The Great Debate

>>390141731
PC requires a slightly larger up fron investment, but works out cheaper in the long run.

A new console is 1/4-1/3 cheaper than a PC, but will run up your costs tremendously over the long run.

It kinda just depends on what I wanna play
I'm on a toaster now and get a lot of use out of it, I play pretty much all games from 2005 and before and get great framerates, but I would get the console if I wanted exclusives and somewhat newer games

Depends if I need the PC or not for work or if the console is a Switch, because the Switch is more powerful than any PC considering its weight so it defeats the entire argument.

>>390141731
>gimped pc or unupgradable gimped pc
Let me think.

>>390142363
>the switch is more powerful than any pc
>>>>>>considering its weight

How did you even manage to make a link between the two

>>390141731
Depends what games you want to play. The whole PC vs console wars only matter if you play multiplats and want the definitive version. I don't care for most PC exclusives so I'd probably use that $200 for a PS4.

>>390142516
OP is suggesting they're comparable by asking me which I want. I have to factor weight into that equation. Would I buy a bus-sized frankenstein PC rig from 2005 for $200 as long as I was able to get more power for that amount than buying a smaller build? Size and power usage are everything in tech.

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>>390141731
I spend it on a-OK tier used gaming PC, and use the rest of the money on a more modern, low-power GPU, running everything at 1080p / 60fps once again.

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>>390141731
>$200 budget

Lets just say that you can't actually afford to play videogames

>>390144183

>Core 2 Duo
>Running new games at 60fps, regardless of GPU

Nice meme. CPU bottleneck is the biggest beginners trap there is.

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There's more to a platform than power. There's comfort, easy of use, library, etc.
If you mainly play games on couch and hate fiddling with settings to get an optimal experience, you wanna get a console.

PC has a far better library, is entirely customizable, and even can't be hooked up to your tv (but it wasn't made to be). You might be autistic like I am and find you only like to play a game on what it was designed to be on first. So I play Xcom on PC but I play Nier on PS4.

I also get infuriated when I have to make something work. Dedicated devices circumvent these issues. PCs are meant to do a lot more first.

Up to you. Consider everything.

>>390145271
can be made to hook up to your tv*

>PC
>1000$ upfront
>all games are free

>console
>400$ upfront
>50-80$ per gaem
Basically, if you plan on playing a lot of videogames, PC is a better investment

>>390141731
>You have $200
At this point you have to stop playing games and get to fucking work.

>>390141731
>$200
what exactly are you trying to buy here?

>>390144183
>6gb ram ddr2
>core 2 duo

This thing is fucking garbage. You won't be able to run most modern games on this thing at a consistent 60 fps at 1080p. My i5 4690k is already showing signs of old age in some games which tax the fuck out of the cpu and it ends up making me lose fps

>>390145060
it's clocked at 3.66ghz, no matter what speccy claims. MGS5, Talos Principle, RS2: Vietnam, ... all run smooth as butter on this thing at 1080p, now that I swapped the ancient AMD to GTX 750. Way better deal than any console out there at the moment, and I could always slap in a quadcore CPU of same type if needed + up the RAM.

>>390145474
You don't even need to shell 1000 bucks on a new PC, unless you want to go above 1080p/60fps.
PC also allows you to tweak settings, mod games, and upgrade individual components, meaning they can last way longer.

Also, you totally forgot the monthly fees for online gaming on consoles, and the 50-70 buck peripherals.

>>390145474
can't you just pirate on console too?

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>>390145603
>You won't be able to run most modern games on this thing at a consistent 60 fps at 1080p
Wrong.
I *do* run modern games on this thing, all the time. I'm not too anal about constant 60+ fps or "Ultra" settings though, but majority of games I've tested have no problems getting ~60 at 1080p, med-high combos.

