Sonic Mania

>>390206278
>half the game is reused assets
>the ending is a lackluster promotion for forces
Yes, this game completely deserves a sequel.

>>390206278
>Are they memorable bosses for you lads?
Only Heavy Shinobi and probably not

>>390206278

I found the boss fights on the whole better than other Sonic games, but bosses have always been a sour spot for the series so it's not saying much

It's still my favorite 2D Sonic though. The soundtrack alone is almost enough to raise it that high/ Press Garden is also the best Zone in the series

Gunner is probably one of my favorite bosses from a sonic game in general

Magician was cool if only for its gimmick

Shinobi was fun

King/final boss in general sucked ass but it was pretty alright in Knuckles' story

Rider was meh

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>>390206278
They fucked up with their execution as bosses near the end of the game.

Only Knuckles gets the really cool Heavy King fight - while Sonic and Tails deal with a not-hard just frustrating boss on the motobug.

Then its evident that Titanic Monarch Act 2 was to be a boss rush where you fought each of them (besides the King) at the end of the 4 sections. This got cut - because they're insane to put 4 additional bosses when there is a 10 minute timer - and got pieced into the Eggman final boss's attacks.
However, removing it makes Titanic Monarch 2 feel bizzare in how its sectioned off, and the Final Boss can be a drag with the transitions if you don't just kill it fast the boring way.

>>390206278
Yeah I liked the heavies they are probably the best thing to come out of sonic since blaze

They should have all been act 1 bosses like Heavy Gunner. Their fights were underwhelming for act 2 bosses.

I found them all pretty memorable, but I'd rank the Police one the lowest. Shinobi was being a retard with the ruby, King tried to steal da mastah emeralhd, Magician was quirky and cool her whole time, and Riders just a nut who has Jimmy.

The police one... Makes a shocked face and rides a helicopter..?

>>390207490

The Mania team had too much attention to detail in the rest of the game for the oversights to have been their fault. The lackluster finale and missing stage transitions were more than likely due to executive meddling. I bet they had a whole different story they were going with until Sega ordered them to make Mania a Forces prequel near the end of development.

>>390207490
I think the timer actually speeds up

I enjoyed using robotniks machine on hydrocity, shame after all these games still havnt had a duel with the cunt, i want to bop him on the head

>>390207441
I kept getting hit by his red rockets,but I'd say Jimmy takes the best boss intro

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>>390207441
Why did Tail's get sidelined hard this go around?

Cybershill is streaming boys

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>>390206278
I sure hope so.

>>390207441
The gunner fight paired with the music was the best shit, it was a good choice putting him first. But i'd say all of them had good fights and memorable themes

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>>390213264

They're all great, especially Magician AKA bestgirl.

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>>390213264
NO!!!!!!!!!!

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>>390213540
We gonna need a lot of bleach boys.

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>>390213836
if i was home id pose the set where they bump butts

>>390208269
sega has always had a problem with deadlines and feature creep. Its amazing that the team behind this managed to make as much as they did with sega breathing down their necks

>want them to do a similar game for the 3D Sonic stuff
>Remember that 3D sonic is all around shit and only furfags feel nostalgia for it

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>>390215473
Today I will reminded them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0o8axzRGqg

>>390215923
>When your rivalry with another branch of the same company is so strong you sink the entire works rather than cooperate.

>>390213284

I'm still triggered that they rveersed the act backgrounds in Hydrocity.

>>390206278
They bothered to give the HBH genders and had them act like their own thing against Eggman most of the game, on top of the Forces tie-in at the ending. If they're not either the super secret final boss to convince Forces kiddies to buy Mania, then I don't know.

As far as memorable goes, they're usually not the shitty boss fights in this game, so they had that going for them. Gunner is fucked since physics went Sonic Team during his fight, and Magician could be a bit cheap due to having to wait for her to be in a form for a bit before you could register a hit, but they're otherwise better than most of the fights that just drag on within the game.

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>>390213264
>>390213540
Woah

>>390215923
holy shit, a 6 year old yuriofwind video. brings back memories.

