredibly common in many shooters for years. They would have still added them regardless of the modding community.
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Will there be hardcore mode in Fallout 4?
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>>119049627
You got a link?
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How fun will my build be?
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>>119050140
>It's on his mod page
Stop being a shitter.
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>>119050075
Yes
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>>119049940
It doesn't matter that they are common features. Iron sights and hardcore mode were options not available in 3 until someone made the Wanderer mod. Then surprise surprise they turn up in NV.

At least give the mod creators a nod or some money like other developers do.
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>>119050220
Forgot picture hurrdurr
How fun will my build be?

>>119050292
Cool
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>>119050263
>literally nothing about it on the mod page or the author's site
Full of shit.
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>>119050075
People keep saying no, but that doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, it was pretty popular in NV and there was a pretty popular Skyrim mod that added the same thing. If they really want to make little items more important (stated during the crafting/base building E3 thing, I think), why the hell would they take away the option to need to eat and drink. Do that and food is going to be heavier, less effective stimpacks.
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>>119050327
>give nod or money
For an unoriginal idea

Okay
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>>119050327
>At least give the mod creators a nod or some money like other developers do.

Dude, this isn't Minerva or DOTA you're talking about. They just copy pasted some cawadooty shit into the game.

I mean it's cool Obsidian likes to jerk off the mod community, but that's all it is.
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>>119050393

Gonna be shit. Have fun not lockpicking/hacking or crafting anything good.
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post builds
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>>119050393
>END 1
Have fun dying.
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>>119050701

Shit.
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>>119050767
>Being a shitter

>>119050632
STR will have some crafting
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>>119050767
>dying
>in a vanilla bethesda game post-oblivion
kek
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>>119050852

I did say "good". Armor crafting is nice, but having armor won't kill anyone. Melee weapons a shit.
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>>119050701
>3 END
>95 hit points
You better take Toughness.
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>>119050263
>ctrl+f Bethesda
>0 results

better link fagboi
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>>119050701
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>>119050941
>Low Endurance and high armor
I'm in
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>>119050881
>dying
>in ANY Bethesda game
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>>119050987
im not a srub, i'll be fine. besides you can level special every level
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>>119050881
Fallout 4 will be the hardest Bethesda game.
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>>119051170
> besides you can level special every level
Tell me sweet lies

>>119051052
Such an average build anon, you're allowed to have fun you know
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>>119051105

You're gonna love all the armor-piercing enemies, which'll no doubt be plentiful. :^)
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I can tell Dogmeat to fuck off, right? Can I shoot it if it keeps following me?
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>>119051220
Hardest to die in, maybe.
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>>119051170
>>119051170
That's going to take some time.
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>>119051052
plain as fuck
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>>119051254
I've always done average builds. Thought to be honest I really want to make one that has high INT for some sweet weapon mods.
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>>119051309

Yeah but it'll follow you anyway. It just works that way.
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>>119051398
Nope.

>>119051309
Yes.
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>>119050701

My minions (companion, robutts, turrets, militia, etc.) can fight for me.

For boss fights I'll pilot a suit of pimped out PA with ludicrous weaponry.
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Objectively the best build. You're welcome.
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>>119051220
>Fallout 4 will be the hardest Bethesda game.
What did he mean by this?
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>>119051693
Why does everyone lower there END to 1?

>>119051759
You're going to die if you have a low end.

>>119051739
Have fun not being able to use Automatic rifles.
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>>119051869
>needing HP
>in a Bethesda game
How?
>>
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>>119051869
>Have fun not being able to use Automatic rifles.

We already went through this. Commando is just a dmg% boost early on and not necessary. Plus you probably won't have access to proper assault rifles early anyway.
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>>119051869
>Why does everyone lower there END to 1?
If END is retroactive, it's going to be the worst stat in the game. The only perk in the tree you actually need is free.
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>>119051869
>Have fun not being able to use Automatic rifles.
Who needs those?
Single shot rifles and pistols are the best early on for ammo conservation, following that you move onto heavy weapons.
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>>119050327

Obsidian did give (unofficial) credit to FWE and other mods.
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>>119052019
perception is literally the most useless stat.

what are you guys doing
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>>119052161
b-but I want to be good at the shooting :(
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>>119051869
you get lifegiver at 4 end i think
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>>119052161
You probably need 4 in perception for lockpicking.
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>>119051739
>luck
>1

lmao @ ur lyfe
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>>119052305

Yep, and then +1 from bobblehead for demolition expert.
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>>119052161
You don't care about lockpicking, theft, pickpocketing, VATS accuracy or using explosives, including the Fat Man?
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Does building multiple med bays/science rooms in Fallout Shelter increase the total amount of stimpaks you can carry or just add multiple sources of stimpak production without raising the cap?
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>>119052481
i only care about lockpicking and investing into perc only makes it easier.
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>>119052481
Wouldn't that fat an be under big guns which is STR 5?
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>>119051254
>Tell me sweet lies
It's literally in their article about the new SPECIAL/PERK system.
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>>119052575
Is it a gun?
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>>119052161
>not wanting Awareness
>not wanting lockpick
>not wanting explosives (especially if explosive crafting is included in it)

Unless lockpick is shit like Skyrim, with bad perk ranks and the ability to pick anything without investing.

We don't even know what P7 is, and P9 and P10 could be OP as fuck depending on what the ranks do.
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>>119052441
>+1 from bobblehead
I remain unconvinced that the bobbleheads will increase specials.
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>>119052393

Would love to have Better Criticals, but that'll just have to wait until I can level-up enough to unlock it.

>>119052490

Yep, you can just build medbays for storage and leave them empty. Build an elevator shaft all the way down to the bottom and put it there with the rest of the unoccupied rooms, like item storage - monsters and fire can't spread via elevator.
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>>119052661

I remain convinced they will. That's why they shaved off 7 points from your initial selection.
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Does anyone else think you should have been able to keep Arcade as a party member by having a Confirmed Bachelor dialogue option?
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>>119043115
Really, you couldn't even dredge up the vampires, or the cute chick in the library?
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How can I motivate myself to reinstall my mods?

I had my laptop sent back to me after g ttign fixed by dell and they fucking reformatted the hard drive, amd now I Want to reinstall new vegas and the list of mods I had as well, except its going to take another 2 hours of drag dropping with readmes to read regarding patches and compatibility and fucking around with load orders again.

And im probably going to have to set my project nevada rebalance files and ahud as well.
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>>119052803
Specials are too easy to level up on their own
Bobbleheads should be unique
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>>119052660
>Unless lockpick is shit like Skyrim,
What was wrong with Skyrim lockpicking system.
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>>119053024

There's still a cost in terms of not being able to use those points on perks. And if you wanted all 10's, you'd be level 43 with zero perks, that doesn't sound easy at all to me.

There WILL be a soft cap in terms of maximum level most players can be reasonably expected to reach - you won't be unlocking all perks and perfect attributes with normal gameplay.
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>>119053126
Not him, but I assume he's referring to being able to pick any lock at any level.
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>>119053126
First off that the fucking picks broke if you breathed on them wrong. The perk tree was complete shit and made locks go from 0 to auto-unlock; training it took forever and there was really not much incentive to lockpick at all because nothing important was behind a lock, just loot.
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>>119053301
>And if you wanted all 10's
No one needs all 10s
Most people will only spend a few points to unlock the 1 or 2 other perks they want
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>>119053324
How is that a bad thing?
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>>119053126
It was a useless skill that inflated your level. You can pick any lock at any skill level and the skill perks were retarded. A key to any lock you picked, how amazing. Locks are easier to pick, incredible.

Lockpicking was objectively the worst skill and most poorly-designed mechanic in Skyrim.
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>>119052939

Just keep the modlist concise and small, anon - that's really the key. As much as you'd like all those weapon mods, for example, they aren't really necessary with FNV's impressive arsenal.

