Cold Steel PC

Durante, hurry the fuck up with sequel port!
Let's at least do it in 2018!
Meanwhile I will shorten my December with Okami.

How the fuck do you people play these long-ass games?

The longest I've ever played a single-player game was 30 hours straight.

I'm about 25 hours into this now and there is no end in sight. Not even a hint that we're starting to wrap up.

Jesus Christ, the game is very fun in that relaxing sort of way, but holy fuck how long is this? And there are 2 sequels that continue the story?

This is Tolkien-tier length.

>>390117118
>And there are 2 sequels that continue the story?
Are you tryin to tell me you didn't already devote 300 hours to the previous games in the overarching series? And have not readied yourself for the next trilogy after this trilogy?

Does this game require playing the other trails of games or is it stand alone?

>>390116832
Is Durante in charge of porting the sequel too?

>>390117671
No trails game requires playing another trails game. The plot hasn't even come together yet.

>>390117487
>there's even more
How? How full of lore and characters can one fucking universe be before we call it too much?

>>390117758
So trails of games are just like tales of series then where all just separate games in the same franchise. Got it, I'll look into playing one sometime soon

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Sky was much, much better. That said I still enjoyed Cold Steel. The Trails series really is something special. Can't think of another series that spans this many games that's all this closely interconnected.

>>390117913
>all just separate games in the same franchise.
they have connected timeline, but from different perspectives
CS is very stand alone.

>>390116470
But CS2 has been out for years.

>>390117765
never too much, it's an entire universe after all

>>390116470
>no Steamlink

Come on shills, step up.

>>390118387
>Steam
>when it's on GoG

>>390118387
I don't understand. Does Google not work anymore? Here you go faggot:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/538680/The_Legend_of_Heroes_Trails_of_Cold_Steel/
https://www.gog.com/game/legend_of_heroes_trails_of_cold_steel_the

>>390117913
Here's how it works.

>Trails in the Sky
First Chapter
Second Chapter
3rd

>Trails of Zero
Zero (Never released in the west, has a fan translation patch, check the Falcom General on /vg/ for more info)
AO (Currently in the process of getting a fan translation patch... hopefully)

>Trails of Cold Steel
Cold Steel 1
Cold Steel 2
Cold Steel 3 (releasing this month in Japan, expect an English TL in late 2018 on PS4, probably 2019 for PC)

You can start at the first game of each series EXCEPT for Zero which relies heavily on a select few cast members from the Sky series. Personally, I'd suggest starting at First Chapter and going on from there. If you start with Cold Steel you'll miss so many cool things.

>>390118387
google sure is hard

>>390118387
Bing it you fuck

Let's talk music:

>most comfy theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK4a14JbjMI&index=7&list=PLzFTGYa_evXg9ZudTxcGNs2m5X4O9nj66
If that doesn't make you whistle and relax you must be dead inside.

>best field trip music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeA4vQFQhr4&list=PLzFTGYa_evXg9ZudTxcGNs2m5X4O9nj66&index=58
I want to live lazy days in Legram, fishing and bullying the Laura-fanclub.

>best battle theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsfGVHAqwMc&list=PLzFTGYa_evXg9ZudTxcGNs2m5X4O9nj66&index=34
Short, but so sweet. If that piano doesn't send shivers down your spine it might be time to end life.

>most inspirational
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JDWIPftf1M&list=PLzFTGYa_evXg9ZudTxcGNs2m5X4O9nj66&index=69
[willingness to defend Thors intensifies]

Debate me.

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Playing Ao right now (currenly on the final chapter), using some guides and the machine translation patch since I don't understand moon. You anons weren't kidding when you said Crossbell arc was the best.
I seriously hope one day we get a proper english translation, I know I'm missing alot of stuff even if I've been doing every sidequest that appears on the terminal.

>>390118978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV_zh3Q7N14&index=30&list=PLzFTGYa_evXg9ZudTxcGNs2m5X4O9nj66

This first plays when you have to study for mid-terms and it's raining at the school. Loved the music so much, maximum comfy walking around the school and checking up with everyone how they were studying.

>>390119161
Fuck you got me there. God damn that makes me just want to sit and look out a window and relax.

Even my brother, who considers JRPGs "for fags", is willing to admit that this is really a top-tier OST.

>>390118978
>debate me

Can't debate you when you're not wrong.

>>390118978
>Don't be Defeated by a Friend!

They really should have played this during the final confrontation with (huge spoilers for CS1 ahead) _____Crow_____.

>>390119043
>That lloyd and ellie same face

>>390118978
Coldsteel aside

>most comfy theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sta_Lb5sx64

>best field trip music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRqzTGXxoGQ

>best battle theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GB-xej4GFc

>most inspirational
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoJMPgi4eHQ

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>>390119405
>hating on decisive collision

C'mon, man.

