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"Ahoy me maties!" Edition
Previous: >>118932461

>[Upcoming Halloween Event]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151012
- Must complete Orleans to participate
- 4* Elizabeth Bathory (Caster) is reward for clearing the event story
- Must gather event-only items like previous events
- Late October

>[Chapter 3 Okeanus]
- Early November (after Halloween Event)

>[Current 4M DL Campaign]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20150929
- Check link for shop listing and daily login bonus
- Campaign ends on October 16th (Friday)
- Some shop items are only available until October 28th (Wednesday)
- Main Quests 1/2 AP campaign extended until October 30th (Friday)
- YOU MUST COMPLETE ORLEANS NOW OR NO HALLOWEEN EVENT FOR YOU!!!

>FAQ
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>Mega Pastebin
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>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true
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>Friendlist Spreadsheet
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>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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never ever
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Andrew Jackson when?
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Xth for the UNRIVALED
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POST JEANNE
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I'll totally get a monument here, r-right?
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Wouldn't mind him killing me.
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Xth for Celenike.
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King of Kings
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>>118960470
Good.
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Ilya servant when?
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>>118960510
Reeks of death.
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Should I do it, /fgog/? I don't want to waste 4 hearts If he's shit.
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I love my waifu!
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1st for Saber Umaru
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Please remember to feed your Mashu.
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>>118960610
Do whatever the fuck you want anon and stop baiting the hercfags.
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>>118960641
What a way to combine 2 literal shits
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xth for Mashu's mashumallows
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>>118960610
Only if you have no other berserker
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>>118960565
Next summer
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Your Leader died to save your life. How do you say goodbye?
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>>118960610
He's not bad. Unfortunately he's a sky-type hero which means there's many enemies he is weak to, and Kintoki and Vlad edge him out by the end by sheer 5 star growth values, but he's not bad by any stretch of the imagination. He steamrolls everything in the game at the moment.
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>>118960498
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>>118960632
Subaru?
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Every thread until Astolfo
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>>118960761
Applaud his loyalty and swiftness? I dunno, what makes Lancelot happy?
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xth for Kintoki will never be mine
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>>118960761
fuck them anally?
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>>118959631
>The advantage of modern weapons is "anyone can use them as long as they were trained"

How the fuck is this a advantage of modern weapons? Thats literally applicable to every weapon.
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>>118960761
>Artemis

DANGO
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>>118960797
What's his NP going to be if not a gun?
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>>118960616
If you really loved your waifu you's save her images at max resolution.
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>>118960761
The God of War welcomes you with open arms, Artela.
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>>118960761
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>>118960878

You're right anon, it's just nasu grasping at straws to not include gun servants.
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>>118960878
Anon, mythical weapons have compatibility, if they are not compatible with a person they just refuse to work. Case in point, Caliburn and Excalibur.
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>>118960975
please don't start this anon
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>>118960510
>>118960597
Why does no one mention that if you stick your dick in her, you'll have be in hiding for the rest of your life, otherwise she'll find you and carve you up
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Hey does anyone know if I can play this on an iphone?
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>>118960878
NP is supposed to be "The one and only, super special sacred thing that only this one guy can use"

I don't know why more people don't realize this.

it even says in the entry "NP is supposed to be the one and only"

NP is supposed to be like "Aye, this sword was forged by dwarves out of a dragon's heart".
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>>118960878
>>118961045
>samefagging this hard
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Zhuge
No
No more benevolence, please

>>118960761
Attempt to get out of her friendzone and fail like Achilles
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>>118960761
>Gilgamesh
>He considered me a friend
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>>118961097
Fuck off
You need a japanese itunes account and can only download from the Japanese itunes store
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>>118961079
but he's right
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>>118960761
I'll always be gar for you, Archer.
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>>118961085
People have, multiple times. Including the people who say they want to stick their dick in her.
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>>118960761
Please no.
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>>118961125
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>>118960878
No. No amount of training will let you pull Caliburn from the stone. No amount of training will let you cleave mountaintops with Caladbolg. No amount of training will let you know how to fling Gae Bolg to always strike its target, unless you were taught be the original wielder of Gae Bolg. No amount of training will tell you how to summon Pegasus by slashing your own neck.
Noble Phantasms are not something you can just pick up and use.
Fuck off for missing basic context. Not everyone who used a sword is a hero either, idiot.
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>>118961115
This is also the problem with guns being NP

Since they're mass produced as fuck

It would need to be super special gun with a soul.
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Best friends.
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>>118960761
I let him suck my blood
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>>118960953

Who knows, probably a barrage of bullets from his revolver, he is a 2* after all.
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>>118960761
I'd do the same thing they did in the Fate route and have a threesome with Saber and Rin.
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so evil
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>>118961115
>NP is supposed to be like "Aye, this sword was forged by dwarves out of a dragon's heart".

And then you have Matahari or Faker.
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>>118961079
I'm just sayin. Add :org to the wed address
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Does the taiga ce let you hit evade targets?
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>>118961181
Alright i'll google on how to do that, thanks anon. Here have some Lewd Jenne
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>>118961431
I want to do some evil things to her
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>>118961464
Yes.
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>>118961045
Is that his face or did someone just mess around in photoshop?
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>>118961383
But that's a gun anon

Besides with America being 3 chapters away I could see them buffing him since he and Jane are the only American servants
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>>118961383
His NP lets him escape from battle without penalty or condition.

Since he was famous for escaping from the cops.

Its not super great, but its something.
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>>118961435
Both of them have things that are pretty unique to them.
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>>118961439
* :orig
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>>118961435
>or Faker
Hey, "These swords are made out of my soul, because my innermost self is a world crafted entirely of metal and blades." is pretty fucking metal
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>>118960953
Legendary horseback escape?
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>>118961523

Dude has real life battle continuation, he got shot by a SMG but lived to tell the tale.
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Scourge of God pls
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>>118961528
>since he and Jane are the only American servants
>Quetzacoal and Jeronimo aren't americans
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>>118960975
Fuck I didn't even realize.
Thanks anon. I'm not at all used to twitter shit and my phones crap while I wait for pc parts in the mail.
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>>118961540
Yeah I think that's it. A NP is usually the heroes greatest feat or weapon and since guns can't be a NP then probably that. Curious how it'll work in the game
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>>118960761
>Attila
You were the enemy of the world.
But you were always in my heart.
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>>118961523
It's his face, he got half his face blown off during the war.
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>>118961642
>implying anyone cares about south america, america's bowels, or america's hat
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>>118961435
>Mata Hari
E RANKS ALL OVER
In terms of combat, she's the weakest servant after Avenger.
Goddamn everyone could blow her away.
And her NP is a mental effect which nearly every single hero has resistance against.
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>>118961642
Quetzacoatl will be something stupid like Cortez, just you watch.
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>>118961540

Permanent Presence Concealment?
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>>118960132
>Nasu isn't super opposed to guns like some think

Fun fact related to that, Ciel from Tsukihime is supposed to be a bit of a gun nut, it's just that Black Keys are substantially more effective against vampires. It's entirely because of her tastes that the Seventh Holy Scripture is a pile bunker.
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>>118961045
>>118961523
>Simo becomes a waifu in GO
>Still keeps the lopsided face.
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>>118961591
That's nothing compared to even Andrew Jackson

Guy got shot all the time as president, and then beat the shit out of his attackers himself while bleeding.
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>>118961642
>South America counts as 'murrica
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>>118961642
South America is never considered as America.
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>>118960597
I want to brutally fuck that mouth.
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>>118958791
>lorewise he's one of the most OP Archers to exist.
Is he that strong? i mean he only have one NP and that kills him if he ever use it.
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>>118961642
I'm holding onto the hope that quetz is a giant dinosaur just for the laughs. Don't remember jeronimo though but him too I guess.
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So those 10 tickets are staying in the store right?
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>>118960761
>Alter
She really isn't the type but I guess I'll promise her to become stronger and avenge her. She would appreciate it, maybe.
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>>118961839
You have 1 year to redeem them.
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>>118961774
Didn't Enhance have something to do with that?
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Who gonna do last memeroll at Kintoki's gacha here?
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>>118961745
Which is kind of sad because all she wants is to be a good housewife and have a happy married life, that's her wish.
>>118961819
In Fragments, when he starts firing that bow, he's shaving shit off mountains. Not with his NP. Just regular shots.
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>tfw no Alter meido
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>>118961819
It's a B++ attack and because it's suicidal he uses it as a Broken Phantasm
so A++ FUCK YOU bomb that destroys anything
it really puts into perspective how overpowered Excalibur is
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>>118961540
What about jane?
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>>118961749
Manco Capac when? He's the fucking son of the sun god
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Simofags are horrid:


Noble Phantasm:

The White Death
Valkoinen Kuolema

Rank: EX
Type: Anti-Unit, Anti-Country

The greatest asset of Archer, and the emblem of an existence born to bring death to the world. Archer is distantly related to Balor, the Irish deity of drought and blight, and it is in her that his blood has resurged strongly enough to have its greatest impact, transforming her natural Mystic Eyes of Death Perception into Mystic Eyes of Death Imposition. When active, her icy blue eyes glow a shining silvery-white, and gain the ability to impose death at range onto all in their sight. As Archer is a sniper, she uses her rifle to focus the effects of the Mystic Eyes of Death Imposition onto a single target, and fate itself is twisted as the bullet strikes a point of death, nullifying all protections and immortalities as the target is unequivocally slain.

Were Archer to use her eyes without a focus, everything within her sight would ignite, wither, and die as its life ceased at once. Without fail, such an occurrence would be a disaster greater than every extinction on Earth thus far.

Therefore, it is lucky that such a deed would be prohibitively mana-intensive, draining both Master and Servant in a matter of seconds.
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>>118961749
>quetz being cortes
>stupid

Please.
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>>118961774
Why would anyone think he's against guns or technology for that matter? He said in an interview that modern weapons can already provide bigger destructive capacity than servants.
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>>118961968
Soon you know it.
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Shaka Zulu would make for a good Lancer. ~200 years is a reasonable age, decently famous.

Strength,Endurance, and Agility at least B going off his role as a warrior-king and the claim of having his troops "run 50 miles and fight a battle", Mana naturally being abysmal,

Magic Resistance probably also crap, Charisma of B as he's a king.

NP would be the Iklwa he's credited with inventing, probably also carry around one of those big impi shields. Are there any servants that carry shields? Not that I can remember.
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CONQUISTADORES
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>>118962008
Oppenheimer servant when?
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>>118961781

>implying that's a bad thing
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>>118962008
Because most of typemoon fags are fatefags and they only see that there's no modern hero and goes 'where's muh guns'/
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>>118961745
The only thing she can do in an actual war is try to pass a normal person and kill the masters, after all she has that skill that lets everyone not think of her as an enemy.
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>>118961742
For what it's worth, South America has Rosa, first saint of the Americas. I'm sure Nasu could work the magic on her at least.
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>>118961980
>her
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So... Lancer Arturia when? Lancer Arturia Alter, when?
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>>118961929
I was planning on doing only 1 memeroll for Orion and I ended up using all my Tickets instead. Now with Kintoki I don't even feel temped to roll. The power of tits sure is amazing.
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>>118962129
>EMIYA
>not a modern hero
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>>118961980
Not that much of a Simofag but this seems interesting.
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>>118962081
>Are there any servants that carry shields?
Nope.
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>>118962167
What happened here?
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>>118962269
fug, 3rd ascension when?
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>>118962269
Oh, and also Boudicca. She's got a little round thing attached to her arm which I can only assume is a shield
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>>118962312
Sid from Toy Story 1 became a weeaboo.
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>>118961312
>>118961115
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
My rifle and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace!

If Nasu was a true American he would realize every gun is a NP.
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>>118962269
Considering that Galahad is the one possessing Mashu in the first place, will we ever get Saber Galahad or is he too broken?
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>>118962365
A buckler to be more precise.
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>>118962081
Achilles bears a shield that he never used
Ajax would have a shield that EMIYA pirated
Leonidas has a shield but it's nothing special
Herakles would get a shield under some class and can do Nine Lives with it
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Is the Kintoki/Alter event already over?
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>>118962431
Achilles did use it

By giving it to dragondick jr allowing him to survive karnas nuke
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>>118962397
Thankfully he's not. Capeshit is always bad anon.
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>>118962501
Not yet, after maintenance.
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>>118962502
Was it ever explained how they managed to do that?
Noble Phantasms can't just be as easy as "here you go, you flip the switch on the back and it turns on"?
Why could Astolfo use the Achilles Cosmos
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>>118962501
few hours left
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>>118962502
Is it too late to prevent achilles from replacing george?
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>>118962397
Thank the gods above he's not then.
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>>118962573
>>118962630
i'm going to reroll the whole night then
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>>118962129
>there's no modern hero

I am pretty sure we have heroes post-1500 in Fate.
Why aren't ship cannons count as "guns" anyway?
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>>118962652
>>118962526
I bet you fags don't even own a gun
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>>118962670

We already have tesla, what's stopping WW2 servants from getting in?
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>>118962618
It's a passive I guess. No fucking idea about astolfo though
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>>118962670
The limit of heroes is "Born before 1900's" so far

They can live into the 1900's, but they're born before then.
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>>118961970
Yeah but he dies if he use it that means he can't fight with NP if he wanted to win but i guess he's still stronger than evil cat.
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>>118962792
EMIYA
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>>118962779
Anon, you have to be more subtle in your baits.
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>>118962853
CG, not Heroic Spirit.
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>>118962668
>Starting over this late in the game
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what if Diarmuid had a gun
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>>118962895
Heroic Spirit, just not a heroic Heroic Spirit.
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>>118962618
NP gifting is a thing.
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when
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>>118962670
The latest hero of all heroes is Li Shu Wen who dies in 1934. After him, Mata Hari who died in 1917.
However, it's best to pick people from before 1900 so as to not trigger the autisms.

