Should Steam ban modern games that look like this? This is a

>why are video games I don't like available for purchase >:(

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>>390078191

Yeah why is there 5,000 titles of shovelware being spewed out each year onto Steam. It's a fucking toy store of teddy bears covered in dried up cum. Talk about quality control.

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Yeah I know, check this shit out it's just a bunch of text in boxes, how dare they charge for this?

>>390078110
yes, there is a difference between retro style graphics, and shit tier graphics where the character's face is a blank 6 pixels that are the same fucking color

>>390078191
Then what do you suppose I do? Ignore it and move on with my life?
Fuck that.

>>390078110
I fucking hate how retroism is used to be lazy nowdays.

>>390078294
Don't know man, have you tried not wasting your money on those gay furry porn games and just buying whatever you like? You don't goy into a toy store and buy every single toy, you just buy the teddy bear that isn't covered in cum.

>>390078313
looks fun
what is it

only a communist would be against free market.

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lets make a game look retro!
>comes out like OP's pic instead of like this

>>390078110
Not really unless they're actively a ripoff in content

>>390078683
Back to /pol/ with you.

>>390078526

>Missing the point

Yes because we all know the average store is filled to the brink with defected items all throughout the store

>>390078110
>steam should ban games
As long as a game is playable, isnt an asset flip, and doesnt outright lie about what it contains, then it should be allowed.
Vote with your wallet niggers

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>>390078683

And only a Jew would be against quality control

>>390078526
But the cum is often inside the teddy bear. And sure, if you buy it for your child and within two hours of your child playing with it, it erupts into a fountain of sperm, you can return it. But if not, you will have to learn to remove some nasty stains from the playmat.

I'd rather have a toy store, where I can be sure, that none of the teddy bears are filled with cum, so I can let my child play with it, without standing in the corner with disinfectant wipes.

>>390078609
TIS-100

>>390078683

So if you came up to me trying to get me to sell your piece of shit in MY store therefore I'm a Communist because I consider it a piece of shit?

>>390078793
THIS
fucking hell it's like indiefaggots are more inspired by other indieshits that actually were also inspired by other indieshits that were actually inspired by retro games than by real retro games
it's like a shitty game of telephone

>>390079001
You're correct and wrong at the same time.

QA should be limited mainly to functionality. Does the game launch? Does it have crippling bugs? Does it perform to a reasonable standard?

QA should not strip every art style you personally disprove of from the store front.

>>390078110
Wouldn't stop them getting made, moron. Why are you demanding steam be some kinda of gatekeeper? They're not the only digital shop.

>>390079036
It's not even about the store at this point. You have to adress the source of the problem, who is filling the teddy bears with cum? is it good quality cum? Does it taste good? Do i have to pay extra for the fermented cum & spit DLC?

>>390078110
No. There are screenshots. Caveat emptor. Also, those games are creepy as fuck.

>>390078110
BUT actually The Last Door Collection are good games.
If you don't like the style they choose maybe you like their new style: http://blasphemousgame.com/

>inb4 Dev
I wish

>>390078887
My point is that nobody is forcing you to buy shit you don't like.

>>390078609
TIS-100

>>390079310
And do not forget about the apologists, clamouring, that we need to support the teddy bear industry's ventures into cum filling, because the direly need the money to produce more quality cumfilled teddies.

>>390078110
yes, there are much better graphics to have easily these days and the retro look fad in indie games is kinda terrible.

what's next? a stupid indie text game in 2017?

>>390078393
That is exactly what I expect you to do, yes. This has no direct or meaningful impact on you in any way that actually matters, don't hyperfocus on things you don't like.

>>390079036
Or you can just think for yourself and differentiate from the cum stained bears and the normal ones. And if that's so hard for you you can always check the internet and your friendly teddy bear board /v/ and see what people have to say about those bears.

>>390079512
Exactly.

>>390079641
And what if I refuse? You think you can stop me from getting upset over trivial things?

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>>390079310

>>390079663
Yes, and while we are at it, we can also abolish all kinds of food sanitation and health regulations.

Instead we can just smell whatever is on the shelves a bit, and decide for ourselves if we want to take the gamble. And if anyone is especially timid, he can just wait a week and see which of his neighbours are dying from the shits.