>>390145474
Eh, it's more like
>PC
>1000$ upfront
>all games are free

>console
>400$ upfront
>wait until said console is hacked and can play "backups"
>all games are free

>>390145573
>>390145580
It's just a scenario. Most people say pc is only worth it because of 60fps capability but a $200 pc won't be able to do that the vast majority of the time in most games so that's where the console argument comes in

Upgraded my rig a year ago but I still find myself playing mostly on my PS4. PC is mainly for Total War and grand strategy.

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>>390141731
I would take the toaster. Way more games to play and also they can be free if you want them to be. I can play all the old classics from atari 2600 to the PSX. Also with enough tinkering in the .ini files you can even get some newer games to run fine but look like shit.

>>390145856
well for 200 bucks you'll atleast get some kind of PC I'm sure but 200 bucks wont get you a current gen console

>>390145856
>It's just a scenario.
That's intentionally made retarded because you want to make the console look better.

>>390145841
This re7? This game runs at 60 fps on both the Xbox and ps4.

tons of people on youtube were able to make a nice pc with 200 even if they had to buy used discounted and computer warehouse parts

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>>390141731
>tfw a high-end gaming PC from 2009 is a "toaster" now and can be found for 200 bucks or less
>tfw could run Crysis, STALKER, GTA4-5, MGS5... etc, smoothly, meaning big chunk of modern shit would run OK too
I don't understand why more people don't get prev-gen gaming PCs all the time. They're fucking inexpensive yet plenty powerful to get your feet wet with the master-race gaming.

>>390146058
at interlaced 900p + all low settings, that go even lower at VR.

>>390146045
How? Some people only want to spend a couple hundred bucks on their platform of choice. Most console players will tell you that they don't want to spend a lot of money on a modern pc hence why they just opted for the $200 console

>>390146197
They're both 1080p

>>390146197
and a ok laptop still costs a fortune

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>>390146058
>This re7? This game runs at 60 fps on both the Xbox and ps4.
Yes, it's RE7.
And console versions do not run at progressive 1080p, and have laughably low textures and other effects compared to PC's medium settings.

>>390141731
If i was that broke I would get the PC and pirate all the games. There's a lot of great new games like Rimworld that don't need much to run and can be endlessly entertaining. I have way more hours in Rimworld than any AAA game I own.

>>390144968
This, just buy a psone or something.

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>>390146371
1080i, actually. With TAA.
PC lets you switch to progressive, but it almost doubles the stress on the GPU.


The pic at >>390146575 is progressive rendering (or 1:1), while this one is same scene with interlacing enabled. If you open the pictures up in separated tabs and compare them full size, side by side, you'll notice how much blurrier the interlacing is.

I limited my framerate to 50 manually, just to reduce the annoying drops in some sections.

>>390145271
>hook PC up to tv
>connect your favorite console's controller
>???

Only real mouth breathers cant handle installing a game and clicking the fucking icon to play. But, if you're that stupid that you have to just press the X button to get your game going, the. Yah. Consoles are for you.

>>390141731
>$200
if thats how much im willing to pay for a gaming platform then it basically means im poor and can't afford paying for games later on or just not much into gaming in general
either way, PC is the obvious choice for me, you can pirate vast majority of games, and you can use it for internet browsing

>>390145891
>PSX
Fucking kill yourself.

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>>390146862
Nah i'll go play some PSX instead.

>>390146948
Ps* or ps1* actually :)

>>390141731
Maaybe you should be spending your time at work or looking for work instead of videogames if you can't afford them.

>>390141906
>A new console is 1/4-1/3 cheaper than a PC, but will run up your costs tremendously over the long run.
Source? Citation? My console was a one of cost and now i buy games for it at no more than £40

>>390141731
>buy $200 toaster
you can play video games on it
>$200 consoles
no games included. sounds like shit
also this is objectively true>>390141906

>>390141731
>Is a PC only worth buying if you can consistently hit the sweet spot 60 fps?
I was in this exact situation 1 year ago and i bought a PC.There are so many good older games that i've played since then.

Consoles simply can't compete.