And no pirate cannon is an NP. Francis Drake's NP is the Wild Hunt, and Blackbeard's is his own ship, the Queen Anne.
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>>118962779
Ideally there should be no reason to own them. And in my line of work owning a gun is the one true way to identify someone as hopelessly inferior so there's thattoo.
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>>118962573
Is the half/AP for ascension map also going away after maint?
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>>118960510
She'd make a Good Demi Servant Samael
Reeks of Death-Samael is an Angel of Death in some cycles
Looks like a Snake and has the stereotypical attitude of one
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>>118962895
Counter Guardians are a type of Heroic Spirit.

And according to Kara no Kyoukai, Jeanne is a Counter Guardian as well.
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>>118962784
Only reason Hitler isnt a servant is because its too controversial.


>his global notoriety
>blitzkrieg as his NP

how OP would he be?
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>no gun NP
>forgetting about Nobunaga
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>>118962670
The cannons are part of the Wild Hunt and that particular Wild Hunt is unique to Drake.
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>>118962993
After arjuna comes out. Hopefully when his event rolls around DW doesn't mind giving out 5*s as a super event reward or we're all fucked
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>>118963012
Tesla will be the latest living proper HS so far.
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>>118962910
i just want a saber alter anon....
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>>118963012
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>>118962670
>post-1500
That's ancient. Were are our post-1950 heroes?
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>>118963012
>and Blackbeard's is his own ship, the Queen Anne.
His ship is called Queen Anne's Revenge.
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>>118963112
>>118963127
He is not in yet.
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>>118963081
>Nobunaga and Okita will be given out for free as 1* servants in their Koha Ace sprites
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>>118963035
Yes. They only extended half AP for story quest.
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>>118963120
whats the point if its not your main?
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>>118963203
You're not in yet.
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>>118963227
I'd use it.
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>>118963068

What class would he be, lancer?
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>>118963154
I can name one.

You.
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>>118963245
Fuck. Kintoki give me the strenght and luck to get you the rest of the monuments.
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>>118963056
Counter Guardians are things that can't be summoned as Heroic spirits normally, and they do not have any of the same qualifications for their job as a heroic spirit

CG doesn't need to be legendary, they don't need to be born before a certain point, they don't need to have some famous deed or worship.

All they need is to know how to ask the world to create the pact, and sell their soul.

I don't know why people don't try to realize any of this when they're being smarmy "Well what about EMIYA, he's a heroic spirit". He really isn't, he's not even something that should be summoned if it wasn't for the grail being fucked up, like certain other heroes as well.

To be a heroic spirit, there are many stipulations and things you need to fulfill, but to be a CG there's basically nothing. Its an entirely different system and classifications. Since HS are meant to be traditions to the people, and CG are meant to be janitors.

He's not a heroic spirit just like how Medusa isn't a heroic spirit, and she also couldn't be summoned if not for the grail being strange.
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>>118963068
>>118963293
>modern
>no personal feats of legend
Sorry, no, he'd be the weakest hero to date. E- rank everything, Charisma rank C.
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>>118963293
Ruler

Or avenger I guess
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>>118963426
speaking of avenger how do you think they will handle angra?

Will he be a super-shitty 5* servant?
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Why do WIld West faggots get heroic spirits when guns were actually pretty decent and easy to use back then?
People missing shots back then was mostly down to them being shit rather than the gun being disgustingly inaccurate.
Pretty much everything that could be their NP is pretty much just taking some random shit and slapping a fancy name on it.
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>>118962784
Actually, what is stopping Nimitz from being a servant? He was born pre-1900 and won the biggest naval war in history
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Which one do I do first?
I also have Spartacus, Lu Bu and Medusa
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>>118963417
>charisma c
He'd be EX and you know it
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What makes Sieg shit exactly?
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>>118963417
He could barely make the cutoff, born in the 1800s and died two years after Tesla. Don't forget, strong people are strong regardless of fame. If they wanted to wank Hitler as some supreme evil, he could be strong.
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>>118963487

>implying he won't be a rider in the america map
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>>118963068
>Longinus

I dont know...
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>>118963487
Why isnt admiral Yi a heroic spirit?

>touted as the greatest admiral of all time
>garnered respect from brits and nips alike
>his strategies are still used today
>some nigger like Marie became a HS before he did
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>>118963417
>>no personal feats of legend
>What is the holocaust

i prefer Rommel or if he isn't allowed, Bismarck
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>>118963371
The truth of the matter is that Counter Guardians are explicitly a subtype of Heroic Spirit. You can make an argument that they aren't "heroes" in the same way that most Heroic Spirits are, but they ARE Heroic Spirits.
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Agatha Christie servant when?

>Caster-Assassin like an opposite of Semi
>Presence Concealment D because of that week she fucked off without no one knowing where she was.
>Observation skill like Andersen
>Can create a territory where spooky murders happen.
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>>118963569
No. Do you know how many rebels and assassins Hitler had against him?
>>118963632
For all we know Tesla's gonna be E rank everything too.
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>>118963417
B rank minimum in all stats.
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>>118963624
People think hp means fuck all and prefer a high atk. He's a niche servant but does a damn good job at that niche. Once Jeanne alter is released then people will probably have an improved opinion of him
>>118963485
Because they're famous and America has fuck all else to use as a heroic spirit
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>>118963685

Marie gets a pass cause she's a waifu sadly.
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>>118963742
EX rank NP
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I'd like a Hou Yi archer and a battle continuation Chang'e.
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>>118963728
>D
>Not EX because she had cut off her connection with the world giving the perfect impression that she is dead
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>>118963649
>Her NP is all the power of the US NAVY
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>>118963624
he's not a cute girl
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>roll
>no special summoning animation
>close game
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>>118963742
Strength: D
Mana: B
Endurance: C
Luck: D
Agility: C
N. Phantasm: EX

The same leak also confirmed Artemis' stats, so it's legit.
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>>118963742
We know teslas stats already and he even has an EX ranked NP
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>>118963946
You can get 4+ star Servants from a normal animation.
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>>118963825
Still no. Attila doesn't get an NP symbolizing the fall of rome, why would Hitler get an NP symbolizing the fall of jews? You just don't know how NPs work, do you?
It has to be something about that hero.
The only NP that violates this is the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, and that's because Semiramis is waifu garbage they had no ideas for and Apocrypha is bullshit in general.
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>>118963946
>running away from reality
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>>118963890
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>>118964006
Tesla, not Hitler
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>>118964006
>Hitler
>Not waifu
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>>118963981
>>118963993
Oh, nevermind my nonsense then. That seems like extremely poor direction, but then grand order seems to have some really bad ideas in several quadrants. Hitler would still be a terrible servant idea though.
I'm going to sleep.
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>>118963728
I made an Agatha servant for a HGW rpg I ran for a friend of mine.
Her NP was a barrier to trap foes and play scenarios in there to play with them, and if you solve the mystery you leave or else you could end up killed by one of the "NPCs".
She pretty much gained the Red Truth from Umineko while in there to make sure people stayed trapped, but you could escape by blasting it all apart with a strong enough NPblast.

She was pretty fun to rp when they met her.

Is shikkoku no sharnoth any good? Mary is a qt.
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>>118964002
l-lies
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>>118964103
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Ruler Pinochet when?
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>>118964137
He has a robo-arm and is probably going to be credited with death rays and stuff, so it makes sense like Babbage's gundam suit giving him ++ stats.
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Columbus did nothing wrong when?
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>>118963624
High hp with shit attack.
His high hp doesn't really mean anything when he doesn't do anything well apart from kill dragons which REGEND does just as well.
He also isn't as tanky as servants with lower hp because he has no damage mitigation besides a really shitty heal and a skill that reduces his damage taken from dragons.
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>>118964272
Franco was cuter.
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>>118964225

>I made an Agatha servant for a HGW rpg I ran for a friend of mine.

What system did you use?
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>>118964225
>Is shikkoku no sharnoth any good?
I really, really wanted to like it. It has amazing production values. Good art, great character design, fantastic music, lots of appeal in every visual factor.
But no. It's not good. The writing is so dry and repetitious I wanted to tear my eyes out. The "gameplay" is abysmally luck-based and bullshit in the later stages. It is unbelievably stale and you read the same 4 scenes at the start every chapter with only the tiniest of variance.
I really, really wanted to like it.
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>>118964349
I could definitely see him as a Servant pretending to be leif arickson. Kinda like Benkei
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More Infinity gears fucking when?
Hassan is the best assassin and I can't ascend him ;_;
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>>118964415
Better or worse than Sekien no Inganock?
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>>118964230
Sometimes a silver servant card will appear and turn gold before revealing what servant you're getting, that happened when I got vlad on my alt
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>>118963371
CG are heroic spirits but no proper ones, the souls are in the throne and can be summoned if you only search there without a limitation like the one in the original fuyuki grail war.

In the other hand a proper HS can be a CG too like Jeanne and Arturia so you cant just say that all CG arent HS just because more of them are just nameless dudes.
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>>118964484
>not waiting for KING HASSAN
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>>118964351
>really shitty heal
It removes all debuffs and ailments. It ain't shitty
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>>118964508
Far, far worse. Twice as repetitious, half as interesting. But the characters are really cute and the setting seemed really interesting until nothing ever got explained and I realized I have read the exact same scene six times already and I had to drop it or lose my mind.
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>>118964534
>citation needed
Archer has an anti-hero aspect, but that doesn't mean all CGs are bitchy and edgy about their fate.
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>>118964412
Savage Worlds.
All non-Servants were made normally while unique powers were custom made. Servants were entirely custom made and got a unique MP system.
It wasn't very crunchy and we ignored a lot of rules, but it made for a good fluffy game.

>>118964415
Aw, that's a shame. At least this makes up for the fact I couldn't find a good download for it.
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>>118964535
>Using a Saber as you assassin
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>>118964415
>The writing is so dry and repetitious I wanted to tear my eyes out.
Oh this, fucking this. I can't remember that clearly anymore but there's this one line about that just repeated over and over and over.

Make me sick.
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>>118964580
I know.
That's doesn't make it any less shitty though.
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About damn time.
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>>118964351
You realize his skills also affect any Servant with dragon blood right?
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>>118964636
>same exact scene 6 times

Do they at least put any sort of variation into it? Any?
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>>118964439
I really miss when Jojo was relatively obscure in the West.

You're still a faggot for linking that.
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>>118964439
Fuck off
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This thread is unusually peaceful.
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SEIBAHR
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>>118964415
>The "gameplay" is abysmally luck-based and bullshit in the later stages.

The gameplay is really, really easy. Not much luck to it.

The rest of it is fairly spot on, though I didn't feel it was as bad as you make it sound.

Still only so many times you can read the same scene about an alter of darkness holy man from the east aristocrats mask etc etc before you just skip through.
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>>118964808
>Reached level 100 which means no refills until they increase the level cap
>don't want to waste quartz because saving them up for tamamo or ozzy
Hopefully the 12 monuments for kintoki's 4th ascension won't have a ridiculously high cost
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>>118965073
Vlad vs. Herc GO
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>>118965145
They're both fine, but work better on different sorts of teams.
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>>118965145
>Vladfags will never feel the BBC
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>>118964873
Yes, a very tiny amount usually at the end of the scene. But never the first 5 lines or so.
Always again and again with the steel dragon beneath london, secret known only to blah and blah and the queen, masked man sits in whatever, welcome the new era, every single chapter.
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>>118965187
Vlad works on a good team, and Herc works on a shit team.
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>>118965145
Kintoki
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>>118965145
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Shirou is a top-tier MC.
Discuss.
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>>118965145

Lancelot comes in and bombs both of them.
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>>118965145
UNRIVALED
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>>118965145
I pick you, anon.
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>>118965239
>every single chapter

if only

towards the end you got it 2-4 times a chapter
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>>118965119
I dunno, maybe I was just unlucky with my random generations, but some of the later running puzzles got seriously tiresome because they took so long.
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>>118961540
I could imagine that being something like a evasion buff with something else like a chance of other buffs or healing. Party-wide with a one hit evasion buff would be kind of neat, like a cheaper and weaker Jeanne and maybe comparable to Andersen.
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>>118964679
What part exactly? And i dont get your point too.
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Why do I torture myself with this shitty game?
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>>118965239
It lacks the charm of the stairs and the clown?
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What if Shirou summoned Enkidu?
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who wants a black grail CE and nothing else of value
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>>118964860
I do.
Which still doesn't make him any less shitty since it's incredibly situational.
Sure you could level Siegfried so he could be useful in those situations but you could also just level servants who aren't complete shit outside of specific situations and is still useful in the situations siegfried is.