Just play Bounties III, maybe a few other recent quest mods and by the time you're finished FO4 will be out already.
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>>119053126
>>119053337
Plus you could just keep the skeleton key till you get the perk to make all lockpicks skeleton keys. Or just had everything unlocked.
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>>119053451

SkyRe had lots of nonsense too, but at least it had the good sense to scrap that stupid skill tree altogether.
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>minimum: 8GB RAM
>recommended: 8GB RAM
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>>119053447
Leveling lockpick was completely pointless.
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>>119053627

It just works.
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>>119053627
Oh no, not the RAM. Looks like Imma have to make a whole new build because my RAM isn't up to par.
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>>119050701
The build I always go with
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>>119053764
Didn't it get easier the higher your level.
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>>119053627
>tfw I got 12
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>>119054198
I feel like I'm the only one who is going to put their end above 4.
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>>119054143
>Not just downloading more ram

Really anon? Its 2015.
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>>119054347
Silly anon, everyone knows that's just malware.
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>>119054201
Does it matter when you have over 100 lock picks and time freezes when fumbling with locks? You have to be quite actually mentally deficient to take lock pick perks.
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>>119054490
I wonder if time freezes when you lock pick in Fallout 4 since Looting doesn't any more.
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>>119052803
>>119053024
The bobblehead give you a level up in their stat

so if you get strength bobblehead, you can either choose to level strength up 1 or you can get a free perk
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>>119054628
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that was the one thing (along with hacking) that they forgot to unfreeze.
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>>119054329
I'll probably regret just having 1 endurance when the enemies do some bullshit like run right up to me with a double-barrel and instantly kill me.
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>>119054680

Source? That does sound nice though.
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>>119054680
Any perk or does it have to be one you're already qualified for?
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>>119054813
I wouldn't mine if hacking and Lock picking didn't freeze time (They probably still do) but at least Looting doesn't anymore
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Well, /fog/?

http://strawpoll.me/5737088
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>>119054813
It may not.

Would make them more interesting when sneaking around.
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>>119055151
I've never done werners side, but does it explain what the slave do once they're all free?
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Tried 5 times to do a livestream/let's play of Fallout 3 today. Every time the game froze before I even got to the G.O.A.T.
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>>119050701
Going to drop a point into perception fairly early on for demolitions expert, otherwise going to focus on melee with energy weapons being my sidearm. a few points into charisma to get up to local leader and maxing out str and end are going to be later goals.
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>>119055659

Install TTW dawg, much more stable.
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>>119055659
Yeah, F3 really fucking hates streaming for some reason.
I wanted to stream Cube Experimental some time back and it would always freeze after a few minutes. This was before TTW so it didn't matter if NV was more stable.
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>>119055363
Die of troglodyte sickness because they're all gay.
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>>119056051
Sounds about right.
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>>119014365
Everyone's dead?
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>>119050701
Eh, been changing it around for a while now.
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>>119055151
>there are people who actually, honestly believe Wernher was right

Explain yourselves.
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>>119053627
Shut the fuck up, I got 16, but they're telling me my 2gb graphics card is no good, and my 8 core cpu only just works. Thank god I remember that Bethesda bullshits with their specs.
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>>119055363
Same shit Ashur does but gayer.
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Do i actually need a geforce 730 when I have a 675? It is a bethesda game we're talking about
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>>119056471
He's white.
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>>119056710
>2gb graphics card
>anything but not good
I want toaster-fags to leave.
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So is this game going to be good or an overhyped and overrated piece of trash like Skyrim?
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Hit me
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>>119056884
You can't even tell, they're all fucking dirty and disgusting.
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>>119056885
It shits on your specs, doesn't it?
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>>119056840

Laptops suck, go away.
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>>119056951
It's actually looking to be good. Perks actually do shit that is interesting and affects playstyles. Especially past the first ranks.
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>>119056951
Just from what they've shown us, it's impossible for the game to be bad.
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>>119057132
You must not be good at reading comprehension if that's what you took away from my post.
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>>119054295
>Mfw i got 16
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That faggot from /fog/ who keeps shit-posting about NMA and Steam "bullying Fallout 3" is now shitting up /v/, making anti-Fallout 1/2 threads.
What the fuck is his problem?
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>>119057435
It massively shits on your specs. Fuck me there's some amateurs in /fog/.
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>>119057564
Autism.
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>>119057671
3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: ...indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?")...
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>>119056951
It's going to be good.
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>>119056978
>hit me

I would, but you'd fall over and die.
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>>119056951
Are these names official?
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>>119057564
No more autistic than the people who shit on 3, i.e. NMA and /v/.
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>>119058523
Fuck off, seriously. You can't complain about anti-Fallout 3 shit-posting, then proceed to do the exact same thing to other Fallout games. You're so much worse than the people you complain about.
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>>119058471
Some are.

>>119056951
It's going to be the best Bethesda game since morrowind
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>>119058803
>since morrowind
Anon pls, don't lie so blatantly.
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>>119058891
It will anon
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>>119058891

It has a chance, at least. I mean, they've even managed to figure out that multiple choices for the main quest is a pretty cool thing to have.

>Freedom and Liberty!
>Do whatever you want in a massive open world with hundreds of locations, characters, and quests. Join multiple factions vying for power or go it alone, the choices are all yours.
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>>119059091
>choices confirmed
>lots of neat perks
>they actually fixed Charisma
>Morrowind's armor system is partially back
It really is like it's not a Bethesda game.
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>>119059080
Yeah okay, maybe with mods.
>>119059091
You make a good point, I have a feeling they'll get halfway in being better than oblivion but it won't be close to Morrowind.
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>>119056951
Of course it will be an overhyped and overrated - haven't you seen the logo on the cover art? Same with every big franchise nowadays, a new episode drops and gamer media is automatically on the their dick. The question is more like: how overhyped and overrated will it be ... ?

In other words: how big will be the gap of the game's actual quality and it's obviously sky-high hype? As the latter is practically guaranteed, the only real variable is the game itself. I think it will eventually be FO3 / Skyrim v.1.4, which would still mean it's their best job in the last decade.
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>>119060072
It will be

You'll see anon you'll all see.
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>>119060072
Maybe, for once, Bethesda didn't fuck up their game.

Maybe, for once, Bethesda actually thought everything out.

Maybe, for once, Bethesda actually made a quality game.
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In one of the videos the player passes a container where you can see the loot inside through a dirty window. So animated openable containers like the refrigerator from the prologue and snack-o-matics from FO3 will probably be prevalent. Nice touch imo.
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>>119057564

Yes, differing opinions are bad. Best to shut them out.
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Fallout 4 will be Morrowind with guns.
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>>119060705
Certainly looks like Morrowind.
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>>119060660
You're literally telling people that they should die for liking Fallout 1 and 2
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>>119061015
Please no
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>>119061045
Literally where?

Screencap it. Or don't, so everyone can see you're just a shitposting idiot.
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>>119061374
K:
>>>/v/313091095
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>>119057564
Why are you on /v/ anyway?
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>>119061459

Well, it was certainly one edgy faggot. I appreciate how butthurt he made you to come all the way to /fog/.
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>>119060705
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>>119061656
I was already in /fog/, that's how I know you. You're always shitting up the general, now you're making shitposting threads on /v/ too.
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>>119061779
I name all my elf vidya characters after him.
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>>119056884
He's green though.
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>>119061779
10/10
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>>119056951
>Lady Killer
>no Confirmed Bachelor

for what purpose
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>>119062358

Maybe higher ranks enable bisexuality.
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has anyone made a todd howard preset for fallout 3/nv?
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NMA is a former shell of what it used to be

I used to go there back in 2001, Everybody else who did has moved on to greener pastures. Now it's just Euphoric 13 year olds thinking they're cool for being Contrarians. These fucking niggers think Bethesda is the terrible when Interplay was 12x worst when it came to Fallout

fuck that site and anyone who has anything to do with it anymore
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>>119056951
no

its gonna be even worse than skyrim
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>>119062669
Its just a bunch of Obsidian fanboys.
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>>119062482
>you have to choose to be gay.
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>>119062358
Might be past the first rank of the perk. Or dependant on how you deal with character customization if we're not just stuck with our nuclear family deal.
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>>119062817
No
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>>119062904

I didn't say gay. :^)

Being bi is like having your cake and fucking it too.
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>>119062482
>>119062945
So if that's the second rank

What's the third?
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>>119060326
Man, I preordered both the game and the season pass, and even I think people like you are setting yourselves up for massive disappointment. At best it'll be a bit better than Skyrim, nothing more. I'll still enjoy it all the same, and dump another 400hrs into the vanilla game, but come on.

Like, okay, best best magical improbable scenario, you get what you expect, the best game ever. That's just meeting your expectations. Meanwhile, in that same scenario, I'll be completely blown away and jizzing until I pass out. So even in your best case scenario, people thinking it's going to be mediocre or shit still win, while you just get the temporary smug satisfaction of being correct, which will fade in a short time.

Don't set yourself up for disappointment, think everything will be shit and get pleasantly surprised by everything.
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>>119063107
It lets you fuck Dogmeat.
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>>119058690
Both are autistic bitch
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>>119062904
that whole video is a minecraft of todds
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>>119063107

Remember when they said Dogmeat was going to be an extra special companion this time around?
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>>119063107
Child at heart.
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>>119063107
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>>119050701
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>>119063219
No it'll be the best Bethesda game since morrowind I know this.