>>390215473
>what is sonic adventure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6NaZrPQGfY

>>390219839
Worse than you remember

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>>390221347
>yfw /v/ only counts to 3 of its about female males

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>M-magician and Rider are girls cause the manual says so!

meanwhile...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhYus-48j8Q

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>>390208231
Gunner was the most heavily marketed, he's the star of the opening animation and was revealed first.

>>390207490
They should have made the entirety of Titanic Monarch Act 2 have a malfunctioning timer, so there was enough time for all of the boss rush.

>>390213264
>>390213540
>pale eyelids
>misdrawn pupils
>misdrawn abs
>fat arms
>those proportions
>tumblr text
Who the fuck drew this? Another furry degenerate of the week?

>>390221517
It's because they're the Yellow and Pink Rangers.

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>>390221614
>those tubes

is metal sonic a clone?

>>390222175
you can't clone robots you doofus

>>390222175
Metal Sonic is weird,

Then again I only think that because of Heroes because what kinda crack allowed him to become a final boss

>>390222175

I like to think its the same Metal Sonic from CD, just different bodies.

>>390221863
wew, took me a second to realize it was a subtle sauce request

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>>390221614
Fuck Penders, he basically part of the reason why Mega drive Overdrive was cancelled

>>390222175
He was in a tube in the OVA, wasn't he?

>>390223353
What's with Penders and that echidna?

To be honest I could only even remember the Shinobi and Magician the first time around. The whole time I was thinking "where's the Heavy King?" until I finally got to Egg Reverie. Too bad I spoiled myself on Knuckles stages as well...

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>>390223353
>Penders

Who?

>>390206278
rider would've been cooler with a sleek biker aesthetic. Why is he even a knight?

>>390224142
Former writer that kept suing archie and sega. being constantly sued is probably what lead sega to end partnership with archie

Is anyone else just generally bothered about this game tying in with a mediocre main Sonic game that may be Forces?

We have this gem here with a neat simple premise and the true ending is moreso a callback to the true ending in Sonic CD, but because of the noise the Phantom Ruby makes and all the transitions to the past stages it feels like the Mania team was forced to leave hints about Forces.

...and it just... leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Like, one again even now SEGA just couldn't help themselves and had to do ONE THING to hold back either someone else from going full original, or whatever.

Probably fucking Iizuka. Fuck him.

Cybershell where's the video on him?

>>390221863
i love how no matter what it is, /v/ will complain its not sexy enough

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>>390224343
>he

anon didn't you hear both it & the magic hat robo are female robots

>>390224142
don't ask
don't look him up

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We Power Rangers now?

>>390207490
Theres also evidence that phantom king in egg reverie was suppose to change forms into those bosses as well as egg reverie possibly having more gimmicks involving platform crystalization

>>390215923
God the model for Sonic in Xtreme/3D Blast/Blast is the worst.

>>390206278
>in the sequel

Sonic Mania only sold like 500k right? it's dead

>>390222175
He's a clone of Sonic.

Or more like, a 3D-printed photocopy.

>>390212624
Tails is a pallet swap.

Also do they ever explain why Tails/Knuckles can run so fast?

>>390227589
>500k

it was consistently at the top of all three consoles charts for quite awhile m8,the delay for the PC version didn't even slow it down

They were wasted in the final battle, thought we'd have to get rid of them all on top of eggman
Heavy shinobi and magician were the only ones I remembered.

>>390206278
I think they're a good one-off team of villains. But Eggman doesn't need a team of regular robots. I'd rather have something new to look forward to next time. And him being an inventor, there's no reason to bring them back except out of laziness or creative bankruptcy.

>>390228087
I was surprised that we didn't have to kill all the HBHs before Robotnik. But I guess since so many people had trouble with shit like the Squid Robot or the Spider Robot they didn't want to make it too hard.

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>>390228238
They could have new HBHs made. They don't necessarily have to recycle the ones here.

>>390224343
>Why is he even a knight?

Something probably got cut somewhere. Rider is the only heavy that appears in a classic stage and Press Garden feels like it was three seperate level themes that got smashed together, one of which was a castle.

>>390228403
It's definitely an improvement over recycling. But after Heavy King went rogue, you'd think he wouldn't try his luck with them again.

