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A NEW MEAT PUPPY TO WEAR

YOU CANT KILL ME I'M ALREADY DEAD TOMORROW

You sat on my swing!
NOW I'M GOING TO EAT YOU!

>>390169243
Why did they have to fuck it up so bad guys?

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I'LL CRACK YOUR MIND OPEN AND BEAT YOUR PROBLEMS TO DEATH!

>>390171607
Which part?

YOU GET A BULLET
YOU GET A BULLET
EVERY BODY GETS A BULLET

>>390171607
hey fuck you borderlands 1 was great

SCOOTER ASKED ME TO TELL ABOUT A LITTLE SOMETHIN SOMETHIN HE NEEDS DONE, YOU SHOULD ASK HIM ABOUT IT

IT'S TIME

FOR MY POUND OF FLESH

>>390171719
Everything after the first game

>>390171826
That was my point

LICK AND SCREAM AND PEE I'M COMING TO MAKE YOU TEETH

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>>390171890
i mean...

I'm gonna play through the Handsome Jack Collection any tips?

>>390173162
If the writing becomes too unbearable, you can turn the dialogue volume down in the options menu.

FORESKIN HATS FOR MY FINGER PUPPETS

TIME TO SCRAPE YOUR FACE FROM MY FINGER NAILS

I loved the atmosphere in the areas surrounding Fyrestone. Going solo was more fun for me

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>>390175486
>Graveyard that you always pass on your way to board
>Only one alive man and little robot
That's kind of depressing. I had a habit of always saying hello to claptrap in fyrestone because he was all alone here.

>>390175486
And then they fucked it up in BL2

>>390173260
Noted.

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I always felt like the atmosphere was ruined in 2. Don't get me wrong, 1 didn't have a amazing story or anything but it felt well for what was there. You were a greedy vault seeking bounty hunter on a backwater shithole planet abandoned by companies leaving mass amounts of people to form little shithole towns or become gangs. You weren't some anti-hero, avenger or a good guy with a score looking to settle - you were just another shitty greedy person on the planet. Pandora really gave you that feeling, the game gave you that feeling - I can't say the same things about 2.

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>When you get an Ajax Ogre to drop

Will Borderlands 1 feel like a major step backwards if I try to go play it after putting 100 hours in the second game?

>>390175486
this

fuck lag

>>390177651
Not really, no.

>>390176393
Gearbox was never good at writing. At least they understood it in BL1 and only wrote a simple story hiding in the background.

>>390177651
Depends. BL1 is better when it comes to weapons. You don't need to grind as much, vendors often have blue or purple weaponary (sometimes even orange) and even lower tier weapons can be used for a longer period of time, before they begin to underperform. The end game balance is also better, since they didn't release extra levels as DLC back then.
Your abilities on the other hand are not as powerful, so you don't need to base your whole playstyle around it.
If you liked BL2's map diversity, then BL1 will disappoint you. You get dust, dust and more dust until the last main story stage, which mixes things up a bit.
The other big shock would be the FOV, which is really low. However you can easily tweak it on PC.

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>>390173162
>>390173260
The writing doesn't really become Unbearable until the Pre-Sequel. There are some tryhard lines in BL2, but none of the groaners are THAT bad, and Handsome Jack is a legitimately good villan.

To understand the writing in The Pre-Sequel, on the other hand, just imagine that the dialogue was written by /v/ doing their best caricature of BattleBorn dialogue.

No Joke, a side quest in the tutorial has a male character getting rejected by a Lesbian (a detail she has made known 3 times already), at which point the male character yells out "FRIENDZONED!!!!". The he later apologizes with a rant about how the term is misogynistic.

I wish I was kidding.

>>390177651
1 doesn't have any of the quality of life changes 2 has (auto-pick up ammo and money, respecing is free, being able to move while downed, DLC actually has fast-travel, etc) but it also has less shit holding it down (don't need to spend a secondary currency to buy SDUs, talent trees are basic but functional and easy to understand, all weapons are functional, linear scaling, and a simple story that isn't obnoxiously shoved in your face).