>inb4 hurr durr food analogy

>>390078110
These games are always made by like a one programmer who can't afford to hire a professional artist. Just don't buy it if you don't think it's worth your money.

>>390078110
No, are you fucking stupid? Imagine making a game client and then start banning games based on whether or not you like them and tell me if you think it would last a month.

>>390078294
I don't know about you but I've literally never seen a single shovelware title on steam, maybe if you stopped looking at and buying garbage it would stop showing you all the garbage there is to offer. It's a pretty good system they have for showing things you might like, don't blame Valve just because you have shit taste, praise them for creating a system that feeds you what you like.

>>390078110
fuck you, last door is great, i'd rather have all those rpgmaker games banned.

>>390079132
Steam is your store?
Gaben posts on /v/?

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>why don't they ban shareware games??? REEEEEEE
fuck off, fag
stop buying shit

>>390079036
The cum is virtually never inside the teddy bear, you're just terrible at judging a good video game. You should be able to predict with at least 90% accuracy how much you will like a game just by watching 5 minutes of unedited gameplay

>>390080116
This

You can do some great shit with rpgmaker, but those ridiculous trilogies that use no custom assets and look like they were made in a day are fucking ridiculous

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>>390079242

>Why are you demanding steam be some kinda of gatekeeper?

Because if Valve had any sort of dignity or standards they're limit what would be allowed onto store. Indie shovelware shit shouldn't be allowed on their store.

>b-but that's communism!

I wasn't aware that Valve was a government of its own. How exactly does moderating their own private services correlate with the government abolishing private property? People who say this is 'communism' are the same retards who think people are nazis for speaking out of toe with political correctness.

>They're not the only digital shop.

They aren't, but Steam has become notorious for allowing anything onto their store compared to other digital distribution sites like Gog or even fucking Origin. And despite its mass fortune, they refuse to increase the size of their company despite tens of millions of active users on Steam, they have no legitimate customer control. Gabe being a fat money grubbing Jew refuses to expand Valve to meet proper requirements to handle a service as large as Steam.

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Looking up that game, they're rated highly on steam so apparently the art style hasn't been that much of a detriment. I've stopped worrying about indie games having a simplistic art style since it's not necessarily that important for gameplay.
You can also filter out that stuff on steam if you want.

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>>390080227
>apogee BTFO
did they ever recover?

>>390080235
If wandering along the cum teddy aisles, poking each one for 5 minutes if it squelches and leaks, makes you happy, go for it.

Sure, everyone can suck on the fabric until some seminal fluid starts seeping through, play it around with the tongue a bit and then spit it out. But what kind of existence is that?

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>>390079663

>Or you can just think for yourself and differentiate from the cum stained bears and the normal ones.

I can only assume the people who are defending the shovelware spewing out onto Steam are people who make Shovelware themselves.

>>390078191
>tfw you have to scroll through a million fidget spinner simulators a newgrounds tier games that cost actual money to find a decent game
lmao get triggered indiefag

>>390078294
Quality control would require effort on Valve's part, they'd rather just make wholesale changes like limiting the amount of keys developers can use on other sites to fix the problems all this shovelware brings.

>>390079894
>inb4 hurr durr food analogy
Exactly, you're not going to die for buying a shitty videogame. Unless you're spending more money than you should.
And if you hate the game that much, you can always get a refund.

>>390080484
If it's actually covered in cum like you suggest then the time drops down to closer to 30 seconds.

>>390078110
Better question does steam sell text based games?

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>>390080082

>I don't know about you but I've literally never seen a single shovelware title on steam

>>390080082
>never seen a single shovelware title on steam
c'mon man, you either have shitty low standards to not consider a game shovelware or you are fucking blind.

>>390080493
Its not steam's fault that you can't think for yourself.

>>390080538
>unironically scrolling through the steam library to find new games
are you mentally deficient

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If steam needs to worry about removing anything its this garbage

>>390079759
You can be upset about whatever you want, it's just that the things that upset you are laughably inconsequential.

People will laugh at you

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>>390080614

>you can always get a refund.

It's funny how that fat kike refused refunds until the Australian government had to get involved.