>>390147087
yeah and I buy PC games at no more than $20. not to mention that I don't pay for online.

I mean I have all the consoles too but they're temporary things to have until I finish playing the exclusives. My PC has 99% of my library

>>390141731
The ONLY advantage of console gaming is either initial price is low (but then you get fucked on game price/ becomes obsolete), or COUCH COOP

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>>390145474
ALL games are free? I feel there is a "just" coming in the reply...

>>390147453
Only advantage I see are exclusibes which are being kept away from others basically to sell the console. *coughzeldacough*

>>390141731
Hmm let's see
>can play Jagged Alliance 2
>can't play Jagged Alliance 2

>>390146424
>laptop
why'd you do that?

Consoles are for extroverts and PCs are for introverts

>>390147453
>COUCH COOP
which is why the xbone is objectively better than a ps4, because it has rare replay and MCC

>>390141731
Console because PC has no games

>>390147630
I like your priorities anon.

>>390145841
I also run REVII at 60fps 1080 on my PS4

>>390146197
It's 1080

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>>390148026
Screen resolution, yes.
Rendering resolution, especially on normie-PS4 and Xbone? No.

>>390147221
So when a game like Tekken 7 came out this year, it was available to you for £20?

>>390145271
Nier was designed on PC first, retard.

>>390148247
She still looks like a fucking ghoul no matter the system. This is RE we're talking about and it has zero fuckable females, aside from the granny of course. Shameful, CAPCOM.

>>390148247
PS4 looks just like PC

>>390148295
>buying new games
only console users do this because they don't have anything else to play

>>390148472
you literally blind, or just easily impressed?

>>390148436
True that. But apparently, 7 was written and designed by a bloody yank, which explains a lot.

>>390141731
Okay, here I will explain to you which one and why is the superior video game system:

Short answer: Who the fuck cares?

Long answer: Only permavirgin faggots care.____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

>>390148419
All games are design on pc, the fuck is your point?. It doesn't mean it was made specifically for pc

>>390149062
I don't know why I chuckled.

>>390148979
Are you actually fucking retarded?

>>390149265
Nier was.

>>390149021
>le ebin get your eyes checked meme

Funny how when the same images btfo PC versions mustards rush to say it's retarded to compare doctored youtube screencaps.

>>390141731
I'd build a PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGf-25RB3uM

>>390148295
I pirated that game lol.

>>390149294
He's not wrong. Every PC gamer has a backlog of hundreds of games he can play at any time.

>>390149390
Provide lossless PS4 screenshots, with performance shown too if possible, and I can try to do a PC comparison on the same part.

From what I've seen, console versions look VERY washed out and waxy. Cutscenes tend to use higher poly models for animations though.

>>390149278
Because the truth is funny

>>390149410
>*build

Sounds so grand for what actually goes down, but i suppose when you clip lego together we do also call that "building lego"

>>390149294
no I'm not. People who main PC hardly EVER worry about picking up new games because maybe once a year there's one worth getting at launch. We have hundreds of games in our baclogs ready to play so the idea of new games isn't that exciting. Modern consoles, especially with no backwards compatibility, have such a small and pathetic library that people who use them as their main gaming device are forced to rely on the promise of new games being fun and exciting and are forced to look forward to them

for me I have every console but only for their exclusives and I'll sell them when I'm done with them because they're worthless otherwise

>>390141731
You won't be able to buy a $200 console here, even converted over to AUD so... neither?

>>390149503
>every

Why are you making retarded anecdotal statments? Oh, all console gamers har massive backlogs, you cannot refute this now, because i claimed it!

>>390149769
well I can refute that claim because it's physically impossible

This is a shit scenario. $200 is fucking potato-tier for a PC. Literally worthless. And no console retails for $200 right now.

