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Next-gen Piss Edition

>Fallout 4 facts and speculations (Stop asking questions that can easily be answered with google or with link below)
http://pastebin.com/bYVyGttW (embed)

ALL MEGA LINKS ARE DEAD
>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository (Mods, Rips, etc):
http://pastebin.com/q5ryvSZc (embed)
>VGU (Rips):
http://pastebin.com/v1adFSwj (embed)
http://pastebin.com/S2eDehza (embed)

>General Information, Recommendations, Run Ideas, etc:
http://pastebin.com/8JVSmK0b (embed)

>Tinker with parts of the new leveling system:
Vault111.com

>Countdown until release
http://fo4countdown.com/

Pre-war thread: >>118654576
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>>118702536

Man, I always forget the embeds. Well tough shit.
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WHERE TO NEXT FGTS!
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>>118702515
Could be worse. According to http://imgur.com/a/UNKmT Ubi just released HOMM7 with no disc at all and lied about it. At least MGS5 got a frisbee out of the deal.
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>>118702656

TES6 in Hammerfell, FO5 somewhere cold. North Dakota + parts of Canada?
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>>118702613
>these speeds
how the fuck?

Do you live AT the server?
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>>118702656
Motha fockin Hawaii yisss
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>>118702750

It's not like they can actually do anything with those gigabit Uni connections.
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>>118702656
Seattle or Detroit with trips to parts of Canada
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>>118702750
I have a gigabit port in my apartment/condo.

Just went through a really long process of getting it installed, third part company installs fibre in the basement, runs fibre up the service riser into a distribution switch and run cat5e straight into my property.

End result is 1Gb down 1Gb up, all for myself, not been able to saturate it.

>>118702818
It's personal. https://hyperoptic.com/
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>>118702782

>tfw nothing to eat but fish and Cram

>>118702876

Already got the main game, hoping we still can pirate the DLCs.
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>>118702857
>Detroit
Why.

Like, Seattle I get, New Orleans I get, Chicago I get, but why Detroit?

>>118702719
What the fuck is in North Dakota to set a game around?
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>>118702656

As per norm:

Bethesda will choose some dumb location on the east coast where irrelevant faggots live.

Obsidian will pick somewhere West Coast where real people of consequence live.

And everyone knows that while the East coast are do-nothing blowhards, they still don't suck as much as middle America (Vegas excluded). So, there will be no middle America fallout. Probably somewhere like Washington (Seattle/Portland).
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>>118702937

Ah you're one of the lucky few then, it's sad how for most people that's still not an option even if they wanted it. Best you can get here is 350MB.

>>118702940

In Fallout universe? ND can have whatever they want.
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>>118702656
Seattle, it's the most obvious choice if there's going to be another west coast game/follow up to New Vegas

I can only hope
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>>118702938
Might not be as easy as drag-and-drop anymore, but who the hell knows. Maybe consoles hand them enough DLC money that it makes up for torrent babies.
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>>118703037

350Mb*, that is.
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>>118703037
Not him but 3/NV/4 all have recognizable set-pieces to kick the Americana button. I mean, what's North Dakota's Washington Monument/Hoover Dam/Revere Monument? What are you going to put in a trailer?
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>>118702953
>Obsidian will pick somewhere West Coast where real people of consequence live.
the only people I know of who live on the west coat are self-important Hollywood movie stars and other people who contribute nothing but mindless distractions.


>hey still don't suck as much as middle America (Vegas excluded). So, there will be no middle America fallout.
This however I can agree on.

Even Obsidian seems to think middle America sucks. They
-Entirely level Salt Lake City.
-Let the White Legs destroy New Canaan
-Made Denver abandoned and overrun by feral dogs
-Made nothing is going on in New Mexico
-Treated Tuscon and Phoenix as "yeah they exist but are boring" cities.
-Most of the Northwest, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, is still largely empty/ruined wastelands that the Khans might possibly build an empire out of in short time because there's nothing up there to oppose them.

To add to this
-North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma will never appear(again) in a Fallout game, as there is just shit in them.
-Iowa and Wisconsin are in the same boat
-Minnesota is likely in the same boat, though, if they run out of other places to do, we mght get Fallout: Minneapolis at some point.
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>>118703243

Sooner or later you'll run out of those locations though. And then you either start doing original content for the landmarks, or recycle the same locations over and over again.

And IMO it'd be a refreshing change to get a location not as instantly recognizable for once. Games are always doing NY, LA etc., give me some anonymous small towns that're the real heart of America, instead.
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>>118703445
Not him but, at the rate we see new Fallout games, todd would be 120 before we even get close to running out of big American cities.
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>>118703401
Denver's salvageable in its current state, but in the long run I think they'll quietly retcon dogpocalypse. Most of their current audience isn't even aware and the area's too interesting to shitcan.

>>118703445
I agree that we don't need another NY or LA, but the problem with an anonymous small town is, well, it's anonymous. Fuckall of interest to start with. Loses any value of starting from a real-world location, know what I mean?
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>>118703776
What exactly makes Denver so interesting?

It lacks the history of places like D.C. and Boston, and I can't think of some immediately identifiable cultural tick like Vegas had.

I only know of Denver because people go to ski a lot in Colorado... but that's about it.

And given that they have been trying to dogify Denver since Van Buren, I don't think they will change it.
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>>118703776

Sure, there's that. But you can always write it to be interesting, fill it with engaging characters and stories and as I'm typing this I'm just realizing it's Bethesda we're talking about so that will never happen.

Yeah, best they stick to the locations that people can recognize.
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>>118703776
Why not go outside of the country altogether? China got hit, we know that. What about the rest of the world? Canada?
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>>118703401

Actually, the west coast is basically responsible for all of American progress since about the 1960s.

Apple, Microsoft, Amazon.com, Facebook, etc. California alone would be the 8th largest economy in the world.

All the east coast has is old money, dead ideas, and trust fund babies. People who are corporate slaves and do nothing of real value, just try to pretend like they are doing real work while the west coast carries them.
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>>118703908

Main location would still need to be in the US, the Fallout brand of americana is just too deeply entrenched into the whole series to function without it. As a DLC though, sure.
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>>118703884
Glass motherfucking Mountain, innit? The mother of all vaults. A local could tell you more about the more conventional tourist traps.
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>>118704007
We already got that in Tactics, the MwBoS turned it into thier main fortress.
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>>118703908
While I would love a 70s-themed post-apoc Fallout: London, it'll never happen. Not after Hellgate ruined it for everyone. It's too far out of the comfort zone for the market.
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>>118704007

Stargate was a sweet show.
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>>118704007
If I wanted to play a game running around underground tunnels all the time I'd play Metro 2033. That shit got depressing fast.

It's nice to be outside in an open world, I'd fear there would be too much time spent creating a massive underground world, and not much to do outside.
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>DR% only armor is back
>No DT armor will exist even when the GECK comes out because consolefags can't implement it
Feels bad, man.
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>>118704128

>Ghoul geezer gangs with thick cockney accents

It'd be something alright.
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>>118704238
Aside: you should play Metro 2033 for longer, then. You get aboveground pretty quickly.
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>>118704339
>DT was so broke Sawyer gave all medium and heavy armors DR in his mod so that they would actually be useful.
>People are sad a damage reduction system that the game's own leader designer said didn't work is getting replaced by one that did.
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>>118704339

Might still be able to add it back with mods, won't know until we get access to the files. The DR is a three figure number now, isn't it? So that's something at least.
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>>118704426
All you fucking had to do was use Med-X, Slasher, and Battle Brew. They were there the whole fucking time.
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>>118704426
DT + DR > DT > DR
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>>118704453
its probably going to use Skyrim's DR system, where like 567 = 80% DR.
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>>118704385
I've finished both of them, thought they were good, but I'd be worried about it getting depressing too quickly.

