Why aren't you playing HearthStone?

cause it sucks

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I find it less fun than other card games such as Magic the Gathering and Yugioh

pay to win trash

>>390180656
Druidstone

Why aren't you playing Magic the Gathering: Arena?

It's another Blizzard skinner box, where a handful of cards in a 115+ card set dictate everything, and the rest are relegated arena garbage or trashy pack fillers. Hearthstone is where fun goes to die.

>>390180656

I'm not good at deck building.

>>390180656
because the devs/ben brode literally lie and do the opposite of what they say they will
>hearthstone is working to remove RNG elements and make it more reliant on player action
>add more RNG instead
>classic cards will always be playable regardless of what format you are playing in
>they start to ban certain classic cards from being played outside of wild
fuck ben brode and fuck hearthstone, i play MTG on xmage now

Because the way I want to play it requires either too much money, or too much time. I want to get most of the cards and have fun. I'm not interested in crafting "cheap competitive" deck and grinding it for god knows how long.

Because Blizzard is fucking clueless and it shows.

>play for awhile
>earn gold from quests and packs from brawls
>never get anything good
>earn gold to play the adventures because everyone was using those cards in every deck
>once I get them they take the cards out of standard
>keep facing the same decks over and over again
>realize theres websites where people just copy decks from
>can never even make one of these decks because all my cards are shit
>new expansion comes out
>destroys me even harder because I don't spend money to get the best shit immediately
>stop playing

>>390180656
I rather play to win than pay to win.

I fucking hate unlocking cards. Just let me pay 50 or 60 dollars or whatever and give me all the goddamn cards so I can play the way I want.

>>390180656
because I'm waiting for more quests to do more arenas since constructed sucks because I haven't bought 50 pack packs since old gods and I don't have a lot of the newer cards to make meme decks so I need to grind arena.

>>390180656
I had my time with that game. Spend something like 400 bucks on it because I'm one of those autists who has to play many decks in order to not get bored. Lost interest because you have to keep buying shit with each new release or grind away.

Stopped after rls of 2nd expansion.

Gathering gold to unlock them is a fucking nightmare grind.

Also game is shit.
Just play Elder Scrolls Legends or some MTG.

>>390181268
is xmage like the official magic games where the game auto taps and stuff or is it like that yugioh game where you have to move everything around the board manually?

Because I forgot my bnet password and security questions, and I don't feel like sending those faggots my ID

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>>390181268
>>390181773
FUCK YOU
BUY MORE PACKS HAHAHAHAHA

I got bored of it after a few months. It wasn't interesting enough for me to keep playing for really long periods of time.

It has too much RNG and you have to donate if you wan't to have decent decks on more than 1 classes.

I've been drafting in Eternal instead.

Less depth than other online card games while being way more pay to win.

It's really jewish when it comes to the dust system and what you typically pull from packs. You practically have to pay money if you want to keep up. Sure, you can build a tier 1 deck each expansion, but after that you really have no resources to be creative in deckbuilding. The result is that everyone is playing a netdeck because they'd hate to waste their dust on something that isn't competitive.

I cannot fucking build a deck to save my life.

>>390180656
Cause I can't afford good cards

-Too much random bullshit.
-Incompetent dev team.
-Stupid decisions like introducing a rotation system in a digital fucking card game.
-No balance among classes.
-Patches are few and far between to address serious balance issues (and either don't do enough to balance or completely drop the ball and invalidate an entire deck archetype)
-Have to grind every day like a motherfucker or pay up big bucks to get enough cards to play a decent variety in deck types.
-Ben Brode.
-Awful community that will purposely attempt to infuriate you by roping every turn even when they have few/no options remaining.
-Putting stupid filler cards in an expansion that have no play value whatsoever

>Blizzard games

yeah, nah. they're dead to me.

>>390180656

Because introducing standard format instead of balancing cards told me all I need to know about the direction of development.

Game was already a shitshow and then they pull that garbage.

Uninstalled forever, didn't pay a cent and never will.

>>390184447
I'm curious who is alive to you considering the state of the industry.