The value of PC comes with how much you initially invest into it. Sure, the initial investment is more than the price of console, but you get better graphics, better performance, more customization (mods/settings/controller choices), free online, bigger library of games (current gen games, entire genres virtually exclusive to PC like grand strategy and isometric WRPGs, older PC games, older console games via emulation), cheaper games (sales/piracy), etc. The only thing console has to offer (besides the lower initial investment) is the (relatively small) exclusive library locked to their platform. The benefits of PC outweigh the setback of having to pay more upfront. And even if you skimp out on a few things upfront, you always have the option of upgrading your build later on. With console, you have to wait for the next console revision (or the next gen), and buy another unit altogether.

Sidenote, it's disgraceful that people are actually hyping the Xbone X as "teh strongest console evar!!! it's le stronger than an equivalently priced PC!!! first time in history that's ever happened!!!" No it's not the first time, you imbeciles. Consoles at launch are typically stronger and cheaper than equivalently priced PCs, but PCs advance so rapidly that the prices drop considerably, and newer stronger components are always coming out. The N64 was stronger than a $200 PC by 1996 standards. The OG Xbox was stronger than a $300 PC by 2001 standards. The PS3 was stronger than a $600 PC by 2006 standards. This is nothing new.

>>390149815
No sweetie, your mom fitting through the front door is physically impossible.

>>390149769
It's a fact though. The average amount of games a player owns on Steam is that high, and we all know people are into piracy and emulation and old games and GOG and Origin and Uplay on top of that.

The average amount of games a modern console gamer has these days is under 10.

>>390141731
he getting a ps2!
but seriously NO GAEMS

PC plays the entire back catalog and current at lower res

>>390149583
Your entire fucking argument is PC is cheaper because you simply steal the games or wait long enough till the new games are bargain bin tier. Reeks of poverty.

>>390149946
Xbox One is 200.

There's no debate, PC is objectively better. Especially now that we get 99% of all PS4 exclusives. As for the Switch - it can be emulated, LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_1ielfy2Ak this video's cool though.

>>390149948
B U R N
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>>390149815
>physically impossible

Literally what faggot.

>>390150030
>or wait long enough till the new games are bargain bin tier
this takes like 6 months
>poverty
yes it's poverty tier to have a dozen games to play for the first time while I wait 6 months for games to cost $20 lol. I bought dishonored 2 and titanfall 2 for $20 a pop this spring. And they run at 60fps with mouselook. Stay mad, fag

>>390150030
I'm not the one paying more than necessary to play no games, poorfag. I have more money than you automatically because I'm more intelligent.

>>390150113
what's the biggest backlog one could possibly have on a ps4? seriously, try to list every exclusive game for the platform worth playing. it's like 5-10 games

>>390149960
Oh i see! A fact! Well, please present them anon! Shouldn't be hard! You will pf course also present facts to show those with only consoles and no PC gaming also do not have large back logs!

>>390150183
Oh i see now, it's:

>console gamers only have current gen consoles ever argument

>>390150030
Not him but it's cheaper if you do ONE of the following

>buy over 5 newish games a year (quite a few people)
>play online (90 percent of people going by the most popular games)
>buy a pc for general use roughly every 5 years (99.9999999999999 percent of people over 13)

Practically everyone does the second and third thing

>>390150135
>I have more money than you automatically because I'm more intelligent.
I don't care what side you are on or what your arguments are, but only an 11-year-old would think that to himself, believe and feel confident in it, type it up and post it on the internet.

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>>390150198
>lalalala I can't hear you

>>390141731
This question it extremely biased toward the console end.

You can't just assume a budget of $200 for both, because you need a pc anyway for everyday use, so if you get a 200$ budget it's essentially 200$ EXTRA to the $150 you would have to spend anyway to get a crappy laptop.

>>390150040
Besides used consoles, the only $200 Xbones I'm seeing are refurbs (which are essentially used)

>>390150313
O i said present facts, i am very ready to listen to those anon.