>>390080796

>Its not steam's fault that you can't think for yourself.

t. digital homicide

>>390080817
>he browses a store for products
really makes you think....
>are you mentally deficient
you are insulting me for browsing steam because you know what giant pile of shit it is, therefor proving my point that steam is full of shovelware games.
you played yourself

>>390078110
no, simply banning for aesthetics would be stupid and would create a bias towards AAA games.
But they should indeed quality control the games released on their store

>>390080614
I'd argue, that the severity of inconvenience a bad business practice or model imparts on the consumer, is not a necessary criteria for deeming it worthy of improvement.

Should every business not strive to give the consumer the best experience possible? Should not even the smallest misgiving be subject to scrutiny and improvement, if doing so is feasible and within rational means?

>>390080662
Cum covered teddies were never part of my premise. I argue exclusively using analogies based on cum FILLED objects.

>>390078110
name of the game?
also many games are like this, welcome to indie-steam 2017
either that or you can buy shitty visual novel "hentai" game that's not even uncensored for 10 bucks too

>>390081057
Yes, you are a mongrel for using the most inefficient method imaginable to look for new games
Of course you don't even do that, you just made up the scenario to argue a retarded point

What Steam really needs to ban are VNs. I'm so fucking annoyed with seeing a million cartoon sex sims that I have no interest in flooding the "New Releases" and "Top Sellers" menus.

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>>390078294
>wanting quality control
Why?
Quality control would just present the possibility of niche titles that only certain specific subsets of people like from being allowed on the store since they aren't always immediately obvious to contain content of value.

In addition, quality control is not even needed to avoid scams. User reviews, refunds, gameplay footage, screenshots...They all exist to ensure that users are not scammed and get the product they pay for and have some idea of what they're getting themselves into before buying. There's no need for quality control.

>>390081292
You can ban selected tags in your preferences if you go to your steam account page.

>>390081393
Wow senpai I had no idea, thanks

>>390081182
>damage control
sometimes when i'm bored i browse the new releases and upcoming ones, and 90% of those games are flash game tier.

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>>390081292
So why not just filter VNs using your user preferences? I like some VNs and want to be able to buy them on my platform of choice and want them to be able to flourish and not die as a genre simply due to not being sold on the biggest PC platform.

>>390081148
>Should every business not strive to give the consumer the best experience possible? Should not even the smallest misgiving be subject to scrutiny and improvement, if doing so is feasible and within rational means?
But in that case you could say the same of every shitty game that is released for any console. Steam is just a marketplace, they can't just go and test every single game, they already provide you with screenshots, a description and reviews of people that already played the game, so its not like you have to blindly buy games and hope for the best. You have a way to assert if said games will be of your liking.
Steam is more akin to a flea market rather an a restaurant or fancy toy store, they just sell whatever they want and its up to the consumer to decide what he deems worthy of purchasing.

>>390081313
Because he's a fucking tool who treats steam as a gamified social network rather than a store

>>390081313
quality control as in like remove another meme simulator game.

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>>390081313

>>390081475
because if you filter VNs you'll filter a few games that aren't actual VNs because tags are made by the users and as such you can have Skyrim with a FPS tag because it's first person and you get a bow.

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>>390078793
SM pixelwork is shit

>>390081543
You're implying there's some sort of monetary incentive for such a post, but no one has to buy these games anyways, and Steam's algorithm is set up to try and hide games that are of poor value (or at least Valve is on the record for saying that that's what they intend to try and do). I just want to be able to continue to buy the games I enjoy without them being withheld from me because some shmuk in whose job is QC decided that the game I like doesn't look like it has merit.

>>390081480

>because Stores sell anything and people can just come by and put it up on the shelves without sort of evaluation of who's selling it

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>>390081313

BAH quality control is such a terrible idea. The very fact that they allow it is almost metaphorical signal that they are anti-semetic! I should be able to sell anything on Steam and if some shmuck is dumb enough to buy it then it's perfectly ok since he's a dumb naive goyim!

>>390081667
VNs and Trading Card Games are probably safe filters.

For me at least. Those games are oversaturated in the market and total garbage, and VNs aren't really games so I'm not interested.