I mean this is assuming you have access to servants who are better than Siegfried but if you don't then you should probably reroll and not try to argue for him being viable since literally anyone can be viable in the situation where you don't have anything better to chose from.
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>>118965345
I like him
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>>118965450
Well that would slay me so I'm glad I didn't get that far.
>>118965508
This has all faded to the back of my memory, but I remember Inganock's repetition actually building up to something and having a point.
If Sharnoth did, it took far, far too long to get there, and was too much for me to swallow to do so.
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>>118965508
Clown?
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>>118965478
Pretty much all of it is wrong, so citations on every sentence.
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>>118965660
i want to fuck him until he cries i adore him
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>>118965345

Objectively correct.

What would Assassin!EMIYA (pic related)'s noble phantasma be?
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Post parties
I'm using servants I like out of my collection
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>>118965686
The clown at the edge of his vision. I forget what it actually was.
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>>118965782
Probably just going to be a Broken Phantasm.
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>>118965542
Enkidu gets along with anyone, since he considers himself a tool to help his master.

Gilgamesh would change his priorities pretty fast as they both get wrapped up in each other.
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>>118965457
Tiresome I can see, keeping track of where everything was could get pretty annoying. But overall the game was pretty easy unless you wanted to go for the extra graphics, that fucking last level is literally impossible to clear for them.
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>>118965782
It would still be Unlimited Blade Works.
He is the bone of his sword.
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>>118965782
>Has a modern weapon
Has Nasu gone too far?
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So... Lancer Arturia and Lancer Arturia Alter when?
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Why do we play this game?
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What about some more Roman servants?

Cicero? Gracchus brothers?
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>>118965345
Most people who read F/SN at least like him. That group is somewhat exclusive though.
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>>118965782
This is Assassin Emiya

Only difference seems to be that he's mimicking Hassan a bit with the small knives.
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>>118965686
The guy with the watch probably, but the better part of that scene was the old man anyway.
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>>118965893

I doubt they'd use UBW for Assassin EMIYA, they didn't give saber lily excaliber after all.
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>>118965932
>Karna
>Scathach
>Brynhildr
>Enkidu
Never? The design is pretty shit anyways and we have enough saber clones.
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>>118965782
Caladbolg or Hrunting
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>>118965818
It just werks.
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>>118966034
Looks more like Butler Emiya.
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What's the secret to getting lots of FP, no matter who I put I never get anyone. and that includes Jeanne and Arturia.
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>>118966050
It's his only path.
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>>118966142
I was about to say that.
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>>118965818
Removing Waver whenever I get someone else to 80..
I wanted to make Kintoki hit hard and be tankier with Waver's buffs but the 3 arts kills me.
Although I'll probably just put Caster Liz there regardless of cards & skills when I get her.
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The servant is summoned in a way to match the master

Bazett's Rider
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>>118966086
>Crit based CE on kintoki
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>>118966050
Excalibur isn't literally Artoria's beating heart and meaning of her life. Separating Shirou from UBW is fundamentally breaking his character.
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So have we discovered the elephant in the room so to say of the leaked servant list? How the hell is Iris going to be be a servant? What would her noble phantasma or class even be?
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Non-Dark Sakura's Saber
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>>118966191
Weren't there like four King Arthurs in that set, plus Mordred?
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>>118961819
He's okay. His skillset isn't as wide or diverse as Chiron's, and his NP isn't as versatile as UBW or GoB. In raw damage output however, he seems to have the competition beat. Stella has the range of an anti-country NP and the power of an anti-fortress NP, plus he can spam arrows like they were raindrops. The blowback effect is obviously quite a major downside, though.

I'm not sure how useful his clairvoyance is. It's A-rank, but I've no idea what good it does him.
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>>118966086
I have my doubts about that but okay.
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>>118966235
You mean separating UBW from Archer, two out of three Shirous do just fine without it.
And Assassin Emiya having some variety in NPs isn't the same as removing UBW from him.
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>>118966295
Either a demi-servant who just lacked the actual HS, Avenger Iri, or some kind of Holy Grail personification.
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>>118966295
Black Irisviel is technically Angra Mainyu and would probably appeal more to whales than tattooed Shirou.
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>>118966235

For gameplay purposes though, it'd make no sence to give two different servants the exact same NP.
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>>118966219
>he doesn't know the pleasure of criting 30k even when not fully maxed
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>>118966086
>that entire team
>A BBB Servant, mixed with a QQQ and an AAA team
>these CE's
Oh shit nigger what are you doing;
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>>118964679
No one said anything about being bitchy and edgy, what the hell are you on about?
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>>118966428
>Proto Cu
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>>118966342
>matching ribbons
nice
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>>118966428
Gae Bolg
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>>118966350
Arthur gets around

Cashcrop, cashcow, cows need money
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Who deserves the screentime that Astolfo and his chinese bootleg Sieg buddy hog?
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>>118966415

Angra and Iri are two different people on the list though.
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>>118966454
>Only 30k
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>>118966428
Maybe they'll give it a different animation and make it quick or something.
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So how about servant Floyd Mayweather

Noble Phantasm:

Dindu Nuffins

Rank: A
Type: Anti-Unit

Wins the match without doing anything
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>>118966376
No, do you really not know what UBW is?
Fate Shirou has it, HF Shirou loses it in a way that fundamentally breaks him exactly like I said. HF Shirou walks a different path and becomes a completely different person.
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>>118966235
Just because his NP in this game wouldn't be invoking the reality marble and instead just using some powerful weapon he pulls from there doesn't mean his character would be "fundamentally broken".
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>>118966342
I like how her gems are shaped like sakura pedals.
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>>118966614
HF Shirou just becomes incompatible with Archer's. He could still do it with training per Rin. It's like how in the UBW anime where Shirou's hopeful UBW overwrites Archer's.
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>>118966454
>Using a berserker to generate crit stars
>Thinking that kintoki is even going to get crit stars with hassan on the field
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>>118966614
And then in HF, Rin says he will be able to get a RM even so if he trains. So it would probably be just a bit different.
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>>118966558
Cuchulainn and Artoria are like six different people each, what's your point
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>>118963981
Were there other servants with their stats leaked?
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>>118966584
The damage from a critical hit is just doubled, I have done about 37k on a buster chain and it wasn't with atk buffs.
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>>118966050
>>118965893
>>118966235
It's gonna be the Crane Wings.
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>>118966556
Semi and Amakusa corrupting evil cat to their plot.
Shakes being Shakes.
Semi.
Siegfried.
Chiron x Octocripple.
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>>118965818
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>>118965782

>implying EMIYA assassin isn't Kiritsugu
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>>118966558
Manjew Shirou is going to be a weak 1* servant while Iri is going to be the monstrosity from inside the grail and most likely a 5*.
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>>118966613
>Can't use his NP on women because he's too busy beating them
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>>118966639
Something he traces can never be his Noble Phantasm, it's not his. Nasu would veto it.
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>>118966556
Karna

Though he does have ccc I guess
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>>118965818
Waiting for Tesla to replace Gil, and then have a full "all new servants that I like" team (Kintoki kind of counts because he was cut from Apo)
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>>118966454
>putting a CE with half of it's effect being crit star generation on someone who's deck is busters
>putting a CE with the other half of it's effect being critical damage increase on a berserker with whopping 9 points of crit weight when he's placed alongside an assassin and caster without having any critical focus skills
That CE is doing fuck all and it!s doing it like once every battle. I'd say even putting a red black key would bring you more use.
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>>118966763
Billy, some japanese guy, pirate lesbians, hector, Artemis, Alter Lancer, Babbage
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>>118966831
Kerry's a cool guy but damn if he wouldn't be such a tremendous bummer to be around
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>>118966614
Shirou being a sword is a fundamental part of his body, not UBW. UBW is a skill he gets by being a sword, but he doesn't need it and and not all of the Shirous have it. HF Shirou could get it but he never has any reason to since he quits after the HGW, but even in the final moments of it he still was going full sword with them poking out of his body.
UBW is just a technique that he can do because of that, it's not a fundamental part of any of them.
HF Shirou becomes a different person for entirely different reasons then not learning UBW, I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.
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>>118966614
>t, HF Shirou loses it in a way that fundamentally breaks him exactly like I said.

Says the guy who doesn't know

Its confirmed he still has UBW in the ending of HF

Its just that Archer's ideals and his ideals are incompatible, just like how Archer's ideals and UBW Shirou's ideals are incompatible.

No matter how similar a person is, if he's diverged at all in life or has a different mind, then their internal world is different. All versions of Shirou have different world mind's.

Maybe its your fanon that you want to go with that he's lost it and its gone, but that really isn't the case officially. It is always going to be a part of him, its just this Shirou's mind is different from Archer, and thus his RM would also be different.

How you didn't realize that UBW SHirou's RM was also not the same as Archer's RM is beyond me.

No matter what form he takes on, he will always be this.
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>>118966991
UBW is the basis of all his abilities. If he can project, he has UBW. It's always his inner world.
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>>118965704
From extra:
>Archer’s origin differs from that of other Heroic Spirits, and he cannot be considered a legitimate Heroic Spirit.
>Archer is a guardian. He was born into the world as a kind of defense mechanism which arose from the collective unconscious desire of mankind for continued existence.

So if you enter the throne by doing a contract you are a CG but not a proper HS.

We all know that Arturia makes a contract in life so i dont need that one, about jeanne from Knk:

>... Separate from that, in this story just now I imagined the Saint of Orleans. The old story of how a common farmer's daughter received the command of God to fight. They say that in reality all that happened was that she used tactics that the knights of that time didn't use out of contempt and honour, but wouldn't that also be because she was instigated by something.

>Someone who acts like they have suddenly become a different person. Someone who only turns different for that moment to fight with some evildoer. That this was the guardian of the human race that they called the Counter Force.

And in a material Nasu say that she is part of the counter force, still searching for that though.

Anyway this means that counter guardians can be proper HS too.

What is the problem then?
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>>118966613
Rider servant.
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>>118966991
UBW is Emiya's inner world. Deploying it as a reality marble is a skill, but he always has it within him. And in the context we're speaking of, is Archer summoned under a different class i.e. the same existence. Removing his inner world would be a spiritual amputation.
>>118966994
That's just "a reality marble", we have no idea if it's UBW or something else. A person's inner world can change, but it means they're extremely changed as a person.
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>>118966923
>>118966740
>>118966460
As I said it just werks, 50k crit but couldn't get the screenshot.
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>>118966764
>done about 37k on a buster chain
Please tell me that's without crits because it's pretty bad even without them..
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What if Shirou summoned Liz in the 5th HGW, would Gil get BTFO even harder?
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>Both accounts will have 40 quartz tomorrow thanks to apologems and the daily login
>Only the one at the top managed to get kintoki
>want alter
I promised I would save them up for caster tamamo and ozzy but I feel like I'm never going to get alter without the rate up ;_; it's not like I'm ever going to get tamamo or ozzy anyway
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>tfw want to do Apocrypha Shirou Red Team
>tfw will need to roll 3 possible 5* and 2 4*
At least Shakes was easy to get with FP rolls.
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With the maintenance in three and a half hours, is the half AP ascension dailies stopping then or will it go until the date change?
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>>118967212
Whatever you want, anon
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>>118967212
>Liz and Shirou take turns to kick his ass
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>>118967102
Did you even read your own post?
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>Fate Extra CCC translator recounted line count, its actually half of their estimated count from 110k or so to 49k actual line count

How is 49k for line count anyway compared to other games? Standard?
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Who /wastingFPtogetEuryale/ here?
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>>118966962
Could you post billies?
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>>118967212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGPg3bq-5ZI
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>>118967183
Well he said buster chain, no BBC, so he probably meant on a single hit.
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>>118967356
A line count of 49k is past games and into VN tier for amount of lines. Tsukihime only has like a 64k line count.
Of course a bunch of those lines could be duplicates.
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>>118967452
Billy was pretty standard or average servant in stats, not too great, but not entirely bad.