>200 dollars
i'd buy booze and drink myself to death
thanks

>>390150283

They don't last forever, why do you think gta 5 sold so well on ps4? Since everyone had to buy it again

You can buy yourself a nice change of clothes for $200 and then go find a job and a girlfriend like the freaking adult you are, you stinking virgins. Damn children, all of you.

>>390145856
>$200
>can buy anything sans last gen console or sub-potato pc
Sometimes I envy americunts. Or are you just stupid?
Just buy 3ds or vita then hacked it.

Use the $200 to buy a 1050 and plug it into the shit rig you use to browse this board.

>>390150501
>they don't last forever

Please show me a mainline console built in the last 30 years that has gone completley extinct of working use. The NES? SNES? PSX? PS2? GC? DC? Are there any that i cannot buy anymore because there isn't a single unit that does not exist? Hmm...

>>390150543
>well I wasn't sure about hiring you Mike but your new shirt totally changed my mind. Here's that dream job and complimentary gf you always wanted

Is this how normies *reason*

>>390150730
Gotta say that's a lot more hopeful than how we reason over here.

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>>390148472
mmmmmhmmmmm

>>390150730
Okay kid, hold on to your stained sweatpants and your electronic toys. They are gonna take you places, sonny!

>>390150708
Yes you can keep them but realistically in most people don't or something goes wrong. The evidence for this (apart from it being obvious few will last 10 years) is how well stuff like gta and minecraft are selling still

>>390150876
I don't wear sweatpants and I shower twice a week. New clothes don't do shit in this job market regardless of how fancy your shirt is. Might as well buy something to keep you entertained while you're unsuccessfully looking for a job

>>390150835
Wasn't this shown to be fake though?

>>390151146
>I shower twice a week
*inhales*

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>>390146778
>50 fps

>>390151020
Sounds like poor evidence. Minecraft sells well so i don't own an N64 or PS2??

>>390145271
>Can't be connected to your tv

This is flat out wrong. I play video games from my fucking bed using my computer hooked up to my tv using an HDMI cable.

Get fucked for parroting this meme.

>>390141731
>PC
>more practical/useful
>better graphics and performance
>more games (and by extension more QUALITY games)
>emulation
>mods
>cheaper (free) games
>free online multiplayer
>the initial investment is slightly more than an equivalent consoles

>Consoles
>more expensive games
>paid online (5 years after release you probably would've paid ~300$ on online subscriptions alone on top of the base console price)
>practically useless outside of playing games
>some don't even have emulation for previous generations of the same console
>no mods
>24 fps

overall PC is the better investment in the long run.

if you want less control and choice over your experience then use a console

>>390151324
Do you ACTUALLY think the average normie still has a xbox 360/ps3 in good working order with no issues?

The reason minecraft/gta sells well (compared to on pc) still on the consoles is because they break and people have to buy the games again, this is how you know normies aren't keeping/maintaining them.

>>390141906
A halfway decent videocard cost as much as a used console and like 3 years of paid online which includes a shit-ton of game rentals.

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>>390141731
>Let's assume the VGA cables, KB+M and OS are included in the price for the PC.
wow, so glad i got the vga cable noone uses now, since dvi is the standard, thanks man
>You have $200 to spend on a gaming platform of choice.
for $200 you won't even buy a decent TV for a console and your PC will be used toaster tier, what ar eyou trying to do here? $200 on hardware? You want PS2 or something?

>>390151514
>Do you ACTUALLY think the average normie still has a xbox 360/ps3 in good working order with no issues?
Yes, because they still make normie AAA games for these consoles, such as soccer and other sports games.

>>390151514
Sorry anon, but why are we talking about "normies"? Because if you want to really fucking go there, normies buy consoles for their games and this entire thread and your argument is retarded and invalid now.

>>390141731
I'd buy the PC since I can do more with it, and the fact that I can actually get cheap games for it.

>>390151393
What are you playing? VNs? Because only that kind of "games" are sufferable with the input lag generated from such a setup.