Always looked forward to getting out of the vaults in the FO games when I'd been in there a while.
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>>118704496
NA its DR + DT > DR > DT

DR can work on its own, even if it is horribly simplistic, NV proved DT cannot work on its own, and needs DR to prevent medium and heavy armors from becoming worthless.
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>>118704590
Agreed. I wouldn't want to lock the player away. Though - if we ignore Tactics, and I do, because I haven't played it - having Cheyenne half-torn apart by relentless bombardment, exposing a big chunk of NORAD to the elements, would be flippin' sweet to wander around. You could have your vault and horizon, too.
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>>118704608
>needs DR to prevent medium and heavy armors from becoming worthless.
USE THE FUCKING CHEMS
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>>118704758
>having to use items to make high end armor not worthless.
If you don't see how that's a problem, then you are blind.

No other game does that, because that's fucking retarded and illogical.

Medium and Heavy armor should deflect noticeably more amounts of damage then light armor just be design.

That they did not is why DT is broken, and why Sawyer changed it.
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>>118698146
Probably. It'll definitely run. Can you play Battlefront at a decent FPS?
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Should be ok for fo4, 60+fps right?
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>>118705230
Yeah sure you'll be fine.
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>>118704751

I think a cool premise for a Fallout game would be a game set 100 years after Tactics, where you travel to the mid-west only to find that it's completely barren of the Brotherhood of Steel.
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>>118704608
DR was completely worthless in Fallout 3, it practically didn't do anything at all.
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>>118703929
Not would be 8th, is. California is the 8th largest economy in the world. California props up the US economy, it's the only reason the USA was #1 on that chart for so long. We (Californians) are also bankrupt, and massively in debt, so there's that working for us.
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>>118705441
The best armor in Fallout 3 was VATS
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>>118705441
No it wasn't.

DR offers far more protection from late game weaponry then DT does.
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VATS+85% DR could knock a full-power Fat Man hit from 1600 down to 24 damage.
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>>118705708
The point of DT is to reduce nuisance damage to 0.
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>>118705836
When you're wearing power armor, or any good armor, the ability of piddling enemies and animals to damage you should become 0 so you can effortlessly kick the shit out of them at 0 risk to yourself unless they score a critical. So that means, among other things, 9mm and 10mm submachine guns, the things that fuck up low-level characters hard, should not be effective against you.
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>>118705836
DT didn't reduce damage to 0 in NV, it was capped at 20%.

Lowering the cap only breaks the balance of the game because then you become immune to the shitty weapons 90% of the populace logically has.
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>>118706098
>because then you become immune to the shitty weapons 90% of the populace logically has.
That is the literal purpose of armor.
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>>118706247
The purpose of armor in a video game is to reduce damage taken, to the point shit doesn't kill you in one hit, without reducing it so much that nothing bothers you.

Else you run into a case like the terribly balanced Fallout 1/2 Pa, that basically made the game have no challenge.

Which is why both DT and DR have caps of 80% damage negated.
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>>118706343

>Else you run into a case like the terribly balanced Fallout 1/2 Pa, that basically made the game have no challenge.

until a giant radscorpion or something crits you and you take like 900 damage in one hit and die

probably the best combat mechanics the world has ever known
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>>118706343
>without reducing it so much that nothing bothers you.
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>Else you run into a case like the terribly balanced Fallout 1/2 Pa, that basically made the game have no challenge.
There was plenty of shit in both games that could waste you even in the best power armor.
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>>118706247
>>118706343
Not either of you nerds but they can make it OP without breaking balance, because you won't be able to wear PA full-time anymore.
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>>118706343
What if I want to put on power armor and be invincible because its power armor?

A bb gun can kill someone in Power armor. Tell me with a straight face that that is realistic.
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>>118706470
But they're not. You will take damage from every single hit; only it'll be reduced by a fixed percentage which will never exceed 80%.
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>>118706470
>because you won't be able to wear PA full-time anymore.

Just because you can't *initially* do it (during that Minutemen intro quest we've seen parts of), doesn't mean you won't be able to later. The more advanced versions of Power Armor were largely self-sustaining in terms of power so the fusion cell excuse won't fly. And if they try it, someone'll just mod it out because fuck that shit.
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>>118706483
Its not, but gameplay systems are not about realism, they are about abstractions.
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>>118706483

the only problem with power armor in new vegas is that you can kinda run straight to the BoS and get training after a few quests

i think fallout 3's armor ended up being a more balanced game element, even though you only had it for like the last 5 minutes of the fucking game
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>>118706618
You can get PA the moment you get to the citadel, which, if you skip the Megaton and GNR main quests, you can do like 3 hours in of a 100 hour game.

Or just do OA and get it in like 2 hours form game start.
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>>118706608

>The more advanced versions of Power Armor were largely self-sustaining in terms of power so the fusion cell excuse won't fly.

The T-60 suit you get in the Minutemen intro is literally THE "more advanced" version. We also see that the fusion core in the back can move the suit with ease, but loses energy when you use certain things (like the jetpack)
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>>118706694

Bullshit it is if it needs to recharge from disposable batteries. Sticking with my obviously superior T-51b, thanks.
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>>118706781
i think all of them are going to need batteries.

Even in Fallout 1 its said the T-51 battery was only designed to last 100ish years, and its been 200.
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>>118706608
>someone'll just mod it out
What does that have to do with anything? You're not proving a resource economy is broken by cheating in an infinite amount of that resource, you're just proving you're a child.
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>>118706781

>T-51b

look at this faggot in his shit tier standard issue

i'll be using T-51f thanks
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>>118706953
>using pleb tier pre-war power armor
I will be using X-01 Mk VI power armor myself.

Post-war armor for a post-war world
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>>118706835

Ok so if we need just one battery per armor, that's fine I guess. Though since the battery tech in Fallout universe is so obviously better than ours, do they even discharge on their own if not used?
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>>118707071
I doubt it going to be just one battery per armor.

That would be too easy.

With all the shit they changed about PA, you are going to have to replace the battery over time.
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>>118707071

In the gameplay exploration video, the PC has 1 fusion core in his T-60, which he wears down by about 5% by doing the entire Minuteman intro fight.
He also has 11 extra cores on hand.

I suppose we could assume that the size of T-60 (literally twice as big as T-45) means that it uses more energy to power the hydraulics and shit.

Hopefully T-51 is the most fuel efficient. Although the Enclave armor >>118707049 will probably be the most fuel efficient
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>>118707216
Out of all the changes Bethesda has made, I think I actually like the PA changes for Fo4.

PA actually looks like... PA.
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Just noticed that the PA UI has a dial that lights up and says "SPOT" whenever an enemy sees you

pretty neat
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>>118707739

pic related
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>>118707216
>literally twice as big as T-45
Power armor in F4 seems to be built around the same exoskeleton-base, onto which you can throw different armor components, so there really isn't a size difference between the variants.
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>Shitload of games on Steam
>PS4 with 20 games
>Bored with everything and waiting for FO4
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>>118707739
>>118707846

Wonder if you can change the UI with different PA parts? That'd be sweet.

Real nice detail on those water droplets too, about time.
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>>118707883

Yes. Same skeleton, bigger armor.

Look at the helmet, for instance.
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>>118676552
I think that mods should meet a certain criteria before having the option to slap a price-tag on them.

>Entirely unique content.
>Generally positive verified reviews over the course of two months.
>File size increases the amount of money you can charge at rate of $1/1GB.
>Modders are obligated to fix ANY AND ALL bugs determined by the community to be caused by the Modder's product, lest their license be revoked.