>>390119410
I really don't mind the art for original characters, but I hate how old, returning characters looks like.

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>>390118978
>>390119161
>>390119276
To drift away from CS a bit

>Shit finally gets serious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBclT0W_2Dk
One of the coolest moments in the series. Really makes you feel like a badass firing your S-craft off.

>Right before everything comes falling down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF11p90v38o
This music along with the accompanying scene of wandering around Aster House is the only time in a videogame when I've actually cried. Also what happens afterward... God damn.

3rd is my favorite in the series. Such an excellent self-contained story, but it also sheds so much light on the rest of the series as well.

>>390117118
so you've never played Witcher 3?

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>At the start of the game dread the fact that people change what they say at a rates far more than other RPGs because I feel like I'd miss things easily
>At the end I'm fucking in love because those constant changes make the world feel so full of life
I still ended up missing a lot of things easily.

Game's god damn magical.
Already set up and ready to go dive into Sky and the rest.

>>390119608
>3rd is my favorite in the series

It's pretty good. I honestly wasn't expecting 3rd to have to much fanservice and an actual great backstory for Kevin.
Fucking blew my mind when the boy he killed gets mentioned during Crosslbell,
as it turns out the "fanatical cult" was actually D∴G Cult

>>390119405
No. Decisive collision was perfect.

>>390119474

Floating City fucking got me.

>>390119405
They should've played a recording of the Trails series' director taking a dump because getting shit on was exactly how I felt enduring that retarded RNGfest on Nightmare.

>>390119671

I felt I went full autism in this game, talking to EVERYONE just because I loved seeing their little side-plots develop.

And I still missed a ton. My autism must intensify.

In terms of world-building, it doesn't get much better than Trails.

>>390120159

I beat the game on Hard, because I'm a casual baby, but holy fuck can we all agree that was the WORST final boss fight of any game ever? I'll try to keep this spoiler-free, but:
>stats mean nothing, only level
>insanely RNG heavy, the last battle in the game is decided by percentages and what numbers the computer rolls
>party composition, quartz, equipment, items, learned skills - all mean nothing

I loved the emotional part of the fight, but holy fuck after 7 attempts my patience was officially out with this shit.

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One of my absolute favorite tracks is the version of The Whereabouts of Light that plays when Estelle, Joshua, Ries, and Kevin are introduced respectively in Crossbell arc. It creates such a sweet nostalgic feeling that it's unreal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ_PVyDYARY

>>390120429
It was both incredibly exciting and annoying to have my fight go down to the wire with me having to rely on the 50% dodge to finish things.

>>390120429
>hey guys wouldn't it be great if we made the final boss an actual game of rock, paper, scissors?
>wow people really loved those final fights so much, guess we gotta put tons in the sequel!
Bravo, Falcom does it again!

>I fucking cried when it was over

This is either falseflagging or shilling.

>>390117118
I dunno, you just do? 80ish hours go by pretty quick, but I grew up playing RPGs so I'm conditioned to it. If anything, 20-30 hours feels short for an rpg.

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>>390118978
>battle theme
I definitely like that one, but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnpg9Zc3_iE
in particular the guitar breakdown when you bust out the S crafts, I can only wish they actually synced it up for s crafts for maximum anime power fantasy moments

>>390117118
80 to 90 hours I guess if you decide to be full autismo mode like talking to every NPC every time the story progress.

>>390118978
I enjoy exceed more as battle music. The moment it played was pretty hype as fuck especially during Laura's dad duel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2OBpsUK5PU

>>390120159
>Doing that fight on nightmare
God, don't remind me. I remember it took me about 4 hours of attempts before someone told me it was also level dependant so I grinded literally one level and just barely cleared it.
I tried it again after grinding to a much higher level and it still took me two tries.
Seriously, fuck that fight.

>>390122067
It's readable. Going need some logic leap those.

>>390117118
I split it up into sessions. 4-6 hours usually with a max of 8-10 when I get hooked. I can't do more or else I'll burn myself out and drop the game and forget everything that happens only to come back a few months later for the sake of beating it and have a way worse experience. Anything less and I'll be stuck in habit of dicking around for a few hours doing random shit and basically not getting any of the plot done.

>>390118491
Should I start with Trails in the sky or cold steel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lkaTGNE5ds
This song is what got me into the series and is probably still my favourite.
The only reason I found the song was because demetori is falcom's guitarist.

>>390120214
>not going full autism for every game

>>390122574
Both are standalone enough. Games start out very slow so expect it to be a while so just relax and expect absolutely nothing to happen. Sky is before steel but steel has better graphiqs unless you like 2.5d Sprite gameplay.