You just wait you're going to be surprised.
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>>119062904
The perk isn't about being gay or straight, it's about being able to manipulate persons of the targeted sex sexually/romantically.
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>>119063509
>FO4
>low CH

At least you didn't fuck up IN.
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>>119063951
>Manipulate important dude into fucking your boipussy
>Use his post coitus nap to steal important info/steal items/kill him in his sleep
Totally not gay.
Look, if you wanna be Fallout Jack Harkness, just be Fallout Jack Harkness
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>>119064110

Gonna go with CHA as dump stat too. Local Leader is the only perk I'd want out of that tree, rest a shit.
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>>119063556
>At best it'll be a bit better than Skyrim
>No it'll be the best Bethesda game since morrowind
aren't you saying the same thing?
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>>119064608
What about the barter perkskill.
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>>119064838

You always end up with mountains of gold/caps in Bethesda games so I try to avoid that for as long as I can; being poor is fun since you can't just buy all vendor stock as soon as it spawns.

That is, unless they've actually implemented some proper money sinks this time around; base building seems to rely on the raw materials mostly - it'd be neat if you needed thousands of caps to finance the caravan runs. Implants would be nice to have as well.
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>>119064608
>tfw animal friend+wasteland whisperer allows you to recruit animals to guard your shit
>slavers/raiders roll up on your outpost
>staring down ten albino radscorpions, five deathclaws, and a platoon's worth of high grade turrets
>even the dudes in power armor scraps piss themselves and run
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>>119064838
>What about the barter perkskill.
Be shit unless it unlocks better merchant inventory.

I'm definitely gonna try and see what kind of gear you can get with just Charisma and settlement building vs. Strength crafting.
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>>119064604
Who's Jack Harkness?
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>>119065195

I'm guessing it'll just be a temporary thing instead of a permanent mob/NPC slave.
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>>119065318
Gay dude from Dr. Who.
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>>119065195
What if it's like TPP with fulton extracts except with your high CHR?
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>>119065423
A man can dream, yeah?
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>>119065551
>>119065565
Only a matter of time once the CK comes out tbh
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>>119016460
I have an issue with this.

Bethesda stated 12:01 am local time (can't remember if they specifically added in the EST or if other people thought they were implying that.) In either case, for me since I'm in the midwest, the game should either release at 12:01 am my time or 12:01 Bethesda's time (which is 11:01 pm my time) but the Steam countdown implies I won't have access to the game until between 3 and 4 am.. which is closer to Valve Headquarter's local 12:01... pisses me off thinking that Valve is gonna delay the release on their servers for 3+ hours in my area.. and probably more in other areas.
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>>119065565

Sure thing! And no doubt someone'll mod it to perform exactly like that, anyway.

I'm just always hesitant on builds in any RPG that rely on indirect strength (summons, mind control etc.) instead of increasing your killing power directly. It's amazeballs when it does work, but totally sucks when it doesn't.
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>>119064608
>Gonna go with CHA as dump stat

>raising it to 6
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>>119065989

Yeah you *could* do that, but it's not exactly going to be a high priority for me. Not that I'll bother with the base building early on, either - roaming murderhobo is the best choice to start out with.
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>>119065989
No, he's saying that only one perk interests him in the entire tree, so he'll keep it at 1 and focus on it last.
I'm doing the same thing. Intimidate seems nice, but I don't like anything else in the tree.
It's a lot like agility vs perception for me. I knew my main stat was going to be INT for crafting etc, but while agility has gun fu and reload for me, perception has sniper, concentrated fire, detection (which seems to be a see through / shoot through walls), lockpick, AND demo expert.
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>Checking out the perk chart on 111.com
>Lone Wanderer apparently gives 50% damage resistance and +200 lbs carry weight at max rank with no companions

Good god. If this is legit, what's the point of having companions at all? They better turn out to be godlike in combat, or else you're just gimping yourself by having them around. If this stacks with Toughness...
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>>119064110
Hackerman build
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>>119064608
what if it affects speech checks? you might be fucked at certain parts in the game
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>>119066584
I highly doubt most of the perk info on there is accurate.
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>>119066584
Sounds like fan speculation bullshit. First rank is 15% / 50 lbs, and I don't see higher ranks specified anywhere. Maybe more like 25% / 100, or they add other effects at higher ranks.

50 / 200 would just be stupid. You wouldn't even need armor at that point.
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>>119066584
Do not believe anything you don't see in either a video or on fallout.gamepedia.com
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>>119066584
>that pic
>attacking based God

Why.
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>>119067556
What's the difference between fallout.wikia and fallout.gamepedia, the wiki says it has more articles, is one updated more often?
>>
>recommended spec
>i74790
>literally the best gaming CPU money can buy

What the fuck? Are they serious? Who does this? Crysis aside, has any other game recently recommended literally the best CPU for gaming on the market? Even Witcher 3 had lower requirements. It's like they said "yeah, fuck it, just get that, it will run it, get a titan as well"
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>>119068101
>i7
>for gaming
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>>119066303
>>119066571
>plan on putting a ton of points into CH later on
>it's still totally my dump stat
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>>119068165
I'll take "Memes from 2013" for 200, Alex.

I would be genuinely surprised if a Core i5 doesn't rock 90 FPS average though.
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>>119068280

Dump stat for the initial selection, yes. Doesn't mean you aren't allowed to raise it at a later point though.
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I haven't preordered yet. Am I upsetting Todd?
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>>119069431
>implying T-Dawg does it for the money
>implying everything he does doesn't arise from creative passion for videogamemaking
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>>119068097
Gamepedia has better editors.
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I want somebody right now to explain to me why Fallout New Vegas is better than Fallout 3.

>shit tier setting
>ruined the feeling of Fallout with "muh cowboy" shit
>felt far to similar to FO3 leading it to grow boring a lot quicker
>quests are objectively inferior (pic related)
>settlements just aren't as good aside from New Vegas (which even that is shit tier compared to unique places like Megaton, Rivet City, Tenpenny, Paradise Falls, Little Lamplight, Oasis etc)
>game just isn't as fun
>story is worse (though that ain't saying much)
>vaults aren't as interesting

Keep it civil and try to avoid "LE BAIT" arguments
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>>119070432
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>>119070432
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recommend me a Coach SPECIAL build pls
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>>119070432
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Turned off my lighting mod, too spooky
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>>119070575

>bait
>everytime
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>>119070432
>>119070838
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>>119070432
>shit tier setting
I beg to differ.
>ruined the feeling of Fallout with "muh cowboy" shit
Fallout 1 and 2 were full of westernish vibes.
>felt far to similar to FO3 leading it to grow boring a lot quicker
It's nothing like Fallout 3.
>quests are objectively inferior (pic related)
Great cherrypicking.
>settlements just aren't as good aside from New Vegas (which even that is shit tier compared to unique places like Megaton, Rivet City, Tenpenny, Paradise Falls, Little Lamplight, Oasis etc)
Why? Because they're not based on some epic gimmick?
>game just isn't as fun
Subjective.
>story is worse (though that ain't saying much)
I guess it's okay that Liam Neeson killed himself to protect his broken machine from the people who were trying to fix it.
>vaults aren't as interesting
Vault 11 isn't interesting? Get fucked.

>>119070838
Check out the Steam scores and weep.
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>>119070838
>Game reviews.
> One can and will literally get fired for giving a AAA game a bad score.
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>>119071014
...I don't even...
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>>119071272
What?
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>>119070432
>Vault 11 isn't interesting
>Le GARY GARY GARY xD is interesting

Commit suicide
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>>119014365
Nanomachines?

Picture /fog/ related
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In other news, light levels impacting stealth/enemy awareness confirmed?
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>>119013378
Isn't there a vault girl version of this?
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>>119071014

>Fallout 1 and 2 were full of westernish vibes.

Not even close to Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 3 remained far more faithful to their tone.

>It's nothing like Fallout 3.

Are you fucking serious? It's a borderline expansion pack.

>Great cherrypicking.

Go ahead and prove me wrong.

>Why? Because they're not based on some epic gimmick?

They just aren't as good, they don't have their own personalities. They feel like the same shit, Megaton was a elgit civilization, Tempennys tower showed the delusional upper class sheltered away, Little Lamplight had another level of delusion to them in that they didn't know the situation they were in, Big Town had one of the most depressive tones to it i've ever witnessed, Oasis is self explanatory and Rivet City was truly a marvel to behold.

It's not even close.

>Check out the Steam scores and weep.