He felt like a C rank type
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>>118967356
Definitely longer than most in terms of text density. 30k would be average for a long PSP RPG, for a really vague estimate.
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Just started playing this game, is rerolling worth it?
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>>118967170
> werks
try making it less obvious your under aged or from reddit or both.
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>>118967526
Well, it is Fate Extra after all so a VN-tier line count is to be expected, still, its alot more bearable from the estimate of 110k line count
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>>118967594
Playing this game isn't worth it.
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>>118967421
I'll do a couple 10 rolls but that's it. I need to save the rest for my split personality husbando
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Greetings, Anonymous. My name is Shirou, and you have just been selected to fight a Holy Grail War in my stead. The Yggdmillennia family, called Team Black for short, and their seven Servants have stolen the Holy Grail, and it will be up to you to get it back from them. Please refer to the link below:

http://fate-go.gamerch.com/%E8%AA%B2%E9%87%91%E5%8F%AC%E5%96%9A%EF%BC%88%E6%9C%9F%E9%96%93%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%EF%BC%89%E5%9D%82%E7%94%B0%E9%87%91%E6%99%82

Use this gacha simulator to summon seven Servants to fight on your behalf. The first seven (duplicates do not count) Servants you roll, regardless of quality or shared classes, shall make up the Red Team of this Holy Grail War. Tell us, how will your team do?
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>>118967526
I'd imagine duplicates is what they took out to cut the total down by half.
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>Second consecutive time that Kintoki drops a monument for me.
Thanks golden man
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>>118967594
>Just started playing this game
Stop, run away while you still can
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>>118966854
And I am still going use manjew Shirou, along with alter.
>tfw when corrupted master and servant
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>>118967594
Yes, rerolling is worth it, but if you aren't up for the long reroll grind, don't even bother playing this game.
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>>118967558
Strength: D
Mana: D
Endurance: E
Luck: B
Agility: B
N. Phantasm: C
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>>118967664

Alter/Boudica/LuBu/Chevalier/Robin/Romolus/Stheno

How fucked am I?
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>>118967664
>ROMA
>Darius
>Alex
>Alex
>Alter
>Stheno
>Alex
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>>118967779
How do you even reroll in the first place?
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>Try to play in normal speed
>shit is like x0.5 speed
BRAVO DW
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>>118967664
>Lu Bu
>D'eon
>Boudica
>Angry Black Man
>Roma
>GOLDEN
>Kiyohime

Why so many Berserkers?
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>>118967664
>Boudica
>Caesar
>Robin Hood
>Lancelot
>Kiyohime
>Atalanta
>Jing Ke
We are fucked unless Robin and Jing team up for assassination sprees.
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>>118967664
>Darius
>Ushi
>GOLDEN
>Boudica
>Saber Gilles
>Marie
>Liz
Good odds?
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>>118967664
>Ushi
>Tamamo cat
>GOLD
>Giga nigga darius
>Robin Hood
>Martha
>Evil cat
Pretty good why can't my luck be this good in-game
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>>118967664
>Kintoki
>Robin Hood
>Jing Ke
>EMIYA
>Saber Gilles
>Boudica
>Marie Antoinette

Emiya Shirou is not at all going to trust you.
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>>118967350
Anon i could get what is the problem if you just say it.
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>>118967594
Reroll for a few hours/days or just buy an account with the starter you want from moon people if you get bored.
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>>118967806
>known for never not running away from the authorities
>Just B ranked agility
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>>118967664
>kiyohime
>carmilla
>herc
>meph
>lubu
>sieg
>alter

Do I win?
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>>118967664
>Boudicca
>Darius
>Caesar
>Robin Hood
>Alexander
>Elizabeth
>Lancelot

Verdict: Utterly fucked, other than Lancelot(who is mad anyway) and Robin Hood, everyone else has a grudge against each other
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already got ike 12 pieces from Gintoki, just 3 monuments, and he RARELY appears
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>Marie
>Lu Bu
>Mephisto
>Boudicca
>Emiya
>Lancelot
>Tamamo Cat

Could be fun, I would have to babysit a lot of Berserkers though.
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>>118967928
I'm pretty sure they broke the standard speed because it's literally slow motion.
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>>118967664
>Robin Hood
>Boudica
>Proto-Cu
>Kiyohime
>Mephisto
>Lancelot
>Liz

Team mediocre represent.
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best girl W H E N
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>>118967616
Common slang on /g/, /tech/ and /a/'s jojo thread.
Sorry for triggering your autism, anon.
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>>118967664
Martha
Atalanta
Emiya
Kiyohime
Arthoria
Siegfried
Herakles

Yea, I don't think they stand much of a chance.
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>>118968291
never ever
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>>118967664
Assassin - Stheno
Lancer - Cu
Saber - Chevalier
Archer - EMIYA
Rider - Boudica
Berserker - Kintoki
Caster - Gilles

Uh will Balmung destroy Cthulhu?
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>>118967934
>>118968012
>>118968037
Who's GOLD?
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Happy family

It's so nice when your two favorite servants get drawn together.
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>>118968209
It seems to me like a bug that happens when I start the game with the 2x speed already enabled and then I go to 1x.
Everything is fine when I'm already at 1x.
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>>118968310
Just get out already.
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>>118968396
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>>118967664
>giles
>boudica
>kintoki
>proto cu
>stheno
>attila
>lu bu
I think it's ok
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>>118967664
>Robin Hood
>Boudicca
>Lu Bu
>Carmilla
>Kintoki
>St. Martha
>Alex

Wow, outside of Robin, Lu Bu, and maybe GOLD we're completely fucked.
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>>118968457
Hey, hey. Play nice. Don't bully.
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>>118967664
>Shota Alex
>Boudicca
>Ushi
>UNRIVALED
>Waifu Elizabeth
>Robin Hood
Pretty sure it's impossible to lose with Lancelot.
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>>118967664
>Boudica
>Alex
>Martha
>Saber Gilles
>Marie
>Ushi
>Atalanta

I would be crushed by the enemy assassin
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>>118967664
>Boudica
>St. Martha
>Lu Bu
>Robin Hood
>Antoinette
>Medusa
>Herakles
Robin Hood sabotages everything, Herakles and Lu Bu steamroll whatever's left, all the sexy riders have a tea party.
Robin Hood is seriously imbalanced when it comes to proper HGW. The only reason Hakuno survived in Extra is because his master was a chivalrous nutter.
Then anyone who even survives the sabotage has to get past Herakles. Even Grand Order Herakles is still a big problem for most opponents, but Fate/Stay Night Herakles is an insurmountable wall to many, many heroes. And Lu Bu is strong too, but he's just gravy. I recognize Medusa and Martha have some significant capacity to aid in combat, but they're not really needed with so much frontloaded firepower.
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>>118968550
>all the sexy riders have a tea party.
>Implying Martha won't get mad at you if you don't let her summon tarrasque and punch a few things herself.
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>>118968425
Maybe, I've never went from normal to fast though I always start in fast.
I just notice it when I want to go slow to take note of damage.
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>>118968550

Would pic related be unstoppable in a proper grail war?
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>>118967664
>Romulus
>Boudica
>Lu Bu
>Heracles
>Robin Got 3 in the same roll
>Liz
>Cu
I'm ok.
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>>118968659
Would rely mostly on tricks and traps but it would fail eventually.
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>>118968659
Yes. That is absolute game over material. Only someone like Gilgamesh (independent action) or Herakles (constant master vigilance and general invincibility) stand a chance, and even then, no guarantees with such underhanded tricksters.
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>>118967664
>Robin Hood
>Alexander
>Saber Alter
>Boudica
>Mephistopheles
>Kintoki
>EMIYA

i think i have a pretty good chance
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I intentionally gave no context so you may vote based on your own thoughts
http://strawpoll.me/5729969
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>>118968659
Pretty much

They have the same aptitude and compatibility, the same train of thought.

As long as kerry can give Robin proper stuff to work with, he will be a dreaded sniper who can turn invisible at will.
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>>118968291
Tomorrow, just belive in the intern, he will answer your prayers.
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>>118967664
>Saber Alter
>Boudicca
>Robin Hood
>D'Eon
>Saber Gilles
>Atalanta
>Heracles

I guess this is a pretty well-balanced team, in so far that Heracles and Saber Alter is a monster in fighting while the team in general is pretty stable, even counting Saber being Alter and Heracles being mad
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>>118968659
In theory but Fate isn't a setting where shit like that flies.
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>>118968659
>tumblr
Fuck off.
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>>118968890
>wanting the worst gold servant
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So is saint Martha any good? Wondering whether or not I should feed my stock of exp cards on her. It seems like her attack sucks, but hey skill is good.
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>>118968858
Robin Hood has a skill where he can remove 60% of an enemy's forces before a fight ever really starts.

For an army, even losing 30% of their men will cause a complete moral failure.

For Ionoi Heiteiro, it will poof away if half the men inside are lost, which will happen at 60%.

He's a guy used to fighting armies and super humans as long as he's fighting within his territory.
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>>118968930
Actually Fate is a setting where that absolutely flies (the underhanded lay low the overpowered), but circumstances forbid it as a matter of drama. It wouldn't happen because it would be too uninteresting to see. There would be no great heroic clashes, so it's vetoed.
>>
>Jack never
I just want a Hassan with better stats
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>>118969045
Post your team
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>>118969006
She may be the worst gold servant but she is still the best possible wife you could ask for.
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>>118967664
>Robin
>Lu-Bu
>Caesar
>Kyohime
>Arthuria
>Boudica
>Cu
I think I already won the war.
Ceasar is one of the best tactitians I could ask for, he would be the leader and the heart of my group.
Robin is a better Assassin than most Assassins with a very good NP.
Kyohime and Lu-Bu are great Berserkers, lU-Bu thanks to it's versatily and Kyohime because of the loyalty and the EX rank NP.
Arthuria is best saber.
Cu is a bro, has a OHKO NP and is great against armies.
Boudica is canon fodder if there are no Romans in the other team.

My wish would be to live with everyone of them after the war, except Boudica if she is no longer alive.
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>>118969124
And ass.
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>>118969068
It's not the underhanded and sneaky beating the overpowered, it's the courageous underdogs who beat the overpowered by overcoming the odds stacked against them.
Coming up with plans against people like Gil or Gawain or Herc to even odds isn't the same as Robin and Kerry just sniping people for a week and then winning.
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>>118969141
Robin, Lu Bu and Cu could bring you victory.
Siegfried would trash the rest easily.
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>>118968975
You're trying too hard
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>>118968659
that's a grail-winning team right there
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>>118969124
So do I
I need to offload all these ASSassin monuments on to someone
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>>118969141
>Boudica
>Robin Hood
>Lu Bu
>Shteno
>St Martha
>Lancelot
>Hercules

too many fucking Berserkers, so its a glass cannon team.
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>>118969219
Kuzuki overcomes Artoria (temporarily) and Rin overcomes Medea (temporarily) with bullshit sneak attacks. Rin also uses a bullshit sneak attack to blow off Herakles' face. Rin furthermore requires a bullshit sneak attack to try and slay Sakura, though she ultimately fails to go through with it.
To say nothing of everything Kiritsugu does with Kayneth.
The strategy is permissible by logic and lore, but not by writ of author.
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>>118969427
I have Cu with Gae Bolg and Arthuria with her incredible instincts and Excalibur. Plus Ceasar, who is a great commander.
Siegfried isn't going to have it easy.
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>>118969125
Medusa, Cu, the Berserker with the sunglasses, Robin Hood, and her are the only decent Servants i have. I don't have enough Servants to really have a team yet.
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>>118968258
>liz
>Cu
>lancelot
>kiyohime

Thats a strong lineup
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>>118969770
Siegfried would definitely beat ceasar but cu might be able to beat him if gae blog can get to his weak slot

Probably an even match for arthuria
>>
How does shota Alex and Umu feel about each other you think?
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>>118967664
>Carmilla
>Martha
>Robin Hood
>SN Cu
>Atalanta
>Shotalex
>Seiba Alter

Not bad I'd say.
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>>118969770
Siegfried could beat Arturia
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>>118969781
Then do level her up and replace Medusa with her. She'll help a ton in getting golds and cus NP ready
>>
Your third party member )if it's support, then 4th) wet the bed surprisingly.
How would you react? Would you clean it up?
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>>118969572
Robin is used to babysitting bratty kids anyway
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>>118970069
That's an odd fetish
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>>118969605
But Kuzuki doesn't kill Saber like that, Rin doesn't kill Medea or Herc (permanently) like that.
Kerry goes full assassin on Kayneth but that is the only person he does it to in the entire war, even when he snipes Ryuunosuke it happens when it is too late to stop the climactic battle. The Kayneth stuff was Uro making a point, which is why there's so much unnecessary shit in there.
As I said before, there's a difference between underdogs evening odds to lead to actual fights and someone just sniping their opponents from a kilometer away. Even when Urobutcher is writing with Kerry the only time that actually happens is when it's meaningless.
Which is why I said it would work really well theoretically but it would never happen because Fate isn't the kind of series where assassins actually assassinate more then a couple of times. I mean we have what, 6+ different authors who have worked on Fate and none of them pull 'a master/assassin/archer just snipes everyone'?
>>
Friendly reminder that if you aren't a whale fuck off and stop being a leech.
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>>118970069
>siegfried
I don't even know
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>>118969909
>cu might be able to beat him if gae blog can get to his weak slot
Gae Bolg can stab through TIME ITSELF to get the heart.
It would be trivial to go around the back.
>>118970027
That entirely depends on how much the dragon bonus matters, because Excalibur is far superior to Balmung.
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>>118970069
>Gilgamesh
I probably would get killed for laughing so hard.
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>>118967664
>Robin Hood
>D'eon
>Lu Bu
>Darius
>ROMA
>Mephisto
>Stheno

I'm fucked, might as well use 3 command spells to fuck D'eon and off myself
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>>118970069
>Mashu
HAHA
TIME FOR BULLYING
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>>118970069
Uh
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>>118970069
>Fuccboi Waver
I'd wipe it with Iskandar's Mantle the little bitch
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>>118970154

> I mean we have what, 6+ different authors who have worked on Fate and none of them pull 'a master/assassin/archer just snipes everyone'?