>>390169243
Handsome Jack is a great antagonist

>>390176393
If you can give Gearbox credit for one thing, they know how to make great environments, and vistas. The Zombie Island Of Dr. Ned is worth replaying for the environments, alone.

I liked the atmosphere in 2 a lot, but they do feel the need to push the whole 'Vault Hunter' thing, even though you don't have much of a reason to give a shit about the Vault anymore. That said, Gearbox is pretty good at pairing distinct locations with great ambient tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y4emYPQj5Y

>>390178739
>Butt Stallion XD

>>390178934
southern shelf ambient always got me back into the game

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>>390178739
Knoxx is better.

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>>390178567
I feel like Pre-Sequel's writing was so shit because Burch didn't get his BAFTA so he stopped trying and forced his agenda.

O, that this too too solid flesh would melt, Thaw and resolve itself into a dew! Or that the Everlasting had not fix'd His canon against self-slaughter! O God! God! How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable, Seem to me all the uses of this world! Fie on't, ah fie, 'tis an unweeded garden, That grows to seed; things rank and gross in nature Possess it merely. That it should come to this! But two months dead, nay not so much, not two, So excellent a king, that was, to this Hyperion to a satyr, so loving to my mother That he might not beteem the wings of heaven Visit her face too roughly. Heaven and earth, Must I remember? Why, she would hang on him, As if the increase of appetite had grown By what it fed on; and yet within a month - Let me think not on't; frailty, thy name is woman - A little month, or ere these shoes were old With which she followed my poor father's body Like Niobe, all tears, why she, even she - O God, a beast that wants discourse of reason Would have mourned longer - married with my uncle, My father's brother, but no more like my father Than I to Hercules. Within a month, Ere yet the salt of most unrighteous tears Had left the flushing in her gall'd eyes, She married. O, most wicked speed, to post With such dexterity to incestuous sheets! It is not, nor it cannot come to good. But break my heart, for I must hold my tongue.

>>390178739
He really does a great job of portraying a character coming progressively unhinged after you kill Angel

I don't know if I can attribute that to Gearbox, though; apparently he ad-libbed a lot of his lines.

Fun Fact: His line at the beginning of the game where he says "Man, these pretzels suck," was actually recorded with a mouth full of pretzels.

>>390179303
He also didn't have Mikey Neumann or any other cowriters to reign him in.

>>390178637
>don't need to spend a secondary currency to buy SDUs
The downside to this is that you have to locate Claptraps here and there that rewards SDUs for repair quests.

There are also 5 that will sometimes reward a second SDU in playthrough 2, but it's not guaranteed, so you may or may not end up with a gigantic inventory when you're all done.

>>390179303
Is he lying or something? Because if you look at the references page on the Borderlands wiki, Borderlands 2 has one of the most monstrously lengthy pages of references in a single type of media I have ever seen.

>>390179303
even if it was just 100, it's still too fucking much

>>390173162
Wilhelm is best boy

Athena and Doppelganger are okay too

>>390171607

I like both BL1 and 2, I thought BL2 was good, it was just a case of a few steps forward, few steps back.

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>>390179303
>>390179548
To be totally fair, he only co-wrote the pre-sequel, so I have no idea what extent he is actually responsible for it.

Pre-sequel lines always felt line an amateur trying to imitate Burch's writing style, and as a result, wound up making it really obnoxious.

Of course, it's also possible that he was given more creative freedom, and that's why the first character you meet is a lesbian, who constantly needs to remind you that she's a lesbian.

>>390179518
>He really does a great job of portraying a character coming progressively unhinged after (OMG PLOT SPOILER THINGY)

I'm not sure about that... I mean, the first thing he does after swearing to brutally murder you is send you on a joke mission and then he pays you to jump off a cliff and kill yourself.

Felt like something he should have done much earlier in the game when he was still the oddball who just wanted you dead because you were a Vault Hunter.

>>390179518
Jack was also voiced by the guy who did the English dub of Cell from DBZ.

>>390179953
Claptrap was surprisingly fun to play, but required some micromanaging.