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>PC gaming
>Includes Korean, Russian, and Brazillian children

This ends the conversation right there for me. Consoles only with regional servers. Fuck that garbage. I've played Happy Wars with literal 7 year old American children that preform better than some adults I've played with from across the world.

>>390141731
You'd have to get a hell of a deal but you could get a used N3DS for around 200 american and then sure you need access to a computer and some cables but you can hack it and play pretty much whatever you like

Alternatively, PSP.

Still, a 200 dollar PC of some description has a pretty substantial library of free games so I'd say that and you can still play certain things that are fun with modern machines

>>390150283
>>console gamers only have current gen consoles ever argument
you really play 2009 games on 2005 hardware and are ok with that? holy shit man your laptop is a better gaming machine than a ps3

>>390141731
>$200

You might as well get a console at that price. The most you can get from a $200 pc is web browsing. Maybe some really old games. You need at least $600 to make a PC worthwhile.

>>390141731
me personally, I can't stand console games I think they're dumb
don't care for the story driven TPS exclusives, don't care for the racing games, don't care for the fighting games, Bloodborne would probably be the only thing I'd ever like to play on consoles but that's it

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Why not buy a superior console?

>>390151813
Racist much?
This is the number ONE reason why console gamers are insufferable. They are shitty, oppressive and racist personalities.

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>>390151838
Still play PS2. It was fine when i first got one in 2002 and it's still fine now. If that's a problem for you then it's your problem. I see we are back to the only thing that matters to mustards: compute units

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>>390151992

>Korean children screaming at the top of their lungs into the mic because I picked jungler
>Ask to quiet down
>He trolls/feeds

Guess I'm racist

>>390152103
Yes you are, because you see "Korean" instead of "annoying person irregardless of race and/or nationality" you hypocritical prick.

>>390152210
There is nothing wrong with having accurate observational skills, retard

>>390152276
Literary fuck you and your consoles, Trumphet

>>390152358
>complaining about racism on the internet
whats wrong with you?

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>>390152210

You just want more tolerable people such as myself on your horrible community peasant drivel ridden platform known as Steam. I think not good sir, I think I shall remain on my East Coast locked servers on Xbox and PS4.

>>390141731
>$200
LOL

>>390152404

Whats wrong with YUO?

>>390152415

fuck off back to /r/the_donald

>>390141731
There is no debate, a 8gb 1070 is like 500$, the deck is totally stacked.

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>>390151992
>>390152210
>>390152358
>>390152574

>>390152574
I don't care about the moral compass of anonymous users on the internet because I'm not insane. People on the internet aren't people, stop freaking out about low key internet racism. there's nothing you can do about it

If you want a dirt cheap PC get a cheap used Dell from an office or a school, and throw a 1030 or 550 in there.

>>390152652

>People on the internet aren't people

yeah, RACISTS literary arent people

>>390152836
no, people on the internet aren't people. they're just the words they say. you aren't a person, I'm not a person. you cannot attach humanity to simple communication. it's just not psychologically impossible.

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>Mfw gaming PC, Steam Link and an internet connection good enough to use it, a surface pro for some light portable gaming, and thinking about getting a GPD Win so I have a handheld that can take advantage of my PC library
Dont get me wrong, I buy consoles for the exclusives and local multiplayer, im not retardedly limiting myself to just games coming to PC. But they only consoles I like are ones that can do different things than a PC would be able to (WiiU with off screen play and shit like Rayman Legends murphy or the NSMBU 5th player who could manipulate the stage, 3DS/DS, Vita, portability in geral)

But if Sony and Nintendo started releasing their games on PC like Microsoft does I'd probably do away with consoles entirely.

>>390141731
Can we ha a monitor in advance? Even if I pick a console I don't want to use one of those horrible 52" TVs with useless features and the pixel density of an obese landwhale

cant buy games with only 200$,so i go with pc for pirating
but if the platform's games cost 0$ then ps4

>>390152919

>hey're just the words they say

yes, racist words, egro they are racist. go back to your containment site

im out i wont argue with racist consolebabies anymore

>>390141731
>$200
>grab a 1060
>stick it into my old pc
>BAM 90fps+ on triple x3 aaa games

>>390153103
nigger

>>390153059
Why do PC gamers prefer to use a monitor over a HDTV? Wouldn't it help the coating arguments if you could just use a TV?