Who's to say that's not what happened in the second grail war? Wasn't that the one where nearly everyone ended up dead?
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>>118970069
>Saber lily
Should've burned her when I had the chance
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>>118970302
>Authors
>Second War
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>>118970154
That's just a matter of thematic appropriateness. It's thematically inappropriate, yes, but nothing about the setting makes it flawed which is what was taken issue with.
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Noah when?
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>>118970302
The fact that we know fuck all about it and never will?
The second HGW was a murder spree where apparently every single participant died anyway so something like a Berserker rampage or a massive free for all makes much more sense then Assassin killing everyone and then committing sudoku.
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>>118970302
We don't know much about the second war but yes, it is after that one that they got the church involved and decided to set some rules.
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>>118970154
>But Kuzuki doesn't kill Saber like that,
Go read the bad ends.
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>>118970456
Which Apoc improved on by calling in Ruler instead because, let's be honest, letting a human act as the mediator is retarded.
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>>118970029
How does she help getting golds?

And Medusa is high tier waifu. This will hurt.
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Be sure to get some rest so you can farm the halloween event tomorrow
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>>118970181
You forget that Siegfried have SUPER ARMOR, she doesn't stand much of a chance unless she Excaliblast the instant she sees him.
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>>118970443
Not to mention apparently Saber was one of the last two alive anyway, which probably means it was a climactic final battle where they both got killed rather then an assassination.
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>>118967664
>Lu Bu
>D'Eon
>Saber Gilles
>Stheno
>Boudica
>Cu (Prototype)
>Arturia Alter
Stheno might actually be useful against male servants and masters. She would need protection, but there are already a lot of front line candidates for that. Alter and Lu Bu would be the heavy hitters. D'Eon is survivable, so s/he can contribute where Gilles would likely get his shit slapped. Cu is a solid fighter, and would be extremely helpful against any beast Servants/Familiars. Boudica has her NP to protect everyone else.

I don't know about my chances of winning, but it would at least be interesting. This group doesn't seem as dysfunctional as some of the others posted.
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>>118970601
>Halloween event
>Tomorrow
Anon...
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>>118970563
hey what's wrong with kirei
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>>118970563
Isn't Apoc the 4th war in that timeline though?

1 and 2 went as predicted, 3rd had Ruler instead of Avenger, and Apocrypha replaces Zero. The church still mediated a war.
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>>118970589
She has 3 art cards so that increases the chance of a art combo
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>>118970154
Julius in Extra killed dozens of competitors unofficially, and tried to kill you even outside of the contest a few times. We even see a field of corpses of competitors he created at one point.

Its just that it was a grail war where more than dozens were taking place, so that's the only time we can see an assassin and master wiping out that many like its nothing.

It feels less dramatic otherwise.

Seems Julius had a little trick where he could warp a competitor to the arena for a few seconds where Assassin would just automatically try to kill them. That was his plan for thinning the competition, since violence within the schoolbuilding was impossible.
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>>118970678

>3rd had Ruler instead of Avenger

Speaking of that, do you guys think the third war would be worth writing?
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>>118970678
It has dozens upon dozens of wars to the point of wiping out all the really good magi.
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>>118970601
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>>118970758
Not with that cast
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so can anyone explain a single use for boudica whatsoever?
I literally got her three times in 4 gacha +starting summon so ive got a level 3np boudica thats still shit because romans dont seem to exist
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>>118970612
And you forget Artoria has Instinct A and an invisible sword.. It's not easy to overcome her at all. They'd exchange blows and learn a lot about each other, neither beating the other instantly.
She would, however, need to unsheathe Invisible Air and promote Excalibur to golden form, but in so doing she could cut through his skin with ease. Siegfried would probably realize that, then they'd back away to Noble Phantasm clash, which Excalibur wins effortlessly.
Seriously, how does Siegfried win again?
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Will we ever get a war where a Saber isn't the Victor?
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>>118970601
>tomorrow
What?
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>>118970069
>Its EMIYA

I would laugh at him, even if I die because of it
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>>118970664
It's not an issue with Kirei, but really letting a human act as mediator. You've got a human saying "I will uphold the integrity of the Grail War. Any who would violate that integrity must answer to me."

Nothing really stops a participant from just killing the guy and going wild. Kayneth does just that. Medea tries to do that with Kirei, and probably would've succeeded if Kirei wasn't so damn durable.

Having someone able to get reamed by any of the participants like its nothing is really a huge flaw in the system.
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>>118970830

Doesn't have to be that cast of course, that was just the only picture I could find of it.
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>>118970883
The romans don't exist because she killed them
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Every thread for the pussy destroyer.
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>>118970909
Rider (technically) wins F/SN, so yes.
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>>118970894
Nobody is going to cut Siegfried with ease without A+ or above strength. All regular A-rank attacks do instant E-rank damage.
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>>118970909

The Moon Cell war could have a Archer/Caster winner depending on your choices.
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>>118971001
>A giant eagle will never destroy your pussy
Why live?
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>>118970894
>Saber has B rank strength
>Siegfried takes a B rank off of damage
She can't even touch him without mana bursting like mad or Excaliblasting.
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The last Servant in your team sees you naked, what would be his/her reaction?
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>>118970909
Extra, two routes in F/SN, etc
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>>118971064
Golden Sword Excalibur deals stupid amounts of damage, which is why she only uses it in dire emergencies.
>The destructive power of this golden version is overwhelmingly superior. If the power when in Invisible Air is 80-90, the golden version is about 1000.

Seriously do people just forget that Artoria is one of the deadliest possible combatants in melee? As in "would kill Kojirou and Gilgamesh with one hit if they ever stopped cheating around her"? She has a bad showing in F/SN because the only person to actually stand toe-to-toe with her in combat was fucking Hercules himself.
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>>118971184
>Lancelot
>pic related
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>>118971184
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>>118971184
>dragondick
Wouldn't care.
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>>118970612
>Invisible Air
Which against other heroes has never proven effective as a tool even once aside from a means of concealing her identity.

>>118970894
Siegfried baits her into attempting a lethal attack with Armor of Fafnir like Deermud did with Gae Dearg, he tanks it and attempts to end it with a single blow.

This is before even factoring whatever bonuses he gets from his A Rank Dragon Slayer against Arturia which are unknown.
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>>118970894
Siegfried has a not-so-normal sized sword. It's not easy fighting against him normally. And that's the least of your worries.

>but in so doing she could cut through his skin with ease.
You don't know how AoF works.

>Seriously, how does Siegfried win again?
Just go fucking read at this point.
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>>118971184
>"Dammit Mashu, stop peeking on me in the shower!"
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>>118970758
>Jeanne and Gawain

Yeah, that's totally two aspects of the same Heroic Spirit.

I'll give him a pass on not including Darnic as a Master and for including Vlad when he wouldn't have been a participant if he's a participant in Apocrypha, but Zouken would have already been a hundred years old at that point and not personally participating in Grail Wars.
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>>118970894
Armor of Fafnir doesn't work like godhand; even if Seig takes A rank damage its almost entirely nullified to the point of almost being worthless.

Even if you shoot him with beamsword, he can counteract it with his own beamsword enough to nullify most of the blast, and then his armor of fafnir would null the rest.

He's quite a strong servant by all means, which is why Karna took the most interest in him out of everyone.
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>>118970682
And how does that help getting golds?
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>>118971184
>Mashu
I think we already know.
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>>118971264
>Seriously do people just forget that Artoria is one of the deadliest possible combatants in melee?
She jobs and gets her ass kicked even in Zero where she isn't nerfed by Diarmuid.
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>>118971386
Gold as in Kintoki
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>>118968890
Been saving way too much for her...

Intern kun pls help me, I don't care if she sucks, I just wanna see her smile in My Room
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>>118971307
Siegfried doesn't have eye of the mind to manipulate the situation like Diarmuid.
>>118971308
You don't know how strong Excalibur is when she's actually trying. Minusing a B+ from its damage is next to nothing because its damage is ~1000 (far beyond A+++).

>>118971382
The fact that it doesn't work like God Hand is why it sucks, it's only a depletion, not a negation. and you are idiotically underestimating Sword of Promised Victory which would blow through Balmung and Armor of Fafnir and Siegfried's HP altogether because it is an unbelievably deadly attack.
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>>118971264
Let's be fair, Kojirou doesn't really cheat. Gilgamesh does, I will grant you that, but Kojirou plays fair. Shit, he says several times outright that an honorable duel with an exceptional swordsman is all he wants.

Shit, in the VN, him and Cu are like the only Servants who die happy in any of the routes.

I guess you could make a case for Gil at the end of Fate though?
>>118971307
>Which against other heroes has never proven effective as a tool even once aside from a means of concealing her identity.
Twice in Zero it comes in handy.

The first is when she blows a hole through Caster's monsters so Diarmuid can cut Caster's book with Gae Dearg.

The second time I think she uses it to catch up to Iskandar in his chariot.
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>>118971184
>Medea
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>>118965282
>>118965292
>tfw in the gold man club
Feels good, fucker hits like a truck
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Thanks to the mercy of the RNG, I was finally able to able to ascend Asterios today. He's surprisingly soft spoken, so I had to turn my volume up to the max to hear it, but his final ascension quote is something along the lines of him marveling how high the ceiling is outdoors and how warm it is.
Interlude when?
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>>118971616
Kojirou cheats with the terrain advantage, both Artoria and himself agree on it. It's why she is so confused when he steps down and sacrifices that advantage just for another cheat; Tsubame Gaeshi.
Without Tsubame Gaeshi, on even terrain, she knocks his sword away and cuts his head off. Even Kojirou recognizes that is how it would happen.
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>>118971667
Kintoki is the GOLD Man
Gilgamesh is the Gold Man
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>Robin Hood
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>>118971480
>gets her ass kicked even in Zero where she isn't nerfed by Diarmuid.
All she got was a wound in a finger.
And that was when the opponent relied in his NP, it's like if Arthuria used Excalibur at the beginning of the fight, most Heroic Spirits would lose.
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>>118971760
Gilgamesh is the Yellow Man.
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>>118971565
That 1000 isn't on the regular damage scale. It's just a comparison to cutting potential of IA sheathed vs mana charged Excalibur.
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>>118971721
>when you remove a characters sole powerful technique that is the entire reason he is elevated to Servant class, he loses to Saber
This is supposed to make Saber look good how?
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>>118971565
Where this did delusional saberfag come from?
This is too much like a typical gilfag. I'm feeling suspicious.
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>>118971705
Probably Okeanos. Also congrats my fellow fluffanon.
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>>118971285
What a beautiful best sword
>Arondight: The Unfading Light of the Lake (無毀なる湖光, ?) is a holy sword wielded by Lancelot that is the counterpart of King Arthur's Excalibur. It bears a similar design to that of Excalibur, carved with Fairy Letters to show that it was not forged by mortal hands. It is a limitless sword capable of receiving any attack without taking damage that shines much like the water of the Lake.
>
>The mightiest patronage of Knight was touted as the strongest blade ever. Excalibur and originate from the same God ordnance instrumentation, which in its strength equal to Excalibur.
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>>118971184
>Kiyohime

Just as planned
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>>118971184

>Shota Alexander
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>>118971972
Superior blade coming through
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>>118971875
Cutting potential of Invisible Air is already high since her B strength and it improves base (non-energy-filled) Excalibur.
And yet that, her ordinary attack (40+[X] X being invisible air) already making up for some quantity of B+ [80], then that X being magnified 20 times over?
I think it surpasses 80 by a lot.
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>>118971721
Tsubame Gaeshi isn't a cheat. It's a skill he honed and mastered legitimately and is free to use. If Tsubame Gaeshi is a cheat, so is Excalibur.
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>>118971565
>The fact that it doesn't work like God Hand is why it sucks, it's only a depletion, not a negation.

You really don't understand how it works

It is negation up to a point; anything below B rank will do nothing to him. For godhand if you hit him with an A rank attack, it'll do 100% of the damage and cycle through all of his lives until its taken full effect. However Armor of Fafnir is much better, in that if it goes beyond his negation limit, it doesn't take full effect, it only takes 10% effect.

Meaning that if you hit Heracles beyond his threshold it'll do major damage, and if you hit seig over his threshold, it'll do some damage but will still be mostly nulled.