This ensures that only the best Modders have the right to charge for their work, while also enforcing proper workmanship.
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>>118708273

T-60 kinda reminds me of a gorilla.
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>>118708273

Did they mix up the two? T-60 torso looks more like the T-51b than it does. Fucking Bethesda.
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>>118708359
He mixed the two up. The one you're talking about is the T-51B
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>>118708630
The guy who made the .gif probably picked the wrong frames.
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>>118708359
T51 remaining best looking armor. Fuck Bethesda for making it worse than the T60APA is second for looksat least its better than the T60
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>>118708630
>>118708664


The green text is reversed because the frames I took from the video were "buffer frames" where other models were loading but the old ones were still there. The text was just quicker in changing. If that makes sense.
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>>118708759

Ok yeah, that's fine then. Not that I don't like the T-60 torso, but it would've been weird to "retcon" the iconic PA like that.
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>>118708759
Okay then.
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Regarding the Power Armors, do we know whether there'll be full armor paint jobs, or if it's just some overlay stuff on the existing base skins?
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>>118708984
Retextures, probably. Piece-by-piece.
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>>118708984

These colors don't run. Outcasts Forever, Forever Outcasts.
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>>118709276

T-45 looks really fucking good in 4, especially compared to 3/NV garbage.

Painting it red would probably ruin the dank aesthetic
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>>118708273
>>118707883
Doesn't this kind of negate the entire point of the T51 having better everything than it's predecessor? Servos, powerplant, the lot?
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>>118708315
>who's doing the sanity checks?
>who's watching for shill reviews? How is that fair when the bulk of downloaders never rate what they're using?
>who's checking for inflated file sizes, or 1 MB of content coupled with 1024 MB of uncompressed skybox downloaded from images.google.com?
>who monitors this? What's their service level? How do you avoid witch hunts and vote brigading? What do you do when a patch breaks a mod?

I get that you're saying "mods should be regulated", but the logistics are not so simple and regulation sits about as comfortably as taxation.

It'll be interesting to see what controls get put in place for the xbox mods, because I'll bet you anything that same structure will end up applied to paid mods down the line...
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>>118702515
>Whats the point to having a disc if it doesnt have the games files on it?

I dunno, but MGSV pulled that shit. Physical edition has nothing but steam installer on it, you wasted money and time getting physical with that game

I swear to god if FO4 pulls the same shit
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>>118709615
No, T-51 was the most advanced issued armor.

T-60A was in prototype stage, and T60B-f are post war armors
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>>118709615

The problem is that we don't know the specifics of any actual armor.

T-51 is made of a poly composite, has a coating to stop lasers and radiation, has full waste recycling, and runs on a fusion core.
T-45 runs on small energy cells. We don't know what it's made of.

People like to say that T-45 is made of steel and is therefor weaker, but there's no documentation to prove this.
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>>118709752
So far the only stuff Bethesda has said they are going to filter is porn and illegal game rips and shit.
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>>118709764

They probably won't, but it won't matter to me since hopefully it will have preload. I don't want to wait 2-3 days downloading before I can play.

But if it doesn't have preload 4-5 days before game comes out, I will be a little gripy.
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>>118710039
Skyrim had preload, so the odds are good.
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>>118709939
Riveted steel which contributes to its weight. Bethesda kind of fucked up their T51 model by adding rivets, I'm not entirely sure but you probably wouldn't see rivets on composite ceramic plating.
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>>118710195
Greebling, greebling never changes.
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>>118709949

Can you imagine the controversy once adult mods eek their way to consoles?

>"Teen caught playing game with his large breasted female player character he made get raped repeatedly by demons with large claws. Parent is suing the game company who made this demon rape simulator possible."
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Should I even bother trying to play FO4?
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>>118710274
uhhh your pc is fine m8
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>Bethesda remove traits when making Fallout 3
>Obsidian adds them back in New Vegas
>Bethesda takes them out again for Fallout 4

>Bethesda removes DT when making Fallout 3
>Obsidian adds it back in New Vegas
>Bethesda takes it out again for Fallout 4
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>>118710261
They already said no nude or copy right mods, retard. It's using a controlled market place
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>>118710195
Gotta attach them somehow. Armor plates are meant to be replaced.
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>>118710331

Obsidian adds it all back in again in Fallout: New Seattle
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>>118710343

They also said it would be "Just like PC" when it comes to modding, so maybe they could download shit from Loverslab and Nexus to get their titty mods.
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>Could never finish FO1 due to super mutants destroying my party and I. Saves are long gone

Should I play FO2? I'm not sure if they're connected in story, I was at the very end of FO1 from what I recall.
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>>118710331
>mods put them back in 3
>mods made it work better in NV
>mods ... in 4
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>>118710195

>Riveted steel which contributes to its weight

So if T-51 in FO3 has rivets and is made of polymer, how can you be certain that T-45 (which has rivets in FO3) is made of steel? The way it looks?

What about the fact that in Operation Anchorage, T-51 looks like it's made of steel that has been covered in a snow camouflage coating?

Power Armor lore is completely fucked up as it is
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>>118710448
The whole point of traits is that they give your character weaknesses with their strengths, which perks don't do.
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>>118710331
>most traits are -5% to skill X, +5% to skill Y
>skills are now ranked
>if you want to add a rank to perk Y and not to perk X knock yourself out

No comment on the DT. I wouldn't care if they switched to THAC0 as long as I know which to wear and which to sell.
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>>118710354
Guess you're right.

>>118710439
I'm pretty sure they mentioned Beth.net would be consoles' only source of mods

I doubt MS or Sony would allow Bethesda to allow users to drop any old files off a thumbdrive onto the console, filesystem access no matter how small leads to consoles being busted wide open eventually.

Beth.net will probably be the only way to get mods into the game, which means all the good mods that actually do stuff will remain PC exclusive
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who /nudist/
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>>118710526
Those weaknesses never matter past level 5 though.

Just like birthsigns in TES, which is why those got axed as well.
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>>118710274
No, you're fucked, go play TF2.
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>>118710708
>Those weaknesses never matter past level 5 though.
What? How is it any different.
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Is the GoG version of Fallout 2 censored? I know the first game is, but it has a fix. Is there a fix for FO2?
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>>118710684
I kinda hope you can take it out like that. Even if it's severely nerfed as a result.
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>>118710826
Damn, you're up early.
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>>118710826
>Removing a broken system that didn't do much of anything and not caring the same as Bethesda removing the literal core gameplay system that works fine and not caring.
Nice false equivalence.
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>>118710920
I bet that's exactly what you would say if they removed SPECIAL
>Guys, SPECIAL was a broken system anyway, it's so much better now without it :)
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>>118710826
>>118710985
Ohh look, its THIS guy again.
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>>118710815
The glasses thing might be okay, if they made it so the glasses were easily broken in combat. You could add 'em as an extra feature in chargen.
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>>118711124
Says the guy who keeps forcibly trying to bring up shitposting about about NV using DT every thread when it's completely irrelevant and has been proven wrong.
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R8 my Char, which is based off me as close as i could
Post yours
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>finish Minuteman intro
>find new town
>New Nipton discovered (+00010 XP)
>turn corner
>entire street is decimated
>corpses hang over every ledge, blood flowing into road
>dead babies impaled on pikes and shit
>spot 5 Brotherhood of Steel paladins in T-60 at the other end of the street
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Does fallout 4 have ammo reloading?
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>>118711313
What's up with the negative SPECIALs? Are you in a coma?
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>>118711371
It's - Stat +
http://newvegas.vault106.com/
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>>118711362
Who knows? Like hardcore mode, we've got nothing to go on one way or the other.
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>>118711350
>mfw

About time those guys realized what's truly important.
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>>118711313
>not going dumb yet lucky brawler build
Me smash stuff gud
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>>118707739
No, that's the spotlight on the helmet drawing power.
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>>118711754
ffs it better not. Even I'll mod out that bullshit.
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>>118711817
It does. You see the power gauge go down very slowly during the sequence while the spotlight is on. All of the add-ons draw power.
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>>118711884
Yeah but do we know that's not from the PA moving around?
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>>118712021
You also see it drain from the jetpack. The power gauge isn't the limit on the duration of use of power armor; the durability of the armor itself is. The power gauge only decreases when you use the extras.
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>>118704339
Yay
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>>118712158
Hrm. I'll have to see for myself when the time comes. I'd rather have movement-based power drain (wonder if the minigun counts as an extra?) than allow spotlights to drain fusion cores.
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>>118707216
>fuel efficiency
who cares, power armor can carry enough fuel to last 100 years
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>>118712375
post yfw these numbers are inflated and worthless
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>>118712538
post yfw those numbers were pulled out of someone's ass and aren't relevant to anything
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>>118712158

I doubt a torch is more power consuming than an entire hydraulic sub-system.