>>390120674
>>390120658
>>390120429

The "real" final boss, the boss at the bottom of the school house, felt waaaay more like a proper final boss than the one we actually got.

That guy was big, intimidating, mysterious, hit like a truck and had tons of unique abilities with vastly differing effects.

In my head HE was the final boss and the Azure Knight was just a nice emotional fight (that just happened to take me 18 tries).

>>390120774
Or someone who's not as dead inside as you actually had an emotional response to a video game. Totally not projecting.

>>390121406
This Anon knows what's up. Every time that violin came in I wanted Eliot in my party.

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>>390116470
Now you know the magic of kiseki, friend.

>>390122574

Cold Steel technically comes AFTER Sky in the history of the world you play in, but honestly I'd still almost recommend Cold Steel.

If only because it looks so much better, and you grow way more attached to the characters (at least I did).

In Sky, there's a lot of traveling around, and thus leaving companions behind or having them split from your party. That doesn't really appeal to me.

In Cold Steel, your friends are your friends throughout the game. And I like that. Makes for much deeper bonds.

>>390116470
I just got the two PS3 games in the mail today. Can't wait to start them.

>>390123668

Enjoy Anon. It gets crazy.

Okay I beat the CS a little while ago and here's what I thought:

Good:
>"Hard" difficulty is juuust perfect, requiring just enough skill without making it grindy at all. This should have been the game's "Normal".
>The Quartz system was amazingly fun to play around with. I never had enough slots. Not even when they were all unlocked. Never. Enough.
>The music is so good it's worth buying the OST for. And I don't say that lightly. Final Fantasy 9 was the last game I bought the OST for, and the fact that Cold Steel gets mentioned in the same context is probably the highest praise I can give it.
>A lot of really cool characters, Jusis, Fie, Machias, Laura and even Alisa were nicely fleshed out and rounded.
>I consider myself pretty good at "calling" things in JRPGs, there are very few things that can surprise me, but a twist near the end relating to the masked man (you'll know when you get there) genuinely caught me by surprise. Which is downright rare these days.

Bad:
>The last boss fight might be the worst designed fight in JRPG history. It's not had in the "beat your ass because you deserved it" hard, but hard because the computer rolled poor dice.
>The game opens with a battle at a fortress. This entire concept is stupid as shit as you have a lot of arts, characters, skills and crafts available here. It's very overwhelming and paces the start poorly.

Explain how I am wrong.

>>390124107
Oh, and last point on bad:
>The game ended really abruptly. For a game that took its sweet time (and it worked for it) in all other aspects it was almost surreal to see the last cutscene of the game last, like 2 minutes and then boom, credits.

>>390116832

Agreed. Hurry the fuck up Amerifat cunt. Port faster!

>>390124107
>>The Quartz system was amazingly fun to play around with. I never had enough slots. Not even when they were all unlocked. Never. Enough.
This is were you're wrong and shows it's your first trails game, it's the literal definiton of casualized shit.

>>390124368
What was wrong with it? Finding the balance between what arts you wanted/needed combined with what stats your build required, and what slots you had available on each character was loads of fun.

What would you have them change?

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>>390116470
Most of those are only expected from an RPG...but dammit you've convinced me to go back to Cold Steel after I dropped it last week.

>>390124556

You gotta' be patient with it. It's one of those relaxing games that are all about listening to great music and exploring a unique world. Enjoy Anon!

Does CS2 take place at Thors too? Or is the school-life over?

>>390124229
It's not like this game is a trilogy or something. Sarcasm aside yeah it's understandable.

>>390124789
No more school. Hard to have classes during a civil war.

My pc is terrible so it cant play it. Does it comes to ps4?

>>390117118
Because it got interesting pretty quick and get me hooked up, they drop hint from previous game from time to time, it spice everything up really well.

This game (as whole, not just few chapters) is just only introduction to the trilogy, mainly to introduce cast & new settings, it's just natural if you think that this game is slow, i mean Sky FC suffered the same problem.

This game alone is very long compared to your average RPGs, about 60~80 hours depending on your difficulty settings and what you did. There's turbo button for a reason.

If you can't stand it that the game is too long or slow, maybe this series isn't for you.

>This is Tolkien-tier length.
No, save that for Trails in the Sky SC.

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>>390124556
Its the kind of game where you really have to sit down and try to immerse yourself in its world and characters. The reward is you get a really fleshed out experience. Even if that experience has to take place over 3 games. I just treated the first game as more of a prologue and wasnt disappointed in the slightest.

