Nintendo 3rd party is back

All thanks to Id's programmers. I don't think it will be a trend with other developers.

>WANTING Bethesda shit
Zenimax pls...

That was the literal only surprise but yeah it was actually a genuine surprise for sure.

>>390198696
SEETHING

>>390198375
Why do people hype up inferior multiplats that are way better on PC? The only games that matter on consoles are EXCLUSIVES, everything else is filler.

>>390198694
This. It takes effort to bring games over, the problem isn't the hardware it's the developers, this proves it though which will be nice for shitposting threads to watch people deconstruct.

Nintendo: Putting the 'PORT' in 'portable'.

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I thought Fallout 4 would be coming, not these games.

>>390198854
Switch definitely is getting more exclusives in general than competing consoles did at the same point in their life cycle.

>>390198375
so I can play a port with shitty graphics on a laptop

wow

>>390199097
Seething.

>>390198375
Thats because Doom/Wolfenstein run at 60fps on ps4/Xbox. Also Idtech6 engineer are the best.
Enjoy your 30fps/720p version.

>>390199034
So hype those games, don't hype scraps.

>>390198854
Shut you dick sucking mouth faggot it's PORTABLE DOOM how do you not see the value

>>390198854
>Why do people hype up inferior multiplats that are way better on PC?
Because not everyone is a PC gamer, genius.

>>390198968
O take Wolfstein II over Fallout 4 any day, but it would not surprise me if they opted out because the game is open world, meaning it would be tougher to keep decent performance.

Don't forget to buy a nice meaty microSD because you know damn well you're gonna have to download 60-70 GBs worth of shit to play these games.

>>390198854
I can play it on the go.

>>390199234
I mean I do personally but most people who play games like the 3rd party AAA multiplats, they bitched and moaned all last gen because those didn't show up on Wii U.

The Switch has the advantage of offering these games with portability, which is actually something worthwhile, compared with consoles. You could argue that laptops do these too but laptops are also a different form of portability, not quite AS convenient.

>>390198375
All this delicious butthurt over based nintendo
It seems nintendo won guys

>>390198854
it's sad only advantage switch has is portability sad pc has exclusives modding 60 fps 4k sometimes cheap ps4 has exclusives cheap bigger playerbase on fighting racing fps games xbox one x more powerful than ps4 no exclusives this is just sad what does switch even have

>Switch Selling better than PS4
>HAHA IT HAS NO GAMES ANYWAYS
>Switch gets 3rd Party from big devs
>HAHA OLD PORTS HAHA

SONYPONIES ON FUCKING SUICIDE WATCH

>>390198696
Daniel Bryan plz

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>>390198854
I mean, PC has been superior on a technical level since 1999 at least. Switch is portable at least which PC doesn't offer.

>>390198375
>intendo 64 times, when we use to get really good FPS's
>Nintendo 64
>good FPS's
kek

>>390199182
>Doom/Wolfenstein run at 60fps on ps4/Xbox

With no enemies on screen, dips otherwise. Worse on Xbox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhhsmcoYybc

>>390198854
I own DOOM on PC but having a portable version of it just seems a lot more compelling

>>390199849
Delete this right now, it will be 30 fps on Switch anyways fuck you dad

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>>390199538
DELET THIS. MOOOOOOODDDDDDSSSSS!

>>390198375
the new Doom and Wolfenstein games are fucking terrible though

>>390199849
yea. just saying why they can afford to port this on switch.

>>390198375
Wolfenstein 2 for Switch is coming next year. It already has an October 2017 release date for everything else.

>>390200029
>>390199849
fuck you dumbass*

autocorrect

>>390198968
I'd rather buy DOOM twice over Fallout 4 once

>>390199342
On another note. Fallout 4 games had poor performance on consoles too. It was never able to hit 60FPS and it stuttered at 30. And even on PC the game needed tweaks to run optimally.

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>Still no original doom on 3ds

>>390199980
I don't know, since it's Doom I would choose the option with better graphics. Still hoping it sells good numbers on Switch, we need more Doom.

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>>390199538
Nintendo won

>>390199674
>old ports
last time I check Wolfenstein II is not out yet.