I could understand with the jetpack though, if they use Iron Man sciencemagic to turn electricity into fire.
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>>118712695
These are the Skyrim armor ratings.
They're still valid now.
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>>118711691
>10 in any stat
:^)
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>>118712757
It's a video game.

But fine, be stupid and disbelieve me.
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>>118712768
But this is Fallout 4 not skyrim
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>>118712872
Does "190" mean anything in terms of damage resistance if they're not using the same math?
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>>118712757

>run out of fusion cores
>no way to manually open suit from inside
>game over
>fallout1/2-esque ending slide shows raiders prying open the suit and removing your boiled corpse
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>>118712853
It's precisely because it's a video game that I doubt the spotlight drains power. Jetpack major drain = balance, movement minor drain = balance. Spotlight drain is unnecessary. This isn't Doom 3 or Alan Wake, light jes ain't a gameplay element.
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>>118712794
Is this pointless because you can just level them later?
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>GAME is doing a Steelcase edition
>There's also a limited Edition of the guide
Fuck, i kinda wanna preorder both
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>>118712757
It's a fusion reactor. Power Armor in Fallout is powered by a Micro-Fusion Plant. For reference, in case you're wondering you're not, Sol The Sun is a giant fusion reaction.
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>>118713050
Yeah, 9 in any stat is usually the recommended maximum, unless it's known that you can gain more or don't need anything for the good perks
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>>118713067
>tfw missed out on pip boy edition
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>>118713163
Who cares about a shitty plastic case that can't even hold a Iphone 6s+?
Make your own or commission one.
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>>118702656
Next West Coast Entry:
Fallout: Seattle

Next East Coast Entry:
Fallout: Miami
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>>118713163
>tfw missed out on a cheap piece of plastic
I always wonder what people are going to do with those things for the 99.9998% of their lives that aren't spent at conventions or Halloween. Put it above your door, crossed with your collector's edition portal gun?
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>>118713132

Yes. It's powered by microfusion.

So why would a spotlight drain a significant amount of CORE power?

Keep in mind that weapons also use microfusion and expel the entire energy output in a few shots.

also

>ever saying Sol
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>>118713260
I couldn't fit my iPhone 6s+ in it? Well, never mind, I'll just use the app anyway.

Did look neat though, if a waste of money.
>>
180+280+130+130+130+130=980 is the armor rating of the T-60 unmodified

The numbers are even less fucking meaningful than Skyrim's.
>>
So are Energy weapons In Gunslinger and Commando and Rifileman?
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>>118713383
Because you're a fucking subhuman. The core in question is powering the entire suit. For gameplay purposes, using the special add-ons drains energy, thus limiting your ability to use those add-ons. It does not limit movement.
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>meet a nonhostile behemoth along the coast
>get closer, his name is Stormalong
>a tentacle whips out from the waves and drags him down
>get into your PA and dive in
>a mighty battle in the depths
>the SS manages to free the beast
>your town now has its own mutie behemoth protecting it
>mfw
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JSawyer + CCO + TTW

The way it's meant to be played.
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>>118713596
yes. looks like skills are broken up by weapon type in terms of whether it's a long gun, pistol, automatic, or single-shot, etc.
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>>118713596
Rumors say yes. An automatic weapon is an automatic weapon regardless of the payload.
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>>118713751
>>118713797
Oh Okay Thank you.
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>>118713640

so for gameplay purposes a fusion core can power an entire suit indefinitely but can't run a flashlight for more than 5 minutes without being replaced

10/10
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>>118713664
tbh I'd rather have the tentacle.
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>>118713890
You should kill yourself, because that's literally why, yes. You can GO wherever you want in the power armor, until it takes so much damage the plates fall off. You cannot use the power for add-ons infinitely.
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>>118713557
?
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>>118714012
The maximum meaningful armor rating in Skrim was 570. It was equivalent to 80% damage reduction. Now we have here an armor with 980 armor rating which isn't even the best in its class. The numbers were inflated and became even more meaningless.
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>>118713984

why would lack of armored plates stop it from moving?

or are you saying that without armor it's vulnerable to being destroyed?
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>>118714109
it's obviously not going to use the same numbers, otherwise it would only make sense to use the lightest power armor available.
not even bethesda is this stupid.
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>>118711754
>spotlight
>drawing power
But why? Darkness has never been an issue in any of Beth's games, surely they realize this.
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>>118714163
Literally put a gun in your mouth. It loses its effectiveness as armor once the plates come off.

Now shut the fuck up and stop asking stupid fucking questions.
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>>118713383
Why wouldn't I call our star Sol? It is the name of our star. It doesn't magically become not-Sol when you're on Earth.

Also, it's a micro-fusion power plant. The cells are the reactors, you are swapping fusion reactors when you put a new one in. It was mentioned in several Fallouts that the reactors in Power Armor basically last for 100+ years, so whether we need to swap MFCs or not remains to be seen.
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>>118714314
Man, not him, but you need a hug.
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>>118714314

can you just sum up your points again so i can understand what you're trying to get across

because first you said that the suit stopped moving when the armor comes off

now you're saying it's just less effective when the armor comes off
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>>118714731
Kill yourself, faggot.
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>>118713890
Why would the flashlight drain all that much power? Hydraulic systems would take up much more power. When I originally quoted you in >>118713132, you were talking about how fusion = electricity, like the Iron Man Arc Reactor (not fusion).

Somewhat related question:
Have you ever played BattleTech? 'Mechs use fusion reactors and jump jets are quite literally and physically opening up exhaust ports from the fusion reaction to achieve lift. I don't see any reason why that wouldn't be the case here, aside from the reactors themselves being the MFCs.
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>>118714864

>Why would the flashlight drain all that much power? Hydraulic systems would take up much more power.

I already said this, lol

>I doubt a torch is more power consuming than an entire hydraulic sub-system.

the other anon that wants me to kill myself thinks that fusion cores have infinite power but can only power attachments for a limited time because gameplay purposes

he also thinks that armor makes things move
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I will always remember 10/9 as the day /fog/ was comfy for all of two hours before the NV/FO3 shitposting took hold.
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>>118715243
There are a few dedicated shitposters, as long as you can catch /fog/ between their hours of operation it's a chill place. God help us if they ever organize.
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Who's ready to go back down into the Deathclaw filled metros?
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morning /fog/

Looking for something to bridge the final gap before Fallout 4

is GTAV worth the 60 dollar price tag?
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>>118715627
What platform? I am sure you can get a steam key for a lot less.
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>>118715627
It's not.
Go replay FNV.
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>>118715616
I am I just hope we're not.forced to use them like in 3
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>>118715698

PC. Still 60 bucks on Steam.

>>118715735
I tried Anon, I really did.

I've just played it so much. I've got all the endings. I've found all the secret loot caches. There's nothing else to do.
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>>118715616
That's a parking garage friend. But I am ready to see what they did with the T, yes.

Fun fact: just about every business in Boston has a basement. Old town!
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>>118715779
Anon, this is bethesda we're talking about. At the first chance we get we'll be checked underground
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>>118715243
>>118715530
It's always the same dude shitposting the same things, and always targets New Vegas.
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>>118715789
Did you play Bounties? The third one just came out.

