*BLOCKS YOUR PATH*

>>390216010
*tells you to fuck off back to your furry board*

All I needed to see of Pokemon 'Multiplayer' before realizing it wasn't worth it.

>>390216010
More like
*RUINS YOUR META*

>>390216010
>complaining about Landorus

Yeahhh no, try playing against Greninja, Magearna or the big 6 from stall play.

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>>390216010
BEGONE, GENIE! KNOW YOUR PLACE, AND BOW TO THE LORDS OF OVERUSED!

>>390216010
you mean
>HOOOOOOOOOOOOL' UP
>*U-Turns into a Volt Switcher*
>SO YOU BE SAYIN' I'M STILL META N SHIIIIIIIIIET?

*Ice attack*

phew that was easy :D

>>390217362
How do you beat this?
I run A-Marowak and Tapu Fini with some success but I think Smogon will ban Arena Trap before I find a solution.

>>390217661
dugtrio/yzard

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Have you thanked the Sneaky Jewel Goblin of healthy meta yet /v/? Healthy metas since 2014!

>>390216010
*actually has scarf defiant jolly primeape with ice punch named REMOVE MEANIE out already*

>>390217731
Well, Dugtrio is pretty much the answer to 80% of the meta.

>tfw running Banded Explosion Landy in doubles
If Tailwind is up, no one realizes you don't have scarf. It's great.

>>390217661
Wait a week or two for dugtrio to be banned.

>>390216010
>mfw I use max sp.atk hp ice Landorus just to get rid of opposing Landorus in one shot

>>390216010
Is there a more perfect Pokemon? Can Scarf, set up, set up rocks and explode on the defogger's face, be bulky and break walls.

>Tfw Gen4 was the last good meta

>>390217808
The worst part about Landorus T is that it's extremely unpredictable and can viably fill a variety of roles. It's a jack of all trades, while also being top tier in those roles, that makes it so powerful. For fucks sake people have even started to run HP Ice on it to counter the opposing Landorus.

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>>390216010
>PUT LANDO-T INTO ANY TEAM
>U-TURN
>U-TURN
>U-TURN
>EARTHQUAKE
>TWO OTHER ABILITIES THAT CAN BE LITERALLY ANYTHING
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>390216010
>Snorunt used Powder Snow!

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>>390218249
>For fucks sake people have even started to run HP Ice on it to counter the opposing Landorus.

>>390217808
>Was sash explosion

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>The opposing Landorus-T used Rock Slide!
>Your Pokemon flinched!
>Your Pokemon flinched!
>The opposing Landorus-T used Rock Slide!
>Your Pokemon flinched!
>Your Pokemon flinched!

>>390218149
I haven't played for a while. Is dugtrio finally getting suspected?

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H-hey guys! I got something kinda-like Shell Smash! C-can I be your friend now?

>>390216010
I actually kind of like this thing, you can run Gravity or HP Ice on it for keks.

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>>390218378
>252+ SpA Landorus-Therian Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 300-356 (78.5 - 93.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

>>390217857
dugtrios a good revenge killer and can trap walls, but it does jack shit vs ho, pinsir fucking manhandles it
you run it there because ttar loses to it, otherwise banded ttar/yzard is better because sandstorm can chip out a weaviles sash and ttar has way better staying power vs chansey
also superpower

>>390218531
Sadly. While everyone else adapted to stall using it, people started using it outside of stall and it started trapping stuff like Chansey and Heatran to open way for Zardy.

>>390217321
i've never fucking ever had a problem with magerna, I also dont ever run chansey

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>2017
>still playing by Smogon rules

>>390217627
>outspeeds you and takes your pokemon out in one hit

>>390218674
It got massive fucking buffs with 20 attacking points and tectonic rage.
It completely deleted heatran from ou for several months.
The new ebola stall toxifuck gets memed by it too.

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>>390218703
Probably a best bug bro.
>>390218759
It'll rape next year's vgc as well so shush.

>>390218759
>playing beat Cloyster before it shell smashes:the game

>>390218814
The 20 attack points did literally nothing. Go ahead and do calcs, it gets like 3 new 2HKOs also people were using it in ORAS before it was even buffed.

Is Gengar dropped to lower tier

>>390218875
>playing: 10 MORE MINUTES MOM, JUST LET ME BEAT THE PINK EGG AND JEW GOBLIN

>>390218948
Gengar lost one of the best things it had going for it.

>>390218814
What the fuck is Tectonic Rage?

It sounds like an attack a Digimon would use

>>390219242
Z-Move for ground types.
I think it's 200 BP for Earthquake but you can only use one for the entire match and you need a Z-Crystal to use it, meaning Duggy needs to forsake Focus Sash to live a hit.

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HOW DO YOU USE THIS THING

>>390219242
you guess correctly

>>390219562
air balloon

>>390218921
It's the 20 attacking points plus tectonic rage which make it good. Without the 20 attack then tectonic rage doesn't one shot tapu lel. Without the 20 attack then it does 10 to 15% less damage to things like tapu finni or mew.