>>390200409
When it gets hacked it will absolutely get it.

>>390198375
>Switch has Vulkan Support

>Idtech6 is fucking polished with vulkan, enough to run on a 660gtx from 4 years ago with 1920x60fps on high settings

>>390200409
Don't we have a Doom mod on Homebrew?

>>390198968
Fallout 4 is poorly optimised and ran like dogshit on the PS4 so I doubt the switch could even run it. Doom with vulkan can run on a potato PC at solid 60fps and Wolfenstein 2 uses the same engine.

>yfw id is making Prime 4

Capcom post if you're ok

>>390200474
I get your point. But I'm sacrificing graphics for portability. In a game that's already full of content (that's assuming SnapMap, Arcade Mode and Multiplayer are in the Switch version)

>>390200974
Capcom decided to give us Revelations 1 and 2. So it's something I guess.

>>390201112
No idea about SnapMap, but they confirmed online multi during the DOOM reveal.

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>its going to outsell the ps4 version

>Bethesda = 3rd party support
this is the same company that released the same game 5 times

>>390201413
I doubt it honestly, though the switch getting it at all surprised me.

I do hope it sells a lot though, the game deserves a good sequel

>>390201112
steam install for nuDoom is like 90 gb
will they cut stuff or figure out how to compress their textures and audio
everything about the game and wolfenstein is a complete joke anyway

>>390201308
That's one thing at least

Nintendo is officially DOOMED.

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>>390201413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGgzeKdICDk

>>390198968
Beth knows fallout 4 sucks and no one wants it.

>>390201631
>everything about the game and wolfenstein is a complete joke
Explain

>>390201705
Ah so that's what they meant. Nintendo haters saw the future

>>390201756
>Todd even admitted it was ass
I liked the character creator though, allowed for some nice waifus

>>390200960
holy shit, I did not realize we don't even know the devs yet. It lines up well, port DOOM to test the engine on switch.

>>390201913
>Todd even admitted it was ass
wat

>>390198375

>N64
>Good FPS's

l m a o

>>390200729
this

>>390200960
DOOM multiplayer better have Samus based unlocks.

>>390201413
Xbone version for sure.

>>390198968
Fallout 4 runs like shit on Xbone and PS4, Switch would probably catch on fire.

>It's a neo-/v/ hypes up Zenimax thread

>>390201969
He did an interview a while back where he admitted a bunch of shit went wrong and that the shooting was the only good thing.

>>390202305
Well, he's right on that regard.

>Lost Souls changed to look like Metroids

>>390202112
Do you even Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and Turok?

>>390200960
Nah. They did say the studio for MP4 was new.

>>390198854
Because they are portable.
Because being able to take and play a game ANYWHERE is SUPERIOR to graphics.
Because any multiplat that ends up on the Switch gains portability above its counterparts, and becomes the DEFINITIVE edition.
You heard me, fight me faggot.

>>390202112
Turok fuccboi

>>390202449

None of those hold up at all, N64 shooters were only good if you lived in a void and didn't know what PC shooters were like.

>>390202702
Turok holds up perfectly, as seen in the remasters.

>>390202114
>>390201921

It fits with the old ass Rumor that id may be working on Prime 4 because they hired the Original Prime team from retro to work on D44M level design

>>390201846
well this would really deserve it's own thread but the wolfenstein games are little more than bloated clunkier Cod clones with a name change and Doom is a complete abortion of game design
All the fundamental things movement, weapons, enemies, levels are just wrong on a completely new level.

>>390202681
>Because any multiplat that ends up on the Switch gains portability above its counterparts, and becomes the DEFINITIVE edition.
This is very debatable.

PORTABLE DOOOOOM

PORTABLE WOLFENSTEIN TWOOOO

THESE ARE DEFINITIVE EDITIONS, STICK A FORK IN SONYFAGS, THEY ARE FUCKING DONE GET FUCKEDDDD

Why would I play these on a 480p screen when I could hook up my computer to a 4K television and play with literally any controller I want

The switch is a joke

>>390198375
Who would want to play fps on console. On a console that can't run it 60+ even with shittier graphics.