>>390173162
turn off your brain and enjoy Mr. Bones' wild ride

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>"Hey open up. We need your woman to come out and... give us a hand heheh. Look you really don't want me to come back with Nine Toes. Open the door."
Wat do /v/?

test

>>390180274
MR. B0NES I WANT TO GET OFF YOUR WILD RIDE

>>390180307
>test
Use this next time https://www.4chan.org/banned

>>390180442
N O. YOU NEED TO SOLVE THE RIDDLE

>>390180294
I really liked the unique death effects in BL1.

You know, heads popped, limbs were blown off, faces melted...

BL2 gave us generic death animations and a few mediocre elemental ones. Wish they hadn't gotten lazy with it.

>>390180191
I feel like the suicide mission actually fit the character progression. He's still a sarcastic jackass throughout the game, but after that point, his quips become a lot more vitriolic and mean-spirited.

Case-in-point: When he messages you with Roland's echo device after dies.

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I really
really
really
want to fuck Claptrap(1 only, 2 doesn't exist)

>>390179518
>game has in-game explanation for player characters coming back after dying
>story still treats death as a serious and irreversible thing
it'll never not be stupid

>>390180635
I hate how they removed the gore elements from 1. It's not like there was a good reason to remove it either.

>>390180673
Eh, maybe I'm just not remembering it correctly then. I'll be playing it again before long anyhow -- fired up BL1 again a couple days ago and currently clearing out Ned's zombies in playthrough 1.

Running Mordecai currently, any suggestions for when I give 2 another go? Last time it was Salvador. Was thinking Gaige, as I'm getting attached to sending out a pet to murder things.

>>390180834
Too right, m8.

Especially since Hyperion are the ones bringing you back in the first place

>>390180635
The elemental kills from the second game onward is what really kills me. BL1 actually runs better on most PCs and looks better (the smoke particle effect is still the best one in any game I have personally played). BL2's "Phys X effects" are complete shit that causes the already blatant texture pop ins to cause the game to chug despite being runable on a toaster, and the "blood pudding" it brings makes the gore effects seem like they're outright missing instead of being bad.

Also, those Crimson Lance death screams were fucking great.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLtZ0fCAkOs&t=97s

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>>390179518
He also voiced announcer in the elevator in silent hill 2
Very brief role but man that sounds great

>>390181053
Gaige is by far my favorite character. Anarchy is unlike anything else in the base game and extremely fun.

>>390181053

Gaige is pretty fun with her whole Anarchy gimmick. It definitely helps kill things faster and keeps your guns a bit more relevant longer since Anarchy gives you big damage buffs if you can keep it up.

Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfO5hq0rcc0

>In BL1 you can use the very first weapon you get all the way to the end of the game. It sucks, but you do deal damage with it.
>In BL2 the very first weapon you get is completely and utterly obsolete by the time you get to the second main area. You will not be able to kill even a simple enemy with full ammo capacity because the damage falls off so much.
Why did they change the numbers so much? It's not healthy at all from a gameplay balance perspective.
I didn't play the presequel but I assume it was just as bad.

love that turret

>The only good borderlands game wasn't even made by Gearbox
How and why

>>390179518
That's the thing. Jack is actually a shitty villain with no real or clear motive or character and was just as low quality as the rest of the game. *But* his voice actor; Dameon Clarke, is a fantastic actor, and he improvised most of Jack's script. That's where the illusion of "Jack is a great villain" comes from. It's not even a bad thing, at least someone cared enough to put some quality in the game, it's just bizarre that it came from the voice talent. Because normally in these projects they're involvement is minimal enough to where all they have to do is record without knowledge of the rest of the project and collect their paycheck.

>>390181564

Because if it ain't broke you may as well change it until it fucks everything up.

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>>390181564
Normies are impressed by big numbers.
TPS is a actually a little more sane with its scaling.

It's like Christmas.

>>390181053
I never cared for Salvador - found gunzerker to be too situational. Gaige is fun if you have people to play with, but Krieg gets pretty good after Level 12 or so. Once you get skills that reward you for dying via suicide bombing, you have a legitimate reason to charge directly into firefights

>>390180090
>Of course, it's also possible that he was given more creative freedom, and that's why the first character you meet is a lesbian
Pretty much. The writers wanted to make "a friendly, likable, not-homicidal character for the player to befriend" Burch got involved and made her a lesbian, which honestly wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't paired with some seriously cringy and poor writing in other areas.