>>390124946

Nah, but PS3 got it. And the PC version runs really well on toaster-tier systems. What are your specs?

>>390125027

It does not support dx11 which locks me out from playing the game. Also arent 3 coming to ps4? Why wouldn't they port the other two too?

>>390124946
>Intel graphics are minimum
Maybe you should get a new toaster. Prebuilts are getting pretty good nowadays if you out in the effort to wade through absolute shit and scams. Would be a good investment for the future too.

>>390125092
>It does not support dx11
Pardon?

>>390122067
It's shit but manageable, at least not Ao-garbage tier.

>>390124932
No, instead you show up to school again to fight your old schoolmates in a perfectly justifiable and reasonable series of encounters that totally served a larger purpose operating within the framework of the story.

>>390125002
>posting worst girl

>>390125245
Rean is a guy, not a girl.

>>390125245
>not liking Alisa

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>>390125245
I highly disagree but thats fine

>>390124946
I played it on laptop with nvidya gt 740m, the game run perfectly well if i turn off few stuff.
There's few hiccups on scene transition but i think it's normal.

>>390122682
The "Silver Will" of Crossbell arc.
And one of the best battle themes

>>390125316
Her CS3 design looked SMOOTH as fuck.

>>390125245
>worst

Kys Laurafag.

>>390125092
The game is running on DX11, that's why you should at least check steam game spec before pirating the game.
CS2 PC port is announced but no specific release date yet.
There's still no word for CS3 since the Japanese version isn't even out yet.

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>it will be at least 6 months before we can enjoy CS2 in beautiful 4k

It must be done.

>>390116470
Crow dies like a bitch

>>390126875
>implying Rean "Literally Jesus" Schwarzer won't bring him back

>>390126875
Hes going to be in 3

I'd like a Cold Steel anime. Just a show about the day-to-day of these people. All the stuff we didn't get to see in the game.

is this a standalone or do I need to play a previous game

>>390126295
Here's a (you) hope you get a proper response soon.

>>390127086

You don't need to play anything.

The fun part about Trails is that they all take part in the same universe though.

Trails in the Sky takes place in the republic while Trails of Cold Steel take place in the Empire. Both exist on the same planet and reference each other heavily.

What that means is that you'll never feel left out if you haven't played one of the games, and no matter what order you play them in (as long as you know how to count) you won't have a problem.

Take that from someone who's never touched one of these games before Cold Steel released on PC.

I just love how they established all the military might and modern warfare of Erebonian Empire but in the end it was fucking useless when mech and ancient nuclear bomb starts showing up.

>>390127505
Thanks.

Looks like you shills did a fine job today, I'm buying it as we speak.

By the way, what's the game like in terms of romance? Any romance in the story, or is it optional side stuff, or is it creepy platonic stuff

>>390127632
There is, and it's optional.

>>390127632
Romance is optional and it's just a small part in the game. They might flesh it out more in the sequel but don't take my words for it, I haven't play CS2. Still waiting for that port which I hope comes out on this December.

>>390122682
Original is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XUzvISRwUQ

>>390127632
Not him, but there really isn't much in terms of romance. You can tell that they're letting the characters fall in love sloooowly, like you can take you favored girl on a few romantic events but they don't kiss or confess their love or anything like that. By CS3 it'll have probably built up into a full-on orgy, but as it stands in CS1 the best you can do is usually being a close friend one of the girls has an eye for.

It's all optional too, so you can just bro-up like I did with Gaius, Machias and Eliot and fuck bitches.

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So i just recently finished cold steel and i want to draw some comparisons to tits fc and sc here.

people always say that nothing happens in fc. i don't really agree with that. i mean i can see if you don't like the baddy of the week chapter approach with a bit of main story sprinkled in, but i never really minded because i thought that the individual chapters were just that enjoyable.

cold steel is kinda built in the same way, with a baddy of the field trip approach and then teeny bit of mainstroy sprinkled in. the problem i have with cold steel is just that the individual chapters are nowhere near as good as the ones in fc, which makes the 'nothing happening' REALLY standing out.

i also have problems with the way it ends. yes, fc also sets up the sequel but it has an actual ending, that ends the current situation surrounding the coup d' etat and all that jazz and then gives out all these revelatiosn to look forward in sc.

cold steel just kinda ends on a way more unsatisfactory note, with rean just getting carried away by valimar and nothing being resolved at all, just all this stuff thrown at you in the last 5 minutes.

cold steel also has the same problem that the early chapters of sc suffered from. you always knwo that in the end its gonna be a confrontation with the terrorists, there is nothing really surprising to look forward to, to shake things up during the chapters, kinda like in sc the early chapters are all going to be against the enforcers, which made it super boring and predictable

also i think fc's school chapter did the school aspect better than cs, which is focused entirely on it ...