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>>390081796

>>390081313
>4chan pass
shit nigga what are you doing

>>390081796
Gee, maybe there's like a difference between a digital store like a steam and a irl one.
Just like amazon has those shitty Minecraft farting books that you'll never find in a real library (I hope)

>>390080867
indie games? agreed

>>390080867
>he says while pointing out one of the few VNs that actually looks like it had effort put into it

>>390081927
>and if some shmuck is dumb enough to buy it then it's perfectly ok since he's a dumb naive goyim
If that goyim isn't mentally chanllenged he could always refund it. But hey, if they can't figure that out then they must be an inferior race

>>390081726
Of all the shitty titles which could have been good examples of bad pixel art that stupid png ignores them and choose visually attractive games
What astounds me the most is that you posted it and therefore you believe it
Go back to Destiny or something

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>got really pumped about gunporn in Escape from Tarkov
>could probably do lotsa animations but utterly below programmer level to put something like that together in code
>people are slowly starting to get disgusted by sprite graphics
fug

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>>390081476
>Steam is more akin to a flea market rather an a restaurant or fancy toy store

This has been a slow development, which intensified in recent years. That it is so, does not mean, that it has to be this way. And even less that it should be this way.

And neither do I advocate games being vetted fully by Valve. No one can expect employees to fully play the game, or test it on hundreds of system configurations. I would just appreciate basic testing. Mostly technical stuff. Like making sure it runs at all, a hurdle some games have valiantly failed at. That the promised content is there in any form.

For all I care, divide the store into the store proper and the "box o' shit", where all the schlock can ferment. If a game proves itself through continuous good reviews, it can be promoted into the shop proper. The games would still be on the platform. And people can go slumming as they wish. But everyone who does not want to bother, gets a way more streamlined experience.

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>>390078110
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>390081726
you're shit indiefag

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>>390081726
>wtf why don't games made by studios in the 1990s with makeshift engines look as good as games in 2015 using development software designed for making games???

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>>390081313
>pass user since 2016

>>390082286
Well, I can agree with that. And I'm guessing that if they could get away with pay mods they could also implement something like this, but good luck with Gaben being willing to do something that could mean a potential loss of money.

>>390082367
Actually he's saying the opposite thing

>makes you think about those "shitty" indies and their "shitty" pixel art

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>>390081984

Yeah because Amazon isn't also a major problem today in our society. A company that is so big that people need to rely on it completely with its tentacles in various markets including that of groceries. 50-100 years ago that shit wouldn't fly with the monopoly that they have. What Facebook, Google, and Amazon all have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWuqCOtdFpA&

>>390082638
Yeah, that is the core of the problem. Even if it were a rational move, without big financial risks, Valve would be unwilling to change a running system. Just see, what a ramshackle, slapdash solution replaced the greenlight system. People found points of critique for that 5 minutes after the announcement. Surely all those concerns have already been deemed acceptable by the suits. A giant has a hard time rolling over, so to say.

My heart is still bleeding from the betrayal that was neutering the seasonal sales. I always liked being hyped for the deals of the day. (Even when it was just a farce to keep interest high and invite impulse purchases.)

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>>390082118

Take a hike kike, don't have some sort of scheme to kick out an old woman of her house for a few shekels?

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>>390078294
Problem solved. Stop supporting the fat jew.

>>390083375
Yes goy, you should let we, your jewish overlords, to decide what games are safe for you to play. Now bring me some virgin blood.

I hate low quality pixel graphics

I excuse it on very old consoles because it's the best that they could, but I don't think it's charming. That isn't to say a game can't be good though because of low-res pixel graphics, it just doesn't help, as far as I'm concerned.

>>390078609
MHRD

>>390083476
Based Poland taking care of the jewish problem once again.

>>390083476
GOG's library is piss poor though and they're precisely an example of the whole "quality control hurts niche games thing" considering they were hesitant to allow Mushihimesama on their store until it proved to be a hit on Steam.

>>390078313
Dude, TIS-100 is fucking RAD.

>>390083841

>jew cries about not being able to exploit a market for shekels

Oy vey such a world ;_;

>>390083984
Don't you get tired of thinking of the jews all day? Do you dream of Schlomo Goldstein using your wallet as an onahole?