People like to shit on it, but if you're saying its not negation, that's wrong. Officially it is basically better than godhand.

His sword is one + below hers, it is more than enough to counter almost all the damage if they ever clashed, and his armor would soak up the rest, not even counting his endurance stat for the amount he might have to take upon if his armor wasn't enough since he can also tank some on his own.

If her modifiers don't go off and his did, she could even lose the sword beam clash, or they could tie. Which might happen as its noted that Seigfried who has anti-dragon abilities gains a bit of an advantage against Arthur if they ever fought in CM3. Its noted her magic resistance can't function when she's hit with his abilities, but I'm not sure that factors in much there.
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>>118971705
Nicely done friend. Welcome to the Fluff Club.
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>>118971721
>Terrain advantage is cheating
>NPs are cheating
You're telling me instincts isn't cheating? That's one of the highest level of plot armor there is.

>>118971839
>Using a NP at the start of the fight
So you may or may not have killed the enemy and you've given every other master the identity of your servant as well as its strongest card.
Good job.
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>>118971760
>>118971854
Gil is gold ranger pls
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>>118971721
>standing on top of stairs is a cheat now
>slashing your sword really god damn fast is a cheat now
Good thing that Artoria is such a fair player with invisible blade and skill that basically predicts the future.
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>>118971705
Is there any way to hear ascension quotes over? I completely missed Fluffy's line when I ascended him because he was so soft spoken.
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>>118971264
arutria thinks key word thinks she's got shit.
But then she meets people who actually know how to use a sword.
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>>118971917
>>118972054
Semantics, you can't include it as an attribute of his typical fighting style. Treat it like his Noble Phantasm; Fate/Grand Order does.

>>118972069
I know exactly how it works; but the issue is that it scales off values and not actually ranks. It is "the equivalent of a B+ attack", not "rank B+". This is where it and God Hand differ in an incredibly important way. An attack with a value of 90 (C++) gets through Armor of Fafnir (-80), but not God Hand (Not A rank).
So something like the +1000 golden sword Excalibur is how Saber would get through it.
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>>118972047
At least post a worthy sword
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>>118967664
>JETS
>EMIYA
>Robin
>Jing Ke
>Mephisto
>Boudicca
>Darius

best possible red team with redman leader
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>>118972256
I don't think so.

It's a wonder that there's not a complete audio rip of the game yet.
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>>118972051
It's a sharper blade, not more power. It's still swung with the same strength. It'd help cut sturdier armor, but it won't make a difference when swung against something that uses ranks as its basis.
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>>118971705
>marveling how high the ceiling is outdoors
Damn that's cute.
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>>118971565
>One have to activate NP to damage the other, One doesn't
It's pretty clear who have the advantage.
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>>118972220
>So you may or may not have killed the enemy and you've given every other master the identity of your servant as well as its strongest card.
Yeah, and that's exactly what Diarmuid did in his fight with Saber.
Saying he kicked her ass is just delusion, he only gave her the advantage at revealing his identity.
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>>118972417
Because there isn't a separate audio file for each voice or line. You have to play through and record snippets to break them apart. Sure people can datamine out the audio but not in a clean organized way.
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>>118972256
Not yet, unfortunately. Most of them have been transcribed on the Japanese wiki, but it's just not the same.
http://www9.atwiki.jp/f_go/pages/221.html
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>>118967664
>Kiyohime
>shotalex
>Jeannu
>Saber Gilles
>ROOMMMAAAAAAA
>Lu Bu
>Arash
I wonder how jealous Saber Gilles would be if he sees Jeannu with an enemy Siegfried.
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>>118972275
he can spam TG with no mana loss unlike other servants spamming their NP. it rivals a NP but isn't a NP. it's only categorized as a NP in FGO so it wont be spammable to an extent
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>>118972069
>His sword is one + below hers, it is more than enough to counter almost all the damage if they ever clashed
No, not how it works. Excalibur is A++ but it deals absolutely ridiculously more damage than any other NP we've seen excluding Enuma Elish.
>>118972427
But Armor of Fafnir does not use ranks as its basis, it uses values equivalent to ranks.

>>118972474
She doesn't have to activate Excalibur, just unsheathe it and fill it with energy.
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>>118972475
>the advantage

it's not like he announced the spears name.
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>>118972015
I just entered the room and we're about to get serious.
Might want to leave for a while, anon.

>>118972069
>it only takes 10% effect
That's Karna's armor and it works on every single attack.
Siegfried's AoF reduces the damage from a B-rank attack (or something similar). So if A rank is 100 and B rank is 80, he would only take 20.

>Siegfried who has anti-dragon abilities gains a bit of an advantage against Arthur
Siegfried is considered a deadly enemy to anyone and anything with a dragon element. That does include Arthoria.
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>>118972530
>She doesn't have to activate Excalibur, just unsheathe it and fill it with energy.
And Siegfried doesn't have to, how is that not a clear advantage.
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>>118972475
>Saying he kicked her ass is just delusion, he only gave her the advantage at revealing his identity.
Then why was he kicking her ass until all the other servants appeared.
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>>118972639
It's.. incredibly minor?
Siegfried still has to get through her Instinct A and past her invisible sword which can confound even Cuchulainn.
Not even using it to hide her identity, but just to throw the enemy off guard because they cannot read the size. Siegfried, who has no insight abilities, natural or trained, would not be certain if her sword would slash right through his armor or bounce off.
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>>118972220
>So you may or may not have killed the enemy and you've given every other master the identity of your servant as well as its strongest card.
>Good job.
I'm not that anon I'm >>118972054 but, come on, no one cared in Zero. Everyone knew who everyone was about 4 episodes in. Lancelot was the only one who kept his identity a secret until the end, and the LN implies (from her own thoughts no less) that Arturia actually recognized him right away and just didn't want to admit it because she couldn't bear him to be Berserker.
>>118972275
Then you can't include Excalibur. Have you ever seen Kojirou fight? His entire gameplan when he's not dicking around is to bait them into Tsubame Gaeshi.

It is definitely an attribute of his typical fighting style. It's the core of his strategy when he's shooting to kill.
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>>118972520
>Birthday line
Oh boy can't wait until my birthday to hear fluffy congratulating me.
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>>118972515
If I had time on my hands, I would volunteer to break the lines apart.
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>>118972547
No, but he gave both spears abilities. That's enough to figure his identity.

>>118972643
Why do you say he was kicking her ass?
I didn't saw her losing like in her fight with Kojiro.
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wasn't Siegfried able to match and beam struggle with Mordred?
if so how does his beam attack compare to excalibur
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>power level discussions
fuck yea my daily dose
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>>118972794
Nobody's including Excalibur in Artoria vs. Kojirou.. she never used Excalibur against him? That would indeed be cheating a lot in an exchange of melee skills..
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>>118972530
It uses ranks. If Saber has B-rank strength at the time, it's not going through at all. It's like God Hand in that aspect. The damage reduction comes into play only against A-rank attacks.
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Huh, never noticed this on previous playthroughs
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>>118972794
Remind me again about gilgamesh and hassan
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>>118972759
> super mana heavy servant
> forcing her to use mana isn't an advantage
okay stay delusional
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>Some anon acting like Siegfried, who is considered by Karna himself to only be slightly inferior to him in close combat, is a chump.

Amakusa doesn't even consider sending anyone to fight against him aside from Achilles and Karna because he literally can't defeat Achilles due to lacking divinity and Karna is the most busted servant in Apocrypha.

I'm not even saying he'd win, but when servants like Diarmuid can press her, Siegfried definitely could win. And we still don't even know how much of a bonus Dragon Slayer would give him in terms of parameters/damage I think?

>>118972873
According to The wiki
Balmung has a "rank" of 100 compared to Excalibur's 150. Balmung would definitely lose in a head-on clash of beams, just like Bellerophon did.
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>>118972873
>I haven't read Apoc
At least fucking read the damn wiki page you filthy secondary.
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>>118972912
"B-rank equivalent physical attacks and magic are nullified."
>equivalent
Not rank based. It does not say "B rank attacks are nullified". Only "B rank equivalent".
A C+ attack, which exceeds B, would get through (unless his special defense activates, which halts B+ equivalent).
It is hardly even similar to God Hand. It is not, and has never been, rank-based. Only equivalences.
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>>118972916
Hakuno is meant to be "An average person"

Someone who just blends in, and seems to typical to be anything special.

Its their charm basically
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>>118972873
Incompatible. Balmung is a wide-cone area attack, while Excalibur is a focused strike with overwhelming destructive power. Balmung's range is far inferior to Exalibur, and less focused, so unless he caught Arturia unawares he would lose the clash.
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>>118972759
Why would he be worried? even if it can damage him it's going to get reduced to scratch and it's not even activated.
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this is the second fucking arturia i've got rolling for alter

FUCK OFF I JUST WANT ALTER GVE ME SABER ALTER
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>>118972921
Iskandar figured out who Gilgamesh was pretty early on and Tokiomi had to go out of his way to make Gilgamesh not blow his identity (even then, a good number of participants knew). Gilgamesh didn't care at all.

And everyone more or less knows Assassin is Hassan because in a proper Grail War (and remember, no one knew the Grail was fucked in Zero), Hassan's your only option.

Team Black fucked with the Grail in Apocrypha to summon other Assassins specifically because everyone already knew what the 19 Hassans already had.
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>>118973046
>Balmung has a "rank" of 100 compared to Excalibur's 150. Balmung would definitely lose in a head-on clash of beams, just like Bellerophon did.

+ are situational, they might or might not go off

Also he has secondary layers of defense protecting him. 100 would be subtracted from the swordbeam contest, leaving him with 50 damage to deal with, which his armor would defend against mostly.

Even a lesser version of Rho Aias was all it took to turn the tables between Bellerophon and Excalibur.
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>>118973165
People don't fuck around with invisible weapons even if they're reasonably sure they'd be safe, anon.
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>>118973094
It's rank. Mordred with B+ strength cannot damage him at all without a command spell. If it was just numbers, she have an occasional chance of damaging him with a doubled strike.
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>>118972520
Holy shit some of these lines thrown into google translate is hilarious. I fucking wish I knew japanese right now.
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>>118973305
Fuck's sake this nonsense again.
Noble Phantasms do not use the numeric scale that parameters use. Excalibur deals far, far, FAR, FAR, FAR more damage than 150. Unbelievably so!
Even a C rank Noble Phantasm can deal A+ (100) damage in equivalence.
Excalibur, which is not only A++ but a wildly offensive A++ channeled exclusively towards devastation, would not only blow Balmung away but blast through Armor of Fafnir without any resistance. Minus 80 from a metric fuckton isn't going to do shit.
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>>118973419
Isn't Clarent without Blood Arthur active only C rank?
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The fuck is this shit. I haven't seen Kintoki in the daily at all today.
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>>118972047
Mah nigga. Even has that cloth attached for +15 style points
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>>118973491
>we'll go sloppy fight
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>>118973550
I've seen him 15 times today and got nothing but statues from him. Fuck you GOLD man.
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>>118973491
Cu?
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I knew it was only a matter of time before the true Saberfags who were even more delusional than the Gilfags were forced to surface
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>>118973491
>Holy Grail Hey
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>>118973419
B+ armor blocks B+ attack. What is that meant to prove?
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>>118973534
NP rank doesn't matter in melee. That's pointed out in the Karna fight. His EX spear doesn't apply other than mixing with him being Karna to bypass the restriction.
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>>118973491
I didn't know we had a special conversation in our birthday
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Does anyone else playing this on bluestacks have a fucking annoying lag in the audio? Like I select a unit's card and they only begin to say their catchphrase 5 seconds later.
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>>118973318
>'Nothing ventured, nothing gained'. 'Finding life through death'
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>>118973625
Just by the virtue of him being so rare and stingy, I've obtained the majority of my berserker monuments from the shades.
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>>118973528
It detracts B+ specifically from heroic NPs, so it's definitely working on the NP scale.
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>>118973909
I was looking at the wiki though
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>>118973732
It's only B unless it's an activated, heroic NP.

If it only dealt in numbers, B+ strength would work. It doesn't, so it uses ranks.
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>>118974025
I read inactive as active.

As >>118973796 mentioned, the rank itself doesn't matter in melee, it's the strength rank that is used.
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>>118973909
Why did you delete?
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>>118973939
Nigga, no one wants to deal with invisible weapons, it's a dangerous prospect. Even Cu, Mr. "I LOVE FIGHTING" complains about Invisible Air.
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The keeps freezing after every few menus and needs restarting.
Why goddammit ;_;
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>>118974114
I fucked him anally.
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>>118973903
Click the home button
Wait until the audio stops
Go back into the game
Fixed


Also 2 hours left for the Kintoki gacha to stop right?
Anyone still trying to get him?
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>>118974114
I fucked him anally
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>>118973984
>>118974112
And Sword of Promised Victory's A++ is stupidly more than that.
Honestly, using Bellerophon as an example is terrible. Pegasus, which is not ranked, is a phantasmal beast dragon-class monster on offense and defense, and Bellerophon as an A+ noble phantasm gives him a rank-up to defense and then multiplies(!!) his tremendous armor several times over.
Excalibur blew through him and killed Medusa behind him all the same. It took four fortress walls (which are not low tier) to soak enough damage so that Medusa would survive with minimal HP! (As far as I could tell, Pegasus might not have survived at all.)
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Just one berserker monument. Kintoki you faggot just drop one
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>>118973046
Diarmuid is unbeatable in theory. He specializes in beating anyone stronger than him.
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>>118973691
Yeah Spear Mentor kinda gave it away.