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>>390153138
>triple x3 aaa

>>390153159

HAHAHA SE SAID IT AGAIN THE WORD HAHAh SO FUNNY

im out

>>390153187
a. you're tech illiterate if you don't know why monitors are better than televisions, generally speaking
b. you're tech illiterate if you don't know how to use a pc on a television

>>390153103
>racist words
There is no such thing as a racist word. Only racist people, you goddamn porch monkey. Read a book.

>>390153238
>he doesn't play AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA games
Plebeian.

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>>390153039
>Buy steam link
>Realize too late theres no ethernet port near my tv

>>390153187
Because LCD TVs are terrible for gaming. Even if they have a "game mode" the input lah and response times are worse than your average monitor. 4k TVs are practically unplayable.

>>390153297
nigger

>>390153297
yes the fact that you're emotionally triggered by the word is funny. goodbye

>>390153424
m8, my 4k tv has an 11ms response time. for 60fps games it's perfectly fine

>>390153338
Cool so the answer is...?

>>390141731
>PC
>$200
Why even bother

>>390153484
>input lag
>color accuracy
>picture clarity
>easier to use better peripherals at desk than couch

and
>fucking plug it right into the television you dumb cunt
>disable sharpening, use any game modes available
>wireless mice, keyboards, and controllers exist

>>390141906
It's only larger because everyone buys a much more powerful PC than what a console is

>>390141731
Not sure how practically every "PC" response to this is fucking retarded.

>LOL I keep my old PC and spend $200 SSHD!

Fuckers need to learn how to READ! The choice is hard set at $200 for toaster PC v. $200 for a console. It's not fucking chinese-rocket-surgery, it's a simple question that seems impossible to fuck up. Yet, somehow you do.

>>390154403
see>>390145891
>>390147102

>>390152073
I wish I still had my PS2.

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>>390153493
The last PC I bought is $200 and it can play all my old favorites on the go and can handle games up to Fallout 3 level graphics.

>>390151838
Since when?

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>>390155050
Go get one anon.

Well you have to factor in the reality , that all your PC games are going to be console ports but you can get them for free. Consoles = no fuss no muss and if it doesn't work for you it's the same for everyone. And you get to play the majority of the games first before PC.

>>390142363
It's a tablet?

>>390145474
>if you build a pc you must spend 1000$
I built my friend one for under 500 and it works great. This meme needs to die

>>390145841
Resident evil yeah because there's not a lot going on. Play cities for 30 minutes and report back.

>>390146197
I don't like used hardware.

>>390154551
Yeah? I can mod a $200 console to play everyconsoleever also. Shit, you can buy a PSTV still (I did last week), and put SO MANY EMULATORS on it. I have a Raspberry Pi 3b that plays SO MANY EMULATORS, I have a fantastic PC, and I have loads of consoles. Saying that PCs have free games because of emulation/piracy is silly when consoles have just as much access to free games.

>>390155771
I'm sure it works great but at $500 it's not pulling off anything a console can't. I'm guessing at best you have a 1050 ti in there? May as well just get a ps4 and a thinkpad for the same cost at that point.

>>390156097
The ps4 gets beaten by the 750 ti in most games, you're REALLY overestimating it.

>>390156097
He really wanted a pc so I built him one. Can't remember the exact card but I took the cheap route with AMD. He actually likes Vidya so he got into emulating and shit like that. He would've ended spending way more rebuying old titles or new to play as opposed to a massive older library for free.

>>390156356
Where do you guys find these retarded friends who are so stupid you need to build their pcs for them? All my friends built their own because they're men and not fucking toddlers.