>>390128274
I disagree with most of your points but either way... You really should spoiler some of this shit.

>>390128274
Cold Steel was meant to be one game. There's a lot of padding in CS2 (if you like interacting with characters then its not really a downside, but the plot does slam to a halt partway through) and it probably could have just be a singular game if Falcom didn't have to deal with technical limitations and deadlines.

>for all of your hardwork during field trips, you guys get a vacation at Rean's hometown!
>the event will be in a slideshow format though so enjoy the show!

>>390128836
>CS2 comes about
>welcome to rean's hometown, we got snowmen, snowboarding, hot springs, dads, and Patiry

I want to marry Rean.

>>390129594
Fuck off Elise, they already did incest in sky.

Does the game have any romance? That's a huge selling point for me.

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>>390129719
Yes but it only fully blooms in CS2. All Trails games have romance.
Trails in the Sky has the best romance out of literally any videogame, not being able to pick who you end up with made writing the romance into the main plot work better in my opinion. From Trails of Zero onwards, the game lets you choose.

>>390129715
>implying it's elise
>IMPLYING IT'S NOT ALFIN, EREBONIA'S THIRSTIEST GIRL

>>390130265
So what you're saying is that I'd have to wait for the second game to see the romance come to fruition? And what's Trails of Zero? I don't know anything about this series, I just thought it looked interesting.

>>390129719
It does but any option but Alisa is wrong, non-canonical and nothing but hugs and headpats as opposed to Alisa's scenes.

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>>390130452
Yeah for a proper confession you'd have to wait for the second game. The confession scenes are really good too.
Also this game is separated into three arcs.
Sky/Liberl trilogy:
Trails in the Sky FC
Trails in the Sky SC
Trails in the Sky the 3rd
Crossbell arc (Zero is playable but has a better translation underway, Ao also is getting a fan translation):
Zero no Kiseki (Trails of Zero)
Ao no Kiseki (Trails of Azure)
Erebonia/Cold Steel arc:
Trails of Cold Steel
Trails of Cold Steel II
Trails of Cold Steel III (releases in 2 weeks)

>>390130810
So I could get Trails of Cold Steel 1 and 2 now, and then just play 3 by the time I'm done with those? Neat. Thanks anon.

>>390130983
>just play 3
When he says releases in 2 weeks he means in japanese.

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>>390129237
All of it was pretty good though.

One of the things missing in CS2 was they making it feel like a war was going on, like the opening suggests. The closest they got to that was Celdic.

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>>390130983
Yes. FC, Zero and CS are all good starting points since they don't rely that much on the other games. CS II will be available on PC early next year and hopefully CS III will also be out next year.
Since Cold Steel III appears to be a turning point for the entire series, some characters from the other games will be a part of the main cast like Randy from Zero/Ao and Tita from Sky, so playing the other games is always recommended even if not necessary.

>>390131262
CS2 is like the anti-FFXV

both games have you kind of on the run, but in one you have a harem, mad scientist, battleship, super robot, lesbian lolicon biker, and a high schooler princess lusting after you, and in the other you have a car, an endless swarm of paratroopers and mechs chasing you and live in a series of caravans

Question to you weebfags:

I bought one of the trails games and while I enjoyed the mechanics of it I couldn't stand the backtracking talking to people if you wanted to get the extra shit.

As a completionist to some degree this hits me as a shitty way to do the sidequests.

Do all of the games suffer from this?
Bonus question, does Ys 8?

>>390116470

Is it really that good? Because wre praising Trails in the sky just as much, and while it was good, it wasn't THAT good.

>>390131475
>Do all of the games suffer from this?
Yes. That's what makes the series this good in the first place.

>>390131475
Yes, that's part of the charm.

>>390131514
It's considered to be the worst game in the series.

>>390131714

Cold steel 1 or Trail sky 1?

Is Trail in the sky SC better than the first?

>>390131475
Man, you'd get btfo by almost every NES/SNES era RPG.

Games have a speed button now, use that and get walking you fag.

>>390131514
Sky was a different story at its core. CS isn't a good trails but it is a good rpg. And especially enjoyable so if you like the high-school setting+special mc+light dating sim thing.

>>390131841
CS1

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>>390131841
Personally I think FC is worse than CS1, but people may disagree. SC is better than FC, after it's rough start.

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Waiting for Ao is the worst. There's one game in this series I need to play now just let me play it.

>>390131871

>And especially enjoyable so if you like the high-school setting+special mc+light dating sim thing.

Alright, I can roll with that.

>>390131871
That sounds kinda like Persona, I'll look into this game then.