Metro? STALKER? Not to dissuade you from GTA5 but paying full price this long after release because you're bored...
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>>118715616

>deathclaws spread to boston
>need a dark, quiet place to breed
>find the metro stations
>start breeding down there
>hundreds of them fill up the train tunnels
>rise from the tunnels at the dawn of each day to feed on the unknowing
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>>118715789
TTW?


>>118715853
But anon the game looks so open
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>>118715853
Well fuck, I meant chucked underground, but that should be obvious
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>>118715616
I just hope the underground will be more varied and spoopy this time. Surely Bethesda got the feedback.

>>118715916
>STALKER
Speaking of, CoC is officially released. Still needs touching up here and there, but it's definitely playable.
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>>118716017
Typical that you'd try to turn it around even after all the anti-NV shitposting.
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>>118715965
>But anon the game looks so open
And Fallout 3 has over 300 endings!
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>>118716131

oh anon :^)
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>>118716069
Call of Cthulhu? O.o
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>>118716148

hi, rodd!
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I know /fog/ hate Fallout 1 and 2 but I really wish Bethesda kept some of the original designs. Ghouls used to look a lot cooler than they do now, and I hate that blatantly fake raspy voice they try to do.
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>>118715627
Replay Arcanum with me, MCA!
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See that tower, Dogmeat? You can climb it.
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Diamond city.
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>>118716902
What is this, a city for ants?
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>>118716902
>posting images for radroaches
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>>118716781
I hate FO1 and 2 so much I still have my original boxes from 1998.

>>118715789
Depends what itch you want to scratch. I really like most Rockstar games, but I can see where the mission structure would grate on some people. If you're just looking for an open world game, you could try the new mad max game. It's not bad at all and keys are going on ebay for less than $30.
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>>118716897
I wonder if there's a pad on top for the vertibird?
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>>118716902

Okay, are you the guy who keeps posting fucking thumbnails.

STOP MAN. Just open the fuckin image before you save it!
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>>118716781

Jesus christ. You can see his windpipe.

Thank god I stole their water chip.
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>>118716960
>>118716978
>>118717087

It doesn't look any better.
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>>118716897
>be on top of building
>"dogmeat go get that"
>dog throws self from building
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is anyone else going to shoot that dumb nigger preston in the face as soon as you meet him and his fuckaround gang?
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>>118717018

Finished the Mad Max game not too long ago. It was alright. Really monotonous towards the end. And Max becomes a huge dickhead for no reason.
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>>118717156
Well we can actually make out the image now.
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>>118717186
>Preston is Unconscious
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>>118717192

he was always a huge dickhead

he basically ignored that woman throughout the entire game because he cared so much about based v8
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>>118717087
>>118716978
>>118716960
Diamond City.
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>>118717278

dat low res vault booty next to the mister handy
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>>118717018
There's always Saint's Row. 2 is a poorly-optimized gem, 3 is a better-optimized funfair, and 4 trades everything in for superpowers, losing a lot in the translation. All of 'em have full co-op and outstanding character customization.

Not something I'd normally bring up in /fog/, but if you're in a GTA mood...
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If this game doesn't have silenced shotguns I'm going to be mad.
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>>118716781
/fog/ doesn't hate fallout 1 and 2. Faggots do.
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>>118717441
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>>118717441

It does.

It'll probably also a have third base
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>>118717441
Silenced shotguns are the fucking worst.
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>>118717278
Diamond City.

At night.
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>>118717406
>losing a lot in the translation
That was 3
> All of 'em have full co-op and outstanding character customization.
SR2 still has the best CaC
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>>118717608
I respectfully disagree.
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>>118717747
Still looks like a shit hole.
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>>118717821
Is it better than Megaton?
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>>118717747
Where did that shot come from?
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>>118717909
Anything is better than Megaton.
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>>118717254
>>118717186

"Stop! I yield!"
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>>118717909

>disabled old guy playing car-rim guitar

ayy
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>>118717909
Hard to say, looks like they recycled most of the layouts. It'll depend heavily on whether or not they've recycled the same shit character archetypes.
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>>118717964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5esyZPt5Jo&index=18&list=PLSHdOA4o6T_fdEQXP5sW2UHXx9kRgMzwQ

13:30
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>>118718054
>looks like they recycled most of the layouts

In the concept art I saw a junk yard where people lived under piles of cars and shit which is cool

i also saw a freight ship that people lived onto of which is not so cool
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>>118717973
Even Van Burens Hoover dam?
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>>118718343

Okay, that's a neat design for the Hoover Dam, but is it just me or is the scale totally fucked? Isn't the Hoover damn massive?
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>>118718343
>early 00s design aesthetics

Not even once, anon.
>>
i3 3110M 2.4ghz
HD Radeon 8670M 1 Gb
8 go RAM

Can i at least hope for a medium, lowered resolution game to run ?
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>>118718195
Sonofagun I'd forgotten these clips aren't in the stuff they've put up on their channel. Thanks, friend.
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>>118718530
With sufficient lube... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Nsyog4WXc
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>>118717973
Megaton is silly on many levels, and it's annoying to navigate, but it looks fantastic. They put some time in.
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>>118718885
>samey buildings everywhere you look
>shit brown color to everything
>reminder of the stupid conceit of the town at the very heart

thanks, anon. but you can keep it.
>>
>>118718885

this reminded me of a question i wanted to ask

why is there a crater there if the bomb didn't go off?
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>tfw Fallout is becoming skyrimized

Watching F4 unfold is like unwrapping a shit onion.
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>>118719212
?
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>>118718885

You know, Megaton's layout isn't really logical, but I'm totally cool with it. Because Fallout isn't logical.

If you want Fallout with logic, play STALKER
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>>118705230
Are you me? I have the exact same build.
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>>118719208
Dunno. Maybe they set off one bomb and then dropped another bomb in the crater.
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>>118719208
Physical impact crater, most of these bombs would have been air burst.
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>>118719327
Yes
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>>118719208
this is the best bait ive seen in years. my hats off to you faggot
>>
My only problem with Megaton is the bomb itself.

It makes no sense why there's a fatman style bomb dropped on DC. Didn't we establish that ICBMs are used by the US and China?

I always took the launching of the nukes to be a really sudden spark of the moment thing, and as soon as launches were detected the other side launched theres.

Unless there was a Dr. Strangelove situation where a Chinese Bomber was constantly flying around the US coast, it would take hours for a plane to be equipped, take off, arrive at DC, and drop the bomb.
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>>118719387
Why not the atomic version of an earthquake bomb like the Tallboy?
It would make sense: the bomb didn't destroy on impact, but it dug itself in the ground (as intended), but it didn't go off.

Beside, I like the idea behind Megaton, but the execution is really poor.
>>
>>118717018

Addendum: I'm tempted to get it for the online play, which I hear is chaotic but fun.
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>>118719717
It would have made more sense on the West Coast, yeah. I guess you could say maybe it's an American bomb that was dropped / lost in the confusion. E.G. one of those long range strat bombers was taking off from the DC area when the apocalypse happened and lost its payload before it was armed. I don't want to defend Megaton anymore so I'm tapping out.
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>>118719917
I played tons of the RDR multiplayer, but this one didn't click for me.
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>>118719717
During the Cold War it became clear that in case of a sudden nuclear strike, it was vital, in order to win the nuclear war, to be able to retaliate with a second strike. To do this, you had to protect your nuclear arsenal, and bombers always in flight at two hours maximum from any possible target was a very good solution, which we can assume was employed also by the chinese in the Fallout universe.

By the way, the bombers thing was called Operation Chrome Dome. Also, I suggest you to watch the documentary First Strike, it should be on YouTube.
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>>118720218
isn't mega made from an air port or miltary base or some shit, maybe it was already there. maybe a bomb hit then it rolled into the crater. it says on it that it's a vault tech bomb
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>yfw the bomb is a hoax designed to keep megaton in competition with tenpenny
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>>118717360
>[Deleted]
Is /fog/ really such a Bethesdrone hive that you guys mass report posts that say anything nice about any Fallout game other than 3?
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>>118720647
That's a lot of effort for a hoax.
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>>118721068
wouldnt the blast from the bomb have killed you and tenpenny?
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>>118721068
I hated Fallout 3 until I reloaded my save and nuked Megaton then let the ghouls into Tenpenny Tower. I only wish I could have sealed Little Lamplight shut.
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>>118721068
Goddammit anon, now I want to replay that game just to blow up that nuke.
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>>118721209
Fallout nukes, lower-yield, yadda yadda yadda.