After all, Eggman dumped the E-series after Gamma's betrayal. Not counting the disposable mass-produced models.

>>390227589

Sega itself said it would've been number 1 in the UK charts for weeks straight if they had done a physical release.

>>390228597
>But after Heavy King went rogue, you'd think he wouldn't try his luck with them again.

Robotnik didn't create the heavies. They were normal Egg Robos before they got caught in the Phantom Ruby's time-fuck magic.

>>390228597
>After all, Eggman dumped the E-series after Gamma's betrayal.
Negative. He went all the way to Omega and didn't seem to learn about Gamma's betrayal.

Out of all the HBH Heavy Magician is best. Aside from her and Heavy Gunner, the rest barely got any kind of real development or personality. They need to come back so they can all be fleshed out more.
I mostly blame it on the story having to focus on that fucking ruby the whole time cause "forces prequel lol"

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Can someone tell me the last time a Sonic game had a 3D water section, if one at all? I'm racking my head trying to think of a level with one like that, but I can't think of anything.

>>390206278
Honestly I really enjoyed many of the boss fights in this game. Shit dude, how long has it been since the last time Sonic boss fights were good?

>>390229016
Lost World

>>390229016
Colors had Aquarium Park. I'd actually call it the best water level 3D Sonic ever had.

>>390229016

Lost World in SA1 had an underwater section if the person playing is a shitter.

>>390229016
Lost World 3DS

Prior to that, I think the only other Sonic game with 3D underwater sections is Adventure 1.

>>390206278
No. I had no idea what even they were supposed to be doing.
The story was really disjointed. Did this take place instead of Sonic 3 & Knuckles?

>>390229016
Heroes had one I think?

>>390217605
This. If there's a mod to change the backgrounds around I would download it in a flash.

>>390206278
If by some miracle Sega is actually smart enough to greenlight a sequel or something in the same vein (i.e. another 2D Sonic game that's actually good), I would be interested in seeing them come back.

>>390229259
It's suppose to take place after 3&K. They go back to Angel Island cause Tails detected the Phantom Ruby. Eggman detected it as well, unsettled it, then it started fucking shit up.

>>390229016
Adventure 2

Aquatic Mine and knuckles' section of Cannon's Core had water

>>390229140
>>390229206
>>390229170
>>390229208
Yeah, but that was done in a faux-2D perspective. I'm talking like a level that's fully done underwater in 3D.
>>390229265
Nope.
>t. person that completed heroes as a babby

>>390228864
You forget that Omega himself was intended to be scrapped. Or at the very least, not given the chance to perform his intended purpose.

Though you're still right, the line of robots did go on, since E-201 Chaos Gamma got made.

>>390229208
Water Palace in Rush

>>390229206
Also pretty much all of Big's story if that counts.

>>390229465
>Yeah, but that was done in a faux-2D perspective
?
There was a level in Sonic Lost World that had an underwater section, and it was 3D. As in you played in 3D.

>>390229458
Thanks, mate, I was just thinking of how a fully 3D underwater level would play out in a Sonic game
>>390229604
Excuse my retardation, I thought you meant the Sonic Adventure level, which was done in faux-2D

Sonic Mania made me realize that I am no longer a fan of classic Sonic games, they just bore me now, but I gave it a shot, made it to the Saloon level and stopped, might finish it, might not. Glad classic fans got the game they wanted though.

>>390229858
What do you think turned you off to the classic style?

>>390213284
Is the second to last one Scrap Brain zone or the one from CD?

>>390230065
The one from CD.

>>390230065

Metallic Madness, the final level in CD.

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>>390223353

>>390229858
Well I'm sorry to hear that, anon.

>>390229967
You're probably going to get mad if you're a classic fan.lol

Sonic Unleashed... the boost gameplay is everything I wanted in a Sonic game, to me, boost gameplay is what Sonic advertises himself as in all media except the classic games and it's how it seemingly "should" be but I am glad it's not only boost boost. So I was converted into a boost fag by Unleashed.

Why were Mirage Saloon act 2 and Stardust Speedway act 2 so criminally short? Even taking your time you can finish in about two minutes.