>>390181867

I actually liked Janey in BorderTales. She's terrible in BLPS.

>>390179303
We broke him, didn't we?

>>390181859
Yeah, Salvador wasn't the best choice.

Ah, Krieg... nearly forgot about his suicide buff route. Might have to toss a coin between him and Gaige.

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>Tiny Tina and Lilith have both died in a car accident before the start of 3
please

>>390179227
yeah. knoxx was shill and just doing his job.

>>390181859
>Gunzerking situational
>Grog + literally anything with decent DPS and you're invincible
>Lady fist plus anything and you crit for 800%
Gunzerking is insane when you have the right items.

>>390181859
>found gunzerker to be too situational
That final dlc slag pistol from that dwarf quest made you unironically invincible for the duration.

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>claptrap used to be an annoying little robot just trying to help out travelers
>anthony "faggot" burch turned him into a literal walking meme spouter

You know that feeling of 2nd degree embarrassment? I had that for a majority of my playthrough of BL2.

What the fuck happened guys. Where did things go so wrong.

i miss the evil smasher glitch and the axton speed glitch

Borderlands 1 is better than 2.

2 have too much eyecandy weird areas and funky shit.
B1 had nice rusty and dirty locals and overall grimy feel.


I hope B3 is more like B1, but with deeper systems.

>>390182143
>Lilith
Why?

I really dig the atmosphere in first Borderlands. Pandora truly felt like a ass end of the universe with all the old machinery scattered around.

>>390181564
>In BL2 the very first weapon you get is completely and utterly obsolete by the time you get to the second main area. You will not be able to kill even a simple enemy with full ammo capacity because the damage falls off so much.

This is how a game based on loot should be.

>>390181632
I get what you mean about the lack of clear motivation. Like, what exactly did Jack want with the Vault? I hope it wasn't just lust for power, because that would be the biggest cop-out cliche. Best I can come up with is he was just another Mega-Corporate jackass to wanted wealth and power, until you kill Angel, at which point he just wants revenge.

They tried playing that angle that he "Wanted to civilize the borderlands," but it was never really developed all that well, and it always came off as a facade from the get-go.

That being said, the performance was so good, I never really noticed the lack of motivation.

>>390182635
She starts shit and gets a lot of people killed with her arrogance. The main conflicts in BL2 and Pre-sequel are started because of her.

>>390181859
>instantly recover 50% health
>constantly regen health and ammo
>two guns for insane dps

Are you retarded?

I just finished about the latter half of the campaign recently. Is it too recent to start a Krieg run? Female Psycho playable character when?

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>>390182603
>friend plays axton with speed glitch
>I'm playing Gaige with shield glitch
Good times.

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>wurmwater battle music
>wam bam island music

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So /v/, what characters did you play in each game (if you did)?

I went with:
BL1 - Lilith
BL2 - Maya
BLtPS - Athena

>>390183308
1 roland
2 all characters except kreig and gaige, axton
3 all, mained wilhelm

>People seriously thinking jack was anything more than a shitty excuse for a nemesis.

At no fucking point I ever saw him as a notable character. He just comes off a a worthless schizophrenic idiot with a bigger hole in his head than brains or balls. He's nothing more than more xp for your character.

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>>390183308
BL1: stated with Roland but played the other three later.
BL2: Krieg and Maya
TPS: one complete playthrough with Wilhelm but I stopped partway through with Athena

>>390183308
>Roland
>Krieg
>Jack Double

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>>390183308
BL1 - Mordecai
BL2 - Axton/Gaige
TPS - Wilheim/Clone Jack

>>390183308
BL1- Roland
BL2- Axton

I don't even know who the rifle guy is in tps.

>>390183308
BL1 : roland
BL2 : axton
BLtPS : never did.

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>>390178934
Zombie Island was and still is my favorite Borderlands dlc. The music and atmosphere kept me going. Even the autistic zombie brain collector questline was a breeze because it was so satisfying popping one zombie head after another. Only thing I desired out of the dlc was a questline IN the hospital.