>>390202935
It's pretty legit honestly. Who cares about 4k (most games won't get this on console anyway just some) or like... I dunno, what does the PS4/Scorpio really offer over PC in any way? Portability is actually something different that could be considered an advantage over a PC multiplat, other consoles have nothing over PC.

>>390198375
>Wolfenstein II
The problem with that is that it will come sometimes 2018 for the switch easy half year later after the other consoles

>>390202963
PC is the definitive version though

>>390202935
Gaining portability isn't debatable.
Better options over better graphics also isn't debatable.
That's as debatable as physical not be superior to digital.
WIth Physical, you can sell it, it will likely stand the test of time if you take care of it, and its actually something you can show off to people. A actual function. A actual option. That is easily more valuable then something that just alters the appearance. Absolutely 100%.

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>>390203090
>controller

>>390203204
Wolfenstein 2 is already coming out the same day as Super Mario Odyssey. No point in letting it get cannibalized.

>>390202963
As happy as I may be about portable DOOM and Wolfenstein he's right >>390203207

>>390203090
>controller
Nigga you just played yourself

>>390199674
>Switch selling better than 4 year old console that goes from selling less than switch to more than switch every week
yeah very impressive

>>390202560
Maybe they're using the doom engine. There has to be a reason beth and Nintendo are so buddy buddy

>>390203090
Unless you're playing with the Steam Controller. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>390203481
Is the PS4 supply constrained?

>>390203276
>it will likely stand the test of time if you take care of it
Absolutely 100%, sure. Your whole post is opinions, if not wishful thinking.

>>390203367
>>390203439
>>390203592
Where's the mouse and keyboard for the Switch?

>>390201413
honestly i can imagine it considering there is nothing else to do on switch so they latch onto anything.

>>390203742
Gyro aim, best control method besides Mouse, better than any twin stick

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>>390203535
>Todd abandons the Xbox as his console of choice and now all future Elder Scrolls games are optimized for the Switch first

>>390200809
yeah but no touch screen controls tho

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>>390198375

>>390203742
What >>390203918 said

>>390203207
If Wolf 2 is as good as it should be I might double dip

I own DOOM on PC and beat it 3 times. DOOM on switch is a no brainer.

>>390203972

Why in the ever loving fuck would you play Elder Scrolls beyond Morrowind?

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>>390198375
That was a pretty sweet surprise tb h, the library is shaping up nicely so far.

>BotW
>MK8
>Mario Odyssey
>Mainline Pokémon
>Octopath Traveler
>Portable D44M, hopefully they'll put the sequel on the Switch too
>Binding of Isaac
>MH
>FromSoft's new jam (whatever it is I'm hype)
>Prime 4

Shit, if I wasn't so wary of the whole revision thing I would buy a Switch in the very near future, but I'd rather wait it out. At least until Prime 4.

>>390204249
>Switch not powerful enough for Overwatch
>Apparently can run DOOM and Wolfenstein
What is wrong with Blizzard?

>>390204249
>Final Fantasy 15 has no plans for a Switch port
Didn't they literally just say they were interested in it?

>>390204458

Activision and Butthurt because of interplay rights

>>390204423
I'm seriously considering putting it on layaway at my local Walmart since there's a few copies there. (I'm poor so I can't spend $300 dollaroos at once)

>>390204458
You need to be able to optimize and program your games efficiently, which requires programmers above Blizzard's skill-level.

>>390204458
This is why the Doom/Wolfenstein 2 release is the best thing ever. Finally a talented 3rd party Western Dev can prove what I've been saying for years about how the hardware is not the issue, the developers are. Anybody who had brain cells already understands this but now there is literal proof because somebody actually stepped up.

Thank you id.

>but the hardware is too weak for my game!
Nah, just shitty devs.

>>390204458

>wifi only 60tickrate FPS on a portable

Yeah, sounds like a winner

>>390204458
Overwatch doesn't support Vulkan, that's why.

>>390204727
Wait, are you saying Overwatch doesn't already have a 63 fps tickrate? Because that's what it has on PC.

>>390204707
Aren't the id guys under Bethesda the only ones who seem to have a good grasp of how to properly use Vulkan too? This shit is gonna be great.