>>390219562
>Max Hp, max sp.def
>Leftovers
>Toxic
>Protect (stall/bait Hi Jump Kick)
>Magma Storm
>Flash Cannon

Most people think you will switch out and will switch out or U-Turn instead of going for EQ, depending on your team.

>>390219562
heatrans used for its typing, figure out what you want it to switch into then make a set for it

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*subzero slammers*
is there anything that can take adamant freeze-shock z-move and not live 50%

>>390220272
Heatran.

>>390219562
sub torment protect lava plume @ leftovers

>>390216010
fuck off nigger you shitty legendary you aren't even a good design you're just a shitty version of entei with a gay-ass tail used for plugging up assholes.

https://pastebin.com/i3X1gzGA
r8 no h8

>>390220614
I like it.

Switch Specs for Scarf?.

>>390220416
>subtorment
now thats a classic meme

>want to use my favorite nigga Aggron
>can't because no Mega
When will they fix this shit?

>>390220980
what?

>>390221104
wait they added megas now?

>>390221264
Is this bait?

You can get Aggron MegaStone via Mistery Gift,

I haven't played comp pokemon since gen IV. How do I learn the current meta? I feel like if I hop onto smogon I'm going to get wrecked and frustrated and not learn anything

>>390220614
>scizor
meme set. walled by a lot of things. bullet punch is its only offensive move after it boosts other than u-turn which wastes the boost.
>greninja ash
delet this
>nihilego
you don't need 30 defensive IVs for HP ice. in gen7 something with perfect 31s can have any type HP
>kyub
you're missing 4 EVs
>skarmory
red card + whirlwind seems redundant
you have no recovery on it which significantly weakens its walling

>>390221448
Most Gen IV top tiers are still viable so you will feel at home. Just play some matches and learn how Megas and Z-Moves work.

If you still have the basics you shouldn't have a problem.

>>390221448
dealing with power creep
team preview
learning new sets because of z-moves
learning dream world abilities
learning megas (not that hard desu)

all you need to know desu

>>390222405
>>390223467
not really

>>390225581
not really

>>390218759
Sauce on the edit? Is there even one? IQDB has failed me

>>390227251
/vp/ made it

>>390227290
God bless that anon then.

Are there more?

>>390227407
>>>/vp/edits

>>390221613
Skarm is a suicide lead, whirlwind is an oh shit button if red card gets acrivated
I wanted scissor for the priority sweeping + spikes, kyruem for the no switch ins after rocks, and yeah maybe I should have scarf niheligo. Zygarde wins most games anyways

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What works well with this guy? I have been thinking about starting to play this gen just to use him

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*notices typing*
0w0 what's this?

>>390228253
I want to pet_ Weavile!

>try to climb
>vs rain
>lose because I don't have ferrothorn
>or vs that meme Elec berry hawlucha
>lose because not even lando can tank it

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>>390216010
and people still say Gen 5 was the last good pokemon games

>>390229150
Weavile is best ice type and perfect for pets and pats.

>>390227851
Love this fuck. Go max attack and hp, assualt vest and for moves do knock off/shadow sneak/gunk shot/pursuit. Can take a hit while hitting like a motherfucker. Fucks tapus up nicely

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>tfw Tapus rendered my bromon obsolete
Curse Lele

>>390218759
Is there one for Flannery

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*Blocks any path*

>>390232446
good lord, i can't wait for the meme sets that come with this stupid thing.

>>390219562
Heatran @ Leftovers
Timid 252SpA/4SpD/252Spe
-Magma Storm
-Earth Power
-Taunt/Toxic
-Substitute

Pair it with Tapu Bulu.

>>390232446
If i buy this game solely because of this fucker I'm gonna be disappointed in myself

>>390232940
i cant wait for it to be some dual type that has many weaknesses despite its defenses

watch it be like rock steel or dark steel or fairy/poison

>>390229298
Well, it's still true

>>390232446
This thing is so fucking stupid but I love it.

>>390234959
oh fucking hell don't do this to me.
>defensive ice types

WHY GAMEFREAK.
IT DOESN'T WORK.

>>390235243
it is blue, after all

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>>390235405
FUCK

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.

>>390235728
thanks doc

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>>390232446

>>390234962
see>>390216010 >>390220272 >>390235728

>>390220272
your mom can take a subzero slammer

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I have been playing pokemon since the first game came out, but I don't care about the competitive scene, so I laways use whatever I like the most while playing solo and never touch the PvP, so here comes a legit question about something I read around: how is Dugtrio, one of my favourite pokemon of all time, suddenly a bannable offense? It's because they sightly buffed the attack?

>>390240180
They're not banning Dugtrio, they're banning Arena Trap.

What's the reasoning behind running Chansey over Blissey? No bully, I barely have any idea about pokemon pvp.

>>390240896
Eviolite gives +50% Def and SpDef, making Chansey MUCH bulkier. Blissey can still hold leftovers and pass bigger wishes, but the Def boost is more than worth it.

>>390240896
Chansey has better defense with Eviolite. Since all the blobs can do is take hits, you obviously run the one that can take hits the best.