>>118973805
Yeah its pretty sweet. At least most of them are simple enough so if I hear it i'll be happy.
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>>118974162
The what?
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>>118974216
Not me, because I already got him and Alter too.
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>>118974161
And Siegfried doesn't care if it's dangerous as that quote shows.
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>>118967664
>Proto Cu
>Darius
>Saber Alter
>Boudica
>Martha
>Lu Bu
>Liz
Darius, Alter, and Lu Bu steamroll everything, with Martha supporting with Tarasque. Proto Cu and Boudica are in a team, picking off isolated Servants. Liz holds the fort.
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>>118974289
He's not unbeatable, he just specializes in beating people who do nothing but rely on their NP, and people who don't think ahead.

This is because his skills and planning are very good.

Mind's Eye etc
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>>118974237
I'm not arguing Excalibur to the face wouldn't kill him. It'd still be slightly less than B+ after the reduction. Only Spartacus and maybe Avalon Saber could tank that and get back up.
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>>118974314
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>>118974314
Uncle Vlad
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>>118974384
So how long did he last?
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>>118973491
>Contact yadayada
Ayyyyyyy
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>>118974314
>Uumu
heh.
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how long until maintenance
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>Keen insight highest
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Why is Kintoki such a faggot? He's shown up like 10 times for me and hasn't dropped any gold
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>>118974579
2hs.
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>>118974579

2 Hours.
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i hope halloween event give berserker monument

fuck grinding this bullshit
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>>118974496
Survived battle with both Achilles and Karna with minor injuries that were healed on the spot by master support, only died because the plot demanded Jeanne have a romance. Even then he committed sudoku rather than losing.
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>>118974496
End of volume 1.
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So do you guys plan on making Caster Liz a main stay in your team when you get her tomorrow?
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>>118974454
>>118974486
Yeah, it was the Rad Uncle. Last one, a little harder this time.

>Cowabunga
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>>118974637
He's hogging all the gold monuments for himself.
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>>118974773
>>118974819
So then what's the moral of the story, anons?

It's that Apocrypha is a disaster.
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>>118974637
>loves gold
>expecting he would drop them
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>>118974859
Hans.
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>>118974836
Not a mainstay, but she's a good candidate for a sub if her skills + NP are decent.

Already got Heaven's Feel NP 5 Medea.
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Gil please
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>>118974289
So what you're saying is that EMIYA would kick his ass?
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>>118974859
>It's also a woman in a man
How does that work?
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>>118974637
He dropped all the five monuments I needed without any refills, and one level up.

Then again the monuments were for his own ascension so he probably was ok with giving them to me.
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>>118974836
Nobody is going to get her that fast
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>>118974934
He's dropped like 4 monuments for me today. So my own GOLD is good to go.
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>No info what the events rewards are
>No info whether it starts after maintenance or in a week
>Nothing but HERE YA GO YOU CAN DO THE STORY QUESTS FOR HALF AP TILL OKEANOS:^)
Fuck these chinks
I wanna know whether to roll for Kintoki/Alter or roll the coming gacha
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>>118974859
Is this google translate?
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>>118974994
Depends on if Gae Dearg kills projections. (Most would say probably.)
If so, Diarmuid would have the compatibility edge to make up for losing his underdog flag.
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>>118974836
Eh, I already have Andersen with level 3 NP.
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20 Kintoki encounters, 2 GOLD, 18 silver, and he was just like 1/6th of the total fatal battles today

fuck

this
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>>118974836
I've said it before, as long as she isn't total garbage I'll give her a shot.
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>>118974859
Deon
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>gold chest drop
>more dust
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>>118974836
I have a special place for her inside Mashu's tummy
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>>118975127
Do you feel lucky?

Because if so go for it. Kintoki is the best Zerker in the game (yes, even outdoes Uncle Vlad) and Alter's a win too if you get her instead.
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>>118975146
I'd actually argue otherwise. Archer's projections are genuine Noble Phantasms, they're just imitations, and thus lesser than the originals. The only real magic involved is Emiya's reality marble. Gae Dearg would probably be able to mess with any enchantments on them, like what it did to Invisible Air, but it's not actually a Phantasm destroyer.
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>Due to the characteristics of Dragon, Artoria has much trouble with existences such as Siegfried, who is associated with tales of “Dragon extermination”. If she is targeted by “Dragon-slaying Sorceries”, it is possible that Magic Resistance will not function to its fullest extent.
>The blue jewel of the hilt stores and preserves magic energy (true Ether) from the age of gods, and upon releasing it, emanates a twilight aura. Those with the blood of dragons take additional damage.
In short, she has to oppose Siegfried's NP or get blown the fuck out. Can't damage him without her NP and since we are unsure of Siegfried's Dragon Slayer benefits, aside from
>This makes him an extremely dangerous entity to all dragonkind, as well as any Servants with dragon attributes, such as Artoria Pendragon.
we can't say for sure if it would or wouldn't buff his NP or regular attacks or defenses and to what point.
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>>118975229
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>>118975229
>3 Berserker shadows
>3 dust
>Kintoki as boss
>a piece
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>>118975132
Yeah.

>>118974964
>>118975187
Nope, it was this cutie.
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>>118975437
Or she could dodge it with Avalon.
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>>118974637
Fucking finally. Guess he didn't appreciate being called a faggot
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>>118975229
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Nearly got enough dragon fangs to ascend Alter or Liz. Leaning on ascending Alter first then Liz after.
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>>118974836
I can't possibly make that decision without seeing her skills, NP, and ascension costs.

My guess would be no.
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>>118975427
If it doesn't, then Archer has the super advantage as a hero-killing anti-hero, a dirty cheat to match Diarmuid, and being even weaker.
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>>118972520
Gilgamesh birthday lines are quite cold, he's totally indifferent about it. Guess Gudako can't be compared to Hakuno.
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>>118975480
For some reason this looks qt as fuck.
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>>118975556
Alter.
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>>118975556
Alter should always be your first Ascension priority until she hits her cap at 70.
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We will probably get event CEs to increase candy drop rates right? I just hate this shit
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>>118975546
She's straddling his dick.
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>>118975512
I wish Mata Hari's artist would get to design some 5* in place of Artemis & Orion and Mary Read & Anne Bonny's shitty artist
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>>118975761
/v/ pls go
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>>118975712
>4 CEs for each candy
How mad would you guys?
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>>118975604
Of course not.
Hakuno is an AI who rejects their own death with unbelievable strength. Their human desire to live (despite not being human) intrigues Gilgamesh.
Even so Gil doesn't particularly "like" them, he just finds them interesting enough to watch, much like Kotomine. They're a fancy portrait to hang on the wall, at best.
Meanwhile Gudako's got nothing. They want to 'saaaave da humans' just because it's 'the right thing to dooooo' and that kind of attitude is utterly mundane.
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>>118975778
Scathach.
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which of the following do you hate the most

shinji book
rin pendant
crystal horse
stupid dragon
azot sword
black keys
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>>118975847
I think the people who are capable of being mad left a long time ago.
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>>118975868
I hope the candies are more like Nero's medals and remotely nothing like the dangos. FUCK DANGOS
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>>118975847
not mad at all
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>>118975868
Rolling your precious quartz is a bigger deal than defying death
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>>118975903
>shinji book
Worth less stat and worthless effect
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>Just rolled twice
>Two fucking golden Sabers in a row
>Neither are Saber or Saber Alter

All I got was Siegfried and Attila. Goddammit. This is not the type of EX-Rank luck I needed.
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>>118975526
Saber fans are a lot like Superman fans it seems

They can't stand her ever losing or even potentially losing as they say she's the best everything, and they cherry pick to create this perfect version of her with shit she doesn't have normally, while saying "Its only fair" if called out.

You'd act like she's gimped without that, despite Saber Prototype having the exact same set up and you not saying he's gimped. The way she's currently summoned is the way she's summoned, she doesn't come with Avalon, she never comes with Avalon.

In G/O she's a normal servant rather than some still living entity, and she still doesn't have it. No she won't ever come equipped with that thing in any normal circumstances.
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>>118975903
all of them
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>>118976004
I got two arturias rolling for alter i feel you
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>>118975903
The dragon has haunted me more than anything else
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>>118976004
>complaining about Atilla roll.
I hope something horrible happens to you.
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>>118975903
Dragon Dick always shows up to kill your hope
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>>118976024
You aren't summoning servants with all their power in F/GO.
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>>118976024
>>In G/O she's a normal servant rather than some still living entity, and she still doesn't have it.
Because any Servant in GO can only use one Noble Phantasm for gameplay purposes.
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Which?
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>>118976143
all of them
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>>118975437
The bonus against dragon is for his NP.
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>>118976143
I wanna cum inside all of their leg stockings.
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>>118976143
All of them
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So fucking big
http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/sample/sample-9602d11e820d36247810f045106d0274.webm
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>>118976143
Is that her mouth on the bottom left?
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>>118976024
Servants only get one NP, and it's not even their best NP, because Gudako is a shit magus.
Herakles doesn't even get God Hand, his true NP.
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>>118976143
Side-tail a best
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will we ever get bersercueid or a ciel servant
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>>118976143
the one less likely to kill me
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>>118975903
All of them.
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>>118976297
Gudako can support a ton of servants at once though, that's gotta be worth something.

Imagine the mana transfers
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>>118975651
>>118975694
Alright, thanks anons. Now I kind of want to pull a kaleidoscope to pair up with Alter.
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>>118975903
The trick to not getting them is to keep them.

Keep one and every time you get a copy, upgrade the original. The game will start thinking you WANT them, so it'll stop giving you those.

Gotta fool the desire sensor, bro.
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>>118976297
Kinda hard to say that when she can have 6 servants out on the field with no real stat loses.
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>>118975903
Is an answer other than "black keys" even valid?
>>
Reminder that even if Siegfried couldn't handle Arturia by himself Sigurd definitely would be able to.
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>>118976378
>"hurry astolfo and d'eon need a mana transfer"
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>>118976450
i have more dragons than black keys combined
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>>118976378
We don't really have the full loadout as to how the Servant Summoning System "FATE" works.
Like why does Gudako have three regenerating command spells?
Why do none of the servants murder Gudako when they use up these command spells?
Are we supposed to acknowledge servants summoned in gacha or only the ones in story?
Basically there's no heads or tails it's a mobage it runs on mobage logic.
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>>118976450
Black Keys are still more useful than Shinji.

Fuck Shinji.
>>
So, maintenance in 2 hours?
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>>118976096
I'd trade this random bitch for any version of Saber in a heartbeat.

This game is already pokemon dammit, they should put in trading.
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>>118975903

>Usable
Red Black Keys
CGI Dragon
Rin Pendant
Leyline
Not-Shinji Book
other Black Keys
Crystal Horse
Azoth Sword
Shinji
>utter shit
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>>118976536
Who can stand against Gudako tho?
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>>118976567
i1 hour 30mins or so
>>118976278
cute
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>>118976297
They only get one NP gameplay wise, they still have their other NPs in lore.
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>>118976250
Not just his NP, but his entire system is "Dragon slayer" which nets him bonuses vs dragons or dragon aligned heroes.
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>>118976536
>Why do none of the servants murder Gudako when they use up these command spells?
In fairness, that's more an issue than a rule. There are a lot of Servants who don't believe in doing that.

Now don't get me wrong, faggots like Mephisto will kill you for sure, but it's not a rule.
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>>118976419
あなたはとてもキュートです
素敵なも試して
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>>118976567
maintenance delayed forever along with the event and Okeanos
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>>118976450
Black Keys are actually semi useful if you don't have any higher star essences excluding Caren/Bazett/Medea's master.

Meanwhile Shinji is the worst 3* CE.
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>>118976536
>Are we supposed to acknowledge servants summoned in gacha or only the ones in story?
Yes you are supposed to acknowledge the ones summoned in the gacha. The interludes are a pretty good reason. There's also the fact that the Fuyuki story states that you have to summon a servant through the shield Mashu has. While it does not specify or name which one you get afterwards. It's implied that you do have that servant.
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Jesus Fuck, so this is Ascension hell. Spent all day grinding and only got four or five monuments.
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>>118975604
Nah he warms up to them once he gets to bond 4 or 5.
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>do one farewell memeticket for Kintoki gacha
>get 4* Illya

Eh, not bad, with this out of 2 rolls I got 2 4*.
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COME ON YOU FAGGOT GOLD MAN GIVE ME THEM BEFORE THE MAINTENANCE
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>>118976748
No they don't. Herakles has explicitly lost God Hand as per his interlude. He just does not have it (despite the fact that he's supposed to have it) because Gudako is not as capable as Illyasviel.
Similarly Siegfried doesn't have armor of fafnir.
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>>118976780
Black Keys are useful in general because they're the only decent CEs that'll also let you have a team of 5*s.