>>390131936
I think they are both bad but at least fc delivered in sc. CS1-2 feel like they are fc together and I'm still waiting for sc.

>>390122197
This happened to me with Tales of Symphonia. What a shame.

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Post your rankings lads.
3rd > SC > Ao > CSII > Zero > FC = CS
Kevin and Ries are still my favorite protagonists even though they only got one game.

>>390132598
>3rd
stopped reading there

>>390132598
Ao > SC > Zero > FC > 3rd > Sen > Sen II

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>>390132598
3rd is amazing with some really great boss fights along the way. I'm not sure I'd put SC so high though since it has a lot of downtime - it's good but I think I enjoyed Ao and Zero both more.

>>390129715
She's right though.

>>390132598
Ao>Zero>SC>3rd>CS2>FC=CS

>>390132598
SC>CS2>CS1>FC

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These ranking lists are pathetic. Put some effort in and rate every individual chapter of each game.
Just take Zero alone, Chapter 2 and Chapter 3 are like night and day.

>>390133034
Too much effort desu

>>390131842
I've played the shit out of the classics when I was a kid.

Problem is backtracking to the starting village because a character farted and a girl needs to react to it to unlock the questline for the best weapon in the game.

>>390132598
Cold Steel 2>Cold Steel 1
Haven't played the others.

>>390131842
>>390133119
And by this I mean that you have to speak to everyone on your way there and the starting village cause who knows what you could possibly miss.

>>390133119
>>390133186
Its accepted that if you want to do 100% you need a guide.

So enjoy it at your leisure and go with a guide for a 2nd playthrough. If you want those extras so hard a 2nd playthrough with the speed button and skipped dialogue shouldn't be that much of a problem. If it does though, use the BP guide from the get go, will ruin some choices on quests on 1st playthrough but whatever right?

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>>390116470
You cried and I turned the audio off after the 2nd chapter. huh.

>>390133772
>not playing with undub with glorious Nippon seiyuu whose tongues have been forged in temperatures hotter than the sun and folded over a billion times

>>390133772
Don't tell me you played it with dub.

>>390134641
I skipped all the story. Blah blah snobby rich kid and kid who hates rich kids become friends.
I put Dr. katz on in the background.

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>>390116470
I feel you OP, I had so much fun with it, picked it up on a whim because I was bored and it came out on steam.
Can't wait for Cold Steel II. Absolutely adore the series now and will play TitS before II is out.

>when you get to the bonfire scene and shit goes down and the train doesn't stop, literally could not put the game down until the end.
What a fucking ride it was, probably the best RPG I've played.
My only gripe was them skipping the comfy field trip to Yumir, which really rubbed me the wrong way, as I was looking forward to going there with the class.

I know listen to the OP for it and II's OP every day to get myself hyped for II, please hurry Xseed the cliffhanger is killing me.

>>390124107
>The last boss fight might be the worst designed fight in JRPG history. It's not had in the "beat your ass because you deserved it" hard, but hard because the computer rolled poor dice.

There's no dice rolling in the next fights for fucks sake. Depending in your opponents stance you attack accordingly. If they are about to use a powerful attack you drop your counterattack defensive skill to negate it and probably do massive damage.

I'm on my NG+++ in nightmare and that fight has always been a breeze after the first time I learned how it works. Yeah he might use his powerful attacks a couple more times on occasion but then you just defend and counter accordingly.

>>390117487
>next trilogy after this trilogy
Is that really planned out or are you just poopposting?
>>390118491
What about the PS2 games?

>>390129719
Trails in the Sky is the one with the romance. Cold Steel is a great series, but as far as romance goes it's poorly done harem shit.

>>390135284
>What about the PS2 games?
There are no PS2 Kiseki games.

>>390134781
>skipping story and character development in jrpg
That's not how you play it.

>>390135284
The series is only 60% done right now.

>>390136951
It is when the story is shite.

>>390137247
But there's is nothing left then. The gameplay is braindead and the characters are shit.

>>390137338
I'm not saying it isn't a shit game. The story was infantile, morals for children. Not a bad time waster while you watch a tv show though.

Does anyone have that chart that listed which order is the best to follow?

>>390137973
always release order

>>390137973
Release order.

>>390137973
Play whatever one you want to first.

>>390116470
Should i play this or do i have to play the Trails in the sky first to understand everything. I heard this ends with a cliffhanger, so should i wait for part 2.

>>390138223
>>390138045
>>390138070
But which is the best one?

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>>390118978
>Let's talk music
It's been 25 years and The Legend Of Heroes soundtracks STILL hasn't surpassed Stopper

>1992 and still the best track in the entire franchise
Starts at 0:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDNUYnqNygw

>>390138324
Best one is the one I liked the most.