>>118721274
Last time I played, some combination of mods removed the mushroom cloud. Sound effects, screen shake, but no visual FX whatsoever. Felt bad man.
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>>118702656
New Jersey, easy access to New York and Phili, not to mention Camden which is currently a crime ridden hellhole similar to Detroit and has the battleship New Jersey. Imagine a city filled with raiders who control a battleship whose guns they use to fire on neighboring towns and cities if they don't pay tribute in goods, money, and slaves. Main plot could involve the raiders, the battleship, of some major city in New Jersey or bordering it. Bonus points if you could through various actions become the leader of raider controlled Camden.
>>
Was the E3 footage actually shown on an XB1, or just with an XB1 controller?

Is there a possibility what we saw was already shown with high res textures that Beth will be releasing separately, or am I being too pessimistic here
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>>118722078
>mfw there's some sort of flying, fire-breathing deathclaw variant in the NJ Pine Barrens
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>>118721209
That bomb had the dimensions of a tzar bomb so it was in the range of the tens of megatons. However it's probable most of the nuclear fuel inside decayed over time greatly reducing its effectiveness; after all 200 years passed since that bomb was dropped.
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>>118719717

Vault-Tec dropped the first set of bombs.

They were in cahoots with the Enclave, who supplied them with everything they needed/wanted, including weapons grade uranium/plutonium and FEV.
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>>118721209
don't question scale, open world games massively fuck with scale, perspective, and movement speeds
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>>118722301

It's already been established that the Fallout world never saw anything on the scale of the Tsar Bomba. "Tactical" nukes were in the range of like 5-7 kilotons.

Makes sense that the Sole Survivor survived too.
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Why have they only shown the E3 video, trailer and these vault boy animations?

DO THEY LIKE BLUE BALLING US?
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>>118722271
"Who knows", but: just with an xbone controller. I can't see them showing off textures higher than what consoles will be receiving on launch.

I also don't see them offering an Ultra texture pack up front, but there might be one later if they get bored. Also, mods. tbh the textures being presented are fine. This was never going to be Crysis.
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>>118722589

>I also don't see them offering an Ultra texture pack up front

They released the Skyrim one two months after they released the base game. They might even do it more quickly this time around
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>>118722576
Because marketing, anon. They are maintaining your hype levels and they're doing a good job.
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>>118722536
Well, then Beth fucked things up.
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There better be an unlimited fuel source for t-51b, because otherwise this is complete lore break
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>>118722791

It's still plausible. As the other anons brought up before, China might've had bombers stationed in the Atlantic and Pacific.
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>>118722707
All things are possible!
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>>118722291
Quest to kill the Jersey Devil? I'm in.
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who blunderbuss here
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>>118722885
I was referring to the size of the bomb.
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>>118722291

>tfw growing up in Jersey I was horrified of the Jersey Devil
>tfw I'd close my eyes when we were driving through the pine barrens
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>>118723315

It's a musket.

And, to answer your question, me. Really like the laser musket. My hope is that it's powerful enough to justify the cranking. Like, you get one shot, but damn does it hit hard.
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>>118723325

maybe china was really shit at making nukes
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>no adult or nude mods

did they actually say this, or merely imply it? In what context - for consoles, through their distribution system (bethesdanet), at all ever since the only way to apply mods will be through their distribution system...?

Also, what kind of mods would even be available for consoles? I can't see you choosing higher-res textures or script-heavy mods with set hardware

I think pirates can find a way, but they can definitely make it hard. For all the praise the devs (including Todd himself) have lavished on mods, they better not fuck this up for us
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>>118723448

It's a musket with a short barrel and a scattering muzzle

basically a blunderbuss alright
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>>118723448
It's growing on me a little. I didn't like the design at first, still don't, but I can't deny it sounds good. POOON.
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>>118723564

It's a musket. It shoots one shot at a time.

Just because it has a short barrel and some bullet spread doesn't make it a blunderbuss.

Trust me on this, I'm actually an 18th century time traveler
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>>118723325
Fallout nukes are highly inefficient, the little slingshot nukes should kill the player outright simply because the range is too short. The fact that you cannot be killed by the blast unless you try shows how inefficient their nukes are.
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>>118723526
It was in an interview. Go look for it.
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>>118723651

The sound it makes when you charge it up is pretty nice too
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>>118723453
All right, but then how did they managed to pack them on ICBMs?
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>>118723651

I can't wait for the setup before running into a room.

>crank
>Crank
>CRANK
>"Let's go pal"
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>>118723817

alright anon you win

bethesda made the nuke too big

but maybe it was a chinese stylistic choice to scare filthy capitalist
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>>118723802

Speaking of, do you guys think Bethesda will have a weapon more overpowering than the Fatman in FO4? It'd seem the Experimental MIRV would be kinda hard to top.
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>>118723809
Yeah, that's some good sound design. I could never get along with the railway rifle but I'm pretty sure I could jam with this for prolonged periods of time.

I'm just having a hard time accepting a laser primed with a hand-crank. Also I'm that guy who doesn't like the Minutemen cosplay so, y'know, hard sell.
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What do you guys think life in Prewar China was like? Just before the end.
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>mfw NMA and anti-Bethesda elitists are literally Lynette
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>>118723973

shoulder mounted Gauss Rifle

fires a 12.7x99mm depleted uranium cored round at MACH 7
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One more long month to go.
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>>118723973
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>>118724162

You know how the last 30 minutes of a really long car trip seems to go by at a snails pace?
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>>118724075
>Thread full of anti-New Vegas shitposting
>Still have the nerve to complain about "anti-Bethesda"
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>>118724145
>fires a 12.7x99mm depleted uranium cored round at MACH 7
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>>118724062
Exactly like nowadays, but with less pollution.
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Why is the sexout installation so fucking complicated?
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>>118724062
They were in the middle of being invaded by the US, so pretty shitty. Only Europe and Africa would have been worse.
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>>118724145
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>>118724478

>Implying Africa would have even noticed the resource shortage
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>>118724341

Because all the LL trash is shoddily coded hacky crap.
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>tfw haven't seen any modded laser/plasma capacitors or pistol/rifle receivers

the only one we've seen is the fucking pipe rifle receiver that makes it into a .45 revolver
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http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/b/bf/Fallout_4_perk_poster.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150924171206

Gigantic version (4 098px × 6 100px) of the perk poster.
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Write something that would scare you if it happened when you first booted up Fallout 4.

shit like
>5 gig day one patch
>hardware issues
>save wipes
>shit game mechanics
>it just works
>memes
>muh equality
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>>118724815

>gradually upgrade plasma pistol until it turns into a Tesla Cannon that runs on power armor fusion cells
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>>118724996
Did someone vectorize the one we had, or is this an official release?
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>>118725023
>someone throws a rock through my window
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>big superpower loses conventional war
>nothing stopping them from #yolo and launching their nuclear stockpile upon defeat
>nothing could stop a nation from doing this today
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>people look at one more month waiting for F4
>am excited for Wasteland 2's Director's Cut in 2 days
>gonna enjoy the "Kopfkino" when creating my squad
>the prehistoric graphics will make F4 look even hotter
>feelsprettygood.xtml
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>>118724815

>Beta Wave Tuner

so that's either just a Mesmetron addon or it shoots actual beta radiation waves

although beta waves are weak as fuck
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>>118725328

>2015
>conventional war
>between superpowers
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>>118725328
>yfw this is Israel's game plan
Yet they're still our allies, apparently.
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>>118725356

the wasteland 2 engine would be a pretty good platform for a fallout game

if it was 1997
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>>118725328
>>nothing could stop a nation from doing this today
Except the number of people that get in the way and the morality of the president. Wars, especially modern wars almost never end in outright annexation, if America hypothetically lost a war to China America as a nation would still exist, killing billions to prevent that defeat is retarded. It is like pulling the pin on a hand grenade because you are losing a fist fight. Furthermore nuclear launches go through several layers. Even assuming the president wants to launch the nukes and no one around him tries to stop him there is still the individual launch sites. A captain to an SSBN could simply ignore or refuse the order or the crewmen or officers seeing the retardation of such actions could mutiny and refuse the launch order.