Did anyone else who played the original Sonic games back when they were new, and thus were already pretty good at them, kinda wish they could re-live the experience of having to re-learn a Sonic game like we did when we were kids?
I kinda just breezed through the game on my first playthrough, and I don't blame the game, I feel it's on par with S3K in terms of difficulty, that is to say pretty forgiving overall, but I just kinda wish I hadn't gotten good 20 years ago.

>>390230370
I dunno. I was enjoying myself too much to really give a damn. I didn't get a time out or game over either while playing through the whole game from start to finish in one playthrough on release day.

Is this game really unstable for anyone else? I've blue screened three times while playing it so far. I'm assuming Denuvo is partly to blame since it has a reputation for destroying PCs and Taxman's CD remake doesn't give me this issue.

>>390230370
I never got past Carnival Night Zone as a kid.

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>>390230370
I agree, should be more Labyrinth, Scrap Brain, and Metropolis zones.

>>390230746
Have you tried playing the pirated version? Saves should be the same.

>>390230746
I've been playing the PC version since it came out and haven't had a single crash, though I have had a couple bugs happen that have been known about which I just needed to close the game and open it again. Sounds like it might be on your end.

>>390230570
Oh I thoroughly enjoyed the game, don't get me wrong. I just walked away from the game initially thinking it was too easy and had to remind myself that I've trained for this game for most of my life without really knowing it.
>>390230812
Metallic Madness in Mania was fairly platforming heavy. Not as heavy as the levels you listed, or the original MMZ for that matter, but I think it scratched the itch for me.

>>390230804

Holy shit. Human x sonic character mating confirmed.

>>390230942
I was thinking it was gonna be hard because of every shitting their pants over how hard it was. Specially considering Oil Ocean and Titanic Monarch.
Titanic Monarch though was more of a pleasent challenge for me with a fantastic score while Oil Ocean was just Oil Ocean. I swear the people complaining have never played a Sonic game before.

>>390230942

The original Metallic Madness was retarded, just like every level in CD. It was just a bunch of techno shit thrown around with no rhyme or reason. The level design in the Mania remake flowed much better.

>>390231068
>I swear the people complaining have never played a Sonic game before.
They haven't.

>>390231010
Where have you been m8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk6cgp7RcL8

>>390230370
... Learn? Learn what? The game has 1 button.

>>390231157
>Implying Sonic 06 didn't write itself out of canon during the true ending

>>390231080
>Stardust Speedway Act 2
>level design makes absolutely no sense
>dozens of springs placed randomly for the sole purpose of bouncing you backwards and breaking the flow
>even while taking your time and exploring you'll still finish the level in under two minutes

They really captured what is was like to play Sonic CD.

>>390206278
>We will never get the Hard-Boiled Heavies in the comic because Archie finally laid it to rest

>>390231523
There's always IDW, family
https://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/888536084472352770

>>390231574
Giving the comics to IDW is like letting Sonic Team make Mania 2.

>>390231642
There's still hope that they'll retain Flynn as the head writer. He put a lot of work into the series and it'd be a huge fuckup if they don't bring him back for the IDW run.

>>390231363
Did you know if you can actually figure out the fastest route through the act you can get to the Metal Sonic fight in about 35 seconds?

>>390231749
Ian's life is an ironic hell. You want to come in and fix the Sonic comic? Well, fix it again! And again! And again!

>>390231749
If Ian Flynn isn't the continuing main writer for it it's a lost cause.

>>390231749

If I was Flynn I wouldn't even bother at this point. The poor bastard planned years-long story arcs in two different continuities and each time he had to scrap them because of autistic legal bullshit. Why go through that a third time?

>>390232285
I believe Sega has ownership of any characters and continuity introduced after the most recent reboot, so they may be able to continue any storylines that were left off there.

>>390232894
Would be nice if they could do more stories instead of just the Shattered World saga loosely based on Unleashed's story.

>>390222175
>>390223490
He's in a tube in Sonic Adventure too.

>>390231523
there's always hope it'll come back in our dreams ;_;

>>390235110
Archie getting the license back ever? Bitch please, totally in your dreams.

>>390231574
Hopefully they scrap everything from the Archie series and start fresh.

>>390231749
God, no.