>>390138324
Release.

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>>390138263
You can play this one since the 3 arcs are mostly self contained, but you'll be pretty lost with CS3 when it comes out and with a particular chapter of CSII if you haven't played the other games. Ideally you start with Sky.
>>390138324
This is my opinion >>390132598

>>390138263
>do i have to play the Trails in the sky first to understand everything
Yes. Unless you want to miss out on a shit ton of details and wonder who the fuck are these people and organizations and what do they want.
>>390138324
It's a long series with overarching plot. Where do you think you should start?

>>390138490
I meant which was the best game of the series

>>390138529
It's gotta be Cold Steel

>>390138529
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel

>>390138529
Ao no kiseki

>>390138529
Nayuta no Kiseki

>>390138529
In English?
Trails in the Sky SC

Over all?
Ao no kiseki

>>390138529
Ao no Kiseki. Sen III may top it though.

>>390138529
Akatsuki no Kiseki.

>>390138529
Series peaked at Ao.

>>390138529
Whole series is shit man.

>>390120441
Anelace a cute! A CUTE

>>390117118
I finished the first one after about 80 hours and playing the 2nd one and it seems to be about 50 hours or so. Im 30 hours in and i seem to be around half in the game or a bit more

>>390138529
Listen to them
>>390138743
>>390138582

Ao is the best, the other guys are just memeing.

>>390138529
Sky is acknowledged to be the best. By japs, weebs and everyone with a taste.

>>390119043
I want to play it but i cant. I cant play with a story guide next to me. Just makes it a fucking chore. Regardless, whats the guide you're using?

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>>390118978
These are the best Trails tracks, this can't be debated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhL-QZfZ9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3K-jn42Xsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EceRuTBhTdA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUFqkmB5SSA

>>390138489
Aww man. I love weeb stuff and anime tropes but i really hate jrpps like Final Fantasy and dragon quest. I really liked persona 3,4 and srpgs though.

In games like Pillars the battle speed is generally dictated by me. Turn based combat like Divinity OS are also really fun. But I tried trails FC and it was sooo clunky.

Are these games more like icewind dale which focuses on combat and encounter design or like Planescape where combat is shit but the story is good?

>>390139119
It would be closer to Planescape, however the story is bad as well.

>>390131936
That is you like school setting. I enjoy the comfy advanture in FC. The nostalgia feeling of old RPG

>>390116470
I played P5 right befor this
And I couldn't go on. ToCS is so bad in comparison

>>390139119
>Are these games more like icewind dale which focuses on combat and encounter design or like Planescape where combat is shit but the story is good?
The latter.
Trails combat was pretty out-dated and clunky even for 2004 standards, but they deliver with some of the most detailed and extensive writing I've ever seen in a video game.

I never played this series, should i get Trails in the sky or Automata?

>>390117118
Nice reddit spacing

>>390139423
Automata if you want a decent story, Trails in the Sky if you want a decent story after a boring 50 hour prologue.

>>390117118
>This is Tolkien-tier length.
desu every individual trails game has more words in them than the entire LoTR trilogy
and there's 7 fucking games.

Buy Sen III and give Juna back her Crossbell.

>>390139292
I am interested about the writing. My gold standards of writing are the works of Interplay,Black isle and Troika


How does Falcom compare to them? I never enjoyed the writing of any Japanese games, since they are generally raped by translators.(except maybe yoko taro).

>>390139612
Falcom games generally play it really safe with the stories/originality, so don't expect anything completely mindblowing from a story-telling perspective. The mindblowing part is simply the amount of detail they put into every single aspect of the writing, to the point that one minor seven-word sentence in the prologue of the first game might finally big a major plot point of the eight game 13 years later.

Trails stories tend to be generic 90s anime stories, but shine from their unmatched detail.

>All of these people enjoying CS
Fuck, I think I am going to be sick. You people are literally harming me physically with your disgusting EOP weeb millennial piece of shit "opinions".

It is the same on /a/, a bunch of shitters with bad taste.... And the rest of the internet too....

Just, please, don't come to /fg/. We are all REAL fans there. If you actually played the other Kiseki games you would be able to realize how fucking awful Cold Steel is. It is a complete embarassment to the franchise, it KILLED Kiseki for many true Falcom fan such as myself, not to mention Japan hated it and it flopped.

Fuck, I really am going to be sick, I am going to leave now, but I want yuo all to consider what you have said and done. If you change your ways, realize that CS was bad, and pick up the SKy trilogy, then maybe, just maybe we will talk again, but if not, fuck all of you. Fucking csfag reanfag senbaby coldshitters.