Nukes are deterrent anyway, the whole point of having nukes is so that the other guys can't nuke you with impunity, nobody had intentions of starting a strategic nuclear war during the cold war under any circumstances.
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>>118725563
I think you misspelled "investors".
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>>118725328

>tfw it would literally take one narcissistic individual
>one person who takes every minor criticism as a direct attack
>one person famous for an extremely short temper and destructive reactions


Good thing that could never happen, right?
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>>118723315
I mean, while I like the idea of you being able to go full laser weapon, full plasma weapon, or full on bullets, I'm kind of weary on it. I just don't see ammo conservation being a thing that you have to give a shit about in this game, since you can pretty much have each ammo type (except making normal rounds into shotgun ammo) do anything.

Maybe I'm just being petty, but I enjoyed having one type of weapon for each round so I can shuffle them around. I realize I can still do that, but if I'm picking up / making microfusion cells left and right, there's going to be that temptation to just make a laser sniper rifle, automatic rifle, and shotgun and do 90% of fights with those.
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>>118724961
Why are you so butthurt over NMA.
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>>118725784

How do you know there's going to be an abundance of ammo? The only time I've ever had an abundance of ammo is mid-late game in New Vegas. 3 was a nightmare.
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>>118719717
>a Dr. Strangelove situation

As opposed to a real cold war situation that occurred for years and is the reason there are like, 99 nukes just sitting around earth somewhere because they fell off planes?
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>>118725961

I didn't know the formal name of the operation. First thing that popped into mind. Be cool, anon.
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>>118723448
My guess is that the cranking mechanism makes it so that it doesn't expend ammo. So basically it's an energy breeder, but degrades a bit every time you crank it until it breaks and you have to go build / find a new one.
Because it's an early game weapon, so I don't see it being very powerful, just useful in its own way (when you don't have much ammo for anything, but everything is weak as hell so you don't want to waste what ammo you have)
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>>118725880

Lil' Bethesda fanboy probably just got banned from there, l0lz.
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>>118725961
>what are broken arrows
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>>118725930
>3 was a nightmare.

Nightmare of mountains upon mountains of ammo? You know you had an ammo factory at The Pitt, you know.
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>>118726038

>crank it until it breaks and you have to go build / find a new one

This is what I assumed too.

Or maybe there's a microfusion cell on the interior of the mechanism, and each crank kick-starts a small reaction that floods the chamber with energy

or something
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>>118725930
>3 was a nightmare.
How? The only ammo I ever found myself running low on was .44 and .308, which made sense considering they were the two most powerful gun ammo types. Even then, there were plenty of ways to easily acquire more.
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I really hope that the "fuel source power armor" is only a mechanic in very early game when you get your first suit, and that mid / late game you can either make or find a proper fuel source to keep power armor supplied with unlimited energy.
Because the whole concept of the brotherhood and Enclave kind of unravels when power armor only lasts 10 minutes. It would also just not feel right if power armor was relegated to a temporary power up instead of being a suit you can wear around freely end game, like in every previous Fallout.
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>>118726167
>You know... you know.

Note to self, proofread more.
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>>118726417
Don't worry anon, we all know Bethesda is going to screw it up, but we also know some modder will fix it.
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stealth musketeer confirmed best build?
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>>118726417
I'm half-convinced it's a Metroidvania. You start with your shit-tier, short-lived suit, and part of accessing new areas in the game is finding parts to repair and upgrade the suit - get the jetpack so you can clear a jump, get the filters so you can enter the glowing sea, get the pressure valve so you can reach a sunken ship, etc. A late-game unlock to let you use it full-time fits right in.
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>>118726417

Yep, all of that's true.

But then again, when has past games ever stopped Bethesda from doing something. Lorelol, and all that.

>>118726575

Muskets a shit. Minigun shredder THE build.
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>>118726575
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>>118725784
>I just don't see ammo conservation being a thing that you have to give a shit about in this game,

I hope you're wrong. I actually enjoyed going through the DC metro on my first ever unmodded Fallout 3 playthrough worrying about ammo, it was both creepy and tense, and validated my decision to not completely dump strength and put some skill points into melee (my first character was a mess). In any case, the end result was fun

As game designers, they have to balance "this sucks I can't do anything because I have no bullets but I really want to keep going where I'm going now instead of going elsewhere or back to town to get ammo" vs. "this sucks I have all the ammo in the world and nothing bothers me since I'll survive anyways"

But after Skyrim, where smithing your Iron/Steel weapon made it far better than any superior material you came across that you couldn't work (Glass, Orcish, Elven, etc.), I'm not sure they can balance this correctly

I dunno, nothing we can do yet and crankable Laser Musket does seem like a pretty cool concept.
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>>118726651
>trying to force your shitty meme
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>>118726575

my oh my, preston

you have such a large musket
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>>118726417
I'm not really bothered about the power armor using a fuel source. What would really bother me is if it's treated like vampire lord/werewolf from Skyrim, where you can't do anything except fight when you're in it, not even pick up items or loot.
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>>118726634

Would be amazing if the jetpacks were good enough to enable some vertical dungeon design once more. Morrowind had some neat locations in the temples etc. that you could only realistically reach with levitation, more of that please.
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>>118725712
it depends on the leadership, I have no doubt that a few nations today would rather that option that fully capitulate to an aggressor
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>>118726575

I hope he isn't essential.

Because I want that outfit.
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>>118726729

>condoning shitposting

Pulling any of this Obsidian v Bethesda shit is literally NMA-tier.
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>>118726651
Could you use a name or a trip so we can filter your shitposting out?
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>>118726792
I want jetpack beatdowns

Power Fist + jetpack melee combo, rocket forward down the entire hall and slam their shit, slam through doors, slam everything!

I'll probably have to wait for mods
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>>118726746
You and all your pockets are completely enclosed inside the PA. Requiring you to disembark to loot is a fair cop.
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>>118726716

i didn't know you swung that way, anon
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>>118726558
>>118726670
>>118720715

>Thinking Obshillians are any better than Bethesdrones

Both lead to shitposting.
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>>118726935
That will make using power armor awfully tedious.
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>>118726109
Doesn't a broken arrow have to fall under the definition of a nuclear accident? I'm talking about the fuckers that just fell off and didn't go boom.
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>>118726024
Chrome. Dome.
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>>118727115
Standard vehicle rules for every other open-world game mate. PA is a vehicle in all but name now and it's glorious.
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>>118726039
>l0lz
Obshillians right here
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>>118726831
Besides Israel (who if they outright lose a defensive war actually would be destroyed as a nation most likely) no nations with notable stockpiles have leadership unstable enough to use nuclear weapons to prevent from losing a war. Sure North Korea might, and maybe Pakistan but neither of them are relevant. As I said it is like pulling the pin on a grenade in a fist fight. Nobody who comes to power in a major nation is dumb enough to do that.