>>390178567
you're missing out all the context (mainly that the male character is MISTER TORGUE) cuz it's actually kind of funny
but /v/ hates anything borderlands and says that the first one is the best even though everything looks the same the gun system is worse it's repetitive as shit etc

>>390183308
All of them.

>>390183308
Lilith/Maya and Axton/Claptrap, Athena and Whilem

>>390182642
I believe they kept and refined this aesthetic in BL2, but made it more luxurious, more beautiful and more alive.
You almost want to live in some area of BL2.

>>390184038
Dr. Ned's island was great.

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>>390184138
Torgue was actually cool before Anthony started using him as his personal mouth piece in Dragon Keep and the Pre-Sequel.

>>390181053
>Not playing BLASTMASTER BRICK
>Not having exploding knuckles
>Not running around with full auto rocket launchers that regenerate ammo
>Not being a literal god within the borderlands

Why do you even bother?

>>390182749
The thing that really kills me is that there's enough unanswered things about him where they could have developed that later, but then never bothered. TPS exists for the sole purpose of explaining Jack better and completely ignores the only actual question about him; "why did he literally enslave his daughter"?

Even when he was a shitty, tolerated at best, code monkey turned middle management because of his guess about Pandora, he apparently had enough money to buy a body double and pay for him to have cosmetic surgery and a complete vocal chord change. And his office in the Helios station already looks like what you'd see a Bond villain have.

He apparently always had money, he had no real reason to give a shit about "civilizing the borderlands" because opportunity would have just been his own Orwellian city anyway, and he already had enough power to the point where Hyperion personnel were saying "Jack damn it" instead of goddamn it. If revenge was his goal, then why was he even bothering with the Warrior in BL2? The first thing established about Sanctuary is that it could be overrun literally any time Jack felt like putting boots on the ground, and that he had other priorities with the vault key. If it was revenge for the pointless and poorly executed betrayal in TPS, why would he even wait for the Warrior if all the people he personally wants dead are in one place that he can raze on a whim?

I don't know how much they paid Dameon, but it will never be enough. Both him and Sega are the only reasons Gearbox lasted long enough to kill themselves with Battleborn.

>>390183308

BL1: Played all of them, did some PS3 co-op with a friend as Lilith, beat the game as Mordecai on PS3 and Brick on PC, doing another playthrough as Roland on PC
BL2: Did some co-op on PS3 with a friend as Maya, beat the game on PC as Zero, doing another playthrough as Gaige
BLPS: Current playthrough as Wilhelm, having trouble stomaching the writing.

3 when

>>390180834
Thosw revive stations are not cannon. Just a cute little joke about Hyperion monetizing your death and a way to respawn instead of having checkpoints and shit

>>390185052
They were canon in BL1. It's literally why Knoxx was suicidal enough to end it so he wouldn't have to be on Pandora anymore, and was still there at his post.

>>390184502
>Torgue

the only thing he did right was his shotguns.

>>390181236
Yeah BL2 will sometimes shit the bed on my rig that can run witcher 3 at max settings. what did they do?

>>390183308
BL1-Mordecai
BL2-Maya/Zer0
>Presequel

>>390185373
It baffles me. The game is on the same engine, but it's like they started from complete scratch between BL1 and BL2, with a significantly less talented coding team.

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>>390183308
>BL1
Lilith
>BL2
Bloodlust/Hellborn Krieg
>TPS
Nisha and despite having a cool gimmick, I deeply regret every single second of my life I spent in this trash fire. pic related

>>390185596
They probably exaggerated the cel shading in 2 which makes the engine use more resources.

>>390184138
>cuz it's actually kind of funny
No, you're just kind of retarded.

>>390185937
You might be onto something. The black line removal edit from the .ini file was the difference between 120fps and uncapped on a 2Gb GTX 1080.

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>>390185793
what in the goddamn FUCK

>>390185793
Yo get help.

Who else exclusively used machine with with 10/5 metal storm to hit the fire rate cap and rape the framerate

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>>390186130
>>390186247
2/14/2017 was a miss-click on the Install button. When I say that TPS has absolutely nothing to offer or any value. Fucking believe me. I scoured every single possible outcome of that collective dumpster fire of human competency so YOU never have to.