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>>390216010
"I wish for a meta without genie cancer"

*Twists your wish*

>>390243045
How come Rayquaza isn't in more teams despite having an amazing ability and godlike stats?

>>390243045
why is kangaskhan good now?

>>390244726
That's Mega-Kangaskhan

>>390243045
>Lilligant and Amoonguss

What happened there?

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Smogon is a balanced for-

>>390247112
Competitive pokemon is a joke.

>>390245052
Amoonguss has always been good in doubles because bulky+regenerator+spore.

>>390247112
Why anyone would play OU I have no idea. It's basically Ubers-Light at this point.

>>390218814
>It completely deleted heatran from ou for several months.
This is bad how

>>390217362
>dugtrio
Not for long asshole!

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Why is my boy Skarmory competitive?

>>390249326
Good Defensive Typing/Stats
Sturdy
Roost
Spikes
Whirlwind

He's just a solid defensive mon for Stall. Also he counters le balanced genie of OU.

>>390249531
immune to poison on a stallmon too.

>>390228253
>>390229150
>>390229313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KgPjJb4ev0

>>390217661

DD Mega Gyarados? It can Taunt Sableye (who can't even hold off on the Mega to WoW thanks to the Prankster nerf) and attack through Unaware. Only has to watch out for Toxapex fishing for burns.

>>390219562
Heatran @ Air Balloon
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Magma Storm
- Iron Head
- Will-O-Wisp
- Taunt

Trust me on this. Magma Storm + 30% flinch from Iron Head is deadly against Chansey and other defensive mons. You can replace WoW with Toxic if you want, but burning Lando-Thots, Zygardes and Gyarado's on the switch-in is so satisfying. Taunt shuts down said defensive / stall mons and Air Balloon allows you to switch in on Lando-Thot / Excadrill using Earthquake.

You don't need to invest in offenses since you won't be OHKOing shit. Max speed lets you outspeed Breloom / virtually all stall mons etc

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So why is this piece of shit not banned to Ubers when it was last generation? Especially now that it essentially has a "mega" that can hold items and doesn't take up a mega slot.

>>390250329

Doesn't run Gunk Shot or Low Kick, so dedicated special walls can beat it. Shittier than Protean variants until it gets a kill. One dimensional; 70% of them run Choice Specs and all but 1 of its moves are mandatory.

No, I can't explain why regular Greninja is still OU.

>>390249326
Turns out steel/flying can get you very far

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I fucking lost my copy of Moon, but thankfully didn't move all my Competitive mons from Gen 6 to it before I did.

>>390251523

I can't tell if you posted this because it's hot or because it's QUALITY

>>390244686
VGC Doubles is a different meta

>>390251523
I love Misty! I want to cum inside her!

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>>390251717
What a Lana?

>>390251806
No. Misty is the one true waifu.

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>>390216010
*ice beams*

>>390218790
You're already dead. A fainted pokemon can't outspeed anything

>base 91 Speed

>>390216010
I stopped playing during X and Y what's the new meta? Haven't even gotten the new game can some one give me a quick rundown. For reference I used to meme sandstorm with that hippo fuck then use the badger dude for that stat increase

>>390245052
Lilligant learns sleep powder and after you and has its speed doubled u der Groudon's sun. This allows Groudon to move first and hit with a ludicrously powerful attack despite its low speed.

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>>390251806

>>390252887
How do you even manage to be such a hypocrite?

>>390253487
wtf I love Lana now

>>390250115
Substitute Mega Gyarados also works. Tanks Knock Offs, bypasses status and can stack up DDs like a champ.

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>>390255429

>>390251615
>QUALITY
Fucking how? Only the artstyle is off-putting, but the animation looks alright.

>>390217362
Once you beat the goblin, entire team fall like dominos with taunt, this is the lowtest team of bad players

>>390218875
>He has a bad time with shell smash users
The absolute state of kids playing the game

>>390258342
>implying youll even get the chance to kill the fucker

>>390258737
I'm not a bad player, so I can do that easily.

>>390258786
>go into anything that can threaten le happy jewel
>goes into a blob
although i havent played gen 7 comp outside of the first week where i just killed everything with lele and pheromosa but i cant imagine sableye being very different this gen

>>390250115
*gets blocked by unaware*

>>390259840
*Mold Breaker*

>>390218584

>The only counter to Landorus-T is himself

GENIE OF HEALTHY META

>>390232446
It's gonna be pheromosa but everything in defense.

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Reminder

>>390261550
But it's the truth, anon.

>>390263912
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Amorphous_%28Egg_Group%29

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>>390216010
*blocks the whole fucking route*

>>390260865
So, doesn't mean I can't fuck it.
That just means no worries of impregnation.

>>390240180
It disturbs the power circlejerk between Chansey and Charizard Y.

>>390258342
Your taunter gets trapped and killed by duggy.

>>390272787
Not Tapu Koko.

>>390217321
Who are the big 6?

>>390218537
Does he? What move?

>>390273046
Right under his post

*laughs at such a stupid design*
Seriously who thought this thing looked good?

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>2003
>He still doesn't play as a female character

>>390273538
>*action*
Kill yourself.