>>390199302
>not everyone is a PC gamer
why not? you have no excuse other than being a brainlet

>>390204574
Explain

>>390204613
>>390204707
Fucking, THIS. RIGHT. HERE.

>>390204727
Ok ignore how the online might suck. (Which it doesn't suck on the Switch) But focus on "not powerful enough". That's just a stupid statement. Considering the first Wolfenstein melted PCs not powerful enough and DOOM looks and runs amazingly.

>>390205036
>why not
PCs are meant for working, not for playing, child.

>>390204458
There's more to porting a game than power.
Doom and Wolfstein are built on IDTech 6 and it supports the Vulkan API. The Switch uses the Vulkan API, that's why those two can come to the Switch.
I don't know what Overwatch runs on, but it doesn't support Vulkan.

You should be pulling for devs to use non-proprietary APIs

>>390204707
Hardware is the issue. It's cool that they made it run, but you can see the graphics took a significant hit. This wouldn't have been the case if Nintendo picked better hardware. I know we are running in circles at this point.

>>390198375
The fact that switch versions of Doom 2016 and Wolfenstein II are a thing really shows just how well optimized idtech 6 is.

>>390205192
This. This is more a technical accomplishment for IdTech, not the Switch. Not to take anything away from the Switch though.

>>390199816
You mean a fucking laptop?

>>390205065

the Free Versions of RNR, blackthorne and Lost vikings on blizzard website are heavily modified ones based on the SNES version

RNR lacks the soundtrack rights because it was made by interplay, And interplay fucked blizzard sideways later on

>>390205112
>Hardware is the issue. It's cool that they made it run, but you can see the graphics took a significant hit.
Right but the argument from some retards (and developers/publishers themselves) is that "we can't bring this game over because of the hardware.

This is bullshit and always has been and now there is more substantial evidence. Obviously it has handheld capability, compromises have to be made, that doesn't mean it can't run. It just requires talent.

>>390204496
They said they are interested but there's no concrete plans just yet

>>390205065
>Ok ignore how the online might suck

How do you ignore the ONLY feature the game has? There's no single player to tide you over while wait to be matched up with Japanese players on a wifi connection.

I don't care what the hardware can or can't do, especially because Overwatch is one of the better optimized games out there, it's about the overall experience being diminished because of the platform.

The Switch is a really cool design, but some things work on it, but others don't.

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>>390205414
>>390204496
No, they revised their statement a few days later.
The episodic pocket edition made for phones may come though. (lol)

>>390199263
zdoom has been ported to every fucking conceivable platform. not to mention doom itself has been ported to literally everything with a processor that has an ALU on it.

>>390205505
>The episodic pocket edition made for phones may come though. (lol)
It's the same except with graffix right?

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>>390198854
>"w-why does no one waste $5k to play console ports?"

>>390205642
Not really

>>390205112
On one hand you're sacrificing graphics for portability. And ID prover that they can port a game like those two to the Switch, so now devs don't have excuses for "it's not powerful enough". Well just sacrifice a few aspects of it and people will not complain since they know what they're buying it for. Now if you want uncompromised, perfect graphical fidelity, then the Switch isn't the console for that, and it never will be.

>>390205290
Laptops suck ass

>>390205672
>not really
Sounds a lot like yes when you add that really.

>>390205425
But the thing is that the online doesn't suck. It's great for Splatoon, Mario Kart and Arms. So why would it suck for Overwatch?

>>390205505
It's almost Luminous is a piece of fucking shit engine. Thank God KH3 isn't using it.

>>390205705
>Now if you want uncompromised, perfect graphical fidelity, then the Switch isn't the console for that
I don't think anyone has expected perfect graphics out of Nintendo since the Gamecube, though.

>>390205748
It looks almost nothing like the original game, even less combat options. If they are splitting by episodes, it will likely have less overall content too.

>>390205828
Agreed, its not super optimized, but most things won't run on the Switch because of its weak hardware. We will have to see how shit Doom turns out, since its going to be the objectively best looking game on the system. Most Switch games look like trash right now.