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Because I'm playing Gwent with my main lad Rad

>>390180656
Because game is barebones, there is not interaction with graveyard even. After those retarded nerfs I started to play gwent and enjoy it more

Played for a while but it's honestly garbage.

There's absolutely no skill involved as long as you're not a complete moron. It's more RNG and deck composition than anything else.

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>>390180656

At the moment, if you aren't playing any form of druid you have a trash deck.

Costs a kidney to get even one decent deck.
Devs are as stingy as all hell with packs.

Gwent is more fun

>>390184865
Sorcs deserve everything they got.

Too busy playing YGOPro2.

I just want to play a card game where you have options for what your opponent plays and have to think things through when playing.

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>>390180656
Because I already hit Sea Giant, and this meta is miserable to play in. Now I'm just laddering in Gwent until the nerfs drop next Monday.

>>390180656
Because I'm playing Eternel, it's 100 time better.

Yugioh:
>multiple free simulators
>good waifus
>not Blizzard
MTG
>good card game
>good waifus
>not Blizzard

really have no excuse tbqh lads

>>390180656
Because I don't think RNG is fun

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>>390185010
???

>>390180656
I got bored of the game since all my friends left for whatever reasons.

>play Gwent
>shit ton of decks are reactive
>most combos or abilities can be reset by like half the removal cards

Only gripe.
Does the game have something akin to hexproof?

I didn't have money to buy the 3rd wing of Naxxramas and fell behind while everyone else had godlike cards in their decks. It was a lot of games before I got even one win for a daily quest so I gave up.

>>390188347
>the only interaction with graveyard is cancer

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>>390189471
>only
????????

>>390180656
Because literally every balance patch is terrible

It's absolutely pathetic that they can't balance their childrens card games of 1's and 2's

>>390183573
>>390188018
My dudes. What decks are y'all playing?

>>390189817
>random

Fucking why. Hearthstone would be infinitely better if they got rid of all the randomness.

>>390190124
mainly just draft and whatever my quests pull up. I just started yesterday so I'm still finishing up the puzzles.

Because it's freeplay unfriendly.
Because Blizz can't balance to save their jobs.
Because the desighn is focussed on making ebin youtube clips possible.

>>390181268
>make classic cards good so each class feels unique and powerful
>nerf/remove classic cards because too many people used them

Literal retard Blizzard logic

If they were consistent they would have to nerf/ban Fireball, frostbolt, truesilver champion, consecration, siphon soul, and about 80% of classic class cards because they are almost always auto-includes

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>>390180656
why aren;t you playing Duelyst?

>>390190410
Fair enough. I just started 2-3 days ago myself, surprised at how far I've been sucked in.

>>390190769
Because I hate the artstyle and UI

>>390180656
because when they announced that instead of trying to balance their game with patches they were going to just make a bunch of my cards unusable i stopped, and from what i've heard the game has only gotten worse since then.

Is the Arena still fucked by making your first two cards """""synergy""""" picks?

>>390180656
Every expansion has made it worse, and now it's unplayable.

It's already too late, I will never catch up with the meta.

>>390188139
MTG is worse than Hearthstone. Magic Duels is a huge piece of shit.

because im playing real card games that are actually fun

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>>390191002
but the pixel art is amazing?

Didn't they lock some old good cards away that can never be unlocked but other people can still play them? That's bullshit.

>>390191196
The meta is Jade Druid, nothing more. It is by far the most powerful deck of all time and will likely never be topped. There are literally zero counters or drawbacks to it.

>>390190124
I play dark roaches when I do play constructed.

I finally dropped it after the last expansion

I saved up enough gold for 60 packs, opened them, played a few games, then realized I just didnt care anymore

Alot of time was wasted, but at least I'm finally free

Game is pure shit at the moment. I played daily from ungoro's launch to KFT launch, but now I just log in every now and then and do quests for packs. Nerfs are a good first step but won't change much.

>>390190769
I didn't like the art style, maybe I have autism, but it really bothered me.

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I'd rather S U C C

>>390192053
I've played against one roach deck and it was the worst. Fuck roaches.