Here, have Gamefaqs as well. That's 3 sources to your 1.
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>>119016810

But which one??
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>>119065539
>gay
That's a really imprecise way of describing the dude.
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>>119071785
>Defending Little Lamplight
How much is Zenimax paying you?
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>>119071785
Fuck you, I shouldn't have replied to your shitty trolling in the first place. You got me.
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>>119066584
I'm doubtful that the perk is a straight line of numbers. Everything we've been told thus far suggests that the perks gain more and new effects as you go down their line rather than just adding to numbers.
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>>119072176
For real dude, what were you thinking?
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>>119071785
>They feel like the same shit, Megaton was a elgit civilization, Tempennys tower showed the delusional upper class sheltered away, Little Lamplight had another level of delusion to them in that they didn't know the situation they were in, Big Town had one of the most depressive tones to it i've ever witnessed, Oasis is self explanatory and Rivet City was truly a marvel to behold.

MUH ATMOSPHERE!!!!
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>>119072176

>get refuted
>literally can't make a single argument to back his statement up, no names of settlements on par with the ones I listed, no in depth and branching questlines to refute my picture
>nope, just "LE BAIT"

Epic
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I played a lot of FO3 and FNV on 360, but never PC. I have a good PC now and I got FNV and I'm wondering what some essential mods are. Care to help a wastelander out?
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>>119060339
thanks for the chuckle mate. haha
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>>119050701
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>>119072521
This fucking dude, just play the games tbh fam
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>>119072067
Sorry, faggot in denial.

There's nothing wrong with bestiality, either.
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>>119050701

BATTA SWINNNNG

This is my TF2 Scout build
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>>119071785
>They just aren't as good, they don't have their own personalities. They feel like the same shit, Megaton was a elgit civilization, Tempennys tower showed the delusional upper class sheltered away, Little Lamplight had another level of delusion to them in that they didn't know the situation they were in, Big Town had one of the most depressive tones to it i've ever witnessed, Oasis is self explanatory and Rivet City was truly a marvel to behold.

Except they don't make any sense. It's fucking stupid. How the fuck does Tenpenny Tower fund their lifestyles? How does Little Lamplight even know Big Town exists if they've never left? Where the fuck does Megaton get their food? All the towns in Fallout 3 are maymay gimmicks. The towns in New Vegas are detailed and fully thought-out.
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>>119073613
>The towns in New Vegas are detailed and fully thought-out
>throwing a few bighorners and dried out corn plants is enough to "feed" things

Anon, the acreage of the NCR sharecroppers farm isn't enough to feed Vegas alone, let alone exports. And goodsprings should have starved a long time ago.

Unless the Mojave exports a vast amount of brahmin and grain from Back West, there's no way it can sustain itself.
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>>119073613


>they don't make any sense
>in a Fallout universe

Anyway, most of your questions can easily be answered

> Tenpenny Tower fund their lifestyles

Contacts, there's nothing too fun. They have a fuck ton of mercs, contacts and means of purchase. For example, Brahmin caravans could have a deal with him in regards to exports, he can send for resources in the nearby city of Megaton (before you blow it up.

> How does Little Lamplight even know Big Town exists if they've never left?

They don't, that's literally it. They invented this town that turned into rumors and the first town you bump in to when you go in the direction that this rumored town 'happened to be in' was Big Town. The first people to leave lamplight probably stumbeled upon some random town and assumed it was the right one.

The whole point was that they didn't know.

> Where the fuck does Megaton get their food?

Where the fuck does any city/civilization in the Fallout world get its food?

>All the towns in Fallout 3 are maymay gimmicks.

Simply epic

>The towns in New Vegas are detailed and fully thought-out.

Haha, they all literally look like the same shit. aside from New Vegas and even then they some how managed to make it seem boring/generic
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>>119074000
>Unless the Mojave exports a vast amount of brahmin and grain from Back West
They probably do, judging by how important Ulysses says the Long 15 is. And why would Goodsprings starve? You see a bunch of guys growing corn and barrel cactus. And besides that, they've got the cutest Gecko hunter in the whole Mojave on their side.
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>>119024353
Uncle Leo was one of my favorite characters especially when encountering him at night with the moon out.
100/10 would chill and listen to his stories and philosophy again
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Oh look, Bethesdrones are shitting up /fog/ as usual.
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>>119046740
All of this is a load of crap, Radiant AI was cut from OBlivion becuase it DIDN'T work, BEthesda have said no countless time.

Most of the civil war in Skyrim was cut before they even started doing VAing, and notes left within the Civil war scripts indicate it was cut because it was a buggy non-functional mess, just like shit like the cut economy stuff.
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>>119027008
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>>119074000
>Implying FO3 settlements problems are because of how they feed themselfs.
Honestly, this is FO3.
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>>119074475
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>>119074605
*this is FO3's smallest problem.
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>>119044820
It's already in the game. Might be faction specific though.
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Fallout 3 was a trash Fallout game. It didn't even offer a fraction of the same sort of freedom that every other Fallout game does.
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>>119021635
sorry for the memes
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>>119070432
>mfw this is all correct besides the story part
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>>119074475

Oh look, Obsabbians got BTFO and are now resorting to memes
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>>119074962
I dont think yes-man should be included, he's not a living thing and they went through all the trouble to explain why hes 'immortal' through dialogue. Something never done in fo3.
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>>119056710
CPU requirments are bonkers. Unless Beth is doing some intense AI shit (lol) or has a bunch of NPCs on the screen (lol) I don't see what they need an i7 for. i7 will generally only net a few frames extra in benchmarks for games. What it offers over the i5 isn't that useful for gaming.
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>>119070432
Shame those are like 50% of all FO3 sidequests.
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>>119074962

>there's that picture again
>includes children and literal holograms that can't die

New Vegas fags are on literal suicide watch after FO4 got announced.
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>>119072067
I want to fuck a sentient deathclaw from FO2. And ride on its' shoulders while we roam together. Sniping people atop my deathclaw lover. They would handle melee, obviously.
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The Lone Wanderer vs. The Courier
Moira Brown vs. Sunny Smiles
President Eden vs. Mr. House
Mister Burke vs. Vulpes Inculta
Eulogy Jones vs. Caesar
Fawkes vs. Dog/God
Desmond Lockheart vs. Raul
Sarah Lyons vs. Veronica
Joshua Graham vs. Ulysses

Who wins in each fight?
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>>119075230

>more is better
>implying there wasn't the Expansion packs that literally shit on New Vegas's expansions
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>>119075276
>image is about limiting freedom from previous games and NV
>previous games allowed you to kill children
>only reason you couldn't in NV was because Beth wouldn't let Obsidian
>"hurr u included children, shit image, durr"
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>>119075276
I didn't know that Elder Lyons was a kid and Doctor Li was a hologram. Really, that explains a lot of FO3 plot.
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>>119062358
Considering you can fuck whoever it's weird they gated that perk behind sex. I assume they thought it was too OP to give you a +10% damage bonus against all hominids. I think it's safe to say most flirtation dialog won't be gated behind that, it will probably just be stuff like in FNV where you told that lady with all the dogs how young she looked. Just some compliments to old ladies to get info or light flirtation with random chicks for the same thing.
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>>119075584
>anyone standing a chance against Christopher "10 10 10 10 10 10 10" Ulysses
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>>119075584
Too varied to be a thing that can be confirmed
Sunny
Probably House, but they're not exactly capable of fighting on their own
Vulpes by a landslide
Caesar if he's post surgery
Fawkes
Desmon
Sarah
Joshua
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>>119075675
>>only reason you couldn't in NV was because Beth wouldn't let Obsidian
Not him but, this is a retarded thing to say.

Beth didn't make OBsidian do shit, its called ESRB and other agencies would ban the game across multiple countries if they allowed it.
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>>119075584

Sarah is immortal and has an Arthur, Veronica has like 15 hp prepatch and has a lost lesbian

Clearly Sarah is the victor here
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>>119075861
All correct answers
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>>119075627
>Broken Steel
>Literally created because infamously retard ending
>Mothership Zeta
>Highly linear, shot'em up gallery
>Anchorage
>See Mothership Zeta
Point outlook and the Pitt were alright, though.
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So I'm thinking 8 in INT starting out. But I don't want to level up to fast. I guess if we knew how much of a buff it was that'd help. Anyone else plan on having a high INT to start?
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>>119075627
3/5ths of FO3's DLCs were shit

>Operation Anchorage
Probably the third worst DLC ever released, only beaten by horse armor and Mothership Zeta.

>The Pitt
Good.

>Broken Steel
Mediocre as fuck. More boring "hunt the enclave" bullshit.