>>390139710
finally be a major plot point*

>>390139754
>falseflagging this hard

>>390139838
Most people know that CS is bad, I am simply baffled and sickened by this thread, and thought I could offer my objectively correct opinions on the matter.

Of course you have no adequate response so you resort to

>muh falseflagging!!!!
Maybe if Cold Steel wasn't so shit it wouldn't have inspired to hatred and ire of not only TRUE FALCOM FANS such as myself but general shitposters. Did you ever think of that?

Will the PS4 port of Sen comes with the field study on the western side of Erebonia?

>>390139838
He also falseflags to shit on Sky and Crossbell. Luckily he was busy on /vg/ so this thread had way less shitposting.

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>>390118978
Favourite dungeon theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hELEnwtlTo8

>>390140001
>mad CSfag is trying to make /fg/ look bad for shitting on his game

>>390140175
He has the same posting style as the guy who falseflags in Xeno threads too desu.

>>390140231
And here you are doing literally the exact same thing you piece of shit.

>>390140213
>Reverie corridor
I haven't play CS2 yet but aren't Reveries the things that were in the underground ruins in Grancel and on the Liber Ark? Are you telling me CS2 has a dungeon dedicated to them?

>>390117118
there was a time in which every JRPG was long like this

>>390140410
find out yourself _______;^)

>>390140261
We're on track to having our own XV-kun.

>>390140506
The golden years.

>>390140261
He IS the same guy. His entire tactic is to derail Trails and Xeno threads by latching onto older games in the series like TiTS or Xenogears and start shitting on everything that's new, pretending to be an old-school fan when he doesn't even like the games he's pretending to defend to begin with.
If nobody replies to him, he'll argue with himself and make absurd claims and jumps in logic until people eventually take the bait.

>>390140756
What a sad life

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Arteria when?

CS2 WHEN DUANTE?

>>390142089
Early next year most likely.

should i play this one first or look at older entries in the series?

who's fucking idea was it to use this for the final boss theme
what the fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbDinyt3VCc

>>390142683
Start with Sky FC. You'll understand Cold Steel if you play it but you'll miss out on a lot of stuff.

>>390142683

Yeah start with First Chapter. You'll miss a fair amount of stuff if you start with CS and it kinda spoilers some characters and major events of FC.

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>>390142692
Game should have ended after the first final boss, the extra five hours feels so pointless, the real final dungeon/final boss had zero plot relevance and the whole drawn-out Crossbell sub-chapter could have been resolved with a cutscene.

>slows down at 2:30
>builds up to 3:20
>goes into overdrive at 3:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dga3Vw1NQ0

>>390142532
WHY NOT RIGHT NOW? I NEED IT RIGHT NOW.

>cold steel only and their worthless opinions

>>390143549
Reminder that is an extension of an ao no kiseki track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ6oxEkTJOU

>>390116470
another Falcomfag shill thread? how much do they pay you? are you a Xseed employee? doing it for free is really pathetic.

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>>390147238

>>390118978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OciAAIlivA

>>390117118
At least you get your money's worth. Personally I prefer 60+ hour games.

>Get home from University or Work
>play until night
Rinse and repeat until done

>>390142692
Its your one last battle together with your classmates as a class before they graduate.

>>390118978
>all those replies
>nobody even mentions this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMwBxRpzoqU

Loewe vs Joshua fight was some cool shit

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>>390149327
>1:00

>>390139423
Automata is an action JRPG.

Trails is turn based combat with a very immersive story.

Chances we get to see Dorothy in CS3?

>>390116470
I liked it but it wasn't as good as Sky besides having reasonable difficulty on the prologue

>>390152598
Well Falcom did say we'll get to see the Grandmaster in Sen 3 so it's a given.

>>390152735
I want to see Nial too.

>>390152790
I want to see all Sky characters desu

>>390124107
The battle at the fortress is actually a hint of what's to come. It's probably going to be part of a long plot twist that finally comes to fruition in CSIII.

>>390124107
>>The game opens with a battle at a fortress. This entire concept is stupid as shit as you have a lot of arts, characters, skills and crafts available here. It's very overwhelming and paces the start poorly.
Interestingly, there's a really strong theory using information from previous games that suggests that the intro of the game where you storm Garrelia Fortress is canonically different from 60+ hours in when you storm Garrelia fortress. The prologue takes place in a different timeline from the rest of Cold Steel, including the chapter where you get to the fortress.

But do i get so choose my own romance?

Cold Steel makes me realise how much I miss text-only dialogue. When you're free from having to do voiceover for every itty bitty conversation in your game it really limits your options. The sound effect that plays as the text scrolls by reminds me of Harvest Moon.

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So Rean x Crow is canon, right?

die