>>390180656
I do and I hate every second of it

>>390190769
I was really excited for this when I came out because the mechanics looked really cool

Unfortunately the art style is a bit too grating and alot of cards look like similar pixelated messes

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>not playing superior Shadowverse

>>390180656
because "playing" Hearthstone these days is
>do you have one of these 5 decks
>if you said yes, enjoy playing the same cards for the same reasons over and over and over
>if you said no enjoy losing every game to the same decks over and over and over.

What's a better alternative card game for phone users?

>>390192053
I haven't playing casual or ranked yet, will probably start that tomorrow once I finish the rest of the "odds and ends" puzzles. I've been tinkering around a spell burn deck in my head but since I don't know the meta at all right now it might not even be viable.

>>390191139
They actually announced they will be getting rid of synergy picks

Playing quest mage atm

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>>390192256
Understandable, personally I really appreciate the pixel art style, makes it stand out amongst the endless bland shitty ccg's

>>390193441
Shadowverse
Pokemon TCGO

>>390194295
The pixel art is fine, its the general/character art that isn't.

>>390184413
>-Stupid decisions like introducing a rotation system in a digital fucking card game.

If you think this is a bad thing you probably shouldnt play ccgs anyway.

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Because Shadowverse, Gwent, and Duelyst exist

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>>390180656
My computer won't load it for some reason, lol. I get stuck at the tavern doors and that's it. I'd play it if I could find a solution but not even the support people at Blizzard have been able to help me :(

>>390197627
It's for the best. The game is shit.

>>390180656
I don't really like Warcraft that much as a series to play Hearthstone.

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>magic 2015
>it's currently 2017

What gives

>>390180656
im playing a better game

>>390188347
what is discover? not played hearthstone for a while

>>390180656

Because I don't want to spend $500 dollars on booster packs and another $100 on raid expansions just so I can have a chance to win in regular play against whales running the latest overpowered cookie-cutter pro deck.

>>390198441
Magic 19 is releasing next year

>>390180656
I started playing Hearthstone this August and quit playing Hearthstone this August.
It just felt like a chore to grind quests, a chore to grind ladder, and you can't experiment while deckbuilding without wasting a fuckton of dust.

>>390198673
You choose from 3 different random cards.
You can only discover from your own class unless stated otherwise in the card text.
For something like Primordial Glyph, it's far better than just getting one random card.

>>390198673
You get 3 random options and have to choose one.
Class cards get preference and have 3 times the chance to show up relative to regular cards or something like that that.

>>390190350
here let me just re summon my deathwing that just died for 2 mana XD

Might I suggest Duelyst

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>>390180656
It's became garbage. It was only good up until BRM

>>390192774
The mechanics really are something else. You can replace a card every turn, think mulliganing in HS. It really makes a huge difference in how you play. Also, I'm glad they introduced more board interaction this latest expansion

>>390195948
I'd agree with that, but honestly it's a really small part of the game. And you stop noticing it very quickly.
It's true that it SHOULD be better, especially with such good pixel art. Seriously, imagine an action game with Duelyst units

>>390200773
>randomness solves it

Lich King, worth crafting?

>>390203692
Yes

>>390180952
during the WotoG expansion HS was arguably the least pay2win ever.
Standart got introduced, so there where less cards players had to grind for
and everyone got a legendary when logging in and about 10 card pacs just by playing some games.
Many cards you got from them made that lagendary better and better.

>card game
lmao

>>390180656
im waiting for artifact

>>390206013
did valve start to work on artifact just because of gwent being gog only?

I don't play Blizzard games.

>>390180656
>have to grind constantly to keep up with the meta
>RNG out the wazoo
>Blizzard balancing
Dropped super hard and never regretted it

>>390180656
I play Magic

>>390196517
>Shadowverse

loving every laugh

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>>390180656
I like instants.

Duelyst is better.

>>390180656
at the start it was fun, then I got bored. Picked it up again some years later and turns out I can't win a single match unless I buy a shitload of packs to make a "competitive" deck. Fuck that.