>Point Lookout
Good.

>Mothership Zeta
Ungodly awful. Painful. Like pulling teeth.


Compared to NV, who's only relatively poor DLC was Honest Hearts.
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>>119075861
Ayyy Joshua may be badass but Ulysses has 10 in every stat, survived a nuclear earthquake, and has robots helping him
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About to bust out my old copy of Fallout 3: GOTY edition and dust off my xbox 360. What build should I make? Is there a /roll chart?
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>>119075584
>The Lone Wanderer vs. The Courier
Both or way OP by end game so it would probably just be a stalemate.

>Moira Brown vs. Sunny Smiles
Sunny, she actually knows how to handle a gun and isn't just a weirdo science teacher.

>President Eden vs. Mr. House
For intelligence? House. Eden is bested by a rank 7 intelligence check or something. Not a very clever AI.

>Mister Burke vs. Vulpes Inculta
Their mastery of edges would cause the world to implode if they met. For real though, Vulpes, Burke is just a thug. Vulpes is a soldier.

>Eulogy Jones vs. Caesar
Going to be honest I have no memory of the first guy. So Caesar.

>Fawkes vs. Dog/God
Fawkes is so OP it's ridiculous.

>Desmond Lockheart vs. Raul
As much as it pains me to say it, Desmond would probably kill Raul.

>Sarah Lyons vs. Veronica
Sarah.

>Joshua Graham vs. Ulysses
Joshua.
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>>119076226
>>119076298
tbh OA was okay. Doesn't hold up against the others but it's unique, like one of those TCs that turns SC2 into a Diablolike.
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>>119076318
Joshua was set on fire and thrown over a cliff and survived.
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>>119076298
>Compared to NV, who's only relatively poor DLC was Honest Hearts.
You forgot BUHBEARS/BULL Lonesome Road, which was just as linear and monotonous enemy wise then MZ or OA.
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>>119076318
Does he seriously have ten in every stat? I'm going to assume that's just so he's a harder boss fight and not because Chris actually believes his self insert is a perfect human.
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>>119076426
>>119075584
>>119075861
>>Eulogy Jones vs. Caesar
Okay, I revise that one. Colonel Autumn vs. Caesar.
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>>119076318
Allies aren't permitted in duels to the death. Plus Joshua has an absurd DT and rather impressive special of 6/7/10/7/7/8/5.
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>>119076426
>Both or way OP by end game so it would probably just be a stalemate.
But Lone Wanderer gets a perk every level, anon. Courier only gets one every other level. Clear advantage to LW.
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>>119076625
Probably Colonel Autumn then because he's actually experienced and is probably better equipped.
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>>119076625

Autumn is a soldier who fights at range and a warm coat, while Ed is a linguist who used to ride around with a Mormon, fights with a boombox strapped to his fist, and wears a warm fur thing
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>>119076540
Sorry man, but I don't get how anyone could enjoy it. It's a completely linear shooting gallery. Like, literally. The only choice or anything you do is a speech check to get general chingchong to sudoku himself.
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>>119076705
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I was only thinking of skill level, not perks. It's been ages since I played Fo3, probably five years.
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>>119076561
Well, there was Royez and Gaius Magnus.
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>>119076625
Probably a closer fight, though Autumn is probably fitter and younger and uses a ranged weapon so I'd give him an edge but if Caesar could get close enough, Autumn ain't gonna take a hit all that well.
>>119076738
Caesar has been leading the Legion for ages and probably started out leading in combat and stayed that way for a while.
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Anyone got a mega link for drag armor pack 33
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>>119076705
>>119076882
It evens out. FO3's max level with all DLCs was 30 I think, while NV was 50.
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>>119076705
>But Lone Wanderer gets a perk every level, anon. Courier only gets one every other level. Clear advantage to LW.
He can also explode like a nuke, if he get the right perk.
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>>119076264

Only eight?

Okay rate and hate.

I went for fast leveling, can hack terms and lock pick. Have access to all weight increasing perks and can craft anything. Will buff luck just to get bloody mess and END to be a bit tougher. But it being fallout I'm not to worried.
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>>119076934
>Caesar has been leading the Legion for ages and probably started out leading in combat and stayed that way for a while.

That's what his hounds are for, anon. Graham was his fightmaster.

Caesar likely always stayed in the back, Leading.

If Caesar preaches a lifestyle of ultimate Super Fitness and self-sufficiency, how could his people stand behind him if he didn't follow it?

Why, the same reason people followed Adolphus Hitler despite him not being a 7 foot tall, golden haired, blue eyed nordic demigod.
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>>119076881
Oh it's a shooting gallery, but it's a shooting gallery with point buy fire teams and straight-up boss fights. I get how by Fallout standards it's shite, but it's got novelty going for it, a new biome and some solid set-pieces. It's a change of pace.
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>>119077085

I like it. Still think INT is too high. Drop one for luck and get the other two before level 10. This way you have the option for another damage increasing perk from the get go.
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>>119077649

I wonder how much faster leveling will be? I have the first 35 or so levels planned out. And fallout 3 the cap was twenty. I remember fallout taking a long long time to level up.
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>>119077903
they said it was between Fallout 3 and Skyrim speed leveling.
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>>119078052

That means nothing considering Skyrim's level curve was absolutely fucked
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>>119078109
it was fine for me.
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>>119078052

That isn't to bad. Assuming only putting one in INT won't gimp the fug outta me
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>>119077085
My friends called me a madman for only putting two points into strength and endurance.
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>>119077903
Per the character post "faster than Fallout 3, not as fast as Skyrim". Which makes sense; now you get XP for crafting and settlements, but you don't get XP for firing your gun a la Skrimm.

Since we saw level 50 characters being bandied about in the footage I have to believe that's achievable through conventional gameplay, not just endless grinding for XP play.
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>>119077049
Yeah, but if we're talking about level up perks then LW still gets 30 Courier's 25, special/quest perks is where Courier beats him, but a lot of them are simple damage perks that don't apply to him. After that we've got to take into account available weapons and gear; assuming best in-lore loadout then Courier has T-51b Power Armor Gauss Rifle/Holorifle /Missile Launcher while the LW has Hellfire Armor and Gauss Rifle/Drone Cannon Ex-B/Missile Launcher. Assuming they run out of ammo disabling each other's Power Armors, then I'd give the edge to the Courier because he could receive training from a bunch of hand-to-hand fighting experts. However, if the Hellfire Armor is as tough as it's supposed to be, then I'd give the edge to the LW because his armor might survive long enough for him to tear the Courier to pieces.
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>>119078186

I personally felt that it was too shallow at low levels and a little too steep at high levels but that's me
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>>119078289
>lone wanderer
>"him"
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>>119078109

Yeah but in skyrim it was skill based. So of course it was easier to abide the shit out of. At least fallout has you killing things instead.

Although you do get XP for crafting as well but it looked really small. One XP for planting food.
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>>119078292
Well you weren't really supposed to get past level 50-55, the game was deisnged to soft cap around there.

Everything past that usually meant you were metagaming, and they weren't really concerned about people who did that.
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>>119078289
How about DR vs DT? Let's take this all the way.
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>>119078235

Shoot, it's not a bad build, assuming you don't like carrying much. For me, I like looting everything. And this was before things actually had a purpose. That's why first perk I take is strong back and then lone wanderer. Once I go somewhere new I have to take everything and then I'll cross it off the list.
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>>119078731
>cross it off the list
I'd love a can of spray paint or a stick of chalk so I can literally mark places off.
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>>119078249

Yeah but for a lot of hardcore players, that isn't shit. I hope we can adjust the slider of difficulty and get more XP. That would be amazing for end game.
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The Courier would pop all 10 of his Implant GRX and proceed to spend the next four minutes beating the living shit out of the Lone Wanderer at the speed of sound.
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>>119078453
You get XP for crafting too. Looks to be proportionate to value, same as Skyrim. I'm guessing settlement improvements are weighted against "size" or one of those other metrics at the top of the screen.

Though it looks like the recipes have stricter level gating, so it may not be as useful for power leveling.
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>>119078927
It'd be nice if they rolled a fully-supported Alternate Start up with hardcore, all of Project Nevada's options, a front-end for the console, etc. as DLC. Call it Player's Choice. Fully-voiced, NPC-acknowledged alternate start alone would be worth the price.
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>>119079087
>I'm guessing settlement improvements are weighted against "size" or one of those other metrics at the top of the screen.

In the brave new world of Fallout 4, wastelanders train to become the Ultimate Soldier by redecorating their living room
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>>119078831

Oh wow. That would be nice. Beats looking through my notebook to see if it was 100% looted or not.