I did every class, every quest, every alternative reward, every side quest, every challenge, and I even got 3 of my friends to join me in what felt like a goddamn suicide pact so I could test co-op. Twice even. No, a 4 player Claptrap run does NOT make this shit bearable. Please for the love of god, never play this shitwreck. Just don't.

>>390183308

>BL1
Gunslinger Mordecai

>BL2
Axton with skill tree focused on your turret

>BLtPS
Dropped the game hard but I remember playing melting everything with Jack

>>390185128
>what is a retcon

>>390183308
>BL1
All of them Mordecai is still my favourite
>BL2
Zero, Gaige and Axton. Started a playthrough with Krieg, but uninstalled the game halfway.
>TPS
Athena, Misha and Claptrap. Wanted to play the others as well, but again uninstalled the game.

>>390187029
Bloodwing was male in BL1 and said to be female in BL2. Instead of saying "oops, my mistake" and moving on, Anthony insisted that Bloodwing's species changes gender halfway through it's lifespan.

A retcon would be a reasonable explanation, but it would also require benefit of the doubt, which Gearbox has demonstrably proven they can't be given.

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Remember, if it took more than one shot, you weren't using a Jakobs!

>>390187685
>remember if it took more than one shot, you're playing Borderlands 2
FIFY

>>390182749
>>390184863
Tales from the boarderlands has more jack, he's become an AI ghost so he's story isn't over.

>>390187343
Snails kindoff do that
It's a bit weird and is typically Anthony Burch but that could pass

>>390187343
>Anthony insisted that Bloodwing's species changes gender halfway through it's lifespan
What?

>>390187807
So /v/, who is the best manufacturer? And why is it S&S Munitions?

>>390187901
I genuinely hope the "kill Jack" ending is canon. The Alien Civilization stuff is finally coming back, and that was always more interesting than the Corporation Wars that overtook the series after BL1. Whatever it was, I don't care anymore. Just leave it unanswered and move on. It won't be an explanation that can ever be satisfying and dwelling on it any longer is a waste of time on the developer's part.

>>390187901
Real spoilers
Jack is dead no matter the """"choices"""" you make - either he is reduced to haunting a pathetic cybernetic implant lost in the desert without anybody living remotly near it, or he is physically destroyed.
TFB is good but I goddamn hate how Telltales misuses the word choice - those have no fucking impact at all

>>390188181
It's S&S Munitions.

>>390187343
You clearly don't know what a retcon is, jackass.

>>390188251
I loved that aspect of the series and think it goes perfectly hand-in-hand with the other.

It just got butchered hard by Gearbox's meymey writing. Under his completely bland and uninteresting surface Borderlands could have a rather interesting lore, as shown by TFB.

>>390169243
I miss Borderlands 1's way of handling the story. Had a nice balance of seriousness and dark humor, and didn't have someone talking through your ear all campaign long.

I enjoyed Borderlands 2 and even Pre-Sequel, but they had too much talking, and were way too comedic, even during the more serious moments. Alongside this, the humor wasnt mainly dark comedy anymore either, throwing in a lot of sex jokes, cringe humour, and pop-culture references into the mix as well.

>play Borderlands 2 in Japanese
>nearly every character is improved
>don't have to listen to the shitty dialog

Only downsides are Jack and Torque don't sound as good.

>>390188381
Retroactive continuity. It helps frame later events in fictional work by altering the perspective of previous events. It's literally the answer to "what did they mean by this" for a utility purpose in writing.

An animal's gender is not a question that can have it's answer changed by context. Are you sure you knew what a retcon meant before you asked? Either way, the issue isn't whether it's a retcon or not, the problem is that the writing staff barely knew anything about BL1 and lazily explained mistake as an intentional retcon. That's annoying to some.

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'If it ain't a Jakobs, I'd rather be dead.'

>>390187807
I hated that BL2 made the manufacturers super gimmicky. Preferred it when it was simply just specific stats specialisation.

Hyperion weapons were my favorite in BL1, where as I almost always discarded them away in BL2 if it wasnt a shotgun.