>>390205815
Bad developer netcode?

>>390198375
pc/ps4 idort, I might get a switch if nintendo keeps this up
can't say I'm happy about the memory card situation I've heard about, but as long as it doesn't have proprietary cards like the fucking vita I won't mind

>>390198375
Imagine optimising DOOM so well that a switch can run it

>>390205331
It doesn't require talent. It requires your programmers to be a bit mire than lazy cocksuckers

>>390206017
Then that's Blizzard's fault. Not Nintendo

>>390198854
I'll play Wolfenstein 2 on PC but this is a huge move for Nintendo. Getting these types of multiplats only strengthens the Switch, this stuff is what makes the other consoles strong. Having popular multiplats and the great first party Nintendo has it only makes the console a better choice long run to consumers.

In short, Ninty are leveraging a portable console with solid third party games. Good move business wise because there's no competition right now

>>390206002
>It looks almost nothing like the original game
That's what I meant by graffix.

>even less combat options
In what way?

>If they
call me when it's a they aren't instead of an if they.

>>390206021
It doesn't. It has paid online, terrible servers, amiibos, and overpriced proprietary controllers instead.

>>390198375
>Getting excited for a neutered version Doom
>getting excited for a neutered version of Wolfenstein II

>Release Date TBA 2018 pending no delays

You are still getting delayed ports of games which run better even on a potato pc

>>390206057
That's what talent is now in the vidya industry.

>>390206023
Soon Doom 4 will be running on printers

>>390206116
It's literally already confirmed episodic you autist. Look at gameplay videos, the combat looks worse.

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>>390200331
>>390200029
Calm down, son

>>390206124
well that does sour the deal a little

>>390206217
>It's literally already confirmed episodic you autist
Well I'm not the autist who said "if it's episodic" when he apparently knew it was.

>Look at gameplay videos, the combat looks worse
Because it has graffix, what "options" are missing like you claimed, autist?

>>390198375
You seem to forget that we saw this with the Wii U as well but once the limitations of the hardware became known and sales plummeted those third parties abandoned ship like rats

Switch will not share the Wii U's fate, its success is assured however that doesn't indicate it'll get good third party support throughout its lifespan. Especially with major players passing over the opportunity to port guarenteed successful titles to the switch due to the limitations of the hardware. Just like with the Wii U

>>390198696
SEEEEEEEEEEEEETHING

>>390206497
What is "good third party" in your mind?

>>390198375
They should bring Doom 64 to the Virtual Console

>>390198375
Skyrim is shit Doom is PASSABLE Wolfenstein 2 is shit

>>390206057
You are pretty talented at making baseless statements.

>>390203806
Nothing else to do?

Zelda, Mario odyssey, Xenoblade 2, Metroid 4, SMT, Kirby, etc. Honestly, switch looks like it will have a great library of games.

>>390207178
You haven't even played Wolfenstein 2. Nobody has, it's not out yet moron.

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>people excited to play nudoom on a controller at 30fps

>>390206831
Not him, but Good third party support is when most multiplatform games get a version on such console without question.

Its a bit hard for this to happen with Nintendo, as they tend not to work with third-party developers to help make things easier on them. Also doesn't help that Nintendo in recent years likes to make their consoles noticably less powerful than the competition, which can throw certain more demanding games out the window from the get go.

>>390207762
Hey man, xbone/ps4 ran the game at 40-60 fps at least.

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>>390207681
TNO and OB are shit hence it is shit

>>390208160
TNO and TOB were fun as fuck, IMO.

I actually kinda wish there was a game that had the popcorn hitscanners of Wolf TNO mixed with the tougher projectile demons of Doom 2016. Part of what I liked about classic Doom and its 90's contemporaries was that they had both hitscanners and projectile enemies, making for varied combat dynamics.

>Buy Doom on Switch
>Can only play multiplayer unless you download a 40gb 'single player' DLC

>>390200029
>fuck you dad
Explains most Sony fanboys, doesn't it?

>>390198375

Call us when it gets simultaneous releases with other platforms.

>>390207805
>as they tend not to work with third-party developers to help make things easier on them
Good for them. 3rd party does better work when they aren't spoonfed, just like anything.