Stuff didn't respawn once you took it from the world right? And did chests respawn loot? I honestly don't remember.
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>>119078610
If we went with in-game stats then the LW would win hands down because DT offers so little protection in the end-game and glitches would let the LW min-max like crazy.
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>>119079224

LW's VATS is more powerful too, so there's that advantage
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>>119079031
That's assuming he can even see the LW; if the LW is wearing the Chinese Stealth Suit he could easily just pick the Courier off with the Gauss Rifle.
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>>119079205
As opposed to the last 4 games where you learned to talk to people by shooting them in the head.
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>>119079384

Exactly

Now a nonlethal playthrough is truly possible

First you practise your feng shui, creating the perfect living room, and then you go out into the wasteland and point your gun at things to recruit them to your vast army of obedient soldiers

Also your house looks sweet
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>>119079376
>Pick off
Exactly how much damage HP do you think the Courier has?
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>>119079087

And I just noticed the XP numbers go to the thousandths place. Maybe they'll have high level areas for dedicated people. That'd be nice.
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>>119079219
According to Random Google Searches, loot table containers (cabinets, desks, etc.) do respawn after three days if you've emptied them out.

I want to say FO4's a brave new world but with the unlimited level cap and the settlement building, they probably left it in. But I'd X off doors anyway for muh immersion.
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>>119079489
they already said the game was going to have high level areas.
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>>119079518

But not the junk on the ground. I hated that it respawned. I'd also do the same looter bro. Plus with all theses mags out there that give perks it'll be worth it. Plus rare weapon hunting.
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>>119079485
I'm giving the Courier the benefit of the doubt and am assuming he's off his gourd on combat drugs while wearing the T51-b, and that the LW only hit him in the leg, so he has enough time to use Implant GRX's to get to some cover.
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>>119079738

If they're worth their salt they're both going to have popped as much turbo and psycho as is physically possible, and implant GRX for Courier
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>>119079489
It wasn't uncommon in the previous games to get 1k+ XP for quest rewards.

I really dislike the 0 padded numerical displays and super smooth vector graphics. It's like they were trying to emulate toaster Mac graphics for a minute and then backpedaled later.
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>>119079829
I mean, if the LW has access to Turbo then I'd give it to him because the Chinese Stealth Suit lets him sneak up on the Courier, who's probably expecting someone in Power Armor.
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>>119079728

I too liked cleaning up all the junk. I thought only I did that.

I even cleaned out the bottle factory in new Vegas. I had to toss grenades to knock down the high up crates.
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>>119080038

I think the Courier would be more expecting the skeleton of a robot scorpion given how their adventures went
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Okay, LW wins. Here's why. LW's VATS gives 90% damage reduction. Courier's VATS only gives 25%. I think crit chances and general speed are also weighted towards LW but the soak alone is Done-zel Washington.
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>>119080062

Not stacking the lower crates and jumping to pull them off. It's like you didn't even want 500 empty bottles.
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>>119080003
Fucking this. I wish they'd limited themselves to Tiger handheld-tier visuals, not all this tweening bullshit.
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>>119075276
The NV side still lists children, they just happen to have a few in logical places, rather than Little Fucking Lamplight. Look, I like the FO3 touches that weren't in NV as much as anyone. The Dunwich building, the not afraid to be ridiculous Vault 108, the multitude of hidden and quest-logless locations to visit. But the lower number of non-killable NPCs in the game is definitely a point in NV's favor.
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>>119080148
But do they have meta CHIM shit too? Can they reload from being fucked?

I think no matter what, they both have enough stims and drugs and damage reducing perks and ridiculously OP bullshit equipment that by the end of their fight there'd be a second nuclear holocaust, with those two at the center of a buggy, glitchy as fuck mininuke singularity.
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>>119081162

FO3 vs NV is the fight that keeps the passion in /fog/'s relationship
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>>119081372
Yeah, at least we can all agree FO2 is the real best game, bar none.
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>>119075584
>Sarah Lyons vs. Veronica
The real question is: in a 69, who would be the first to make the other squirt?
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>>119081610
This man gets it
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>>119081610

Veronica
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Is there any way to get a key early enough to preload other than buying directly from Steam? They're charging us ausfags US$80.
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>>119081610
>Sarah pees all over Veronica's face because she's watched too much porn
>Somewhere in the distance, Cass laughs
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>>119081610
Veronica. Already established to have masterful hands.

Though, would she still wear the powerfist? Talk about a donkey punch.
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>>119081730
no.
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>>119050701
Eli Atomic A Nuclear Engineer
Helped Create: Corvegas and other Chryslus Motors cars, He also worked with Vault Tec on some Vaults.
Lastly he is also one of Main developers of the Fat Man, shoulder-mounted tactical nuclear catapult.
He tries to keep his past a secret, He blames him self for the reason the world is a wasteland
His weapons of choice are Energy and Explosives
After the death of his wife and his low Charisma He takes the company of Robots and Animals as companions. I.E. Codsworth and Dog Meat
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>>119081326
Eh, they're on even ground when it comes to quickload. We can safely ignore that effect.

I stand by my assessment though. We can talk about the other matchups in terms of who they are and what they've accomplished, but Courier and LW are both abstracts, references to what is presumably the optimal build for each game. As such we can also assume the limitations and conditions of each game apply, and since NV limits the player more than FO3...

If we're NOT going by any of that bullshit? Probably the LW again. He dealt with more high-tech gunslingers than the Courier has. (This isn't meant to be a dig against NV though. FO3 generates the bigger combat monster, that's all.)
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Do you think we will get an "arrow to the knee" meme in FO4?
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Bros, I don't know why, but I am just worried about this game.

I just know there has to be a catch.

>What I saw: Combat finally has weight to it and physics in definitely in play
>Likely situation: They played on easy mode and enemies are still bullet sponges

>What I saw: Third person actually looked playable and movement looked fluid
>Likely situation: They barely played with it enough and therefore it like is still a mess

>What I saw: Meh visuals but definitely respectable
>Likely situation: Specs are overblown and the game will likely be unoptimized

>What I saw: Environments looked detailed and fun to explore
>Likely situation: Will likely hold around 3-4 diverse locations with the rest being boring ass shit and the same copy and pasted run down buildings

I can't Todd, I can't believe your lies anymore
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>>119082289
Do you mean
"will Bethesda refrence it"
or
"Will retards overblow a simple comment a random NPC says to the same level of stupid as the knee comment, despite the fact it wasn't intended to be that big of a joke?"
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>>119082493
The 2nd
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>>119082289
>>119082648
I'm sure someone will find some way to make a meme out of some random line.
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>>119082352

It's Beth, it's Creation Engine (basically). You know what's up. They have never been able to balance combat well around their own level-scaling and they love filler terrain.

Optimization is probably the least of your worries though. Skyrim wasn't too bad by Beth's standards, and this should be a step up from that.
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Have they actually shown any footage of dialogue yet?
All I've seen in any of the footage is when main character is talking to the robot, all the dialogue options are short (just a few words) replies and it looks like its potentially limit to just the face buttons on the controller...
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>>119082352
>They played on easy mode and enemies are still bullet sponges

Probably true. Definitely true for higher difficulties. They could make enemies only do more damage or add some new status effects or make them happen more often as it gets harder. But they'll just increase enemy health and damage and lower yours

>They barely played with it enough and therefore it like is still a mess

It looks a lot better than Skyrim but that's not saying much

>Specs are overblown and the game will likely be unoptimized

This worries me the most. I can play TPP at 1080/60 on my 4 year old rig. I doubt FO4 is going to look half as good and play half as well. I'll be surprised if the thing even starts on my PC

>Will likely hold around 3-4 diverse locations with the rest being boring ass shit and the same copy and pasted run down buildings

After the shitshow that Skyrim was I doubt this is going to change. It's pretty much a Bethesda staple now
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>>119082793
>After the shitshow that Skyrim was I doubt this is going to change. It's pretty much a Bethesda staple now
not him but what?
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What is going to be the top mods after a month or so?
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>>119082957
They bragged about Skyrim not being another copy paste game like Oblivion was but it was pretty much exactly the same

Even the dungeons all looked and felt the same. You have a fort dungeon, a cave, a Draugr dungeon, and Dwemer dungeons
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>>119082742
There's been a few. We've seen a conversation with Codsworth, Dogmeat, and the Vault-Tec salesman. It's all the same retarded four option, two-worded garbage.
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>>119083223

First of all, UI fixes for the toxic sludge green opaque horror show they've got going on. But honestly not much until the GECK comes out, like with Skyrim which had a few basic replacers at first only.
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>>119083223
>after a month
>before the creation kit
Some basic numbers-editing mods made in shoddy early tools, ala TESVsnip.
The shitty nude mods the come before the half-way decent mods.
Retextures start trickling in.
Maybe some new items.
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>>119083231
The only thing that holds Skyrim together for me is the Vale.