>>390189450
>Used to the manufacturer for precise/reliable/quality weapons
>Impossible to use any of their sniper guns

>>390189450
S&S was my favorite because mowing down a mob with DPS felt great, especially with elemental kills. To be fair, Tediore's gimmick in BL2 was great. Albeit the only one worth a damn.

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>LOOK AT ALL THOSE CHISELLED JAWS

Doppelganger was fucking ace, only thing making the pre-sequel worth playing.

>>390189450
Hyperion is great in BL2.

>>390181564

Sledge's Shotgun never left my equipped guns until I got it again in TVHM. Easily one of my favorite guns in video games.

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>>390190136
>Hyperion is great in BL2.

>you need to waste half of your bullets just to shoot straight
>BL2 doesn't have any Hyperion assault rifles

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Borderlands 2 was my absolute favorite, lots of great memories from that game. Handsome Jack is probably my favorite villain in all of gaming. Borderlands 1 will always be the best nostalgia trip though.

>>390190502
It only takes 5/6 shots before they start getting accurate.

Assault rifles are trash anyway so that's not a problem.

>>390190136
It was good for shotguns. Everything else was fucking garbage.

>>390190848
>It only takes 5/6 shots
>only

Thats too much.

>>390169243
>First time I play borderlands is with bud
>it's dead summer. No ac
>couch co-op
>go Roland he goes mordecai
>felt so good playing that game in the heat.
>I made the best combat support I could
>he tried to make a commando sniper
>we played through all the doc
>never tried to outplay or out loot each Other
>constantly supporting each Other
>share guns that we are best suited for
>best time ever
>hanging out late into the night, covering each Other when the other would go get drinks

>borderlands 2
>First play it in winter with same friend
>axton (i know) and zero were made for us
>at first we're too use to playing competitive games
>play at separate houses
>even would grab separate vehicles
>not having fun
>slowly realize we have the most fun when we fight right next to each other.
>he comes over now
>we travel together, take turn as driver and gunner
>share loot, build characters that compliment each other.
>change character to look like some spec ops government spooks
>the fun is back
>we are a deadly duo
>basically a moving meat grinder
>play all the dlc
>have my turrets protect us while we take shots.
>he keeps his decoy in the kill zone enemies drawn right into the kill zone

The games are garbage if you're not couch co-oping with a bro

>>390191595
Their pistols/SMGs always have around 30 shots. Negative recoil is fantastic. You just don't know how to use them.

>>390183308
>BL1
Mordecai initially, Brick main for majority of play

>BL2
Maya initially, switched to Krieg after he was released and never looke dback

>BLtPS
Started first playthrough this week, going Clap with friends taking Athena, Baroness and Sheriff girl.
Was thinking of Wilhelm but co-op play is much more interesting with random rubber duckies

>>390192008
Solo is fine IMO, but coop is definitely more fun.

>>390192226
There were far better pistols/SMGs from other manufacturers.

>>390181632
>>390182749
Jack says multiple times that he wants to use the Vault to kill all the bandits on Pandora and turn it into a paradise.

>>390192680
Not most of the time.

DUDE BONERFARTS LMAO

>>390193157
Yes most of the time, actually. Have you actually tried other manufacturers, or did you just suck Hyperions dick throughout your playthrough?

>>390184863
>why did he literally enslave his daughter
Because her powers were out of control and she ended up accidentally killing her own mother.

>>390190576
Thinking about pirating this just to replay it..
is it worth it. I don't have any friends who would be able to (or probably willing to) play it with me so i really dont want to pay for it, but I haven't played borderlands alone since the first one.

>>390192349
You're a faggot

I'm kidding. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just couldn't stay invested alone.

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>>390192226
What makes reverse recoil so much better than just having really accurate guns?

I hate the assault rifles in 2. They just feel like shittier SMGs. The combat rifles in 1 hit like a truck when you got the burst fire working your way.

>>390193748
>pirating
>is it worth it
You mean, is it worth spending nothing to play a game to decide if you like it? Yeah.

It's also probably worth just spending the $5 for the GOTY edition when it goes on sale.

Not so much worth it for all the DLC outfits, unless you catch them at 90% off and have cash to waste on 200 cosmetic things you might never use.