>>390190124
Hooru control, Argenport Oathbook, and Icaria Blue

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>>390180656
I played it for more than a year but eventually felt like the really slow-paced auto-pilot gameplay is lowering my IQ and making it difficult for me to concentrate on anything

I'm not good at card games. Plus, you gotta have a ton of good cards to be competitive and I don't have any of that but starter shit

>>390180820
fpbp, kill yourself op

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>>390206669
can I offer you a nice fast spell in this trying time?

rng
arena sucks due to rng and payout
ranked is filled with shit and piss

What did I expect though? blizzard already ruined wow already.

>>390180656

I started playing Elder Scrolls: Legends and Eternal and neither of them have the same kind of RNG so they're already better. Legends legitimately surprised me though, its actually pretty well made.

Just biding time for Arenas though.

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>>390180656

After they ruined the meta that was in Ungoro, it went straight to hell regardless of the free adventures. Discover is cancer, dindu priest is fucking lame, MSOG is Ben Brode's subtle way of saying fuck the players.

t. legend once, rank average in standard is 5-2 past few months

this game is truly linear with deck making, too. lol even in wild, with the Naga combo and Priest tearing shit apart.

There may be a balance patch soon, but literally do not expect Blizzard & Ben Brood to bring in any good expansions. They always have to pick up after themselves EVERY expansion, jesus fucking christ.

This is the only Blizzard game I'll ever play. I can't bare anymore shit, Nexon fucked over DFO in the past and was so incompetent and I will not endure another incompetent company.

>>390207258
You only need to break like 5 of those a game, not too bad

>>390207379
Im curious what your experience in other card games is. I've been playing card games for close to 20 years and I share some strikingly different opinions.

Why exactly is KotFT such a horrible followup to UnGoro? I feel like its setting the standard for the game to shape up for long term control games, while giving treats to the midrange players. The druid shifts should slow down jade and allow other aggro decks a chance to mix it up. I dont see the problem really...?

Would you prefer if they expanded Hearthstone to other games? For example, the next expansion could be a Diablo expansion that adds new heroes on top of cards. Would that help?

mean streets of gadgetzan was best expansion imho

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>>390208250

>>390207945
Introducing even more classes would probably create more problems than solutions

>>390180656
I can't wait till MTG arena comes along and destroys this literal gambling addiction simulator.

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>>390208250

I'm already busy with Faeria, Krosmaga and TES:L

>>390207104
6(8?) mana DT is awful even if it's instant

>>390191704
Its really not.

>>390209142
It's 6, and yeah it doesn't see too much play, just in a few control decks to tutor up answers or finishers

The more played tutor is a 4 mana slow spell that tutors for a unit or weapon and gives it +2 attack

>>390180656
Gwent exists

>>390180656
Because Mill Warrior is a thing now and it's the most boring shit to ever exist.

>>390209395
Are the gold weather cards still overpowered?

>>390209395
>fucking elves: the card game
no thanks.

>>390180656
Because it's garbage.

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Hey guys! Heard yall talking about H-stone. New and exiciting Amazon Prime rewards are dropping next month so be sure to keep an eye on that.

Keep on top decking guys!

>>390181198
go to Hearthpwn for great deck lists

Takes up way too much data on my phone for it to be worth it, and I'd rather spend my computer time on dota or /v/ threads.

>>390192584
Don't worry, roaches get their shit pushed in by aggro on the regular.

>2 or 3 weeks without playing
>go play while have lunch because why not
>lose 3 games to bullshit with an arena deck that I had already drafted
>draft a priest deck with 3 legendaries
>lose 2 games to extreme bullshit and rage quit

Not going back for a really long time.

i got legend every season i tried and peaked like top 100

i actually got mad losing and that just isn't fun even if my win rate was postive the shaman memes were so stupid and blizzard never balance correctly or fast enough

>>390193780
I just dink around in ranked, roaches are pretty memey.
If you really want to netdeck, http://seekpowergaming.com has tier lists and junk.

>>390180656
microtransaction riddled trash

>>390198925
500 dollars is a little bit of an stretch don't you think?

>>390207687
pet deck ygo player since 2004- not truly competitive- but try to make the decks I play the most optimal at least.