....[sigh]..the music is enchanting...
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>>119083447

Did you just [sigh] internally anon
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>>119083231
>They bragged about Skyrim not being another copy paste game like Oblivion was but it was pretty much exactly the same
I honestly dont know how you can say that.

Skyrim's dungeons were, by miles, 100X less repetitive then Oblivion's, just in basic room design, which was only pushed further by the fact Skyrim actually used clutter in its ruins all over the place, instead of the fucking totally empty/bare/devoid of all furniture, ruined or not, shit Oblivion had.

Like, in terms of diversity, Skyrim is on the other side of the planet compared to Oblivion, and even Morrowind which suffered many of the same "fucking not shit in there ruins" problems Oblivion had, though to a lesser extent.

They overused the Draugr enemy type, but in terms of details and non-repetitiveness, Skyrim's were just so far better then Morrowind/Oblivion's dungeons its not even fiar to compare them.
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>>119076625
If we're talking 1 on 1, then Autumn would win with a superior weapon.
If we're talking about with their followers, then Caesar, since he commanded an army that could actually challenge the NCR, while Autumn has the leftovers of a force that would be crushed by the NCR cicra 2277
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>>119083447

HEY HEY WHO WANTS TO PLAY SKYRIMJOB AGAIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_0XTrx_Xzo

THANK ME LATER
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>>119083564
I officially request this music at my funeral.
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>>119083564
Soule is the best wow.
I wish he did the stuff instead of Zur.
Maybe Zur isn't getting a fair chance but man, the stuff Soule's done for Oblivion and this is just amazing.
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>>119083516
I'm probably being cynical but it's really hard for me to find big differences between different dungeons of the same type

I'm so happy that they're at least not one-hallway bullshit like before but aside from that there's just not much to differentiate them. They all share the same assets

I'm probably asking for too much by wanting each dungeon to actually be unique and completely hand crafted but I go /out/ a lot and from walking a few miles from one location to another the scenery can completely change. Skyrim just felt like miles of the same shit
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>>119083321
well this has killed about 90% of my hype for the game.
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>>119062358
I think you can choose whatever one you want. Hence why they changed Black Widow to something else.
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>>119083926
You and me both. I can't believe Fallout dialog has actually come to this.
I knew Bethesda liked to dumb shit down but Jesus Christ, this is way too far.
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>>119083926
Have you even watched the E3 videos?
How did you not know that was a thing.
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>>119083926
Same here.

That coupled with the new perk/special system created a disappointment so big within me, that I refuse to pre order or purchase this game before watching it being played.

Fuck bethesda man..
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>>119084053
Hint: He doesn't just say those two lines.
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>>119084178
>not liking the perk/special system

I bet you liked 3's ridiculous skill bloat you fag
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Is it worth it to start a new playthrough of New Vegas just for doing NV Bounties? Is it that entertaining? I need something to hold me off until F4.
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>>119084219
That's the problem though, why represent the line of dialog with those retarded two-word phrases? Why not have the whole sentence?
It's fucking retarded, you're not even going to know what you're going to say.
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>>119084178
>thinking the new system is bad
This is the casual opinion.
Skills were actually detrimental to roleplaying because you could have an int of 1 and hack a supercomputer with skills and it made special insignificant, despite rpgs always having them as more significant
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>>119084296
Someguy has a save game on the nexus you could use
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>>119084324
>actually caring what the PC says

It's the NPCs that matter
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>>119084278
>liking something before it's even testable/playable
drone detected.

>>119084328
What is specific knowledge/autism.
BTFO your post.
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>>119084324
That doesn't ruin it, although it may cause me to reload once or twice because I don't like how my character said something (which I did in ME).
But ME was fun and has good dialogues.
I don't know. It doesn't bother me. The dialogue wheel doesn't ever bother me in itself, but what does bother me is how it's mapped to four options instead of being like ME's dialogue wheel which could have many more options. Hopefully they do it in a good way that doesn't limit things too much because that would be shit.
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>>119084408
^This.

Almost every player dialog options in Fo3 or NV could be reduced to 3-5 words, with no change to how the NPC responds to it.
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Reminder that there's no legit reason for the shitwheel we've seen
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>>119084567
And? You're also vastly lowering the writing quality that way, usually by cutting out details that, while not vital, add to the narrative or setting in some way.
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>>119084408
>>119084564
>>119084567
There was literally no reason to change it. The old system was perfect as it was.
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>>119084385

Do you happen to have a link? I like actually building my character but it could help.
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>>119084635
Exzcept the PC's dialog options added NOTHING to the narrative or quality of the writing.

the ONLY quality writing and details came out of NPC responses.

Where the flying fuck are you pulling this shit from?
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>>119084109
I did watch the e3 video, which is how I picked up on the issue and why I asked if there has been any other footage of dialogue.
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>>119084415
>what is specific knowledge/autism
I love how my 1 strength guy can supersledge someone's skull in.
I love how perception/endurance/charisma were all useless perks.
I love wasting 2 levels to level up lockpick even though it's tiered in its nature.
Skills don't work, at least not with that system. Maybe a more complex one they would have, but not like that.
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So will we be able to cut off limbs from corpses in F4 like we were able to in Fallout 3?
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>>119084710
It would be nice to actually fucking know exactly what I'm going to say.
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>>119084646
>>119084646
Here ya go
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/55941/?
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>>119084567

I liked reading the funny responses, even without selecting them. Now it's gone :(
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>>119084645
I'll give you that but I don't think it will detract from the experience that much.
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>>119084825
>>119084825
Yes.

ghouls and robots can also keep attacking with limbs cut off, unlike in Fo3 and NV.


>>119084848
I have personally yet to see a dialog option not match up with what the SS said afterwards.
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>>119084710
>Nice mask, can't wait to take it as a trophy
In Bethesda's game
>Nice mask

So basically, I think I'm going to compliment him on the cool attire, but I really make a death threat. This is the problem with the wheel.
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>>119084635
lol and yet drones still claim this "is an rpg true to its core"

>>119084645
YES thank you. IT was just fucking fine. Why change it? All they accomplished was now you can 1 button push your way through the whole thing without reading shit. Great RPG.....

>>119084763
You apparently need a class on picking skills tard, because most logical human beings that play this game don't create these fuck ups for themselves. "DUURRRR WHY DO MY LVL1 STR GUY ALWAYS KILL PEEPLES WITH MELEE REAL GUD"
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>>119084408
I agree with you anon!

I love it when developers take control of my character for me! My favorite example is Mass Effect 3 where Bioware thought that giving my character (who survivez Akuze, a suicide mission and a massive reaper invasion on Earth) PTSD over seeing some kid he never met get killed was a great choice!

I mean, let's be real here, who cares about roleplaying in RPGs?
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>>119084950
> This is the problem with the wheel.
You have no indication that is going to happen, and in most games where people says it does happen, it almost never does unless you are retarded and haven't been paying attention to the conversation thus far.
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>>119084902
Every option will be limited to a max of four. Bethesda have put themselves into a potion where they're forced to limit every response to four replies, each of which are aligned to a specific theme.
There was no reason to change it, nothing to gain, and now all we're left with is a dialog system that's more limited than the last. It's nothing but a direct downgrade.
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I like the voice actors a lot so a voiced Protag is not a big of a deal at all
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>>119084710
>what are RPG elements

You are missing the point. An RPG is a ROLE PLAYING GAME. Why dumb it down and FPS it up when it's not needed?? The system worked fine. You are retarded.
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>>119085015
Literally missing the point.
Just saying the skill system undermines the more critical SPECIAL system and causes unrealistic results.
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>>119084825
Yup there's multiple examples of dismemberment in the atom bomb baby trailer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FNfqQ7iJDg0
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>>119085016
>I mean, let's be real here, who cares about roleplaying in RPGs?
Not him but, CRPGs have always given you defined backgrounds/personality traits.

ITs a fundiemtnal core of GAMEs because, unlike tabletop games which have adaptive DMs, video games do not.

You are confusing a life simulator, ala The sims, with an actual CRPG.
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>>119085086
>potion
Position*
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>>119085143
Ive never played an FPS with a dialog wheel.