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>>390078526
>>390079036
>>390079310
>>390079663
>>390080235
>>390080484
>>390080662
>>390081148
>>390079663

>>390083476
>>390083841
And in case anyone wants a source:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1143185&sid=f8de04211055f76405385da95d7aebb2#p1143185

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/to_gog_on_mushihimesama_and_getting_back_to_your_roots/page1
>>390083984
>implying the creators of a Japanese shmup that initially came out in the early 2000s would be posting in a /v/ thread about Steam

>>390083841
Oh, no! They didn't get Mushi-thingie! Can you believe that? I still don't see it on GOG.

>>390081313
>4chan pass user
>shitty smug reaction image

Why am I not surprised.

>>390082241
Did you make that?

>>390079759
That's what grown, mature people do. If you let something bother you, then you either keep it to yourself and let it blow over, or you just let it go right then and there. You're a fucking brat. Grow up.

>>390078110
is that jpeg artifact quality texture work intentional? I hope the artist gets polio.

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>>390078110
>another ZOMG ewww liek no gfx wtf kid
You probably don't even play pic related, you fucking pleb

>>390084596
Have your obligatory ">using tilesets fucken casual" reply

>>390084280
Upon further inspection they never allowed it on GOG.
Which just further expands on this problem since GOG is curating a market they know nothing about. GOG has other shmups like the Raiden games, which, while famous, is not a CAVE shmup, and CAVE is known for being an excellent company in this regard when it comes to developing shmups. GOG has no knowledge of the market, and so they curate it without knowing anything about it. I imagine you know just as much about the Raiden games as you do games like Deathsmiles and Mushihimesama

>>390084732
Thanks Urist

Regardless, graphics fags need to fuck off. Everything that doesn't have Crysis-tier graphics is a fucking indie game to those kids these days.

>>390084398
C'mon anon. You can't criticise someone for getting upset over trivial things while at the same time telling people to grow up on an anonymous image board.

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>>390081313

>is against Quality Control
>Has a 4chan pass

Why am I not surprised?

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>>390084934
So do you have an argument or no?
I want to always be able to buy the games I like on my platform of choice.

>>390083841
>proved to be a hit
>30k steam owners
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It's still not on GOG because nobody bought it.
>>390084801
>dumb passgoyim is proven wrong after further examination
They were right. Nobody is interested in this game.

>>390078110
Just don't buy it

>>390078294
Free markets are best markets

>>390078110
i dont know what kind of people love and play these ugly looking games. it literally only looks cold and robotic.

>>390085164
>30k is bad for a shmup
>forgetting the whole concept of niche games
Anon, these games are on GOG:
http://steamspy.com/app/407600
http://steamspy.com/app/315670
Explain to me how these games can be on GOG but GOG would reject Mushihimesama on the basis of thinking "it won't do well"

>>390081726
Source on 2nd and 4th indie games?

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I don't think visual fidelity, even if it's THIS low should be part of the standard by which games are barred from steam.
Some people may like and buy this sort of thing.

>>390081796
>>390078294
have you ever logged onto ebay?
like I feel like you guys don't understand the reason stores don't just show everything is because it's impractical because it's actual, physical space and there's a limited amount of it that all costs money.
literally they'd show any products for sale if they could, which guess what that's what happens on ebay. They only remove things if they're actually scamming people. They just let the BUYER decide whether or not the listing is worth anything and they have methodologies to sort items just like steam.

>>390085594
Odallus the dark call

>>390085594
Odallus and Momodora Reverie Under the Moonlight

>>390085447
>>390085552
You don't have to post twice, anon. You got my attention. I will actually give you a serious answer now.

GOG's curation is far from perfect, but it is vastly preferable to Steam's "anything goes policy". I really don't want the store cluttered up with trash games. When I buy a game on GOG I know that in 99% of cases there is at least a certain minimum standard satisfied and the game can actually be enjoyable. And the games even work on top of that, because they actually have time to test the games unlike Steam. If a game looks like trash they can quickly reject it and move on. If the game is actually good then it does end up on GOG after all. See Brigador for example. I am patient.

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>>390082334
OMFG

>>390079386
Blasphemous looks tight af

>>390081726
both games at the bottom look like garbage. side scroller with 3d models is shit.
muramasa and their games are only decent ones in the last and this gens.

>>390080891
>>390084398
Lmao, the irony. He played you both into doing exactly what you where arguing against, friends.