Also, from Ungoro:
>Hunter was actually viable, even if it was """Midrange Hunter"""
>Jade was checked by Cavern Rogue
>Aggro's check was wallet Paladin
>Only Warlock was the shitter class

But that all changed with Druid- aggro/taunt/jade roamed free and didn't even have a significant counter unless it were Exodia Mage against Jade. And Pirate warrior can only go so far until Plague gets played. KFT's expansion was WAY too overshadowed by this one deck. I really don't understand how they can have Ultimate Infestation, but nerfed CotW back then. I do feel like it will set up the meta for the long run- though for the year I've been playing it- deck lists don't really change enough for my liking- too used to having access to many engines and builds in ygo to stay put with one deck for so long- though this is literally a fast-food tier card game so I shouldn't be expecting so much.

At this point I really don't care about the game. Hearthstone imo is filled with lazy developers.

>THREE years
>18 deck slots
>interface unchanged
>drop an expansion and run away for 4 months unless reddit whines enough
>$1.50 for a digital pack

>>390180656
>Brew up deck with new expansion using fun new cards and trying to make old neglected cards work with new synergies
>Get totally trashed by pirate warrior and jade druid because Blizzard refuses to nerf them after multiple seasons of dominace
>Druid decks are so broken that there are tier lists made with every druid deck being in a tier of their own
Blizzard cannot balance for shit and has never been able to balance for that matter. BW was a happy mistake.

>>390195623
Pokemon TCG is on phones? Well shit i guess its time to play that.

>>390209536
They haven't been over powered in a long time, though they're now creeping back to meta even in their nerfed versions after monster weathers got nerfed a bit and people stopped running abundant clears. They're mainly used to force opponent to row stack and punish that.
>>390209554
Bloede dh'oine

>>390180656
It's a garbage game and a scam for retards.

Whats a good Hunter deck
I built the one that guy got to rank 1 with but im getting curbstomped by every deck
I need a perfect draw to ever pull a win

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>>390180656
I'm playing Krosmaga and I can't get behind Hearthstone's aesthetic.

Because I rather play fucking solitaire.

>>390193441
duel links yugioh is great

>>390207258
>Latest patch notes said they might move it to hall of fame next standard cycle
The nightmare is almost over.

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>Spend roughly 300 dollars to get all the meta relevant decks when the game first came out and up to GvG.
>With the introduction of standard most of my cards get rotated out and now I need to spend even more money to get the other cards from the expansion and stop playing as a result.
>Now a year and a half later if I wanted to play the game again I'd need to spend another couple hundred to get fun meta relevant decks.

Why the fuck would I return with such a barrier to entry?

>>390209639
Who this qt.

>>390212079
lol hell no that game is way more expensive

>>390189072
It will soon Gold cards used to be hexproof basically. Like 99.9999% of people are pretty sure there will be an immunity tag for things, to help fix the problem the gold immunity change did.

>>390209639
Looks like a trap

>>390180656
Because Magic Arena is coming soon and will crush Hearthstone

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Hearthstone is like a gay bar with a cover charge.
You pay to grind

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>>390197627
i had the same problem i was on pc just create a new account/user in pc and don't give it administrative and run hearthstone it worked for me it seems some registry issue i can't figure out

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>>390196517
pic related is the best non-hearthstone ccg, still in alpha though

because hearthstone is an inherently bad card game

If I want an online card game I'll just play pokemon tcgo or wait for wizards to finally get their heads outta their asses and make a good mtg client (arena sure doesn't look like it though)

Within my first 10 minutes, I lost to some shitty mage who kept BMing. Wasn't even good; he had no early game and burst me down at the end. I got screwed by RNG and never looked back.

>>390217013
i guess you're the dude in the upper right corner

>>390180656
Card aquisition is tedious as fuck

>>390182361
It has card scripts, so it's automated. But the UI is shit like in most programs like it.

>>390213368
so you can be the top 5% that shits on everyone else. it's fun being on top until you're not anymore.

>>390203692
Ragnaros is better in every single way (if you play wild)

>>390180656
>>390180656
i have 2000 gold saved up for the next expansion.

OR,

would it be advisable to spend them on the classic packs?

>>390180656
>p2w

>>390190769
devs are ultrajews

art style is tight though i played it for a few months back in beta

>>390219892
same goes for hearthstone actually, apart from the art style