On the bright side nuclear war wouldn't kill off humanity even when nuclear weapon stockpiles were at their peak. Granted billions would die, the climate would be heavily effected and background radiation would be higher than normal for like a thousand years, but humanity as a species would survive.
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>>118726960

OH SHIT

I'VE BEEN BAMBOOZLED
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"A month ago there were twenty of us, yesterday there were 8, now we're five..."
>dialog wheel
"I'll help if I can."

d'you think one of the options will be "give me all your shit and i might not end you" or will it be forced friendliness cause it's an intro level
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>>118727306
There is no fucking way you'd have to get out of the suit to loot and you're retarded if you think this is even a remote possibility

>>118727395
>"give me all your shit and i might not end you
tHa'ts pretty racist.
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>>118727159
I'm quite sure they're considered military accidents/air disasters, or something like that.
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>>118726960

>that magazine on the desk

Note to self: Don't forget to steal.
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>>118727493
Ah, you're back. Did you have a nice nap?
>>
the real question is

will NPCs be able to look up and down?
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>>118727493
You couldn't loot in werewolf and vampire lord forms in Skyrim. It's not that much of a stretch to think that the trend may continue.
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>>118724145
>>118724251
>>118724815

>Being excited for this shitheap further rape of the Fallout series

It's all just CoD "Brah!" shit. I, Juan Carlos, AKA Walpknut, in my completely factual and true opinion, hereby state that anyone who enjoys Bethesda games in any form are literally jizz-guzzling idiots. Fallout is deader than Ed at the entrance of Vault 13. I only play 1, 2, and NV. That's middle ground enough to have a completely un-biased and true opinion on Shitout 3. It's garbage and anyone who enjoyed it should immediately off themselves because they're an idiot for enjoying dumbed down trash. I sure as hell ain't buying 4, and anyone who even remotely thinks it is considered Fallout is just a drooling idiotic CoD cunt with no taste.

NMA is literally the only real place with any taste left. All of you are just a bunch of kids if you're excited for what I like to call "Rage 2". Don't even come near my presence if you think about calling this abomination "Fallout 4". My art I draw on my Deviantart page easily outshines anything these fucking mentally broken retards at Bethesda scrabbles on their "Concept art". I could code a better game in my sleep. What a fucking waste of a good franchise. I'm sorry for humanity's crimes against your beautiful series, Sawyer. Rest in Peace, Fallout. I hope everyone at Bethesda dies a horrible death for raping you. I'll be sure to hashtag #FalloutIsDead on each and every further one of my tweets from now on.

If any of you have common sense you should all quit talking right now, stop posting these stupid 3D Shitout game pictures and talking about Shithesda's abortion and go talk with the REAL intellectuals at NMA.
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>>118727395
According to ye olde E3, you can break off conversation with face-shooting at any time. Dunno about Nice Hat Calamity Jane dialogue.
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>>118727806
I see this guy in every thread on nma
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>>118727806

thanks you too
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Brian's voice is so gentle when he's talking to Codsworth

I might do a male passive playthrough just to hear him talk
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>>118728014
https://youtu.be/bCRRxTBNZ9g?t=56s
disregard source, it is where it is
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>>118727867
b-but I would be excited for Rage 2
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>>118728160

>that laugh

male playthrough confirmed
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>>118727806
Is this guy serious?
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>>118728160
Courtenay is adorable but Brian has dat laugh

Husbando or Waifu, /fog/?
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>>118727806
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Save or sacrifice ED-E in LR?
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>>118728435
Waifu on the first pass, for the sake of being a wasteland breeder, but I'm definitely doing a husbando run after that. Brian's been chill on every interview I've heard.
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>>118728530
Save, duh. Nothing to gain by sacrificing him.
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>>118728160

>"FUCK YOU *Beep*-ck"
>"Just long enough to be "Hancock"
>Hancock the Pirate Ghoul confirmed for betraying you in the first act
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>>118728672
But muh humanities. Even if they're legion scum.
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Why is this happening? sexlab thing
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>>118728673
Yeah, but he'll be jolly about it.
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>>118728728

I ended up sacrificing ED-E. Not sure why. I was doing an NCR run.

Doesn't matter because you go back to the Mojave and ED-E from Primm is upgraded with LR ED-E's upgrades.
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>>118725654
Never said otherwise.
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>>118728729
Either your mod manager needs its invalidation toggled, or you accidentally installed the dongless edition.
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>>118728729
it's long dick johnson
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>>118718415
The Hoover dam is huge
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>>118728813

[Intelligence] So you fight the good fight with your voice on Galaxy News Radio.
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>>118728813

Okay dude. We get it. You don't like NMA and its members are comically petty.

Joke's running thin.
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>>118728435
Husbando, because my first character will always be a jack-of-all-trades self-insert so I can experience a bit of everything and know what is and isn't possible for future roleplay playthroughs. I've already got some specific character builds, but I won't be using them the first time through.
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Think I could run it on ultra?
also graphics card is 6gb no idea why it says 2
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>>118728943
>>118718415
It'd kind of a big dam. Cars for scale.
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>>118729243

Damn
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>>118729243

Crazy how nature does that.
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>>118724815
>.45 revolver
>6 shots, more than enough to kill anything that moves
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>>118729381
It's pretty crazy how we did it, too. The concrete still hasn't set.
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>>118729381
Yeah, can't believe a dam like that formed naturally.
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>>118728957
Fuck off he only posted two things.
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>>118729510

I genuinely hold the construction of the Hoover Dam as one of mankinds greatest engineering feats.
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>>118729510

How did they empty it?
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>>118729507
>Using .45 in a revolver
What a waste.
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>>118729580

Yeah, and the joke is wearing thin.
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>>118729587
Ironic. One of mankind's greatest feats of engineering is named after one of America's shittiest presidents.
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>>118729706
Are you one of those people who says "No one cares" to innocent comments like a fucktard imbecile piece of shit?
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>>118729663
They diverted it - multiple tunnels to split the river around the site. Wikipedia could tell you more, I'm not an expert.
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>>118725784
>different kinds of ammo
eeeeh no sorry. the game is build around the ammo converter, a tool that converts the "standard ammo" for each gun.
so there is only 1 ammo type basically and each gun uses a different amount of it. sorry to tell you. confirmed already.
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>>118724815
I just realized how hard you can potentially extend this with mods

Just now

Like, at the moment of writing

You could import multiple custom 3D meshes and textures for custom parts and put them together in custom recipes

You could make the recipes complex and multi-stage, like put 4 parts together to make the "engine" portion of an energy weapon, and then use that part in another recipe

Since you can do this with power armor, I'm sure someone will write an adventure where the end objective is to assemble some monstrous half-mech thing out of dozens of parts, each part will be assembled out of constituent subcomponents, because complexity for complexities' sake
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>Hey - you. You see that Laser Musket on the ground? Pick it up and head inside.

When the PC is picking it up you can see microfusion cells next to his feet.
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>>118729812
No one cares
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>>118729703
>Being Ocelot
>a waste

You fuck.
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>>118729962
I would love it if the PC looted the body too (the way you do) and Preston called you out on it.
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>>118730031
slick burn
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>>118729918
How can you convert a 9mm into a shotgun shell or energy cell?
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>>118730118
Get 'em young, and the possibilities are endless.
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>>118730031
>Using a .45 in your SAA
>Not .357
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>>118729962
I wonder if you can actually carry more than 999 of a particular ammo type? The HUD doesn't seem to account for it.
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>>118729962

Weird. I wonder where they go.

Maybe you open it up like a break top revolver and put the MFC inside the area with all the gears.
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>>118730226
If the almighty Shalashaka chambered it in .45 who am I to do differently?
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>>118714298
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Have you gone Nuclear yet /fog/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJS3bIpGYT0
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fucking ridiculous
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>>118726960
i wonder if the NPCS are smart enough to only use working computers this time
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>>118730519
What, the fact that you're only fifty steps away from the Tardis?
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>>118730519

I don't see what you're talking about.
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>>118730519

>raider hiding behind cover

what game is this
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>>118730519
Are you talking about the little damage you take from the shot?
It could just be on very easy or something.
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>>118730519
is it because the player has horrible aim?
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