Also is the street sign captcha going haywire for anyone else? It's all I get and it always counts the first two wrong no matter what.
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>>118976889
you haven't been in ascension hell yet until you have 200+ void refuse
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>>118975778
Well there's always Musashi
>>118975874
She's not going to be a 5*
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>>118976852
>you have to summon a servant through the shield Mashu has
Is that your first canon summon, and it is done through her shield?
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>>118976889
>Can't kill REGEND with three attacks

the fuck are you doing, anon
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>>118977025
Yes it's the summon when they gave you those free 4 gems. Her shield is the summoning system.
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>>118976962
Scathach have 2 NP in her sprite.
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>>118976350
yeah, when we get Tsukihime 2
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>>118977025
Yes. Mashu's shield is a fragment of the Round Table, and is a conceptual "meeting ground" for heroes of every caliber
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>>118977076
Who knows what else you can pull out of there
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>>118977076
So, does that mean all our shit rolls is because we starved Mashu?

Well, at least I didnt and now I have all the Saberfaces for one!
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>>118977076
>>118977136
I didn't know Mashu's shield was so important to the story. I feel bad for not feeding her now.
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>>118976567
Nevermind. A few levels up and her atk is almost as high as a lv 25 3*. I'm pretty happy with my EX-Rank luck now.

Could use advice on setting up my team now that I have decent Servants. The ones I have that matter, excluding Shielder: Atilla, Seig, Cu (Lancer), Medusa, Saint Martha, Darius III, Lu Bu, Robin Hood, and Kintoki. What would be a good line-up?

And why is Kintoki's design so terrible?
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>>118976962
I guess that's their reasoning for why siegfried and herc are 4* despite being strong as hell in their series. Maybe a later interlude will unlock them as alternative NPs
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>>118966983
>The cucking Gudako's going to give Irisviel
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>>118977131
Only in her third ascension. And we don't know if she will be using Gae Bolg (striking spear of death flight) or her first spear. The Gae Bolg she reveals may never actually be used.
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>>118977250
Have not paying attention to the summoning animation at all? That's Mashu's shield at the bottom.
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who /10 roll after quartz summon update/ here
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>>118977036
Well he does have Jeanne and a Rider, Martha to boot, who isn't particularly strong. That team would have great uptime on NPs and survivability, but a little pointless in this shitty environment DW created where we're all overleveled to shit, so high attack is all that matters.
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>>118977335
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I want the maintenance to come already so we can find out what gets added to gacha.
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>>118977272
Altera, Martha and Kiyo.
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>>118977272
>And why is Kintoki's design so terrible?
RAITA
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>>118977383
*Have you not
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>>118977407
No Jack, no roll.
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>>118977458
I WANT THE INFO WHAT GETS ADDED TO THE GACHA BEFORE THE MAINTENANCE.
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>>118966831
So in let's say this hypothetical universe, Saber's some prodigal magus that the Einzberns recruited and I guess Irisviel is just sort of there, is Kiritsugu the Assassin who's all "Let's just kill them" and Saber is all "no Assassin"
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>>118977458
Euryale.

That's it.
>>
>>118977383
It's Mashu who I haven't been paying attention to.
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>>118977557
Bad senpai.
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>>118977557
Now you know why you have shit rolls.
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>>118977436
I seems like Rin wants to join in. Also why is Taiga so upset, now she has a legit reason to go after Kerry.
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>>118977436
Rider's face gets me every fucking time.
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>>118977545
It's just going to be euryale. If it was scathatch/arjuna/someone else they would hype it up
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>>118977407
I have 1 ticket and enough for 9 singles. Does that count? I won't roll if there isn't anything new though.
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>>118977492
This RAITA?

What went wrong?
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>>118977363
I'm not saying that she can use it in gameplay but she did have 2 which disproves servants only get one NP and i doubt someone like Arjuna will only get his bow and not his nukes.
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>Decide to roll on second Gil alt I haven't touched in weeks
>Get Kintoki, Alter and Cu
>Roll on my Gil main
>get jack shit
What do? My Gil is in his third ascension and I also have Nero and Lancelot in third ascension.
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>>118977545
literally only euryale, you really think they would add anything remotely important without doing a big deal about it?
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>>118977660
I would wait till Okeanos which is coming early November.
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What if Mashu is really Galahad who went back in time to be part of the round table get the holy grail and leave back the future to be your kouhai.
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>>118977436
Gil's face and Herc amuse me
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>>118977646
Well he is bi
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>>118977647
>>118977551
That's the thing. I know it won't be any 4 or 5 star, but it might be other 3 star servants/CEs like when Proto Cu and Medea got added randomly with Gil.
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>>118977407
If the roster tickles my fancy.
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>>118977695
That anatomy looks terrible.
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>>118960761
I...couldn't.
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Out of AP and maintenance soon. Guess it's cuddle with waifu time.
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>>118977250
How did you miss watching the OP of the game, and the fact that Mashu is everywhere in the game, and that she blocked Saber Alter's attack in a special animated moment?

Mashu is super important

Her shield is Lord Camelot; the Ever Distant Fortress or whatever. As long as the user has the will to protect, then those castle walls shall never break. The shield gets stronger per her willpower, which is further amplified by her skills Mana Burse(Defense) which converts her mana into protection just like Saber's mana bust converts it into attack, and another skill which raises the defense of all nearby in a passive manner. If the skill was a higher rank, its said that it would become a sacred wall that would protect an entire city or country from all harm at once.

Also Battle Continuation

She's a fairly strong spirit; even as a simple demi-servant, who cannot exhibit the full skills of the servant she was possessed by.

Her skills are hard to weigh in numbers, since a few of them get stronger the stronger her will to protect becomes.

The OP gives her a few death flags, so she might die in the final area protecting the world from some great attack.

Only to be resummoned later, kind of like MMBN3.
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>>118977714
>I'm not saying that she can use it in gameplay but she did have 2 which disproves servants only get one NP
What?

>i doubt someone like Arjuna will only get his bow and not his nukes.
Oh it's an arjunafag. No surprise.
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>>118977831
unrivaled farewell
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>>118977772
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>>118977272
>And why is Kintoki's design so terrible?
Are you fucking blind?
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>>118977714
Anon, I think you're confusing NP and 'weapons that can be used as NP'.
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>>118977831
What's going here and who's the girl?
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>>118977975
Too bad his sprite doesn't have the orbs
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>>118977714
Having the weapon is not the same as having the noble phantasm available.
The only heroes with multiple NPs that are shown to be used are Artoria (Invisible Air) and Gilgamesh (Gate of Babylon).
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>>118976278
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>>118977786
You are forgetting that atalanta and lancelot were added with him

Course they weren't even announced but I doubt that sudden drop will happen again
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>>118977949
by skipping everything? Can't read moon why bother
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>>118977772
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>>118978079
Nice
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>>118960761
Jeanne i forbade you from using your sword's NP why would you disobey me simply to save me
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>>118977975
I honestly don't know what people got against Kintoki.
I really think he looks brilliant.
That Yankee-Yakuza /fit/-style is great.
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>>118978079
KIMI TO
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>>118977975
>shit glasses
>shit muscle
>shit veins
>shit gloves
>ugly as shit haircut until the last sprite
>smoke
The chain and belt that gets hidden by the axe is quite good though.
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>>118977827
You look terrible.
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>>118977952
>What?
The other anon says that servant only get one NP, i'm saying that they have other NPs but you can only use one gameplay wise.
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Why is Limited and Lily so cute?
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>>118978258
It's BS anyway since in the coding everyone has room for 3 noble phantasms. More are definitely planned to be added later on
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>>118978079
Nice, but Nero should fuck off. Especially considering she has a shit voice.
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Is the BHG CE even worth it? The NP boost is nice, but the health penalty makes it seem not really worth it.
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>>118978191
m8 he has the same haircut in the last ascension he's just running his hand through his hair
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>>118978258
Even lore wise many heroes have lost their extra NPs though. Interludes note it.
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>>118978079
>that Cake and Attila
Now I want Cake
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>>118978381
What the fuck is wrong with you
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>>118978191
>shit taste
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>>118978391
The health penalty is worthless when it's only a measly 500 hp and when most content can be cleared way before you get low
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>>118978214
No anon, that looks awkward and extremely painful for her.
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>>118977025

Who's the best servant you can get from the grand sumon, D'eon, Martha, Carmilla, Darius?
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>>118977975
I love his design
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MAYBE IF WE WISH HARD ENOUGH WE CAN GET THOSE LAST MONUMENTS
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>>118978473
Funny way to spell kintoshit.
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>>118977949
I knew her shield was the Round table, but nothing from what I saw in the game (I can't read moon) or in the OP tipped me off about it being used for summoning servants. I also wrote off Mashu from the start because she was some new PLOT OC with the Kouhai dynamic, and that just doesn't click with me. Basically, after gathering some of the other servants from my first 10 roll, I dropped her immediately. She's still level 6.

She's a strong servant lore-wise, and cute, but I just didn't give her a chance.
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>>118978543
D'Eon or Martha.
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>>118978541
She's a big girl.
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>>118978391
Even without the health drain it only has 10% more than Heavens Feel. Not worth it really.
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>>118977549

Saber would probably use a command seal to force him to fight honerably like how Blackmore did to Robin.
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UNRIVALED
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>>118978079
dat wo keiki
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>>118978619
>I knew her shield was the Round table, but nothing from what I saw in the game (I can't read moon) or in the OP tipped me off about it being used for summoning servants.


How about you look at what's on the bottom of the screen when you do a summon
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>>118978686
It's fine if you don't already have heavens feel
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>>118978619
>but nothing from what I saw in the game
Really?
The big summoning icon that is a shield didn't tip you off?
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Please bake a new bread for us.
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I well-fed my mashu and still get no servant though. Why is CE the one that get summoned.
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>>118978356
I would love it if we could give heroes their rigged NPs by ascending them.
>Artoria: Grants invul on self with a cooldown of 3
>Heracles: Heracles starts the battle with twelve stacks of Guts
>Achilles: can only be harmed by Sky-type enemies
>Medea: adds Kuzuki-sensei to the battlefield
>Iskandar: continuously adds servants to your party
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>>118978757
>>118978812
I never made the connection because I hardly ever look at Mashu, let alone her shield. I also focus my attention on the orbs in case they spark or change color. Like I said, Mashu or the shield is off my radar.
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>>118979090
You don't love her enough.
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>>118979170
I use her as my front team.
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>>118978079
>Marie and Attila being cute together
Never thought I'd see my team together like that. Saved
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>>118979101
That will be too much programming! Imagine the suffering of intern-kun.
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>>118979243
Should've set her as Leader, fed her Fous, and keep her in your room.
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>>118978712
Can he use that mask as a noble phantasm?
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>>118978419
Yeah but someone like Vlad still have LoD and Kazikli Bey, so it's probably NP that would be too broken in gameplay like GH.
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(ᴥʋ)
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>>118979643
Then Cu did all those things and came to the plains, right?
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Guys

New bread where
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So the maintenance is in an hour right?
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>>118979101
They won't do anything like that. This is a shitty cash grab so there is no reason for them to put any kind of effort in and attempt making this a good game.
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>>118977481
By Altera I'm assuming you mean Atilla. Who's Kiyo?
>>118977272
Further opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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>>118979809
Nasu always works hard on the story though. But I guess he's not in charge of gameplay features.
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>tfw 1 hour to get a single berserker monument
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>>118979892
Kiyo is the 2nd cutest berserker
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>>118978686
It's 20%, isn't it? Heaven's Feel is 40% unless you're a dirty fucking whale and maxed it out.
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>>118979967
>Nasu always works hard on the story
kek
He isn't even writing most of the story anyway.
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>>118979990
Fluffyposter, is that you?
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New
>>118980036

>>118980036
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>>118978029
It's a doujin called YuruZero by Shimazaki Kazumi. A Fate/Zero x Yuru Yuri crossover.

Plot is basically that short moment in-between the chant "Ol Keeper of the Balance" and the flash of white light at the beginning of Fate Zero the servants have to travel through the Yuru Yuri world first. A heart-warming story until Gil does Caster things and ruins the fun for everyone.
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>>118980021
Yes he is, he's lead scenario director and writer.
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>>118980241
He is only personally writing Fuyuki, Babylon and shit like the Artemis event.
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>>118980454
>he is only personally writing the most critical chapters of the plot and some extras
?
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So lewd
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>>118980586
>two chapters out of eight
>I don't know what most means
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>>118980731
He's probably still supervising the rest. He can work hard on the story without being the actual person to pen it.
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>>118980731
Writing for vidya isn't as simple as being the guy that puts down the text. Writing for vidya requires a lot more than one person.
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