TBH, you just sound massively butthurt that things changed in any way.
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>>119085178
>Not him but, CRPGs have always given you defined backgrounds/personality traits.
Not Fallout. In fact in every Fallout game other than 3 and 4, personality traits is literally a gameplay mechanic which allowed the play to pick their character's traits. Face it, Bethesda are trash at making good RPG's.
The Obsidian sequel can't come soon enough.
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>>119085278
Not him. It's not that it's "different" it's that it's a direct downgrade of what we had previously, and there's absolutely no reason to have done that.
Don't fix what isn't broken.
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Imo fo4 is pulling a mass effect 2
It remakes the game in ways that were needed but pisses off a bunch of people who, in the end, if they played it, will come around and say they liked the first one better but the second one had some much needed gameplay fixes
>>119085128
I mean
On one hand a voiced protag will make me care a bit more about the character, but removes a lot of the dialog choice
I mean it practically wipes out any chance of super edgy character lines which I think is a good thing
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>>119085295
>Not Fallout
Uhh, did you play Fallout 1, 2, or 3?

All of them had predefined backgrounds as well as forced general assumptions that your character gave a shit.

NV was the only one that didn't start off with that, and then they added it in LR.

You are talking out your ass.
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>>119085427
>It remakes the game in ways that were needed
Since when was a watered-down dialog wheel ever needed?
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>>119085147
just your character.

Seems mine were all fine, bud. Maybe I could give you some pointers.
[email protected]

>>119085178
No he isn't. What differentiates an RPG from an FPS then?

The dumbing down of this new system takes what TODD specifically said why people like his games, out. "The ability to play the game how YOU want to play it" But go ahead and tell me how i'm supposed to feel. Go ahead bethesda and show me how angry the hollywood voice actor gets angry at a situation and shove that into my face instead of letting me pick how -I- want the game to be played.

Drone detected.

>>119085278
butthurt or not, you are still retarded. lol.

>"I've never played an FPS with a dialogue wheel"
Well looks like you got something to look forward to in November eh queerbait?
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>>119085154
>>119084917
Oh thank God otherwise it would've been a dealbreaker for me

And is it me or are there new sections of body parts that you can dismember? Looking from RPG hits it looks like the corpses explode in multiple bits.
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>>119085516
1 and 2 were very vague though. It was as simple as "Vault dweller" and "Villager"
Fallout 3 fucked that up though, by pre-defining every detail of your entire life from birth. Even your exact age was pre-set.
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>>119083895
Eh the important dungeons are pretty easy to tell apart, even with just the draugr tombs. As for the environment itself, you really has to seperate shit by hold to really see the differences and can usually tell what hold you are in by the scenery. Aside from Windhelm and Winterhold being largely the same snowy shitfuck, everything else had it's own feel to it.
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>>119085414
>Direct downgrade
>Takes everything we had before, but puts it into a better interface
>All the actual content of the responses from NPCs remains unchanged

>Previous dialog menus
>Not broken
>Tonally void text options on a screen not sorted in any particular order
>Most of them were highly redundant questions that the PC would either never realistically ask, or could have been folded into other conversation topics due to those topics being about the same subject/basically the same question.

>LE EVERYTHING OLD IS PERFECT BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY ITS BEEN FOR YEARS MEME!
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>>119085694
I swear to god, Bethesda could remove SPECIAL and you fuckers would still try your best to defend it.
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>>119085628
>" and "Villager"
Except that family you had in Arroyo.

You are still talking out your ass, and using revisionist history.
>>
>>119085530
Look I do worry about how to question people about more dense information stuff but I imagine they will incorperate that using secondary wheels or some shit
but if im wrong then fuck that shit
but im not going to completely say fuck you tow fallout 4 over that one thing
I just will wait for all my expectations to be shotdown before I curse its name
I never let /v/ pessimism get to me. I find myself to be a lot more stress free and happier if I stay optomistic
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>>119084324
I'll be honest that a year ago I would have been in the same boat as I've never touched a bioware game, but after having played a bit of TORtanic i can see the appeal, though I just have the hope that bethesda can manage to have the options be a bit more obvious about what they do as that is my only issue and it lead to me quitting out of dialogue in order to try shit again.
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>>119085694
I just want to see what the PC will actually say and not break some legs for a innocuous response
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>>119085793
Ohh god, this guy is back, no wonder the shitposting hit the fan.

Should have realized it was you after the bait spamming began.

Don't you have better thing to do then come on here every night and constantly bitch that everyone who doesn't find New Vegas 100% perfect, and Fallout 3 100% shit, is some Bethesdrone?
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>>119085086
>max of four
A more option that brings up additional options is always a thing that can be done.
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>>119085694
>What is an RPG

I bet you have all the Final Fantasies from 8 and on huh.
This takes all the imagination out of the game. Just sit back and let bethesda spoon feed you a story. lol fucking a

>>119085817
a family that had close to nothing to do with what he is talking about. You're age is showing, child.

>>119085826
keep drinking that koolaide.
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>>119085923
What the fuck are you talking about, no one's even talking about New Vegas or Fallout 3
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>>119082352
Enemies being bullet sponges has been the go to difficulty increase for at over a decade now.
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>>119085975
And what if Bethesda didn't do that? What will be your next course of rationalization.
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>>119085975
but it wasn't done.

Why couldn't they have just stuck with the original without the wheel you tard.
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>>119086129
/fog/ are obligated to defend literally everything Bethesda do, now matter how shitty.
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>>119085540
You win tonight's shitposting award.
Wear it with pride, we don't just give this out like pancakes
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>>119086103
I'm not going to rationalize further, I'm just going to hope that they don't fuck up with the four options they've got.
>>119086129
It wasn't done with the tutorial npc, the first meeting with the fucking robot butler and the first meeting with a fucking dog.

By the divine dickcheese of Jesus fucking Christ the game is going to be a shitfest!
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>>119085976
>This takes all the imagination out of the game.
Are you this fucking retarded?

This is fucking 2015, not 1992 when graphics were still so shit and low res sprites you couldn't make out what half the shit in the game was, so you had to just make shit up yourself.

If you have to use your imagination to make up for parts of the game , the game has fucking failed to do its job.

You are the worst kind of Nostalgia fag
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>>119085826
My attitude right here.
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>>119085996
Did you just fucking say something about New Vegas you piece of shit bethesdrone?
Why do you guys shit on Fallout 1/2/NV all the time but won't do it to Fallout 3?
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>>119086554
>Why do you guys shit on Fallout 1/2/NV all the time
I don't know, why do you?
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Seriously, guys? Fuckin why are all you shit posters polluting every fucking /fog/ with this Fallout 3 VS Fallout New Vegas bullshit? Literally every day you go at it again and again. Can you just enjoy your fucking video game? Do people liking different vidya than you detract from your experience?

Or have I been in /v/ this whole time?
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>>119087407
It's the same faggot who keeps starting it every thread, he makes the same posts with the same images:
>>119070432
>>119071785
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>>119087576
It's every anon's duty not to respond to shit posters. He can't do shit if people don't give him attention.
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>>119075584
>The Lone Wanderer vs. The Courier
Before the games take place I think the Courier would win, after the games, with each plaer maxed, the lone wanderer would win because of taking a perk on each level
>Moira Brown vs. Sunny Smiles
Moira Brown survived a nuclear blast, she would win just because of this, even though sunny smiles is obviously the better combatant
>President Eden vs. Mr. House
Mr.House would win because his mind has a body to live in as a backup, no matter how many times he is hacked he can always just load up to another computer, but President Eden seems more badass
>Mister Burke vs. Vulpes Inculta
I feel like we didn't get a lot of background of either of these characters, but if they faced off Vulpes would disappear forever and never be heard of again, plus I defeated him at like level 8
>Eulogy Jones vs. Caesar
Caesar would absorb the entitreity of Eulogies assets
>Fawkes vs. Dog/God
Fawkes because he can keep his head and he almost 'single handedly' defeated the eastern Enclave
>Desmond Lockheart vs. Raul
Desmond Lockheart is essentially Illuminati so he wins
>Sarah Lyons vs. Veronica
Sarah Lyons no doubt, especially if she calls on her Eastern BoS for help, she has more Heart
>Joshua Graham vs. Ulysses
Joshua Graham would win just out of the fear he causes Ulysses, and the legend of himself. This is one of the tricky ones, as I think no actual fight would take place and that Ulysses just would not be allowed to win story-wise
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>>119089862
Most of the perks in Fallout 3 are useless though.

And max level is 35 with all the DLC.

That means The Courier has ten perks less (at level FIFTY), but they're definitely better in quality ... with the SOLE exception of "Almost Perfect", but then the Courier's been known to kill people with all 10's in their stats, so...
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