>>390152210
>be slav
>hate slavs in games
what am i, then?

>>390156678
>Real men build pcs! Booh yah!

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>>390156678
I should've phrased it better, he gave me a budget and I picked the parts to suite his needs. He actually put it together fine and it was his first time dealing with parts. Proud of him.

>>390157072
That's not as shameful but still pretty embarrassing. Tell him to do his own research next time and just come to you for advice rather than just letting you pick his whole build for him.

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>>390156678
>>390156817
>>Real men build PC's
even a toddler can do it

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>>390157329
Well I do that with literally everything else. I don't Spoonfeed him because it's annoying for me. That's pretty much the only computer thing I helped him with any other time I just say "Google it"

>>390141731
>buy the shitty PC
>then save up money again to upgrade the parts

Spend $150 on Nvidia Volta GV107 GTX 2050 Ti

Instant console killing performance

>>390157737
Any part you spend 150$ on will kill that part of a console in performance

>>390151559
This is why japanese hate PC gaming. Nothing but visual novels.

>>390145271
Holy shit.
A reasonable post.

I agree my bro. I play on ps4 mostly now.
Easier to deal with than janky setups for broken games, and fucking hackers.
Played bf1 on pc today and had fairfight banning 3 players in one match, and at least one per match.
Also a few that it didn't ban, yet had 100/1 kdr as an lmg dude and was oneshotting nigs.
So yeah, if ps4 could do mouse and keyboard for fps games then I'd never touch my pc again.

>>390156678
i've done it for two friends

>>390141731
$200? Console no question. If it was $3-400 I'd go PC. You could make a shit PC that runs everything on low/medium for that.

>>390157737
DERP!

>buy a video card and no computer to put it in.
>we master race nao!!!

>>390159243
Put it in the computer your using right now

i have a console next to me but i barely use it, it's just so much more inconvenient than clicking an icon and playing a game

>>390145271
>hate fiddling with settings
i'll never not have a sensible laugh when i read this in console vs pc conversations.
>it's so hard to open graphics options and check the "clone to secondary display" box

>>390159351
anon, there are people that are so retarded that they have a ps4 and a macbook but will tell you that PC gaming is too expensive. we don't argue with these people, we just pity them

>>390151290
>he fell of the 144hz meme

>>390159482
Seriously. I have to get up and move all the way over to my couch and then make sure I have my remotes and my controllers and then hope the batteries aren't dead. Then I have to wait for my tv to turn on, wait for the console to turn on, wait for another stupid, pointless, madatory system update, start the game, wait for another 4 GB game patch to download then install on my consoles shitty 4500rpm hard drive, find out it doesn't have enough space so I have to go searching for some game I guess I don't want to play anymore to uninstall and then do it over again.

With a pc I just click Play and I'm playing.

>>390141731
the choice is clear. PC. I sill have extremely old pc games I can run on a newer pc, and newer games I can still run on an older pc. your limited by a console because you can only play games for that since they wont let you have reverse gaming because something about the "coding" but we really know its about the sales.

>>390152210
>says irregardless
>people still honestly reply

i type irregardless
doesn't trigger spellcheck
look it up and it's in the dictionary now
what the fuck

>>390160218
>there are anons who still play Dead Space at sub-hd 30fps with dips instead of at 4k60fps

>>390159795
Yup that's pretty much my issue.
With the PS2 i'd just shove the disk in and wait for it to load, now the console wants an update, the game wants an update, and the updates take forever to install.
Then the goddamn game wants to install too? I just don't get the point of having a console anymore. Not to mention they have ridiculously limited space still despite wanting you to install shit, if i want to play MGS4 again i'll have to wipe half the shit off my PS3's HDD.

>>390159351
I don't need to downgrade.

but, you're going to insist that only buying a video card and nothing else is the smart choice.

PC will always have smaller communities

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>>390141731
$200 Comp? wtf do you want a chrome book? you gonna do some gaming on a chrome book kid?