>>390193890
Reverse recoil means they're the most accurate and stay that way the longest.

>>390182061
no that's just how he talks
you should have been able to guess based on how he writes.

>>390194484
I mean I've already owned and beaten all three multiple times, I've just never had a pc until recently. I was intending to ask if they're any good on pc control-wise, I don't have a controller.

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>>390183308
>B1:
Lilith
Completed the game with Mordecai

>BL2:
Maya
Completed the game with both Gaige and Krieg
Completed Vault Hunter story mode with Gaige.

>Prequel
Have yet to play it.

Out of all the characters I've played, Krieg is the most fucking fun I've had with any of the characters. Krieg made me convinced that Borderlands is in desperate need of a least a weapon sub-class with melee alongside with guns.

BORDERLANDS ANIME WHEN

How about a Saturday morning cartoon even

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>>390198153
I'd rather have more comics.

>>390195732
If you can make the transition from controller to keyboard and mouse, you'll do just fine.

Personally, I prefer KBM controls and aiming over controller.

>>390190157
Amazingly fun gun. The boss thats on the oil refinery thing you have to elevator too? Yeah shot that clint eastwood knock off way the fuck off with that gun. Maximum hilarity.

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>>390198430
>Brick has hair

>>390197062
Even as a Brick veteran I agree Krieg just went so much further and better with the melee game.

For Brick melee only felt useful when in rage and it was a case of rage when you could get to the mobs in time and hope your tank held out.

Krieg it was a case of run in slashing and hit berserk the moment your health hit that pivotal point of low enough.
It was like a dance jumping from mob to mob health yoyo-ing up and down as each kill healed you to full and you had to ensure you were ready to jump back in once your timer was up.

Too slow to reach a mob? Can't feel where things are due to self-hit glare? Hit that berserk button too early or too late and the fun was over leading to death or boredom with waiting on the stock cooldown.

Also provided great entertainment for any co-op partners watching the carnage

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>get handsome collection
>it has presequel and not bl1
fucking why

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>>390199621
It doesn't have Handsome Jack in it.

>claptrap is pretty much literally me
Is this a bad thing?
also shotgun zer0 is fun

>>390200465
Pre or post Burch era Claptrap?

>>390200649
I guess a mix of both, i'm thankfully not a meme spouting fucktard, but i am almost everything else.

>>390198430
Those comics were better than they had any right to be.

>>390182892
What did Lilith do to start the conflicts of BL2 And pre-sequel?

>>390200981
There's nothing wrong with using a lot of memes as long as they're high quality memes. I regularly slip in Deus Ex lines no matter who I'm talking to.

So is there any chance of BL3's writing being better now that Burch has left gearbox

>>390201917
0

>>390201917
Mikey Neuman was writing it and Randy promised the tone will be more inline with 1

>>390181790
>f-fucking normies!!! REEE
nice fanfiction faggot

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>>390183308
BL1 release: Mordecai
BL2 release: Zero
Went back to BL2 and played Maya
Went back to BL1 and played Lillith

tps or borderlands 2 scaling i liked tps more

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God I love krieg.

Honestly I think I am going to reinstall just to play him. He was simply perfect and I hope I can experience what a suicidal mad man with a good soul like again some day.

For as much as I hate gearbox (pic related) I love krieg. To make note yes his poop lines are terrible and simply the worst, There is a deeper character there and I only wish they could expand on it in a positive way (its gearbox so no 100% not going to happen.) OR a new character in the same vein. It doesn't even have to be an fps. I just want more of the character type if anything.

I know for as much of a meme it is to hate borderlands and how any passing complement spurs autists but I do believe krieg was one of the few if not the only good thing about the series.

>play a bit of BL2 years ago
>didn't like it, seemed like none of my guns did anything, even at early levels
>get BL1 a few days ago
>fucking love it.

I'm kind of upset I like playing as Lilith the most knowing what they do to her.

>>390203406
His trailer is legitimately fucking great.

>>390169243
Your game is bad.

>>390179303
Congratulations Anthony you managed to NOT put memes on the 500 versions of "wagh"

>>390172196
>flies eat shit everyday why dont you?