>>390208929
It was autocorrect, I can't control that on my phone

>>390207805
>which can throw certain more demanding games out the window from the get go.
Good. Maybe if the Switch takes off well enough it'll force publishers to hire engineers who know how to optimize shit, so we can have 1080p/60fps be the bare-minimum standard on PS4/Xbone.

>>390209330
3rd parties are better at making ports when the console manufacturers arent making it easier for them to understand its architecture? Got any examples?

>>390207762
>Controller
Nice meme

>>390209448
Wolfenstein 2 and Doom (2016)

>>390198968
Probably harder to optimize an open world game. Skyrim has taken a while

>>390209541
The switch version of Doom 2016 isnt out yet, and any version of Wolfenstein 2 isnt out yet.

>>390205290
Not the same kind of portable obviously. Who plays a laptop on the bus, plane or car?

>>390205743
I mean sure, Laptops sucks but it still doesn't take away the fact that it is still portable and still have the power of a desktop one if you have a gaming one. I have one and i bring it everywhere and play it everyday in my college.

>>390204458
Shitty developers. Nvidia already showed the Shield TV flawlessly running Crysis 3 back in 2015, Overwatch is nowhere near that level as far as tech goes, but performs far worse in pretty much every single platform.

>>390209974
Who plays a switch on a bus, plane, or car?

>>390198375
>skyrim
shit about to be a DECADE OLD
>doom
that shit came a year ago
>wolfenstein II
shit is gonna be the budget version of it

>>390198375
>3rd party is back
>No big titles outside of Bethesda stuff
>Not even Fallout 4
>No big Ubisoft or EA / Activision support

>3rd party is BACK BABY!
Yeah, from 1-2 small timer, but nothing from the actual big ones that would matter on a level where it's important.

10$ more expensive than the ps4 versions

/v/ wrong yet again LMAO

>>390207362
You're just confirming the anons post.

>>390210983
>actual big ones
What are some recent big 3rd party games that are better than Ids stuff?

>>390198375
>Same developer/publisher
>Three Inferior ports
>"NINTENDO IS BACK WITH LOADS OF 3RD PARTY SUPPORT AND GAMES!!"
I expect such support to last just as long as it had for the Wii U.

>inb4 drones brag and brag about getting 3rd party support and then don't actually buy the games like what happened with Wii U and then continue to buy nothing but Mario, Zelda, and Smash

>>390204928
>>390205108
>He thinks the Switch is using Vulkan or even supports it beyond the hardware (nvidia) level
Top fucking kek

>>390204458
Simple: ID has some legit experts and a lot of big names in their company working on ID Tech 6 and their games, Blizz is nothing compared ot this.
That is, if ID even makes the switch port.

>>390198375

No first person shooter is good on console.

>>390202761

>judging a game by it's remaster

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>>390205516
Hes talking about bethesda's doom you dingus

>>390202681
This works for many games, but not all. If graphics are the focus, then it doesn't work. FPS games will also be better on PC, 99% of the time. But portability and extra control features gives people a reason to own a Switch version of a multiplat, versus ZERO reason to buy one for an Xbone or PS4.

>>390211475
>switch is built with hardware that supports vulkan so it doesn't support vulkan
?

>>390211475
>He thinks the Switch is using Vulkan
https://www.khronos.org/conformance/adopters/conformant-products#vulkan

>>390211565
>he doesn't use pointer/gyro controls

>1 recent port
>Not even recent as the port comes out a year later

Nintendomination

Nintendo fans actually believe this is good 3rd party support.

>>390203697
>bu-bu-bu SUPLLY CONSTRAINED.
SEEEETHING

>>390199674
In what world is the Switch selling better than the PS4?

>>390198696
got worked into a shoot

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>>390199392
I'm normally a digital only guy, but yea I'm gonna have to get a damn physical for this. Even then I'm sure we'll need to download some additional stuff.

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>>390212496
Reminder that splatoon outsold bloodborne despite the Wii U being fucking braindead last with the booming success of the PS4.

People only bought CoD and nothing else.

>>390204423
>FromSoft's new jam

What?